graphics-cards

[dusk nexus]

looks like 3 days ago they had already passed 8 million sold

[keen flax]

same

[keen flax]

I was one of those victims

[dusk nexus]

LMFAO

[rustic pulsar]

Is this PS2?

[dusk nexus]

like what are we looking at that cant be pc right?

[odd siren]

It's wilds delivering that nostaglic ps2 experience yo

[dusk nexus]

but how was that even signed off on

[peak swift]

They knew it would sell anyway

[dusk nexus]

sad that its come to that

[craggy pier]

and this is why i get to rest easy knowing my money aint getting wasted LOL

because i dont buy on fomo

[odd siren]

I wait a few months for every game now

I have zero trust

[keen flax]

Has capcom officially said anything about this?

[craggy pier]

calling it elden ring syndrome

[dusk nexus]

to bad there arent more studios like larian, GGG

[odd siren]

I'll be honest idk

[dusk nexus]

day 1 they were telling ppl to be sure to have the latest drivers

[shut quiver]

@craggy pier yo

the monitor u recommended me

this is my current one

https://a.co/d/1seksvA

is it even much of an upgrade

[keen flax]

Atleast I didnt pay full price lol

[dusk nexus]

its 1080..

[craggy pier]

now, why LMAO

[dusk nexus]

i wasnt paying attention but im about 90% sure he recd a 1440

[shut quiver]

oh no, does that mean its bad

[dusk nexus]

its not the same resolution

[craggy pier]

oh is that the one you already own?

[dusk nexus]

ohhhhhhhhh

[craggy pier]

if youre asking if you should buy that, not with a 32 foot pole

[shut quiver]

yes

[dusk nexus]

now im the one that is braindead...

[shut quiver]

i already have it

im typing on it rn

[dusk nexus]

(facepalm)

[craggy pier]

youd definitely enjoy an upgrade w/ your 9070xt

[dusk nexus]

i think its the non xt

[craggy pier]

regardless

even on my gre it almost maxes out 1440p value

on a 9070xt you hard chillin good

or 9070

just turn that 1080p into a second monitor

[shut quiver]

yeah its the non xt, but like is it even a worth upgrade, that mlknitor i currently have, and then this one u told me to get

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7QsV3C/acer-nitro-xv275u-p3-270-2560-x-1440-170-hz-monitor-umhxxaa302

[craggy pier]

thats the setup im rocking, 1440p main 1080p secondary

[craggy pier]

its way more value than anything else you could pair with your 9070 honestly

[shut quiver]

how dumb of a purchase is my current monitor?

it cant be that abd

bad*

[craggy pier]

if your cpu can run ofc

[craggy pier]

how old is it?

[shut quiver]

my cpu is gonna be the 9700x

[shut quiver]

maybe likee

4 years

i think

nearly 4 years

at least 2 years is what i knowo

[craggy pier]

just ask ping @ thetruebacca the day you plan on buying your cpu for a link to 7700 off ali

its official

[craggy pier]

nah itd be fine then

not the craziest value at the time but still plenty good

[shut quiver]

i already bought it

at microparts

[craggy pier]

oh oop

how much you pay?

[shut quiver]

lemme check

269.99

and ofc tax

and it becomes like

[craggy pier]

See if you can return it

[shut quiver]

286.19

why

[craggy pier]

If not its still fine

But you can grab an equivalent chip for 170

[shut quiver]

what would that chip be

[craggy pier]

7700

[shut quiver]

yeah but thats for gaming

i need productivty along with it

[craggy pier]

Its marginal loss in perf, thats better suited for your 9070

[craggy pier]

Hm fair

Your call really

I do adobe and blender on a 7600x no prob

[shut quiver]

can it run papas pizzeria

[craggy pier]

💀 yea probably

[shut quiver]

what about 2048

https://play2048.co/

[burnt ivy]

That game, I remember playing it in class.

[forest oasis]

it cant

the number crunching is too intense

[blissful folio]

lol thats wild, looking at the 9070xt prices two cards both selling on amazon by scalpers one being 1400 the other being 1800

[odd siren]

Yeah the msrp ones got sniped fast

I got it added to cart like 5 times but failed over here

I was logged in and everything

[blissful folio]

I have a gigabyte aorus master 4090, got it for around 1950 around 2 years ago, its currently going for 4k. my heart goes out to the peeps looking to upgrade their cards in this current market

[odd siren]

Stay with that

I have a suprim I got for 1750

[blissful folio]

siiiiiiiiiiiick

[odd siren]

They sell 5090s here for like 3.3K

It's an absolute joke market

[blissful folio]

thats absolutely absurd

[odd siren]

Yeah man, 4090 owners made bank this launch

Stay on that card there's nothing worth upgrading to rn outside of a 7800XT, 7600 or msrp non existent launch stock

[blissful folio]

that and imaginary cards LOL, there totally wasnt a 5000 series launch

[odd siren]

It's wild west rn

Lol

[blissful folio]

why the 7800xt is going for 1100 is beyond me

[odd siren]

I see them for 520-530

The only card that seems stable rn

[blissful folio]

found one for 489 lol

used tho

so nevermind

i clicked on the link from pc part picker for the card thats supposedly for 1100, the price on amazon showed 489. the 1100 price is because it was coming from germany

[odd siren]

Yeah it's messed up rn

There's some refurbished cards floating around

Like a 490$ 6950xt gaming x trio earlier

[blissful folio]

man i just dont know if i could trust refurbished cards. I feel like you're playing triple roulette

[odd siren]

We've had very rare issues with refurbished

More common you get doa ram or power cables lol

Zotac for example has lots of refurbished 40 series, their stock originally was sent in pretty rudimentary boxes

Had one card arrive bent

[blissful folio]

sheeeeeeeeeesh

[odd siren]

No padding

Just, box

[blissful folio]

yikes

[odd siren]

4080 btw

[blissful folio]

thats even worse lol sheeeeesh

its surprising at how people treat their products so poorly for the amount of money they spend on it

[odd siren]

The ones handling it get paid basic wages

Capitalism at it's finest hour

Lol

But this is why warranties and replacement legislation exists, they get amended in these situations

[blissful folio]

ahhhh gotcha

[odd siren]

Ye it exists for these things especially

Laws that go beyond warranty to protect a buyer

[blissful folio]

too bad they dont protect against scalping

[odd siren]

Unfortunately lol

[raven wharf]

ima be honest

these aren't it

like they are cool

[blissful folio]

huh?

[random walrus]

I like the left one honestly

[odd siren]

Left one reminds me of 7000 reference

[raven wharf]

yeah thats what i thought when i first saw the promo art

the side facade looks like the reference 9070xt

but it just isnt it

wish they made those cards lol

[raven wharf]

@odd siren when does your pulse come

has it shipped

[odd siren]

Hasn't

[frail oak]

Nice paper launch by Newegg on the 9070XT. I was on at 8AM EST and nothing was in stock.

[modest shuttle]

they did an announcement here yesterday for another drop in the late afternoon and pretty much no one saw them ever go in stock

if only they had a system they could have used to discourage botting and scalpers, a lottery of sorts, call it a shuffle or something........oh wait

even better was being charged for a card from a successful order then having it cancelled an hour later

but this is the reality of online ordering, if you cant write code or buy a bot/script for purchasing from someone, youll never stand a chance

because the retailers refuse to do anything to help the consumer because to them the money is all the same

[frail oak]

The honest buyer always gets screwed. I saw people price gouging the 9070XT for $1,500.

