Amazon page is very confusing when it comes to sellers
#graphics-cards
cerulean rover
deep pike
i thought the xfx store was the seller
odd siren
Nah
You'd think so but this isn't ebay
That's just the page design
A hot link to other xfx products
deep pike
so i could be getting something used.....
odd siren
Or a fake seller
Go check on that lad
Lol
But if the seller is real then it's more likely backlog
Either way amazon cs will help you more than us
cerulean rover
Amazon usually indicates used/refurb with a line on the product page, but they don't distinguish between sellers
For example, all of these are listings on Amazon, but none of these are sold by Amazon
cerulean rover
Yes, on your order or just on the product page?
deep pike
order
cerulean rover
That should be straight from Amazon then, contact Amazon support and ask them what's up
deep pike
they said they put up a ticket or something?
cerulean rover
They said they created a ticket for you? Probably an auto reply, they'll contact you again when they process it
shadow socket
is PNY a relatively reputable brand? i havent really heard of em much
lilac flume
is PNY a relatively reputable brand? i havent really heard of em much
They’re typically in the data center space
odd siren
is PNY a relatively reputable brand? i havent really heard of em much
It's Nvidia's biggest aib partner
They're the ones who make the FE coolers
shadow socket
It's Nvidia's biggest aib partner
just tryna decide if i should try to cop their 5070ti cuz its cheaper or stick with like MSI cuz its a little more reputable and might be easier to get cuz its not the cheapest GPU
odd siren
just tryna decide if i should try to cop their 5070ti cuz its cheaper or stick w...
It'll sell by far the fastest
And is the most reasonable card
cerulean rover
If you're going to go for shuffle, select all of the options for a slightly better chance
peak swift
All of the AIBs have an MSRP model, you should get whichever one you can
Looks like the shuffle is only Gigabyte and Asus
shadow socket
whats the shuffle?
peak swift
odd siren
All of the AIBs have an MSRP model, you should get whichever one you can
So far only pny and asus have been confirmed
And asus was forced to after being called out
peak swift
The one I linked is at MSRP on newegg and msi's store
odd siren
Ah ok so 3 then
shadow socket
ive been looking at amazon canada and bestbuy canada cuz newegg aint updated yet
peak swift
The zotac one is also MSRP on newegg, so I think that's all of them (in north america at least, no idea about palit or gainword)
shadow socket
The zotac one is also MSRP on newegg, so I think that's all of them (in north am...
so is the gigabyte one im seein on newegg US
odd siren
I genuinely wonder how long that 750 lasts
shadow socket
ive been looking at the MSI Ventus 3x 5070ti and that might be the one i go for but even that one is like $880 USD
odd siren
They aren't really worth it at 880
shadow socket
thats my issue lmao
odd siren
9070 XT will definitively beat a 5070 Ti if you buy one for 880
shadow socket
like i want the MSI ventus cuz ive had em before and i know they r reputable
cerulean rover
Thought Newegg said they'll add all the MSRP models to shuffle but guess they're only adding 2 lol
peak swift
Best Buy Canada has confirmed they will have some, so if for some reason newegg doesn't have them in your region you can try there
shadow socket
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well i know PNY is typically like lower end so thats y im concerned buying one of theirs
peak swift
Price > Model
odd siren
well i know PNY is typically like lower end so thats y im concerned buying one o...
Ventus is lower end than pny half the time lmao
Like all of pny
Only verto is rarely worse
And even then they cool better
shadow socket
clear my mental block for me please cuz im just not educated enough in any world would the model affect how long the card lasts?
odd siren
clear my mental block for me please cuz im just not educated enough in any world...
If you buy a premium tier one sure, but that never makes sense anymore cos the premium tier ones cost as much as a 5080/4080/Super
peak swift
Each company makes several versions of the same card. For MSI this is something like Ventus at the low end and Vanguard at the high end
odd siren
You effectively are cornered into the budget tier for sensible buying
And overall the difference is minimal
shadow socket
ya like if they are both overclocked what really is the difference
peak swift
Apparently MSI does binning for their Suprims but I don't think there's a 5070 TI Suprim
odd siren
ya like if they are both overclocked what really is the difference
If you're looking at performance, basically nill
shadow socket
If you're looking at performance, basically nill
what about longevity
odd siren
So a $1000 5070 Ti is just a fancy $750 5070 Ti and loses completely to a $1000 5080
peak swift
ya like if they are both overclocked what really is the difference
It doesn't have to be marked as an OC model for you to overclock. All it means is they set up some modest overclock settings for you ahead of time
odd siren
what about longevity
Depends on the specific model, some can have fuses but otherwise the difference is basically negligible
I mean the TL;DR is just buy the cheapest you can
And if the cooler looks thicker for <$30 then get that
peak swift
The MSRP models will definitly sell out first
odd siren
They will all perform virtually the same
And longevity wise is anyone's guess beyond mild changes for like 40c per fuse and they only need like 3
shadow socket
The MSRP models will definitly sell out first
thats part of the reason i was willing to spend a bit more
i dont wanna get to checkout and then have it fail or tell me its sold out
odd siren
thats part of the reason i was willing to spend a bit more
Any model over $800 isn't worth it
peak swift
It's weird part is newegg only lists MSRP models right now
shadow socket
It's weird part is newegg *only* lists MSRP models right now
ya and nothing in canada
peak swift
If there was one that was less than $50 more I might try that just to have a better chance
odd siren
If there was one that was less than $50 more I might try that just to have a bet...
I imagine 30 thousand others are thinking the same thing at this very moment lmao
peak swift
But that's probably the max I'm willing to pay
odd siren
Enormous
The pny is the only worth it one of those two
Can't get that then forget it imo
shadow socket
this is all of bestbuy canada rnn
odd siren
Go get a 9070 XT or wait for 7900 cards to come back in stock
1249 CAD is way too much
Lol
peak swift
Do you think the 9070 XTs will be much cheaper? I'm worried AMD will see this and think they can get away with high pricing too
odd siren
You could get a used 7900 XT for way less and be only slightly off a 5070 Ti
odd siren
Do you think the 9070 XTs will be much cheaper? I'm worried AMD will see this an...
The signs point to a holding $750
But it'll be bedlam for AMD too
They sold out everywhere as well
peak swift
The signs point to a holding $750
Technically the 5070 TI is $750 too
shadow socket
realistically how fast u guys think the 5070ti sells out based on the 5080 and 5090
peak swift
And we see how that's going
odd siren
realistically how fast u guys think the 5070ti sells out based on the 5080 and 5...
I reckon 15 minutes for all SKUs max
Less than a minute for the cheaper ones
shadow socket
I reckon 15 minutes for all SKUs max
im waking up at like 8:25AM and gonna be literally spam refreshing till 9AM so hopefully i get lucky
odd siren
The 5080 sold out in under 20 seconds lads
peak swift
Note that 15 minutes doesn't mean you will be able to buy one
It means newegg/best buy will show them as in stock and you can try (and probably fail) to checkout
Also sometimes best buy will do a second smaller drop later in the day
I just hope newegg doesn't drop early
That happened to me with the 9800X3D and I was so pissed that I woke up at 6am for it
shadow socket
Also sometimes best buy will do a second smaller drop later in the day
i dont think bestbuy canada is active on like twitter or anything so idk if id even find out about it
peak swift
They don't announce the second one, it just kind of happens
shadow socket
ggs lol
livid idol
Newegg shuffle entries for 2 5070 ti models at MSRP are going now until noon PST. This may be your only chance to get one less than $900.
peak swift
Yeah... the other MSRP models sold out instantly
craggy pier
Newegg shuffle entries for 2 5070 ti models *at MSRP* are going now until noon P...
