graphics-cards

[woeful juniper]

And priced even above MSRP at MC

[hidden pawn]

it’s ridiculous

was the gigabyte $600 before?

I don’t think it was right? it was always $720

I wonder why this one was so expensive in relation considering it’s also just a base model right

[keen flax]

Exactly

[karmic frigate]

It was actually stocked in my microcenter for MSRP for a fair while, like around 4 hours.
But I really didn't feel like making a 2 hour drive one way for a card.

[keen flax]

There's no way in hell I'm paying $130 extra for a base gigabyte card

[blissful folio]

I have to make a 6 hour drive for my closest MC lol

[modest shuttle]

Ive seen so much Gigabyte hate in the last few days Im not sure I'd buy one at $599

[karmic frigate]

$720 is the OC varient

[keen flax]

I believe it was

[karmic frigate]

None OC:
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-gv-r9070xtgaming-16gd-amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16gb-gddr6/p/N82E16814932783?Item=N82E16814932783&recaptcha=pass

OC:
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-gv-r9070xtgaming-oc-16gd-amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16gb-gddr6/p/N82E16814932751?Item=N82E16814932751

[keen flax]

Oohh

[blissful folio]

ey the OC is in stock lol

[karmic frigate]

It is not, they show it in stock but you can't checkout with it

[blissful folio]

thats big dumb

[sleek willow]

Even tried the combo deal and nothing

[modest shuttle]

it's absolutely hilarious they will use shuffle for nvidia but not amd

[karmic bough]

I managed to place an order for the Aorus Elite - more than I wanted to spend, but I doubt the $600 ones are coming back with the way things are right now. Hopefully my order actually ships!

[karmic frigate]

To be fair they haven't done it before, and the cards just released, so they might start just a bit later tho

[modest shuttle]

the release seems like the absolute most pertinent time to use it

[covert parrot]

Damn bro i cant place an order on the aorus elite and ive been trying since 10 am pst

[karmic frigate]

I assume they will be back in 3-6 months when people will just decide that Nvidia cards just make more sense when comparing the AMD ones you could actually buy, to Nvidia

[covert parrot]

just tells me order exceed limit

[modest shuttle]

if you're gonna pay that much you're likely better off waiting for one of the cards from a brand with better reputation but ymmv

[karmic bough]

I placed my order about 15 minutes ago, just couldn't post until now due to being at work. Of course I got a work call I had to answer right at 10am and had to try to order and work at the same time!

[covert parrot]

🤷‍♂️ id want the asus tuf, but im fine with aorus i really doubt id have issues with that card

[round imp]

I got a 9070 OC. which is a massive change from what i have.... a 2070!

[covert parrot]

sick that it worked out for u

hate these online drops cause i never am able to push the order through

[round imp]

I praying to the computer gods that i actually get to one... meaning that it doesnt get cancelled

[covert parrot]

yea mine did with the first launch it sucks

[karmic bough]

I got lucky for sure (assuming it isn't canceled like some people Thursday)

[covert parrot]

idk if my order is being cancelled cause just online issues with bots and all that or because its counting my cancelled order as exceeding the limit.

[karmic frigate]

Did u already place an order or are you trying to check out?

[covert parrot]

nah this time i didnt get the order through jsut tryna check out. Prob just bots buying it out again it tells me inventory either out or customer exceeding the limit of item

[karmic frigate]

I assume it already got sold out, but the store page for the card just hasent updated

[covert parrot]

yea it 100 sold out already i was just trying in spite of it lol

been trying for 30 mins now since 10 am pst

[vast relic]

I also am getting the above limit error and I got one cancelled on release.

[woeful juniper]

Which MC are you by? Everytime I go to MC it sells out in an hour depending on quantity

[woeful juniper]

Yeah that bih sold out in 4 mins

[vast relic]

Crazy I tried to purchase within the first minute but it was already sold out.

[karmic frigate]

Tustin

[covert parrot]

not even i was literally there as it launched getting the same error

[covert parrot]

oh same here

[woeful juniper]

Yeah that mf must've sold out ASAP

Botty

[covert parrot]

if it restocks in tustin i might drive over

[karmic frigate]

Ya idk I might just buy it whenever it would finally be widly avalibe again

[vast relic]

Newegg should give those with cancelled orders some kind of priority queue for stringing us along like that.

[karmic frigate]

It seems like there are too many scalpers buying things out with bots, and they will not go away until people will stop buying cards from ebay

[peak swift]

They should, but they don't have any reason to. You're still gonna buy from them if it comes back in stock

It's a shame MSI isn't making AMD cards anymore. Their site being such 💩 ironically made it more bot resistant

[forest oasis]

💀

[hidden pawn]

the non is the one i have

and it was $777 after tax so

i guess price went up

[karmic frigate]

https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-pulse-11348-03-20g-amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16gb-gddr6/p/N82E16814202450?Item=N82E16814202450

Got restocked

[keen flax]

Just got a pulse

Let's see how long till they cancel lmao

[karmic frigate]

Manage to place an order on that one

[keen flax]

Yup

[sleek willow]

I think I managed to grab one as well lol. Says confirmed...

[visual rune]

Same

[keen flax]

Sooo

[karmic frigate]

NOW WE CAN PLAY THE CANNCEL ROULATE BOYS

[sleek willow]

Soooo you're saying theres a chance....

[karmic frigate]

WHO IS IN/

[keen flax]

In the event of actually getting it, would three fiddy be a fair price for a 3070 XC3 ultra lmao

[hidden pawn]

no way

Good job yall

how much was the pulse?

[sleek willow]

729

[keen flax]

$729 💀

[visual rune]

Order updated to packaging?

[karmic frigate]

@visual rune @karmic frigate @sleek willow @hidden pawn @keen flax We all have an order place?

Type in the chat if it will get cannceled for you I really want to know how many of us will win this lol

[keen flax]

Still processing

[hidden pawn]

i’m guessing a 25% cancel rate at the most anything above that would be crazy

[keen flax]

I placed one too on pulse

[hidden pawn]

same

[hidden pawn]

actually ridiculous

[karmic frigate]

I edited it you on the message

[keen flax]

I'm getting regrets now lmaoo

[versed kestrel]

restock pure pls

[sleek willow]

Buyers remorse? lol

[keen flax]

hahahaha

[hidden pawn]

tbh either keep it or sell it to someone else in your area for $20-30

[karmic frigate]

Did I help anyone btw, or did you all catch it before I posted a message?

[hidden pawn]

don’t overcharge though

[keen flax]

Nah I'll probably keep it and sell my 3070

[sleek willow]

It says packaging on mine now

[keen flax]

350 is fair for a XC3 ultra right?

I've seen cheaper versions for around that locally

[karmic frigate]

SAME YOOOO CONGRATS EVERYONE WHO GOT IT

[hidden pawn]

same is that a good thing?

[hidden pawn]

tbh idk why but i’m not even as excited as i thought i would be. maybe because of the fact that i wanted the red devil but

[keen flax]

Yesss packaging

[hidden pawn]

just having a bad day tbh

[keen flax]

I wanted the pulse lol

[karmic frigate]

Now I'm not really happy that I over payed 130$ which I did because pulse was originally MSRP but we will see how it will go in the future, and if I will want to return it

[worldly bolt]

I'm tryna hold out for the Nitro+

[hidden pawn]

hey guys, are any of yall skilled with pc stuff that could help me with something

[keen flax]

How's Newegg refund policy for this stuff?

[karmic frigate]

Yp it means the order has proccessed, and should not get cannceled

[hidden pawn]

i had a 7800xt, and now i got the gigabyte one, how would i add the additional connector needed? should i buy it right now

[visual rune]

WOOOO time to put my 1080 to rest

[karmic frigate]

Ahh ya just check for a cable in the bag that came with your power supply

[karmic frigate]

Also is rx 9070 xt really worthy of an upgrade for you? I'm upgratting from 1080

[hidden pawn]

to be honest i’m paying like $260 out of pocket for it

[covert parrot]

your not supposed to mix and match cables, just use the ones that are with your power supply. If you dont have them then honestly maybe you can look up your psu online and maybe they sell cables separately for it? Idk if thats a thing but idk what else you would do

[hidden pawn]

imo it’ll be worth it just because i built my pc around a month ago and i plan to use this for a while

[karmic frigate]

Ohh dam, how did that happen, if you can disclose it?

