graphics-cards

[odd siren]

$1800 usd

[rich cedar]

Dang

[odd siren]

Yeah I really am starting to feel

Wait

Ok

I'm really starting to feel like nvidia is using the us msrp to drive a narrative

[rich cedar]

I mean possibly

What narritive

The one of them being basically an AI sellout and not really caring about consumers?

[odd siren]

"Look how cheap it is, it's still better than last gen!"
Meanwhile, elsewhere around the world

[rich cedar]

So, at least pitch nvidia in a different class then, these really aren’t consumer cards

[odd siren]

These used to be yeah

They were called titans before

Sold as workstation cards

Then the 3090 became "Titan for the consumer"

Man that lasted long

[rich cedar]

Imo all of them are far too expensive to be considered consumer grade unless you love wasting money

Maybe my blood isnt rich enough

Spending 400 dollars on a new 8 gig card is insane

In any market

[odd siren]

Fair

One thing I'm pleased about

It really feels like a lot more people are waking up to it this gen

[rich cedar]

100 percent

[odd siren]

Last gen wasn't all that different

Except we did get real improvement

[rich cedar]

People are done with their crap

[odd siren]

I really hope so

[rich cedar]

And its showing

[odd siren]

Pray for competition

[rich cedar]

I’ve never seen all of the tech reviewers go this hard on them

You can’t compete with them all the competition is actually lower priced and better

[odd siren]

Oh yeah it was pretty brutal

[rich cedar]

I wouldn’t wanna compete with that garbage anyway

They’re not garbage cards the price to performance is absolutely garbage

[odd siren]

I'm just hoping amd get the next gen launch price right

[rich cedar]

I’m probably still gonna get a 6800 anyway

[odd siren]

That's a good card

7700XT for 25 more is somewhat worth

If that weighs into anything

[rich cedar]

Yeah, I like having a lot of VRAM I heard it’s pretty important for some of these new and optimized games

[odd siren]

Yes

Ray tracing is also becoming more mainstream

I liked my 6900XT

It's been really reliable

The launch was a bumpy one but they came round in the end

[rich cedar]

Yeah, I’ve kind of always had my eye on the 6800 as a replacement for my RX 588 gig

I’m gonna keep looking at 7700s too

[wild glen]

guys If I want to buy the 5080 should I buy it now for $1700 or I wait a month from now?

[cerulean rover]

Wait at least a month for supply

You might as well get a new 4080 super for $1000 if you need it now lol

[hot bough]

Definitely not now. Wait for restock and get it at MSRP not those scalper prices.

[wild glen]

the 4080 super is for 1300$ where i live

[wild glen]

do you think it will be restocked by the end of this month?

[hot bough]

You mean end of February right?

[wild glen]

yeah

[hot bough]

Most likely.

[livid idol]

With the Lunar New Year the factories are currently shut down and it can take weeks to spin them back up to full production capacity. I don't expect anything until March.

[wild glen]

and that will be at the start of march?

[livid idol]

No idea on the exact timing. I'm just basing this off of past data.

[junior locust]

@wild glen I'd personally recommending just not getting a "5080" at all

It's basically a scam

Reposting for visibility
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J72Gfh5mfTk

Just get a used 4080 or 4080 Super, you can get it for 800 or so dollars and it'll give you much better value than any "5080"

[rich cedar]

This is funny

They never mentioned the fact its a 1000 dollar 5070

[little slate]

did ya'll see the GN video regarding how bad 5090 launch supply was?

[odd siren]

Oh yeah

[rich cedar]

Ooh yeah

[uncut folio]

Even upgrading from 3080?

[vital oriole]

Yes

The 5080 is a big letdown

[livid idol]

5080 appears to be good for overclocking but if you don't do that it's only about 5-10% better than the 4080 super depending on settings

Unless you absolutely must buy a new GPU and the 5080 happens to be the same price as a 4080 at the time of purchase it's just not worth it

[junior locust]

Used 4080 or 4080 Super all day every day

[peak swift]

Where do y'all get used cards?

[heady turtle]

ebay facebook marketplace are a good start

[livid idol]

A few different places, r/hardwareswap, ebay, fbm

[heady turtle]

if you dont want to deal with the looking around that hard and dont mind paying as much and youre in the US, Jawa acts as a middleman but youre gonna get worse deals

[livid idol]

Sometimes jawa can be better than ebay and I hear it has roughly the same level of buyer protection

Just make sure to test it right away, you have 72 hours from delivery to confirm it works or not iirc before the funds get released

[heady turtle]

im purely talking about from a not sifting through for parts or whatever ones, plus theyve already been tested so basically guaranteed not shipped a dead product maliciously

[livid idol]

@torpid heron Nope we don't allow that here

[torpid heron]

oop sorry

[livid idol]

No buy/sell/trade

Besides, the odds of someone having a spare 5090 right now are insane

There's only like 1000 in the USA total

[verbal basin]

if theres only 1k then the prices on ebay are a steal

[livid idol]

Microcenter leaked they only got about 230 units total nationwide. If each major retailer got about the same number of units, right about 1000 is reasonable

Two reasons Nvidia did this:
Get as many units state-side before the tariffs hit as possible
They don't care about gamers anymore when they can sell the same GPU with more memory for $30k and call it an "AI card"

[verbal basin]

I wonder if theres people flipping scalped cards lol

[livid idol]

100% they are

Listings for $5000 with pics taken from the parking lot of microcenter on fbm

I wish I was joking https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1800856263788546/

[craggy pier]

Some mf actually bought it

[livid idol]

Yep

[craggy pier]

On sale too!!

He saved 500 bucks on his new car!

[livid idol]

What a deal at 5500, down from 6000

[craggy pier]

I mean card!

[marsh nebula]

any drops today>

?

[random walrus]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1ieg4bl/the_5080_is_the_worst_uplift_in_performance_for/

[odd siren]

@random walrus

[random walrus]

hm?

[odd siren]

Oh

Nvm

Embed didn't work like it do

Rxddit is better, well supposed to be

[random walrus]

I just copy and send the photo in discord usually

[odd siren]

Also I'm surprised

I jokingly said "Probably the worst in like 15 years"

Didn't expect actual truth

Wtaf

[random walrus]

good to note that this is blender, not gaming

[odd siren]

Oh yeah but still very applicable

[random walrus]

arguably a little more standardiz-able than games as well

[odd siren]

Ahahaha

[cerulean rover]

that's the spirit

[odd siren]

God this thread is awesome

Everything we've been saying for years on full rip

Hahahahaha

[random walrus]

ok here's somewhat of a thought experiment: AMD is currently (on top of better raster) offering more VRAM than Nvidia. But in comparison to Nvidia AMD is pretty crap for AI. If AMD improves their AI cores (to support better upscaling, frame gen, etc) will their GPUs just go up in price as they become more attractive for AI work?

