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dense flicker
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the super name is bad, and then they put a crappy logo with it too

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😭😭😭

obtuse spindle
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yeah

main mauve
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honestly; i don't care about the branding for as long as the cards perform well

dense flicker
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thats true but i mean

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its

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so

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ugly

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the rest of the card is black and silver

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and the super add on logo is green

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it sticks out so much

gleaming valve
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i agree... asthetically its terrible

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thats not based on the fact that i just bought a 2080 xc ultra like 90 days ago and now the rtx 2060 super is close in performance.....

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which i AM salty about

cosmic sinew
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Super!

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Hmm. Wonder how the cards actually perform. Radeon VII is still nice for OpenCL.

little slate
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The 2070 super is close to 2080 performance, the 2060 super isn't

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The 2070 super is like a poorly binned 2080, it's basically the same hardware that rolled badly on the silicone lottery

violet kite
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Hot take: the Super series is just a bunch of badly manufactured cards that are one step up from what they say they are

lone pond
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should I just get the 2080ti Black or should I go for the 2080ti XC Ultra?

Reviews show the Black is probably the better choice, but IDK...

@ me with replies

native phoenix
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does it really matter for performance or is it just the aesthetics?

lone pond
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the XC Ultra has a much thicker cooler

native phoenix
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how thic are we talking here

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like thanos thic

lone pond
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like thanos thiccc

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1.5 vs 3

native phoenix
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i don't know if a 1.5 increas of thic would help cool it better

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thats the other thing though do you like big Thicc collers

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or are you going for nice and sleak

hoary vortex
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Hello

obtuse spindle
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what's going on?

lone pond
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@pastel field It's a decent performing card from a good brand.

pastel field
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cool, iv'e had it for a while just wanted to know if i made the right choice

lone pond
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If you got it for a good price to performance ratio, then yeah.

pastel field
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i havn't really been able to tell cause im using like a 15 year old dell moniter but when i get my new one then hopefully everything will look great

hexed stag
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why is the 2080tis cheaper than the 1080s?

granite juniper
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Because the crypto mining thing made prices inflated, and limited stock because they don’t make a lot anymore

solar warren
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What is Ray tracing and what is it good for? I am seeing people say that the 2060 and 2080 is somehow better ( in both value and price) than the 1080.
1080 has better specs and is 100-200 dollars less

celest marten
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Ray tracing is a way that light works in game

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well 1080 Non-TI was a pricey card. after they put out the 1070 TI

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Nvidia announced that they will be phasing out the 2070 and 2080 for the 2070 super and 2080 super cards they just announced. 2070 Super comes out the 7th of this month and the 2080 Super comes out on the 23rd of this month as well. later plans for the 2060 super as well.

rough harness
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@solar warren raytracing is all about light sources.. makes better shadows, and looks sexy... about 4-5 games use it... they announced another 5-6 at E3 last month.

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And the 20 series of the cards overall are a better card then the 10 series... the 1080 Ti is the exception. IMO.. There is an unlock for some of the 1080s for raytracing but really Boggs them down, not as stable.

celest marten
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@rough harness I've seen a list of games that use it, it should be around 17 that support real time ray tracing and 28 that support DLSS, with mods even more games do support ray tracing.

fringe reef
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is a rx570 8gb OC armor edition good? i picked one up for $114 on ebay

fallen schooner
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yes.

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That's a decent card.

solar warren
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so Ray tracing makes the game look better but takes a major hit for fps

obtuse spindle
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yeah

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it cuts performance about in half

solar warren
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does it help with editing?

obtuse spindle
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video editing and rendering?

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that's all CUDA cores

obtuse elbow
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what the max temp you guys run your gpu

random venture
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114

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f

obtuse elbow
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I am playing with overclocking my RTX 2080 RN. Seeing what I should get it up too

random venture
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i cant help with that i have a custom cooling loop that goes threw my 2080 ti oc and i dent run it with out it

obtuse elbow
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I am reading that 90C is safe. How true is that

random venture
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i cant tell you

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sounds about right

fallen schooner
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90c is not save.

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safe

obtuse elbow
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@fallen schooner what do you recommend then ?

random venture
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but its mostly cooler

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go

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srry

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one sec

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go into msi after burner and turn up the fan speed

fallen schooner
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I'd say not play around and break your card.

random venture
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you wont

obtuse elbow
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So stop here ?

random venture
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its just fan speeds

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fallen schooner
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What are you even talking about Clinton

random venture
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if you go into msi after burner you can turn up you cards fan speed for optimized cooling

obtuse elbow
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I have it at 80 right now and I can’t hear shit. Then again. I pretty much deaf

random venture
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ok

obtuse spindle
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also, language

tired stump
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Can’t hear πŸ’© *

brittle lodge
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Hey I'm tryna find a good graphics card no higher than 340. Any recommendations?

turbid nymph
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2060 6gb

lone pond
brittle lodge
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I can go 10 over that's not too bad

lone pond
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I would suggest EVGA over other brands, they are arguably the best.

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Plus that SC model is clocked higher than stock so you'll get better performance.

brave epoch
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2080ti vs 2080 super which has a better price to performance. Does anyone know

dense flicker
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in performance the 2080ti is better

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at least according to nvidia

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but the 2080 super will be better bang for your buck

brave epoch
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what about fps per $

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thats also just ray tracing what about fps

dense flicker
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still the 2080 super i guess

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nobody knows though

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wait till the independent reviewers review them

brave epoch
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ok

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thanks

half sapphire
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psst

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someone find me a RTX 2060?

dense flicker
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?

half sapphire
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I need to find a rtx 2060 on sale ;))

dense flicker
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wait a week lol

oblique cypress
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exactly

lone pond
half sapphire
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hope it fits in my case

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lol

lone pond
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get out the measuring tape, lol

random venture
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no

subtle socket
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I have a questions about a graphic card for my mac. Anyone well versed in that area?

little slate
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what kind of mac are we talking about?

shut yew
cursive meteor
carmine wharf
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has anyone noticed that nvidia doesn't sell normal rtx cards they only sell the 2080ti why is this?