[hidden pawn]

of course, i had bought a 7800xt from newegg around a month ago for $480 + tax and

i found a buyer for it on fb marketplace i’m selling it to them for $515 so pretty much exactly what i paid for it

😳

[karmic frigate]

Ahh okay ya this makes sense

[woven moon]

Manage to get a sapphire pulse card but i don't really like it. Dunno know if i'll keep it. If it was the nitro plus then i would sell my 7900xtx nitro and keep it. But i hate red lol

[karmic frigate]

Yoo estamated shiping is today

Noice

[keen flax]

Guys...

I think it won't fit in my case lmao

[woven moon]

what won't fit in your case?

[visual rune]

Oh yea, i had to get a new one. Went with a corsair 4000D

[keen flax]

The pulse

[woven moon]

lol

that sucks

[keen flax]

I'll need to measure when I'm home from work

If not my friend needs one for a new build

I'll just ask for what It costed me

[woven moon]

that's the good thing about my nitro+ 7900xtx its 320 but I have a havn hs420 so there's plenty of room.

[versed kestrel]

soo next restock when

[karmic frigate]

O NO LOL

[keen flax]

Good thing I got a sag bracket too lol

It definitely will sag

[karmic frigate]

Hope it will fit. Honestly worth just checking if it does when it will arive to you as the tollarances are typicly not exectly what they list.

[keen flax]

Yeah

[karmic frigate]

Hold up I have a chunky GPU, I can actually tell you if it will sag or not

[keen flax]

This is a old pic

But I think it'll fit

[karmic frigate]

Honestly from just the looks it looks like it should fit

[karmic frigate]

Worst case scenerio you will have to move your radiator to the top

320 x 121 x 62 mm

[hidden pawn]

hey laycookie quick question

[karmic frigate]

Dimmantions for anyone who needs them

[hidden pawn]

i can’t figure it out myself, but what type of connectors does this gigabyte one need?

is it a 2x8 split or 3x8 split

[karmic frigate]

3x8

3rd image https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-gv-r9070xtgaming-oc-16gd-amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16gb-gddr6/p/N82E16814932751?Item=N82E16814932751

[keen flax]

Yep

Pulse is like half an inch shorter than the nitro+ no?

[modest shuttle]

size in MM

[keen flax]

Also I'm happy that pulse only uses 2 8pin lol

[hidden pawn]

Gotcha thank you

[keen flax]

Exactly half an inch

It'll fit lol

[karmic frigate]

I actually don't mind the 3x connectors, as having 3 of them does not nessarly mean it will draw a lot of power, but it does mean you can push it more

[hidden pawn]

Do you think adding the pin to the PSU is an easy task or will i have to absolutely open everything?

like the extra cable

[karmic frigate]

Is it modular or is an old one?

[hidden pawn]

Modular the corsair750

[karmic frigate]

If it is modular, you just plug in a cable, if it is an old one with all cables attached it is pretty much imposible

[hidden pawn]

750 gold

[keen flax]

I prefer it bc my PSU only has X2 single cables lol

[hidden pawn]

who uses old PSU’s with new cards in 2025

crazy

[keen flax]

It's a good one haha

[karmic frigate]

Ya thats why I just assumed you use a modular one at the begging lol

[keen flax]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/79tQzy/corsair-rm750x-2018-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020179-na

[karmic frigate]

Ya it should be a matter of just plugging in a new cable in to it.

[round imp]

That’s what I just bought for the 9070 oc

[karmic frigate]

I got myself a 1200w bequite lmao

[hidden pawn]

also are you guys using a 850 or 750w? i looked online and it said 750w is just fine

[keen flax]

I've had this PC since dec 2020, I'll be building the rest of the new one next year

750w

[karmic frigate]

I like my psu's lasting me for 15 years

[keen flax]

Same

[karmic frigate]

Really dislike that PULSE is not an OC while it costs $100 more

[keen flax]

How many MHz less?

[woven moon]

The clocks don't really mean anything. As long as you know what your doing you and push the clock. Problem is what chip bin you got.

[keen flax]

I'll just leave it stock

I don't like OC'ing

[woven moon]

well the 9070xt undervolted and OCed at least the nitro can get you 8 percent average boost.

I still just don't like how the pulse looks but I'll hold on to it and see if i can grab another one.

[hidden pawn]

same imo the pulse is a little overrated looks wise

i think i’m just a bum because i love RGB

[woven moon]

same

That card will mess up how my pc looks. lol

[keen flax]

I don't like RGB hahaha

I got tired of it after my RGB barf pc

[karmic frigate]

Is there even anyone who actually likes how pulse looks like lmao

[keen flax]

I do 😦

[karmic frigate]

Haha lol
Ya no I can see it being nice bottom side, but I feel like up side that you will actually be seeing in your computer does not look good mostly because the heat sink is not painted black

[hidden pawn]

question guys, is the normal gigabyte overclocked? it says OC in its name so i don’t know

[sleek willow]

This will be my first AMD GPU. The price is much nicer than Nvidia this time, so I'm hopeful. It'll replace my 3070

[woven moon]

wtf the pulse is supposed to be an msrp card

wtf is the price that damn much

[sleek willow]

I feel like MSRP isn't real

[modest shuttle]

its not

[karmic frigate]

Thet have two versions that look the same but one is OC, while the second one is not.
The one for sale today was OC

[karmic frigate]

I KNOW. I'm also fairly confident it was originaly MSRP.

Like I remember seeing it up for $599 on the first day

[woven moon]

it was

[karmic frigate]

AMD is getting a lot of bad press for it rn, so I'm hoping they will pressure saphire to change the price back but we will see

[modest shuttle]

hmm, i just got a Swift off Amazon, but for $760

[karmic frigate]

Honestly... At this point I would just go with RTX 5070ti.
Like even for $730 I would probably just pay the extra $20 to go with Nvidia, but the only reason I don't is because I use Linux.

[modest shuttle]

5070ti's arent available for $750 lol

[woven moon]

just cancelled mine i'm not paying 729 for an msrp card

[modest shuttle]

the real msrp is closer to $700, AMD rug pulled people with their MSRP

[woven moon]

nah its still 599 at microcenter

and it doesn't have a price match badge

[modest shuttle]

well yeah, msrp only exists for a single store chain

[karmic frigate]

RIP.
I thought it is now getting mildly better with them now tho isn't it?
Like they are still not at MSRP prices, but you can actually buy them now if you just watch out for alerts

[modest shuttle]

so msrp is only real for ~5% of people

[woven moon]

I mean if i'm going to spend that much I want one of the other cards

[modest shuttle]

there's a few cards around $750, but most have been raised to $850-1000

[woven moon]

i got a nitro+ 7900xtx so I'm in no rush to get one lol screw that. for that price I want a nitro or something

[karmic frigate]

I'll make a refund, if the availability will become even just marginally better in the coming days, and they will not offer me rebait.

[modest shuttle]

it also sucks that most of the brands for 5070 tis have bad reputations

[karmic frigate]

I really like the founders cards from nvidia, but getting them is a pain from what I know

[modest shuttle]

spend $800 and have to RMA with MSI/ASUS/Gigabyte/Zotac....probably gonna be a bad time

[karmic frigate]

You are doing good lol.
The only reason I'm not going for an older card is because I'm a dev, and I want to play with AI a bit, so I need the new AI cores

[round imp]

how soon did you find out if your order didnt go through with newegg if they had too many orders?