"Spin the wheel to see if we can scam you entirely or a bit less!"
subtle narwhal
got my card at mrsp so dub
craggy pier
I wonder if nvidia wanted to see how much they could get away with this launch or if theyre just that out of touch
craggy pier
got my card at mrsp so dub
Hope you enjoy it
livid idol
"Spin the wheel to see if we can scam you entirely or a bit less!"
If it's actually at MSRP then the 5070 Ti is worth getting, especially in the current market. It's nearly 4080 performance for 25% less than the 4080 super.
AMD is launching their competing GPUs soon
The 9070 XT will probably perform slightly worse, as it seems to land a little behind the 7900 XTX.
AMD has an opportunity there, if they don't flub the price again.
peak swift
I think the leaks are pointing to $750 for the 9070 XT
craggy pier
If it's actually at MSRP then the 5070 Ti is worth getting, especially in the cu...
Fair fair
If you look at the market even before everything rose in price a 4080 was still overpriced to begin with and i dont feel is worth its 1k msrp, but the ti at msrp is yeah not bad
Idk im just tired of the midrange of a series being so stupidly high in price
raven wharf
How fast did the 5070 TI sell out
peak swift
Instantly
peak swift
Knock on wood, but I think I got an MSRP 5070 TI
raven wharf
Knock on wood, but I think I got an MSRP 5070 TI
still hard to justify at msrp, but props if you managed to
what would you be upgrading from if so
peak swift
2080 super
random walrus
still hard to justify at msrp, but props if you managed to
Nah 5070Ti at MSRP is actually decent
peak swift
I see it as an almost-4080 for 25% less
raven wharf
still should be cheaper imo with how little jump there is over the 4070ti super
peak swift
Sure, but you can't get reasonably priced 4070 TI Supers right now either
random walrus
Yeah gotta consider the current market
raven wharf
fair
ill chill with my 6950 XT for awhile yet though, next upgrade I do is prob a higher refreshrate oled
oled is a dream for me i just cant justify owning one atm tho
peak swift
I have a 240hz 1440p OLED so I'm excited to finally start pushing the frames up
raven wharf
I have a 240hz 1440p OLED so I'm excited to finally start pushing the frames up
i went from using a 720p 24" tv for years to my 165hz 1440p ips I use now
my eyes could never go back lmao
peak swift
That happened to me with OLED lol
raven wharf
I have a 240hz 1440p OLED so I'm excited to finally start pushing the frames up
what monitor do you use now
like the model/brand
peak swift
ASUS PG27AQDM
quasi flicker
Does PPT in CPU-Z have any significant meaning for my 7800 XT?
odd siren
Yes it should be the GPU power limit
Like your 7700X's PPT under PBO, they do the same thing
odd siren
It'll be dependent on where it's measuring the power
celest thorn
quasi flicker
The only good thing about the 5090 is the cooler design on the FE card
Still can't find game benchmarks against the 4090 that don't use DLSS
Hallucinated frames 🥰
peak swift
That's not hard to find lol
raven wharf
might be a weird question but is there a reason the XFX 6900 series was not a choice for any of the big mainstream reviewers or generally the entire XFX 6000 series? I think the only XFX card that got reviewed by like jayz and hub was the 6800 XT
I can find reviews on my 6950xt from xfx but from people ive never heard of
seems like it was mostly sapphire
quasi flicker
That's not hard to find lol
Apparently it is
peak swift
Apparently it is
peak swift
Apparently it is
peak swift
Apparently it is
You literally just have to Google it
https://www.dsogaming.com/articles/nvidia-rtx-5090-vs-rtx-4090-native-4k-gaming-benchmarks/
quasi flicker
You literally just have to Google it
https://www.dsogaming.com/articles/nvidia-r...
I was looking for videos specifically, I guess that was the wrong thing to look for
velvet grail
any of the things that are shown in device manager can be useful?
I forgot to mention this thing has no usb support rn so installing hwinfo would mean using floppies
I had to split the drivers into five floppies to get few things working properly on this pc (aka nothing)
livid idol
I forgot to mention this thing has no usb support rn so installing hwinfo would ...
It's a built in utility, run in command prompt
velvet grail
oh I thought you meant the program hwinfo
I just put the pc away a few minutes ago. I'll remember to check that id next time
I could also install win2k winxp if that can help in any way with drivers
mb: k7m rev1.04
cpu: amd Athlon k7700mtr51b
gpu: intel 740 8m sgram
usb: Asus usb / imr expansion
net: 3com fast etherlink pci
these are the names reported on the physical components
fossil marsh
is there a specific channel that drops stock notifs?
cerulean rover
We don't have any but there's plenty of other discords specifically for that
fossil marsh
Are you allowed to share any that you know of? I know some servers frown upon that but I’ve had a hard time finding any
cerulean rover
The stuff I remember was from 30xx launch, stockdrops nowinstock and nerdspeak
peak swift
The instock app is pretty good
rich cedar
I checked 3080 prices again and didn’t see anything that i could currently buy for under 470, the rest have a few days left on auction, does that mean prices are going up?
odd siren
I'd love if that had a description
The profile looks ok
405 is ok if you really want a founders
rich cedar
frick. It sold
odd siren
Rip
rich cedar
Thats what I get for asking i guess lol
I think i got sidetracked a bit too much too
I should have jumped on it. Apparently the card is a bit noisy
The next cheapest Founders i could buy right now is like 470 bucks not including shipping
Ugh i should have jumped on that! Oh well
static elbow
no shuffle today?
static elbow
https://www.ebay.com/p/4040934334?iid=205309149406
just check zotac refurbs
they restock 3080s every couple of days to weeks
around $370
rich cedar
Oh nice
static elbow
their refurbs are actually a good price unlike their open box cards.. $790 for a 4070 ti open box
static elbow
I just saw a 3080FE pop up for 400
how come you're aiming for 3080 fe?
rich cedar
I like the design honestly, its always been a dream to own an FE card
peak swift
40 series cards so expensive right now 😭
static elbow
haha yea
I saw a 4070 on zotac open box a couple days ago for $560
not sure what to do at this point
I want an MSRP GPU because my PC doesn't have a GPU rn
running off of 9700x igpu
but I don't think msrp ones will restock for a long time
peak swift
I snagged a good priced 5070TI a couple days ago
50 above msrp
I got an msrp one too, but apparently it's fans sound like a helicopter so I canceled that one
static elbow
I'm tired of having to filter on every site so I stop seeing 4060s
rich cedar
4070s arent a grand? Thats crazy now that i look
peak swift
Newegg every day "top GPU picks for you" and it's three 4060s
static elbow
id rather have no GPU than own a 4060 again
rich cedar
I’ve found a few 4070s for under 450 too
peak swift
4070s arent a grand? Thats crazy now that i look
Its mainly the FE that runs you towards a grand (on ebay at least)
rich cedar
Ah
static elbow
I'm at the point where I will take either a
4080, 4080 super, 5070 ti, or MSRP 5080
peak swift
I would have splurged for a 5080 if I could get it at or close to MSRP, but that dream is dead
I think it's just the FE and the PNY 5080 that I see selling for a grand at this point, and who knows how long PNY will stay at that price
rich cedar
I could litterally get a 4070 thats more efficient and has a newer featureset
Apparently the 4070s draw a lot less power
static elbow
yes
raven wharf
get an XTX
static elbow
for $920
rich cedar
Way outta my budget lol
static elbow
it's not out of my budget it just doesn't have dlss
raven wharf
for $920
if you are considering 80 class cards
the XTX often beats them in regular rast plus has more vram
peak swift
If I knew it was getting FSR 4 I would definitely bought an XTX at that price
static elbow
If I knew it was getting FSR 4 I would definitely bought an XTX at that price
it's crazy how they're just like "oh yeah we dunno if it's coming to 7000 series"
peak swift
It's especially weird because the whole thing with FSR so far is that it runs on everything lol
static elbow
It's especially weird because the whole thing with FSR so far is that it runs on...
yup
rich cedar
I had a look at most of the cards i was seeing and a lot of the “buy it now’s were 500 plus
static elbow
I had a look at most of the cards i was seeing and a lot of the “buy it now’s we...
