graphics-cards

[distant rampart]

Are external gpus worth it?

[vital oriole]

no, they're often not worth the hassle

[olive bobcat]

And the absurd price tag

[forest oasis]

I mean, you probably could find a used egpu enclosure for cheap then throw a GPU in it

[ionic thorn]

hello chat

[olive bobcat]

Has anyone had experience with titan cards?

[forest oasis]

Smh you've been in this server so long and don't know to just ask the question rather than asking if anybody knows

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-the-frog-muppets-meme-smh-shaking-my-head-gif-16984538577250620315

Does the command still exist

?ask

[neat venture]

Don't ask to ask, just ask!

https://dontasktoask.com/

[olive bobcat]

I was just gonna ask what their experience was lmao

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-nerd-yelling-insult-gif-7884166

[forest oasis]

Isn't driver support for it ended?

[olive bobcat]

No idea

[forest oasis]

Looks like just the titan rtx still has support, all the old titans are security support aka nothing

[hot bough]

Interesting, the SF1000 comes with 5 pcie connectors and two CPU connectors so I have enough to actually power both the 9070xt and my 3070 hmmm.

[hot bough]

.

Seems I got lucky, my Corsair 12VHPWR cable doesn't have the issue Jay had where the pins were very uneven and slides.

[olive bobcat]

I was looking at the TITAN RTX
Seems like a great card outside of the price

[forest oasis]

Titan rtx is basically rtx2090

[random walrus]

Yep, xx90 is the replacement to titan

Probably good in the long run to consolidate consumer and "prosumer" into one product line tbh

[olive bobcat]

Yeah
I’d like to get my hands on an RTX Titan if possible

At least once

[random walrus]

Kinda goes for every card lol

[forest oasis]

If we ignored the price of the rtx5090 I'd recommend it to everyone

Frfr

[torn garden]

A 6500xt has to be almost free to be considered good

[forest oasis]

I mean

I wouldn't take one unless I was paid

I'd rather use an igpu

Current gen igpu

Than a 6500xt

Bad when it launched, bad after it launched

Didn't get clowned on as much as the 3050

[round zinc]

Sapphire made an 8gb version that wasn't quite as laughable. Still no encoders and only gen 4x4 but with enough vram that wasn't as crippling.

[hot bough]

Nah, nah. RTX PRO 6000

[forest oasis]

[hot bough]

9070xt Mercury is gonna arrive today!

I want to put it side by side to my 3070 so badly.

I also found some folks selling a 3070 ti for less then what my 3070 is worth in my local market so I am going to sell the 3070 and upgrade to the 3070 ti while earning a profit

[hot bough]

3070 you have served me well.

[hot bough]

The 9070xt Mercury Magnetic Air

Side by side with the petite 3070.

[random walrus]

Heastink alone is as big as the 3070 lmao

I assume you're going to OC that thing to high heaven?

[hot bough]

Absol-freaking-lutely

[random walrus]

Gonna be a monster between the 9070xt's OC potential and that cooler 🔥

[hot bough]

Yup and I am going to get my hands on a 3070 TI for frame gen but also so I have a powerful cuda card when needed

So I expect I should be able to hit 240 fps on Ultra settings using the 3070 ti to for generating 1 frame for every real frame the 9070xt makes

@random walrus DAMN this is the first time my torrent felt tight lmfao

[random walrus]

This only works with LSFG right?

Offloading the generation to second gpu

[hot bough]

Correct

Though a solution is a solution even if it is nank

Jank

[random walrus]

If you're gonna be using cuda I suppose the frame gen potential is just a bonus

Did you see Blender is adding DLSS support for viewport denoising?

It's pretty cool. Doesn't work well with volumetrics and glass though

[hot bough]

Still that's awesome

[cold fox]

dusty

[hot bough]

I will be using this PC for Gaming, a lot of Office Browsing, and a lot lot more 3D design now that I finally have a 3D Printer

[hot bough]

Yup

[olive bobcat]

Nothings ever gonna feel tight in my Stacker 831

[olive bobcat]

I have 24 inches of case to deal with

[hot bough]

Using a SFX PSU in a EATC giant of a case is becoming problematic

I can't wait for the 3D Printer to arrive so I can make my custom case

[random walrus]

Does your motherboard have another pcie slot that you'll be able to fit a riser into?

[hot bough]

Yeah

It has a 4.0x4 (16x long) slot

And the board supports bifurcation on the 5.0x16 slot though I haven't been able to find a 5.0x16 to 8+8 splitter

@random walrus @olive bobcat @quac
@cold fox is it a bad idea to put my PSU on my GPU's metal backplate?

[cold fox]

uh

sounds like it

[random walrus]

If you mean like while the gpu is in the pcie slot, yes

I wouldn't risk the extra weight on the gpu

[hot bough]

I am trying to find some way to fit these damned cables...

Corsair needs to include extensions

[random walrus]

Well it is an sfx PSU lol

[hot bough]

F it the PC is staying on the side till the case is printed

@random walrus @cold fox

[random walrus]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Are you going for a completely 3d printed case? Or do you have some sort of open air bench you're gonna build around?

You may know this already but heads up, ABS can warp at surprisingly low temps

[hot bough]

Fully 3D printed. I am using PCTG and here are the current dimensions.

.

@random walrus
@slow yacht @hot bough

L+W+H in linear mm/inches = 1030mm / 40.551 inches without padding. With six 12.5mm padding panels it is 1105mm / 43.501 inches. The Lian Li A3 is 958mm or 37.717 inches.

Length: 416mm total (7+402+7)

• two 7mm thick panels that will attach or be printed as part of the I-Frame (wave patterns go here)

• 395mm long front and rear chamber

Width: 300mm total (3+125+5+7+5+10+62+80+3)

• two 3mm visual panels for seeing in. They hold no weight hence why it's so thin.

• 125mm deep rear chamber to fit most radiators and provide enough space to fit both a 3 slot (20mm thick per slot) GPU and the PSU on its side while leaving sufficient space for airflow to reach the radiator on top.

• 5mm gap to route cables through on both sides of the I-FRAME. Fitting the cable through the gap requires removing the top or bottom panel first then the panel can be put back on.

• 7mm thick panel that is the MAIN panel of the I Frame, it will have cutouts for cables and mounting for all the hardware.

• 15mm Motherboard Standoffs (shown as +10 in the math to account for how much exposure the back of the board has to airflow). There is space between the I-Frame and the board allowing air to flow through the front and back of the PCB cooling it and reducing voltage droop as a result.

• 62mm gap for the motherboard's IO shield and to have sufficient clearance so the GPU does not bump against the PCB or CPU cooler.

• 80mm clearance and mounting for a 4 slot GPU directly in front next to the motherboard to maximize space usage.

Height: 314mm total (5+25+5+244+5+25+5)

• Two 5mm thick panels for top and bottom of the case, these will hold a few fans and a GPU each with the rear chamber's panel also holding the radiator

• 25mm thick spacing for standard size 120mm fans on the interior of the top and bottom panels.

