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5700/xt on AIB* coolers should be very strong performers.
no, get nvidia
🗡
get both
@burnt briar No, get the 1660
@runic trail why not?
thanks for the tips guys im sorry ive been rather busy since i last posted. i am going to comb over the card with a magnifying glass. im trying to not buy a new card if possible... i was on the market for a budget setup and ended up getting this pc used for a rather good price so hopefully i can fix the card! if worst comes to worst i might just bake it :/
Have you tried the GPU in a different pcie slot? Mainly CPU vs chipset lanes even if you have to run in x4? What mobo/PSU model? Also have you tried a different cable e.g. hdmi/dvi vs displayport?
i repla ced the old board cause it made the pci slot sag due to the sag in shipping. (it might still be good sad enough) but i tried it in my new board and still same thing and i have tested this hdmi cable and it is fine. also took it to a pc shop and they said the gpu is bad :/
Very possible. Not much you can do outside the long-shot of trying to heat the card to re-seat some unseen connections.
ya im considering baking it
My 780 had a similar problem. R9 270x's were known to as well.
yeah i wish my buddy had rememberd to take it out to ship it 😦
It could also be something as simple as a capacitor that's partially bent off the board. Hard to say.
Reason: Bad word usage
Eye
Un i said that n word you say before eye and it deleted my thing lol. But ya i'll look again after i get magnifying glass
You know how they say "invisible to the 'blank' eye" lol it muted me for that
Needs some advice from everybody. I bought a EVGA GTX 1070 and I haven’t used it yet since I haven’t had all the parts yet. I was offered $290 for it. Should I sell it and buy a better GPU?
For 290, that's a good deal for you.
this yellow mark keeps on showing up even though all drivers are updated... how do i fix this?
right click it and update drivers @turbid dirge
it says it's up to date
right click your desktop and go to nvidia control panel and click the house icon to see version #
@turbid dirge
it doesnt show up
geforce > geforce 10 series> geforce gtx 1060 > (your os) > standard
yep, ill give it a go
the hell?
how do i fix this?
ok
i really hope it works for you
for your reference next time, its a "windows driver type" @turbid dirge
@turbid dirge where did you buy that card, it could be a different card and they changed the info on the chip
@gritty quartz it came with this pc
@wraith pasture should i do express or custom installation
ok
make sure to tick off clean install @turbid dirge
ok
when i mean tick off clean install i mean enable it sorry @turbid dirge LOL
im sleepy right now
yeah i got what you mean
anyways, my pc was crashing while it was restarting, and now my screen is black
the hell
it will turn black when reinstalled and installiuung the driver
just have to wait @turbid dirge
uninstall and reinstalling the drivers i mean
so thats normal
not sure whats going on, maybe gpu is defective
sadly, it probably is
:<
so I don’t think this is normal
No clue where else to ask this (maybe peripherals? IDK) but can the elgato hd60 pro work with a full size pcie slot like where my rtx 2070 goes, or does it only use the tiny black slots. (Photo for refer
Capture cards use the smaller port underneath the card
@white geode Is your GPU in the x8 slot? Either way, probably doesn't hurt performance too much.
I'd try run the GPU from the x16 slot nearest the CPU, then the capture card from any pcie slot controlled by the PCH. Not the slots with the metal shroud re-enforcement.
It looks like his case might not even allow it... I don’t see slots to the left of the x16
Or maybe he removed it cause it kinda looks like wall??? Idk I’m dum
It looks like the GPU is currently plugged into the 2nd x16 (physical size) slot which is likely wired to x8 CPU lanes.
Anyone happen to have a Vega 64 and also use it for VR? Lol
i can help with vr
but ive never had a vega 64
oh wait
shoot
sorry
i have to go
i can help tomorrow tho
just ping me
@runic trail
Would you say it's worth it? @long phoenix
With a 60Hz monitor it doesn't seem like it'd be worth it
But idk what settings those are on
don't go from a 570 to a 580. save up a bit more money so you can get more than a 6 fps difference
what do you have now @lone pond
i am trying to get all max settings
if you have the money and desire for 1440p then go for it as long as your cpu can handle it
i have a 2700x at 4.5 ghz
it will be fine then
ok
thanks
where my aib cards at?

5700 XT for 1440p 
Just bought a 1080 used locally for $250 lmfao
@opal hinge Nice, that's $70-$100 cheaper than they are normally selling for.
@lone pond hell yeah man
It's really great
Founders edition, so the price drops $20-40 or so, but still
User benchmark is not a very good benchmarking strategy, it has no true regulatory scenario so each test is different and from different situations, and even then there known to favor gaming benchmarks instead of multi threaded work station loads. Now for grafics cards the difference and range of performance could be effected by the case all the way to the fool who plugged there you into only the motherboards power output, no a for real benchmarks you could watch videos or find a different site, but normally I would not be using that site for your best or worst case plans.
how much will you pay for a unused rx 480 xfx
ever since enabling gysnc, i get a black screen for a several seconds when Alt-Tabbing out of a game. What gives?
is a 1660 ti worth the money for an upgrade, i don't like the rtx cards cause it doesn't do much for making the image better and it just kills frames. any suggestions?
The rtx cards are still more powerful than the 1660ti even if you don't use ray tracing or dlss
And the answer to your question really depends on what you currently have, what you want to play, and at what resolution/fps
i'm trying to just upgrade from a 1060 to something better, i heard about the new architecture, i just don't know if it's worth it
If you don't want ray tracing but you want killer performance for a decent price, 5700 or 5700 XT @pulsar saffron
alright, i'll look into them
I don't think it's worth upgrading from a 1060 to 1660ti.
