graphics-cards

[rugged thunder]

The power plugs look a bit recessed?

Unless I'm seeing it wrong

[forest oasis]

hmm

not sure

if you use individually sleeved cabled, you should be able to make a cleaner looking tight bend ig

it honestly shouldnt really matter too much

[rugged thunder]

Fair enough

Ill see when I actually get the gpu

[shell jewel]

SOMEONE FIX THE GPU EXONOMY PLEASEEEEEE

I NEED A NEW GPUUUUUU

ITS THE ONLY THING IM MISSING 😭🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[rugged thunder]

no

[solemn panther]

Wait a few months.

It's not a life necessity

[shell jewel]

YES IT IS IM GONNA JUMP IF I CANT GAME FOR 1 MORE WEEK

[forest oasis]

🦞

[solemn panther]

Holy crab!

You'll have to bend the knee to a scalper then

[rugged thunder]

That or get lucky when stalking Newegg/Amazon

That's what I did

[solemn panther]

Yeah

[solemn panther]

What card do you have atm?

[rugged thunder]

I sniped mine off Amazon just gotta be quick

Make sure to have your payment details saved

[solemn panther]

You got a 5080?

What model?

[rugged thunder]

7900xtx

Was just referring to the one I bought

An XFX XTX Merc 310

Most X possible

[solemn panther]

Oh great

[rugged thunder]

It arrives Tuesday

Can't wait

[solemn panther]

[peak swift]

Question - is there actually reporting that there will be a 5080TI? I know it makes sense from an engineering perspective with the existence of the 5090 mobile and the extra headroom on the current 5080 cards, but I'm wondering if there's anything else I'm missing

[solemn panther]

Nothing yet. I'm waiting on one too because the 5080 isn't good enough on Vram

Or performance

It's like getting a 4080 super, just one generation over my 3080ti. Not worth upgrading to "next gen".

We're just paying for software this time

[peak swift]

I was really interested before because VRAM, but the 12VHPWR stuff makes me worried about getting a theoretical 5080TI

[shell jewel]

how much?

[shell jewel]

NONEEEE I SOLD MY OLD BUILD AND I BOUGHT ALL MY PARTS AND NOW I NEED A GPU

[solemn panther]

Rip.

[solemn panther]

I was in your same situation in 2021

You'll have to use.....a bot

[shell jewel]

Wait what bot?

😜

[solemn panther]

Desperate times call for desperate measures.

[rugged thunder]

I paid 950

Amazon official listing yada yada

Not bad not amazing

I think before the mess we were in now they were usually 850-900

[peak swift]

I know they were that price last black friday, kinda regret not getting one then

[rugged thunder]

Yeah

Glad I snagged mine

I was just bored and stalking amazonf, eBay and Newegg

[shell jewel]

W

[left quiver]

Is Hotstock app delayed or just bots snatching everything up?

(I haven't tried to buy a gpu on 3 generations)

[peak swift]

The stock situation is so bad that hotstock can't keep up. The only things I've gotten pings for from there are bestbuy FE cards

If you really want notifications, there are discords that are generally better at it. Just be ready to get pinged often for overpriced bundles

[left quiver]

So which one swould that be?

[peak swift]

Asus actually has a 5080 Astral right now, but that model is basically pre-scalped lol

[left quiver]

I got 4 pings from Amazon and all were dead lol I think imma chill for a few months it looks like or if I get lucky micro center it

[left quiver]

Yeah no I'm good lol

[peak swift]

I'm in falcodrin and fixitfixitfixit

Zotac and MSI are also doing raffles for opportunities to buy cards in their discords

[left quiver]

So just to be given a chance to get bend with this prices?

[rugged thunder]

Gamble for the mere chance to buy this card

Most of which will probably be scalped anyways

[peak swift]

Pretty much. The MSI ones have all been bundles. The Zotac ones are better, but still not their cheapest sku

[left quiver]

The rx 7900 xtx is looking better n better

[rugged thunder]

Gonna use mine to only play 20 year old games

[left quiver]

My 1080 ti is still good

Sadly I got all my other parts tho

💀

[rugged thunder]

Lmao

Soon

7900xtxs will be in stock soon™️

[peak swift]

I need a GPU, so I might just treat this gen as a short term GPU. Get whatevers cheaper between a 5070 or 9070

[left quiver]

I wasn't counting on AI bubble seriously....I was gonna upgrade in the pandemic but we all know how that went

[peak swift]

Maybe a 5070TI if I can get it at MSRP

[left quiver]

Let's go freez on a micro center line buddy

👀

[peak swift]

My closest Microcenter is like 15 hours away lol

I used to work 5 minutes from one, didn't know how good I had it

[left quiver]

RIP

[peak swift]

Once the Santa Clara one opens, I'll only be 13 hours away 😭

[rugged thunder]

Rip

Closest one to me is only an hour

[left quiver]

Mine is 15 mins

I love micro center

Too bad they don't do miracles

[peak swift]

XTX in stock at newegg for $919
https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-pulse-11322-02-20g-amd-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-24gb-gddr6/p/14-202-429?Item=14-202-429&cm_sp=product-_-from-price-options

[rugged thunder]

Nice

[left quiver]

😆

Thank!

[rugged thunder]

Join the 7900xtx gang

[peak swift]

I placed the order but now I'm not sure

[left quiver]

You saved my ass from feeling like a Dumbo for 3 months or more

Just staring at my components

This will hold me till the rtx 60s series, tentative nuclear Armageddon or an alien invasion happening

[rugged thunder]

The RTX 6060ti will only have 8gb of vram at 500 dollars

[left quiver]

The rtx 6090 will be 5k and have 24g vram probably

[peak swift]

It feels weird to be buying a 2 year old card

[rugged thunder]

Never buy an AMD card at launch

Wait 2 years for drivers to get goodn

[peak swift]

I guess I can always return it if I change my mind

[left quiver]

Better than a 8 years old card hopefully?

[peak swift]

Hey, mine is only 6 years old

[left quiver]

So we both on the up and up either way haha

Win/win

Don't get scalped, don't stress hunting a rtx 50

[rich cedar]

Poor drivers vs melting cables and no vram though

[left quiver]

💀

[keen nacelle]

The last two nvidia generations have been catching fire

In comparison amds cards at launch are fine lol

[solemn panther]

@keen nacelle would you buy a 5080 due to its overclocking potential?

[random walrus]

ik you didn't ask me but personally I would only consider an FE card at MSRP

otherwise, used or AMD

[solemn panther]

Hm

Maybe I would buy one and hydro dip it white

[peak swift]

If your case has the room, idk why you wouldn't go with a partner MSRP card

[solemn panther]

I have the space for any card

The hopes of a 5080ti being released look slim. We didn't get one last gen ...

[keen nacelle]

No

Not unless you get it under or at $1100, and even then it's a very hard sell when an xtx was $830

[solemn panther]

[keen nacelle]

9070xt

[left quiver]

Will they(AMD) release anything above that?

Like something equivalent or close to a 5080?

[peak swift]

There's rumors of a 32GB AMD card, but that might just be for AI

Otherwise they have publicly said they are skipping the upper end this generation

[keen nacelle]

What alf said, but i believe it'll be at least semi gaming focused

I doubt it'll be anywhere near $2000, and I believe it'll outperform the 5080 but not quite match the 5090.

[solemn panther]

Oof

[keen nacelle]

This is just opinion btw

Pls don't take it as fact

[solemn panther]

I almost became a believer

[rugged thunder]

A shame

7900xtx could be the last of its kind for a while

[left quiver]

That's find most people aren't even in that halo range anyways.