• 5mm spacing above and below the motherboard between the top and bottom fans to fit cables through.

• 244mm vertical height for a mATX size motherboard.

[ionic thorn]

chat

what’d the difference between a 7900 and a 9070

[cold fox]

9070 is better

[ionic thorn]

what model should i get

heard sapphire burns

[olive bobcat]

Steel legend is solid

[ionic thorn]

is OC worth it or nah

[olive bobcat]

How much

[ionic thorn]

like 849 rn

[olive bobcat]

Hmmmmmm

Maybe

[cold fox]

850

usd?

[olive bobcat]

See what other models compare

[cold fox]

quite literally just get the cheapest model

[cold fox]

yeah no

https://www.microcenter.com/product/701845/asrock-amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-challenger-triple-fan-16gb-gddr6-pcie-50-graphics-card

[round zinc]

The 9070xt sapphire nitro and the asrock taichi use the crappy melty plug. Other sapphire models like pulse or pure are fine. Which one makes the most sense for you depends on how much you care about a nicer cooler/higher power limit/OC and how much you care about price.

[ionic thorn]

i care about my pc not being burnt down and a raw beautiful performance

[hot bough]

@random walrus @cold fox @olive bobcat @rancid bramble so I just got into the pc. Do you think I am I need to use DDU or is doing it through settings enough.

[olive bobcat]

Ddu always

[hot bough]

rip alright

[olive bobcat]

You don’t gotta tag a bunch of people
Just tag one or two

[hot bough]

How do I get into safemode again?

[olive bobcat]

?ddu

[neat venture]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[random walrus]

Swapping from Nvidia and AMD I'd def reccomend ddu

[hot bough]

Alright. Once I get the riser and or the 3070 to how should I go about handling drivers for both cards?

[random walrus]

Honestly idk lol. I assume you can have them both installed but if the 9070xt is the main card I would ddu and install AMD drivers first then deal with Nvidia later

[hot bough]

Gotcha

Doing ddu now

I am gonna nuke the Nvidia, AMD, and any other card/processor driver

[round zinc]

Mercury is the best imo but it's usually pretty expensive.

[hot bough]

Mercury is easily the best and I love it. I just got it.

[ionic thorn]

you post the build yet ?

[hot bough]

Paying Helldivers II right now at around 130 fps. Mix of Ultra and Medium settings at native with Anti Aliasing.

[ionic thorn]

we see the wide monitor bro

[hot bough]

two monitors

soon to be three.

Anyways here I will tkae a video of it

@ionic thorn here is a video

[ionic thorn]

dang it looks good

why you running 1080 tho

[hot bough]

Cause it's what I have right now. Upgrading to a QHD Mini-LED in the near future once I swap out my Nvidia GPU.

Btw the card with +10% power limit can pull up to 400w total board and it hit 590w transient spike.

@ionic thorn

[ionic thorn]

i got a 850w on my pc rn

it’s sitting so alone without a gpu

don’t mind the radiator hose i gotta buy the clips

[hot bough]

I don't mind.

what cpu?

[hot bough]

Holy, I think I got a good one!

I am able to go to -150mv on the gpu before becoming unstable in HD2's loading screens (causes the fps count to spike to insane numbers)

Man this gpu can get a little loud at 3200 RPM

Not screeching though

[hot bough]

Stock with +10% power vs tuned settings below on the XFX 9070xt Magnetic Mercury tested using Marvel Rivals benchmark.

103 vs 111 fps (+7.21% fps) changes made were:

• +10% power
• -150mv
• +300mhz (card clocked to 3,368mhz vs stock 3,100mhz)
• Fast Timings
• +203mhz memory

Trying 2,950mhz(+450 memory).

@ionic thorn the delta between the hotspot and my ambient is genuinely amazing on this card. It's 8c at idle (1100rpm (32% speed)). In the Rivals benchmark it is not exceeding 58c hotspot at around 2000rpm.

[hot bough]

Haven't fine tuned it yet but currently I am getting around an 8% performance boost on the 9070xt by raising power limits, under volting, and raising memory clocks.

Getting around 130fps avg in native FSR4 in 1080P on Ultra in Marvel Rivals.

[ionic thorn]

i got a 7800x3d

[hot bough]

Joi the GPU.

[hot bough]

Did I get a bad PCIE riser? Motherboard keeps struggling to post with VGA light and when I get into windows the screen freezes.

It's a 5.0x16 riser.

[forest oasis]

if it works fine when directly connected to the board, then possibly

[hot bough]

It works fantastic in the board.

[olive bobcat]

Then yeah

[hot bough]

Well dang it

[maiden haven]

whats zotac's gpu hierarchy?

[torn garden]

Except Asus every other brand sadly has very forgettable lineup so hard to remember off the top of my head 😮

[olive bobcat]

Model > brand

Not really much difference

[maiden haven]

o

[round zinc]

Complicated. Sometimes the oc model of a card is just +15-30mhz like normal and sometimes it's a completely different cooler.

[cerulean rover]

easiest to just pull up the chip on TPU's gpu database and cross reference there

[solemn panther]

HM

[ionic thorn]

questions guys

is the 5070 from its twin the 5070 ti a big difference

[cold fox]

yes

12gb vram vs 16gb vram
ti is like 23% better in 1440p

however the TI isnt available for any decent prices rn

better to just go for a 9070/xt either way, that 12gb vram is like not good for how expensive a 5070 is

[ionic thorn]

ye

also what about a 4070ti

or a 4080

4090*

some dude offering me a 4070 ti súper for 750

[cold fox]

nah

thats more than a brand new 9070xt

[ionic thorn]

i figured

si no right

[cold fox]

unless you can find a good deal on one of those older cards

i wouldnt

[cerulean rover]

4070ti super is about equivalent to 9070 non-xt

[ionic thorn]

yeah i was looking at the 40 series i was thinking of getting one

since it’s cheaper than a new gen and it’s likes slightly faster

i’ve seen a 4080 for abt 600

not sure

and the 4070 ti súper 750 and another one at line 600

[cold fox]

4080 goes for about 850+

[ionic thorn]

i asked why 600 he said it has no box

[round zinc]

Well that sounds a lot better than 750 for a 4070ti super that's a bit slower. Same seller?

[ionic thorn]

diff seller probably don’t know what he talking about

[cerulean rover]

Get them to test it on site and benchmark it if you're meeting in person

[ionic thorn]

Thinking of doing that but ima ask for a test before

why do we think

worth the buy or no

[round zinc]

That's not a super right?

[ionic thorn]

just ti

[round zinc]

I'd just get a 5070 instead of a 4070ti.

[ionic thorn]

aesthetics over performance 🤤🤤

[ionic thorn]

ye ima go to mc in a bit

[round zinc]

If you're a furry weeb sure.