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I wanted to buy the rtx 2060 from nvidia no modifications (like asus and other brands do to their gpu's) but there were none on the website this is dumb

fallen schooner
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You mean the Founders Edition?

carmine wharf
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yes

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they don't sell them anymore for some reason

fallen schooner
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pretty sure they only make those right at the beginning.

carmine wharf
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idk

fallen schooner
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they don't keeping making them.

carmine wharf
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rip

fallen schooner
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same with any other founders edition.

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might can find a used one I'm sure.

carmine wharf
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whelp i wanted to get a brand new one but idek

fallen schooner
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gotta get them when they first come out.

carmine wharf
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whelp i geuss ill just get the rtx 2060 super or whatever that is

dreamy dragonBOT
fallen schooner
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that's a good idea.

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will have better performance anyways

carmine wharf
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true

vestal sparrow
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Lol found someone putting a 1080 on the carpet

carmine wharf
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nice

vestal sparrow
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No that really isn't

carmine wharf
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yes

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it is

subtle socket
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I have a 5,1 with Xeon 12 core 3.06 ghz 64gb ram and my card now is hd7950, got pretty decent benchmarks really but want to upgrade it. Head amd works well with Final Cut Pro and I have a samsung tv so FreeSync is a plus. Just not sure how high end I want to go. Was thinking Vega 64, but originally was thinking rx590

reef dock
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@subtle socket you're talking about two different types right, professional and gaming. What's the purpose of your card?

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Also on the 7th AMD releases a new GPU card and processor set. And on the 27th Nvidia releases the updated 20's calling them 2080 super, 2070 super, and 2060 super. But if you want a professional grade card for Adobe and various programs, the architecture is different

subtle socket
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I’ll be using mainly for video editing maybe some gaming...but mostly want my editing fast and smooth especially with 4K

cursive meteor
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I put my 2080 in a carpet.

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1080*

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:’)

reef dock
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Oh... that'll be tough, I'd look into the professional set that AMD offers. NAB in 2014 Vegas said AMD was the cream of the crop for video cards and components. What's your budget?

subtle socket
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I have a AMD Vega 64 in my cart for 300 dollars that I’ll pull the trigger on...The new Radeon 7 is 700+ I don’t think I need all that. The new macs coming out start with a rx590 I believe and you can upgrade to Vega 64. So I might as well go with it

reef dock
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Sounds like you made up your mind. I'm sure you wont be disappointed either way. But I'd double check on being able to upgrade the mac, which system are you talking about for them?

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Well both cards should drop in price by the end of the month if you can wait that long

feral axle
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i think itll probably perform as good as a radeon 5700

jolly river
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Well

modern oar
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Hey guys I was wondering if you could still purchase a 1080 ti founders edition, because one of mine that I was running sli with burnt out.

jolly river
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I am so rich, that I actually have a gt 1030

modern oar
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I got them on eday about 2 years ago for $450 each of an ebay auction

jolly river
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Really

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450...

modern oar
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yeah

jolly river
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For 1080TIs?

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I'd be selling my body on the street to get those GPUs

modern oar
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Who

jolly river
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Probably 7

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I could get maybe 16cent a minute

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Yeah

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Close enough

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No

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More

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Well,

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For my stafe

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State*

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Idk I'm 7 and in like 1st grade

obtuse spindle
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πŸ‘€

modern oar
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The second 1080 ti blew out on me, because we had a power outage, and it destroyed my surge protector, and one of my graphics cards.

jolly river
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Or home owners or renters insurance or even that power company

modern oar
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The surge protector was not on warranty wen this happened

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I could call the power company

dreamy dragonBOT
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Hanzo Main#7432 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

modern oar
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Our home owners iinsurance is really bad

jolly river
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I have a large surge protector that is connected to the power lines and since my father is an electrical engineer he help me set it up out side my house

modern oar
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ok

jolly river
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It's like one of those cylinders you see on the power poles

modern oar
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I had a surge protector connected to the outlet on the wall of my room

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it was like $50

jolly river
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Oh oh oh

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I think I know what you are talking about

modern oar
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The company that made it was phillips

jolly river
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Like one of those things that connect to the wall and split into multiple outlets on

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It's chassis

modern oar
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I got it from home depot.

jolly river
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Hmm

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I got mine off amazon

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I haven't gone to home depot in a while

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Not the cylinder thing

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But the wall surge protector

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I just use it for easier cable management

modern oar
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Yeah, except it was like an industrial with like 10 outlets connected to a 220 watt wall outlet

jolly river
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How long did you have it?

modern oar
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about 7 years

jolly river
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Oh

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Yeah

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That might be the problem

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My step mothers computer went out from a power surge and I took apart her pc and harvested the hard drive from it and there was like 2 pounds of dust

modern oar
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I had that one running off of my first build which had 780's running sli

jolly river
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780...

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Woe

modern oar
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My power supply did not fail on me though which was really weird

jolly river
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I haven't heard about one of those in a while

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What psu do you have

modern oar
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I still have that builld, my mom uses it to do light gaming, and surfig the web

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I have an Evga 1000 watt power supply 80

jolly river
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Wow

modern oar
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+gold rated

jolly river
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Better than I have lol

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I have a new g3 750watt

modern oar
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That is good

jolly river
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Yeah

modern oar
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what is the power efficency rating on it

jolly river
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But expensive

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80 plus gold

modern oar
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ok

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Yeah anythin above silver gets to be pricy

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I have a really cool job too.

jolly river
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What do you work as?

modern oar
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I am doing an apprenticeship with nemak as an engineer

jolly river
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Wow

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Engineers make a lot of money

modern oar
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I make about $25 an hour, and when I am done with trade school they will be paying me $30

jolly river
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Im a information and systems manager for one of my wealthy friends companys

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Lil I'm stupid compared to all of you guys

modern oar
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After school, I will have to work there for three years, ad ten I can work somewhere else and make more money

jolly river
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Lol not lil

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I went to college for 4 years in information and computer science

modern oar
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I started my apprenticeship when I was 16, and I should be done next year

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cool

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I am only 19

jolly river
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Wow!

modern oar
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I have to go to trade school for 4 years

jolly river
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Better than my sister lol

modern oar
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haha

jolly river
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She is 27

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2 years older than me

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I'm 25

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She is working at Walmart

modern oar
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I actually graduated my sophomore yeare

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year

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I am typing way to fast

jolly river
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Wow, smart

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My sister was a super Senior

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She went to high school for 5 years