[tough mica]

my rtx 3060 ti is on its death I can't even play triple A/high settings without the engine car noise

Should I wait for 50x series or buy 4070 TI

[heady turtle]

Sounds like it's just a fan that's dying, no big deal tbh, you can even by replacement fans for like 10$

[tough mica]

I'd like to upgrade ngl

[heady turtle]

I'd wait til the other gpus drop personally

The 9070xt and 5070 ti may be decent choices

[tough mica]

normally when they become available

[olive bobcat]

I’d go 4080 ti/super or 7900XT
if you don’t wanna spend a fortune on scalpers

[tough mica]

since I will never get it day 1

5 7 months?

[peak swift]

If anyone is still desperate for a 5080, they brought the shuffle back lmao

https://www.newegg.com/product-shuffle

It really is just like the 30 series launch

[solemn panther]

Ah

The prices on these cards…..why even

[peak swift]

MSRP is dead

[forest oasis]

i wouldn't even buy it for msrp considering the current issues

[peak swift]

I might, but mainly because I expect tariffs to increase prices further soon

The issues definitely killed any enthusiasm I had for the 5090

[livid idol]

I'm not touching anything with Nvidia's 16 pin plug until they fix the melting problems

Which they can do by going back to the 3090 ti power delivery design

[peak swift]

But even that only works if they stay under 600w lol. How tf are they gonna power the 6090?

[forest oasis]

double the connectors 2x 12vhpwr

double the house fires

at some point we gotta switch to like 24v i swear

the amount of power required is getting crazy

there is a reason why alot of more industrial devices use 24 or even 48v

or rather multiple reasons

[modern marsh]

does anyone know how many people will be selected for the shuffle?

[solemn panther]

no idea

its never disclosed

just hope that youre selected

[peak swift]

Just assume you won't be selected

[ionic river]

No luck here either

[rugged thunder]

Ggez just get lucky

[peak swift]

You see the AIB prices for next week? Get ready for $900 5070 TIs

[left quiver]

That's hilarious 😂 my 7900 xtx is looking better and better

[rich cedar]

“Lets give them their moneys worth” -Not Nvidia

[raven wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-jensen-huang-the-more-you-buy-the-more-you-save-keynote-2018-gif-12315008507302833354

[left quiver]

[solemn panther]

smh

[dapper prawn]

Will Newegg carry the Asus Astral 5090 LC? I can't find the listing for it.

[heady turtle]

probably

[hollow bramble]

that's a fools gpu so they probably will

[livid idol]

They'll have it at some point but stock is scarce right now. It'll probably be in a shuffle.

[rich cedar]

The company is basically a meme at this point

All the youtubers seem bummed Nvidia doesn’t have any competition

I don’t think their numbers are ones you wanna be competing with sir

[livid idol]

Not at the high end they don't but that's a pretty small % of gamers

[rich cedar]

Yall see the 5070s are gonna be like 1k?

[livid idol]

That was a partner model that isn't msrp in that leak

[rich cedar]

Ah

Still

[raven wharf]

we are so cooked

[rich cedar]

You better wine and dine me before i get F’ed like that

[livid idol]

9070 XT might be $850 after all too
Totally called it

[raven wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-no-wait-wait-wait-gif-23893070

[rich cedar]

For the top end model that’s really not bad considering Nvidia is probably gonna start around there for a 5060 8gig

[raven wharf]

"really not bad"

[livid idol]

Sir this is the equivalent of a 70 class card

[rich cedar]

Hmm

So it comes in lower than a 70 class?

[livid idol]

No it'll be between the 5070 ti and 5080 somewhere depending on the game, not including ray tracing

Counting ray tracing it'll be more like a 5070 ti

[rich cedar]

Holy cow 549 msrp?

[raven wharf]

so why dont they just price it competitivelyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[livid idol]

msrp is meaningless now anyway

[raven wharf]

they keep saying

[rich cedar]

Welp hold on lol

[raven wharf]

they want more marketshare

they say they are listening to us

clearly not

[livid idol]

gpu prices are wack right now, the msrp might be $600 but after tariffs it's over $750

[raven wharf]

nvidia is in the worst possible spot that they can totally take advantage of

and they just wont

[rich cedar]

Apparently 749 is what people have seen the 5070TI at

[livid idol]

It's not going to matter for most people anyway. Here's what 40% of the market is according to the Steam survey.

[left quiver]

why do i feel amd would still mess it up even with 1k rtx 5070

[livid idol]

More people are still rocking a 1650 than people with a 3070

[left quiver]

[rich cedar]

We need another 16 series

They wont do that though

They cant rip people off enough making budget cards

[livid idol]

Less than 1%

4080+4080 super is 1.5%

AMD can afford to lose 2.5% of the market opportunity, especially since they weren't buying AMD anyway

💀

[rich cedar]

I just hope they have a nice 12-16 gig card for under or around 400 dollars this gen, AMD

[left quiver]

any word on the price for rx 9070 xt?

[livid idol]

Just leaks of partner models that aren't msrp

One of which was $850

[left quiver]

what are those around?

ah

well thats not good

[livid idol]

again that's not msrp and is probably accounting for tariffs

[livid idol]

9060 XT is 12GB

[rich cedar]

They announced it?

[left quiver]

hopefully this whole tariff thing is temporary n just a negotiating strategy

[rich cedar]

Its an attempt to get more manufacturing back to the US which I am all for

[livid idol]

Not officially but almost everyone has that as the current leak

[rich cedar]

But the price increases suck

[rich cedar]

Niceee

[livid idol]

The key point to this would have been to put tariffs on things that we're actually capable of producing. We are not even close to capable of making GPUs yet.

[left quiver]

im curious would that make them even more pricier?

[rich cedar]

Fair

[rich cedar]

Im not sure tbh

[left quiver]

i tot we were building a factory in arizona?

[rich cedar]

I know they wouldn’t get stuck on boats in canals overseas though lol

[left quiver]

lol

[rich cedar]

Yeah TSMC is building something here on our soil

[livid idol]

And one in Texas but both are years away from full scale production

[left quiver]

ahh i see....bummer but at least then we'll have more supply here(US,Canada n Mexico)

[rich cedar]

Exactly

[left quiver]

also F!$@# scalpers then

😆

[livid idol]

On that note... the newegg shuffle is back

[rich cedar]

I don’t want to get into the politics of it, but I think the pain we are experiencing now will be worth it in the long run for people here in the US

[left quiver]

whats that?

[livid idol]

Lottery to buy a gpu

[left quiver]

i think so too

[livid idol]

instead of just "fastest bot wins" you enter a lottery

[left quiver]

to buy it?

[livid idol]

Yes

[left quiver]

oh so the privilage to get bend

[rich cedar]

Yeah

[left quiver]

[rich cedar]

No lube either lmaooo

[livid idol]

I got a 3090 from the shuffle... worst decision ever lmao

It was bundled with the famous P850GM power supply

https://tenor.com/view/gigabyte-psu-explodes-gamers-nexus-power-supply-gif-23202345

[rich cedar]

Unless that GPU is making me money I won’t ever spend that kinda money on it

[left quiver]

i waited n waited, pandemic, trade war n now AI boom wth lol

[peak swift]

We don't need the pain though. The way this is supposed to work is you don't start the tariffs until local manufacturing is ready, the tariffs are too early

[rich cedar]

Ah

I don’t really know the intricacies of our situation tbh

I just know we are trying to get our finances back in shape and tarrifs are part of it

[left quiver]

that makes a little more sense

[peak swift]

But yeah the 9070XT prices kinda suck

[livid idol]

The really unfortunate part of using tariffs is the cost is passed directly to the consumer

[left quiver]

i just find it dumb we dont make anything n depend on everyone, specially our adversaries but alas i dont wanna get polictical

[livid idol]

It makes sense to produce the silicon in Asia, that's where the raw materials are

[rich cedar]

We assemble things though lol

[peak swift]

Now I feel like I need to get back on the Nvidia stock trackers to nab a 5070 TI

[left quiver]

i just really hope AMD dont snatch defeat from the jaws of victory somehow

thats what you are aiming for?

