graphics-cards

[cerulean rover]

Yes

[hidden pawn]

Gotcha

Hopefully accessing the power supply isn’t a pain in the ass

It’s as easy as just unscrewing and sliding a panel out right?

i have the 3500x case

[cerulean rover]

Uhh it's just the reverse of how you put it in

[hidden pawn]

Pause but

Sounds good, my friend was the one who built it but I should be able to figure it out

[cerulean rover]

Check your case manual

Corsair is terrible with manuals but you can usually find it if you look hard enough

[modest shuttle]

damn got excited best buy got something but its the white swift for $750

i think if both swift models were $750 everywhere it would be more feasible, but since there's still $599 versions out there it's a bit silly

there was an asus 5070ti on amazon for 1k but F that 😄

[modest shuttle]

now its on best buy for 1k

[livid idol]

Lmao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4w_aObRzCc

GN always hits with their jokes

[livid idol]

We've come full circle. You used to need a separate accelerator card for physx before they adapted it to run in cuda, and now that they removed it from cuda we're back to needing an accelerator card

Finally a good use for all those unusable 1060 3GB cards

[sleek willow]

lol....I have a 1060 3gb card sitting in a intel i7-4790K that is just a spare pc currently. Spare parts from my last upgrade.

[livid idol]

Well if you play any of the Batman Arkham games or anything else that relies on old physx versions it can be used to make those games playable on a new 50 series GPU

[livid idol]

Yep. The 15 year old game grades the 5080 at a D.

[odd siren]

AHAHAHAHAHA

"Buy an accelerator card to run games on 50 series!"

[livid idol]

5080 with CPU physx is worse than the 580 on CPU physx

[odd siren]

"Or pick no physX and miss half the game at 414 fps!"

[junior locust]

the fact that the PhysX off performance average is so much better than the accelerator card one is pretty telling

Also if someone has a still working PhysX accelerator card from way back in the day, they goated now?

[livid idol]

The dedicated physx cards? No they're ancient even by physx standards

A 750 ti would be a great addition for this though

[raven wharf]

what is physx

[livid idol]

It was Nvidia's way of forcing people to buy their GPUs by making sure the best tech only ran on their hardware, and disabling that tech to use a competitor's GPU would make things disappear from the game entirely

On a technical level, it was their way of processing what they called "physical effects" which you might understand by the usual name "physics"

[odd siren]

Fal help

[livid idol]

Using PhysX you could make effects more realistic and interactive with the environment

[odd siren]

I am having a crysis

[livid idol]

Is it a remastered crysis, or the third crysis

[odd siren]

As in I can't work out how much CPU I need to spend to make this 9070XT work in my rigs

[odd siren]

Considering how many times I've thought about it, third

[livid idol]

Ok so at least it's not meliting your brain system like the first 2

[odd siren]

Looking up 3dmark results tells me I can make a clocked to hell 5900X run an XTX or 9070XT

With minimal loss

But also in my own terms I know this to be dumb

Because I've seen a 5600X throttle a 6900XT

I can't work out if I'm skill issuing or not

[livid idol]

If you want to be on the safe side I would say 5700X3D or 7600 should be capable

[odd siren]

Right?

I am thinking 7500F

[livid idol]

The 7600 without the igpu yep

[odd siren]

But it's like twice the price vs just trying to clock it to hell

[livid idol]

Wanna buy my 5800X? It's a golden sample! ||that doesn't run anymore||

[odd siren]

I can make it work for 200USD just changing case, or I can make it definitely work for 400USD

Maybe ralic has a dummy thicc AM4 chip

Or some dummy AM5

Damn none

[livid idol]

So you have the 5900X already?

Am I getting that part correct

[odd siren]

Yeah

If I push forward with that I can make it work for 200usd

[livid idol]

Well you can run a test pretty easily, see how high you can lock the frequency on each CCD

[odd siren]

Ya but the thing is

I commit one road or the other road

It's a one way trip

I either pick a D41

Or I pick a North

[livid idol]

You have mobo and ram too?

[odd siren]

Ofc

[livid idol]

You don't need a complete system to run this test

[odd siren]

Maybe

Maybe I pick just north

But I put north instead of loop at first

[livid idol]

Test it first at least

If you can't lock all core freq to at least the max boost clock then it's not worth it

[odd siren]

Oh I alr know what it can do

Hmmm

[livid idol]

I can tell you for sure that my 3080 ti (and 3090 fwiw) ran perfectly fine on a PBO'd 5800X

[odd siren]

The problem is changing everything around

Ya but that's the 8 core

That's a huge difference lol

And also 21K vs 30K

The GPUs are leagues apart

[livid idol]

So you crank up the detail settings a bit

People have coped with way worse

[odd siren]

You know what

You make a fair point

It's only looking like a small loss at most

Maybe 5%? With OC done properly

Actually that's exactly why you're here @livid idol

You keep my stupidity in check

300

300USD to stop losing 5%

No that's AUD duh

200USD

Still redundant

[livid idol]

Chasing those single digit gains is not worth that lol

[odd siren]

Yeah

I'm overthinking it to hell

Ok guess I can be a cheap boi then

[livid idol]

Not unless you're doing something competitive

Which I know you don't

[odd siren]

Mmmmmm

And in the process I can finally fix the bit that annoys me with the XTX loop

Yea

Sounds like a better plan

Thanks Fal

[modest shuttle]

where gpus 😦

[modest shuttle]

anyone know if that light on the hellhound can be changed from blue?

[craggy pier]

i think its between purple and blue? at least it is for the gre

[random walrus]

If it can do blue & purple it can do red

[odd siren]

If you desolder blue does it become a red devil

[craggy pier]

https://www.powercolor.com/product-detail185.htm

not how that works lol

i never said it was argb

im pretty sure its not red and blue LEDs at least

if it is and they dont give the option for red thats a major L

[random walrus]

I mean even if it's a static "purple led" I'm pretty sure it would be red + blue inside

[craggy pier]

i mean i know purple LEDs exist

im curious now

[odd siren]

They would just have blue and red

Run both

The diodes for red and blue are integral to purple led

So you desolder blue it will turn red

Question is tho

[craggy pier]

logical

[odd siren]

Is it red devil or red hellhound

[craggy pier]

"Ice blue shows coolness and elegance while amethyst represents mystery and charm." on their website

half expecting to be asked if im a capricorn

[odd siren]

Damn I was gonna say "I'd still swipe left" but that was better

[craggy pier]

idk my red devil is orange lol

[odd siren]

Orange needs red green and blue

Green devil when

[craggy pier]

i can have a white devil

although that's a villainous proposal

[odd siren]

Overvolt green and blue

[craggy pier]

black devil

just turn off my rgb

[odd siren]

Undervolt all

Dammit

Lol

[craggy pier]

i would love to redo my system w/o rgb

or at least more tasteful rgb

doing a noctua coloured theme for my pc without noctua fans, that's where it'd be at

[odd siren]

I have been off the flashy rgb for a couple years now and I'm still enjoying myself