DM them and low-ball them
peak swift
Lmao, like clockwork here is my daily "top GPU picks for you" email from Newegg
static elbow
400-450 offer
rich cedar
Yep that 3080 is gone
static elbow
I have hot stock premium and the only thing that has been stocked since 8am is drip fed $1500 Amazon 5080s
peak swift
Hot stock has not been good at getting 50 series GPUs in my experience
It is usually later than the tracking discords, although I don't have premium so maybe that makes a big difference
peak swift
If the used prices were better I would lol
static elbow
Ahh your shopping at that tier
the 4080/5080 tier
basically between $750-$1000 tier
static elbow
very
it'll be fine when scalpers realize all the mfs paying 50% above MSRP are done buying cards
rich cedar
Yeah, i am lol
peak swift
The talk about 25% tariffs on semiconductors made in Taiwan is why I've been so rushed to finish this build lol
rich cedar
funny when I went to reach out to the owner of that card by the time I checked back in the auction was done
At the time I was sitting here talking to you somebody bought that card
static elbow
r there really going to be no GPU drops today
peak swift
Weekends usually have less drops
static elbow
lame
rich cedar
Surely you have other things to do on a Saturday
static elbow
Surely you have other things to do on a Saturday
yup currently at work
and then I have to go home and do some assignments, take a test, remove a stick of ram from a laptop, return both the ram and the laptop
rich cedar
Nice I’ve DoorDash over $700 in the past couple days to save for a gpu
static elbow
thought about setting up some stock notifs on 4070 ti super, 4080, 4080 super but I looked and none of those have really been in stock since Nov/Dec with some last in stock late Jan
static elbow
Nice I’ve DoorDash over $700 in the past couple days to save for a gpu
niceeeeee
static elbow
sick
quasi flicker
Yeah, I’ve been working my butt off so I can get a 3080
Why a 3080?
Although I don't remember what the market looks like atm, other than not good anyway
yeah nvm it's not bad, it's horrible
The 7800 XT I got for $500 is now $860
I wonder if you can still find a used 3090 for a decent price
oh actually
A few 7900 XTs and 7900 XTXs under MSRP
rich cedar
I was originally looking at 7700XTs but they went above 450-500
And Ive always wanted an Nvidia card
That wasnt my GT710 I had many years ago
keen nacelle
Therell be 3080s around 350-400 soon I'm sure
Just have to be fast
I've been looking a lot the last week ish specifically on ebay and have seen a good few under $400
static elbow
ive got an estimated wattage of just over 500, i think a 750 might be fine
you want wiggle room, not just the bare minimum, there is almost no price difference between 750w and 850w
850w will cover you for everything up to the 5080 tier in the future
rich cedar
hmmm nice
i went from a 400 to a 600 watt when i did a rebuild about 4 years ago
apparently Corsair calls themselves the "gold standard of power supplies"
celest thorn
rich cedar
Wait so now they are also catching fire?
keen nacelle
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JdN88Q
What psu do you have
Also a decent 750 would be fine as long as you power limit the 3080
An RMX 750 might handle it
solemn panther
Whenever the majority of people here rather talk about past gen than the present
rich cedar
nothing present gen impresses me tbh
solemn panther
Not really
solemn panther
Hm
random walrus
could always ask for a timestamp photo
rich cedar
alright. I sent him a message asking about a timestamp photo for human vertification, and asked if the card had been mined with, and the reason for selling
peak swift
You should ask for a timestamp video, those are harder to fake/photoshop
peak swift
Just instead of a picture it's like a 10 second video instead. Standard verification stuff, today's date and their username or some other way to prove it's theirs
I've been lurking on hardware swap lately, and they posted this so I'm guessing there's been an increase in scammers with the GPU shortage
rich cedar
I found a 3080 FE for 335 on facebook from a guy parting out his rig
new thermal paste and stuff
keen nacelle
thats great
peak swift
Yep, that's a steal
neat ventureBOT
DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU
peak swift
Nvidia's drivers suck so much I had to roll back to one from November
To get my hdmi display to work at least
forest oasis
in fairness, they're generally decent, especially back before amd got their crap together
nowadays i'd say they're more or less equal
though amd drivers break vr a bit more often
peak swift
I guess not working with my TV isn't terrible, but I am very annoyed it hasn't been fixed 4 months later
And I know it's the drivers because I built my new machine after that and it still doesn't work
cerulean rover
572.16? The driver that came out on the 20th that matches the timeframe is 572.47
solemn panther
good call
cerulean rover
Also says 572.47 in the screenshots in the linked article lol
odd siren
Also says 572.47 in the screenshots in the linked article lol
Fixed
Mb
Been busy today
cerulean rover
aight cool
random walrus
I found a 3080 FE for 335 on facebook from a guy parting out his rig
That's almost scam-y pricing
Just take caution
raven wharf
https://www.ebay.com/itm/316359959775?_skw=rtx+3090+Founders+Edition+for+sale&it...
seller profile says he joined in feb 2025 so thats another red flag kind of
recently made account
this is his entire item list 💀
weird
rich cedar
true
rich cedar
Also, I have a 1080p 60hz monitor, would a higher refresh 1440 monitor make a world of difference on this card?
raven wharf
Also, I have a 1080p 60hz monitor, would a higher refresh 1440 monitor make a wo...
If you are talking about a 3090 most likely
My 6950 XT crushes 1440p 165hz for basically all games
rich cedar
oh, 3080 lol
forest oasis
this is his entire item list 💀
Who brings a plush to a pool
rich cedar
a scammer
raven wharf
oh, 3080 lol
I’m sure a 3080 is decently solid, check YouTube there’s prob videos of games you’d be playing at 1440p on a 3080 so you can sort of gauge performance
I’m just not super familiar with 30 series performances
rich cedar
I'm expecting a pretty big bump coming from an RX580 8gb lol
raven wharf
I made my first jump from a 570 to a 6700 XT even that was huge lol
Is a reason you are only looking at used 30 series?
rich cedar
I can’t really afford a new card, was originally looking at 7700XTs but those crept up in price so much and the 3080 outperforms it
I’m also looking to get into Dying Light 2 and Cyberpunk
I don’t really play any truly meaningful games at the moment which I was thinking about last night lol
velvet grail
i though the thinkpad r40 (2682) only shipped with ati radeon mobility 7000 or 7500 gpu. after installing drivers in windows it is detected as a simple ati M6, which is also written on the chip itself.
i don't get if this is normal or just a strange way of naming the chips and gpu
livid idol
i though the thinkpad r40 (2682) only shipped with ati radeon mobility 7000 or 7...