[modest shuttle]

Yep, GPU market will be like this for the rest of time

[frail oak]

Just saw an article that the 9070XT for $599.99 MSRP won’t last long. But we all knew that already.

[modest shuttle]

one of the AMD executives said MSRP will remain but only for certain areas

it'll likely only be available at MSRP in person at micro centers

OverClockers in the UK said they cant afford to sell them at MSRP after the first shipment

lol newegg already raising past msrp

listed at 599 yesterday

[keen flax]

Oh wow

[craggy pier]

my gre sitting pretty will marginally less performance

7090xt honestly isnt even great value for most people purely because of the effort it takes to even grab one

unless youre a lucky microcenter customer

[forest oasis]

though also to be fair, we probably would have a shortage of amd gpus if they did sell at msrp

as long as the prices drop to msrp or lower after all this craze ends, i'll be happy

i might even upgrade at that point

[modest shuttle]

there was going to be a shortage either way

gpus will never be readily available on launch

and the price wont go back to msrp for months, if ever

AI will make GPU's scarce forever

[peak swift]

Yeah this is just what happens when one of the two big players has a paper launch

[dusk nexus]

So got my coil whine to go away.. had to turn the shadows and water quality to low. Everything else can stay at ultra kinda insane

Also random question I have an old 1060 6gb that I kept from my first build. Is it worth selling? Seems like new they are listed for 350$ but that seems ridiculous

[modest shuttle]

depends on how willing you are to deal with FB Marketplace/Reddit/Ebay

[peak swift]

Someone with a 5090 might buy it for a physx card lol

[craggy pier]

Morons buy it for that price 😭

[keen flax]

So games that use physx run worse on 5xxx cards than on older ones?

[left quiver]

How much can I sell my old gigabyte 2080 oc for?

[peak swift]

Yes

Well to be more specific, a subset of physx games run worse

It's confusing. There's hardware physx vs software physx, 32bit cuda vs 64bit cuda. People have made lists though, just google if you want to know which specific games would run worse

[keen flax]

Damn I wonder why they haven't been able to make it run as well virtually

[keen flax]

Thanks, I don't think any of the games I play or am planing on playing use physx though

[peak swift]

They could do it, they just don't want to support 32bit cuda anymore

[livid idol]

And by "worse" what you really mean is "unplayable" because it runs at 10 fps because they need to process the physics on the CPU in the most inefficient way possible

[peak swift]

To be fair, that's how physx always worked with AMD cards

Don't get me wrong it sucks that they didn't it this soon and without telling people beforehand, but I don't think its that big of a deal

[livid idol]

You can't play Batman Arkham Asylum on a 5090

I call that a moderately big deal, imo

The physics were always broken in that game to begin with

[peak swift]

I thought you could turn physx off

[dusk nexus]

Fair I don’t even use Fb that’s why I never got rid of it to begin with. Figured if I could get like 100-200 back for it that would be decent to put towards either a new GPU or monitor

[livid idol]

That only disables some of the features like cape flowing

[modest shuttle]

i cant stand selling electronics, hate dealing with people trying to scam/trade or are just generally braindead when it comes to etiquette

[dusk nexus]

yea thats fair. ill just mount it on the wall or something lol

[livid idol]

You sound like a good candidate for a Jawa.gg sale. They take care of most of the logistics and have better selling policies than eBay.

[modest shuttle]

That might be something I will look into, I am terrified of selling higher value items on ebay. I feel like people can just say it never arrived or was broken and get their money back leaving me with nothing

[light radish]

Since I couldn't wait for the GPUs, I decided to sell my current PC and put that money towards buying a pre built (there are plenty of pre builts with 9070s and 9070 XTs for sale)

[solemn panther]

👀

[random walrus]

err

Patience is a virtue I suppose

[modest shuttle]

fomo gonna fomo

[light radish]

I'd probably be way better off just waiting but I'm just not the most patient for this kind of thing

[modest shuttle]

what are the specs of your current pc that you sold/selling

[light radish]

6700 XT, 5700X3D, 32GB 3200 DDR4, 1TB SSD

[modest shuttle]

and the prebuilt specs and where is the prebuilt from?

[light radish]

From Skytech via Newegg.

https://www.newegg.com/p/3D5-000Z-002B0?tpk=1&Item=3D5-000Z-002B0

[random walrus]

14400 + 9070 is not worth $1350

Plus only 16gb ram

[light radish]

It is if I'm selling my current PC to offset the cost. RAM can be upgraded later. The massive GPU upgrade greatly outweighs the slight CPU downgrade

[modest shuttle]

i cant speak as i have a heavy bias against intel cpus these days

[random walrus]

I wouldn't necessarily consider 6700xt to 9070 "massive"

[modest shuttle]

i would think it would be quite a leap

most benchmarks from the reviews didnt even include a 6700

[random walrus]

And keep in mind ddr5 doesn't run 4 sticks well, so you'd need to sell the 16fb and buy 32

[modest shuttle]

although i see now its not an xt 9070

[light radish]

I've looked at comparisons between the 14400F and the 5700X3D and they're not that far apart aside from specific games like Baldur's Gate 3, but even then 14400F seems to beorenthan enough

[random walrus]

It's decent for sure but not worth panic selling your already capable PC and buying a prebuilt

[modest shuttle]

its less about what is supposed to be able to do for me and more about reliability, ive heard so many bad things about intel chips in the last few years it heavily causes bias in me

[random walrus]

Heck, with a 5700x3d you could just put a 9070xt in there

[light radish]

A base 9070 is still a pretty big jump as far as I can tell.

[modest shuttle]

it is, but all signs point to the 9070 only existing to upsell the xt

[light radish]

True but I'm selling my PC at $1000 so for me the new PC is really around $350. Compare that to trading in my GPU for a 9070 XT and I'm paying less overall. Only a few 9070 XTs would even fit my current PC, and those happen to be the ones that the scalpers are upcharging the most.

[random walrus]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qvVf2x
this gets you a better cpu, better ram (32gb), better power supply, likely better storage, and a 9070xt (@$700)

[modest shuttle]

lol newegg doesnt even tell you the mobo type in these prebuilts, wild

[light radish]

Issue there is that I'd have to wait for the GPU, at that point I wouldn't even need to be doing this

[modest shuttle]

what is the rush exactly? do you game professionally or have a job that relies on your machine?

[random walrus]

Ok so bro is just falling for FOMO

Waste your money however you want then, I'll peace out

[light radish]

Like I said I'm just very impatient. I know it's stupid of me but I'd rather pay a little extra to get it now than wait for months for the chance of possibly getting it for cheaper.

So yeah I guess it is FOMO

[modest shuttle]

To each their own, Im the last person who should talk about fomo as Ive made many fomo purchases in my life that I wish I could take back.

[burnt venture]

That’s pretty cold and unfeeling Microcenter…

I know it’s just an automated message. Still hurts tho!! Lol

[raven wharf]

microcenter tryna get u to buy over msrp

how they be looking

[modest shuttle]

I had one of those ordered yesterday too, but cancelled it as well

[craggy pier]

Apparently newegg canceled a lot of 7090/xt orders, i think to put em in prebuilts and bundles if I'm not mistaken?

[modest shuttle]

I had mine cancelled 45 minutes after ordering yesterday morning, my order was in a few minutes after the launch

which is especially ironic since they released more cards later in the day

[waxen elbow]

Okay nerds

Do I un install and clear my pc of all nvidia stuff and drivers before putting this sucker in?