[craggy pier]

ive had rgb for less than a year and im already done with it

it aint even flashy

just like, 3 fans my cooler fan and my gre

people who get rgb ram scare me

i would really enjoy a wood frame ITX

or

hear me out

https://a.co/d/iwL694h

[odd siren]

I wanted a tower 300 once

Short lived moment

Once you realise just how enormous those things are the fun kinda wears off lol

[craggy pier]

fair, i dont want an obelisk in my bedroom

if i wanted that i'd join a cult or a religion

[odd siren]

The temple of Osiris

[craggy pier]

i had a friend who did blood sacrifices in her bedroom

she also put me at knifepoint one time

💀

[odd siren]

This is one way to write a movie I tell you what

[craggy pier]

god i feel that way after i subjected myself to an hour of vrchat after 5 years

it's a cesspool

[odd siren]

Anime

[craggy pier]

like one sec theres the lorax talking about the housing market and then another moment some random dude is yelling "I PISSED PRETZELS"

and plenty of stuff i couldnt even begin to describe here lmao

i feel bad for people who use that as their social interactions, its pretty sad honestly how addicted people get to it

like i swear most people on there have disassociative disorders or something

i asked a guy what's the longest youve been on vrchat straight and they said "5 days, I brought food and some water bottles up to my bedroom and even walked down to the bathroom with it on"

[odd siren]

TMI

[craggy pier]

😭

[modest shuttle]

yeah according to what i can find its only blue or purple

[random walrus]

Blue or purple but not red lmao

[modest shuttle]

that probably removes the hellhound from my tracking list

no scenario where i do blue or purple

at this rate I shouldve just kept the $750 swift or $850 magnetic air

[craggy pier]

gotta buy the dlc for red

[cerulean rover]

The hellhound is either blue or off

I'd just turn it off lol

[modest shuttle]

weird i read it could be purple also but maybe that was wrong, either way its a pass for me

almost entirely down to either an xfx or sapphire card now

i have to assume the light on the red devil cant be changed either

a gigabyte card hit amazon for $970

these prices are a joke

[cerulean rover]

Showcasing a cool and elegant aesthetic, the icy blue LED lighting sets a high-class tone. Gamers can easily switch between modes using the dual-stage switch, letting the Hellhound dominate your gaming world and deliver a unique visual feast.
The switch is just on or off lol

[modest shuttle]

bummer

only having like 3 cards i want makes getting on even harder

[cerulean rover]

I'd loosen your requirements lol

if you want rgb you can always get more out of case fan rgb/argb

[modest shuttle]

im not going to spend this amount of money and settle for something less

[cerulean rover]

I wouldn't compromise on performance, but I'd be more than willing to compromise on aesthetics for stock and pricing

if you can get something that looks good, great, if not, it'll all perform within margin of error

[modest shuttle]

i dont even know how to value the performance at this point. all i have to go off is boost clock speeds, im too lazy to watch 30 videos and compare each card. i need a chart comparing performance of all cards in the series

[random walrus]

They're very close, the ones with a higher TDP will be a bit faster

[cerulean rover]

for 9070xts? you can reasonably assume it's all within margin of error

[modest shuttle]

TDP? faster in which way?

[random walrus]

Max power draw basically

[modest shuttle]

oh yeah, so cards with 3x8 instead of the 2x8

[cerulean rover]

TPU tested nitro+ and mercury, the difference was 0.5 fps on average lol

[random walrus]

Huh

[cerulean rover]

No, the power limit on specific cards are higher, independent of the cables used

[random walrus]

Maybe they have more OC headroom?

[modest shuttle]

the 3 main cards i am watching now are the pulse, pure and swift

but if i see a magnetic air im probably grabbing it

[cerulean rover]

funnily enough pure has a slightly higher power limit than the other two, pulse/swift pl reported as 304w, pure reported as 317w lol

anyways this is still just within margin of error, I would not really put it into consideration

I would consider them effectively the same performance wise

[modest shuttle]

theyre definitely all the same levels of obtainability 😄

although i could overpay for a bundle technically

[keen flax]

Damn that's a heavy card lol

Does DDU also delete Nvidia control panel and GeForce experience?

[livid idol]

Yes

And physx

Unless you tell it not to

[craggy pier]

Yee

[keen flax]

Thanks

[keen flax]

I mean it's not like I can use it with the AMD card right?

[livid idol]

You can... But it'll run on the CPU at about 10 fps

[keen flax]

Lmao

[keen flax]

Just got home with the card, do I run DDU on safemode before taking out the 3070, wait for it to restart and turn it off so I can download the new drivers?

Or do I do all that after putting in the new card

[sleek willow]

Someone shared this link previously....

https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

It doesn't state if you should have the new card installed yet or not though

[keen flax]

Yeah I'm sorry I saw it, but do I do that before or after

[keen flax]

Exactly haha

[sleek willow]

I assume before you swap

Then shut down, swap, and install new drivers once you boot

[cerulean rover]

DDU has the uninstall and shut down option for installing a new card, uninstall and restart with the old card has a chance of windows trying to auto install old drivers again

With the old card installed, safe mode and uninstall and shutdown

Once it's done, remove old card and then install new card and then boot

[keen flax]

Thanks!

So after I do that all I have to to is install AMD drivers and software and I'm done right?

[livid idol]

Yep

[keen flax]

it is done!

[modest shuttle]

lovely

Wegg raised the price of the white swift by $150

virtually impossible to get a card under $700 now

never should've cancelled my magnetic air

[keen flax]

Oh wow

I'm very happy with my performance so far! I'll keep testing and playing when I get home tonight as I had to leave soon after I finished installing it.

But so far so good

[modest shuttle]

so annoying, i had a swift at $750 on amazon but wanted to try for the $599 ones

best buy the only place left with it at $599. I believe this and the Gigabyte from BestBuy/Newegg are the only $599 cards left online

[keen flax]

This card is so big lol

[cerulean rover]

$600 is the paper MSRP, wouldn't be very confident in that price

[keen flax]

It's very close to the rad

[cerulean rover]

AMD says they're going to restock at that price but don't count on it

[modest shuttle]

I never was, but because it was there I had to try

and all the people saying 'anything over $700 aint worth it' means I either 'overpay' or wait for the 6X series/whatever comes after 9070's

[cerulean rover]

I needed to take my top panel off the case in order to fit my 9070xt lmao

[cerulean rover]

It's what should be happening, we all want this to be MSRP, but reality can be quite dissapointing

[modest shuttle]

maybe ill just buy one of the $1k 5070ti's on best buy 😄

[cerulean rover]

I'm very disappointed in everything happening with 50 series lol

every single card can have missing rops

[sleek willow]

My regret is not buying a 4090 last fall/winter when it was still viable

Or even an XTX I guess cause there were fairly good deals for a while

[keen flax]

Oh lmao I did have to remove the radiator cpu block to be able to place the GPU in

[sleek willow]

Something I learned was never to rely on unreleased products lol

[keen flax]

I ordered some thermal paste to repaste it since I had to take the block out

Mx6 is good right? I should've asked that before ordering haha

[sleek willow]