Guess it shipped with Rage GPU option too
velvet grail
apparently, it's mentioned few times in some very old online forums
unfortunately its the worst gpu for this laptop model, not that the upgraded 7500 version runs any better...
forest oasis
Today I learned that apparently a bad display cable can cause dlss to crash in games
Why? Idk
But somebody had issues with dlss randomly crashing, and ddu didn't fix it
They tried swapping to a different displayport cable and it stopped crashing
Coincidence? Possibly
vocal thunder
Hello, my apologies if I'm asking about this in the wrong channel, but I'm experiencing some issues that I believe are related to a potential faulty graphics card. I purchased the prebuilt Yeyian Yari Gaming Desktop Pc, Intel core i7-12700F, Nvidia RTX 4060Ti, which started having issues after 6 months. Either my monitor has a no display message, or the computer turns off randomly and gives me the same no display message. When I attempted to update my BIOS and firmware, or put the computer into safe mode, the screen has several visual glitches (odd colours, shapes, textures, etc.). I tried a new monitor, new cables, updated my drivers, putting my computer into high performance mode, etc. I am in the process of reaching out to Yeyian, but wanted to ask if anyone has any suggestions about potential solutions or how to go forward. Thank you so much in advance and my apologies again if this is the wrong place to inquire.
cerulean rover
Hello, my apologies if I'm asking about this in the wrong channel, but I'm exper...
Have you tried using DDU and reinstalling an older display driver? Recently drivers have been problematic
?ddu
Damn bot doesn't want to work, guide here
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU
572.47 has a lot of reported issues and 572.16 has some reported issues
cerulean rover
You can use TPU's database for older drivers, click show older versions, and do something like 566.36
https://www.techpowerup.com/download/nvidia-geforce-graphics-drivers/
vocal thunder
Thank you so much for replying. My current driver is version 572.42 (came out 10 days ago), would you still recommend lowering?
cerulean rover
Yes, 572.16, 572.42, 572.47 all have reported issues, 572.47 more than the rest but it's still a good idea to roll back beyond those
vocal thunder
Great, thank you so much. I'll give it a shot
velvet grail
can a gtx 1080 run off a pcie x1 3.0 connection and perform any good?
cerulean rover
Define "good"
1080 needs something like 3.0 x8 afaik, should be doable with a little bit of performance loss at 3.0 x4, performance likely drops off a cliff below that
livid idol
can a gtx 1080 run off a pcie x1 3.0 connection and perform any good?
As long as what you're doing isn't bandwidth intensive, then sure
cerulean rover
Assuming gaming, it most likely won't do well
If you're doing something like mining then yea, people used to run like rx580s off pcie 3.0 x1
livid idol
Gaming would depend on the game. Smaller ones you can fit the entire game into the VRAM buffer would do OK.
velvet grail
mainly gaming, beamng, mc, war thunder and such
I'm looking at those m2 to pcie x16 risers on aliexpress but very few specify if they're actually x4 or x1 lane
any way I can tell just from the images?
the difference between x1 and x4 is significant
random walrus
are you trying to like frankenstein a gpu into a laptop mobo or something?
gpus also typically pull ~75W from the pcie slot, idk if m.2 supports that much power delivery
oh look sliek some come with a cable for sata or 4pin power
@velvet grail this one specifically has options for 1x,4x,8x, 16x
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804798540546.html
and has sata power
not sure if sata power does 75W but maybe m.2 slot + sata is close
velvet grail
are you trying to like frankenstein a gpu into a laptop mobo or something?
I'm trying to get the gpu to work in a system with a dead x16 slot. I'll try my luck with the m2 slot, hopefully that one is not affected
velvet grail
random walrus
hmm
velvet grail
that's from the one you recommended, I want through thousands of risers and just bought one few minutes ago
I had to get them deals you know
before midnight
velvet grail
no x4 or x8 slots on the mobo?
itx
velvet grail
quite unfortunate since everything else on that rog h370 is working fine
velvet grail
I actually was browsing Ali earlier today and saw a sub-$70 B550 itx board
mmmh sounds nice
random walrus
slightly tempted to get it to swap out for my a520
but other than only 1 m.2 slot the a520 is alright
velvet grail
I'm just trying my best to make the 20€ h370 worth it
also I'm out of decent am4 cpus
and full of lga 1151s
8600k would is what I went for this build
velvet grail
the one I got is a m2 to x16 pcie, description lists 3.0 & 8gbps speeds so it is very likely x4 wired.
x1 and x2 can't achieve such speeds in theory
I'll leave an update in two weeks or so when I test it out
I was also thinking about getting one of these which is x4 and just 3€. but there's no way to plug a x16 thing without it interfering with other components near the m2 slot
random walrus
yeah I saw those as well but you'd def need a riser cable to the GPU would properly sit in the case bracket
livid idol
not sure if sata power does 75W but maybe m.2 slot + sata is close
Most of the power comes from the cables. Even a 5090 only uses maybe 20W from the slot, depending on model.
random walrus
right but some lower spec cards just use the pcie slot. I had a 1050ti that did, not sure about a 1060.
livid idol
1060 uses 8 pin, no slot only models
random walrus
ah ok
forest oasis
I was also thinking about getting one of these which is x4 and just 3€. but ther...
if only if they made a version that flipped it around
actually
you it would be extra jank but you can get a pcie extension thing lmao
riser
livid idol
At least that's the model that warns you before it melts
cerulean rover
At least that's the model that warns you before it melts
warns you after*
velvet grail
yeah I saw those as well but you'd def need a riser cable to the GPU would prope...
a riser would aslo be in the way of other components because of where m2 slots are usually located so... I got one anyways to see if it fits on another mb
plush trellis
No drops this morning?
livid idol
No drops this morning?
Probably no major drops until March. Anything that comes up until then is going to be a trickle or just from returns.
What day in March? No idea
peak swift
Msi is doing another lucky draw. Idk if you want a $2600 ventus though, seems like the worst model by far this gen
livid idol
At least it's "good enough" but yeah it runs about 10-15 degrees hotter than comparably priced models
peak swift
Louder too
rich cedar
Don’t buy a 50 series, you are funding this absolute madness lol
static elbow
Don’t buy a 50 series, you are funding this absolute madness lol
I had no GPU
basically as good as 5080 after overclock anyways
keen nacelle
$1070 for a 5070 ti+ psu isn't terrible considering 4080 supers were $950-1000
That steam code is a nice bonus
peak swift
Dang, I didn't get a steam code
rich cedar
I mean you can pay a grand for a 5070 this year but whos to say next year they decide its 1200 lol
peak swift
I got mine for basically msrp so that's a price I'm willing to pay
rich cedar
750 for a 70 class card is just insane though
peak swift
They were 800 last gen
keen nacelle
We knew nvidia and amd were going to take advantage of seeing how much people would pay for gpus during the shortage
rich cedar
Exactly
rich cedar
They were 800 last gen
Still too much imo
70 class should be 600 dollars max imo
80 class should be like 8-900 and 90 class shouldn’t cost anymore than 1200
peak swift
I think there's no putting that toothpaste back in the tube
random walrus
Gamers when inflation exists 😡
peak swift
The 70TI isn't too overpriced, but the 80 and 90 class cards have far outstripped inflation
keen nacelle
The 70TI isn't too overpriced, but the 80 and 90 class cards have far outstrippe...