[odd siren]

Possible

No bad products only bad prices

[livid idol]

Quaj spitting straight fax

[random walrus]

Also, maybe we see LTR (Lite Token Rate) gpus?

[odd siren]

If amd believes it's worth more they'll do it

[random walrus]

idk if this would be possible but yeah

[livid idol]

What would be the point of this?

Mining is long dead after all, barely profitable

[random walrus]

just like stopping miners from guying 'gaming' gpus; but for AI instead of mining

[odd siren]

Long dead on consumer hardware*

[random walrus]

I guess Token can also refer to crypto lol

[odd siren]

Asics never died

[forest oasis]

Not really a stock issue currently

Afaik it's all artificial scarcity at this point

[random walrus]

yeah that was more a followup to my previous theoretical

[livid idol]

Basically yes, nvidia allocated most of their resources to the much more profitable AI market

[forest oasis]

Also Nvidia prob put more into the server AI accelerator market since that's where alot of companies are trying to purchase things

Yeah

[livid idol]

800% profit margin goes crazy

[forest oasis]

They turned on dlss for their profit frfr

Normal profit: 50%
Dlss on, mfg on: 800%

[odd siren]

Fr

They're using AI to make the 5070 look like what it should have been without

[forest oasis]

Peter parker glasses meme dot PNG

[rich cedar]

[odd siren]

Jesus how unhinged are they over there

I don't remember them being this bad

[rich cedar]

Its honestly comical

Im glad i can entertain yall

[odd siren]

It's hilarious

Ngl lol

[forest oasis]

Michael Jackson eating popcorn dot gif

[livid idol]

Is he... literally quoting the marketing material

Copy/paste from the Nvidia site

[rich cedar]

these people are litterally scientifically breaking down their chances of getting a card

Its a massive think tank, they do this stuff day after day hour after hour

[rich cedar]

It will be interesting

[livid idol]

inb4 $800

[odd siren]

That really got me

It's gonna be so sad but that really got me

LMFAO

[rich cedar]

My screenshot?

[odd siren]

Both lmao

https://www.rxddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1ielv8j/nvidias_50_series_performance_charts_be_like/

[rich cedar]

[rich cedar]

I will post this in the Nvidia discord later if you want lmao

[odd siren]

Up to you 💀

[rich cedar]

Also from the discord

[proper viper]

how to get alerts for restocking?

[livid idol]

We don't have that here

[odd siren]

@rich cedar

🤔

[little slate]

anyone have any idea if newegg is pulling in any more 5090 stock? I was reading on reddit that the 5080 bundles have been popping up randomly

mostly curious if there is a specific time they would show up in stock, or it's random.

[livid idol]

No idea, no one works at newegg

Except the admins, who are in admin and not inventory

[odd siren]

I mean he's right

I was saying this too

[livid idol]

Better yet, used 4080 since it's only 5% worse than the 5080 anyway at 1440p

Or a used XTX for that matter

[rich cedar]

Lmao

[rich cedar]

I should also post this in the nvidia discord

[zenith parrot]

Can anyone help explain why my graphics card is bottlenecking this hard?

[keen nacelle]

because the 7800x3d is the second best gaming cpu, and im assuming youre playing at 1440p

a bottleneck isnt a bad thing, it isnt killing your pc. it just means your cpu has performance that isnt being used

[odd siren]

Ngl

[keen nacelle]

oh yeah 1440p with fsr, which also puts more load onto the cpu

[odd siren]

The numbers look accurate

[zenith parrot]

😦

[odd siren]

I could be wrong, but it looks like you have really high settings

[keen nacelle]

why? it's not a bad thing

[zenith parrot]

i want 144 frames like, always haha

[odd siren]

14gb vram usage is like almost 4K max settings

[keen nacelle]

then turn settings down...

[odd siren]

Yeah

Best we can say

Google optimisation guides

[zenith parrot]

dang

[odd siren]

Turn the right settings down

[keen nacelle]

^^

[zenith parrot]

👀

[odd siren]

And you'll get better fps and it'll look virtually identical

[keen nacelle]

a lot of settings are almost identical between medium, high, and max

[odd siren]

Otherwise better exists in more money

[keen nacelle]

like 3d resolution in fortnite KILLS performance

like my 3060 ti could barely handle 45%

[odd siren]

Do your research on which to change pikmin

[zenith parrot]

I'm willing to throw money at better

[keen nacelle]

or just fiddle with it

[odd siren]

It's very easy to get like, 30% more fps

[keen nacelle]

there is not anything better that makes sense

[odd siren]

Just by optimising settings

[keen nacelle]

xtx/4080/5080 are all 15% or under increases

[zenith parrot]

oof

[keen nacelle]

you can go for a used 4090 if you really want to, but a new 5090 will likely run you $3500+

[zenith parrot]

fair enough

[keen nacelle]

imo more like 4k+ for the forseeable future

[odd siren]

I'd love to continue that with "Well why don't you try..." But the high end market is chaos rn. Prices at covid levels in many areas

[zenith parrot]

not really interested in the 5000 series honestly

yeah 😦

[odd siren]

Not even remotely worth suggesting better than what you got

[keen nacelle]

50 series is a flop

[zenith parrot]

yeahhh lol

[keen nacelle]

if amd releases a 9070xtx later on that could be interesting

[zenith parrot]

I wanna wait on the new amd cards

i shall find optimization options

[keen nacelle]

9070xt looks to be slightly worse than the 7900xtx

[zenith parrot]

=(((

that's not good lol

well thank you guys I appreciate the advice

❤️

[odd siren]

Oh wow ok no df guides

[livid idol]

Well it's good in the way that it'll be cheaper and consume less power than the XTX

[odd siren]

@zenith parrot

Try high texture settings

Mess with shadow settings and particles

[zenith parrot]

yeah i was looking but didn't really find much either

i'll just tweak

[odd siren]

Mess with aliasing

Go high but not necessarily dlaa

Uh

Any rt off

Small object shadows low

Draw distance mess until you're comfortable

Small object details medium

What else am I missing

[zenith parrot]

I have pretty kuch everything on ultra

[odd siren]

Reflections you can run medium to high on many games without rt and it looks decent

[zenith parrot]

guess I should change that lol

[odd siren]

Yeah you should try dialing some of these suggestions

You'll likely find a LOT of fps

And it won't look any real different to before

[zenith parrot]

I'll do that rn

[odd siren]

If you see something you don't like, flick settings back

Go one at a time

I highly recommend keeping high or ultra texture settings though

And at a minimum shadows and reflections at medium

Generally speaking those can be very impactful

Particle effects too but those can be really severe on fps

I often default low there if I need more fps

Looks a little weird but easy to accept

Watch a few other digital foundry guides for ideas, they have other games, it'll show you what some stuff does

Also df isn't the only optimisation guide either

But test with stuff until you see what you like with the right fps

A 7900XT is fast af for Cod 6

[zenith parrot]

I definitely haven't utilized df enough

[odd siren]

I think it only loses to a 5090 or xtx iirc

[odd siren]

They're great. I gained like 40% fps on average in every guide I used from them

With little to no image loss

Well

Little

Sometimes a bit but not in a way I hate, personally

But sometimes no difference

[zenith parrot]

welp, off to the lab I go then 🙂

I'll figure it out

thanks you've been a great help!