Asus has a 4080 Super for 1,099 listed on their website currently says in stock

I lied it just changed

[cerulean rover]

Slightly snug fit lol

Yea mx-6 is good

[cerulean rover]

there has been occasional good refurb/b-stock/equivalent deals on 30xx and 40xx popping in and out recently

[sleek willow]

Where are the refurbs listed usually? anywhere in particular

[cerulean rover]

each brand's specific webstore

been a good few zotac ones iirc

[modest shuttle]

if only asus wasnt so notoriously bad rip

[cerulean rover]

There was a zotac refurb 3090 a few days ago

sometimes refurb on wegg too

[keen flax]

Now that's snug haha

[keen flax]

Alright thanks

[cerulean rover]

327mm card with 335mm clearance lol

[sleek willow]

I have a case that's 10 years old and built like an old lincoln continental (probably weighs the same too), so there will be plenty of room

[keen flax]

Here's the 3070 XC3 ultra next to the 9070xt pulse

It's a chonker of a card

[modest shuttle]

evga rip, greatest of all time to never be replaced

[keen flax]

Excuse the dust lol

[keen flax]

Fr

That pulse runs a bit hotter than the XC3

Even on idle

[modest shuttle]

Will be sad to get rid of my 3080 when the time comes

[keen flax]

Which 3080 ver do you have?

[modest shuttle]

ftw3

[keen flax]

Nicee

I was looking for a ftw3 3070 back when I got mine but they were impossible to find lol

So I snapped that XC3 at MSRP in stock at Newegg on one of those random drops

[modest shuttle]

paid like $830 on 3X launch for it

[keen flax]

I paid like 570 or something like that

Don't remember well

[keen flax]

Damn

Now if I could just find a cheap 5700x3d lmao

[modest shuttle]

820 actually

[keen flax]

Is $240 really worth it for one?

[keen flax]

Amazing price for an amazing card

[random walrus]

At that price point it might be better to sell the am4 mobo+cpu+ram and go for a 7500F instead

[keen flax]

True

How much would be fair for this (cpu/Mobo/ram) set?
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Dark_Polito_10/saved/wXn6D3

$200?

Or is that too much

[random walrus]

Off the top of my head, cpu $75, mobo $75 or a bit more, ram $30? Idk tho haven't checked used am4 in a while

You can go to ebay and look at sold listings to get a pretty good idea of what things are going for

[modest shuttle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFNWfkcTixs

[keen flax]

Alright thanks!

[keen flax]

I might upgrade my monitor first though lol

Wanna get a 240hz OLED 1440p later on the year

[modest shuttle]

whats the main benefit of 240hz versus 144

[random walrus]

Smoother motion, decreased latency

I think most oleds are 240hz anyways

[modest shuttle]

im still on a fairly old 144 1440 monitor

but i hate monitor shopping pretty much all have mid reviews, there's rarely a clear standout that isnt 24k

[keen flax]

True

I spent like a whole month or two for my current one

[keen flax]

And same

[modest shuttle]

i had a few recommended to me in the monitors channel a few days ago and theyre all at like 3-3.5 stars

that doesnt encourage confidence for $~500

[keen flax]

Yep

I'm thinking of staying with LG

My current monitor and OLED tv are both LG

[modest shuttle]

mine is an acer

i want a new TV as well but its the same problem

[keen flax]

For TVs just get a C4 in whatever size you want haha

And a Chromecast/Apple TV

[dusk nexus]

Ok I’m about to ask a really dumb question… for power supply cables am I going crazy trying to plug the wrong end into the psu?

One end has a sold 8 pin the other SAYS pcie and is a 6+2

[cerulean rover]

Solid goes into PSU, 6+2 for GPU

[dusk nexus]

yea im an idiot.. reversed them when i took the cables out of the old build smh.. shouldnt have done this aftera work day lol

when going from NVDA to AMD what is the best way to do drivers? can i download amd first and then remove NVDA?

?ddu

[neat venture]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[weary glade]

the new 9070xt kicks straight ass

[keen flax]

What i did was go in safemode, ddu in safemode and shut down

replace gpu

install amd software/drivers

and restart

That's it

[keen flax]

fr haha

https://www.amd.com/en/products/software/adrenalin.html

this'll download everything for you

[weary glade]

It’s crazy how big of an upgrade it is from the Vega 64

[keen flax]

yup they've come a long way

[livid idol]

64 compute units then vs now

[cerulean rover]

Oh hey there's a MSRP 9070 on shuffle tomorrow

[weary glade]

tf that mean

[cerulean rover]

Wait no it's $600 lmao

Thought I saw $550, it was $550 for the 5070 lmao

https://www.newegg.com/product-shuffle

[rancid bramble]

Chat am I sigma

[craggy pier]

I want to pull my eyes out

Not for the product but for the words regarding it

Also hope you have a good cpu

[rancid bramble]

lol

Gunnir photon sounds cool

[rancid bramble]

Going with the all Intel build, i5-13400f

[keen nacelle]

Is that 400 usd

For the gpu

If so that's insanely overpriced

You can find 2080 tis under $300

[rancid bramble]

yes lol

[keen nacelle]

Thats disgusting

3080 pricing

[versed kestrel]

$778 for Asus Prime 9070xt vs $972 for Gigabyte Eagle 5070ti

what you going with?

[keen nacelle]

9070xt 100%

[modest shuttle]

i almost got a 5070ti yesterday for $850, but was too slow

[keen nacelle]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/126933488075?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=I8ORr0BxSt6&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Better gpu $100 cheaper

[modest shuttle]

Damn, the shuffle has no 9070's i want lol

[sleek willow]

Just do it.....and click the 5090 too lol 😆 worst case you get chosen

[modest shuttle]

i dont want a gigabyte card

the asus 5070ti at $750 is intriguing though

but its asus

[sleek willow]

My current rig has a Gigabyte 3070. I've had no issues with it

[modest shuttle]

but i keep reading ALL 5X cards can be missing ROPs

that MSI 5070 is pretty, but not sure if it's $920 pretty

[sleek willow]

yea i'm not paying $900 for that level. I don't think the 5080 price is worth it either

[modest shuttle]

$1500 is definitely a steep ask

[sleek willow]

For sure

[modest shuttle]

do you think the asus 5070 at $750 is worth it?

[keen nacelle]

If its ti sure

Regular hell nah

[modest shuttle]

it is yeah

[keen nacelle]

750 isn't too bad

[modest shuttle]

5090 is $3k

[sleek willow]

I think both cards around $750 on that list are worth trying

[modest shuttle]

i dont have any direct experience with gigabyte, just seen a lot of comments against it here, reddit and other discords since the 9070 launched, but have nothing to truly base it on

[sleek willow]

The only experience I have is with my 3070 right now for the last few years and I haven't had any issues

[keen nacelle]

Gigabyte had cracking pcb issues a gen or two ago I think

Id imagine it's been dealt with

[sleek willow]

I guess I also have a gigabyte 1060 3gb in my old tower that is the spare workstation and it has been running for years as well

It's like anything though. Defects can happen with all brands of electrical and mechanical devices

I hope you get something though. I've seen the disappointment after cancelling lol

[modest shuttle]

For sure, its my least favorite part of building PC's. It's exhausting reading reviews and seeing that basically anything you buy can be a nightmare.