[peak swift]

?ddu

[neat venture]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[waxen elbow]

Ty cutie patootie

do i need to have my pc in safe mode

[forest oasis]

need? no
recommended? yes

[dusk nexus]

same.. and wait did they really? thats total BS.

[modest shuttle]

yes they made an announcement here and right after the announcement they were all gone and no one even saw any

so they got botted most likely

[dusk nexus]

wow. thats really bs. i very much woulda rathered have my purchase "held in que" like i got the confirmation email and went about my day an hour later told nope and then everything was sold out. and i had no chance to do anything else

[modest shuttle]

they shouldve used their lottery system shuffle, instead of encouraging botting and scalping

[livid idol]

The shuffle only works when there's limited stock available. There were several hundred GPUs available, possibly over 1000.

The bots are just that fast though

[modest shuttle]

and yet, most people didn't get one

[waxen elbow]

Okay all set up, running mh wilds ultra settings ray tracing on at 165 -195 fps steady no stuttering !

[peak swift]

That's why I ordered a second 5070TI on launch day. I was worried one of my orders would get canceled

[modest shuttle]

i probably shouldve just kept the magnetic air and ate the cost

but im hoping if this nonsense goes on long enough ill just lose interest

dont need a new gpu to sit in discord all day

[sleek willow]

Are there any signs this GPU situation improves in the near future?

[modest shuttle]

no, just empty words from AMD reps saying 'we will restock soon'

and since theyre being scalped to hell already, itll be several months before they stop being botted for every shipment

[sleek willow]

Feels weird to just have nothing on the market outside of scalpers these days

[modest shuttle]

thats what happens when retailers enable that behavior

and people paying scalpers

[sleek willow]

Yea I refuse to give them money. I'd rather play in 1080p

[modest shuttle]

a few sapphire pulse cards hit amazon earlier for $950 from a scalper and they all sold instantly

seems people will pay for the XT way over MSRP but not the base models

the non XT asus cards are listed for $1800

[sleek willow]

Always baffles me because I don't know anyone who would pay something stupid like that

[modest shuttle]

fomo makes people do crazy things

there was someone in here earlier who sold his entire pc for a prebuilt just to get a 9070 non xt

it was an upgrade over his existing machine, but not good value

but he flat out said fomo makes him do stuff like that

i had the magnetic air ordered for $850 because i fomo'ed, but people here convinced me it's stupid to pay that much and i cancelled it

[modest shuttle]

btw do you have a microcenter near you?

[sleek willow]

Unfortunately no. I have a Best Buy but they are useless

[modest shuttle]

ah bummer, microcenter is the only realistic way to get one without getting mega lucky, waiting or buying/writing a bot/script to auto buy

and its going to be the only way to get them at msrp

[sleek willow]

Yea that's what it seems like. In person is definitely a better option to combat the bots

[modest shuttle]

and newegg already raised the price on one of the only models available for the msrp price

ive yet to see any of the msrp cards on amazon even for a second

so only three cards online for under $700 realistically

everything else will be $730+

[sleek willow]

Not a great time for GPUs lol

[modest shuttle]

and if you dont like gigabyte it goes down to 2

[modest shuttle]

its real annoying how cards come up on amazon and have all the purchase options but it just fails every time

i should go find a bot to buy

[waxen elbow]

so DDU didnt remove a lot of nvidia stuff, why

still has al the containers and everything

[dense grail]

To me, that’s AMDs downfall. The card will sell well at $600 but if only $750+ variants are available then it’s game over. When the 7900xt hit $650 over the summer they started selling.

[modest shuttle]

I think most gamers dont actually use data now, they just want the 'better' card and dont care about value proposition or cost per frames. With how quickly theyre selling out, even the most expensive models, I dont think most people care about the price enough to let ~$200 sway them.

It seems similar to games with cash shops. Voting with your wallet is basically useless because whales will always outspend the rest.

Everyone in this server told me I was dumb for paying $850 for the magnetic air, but everyone in a different server I am in says I was stupid for cancelling the order.

[peak swift]

I thought "vote with your wallet" was a meme

[modest shuttle]

and since Nvidia shows no signs of improving their situation, all the fomo people are going to flock to these cards.

[modest shuttle]

it pretty much is

[sleek willow]

In hindsight we all should have just bought during black friday. If you need the upgrade I can see someone buying a card if they were able to actually get one purchased. I am sitting on a 3070 8GB right now, so it would be nice to upgrade. I wish they would have kept the previous generation around instead of stopping everything all together

If you were forced into online purchases, who is the best online retailer these days?

[modest shuttle]

for gpus youre basically tied to Newegg or Amazon

you can get lucky on sites like B&H photo or Best Buy, but theyre very few and far between

[peak swift]

There's a lot of combining factors that get us here, its not as simple as "gamers don't care about price"

[modest shuttle]

Sure, I wasnt talking about how we got here.

I was addressing TopCorn's comment about how it's game over for AMD if the only available cards are the $750+ ones.

[peak swift]

Oh I read that as more for AMD gaining marketshare over Nvidia

So I didnt realize thats what you were responding to. My mistake!

[modest shuttle]

lol no worries

the gpu market is absurdly complicated, especially with how demanding AI is for GPU's

I think GPUs will squeeze the market more than crypto ever could

Its why Microsoft and Facebook want to hook up their AI to a nuclear reactor

[peak swift]

Yeah I think its just less clear now. Before we could see miners competing for the same cards as gamers, now the competition is in fab time

That's how we end up with Nvidia's paper launch

[modest shuttle]

yeah and the scalpers/bots have had several releases now to refine their system

I just wish retailers/manufacturers cared more, but I completely understand why they dont.

[light radish]

I made two mistakes. Firstly, I made a mistake in thinking anyone living in the middle of Kansas would be interested in buying a gaming PC. Second was buying the new PC before selling the first one. So most likely, I will now be stuck with two PCs. At least I get to have a 9070....

[modest shuttle]

one of the most bruh moments of all time

seek help for that fomo

also if you ordered that PC today you can cancel it

[light radish]

It says it's too late to cancel (can't cancel when it's at "packaging")

I'll manage. This way I could put one of them in the living room or something

And who knows maybe someone will buy my PC in the next few days. Only just put up the listing this morning. I'm just impatient

[modest shuttle]

Is there anything I need to know to use this site? It looks like I can get around $500 for my GPU, wouldn't mind giving it a shot.

[livid idol]

It's because they still make money no matter who buys it

[livid idol]

Nothing in particular. It's pretty easy.

They'll take a cut of the sale, like any other auction style site

[keen flax]

https://www.newegg.com/asus-prime-rtx5070ti-o16g-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-16gb-gddr7/p/N82E16814126756

In stock

But for $940...

[peak swift]

It's like every time you look the price gets higher...

[keen flax]

Yup

It's just wild

Like I definitely want to get either one of them

But there's no way in hell I'm spending $900 for a 5070ti lmao

Most I'd do is $50-100 over msrp if it's a good version of the card

But that one is $940 and it's not even a high end version of it

The prime is supposed to be a MSRP model right?