[ionic thorn]

ima see if they got anything good

[ionic thorn]

LMAO

chill bro

[cold fox]

nah

9070

12gb vram on a card thats that much is absurd

[round zinc]

A 5070 is a more direct comparison for a 4070ti. I'd probably get a 9070 or 9070xt myself too though.

[ionic thorn]

some people just don’t know any better

[round zinc]

If I had been in time for that $650 9070xt mercury deal I'm pretty sure I would have grabbed one.

[cold fox]

its not a bad deal

but its the same price as a 9070 brand new

[ionic thorn]

why can’t we just get a universal gpu with a good raw performance and a good rt system with amazing cooling

[cold fox]

cause companies need to profit

[cerulean rover]

How are you going to sell it to investors smh

[solemn panther]

https://klipy.com/gifs/credit-card-smacking-credit-card-on-table

[ionic thorn]

he gets it

[ionic thorn]

they would make profit if everyone equally had something they loved

for a yearly subscription

😭💔

[forest oasis]

i'll give them $3 for all 3

i would be the kind of guy to make 50 alternative accounts to pester the people listing their product for $1

when they're most definitely not selling it for $1

[solemn panther]

Overpriced. They're cheating you

[ionic thorn]

he’s selling it for q
1k

this dude so funny

[solemn panther]

Tell them no one is going to pay $1k for a regular looking 5070ti

With or without tax

[ionic thorn]

i said that

ima say

gift me one

for free an i’ll become w fort pro and pay him back

[round zinc]

He's not running an nzxt pc rental service.

[maiden haven]

lowball that guy

[cold fox]

Well

That’s what they are rn

[hot bough]

Me over here sad that import caused me to need to spend $880 for my 9070xt

[karmic fulcrum]

i think newegg has a combo where you get a 5070ti a 750w psu and the new resident evil game for 979

[maiden haven]

only for ventus

and its 1079

🥺

[cold fox]

That’s not a good deal 😭

That’s still like 900$ for the 5070ti

[summer island]

Finally now i have time to get a new pc I've been researching for

@cold fox wsup!!

[cold fox]

hello

[summer island]

Case fans for h6 flow??

[cold fox]

huh

[summer island]

3 top
3 front
3 bottom
1 back

I need 10 in total

[cold fox]

whats your budget and country again

[summer island]

Canada 100-150 for fans

[cold fox]

for everything

[summer island]

1800 excluding gpu and ram
I will use rx 580 for 3-4 months
And a 8gb ddr5 stick from marketplace until prices drop somewhat

9800x3d
B850 tomahawk
Or i dont know if x870 is needed

[cold fox]

a

single 8gb stick?

[summer island]

Will get 2x16 later with gpu

[cold fox]

you can get an entire pc setup for 1800 if you temporarily use that ram

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/xThD4g 7600x + 9070

if you have a lil bit more you can get a 7600x3d

[summer island]

So i want 9070xt prime oc and i will get that later after 3 months

Also can you change psu
Rm 850x

[cold fox]

why

[summer island]

And 1tb nvme

[cold fox]

theres nothing wrong with the psu

why waste money

[summer island]

That looks good

[cold fox]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/G4WYck if you get a 1b youre well below 1800

[summer island]

I have a 1tb hdd and an extra 500gb nvme

WD 750 i guess

[cold fox]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/NrgTw3 actually the 850w version is barely more get that

[summer island]

Everything available in black?

[cold fox]

oh yeah i thought you wanted it in white

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/DzT48Z with a good motherboard

[summer island]

Msi motherboard?

I dont like gigabyte ui

[cold fox]

you cant really afford to be picky with the current market

[summer island]

Brooo

[cold fox]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/pngTw3 if you really really want msi for whatever reason

[summer island]

I thought everything without gpu will be 2000

Damn that’s impressive

Thanks man

I will change case with h6 flow

[cold fox]

h6 flow is overpriced

for 0 reason

[summer island]

Only case that looks good to me 😭😭😭😭

[cold fox]

theres plenty more cases that look similar and wont cost that much

[summer island]

Which

[cold fox]

v100r

[summer island]

At this point you should join best buy geeksquad

[cold fox]

also the sv01

[summer island]

This is $100
H6 is $134

[cold fox]

35$ cheaper and the same

[summer island]

But h6 is $134without fans

[cold fox]

ok...

[summer island]

Anyways thanks man for everything

[cold fox]

the h6 flow (with 0 rgb) is 135$ and comes with 3 fans

the other ones have rgb included and are cheaper with more fans

[summer island]

Yes sv01 looks good to me now

[frozen owl]

I need some input https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-gv-n5090gaming-oc-32gd-geforce-rtx-5090-32gb-graphics-card-triple-fans/p/N82E16814932761?item=N82E16814932761 this or https://www.newegg.com/msi-rtx-5090-32g-suprim-liquid-soc-geforce-rtx-5090-32gb-graphics-card-liquid-cooler/p/N82E16814137916?item=N82E16814137916

im being asked for my input but i think im biased due to the fact i have a kingpin 3090

[cold fox]

3500$ forr a gpu is wild

oh

its 3600/3700 😭

[cold fox]

iirc gigabyte had really bad cards this gen

[proper wave]

this gen??

they've always been below standard from what i remember

[frozen owl]

yeah im not the guy to question but the person im doing this for isnt on discord and refuses to use discord so you cant give him hell sadly XD

[cold fox]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JNrxSHXdes

[cold fox]

100% the suprim liquid

[frozen owl]

hm

[proven crest]

Guys I’m on pcpartpicker and 4000s are more expensive than a 5070 is that just me am I doing something wrong?

[olive bobcat]

Pcpp doesn’t often have the best price options for gpus

They only pull from a few different sites

They’re also not up to date
They will often lag behind hours

[proven crest]

Just to make sure does brand and model matter?

[random walrus]

Cheapest one is usually your best bet. MSI Ventus is really the only one I might avoid

[random walrus]

40 series isn't in production so there aren't really many available new

[cold fox]

id also try to not get a 5070 unless its very low, its not a really great card

[proven crest]

Just asking different sources

[round zinc]

40 series is out of production and has been for a while. Prices on remaining inventory of out of proudction going up to the point it makes absolutely no sense is just something that happens.

[cold fox]

looks like 5070 and 9070 are the same price

and 9070 is just a better card so id get that

[round zinc]

Msi shadow is usually even more cheaply built than ventus.

[cold fox]

9070 does the same or better in ray tracing

[round zinc]

Radeon 7000 vs 40 series nvidia was way ahead in ray tracing. 50 series vs 9000 it's not such a gap anymore. Fsr 4 is a lot better than it used to be too.