[odd siren]

Np

[zenith parrot]

[rich cedar]

Stay away from the 50 series lol

[zenith parrot]

oh i plan on it

[odd siren]

Lol

[rich cedar]

I infiltrated Nvidias discord to make memes about it

Thats how bad it is

[odd siren]

He's undercover

🐽

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-you-do-fellow-kids-steve-buscemi-undercover-cop-undercover-skateboard-gif-23665571

[livid idol]

I should join just to watch the chaos unfold

[rich cedar]

@livid idol i could shoot you a link

[livid idol]

Nah I could find it if I really wanted

I'm not that bored yet

[little slate]

Sigh, I'd consider a used 4090, but one of the biggest appeals of the 5090 is that I have a monitor with display port 2.1, and I would like a GPU that has one too

[rich cedar]

Golly gee I cant imagine you would have to wait more than 20 HOURS for a computer part

[livid idol]

XTX

[rich cedar]

the hoops these people jump through for a 50 series are absolutely insane

Might as well be the olympics

[livid idol]

I'm the wrong person to talk about this, I stood outside a best buy in freezing weather to get my GPU lol

But that was only about 14 hours

[rich cedar]

That was probably a good card though

[livid idol]

At least I had fun, a bunch of people in line brought their Switches so we played Mario Kart. I kicked their butts.

[rich cedar]

I bet everyone in line for a 50 series is really really on edge and at each others throats

😂

Just the amount of tension is probably unreal

[livid idol]

Yep that happened in my line too. There was a tent set up near the front of the line, obviously they meant it to hold a spot. But when it was 15 minutes before opening this big family rolls up with like 14 people and tries to push everyone back. Things got physical, cops got called, they were removed.

Nah man you don't get to do that while we waited 12-24 hours

[little slate]

Wait there was a tent with nobody in it?

[livid idol]

yep lol

[raven wharf]

only

[little slate]

Bruh, what did they think was going to happen

They're lucky nobody stole the tent

[livid idol]

Hey it was the last in person restock that best buy did, my last chance to buy something that would actually function as expected because the 3090 newegg sold me did not

[livid idol]

If was smashed and ripped by the end of the scuffle

[raven wharf]

i never knew u had a 3090

or maybe I do and I cant remember

[little slate]

Well yeah, they thought they'd have 14 people bump the whole line

[livid idol]

It was the worst 3090 that ever existed

[odd siren]

It was honestly a 30 -90

[little slate]

Which one?

[livid idol]

Gigabyte waterforce

2x8 pin power

[little slate]

Wtf?

[livid idol]

VRAM would throttle it just playing a game

I got artifacting playing fallout 4 from memory issues

[odd siren]

Honestly it would've gotten worse

That was the copper+alu model

[livid idol]

I repasted and repadded, no dice. Put a giant heatsink on the backplate. Still sucked.

FELIX NO

You don't understand lmao

[odd siren]

It was later going to corrode

[little slate]

At least my 3090ti is still running fine, so I'm not desperate, but I built the rest of my new 9800x3d system and it's a bit depressing to look at it without a GPU in it

[raven wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/explain-plan-theory-crazy-insane-gif-22079506

[odd siren]

I remember

Hence 30 minus 90

Lmao

[odd siren]

His 3090 was actually really bad roflmao

[little slate]

How are you 65th out of 57

[livid idol]

Try as I might I couldn't get that thing to score above 19.5k in time spy. I got this 3080 ti and got it to 21k immediately.

[little slate]

That's like... Alienware level of throttling

[livid idol]

And yes I turned it into an active backplate to fight the throttling, it didn't help

Or, it did help for a little bit, it added some thermal mass to the backplate but it still throttled so it must have been the front VRAM and not the reverse side.

[raven wharf]

that picture has such an aura to it and i cant describe it

[odd siren]

That loop would've died anyway tho

Gigabyte never fixed the alu mixing bs

Planned obsolescence

[livid idol]

I would describe it as an Aorus

[raven wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/kingbluprint-gif-21436316

[livid idol]

Either the loop would have killed it or the force-bundled P850GM would have

https://tenor.com/view/gigabyte-psu-explodes-gamers-nexus-power-supply-gif-23202345

3090 was ultra spiky in the earlier days before drivers tamed it

[odd siren]

Yeah either ||a||or||us|| tbh

[raven wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

[odd siren]

The P850GM I had died but didn't take anything with it luckily

3080 in the system at the time

[livid idol]

I killed 3 of them

One is still in active use

[odd siren]

Jeez wtf

I still have one left I save for post tests

[livid idol]

One of them was so bad that I did the paperclip test to see if it would start and smelled magic smoke immediately

[raven wharf]

do you both do anything computer related for work or is it all just a hobby? cause ik felix has multiple pcs

[livid idol]

I do it for work too

[odd siren]

Mix

Good chunk of what I have is hobbying tbh

But I use it as much as possible

[raven wharf]

ah gotcha gotcha

[chilly spire]

https://tenor.com/view/ship-sinking-ship-sinking-boat-boat-gif-24038444

[heady plover]

since I havnt found any fix and it’s been a really long time would yall just give up atp if you were me? Laptop still works but just not for games. I can always overclock the Gpu an extra 400mhz to maybe get an extra 20-40 frames but ofc that’s still leaving like 50-70% of the performance just locked away behind the issue

And if I want to get it replaced I’d have to do small claims court since Msi is choosing to ignore me every time I’ve worked with them

[livid idol]

Try a BBB complaint. I had the same issue with HP and their VP of customer relations emailed me personally within 24 hours of the complaint.

Those BBB complaints go straight to the top and the higher ups just want you to disappear, so they'll do just about anything within reason to fix things.