Go look at the 3070 ti msrp
Or the 2070 super
40 series was overpriced asf
peak swift
Go look at the 3070 ti msrp
3070TI msrp was $599. Adjusted for inflation that's just over $700 today
Wow, is the 5070 actually cheaper than the 3070 adjusted for inflation? I need to check my math
Yeah, that checks out
keen nacelle
3070TI msrp was $599. Adjusted for inflation that's just over $700 today
Fair ig but the 3070 ti was abt 2% better than the 3070, and the 3080 ti was abt 2% worse than a 3090, while the 4080 was 30% worse than a 4090
Msrps track for inflation, but nvidia moved around their marketing segmentation (i hope that's the right words, im tired)
peak swift
Yeah the 40 series was the real problem in terms of msrp. The other issue is the massive upcharge on the AIB models (whether due to tariffs or high demand)
keen nacelle
50 series msrps don't really exist
peak swift
I got one
keen nacelle
Same way it wasn't really a thing with the 3060 12gb for a while
peak swift
Yep
keen nacelle
I hadn't seen one at that price, my bad
peak swift
I wouldn't tell anyone else to count on getting it for that price tho
keen nacelle
I've only been seeing $850+
keen nacelle
$450 for a 3080 10gb isn't great
Thats 3080 ti pricing
r/hardwareswap, or the hws discord, or fbm
rich cedar
3080TIs are like 450 plus
keen nacelle
i wouldnt pay more than 400ish for a 3080 personally
rich cedar
Yeah Ive been seeing 450 plus, and I don’t think they are gonna go down lol
keen nacelle
3080 refurb has been sub 400 multiple times recently from zotac, 3080 ti was 450 a few weeks ago
and ebay prices are normally higher than other second hand markets
solemn panther
hmm...
solemn panther
how long have you been looking for a 3080/ti?
static elbow
$1070 for a 5070 ti+ psu isn't terrible considering 4080 supers were $950-1000
it's like $20 not $100
odd siren
Nvidia says "0.5% of people" affected but it's appearing to be more than that
Then again news always appears bigger than it is
static elbow
Nvidia lyin
static elbow
yes
keen nacelle
Psu is worth abt $100
$150 msrp but there's similar psus in the $100ish area
So it was basically $950 after tax, not bad with the current market
keen nacelle
Yeah Ive been seeing 450 plus, and I don’t think they are gonna go down lol
Check this out on @Newegg:MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12GB GDDR6X PCI Express 4.0 Graphics Card RTX 3080 Ti Gaming X Trio 12G https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-rtx-3080-ti-gaming-x-trio-12g/p/N82E16814137650T?Item=N82E16814137650T
keen nacelle
ornate gust
craggy pier
How card
red hamlet
yeah
craggy pier
Thanks
plush trellis
Come on newegg need some drops
cerulean rover
Shuffle is your best shot
Currently drops are just returns or canceled orders afaik
solemn panther
Another failed shuffle
timber scarab
We just need the B770 to come out highkey
rich cedar
The hunt is over. I just snagged a 3080FE for 469 dollars OTD, and free shipping in excellent condition with the original box?
random walrus
I mean
~$100 more than the refurbs we've seen recently
But if you really wanted an FE I guess that's the premium
olive bobcat
We just need the B770 to come out highkey
I’m hoping for this
random walrus
Wait @cerulean rover new techie roles?
olive bobcat
$300 price tag with 16GB vram
That’s what I hope
random walrus
Cheapest b580 available rn is $363
So even if MSRP of b770 (or 750?) is $300 it'll likely go for much more
peak swift
Best case realistic scenario I see is $450 MSRP
cerulean rover
Wait <@278694081440251905> new techie roles?
Yea, pingable roles for specific categories
hardy sleet
Hello everyone, my friend is looking for a GPU for his fairly modern Dell Inspiron tower PC. I recommended a slot powered GPU since I am not sure how much of a hassle the proprietary PSU and other parts are. He is also starting off with a family computer so I also do not want any gutting out of the PC that just does not work. So plug and play seems best. I know it will be low/mid tier gaming.
What does anybody think? Arc A310? 3050 6GB GPU?
random walrus
Hello everyone, my friend is looking for a GPU for his fairly modern Dell Inspir...
(assuming this is for gaming) probabyl would go for an a380 over an a310
hardy sleet
(assuming this is for gaming) probabyl would go for an a380 over an a310
Yes for just 50 more dollars it seems
random walrus
other options are gtx 1650 or rx 6500xt (though there is a caveat to the 6500xt)
I forget exactly what it is, something to do with pcie bandwidth maybe? you need a high enough spec mobo/cpu in order to have the 6500xt run well
ok yeah looks like you need pcie 4.0 for the 6500xt to reach full potential. If the dell tower is new enough, i would assume it has pcie4.0 but would still be good to check
I believe 1650 < a380 < 6500xt < 3050
hardy sleet
Ok thank you! so the PCie is a hardware version like DPs and HDMIs have?
random walrus
yeah here's an article
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/rx-6500-xt-pcie-gen3-gen4-tested
hardy sleet
Why GTX 1650 over the 3050? Is it because you are probably paying for the RTX and DLSS on the 3050?
I have heard people say it is overpriced
random walrus
less < more
3050 is the fastest out of those 4, but yeah it's probably pretty expensive
a380 or 6500xt might be priced a bit better
hardy sleet
@random walrus Thank you much!
random walrus
no problem
keen nacelle
<@358383085181730826> Thank you much!
1650 would be cheaper but its also a fair bit worse
6gb vram isn't ideal but its much more relevant than 4gb
Could probably find one sub $100 used
I know it's a vastly different price range, but if he wants to spend the money for a much larger upgrade
https://www.ebay.com/itm/156735751535?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=92chrSivS8C&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
hardy sleet
@keen nacelle Thank you as well 😄
rugged tapir
Anyone know where I can get a 4070 ts for a decent price? Was gonna get it with my tax return but now that the 5070 ti came out the price went up $500 dollars and no 5070tis are in stock so
I’m at a loss
peak swift
You basically can't
No more production + not enough 50 series cards means 40 series prices are wack
keen nacelle
Theres this
https://www.zotacstore.com/us/zt-a30900j-10p-r
$800 3090
Only worth it if you need the vram for workstation use
Otherwise id look for a used 3080/ti
odd siren
Gpu prices are chaos now simply because of an artificial market
If you can otherwise wait a couple more months for it to settle then it's gonna continue to be this bad
hoary mauve
I'm at a 3060ti atm if I were to upgrade what should I get
peak swift
What games are you playing and at what resolution?
hoary mauve
Roblox, Minecraft, Derail Valley, Indiana Jones (new one), practically the entire game pass library
Resolution and graphics wise i try to push for better on certain games
peak swift
Do you have a budget in mind?
hoary mauve
Do you have a budget in mind?
If I were to upgrade fully 1500-1600
peak swift
Ok
hoary mauve
If I were to upgrade fully 1500-1600
Meaning a whole new build
peak swift
I might recommend waiting to see what AMDs cards look like
A 5070 or 5070TI would be the best fits for Nvidia this generation, but that's only if you get them at msrp which isn't likely
hoary mauve
A 5070 or 5070TI would be the best fits for Nvidia this generation, but that's o...
That won't be for l like a 1+ years, and besides that's probably when I'll rebuild
peak swift
Got it. Yeah if you are waiting a year then get whatever you prefer and fits your budget from AMD 9070/XT or Nvidia 5070/TI
rich cedar
I just scooped up a 3080FE for 470 OTD which is capable of 4K gaming, a small amount
peak swift
It might struggle with Indy at 4k, that game is extremely VRAM hungry
random walrus
However you should be able to do Indy at 1440p with 10gb. I scraped by with 8
peak swift
Same. Feels like an optimization problem tbh, I've heard Indy at 4k can run out even if you have 16gb
random walrus
Indy is actually quite well optimized iirc, the RT just needs a lot of vram
odd siren
Cod's the same
For reasons no one can describe
They said this about alan wake yet few months later they reduced the vram usage to barely anything
Starfield too lol
random walrus
Idk I'd rather Indy use all of my vram and run fairly well than Alan wake use not much vram and run worse
odd siren
While currently valid both indy and cod likely could be addressed in that regard
odd siren
Idk I'd rather Indy use all of my vram and run fairly well than Alan wake use no...