[cold fox]

and also better normally

so if theyre the same price its a no brainer

esp considering the 9070 has more vram

not really

just get the cheapest model

[torn garden]

EOL products so that is expected

[proper wave]

did you see the new study showing a blind test between dlss 4.5 fsr4 and native taa

dlss was 1st place in every test

i did a similar test but with native no aa

had my friends take screenshots in the same place in darktide

mine was native no aa, dlss, fsr, native taa

[random walrus]

Need video not ss, temporal methods can fall apart in motion

Or a screenshot while panning the camera I suppose

[proper wave]

ye

darktide has a ton of enemies

i was mainly focusing on them

and the outline visibility

[tight sable]

No way a 5070ti is bottlenecking a 7800x3d THAT bad right?

[rustic pulsar]

what game and resolution?

[tight sable]

I thought they were kinda a sick combo

Wilds 1440p

Worth noting it's oc'ed by a healthy chunk

+350 on core, +2100 on memory

[rustic pulsar]

most games only use 1 - 2 cores so the CPU might actually be the bottleneck

[tight sable]

Core parking is still an issue in newage games?

[rustic pulsar]

no not parking

most games just only use a 1 or 2 CPU cores while the others do the background task

if u are really concerned you could limit gpu or cpu power a bit and see which causes FPS drop

[tight sable]

I was considering bumping my pbo settings up since this cpu runs so cool but when I looked at the percentages I got deterred

Wonder if maybe I should

[random walrus]

Yeah I wouldn't expect this to be all that cpu heavy compared to gpu

The 7800x3d is basically top tier for gaming, I would be surprised to see it hold back a 5070ti in anything other than maybe eSports games

[tight sable]

that is in line with what I'd expect I just didn't think I'd see a 30ish % gap

in util

[round zinc]

~100% gpu utilization is good. 100% cpu utilization is a problem.

[vital oriole]

You can always max any gpu out in any cases as long as you ask it to do something that is intensive enough

Even a 5090 technically "bottlenecks" a 7800x3d with the right circumstances

[inner token]

Any gpu recommendations for Nvidia around 500-700$ Canadian ? New or used

must be 12gb

[hot bough]

<@&525119001324683264> does anyone have experience with PCIe riser cables? Is there signal loss/issues to be weary of when using a very long one. I am debating between 30cm or 50cm 4.0x16.

[hot bough]

3060 TI might be within budget, used. Or possibly a 3080 used.

[forest oasis]

might even be able to get a 3090 used

[inner token]

might just do payments and do a 5070

[forest oasis]

actually nvm lowest price of 3090 i see is over

thought they were lower but ig it went back up

[inner token]

vram LOL

I can do 9 00 plus taxes for a 5070 I can just do payments for overtime

i'll pay 400 upfront either way

as I sold my broken 6950xt

[royal copper]

I do not really but there is potential for signal integrity issues. I would just get the cable that fits the length you need and not too much extra

[hot bough]

Gotcha. Thank you.

[inner token]

Gang

5070 or 9070xt

I heard dlss is better then raw repasterized fps

but Ive only ever been on amd

[forest oasis]

repasterized?

[inner token]

according to google idk LOL

google talks out its ass so I cant rely on it

[forest oasis]

it aint even a real word 💀 on god
where did it even pull that word from lmfao

[inner token]

Lmaooo

[forest oasis]

well, pasturized is a real word, but that refers to killing bacteria in something like milk to make it last longer

which notably has nothing to do with gpus

[inner token]

maybe its new ai

[hot bough]

9070xt has better rasterization (raw performance output) than the 5070.

[inner token]

using milk to power it

but is the 5070 technically better/higher fps with dlss?

[hot bough]

9070xt is equivalent to a 5070 TI without any upscalers/frame gen.

[hot bough]

FSR4 and DLSS give similar performance increases and very similar visual quality.

The only way the 5070 is better is if you use 2x or higher frame gen

[inner token]

I only got about 700-800 canadian dollars to get a new gpu

[hot bough]

Because the 9070xt only supports 1x frame gen

[inner token]

well new to me

not completely new

and needs to be better or the same as my 6950xt

[hot bough]

However note that frame gen gets considerably worse the higher the multiplier.

[inner token]

I had to sell as it was slowly dying and yeah I dont use frame gen anyway cuz of the delay it adds

I play mostly competitive games so rather just highest fps without losing ms

[hot bough]

I use FSR4 Native with Frame Gen in Rivals. Max settings I get around 180-200fps at 1080p. I have a 9070xt Mercury (overclocked to 5080 performance) with my 9950x3D (overclocked to 5.75Ghz on V-Cache cores).

[hot bough]

Then rasterization is what you should be looking for meaning 9070xt.

[inner token]

lmao

google said repasterized hahaha

[hot bough]

I saw

[inner token]

that's why our ram is so expensive

damn milk

[hot bough]

What's your experience with LFG been like?

I keep debating using my 3070 or better as a 2nd GPU for LFG.

[inner token]

I think you got the meaning confused haha

My tag is a Looking for group discord

for arc

[hot bough]

Oh ok

[inner token]

how do u find ur 9070xt

I didn't wanna go back to amd but seems it's my only cheap option

[hot bough]

Mine is a 9070xt Magnetic Mercury model from XFX.

For the 9070xt the best and the worst models is about a 4% performance difference so not huge.

Steel Legend and Asus Prime models are usually the cheapest.

[inner token]

there is a few on ebay all over 800 unfortunately meaning ill be without a gpu for a good bit lmfao

[hot bough]

They sit at the bottom barrel, the top models are Mercury from XFX or Elite from Gigabyte. Nitro+ and Taichi are good but those use 12VHPWR

[inner token]

might buy a local rx480 just to use lmao

[forest oasis]

only if it's dirt cheap

also a 480 might be worse than a modern igpu

[inner token]

ehh not mine LOL

mine isn't even a g model

so it's like 400mb vram

[forest oasis]

which cpu do you have

[inner token]

barely runs siege at 30 fps on 768p

9600x

[forest oasis]

oh

i dont even think there is a g model anymore?

g used to refer to the cpu having an igpu (or apu as amd calls it)

[inner token]

yes

[hot bough]

Only 8000 series has G models on AM5.

[forest oasis]

8000 series was like oem only though afaik

[inner token]

Yeah prebuilts moslty

[hot bough]

You can buy it directly.

[inner token]

bro has it up for 60$ it's the axrx 4 gb model

I'm gonna offer 30 lol

once I get a new gpu I'll take that and throw it in a old optiplex and sell it

[forest oasis]

60 cad?

if they listed it for 60 usd that would be highway robbery ongod

[inner token]

yes

60 cad

[forest oasis]

60 cad is better but still overpriced for that junk lmao

[inner token]

I offered 20 yesterday and he said 50-60 I offered 30 today and he counter offered 40

might try and stick firm on 30 cuz he seems hesitant on his counter offer

[forest oasis]

it might be worth 30 cad, not sure if 40 would be worth it

[inner token]

yeah It's only to get me by till I can afford my card lmfao

[hot bough]

I am selling my GT210 for 8.75 USD today lmao

Managed to actually find a buyer

[inner token]

ebay prices suck and I don't get my refund money from best buy till monday

[forest oasis]

ok that's more than junk, though useful for people wanting to add more displays

but useless as like gpu acceleration goes

[hot bough]

Yeah I pointed out that I used it to display testing and that it can be used for old retro games.