[peak swift]

I know, its weird. The tariffs also apply to raw materials which we have to get from there anyway

[rich cedar]

I really wouldn’t touch team green atm but its up to uou

[livid idol]

Melting cables are coming back with a vengeance so yes I'd avoid Nvidia

[left quiver]

this whole melting thing is making me stay away from team green

[livid idol]

We've already seen 5080s melt

[left quiver]

no way

[peak swift]

The 5070 TI should be fine. It has less draw than a 4080

[left quiver]

but its nowhere near the power consumtion of a 5090

[livid idol]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/rtx-5080-power-cable-allegedly-melts-at-psu-redditor-reports-another-50-series-failure

[left quiver]

arent those cables rated 600v?

[livid idol]

There's a VERY deep rabbit hole to fall into for this one

[peak swift]

Yes, but the spec is bad

[left quiver]

oh??

[peak swift]

TLDR they left comically little headroom for that rating

[rich cedar]

Just price to performance is horrible

I don’t like seeing people waste money

[left quiver]

why not put 2 16pin then?

[livid idol]

Why not indeed

Ask the nvidiot engineers

[left quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-one-piece-thinking-hmm-anime-gif-17275096

[rich cedar]

Nvidiots

LMAO

i love that

[left quiver]

lol

anyone here got a rtx 50 series?

how is dlls4?

[rich cedar]

Nvidiots are the people buying the cards IMO

[left quiver]

or ppl that want a campfire on the poor pcs

[livid idol]

https://youtu.be/oB75fEt7tH0?si=aaE-1Rzn8kvw_Nsv
https://youtu.be/kb5YzMoVQyw?si=rz9HNLbnncvUnWP5

[peak swift]

The price to performance we previously had might be dead. None of these cards seem very good compared to last gen

[livid idol]

https://youtu.be/9ptUApTshik?si=1A9GNBRLVOkqh_5_

[left quiver]

well they been price anchoring since the 20 series this was gonna happen eventually now we are just stuck with a monopoly bc amd cant get their head off their butt

[livid idol]

This is just the high end stuff, which accounts for very little of the actual market

[peak swift]

I would try testing on my 2080, but Nvidias new drivers break one of my displays so I can't yet

[left quiver]

tbh everyone gives amd a hard time but they are the best price to perfomace, i would love if they had a more solid drivers department

[rich cedar]

A loud minority sort of thing?

[livid idol]

Precisely

[peak swift]

How much do you think the 5060 will cost? MSRP and what AIBs will charge

[livid idol]

No idea, too early and prices are too volatile right now

[rich cedar]

I saw rumors of like 4 something for a 5060

[left quiver]

they can probly charge as much as they want, with all the FOMO thats going on and uncertainty with tariffs n all that

[peak swift]

I could see 400 for MSRP, with AIBs charging 500

[livid idol]

(pre tariff)

[left quiver]

rumors?

i wish i got my gpu before christmas n now i am filled with regret but giving amd a chance

[peak swift]

My prediction is the price hikes will hit the mainstream pretty hard too

[left quiver]

wait till nvidia isnt catching on fire n inv is more avaliable

arent we the mainstream?

👀

[peak swift]

See this

[livid idol]

The only high end GPU from Nvidia I'd trust right now is the Asus 5090 Astral. It can actually warn you if your cables are screwy so you can reseat the 12V-2x6 connector.

[left quiver]

ah i see

[livid idol]

ofc that's a $3200 GPU

[left quiver]

i would hope so for that price n also take my dog out n feed him and walk him for 3k

[livid idol]

Literally costs more than a used car in some cases

[peak swift]

You think the other AIBs will start putting that in new designs? I know MSI had some models at CES that aren't out yet

[left quiver]

i wonder how much it actually cost nvidia to make the rtx 5090

per unit

[livid idol]

They will never publish those numbers and the real data is tightly controlled. Only the top executives would know.

And even then they'd take a while to figure it out

[left quiver]

carzy profit margins for sure

[livid idol]

You'd be surprised I think

The real profit margin is in the mid range

[left quiver]

but even so we(gamers) are getting the cold shoulder

[peak swift]

Hopefully I can snag a PNY card on the 20th. They're the ones least affected by tariffs

[left quiver]

bc of the volume?

[livid idol]

The top end cards cost so much in the way of R&D that the high end models aren't profitable for a long time

[left quiver]

how come?

are they from here?

[peak swift]

Yes, they do some manufacturing in New Jersey I think

[left quiver]

oh niceee, shorter supply chain

[livid idol]

Also watch Zotac's website, they've been doing direct sales to customers and have a lottery system like Newegg does to pick people that can buy them

[left quiver]

tru their discord?

[peak swift]

Good point. I've stopped checking the site since they removed the MSRP 5080/90 card but they might have some there for the 70TI at launch

[livid idol]

yes

Here's the most based take ever

Any kind of “manipulation” or “cheating” won’t be tolerated either, Zotac says. Furthermore, the board maker will keep an eye on reselling activity, with serial numbers of GPUs that are bought being recorded, and a threat of publicly exposing any scalper who does resell their graphics card.

[peak swift]

Zotac is doing raffles for the solid oc and amp extreme infinity skus

[left quiver]

when does nvidia ususally release lets say an rtx 5080ti/super after first initial lunch of gpus?

[peak swift]

And also a prebuilt with a 5090, but that's ridiculously expensive

[livid idol]

It depends on if they even need to

They only do that if AMD has cards poised right to threaten them

[rich cedar]

Ah yeah 500 for an 8 gig card

[peak swift]

Maybe they'll do a revision that doesn't catch on fire

[left quiver]

unlikely no? for amd to challenge them at the 5080 range?