[karmic frigate]

First time it was 40 mins. today I got a message within around 7 mins

[round imp]

ohhh ok. so i think im in the clear..... (continue to pray to the computer gods) Its been over an hour now

[woven moon]

I have my reasons for wanting the 9070xt. Some think i'm crazy for waiting to pull my current card out for it.

[karmic frigate]

Is it still saying payment processing for you?

[round imp]

It shows as packaging.

[karmic frigate]

Ahh you are in the clear then

[woven moon]

you should be fine

[round imp]

I was literally getting into the state of mind to buy a 7800...

[woven moon]

kind of annoyed cause i swear my order went in before my sister's and mine got canned and her's made it.

[modest shuttle]

its funny how best buy has the white swift at $750 and black one at $600 while Newegg has the white at $600 and black at $750

[keen flax]

I like that it's the least busy looking design haha

[sleek willow]

Would it be worth upgrading to a 4K monitor with the 9070 XT, or stick with 1440p?

[karmic frigate]

Lol, to be fair it might also be related to how banks process payments.

[karmic frigate]

Ya same on newegg btw lmao

[karmic frigate]

I like the gigabyte one as it is a bit more covered

[modest shuttle]

i should probably cancel, not sure the swift is worth $760

would rather have the hellhound at that price i think

[karmic frigate]

Yaa even $700 is a bit of a stretch

[modest shuttle]

i mean $700 is the realistic MSRP, but still

[karmic frigate]

$700 is already a stretch as all the marketing material used $600 price point as comparison

[woven moon]

no the msrp is 599. It was set by amd. Partners don't have to agree to sell it at that. But that's the msrp.

[modest shuttle]

an msrp that is only obtainable at a single store chain that exists for a fraction of the planet aint the real msrp

and ill die on that hill

not to mention only 11 of 39 cards available from ALL retailers were at MSRP

[woven moon]

msrp is the manufacture suggested retail price which is set by the manufacture. lol Don't know what to tell you but that is what it is. Albeit its SUGGESTED. Also they sold them at that price the other day they just raised the price today.

[karmic frigate]

Well I agree with you to an extand, but you it isn't like they will advertise like it is $730+ They will continue saying it is $600

[woven moon]

Which is also why they don't have price match on that card.

[karmic frigate]

Ya no he is thinking of it as more of a minimum price for a card. Which it technically kinda supposed to be as it is what we culturally think of when talking about MSRP prices. Thats also the reason why we get pissed, when no one is selling the cards for MSRP

On paper, and logistics wise msrp is a different thing tho ya

[woven moon]

I don't get upset. I just don't by. When you take a card that's built for msrp and make it 10 and 50 bucks less then your top cards... lol

[modest shuttle]

Zotac 5070 Ti's went in stock for $1000 and $1100 today lol

[keen flax]

Do you guys think MSRP will raise after tariffs, or did AMD take them into consideration for the current MSRP?

I've seen people say the latter

[keen flax]

But I think they'll pull out an excuse and raise it later

[modest shuttle]

they already have an excuse

they dont control the price, the retailers/aibs do

like the msrp defenders have already said here 😉

it's kinda funny how AMD seems to get a bit more leeway in pricing lies than NV

[woeful juniper]

God dammit this means I gotta get one now if I can

I wonder how much the "new" prices will be

[modest shuttle]

itll probably go to minimum $750-800 like 5070 tis

and the top end models will push 1k

[keen flax]

Lmaooo

[keen flax]

True lol

[keen flax]

Probably starting at $750 or smth

[modest shuttle]

considering they gave retailers a $50 rebate to sell it at $600, its already going to $650 minimum

[round wind]

Is there any news on restocks yet?

[keen flax]

I wanted a 5070ti but I can't justify paying basically $250 extra for 2-5% improvement

They're averaging at $940

[karmic frigate]

The card got released post tariffs

[raven wharf]

We are so cooked

[random walrus]

But they were shipping/stocking some of them before tarrifs

[karmic frigate]

Ya but I highly doubt that AMD would advertise msrp releases prices, that would litterly be impossible to sustain.

[random walrus]

I mean personally I'm all for companies pointing out the impacts of tarrifs rather than just hiding them within a silently inflated price

Not that AMD has explicitly called them out as far as I know

[livid idol]

Think of it this way guys.
The first shipment was made before tariffs were official, so those GPUs reflect more closely the actual price of the GPU.
Subsequent shipments are now subject to a 20% tariff. What's $600+20%? $720, which is what a lot of MSRP models are currently listed at.

[glass coral]

How’d it go I was at work

[woven moon]

lol you do know none of those proposed Tariffs are in effect yet. They are supposed to start in the next month or two.

actually they may have just went into effect. Hell its hard to know

but hey if anyone got a sapphire 9070xt nitro I'll trade you my xtx 😛

[forest oasis]

"next month" is already here
it was announced back in feburary that it would start march 4th
it is already march 10th

[random walrus]

Actually that might explain the AliExpress 5700x3d price hikes as well

$150 *1.25 = $187.5

Though it could also be the stock is dwindling idk

[cerulean rover]

There's more tariffs incoming April 2nd, and the Canada and Mexico tariffs are still on hold afaik

[forest oasis]

even more 💀

[modest shuttle]

yep, i bet in a few months ill be kicking myself for canceling the 9070's ive had ordered at $750

[keen flax]

I can't find them for those prices 😦

Cheapest I can get is $236 from a reputable seller and in stock

[woven moon]

Yeah, you might should have kept that.

err that was wrong reply

[woven moon]

Might should have kept that card. Depending on what you already have.

[modest shuttle]

I wasn't married to the Swift/Quicksilver at $750. I think if I am going to pay that much I mine as well get a Hellhound or Red Devil/Mercury for $50 more.

[versed kestrel]

I just want the Aorus or PURE. meanwhile the Hellhound Spectral is a ways away.

[karmic frigate]

Ohh no it would definitely not be that bad, you would definitely be able to get it for $750 or less in 2-4 months.
The demand isn’t as high as 5000s, and it does not appear that there are any manufacturing problems with AMD cards.

[modest shuttle]

prices may be raised higher by then, if nvidia doesnt start releasing more cards, demand will be higher than normal

[keen nacelle]

LOL

[keen flax]

Should've bought for $170 on Amazon last year lol

The 9700xt is arriving tomorrow or Wednesday!

[woven moon]

Understand... same I was like no way I'm paying this for a card I don't like. Focused too hard to get my build looking what i consider is nice.

[dusk nexus]

GOT ME A CARD AT MSRP BABY!

(have to pay to have it shipped from NY to FL but hey still worth it!!)

[woven moon]

Congratz

[dusk nexus]

Thank you! Super excited for it

[odd siren]

YOOOOO

[dusk nexus]

Yea lol excited for it. Ended up getting the steel legend. Hoping asrock is doing a good job with these. It will go great with my steel series legend mobo too

[odd siren]

Those are fine

I believe they're downbins but for msrp they still perform excellently

The challenger (CL) was the one I was worried about, not steel legend

[dusk nexus]

So the tachi is better?

Was the pulse down binned?

I had a buddy go for the pulse but in the 10 mins it took him to get there they sold over 50 cards and this is what was left lol

@odd siren

[odd siren]

Pulse isn't binned either no

[odd siren]

Taichi better yes but 12vhpwr so awful

Steel legend is a good one imo

Msrp >>>>> any binned card

[dusk nexus]

Ight cool I liked the white color too so I was happy to get it for msrp

[finite raptor]

Daaaammm... Wich card and what store?

[dusk nexus]

Steel legend. Had a friend snag it on restock at MC in NY

[finite raptor]

Wish I had a friend next to an MC store, congrats mate. I'm quite jealous

[dusk nexus]

Gonna cost me like 50-60$ to ship it down but still better then the Newegg prices so I’m all good with it

[dusk nexus]

Thanks man I appreciate it I’m real excited to get things thing working

[random walrus]

That seems awfully expensive if you're shipping US->US

Unless you're like paying your friend extra for their time I suppose

check
https://ship.pirateship.com/rates

[dusk nexus]

That’s what UPS was plus insurance on the item

[random walrus]

Oh additional insurance, didn't think of that

[dusk nexus]

Yea I mean I think that was like 10$-15$

And they charged like 10$ for a box or something idek

[woven moon]

i'm going to drop by microcenter for the heck of it on thrusday its 2 hours away so.