5700 or 5700xt are a pretty significant price bump over a 1660ti, but they will also offer great 1440p performance, especially the properly cooled ones
Of course at that price there is also 2060 super, which isn't really any good for ray tracing or dlss, but will offer great performance without those on, and of course all the nvidia extras
i was thinking about waiting a little bit longer cuz that 2070 might drop in price and it still performs better than the 2060 super
for the raytracing though it wont perform as good as the 5700xt with raytracing off
are the liquid cooling kids for video cards usually card specific or do they try to follow some sort of standard? Though I guess a complete standard would be difficult considering how much they can differ in size...
no idea
Ok, I want opinions on borrowing a GTX 670 until I can buy a much newer card
I’ve seen it perform on multiple games and it’s quite impressive
For an old card with only 2gig of Vram
I mean, if borrowing means free, then there's nothing to really lose
At least a 670 can run 4k. My 5xx cards can't.
nice!
@clear summit full board liquid cooling kits depend on the PCB since they have to fully fit a specific board
AiO and partial board kits are usually one size fits all
@gusty axle nice 1080 ti’s are still rocking solid for pretty good prices
@granite juniper Yes they are and even 4k can run at decent to good framerates from what I have seen
Although my monitor wont go above 1080p as of rn so I wont unlock its full podtential, but eventually I want to get a nice monitor to be able to do so
I really like EVGA too when it cones to cards
Comes*
I feel u
I’ve got a 1070 ti at 1680x1050 rn, can’t wait til I buy a 1440p monitor
Their just typically very expensive
How the hell do you have a modern pc with a 1680x1050 monitor?
cause i im waiting for a sale on one
@little slate edit the sentence dont want you getting banned for bad bad w0rd
Hell isn't a bad word tho
anyone know what a decent oc is for a 2080 non-super
i got +130 on core clock
didnt touch memory
would it be worth it to mess with that?
hmmm
Fantasy
unless you find like a refurbished 1050 or something youre out of luck
its ebay
might as well put a bid in
cant hurt
if anyone else bids above just dont go over 100
anything else? @dense flicker
im looking
and hopefully it works lol
Ooo I'll think about it! @dense flicker
ew its only 4gb
also how come you guys are able to post things for sell on other sites?
I think it's just easier to either confine personal sales to a bst text channel, or skip it altogether as Newegg does here.
IME, BST text channels are exhaustive to monitor and don't offer many benefits unless it's a really tight community.
@wide mango wait we can't?
i was trying to ask people on here if anyone interested in something i want to sell but my post was deleted and i was warned. So if people can post stuff from ebay then that means ill just have to put it up on ebay and post it. But its basically the same thing.
I'd assume nobody posts their own ebay links. If I did I'd probably refuse to sell to someone here anyway haha.
@lone pond could you read #peripherals-and-displays and see what I said? Just wondering if anyone could tell me an answer
Your post seems fine, I haven't seen people spam "price check" posts at all actually.
That being said, if you want to learn how to research that yourself, just search ebay sold listings
IIf that's not enough information, you can make a educated guess off the current lowest new prices
Okay thanks! 😄
@lone pond Is it worth it if I sell those 2 combine on ebay since it'll give me about 80$ and and work up like an extra 20$ to get a GPU better than mine rn? (RX 560 2GB) because I do have an extra keyboard and mouse
That's a question for you to answer.
If you want a build that has the most options for streaming capability get a 1050 ti, or better yet, a 1660 or better
Oh
I have an FX 6300 and RX 560 2GB 😦
I found a 8GB 2x4 1333MHz ram on some used app for 10$
I could get 16GB altogether
Would that be better too?
Sorry I'm new to this older stuff 😛
o
nvm the speed is 1600MHz..
https://www.userbenchmark.com/PCBuilder/Custom/S3287-M299.285154.39279.50785vsS3287-M299.268793.39279.50785?tab=GPU that would be the difference
(the ram would actually be 4x4 16GB)
Is it worth it?
Or should I just get a GPU and CPU @dense flicker instead of a GPU and RAM
@somber glen
You said I would be out of luck?
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS @wide mango
i watched a review on and they said it cools it more by almost 30%
when compared to the reference models
and is much quieter

maybe ill wait a little bit longer for the other cards to see not only if they perform better for a good price but also i hope they offer game deals aswell
this one doesnt offer any game deals
like the reference models
is that one of the new cards?
Thoughts on EVAGA 1660ti XC Ultra 6GB
good
Pairing it with Ryzen 5 2600x, saw good results on games in YouTube. I hope 2400mhz isn't a issue
Will upgrade to better ram in the future when I spot a 3,000 mhz ram kit
👍
@clear summit yeah. RX 5700 XT 50th Anniversary Edition.
hmm, nice
is that the only card that was released?
There's the RX 5700, RX 5700 XT, and then the anniversary edition
Yeah
Ah it seems the anniversary is like a factory overclock of the XT, only about 1% performance increase, I guess you'd get it more for the novelty than anything
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cWxs6s Would it be fine if I just went with that?
@runic trail you could get different ram for a bit cheaper
if you like red ram u could go with this
@runic trail quad core seems to not be sufficient nowadays if your a "gamer" at least from my experience.
prob gonna need like 6 core +
its why ive been looking at the ryzen 5 3600
i use currently the i5-6600k
Is the 1080Ti really starting to show it’s age?
1080ti op
I thought the 2070 super was supposed to be more equivalent to a regular 1080
the 2070 is around 1080 levels iirc
from i saw the 1080 ti was like 600$ at launch and is still realllly good today. so it shows how much value the 5700 and xt have at 400$
being that it performs similar or the same performace or maybe alittle better
u can get used 1080 ti's for like 450-500 rn also
Im not looking at it from a price point, just strictly at the performance front. It’s been out for a while now so I’m curious what everyone’s thoughts are about showing age going into tomorrows games. Not so much today’s games.
sold a 1080Ti for $550 two weeks ago.