One aspect of that is I've heard the Gigabyte support can be quite poor and deny RMA's for trivial reasons. But again, that's just what some disgruntled person posted on the internet.

[sleek willow]

There will always be the disgruntled person in every brand I think

[modest shuttle]

yep, outside of CPUs and maybe memory, every component's brands has at least one person with problems

CPUs and memory have problems too, but theyre not as prevalent as other components

analyzing 50 different motherboards, gpus, psus, etc is exhausting

[sleek willow]

Motherboards are a rabbit hole lol

[keen nacelle]

98% of people don't need to spend more than $150-180 on a mobo

[sleek willow]

Agreed

[modest shuttle]

There's still issue inside of that price range though right? Or lots of options to choose from and research, all of which have pros and cons?

[modest shuttle]

I wonder why they keep putting up the combos and taking them down

[left quiver]

Is anyone else having troubles with new adrenaline drivers update?

[keen nacelle]

@rancid bramble
https://www.ebay.com/itm/126993545890?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=I8ORr0BxSt6&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

$237 b580

[rancid bramble]

cool one small issue I already bought

also i wanted to get something new

[keen nacelle]

You can cancel any order

Its your money just $400 for a b580 is disgusting

[rancid bramble]

by the time I successfully get a refund that thingll sell

I’m good

however I can show this listing to a friend or two

[rancid bramble]

what’s wrong with asus

their customer service is great

[dusk nexus]

Sorry didn’t see this. That’s how I did it and it fixed all the flickering

Is there a good free benchmark tool I can use to test stability of an OC?

[cerulean rover]

Not great lol, a good amount of reporting that Asus denies warranty claims for minor scratches and blemishes

[modest shuttle]

not sure if this is facetious or not, but you dont have to go far online to find endless stories of their support being arguably the worst in all of PC components

[cerulean rover]

https://youtu.be/7pMrssIrKcY

[modest shuttle]

not to mention all the negative things the big tech reviewers have to say ^

[keen flax]

Yup that's the way

[cerulean rover]

Lots of tools for different things, OCCT has a good spread

[dusk nexus]

Awesome thank you!

[rancid bramble]

welp my experiences were great

i bought a broken z690e from eBay and it’s warranty was still active so i rma’ed it and they fixed it free of charge (i paid for shipping) and after it was done i had a fully working z690e for a great price

[livid idol]

Nice score.
They did make an effort to change their internal policies after all the negative media coverage. They even went so far as to contact people that had claims denied previously.
You still hear about occasional issues from them but not much more than competitors.

[modest shuttle]

well if i manage to get that shuffle here in a bit guess we will see 😄

[woven moon]

7900xtx is out and 9070xt is now in the pc.

[keen nacelle]

Interesting

[modest shuttle]

rip

[solemn panther]

Not this time, not never

[modest shuttle]

big frank says more stock soon.....ill just huff my copium

[covert parrot]

the results out? I didnt get an email for it yet

[livid idol]

If you didn't get the rejection email yet then you're likely on a "second chance" list, and if enough people don't buy it in time you might get a shot at it

[covert parrot]

just saw it didnt get selected 😔

getting a gpu is so difficult these days

[livid idol]

Feels like we went back in time 3 years

[modest shuttle]

i hate myself for canceling the couple cards i got on launch day in hopes of getting one of the cards i truly wanted

[covert parrot]

I pushed through 2 cards got it purchased but then cancelled like many others. It really sucks that they dont honor the cancelled orders and just forget about those people

Should be some sort of priorty there in my opinon

[modest shuttle]

shuffle shouldve been used from day 1

[livid idol]

It's not practical for a large volume of cards

It's more suited for smaller restocks

[modest shuttle]

eh i think it's more than practical if it's designed correctly. X number of cards means X numbers of people selected and wittle it down from there

[livid idol]

Waiting for 1,000 people to respond to an email doesn't sound practical to me

[modest shuttle]

all of it could be entirely automated

[livid idol]

It would need to be redesigned for less input from entrants, which only helps the bots

[modest shuttle]

leaving it wide open for everyone helps bots far more

[livid idol]

We're in agreement there

But they didn't have time to totally redesign the system before the launch

[modest shuttle]

its not perfect, ive yet to see a perfect solution, but something is usually better than nothing.

this and the line system at best buy is all ive seen

EVGA had their queue system which worked ok

[livid idol]

The best system I saw was from brands like EVGA where you needed to have a registered EVGA product to enter the drawing

RIP EVGA GPU

I think MSI did something similar? Could be wrong there

Zotac had a decent lottery system that prevented multiple entries from the same IP

[modest shuttle]

rare Zotac W

[livid idol]

The worst system I saw was from Best Buy. They gave priority access to paid members for GPUs and PS5s, effectively meaning you could pay to win.

But the membership was like $200 💀

[modest shuttle]

its amazing theyre still in business

[keen nacelle]

i forgot abt that

god i hated working for best buy

[modest shuttle]

i quit after the first day

[keen nacelle]

took me two months

[livid idol]

I'd argue that it helped their business because scalpers paid that in a heartbeat. It just didn't help their image

[modest shuttle]

they put me on the floor on my first day without any help, instructions or anyone nearby to ask questions to

[livid idol]

"lol good luck, remember you have a sales quota"

[modest shuttle]

i cant even fathom how bad working in retail must be now

[noble cosmos]

Where can I find a Nvidia 5090? I’m having a hard time finding it in stock

[keen nacelle]

that's pretty much your answer, they're not in stock anywhere

and they're being scalped for 4-6k on second hand markets

[modest shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[raven wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

[hidden pawn]

hey guys can someone please help me with some issues i’m having with my new 9070xt

[keen flax]

I'm thinking of finally getting cyberpunk as it's $24 on steam. How's the performance on the 9070xt at 1440p?

[hidden pawn]

yes bro

[left quiver]

how can i go back to old ver?

[hidden pawn]

i have no ide

i just installed mine and its giving me driver issues as well

[modest shuttle]

hmm maybe i shouldnt do a new build, not much improvement between just adding the 9070 to my current and a full new build

[left quiver]

i had my gpu crash and frame freezes

[hidden pawn]

i used the amd clean up tool, going to get rid of the BS drivers and try to redownload stuff

sigh

[hidden pawn]

okay finally its working

now redownloading GCC to try to get it to update and detect my XT so I can change the RGB settings on it

[keen flax]

What kinda issues are you having?

[keen nacelle]

if you swapped gpus, did you

?ddu

[neat venture]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[jolly flint]

is newegg limiting GPU purchases per customer?

[frank dagger]

Any tips for thermal pad replacement?
Doin a replacement of possibly all pads after holdin out on the 3080ti mod thing for so long.
Got x-blade with replacements and 1 set of tweasers from an i fix it kit

I have the right pads as well. 1.5 mm thickness. Two 85 x 45 sheets

[livid idol]

Currently Newegg is limiting one per address from what I understand. They're also using the shuffle raffle system to select buyers to make it more fair.