[livid idol]

They already have that though

It's called a 7900 XTX

[left quiver]

that would be nice! unless.... its a feature to sell more gpus

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-question-mark-huh-what-anime-gif-7762937667050644475

[peak swift]

The 5080 Totally Inflammable (TI)

[left quiver]

ah yes i am gettin one of those soon hehe

aint nobody waiting for some fire hazard to be in stock

[livid idol]

What I could see happening is an add in piece that attaches to the GPU 12V-2x6 connector and monitors each pin for anomalies, because Nvidia cba to do it like they did in the past

[peak swift]

I mean, tons of people are doing this right now lol

[rich cedar]

The entire Nvidiot discord is waiting for this

[left quiver]

i mean thos 24gs of vram are pretty nice

[livid idol]

What 24gb vram card

That was the 4090

5080 has 16

[rich cedar]

What a joke

[left quiver]

whats the possiblilty of nvidia abandoning their consumer products(gpus in this case) to dedicate themselves to AI n corpo sector

[livid idol]

5090 has 32

[rich cedar]

I feel like that’s honestly what they are going towards

[left quiver]

oh i mean the 7900 xtx

[livid idol]

I give it 2 generations if the AI bubble doesn't pop

[peak swift]

Or they add the 3 shunt resistors like the 3090 had

[left quiver]

damn

[rich cedar]

They have shown they don’t care about consumers and most of their i income is AI

[livid idol]

But that doesn't fix the cards already launched

[left quiver]

or we all get murder by terminators, n it was all thanks to nvidia

[peak swift]

This has always been somewhat true tbh, its just way worse now. Even before the AI bubble Nvidia made most of its money from things like selling Quatros to business

[left quiver]

it feels like they got gpu in autopilot n testing how much they can get away with....which is alot as we've seen lol

[livid idol]

We already have AI that insists that it's in love, and we have an AI that will sabotage a server to save itself and lie about it, so we're pretty far along that timeline already

[left quiver]

just dont give it accest to our nukes n should prbly invest in more emp warheads for insurance

[livid idol]

Luckily those systems are airgapped so there's no way to get in unless you're physically on site

[left quiver]

dont underestimate gooberment dumb-assery

[livid idol]

Movies don't tell you that, they like to imagine the launch control computer is a few keystrokes away

[left quiver]

but yes i feel like that too, 2 more gens at most

[peak swift]

Yeah based on how frustrating it is to help debug some issue in airgap, we are probably good for now

[left quiver]

then who are we left with amd? intel? how is intel i dont know much about them tbh

[livid idol]

The silos are under military jurisdiction, if you get caught with so much as an unauthorized flash drive you forgot about in your back pocket as you go through the scanners you're looking at a court martial

[peak swift]

Very promising on the low end, but their CPU problems might sink them as a company before they start competing with Nvidia at the high end

It's more than just the CPU issues to be fair I guess, but that company is not ok right now

[left quiver]

im not worried about the on the ground personnel, im worried about top military decisions makers bumb-assery

[left quiver]

its that bad? wow

would they then get bought by amd then?

[livid idol]

Intel's latest generation was a MAJOR flop that every reviewer said to just stay away from

[left quiver]

it was temps right?

[livid idol]

It'll be a cold day in hell when the US gov lets that happen

[peak swift]

They are also losing ground to AMD and ARM in datacenters

[livid idol]

Not even remotely that

[left quiver]

why not? dont they love monopolies? big pharma would agree?

[peak swift]

Half the datacenters being made today are AI datacenters which Intel can't compete with AMD even

[left quiver]

so overall they are on life support then...

what do they do good now?

[livid idol]

Intel managed to make a flagship CPU that loses to the predecessor by a large margin in a lot of games

[left quiver]

uh??

[peak swift]

They still beat AMD for highly multithreaded workloads

But that gap is closing

[left quiver]

so are they competitive on productivity?

[livid idol]

https://youtu.be/y4nC0e32n0s?si=Wyy4P5n7H-7c8lAT&t=499
Time stamped for your convenience

[livid idol]

No

[left quiver]

feels bad, i grew up with intel

[peak swift]

Oh, their mobile stuff is actually good

Not for gaming, but for performance on a long battery life

[livid idol]

There's a lot more competition in mobile now though. Qualcomm has made huge strides and Apple M series is legit.

[left quiver]

whats the problem? leadership? talent? or...??

[peak swift]

I think the Intel mobile chips have killed a lot of Qualcomms momentum. Why get a Snapdragon laptop with compatibility issues when the new Intel chips have just as long of a battery life?

[livid idol]

They got fat and complacent when they had a comfortable lead over AMD. It was the tortoise and the hare. AMD blew past while Intel was sleeping.

[peak swift]

M series is amazing though, nobody can compete with that for productivity

[livid idol]

This is over the course of 3 different CEOs too, so you can't really blame just the top level

[left quiver]

tsk tsk tsk, tech companies should operate like nvidia where they are always pushing, i dont like their pricing strategies but they are innovative

so in other words it was systemic

[peak swift]

They will likely never die though. The US gov would buy them or bail them out in some way

[livid idol]

Intel had 8 years where their top i7 CPU was only 4 cores and 8 threads

[left quiver]

hopefully they bounce back bc the last thing we need is amd having a cpu monopoly like nvidia does in the gpu space

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-girl-skared-feel-bad-sorry-gif-14587007170547437610

[livid idol]

Intel would get bailed out if it came to that

"too big to fail" doesn't just apply to banks

[peak swift]

I think we are still a long ways away from AMD being a monopoly like Nvidia

[livid idol]

Oh and I have bad news on that front, the next gen Intel 300 series is not better

[left quiver]

It will happend much faster if intel is gone tho

[left quiver]

How so?

[livid idol]

Intel has been struggling with their chiplet tile design

It's essentially like when AMD first launched Ryzen, they have the same problems with latency as AMD did then

Think of it like this is Intel's Ryzen 1000 series, interesting as a design concept but ultimately not good at all. Next gen is Ryzen 2000, some minor improvements are made but overall it's still a pass compared to the competition.

[peak swift]

Do you think AMD ever figures out a chiplet GPU?

[livid idol]

They arguably already have

The Infinity Fabric was their turning point

That was massively improved with 3000 series, and it's gotten better since then

The current issue is core parking on multi-ccd CPUs causing stuttering

[peak swift]

That's my pie-in-the-sky hope. That AMD makes a big leap in a generation or two that lets them really compete again with Nvidia

[livid idol]

This is the 6900 XT, it uses concepts similar to their CPU sector for chiplets

And here's the 7900 XTX

They centralized a lot of the functions but the main compute cores are still isolated similar to chiplets

[peak swift]

Interesting

Now they just gotta slap a bunch of extra cache on it lol

[livid idol]

This design has an added bonus that if one of the "chiplets" has a defect they can just fuse off that part and reuse the rest of it as a lower tier GPU

[peak swift]

That's how that works, right?

[livid idol]

If only it was that easy lol

Ooh here's a nice slide that labels everything

And yeah they did basically slap a bunch more cache on it

[rich cedar]

Do you think Nvidia will ever get broken up?

[livid idol]

Not unless they're forced to

Anti trust laws are a joke so don't count on it

It took, what, 15 years for them to catch on that google wasn't playing fair?

[peak swift]

If Microsoft didn't get broken up in the 90s I doubt any other tech company will today

[raven wharf]

is the 6950 xt identical

[livid idol]

Yes, the only difference on the 6950 is the memory

[rich cedar]

Certified Nvidiot moment

[celest wave]

some people have more money than sense

[rugged thunder]

Why wait a few months? Just pay scalpers 6k for a 2k card

[left quiver]

Imagine buying it from scalpers and then it melts anyways? Lol

[rich cedar]

Ikr

[rich cedar]

Card aint even worth that

[rugged thunder]

Shhhh he believes it

[rich cedar]

Fair

[rugged thunder]

Some people wish to stay delusional

Can't imagine any PC part being worth paying over a grand for

Even then a grand is an insane amount

[rich cedar]

Same

The madness wont end

Their fanbase is too rich

[rugged thunder]

Pay 2 grand for some PC part
Plug it in
You immediately smell burning plastic

[rich cedar]

How much was your 4070?