@potent kindle yeah in games its around 2070S levels of performance
I’m dismissing the ray tracing too since it’s not properly implemented yet
Intentionally dismissing
Ray tracing is new, so it'll get better in the future
Does anyone know if my i7-6700K will bottleneck a RTX 207 Super?
it shouldnt bottleneck too much
Okay well I was looking at buying a 1440p 144 hz monitor as well
2070 super can do that
what games are you trying to get 144 on
Roblox
XD
Probably the new COD or maybe The Division 2
ehh, its gonna be hard to hit 144 on those games i think
with any gpu
not just your setup
Just play the roblox versions of those games
I just wanted the extra refresh rate too so that's alright
yeah, 144 is great
Its basically the same thing between roblox and the others Kappa
I just want a smooth experience without giving up graphics settings
I actually was looking at that one 😂
its a great monitor
Well that's great to hear!
yeah, probably the best for that price imo
$400, you get curved, 1440p. 144hz refresh rate, 27 inches
very nice
So I should be fine with a 2070 Super and 6700K?
do you already have a 6700k? or are you looking to buy
I am using a 6700K with a GTX 970 MSI right now
sure
5700 XT is basically a 1080 Ti performance wise
id say a bit lower
yeah
@granite juniper @wide mango Sorry I wasn't thinking right at 3 AM, https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9mhkkd I'm probably gonna go with that since when the motherboard price appears, it'll be around the same price as what I linked before.
And it'll give me a head start since in my future PC I want a 3600 and 5700 XT
Scroll down to memory
And if you click on that picture thing for memory
You'll see why
If you click the black version of the RAM I chose
I'll have a performance boost on the RAM
yeah but its like only a tiny bit increase over 3200mhz cl16
Ryzen 7 3700x : 2666MHz CL13 vs 3200MHz CL16 vs 3600MHz CL17 RAM World of Warships - https://wgaffiliate.com/?a=2736&c=4692&s1= Games : Assassin's Creed Odys...
And I went with 3600Mhz because it's a sweet spot which most tech people say
And that motherboard can support 3600Mhz and won't bring it down to 3466MHz
And I'll get a performance boost from the motherboard for the RAM
yeah but you can save $50 and only lose less than 5% performance with e die
What is even e die?
u could get a better gpu for $50
Um..
what the memory is made of
I didn't list a GPU
yeah in the future
What GPU?
$50 could get you from 5700 to 5700xt or something like that
I said 5700XT

Did I not?
i just got on
but the point is you could use the $50 somewhere else that would work better imo
I want RGB
And I will be getting the 5700XT
And that RAM has the same latency
But slower speeds
With Zen 2 it does.
The 3600 does a lot better with faster performance
And that RAM has RGB where you can see the hotspots
3600 is also moar expensive
Imo, that RAM's RGB is ugly
3200 is perfect for ryzen
watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHJ16hD4ysk
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He didn't use Zen 2
i think..
yeah he did...
3900x

well i want 3600mhz 😉
id just get 3200 and put the money saved towards something else, but whatever works for you is fine
get 4200mhz 
got it chief
nah man that trident z neo 3800mhz cl14
thats fine too

also if u guys wanna continue this convo could you move to #cpus-mobo-and-memory
:theo_cool: :\
3600Mhz is the one
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cKJnkd 🤔 @granite juniper @dense flicker
what about it
the CPU
should I?
I had to bring the RAM down
and take out the windows key and HDD
is it worth?
wrong forum @runic trail
oops lmao i forgot to respond
spec wise its fantastic but uhhhh
i wouldnt buy adata ram
keyword I
@dense flicker why?
lmao
trust other brands more
tty in #cpus-mobo-and-memory
Why does Ubisoft have such bad optimization
Tried playing assassin's Creed unity today and the rtx 2060 can't even hit 60 ultra 1080p consistently
I know, but where TF is all the power going
Like Odyssey, which is much more intensive, runs at max 1440p with 60-75 fps
Yet unity, a 2015 game, can't even hit 60 1080p consistently. That's stupid


date of release has nothing to do with how well it runs
Did you try using Geforce experience to have it optimize settings for it? I haven't played any of the AC's so not sure how much geforce experience would help
GFE only measures gpu, if your cpu is lacking it will still underperform D:
with the "optimal" GFE game settings
and also sometimes the optimal settings are bad
True but he is saying it is only underperforming in unity
it wants me to upscale my resolution to 4k on bfv
LOLOLOL
oh
OH
AC unity?
unity was poorly optimized
Oh jeez yeah I have had it do weird stuff like that for me as well
Then that is probably his issue
AC was only really optimized for pc starting with Origin
then got a lot better with odyssey
@quartz gull
Yeah I couldn't really say because I have never personally been into AC
Alright since his question is solved off to scroll some other topics lol
i LOVE assassin's creed
I don't like origins and Odyssey that much. I like more of the medieval and revolution themes
Alright who said to go and optimize it in GeForce experience?
It now runs at 1080p 75fps max while I could only do high before. Had no clue that actually works
I've had mixed results with GFE optimized settings. Sometimes it's spot on, other times it tries to have me turn down settings just to crank up resolution above what my monitor supports.
