graphics-cards

[keen nacelle]

What type of lagging, what's happening

And what cpu and ram do you have

[odd siren]

^

Cpu matters a lot in COD

[livid idol]

If you feel like waiting a year sure go ahead

[heady turtle]

Wow the 5080 is incredibly disappointing

[solemn panther]

Terrible

Terrible

This gen is not how I envisioned it

[hasty urchin]

How cheap is the 4080 super?

[odd siren]

They've gone as cheap as like $830 or $800 from retailers if you play it smart

For 4%-7% slower that's a no brainer imo

[solemn panther]

Where on earth are all the cheap used 4080 super lol

[odd siren]

You have to look dude

Zotac had tons of these months ago

It's not easy to find

Hell if you even get one for $900 at this point you're still winning

[solemn panther]

So $900 is realistic for USED?

[odd siren]

I would either make the jump now right when the fomo is high to a new card or wait a few weeks for people to get a sense of realism and then the used market returns to normal

[odd siren]

It's realistic yes

And again, if you just can't find anything, 7900 XT/XTX...

[feral axle]

I was thinking of switching back to nvidia for better blender support but the gpu market got me just annoyed

[hasty urchin]

Ohhh you mean used?

I have a 4080 super, got it 2 months ago for $1100. Is 5080 worth it?

Im thinking no, based on the reviews ive seen.

[odd siren]

Ye used

1100 is a high price tbh

But you won't be able to make that back now

[hasty urchin]

No, it’s not FE

[odd siren]

Any way you slice it 5080 makes no sense for you

[hasty urchin]

Yea exactly

Good to know I made the right choice. Hopefully next gen doesn’t disappoint

[odd siren]

Especially since they unveiled frame gen for 30 series

40 series might also get something akin to mfg

Since the gap between 30 and 40 is way bigger

[hasty urchin]

Tbh idek what this means lol

[craggy pier]

which part

[hasty urchin]

Is that like DLSS?

Frame gen, what is it?

[odd siren]

Ye frame generation

[craggy pier]

dlss includes frame gen yee

[odd siren]

It makes fake frames to add to real frames

[solemn panther]

What the heck.....

[hasty urchin]

Ah ok, so they got better ones for 30 series?

[odd siren]

So it basically multiplies fps for a latency hit

[odd siren]

They're improving it yeah, to about 40 series level it seems

Which means, 40 series can also improve

[hasty urchin]

Oh ok, nice

[solemn panther]

How on earth does a used GPU retain most of its value....

[odd siren]

Ye just camp on 4080S imo

[odd siren]

By a new gen being garbage

💀

[hasty urchin]

Ive seen some people use dlss 4 on their 40 series cards, idk how tho

[odd siren]

You need to update drivers

[hasty urchin]

But I thought dlss 4 is 50 series only

[odd siren]

I wouldn't be in a rush to use it tho

Nope

It's all gens

[hasty urchin]

Oh ok

[odd siren]

All RTX

Multi frame gen

[solemn panther]

SMH

[odd siren]

that's the 50 series part

[craggy pier]

amd 7000 raytracing about to get waylaid by 2000 series nvidia 😭

i love the pure rastor but gd

[odd siren]

Honestly possible LOL

[hasty urchin]

Ohhh ok

[odd siren]

But fsr 4 may hit 7000 series

[craggy pier]

it better

[odd siren]

Which could vastly also improve theirs

[craggy pier]

or ill shed tears

[odd siren]

6000 series won't get it

They have no ai acceleration at all

It's all software

[craggy pier]

if only i had a 7000 series card

[odd siren]

Mm yes if only

[craggy pier]

[odd siren]

Either way nice to see reviews now highlighting that an XTX mostly matches a 5080

[craggy pier]

if NVIDIA is upgrading their cards with software stuff amd has to

[odd siren]

I've been saying forever that the card was quicker than a 4080/S

No one believed me

💀

[solemn panther]

Yep. $900 for 4080s..shame

[craggy pier]

used*

[odd siren]

That's not bad

[hasty urchin]

Crazy

[odd siren]

I'd say like $850 or less would be entering that amazing tier

[solemn panther]

Used. Horrendous

[solemn panther]

Jensen has you

[odd siren]

You need to temper expectations JP

[hasty urchin]

Ill sell you mine for $1300

[odd siren]

Used market shops by fps lmao

[solemn panther]

🗿

[craggy pier]

ill take your money for my wallet

[hasty urchin]

$1400, free shipping

[craggy pier]

trust me its worth

[solemn panther]

Evil

[craggy pier]

i have like a starbucks giftcard

[hasty urchin]

But isnt that crazy tho

[odd siren]

https://tenor.com/view/good-hate-powerful-gif-13603659

[hasty urchin]

A used gpu is very close to msrp?