[rugged thunder]

Got it for like 400 bucks

[rich cedar]

Goddang

[rugged thunder]

Not exactly amazing but meh

[rich cedar]

I thought you were gonna say 7-900

[rugged thunder]

Energy efficiency is nice

[rugged thunder]

No Lmao

I ain't paying no 900 bucks for a 4070

[rich cedar]

Wait thats 50 series hehe

[rugged thunder]

12gb of vram and all

I did just grab a 7900xtx I'm waiting on

Thanks Amazon

[rich cedar]

5070s are still gonna be a grand im calling it

[rugged thunder]

But it's better than a 4090

Nvidia said so

[rich cedar]

The more you buy the more you save

[rugged thunder]

Truly revolutionary

[rich cedar]

What is there to lose? Your already overpaying

[rugged thunder]

Nvidia will never see any genuine push back anyhow

[rich cedar]

They are too big

[rugged thunder]

Nerds complaining online won't tank sales

You see someone with a persona pfp complaining about your GPU you don't take that seriously

[rich cedar]

1 of 2 things should happen IMO

[rugged thunder]

🙏

[rich cedar]

1: break up the monopoly

2: quit buying the sh!t

Both are unlikely

[rugged thunder]

It is what it is

It's unfortunate but that's just how it's gonna be for a while

Nvidia doesn't need to depend on gamers for sales anyways

[rich cedar]

And that’s what people are starting to realize

I love reading YT comments about the downfall of all of this lol

[rugged thunder]

My multi billion dollar corporation is better than your multi trillion dollars corporation

[rich cedar]

Someone last night said, just give it 1-2 more generations then people will have had enough of them or something

I just need AMD to pull out something good lol

A sub 400 dollar 12 gig card like a 9060 would be perfect

[rugged thunder]

I'm gonna rock the 7900xtx for a few generations

I'm at 1440p so it should have no issues running anything non rt related

[rich cedar]

Yeah

[rugged thunder]

Oh boy can't wait to get my top end GPU just to play persona 3 fes

[wicked hound]

Tiled is cool tho cuz it can actually be applied to mobile market afaik. Doesnt suffer from chiplet issue of high IO die power consumption

[junior locust]

P sure the mobile AMD chips are monolithic

[wicked hound]

Ye cuz AMD cant apply their chiplet design to mobile. Idle power consumption is way too high for mobile. Which is why Im excited for tiled, seems like an upgrade to chiplet. But also means Intel is going to "die" for a few gens until they get tiled mature like with AMD and their chiplet

[sacred cargo]

I've been experiencing stutters ever since I switched from my old 1060 to a 6600 recently.

I have a dual monitor set-up (144hz and 60hz) and ive seen threads that say AMD reverts to the lower refresh rate which is why I get stuttering

Anyone have any experience with this? I've used DDU to install and reinstall AMD drivers, updated chipsets etc

[heady turtle]

Did you ddu the nvidia drivers too?

No the 2 refresh rates shouldn't be a problem at all

[sacred cargo]

Yep, DDU'd the Nvidia drivers prior to changing. I also DDU'd to reinstall drivers on my AMD card just to be thorough but seems the problem still persists

I've tried the UFO Test and it shows a Major Stuttering warning when I play a YouTube video on the 60hz monitor

[crimson saffron]

How often are the stutters?

[sacred cargo]

essentially when I have a game on the main display then have youtube or any animation on the secondary (notifications etc)

Even lighter titles like Hades and DOTA get stutters. Marvel Rivals is just a mess when I have a borwser playing a video

I also just tried bumping the main display down to 60hz and no warning messages on UFO Test

[crimson saffron]

I used to have the same issue in the past, I had a sideshow as my wallpaper, I disabled it and just used a static image and it fixed it

[sacred cargo]

odd since I've only had static wallpapers!

[left quiver]

Damn

N it still there

Even bots think it's a scam

[peak swift]

It's bugged

If you try to checkout it fails and sends you back to cart

[left quiver]

This makes way more sense

The less you but the more you save

[peak swift]

The $1650 Astral came in stock too and sold out immediately

[left quiver]

Humans are hopeless

[peak swift]

I'd be willing to pay 10% over MSRP, maybe 20%

Definitely not 40%

[left quiver]

I just want msrp

Even that is inflated lol will the prices hikes go down if tariffs are gone?

[peak swift]

I don't think tariffs go away this generation. If anything they get worse

[native temple]

I’m literally never getting a gpu 😔 is a 5080 or 7900 xtx too much to ask

[left quiver]

Those 7900 xtx are easier to get tho?

[gray dagger]

NewEgg should put the whole stock on the shuffle instead of doing normal drops at this rate

[peak swift]

Like the president has talked about tariffs on all Taiwanese chips. If that happens its over, price will go to the moon

[peak swift]

fwiw I don't think these are normal drops. When they're this small in quantity that usually means someone returned or cancelled

[left quiver]

Hopefully that would be temporary while supply chain are built here

[native temple]

You’d think they would be but it seems like it’s constantly sold out like the 5080s and 90s

[left quiver]

You got hotstock app?

I've got 6 notices of that model in the last month

So you just gotta be on top of that

[gray dagger]

Ive got hotstock and im on it 24/7 with auto buy and still cant get a dam card

[peak swift]

If you're looking for a 50 series card, hotstock is way too slow

You gotta join a stock tracking discord

[left quiver]

[left quiver]

Even that sometimes is too slow

[gray dagger]

What discord you recommend?

[peak swift]

True, but most of the time hotstock doesn't even catch it. With the discords at least I can get as far as adding it to cart

Falcodrin, NowInStock, FixitFixitFixit, there are a quite a few

Just follow the instructions so you get the right pings

[left quiver]

Wouldn't it be funny of the market moves back to brick and mortar stores because of bots ?

[peak swift]

Use apple pay if you can because its the fastest checkout

[native temple]

I would honestly love that. Put a micro center in every state

[left quiver]

That's true I got my xtx because of this discord, but got my gf 5080 bc of hotstock. I think of got lucky then, I'm just gonna wait for a msrp 5090

[celest wave]

I got my xtx because of HotStock but bebuy decided it didn’t need a box

[velvet grail]

can somebody help me find drivers for this card? win98 compatible

I previously downloaded some generic i740 drivers but they work partially, giving an error at startup and not allowing me to set a higher res

[livid idol]

What's the PCI ID

Or rather hardware address since it's not PCI

[forest oasis]

damn, agp slot gpu

[livid idol]

hwinfo /ui gives you a window like this, you can scroll down to the GPU and you'll get a "registry key" which includes the hardware ID

[livid idol]

5070 ti starts at $900 even though msrp is supposedly $750 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgAb5bmcTjk
Includes minor embargo violations 🙃

No 5070 ti FE either

[odd siren]

Why am I not surprised

[livid idol]

This also throws a wrench into the review cycle because models being sold above msrp can't be reviewed until launch day

So there won't be any reviews until the 20th unless someone else violates embargo

Oh wait no Nvidia sent it to him and told him to review it like a msrp card lmfao

That's not going to happen

[odd siren]

Wtf

So they tell him to use msrp when no cards will be msrp

You wot nvidia

[peak swift]

Somehow all the AIBs decided that 10% tariffs mean 20% price increases

[livid idol]

There was already an inactive 10% tariff, adding the additional 10% activated the original tariff. And this applies to a lot more than tech.