If GFE is giving you problems, you can just install the drivers alone.
noice
though i do remember talking about geforce experience sometime this week with some guy
always go for the game ready driver
perfect
Sometimes games run better with the higher graphics
hope my 2069 isn't choked toooo much by the 7400
oof
lemme fix
There we go
someone conjure up a pcpartpicker build list for me under 600 for the 2060? I already have the 2060
btw im going for like a black and white build
didnt know u were going black and white, hold on
that one has even better specs than before
and cheaper
and black and white
there ya go
mmm
nice
Imma have to start saving up
so basically I overclocked my 1060 3gb
and got a +200 core clock
think this can run a 2060?
@wraith pasture like my graphics card?
Ok
I can run any game including ark at 4k 60 fps
Including AC Odyssey?
what's the recommended way to overclock a gpu, using manufacturer's software? I kinda want to double check if my vega 64 is simply unstable or wattman just doesn't do a good job of overclocking it

youre gonna wanna power down ur pc
before it freakin explodes
(it wont explode lol)
but uhhhhh thats not good for the processor
wait
nvm
that's the gpu
im cray cray
stays around 100-120 while playin r6s with my boost clocks
lmao
I have the side panel open now
@half sapphire Do you mean 100-120F? Because at 120C most computer parts would have fried if your computer did not shut down.
I have to question how you can run any game at 60 fps at 4k with your parts, unless you turn all the settings way down.
Without turning graphics down, upgrade your system @little slate
I've got an 8700k and a 1080ti, I think I'm good
Also I was referring to @half sapphire stating that he can run any game st 4k 60 fps, with a 2060
best set up gg ez
i was running 60 hz 4ki easily on a ryzen 7 1700 16gb ram and gtx 1070 . BF5 48-60 frames easily now at 1080 i get over 100
that was on my tv switching to a gaming monitor beginning of next month
all the aib 5700 series cards are always sold out T-T
or they are to be delivered in like october or the end of september
Good card for a good price aiming to potentially upgrade to 1440p 144hz, cooler doesn’t exactly matter as some point il add it to my custom loop
5700xt non-reference cooler
But you already have a 1080 ti?
@lone pond no
And this cards nearly on its way out so i wanna get rid fast
And isn't your custom loop currently a 360 AIO with options for expandability?
Or do you have a 1080?
1080 but it looks like its on its last legs
So i wanna upgrade as soon as
Can 5700xt even manage 1440p 144hz ultra?
That question is always followed by another "on what games" , though I know you play a flight simulator, but forgot which
And benchmarks will tell
Also, sorry about how the OC channel in LTT treated you, Simplicity is a massive jerk. You should see him in the EVGA discord
@lone pond the flight sim il more than likely lock around 30 or 60 fps for a smother experience(helps the sim) but il be playing games like battlefield 1 and V, rainbow siege, forza 7, recon wildlands, gta v, minecraft and others
have you searched for GPU benchmarks on those particular games? If you have the money, get a 2080 ti, but you have a 1080 as of now, right?
I cant get a 2080ti
Id need a new 1440p 144hz monitor
Preferably a water block
Is 2x16gb at only 3000mhz a bottleneck?
You have a z390 taichi and 9900k, I thought you were really into mem oc?
@lone pond i changed my ram kit to a 2x16gb 3000 cl15 kit
Which is temporary
I may return and buy bdie or a faster speed
This new kit doesn’t like primary timings lowered or higher frequency at all
Only secondary timings
Didn't you have 4x8 kit of 4266c19 or something
Your 2x16 3000c15, is it ballistix sport? i.e. Micron rev E
@gray vapor And is it the 570's temps that motivate you to buy a 3rd party cooler?
Yes would like to have my GPU on the actual gaming mode and have good temps and i mean like 60c and below and not hitting almost 90c
Did you see my suggestions earlier about dust/airflow?
https://discordapp.com/channels/500085440221806603/500102940078505984/611704227068117032
I use this at least once a month on my whole system https://www.newegg.ca/white-metrovac-datavac-electric-duster/p/N82E16896367002
Nice! That's a great product, a good investment over canned air, I'm considering getting one myself.
What temp monitoring programs do you use? Have you use hwinfo64 or aida64?
Ya i used to use can air in the past (about a year ago) till i found out that was costing me too much in the long run till i saw a YouTube video on that and was like "i should buy that"
Sadly i didn't buy it on Newegg my sister bought it for me on Amazon
hides
Wanna install either of those two programs and run a stress test them post the results?
which 2 programs?
hwinfo64 or aida64
ok hwinfo i have already and how do i use aida64?
If you have hwinfo, just start it, do some gaming until your card gets hot/loud as you stated previously, end game, screenshot hwinfo and send
Here's how to show all the data https://puu.sh/E4k48.gif
is there anything i can do to cool my 2080 down that doesnt void the warranty? I have plenty of airflow but i could increase case fan speed. i have the corsair 780t with two 140mm intake, two 120mm intake, and two 140mm exhaust
cap frames ingame
lol why would i do that. i cant even hit 155 on all of them

what?
whats your monitor rated for?
155hz
are you using any programs to control fan curve for gpu
afterburner
still not cool enough?
which gpu partner is this
gigabyte 2080 windforce
well which gpu specifically
oc version
what do you mean
it used to hit high 70s but i dropped it by increasing the fan curve
What's wrong with 70?
yeahh
its so close to hitting 2100 mhz, just a litttttlllllle more
if theres no way to cool it more thats fine, im just curious
70s are fine
@lone pond This is what i just got for playing a little bit of GTA V and also for the RX 570 i have i have the RGB lighting set for temps which it was turning red before i closed the game
Hmm, ya I agree 80C is too high, is that the max fan RPM?
Also what's your case's fan setup like
got a pic?