As far as actually fixing it, yeah I'd give up on that personally by this point

Make sure if you send it to them it has all the original firmware on it

[heady plover]

Yeah I’ve been told that’s another option. Wanted to see if I could fix it before doing all that though. It would be really annoying if they try to spin the fault onto me but I’m fairly certain I still have proof of this being an issue before I did any troubleshooting so let’s hope they don’t try it 💀

[heady plover]

The only thing that won’t be original is the recovery partition in the included ssd. However I’m pretty sure it’s within reason that the partition would be deleted if you followed Microsoft’s recommended fresh install instructions

[livid idol]

That falls under software which you're totally free to modify

I was more concerned about the gpu vbios

[heady plover]

Yeah I made sure to save the vbios way back when this all started. Should be good then

[abstract drift]

Hello, im new to the server, i was just wondering if I should be paying attention to certain days or times that restocks might happen or any information that might help me get a MSI 5080 inspire model off of newegg

[livid idol]

I'm afraid we can't really help you there

No one here works for Newegg except the admins, and they work in a completely different area from inventory

[abstract drift]

ah, thats ok. I was pretty disappointed on launch day, virtually no stocks from any vendors across the board, site issues, etc. Hopefully we can expect some good news in the near future

[livid idol]

One thing I do know right now is the factories are currently shut down for Lunar New Year observance. It can take a few weeks to get back up to full production capacity. I wouldn't expect any major restocks until March at the earliest.

Maybe a sprinkling here and there before that

[heady plover]

the only thing on that laptop that WAS user error was its hinge being broken. the hinge design on those laptops are really wimpy for how heavy the laptop actually is so if anyone (in my case it was a kid) picks it up by the display a couple times and for long enough it'll bulge and only be held together by the glue on the cover for the display instead of the actual hinges screws. after enough use this progresses onto the cover starting to peel off and eventually that one hinge is no longer attached to the display. would they be able to deny the claim because of this even though it has nothing to due with the actual issue at hand?

[livid idol]

They would have to prove that the hinge damage caused the power problem, which is a tall order

[heady plover]

awesome

[livid idol]

Also you can totally claim warranty for a defective hinge design so go ahead and include that in the RMA request so they're not surprised when it gets there

[heady plover]

this laptop is definetely out of warranty. its probably the main reason they ignored me so many times

[livid idol]

Ah I see. I'd still go the BBB route and see where that leads. Make sure to mention that the issue started while it was still in warranty and you're now out of warranty because they ignored you. That'll light a fire under their asses for sure because that's a lawsuit waiting to happen.

[heady plover]

alright, thanks

[little slate]

looks like all the 5090 bundles are gone from newegg, wonder if they're prepping to put up different ones 🤔

[odd siren]

I'd be taking a bit of a break from hunting imo

It sucks but I reckon this will be ongoing for at least a couple months

If you can hold on just a liitttllleee bit longer

Then you'll be able to roll up without issues

[junior locust]

Wow almost like I CALLED IT

[little slate]

I just check it occasionally, I don't sit around refreshing the website constantly.

[raven wharf]

seems like theres no positive news in the gaming segment of pcs anymore

9800x3d was like the last good thing

[rich cedar]

What about intel GPUs?

Those were good

[abstract drift]

We need an intel arc b770 as a savior, 20-24gb of vram and raster performance of a 7900xt or better.

[rich cedar]

Someone said the B580 was gonna get a 24 gig model

[dusk nexus]

How usable is the 3080 10gb at 4k nowadays? Someone told me that “it gets killed” due to the vram.

Obviously higher settings are preferred but I really would not have an issue using DLSS and like medium settings.

[keen nacelle]

Not very well

The 4090 can't handle 60 fps at 4k ultra settings without dlss in some games

[random walrus]

(tbf these are typically games where the unltra settings are heavy raytracing/pathtracing)

[keen nacelle]

Thats true

[random walrus]

but yeah 10gb might be a little rough for 4k. 1440p would be a better option for 3080

[dusk nexus]

Yea I wouldn’t be looking to run RT at all

Currently running at 1440 was trying to see if I could stagger upgrades bc I’m really not impressed with the GeForce 50 series

Ik it’s a massive uplift for my card but I don’t wanna “reward” selling the 70 as an 80 this year

[random walrus]

based

could look for a used 4080 super, or wait and see what AMD comes out with

[rich cedar]

Game changer? More like we need a price and name changer lol

Thats the background for their discord logo thing

[dusk nexus]

That’s 100% what I’m leaning towards rn, saw some vids that said they are targeting 4080S performance for raster 4070TI for RT and about a 600$ price

If they hit that I think I’ll have no choice but to go red and pray FSR 4 is actually good lol

[keen nacelle]

I'd take an oled 1440p over 4k any day of the week

[random walrus]

I'd take a non oled 1440p over 4k personally.

the extra fps is worth it to me

[livid idol]

I'm regularly getting close to or exceeding 12GB VRAM and I play at 1440p

But you can always turn down texture quality if you run out

[dusk nexus]

Amy reason for that? Im weighing out going to an oled 4k. Thats why I didn’t wanna do both at the same time lol

[livid idol]

Higher refresh rates mostly

And unless you're going for 32+ inches, 4k is just too high pixel density at an average sitting distance

And as for the GPU I wouldn't expect to be able to get much until March at the earliest. The 9070 XT looks interesting.

[dusk nexus]

100% my thoughts. And yea that’s why I was trying to see about the 3080 capabilities so I wasn’t totally wasting money on the monitor

[keen nacelle]

Oled just makes more of a difference in most people's gaming experiences

[livid idol]

You could turn settings down to low and the 3080 should be able to do about 40 fps at 4k

[dusk nexus]

Lmfao that bad?! Damn so like 70-90 with DLSS on if I’m lucky

[keen nacelle]

Damn 3080 is a 4.5 year old card.

That just hit me

[livid idol]

Some games are easier to run but modern stuff like black myth, yeah it's that bad

[dusk nexus]

Hmm ok maybe that’s what I’ll look to do then. I currently have a 1440p 165hz from dell that I got like 4 years ago when I built the system.

I’m going to be giving my wife the GPU/panel when I upgrade she is currently on a 5600xt and a real old office monitor lol

[dusk nexus]

Yea you and me both lol

Still crushes at 1440 that’s why I was curious about the 4k

[finite light]

hey does anyone know if this will be restocked for uk and when ?

https://www.newegg.com/global/uk-en/gigabyte-windforce-gv-n5080wf3oc-16gd-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5080-16gb-gddr7/p/N82E16814932754

[solemn panther]

Hmmm

[finite light]

what is this sorry

[forest oasis]

Port Royal
The ray tracing benchmark

[livid idol]

No clue, sorry. None of us work for Newegg.