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Instead of 4

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She failed her senior year

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And have 4 kids by time she was 27

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And she is pregnant again

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I have no kids

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And sadly, I'm still a virgin

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But I spoil the hell out of my nieces and nephews

modern oar
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Yeah, I graduated early, so that I could help my family by getting a job and help pay bills, because my mom recently became devorced, so I help my mom make sure we still have the house, and have a good life

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My sibilings are walking horomones

jolly river
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A lot more honorable than my my reason to make money

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I got my job because I wanted to buy a patek Philippe

modern oar
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My mom owns a 5 bedroom home, me and my gf have a room my mom has her own room, and my sibilings have there own room

jolly river
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Damn

modern oar
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and then we have a guest be

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bed

jolly river
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I live in a luxury apartment with me and my 1 dog

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3 bed rooms

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2 bath rooms

modern oar
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I have a dog

jolly river
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And my cousin is the manager of the apartment building

modern oar
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cool

jolly river
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And he gave me a discount

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But by 5percent

modern oar
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brb gotta let my dog in

jolly river
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Ight

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You wanna continue in the dms

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So the people that actually want to talk about of parts can talk about them

oblique cypress
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yes because that's what this channel is about lol

modern oar
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I am back

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My dog was yeah

runic trail
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I'm still confused, should I go with an RTX 2070 SUPER/RTX 2080 SUPER or AMD's 5000 series?

dense flicker
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5000xt is comparable to the 2070

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so a 2070 super or higher will be better

rough harness
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Wait a month... see the real benchmarks... and price wars to start even more

dense flicker
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but

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wait for independent benchmarks and reviews

runic trail
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Ok

runic trail
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um

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please say that wasn't you..

oblique cypress
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let's hope that system was broken or fried.

rough harness
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His name is Salt.... so he is salty.... lol

oblique cypress
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exactly

jaunty fractal
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@half sapphire sorry WHAT?!

half sapphire
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watercooled

magic pebble
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salt water?

modern oar
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If you could cool your PC with hot sauce would you

outer island
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Is Raytracing really going to be a thing?

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ie are the RTX cards worth the $$$$ pricetag vs the new AMD series dropping on sunday?

runic trail
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RTX SUPER cards are coming out

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They'll be better than AMD's 5000 series

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I believe they're worth it if you get the SUPER card

outer island
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I've already got an RTX2060, but its only the 6gb 192 bit version...

runic trail
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Oof

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Should've waited

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I'd suggest selling it and getting the RTX 2060 SUPER for MSRP 399$, it'll be 8GB

outer island
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but for 450 you can get the 8gb XT series that performs on par or above the 2070, so is the raytracing really worth it?

uncut spear
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its always been with amd u get budget with nvidia u get quality,talking form personal experience

runic trail
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Agreed.\

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And not everyone gets RTX cards for the raytracing

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We get it for the software

outer island
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never used anythng but nvidia. just tempting for the price vs the 2070

runic trail
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The performance

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I hate my RX 560 2GB

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Not only the performance

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But AMD's software

uncut spear
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my gtx 970 was equal to the rx580 yet my 970 was more stable

runic trail
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If you wanna go stretched res on Fortnite, insanely complicated

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NVIDIA, it's a lot wasier

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I would go with NVIDIA

uncut spear
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if ur spending that much get a 1080ti used its a good deal for that price and there are alot of them around

outer island
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Thats been my gut feeling, but AMD put on a good show this year ha ha.

runic trail
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Ehh

random venture
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560 is fine

runic trail
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Processors, yeah.

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nu uh clinton

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I absolutely HATE it

random venture
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i uses to have one and it was fine

outer island
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I just can't bring myself to buy used with no support or warranty

runic trail
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I have an RX 560 2GB, FX 6300 and 8GB 1600MHz

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And I hate the software for AMD

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Love AMD's

uncut spear
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prossessors i love amd graphics cards i have always had issues wit hthem

outer island
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what kind of issues do you experience with AMD GPUs?

random venture
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is it ibuypower or ciber power

runic trail
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Cyber power

random venture
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yea

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i got lucky and won a contest for a i9 9900k so i just went for the gusto and got a 2080ti oc

uncut spear
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unstable frames and overheating issues

outer island
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How is inadequate cooling blamed on the card?

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Isn't that more of a build issue?

vernal hill
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Bro go GTX 1660. Upgrades from a 1050 Ti and it’s great

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Upgraded*

uncut spear
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well i used in 2 seperate cases and when i got my 2080ti it never went above 40c

runic trail
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@random venture what was your old PC?

outer island
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Fair enough

uncut spear
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i was hitting 85-90c with rx 5880

runic trail
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rx 5880 lmfao

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sorry

random venture
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ibuypower amd 6300 RX560

uncut spear
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but it could of been fulty too

runic trail
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o

uncut spear
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i would stay away from the fx series unless its the 8350 ish ,ryzen even first gen has huge gains

outer island
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I built my case with 3 intake fans, two top exhaust and one rear exhaust just to keep things cool. Might be overkill but I had never built a pc that used this much power before so I was kinda guessing

random venture
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i never get over heating

runic trail
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anyone have excess PC parts they're not using?

random venture
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i have a custom cooling loop

uncut spear
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my first case had no back plate for cable managment and 6 fans and my new case with a back plate only has 4 fans is wayyyy cooler

outer island
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Yeah I thought about going with a more complicated setup, but just didn't want to deal with it until I saw how this performed. I rarely hit 75 at full load.

uncut spear
runic trail
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WHO'S MANS IS THIS?

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A 1650 TI!?!?!?

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LMFAO

random venture
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my i9 9900k "clocked to 4.2 on all 18 cores" never gets over 20c

runic trail
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UM

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there is only 8 cores

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on the 9900k..

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are you lying?

random venture
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no

runic trail
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where'd you get 18 cores lmfao

random venture
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im typing quick im working in a new pc

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it was a typo

runic trail
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o

outer island
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Is your fluid cooled? That's basically room temp.

runic trail
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okay phew

random venture
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yea

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im building a pc for my friend

outer island
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what do you use to cool the fluid?

random venture
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wym

obtuse spindle
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you'd use a radiator and fans to cool the fluid

random venture
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i have the pump and a 360mm rad

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i had a buddy do it for me cuz i would mess it up knowing me

outer island
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Yep, I get that, but to keep the processor at 68 you're ambient air temp must be below 60F with a radiator only.

random venture
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nooooo

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i have a custom loop

outer island
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Ok, but the fluid will warm to above ambient at load so your ambient air temp needs to be about 8 to 10 degrees F below the temp you run at due to the small volume of coolant. I build custom cooling systems for liquid cooled lasers and you can't cool below ambient with just a radiator.