[peak swift]

I think the OC prime started at $900

[keen flax]

Oh really? Still pretty expensive for a 5070ti

[peak swift]

Asus prices have mostly been high from the start

[modest shuttle]

Asus too 🤢

[keen flax]

Yep

[burnt venture]

There’s a smaller chain of “computer and electronics” stores in Texas called “Altex.” To me its more of an Installer’s supply house masquerading as a store. One of these stores is on my way home. Decided i’d stop in just in case there was a small chance they had gotten any 9070’s. As soon as i walked in, i was set upon by a salesman. “Anything i can help you find?”
“Just thought i’d stop in and see if just maybe you guys got some 9070’s in”. “Oh, uh.. maybe. <starts looking behind the counter where some motherboards are> have you found any 9070’s in here before?” 😂 “No, they just came out yesterday.” Found the one shelf that had any video cards on it. The highest/newest thing on it being a 3060ti. The only amd there was a vision tek radeon hd. Lol

Got plenty of server racks, chassis’s, UPS’s, cat 6 cables in every color, tools out the wazoo, etc. and the token ‘gamer’s gear!!’ A chair, a monitor, actually a decent selection of cases, tho!

So yeah, supply house disguised as a storefront, lol

[forest oasis]

lmao

[modest shuttle]

Just in case anyone didn't get this email

[keen flax]

Okay so March 10th 1pm est got it lol

I hope I manage to find an MSRP card

The power color reaper is a good card right?

It's the only one left at MSRP besides a white xfx swift, an asrock and a gigabyte one

Bc the black xfx swift, Asus prime and Sapphire pulse are up to $729

[modest shuttle]

Power color is supposed to be good, I think the red devil is the highest model

But I know next to nothing about that brand

[keen flax]

I almost got a red devil on launch but it was way to expensive $799

[keen flax]

That's what I've seen too

That it's very good

[modest shuttle]

Yeah the red devil is one of the most expensive. I've heard the MSRP on the more fancy models is higher than $599

Like the magnetic air xfx is supposed to basically be the best cooler which is why it's $850

I don't see how Monday will be any different, the bots will just scoop it all up

[keen flax]

Yup, but that's way too much for me hahaha

I've been able to almost fully check out with 5070tis but they're all to expensive

So I've just let them go

Like $979 for a gigabyte one

Or $950 for an Asus prime

If I find one at less than $800 I'd buy it instantly haha

[keen flax]

Yep sadly it'll be launch all over again but more expensive lol

[peak swift]

All my brother in law had to do to get an msrp card was get to Microcenter an hour early. So jealous of people with MCs

[left quiver]

hell i even got one at 3:00 pm at MC

[dusk nexus]

Are you serious ab the pulse?

[keen flax]

Also jealous lol

I think it would be cheaper to buy a plane ticket to a mc location and back than pay a scalper haha

[keen flax]

Yeah it's my favorite one of the "MSRP" cards

And yeah it went up in price at least on newegg

[dense grail]

How does anybody even beat out all the bots on Newegg?

[dense grail]

Which card did he get?

[dusk nexus]

Damn that’s bs MC still restocking at msrp. I spoke to a rep today he said he doesn’t know if it has an end date but they do not plan to adjust prices as of now

[peak swift]

Reaper

[keen flax]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

[keen flax]

Damn wish I lived near one

[dusk nexus]

Word I have family near a few. It’s cheaper to buy one there and pay for shipping

[keen flax]

Yep

I could go to the Brooklyn MC and get an MSRP card for less than $850

[keen flax]

https://youtu.be/SlqyoKkjqJ8?si=wmEro5_dt15pHnxb

[dusk nexus]

thats really funny actually

[modest shuttle]

Write your own bot that's better

[dense grail]

Oh, nice

[modest shuttle]

MC will be the only place to get these cards at MSRP, count on it

[dusk nexus]

100000% seems AMD has been trying to make this happen for public appearences

[modest shuttle]

Unfortunately AMD doesn't really control the pricing, retailers/AIB's kinda do what they want

[peak swift]

I wonder if they can keep the prices lower because they haven't sold as many (compared to the big online retailers)

I think the rumor is the rebate thing from AMD is only for the first x number of cards sold

[modest shuttle]

I saw a screenshot from Microcenter where cards that are 750-800 online are still $599. Im wondering if all online retailers are raising the price and MC is the only place following the MSRP expectation

or they just dont care about making the money and are selling at cost

[peak swift]

Apparently the retailers all bought these from the AIBs at a higher price. The $600 msrp seems like something AMD decided very last minute

[modest shuttle]

lol wtf

i tried posting a screenshot of the waifu gpu and it was blocked

[keen flax]

I know hahaha

[keen flax]

Lmao

[dusk nexus]

yea but i thikn for MC they are holding that for the "MSRP" models

[modest shuttle]

lol 5070ti in my cart on newegg for $990............tempting

[dusk nexus]

the price to performance isnt there but.. to be fair if your ok with spendign the 990 you can always try for another 30 days to get a 9070xt

[modest shuttle]

its a gigabyte so im going to hold off

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-gv-n507taero-oc-16gd-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-16gb-gddr7/p/N82E16814932767?Item=N82E16814932767

[dusk nexus]

i cant even look at it. my dumb a$ will be tempted to buy it too lol

[modest shuttle]

when i removed it from the cart it said 220+ people had it in their cart

[dusk nexus]

finally a 5080 in stock

[modest shuttle]

if it wasnt gigabyte i probably wouldve bought it

[dusk nexus]

i cant believe how much these things are

like the fact that the 5080 is selling for 1500$... i mean that means i could pay like 1200 for the 9070xt and its still a good deal. jeez

[modest shuttle]

huh they added another $599 card

how is that 70ti still available lol

hilarious that the 4080 super is better than a 5070 ti

finally it sold out

now i can stop being tempted

[keen flax]

Yep

I wouldn't get a 5070ti unless it's less than 800 lol

[modest shuttle]

lol well thats never happening

[keen flax]

Ik hahahaha

I'll keep holding on for an MSRP 9700xt 🥲

[finite raptor]

With GPU prices being ridiculously high. I'm needing to reconsider my choice for my GPU upgrade. I want to at least enjoy 1440p @ 60fps with path tracing for all current and hopefully until the next GPU release. I'm still using the RTX 3090 and is unfortunately not enough for 60fps. Should I buy a 4090 or wait till I'm able to purchase a 5090 at MSRP or even the 9700XT @MSRP?

[modest shuttle]

path tracing or ray tracing?

[finite raptor]

Path tracing is part of RT, but its an optional selection right?

[forest oasis]

ray tracing = 1 bounce
path tracing = a bunch more light bounces; much more accurate

movies use path tracing, but they take a full day per frame back in the day to process

[finite raptor]

Right wich requires a beefier card than what I have now 😭

[modest shuttle]

This is about all the info I can provide, this is 1440p with RT

[peak swift]

My 5070TI cannot do path tracing in Indiana Jones at 1440p

[finite raptor]

I'm surprised a 4080 is up there

I imagined 4090

[modest shuttle]

here's a different chart but only for one game

[peak swift]

It's from the 5070TI review, so I'm guessing they didn't think it was worth comparing to something like the 4090

[modest shuttle]

9070xt review*

but yeah

also unless you're buying used, plan to spend ~4k for a 4090

[peak swift]

And if you're buying used, expect to pay at least 2k

[modest shuttle]

4X cards are basically only for the rich now

[keen nacelle]

Once gpus are out of production, prices skyrocket

[modest shuttle]

ffs

most of the 5x cards pail in comparison to the 4X cards so its kind of a crappy situation

[finite raptor]

I'm willing to pay the price, but not at 60% of my entire PCs cost

[modest shuttle]

it's only one subset of data but like lol, 5070ti shouldnt be below a 4080, especially considering the cost

[keen flax]

What really?