Best guess I have is late March

[finite light]

Gotcha np thanks guys

[finite light]

Sounds good to me and when it does lunch do u think I'll be able to get one or do they go in minutes

[livid idol]

Sometimes they go out of stock before they ever go in stock

They're gone in seconds if you do get an "in stock" page

The bots can load faster than you can click

[rich cedar]

Nvidia 50 series for 500 please

[livid idol]

So the 5060 ti? You'll be waiting a while

[rich cedar]

I wouldn’t spend my money on that lmao

It was a jeopardy joke

[livid idol]

Oh

[rich cedar]

I might consider a 5050 if they make one with 12 gigs of Vram for under 400

[livid idol]

https://tenor.com/view/kstr-kochstrasse-agenturleben-agencylife-hannover-gif-19923152

The 5060 is going to have 8GB, 5050 with 12GB will never happen

[rich cedar]

Yeah forget it

I really want one but can’t justify that kind of money

[livid idol]

5060 ti will have a 16GB version with a nerfed bit bus again like 4060 ti did

In fact lemme just save you some time, here's what we know

A lot of this looks very familiar but increased core count and power limits compared to 40 series

Oh and GDDR7 but it's not the magic pill we hoped for in this configuration, it's still limited by the bus

[rich cedar]

Ah

I might consider a 4060TI if they have a sale or something

[livid idol]

4060 ti is worse than the 3070 so you might as well just get a 3070

[keen nacelle]

It's literally just 40 series with new vram and new names

[rich cedar]

Ah

[odd siren]

Guys sorry my media server started talking

[rich cedar]

Hmm

[livid idol]

7700 XT crushes both too

[rich cedar]

Definitely interesting

Yeah i had a look at the 7700XTs

It is newer and a slightly better perfoming card

[rich cedar]

Minecraft looks really good with RTX

[random walrus]

...and the 3070 only got 8gb vram which is likely going to start being more and more of a problem for it in coming years

Used 3080/4070, or go AMD

[livid idol]

So does the 4060 ti though, unless you spend an extra $150 on the 16GB model, at which point you can buy a 4070

[random walrus]

Yeah I wasn't trying to reccomend the 4060ti, just saying that the 3070 is barely better

[livid idol]

But it is cheaper as well as better so you might as well

[rich cedar]

I have tried so hard to justify a nvidia card, and i just dont think i can

The only thing i like about the nvidia cards is power draw, ray tracing and apparently the drivers are nicer to deal with, and, a better resale value when i go to sell

Thats It

Everything else has me going hard towards a RX6800

Things like vram, price, memory bandwidth and such

[chilly spire]

https://tenor.com/view/blueface-sad-chrisean-gif-26244592

[sharp hedge]

You think I could Run a dual gpu if I got a 4070 and a 3060ti?

[forest oasis]

For what

[cerulean rover]

what are you planning to do with it? not many things can use multiple GPUs now

[peak swift]

RIP SLI

[forest oasis]

Rest in piss

[sharp hedge]

Idk my pc had the automatic repair loop and I tried everything to fix it

It won’t even let me reset it completely

[forest oasis]

Automatic repair could just be from you turning the PC on and off in a short span of time?

Idk the context

[sharp hedge]

I just pops up the blue screen with automatic repair and I tried to fix it but it’s bein weird

[forest oasis]

I think the issue is the blue screening not what comes after???

[livid idol]

What's the error code on the blue screen?

[finite light]

Huh wdym

[quartz gull]

Stock normalization for 5090 is predicted for late May, which is insane. 4 months of waiting I guess

[keen nacelle]

my guess is 2027

once the 6090 is out

[solemn panther]

The real upgrade

[keen nacelle]

it'll have 48gb vram and be about 10% better than the 5090

[peak swift]

Get ready for 10x MFG

[livid idol]

All the frames are AI generated and all the game has to do is provide wireframe and vector info. It loads textures using directstorage.

[cerulean rover]

Stop giving me hope for direct storage :(

[livid idol]

The joke is that directstorage causes reduced performance

Even in very fast systems

[cerulean rover]

I still wish that it gets better and implemented more often

[solemn panther]

MFG 8×

[livid idol]

Ratchet and Clank gets better 1% lows if you just delete the DS libraries from the game folder

[cerulean rover]

Lol

[solemn panther]

Seems like NgreedAi is going to suffer this gen with their 5080. Less people care

[rich cedar]

Eh the Nvidia discord tells a different story

I was actually looking at 4070TI Supers until i found out they are like 700 dollars

[odd siren]

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-rtx-5090-up-to-16-weeks-rtx-5080-back-in-stock-much-sooner-uk-retailer/

Lmfaoooo

[solemn panther]

Shills

[livid idol]

lol yeah. In the Intel discord everyone was hyping up the 285K like it was the best thing that would ever exist... and then the reviews happened

[odd siren]

Even that thing sold out

But the 245 and 265 did not

What I hate more than anything about these stock issues

Is that nvidia discontinued old gen

So no matter how you cut these, they will sell, they've given everyone no alternative

AMD is unexpectedly winning from this as the bad hype is turning positive as people actually feel like they couldn't possibly be any worse anymore, just poorly priced

[rich cedar]

Yeah basically

[livid idol]

Nvidia is fully aware of this, and they're also very aware that they're losing gamer market share to AMD

[odd siren]

They aren't tho

AMD has lost market share in radeon YoY since like 2021

[odd siren]

You'd be surprised but it's true

We are a small facet if you compare to market research

[livid idol]

The gaming division at Nvidia is the only one that posted a loss in profits last I checked

[odd siren]

Radeon is at like one of it's all time lows of about 8% as of 2024 Q3

I remember checking this

[rich cedar]

I really need them to do something good in march to sway me away from a 6800

[odd siren]

If you ask me, buying one will be hell

This is gonna be wild west for months

They have stock, but I bet they'll get scalped and swept up hard if it's even remotely good

[rich cedar]

Ah

[odd siren]

To me buying last gen at a slightly better premium, right this point in time, more appealing

Yes, there's value potential

[rich cedar]

Mhm for sure

[odd siren]

But zero guarantee

Absolutely zero guarantee you get one

[rich cedar]

Alright well that’s good advice, I really need to grind hard for a few weeks then go snag a 6800, my job situation is bleh atm which is why i havent pulled the trigger

[odd siren]

You could wait a week or so, see if it gets better for Nvidia's side of things

Yeah

If anything I would be compelled to a 7800XT or 7700XT personally

Just because they have chances of FSR 4 compatibility

6800 won't

If you don't mind this, it's fine

[rich cedar]

Yeah i had a good look at the 7700xt but the memory bus is 192 vs 256 for the 6800, idk if that matters too much

[odd siren]

It doesn't

Unlike nvidia AMD pioneered the infinity fabric

[rich cedar]

Ah?

[odd siren]

Which grossly reduces bit bus needs

Yeah

It's something like

312bit nvidia is equivalent to like 256bit amd?

Something like that

[rich cedar]

Ah

Less is more?