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So I am just wanting to know what kind of custom loop you are using because you are getting some great results.

random venture
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i have a custom loop for my gpu and cpu

outer island
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any chance you could post a picture of your system?

random venture
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and some extra room for a extra card

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yea on sec

outer island
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thanks!

random venture
runic trail
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LMAOOOOOOO

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"GAMING PC"

random venture
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wtf

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i got to go to bed see yea

runic trail
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cya

random venture
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bye

outer island
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later

outer island
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So anyway, back to my original question, is the raytracing feature of the RTX card worth the extra expense, or is there somthing to the new XT5000 series from AMD that make them less hype and more contender?

runic trail
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It somewhat is

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But I'd still go with NVIDIA

obtuse spindle
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we don't know yet, wait till the 7th when the cards and reviews release

outer island
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Well there is always a bigger better deal with tech that's for sure. I am just struggling to see what the big deal is with RTX as raytracing seems to be ahead of its time given that we are struggling to push CPU tech forward at the moment due to manufacturing issues. Just my opinion but where raytracing will really come into it's own is VR, and that will require CPU tech that is over 5Ghz to be truly imersive.

wraith pasture
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It's a new technology that came before game companies could use it

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But the cards themselves are fast af

outer island
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agreed

obtuse spindle
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the fact that we can even do real time ray tracing is an astonishing achievement

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ray traced scenes take hours to render

outer island
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I remember rendering hand coded POV in the 90s

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I think it was called POV ray

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it took like 7 days to render a 1min camera path through a hand coded castle gate.

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@obtuse spindle Can I get your opinion? Is 1440p 32" 144hz too much for the RTX 2060 for FPS and Flight sim gaming?

violet kite
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Raytracing is to VR, what VR was to gaming.

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Meaning it's kind of a few years out, at least.

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And even then it's not gonna be amazing.

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Cause VR really hasn't quite taken off just yet.

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It's getting there, but it'll take time, same goes for ray tracing.

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Which is not a very big selling point now that I've experienced it myself with my RTX card

obtuse spindle
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short answer: it is if you want all the eye candy

violet kite
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RTX cards are powerful, Nvidia did a good job.

obtuse spindle
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yeah for sure

violet kite
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But I'd like to build an AMD rig and see how good their cards are.

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They seem super competitive for the pricepoint and benchmarks released.

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And AMDs CPUs are a shoein.

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I have a 2070 and can't even push the thing with 1440p High-Rez textures in Monster Hunter Online.

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Which is an absolutely gorgeous and highly intensive game with said high-rez texture pack.

outer island
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Have you played Star Citizen with it?

violet kite
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No I have not, but my younger brother's 1060 can run it at ~27 FPS on average, so I'm sure a 2070 could run it like a champ.

obtuse spindle
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yeah, SC isn't really a fair test

violet kite
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Albeit, Star Citizen is a very unoptimized game.

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And runs bad on all systems.

outer island
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yeah my 2060 runs it at around 50 to 60

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and it is horribly un optimized.

violet kite
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Yeap, heh.

outer island
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good for testing though.

violet kite
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As far as I know, the RTX is the most powerful series. But the Super series feels like a weird scam.

#

Lots of conspiracy theories going around that the Super cards are just badly binned cards silicone lottery losers from the next series up being sold anyways.

outer island
#

yeah I am pissed that I bought this ASUS overclocked version of the 2060 even at the great deal I got it at.

#

only to find out there is an 8G 256 bit version

little slate
#

But the 8 gig version isn't even out yet.

outer island
#

Well in 2 days it will be... just annoyed ATM I guess.

violet kite
#

I understand, man.

outer island
#

wanted a 2070... just couldn't spend the $$$$ that NVIDIA is commanding

#

2060 does do pretty well in division 2 though

violet kite
#

2060 is an awesome card.

#

Best bang for your buck when it came out.

#

Ray Tracing, beefy as all get out, and with that nvidia quality that you know won't be garbage.

outer island
#

yeah mine is the asus strix 06G version.

violet kite
#

It honestly will most likely become as ubiquitous as the GTX 770 as far as well aged cards.

#

That's nice.

#

My 2070 is a Strix as well.

outer island
#

yeah just really bummed that it's gonna be available in 256 bit for the same price I paid

violet kite
#

Yeah, honestly, don't let it bother you. When you buy bleeding edge tech, it's almost instantly at a loss because of how such tech goes.

#

It was still a great purchase and it'll last you a long time.

outer island
#

Can't argue with you there.

#

at least my MOBO is going to support the new 3rd gen AMD CPUs!

violet kite
#

Plus, with any luck, your card will still be worth 200 bucks in a few years.

#

And heck yeah, brother. You've got that cool stuff to look forward to.

outer island
#

maybe by the time I need to upgrade, Star Citizen will be close to beta ha ha ha

violet kite
#

HEH

#

The future of tech is promising my friend, and you're already in with your 2060 and mobo, things are looking up!

outer island
#

I can't agree more! My Grandmother witnessed the invention of the auto and the airplane as well as computers and the internet and I wish she could see computers now. If I get to see stuff half that mind blowing, the stuff my kid is going to see will be bottled insanity.

grave valley
#

my dudes and dudettes, I'm building a gaming PC for a friend and his main expectation of it is that it will run ark on a decent to low resolution and with good framerates. my translation of that is 60 fps and 1080p. I don't think he has a monitor or tv that will display anything nicer anyway so....I'm planning on using a Ryzen 5. the minimum sys requirement says 8gb of ram but i'm thinking 16.. Would I be able to meet his requirements with a rx 570? If not what are your suggestions for a decent budget card that could work in this build to meet his expected performance? motherboard is up in the air but budget would be good if you have any suggestions on that front as well. also if you know good sites for budget parts that would be great too.

cold stream
#

Maybe not at the highest settings but I don't see why rx 570 wouldn't work

grave valley
#

cool

fallen schooner
#

you will definitely need 16gb

#

I run r5 1600 / 16gb 3k mhz / 1080fe

#

I play on high to epic and get 40-70fps

#

the game with discord open I see about 10 to 11gb of ram usage.

cold stream
#

Sounds like a poorly optimized game to me

obtuse spindle
#

what, Ark? pfft

#

it's a horribly optimized game

little slate
#

You should wait for the new gpus from amd and nvidia to fully release this month before getting something though

steel charm
#

has anyone recently bought a gpu?