[inner token]

I mean I did sell my 6950xt yesterday with possible vram issues

for 450

Lmaooo wtf

Local market

Bros asking 1k for a used 5070

[little sleet]

i havent had any issues with my 2 riser cables however their both fairly short and ive also never really tested with and without to see how much of a performance lost there is but thus far doesnt seem like theres a problem

[hot bough]

How long are yours?

I am looking at buying a 30cm or 50cm one.

[little sleet]

the cable in the meshilicious case according to internet since i cant find it on their site, is about 14.75cm and the one in my main pc is about 17.5cm

[hot bough]

gotcha

I was going to get that case till I found out that with the add-ons it's technically not within Carry-On standards so I'm designing my own case which is why I've been looking at riser cables.

[little sleet]

believe cooler master has a small case dont they? or is it too small?

[torn garden]

My Vr PC built with a fractal mood case uses a riser cable to connect the gpu although it is short af

[hot bough]

to small for my purposes.

I need at minimum the abillity to fit a 402mm rad, 4 slot 360mm long gpu, matx board, and have space for a pump and ssds later. That's why I went with the custom route

[random walrus]

"need"

lol

[proper wave]

https://tenor.com/view/speech-bubble-speech-mayneznocringe-gif-2829166175250010414

what is he just gonna not fit his AIO

or just strap it to the outside of the case

[random walrus]

The joke is he doesn't need a 400mm rad for his cpu

[proper wave]

it should keep the 9950x3d constantly boosting

which considering he only has a 3070 i assume hes using his CPU alot

[random walrus]

360mm would too, or a combo of smaller rads since it's a custom loop

[random walrus]

He recently got a 9070xt and is gonna run dual GPUs

[proper wave]

i see

regardless it will also be quieter

also sexy number

[round zinc]

I'd assume this is what was meant.

[random walrus]

I see

[round zinc]

420 and a typo makes sense too though.

[cerulean rover]

idk this is usually the part someone manufacturers their own case just to fit their specific needs

[idle bison]

Back once again with the same unresolved issue

Does anyone know what could potentially cause one's GPU to shut off and PC to restart under... Seemingly random circumstances, all tied to gaming?

More details: Some games, sometimes, cause my GPU (XFX RX 6800) to outright shut off and the entire PC to restart. I thought I was just getting full device failure somehow, but I decided after one of these supposed crashes to plug my DP into my motherboard, and sure enough, the PC had restarted, functions as usual (except with the iGPU), and as for the dedicated GPU? In device manager, it's just turned off entirely, and I can reenable it there as well. I guess it just happens that restarting does the same thing

There's no reliable way to trigger this, but lately, my modded Skyrim run has been causing this to happen without fail. I've also had this happen repeatedly with Warzone, but then it stopped. I had a temporary comp ban in Overwatch because of it, but again, it stopped. Anything from a modern game on high graphics to something like Overwatch on low or Shadow of Mordor from 2014 can cause it

It doesn't seem to be tied to heat

[random walrus]

entire PC restarting seems like maybe the gpu is tripping the PSU?

[inner token]

is nvidia better then amd
Im stuck between going back to amd for saving money purposes
or nvidia for potential better fps gains in the future with AI

[round zinc]

Dlss is a bit better than fsr and is more widely supported. Buying anything because of 'future promises' is a terrible idea.

Let alone promises they haven't even made.

[inner token]

I just know dlss will potentially be better in the future

not sure on how long but eventually

[round zinc]

Maybe it'll be the same situation the 20 and 30 series cards are in now, where you can use it but it runs like crap compared to newer architectures. Better than the current state of radeon 6000 and 7000 for fsr4 int 8 support though. Imo if you wait long enough for it to become an issue you are probably due for an upgrade anyway.
Would I rather have a 5070ti than a 9070xt or a 5060ti over a 9060xt? Yeah. How much of a premium is it worth? 🤷‍♂️

[forest oasis]

Short answer: yes, but you'll have to spend alot more for it

Longer answer: depends on what you are doing with the GPUs
Nvidia is far worse than AMD for Linux desktop usage due to drivers

Nvidia should probably be better on AI related tasks, especially on their AI specific accelerators

Nvidia on their consumer line may perform better on some games but more software/games nowadays work very well on and

Dlss has improved and would likely continue improving in the future, but there is 0 guarantee that it would be supported on the GPU you buy now

But that isn't to say that something like FSR won't also improve as time goes on

I'm personally of the opinion that people should generally stick with AMD unless you need a specific Nvidia feature such as CUDA or AI

Alot of Nvidia's marketed features are also just gimmicks (though AMD also markets alot of those)

[random walrus]

^there's also games that heavily prefer AMD

namely modern COD titles

the difference is actually absurd

ok quick rant

[dusky scroll]

Yeah Most Probably PSU

[inner token]

Yo guys should I get a new 5070 for 1000$ or a 4070 ti used for 700$

[hot bough]

Correct. Also, @proper wave @cerulean rover @random walrus the CPU draws 250-280w under full load.

[hot bough]

4070 TI is much better value imo.

[round zinc]

Australian? Looks like you can get a 9070xt for a little under $1000 at pccasegear, I'd probably do that or get a used one like you said.

[inner token]

cad

[round zinc]

Why are you wanting to pay $100 more than you have to for a 5070?

Same sort of answer though, just different stores.

[inner token]

It’s Canadian prices

So 1000$ new that’s including taxes

[round zinc]

Oh, tax included makes sense. Just comes down to how much you value a warranty which is subjective. Performance and features are basically the same and power draw is only a little worse. I'd still lean towards a 9070 or 9070xt over a 5070 if you want to spend that much.

[summer island]

@round zinc check dm

😩

[round zinc]

I don't think you're going to have much luck trying to find cheap ram. And the one you linked was US rather than Canada and not a particularly good deal with a single stick.

[inner token]

3080ti any good

[high zinc]

It is still good enough that it can run games at 1080 or 1440. Though it depends which game you're playing nowadays now since some would be unoptimized on release, it is still a beast of a gpu imo.

If you can get it new, all the more better for warranty purposes

[inner token]

goddd im lost on what to buy with my budget

only got 800 canadian

[proper wave]

just a gpu?