[odd siren]

It's actually a great tech in the right spot

It's better next to team green easy

But in terms of actual impact, minimal

You'd see bigger impact changing to pcie gen 2 on your motherboard

[rich cedar]

Yeah like i said ive been looking for a few weeks to replace my rx580 8 gig, its all window shopping and research arm

[odd siren]

All good

[rich cedar]

I have a B450 Tomahawk Max if that matters

[odd siren]

I'm just keeping everyone in tune with my thinking

Cos a lot of us have seen what covid did

And not even 40 series was this bad

But I'm the numbers guy

I see everything for what it is

Lol if I suddenly turn around in a sweat-fuelled panic saying "Buy a 3080 now now now" I'll have a good reason 😂

[livid idol]

Infinity fabric is one of the reasons why AMD is better at 1080p than 4k, relative to Nvidia

[odd siren]

Meanwhile Intel has API layer advantages so they have inverse scaling

[livid idol]

4k needs to access textures more frequently, more memory load, but less bandwidth available

[odd siren]

You'll be fine, just not intel arc

Oh wait no b450 has rebar doesn't it

[livid idol]

It does yes

[odd siren]

I think the max does with ryzen 5000

Yeah

Nah you'll be fine with whatever

[livid idol]

It's B350/A320 that might not depending on the model

[odd siren]

Up until like 4080/XTX you can run a combo with a b450

[rich cedar]

Ah nice i have a 1080P monitor

[odd siren]

No issues

[solemn panther]

Smh

[rich cedar]

Thats good! Yeah those 2 cards are what ive basically narrowed it down to the last few weeks

[rich cedar]

Sorry I don’t have 2 grand? I guess?

[solemn panther]

I have the money and that's too much

For a gpu

There aren't even that many good games that I'm willing to play nowadays either

[rich cedar]

It wont stop until people quit buying it

[livid idol]

This is the problem that I've run into recently too. Only one of the games I have installed currently even supports DLSS at all, and that's No Man's Sky.

[rich cedar]

I was looking at Nvidia soley for Minecraft ray tracing

Its so freaking cool

[livid idol]

Minecraft runs perfectly fine on AMD

It's not a hardware ray tracing thing in that game, it's software

[rich cedar]

Wait really? 🥹

Sweet

[craggy pier]

Even then amd raytracing at the high end has no problem running ray tracing on minecraft lol, ive done it myself in 1440p high render distance, high everything

Just no pathtracing and youre good lol

[livid idol]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/minecraft-rtx-gpus-benchmarked

XTX runs at 75 fps on 1080p ultra, 51 at 1440p ultra

Which yes is lower than Nvidia

But still very playable, especially if you reduce inconsequential settings

[craggy pier]

Yep

And even then, just do some lighter ray tracing

Itll feel better all around

[livid idol]

I would never recommend maxing RT settings in any game tbh, except for screenshots

[craggy pier]

Yep

On gre i can play the second highest sildurs shaders at a VERY high render and settings w 1440p and consistently get about 100fps

There really is just zero point maxing it out

When going one tier down looks the exact same

Diminishing returns

[livid idol]

Why set ultra when high looks nearly the same after all

[craggy pier]

Yet it doesnt because you arent roleplaying a slide show

High is just better

[rich cedar]

Yeah id probably be doing RT at 1080 lol

I want a 1440P monitor and thats probably gonna be my next upgrade after the GPU again

[craggy pier]

What pc setup you running now?

Depending on what you have that could entail more than just a gpu upgrade, psu for example

[rich cedar]

AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
AMD RX580 8GB
MSI B450 Tomahawk Max
EVGA 600G? Bronze PSU
32g 3200 DDR4 quad channel
1TB Samsung 980 SSD
1TB HDD
Phanteks P500A Case

[craggy pier]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wP2ZzP

thats what i would recommend personally for new

but for me i would try and get a used 6950 xt in good condition if possible

although thats weaker ray and upscaling if you care about that

[rich cedar]

Oo

Interesting

Would I be good with my 600 watt if i went with a 7700XT?

[craggy pier]

especially on a bronze rated gpu i would not recommend that

also if youre upgrading from a 580 i would recommend jumping a bit ahead and sticking to a 7800xt, its a nice bit of extra vram and raster that i think is worth it in the long run

[rich cedar]

Ah okay

[craggy pier]

although a 7700xt isnt a bad choice at all, i just think going the extra foot since you kind of already need a new psu anyways is worth it

even if it means saving up a bit

[rich cedar]

Yeah currently between jobs lol, i will be saving a bit for this

[craggy pier]

then id just wait and check back when youre able to, prices always fluctuating and what not

[rich cedar]

Yeah true

Hopefully sometime around march

[craggy pier]

but for the processor you have and all that i do think a 7800xt would be a really sweet addition especially if you want to try 1440p

[rich cedar]

Yeah definitely

Ill keep an eye on prices, hopefully they move closer to the low 400s for the next few weeks

[craggy pier]

shoot youd be lucky to get 450 new

if you can get a 7700xt for 380 or similar i honestly might opt for that instead

[rich cedar]

Yeah i was seeing 6800s for like 365-370 and 7700XTs for low 400s

[craggy pier]

for what you want id stray from the 6000 series tbh

[rich cedar]

Oki dole

[craggy pier]

unless you can get a really good deal on its high end

6900xt or 6950xt

[rich cedar]

Yeah the VRAM is what leaned me towards that

[raven wharf]

bedrock edition rtx brings my 6950xt to its knees

java shaders run amazing tho

[craggy pier]

bedrock sucks anyways so

[rich cedar]

Yeah i play exclusively java

[livid idol]

Java for me too

[forest oasis]

i do not want the bedrock jank

i play 99% java

occasionally bedrock to join a bedrock server

[random walrus]

Bugrock

[livid idol]

Badrock

[craggy pier]

Bedrock is the version of minecraft for when you or your friend only has a mobile device or console

[forest oasis]

real

[raven wharf]

i played alot of it on my pc just because i had a server with friends who were on all consoles and i wanted to play

it was fun for me to turn on rtx and take pictures of their bases and stuff for them

ex:

pretty sure I built that iirc

[odd siren]

Lol

"Their bases (mine were cooler)

"

[raven wharf]

i didnt have any of theirs on hand but i found one lol

water doesnt look great in that one but still cool

[rich cedar]

Those are all RT’s

Thats so cool

[odd siren]

He do be rt'in

[odd siren]

It's longer than 2 itx boards now

[junior locust]

That's hideous

[heady turtle]

I hate this

[craggy pier]

I hate this

Someone buy me one

Please

I need a new car

[marsh nebula]

@ashen canyon asus a.s.s.t.r.a.i.l.

[fresh sun]

Looks like i will get a used 6800XT after all

specifally an XFX Swift 319 6800 XT for 250 plus shipping which comes out to bout 280 euros

[keen nacelle]

Oh wow

Nice snag

[fresh sun]

hes properly scamming himself lol

[keen nacelle]

You got proof of it working right?