#

an rtc cord in particular

#

card^

weary kayak
#

yes

#

I bought a 2060 fairly recently

runic trail
#

Big oof

#

@farme\

weary kayak
#

dont oof me

runic trail
#

oof

#

πŸ˜‰

dense vigil
#

nvidia........ lower prices moar plz

runic trail
#

But because, on July 9th, the SUPER series is coming out

weary kayak
#

I bought it in april

runic trail
#

All regular RTX cards except 2080 ti and 2060 are being discontinued

#

The 2060 SUPER will have an MSRP of 399$

weary kayak
#

wdym

runic trail
#

From 6GB to 8GB

#

And much better specs

#

All RTX regular cards will be discontinued

#

Except for the 2080 Ti and 2060

weary kayak
#

why

runic trail
#

Because RTX SUPER cards are coming out

#

RTX 2060 SUPER

#

RTX 2070 SUPER

#

etc

weary kayak
#

oh

valid bane
#

im getting a 2070

runic trail
#

Except for 2080 Ti

#

Same, I might get a 2080 SUPER

valid bane
#

wait, should i wait for these super ones?

weary kayak
#

how much is a 2060 super

runic trail
#

@valid bane Yes, defo

weary kayak
#

399

runic trail
#

All RTX SUPER cards except for 2060 will be the same price as the regular MSRP for the 2070 and 2080

#

Let me put it in a simpler form.

weary kayak
#

I spent 380... sad hecker hours

runic trail
#

The 2070 and 2080 SUPER will have the same price as a regular 2070 and 2080

#

But with a lot better specs

weary kayak
#

stop making me feel sad now

runic trail
valid bane
#

how much is msrp

runic trail
#

Lmfao @weary kayak you can return it possibly

weary kayak
#

I bought it in april

valid bane
#

for 2070

runic trail
#

RTX 2070 MSRP is 499$, same as regular

#

It literally says on the website

valid bane
#

okay, im def waiting then

runic trail
#

And I said the prices will be the same

valid bane
#

sorry running in and out at work lmao

runic trail
#

Oh, understood, all good

weary kayak
#

I did get an overclocking 2060 tho

runic trail
#

Still won't be to the point of a 2060 SUPER over clocking though

#

Sorry my friend

weary kayak
#

its alright I guess

runic trail
#

Where'd you get it from?

weary kayak
#

msi

runic trail
#

I'd suggest trying to get a refund and send it back

#

So you can save up like an extra 100 bucks and get that money

#

For an RTX 2060 SUPER

#

You'll be happy if you do, trust me

weary kayak
#

well it cost me 380

#

I have an extra 20

runic trail
#

If you buy the 2060 SUPER July 9th

#

Then you'll probably get it for 400$

#

Either than that, no.

weary kayak
#

it says ineligible for return

#

I looked

runic trail
#

big oof

weary kayak
#

its a good card

runic trail
#

Put it on eBay or like craigslist for like 330$

#

Or if it is in really good condition, like 350$\

weary kayak
#

its in perfect condition lol

runic trail
#

Yet you have it in your PC right?

weary kayak
#

im looking for a job atm hopefully before school starts

#

yeah

runic trail
#

So even though it's in perfect condition

weary kayak
#

decreases value

runic trail
#

That still makes it used.

#

Yeah, so about 350$

#

Lowest, 330$ in that condition

weary kayak
#

if I sold this one and bought a 2060 super

#

TECHNICALLY

runic trail
#

Wait how old are you?

weary kayak
#

I have integrated gpu too... so it wouldnt be completely useless while ide wait for the new one

runic trail
#

And what's your GPU?

#

I mean CPU lmfao

weary kayak
#

i7 7700

#

uhh

#

im on the younger side

runic trail
#

mmm

#

I'm 13

weary kayak
#

halfway towards 18

runic trail
#

The FE cards

weary kayak
#

wow

#

uhh

#

sooo different lol

runic trail
#

Not really

#

Just the black part.

#

And the "super" text

weary kayak
#

what do you have as a pc rn?

runic trail
#

I wish I had a lot better one, I have a YT channel and wanna play bigger games but can't

#

RX 560 2GB, FX 6300 and 8GB 1600MHz RAM 😦

weary kayak
#

get a vpn

runic trail
#

Um why?

weary kayak
#

holy old ok

#

perhaps avoid a weird hacker thing from happening again

#

I saw yt lol

#

why'd people stop talking

runic trail
#

A weird hacker thing?

#

oh lmfao

#

please delete it

#

and that is on PS4

weary kayak
#

when someone says they have yt ill look at it, but not any other things like twitter

#

usually

runic trail
#

Oh

violet kite
#

If you get marginally popular as a YTer, they can be easily targeted for DOXing or swatting if they don't have good encryption.

#

If you can afford it, it's relatively cheap, monthly, you can avoid that 99%.

weary kayak
#

now for our sponsor

violet kite
#

ExpressVPN

#

πŸ‘

weary kayak
#

tunnelbear vpn

#

oh

violet kite
#

Express is one of the best.

runic trail
#

I already have a VPN

violet kite
#

They don't store any logs that could connect you back to where you bought your VPN.

runic trail
#

NordVPN

violet kite
#

That's also a good oen that does the same.

#

They only have timestamps for your login and hold no other information.