[inner token]

yes

[proper wave]

what are you using the computer for

and what is your cpu

[inner token]

gaming LOL

9600x

[proper wave]

just gaming

or do plan to stream

or use computer to work

or edit videos

like anything in the future

any hobbies you might wanna get into

[inner token]

nosir just gaming

[proper wave]

easy

[inner token]

I prefer nvidia

amd has been headache

[proper wave]

not so easy :3c

https://www.newegg.com/pny-technologies-inc-argb-oc-geforce-rtx-5070-12gb-graphics-card-triple-fans/p/N82E16814985001?Item=N82E16814985001
refurb 5070

for your budget

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4853142

if you want new this is the cheapest new one

it comes with a psu

and a game

sell the psu

[inner token]

that combo isnt on the canadian website

[proper wave]

show me what is

[inner token]

where do I find gpu combos

[proper wave]

there arent any

or very few at least

https://www.newegg.ca/msi-geforce-rtx-5070-12g-ventus-2x-oc-video-card/p/N82E16814137994?Item=N82E16814137994

this is on .ca

a little over budget

new

@inner token why do you hate amd

[inner token]

two gpus so far and both trashy lol and software is buggy asf

[proper wave]

you are on windows 10 or 11

and what are those two gpus

[inner token]

windows 11

6950xt I sold bc I think it had vramissues

[proper wave]

what is your psu?

[inner token]

kept rebooting randomly and freezing up etc

1000 watt

[proper wave]

hmmm

[inner token]

replaced it after I kept having issues lol

[proper wave]

did you check your temps

[inner token]

yes

[proper wave]

it has overheating issues

[inner token]

nosir

all good temps

on both

cpu and gpu

[proper wave]

what was the 1st gpu you had issues with

[inner token]

kept happening even while on netflix

6950xt

[proper wave]

because the 5000 and 6000 series did have issues

9000 is pretty stable

[inner token]

I bought another and dude sold my a faulty card

9070xt was my option but out of budget

[proper wave]

also nvidia has been shitting the bed recently too on drivers

[proper wave]

you cannot even afford the 9070

[inner token]

nosir lol

[proper wave]

it performs better at 1440p than the 5070

[inner token]

my current option if the guy sells me it is a 4070ti for 700

[proper wave]

due to the higher vram

[proper wave]

4070ti is more powerful than the 5070

but does not have access to dlss 4.5

do you care

[inner token]

but he doesnt know if hes gonna sell it yet or not

not really but mostly just going to nvidia for dlss

cuz fsr seems to be just not as good

[proper wave]

then you may care

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTaqPIHRFsU

[inner token]

thats why Im stuck on what gpu to do lmaooo

[proper wave]

intel is out
you dont like amd and fsr

so its easy

buy the 4070ti if he sells it

then the 5070

because though 4.5 is nice

4070ti is faster and more vram

@inner token is it a 12 or 16

they made both

[inner token]

well his 4070ti is 12 gb aswell im pretty sure

he never said tho

[proper wave]

still cheaper

and 12gb is enough for 1440p

i say go for the 4070ti if you know he didnt beat the shit out of it

but 5070 is good

[inner token]

yee cuz amd don't really have any better then my old 6950xt for around my budget am I right or wrong

[proper wave]

9070

you may have to look somewhere other than newegg

but you dont like amd so dont buy it

[inner token]

whats the price on those

[proper wave]

800 cad

[inner token]

could be a option cuz of 16 gb vram

[proper wave]

more like 850

[proper wave]

12 is enough

[inner token]

just need something better then my old card

[proper wave]

16 is if you got 4k

or dont plan on upgrading your gpu for 10 years

latter is me

only reason i upgraded my og 1070ti was for dlss

3060 was about the same power too

[inner token]

well I mean you will laugh

Im only on 1080

currently rocking a temp 480 lmfao

[hot bough]

Check the pins in those cables I recently had some similar issues and found out the pins in the connector got recessed.

[inner token]

its a brand new psu

[hot bough]

Since then even with the new PSU, I have taken to the habit of of pushing the cables in after plugging in.

[inner token]

I replaced my previous one thinking it was bad

[hot bough]

Doesn't matter if it's new. The cable pins usually have minor slack to moderate.

[inner token]

imagine having 64 gb of ram LOL

your sitting on like 1k worth of ram if not more

[hot bough]

Push the connector in the try pushing the pin cable in slightly

[inner token]

yeah I made sure

I even reseated everything over and over

never fixed itself

[hot bough]

6000cl32 Hynix A so around $1,300-1,400 USD in my local market.

[inner token]

pretty certain it was the vram going bad

everything pointed out to something memory related I ran memtest86 and testmem5 and never got any errors

[hot bough]

Did you check the actual pins because I did the same thing.

[inner token]

correct

2 diff motherboards 2 different cpus

[hot bough]

Like by pushing and pulling each individual cable to see if the pin moves

[inner token]

yessir

made sure everything always clicked

[hot bough]

Unfortunate. That solved my 3070's random crashes

[inner token]

wiggle test

[hot bough]

Was due to a loose pin in the cable connector

[inner token]

wish I was that lucky

[hot bough]

So you've now tried different CPUs, boards, and GPUs?

[inner token]

well this gpu I bought is also faulty

having similar issues but not the same

and the guy wont reply so lmao

assuming he knew it was shit

but only paid 40 for it so idrc tbh

[hot bough]

.

Updated my username to reflect changes

[inner token]

xd

[hot bough]

Unfortunate.

If it makes you feel better I can vouch for the 9070xt.

[inner token]

out of my budget sadlyyy

cant afford to pay 1400$ lmfao

[hot bough]

What market?

[inner token]

canadian

[hot bough]

I feel ya. My 9070xt Mercury Magnetic ended up costing me $900 USD due to Mexican Market and being forced to pay with PayPal since I don't have a Mexican bank card.

[inner token]

plus I only use 1080p

so it would be major overkill

[hot bough]

I guess it depends on the objective. I play at 1080.

[inner token]

mostly play shooters so I use a 240hz 1080p and rather not spend hundreds on 1440p monitor

[hot bough]

I don't like Upscalers and I enjoy high graphics with 100fps minimum since below that feels noticably choppy to me.

[hot bough]

Fair fair.

[inner token]

and all amd cards ive had were booty

my fav cards were the rtx 2080 super and 3070 I owned

both were sold when I had a bad habit of switching from console to pc

so if my 4070ti deals fall through Im gonna just buy a new 5070 unless I can find a cheap deal for one on ebay

[olive bobcat]

https://a.co/d/04dGbnf6

$139 USD

[maiden haven]

5070 and 9070 xt on this weeks doorbuster

[inner token]

I gotta check that out

[inner token]

what is usually the percentage for a deal on the door buster sale

[reef bramble]

door busters are our biggest deals typically by far

it's quantity is extremely limited as a result

[inner token]

so how early should I be up to get first dibs

[reef bramble]

it usually disappears within 15 seconds

so....