[raven wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-gif-13062150862685254762

@odd siren

pulse when

[burnt ivy]

Got everything. Might need to learn the clock thing but yeah. Starting working on it tomorrow

[raven wharf]

for msrp hopefully?

[odd siren]

I will post when I get it

[burnt ivy]

Hopefully, still not sure qhat it mean.

Learning

[forest oasis]

Manufacturers recommended sales price

Wait

Why is the acronym in that order

Wait

Ohh

I remembered it wrong lol

Manufacturers suggested retail price

[burnt ivy]

Huh, so the price that the manifacturers suggested?

If I am not wrong

Don't know for canada.

[forest oasis]

Around $800 cad it seems

[burnt ivy]

Alright, I pay 889 dollars plus taxes

Not that bad?

[forest oasis]

So like 620usd

[burnt ivy]

Yes, plus taxes

[forest oasis]

It's cheaper than a fair bit of the models in the US afaik

Though their prices are probably higher due to the new tarrifs

[burnt ivy]

Don't think it was affected yet when the launch happend

Plus I save at least 400 dollars

A build that I was planing to build fir 3500 ended for 2500

Still think of maybe buying a extended storage for games like flight simulator which takes a lot

But that put of suggest for this channel

At the got lucky on launch.

[odd siren]

Iirc 889 in Canada was more or less msrp up there

[odd siren]

You could if you want

Klevv c910

It's the default ssd storage rn

[karmic frigate]

https://videocardz.com/newz/radeon-rx-9070-xt-outperforms-geforce-rtx-5080-in-cyberpunk-2077-and-3dmark-after-undervolting-3-3-ghz-clock-reached

This is pretty nice

Turns out under volting 9070 xt oc results in it being comparible to 5080

[keen flax]

Nice!

[solemn panther]

Wh

[odd siren]

Let's not forget the XTX being slammed with 700W gave it 4090 numbers in cyberpunk

Being able to do this without an EVC though is still noteworthy

[versed kestrel]

gigabyte aorus 9070xt + 9800X3D, 1000W good enough?

[odd siren]

Overkill

850W is fine

[versed kestrel]

👍

[keen flax]

C'mon UPS pick up the card lol

Do I use the same AMD ryzen app for Radeon drivers?

After I DDU Nvidia drivers

Wait no, it should be this one right?
https://www.amd.com/en/products/software/adrenalin.html

[hidden pawn]

hey guys quick question, bagged the gigabyte 9070xt, it requires a 3x8 connection. I have a corsair 750e with two cables attached to it currently, would i need to add a third connector or could i just use the adapter that supposedly comes with it? new to pc building so not sure

i’d prefer to just use an adapter as the wiring and stuff could be kinda confusing

[forest oasis]

adapter?

you can use these 2 cables to power your gpu

[karmic frigate]

Same lol

[hidden pawn]

but wouldn’t I need 3 of them total?

I don’t have one of those double connectors I’m pretty sure like in the bottom pic

[karmic frigate]

A bit annoying that it takes UPS 3 days to ship from Ontario to LA

[forest oasis]

should be included with the psu, looking at the rm750e

[hidden pawn]

Gotcha, I think it may already be plugged in

[forest oasis]

from ontario CA to LA, CA. USA?

[karmic frigate]

Yp

[hidden pawn]

I believe I do have one of the straight ones that’s on top

[karmic frigate]

sdoijgvsd

Wai

No

[forest oasis]

that's east coast (almost) to west coast lmao

[karmic frigate]

Both are in CA

[hidden pawn]

but wouldn’t all 3 need to be the split one? like the 3x2 type

[forest oasis]

oh

why is there a place called ontario in cali 💀

[karmic frigate]

Cuz 'Merica

[forest oasis]

literally ontario CA (canada) and ontario CA (california)

[forest oasis]

wdym

[livid idol]

The same reason there's a London,TX

[forest oasis]

💀

[hidden pawn]

wouldn’t all 3 connections into the GPU need to be that 6x2 connector that’s in the bottom image?

[karmic frigate]

55 km away from LA

[hidden pawn]

or could I just use a normal 8 pin alongside the other 2

[hidden pawn]

Gotcha okay

Thanks for the help!

[keen flax]

That's how long it's telling me too

But I'm slightly further away than you.

[keen flax]

I'm about 5000kms from Ontario lmao

[shrewd jetty]

Hello, I will be responsible for you. I live in Turkey and I want to come to America and buy a graphics card. Where is the Newegg store address? Where can I buy a graphics card? Can someone help me buy a 4070ti super graphics card?

[modest shuttle]

must resist combo deals....

not even that bad of a deal, just a stinker of a psu

[junior locust]

P sure the RM750e is not bad

It's A-tier on Cultist

Just overpriced in the bundle

Tbf

With tariffs

That's more like actual price for both

720 for GPU, 90 for PSU

[sleek willow]

Is the ASRock steel legend a decent card?

Or ASRock in general

[junior locust]

They're okay

Afaik

Tho it depends on the generation

[modest shuttle]

this one seems even better, wonder if I could sell it for half price and get some money back

but if im gonna pay $850 i probably shouldve just kept the magnetic air

[junior locust]

It's...

Essentially the same

RMx and RMe are very close to each other

RMe is only slightly less "ideal" (still very good)

[modest shuttle]

they need to hurry up and sell out so i can stop being tempted lol

[junior locust]

RMx is golden A-tier, RMe is blue A-tier on Cultist iirc

[junior locust]

Yeah so both are good

RMx is only different in that they guarantee exclusively using Japanese parts (which is apparently preferred)

While the RMe doesn't guarantee that

They still are made to the same RM standard

[modest shuttle]

Just dont need a PSU so I'd have to try selling it, not sure what the market for that is like

[junior locust]

Fair

[modest shuttle]

im also still on the fence about just waiting for a 5070ti

[verbal scaffold]

When was the last time they had 5070ti in stock?

[modest shuttle]

the telegram channel im in usually goes off 5-10 times a day

[verbal scaffold]

Oh okay! Thats good to know. I hope ill get lucky soon

[modest shuttle]

if these stupid bundles werent sitting out there i wouldnt be so tempted

[dusk nexus]

I just got the 9070xt from them it arrives on Thursday. I’m hoping it performs well

[dusk nexus]

Just curious why the 5070ti vs 9070xt?

Is it more due to RT?

[modest shuttle]

there's very few scenarios where the 9070xt outperforms the 5070ti as far as i can tell, even without RT

[dusk nexus]

Is the value proposition not better tho? It’s about 8% worse for for like 30-40% cheaper

[modest shuttle]

maybe, im basically perma-stunlocked right now with analysis paralysis

[dusk nexus]

That’s fair I saw the MSRP 9070xt come up yesterday so I snapped it up

Otherwise I was in your boat too

[modest shuttle]

i could buy this bundle for $850, sell the PSU for $60-100, get the card for $750-800, then sell my 3080 and recoup 3-400

or just wait for one of the other cards to come around for $730-800

[dusk nexus]

Well isn’t that roughly the same thing?

[modest shuttle]

yes, which is why i am wondering if waiting for a 'higher end' card is the better option, more boost clock, more power pins for OC headroom and maybe 'cooler' looking

[dusk nexus]

So the question becomes how much do you wanna deal with selling it?

[dusk nexus]

Ahh well only you can really answer that. You could always rock the 3080 and see if any refreshes happen or extreme models before the 60 series

I settled on that if I couldn’t get MSRP

[modest shuttle]

Well thankfully all the combo deals just went OOS

weird that they all went at once

unless there was a huge delay

but theyve been up for at least an hour or two

now theyre back lol

with some cheaper ones

[dusk nexus]

They tempting you lol

[modest shuttle]

yeah the cheaper ones they added all got snagged

[vale ore]

Finally. After months of waiting. I refuse to pay scalpers.