#

Even cops couldn't get ahold of your information if they wanted to.

runic trail
#

I want to play a game

#

what game..

weary kayak
#

if you go that hard to find someones ip

runic trail
#

a free gamer

weary kayak
#

you got issues

runic trail
#

game*

weary kayak
#

maplestory 2 is fun

runic trail
#

no

#

I hate it

#

imo

#

No offense lmao

weary kayak
#

tis korean

runic trail
#

I'm Asian

weary kayak
#

oh no im not

#

the game is

runic trail
#

Oh lmao

weary kayak
#

oh ok

#

I have a 500w psu

#

the 2060 super would need a 550

#

ok that makes me feel a little better

weary kayak
#

yes?

runic trail
#

Watch the video lmao

weary kayak
#

doing it rn

half sapphire
#

problem for me rn is im not sure if the GPU would even fit due to it's THICC frame and how it would rest on the RAM lol

weary kayak
#

mine started to sag sadly

#

as all do

half sapphire
#

get a pool noodle and cut it to the size lol

dreamy haven
#

Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT ordered, woohoo

#

is anxious to see how hot & loud it runs lol

fallen schooner
#

Release Date: 07/11/2019

#

😦

#

You got the ASRock?

#

oh nm

#

I need to go back to bed

#

lol

dreamy haven
#

sapphire != AsRock lol

#

πŸ˜‰

fallen schooner
#

it was a tough fight in my head

#

on what to get first

dreamy haven
#

I'll probably try to grab a regular 2070 in 2 days when the price drops hit, see which card I like better

#

only concern with the AMD is the reference cooler effectiveness

#

might be loud n hot

#

it'd be nice to keep it a single driver environment though (already have a 2700X w/X470)

fallen schooner
#

yeah

#

going from a 1600 to the 3700x

#

super excited.

dreamy haven
#

noice

#

heck yeah

#

dang all this coffee and heavy spending making me sweat this morning lmao

#

I saw the 3900X and 3600X go up not long after midnight pst, the 3700X was sometime later after I passed out (the x570 mobos too)

#

pretty much saw right when the navi cards hit

#

I was curious if they staggered the releases on the site to avoid order and payment portal congestion, or if they did it just because lol

fallen schooner
#

I thought the release was at 9am PST

#

but you could look at the bundles that were live, and order them that way

dreamy haven
#

nah the first two chips could be ordered alone by around 1 or 2am PST

#

but just those two initially

#

took a few hours for the rest to show

#

and then wasn't til maybe an hour ago that the navi cards went up on site

#

it's only ~7:40am PST atm

#

so idk, guess they just didn't wanna dump all at once lol

#

not really sure what to expect on tuesday for nvidia's release but I'm assuming people will be trying to snatch up the discounted regular cards

#

that's my plan as well lol

#

so probably be hawking the site the same way early tuesday morning hehe

#

try to grab a 3rd party 2070, hopefully a triple fan like the Asus Strix or MSI Duke

#

will depend on pricing I guess

#

some of the supers are showing on site (from xfx or evga...one of those two) but obv not showing pricing yet

#

think it's evga

#

hmm, that's odd...

#

oh nm, misread the redemption exp date lol

topaz hornet
#

Which one is better for Autodesk Maya, AMD 5700 XT or RTX 2060 6GB?

radiant egret
#

does anyone know how much the ryzen 5 3600 price is?

#

wrong section

topaz hornet
#

@radiant egret $199

dreamy haven
#

@topaz hornet the 5700 XT is supposedly equivalent to the 2070

#

the 5700 (non-XT) is supposed to match the 2060

#

so the 5700 XT is going to be better than a 2060, unless you're looking at 2060 Supers

topaz hornet
#

Oh, I forgot about the Super, yeah, that’s the one I would buy

dreamy haven
#

the nvidia supers release on tuesday, btw

topaz hornet
#

But I’m not sure if NVIDIA or AMD is better for Maya

dreamy haven
#

2060 super is about equiv to the 2070

#

ahh I see

lone pond
#

i now wish i hadn't bought an rtx 2060 in march

#

i've also already past my return window

#

unless i sell it then i can buy a super series GPU

#

but that'd be sort of a waste

deep vector
#

Should I pair a RTX 2060 S or a 5700XT with a ryzen 3700X

tawdry tiger
#

2060

#

my opinion

remote forge
#

If you can maybe wait for the AIB and custom coolers for the 5700xt

#

Seems to run loud. Performance looks pretty good.

#

Unless you are water cooling but I don't see any custom water blocks out for it yet.

lone pond
#

definitely 2060 super

remote forge
#

60 part for $399...no thanks

#

It is a great part but not at that price IMO

lone pond
#

lel the 5700xt barely matches the performance of the 2060 super
with a higher tdp
and once OC'd it doesn't really do much and not only that but the thermals go berserk
the power draw of the 5700xt once overclocked is pretty much that of the 2080 ti
lel amd screwed up with navi

remote forge
#

are you referring to the 5700 vs 2060 super?

#

The xt has a garbage cooler and runs hot because of it. Power draw seems to be around the total board power of 225 watts. Which I think is kind of meh...doesn't really matter. Sure Turing has amazing transistors and all of their parts are fantastic but not at those prices.

#

Curious to see more information on them.

half sapphire
#

When installing a new graphics card what should you prep before hand?

#

like any old drivers, etc?

lone pond
#

@half sapphire If you prep any drivers it should be the newest ones.

half sapphire
#

I meant as in remove old drivers

main mauve
#

Can someone please explain the diference between these three cards to me?

sand shell
#

from what I can see they are all exactly the same

main mauve
#

They have different names tho; that's why I'm confused. There must be some difference

sand shell
#

I see the different names but the specs and even the apperearence are exactly the same

main mauve
#

Yea; I'll look more closely at it and report back

sand shell
#

k

main mauve
#

From what I can tell; there's a base version, an advanced version, and an OC version for overclocking

sand shell
#

that is a good observation I agree with you

#

Do you know the difference between a founders edition gpu and a seperate company gpu that uses the same chipset?

fair lotus
#

fe cards are bad

main mauve
#

All i think i know is that the FE cards are built by Nvidia; are more expensive, and likely have worse cooling

sand shell
#

so don't get FE cards basically

#

thank you for the info

west chasm
#

I'm excited to be getting the rx 5700

sand shell
#

oh yeah, rx 5700 or 2060

west chasm
#

Yeah I have my new cpu and mobo ready. Just waiting on the 5700 and then I'll be ready to upgrade

sand shell
#

which is more powerful, the rx 5700 or the rtx 2060

west chasm
#

Depends on which 2060

#

The super will be a tad bit stronger

sand shell
#

the normal 2060

west chasm
#

The normal one is gonna be little weaker

sand shell
#

ok, thank you for the info.