[odd siren]

It's been this way for years

[craggy pier]

ngreedia

[hasty urchin]

Really? Im new to the pc world

[solemn panther]

NgreedAi

[craggy pier]

it only goes down from here

welcome to hades

[odd siren]

There's a turning point for value, once it's realistically cheaper to get the old card, offsetting the new card gains, the price sits very firmly

The market hasn't actually trended down much if at all since the end of covid

Very few cards have depreciated

And another 50 series makes this worse

[hasty urchin]

A 3090 for $1500 is also crazy

[odd siren]

Yeah don't pay that, $600 max lmao

[craggy pier]

prices are very funky for cards in general, sometimes youre paying more for a 210 than you are a 710

[hasty urchin]

Yea

[odd siren]

The used market for 3080/90 has sat around the 400-600 mark for years now

On the other hand a 6900XT is now going as low as an amazing 400

Which is wayyyyy better than new

Even at the end of life

[raven wharf]

Are you active on the Radeon subreddit Felix

[odd siren]

Same with 3070

[odd siren]

Am not why

[craggy pier]

cost ≠ value btw

[raven wharf]

Saw a post of a guy got a brand new XTX for 4$

[craggy pier]

budget cards are a hope and a dream

[odd siren]

A certain mod camps the amd channels that hates my guts

[raven wharf]

And it works I think

[odd siren]

Damn

[raven wharf]

lol

Here https://www.reddit.com/r/radeon/s/hWVLh3L8Fg

[craggy pier]

blud is a hounddog looking for prey wtf

[odd siren]

AHHH MY CARD TOO

$4!?

[raven wharf]

https://www.reddit.com/r/radeon/s/An8LgUNXnk

[odd siren]

I PAID SO MUCH

[craggy pier]

what card was that

[verbal basin]

which 5090 will be easier to get tomorrow, Asus rog astral 5090 or MSI 5090 Suprim SOC?

[odd siren]

https://tenor.com/view/emotional-damage-emotional-damage-meme-funny-gif-24332819

[raven wharf]

It’s an XTX

[odd siren]

Neither

Cos barely any stock even exists dude

[craggy pier]

did the seller have a concussion?

was it like a broken card

[raven wharf]

Read the post I just sent he found it in a Amazon return thing or something

[odd siren]

I've heard "Single or double digit stock" for most stores on 5090

[craggy pier]

holy

how do you even

[raven wharf]

Going to go down as one of the gpu launches of all time

[odd siren]

Neither the 3090 or 4090 had numbers this bad

Nor upcharge

[craggy pier]

and theres gonna be many thousands crawling for a 5090 too

content creators and the like

ai, yada yada

[odd siren]

Pay as little on it as you can man

It's barely worth it at 2K

Honest advice

[craggy pier]

barely

[odd siren]

The higher it goes the way worse it is

[craggy pier]

2100 maximum

[odd siren]

Well it's either 2000 or 2200

So no

Lol

[verbal basin]

the rog astral is 2800

[craggy pier]

oh i thought manufacturers only went down to 2100?

mb

[verbal basin]

msi suprim is 2400

[odd siren]

And an excessive waste. It's worse than both suprims

This is the 2nd gen asus is worse

And costs more

[craggy pier]

if youre rich just buy what tickles your fancy lmao

if you care about savings a 5090 wont give you value

[odd siren]

I wouldn't bother with a 5090 if not msrp

It's so much worse than the last 2 gens

[raven wharf]

I wouldn’t bother with it if it was msrp

[odd siren]

It's a 4090 Ti with a scalp tag

[craggy pier]

you realize nvidia cards are just gpus with an AI scalp tag

[odd siren]