I can now play, create AND generate. That's like three for the price of one.

[keen flax]

Nice!

What would the Nvidia or AMD equivalent performance wise would be for the b580?

[cosmic bluff]

Have oculus/meta vr been updating for arc?

Remember the alchemist lineup didn’t like oculus/meta drivers previously

[odd siren]

Still don't afaik

@raven wharf my pulse is ready but I'm picking it up tomorrow

[cosmic bluff]

Rip on the arc cards again

[modest shuttle]

Seems no one wanted to spend more than $799 on the bundles, all the $800+ ones are still there 😄

[plush garden]

Should I buy the 5070?

I have a 4060 rn

[modest shuttle]

What resolution do you game at, do you use ray tracing?

[plush garden]

i play 1440 and never tried it

[modest shuttle]

4060's dont even make the benchmark list

[random walrus]

Don't quote me but assuming drivers are playing nicely I believe it is in between a 6700non-xt and a 3060ti, with more vram than the 3060ti

[plush garden]

so should i ?

[keen flax]

Ohh okay that sounds very good if it's msrp

[random walrus]

Yes at MSRP (and if you have a capable cpu) it is very good value

[modest shuttle]

no one can decide for you, use the data available and make your own decision

[plush garden]

well give me your opinion lol atleast

[random walrus]

50 series is only worth considering at msrp, which is hard to get, and even then it's not great value. You could look at used cards or go for a 9070xt

[modest shuttle]

he asked if he should get a 9070 lol

[random walrus]

^

[modest shuttle]

hmm maybe it was an edit or i misread

[random walrus]

He did edit it

Idk what it originally said

9070 is aight but the 9070xt is much better value

[modest shuttle]

5070 non ti is terrible value, 5070 ti is realistically overpriced and basically not possible to obtain

[plush garden]

what i edited was a the ?

[modest shuttle]

i misread then

[plush garden]

lol

[modest shuttle]

unless you buy used or overpay, itll be 3-6 months before 5070s are realistically obtainable anywhre near msrp

[plush garden]

would any of those go good with my cpu anyway i have the ryzen 7 7800x3d

[random walrus]

Any gpu will go good with that lol

[modest shuttle]

the 9070xt would likely slam dunk all over your 4060

[random walrus]

It absolutely will

[modest shuttle]

while its less overpriced, its also tremendously difficult to get one unless you want to buy a kekw bundle from newegg

[plush garden]

how much is the 9070xt

[modest shuttle]

supposed to be $599, but models go from $599-850

[random walrus]

Still a decent buy up to 700 or so then it's ehh

[modest shuttle]

the odds of getting a $599 model if you dont live close to a microcenter are next to 0

and the odds of getting one at 700 or less are barely higher

most retailers have already hiked the prices above 700

and the ones below are the most targeted by bots, scalpers and real people

[covert parrot]

when will microcenter even restock the 9070xts? The one nearest to me online has no stock rn

[modest shuttle]

without an announcement, no way for us to know

AMD reps say asap, but that could mean anything

[covert parrot]

yea ig so. Gpu stock just sucks rn, i tried for both this amd launch and the 50 series got nothing like most other ppl lol. I was there on the exact time but u just cant beat the bots

[modest shuttle]

yep, doesnt help that newegg hordes cards for bundles

[keen nacelle]

9000 series launch reminds me of 40 series launch

50 series launch reminds me of stock during the pandemic

[modest shuttle]

yeah this all feels exactly how it felt during the 3X launch

although I was able to get 10 cards during the 3X launch so this is likely worse

but newegg also used shuffle during 3X, but they seem to be unwilling to use it for this

[keen nacelle]

Imo i think 9000 series stock will normalize fairly soon, albeit above msrp from tariffs

Whereas 50 series stock i don't see improving as fast, and imo will still have higher pricing because nvidia is nvidia

Amd doesn't have as much of a market share in non gaming areas for gpus, but nvidias main profits are from AI cards

[odd siren]

30 series had way better stock

It was priced worse however

[modest shuttle]

9070xt same price as my 3080 😄

[odd siren]

I'm in two minds about this

Both tsmc

[modest shuttle]

no GPU stock is normalizing anytime soon

not while AI is ramping and ramping and ramping

[odd siren]

You know what I reckon lol

I reckon we'll have too many iphones first

Apple is the biggest buyer of tsmc rn iirc

[modest shuttle]

they cant produce stuff fast enough to keep up

[keen nacelle]

Thats true, but amd already had a ton more stock than nvidia has from what I've been told

[modest shuttle]

consumerism goes hard these days on top of large scale purchasing like AI

[dusk nexus]

word, not sure if im happy or sad about that tho. technichally its a tier lower right?

[modest shuttle]

the 3080? yes, but with inflation and tariffs its reasonable

[odd siren]

3080 is like almost half as fast

[dusk nexus]

no its about 41% uplift from what ive seen at 4k

[odd siren]

It's 18 to some 30

[modest shuttle]

3X series launched right when crypto mining was dying

[odd siren]

So that would be like

66%

[dusk nexus]

ahh your doing it reverse

[odd siren]

But overclocked the 9070 can double a stock 3080

[odd siren]

Ah ye mb math moment

Lol

[modest shuttle]

i could sell the 3080 for ~400 and get a 9070 for around $400

[dusk nexus]

all good my man been there before haha

[dusk nexus]

i got the EVGA ftw3 when i retire it imma mount it since they arent around anymore lol

[modest shuttle]

thats the card i have

[keen nacelle]

I have an evga xc 2080 ti

[odd siren]

I sold my 3080 and 3090

[keen nacelle]

Well a 2080 ti with a 2070s xc cooler on it

[odd siren]

Both still work tho afaik

[modest shuttle]

my boring ugly build

[dusk nexus]

what do you do to have a 3080 and a 3090?

[keen nacelle]

Ok those gpu cables hurt me

[modest shuttle]

lol

watches YT and twitch just fine 😉

[dusk nexus]

they look better than mine lol

mine come under the bottom

[keen nacelle]

They should :p

[modest shuttle]

idgaf how it looks cause no one cares how it looks unless i show pics to randos on the internet, no friends so who actually cares

[keen nacelle]

From the top is just disrespect /j

[dusk nexus]

lol maybe so but idt you would approve of how close they are to the bottom fans

[modest shuttle]

but im going to go in the complete opposite direction if i do a full build for the 9070 and go all out and do something crazy like this

[odd siren]

Try routing them from behind the front fans just to upset more people

[dusk nexus]

now that looks insane

[modest shuttle]

im too lazy to even mess with it, the radiator is also mounted incorrectly and the tubes should be on the bottom

[odd siren]

Tubes top is fine

[modest shuttle]

i love the idea of pc building but when the time comes to do it, i hate it

[dusk nexus]

lol bro same

[odd siren]

In fact many cases are too big for aios to run tubes bottom

[odd siren]

Fully aware

[versed kestrel]

what fans are these

[odd siren]

I've used dozens of aios, built plenty of loops

Tubes top is fine

The only proviso is the pump isn't at the top of the loop

And even then that's not a perfect statement

[modest shuttle]

Not sure completely but, These fans have a distinctive ringed LED design, which suggests they could be from a premium brand like Lian Li UNI FAN SL120/SL140, Corsair QL/RGB series, or Phanteks D30/D-RGB series.