It doesn't run worse tho
peak swift
I think I just don't like the idea that you need a 90 class card to run things at max settings on release
random walrus
I think I just don't like the idea that you need a 90 class card to run things a...
I ran Indy at max settings (except for like 2-3 vram related ones, one of which was hair) on a 3060ti
peak swift
5 years ago the 90 cards were still Titans and not for gamers generally
Wait maybe more than 5 years. What is time
frail oak
Newegg has no new GPU’s. Sad day for gamers.
forest oasis
The shuffle ended like yesterday
peak swift
Msi had a couple drops today. Including some non-bundles
rugged tapir
I have a 1080 ti
I love it, but obviously it is falling behind. I’m ready for an upgrade. I don’t want to change my psu of 750w
odd siren
I love it, but obviously it is falling behind. I’m ready for an upgrade. I don’t...
7800XT for 530 is about the only nice priced thing we can recommend rn
And I hope it's a good 750W
Some 750W's are firebombs in the making
From any brand, model is the important part
rugged tapir
I’ve had it for 4 years so it’s pretty solid
odd siren
I mean I could say the same thing about a decommissioned landmine but that doesn't mean it's safe
Lol
hardy sleet
I feel like a boomer recommending the RTX 3050 6GB but it seems to be a fit situation for him... he is young and using his families Dell Inspiron tower so slot powered is best. Any other suggestions or is this a cooked suggestion?
GTX 1650 looks great for 75 dollars used
keen nacelle
I'd look for one closer to $40-50
And not all 1650s are pcie powered
r/hardwareswap is good
Otherwise probably Facebook marketplace
hardy sleet
And not all 1650s are pcie powered
How can tell? I can tell easier with the 3050s because the 6GB are PCie powered.
hardy sleet
Otherwise probably Facebook marketplace
Got kicked out of FB Marketplace even though I am above 18. Annoying. I can use someone elses phone though I guess.
hardy sleet
https://www.ebay.com/itm/306139608730?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&s...
Which 6500s are PCie powered too? Sorry!😅
raven wharf
https://www.ebay.com/itm/306139608730?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&s...
i never thought id see a 6500 XT recommended ngl
keen nacelle
How can tell? I can tell easier with the 3050s because the 6GB are PCie powered.
Sorry I went to bed
I believe all 6500xt 4gb are pcie powered, but just Google the model and look to see if there's a 6/8pin slot on it
If it doesn't, its pcie powered
solemn panther
👀
quasi flicker
Is there a way that I can make my iGPU handle Discord and everything on my second monitor in general? When I try to set something to power saving mode instead of high performance, I don't even have the option to choose my iGPU and only have my 7800 XT on both.
I have my second monitor plugged into my motherboard, and the iGPU appears to be enabled because I can see it in Task Manager and drivers are installed for it (they were automatically when I installed them for my 7800 XT).
Although I don't know what has it at 20% utilization
Oh okay so GPU engine in Task Manager is possibly just completely wrong, so it might be running on my iGPU
I guess having my second monitor plugged into my iGPU automatically makes everything on there use it? I assumed it didn't because I saw GPU 1 under GPU engine, but if that's just wrong then problem solved.
livid idol
Oh okay so `GPU engine` in Task Manager is possibly just completely wrong, so it...
Task Manager doesn't know how to handle lower frequency states so it can report 100% usage, but it's only at 300 MHz which is more like 10-15% actual usage
Basically just don't use task manager for anything other than managing tasks lol
quasi flicker
lol
quasi flicker
Basically just don't use task manager for anything other than managing tasks lol
Do you have any idea what program I could use to actually see what's using a certain GPU?
cerulean rover
GPUz gives good data in general, not sure how good it is with utilization though
livid idol
You probably need to toggle a setting in Adrenalin to get the iGPU to show here
Don't have the time to search for it today
quasi flicker
Okay
native moss
Hey I was just doing some maintenance on my pc and when I pulled the gpu out of the slot there was a small pin cover on the front that revealed a smaller pcie card, what could it be for?
It's a gigabyte 2070 super
I finally figured it out
It's for nvlink
solemn panther
Yes
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brave jolt
sup bros
anyone have 5090 , i got a couple questions
cpu is running like 15 degrees hotter cuz of it in some situations, anyone else?
When i boot, pc freezes for like 10 seconds every single time. any idea how to fix, no clue whats causing it.
summer island
9070xt??
peak swift
Looks promising, you probably want to wait for third party benchmarks to say for sure
peak swift
Yeah I would try for a 970XT
peak swift
AMD actually didn’t screw it up guys
There's still time
weary glade
9070XT gonna be just as good for the gaming speeds hm
keen nacelle
There's still time
This
I'm rooting for AMD 100%
But they can definitely screw this up
keen nacelle
5700xt
weary glade
i love it it still can somewhat hold up a bit
keen nacelle
Or 580
weary glade
nop
weary glade
R9 something or other?
vega 64 wahahaha
keen nacelle
I had one of those for like three days
It was half working and I traded it for a 1660 super that I later traded for a 5700xt lmao
keen nacelle
Yeah i had most of a 3600 build and added the gpu and a few other parts for my partner
Makes a decent gaming rig
dusk nexus
How big of a difference do we normally see in AIB models from bottom to top?
Looks like the 304W models are gonna be the -2% va the 5070ti but also will be priced at 599 where as the OC ones will be +2% I’m assuming 700+ based on what we’ve seen so far. How much cooler do they actually run and how on earth is that worth it?
peak swift
If you are looking for best value, go with the cheapest one. The OC ones almost never have enough uplift to raise the performance to price ratio
odd siren
How big of a difference do we normally see in AIB models from bottom to top?
Lo...
In terms of 40 series and 50 series
Maybe a percent
Your luck of the chip on the card makes the most difference
The cards are really voltage limited and not pushed due to dielectric migration over 1.07v/1.1v
So the variance is little to nothing
peak swift
Some AIBs do bin their chips but again, the price increase basically never justifies the small performance increase
odd siren
Ye
This is why I push the msrp story cos really the msrp cards are just fine
Especially lower end
Lower end the differences drop to maybe 0
quartz gull
I updated to newest driver to play MH wilds
And now my 4090 is doing crazy coil whine including idling in desktop?
It's PIERCING
Killing the Nvidia app gets rid of it
Opening the Nvidia app I can legit hear it from outside my room, it's like a dog whistle
Then if I open a game it's back again I'm so lost
Since when can driver update introduce coil whine??
Uh oh It may be unrelated I think it's my power supply suddenly starting to whine, but I don't have a good way of pulling wattage without the GPU in?
odd siren
Tf
Claim warranty if it's that bad
Losing your hearing is not worth it
It's possible you could open the card up and cover that up to stop it from being nearly as loud but I would claim that
That's bad
dusk nexus
So the variance is little to nothing
How are people able to push the nvidia 5080 so far then it was like 10-15% I saw for the manual OC? Is that more just luck of the draw stuff?
forest oasis
It's PIERCING
How loud
odd siren
How are people able to push the nvidia 5080 so far then it was like 10-15% I saw...
Yeah just silicon luck
Been that way for years. Very few products have any actual binning at all
If they pass spec and typical boost behaviour then they send it ship it
If it overclocks well...meh
Only a couple skus even do binning anymore
Suprim and HoF are two examples
But when it says "OC" for example it means nothing honestly
Like a funny example
You'd think that the top level cards would be the best chips in the product stack right?