Business customers would likely be exempt from that limit but they still have to fight over them like everyone else

[woven moon]

9070xt white quicksilver is up... for 869 ..lol

[jolly flint]

I bought a 5080, but seems like they wont let me order a 5090 now. or it was actually already gone

[livid idol]

You can message @cursive urchin and they might be able to give you more details

We're outside business hours right now but you should get a reply tomorrow.

(we being used in the sense that everyone is outside the hours, I am not affiliated with Newegg)

[dusk nexus]

So anyone here have a 9070xt? And if so does your hot spot get crazy high?

I’m currently getting a 43c temp and an 83c hot spot

I’ve hit 86c with GPU temp registering around 45c

[odd siren]

Supposed to

[dusk nexus]

Ok wasn’t sure if that was getting to high, the GPU reviews seemed to not like when it was getting close to 90

[odd siren]

The behaviour seems very common across 9000 series

And 7000 series it was common up to a 30 degree delta so honestly Im still not that surprised

[dusk nexus]

I seem to have a decently stable OC/UV on the steel legend. Getting -100hz +500mhz and +10% power and hitting a constant 3150mhz and touching 32-3300

[odd siren]

Thats actually nice as heck

[dusk nexus]

Yea I was just confused it was so wide

[dusk nexus]

Been playing with it all day hasn’t crashed once

[odd siren]

People mistake this for radeon, recent cards tend to have wide hotspot deltas

[dusk nexus]

It was an MSRP card wasn’t sure what it would be able to do

[odd siren]

And 9070/XT is even more true to this

40C delta is not surprising at all

There's a valid reason why

[dusk nexus]

It’s a sick 1440 card it’s basically maxing out all games at 165 and it wants to push upwards of 300 on some lmao

[odd siren]

Older rdna 3 had a bigger die and pulled as much power

And when heat becomes concentrated into smaller spaces, it gets harder to keep stable

[dusk nexus]

Ahh so the smaller die pushes it higher?

[odd siren]

So rdna 4 (9070XT) is a smaller die ye

Ye you got it

Because it's more concentrated, it's pushing higher hotspot

Be worried about it when it reaches over 100

Rn it's ok

[dusk nexus]

I’m surprised they didn’t go for hotter memory then

If I’m remembering right doesn’t the 6x and 7 like hotter temps?

[odd siren]

Gddr6 likes to be warm

Having temps in the 80s is good for it

Don't be fooled by what the internet says

Nand enjoys heat to a point

[dusk nexus]

Isn’t this the internet lol

Jkjk

[odd siren]

It has a max temp of about 95 but it'll throttle

True lol

Either way the card sounds fine rn

[dusk nexus]

Oh yea na I’m good it was touching like 85-86 then it would drop and hold around 80-83

[odd siren]

Check it every so often like an update to see if temps degrade, but rn it sounds just fine

[dusk nexus]

Perfect!

I think I’m gonna listen to you guys and pair it with a 1440 OLED

[odd siren]

Hell yeah

The endgame

[dusk nexus]

Trump and his tariffs got me to pull ahead my upgrade.. seems to have been smart so far with how much higher prices want to move and no sign of ending the trade bs

[odd siren]

Fr

I'm thinking of grabbing my case change today then calling it for a year or so lol

[dusk nexus]

Yea I basically did a full rebuild, passed everything to my wife but still was planning to wait another year or so

1500$ later lol

[modest shuttle]

So the average scores in 3dmark for my current processor and a 9070 are around 23k, with a 9800, they're only 26k. That's a very small jump right? I'm considering doing an entire build but feel like that's not a big enough jump now

[odd siren]

That's a whole 10%

And that's just 3dmark

[modest shuttle]

But for $~1800?

[odd siren]

Of all things 3dmark saying 10% is a big deal lol

@modest shuttle what's ur current cpu

[modest shuttle]

5900x

[odd siren]

Ok so you're in a similar situation to the build I'm redoing rn

Peg a 5900x below that entire graph

I'd say about

136-140 average fps

That's roughly where it'd sit

Now this is 1080p bound but the jump to a 9800x3d is honestly enormous in that regard

Consider it in 1440p even if you cut that down to like half as much by going up a res that's still some 25% uplift

It's quite the jump, it also gives you room to just pop in an upgrade later

You could go two ways here tho

What I'm doing is overclocking the 5900X I have to hell and back to make it run a gpu like this well enough

[modest shuttle]

Lol

I don't really mess with OC

[odd siren]

Takes practice to do this but the jump is huge

[modest shuttle]

I am considering trying undervolting if I ever get a 9070 though

[odd siren]

If you're not keen on OC I'd consider the 9800x3d route

9070 at 26K is on the edge of what I'd consider 8 core ccd ryzen chips able to run

5900X is 12 core so 2 6ccd's

Which is lower potential

So I do reckon you'll be a little bottlenecked

[modest shuttle]

Yeah, that's why I planned on the 9800, maybe I just don't understand the jump enough

[odd siren]

As you've said above you lose some 10-15%

Think of it in reverse

You waited to upgrade right?

The generational jump this year is some15-20% to begin with

[modest shuttle]

I honestly hadn't planned to upgrade till I saw the 9070 reviews then I figured eh it's been 5 years just do a full build around it

[odd siren]

By not seeking out that full potential you kinda wash the value of your upgrade anyway, it's not gone but you leave it on the table

[odd siren]

If it was easier you could change to 5700x3d

5700x3d will handle it

[modest shuttle]

If it's a good size jump I'm fine with going the 9800 route, I think I just don't understand the tech enough

[odd siren]

It's kinda hard to explain well cos the gamut of games nowadays is all over the place

It's not like 5 years ago when you could use a 4th gen intel and still be ok lol

You're right in one way, in another I'd say there's definitely something there

[modest shuttle]

At the very least it should leave me in a good position for quite awhile

[odd siren]

But you could just drop the 5700x3d in if you wanna stall but still unlock the full potential

Sell the 5900x

Net pretty even

[modest shuttle]

If I sell my 3080 that should almost pay for the 9800

[odd siren]

I mean yeah

It's up to you tbh

[modest shuttle]

I'm hoping to sell most of my stuff, only thing I'm keeping is the PSU

and ssd

[odd siren]

Either way I'd say you can def offset a lot of the cost if you wanna just get to a working state

5700x3d + 9070 is like, 850?

Vs 1800

[modest shuttle]

I'll have a think on it, it's looking like it'll be awhile till I get a 9070 so I can stew on it and see what feels right

[odd siren]

Sure thing

I mean even if you do get one, you can try your options first before you commit

If you have a good ram kit OC is on the table

[modest shuttle]

I'll be up in the mountains all day tomorrow will give me something to occupy my mind 😂

[odd siren]

Lmao

These decisions are hard

[modest shuttle]

Yeah, it's endless analysis paralysis for me with every component

If I don't pull the trigger right away I second guess all of it forever

[raven wharf]

did u get ur 9070 btw

[modest shuttle]

punished for going grocery shopping, was up for 6 whole minutes

[patent crystal]

Where are you looking to buy GPUs

[dusk nexus]

they just restocked at best buy but for lik 750

[finite raptor]

Hi everyone. I just upgraded my RTX 3090 to RTX 5090. What should I do next?