[peak swift]

I see, I didn't know about the first part

[livid idol]

Most people don't

I'd say the vast majority misunderstand tariffs at a basic level in some way

[peak swift]

To be fair, they are really confusing

[livid idol]

Oh absolutely

And the misinformation going around doesn't help

[peak swift]

Welp

I guess I'll try for the PNY card

Because I don't expect that to stay at MSRP for long

[livid idol]

No way anyone can justify $1000 for a supposedly 70 class GPU so this looks DOA until people have no other choice and we're back to 2020 scalping

[odd siren]

This all makes sense now

Delay 5070 Ti and reviews until launch

Run $900 price

AMD realised this and now $750 for 9070 XT on the cards

So it'll be an undercut

Just looks bad after tariffs

But it's easily lesser evil

Question is, will it be enough

Imo no that's still too high if they want market share

Praying for 699

Wanted 599 but 699 might still be possible

[peak swift]

Tariffs apply to AMD cards too though

My guess is they won't include them in MSRP

[livid idol]

We're not sure if the leaked AMD prices include tariffs

[odd siren]

I need them to live up to their words of beating a 7800XT for price/perf

[rich cedar]

Man if we have a 900 dollar 5070 this must mean the 5060 will be at LEAST 700 dollars right?

[raven wharf]

if the 5070 is better than the 4090 i cant wait for the 5060 to out perform the 4070 ti super!1!1!

[livid idol]

If the 5070 is better than the 4090 then it's a steal since the 5080 isn't even better than the 4090

[forest oasis]

real

if the 5070 was better than the 4090 then nvidia would have probably announced it with the 5080 and 5090

[raven wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-talking-invetigating-mad-explain-gif-16881825

https://tenor.com/view/stay-with-me-now-meme-gif-15503099966413958634

[odd siren]

😂

[raven wharf]

we are so cooked

why does the economy and prices have to be so high on everything when its my turn to be an adult

that needs a pin ngl

[rich cedar]

GamerNexus’s video on the matter was freaking hilarious

You could just tell he is starting to go insane lol

I seem to have been banned from the Nvidia discord. Hmm.

[raven wharf]

what did you do lol

[rich cedar]

I spectated too long i guess

[rugged thunder]

They knew you were a spy

[rich cedar]

Eh

Maybe? Idk

I cant ever remember trashtalking the brand there

[peak swift]

Darn, you should have asked them about this before you left

https://www.dsogaming.com/news/nvidia-rtx50-series-doesnt-support-gpu-physx-for-32-bit-games/

[rugged thunder]

Best Nvidia update

[little slate]

Anyone have any idea of the shuffle is coming up again any time soon? I feel like it's my only chance at a 5090

[rich cedar]

Don’t bother with a 5090 pleaseeeeeeee

You really don’t want one like you think, they are currently an absolute mess

Just wait till they come down in price, spend an eye watering amount of money on something smarter

You’ve got FOMO and i can garentee you aren’t missing out on anything at all

[rugged thunder]

Unless you're gaming at 4k don't bother with it

[rich cedar]

I mean seriously do not bother right now lol

Not sure if you have seen reviews or anything

[rugged thunder]

I haven't I don't even bother

I got my card I'm chilling

[rich cedar]

I know, some people have more money than sense lol

[rugged thunder]

Yeah guys I'm paying 6000 for a GPU

They pay the scalpers and wonder why scalpers keep scalping

[rich cedar]

Mhm

Or 9,000 dollars for a bucket of parts that doesn’t even add up to a PC

😂

[rugged thunder]

[peak swift]

I was originally in the hunt for a 5090, but this whole generation seems more trouble than it's worth. I'll get an 80 or a 70 TI if I can find it at MSRP but otherwise I'm ok waiting

[rich cedar]

Your money would probably go further elsewhere tbh

Unless you absolutely need the Nvidia features

[peak swift]

At msrp?

[rich cedar]

Yeah, even at msrp

[peak swift]

Which card is better?

[rich cedar]

For the money, you could probably get a 7900 XT for lower

Intel doesn’t currently have anything around that range. That’s the only reason I suggested AMD.

[peak swift]

Best deal I've seen recently for the 7900XT is $720, so idk if that is better value

[left quiver]

Unused/dusty static stock

[peak swift]

If it was like $650 it would definitely be a better deal than the 5070TI

[rugged thunder]

No lowballs I know what I have

[peak swift]

Damn, you have 7900XTX and a 7900XT

[rugged thunder]

How else will I run super smash brothers melee

[peak swift]

On the Nintendo GameCube

[rugged thunder]

nuh uh

Have you seen GameCube prices

[peak swift]

I am interested in the 9070 XT which should be in that price range, but it's hard to say without knowing the performance yet

[odd siren]

Damn didn't expect that even gamecubes are worth as much as a 5070ti*

Next you'll tell me gravity stops working tomorrow

This world so weird now

[peak swift]

The Wii also works

[odd siren]

I can now no longer read that word without hearing the store music

Lol

[forest oasis]

cooked

[craggy pier]

Wait what

[odd siren]

Did bro really just wait what me in 2 chats

Lol

[craggy pier]

Oop i did?

The fact it was unintentional too

[odd siren]

Ikr lmao

[craggy pier]

Genuinely talented

[forest oasis]

what can i say, felix is truly an enigma

[odd siren]

What can I say

I get ban

343

[craggy pier]

I can say anything

[forest oasis]

prove it

[craggy pier]

I didnt say without consequences

But i can

[forest oasis]

there is no proof

[craggy pier]

I dont need to prove it to you

[odd siren]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-australia-upside-down-gif-26847241

[craggy pier]

Just have blind faith in me

[forest oasis]

[craggy pier]

Did you pick that gif because youre australian?

[odd siren]

I picked it cos ur right

As well

[keen nacelle]

https://www.zotacstore.com/us/zt-a30900d-10p-r

[peak swift]

Thanks

[keen nacelle]

Not a crazy deal but its smthn

[peak swift]

Probably not gonna get it though, only a 90 day warranty on a refurb is too little for me

[keen nacelle]

Fair enough

[worn matrix]

I just want a 5090! 😭 before GT6

[rich cedar]

No you don’t 😂

There will be plenty of them soon i think

[peak swift]

Didn't you hear? That one leaker said Nvidia was going to make 5090s instead of GB200s, which make them way more money

[left quiver]

[raven wharf]

you dont want a 5090

its an overpriced, scalped, halo product that isnt much better than the 4090 and will burn itself alive

[rich cedar]

Why does this remind me of that one scene from Christmas vacation where Clark calls his boss all those names? 😂

[lilac flume]

Except they aren’t selling them.

[livid idol]

Well the reviews are in and it looks pretty unanimous

[rich cedar]

It was DOA lol

Wym

[odd siren]

Ah I don't like this

I just realised if this is the 5070 Ti, the 9070XT basically sits at parity

They CANNOT LAUNCH AT 749

They will fail

Wouldn't matter that the 5070 Ti is more a $900 card, the mindset from the reviews is everyone will say it's as bad

699 would do it

And it needs to hold on

[solemn panther]

5070ti 😭

[odd siren]

Didn't even beat the 4080 dood

[solemn panther]

NgreedAi doesn't care about how we feel, it's all calculated.

enterprises are the future

Gamers are the past. Just a bunch of second rate customers

[solemn panther]

Don't worry ..this is the 5070ti, not the 5070

Jensen never lies

[odd siren]

[rich cedar]

The more you buy the more you save wasnt a lie?

[solemn panther]

Yeah it's the truth

The more expensive a gpu you buy, the more money you save by not buying the next gen and the one after that because of the power.