[odd siren]

Some aios run pump in rad so top mount still happens despite what people think

[modest shuttle]

If there's one thing I've learned since looking at doing an absurd build like this, it's I am going to pay half a builds worth just in fans

8 Lian Li's is like $400

[odd siren]

If you shop smart you can avoid that

Uni fans and l connect are only expensive for the convenience or specifically the lcd's

If you're just after the general look there are a bunch of substitutes

Thermalright and sama both come to mind

Pay 4-12 per fan instead of 50

No l connect issues with those either unlike lian li

[modest shuttle]

Yeah, I did some research on alternatives. I figure I should focus on getting the GPU first

[odd siren]

I agree

Iirc the ones I'm thinking of are thermalright m12 (m12-s?) And sama y1203f

[modest shuttle]

Something like this is kind of my goal

[versed kestrel]

thats def lian li

[modest shuttle]

But probably with this case

[modest shuttle]

Yep, when I first researched this case I realized my ambitions come with a price tag

Ive also heavily contemplated doing a white build for the first time

[dusk nexus]

question how big of a difference in OC are the base models vs the increased power ones?

ive seen some pretty insane results from UV/OC on the 9070xt mercury

[modest shuttle]

i think thats largely tied to silicon lottery or whatever

[odd siren]

Y1023f iirc does have a good degree of this look

So that would be like $4 per fan instead of the lian li meh-ness for like, $35 per fan?

Lol

[modest shuttle]

Ive found some AsiaHorse versions but theyre out of stock most places

[odd siren]

Depending on if they're binning there may be some extent of a performance difference

And yes XFX is known for good binning

Their swift cards are in that category too

[dusk nexus]

of good bins?

[odd siren]

(Really wanted a swift [sob] anyway)

[modest shuttle]

I cancelled a swift today at $760

[odd siren]

Yeah

[dusk nexus]

do we know how asrock normally does?

[odd siren]

Not worth unless sub 720 at absolute most

[odd siren]

Middle of the road

[dusk nexus]

i didnt even know they made GPUS lol

[odd siren]

Sapphire tends to do well

[modest shuttle]

other than the white swift on newegg and the black swift on best buy, not sure its available below 720 anywhere

[solemn panther]

oooo

[odd siren]

Xfx does great

Asrock meh

Asus meh

Powercolour does well

[versed kestrel]

Giga has the best warranty

[modest shuttle]

one of the craziest builds ive seen, cant even find the exact fan models and the cpu block is weird af

[dusk nexus]

sapphire i assume is good too, everyone seems to love them

[odd siren]

Giga I have like never seen a good bin lol

[odd siren]

Ye

Xfx tho is always known for good asic samples

[dusk nexus]

asic?

[odd siren]

I really wanted a swift, sad I couldn't get one but it wouldn't fit

[raven wharf]

weak mentality

[odd siren]

The radeon term for silicon lottery

[modest shuttle]

Here's the fans, found it https://www.newegg.com/jonsbo-za-360b-case-fan-360mm-argb-led/p/1YF-00EV-000G6?item=9SIAY3SKCJ3724

[raven wharf]

itd fit if you really tried

and by really i mean forcefully tried

[odd siren]

Ah yeah, 46 is not bad there

Way better than unifans

Jonsbo quality is as good or better than lian li too

[modest shuttle]

i didnt know you can just buy a 360mm block of fans lmao

[raven wharf]

those are jonsbo fans in that picture? they look amazing

jonsbo is sleeper brand ngl

[modest shuttle]

yep, just found the post on reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/radeon/comments/1j898ig/bought_a_new_case_and_fans_to_go_along_with_my/#lightbox

[dusk nexus]

ahh ok. i ended up taking the asrock bc that is all that was left (at MSRP) after the MC restock. legit had a friend there in under 20 mins it was crazy

[versed kestrel]

i like their mobos. decided to get their gpu this time only regret is not getting a sapphire

[odd siren]

I've been saying jonsbo is better than lian li for like 2 years now lol

[odd siren]

Msrp >>>>> binning

Always.

[modest shuttle]

case is SSUPD Xhuttle Black

[raven wharf]

i dont care for how you can see the individual lights

other than that they are really cool

[dusk nexus]

what is AMD chill? i think i heard some random CC mention it in a vid the other day but ive never heard of it

[modest shuttle]

i wont see that when my machine is on the floor 😄 just gotta take a better angled picture for the dopamine on social media 😄

[raven wharf]

reduces fps

i should say limits

limits fps in games therefore making gpu take less power therefore less heat

i think

[modest shuttle]

im so afraid of gigabytes reputation online, i know its probably not that bad, but damn is it daunting

[odd siren]

Think of it like a power saver mode, limits performance to a set fps

[dusk nexus]

thats really funny. the dude was saying its a "one click over clock" but didnt explain what it did. i assumed by the name it did like an auto undervolt

[modest shuttle]

my biggest gripe with the 5070's is i dont love any of the brands now that EVGA is gone

[dusk nexus]

guess not

[odd siren]

Their gpus are fine just treat them like glassware cos their warranties suck

Well

They suck in US

In AU I wouldn't have minded a gigglebit

GB here is actually not bad lol

[modest shuttle]

but I have an MSI mobo that had a reputation and it's been stellar, granted I havent done anything with it other than plug it in

[raven wharf]

my biggest gripe with the 5070 is that it is a 4070 super in disguise

[modest shuttle]

well yeah that too, but who's paying $1800 for 4070s

if i was going to get a 5070ti id probably aim for an MSI

[odd siren]

I'd take any at msrp and nothing more

[modest shuttle]

but my wishlist for the 9070 is down to the hellhound, red devil, pure and pulse.

i have the white swift wishlisted on NE but thatll never be a reality

[odd siren]

I debated a red devil

[modest shuttle]

ive accepted that I am paying $750-800 for one of these cards, so Im going to get one of the ones i like

[odd siren]

I could get away with it, but that gemstone from the demon cauldron marketing is a severe turnoff lmfao

[modest shuttle]

If i get another chance at a mercury, I will probably eat the cost there too

[raven wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/zalaad-gif-10933451705657595850

powecolor using chatgpt

[modest shuttle]

Id go for a nitro but the power connectors are a turnoff for me

i think most of the 9070s are pretty mid in terms of looks

[raven wharf]

honestly this is real

[odd siren]

Best looking is pulse/pure by a mile

[versed kestrel]

i liked the sapphire pure but i never caught a restock

[odd siren]

Lmfao

I'm glad I got one

[raven wharf]

nitro+ looks good, same with pure

powercolor's are weird

yeston is yeston

[versed kestrel]

i don't like the champagne nitro+

[raven wharf]

xfx made them weird this time round

[versed kestrel]

the hellhound spectral when it comes out will be nice

[modest shuttle]

i think the backplates on most of the cards look better than the actual cards

[odd siren]

My favourite rn is pulse pure for sure

Though the xfx ones with rgb I see why they did that now

You can't tell there's any rgb strip until it turns on

It's supposedly very well hidden

[modest shuttle]

excluding the waifu cards of course, ill shame anyone who has those

but the coolers are mildly interesting....if you like pink and sea shells

also just noticed the waifu cards are $900

[odd siren]

Sea salt included

[modest shuttle]

annoys me that the swift is different prices in different colors depending on the site

$130 more for white or black is a joke

[modest shuttle]

i like the pure but not sure if i want to be locked into a white build

[odd siren]

That's not my call lol

White builds are nice

[versed kestrel]

do a panda build

[modest shuttle]

such a cool backplate

[odd siren]

I pick up the pulse soon

[modest shuttle]

im contemplating it, i have a ton of dust in my house so it will look a lot less dirty if i do a white build

[dusk nexus]

i grabbed the steel legend at MSRP. wanted the pusle but this is all that was left so i took it MSRP is MSRP (shrug)

[modest shuttle]

steel legend looks too weird for me 😄

backplate is cool though

[dusk nexus]

lol i have the steel legend MOBO so itll match

[modest shuttle]

nitro backplate is sick too

but those power connectors arent for me

[dusk nexus]

idk i think its pretty lol

i actually hope the fans are NOT those colors tho

[modest shuttle]

the colors are offputting to me, it reminds me of old CRT style tvs when the connection cuts out and it gets all weirdly colored

[odd siren]

The fans don't look like that unless you try LOL

[modest shuttle]

its a weird choice to show the colors like that tbh

[odd siren]

You can set a normal colour I'm sure

[odd siren]

Asrock does it on absolutely everything

[dusk nexus]

Lmfao I don’t care if they are off long as the card works

[modest shuttle]

theyre just clear

[odd siren]

Would sell 10x better if they didn't even show rgb in marketing

[odd siren]

[modest shuttle]

pretty solid in a white RGB build

[plush garden]

why cant i buy the 9070xt rn or the 5070?