Pretty much i have it on gaming mode when getting those temps
Ya, your max clock, voltage, are high
Why is the rear fan installed backwards

i fixed it the last time i cleaned my system that is just an older pic i took last month
What model 570 btw
Asus ROG Strix
and yes i have a make shift fan next to my GPU as well cause i thought it would of helped at first
i put one down on my drive bay cause there is almost no air flow for me SSD's cause of this https://www.newegg.ca/icy-dock-mb290sp-b-2-x-2-5-drive-to-3-5-bay/p/N82E16817994162
This is not GPU related but i was wondering how come the Team Group Lite 3D SSD's never shows the temps?
wait you can monitor ssd temps?
yeah on my m.2 i can
https://i.gyazo.com/4a194a4834c826ac0a9775ab395b76a1.png This is all my drives and my Kingston A400 and my Seagate FireCude shows the temps but not the 2 Team Group one's
So @lone pond what do you think i should do for my GPU and also like to mention as well that i also wipe down the fan blades just in case if there is some dirt stuck on them
If your temps under the same power loads are comparable to cards tested by users/reviewers, then just limit clock and or up the fan curve to keep the Core under 70 or 75.
If your card is uncharacteristically hot on the same fan, clock, power output (watts), then look into re-pasting.
So what do i do with that warranty sticker on the screw cause i got a little worried
On the GPU shot you sent me, the avg core temp was low, try reset hwinfo's timer when you get in game, play around for 5 mins, then record the average
For how much longer is the card under warranty?
i bought it December 2018
I mean, re-pasting is a last resort here, I wouldn't really recommend it to you at all
Ya, do those other two things first
Can i get your opinion on a CPU liquid cooler though?
What's wrong with the wraith spire?
2600 non X comes with the Wraith Stealth
Too noisy? Get a Noctua D15, Dark rock Pro 4, coolermaster grande thing, superflower cooler, scythe ninja mugen 5, or many more
Ya, the 2600 non x uses so little power it barely needs more
Well you saw in my pic i am using the Deepcool S40
That's a great cooler, are you unhappy with it?
I would never recommend upgrading from that on a ryzen 2600
Unless you're going for some dry ice, ln2 etc for a record
It works great the way it is cause when gaming it goes up to 40c but for the future i would like to you know overclock my CPU
Sure
I get a little "a word" when i get higher temps on my system because back in the days before i built/upgraded this system i had for 7 years a i5 2500
and because a lot of games i was playing was open world games as well i would get like 30-35 fps while a friend of mine that was using a i7 2600 was getting around 50 fps and with the same GPU as well which was a GTX 1050 Ti
I kept thinking about going back with Nvidia but the problem is i like the AMD software especially for streaming
Go nvidia for streaming
cause with the Radeon software (and because i only use one monitor) has streaming chat
1050 ti, 1660, 2060 etc
Just not a 1050
or 1650
1660ti is also pretty good
for its price
If i was to ever go Nvidia again i would go for the 1660 unless they make a RTX 2050
pretty sure they won't
Yes, 1660 ti is great as well, $200 and $250 ? ish respectively
I game at 1080p so i try not to think of anything extreme and not to mention i am always on a tight budget
2060 runs around 350
but if they did make a 2050 it'd pretty much be a 1660ti with ray tracing
so i don't really see a point for it
You got to remember i am in Canada so the conversion for what you're saying is much more
It's all relative
Also i would tend to think a 2050 would be less power from a 1660 since i would guess it would be like 4gb or 5gb instead
no
But ya if i do go back might be a 1660 i would go for
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/BigEndianEnergy/saved/8WZvWZ is a build I put togither for someone yesterday
swap out the gpu if needed
Well my motherboard right now is a Asus Prime B450M-A/CSM
Should be fine with a stock 3600 if you chose to do that, but it's on the iffy side power delivery wise. Why?
I justposted that because I happened to have made a CA pcpp yesterday anyway
Well i just recently changed my CPU to the 2600
before i was using the 2400G
Also with 4 months of saving that is all i could afford so
Nothing wrong with the 2600, it sounds like you're budget limited for the most part, so I would not recommend buying any coolers for your GPU or CPU
Save the money for a new gpu, then new CPU/mobo, not sure what ram you have. run a userbench
Well would you think a 1660 would be more than enough if i was to save up?
i personally don't care about maxing out on my games but i like it to look pretty enough
Maybe, ask me when that happens. Prices / value changes
Right now this is technically the cheapest i could buy https://www.newegg.ca/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1660-gv-n1660ixoc-6gd/p/N82E16814932168 and i don't mind Gigabyte and ITX style cards
I went MSI once for the 1050 Ti and i don't think i would ever get a MSI card again
Well at the time it was better than the 650 Ti boost i was using

The 1050 ti is great for stuff like welfare csgo single pc stream builds
Well the games i was playing at the time and not streaming was Swtor and WoW
so cause those games kept upping the graphics with each expansion i thought why not just get the 1050 Ti
The 1660 isn't huge over the 570, save more imo, unless you want streaming capability now
^
Well wouldn't the 1660 be better on cooling as well?
depends on what models
Follow the steps I mentioned earlier, then stop worrying about cooling
ok
Anyways i am heading to sleep i have to wake up at 5am and get ready for my playtest with WB Games
my msi venus oc 2060 runs at 87 degrees at 60-70% fan spin (which is loud af) even with thermal paste replacement
Is that abnormal?