[rich cedar]

🫤

[solemn panther]

[rich cedar]

Tis your money to waste lol

[solemn panther]

Lmao

[peak swift]

If he keeps waiting for the 5080ti, he might save a lot of money lol

[rich cedar]

I just realized a 3080 might be within reach for me

I know, i know screw Nvidia but, i wouldnt buy anything new and it outperforms the 7700XT I’m also looking at

Im seeing some for less than 500 dollars

[solemn panther]

Get a 3080ti

Used

[rich cedar]

Yeah I’m seeing used 3080s for mid 400s

Lemme see what the TIs are bringing

Yeah I cant stretch my budget that far

[rich cedar]

Oh my god I’m really gonna need a new PSU then if I go that route

750 watt required

Dang

[raven wharf]

What’s the 5070 ti verdict? I only had time to briefly watch optimum’s (I think that’s his name) video before I left for work but I didn’t really process much of the info

I’m assuming overpriced and minimal improvement over last gen?

[rich cedar]

Don’t touch one with a 10 foot pole

Yeah

[raven wharf]

Perfect

Can’t wait to see what they try to charge for the 5070 and 5060

In 9070 XT we trust

It was funny seeing GN benchmarks and the 6950XT isn’t even that far behind

Makes me feel better about my purchase especially when I got it for 650

Slow at work so I have a change to watch a little bit of the GN vid

[rich cedar]

GamersNexus did a pretty funny video on Nvidia currently lol

Fake frames and fake prices

[rugged thunder]

The more you buy

The more frames we fake

[peak swift]

The reviews are pretty consistent, if you can get it at msrp it's not fantastic but probably the best new card you can get at that price. Good luck getting it at msrp though

[rich cedar]

Yeah, MSRP is still high by about $150. I’d argue.

I think that card should be about $550

[peak swift]

I guess. I just don't know what you get at that price point that's better. Do you also think the 4070TI super was also overpriced?

[rich cedar]

I would argue most of Nvidia stuff since about the 30 series it’s been overpriced

[forest oasis]

30 series would have been fine if not for the shortages and scalping 😔

[rich cedar]

I think most of those cards are pretty affordable now like I said I’ve seen 3080s for the upper $400 range

[forest oasis]

yeah now, i meant back at launch, the msrp prices were pretty compelling especially for the performance jump over the 20 series

[rich cedar]

Oh yeah, the MSRP of the 3080 was only like $700. It’s so crazy to think about it being less than four digits.

Now most Nvidia cards are thousand dollars or more. It’s crazy.

[raven wharf]

Can’t wait for the 5060 to be going for like 550+

[peak swift]

AMD pricing just below Nvidia hasn't been great either. Never thought I would be waiting in Intel to save us on the GPU side

[rich cedar]

550+ for 8 GB of VRAM in 2025. I kind of figured we were going here. I just didn’t think it would be this soon.

[frank pollen]

I wonder if Newegg understand the dissatisfaction they're getting from the community from doing these huge 50-series combo deals... $7k worth of stuff to get a GPU is insane.

[peak swift]

Would it be better if the cards were just bought by scalpers?

[frank pollen]

Nah man but be real...

I get a bundle with maybe a PSU but these are just nuts.

[peak swift]

I still think Nvidia deserves more smoke for how few cards were available at launch

[frank pollen]

This was their last drop: Bucket of ASUS ROG: ROG ASTRAL RTX 5090; ROG MAXIMUS Z890; ROG Strix Helios GX601 Case; ROG Thor 1000W PSU; ROG Azoth Extreme Keyboard; ROG Swift 32" 4K 240Hz Monitor; ROG Gladius III Mouse; ROG Delta II Headset; ROG Raikiri Pro Controller $6,454.91 –

I think the whole machine is to blame to be honest.

[peak swift]

And it still sold out instantly

I would definitely prefer if they shuffled more cards

[frank pollen]

I can't argue with that but they're providing a service to basically people with capital

[frank pollen]

For sure.

[peak swift]

But even then the cheapest 5080s in the shuffle was 40% over msrp

There are bundles cheaper than that lol

[frank pollen]

I guess the downside to a capitalist society and the price hikes def come from the top down and then of course everyone wants a piece...

I like the route Zotac is going by doing community raffles... They're stepping up kinda like EVGA used to (*RIP EVGA)

[peak swift]

I wish newegg would at least be as good as best buy. Let me sit in a queue instead of refreshing constantly for 20 minutes

[frank pollen]

but even they're barely doing what they actually could...

Like I said, the whole system is F'ed.

haha

[solemn panther]

How much are you seeing?

[junior locust]

That doesn't seem an entirely awful idea

But the problem comes in with needing more parts (like about a grand worth of them) to have a setup

You'd absolutely wanna get a 9800XD (about 500 bucks at the best of times)
2×16 6000 CL30 for like 120 bucks
SSD for like another 75

You're still like 700 short of a PC

And that absolutely blows

[frank pollen]

Most enthusiasts aren't looking to build an entire system... Which let's be honest are likely the only people buying the Astral. Also custom builders want to select their own parts, not be spoon fed parts.

If they want to add a bunch of inventory then why not include a store credit instead of pre-selected parts. That I could be more down with.

[junior locust]

But ye the fact that a 5090 prebuilt costs less is just atrocious

I'm fairly sure I can get a prebuilt with a 5090 for less than 7 grand

[frank pollen]

Exactly my point.

[junior locust]

Build Redux is now doing a sale on a 9800X3D+5090 PC for 4700 USD

Sadly they only deliver to the US

[rich cedar]

5-600 or more

https://www.ebay.com/p/4040934334?iid=286343786150

I found this 3080 I really wanna jump on lol

[solemn panther]

Hmmm

[rich cedar]

Id need a bigger PSU though

Ive only got a 600 watt atm

[random walrus]

That's not too bad for a 3080 considering the current market

Could also poke around for a 4070; I got one off of r/hardware swap for $400

Might be a tad slower than the 3080 dependinf on what benchmark you look at but it also pulls a lot less power so might let you skip the PSU upgrade

[rich cedar]

Oooh

Nice

Looked at Ebay and most 4070s are 700 plus dollars

Im even seeing 4070s for over 1,000 dollars

Thats a staple price for Nvidia, 1,009 dollars for midrange stuff

[peak swift]

It's real bad

If the new card prices settle with 5070TIs at $900+ and 5080s at $1300+, I expect the used 40 series cards will maintain a high price

[rich cedar]

3080s were under 400 months ago

Apparently

[craggy pier]

yup

there were a LOT of good deals for a while

[rich cedar]

Seems like a steal

[peak swift]

I know around black friday you could get a 7900XTX for $830

[craggy pier]

then launch came and people lost there minds

[craggy pier]

i saw someone grab xtx for way cheaper

multiple people

prices are AWFUL right now

[peak swift]

iirc I saw a 7900XT for just over $500

[craggy pier]

everyone was waiting for 50 series to upgrade when that was the worst idea and now people are still scrambling even now

[craggy pier]

sheesh wish i couldve grabbed that LMAO

[peak swift]

There were rumors for a while that the 50 series would launch Q4 last year, so I was waiting on that. By the time it was clear it wasn't going to happen the prices had started going up again

[rich cedar]

I wish I would’ve known otherwise I could’ve snagged a 3080 a little bit earlier

I only say that because I was originally looking at a 7700 XT but the 3080 kick its ass

And the 7700 XT’s are up a couple hundred dollars in price versus the 3080

The newer stuff would’ve been nice but seeing as the 10 series has lasted and been relevant for almost 10 years buying like a four-year-old used GPU doesn’t scare me too much

[craggy pier]

raster is still raster

if the 3080 is better value for what you want thats why you should get it

the bells and whistles are only useful if you ever plan on making use of the bells and whistles

and i promise you there wont be any actually good new games that rely on dlss bs to function properly coming out any time soon

too many people dont have that kind of money

[rich cedar]

I might check and see my RX 580 is worth

I could probably sell that and make some money back

[forest oasis]

Today? Not much at all

I personally wouldn't spend more than like $50

[solemn panther]

Hm

[peak swift]

How much do you think my 2080 super is worth?