[inner token]

jesus so I got no chance lol

[reef bramble]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Newegg/comments/1ptghgw/the_bots_are_fast_but_i_am_faster/

[inner token]

Sucks botting is allowed

[reef bramble]

botting isn't allowed and we have counter measures

[inner token]

maybe the gods will be with me

[reef bramble]

🙏

[inner token]

so I can snag a good priced 5070

if not then gonna be stuck with used

what time does it drop

is it at like a certain time

[reef bramble]

9am 2/25/26

[inner token]

so it will be 2:30 pm for me

[reef bramble]

I don't know where you live so, maybe? lol

[inner token]

hahaha

NDT is my timezone

[reef bramble]

i just google'd it

i dunno if that's right or not

but it's just a timezone question

pretty sure that's right

[inner token]

wtf

lmao

[reef bramble]

wild

[inner token]

so which one haha

Ill be up either way

[reef bramble]

I don't know, I'm sorry

[inner token]

all good haha I just cant deal with this rx 480 much longer lol

[reef bramble]

o man

i know that feeling

i'm sure i'll be feeling something similar in 1-2 years

[inner token]

went from a 6950xt to a rx 480

[lilac garnet]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GzPPVW

what gpus do you guys think i should upgrade to? My budget is no more than $300 USD. However aiming towards the $200 - $250 mark.

[proper wave]

for 300 on the dot arc b580
for something cheaper a used 3060ti

about 200-250 on jawa and ebay

3060ti is about the same speed as a 5050

if a bit faster

@lilac garnet there is a refurbished 5060

https://www.newegg.com/pny-technologies-inc-dual-fan-oc-rtx-5060-overclocked-dual-fan-gpu-geforce-rtx-5060-8gb-graphics-card-double-fans/p/N82E16814985021?Item=N82E16814985021

289

[lilac garnet]

It being refurbished makes me worry a little bit though.. certainly havent personally had bad experiences, bad have heard of them

[proper wave]

you have a return window

[olive bobcat]

Still has warranty

[proper wave]

and at your price point you either need to buy used, refurbished, open box

or get something not as powerful

[olive bobcat]

Could get a 6700xt for like $230

[proper wave]

like an b580, 7600, or 5050

[lilac garnet]

Im not smart with GPU's so excuse me, this 5060 would be better than a 3060 or 3070?

[proper wave]

refurbished

[proper wave]

yes, the 3060 actually has more vram

[olive bobcat]

https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-tech-nitro-11306-01-20t-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12gb-graphics-card-triple-fans/p/N82E16814202402T?

[proper wave]

but the speed of the 5060 makes it better

[olive bobcat]

6700xt would be better than 5060

By a bit

[proper wave]

^

[olive bobcat]

And much cheaper

[proper wave]

though for some games AMD is just flat out worse than nvidia

[olive bobcat]

With more vram

[olive bobcat]

Negligible amounts nowadays

[proper wave]

try playing a tide series game

massive frame loss and stutters

[olive bobcat]

Okay, those are an outlier lmao

[proper wave]

its the helldivers 2 engine

arrowhead optomized it a bit for amd

[olive bobcat]

AMD is better in some games, NVIDIA is in others.

There’s gonna be some you lose, some you win

[proper wave]

i have never seen amd beat the equivlent nvidia card in any game

unless the pc is running linux

[lilac garnet]

I've got my eye on the AMD..

[olive bobcat]

But overall, the 6700xt has more vram, more power, it’s cheaper, and it has a lower power draw

[lilac garnet]

certainly gonna be better than my 1660 super

[olive bobcat]

I’d 100% say go the 6700xt over the 5060

It’s very hard to recommend a xx60 series card at all atm

[proper wave]

i agree

but if you are shaky on refurbished the 5060 isnt a bad card

just bad for the price

[olive bobcat]

It’s very bad for price

It needs to come down to 9060xt 8gb level

[proper wave]

also unless the 6700xt got new drivers

doesnt the 5060 still meet it in every game in FPS

and it will have longer support

in 1080 ofc

[lilac garnet]

6700xt looks a bit cleaner too IMO. But thats beside the point

[proper wave]

like yeah

[olive bobcat]

It will have issues with newer games due to vram usage

The 6700xt gets support still

[proper wave]

but amd is notorious for killing support

like didnt just today some handheld get killed off support wise

because amd no longer supported drivers

and its only like 2 years old

[olive bobcat]

That’s a handheld

My 6 year old 5700xt gets support still

[inner token]

My rx480 doesn’t get updates anymore 😦

[proper wave]

@lilac garnet the 5000 and 6000 series is on legacy support

no more optimization updates

[inner token]

Jeez

Make no one wonder my 6950xt sucked lol

[proper wave]

so yes the 5700xt and 6700xt still do get support

they wont be garbage

[proper wave]

pinged wrong person

[olive bobcat]

If he wants newer, then 7700xt then

[proper wave]

but it will not get drivers for the newest games

[olive bobcat]

Or just go with 9060xt
Gets fsr4

[proper wave]

he wants under 300

200-250

[lilac garnet]

Okay with used.

Im really looking at 6700xt

[proper wave]

there is no more game drivers for it though keep in mind

thats the stuff that actually makes the game run on the gpu efficiently

so it may be good for right now

and on par with the 5060

but in newer games it will fall behind

while the 5060 will get support for many years

6700xt came out in 2021

nvidia is still FULLY supporting gpus from 2018

5 years

vs 8+

with newer features

and no refurbished

[olive bobcat]

https://www.newegg.com/nvidia-founders-edition-900-1g143-2515-000-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-8gb-graphics-card/p/N82E16814132097T?

There

Under $300

[lilac garnet]

I do like that

[proper wave]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1274179720111460354/1469420500122865695/twitter_2019595936020984252.gif

[olive bobcat]

It’ll get a little hot

But gets dlss 4.5

[lilac garnet]

though i been seeing some on FB marketplace for a little cheaper... unless fb is not great

[proper wave]

4.5 on 30 series cards give less fps than 4

looks better though

so worth it

[olive bobcat]

Yeah get that 3070ti

[proper wave]

btw @olive bobcat @lilac garnet
im not an AMD hater, but considering intonse here is still rocking the 1650 super 7 years in

i assume hes not gonna upgrade for another 7

[lilac garnet]

Probably not

[proper wave]

so it would be unwise to buy a card that already has game support cut off

[olive bobcat]

It’s okay

[proper wave]

5700xt my beloved

9060xt 16 king of value

[lilac garnet]

founders edition looks beautiful too

[proper wave]

sadly their cooling kinda sucks

[lilac garnet]

[proper wave]

theres a reason we dont use the sexy turbine fans past the 1080ti really

peak gpu design

who mpregged me

[olive bobcat]

I got em both @proper wave

Repeating the 5700xt, wife is using my 9060xt

[proper wave]

5700xt paired with a 2600 or 3600

[olive bobcat]

She got a 3600

[proper wave]

also this is 1440p

@lilac garnet you have a 1080p monitor right

[lilac garnet]

Yes, Gigabyte g2f

[proper wave]

do you know why 1080p vs 1440p vs 4k is important for gpus

[lilac garnet]

Enlighten me!