3080s were allllll over the place
But there's one example I'll never forget
The aorus gigabytes, the high end cards, often were really poor overclockers, some barely even made spec
However the vision gigabytes
"Mid-low end" so to speak
Some eagle gigabytes too
Overclocked stupidly well
Reason was never given for this but the easy guess is that the "mid-low end" had to run the same normal spec on 2x8 power pins vs the high end aorus cards using 3x8
The aorus ones could hit spec more easily by being fed way more power
Whereas the lower power chips needed to hit that being fed less
It's the same principle as laptops
A lot of the better chips are reserved for laptops in fact, as they need to use wayyyy less power for the spec they need to achieve
And you'll find often a lot of chips are just downclocked desktop variants
Anyway
Wall of text
But hopefully that more or less explains the redundancy in buying anything above msrp, especially when even binning might get you a few % for double digit % cost
fresh forge
SO... new egg dose not sale any 3070 fe adaptors
seems the 3070 fe. has a 12 pin to 8 pin adptor and i cant find it on sale anyplace.
anyone happen to know where one can be picked up from?
odd siren
Just look up any 12 pin to 8 pin adapter
I'm sure they exist
Yeah found a couple
Not usa tho
What psu is it
fresh forge
Wish it was that easy but it isnt,the only 12 pin adapters i have found have been double 8 pins
odd siren
Wish it was that easy but it isnt,the only 12 pin adapters i have found have bee...
That's as it should be
odd siren
Depending on how they do the adapters you can have 2x8, 3x8 or 4x8, they pull the same power
fresh forge
this is the cable the 3070 FE uses. its not a standard adapter. As its an 8pin down to a 6 pin OF a 12pin
odd siren
That's odd
The pcb is wired for all 12
And it'll still draw all 12 if you use a normal one
fresh forge
All the documentation i have seen a full 8 to 12 will cause problems so that is what im trying to find out at this point.
odd siren
I just checked around
A full 12 pin actually is confirmed to work just fine
I even saw cablemod vouching for it
fresh forge
good to know
odd siren
Yeah I don't see why it wouldn't work either
Power is a pull situation
Not push
If the card wants 225W and it has 12 pins to get it from, it'll pull all 12 and no more
If it's not wired for all 12 we would've long known it'd destroy the cards by now
It should just provide redundancy and overhead
3070 FE wasn't required to use more so they cut half the adapter and went cheap
fresh forge
AH alright thats good to know.
so a 12 pin twin 8pin would work just fine. would both 8 pin need to be in the psu?
odd siren
odd siren
so a 12 pin twin 8pin would work just fine. would both 8 pin need to be in the p...
Supposedly yes
Cablemod has made a statement publicly that theirs work
If you want an easy purchase find one that's an extension
But psu full replacements do exist
fresh forge
mmm alright, PSU wont be needed my 850 is doing just fine for the moment.
fresh forge
wounderful.
odd siren
If you want a guarantee go get a cablemod replacement (if they have your psu) or extension
fresh forge
thank you.
odd siren
Cablemod is good, if the gpu melts
Just post about it
They'll often buy it
And you can go get another card
Lol
Buy or "warranty" quote unquote
If they have a replacement
Try not to drive them out of business by melting a bunch of 3070s tho
fresh forge
ok so question. why dose their s have a twin pin on the back?
odd siren
Redundancy
Just consider it safer
More pins to spread the work
At least, that's the idea
fresh forge
Well i ask becouse those two pins wont fit a 3070 there isnt enough clearnace for that on the 3070.
but ill look around for one that will know i know that a normal 12pin with 8 will work
seems almost all of them im seeing have that lip on them thankfully i did find one with should work i hope https://www.amazon.com/COMeap-Replacement-GeForce-Adapter-Corsair/dp/B08MZRNYSX/ref=sr_1_32?crid=2XND010QS2JC&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.HBV5VIDkmJTDcbXlhAamLA7c6EJ7zXq8bHT8NNBuBSUxrxMSktv-IU2A1zXViEzP9Kg9O4GX4fTGZ4_Sd0KQEjy84nYyvQFTWcN3a-WOqeW11Mi7z4bpA6N8MoJlvbUFnvtpSTRIH8KTH-NSxobb2SrOF0eQQ9KnYZ6PDPqZe9uouy2KQVUWXwTrm2AVUUlQZPJVtliBskNkvSFH_wP9g7F8BULzMlDWFYrMEcAGHVY.5bLR96Xli2groBZsTqQo8L35LrFX6Ti6wpDYDtvEY68&dib_tag=se&keywords=12+pin+pcie&qid=1740845639&sprefix=12+pin+pcie%2Caps%2C114&sr=8-32&xpid=B3grF8IcXXunP
odd siren
@fresh forge looked online and cablemod has them in the configuator
"12 pin microfit to 2x8 pin pcie"
odd siren
seems almost all of them im seeing have that lip on them thankfully i did find o...
Can't verify this brand. Never heard about it until just now
fresh forge
ill look at the one you sent
odd siren
Go here
Pick replacements if they have your psu model
Pick extensions otherwise
Replacements are safer but bound to that psu or brand/lineup
Whereas extensions are universal
Can pick extensions in both cases if you prefer
velvet grail
I guess it's just this one I should look for...?
it's the only one labeled as display
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_7800&SUBSYS_FF008086&REV_21\280800
I also tried uninstalling it but windows always picks back up that driver from I don't know where upon reboot
livid idol
8086 is Intel, 7800 appears to be the integrated gpu in a i740, and it's using the default vga.drv
Let me see if I can find a driver specific for that subsystem id
livid idol
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_7800&SUBSYS_FF008086&REV_21\280800
Have you tried this driver? 1998 release https://theretroweb.com/drivers/151
velvet grail
I'll try it out once it's done burning the driver on the cd :PepeRealizes:
I forgot the floppy disks
livid idol
CD-RW? Or are you just burning through a stack
velvet grail
they're all cr-r noooo
any way I can write that file and then reuse the cd?
I don't know a lot about writing stuff to cds and dvds
livid idol
Yeah use a cd-rw 🙃
Some drives will let you read an "unfinalized" disk but no guarantees
If you don't finalize the disk you can write more to it later but not erase
velvet grail
Yeah use a cd-rw 🙃
I only have dvd-rw but the pc only reads cds
velvet grail
do i need to format with a particular udf version for it to be read by win98?
dusk nexus
Yeah just silicon luck
Damn that’s actually really interesting. So basically if I was going to compare a sapphire card pulse vs pure I’m basically just deciding if the color is worth the extra
velvet grail
@livid idol can you also find me any drivers for the following?
mb: k7m rev1.04
cpu: amd Athlon k7700mtr51b
gpu: intel 740 8m sgram
usb: Asus usb / imr
net: 3com fast etherlink pci
if usb worked I'd probably have installed most drivers already...
hwinfo /ui also shows many errors with certain devices. is that driver related, right?
livid idol
<@396513761550270464> can you also find me any drivers for the following?
mb: k7...
Get me the PCI IDs and I can in a bit
livid idol
hwinfo /ui also shows many errors with certain devices. is that driver related, ...