[modest shuttle]

First time?

[odd siren]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[modest shuttle]

This is how GPU launches are now, get lucky or wait 6 months

Or be rich and just buy off scalpers

You can also buy a bundle on Newegg and get a PSU you don't need

[dusk nexus]

Lmao hey at least the psu is strong enough for the GPU

[modest shuttle]

Tbh the Corsair psus aren't bad either

They're a tier on cultist network

Blue and gold tier

They're just not $120 psus

[odd siren]

There's a new list

ZTT list

Cultists is out of date

Has some firebombs listed incorrectly as well

[modest shuttle]

I bought one of the bundles earlier but cancelled, if I'm gonna pay that much I'll just buy one of the more expensive cards

They had some reaper bundles for $680, should've just done that

[plush garden]

link?

[modest shuttle]

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007709 601469161 4812&Order=1

[solemn panther]

https://tenor.com/view/yesyesyesyesyes-jojo-gif-8822335

[modest shuttle]

I'm sure it's cause it's tied to a business but I swear the mods in this server are the least cringe of any discord I've been in lol

[pseudo badge]

Gigabyte RTX 5080s are available rn on Newegg.

[modest shuttle]

Oh boy only $1600

[odd siren]

💀

[solemn panther]

why, thank you

[covert parrot]

crazy

[modest shuttle]

It's strange seeing mods act normal and be relatable 😂

[keen flax]

Yep lmao

[keen flax]

Fr lol

[solemn panther]

Hm why yes

[modest shuttle]

I thought about it for a brief second

[keen flax]

Nahh

At most I'd spend $1100 for one

Not $1600

I was looking at eBay 5070ti sold listings just for fun

And it's ridiculous how much people are paying for them

[modest shuttle]

It's why scalpers are so prevalent, the whales outspend everyone else no matter the medium

[odd siren]

Think it's largely in part cos most of us know each other for ages now and we're largely self-regulated

Lol

They also don't pay us

I'll recommend anything if it even looks mildly worth it

Free worms? Hell yeah

Let's go fishing maybe

[modest shuttle]

I'm used to being insulted and berated by mods for everything

[keen flax]

Yep

[keen flax]

You said cpu in the gpu channel

BANNED

And its so refreshing for it to not happen here haha

[modest shuttle]

It's fun when mods patronize you over opinions about things that can't be proven one way or another

[odd siren]

Been in a few discords like that, I personally try to avoid sparking stupid interactions

I might step in a lot to give my two cents but I don't mind free speech or different opinion if it's not like, blatantly bad lol

Not even talking from a mod POV just in general

Cos everything in PC space is ultimately subjective under any objective means

[random walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

politics in #general-chat

[odd siren]

"There are no bad products, only bad prices" - Anandtech (Someone mentioned this recently)

[odd siren]

Yeah wanna get on my goat fast? Do that lol

[random walrus]

🐐

Wait is that actually a saying

Don't think I've heard that one

[odd siren]

It might be something we only say here haha

"Get on my goat" means like, "tick me off"

[random walrus]

Upside down ahh phrase

https://tenor.com/view/grinds-my-gears-peter-griffin-seth-mc-farlane-family-guy-gif-1236149375205084885

[livid idol]

Here the phrase is "get your goat", it's always interesting seeing regional differences like that.

[modest shuttle]

9070xt doesnt like wukong

also nvidia reportedly announcing new 5X cards tomorrow, while not being able to maintain any level of supply for the existing cards. nice

[odd siren]

Yeah wukong is a terrible sticking point for amd with RT involved

Tragically bad honestly

[dusk nexus]

So question about upscaling. It If I were to use upscaling at quality settings at 4k could I expect to get something near the render of 1440? Ik there is overhead cost of the upscaling but I’m curious about a rough estimate

[junior locust]

I believe that's because it uses a specifically nGreedAI-optimized branch of the engine

like EXPLICITLY made to run on RTX cards

[modest shuttle]

that kinda stuff seeps into my mind when looking at AMD gpus

[junior locust]

I mean IMO the game itself is pretty crap

[modest shuttle]

most of the internet disagrees 😄

but its not my style of game anyway

[junior locust]

I did not enjoy the little I played it

[modest shuttle]

just one of those things where its clear nvidia's market share size

[junior locust]

media just hard simped it because it was made in China

[modest shuttle]

media hard simped it because it was good lol

a lot of media was against it because it didnt have enough DEI type stuff

[junior locust]

AAA games in general largely suck anyway lately

[modest shuttle]

still has a 96% on steam with almost 1 million reviews

[junior locust]

they either:
-run like 💩
-uninspired in gameplay and content
-end up filled with microtransactions/battlepasses/subscriptions

Some do all three lmao

[modest shuttle]

Yeah, I dont really expect any games to run well anymore

[livid idol]

4k at quality upscaling renders at 1440p but the end result is image quality between 1440p and 4k

[odd siren]

https://youtube.com/shorts/EXkgnaO24j8

Idk how people can still defend nvidia when I see stuff like this

[modest shuttle]

interesting, either all the bundles sold out at 4am EST or they pulled them and are going to change something

[livid idol]

But the nvidia drivers are more staaaaaable ||/s||

[woven moon]

The prices have been removed to me

[modest shuttle]

virtually no drops today, the well has dried up

[dusk nexus]

Ok and performance would give something between 1080 and 4k then?

[wary agate]

Saturday Asstral 90 arrives

Frick yeah

[modest shuttle]

combo wombo's are back

[livid idol]

Performance is slightly worse than 1440 and memory usage is a little higher due to overhead from the processing

[dusk nexus]

Oh cool ok so not the worst thing in the world if there was a few games that needed it.

I’m trying to decide if I wanna commit to a 4k display. I’m kinda leaning towards it with the 9070xt. I don’t play a ton of triple A games and I’m not against using FSR (especially seeing how good it’s looking currently) I also don’t use RT

[sleek willow]

I'm currently doing mental gymnastics over this as well lol

[dusk nexus]

1440 vs 4k?

[sleek willow]

Currently I use 1440p IPS displays, but wanted to jump to OLED. I am unsure if I should go for 27" 1440p or 32" 4K with the 9070 XT. I only really see benchmarks at ultra settings. This GPU seems like it could be a 4K card but also debatable. I haven't seen medium settings or FSR performance I guess

[craggy pier]

Ngl with 16 gigs vram, id lean more into 1440p

But both are possible np

[cerulean rover]

You can give it a couple of days and usually people will do the most random benchmarks on YouTube for new cards and check them out

[craggy pier]

^

[cerulean rover]

I'd lean towards 1440p OLED, you do not get much more out of the extra pixel density at 4k, and the main upgrade will still be switching to OLED

[craggy pier]

For sure

[sleek willow]

That's what I was thinking. Best performance out of the 1440p resolution with the big step to OLED

[craggy pier]

1440 is still extremely good, my literal only complaint is 1440p is a bit more prone to aliasing

Other than that hardly much reason to pick 4k

Text too ig

But

[cerulean rover]

I feel like a small downside is that media isn't always made for 1440p, usually it'll either be 1080p or 4k, but 4k -> 1440p generally looks fine

[craggy pier]

4k into 1440p is fine yee

Honestly i wish 1440p was more standardized on general media than 4k

[cerulean rover]

It would be nice but 4k is already such an entrenched standard in TVs and monitors already that I don't see it happening much

[dusk nexus]