[fresh sun]

i was talking about getting one locally and he was like you want mine for 250 once i upgrade

[fresh sun]

He was literally using it until today when he picked up his 7900XTX and yes i do aswell

Hes ran furmark for me

and just shown me how it does in Valhalla and RDR2

even a cheeky gpu coil whine vid

though it isnt with anything running so there isnt much

he admitted its sometimes noticable in quiet cutscenes in games

dudes been nothing but honest

(obviously the bottom card)

[craggy pier]

when my gre is running at 100% you can hear the living hell out of it in quiet cutscenes, it has pretty intense coil whine

[fresh sun]

i currently use a single fan card so i hear nothing 😭

he said the fans were louder though

[craggy pier]

i use a tri fan

[fresh sun]

yeah well i think tri fan for a 1060 3gb is slightly overkill

[craggy pier]

i should honestly lower the fan speed scale

my gre just gets molten in the mem

[fresh sun]

undervolt maybe?

[fresh sun]

Also my gpu is desperatly hot it needs new thermal paste but i am way to scared to be doing allat

[craggy pier]

eh might just frame limit games more tbh

dont think undervolt would help much

[fresh sun]

maybe idk

[fresh sun]

85c under full load

[craggy pier]

have you done paste on a cpu cooler before?

its the same process

[keen nacelle]

Dubs

[fresh sun]

(which is basically any game)

[craggy pier]

my mem gets to about 88 on full load

[fresh sun]

yeah but it doesnt seem too fun to do with a gpu

[craggy pier]

just watch a tutorial for your specific card

its worth it for the cooling

even if youre replacing it

[fresh sun]

why so if its getting replaced

[craggy pier]

actually it might be a good idea to chuck that in a small secondary system

[fresh sun]

maybe if i sell it ill repaste it and test it

[craggy pier]

use it like a server, for recording space, theres a lot of uses you could have

[fresh sun]

I thought about that

[craggy pier]

find some used igpu system and boom

[fresh sun]

but i really dont have much use for a NAS

[craggy pier]

fair

[fresh sun]

nor something like Plex server since i just use stremio

[craggy pier]

idk theres just a lot of qol you can have from a secondary sytem

[fresh sun]

if only most people werent trying to sell their century old gaming rigs for a bit expensive prices

[craggy pier]

plus you can have an easier time reselling honestly

[craggy pier]

lmao fair

[fresh sun]

easier yeah but i might just lose money on

Cause i also have a CPU laying around from my recent upgrade lol

and that cpu is dog

1300X

1300x and a 6800xt would've been coughing baby vs atomic bomb

[craggy pier]

if you could find an old ddr3 system for 100 or so thatd be pretty good honestly

[fresh sun]

but then the 1300x sits on a shelf again

[craggy pier]

i just read that

[keen nacelle]

Smh read faster

[craggy pier]

bacca i hope when you go to bed tonight both sides of your pillows are miserably hot

[fresh sun]

mans needs a new brain gpu to render the words faster

[craggy pier]

like sweaty

[craggy pier]

i was tabbed out 💀

[keen nacelle]

Fair

[fresh sun]

bro accepted his fate 💀

[craggy pier]

multitasking and forgot to take my vyvanse this morning

its rough out here

[keen nacelle]

Oh hey I'm on Vyvanse too

[fresh sun]

ADHD meds im just gonna guess

gonna draw that line

[craggy pier]

yup

[keen nacelle]

Yeah

[fresh sun]

never heard of Vyvanse though

[craggy pier]

its the only adhd med that works for me

[keen nacelle]

It works a lot better for me than Adderall or focalin

[fresh sun]

i probably have adhd but im not gonna get diagnosed for allat

[craggy pier]

strattera was

something else

every day i felt like there was sand in my mouth

like i had rabies or something lmao

[keen nacelle]

Never tried that one

[craggy pier]

good

keep it that way

[keen nacelle]

I dont take my vyvanse often, just when I need to have a productive day

It makes my sleep worse

[craggy pier]

ii take mine every day

my sleeping already sucked

[keen nacelle]

Same

[craggy pier]

so its practically canceled out

i dont sleep any worse or better than i used to

[keen nacelle]

It went from like 4-6 hours of sleep to 1-3

[craggy pier]

yikes

no wonder you dont take it daily

although vyvanse works way better when you do

what milli are you on?

i take 10 and am planning to up the dose a smidge here in the future

also i only take it in the early morning, 7 to 8

[keen nacelle]

only 10

[sharp glacier]

lol im on 30 mg

i dont sleep very well either when i take mine L

[craggy pier]

im tempted to try 20

[verbal basin]

drugs are bad don't do drugs cause they're bad

[keen nacelle]

XRP tells me all i need to know

[craggy pier]

it means more drugs for us

hes too busy snorting xrp

[random walrus]

Did bro just throw slurs via emoji

[craggy pier]

bro in fact threw slurs via emoji

💀

[random walrus]

Gotta give credit for the creativity I guess

[craggy pier]

the only credit

because im petty and hate people like him @narrow summit

[narrow summit]

what happened

[craggy pier]

^

in baccas profile she says queer etc

and blud is reacting with that crap 💀

[narrow summit]

banned

sorry took me a minute

[craggy pier]

nah youre all good, and thank you

oop

[narrow summit]

lmfaooo what did you say

oooh okay yeah dont say stuff like that lol

[craggy pier]

lol sorry

[narrow summit]

its okay lol

[keen nacelle]

Oh thanks I wasn't even gonna bother lmao

Ty naht

[craggy pier]

aye np

most people like that are repeat offenders

so its nice when it gets nipped in the bud

[little slate]

has anyone seen if newegg has ever restocked any 5090's since launch? And if so, is there a time when they usually put them up?

[hot bough]

One option is to buy a pre built with the 5090 if your in a desperate rush. Resell the components.

Other than that, no. No word yet as far as I am aware.

[odd siren]

Or just wait 6 months until the rush is over cos this is catastrophically bad imo

Especially the latest news

Not a rare occurrence either

[hot bough]

What does it mean by bricked? I haven't gotten to far into it.

[hot bough]

.

Are they literally disabling the cards that the bot purchased or?

[odd siren]

Install card
Load windows
DDU then install drivers (Or just update drivers to a 50 series one)
Black screen
No display, GPU vbios bricked

[hot bough]

Oh s

[odd siren]

It's likely repairable with a CH341a but not without opening it, depending on how bad it might be irreparable

[hot bough]

Didn't someone joke that this was going to happen like last month....

[odd siren]

We joked about this for months

No one expected it to ACTUALLY happen

[hot bough]

I feel as though we were the cause

Talked about it so much that it happened

[odd siren]

Well either way I couldn't be more glad to skip

Come back in 6 months when the drivers and scalping are fixed

Cos this is the worst launch we've had in 15 years

[hot bough]

Like it or not I have other medical and home bills to pay again

So it's back to plan B

[odd siren]

4090 day 1 didn't have problems like this

[hot bough]

Pay bills, get a monitor and PSU upgrade, save for card

[odd siren]

There were idiots with the power

But not involuntary bricks

[hot bough]

The cables bring to long right?