Yes
velvet grail
Get me the PCI IDs and I can in a bit
many devices are labeled as system or some generic name, do I copy all of them down and then we figure out which ones I need?
cuz it's probably like a hundred devices
livid idol
Yep I'll search one by one
I'll be able to narrow it down with vendor IDs
I have a bit more time today
livid idol
Oh and it's probably best if you DM all the IDs so the chat isn't flooded
velvet grail
much better than copying down each id
took some time to find that one floppy in the messy drawer
livid idol
@velvet grail I just remembered, have you tried installing the unofficial service pack for windows 98SE? It includes all official updates and some drivers, plus other things. It'll fit on a CD. https://m.majorgeeks.com/files/details/unofficial_windows98_se_service_pack.htm
velvet grail
not yet, never heard of it before but let's give it a try
about the cd, is udf 1.50 not supported by win98?
Last cd did not read with that fs
but that's the lowest windows 10 goes, can I format it in imgburn?
craggy pier
Rebuilt my pc to fix cable management and holy temperatures
On idle
😭
Oh lord i think i found the issue
velvet grail
I recommend ISO 9660 instead
I'm stuck with the formatting part, I don't know where to set it to iso 9660
solemn panther
Hm
dusk nexus
hey all if we were to assume that the AMD benchmarks are correct how well suited would 9070xt be for 4k gaming? Im not looking to have max max graphics and i am ok using upscaling.
My other worry is how many games FSR4 will actaully be available in. Im currently using a 3080 and if the DLSS is giving me like 30-40% uplift and FSR4 isnt availible wouldnt that basically negate the entire uplift?
peak swift
If FSR4 isn't supported by a game, it probably supports FSR3
As long as you aren't wanting heavy ray tracing, and are OK using upscaling you can probably get to 4k 60fps in most things on the 9070xt. Pending third party benchmarks of course
dusk nexus
yea i have really no interest in raytracing tbh. i was hoping that it would be able to do a bit better than that tho considering its going to be around the 4080s/5070TI which from reviews ive seen averages something like 80 FPS at 4k max with no upscaling (as per HWUB charts) i was hoping to be able to hit something like 120-150 on medium and upscaling.
And maybe i think POE2 which is one of my top games only has FSR1 tbh. i cant find them listed anywhere on the AMD website
@peak swift
I currently play at 1440p with my 3080 generally maxed settings with quality/balanced upscaling and can generally max my panel 165hz on most games i play, i was hoping to stay in the same ballpark of frames but jump up a resolution
rich cedar
I currently play at 1440p with my 3080 generally maxed settings with quality/bal...
Nice. I cant wait to get my 3080 in a bit, it ships out Monday
dusk nexus
honestly a great card! only reason im upgrading is my wife's 5600xt has been really struggling to play games.
dusk nexus
i didnt even realize that damn that naming scheme is a problem
did Nvidia brick these most recent drivers? my card is screaming now as soon as i load up a game..
and its jumping to like 60c
@keen nacelle
keen nacelle
did Nvidia brick these most recent drivers? my card is screaming now as soon as ...
Yeah downgrade drivers
I haven't heard of those issues though
Only that cards were black screening and being killed by new bios
dusk nexus
oh yea its screams now when i open anything.. like i just fired up WOW... and my card can be heard like outta the room. super high frequency like sqeel
as soon as i alt-tab out it stops
dusk nexus
so im on 572.60 it recs not using 572.16 and 572.47.
Also what is ddu?
olive bobcat
?ddu
neat ventureBOT
DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU
dusk nexus
hmm. so i have the antex flux pro, which has a temp guage on the side. its also now not displaying updated temps
and the iunity software appears to not be able to find my gpu
dusk nexus
How is asrock as a GPU maker? I really wanted a white GPU and from the looks of the msrp models so far I think they are the only one that is white (plus it will go with my steel legend mobo
odd siren
oh yea its screams now when i open anything.. like i just fired up WOW... and my...
This is the second person in this server who had this happen on an nvidia card
On specifically the newer drivers
I think 572 is just completely cursed
If I catch it happening again I'm going to update the psa to just avoid all new nvidia drivers
Apparently the whine is so potentially loud it's dangerous for one's hearing
So... that's ANOTHER THING on the cards for nvidia rn
Jfc
dusk nexus
@odd siren yea man it’s BAD.. wife walked it to see what was wrong bad lol. I didn’t have time today to use the DDU so I’ll have to do it later this week
odd siren
Man loud for you too?
I will update the psa soon then
Just avoid 572 completely I think
dusk nexus
Man loud for you too?
Yea it was pretty disruptive and I’ve never had any issues with the card before
odd siren
Same as the other guy
And both 572 drivers were the only changed thing
I think they did a nasty hotfix for the black screen problem
peak swift
Nvidia really asleep at the wheel this gen. Feels like they put everybody on datacenter engineering and left 10 people to do the gaming GPUs
dusk nexus
Yea and I’m playing the same games
If I alt-tab it stops
But even in game now I’m idling up to like 65-70c I never got that hot before either
odd siren
Yea and I’m playing the same games
It can very easily be attributed to just the driver but I'll wait and see just in case it's not some crazy coincidence
I don't wanna be the guy that waits to be sure it's a driver issue but I don't wanna pin a false positive just yet
dusk nexus
It can very easily be attributed to just the driver but I'll wait and see just i...
I’ll keep an eye out, I don’t game that much during the work week to if they drop an update and it goes away I’ll let you know know
odd siren
Yes please
dusk nexus
Happy to help 🙂
Ok one way to fix it for sure tho.. it will be actually Getty my hands on the 9070xt.
Think it will be 4k worthy? Or not strong enough?
peak swift
With enough settings turned down and upscaling my 2080 super could run at 4k
I did get a 5070TI though, and that handles 4k noticeably better. 9070xt should be around that level too
odd siren
Ok one way to fix it for sure tho.. it will be actually Getty my hands on the 90...
You'll get 4K in older games, and newer games for a little bit
Would I say use that as a 4K investment for the next few years? No. It'll fall out soon enough I think
peak swift
It really depends on what you want out of 4k
odd siren
I did get a 5070TI though, and that handles 4k noticeably better. 9070xt should ...
Would kinda say this for 5070 Ti as well btw if you avoid FG
On an average perspective that is
But who knows, FG should work fairly well
And the 9070 XT might have a trick or two itself to work that
So take this with a grain of salt
Native render wise, they're getting on for quote 4K
Both should average about 80-90 fps rn
peak swift
I only play 4k on my TV, so I don't really notice the MFG input lag issues. Granted this is with Cyberpunk which is probably the most optimized MFG game in existence right now
odd siren
MFG can work too with reflex 2 going
odd siren
Lol
Fantastic, didn't know that
That was the one reason I even simped frame gen for
Welp
peak swift
I think its just Valorant and the Finals right now, with a third game coming soon(tm)
odd siren
That's just sad
peak swift
I haven't tried frame gen with kb&m yet, that is apparently where the input lag feels worst
odd siren
That was the whole reason I even got keen about msrp 50 series
odd siren
I haven't tried frame gen with kb&m yet, that is apparently where the input lag ...
Frame gen without reflex 2 is just ass
peak swift
But with a controller I haven't noticed it in cyberpunk at least
odd siren
You really really notice it at low *native fps
When you'd use fg most
Ironically
It is awful for reaction based gameplay
peak swift
Yeah still figuring out the sweet spot framerate wise
I think I'm going from ~40fps to 144fps in cyberpunk and it feels fine
odd siren
Well woeful reflex 2 support dashes any hopes of me even getting a 50 series late cycle to play with
peak swift
But I probably wouldn't play a soulslike game with it on
odd siren
I refuse to add fps for the sake of worse latency lol
odd siren
But I probably wouldn't play a soulslike game with it on
Yeah exactly this
You can notice it enough that it's not snappy
And games like MH, Souls, Tekken etc
Games that want high fps, reflex 2 would've been key