Yes it seems to be
I have no clue what to do about that. I used this because I was told it was a good replacement https://www.newegg.com/p/2MB-001D-00002?item=9SIA4RE8D81802&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googlemkp-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googlemkp-pc-_-pla-corn+electronics-_-cpu+thermal+paste+%2F+grease-_-9SIA4RE8D81802&gclid=Cj0KCQjwhdTqBRDNARIsABsOl9_2Xn11hLljjjfSUW3yFvNzVkzuJtCCk90ZFi_nbBt0ieS7t1KzLusaAp8iEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
Er, you used conductanaut on your gpu? I heard in the past that it's no good on gpu
man, I just watched a review of the 5700 XT red devil, and that card is very exciting
it scrapes on 2070 super performance for $100 less
horray competition!
not surprised that they are, it's one hell of a deal at that price
in comparison to nvidia for sure, also feelsbad that midtier is now 400$
that's been midtier for a while hasn't it?
wasnt it like 200-300 before?
$500 - 600 was usually flagship
Then the dual gpu cards came and I think it was a bit more.
1080ti started at 600, with most cards being 700+
ya i think though its something that evolved over time like how people point that milk price increase comparison
cuz i remember when my bro bought a 200 ish card and was considered midtier
that sounds like a very long time ago
like uh i think late 2000's
my 1070 ftw was 450
late 2000's is at least 10 years ago at this point, that's forever in terms of PC parts
so mid range for 200 was like the 400 series?
also I feel like calling a 5700 XT mid tier at this point doesn't make much sense
based on nvidia's range at least
1660-1660ti is lower tier
2060-2060 super is mid
2070-2080 is upper tier
and the 2080ti is in a class of its own
high end is 2080+, mid is 2060-2070 range, and low is 1660 range and below
ive heard many people call it midtier, so thats where my understanding is atm. though i feel like it is more the midtier for sure but im not an expert
especially now that the difference between the 2070 super and 2080 super is pretty dang small
I don't see why you'd call the 2080 super high end, but 2070 super mid
price points vs performance
the super line skewed the tier range, thats mostly nvidias fault
because they didnt wanna step on the toes of the Ti crowd
and bascially screw themselves for the next gen launch
to end my point, people arent earning more money now then they did during that time i mentioned so. inflation?
like they did with the 2080 vs 1080ti
I still remember all those people that were defending nvidia's pricing when RTX launched
claiming that the 2080 is same tier as 1080 ti, and the 2080 ti is the titan replacement
its too expensive for sure. Not even gonna debate that
Im hoping next gen fixes some of nvidias blunders
they inflated prices to make up for the market loss of bulk selling during the crypto aids
if they bring the 3080ti back down to like 900 I think that would be okay honestly
I don't care how much they charge for the highest end stuff as long as the performance per dollar at all price points increases a fair amount between generations.
would it be better if the highest end card of one generation be lesser than the lowest end card of the next?
I'm pretty confident we won't ever see a xx80ti get released at least than $1,000 again
1,000 vs 1400 is the biggest issues for the 2080ti
cant even really find many 2080ti for around 1,000
yea. Lowest 2080ti is straight up 1,050. and thats got the worst of the silicon
theres nasty blower cooler 2080ti's that are 1100+
But they are sexy....
This is the card to get for that price right now. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Gbvqqs/msi-geforce-rtx-2070-super-8-gb-gaming-x-trio-video-card-rtx-2070-super-gaming-x-trio
Better yet, get the non-x version if it goes in stock
You could get good deals on most gpu's until the first little mining craze happened. then they went back down for a little while at the end of 2015, but since the end of 2016/early 2017 everything has gone up in price. I remember when I bought my rx480 having a really hard time trying to decide between getting it for $249 or a 1070 for $339 on sale. A few months later mining went crazy again and the prices went through the roof and I was happy just to have a decent card already. I think the manufacturers realized that gamers were still willing to pay the crazy prices for the pascal/polaris/vega during the mining craze and will never lower the price as long as people are buying the cards.
now the prices as so low, its amazing
AMD kind of came to the rescue a bit with navi to help pull prices down a bit
Now if you go back to the early to mid 2000's you could buy a brand new high end card for around $300 on launch day
I bought the Geforce 3 on launch day at Best buy which had higher prices than online and I think I paid $339.
I wonder when people will start buying up cards for CUDA workloads like tensorflow
And I think I paid around $300 for my 9800pro when it launched
I feel like Pascal, Turing cards will remain viable enough for the power they use for another generation or two
pascal is amazing
Rather, I wonder when people will start finding ways to put their compute potential to work
turing is nice but its overpriced imo
The first card I really remember thinking was too expensive for me at launch was the 8800 gtx
and that was around 2006
I think the 1080 ti was a great value for a very long time. Turing definitely became less of a price gauge when NVENCnew optimizations were released
Lol, same, I almost got a pre-built dell, I remember chatting with customer support asking why it cost 700 to upgrade to an 8800 gtx
Bought an 8800 gts 512 instead, nearly as iconic
same here
The 8800 Ultra was criticized almost the same way the 2080 ti was
sli gts's was the way to go
my 8800gt died in a tragic volt modding accident. 😄
That may have been the last card I volt modded
after that I bought my sli gtx 470's and ran those until I bought my rx480
I spent most of those years in between gaming on a console or my old laptop since I was out of town with work atleast 4 days a week. Only games I played on my desktop were cs:source and bad company 2.
and the 470's had plenty of power for that
is it worth getting the rx 580 still?
or would it be outdated really soon?
with newer games
At 1080p its still a very relevant card.
Yeah it can hit 60fps on high/ultra
I have it's good
@wide mango With the RX 580 there is still a lot of games you can play very high at 1080p and high on 1440p and if you are going to buy one go for the 8gb models
If you are planning on going anything higher than that then go for the RX 5700 and not the 590
ah thanks besides myself i have a friend who was looking to build a new computer with a 600-700 budget and was thinking of having him get the 580 8gb
but i wanted him to have a 144hz 1080p monitor so was thinking maybe the 580 would be too weak for 144 fps but i dunno
to fully utilize the monitor
What are the games your friend are playing or intends on playing anyways?