Do I just run and update my Nvidia app to replace the old driver?

[cerulean rover]

Best practice is still to DDU and reinstall if possible, but you can just update drivers and it should work

[finite raptor]

I kinda remember reading online about checking cpuz if the 5090 has lower performance. Is that a thing and what should I be checking?

[cerulean rover]

Open up GPUz and look at ROPS count

[finite raptor]

I have 176/680

[cerulean rover]

that's the normal amount

If it said 168 you were missing 8

[finite raptor]

Thanks again

[quasi flicker]

Are current NVIDIA drivers still bricking OSs and generally being problematic?

Or did they fix that in under two months (new NVIDIA pr for actually fixing an issue if so)

[modest shuttle]

A website called Nowinstock tracks certain tech items

[prime fulcrum]

Pretty sure it's fixed

Happened to me a month ago. Windows recovery saved me cuz it had a Backup from few days prior from an update

[modest shuttle]

stupid aibs just take my money already

[odd siren]

572.X is still a mixed bag

Some fixed, some not

[cold fox]

There’s a bundle for a 9070xt at 660 on Newegg

[keen flax]

So far I haven't had any issues with my 9070xt

The only issue I have is running a paltry 5600x with this beast of a card

[patent crystal]

Sure would be nice to get any card in Canada at this point lol

[dusk nexus]

same, what model did you end up picking up?

[keen flax]

Sapphire Pulse

[dusk nexus]

mine runs a tad hot (at least i think) but others feel its still ok. Max hot spot has hit about 85c

[dusk nexus]

damn very nice! that is the one i wanted!

[keen flax]

Really? Temps are slightly warmer than my XC3 ultra 3070, but not by much. No complaints there either.

[keen flax]

Yup so far so good

[dusk nexus]

yea my core temps are good but my hot spot gets up there i have a delta of about 30c

sometimes more

[keen flax]

Which one did you get?

[dusk nexus]

but apparently 85c is still within reason

[keen flax]

Yeah I think 90+ is where it's concerning

[dusk nexus]

steel legend

[keen flax]

Ooh nice

That's the one with the transparent fans right?

[dusk nexus]

yea it was MSRP which is really what i cared about. it actually goes good with my build bc i have the steel legend MOBO too so i have a kinda white/black theme. picked up some white cable extensions to go wtih it too but, still have to swap those out

[dusk nexus]

yea they are transparent but RGB

[keen flax]

Nice

[dusk nexus]

it has actually OCd pretty damn nice too

ive only had 1 game give me issues. and its the first time i played the game so idek if its just that it doesnt like AMD lol

[keen flax]

Yup, personally I prefer no RGB, but it still looks very nice!

[dusk nexus]

yea dont get me wrong i didnt really WANT rgb, i just kinda tolerate it. only my mobo (bottom bar) and the GPU have any rgb otherwise all my fans are just basic same with ram

its just enough unicorn puke to be tolerable lol

[keen flax]

I went full RGB with my original build but I got tired of it lol

[dusk nexus]

yea i feel like to much can happen real fast

It’s not the worst

[keen flax]

Yeah looking very good!

[dusk nexus]

thanks, im hoping the white extensions clean it up a bit

some of the pathing options for the wires confuse me. like i really dont understand the USB cable and the one right under it. not really sure how to make those cleaner

[keen flax]

Yeah those USB cables are hard to cable manage

Next build I make I want a bigger case

[keen flax]

Which case is that? Looks so good to build in

[dusk nexus]

antec flux pro. came with 6 stock fans and the little temp guage. i think i paid 150$ for it while it was on sale

[keen flax]

It looks very nice

My Corsair 465x feels very cramped lol

[dusk nexus]

wanted to make sure i had room if i decide to go with an AIO. currently the 9800x3d seems cool enough. i can torture test it and push it up to like 80c but that doesnt happen with gaming

[keen flax]

What cooler are you using?

[dusk nexus]

scythe fuma 2 from previous build

[keen flax]

Nice

I just want to move away from all the RGB and icue software

Just go to a nice mesh front airflow focused no RGB fans case.

[keen nacelle]

For Hotspot 100-105 isn't absurd

Vram can tolerate higher temps than core can

Id be worried around 105 but it shouldn't cause any damage, 110 is cause for concern

At least for g6x, not sure about gddr7

[dusk nexus]

yea i think my last case was the lian li aircool mesh. it was amazing for temps had 3 solid fans in the front with a case toggle for fan speed and a 6? port hub included which was nice

[dusk nexus]

doesnt the 9070xt use reg g6?

[keen nacelle]

Does it? I thought it was 7

You're right it is g6

[dusk nexus]

yea i was talking to i think buildboi the other night and he mentioned that g6 like to be warm tho too

[keen flax]

Ooh nice! I'd prefer to also have a fan hub included.

[solemn panther]

Nice. It is very rare to see current gen photos in this server. How did you get the card?

[dusk nexus]

im originally from NY so when the MC up there restocked i called a friend who lives literally around the block lol

[dusk nexus]

yea it was really simple. im pretty sure this one does too tbh but really dont remember

[solemn panther]

Great.

[keen flax]

My case is looking very tight rn lol

I need to take everything apart and give it a good clean up

[odd siren]

@keen flax

Question

What's the silver plate on the front of the card look like

[keen flax]

Yes it's been awhile since I last cleaned it well :/

[odd siren]

Is it like stainless steel

Does it look a bit rough?

Is it removeable?

[keen flax]

Let me check lol

[odd siren]

I have my own one coming

Wanna gauge the aesthetic

Lol

[dusk nexus]

yea i wasnt paying scalper pricing, even with shipping and insuracne cost it was cheaper than the Newegg listed prices now. Crazy thing is that on restock there was about 30-40 of them and when he got there there was only 2 cards left, it couldnt ahve taken him more then 20 mins

[dusk nexus]

at that point maybe look at a new case? i mean if your not happy with it and will have it apart anyway seems like the best time haha

[keen flax]

True but I just spent a lot on the GPU lmao

[odd siren]

Card

[keen flax]

Yess sorry got a phone call lol

[odd siren]

I'm joking lol

Mine turns up like today or tomorrow

[keen flax]

It seems to be removable

And it feels like metal

Is that what you wanted to see? @odd siren

Before I put back on the panel lol

[odd siren]

Yes that's actually exactly what I wanted

Cheers

So it's stainless steel

I made the right call to measure up a vertical mount then

[keen flax]

Yup!

But it looks kinda scratched or something

[odd siren]

It's stainless steel

You know like your kitchen tools

[keen flax]

I haven't touched it, I took the plastic after I installed the card

[keen flax]

Yup lol

Stainless steel is pretty soft

The backplate looks really good as well

[finite raptor]

Another price increase from Asus

[odd siren]

Lmfao

[finite raptor]

Is it because of the Tarrifs or just Greed...