[proper wave]

ok basically they arent just numbers

p means pixels

more pixels your gpu needs to load

so more stress on the gpu

and it takes some off the cpu

its why when the newest CPUs are tested they are put on 1080p low settings with 5090's

[lilac garnet]

Heard

[proper wave]

also vram requirements go up

like 8gb is starting to become not enough for max settings today

even on 1080p

like the new indiana jones game on high settings wont boot on a 5060ti 8gb

but speed is more important than vram in the end of the day

so if you stick to 1080p, an 8gb card will be fine

plus you only have 6gb now

with your 1650 super

or 4

depending on your version

[hot bough]

Most modern titles on max settings only use 5-7GB of VRAM on max settings in 1080.

[proper wave]

most

[round zinc]

Kind of but indirectly. If your gpu can't do as many fps because the resolution went up that lower frame rate means less work for the cpu.

[proper wave]

hence why i said its starting to

[proper wave]

he didnt know that higher resolution meant lower fps

so i didnt go indepth to exactly why

forgive me

[proper wave]

raytraced slop is beginning to take over

[hot bough]

I wish we could buy memory that can be installed like ram for GPUs.

[proper wave]

nvidia is trying to do that and you dont

[hot bough]

Though that'd mean less profit for the giants unfortunately.

[proper wave]

more

[lilac garnet]

so i should go with that 3070 ti if im just gonna stick to 1080p which is what i plan on doing and not worry about much other than the cooling?

[round zinc]

Socketed vram would also use more power and be slower.

[proper wave]

it leaked that nvidia planned to release the 60 series with 0gb of vram and you would have to buy it yourself

ofc it was a leak

but this was before the memory shortage

and whats stopping them from

just

not adding enough slots

so you have to buy the better model

oopsy give us another 1000

and they'll buy the vram from the big 3

[round zinc]

You were upgrading from a 1660 right? What power supply do you have?

[proper wave]

and sell it to you for a mark up

[proper wave]

its in his list

750 watts

[lilac garnet]

should have more than enough^^

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GzPPVW

[proper wave]

plenty

[hot bough]

Fair. I still wish I could increase my vram capacity for 3D work though.

[olive bobcat]

I’d go with the 3070ti

My personal opinion

[proper wave]

you can if you know a good technician

its very redneck engineering but people do it all the time in china

my friend in germany knows a place that does it

[hot bough]

I've heard of people soldering higher capacity memory but never seen anyone actually do it.

[proper wave]

gamers nexus did a tour of the guy who made the 96gb 5090s

he showed the process

has about a 95% success rate

[hot bough]

What causes the 5% failure rate?

[proper wave]

cant remember off the top of my head, but i think the guy said the boards dont accept the parts

as i think they swap the board itself for a 3090ti board

and put the 5090 parts in it

[hot bough]

Huh

[proper wave]

and higher capacity memory chips

its a full surgery

[round zinc]

It would need to be something with a clamshell memory design. I would have expected a custom pcb.

[proper wave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcRGBeOENLg

[round zinc]

3090/3090ti were clamshelled with 24 memory chips but would that gpu pad be the same?

[proper wave]

48gb mb

im just remembering off of memory

i could be wrong

also @lilac garnet sorry for getting off topic -w-

[lilac garnet]

all good! more help the happier i am. I just want this upgrade mannn

[proper wave]

listen

can you save like

150 more dollars

[lilac garnet]

im listening

[proper wave]

3070ti is great

but for 430-450 you can buy a brand new 9060xt 16gb

400 for a refurbished one

[hot bough]

Worth checking the local used market as well.

[round zinc]

48gb would be a doubling on 4090 yeah. For a 5090 at 96 they'd have to use 3gb chips and clamshell and it's def not a recycled board unless they got it from a pro 6000 or something.

[proper wave]

faster, enough vram for 1440p, FSR4

you could even upgrade your monitor if you keep saving

and sell your old monitor

[hot bough]

I feel a recycled pro 6000 board would cost more then the vram lmao

Not to mention paying the guy to do it

[proper wave]

its china

he admits in the video he pays his workers almost nothing

its why hes able to do it

[round zinc]

They probably just pay the pcb factory in reality. I was just meaning it's def not a 3090 board for that.

[hot bough]

I am from China. I lived next to the computer mall and services weren't cheap. So he'd have to of gotten very lucky to find people with enough know how and skills to do it for cheap.

[hot bough]

Fair and much more likely.

[lilac garnet]

I mean, im tempted, but i feel like 3070 will be a good enough upgrade.. I mainly play Sea of Thieves, and GTA (fivem specifically), others here and there

[proper wave]

the 3070ti will become outdated or low fps by the time of GTA 6

the 9060xt will be perfect for GTA6 (most likely)

3070ti will still be playable ofc

[hot bough]

If it makes you feel better, here is my thoughts and experiences. We all want the bigger better card, but what do you actually need and what do you want from the upgrade then get what you can based on your budget rather then over stretching yourself. Selling your used parts on facebook is a good way to recoup some cost to put towards the budget.

[proper wave]

@lilac garnet but its been 7 years, 84 months

can you wait just 4-5 more

to save just a tiny bit more

[round zinc]

You might be able to find a 3080 for 300 but if you want more than 8 gb and don't want a 6700xt you're not really going to have any better options without spending more. And 8gb is still fine for 1080, might be on high or even medium in a few games instead of ultra but that's not the end of the world.

[proper wave]

5 months, thats 30 dollars a month

2 cases of beer

3070ti is your best bet rn

and is a fine card

but for just a bit more saving

[round zinc]

If you're nervous about used stuff Zotac store restocks some good refurb and open box deals with a factory warranty pretty often.

[proper wave]

you can get a much better investment

[hot bough]

I usually see 3080s go for around this and sometimes you can haggle for less. Also with 3080s having 10gb of VRAM, it shouldn't be an issue at 1080p for a while.

[proper wave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NBijfu89eg

[lilac garnet]

I do like that...

[proper wave]

on 1080p they are about the same with the 9060xt being a bit better in 1440p

3070ti better at raytracing

9060xt having better performance with FSR4

3070ti DLSS 4.5 looks better but runs worse

[lilac garnet]

holy numbers

[proper wave]

its just their names

green better at raytracing (fancy light)

[lilac garnet]

i wish i understood this kind of stuff more

[proper wave]

red better at upscaling (basically instead of loading 1080p, it does 720p or lower and uses an AI and noise data to guess what pixels are missing)

green's upscaling looks better but slower

red and green equal at 1080p

red better than green at 1400p

[proper wave]

for upscaling

nvidia (green) is DLSS

amd (red) is FSR

DLSS is on version 4.5 currently

FSR is version 4

[proper wave]

so right now they are about equal

but if we wanna buy for the future

the 9060xt is gonna be ahead

if you just want a gpu RIGHT NOW you gotta have it, fiending like a crackhead

then sure 3070ti

amazing card

[olive bobcat]

I have a 9060xt 16gb

Flawless card