That's conflating it a bit

[craggy pier]

maybe

[odd siren]

It's just a refresh gen making itself look better despite the virtual 0 value gain

MFG will take a long time to even be properly appreciable

Lmao

[craggy pier]

it technically has some optimization

technically

[odd siren]

Well it has a value proposition if you never use it for games is the thing lmao

The extreme codec increase and the better ai throughput for workstation is massive

But that's really it

[raven wharf]

Plus the most power draw of any gpu like ever

[craggy pier]

i saw a video where somebody managed to stick the 5090 in an mitx and cut about 100 watts and barely lose performance if anything

[odd siren]

The QoL is for anything but the core chip

[odd siren]

This is what I did with the 4090 lmao

[craggy pier]

im not rich so i dont have any firsthand experiences with these cards lmao

im more than happy with my gre tho

[odd siren]

Surprise surprise they're virtually identical at power scaling being one is a refresh of the other

[hot folio]

4090 already runs pretty cool even without setting any power limits, with power limits it's pretty cold

[odd siren]

The 4090 in fact scales better

But only in some situations

They really eeked out the best of Ada with Ada itself but not even I was expecting it this bad

I was hoping for this, didn't think it'd actually happen lmfao

Then you consider what comes after this, monopsony

People are gonna buy these anyway

Tell nvidia "we like this" with their wallets

And sending the message they want this type of behaviour again

This gen is such a can of worms LOL

I really hope AMD lives up to the 9000 series expectations

They have the performance, they just need the damn price to be right

[craggy pier]

amd is a master at fumbling big wins

[odd siren]

At this point in time they really did

But they don't want to bugger up the price

[craggy pier]

so my bets are on them fumbling and my hopes are on them living up to hopes and dreams

[hot folio]

9950xt when

[odd siren]

If the 9070 XT ends up sub $600 I am likely gonna try one

I don't mind buying another wb for something like that

[craggy pier]

whats 9070 xt perf again?

like 4080?

[odd siren]

≈XTX

[craggy pier]

oh shi

[odd siren]

They basically did the XTX but cheaper

Which, wow yeah actually good

Give the right damn price tho

[hot folio]

Is the 9070xt the highest tier?

[odd siren]

Ye

I'd be basically sidegrading

[craggy pier]

if it winds up sub 600 im going to cry to sleep at the fact i couldve waited a few months

[odd siren]

But I'd be willing to do it

[craggy pier]

i only bought my gre a few months ago

[hot folio]

So AMD gave up on the high end?

[odd siren]

Yep

Well "gave up" an XTX competes with a 5080 dude

9070XT is not mid range by any means

[craggy pier]

why would they call it a 9070 instead of just a 9090

[hot folio]

We're back to the Turing days

[odd siren]

But that's what their market strategy is so they better live up to it

[odd siren]

Make it sound more nvidia-like

"Oh the 70 card competes with a 70"

[craggy pier]

braindead

[odd siren]

"Ti? Oh XT"

[hot folio]

Why not 9700xt

[odd siren]

Idk

Ask them not me

Lol

[hot folio]

Nah I'm asking you

[craggy pier]

to directly compare to nvidia

[odd siren]

I'm not used to being forced

Hi 1111 you're just in time

[craggy pier]

felix give me an answer right now god damn it 🔫

[odd siren]

[cerulean rover]

They're probably saving up names in case they want to do something like how Nvidia does 3090ti

[hot folio]

Get used to it big boy

[cerulean rover]

Hi Felix, I'm just here because I'm bored again

[odd siren]

You know what

[craggy pier]

the fruitiness is coming out

[odd siren]

I might shop to redo a waterloop

[hot folio]

Hi just here because I'm bored again, I'm Alec

[craggy pier]

put coffee in it

[odd siren]

No

[hot folio]

Beans

[craggy pier]

its like a coffee maker

[odd siren]

I'll get banned from watercooling reddit

[hot folio]

Real

[odd siren]

(I won't miss them)

[hot folio]

Is that really an issue?