[rich cedar]

Yeah, that’s fine. I figured it’d be worth about 4050 bucks.

[forest oasis]

Without looking at the listings at all, a rough guess is probably like 250 or something

[rich cedar]

I did my sales tax calculation and it came out to around 480 bucks. Looks like I am gonna be spending some money next Tuesday lol

Man where is that Nvidia discord when i need it

[glad ether]

anybody knows what is the process to buy rtx 50 series on launch day at newegg? just prepping for tomorrow

newegg is actually listing 4 msrp cards

of the 5070 ti

[peak swift]

Get lucky

If you actually want tips -

• Use apple pay if possible, its the fastest checkout method
• Keep trying once something is in your cart, if stock comes back that saves you some time

Best Buy also has an MSRP model, couldn't hurt trying there too

[glad ether]

seems like it's gonna be fast hand tomorrow instead of the lottery system

I tried BB last Jan 30, guess I'll try Newegg this time

I am just wondering if it's similar to BB where once you get past the line and get one in the cart, you'll have a few minutes to complete the checkout.

[peak swift]

It is not, Best Buy is the only retailer that does that

[glad ether]

gotta be fast with everything then, thus the apple pay tips

[rich cedar]

I really wouldn’t buy a 50 series rn tbh

Just my 2 cents

[shadow socket]

anyone know what the exact time is for the 5070ti launch? i know its on the 20th but not sure what time

[glad ether]

iiwii when we have a monopoly and crypto/AI boom, but yea nobody should buy anything above announced msrp

6am pacific

don't support scalpers and aib-scalping

[peak swift]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/geforce-graphics-cards/5/557712/verified-priority-access-geforce-rtx-5090-and-rtx-/

[random walrus]

5070Ti at msrp is alright

[random walrus]

Unfortunately Nvidia isn't making any 5070Tis

[peak swift]

Yep, probably won't have 5070TIs. Idk if anyone here is going for a 5080/5090 but I figured I'd post anyway

[peak swift]

Get ready for the 5070TI shuffle
https://x.com/Newegg/status/1892387795391696976?t=bxFvd_Hiib6LfogHdw52tQ&s=19

Newegg (@Newegg) on X

The @NVIDIAGeForce RTX 5070 Ti GPUs will be released tomorrow 2/20 at 6am PT! Note: 5070 Ti product pages will be deactivated temporarily on our site tonight till they activate for sale tomorrow at 6am PT. Select MSRP models will be on Shuffle on launch day. All other models will

X · Feb 20, 2025, 1:36 AM

Gotta get lucky to buy at msrp

[deep pike]

I ordered a 7900xtx but it's been stuck in the ordering phase for a while, so I'm looking for a backup plan. can you recommend something similar in value with a comparable price of under 1 grand usd? preferably white but any color is fine as long as it's not ugly. i don't want to buy used whatsoever. ty!

[cerulean rover]

Unfortunately there are no comparable options right now, maybe 5070ti if you're exceedingly lucky, but everything else is out of stock and/or being scalped.

[deep pike]

even 4070 ti supers are being scalped too

crazy

but my gpu has been in the ordering phase for a while.

what does it mean?

i ordered it from amazon

it says it's going to arrive today-march 1, i ordered it around 1-3 weeks ago

also i have a microcenter near me, can i get the 5070ti from there tmrw at launch day?

[cerulean rover]

Unlikely, unless you really have too much time on your hand and want to camp right now overnight

[deep pike]

so i can't get it after coming from work/school?

[cerulean rover]

Double check what seller you got it from, there has been a couple random scam sellers on Amazon with GPUs recently

[deep pike]

it's from amazon

[random walrus]

Amazon can have 3rd party sellers

[deep pike]

let me check

[cerulean rover]

If the 5090/5080 launch was any indication, there were at max ~10 GPUs for microcenters that served cities with millions of people, being able to get one without camping overnight is very unlikely

[deep pike]

it's from the xfx store as far as i can tell

[odd siren]

No you won't have any luck with that

At all

They WILL sell out

[deep pike]

dang

what's the best option for me right now?

[cerulean rover]

Hope for the best on your current order and contact Amazon support for updates, they might refer you to the seller specifically, contact them if so

[deep pike]

alright 👍

and what if that doesn't work?

[cerulean rover]

Good luck, hope for the best, try to get on an xtx restock or wait long enough for the 9070xt launch in march

[deep pike]

also can i join the newegg shuffle tmrw?

[peak swift]

And if they don't, the only models left will be over $1000

[deep pike]

for the 5070 ti?

[peak swift]

Yes

[cerulean rover]

Yea it's worth a try

but don't expect to get one from that either

[deep pike]

and also i heard stock was coming back in a month for 50-series cards?

[cerulean rover]

Back when shuffle was constant during 30xx shortage, it was over 100,000 people entering each shuffle for a chance at cards

[cerulean rover]

It will get better, no one really knows by how much

[odd siren]

Those will sell too and be scalped

I'm very sure of this unless they have like 10x the 80/90 stock

There's gonna be tons of people settling on a 70Ti cos of 80 stock issues

[peak swift]

Maybe. The 5080 scalped prices have been going down

[deep pike]

when can i expect the market to cool down and be somewhat in stock? i'm not only limiting this to 50-series but also any other card.

[cerulean rover]

People couldn't get 5080s so 7900xtxs sold out lol

[peak swift]

For the 70TI or 70 I think the stock will be better by summer

[cerulean rover]

It's very hard to predict these things, we can't know the stock info, all that we've been promised is that they'll improve in march.

[peak swift]

The 40 series stock will never recover

[deep pike]

should i crack in an get a 4060?

or some intel card?

[odd siren]

Well yeah it's discontinued lol

[peak swift]

It also depends on how much stock AMD has. They've delayed for a long time so there's a decent chance their launch stock doesn't suck

[cerulean rover]

I'd wait and see how 9070xt works out

[odd siren]

4060 is terrible. We've basically never recommended it or the Ti

Like ever

6750XT/6700XT is way better than both

Always near $300

[deep pike]

or should i get a 7800xt or an intel card or something?

[odd siren]

7800XT is decent value at 530 or less

But like

You can keep waiting for your existing order man

[deep pike]

alright

[odd siren]

Too early to stress about it

[deep pike]

but i'm really really extremely desperately concerned

[cerulean rover]

Intel currently has driver issues, best to wait a while

[odd siren]

If you are you can contact amazon CS

Explain to them your situation

[deep pike]

will try to do 👍

[odd siren]

Have them investigate if the seller is real

That would be my ONLY concern

Cos there are sellers on amazon that are like

Huanggangjingshunlaban etc etc

And they're this random seller that's new

And it's in fact a scam account

Those take the money and run, but amazon will refund you if they discover this

[odd siren]

If it's not anything like that and it's a genuine seller, then it's likely just backorder

[deep pike]

pretty sure it's not lol

[odd siren]

Neither of those pics list the seller

The seller can be anyone

[cerulean rover]

Need to check your order, current seller may be different from who you bought from

[deep pike]

ohhh

[odd siren]

It's all consolidated under the one page lad

Lol