[keen nacelle]

Considering 3070 ti>2080 ti, 2070 super>1080 ti, and 1070 ti>980 ti, the 5070 ti is an embarrassment

Same with the rest of 5000 series

5090 is cool but not at 2k

Well, maybe at 2k

[modest shuttle]

i was about to drop 1k on a 5070 but once i saw how far below the 4080 it is i couldnt

[keen nacelle]

One stayed in stock for close to an hour at $550 earlier from msi

[modest shuttle]

a 5070ti?

[keen nacelle]

Oh nah

Regular 5070

[modest shuttle]

sorry i shouldve added the ti

[keen nacelle]

Nah you're good

[modest shuttle]

there was a white 5070ti that was in stock for almost 30 minutes about an hour ago

$989

[keen nacelle]

Hard pass from me

There is still one at 980

[modest shuttle]

gigabyte seems to be the only one coming available frequently lol

[keen nacelle]

Oh nvm

Pcpartpicker lied to me

[odd siren]

Ew 899

[modest shuttle]

amazon keeps getting cards but it feels like getting a card from amazon is actually impossible

[keen flax]

Yep I've seen a lot of 5070's and 5070ti's in stock todat

[odd siren]

Ewwww

[finite raptor]

Wich GPU would you guys suggest for 1440p with Full RT? That's not ridiculously over priced

[odd siren]

4090 or 5090 are basically your only answers to "full RT"

[modest shuttle]

there's 9070 non XT's all over amazon for $1200-1800

[odd siren]

Yeah no that edit means not full

Lmao

[keen flax]

Lmaoo

[odd siren]

Path tracing is a gimmick rn, barely anything can feasibly run it, barely any game uses it

[modest shuttle]

you could argue basically all GPU's are overpriced now

[odd siren]

Yep

Except 7800xt

[keen flax]

This again hahaha

[modest shuttle]

sure the 9070XT is a great price, but that MSRP is actually a lie

and ill die on that hill

if your MSRP is only feasibly obtainable in a single store chain in one country in a very few subset of states, its not the real MSRP, its the sale price for anyone who was lucky enough to live near that store chain

[peak swift]

Path tracing has a wildly variable performance hit. I can do Cyberpunk path tracing no problem

[odd siren]

PT is a total gimmick

[keen flax]

Yup fully agree

[modest shuttle]

who knows what the future holds but if i buy a card this cycle it may be the last time i build a pc

[odd siren]

Hell I'll even say this: Some traditional rendering techniques can make games look good like PT, you just don't see it in AAA slop anymore

[peak swift]

I was kind of afraid this would happen. msrp has been fake for months in Nvidia land, now it's team reds turn for fake prices

[modest shuttle]

i think its disingenuous how many people are defending the msrp because it's obtainable at MC

[peak swift]

AMD did sell more units at msrp than Nvidia. But that's not saying much

[modest shuttle]

these are the only 2 cards i know of online that still have the actual msrp, and theyll never be obtainable unless they start using shuffle

[peak swift]

And there were people getting them from Newegg as well

[modest shuttle]

and they already hiked the price on the other 599 card

i guess best buy has two but GL getting one through them

[odd siren]

There's msrp still available here

In AU

I just checked

[modest shuttle]

and i believe they usually make you pickup in person, so again only if you have a store near you

but i havent bought anything through them since the 3X series

hopefully im back from my dentist early enough to watch the bots get all the cards monday

or maybe ill get to order one again only for it to be cancelled

i shouldve kept the quicksilver 9070 xt i had through amazon for $760

[odd siren]

Actually wtf one store still has an msrp pulse

Damn if I wasn't also down a phone on my account I could save $50 lmao

[modest shuttle]

damn best buy did a restock of the MSRP cards too

or that might be adding the SKU, not sure

[odd siren]

Actually I think I can still get that msrp pulse

👀

Brb

[modest shuttle]

i dont see those Yeston or Acer cards anywhere, must be specific to a certain region

👀

[odd siren]

Gross

[modest shuttle]

bruh the nitro+ is an absolute brick wtf

lol wow

[keen flax]

That looks so nice

[forest oasis]

That barely even fits

[modest shuttle]

Im really becoming a fan of these glass cases, makes me want to dump my Mesh 2

[forest oasis]

They had to build the case around the gpu

[keen flax]

Is the 12v connector on that faulty like on Nvidia gpus?

[forest oasis]

Same flawed connector, but I believe sapphire did add fuses and current monitoring

Saw something about that in their marketing

[keen flax]

I almost got one of them on launch day

It stayed in stock for like 20 mins

But I was worried about the cable catching fire lol

[keen flax]

Oh really?

[forest oasis]

Looks to just be fused
I don't think the 2nd point was related

https://www.sapphiretech.com/en/consumer/nitro-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16g-gddr6

[keen flax]

And is that enough?

[modest shuttle]

Im coming around to the look of 2/3 of the PowerColor cards, I may try for one of those Monday

[keen flax]

Bc I'd like to get a nitro+ if I get another chance

[keen flax]

Yeah, they're not too bad

The cheapest one looks pretty good, same as the hellhound

[modest shuttle]

the power draw on the nitro is one of the highest i believe

[keen flax]

the Red Devil is the craziest one tho

[keen flax]

Ah damn, my psu probably wont be enough then

Has nvidia fixed their drivers?

[modest shuttle]

let me try to find the power draw chart, cant remember where i saw it

this isn't the one I am looking for but it's a start

seems like 320-340w on average

[keen flax]

Thanks

Do you think 750w (PSU is a 2018 RM750x I got in 2020) would be fine for it with a 5600x w/o OC

I'll eventually upgrade everything else next year

[keen flax]

Thanks let me save these

[keen nacelle]

Yes

[modest shuttle]

From Sapphires website

[keen nacelle]

You could upgrade to a 7600/x, 7/9700x, 78/9800x3d and still be fine on that psu

[keen flax]

Thanks again, I really am clueless on calculating wattage

[keen flax]

Damn nice

[keen nacelle]

Your system aside from cpu/gpu will use less than 75w, leaving abt 675w for gpu/cpu

675-350=325, plenty for cpu and some headroom

[keen flax]

I think I would just stay with the 5600x untill I can buy everything else

If i find a cheap 5700x3d I would get that tho

[modest shuttle]

doesnt shuffle exist? why not just use it until a 'better solution' can be found

[keen flax]

But they're nearly extinct now haha

[keen flax]

right?

[keen flax]

And as for the 12v connector, how do I plug it in? Do they come with an adapter?

Something like a Y for it

x2 6+2pin to x1 12v

[keen nacelle]

Im not sure if the gpu will or not

[keen flax]

oh damn it's for x3 8pin lol

[modest shuttle]

i just realized that was in the first screenshot i posted too showing the power watt minimum lol

[keen flax]

Sorry haha didn't see it

[modest shuttle]

neither did i lol

looks clean af if you use the magniplate

[peak swift]

It isn't all that helpful
https://youtu.be/2HjnByG7AXY

[keen flax]

yup just saw this on the page

[keen flax]

it really does

[keen flax]

I'd need to measure if it fits with my radiator haha

[modest shuttle]

it's insane how big these cards are

4 slots is wild

[keen flax]

yep lol

[keen flax]

Oh really?