west chasm
#

The only appeal the rtx 2060 is of course ray tracing

sand shell
#

what is the most powerful radeon card on the market right now?

cold stream
#

vega 64 still, right?

remote forge
#

Probably radeon vii

#

but the 5700xt comes very close for less power

#

big navi will come eventually

#

vega 64 isn't too far off

#

5700 xt reference has a bad cooler on it though and runs hot

sand shell
#

in terms of graphics i think nvidia still wins but now i think current gen ryzen beats intel

remote forge
#

I think gamers nexus saw some thermal throttling

#

depends on price I think

#

Overall performance I would agree but it all comes down to price

sand shell
#

true

sweet lotus
#

yeah my guess is amd is going to try to take control of all the low end market, while nvidia moves to most high end things

#

like amd doesnt have a counter for the 2080 for example

cold stream
#

cuz they realize most of us don't crap out golden bars

lone pond
#

@half sapphire Well at least with Nvidia, when installing new drivers there's a "clean install" option in the new driver setup that removes the old drivers.

sweet lotus
#

thats why I like them

remote forge
#

I hate to say it but I think, for all external appearances, that they don't really care much about the PC gaming market anymore.

sweet lotus
#

probably because theres lots of money in laptops and consoles

remote forge
#

Yeah....consoles, licensing to samsung, semi custom, etc.

#

This is the 3rd launch in a row that hasn't gone well for AMD.

#

GPU wise

cold stream
#

I'm feeling like they'll price cut

remote forge
#

Possibly

cold stream
#

Idk I mean if you don't care about ray tracing they seem like perfectly valid options

remote forge
#

I can't wait to see how 5700xt performs with a working driver and a better cooler or a water block

cold stream
#

water block

#

lmao

sweet lotus
#

yep I'm hoping the AIB people make it good

#

cause that blower is sad

remote forge
#

its horrible

#

reminds me of my reference vega 56

sweet lotus
#

even with the reduced heat or whatever from the shrink, its still so bad

remote forge
#

Yeah....

#

If the driver was better it could be undervolted and tuned a bit possibly

#

In the gamers nexus review it was stated that the card would start out boosting to around 2ghz then clock downward when it got warmer

sweet lotus
#

big surprise lol

remote forge
#

it seems to have some real chops

#

oh hahaha right πŸ˜ƒ

sweet lotus
#

all amd gpus need like 4 fans practically

remote forge
#

eh...

#

well....the 5700 seems to be OK heat wise for the most part....still don't like the blower

#

blower is just a cost saving measure

sweet lotus
#

I havent watched the gpu reviews yet.. I got overlaoded with cpus this morning

cold stream
#

I thought they abandoned blowers for a reason

remote forge
#

oh gosh yeah....

vestal sparrow
#

lmao all this talk about blowers being garbage makes me regret getting a msi 1080 aero

remote forge
#

well....

#

there are some use cases where they are good

#

but for the most part they can run loud

west chasm
#

All blowers aren't bad

remote forge
#

and don't cool as well as open coolers

#

Its nice that all of the heat exhausts out of the case

sweet lotus
#

yeah like in mini pc's they make sense

remote forge
#

yeah

sweet lotus
#

so you can have cool air to passive things like your ssd

#

and cpus dont get soaked in heat from gpu then too

remote forge
#

yep

#

VRMs

ruby horizon
#

My friend is wondering if the GT 1030 is still worth it in 2019.

#

I say no, does anyone else agree?

wraith pasture
#

nope

cold stream
#

Absolutely hands down

#

not worth it

ruby horizon
#

I mean, for Minecraft or Roblox.

#

It's okay.

static haven
#

If its free then yes

ruby horizon
#

;-;

#

Obviously it isn't free.

#

But.

static haven
#

It should be okay for those games

ruby horizon
#

I guess, it can barely run any game.

#

Yep.

static haven
#

Just dont blow up bazillion tnts

grand pelican
#

1030 is worth for low spec games

#

fortnite-lol-apex etc

#

But I would instead do a 570... ultimate bduget card

cold stream
#

the problem is like price:performance

dense flicker
#

570'GANF

#

gang*

cold stream
#

like it would make WAY more sense to just save a bit more

grand pelican
#

just sell that thing for 70 bucks

#

and save a bit more for rx 570

#

they're 90-100 right now used

cold stream
#

yeah rx 570, maybe even 580

grand pelican
#

Naw they're still around 150-130

foggy swallow
#

do you guys think the price of used 1080ti's will start to drop to like 400~?

#

bc of navi

ruby horizon
#

Might.

#

How much are they now?

grand pelican
#

400?

#

they're at thay right now

foggy swallow
#

Where?

#

I see them for 500

violet kite
#

I don't think I've ever seen a 1080ti for 400.

foggy swallow
#

@grand pelican should I sell my Vega 64 for 330 now?

valid bane
#

if you see a 1080 ti for 400 ill buy it rn lol

foggy swallow
#

Same

violet kite
#

A 1080ti is somewhat comparable to a 2080.

#

Soooo.

valid bane
#

so basically a 2070 super?

violet kite
#

Yarp.

foggy swallow
#

A 5700xt is somewhat comparable to a 2070 super

violet kite
#

Not really.

#

The 5700XT is comparable to the 2060 super.

valid bane
#

my budget is $2000 for this thing. I can go over budget for misc stuff

violet kite
#

At least in the review benchmarks.

foggy swallow
#

Yeah it is within 5-0% according to hardware unboxed

violet kite
#

That's perfect to include the new 2070 Super, a Ryzen 9, and all the hot hardware.

foggy swallow
#

@valid bane you should wait for the 2080 super

cold stream
#

if you have a lot of money.

#

like

#

a lot

grand pelican
#

@foggy swallow vega 64 is astoundingly good lol why sell it

violet kite
#

In practical gaming benchmarks, the 5700XT really doesn't compare to the 2070 super.

#

The Vega 64 is hot and draws a lot of power. :L

#

I'll buy it tho.

#

200 dollars.

#

Sold.

#

To me.

valid bane
#

Ehhhh I dont want to spend that much. Especially since the main priority wont be gaming. But itll still play a factor

grand pelican
#

Vega 64 is very good

#

replace thermal paste and you done

foggy swallow
#

@grand pelican well if gpu prices gonna drop why not sell it

violet kite
#

Anything before and including the Radeon VII was a desperate attempt to compete with nVidia and should be treated as such.

grand pelican
#

Becauze you can still use it

violet kite
#

The 5700 series is great tho.