[odd siren]

On Nvidia's side it's greed

Nvidia makes huge margins on the gpu chip now (Confirmed)

The rest is greed, capitalising on a desparate market

[finite raptor]

Ya but only Asus has been increasing their prices

I havnt heard from the other board partners

[odd siren]

30% more performance and costs twice as much as my top model 4090

[finite raptor]

I just hope the scalpers doesn't raise prices, but sadly I think they will.

[odd siren]

Retailers, aibs and scalpers are all doing it

Cos people keep buying

[finite raptor]

Cause of the low supplies and it feels like it's intentional now

[odd siren]

It is intentional

There's no good intents anywhere here

There are desperate buyers and greedy sellers

[finite raptor]

Ya at this point I'm starting to believe it

[odd siren]

This is why you don't buy at times like this

[finite raptor]

It's been like since since the 30 series and those prices are still scalped

[odd siren]

No 40 series wasn't like this

We had normalisation in 40 series

The prices settled down to a much lower point

[finite raptor]

Lol I can't even find a 40 series on MSRP

[odd siren]

50 series started where 40 series began and set the bar back up

Yeah cos 40 series is discontinued

Nvidia stopped all production early

[finite raptor]

All goes back to intentional low supplies

[odd siren]

When 40 series stopped, you had peak moments of buying something like a 4080 or 4080 super for 800

4070 Ti's for 620

Now for either of their successors you're lucky to spend 50% more than that for barely any better

On top of that Nvidia also makes huge margins on the chips themselves

Compared to previous gens

EVGA couldn't look more right atm than ever

They backed out for a reason and now you can see it in full stride

ASUS and the others raising prices are because Nvidia knows they can make them pay for it

And they're trying to shut the AIB's out so we can only buy founders cards

This is the monopoly behaviours, one facet of it while the other side are the people who will pay these prices, the monosponistic people

Who will just eat the price

These are the reasons why Nvidia is doing whatever they want cos they know they will make the money off it

It's like, buying a noctua

You can buy a thermalright cooler for a fifth of the price

Get the same performance

Thermalright will make maybe a couple dollars

Compare that to Noctua

They will sell their competing cooler for 5 times the price (This is real btw)

Make maybe $110 profit

While noctua can't compete on the same price scale as thermalright, they're the same performing cooler

But for every 30 odd Thermalright

Noctua sells only one to compete

Nvidia can basically do this rn and get away with it

Instead of selling 20 cards with $100 profit

[finite raptor]

That's normal buisness practices tho, if the brand is popular they raise their prices for larger profits

[odd siren]

They'll sell 4 at $500 profit

And make the same margin

[odd siren]

Ofc it is

Not saying it's unwarranted

They made this market

People aren't waking up to this complete capitalisation of their resources

It's legal, it's fair, there's nothing wrong with it

But if that's what people want, then the prices will only get worse

If you don't want to pay these prices, don't buy them, it's simple as that

This is why 9070XTs cost $800 from Asus lol

Even though AMD is encouraging MSRP models and rebates

They can still make margins but the companies themselves want to sell less cards and make more money

Until people realise that they themselves are the problem, you will continue to see this

[modest shuttle]

sadly, just like video game microtransactions, youll always be outspent by those with money so it's never going to change. "vote with your wallet" is a fallacy, you either pay or get left behind

[odd siren]

It's the same reason new iPhones cost like $1600

Lol

[odd siren]

To a point

It's very much to a point

This is why the market had a massive slump post covid

We had some of the slowest quarters in pc building history post covid

Only a few months after 40 series

People had stopped buying, and this was despite the influx of new generation cards

The difference being is this time it's more artificially produced by the absolute lack of graphics cards out there rn

In any case you're gonna keep seeing this for a while yet until everyone wakes up and that wellspring dries up

Companies are trying to bank on consumers big time rn

Artificial climate created by the businesses themselves

Kinda makes me glad I encouraged a lot of people to buy before next gen as I'd gone through this a couple times now lol

We had a lot of sales go through you just won't find at all rn

[rich cedar]

Yeah people need to quit buying if they want the market to normalize

[dusk nexus]

unless you get that msrp

[solemn panther]

So.....Ig AIBs the true enemy here?

[glass coral]

anyone at newegg would let us know about a restock?

[livid idol]

#restocks

[random walrus]

Says #No Access for me fyi

[livid idol]

Hmm

[glass coral]

same

[dusk nexus]

same here too

[odd siren]

Hmm

[raven wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-christopher-nolan-bruce-wayne-batman-where-are-they-gif-5103771

[modest shuttle]

unless they use shuffle expect bots to get them all first

[modest shuttle]

I will say as someone who has been watching stock tracking tools pretty much non-stop since launch the well has really dried up now

[glass coral]

Prolly won’t have a chance for a couple of weeks

[modest shuttle]

there will be chances, but theyll be slim

[normal gale]

Intel seems to be on track to release their third card in 3 years, and the B580 has excellent reviews.

[modest shuttle]

couldve just had a white swift but i dont want white

[stone obsidian]

I feel like my computer has been having issues lately because before i had no problem running 2 monitors with a video playing on one and now i can't without the video getting choppy. I've been having delays when opening programs, and just now the new Nvidia recording overlay crashed my entire PC in the middle of playing monster hunter

Idk what's going on with it tbh and it's getting frustrating. Idk if my cpu is the cause or what

[cerulean rover]

I'd blame windows first unless you've done something recently with hardware

Nvidia's overlay has also been buggy for a long time

[keen nacelle]

Not sure if its what you're looking for
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DWHHSZH1?ref=cm_sw_r_cso_cp_apan_dp_PBPZ5RM5V8XK8DY0TFKY&ref_=cm_sw_r_cso_cp_apan_dp_PBPZ5RM5V8XK8DY0TFKY&social_share=cm_sw_r_cso_cp_apan_dp_PBPZ5RM5V8XK8DY0TFKY

Not a great price but its not terrible either

@dusk nexus

Idt you're looking for it, but just in case

[stone obsidian]

yeah idk tbh. I mean i know my CPU is ab bit lacking compared to the rest of my PC but still\

deadass tempted to try linux if it is windows

my cpu is a ryzen 7 3600x compared to my 3060ti. What other recording software could I use to make clips on the fly?