My current gpu's dimensions are these

The nitro +

It's a pretty big boy haha

It's almost 2 more inches longer

[dusk nexus]

if i cant get an MSRP i might just hold out and wait. ive seen a few videos of people talking about the last few times NVDA has slips like this and Jensen literally walked into meetings saying "who did this to me", i always forget it was literally his company so it seems he takes it personal. They were saying that NVDA typically responds with strong showings afterwards. Also some leaks that AMD might go after the 5080 with a card in Q2-Q3

[keen flax]

That's my plan as well

If AMD can make a 5080 competitor for like 799-850 I'd get that.

[dusk nexus]

100% same

hey so trouble shooting question, PC is displaying an image from the GPU but it seems like my system isnt recognizing my GPU any thoughts?

[keen flax]

yep

let's see how it goes on monday

[limber flax]

They already have? They didn't even have to release a new card for that

[velvet grail]

i feel like mounting it vertically inside the case is the best otpion

the m2 to x16 riser has 4 pcie lanes yay :]

[rich finch]

8GB!?!

[odd siren]

5060 is suggested to be 8gb and 16gb too

[keen flax]

But a new one haha

[heady turtle]

8gb is plenty for a 50 series card tbf

Same for 60 series

[rich finch]

Y’all seen the 9600XT?

[velvet grail]

gpu can't sag now

[echo flame]

Yeah also gonna be 8/16 gb

Idk I think 16 is too much for that card. Wouldn’t be using all of that but lets see how that will play in the future

Also think the 60 cards should be at least 10g

Selling an 8 gig card in 2025 is kinda brutal ngl

[dense grail]

There’s only one video and it’s by GN. Literally one person told this story. Steve is credible, but he admittedly heard this 3rd hand himself.

[dusk nexus]

the reference of what jensen said was more kinda funny. and that he might actually take these things personal when things look bad. but I think i recall Jay saying something about "failures" that thye had and then coming back with strong responses 2080TI to the 3080 with pricing and things like that. i could be wrong tho

[dense grail]

Jay might have mentioned something similar, I don’t doubt you on that. I am personally not expecting nVidia to change course. They knew there would be a shortage. This is their plan, why would they change it when they are charging whatever they want (I.e, the plan is working as they expected)

[dusk nexus]

they dont HAVE to do anything, but i also do think that this was a launch that people started to realize that NVDA is not the "good guys" and that potentially could hurt them. This of course only happens if AMD keeps up and intel figures out they are an actual company

[junior locust]

Arguably AMD already did go after the 5080

The performance difference is REALLY small for how much cheaper it is

Or rather AMD overshot competing with the 5070 Ti by ending up completely whooping nGreedAI in value

Cuz the 5070 Ti is IMO

[dusk nexus]

I think Moores law said that AIBs were getting briefed for a like extreme variant or something

[junior locust]

Honestly uncomfortably close in perf to the 5080

You can make an argument at least

[dusk nexus]

isnt this the smallest version of the 80 class weve seen? overly cut down i mean

[junior locust]

It's quite cut down iirc yes

The 4080 gets uncomfortably close without MFG

Like within 10%

So realistically a used 4080 is going to destroy it in value

5080 is not even close to worthy upgrade

[dusk nexus]

agreed. hopefully something changes bc being a pc gamer really doesnt feel good on the gpu front rn

[finite raptor]

Do you guys think the RTX 50 series prices will never go below MSRP?

[junior locust]

Most likely

[finite raptor]

Cause I think the 40 series have yet to do so

[junior locust]

nGreedAI has zero reason to lower prices

They have an effective monopoly

If prices change at all

They'll only ever go upwards

[finite raptor]

So we're stuck at paying scalpers prices?

[junior locust]

It's not "scalper prices"

It's pre-scalped by the manufacturer

Scalpers only come in later

[finite raptor]

Whats a decent price for an Asus RTX 5090 Astral OC with Tax & Shipping included. $5,200?

[cerulean rover]

$3080+tax

[finite raptor]

I wish I can get that lucky, I doubt I'll ever buy at that price

[cerulean rover]

Should not be paying off and encouraging scalpers when possible lol

[finite raptor]

I agree with you, but there really isn't anyway for us to get lucky enough

Being near a micro center might be the only way, but even that's a slim chance

I placed a bid on ebay for $4,800

[sleek willow]

Don't pay scalpers. I refuse to give them anything. Theoretically, scalpers would go away if there were no customers.

[random walrus]

Buying from a scalper is almost as bad as being a scalper

[sleek willow]

Honestly, I started using the HotStock app which hasn't been that useful yet because stuff sells so quickly (probably bots). There is also a discord server NowInStock which can be beneficial. I really just hope it all settles to where we can buy a card when we need and/or want one.

[peak swift]

I have joined a bunch of discords and stock tracking apps. I even managed to place a 5090 order at one point. The real issue is the price

It just felt bad looking at the over $3000 charge so I just cancelled

[sleek willow]

Yea that price tag is hard to swallow for one component. I feel jealous of the people that live near Micro Centers.

[peak swift]

At that point it would have been more expensive than my last two builds... combined

[sleek willow]

lol same

[echo flame]

Bro you better hope someone one-ups you because you are feeding the problem if that sale goes through

[echo flame]

I live very close to one and within an hour of another

They really need to open better spots

I am near two and there are many states that have 0

Doesnt california have like 3 or 4 locations

[echo flame]

At least amd msrp situation isnt as bad as nvidia

But partners are making really silly choices with their models

[keen nacelle]

Idk if this helps you
https://www.zotacstore.com/us/zt-a30820j-10plhr-r

[echo flame]

Let me catch my son paying 850 for the xt

[keen nacelle]

$400 3080 12gb

[echo flame]

Completely kills amds value proposition with that model

[peak swift]

California only has 1 microcenter at the moment. They used to have more, but they couldn't break into the market when Frys was still a thing

[echo flame]

Oh I confused the one that says opening as a third one

But thats the second one

Ohh it was new york

Bro they have 4 new york spots

[peak swift]

They have 3 Ohio stores

Granted that's because they started in Columbus

[woeful juniper]

Is it true that newegg is restocking the 9070xt tomorrow?

[echo flame]

Pretty sure

[woeful juniper]

Bet thank you

Damn I feel bad for y'all that are looking for the 5090 lol

Does anyone know what's the best kind of 9070 xt to get or are they all pretty similar?

[little kernel]

is Galax 4070 for 643 usd a good deal?

[peak swift]

whichever one is cheapest

[keen nacelle]

Depends on the market in your country

[little kernel]

4070 super is 786.02 to 844.66 usd

[keen nacelle]

Do you need an nvidia card?

7800xt, 7900 gre, and 9070 are worth checking

[odd siren]

Think the better way to pose this

What's the pc being used for @little kernel ?

Just games? Any work involved?

Which games or work if you know?

[little kernel]

I edit a lot

AE and that stuff

With complicated timeline

And ofc games

[little kernel]

yeah ive heard about them but im running out of patience

[keen nacelle]

If they're all more expensive then the 4070 is a fine choice

Just the extra vram on them is nice (and better perf on the gre and 9070)

What country are you in?

[modest shuttle]

9070xt undervolted by 170 mV

[little kernel]

saudi arabia

[keen nacelle]

Ah alr, yeah if the 4070 is the cheapest gpu around that performance go for it

6800xt/3080 would be good too if they're cheaper

[little kernel]

nah they are way too expensive

no wait not they only the 3080 idk about the 6800xt

this is ridiculous its about 1800 usd to 932

[keen nacelle]

Would have to look on the used market for cards that are no longer in production

[modest shuttle]

Has there been any word on if shuffle will be used tomorrow? Or open season for bots again?