I heard they shortened it this time around.

[odd siren]

Being

And no

Improper plug insertion

Which I had to explain to every single 4080 or 4090 owner back then

PLUG ALL THE WAY

CHECK 3 TIMES

A lot of people didn't know this

I'd have to tell them to check right before they turned it on the first time as moving it around can wiggle it loose

Even in the proper cases, if you have a native cable, it can melt on both sides

It did in the above article

People think native makes it better, it does not, less 12vhpwr plugs in the system AT ALL, the better

The 8 pin converting adapters are safer, and you check the plug is in all the way at the final step by pushing it in one more time

12vhpwr is a nightmare imo

[hot bough]

Yep definitely sounds like it.

The J2C video on the 5090's power cable was hillarious

[odd siren]

The new cable just looks like they use a nicer paracord sleeve

So it bends better

Cos the bend itself wasn't the issue it was the resulting pins coming loose from strain

Be it plug or pins themselves

[little slate]

I wonder how they works with dual bios cards

[odd siren]

Then you've probably lost one bios

And the other one is fine so you can check the card isn't dead before claiming warranty

Two bullets in the chamber, if you lose a vbios then you lose a vbios

Needs an spi to un-corrupt it

All that story tells me is it is extremely risky to try and use a 50 series card rn

The drivers are clearly wildly immature

[little slate]

It's crazy how unprepared Nvidia seems to be for this launch

February is probably the worst time to release too with the lunar new year

[left quiver]

It's not to be honest it all makes sense, they cannot ship enough AI chips so you betcha they gonna put gpus on second place to their real money makers. Plus is not like the have any competition or any hurry to have stock.

[fresh sun]

Ah

If it isn't something to mess up my upgrade

The 6800xt is 34cm long

My case is 34cm long on the inside

Now I have to spend like 80 bucks on a case

The case I wanted: out of stock

Rn I'm looking at a thermaltake level 20 VT and h5 flow (2022)

[keen nacelle]

Check out the phanteks xt pro, sama 3509, and montech xr

All relatively cheap and great cases

[random walrus]

Also thermalright c12c 3 pack if you need case fans (phanteks needs em in front)

[fresh sun]

i can get Corsair ML120s for like 20 bucks fans wont be an issue

(for 4)

[fresh sun]

Either more money than the cases i listed

or just unavialable

[random walrus]

C12c 3 pack is like $13

[fresh sun]

well the ml120s are used

lemme see these

[random walrus]

I'd get new c12cs personally

[fresh sun]

unavialable locally

theres this offer

but thats like 13 bucks a fan

[keen nacelle]

What abt this?
https://niko.com.mk/P/atx-micro-case-deepcool-cc360-argb-black-w-usb-3-0-usb-2-0-3x-120mm-led-fans/

[fresh sun]

yeah ive looked at it

GPU wont fit

[keen nacelle]

Oof

Forgot need 340+

[fresh sun]

Theres the CC560 which it will fit in i believe

[fresh sun]

Also you need some more reputable brands

[keen nacelle]

?

[fresh sun]

ive literally never heard of NIKO computers macedonia 😭

[keen nacelle]

Oh lmao

It was the first result on Google that had an English version

[fresh sun]

https://anhoch.com

top right brotha

[keen nacelle]

I do a good bit of builds outside of the US but never one for macedonia

And ty

[fresh sun]

Yeah the CC560 does fit the gpu

and its the same price as the CC360

its just bigger and comes with an extra fan

I wanted the CG580 but its out of stock everywhere

its such a good looking case

[fresh sun]

Also keep in mind the H5 flow is like 10 bucks more compared to this

But its also white

so boooo

[keen nacelle]

Cg560>

H5 flow is ok but nothing special

Yeah cg560 and cc560 are the best options I see on that site

The newer version is a bit nicer but not much of a difference cooling wise
https://www.anhoch.com/products/atx-midi-tower-case-deepcool-cc560-mesh-v2-argb-black-wusb-30-4x-120mm-led-fans-3060

[fresh sun]

why specifically the cc560 over the h5?

[fresh sun]

ARGB but imo it looks worse

nvm the old one also has an ARG version

[keen nacelle]

Nzxt cases are just generally overhyped, their fans tend to be mediocre at best (h6 flow has especially bad fans,) and just as a brand I'm very much not a fan

There's also the thermaltake s200

[fresh sun]

The CG580 though

[keen nacelle]

Nvm

330mm gpu clearance

[fresh sun]

PepeHands

[fresh sun]

I love the H6 flow for looks 😭

[fresh sun]

Out of stock btw i wanted to get this

i love the dual glass casses

just too bad they're either extremly cheap

or extremely expensive

the cg580 was the only midrange one

[keen nacelle]

Maybe look for the thermaltake view series

Or gamemax has some cheap cases like that, just a matter of if they're sold there

[fresh sun]

none of them are sold here

[odd siren]

Idk why I'm still subscribed but man I disagree with this thumbnail completely

[raven wharf]

Ah hell no

He lives 30 mins from me ima go jump him

Then sell it for double the price he was

[quartz gull]

Who's going to trade a 4090 for a 5080, or buy a 5080 for $1795

[forest oasis]

💀

[quartz gull]

"Mainly looking to trade for an RTX 4090. If not, will sell high for $1,795 that will help me buy one due to its rarity/shortage. Will lose to an RTX 4090 in rasterization performance but will outperform the 4090 in triple A title games, such as cyberpunk and black myth wukong, using NVIDIA DLSS 4 with its Multi Frame Generation & Enhancements"

[livid idol]

Even the scalper is trying to push MFG lmao

[quartz gull]

They're trying to sell a 5080 to buy a 4090

They have to 😂

[odd siren]

What a joke

[junior locust]

This is what a failed launch looks like honestly

[odd siren]

Lmao

[junior locust]

The worst part?

nGreedAI wanted this to happen

This WAS the intended outcome

[quartz gull]

Yeah it's very clear they also wanted the 5080 to be useless to AI work

I think that's the real reason vram is skimped

[rich cedar]

How can anyone honestly want their products

This is beyond like, diabolical

[barren trout]

how much would u guys pay for a gaming trio 3080

a guy is selling 1 for 500 is it worth it or under cut

[odd siren]

3080 which kind

There's 3

[barren trout]

10gb

[odd siren]

Ti 12gb 10gb

Ah

Yeah no way

425 max

ESPECIALLY if it's the gaming trio and not gaming X or Z trio

[barren trout]

is all gpu compatible with all motherboards

[odd siren]

The regular trio has a plastic backplate

[barren trout]

let me c

[odd siren]

Yeah it's fine

You can put a 3080 in any system within like the last 20 years and it'll work if the power supply is sufficient lmao