This is what I wanted to see from AMD, great competition for Nvidia.
https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_radeon_rx_5700_xt_rog_strix_review,13.html
https://puu.sh/E61xI/07f807c642.png
thats hot
I only ask because while the 580 is a great card if your friend is playing like esport titles you could go down one to the 570 instead and besides that a 144hz monitor is not wear for any card unless you're friend was planning on buying a relic like a GTX 8800 because there is still a lot of great games out there that the 580 can push more than 100 fps
he wants to have intense twitch shooter or competition gaming
so maybe overwatch, fps's, rocket league, league of legends maybe
@wide mango Also make sure it is a FreeSync monitor as well and if you plan on going less than 144hz you could always suggest this one https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824160291
Also those are esports titles mainly so even a RX 560 could play those maxed out
Kinda, if you're really competitive, you want a high 1%ile low fps
But if you mean CSGO, ya, any card can push 200+ or something
he wants the image to be super smooth with fast motion
i suppose a 580 would be fine then
and meet the 144hz monitor with fps
but he also says that hes into rpg games and i think he wants to play cyberpunk 2077
If you are going AMD for graphics stick with a FreeSync monitor
Not bad for the money, the next step up is 1440p 27" freesync TNpanel for $300
That dell is freesync
that one has gsync and freesync capatability
i found this one aswell at 27inch but has a 2ms response time https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824260622?Item=N82E16824260622&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2FthQG3C%2Fdell-d2719hgf-270-1920x1080-144-hz-monitor-d2719hgf&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-hEoOlXNWPBFJNkg9lApnGw
has freesync
ive only had a ips 4ms response monitor so i dunno how much you sacrifice for the 27 inch but these were the ones that i found for him and maybe have him get a rx580.
For me 24" is the sweet spot
and if your friend is planning on streaming with dual monitors wouldn't he need more desk space as well?
1440p 120hz gaming on 5700xt, 2070 super or 2080?
If i have to i can downclock the monitor to like 100hz
When i get one*
I mean, unless you want to run the newest, flashiest AAAA titles on max settings, ANY of those will push well over 100 fps with a decent processor.
I haven't looked into it a ton, but from what I've seen the 5700xt and the 2070 super are fairly close. The 2080 is still a step up, but the other two can push pretty close in some games. If you want raytracing go Nvidia, and if you want to keep a high framerate while doing so, do the 2080.
@latent quarry i just want 1440p on high/ultra preferably on a minimum of 100fps but as cheap as i can
As long as the card can maintain 100 fps minimum im good
Il be playing forza 7, rainbow siege, ghost recon, p3d v4, gta v, resident evil 2, and others, i have a 9900k so
If i want ray tracing go nvidia, if a high frame rate while doing so 2080? Assuming you mean high frames with ray tracing? But i dont want ray tracing so now what
@latent quarry
forza 7 doesn't like to run above 60 fps
From what I've seen, 5700xt should handle all that fine. That said, the 2070 super still outperforms it fairly often, though not always by a ton.
Forza is still a console port, so I'm not super surprised
they did better with horizon 4, but forza 7 used to crash for me all the time until I capped the fps to 60
@lone pond Just looked up some benchmarks. If you want to max settings and still get over 100 fps@1440p in most games, the 2080 is still your best bet. If you're willing to compromise on some of the settings, it's a tossup between the 2070 super and the 5700xt, with the Nvidia having the lead in more titles.
There's also a lack of non-reference cards on the AMD side, but that will change. The 5700xt is also $100-150 cheaper and potentially has some room to grow.
fwiw, for some reason the AMD card performed ~25% better in Forza horizon 4 than the 2070 super, but I don't know if that would translate into better Forza 7 performance, especially if there are optimization issues like those mentioned.
could have something to do with consoles all being AMD based
Maybe, yeah.
This was somewhat useful. The only games I'd really worry about not hitting 100+ frames are the tom clancy games. And maybe forza 7, but that's a different issue. Here's the article for reference: https://www.techspot.com/review/1870-amd-radeon-rx-5700/
I think the only OC'ing these tests may apply is just increasing the power limit in the software, which isn't really an OC, just giving the card more breathing room with power draw.