#

5900 is gonna be the STUFF.

foggy swallow
#

It’s an aib so I could get 300 for it

#

Yeah I kinda wanna wait for big Navi

valid bane
#

my plan is, 2070 super, Ryzen 3700k, and an Msi b450 gaming pro mobo. look good?

grand pelican
#

gaming pro?

cold stream
#

pretty dang good

grand pelican
#

No

violet kite
#

Yeah, the board is not that great.

grand pelican
#

Pro Carbon MSI is the best B450 mobo

violet kite
#

Upgrade a bit, the mobo means a lot.

#

Especially for the new Ryzen cpus.

grand pelican
#

if you getting 3700X, X470 is what you need

#

Bios updates incoming for overclocking

#

I believe with those patches, Ryzen can finally reach what Lisa Su advertised

violet kite
#

The Ryzen is a bit underdelivered, but with the looks of what's possible software side, we're gonna end up with an amazing chipset.

#

I'm

#

So

#

Pumped

#

Also if you plan on streaming at all? Ryzen 9

#

Is the answer.

#

Off-topic though, the 5700 series seems to be underperforming in practical tests. Which is a big ol' rip.

remote forge
#

Ryzen 7 and ryzen 5 can also stream

violet kite
#

Yeah, but the Ryzen 9 is the ultimate.

remote forge
#

Not to mention off the video card

topaz hornet
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Yeah, it is more efficient to use the GPU for streaming

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Especially the RTX GPUs

remote forge
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Streaming quality video from a software encoder off of obs isn't that impactful to a ryzen5 or better while gaming

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But a ryzen 9 is pretty awesome

topaz hornet
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I want to get the 3900X but I think a 3700X will be better for me

valid bane
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Do you think the 2070 super will sell out?

grand pelican
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no

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it's more efficient to use cpu if yours can multitask like ryzen

topaz hornet
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Maybe but other brands like MSI and Asus will have their own GPUs

granite juniper
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^

grand pelican
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you won't be using, not even 60% of the cpu

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on games

valid bane
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Cause i want to buy everything when the ryzen restocks. Just wanted to make sure it wouldnt be oos

topaz hornet
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I’m really undecided about what CPU to get, I wanted to get a 3700X and an RTX 2070 Super but it turns out that GPU rendering is very bad on Arnold

grand pelican
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3700x

valid bane
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w*f is Arnold? software?

topaz hornet
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It’s the renderer for Autodesk Maya

valid bane
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?

topaz hornet
remote forge
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Just can't get behind RTX pricing. The tech is super fast but pricing is not good. The new 2070 super is the best value of the stack though. Its like a 2080 lite or what the 2070 should have been rather than a rebadged 60 part as in the original 2070.

cold stream
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I can agree with that

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because the rtx launch wasn't a typical launch of "more for less"

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it was "more for MORE"

topaz hornet
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IMO they messed up the naming

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β€œSuper” sounds cheap

cold stream
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they couldn't have been Ti though cuz discontinuing the normal ones

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those cucks

topaz hornet
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And they already have 2080 Ti

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At least it’s really an upgrade, not like the RX 4xx to RX 5xx

grand pelican
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sounds cheap amd super is cheap @ss

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and*

remote forge
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5700xt is neck and neck with 2070 super...with the super card being slightly faster....single digit percentage on average performance overall.....

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5700xt will get faster over time

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And it $100 cheaper

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Its*

mortal verge
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i just got a 2060 the other day and not butt hurt all for the 2060 super.

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at*

ruby horizon
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Where do people see 400 and 500 for the gtx 1080 TI...

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I am finding like 1000...

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Are y’all looking at used?

mortal verge
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where can you find one for that cheap?

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i believe no where.

quartz gull
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Yeah,used. Buying a new 1080ti is ridiculous

grand pelican
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In my country

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i see a lot of 1080-1080ti between 300-450

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mostly 1080 for 400-450

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1080 for 300

whole garden
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used or new?

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@grand pelican

violet kite
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1080ti is what people are looking for, I think people are actually searching just a base 1080.

whole garden
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oof

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there is a phat difference @violet kite

violet kite
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Yup.

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That's where I think people are getting the 400/500 price tag.

whole garden
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probs

grand pelican
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@whole garden used

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@violet kite no, here people selling 1080 at 300 bc they're good and cheap

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here is my boy

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Never overclocked

remote forge
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rx 5700xt power consumption is very close to the RTX 2070 super in games

dense flicker
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moar powerrrrrr

remote forge
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Cooler is not the greatest

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but there are options

dense flicker
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it also outperforms the 2070 im some cases

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just wait for partner cards

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lol

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wait but

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isnt the founders card made by asrock

remote forge
dense flicker
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ah

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that will cool it well

remote forge
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reference models are made by several manufacturers

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current search off newegg

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very tempted

dense flicker
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πŸ‘€πŸ‘€πŸ‘€ yesterday i only saw the asrock one

remote forge
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guess the site must have updated

near lodge
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I'm still undecided on a graphics card atm. Wanted to go amd. πŸ€”

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but performance wise vs the rtx 2080 or 1080ti. πŸ€” also a major price difference to consider.

wraith pasture
fallen schooner
near lodge
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lol

fallen schooner
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rx 5700xt will perform great under water.

near lodge
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what about 2 of them? πŸ€” XD

fallen schooner
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thats just crazy talk

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please do this.

near lodge
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I mean...wheres that "why not both".gif? XD

near lodge
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I appreciate you.

dreamy haven
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no

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AMD, if you hadn't heard, is discontinuing drivers for crossfire

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I would not plan on using dual cards

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lol

remote forge
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5700xt pretty much matches 1080 ti or is just single percentage points slower and should improve in the next month pr two with driver updates.

near lodge
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solid

remote forge
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Not a fan of dual cards for gaming. :)

wraith pasture
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5700XT seems to only run better than nvidia counterparts when in lower resolution.

marble flint
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Im waiting for the asus msi etc cards to come out

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Blower fans🀒

fallen schooner
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I have a blower fan...

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😠

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it's in a box.

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cause I replaced it with full vga water block πŸ˜›

marble flint
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Good choice