[cerulean rover]

OBS has a way to do it, I've forgotten the specifics but it's more reliable than the Nvidia overlay

[stone obsidian]

ope

ill check it i didnt know they offered that

[modest shuttle]

rip sold already

[cerulean rover]

I used to use the Nvidia overlay a lot on my old 3060ti, it has just been a lot less consistent in the past year, it keeps crashing the overlay or not recording audio or corrupting half the recording etc

[keen nacelle]

Oh damn

Was $830

[modest shuttle]

wegg just dropped a gigabyte card(5070ti) at $1k 😄

[keen nacelle]

Ew

[modest shuttle]

dropping 5070s but no 9070s rip

[keen nacelle]

Lmao there's a $1540 5080

$660 white 5070, meh

[haughty musk]

do you think the 7900 gre will increase or decrease in value over time since they stopped making them

[junior locust]

It's probably gonna get more and more pricey to a point

Until it can no longer be used for 1440p gaming

Then suddenly price will crater

[cerulean rover]

overall the value is going to decrease over time

everything hardware wise goes out of production after a year or a couple of years

[haughty musk]

cause they're all out of stock rn and the ones that arent are like $1000 usd which is crazy

[cerulean rover]

everything old is out of stock, like a 1080ti "new" is like $700, not like it's actually worth that much

[haughty musk]

oh ok makes sense

[craggy pier]

I have a red devil gre and refuse to believe itd sell for that much lol

Listed price ≠ selling price

[keen nacelle]

They might go for 600ish with current availability

[craggy pier]

Thats 40 bucks more than what i paid for mine without taxes involved

Id only do it to grab a 9070xt 😔

I havent seen much about how the 9070/xt is doing ngl

[keen nacelle]

Oos

Was a $760 9070xt

[raven wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/this-deal-is-getting-worse-star-wars-gif-10854773

I love fake msrp!!

[rich kettle]

This is the most 5080s that have ever been available including launch.

[craggy pier]

So it really was a fake msrp

AMD really did pull a prince charming pulling off the helmet to reveal an ogre

[modest shuttle]

releasing the quicksilver for $860 is actually criminal

this is the worst price online im aware of directly from a retailer

(so far)

[keen nacelle]

Ew

There's a refurb xtx for $850 from wegg rn

[modest shuttle]

shouldve kept the swift i had at $750 lol

[raven wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/robot-chicken-star-wars-lando-lando-calrissian-this-deal-is-getting-worse-gif-19884254

[karmic frigate]

Hello, does anyone have a list of all the termals of all RX 9070 xt cards?

Prefferably including temps of the hotspots, as well as the VRAM

[modest shuttle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OGfWRTJ7w8

Anyone with a pulse getting similar VRAM temps he mentioned here?

ive seen a couple comments on reddit of people hitting 96-97c and games shutting down

several 5070tis have been up for a bit, all $900+ lol

[haughty musk]

i got mine for 550 so some profit if i decided to sell it rn

[livid idol]

100C is within spec, and would only cause throttling under normal circumstances

[modest shuttle]

weird the comments i saw said 96 is what the max is, maybe i misread

[livid idol]

It's GDDR6 which has always been 100. 6X is 110.

[odd siren]

97 and shutting down makes sense

Cos they couldn't see 100

That's the idea

It'd shut down the moment it reads 100

[livid idol]

I guess if they programmed it wrong and set that as the safety shutoff instead of the throttle point

[odd siren]

My 3090 would shut down at 105C

Cos peak reads would spike higher

And that's the shutoff

[patent crystal]

Hey is PCIe Express 5.0 x16 Different from 5.0 ??

[livid idol]

Weird because my 3080 ti would happily hit 112 and just throttle

[odd siren]

5.0 is the spec, x16 is the lane count of 5.0 lanes

[modest shuttle]

I caved and bought one of the pulse bundles but got scared off by that video + comments about temps... probably my ignorance seeping in but wanted to do some more research first

[livid idol]

The 3090 was hitting 116

[odd siren]

It can also mean the slot size

[odd siren]

I mean, I'm getting a pulse

If mine does that I'll fix it

Just wait until I figure it out lmao

[livid idol]

WAIT
IS IT THE FOAM

[odd siren]

I did put a psa in #tech-industry-news about that but no

9070xt vram is a bit high

[modest shuttle]

no the people i read comments from said they removed the foam and the GN video didnt have foam as it was added after

im sure im just overthinking things as usual

[odd siren]

It'll be fixable

I promise lol

[modest shuttle]

no doubt, but it shouldnt have to be, i dont like doing that kinda stuff

$800 should get you something that isn't that close to max temps

[odd siren]

Sapphire won't void your warranty for something like that, this is public information

[livid idol]

At least there haven't been reports of any melting

[odd siren]

I mean, $2000 and a melted bricked connector...

Vram is very fixable

[modest shuttle]

yeah well thankfully im not dumb enough or rich enough to pay $2k for a gpu

[odd siren]

Brands haven't caught on to using putty for vram yet

They still use pads

They also don't run shims either

[livid idol]

Worst case you get a 25g tub of UTP-8

[odd siren]

There's a number of ways to fix this

[modest shuttle]

all the comments i read talk about different ways, just not something i want to do or feel like should be necessary, but i get it. and its easy to disassemble which is nice

[odd siren]

And sapphire won't void the card for it

So you have no real risk here

Xfx are the same, they don't mind if you tear the card apart for a repaste

Evga levels of consideration

[livid idol]

Galax too iirc

They know what their brand is for lol

1000W vbios yeet

[modest shuttle]

people must be getting smarter or something, the $900-1k 5070tis have been up for hours

[odd siren]

Wow

$900?

Or did nvidia finally live up to their stock promises

[odd siren]

Damn

[modest shuttle]

ships from amazon germany lmao

its $892 before import fees

ive been staring at it for a bit

half tempted and then im done chasing gpus

[odd siren]

How much was the pulse

[modest shuttle]

well its $730 but it was in a bundle cause im tired of watching these trackers all day

so $850

[odd siren]

730 standalone

Right

Pulse better

[keen flax]

temps are fine on mine so far

let me boot up a more demanding game like indiana jones

[modest shuttle]

the comments i was reading (anecdotal) said it was after playing something like tsushima for 30+ minutes

[keen flax]

I'm going to play it for a bit and see how the temps will be

[keen flax]

.

That's with full path tracing max settings with Quality fsr

W/O path tracing and no upscaling it hovers around 80

[modest shuttle]

90 seems in line with the GN video

[keen flax]

Yeah, I don't think that's too concerning, Gddr6 runs alright up to 105 if im not mistaken right?

[raven wharf]

wait fr?

[odd siren]

Ye

[raven wharf]

[keen flax]

Does this include undervolting too?

[odd siren]

They can't prove an undervolt or overclock so you're covered yes

Radeon cards are pretty locked down now anyway so I wouldn't expect that to be a red flag

You're not getting the choice to go above spec in the bad ways

[keen flax]

Ooh okay nice

Might try messing with that sometime then

[keen flax]

Was this a 614w power spike?

[odd siren]

Yeah it would've been

Thing is the maximum is the same as rail readings for nvidia

It reads an instant of power

Vs others like tdp or tgp

Which read an average over a period

[keen flax]

Damn that's huge then

[odd siren]

So like maximum is at that exact moment it reads

[keen flax]

Didn't see that last night when I was playing

[odd siren]

Vs the others which would be over the time between reads

So you're essentially reading transients

These are mostly ignored by the psu

[keen flax]

Ohh okay

[odd siren]

They're too fast for the psu to even notice or be actually affected

[keen flax]

Ahh that's good to know, I was getting worried lol

[odd siren]

Yeah it's big looking I know lmao