[rich cedar]

I got a 3080FE for 450 USD

[little kernel]

Yeah

[little kernel]

Dayum how is that even possible

Is it used?

[rich cedar]

Yes but in excellent condition

Box and everything

It ships to

Tommorow

[modest shuttle]

lol now they raised the price of this by $100

12 of 39 cards across all retailers at MSRP

and its actually 11 because newegg changed the price after the video launched

[craggy pier]

AMD really fulfilling its paper MSRP after its microcenter exclusive paper launch

[odd siren]

I'm still not fully settled on this tbh

AU for once had brilliant access to msrp

The absolute 599 cards went fast but we had access to $620 pulse for like 3 days

I sorta am in two minds

[craggy pier]

Aud?

Joking btw

If only i were australian

Because the rest of the world got it pretty rough

[modest shuttle]

Im struggling to decide what cards to go for today. I know bots will get them all, but I want to focus on only a couple. All the cheaper models have lower clocks and lower power connections. Not sure if I am putting myself at a disadvantage or not.

[odd siren]

Aud it was like reaper for 1139 was actual msrp (This wasn't really inflated btw) and 1171 or so for pulse

[odd siren]

If you want no real disadvantage, best looking cards to me are xfx swift and sapphire pulse

But they all seem very functional, even the basic stuff like prime seems ok, just not as nice of a bin possibly?

The super premium cards do not look worth, I'd say nitro were it not for the 2x6 connector

The swift looks like the nicest msrp

[modest shuttle]

Here's the list I am tracking for today

[odd siren]

Xfx was selling the best amd asic chips at the lowest prices during rdna 3

Merc310 is actually fast af at the lowest price lol

[odd siren]

Skip quicksilver and red devil

Pure I've seen for like 50 upcharge in some places, it's just a white pulse

Not too bad

Swift is great, reaper fine

Pulse solid

Hellhound solid

Like I said if not for 2x6 the nitro would be the high end pick but alas

Quicksilver would be up there but that price is dumb

Paying for a similar quality but less intelligent design from xfx at a higher price

That would be how I'd interpret all those

[modest shuttle]

I wish both Swift's were the same price

[odd siren]

720 is the rough cutoff for XT 660-ish I would say for non xt

Beyond that you can def do better

And I say this cos we don't know what the adjustments are, whether tariffs are involved or not for US price changes

So a broader leeway I'm mentioning here cos that may just be how it is from now on for all cards

Hard to say

Especially with the trigger finger hovering over electronics rn from the white house

[modest shuttle]

Most seem to think the tariffs are already included in the pricing, but I don't know

[odd siren]

I have never believed that only hoped lol

[modest shuttle]

even GN says it is in his latest vid

[odd siren]

I mean unless you hear it from the horse's mouth tho

I like GN but it's a very rapidly changing situation

He's not textbook perfect (nobody is honestly)

Retailers may just use the tariffs as an excuse

Everyone's trying to gouge the market for every dollar rn

[modest shuttle]

I wish they'd use shuffle today, feels like bots will get it all again

[odd siren]

I might give some caution to you here

Given my position, I'd say maybe steer clear of newegg

There's nothing to say they won't cancel orders again

[modest shuttle]

oh yeah my expectations are as low as they can be for today 😄

[odd siren]

Try track best buy, local stores, mc if available

[odd siren]

Just making sure

My first instinct as well is msrp will be sniped fast

Aim a notch above and you'll improve your chances if it's only a handful extra

That's what I got away with here. Basically 620 pulse. All the 599 cards evaporated in minutes

20-30 is not bad for a guarantee and a preferable model

Oh wow it's probably not far away is it

I just realised the time

Good luck man

[modest shuttle]

Thanks, and thanks for the insights 🙂

[odd siren]

You probably already knew all that but yeah mentioning it anyway cos the bots will go for msrp first

[hidden pawn]

how accurate is this?

[glass coral]

Good luck y’all

[odd siren]

Accurate as of maybe 2 days ago

Though I'd consider it usa specific

[hidden pawn]

because I heard the prices went up

i doubt we’ll still have $599 cards at all to be honest

[odd siren]

Not currently known why, retailers will do anything to milk it

[modest shuttle]

there's only 1 card at 599 left on newegg

[hidden pawn]

Genuinely despicable

[hidden pawn]

Which one?

[modest shuttle]

white xfx swift

[odd siren]

Damn I can barely fit the 9070 XT in my current build lol

I messed the measurements slightly

On 2 cases

Capture card covers half a fan lol

[glass coral]

This is also pre tariff pricing too

[keen flax]

I'll need to go for a "normal sized" variant lmao

I dont think the nitro + fits with my rad

[modest shuttle]

theres no way to confirm this as of right now, many people have claimed these prices include the tariffs

[keen flax]

it'll have like a couple mm of clearance with it haha

[glass coral]

I don’t believe that for a second

[modest shuttle]

and plenty of people believe it so its just speculative either way

even GN claimed it as fact in a video

[glass coral]

Damn that’s crazy

Wild that the GPU market is like this now

[modest shuttle]

this is the cheapest GPU's will ever be again in our lifetime

so its only going to get worse

[glass coral]

Sad but true

[modest shuttle]

EVGA got out of the business for precisely this reason

GN also mentions that in his video

at one point they were making $4 per card

[odd siren]

Wouldn't do that one anyway cos 16 pin

[round imp]

If 9070 never is available for us due to over demand… what is the next best graphics card? I need a new one for gaming..

[odd siren]

7800XT has been reliably 520-ish

About the only one that can be argued rn in the current market

[modest shuttle]

im gonna buy the $850 magnetic air 😄

[round imp]

Is that the best because of the price or performance wise?

[odd siren]

Value, at 520 it's largely unaffected by the gpu climate

Everything else has a 10-20% tack-on for the most part

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/64qNnQ/xfx-speedster-swft-210-core-2-radeon-rx-7800-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx-78tswftfa

[round imp]

Ok. Thank you. I’m just not quick enough for a 9070. It would’ve been nice.

[odd siren]

It's ok

XFX cards are a little bit noisier than others but functionally they run well

[modest shuttle]

youre likely quick enough to make an order, but itll just get cancelled 😄

[odd siren]

520 is fine for that

[modest shuttle]

i wonder if chatgpt could write a bot for me

cracks fingers

[odd siren]

It actually did just

Ok that apparently works

[round imp]

Yeah I got the Instock app and this discord hopefully the gods will smile on me lol

[odd siren]

Copilot straight up sent me the code

LOL

it's turn of the hour

Heads up

[modest shuttle]

isnt the restock 3 hours from now?

[odd siren]

Is it?