Yes I agree
gotcha
i wouldnt get vega rn
nvidia will go in flames when radeon decides to go for the top tier
just like Ryzen is coming after intel
I feel like ryzen is beyond "coming after intel", they're already there
the 3900x is legitimate competition to intel's flagship 9900k, while offering new technology on AMD motherboards that intel doesn't offer yet
I feel like the hardest thing for AMD to do with GPUs will be competing with ray tracing and DLSS come next generation of nvidia cards
in the mid tier those things don't matter, so it's pretty much raw performance competition, in top tier, especially when nvidia has more cards in the future, it'll be a different story
AMD will need a trump card of their own
true, all they have left to overcome is becoming the best for gaming, intel has them by 1% i believe
isnt the new xbox or ps5 coming out with ray tracing and its amd? i thought i saw that somewhere
yeah but when you take price into consideration, that tiny difference is insignificant
very true
I don't know, I haven't heard that about the consoles
I use an intel cpu and nvidia GPU, but I'm 100% for strong competition from red side lol
yesss XD
yeah that's all consoles have been using for years
i have nvidia but thats just because i wanted top tier
true, i heard rumors of ray tracing, not sure though
I've got an 8700k 1080ti system, when that got put together ryzen wasn't competing at top end yet
hm, a quick google search pulls up multiple articles supporting what you said about the consoles
but there's nothing form sony or microsoft explaining how that is going to work
yeah, im excited to see what theyll do. i doubt ill get one because #pcmasterrace and ill never go back lol
from my understanding of ray tracing, it's not really something that is exclusive to nvidia, hell you can enable it on non RTX nvidia cards, they just can't handle it very well
exactly
rt cores of RTX cards are something that belongs to nvidia
which means amd will have to find another way to have enough grunt to support it
yup. and if they keep this up theyll have nvidia
and i hope they do
1200 for a graphics card is ridiculous
radeon can beat that
tell me about it, I paid around $850 for my evga 1080ti hybrid, and that was back when the mining craze was still going
when nvidia announced 2080ti pricing, I was disgusted
yeah, i was like yeah that isnt happening, i got a 2080 instead
plus nvidia is keeping all the good chips for themselves while giving the leftovers to their board partners
I thought about swapping to a 2080, because for a while I was going to do a custom water loop which my card doesn't support any blocks for
gotcha
but now I'm just going to wait for next generation
nice
I only play at 1440p resolution, there's literally no point in upgrading as of now
nah, same here
1440 is great for me, still get ultra settings around 90fps on most game
games*
i find 1080p is fine for me
i liked it, i just wanted a bigger screen so it worked
my main monitor is 27", I like the screen space
damn anyone know if there will be new aib 5700 series cards coming out soon?
cuz i dont wanna wait till the end of septemeber or octobor to get one lol
There out
They have been out
There might be a few more
There are usually new aib's that trickle out through the cards life, but I don't think there's a way to predict if or when they will come
the gigabyte ones havn't released yet
so you can expect those along with the aorus cards about the same time
the 3 fan windforce cards are up on some retailers pages, but not available yet.
Can anyone help me find graphics cards that work with my system?
wot system
please say potatoe
Alienware Aurora R4
dang it
type dxdiag into your windows search bar if you in a windows os. That'll have some of the specs of your computer like gpu, processor and stuff
os= operating system
the search bar should be there when you open your start menu at the bottom left
if not just have it open and start typing
let us know whats in it
i7-4820k, gtx 680
Where do I find that?
Probably
it looks like a itx computer case?
not sure if thats the right terminology
but you can open it to confirm power supply if true
um
ill leave that to someone else more qualified to tell you to do that or not
but 875 seems good enough to handle alot
it seems to be 875watts, mines 750watts
so it's definitely an older gen system
ya looks older
2013
pcie 3, though it won't name the motherboard on that page
it does use ddr3 tho so that's pretty telltale
pcie 2 I meanz
the good thing about video cards is they're backwards compatible unlike ram, so you're not really held back by your motherboard
since I wasn't 100% sure about this, I double checked with google, and looks like you're fine as far as bottlenecking a new card
"no pcie 2.0 will not bottleneck and will likely not anytime soon. gpus dont even come close to the bandwidth limit. though $4000 ssds are approaching the bottleneck. pcie 3.0@x8 is the same speed as pcie 2.0@16x"
is a gtx 1650 great?
o here we go
dunno much about nvidia.
Motherboard Information
•MB_Manufacturer: Alienware
•MB_Product: 0FPV4P
•MB_SerialNumber: ..CN6970239R0805.
•MB_Version: A00
@potent shoal the 1650 is mainly an upgrade from the 1050
What card do you suggest?
1060/1660 or RX 5708gb/5804gb
id be concerned if your motherboard might cause you problems when getting a new graphics card but i dunno
besides that whats your budget for a gpu?
Im open to anything under 500
for just the GPU right?
basically anything not the 2080+
@potent shoal What games do you play or intend to play?
Minecraft
and at what resolution
Fortnite, destiny 2
raytrace minecraft or normal?
New games
is what you intend?
I'd probably just go expensive as you're comfortable with on video card
because it's one of the only things you can upgrade on this system, and then once the rest of the system become too slow, you can just move the card to whatever new system you buy in the future
@potent shoal what is your system specs you're using now?
he has i7-4820k, gtx 680
the specs page was linked a little bit above
hes using a Alienware Aurora R4 System
2014 Era
Personally i would say then a 1660 Ti or 2060
it's a previous gen motherboard, so ddr3 and whatever you call that specific intel chipset
Also what's the monitor you're using?
my guess would be a 1080p monitor
A 1080p with 60GHz HDR
but even at 1440p those GPU's would be more than enough
I plan on upgrading it too
upgrading to 1440p? or staying at 1080p gaming?
1080p
maybe a 5700 XT~
That's what I was gonna suggest
There might be a bit of a bottleneck with what he is using
my point was that when he finally upgrades the rest of his system, he won't have to worry about a gpu
@gray vapor It might bottle neck for now but gives him room to not worry about gpu when he upgrades or buys a new pc
Would it maintain stable 120fps with high settings?
that card at 1080p definitely could
5700 xt? on 1080 60 hz? yeah, you won't have to worry about that lol
you should get cpu-z and tell us what motherboard you have
I guess it depends on the game too though, maybe something a little more cpu heavy might struggle
Destiny 2 i was able to max that out with 55 fps with a 1050 Ti
I love seeing all these people helping others out 😄
buncha value addicts
Well isn't that the point of this server?
Yeah it is but still makes me happy
Would an RTX 2060 work?
i think this is the right site for cpu-z https://www.cpuid.com
Yeah thats the site
and this one for GPU-Z https://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
please get cpu-z for windows and launch it to see the motherboard
Does NVIDIA make 5700 xt?
That is AMD
Oh and it would work with intel processor?
rx 5700 would be a better choice i think