1000000% my exact boat. I don’t want OLED tho lol

[sleek willow]

I'm just not sure the 9070 XT pushes enough frames to justify the jump yet. 1440p would be solid though

[craggy pier]

Obviously it never will, ill just feel sad about it

[cerulean rover]

Would not consider 4k if you're not considering 1440p OLED lol
1440p144+ IPS is like half the price of 4k144+ IPS, the only thing that makes the price of the monitors similar is 1440p OLED being similar to 4k144+ IPS

[craggy pier]

I would rather have a 1440p 180hz OLED than a 4k 240hz IPS panel

[dusk nexus]

I already have 1440p 165hz so the question really was could the card do do 4k at like medium settings no Rt and FSR

[cerulean rover]

I would too but yea

[random walrus]

A lot of the 1440p oleds are 240hz as well iirc

[cerulean rover]

I'm happy with 1440p OLED, I don't have any concerns with getting higher pixel density

[craggy pier]

1440p OLED is such a sweetspot in so many places it's genuinely hard to beat

[random walrus]

I don't see much of a reason to get a 4k monitor unless you're editing (4k tv is understandable)

[dusk nexus]

Dont know if im ready to do OLED. Ik burn in protections exist but idk gotta let that go i guess

[craggy pier]

Burn in wont affect you

I promise

Well

[cerulean rover]

I'm as lazy as can be with burn in protection and we'll see how long it takes for me to get burn in lol

[craggy pier]

At least not in a time period that matters

[cerulean rover]

Just remember that rtings found that image burnt on for MONTHS with the same exact thing were mostly recovered from a refresh cycle

[hidden pawn]

i have a g80SD and I love the monitor

[dusk nexus]

Fair enough. Which 1440 oleds would you guys recommend I’ll look into some. I also think the white pixel oleds are gonna be out later this year (if I remember correctly)

[craggy pier]

Ill also say burn in tests are usually done at brightnesses that people never really use

Just dont blast that screen to anything insane

[hidden pawn]

look up the rtings reviews

also if youre on a budget, look at fb marketplace

got a $1200+ G80SD essentially brand new in box for 700

[craggy pier]

Modern OLEDs' lifespans under normal use will last around the same time as any other monitor when it comes to burn in

[dusk nexus]

Ight will do. I don’t use FB (any social media really)

[hidden pawn]

facebook marketplace is so OP man

got a viperV3 pro for $50, apex pro mini wired for $40, headset is a cloud 3 wireless for $70

can save so much money

[craggy pier]

Also most people who are buying oled monitors also have dark backgrounds on browsers, discord etc

[hidden pawn]

if you have $ to throw then you can get new but yeah

[dusk nexus]

Yea I force dark page on everything

[craggy pier]

Gamer peripherals 😨 (although at least theyre the nicer quality ones, not bad choices for rgb hell)

Buying used tho is the route for sure

[hidden pawn]

tbh its my first setup and i just wanted the best of the best

[craggy pier]

God i saw a pair of original sennie HD600s going for 200 on marketplace with minor foam damages and i was so sad i couldnt buy it

[hidden pawn]

hey @craggy pier had a question, so I have a gigabyte 9070xt arriving this saturday, i have a 750w corsair gold power supply that currently has 2 split 6x2 cables running out of it

since my new gpu requires 3, would i have to put another wire in the power supply or

could i just get away with using an adapter or something that allegedly comes with the GPU?

[cerulean rover]

If you can use 3 separate cables, that's the best case scenario, if not, use 1 single cable and 1 daisy chained cable

[hidden pawn]

no idea what daisy chained means, but i'll take a look into it

@red hamlet would also appreciate your help

[red hamlet]

Notice how they're all connected together. They're daisy chained

[cerulean rover]

What exact PSU do you have? Rm750e? Rm750x? Tx750m? We can just point to the exact cable lol

[hidden pawn]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/psu/cp-9020248-na/rme-series-rm750e-fully-modular-low-noise-atx-power-supply-cp-9020248-na?srsltid=AfmBOorO_hM_Wl_LU2O7l27lnmgPAYsoaZ5B_y7r-qTllM5ED5AFrVdA

[hidden pawn]

Gotcha, I was moreso asking about which cable to use

[red hamlet]

idk I don't have the context lol

(nvm I just scrolled up)

[hidden pawn]

this^

Yeah haha

I already have the two split cables plugged in that were powering my old 7800xt

just wondering what i need for the third connection

[red hamlet]

How many pins do you need for the third connection?

Should either be 6 or 8 pins

[hidden pawn]

https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Graphics-Card/GV-R9070XTGAMING-OC-16GD#kf

this is the one i have

[red hamlet]

Gotcha so triple 8-pin

Did you get a third 8-pin or 6+2-pin connector with your RM750e?

[cerulean rover]

This one, with 2 separate 8 pins on one end, this is the daisy chained 8 pin cable

[hidden pawn]

https://assets.corsair.com/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/akamai/pdp/rm-2021/cables/eps-atx12v.png

so this is the other one that i have, the extra

would this work? the power supply comes with two of these: https://assets.corsair.com/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/akamai/pdp/rm-2021/cables/pcie.png

[red hamlet]

yes

[cerulean rover]

That should be the one in the image

[red hamlet]

You can have the extra 6+2-pin connection hanging off. It doesn't have to be plugged into the GPU

[hidden pawn]

or do I need to order another one of these^

[cerulean rover]

You don't need to buy any more

You have what you need

[hidden pawn]

so the one in the link at the top is good?

[red hamlet]

They're the same

[hidden pawn]

oh gotcha

[cerulean rover]

You will be using 1 cable with 8 pin on the PSU side to 1 8 pin on the GPU side, plus 1 cable with 8 pin on the PSU side to 2 8 pins on the GPU side

[red hamlet]

lol you're talking about this, aren't you?

I don't even see the difference. No point in showing two different images lol

Apparently one of them is just shorter

[hidden pawn]

I guess my question is, is there any difference between this split cable and a 4+4 cable?

[red hamlet]

If they're both for PCIe devices (should be labelled for you), then no, no difference

[hidden pawn]

yeah one of them says PCLE

gotcha sounds good, thanks a ton guys

my friend was the one who built the pc for me, going to be interesting opening the back up to access trhe power supply and stuff

[red hamlet]

pcLe?

should be pcie

PCIe

[hidden pawn]

yeah PCIE sorry

thanks a ton for the help

[cerulean rover]

4+4 is for CPU only

[hidden pawn]

Card arrives friday

[cerulean rover]

6+2 is for pcie only

[hidden pawn]

i have a 4+4 that says PCIE

[cerulean rover]

4+4 should be labeled CPU or EPS

Check the pin count

[red hamlet]

You should have two of these

[hidden pawn]

Yup I have two

[red hamlet]

Yeah just use both of those

[hidden pawn]

Wait pause

[red hamlet]

There will be a 6+2-pin dangling from the GPU (this is fine. There's just no power going to that plug lol)

[cerulean rover]

Spec sheet said 1 daisy chain 1 non- daisy chained

[hidden pawn]

I don't think I have any that has 2 daisy chained together

At least from what I'm looking at

I think I'll open this thing up on Friday the day my card comes and take a look

[red hamlet]

I mean if you have two cables that split into two 6+2-pin cables, then you're good

If not, you'll have to get another cable

[cerulean rover]

This is the cable that the reviewer found in the box for rm750e, double check.

[red hamlet]

You need two of those

[hidden pawn]

Yeah, let me check and see

[cerulean rover]

You need one of those plus either another one of those or a single 8 pin to 8 pin

[hidden pawn]

I already have another 8pin x 8 pin, if nothing else I could just use that right?

[red hamlet]

Yeah

[cerulean rover]

From rm750e review

You have all you need

[hidden pawn]

Gotcha perfect

I just took a look at the cable I have, it technically is a split since I can move the 2 up and down

I was looking at the wrong side

the PCIE is what you plug into the GPU right?