[modest shuttle]

10AM PST is what the email said

[odd siren]

I didn't know I was just posting cos this was the time on launch day

I'm currently shopping cases lol

[odd siren]

I'm not even USA man

[lone pond]

Paying this much and not getting Fsr 4 is kinda sad

[odd siren]

I would have no idea

[odd siren]

The idea is that they can't get a new card

7800XT was one of the best value last gen cards

[keen flax]

true

[odd siren]

Won't beat a 9070 sure, but it's a good settle for second

[modest shuttle]

i feel like settling is worse than waiting, but i guess it depends on the situation

[odd siren]

That XFX is like one of the last cards that you can settle on a pre-tariff/50 series chaos price

Lol

Vast majority of the good ones were sold out and settled on a while ago now

Like the 620 7900XT

530 GRE

570 4070S

etc

[modest shuttle]

this is the first time ive seen Copilot beat ChatGPT, it gave me the code with a single prompt too

four prompts and chatgpt still hasnt given me what i asked

[odd siren]

Edge kinda a bit based with the copilot attachment tbh

I sometimes use it for google searching cos it parses fast af

[modest shuttle]

its also hilarious you can just selenium which is used for software automation testing

[keen flax]

lol what prompt did you guys use

[modest shuttle]

my company has an enterprise license with copilot i just used that 😄

[odd siren]

I just said "Write me a code in chromium for buying something online" or something to that effect

[modest shuttle]

for copilot i asked for the code to auto-purchase GPUs from Newegg or Amazon, gave me the full code

[odd siren]

It gave me a 4 page setup tutorial

Lol

Yeah it just straight up just handed it over

[modest shuttle]

ChatGPT keeps getting hung up on captchas and cloudflare or getting ip banned

[keen flax]

hahahaha

[odd siren]

I didn't say anything about gpus

[keen flax]

my copilot has morals 😂

[odd siren]

Just "buying online"

Lol

💀

[modest shuttle]

Thats interesting, almost identical to my prompt and mine gave me two sets of code

[odd siren]

You got the subscriber treatment maybe lol

[modest shuttle]

it must be

[odd siren]

LOL

Copilot sus of you now

[modest shuttle]

is it against TOS for newegg? cause they definitely let bots buy

[odd siren]

You slipped on the first sentence

Ima be honest I have no idea? But also, I don't work for them

They don't pay me anything

I would say it's largely "Frowned upon"

But beyond that? I can't barely even shop there man, I don't get to read that ToS lol

[keen flax]

hahaha

yeah I even signed in

and it doesnt want to

[odd siren]

Lol

[odd siren]

Rip

[modest shuttle]

seems odd since it happens for every release

[odd siren]

Ok let's not go filling the chat then with it lol]

[odd siren]

Ikr

[modest shuttle]

i didnt post any code 😄

[odd siren]

Guess they just get smarter maybe

[modest shuttle]

im not looking to give people an advantage over me 😄

[odd siren]

We cannot deny

3 people at a minimum tried to check the theory though

[modest shuttle]

im just waiting for the white swift to get bumped in price leaving no MSRP cards

[odd siren]

Which case should I try make work bois

Lian Li SUP01

Or Fractal North

I'm leaning heavy towards north

I think I need to fashion half a loop to use one though

[modest shuttle]

the north has that cool wood front

[odd siren]

Indeed

It has not a lot of room for a 360mm aio and thicc boi gpu tho haha

[modest shuttle]

i saw an insane water cooling build with that yesterday that had copper looking pipes

was one of the most unique builds ive ever seen

[odd siren]

Wood goes pretty hard now that you mention it

EK tho

EK ick

Lol

[modest shuttle]

it was similar to this but without the blue and pink

[odd siren]

Hey I have one of those gpu blocks

[modest shuttle]

could probably make some crazy steampunk looking thing with wood accents

[odd siren]

This reminds me of the taichi build from a few years back

[odd siren]

Oh

North just has bad documentation

I can make the 9070XT fit in it

Neat

[lone pond]

Is mindfactory in germany closing down ?

[karmic frigate]

GPUs are droping in 3 mins. yay

Hope I'll manage to get one this time at least

[hidden pawn]

same me too

which one you trying for?

[sleek willow]

same 🤞

[hidden pawn]

and is it only new egg or best buy and stuff too?

imagine we’re able to order one just for it to get canceled

[karmic frigate]

MSRP gigabyte bless my sole.
If it would disapear immidiatly I'll try to get the XFX MSRP, one after which I'll try Gigabyte OC one

Tho I really don't want to pay more then MSRP

[karmic frigate]

Happaned to me last time

[modest shuttle]

dont you mean disappointment is dropping in 3 minutes 😉

[hidden pawn]

here we go guys! good luck

[dusk nexus]

Anyone see stock?

[sleek willow]

not yet

[hidden pawn]

i bagged one let’s see if it goes through

[modest shuttle]

2 gigabyte cards looks to have been it

[karmic frigate]

GOD DAMT NEWEGG DECIDED TO SIGN ME OUT

THANK YOU

[dusk nexus]

Hmm I haven’t gotten anything to populate

[keen flax]

Isn't it in an hour?

[modest shuttle]

no

[hidden pawn]

got the gigabyte gaming one for $777

[woeful juniper]

Smh. No MSRP

[hidden pawn]

honestly out of my budget but if it arrives i’ll either keep it or sell it

[woeful juniper]

For the 9070 XT

[hidden pawn]

or return it

[hidden pawn]

yeah

there was only gigabyte i saw

[modest shuttle]

gigabyte + way over msrp rippers

[woeful juniper]

Like Damn not even one MSRP 😭

[karmic frigate]

Nope it is already sold out

[keen flax]

Lmao

[karmic frigate]

Yp

[woven moon]

looks like only the gigabyte

[modest shuttle]

making an announcement for only 2 cards that lasted 2 minutes lol

[woven moon]

cancelled

[karmic frigate]

Yp I put in my cart for newegg to tell me that I'm signed out

[dusk nexus]

Wow don’t even see any pop up

[karmic frigate]

It was the OC gigabyte

[woven moon]

i checked out and it got cancelled

[karmic frigate]

Same to when I signed it

[modest shuttle]

theyre showing in stock again for me

[karmic frigate]

I got a funny message that 150+ people have this product in there cart

[karmic frigate]

They do show in stock, but you can't checkout with them in your cart

[modest shuttle]

doesnt surprise me

they shouldve announced it would only be the gigabyte cards

[hidden pawn]

lay cookie I was able to get one because of you

originally I had a list of only the swift power cooler and the sapphire in a list on newegg but

I added the gigabyte last second because you said that

[karmic frigate]

Good for you honestly hope you will enjoy your card ❤️

[karmic frigate]

Now lets also hope they would not canncel your order, make sure it goes trough

[hidden pawn]

thank you so much, i’m not fully excited yet because as we’ve seen they can cancel last second but

hopefully it does

to be honest i don’t even like this gigabyte one too much i wanted one with RGB like the steel legend but

[modest shuttle]

i cant fathom spending ~$700 and settling for something i dont like/didnt necessarily want

[karmic frigate]

Gigabyte has a bit of RGB on the side

[grave apex]

I guess finding one of these cards at actual msrp is basically a pipe dream now?

[keen flax]

Yep

[hidden pawn]

I just saw that actually

[hidden pawn]

Me neither, this is an insanely expensive purchase for me but

I’m selling my 7800xt for $10 more than I bought it for so $515 so

[modest shuttle]

Unless you have a microcenter yes, they will likely never be obtainable online for $599

[hidden pawn]

It’s $260 out of pocket for me

[karmic frigate]

Yp they haven't removed all of there listings so I was hoping they would also try restocking them but it looks like they are not even trying.

They will probably bring them back after a while, but by then AMD cards would again be considered NVIDIA -50$ cards with much worse software, so no one would care about them again.

[hidden pawn]

basically paid $138 more than i should’ve, i pulled the trigger regardless because i can return or resell it if i want to

[sleek willow]

can't get anything through 😦

[blissful folio]

Maybe i should sell my 4090 for 4k like everybody else

[woeful juniper]

even at microcenter it's kind of hard to get