[craggy pier]

even more reason to do it

[odd siren]

It's an actual rule LMAO

[hot folio]

Oh i know LMAO

[craggy pier]

wait what lmao

[hot folio]

I've witnessed 4 people get banned for sending THE picture

[craggy pier]

no mysterious liquids?

[hot folio]

Nah, no beans

[craggy pier]

D:

tea it is

[odd siren]

[craggy pier]

im bout to post food in a loop just to get banned

they sound like a prissy soccer mom

[cerulean rover]

What about the famous vodka loop

[craggy pier]

they didnt say no piss loop tho so

[hot folio]

They are

[hot folio]

You mean my loop?

[craggy pier]

can the loop lead into my mouth

[hot folio]

Well i take my leave, ski lifts are open again

[craggy pier]

if my loop doesnt make me loopy is it really looping?

sounds like a loophole

[odd siren]

I reckon in 6 months to a year we get 50 series supers

5080 Super, and it matches the 4090

I bet it happens

Lol

[cerulean rover]

With such a disappointing launch that's pretty likely

[odd siren]

5070 Ti Super, matches 4080

Yeah

[cerulean rover]

Or they do 5080 ti and 5070 super, it has to be confusing for consumers

[odd siren]

Fr

[random walrus]

Just watched that Optimum video and it seems like the 5080 could easily be pulling more power

[odd siren]

Either way they're just names

I bet the segmentation exists

[odd siren]

Not if they set the voltage cap too low

[cerulean rover]

5080 isn't being pushed to use all of its power like 5090 is

[random walrus]

*Nvidia could have made it pull more power

[odd siren]

40 series and 50 series are different joe, they are voltage bound

[cerulean rover]

Just 10% or so higher power draw rn

[odd siren]

They can only yeet the tdp so much before degrading

[random walrus]

Huh

[odd siren]

Ada was already on the limit

[cerulean rover]

Just give it 12v at this point

[odd siren]

Or rather

I can say it was now

Since 50 series disappointed

[craggy pier]

50 series dissappointed? who saw that one coming

its almost as if it was inevitable

[odd siren]

Hey I'm open minded lol

I don't care who wins just give me the best price for my dollars

[craggy pier]

i like to think im open minded, but then im reminded how nvidia runs

[craggy pier]

oh absolutely

[odd siren]

Nvidia is like this because AMD and Intel need to do better.

[odd siren]

Nvidia has mindshare

It's been a problem for years

[craggy pier]

these conglomerates success is the least of my worries, i just like not being too broke to buy stuff

[craggy pier]

tbf amd not only has much less marketshare but also a larger split between operations

[odd siren]

Yes

[craggy pier]

but they absolutely do need to do better yes

[odd siren]

But here's what the reviews of 9000 will look like

[craggy pier]

dust

[odd siren]

Everyone is expecting this "RT overload"

They won't see it

In fact

They'll see as I said before, basically a literal XTX and they'll think "Why would I not buy nvidia then?"
And this is why they need a low af price

[craggy pier]

amd doesnt invest nearly as much in raytracing as nvidia does

[odd siren]

They all dump too much into it

[craggy pier]

of course

[odd siren]

But people are more willing to go intel just on RT alone

Even though it's actually a horrible time

[craggy pier]

i think raytracing is cool but i also think its not ready

[odd siren]

Mindshare will be interesting this gen cos if amd gets the price right, we will see a genuine shift

[craggy pier]

it would be so simple for amd to do

[random walrus]

RT is the future of game rendering, but getting there isn't gonna happen overnight

[odd siren]

Cos thing is an XTX for $600 blows anything else at that range out the water

[craggy pier]

the real question is are they too greedy to

[odd siren]

And they NEED this to be the outcome

Because people won't trust it if it's a little better

That's failed enough times as a strategy

They are too afraid to raise a price if it's good, instead they'd rather start high and go low

[cerulean rover]

It'll prob make Nvidia drop MSRP if it is low

[odd siren]

I'd rather them start at $599, capture everyone's attention, then they raise it later

Cos it's a ridiculously good price

[random walrus]

Tbf raising prices after something is launched usually results in outrage

[odd siren]

But it sets a good impression

[odd siren]

I get that

But them setting high at release gets no attention

It's worse

[random walrus]

*unless it's publicly announced that the price will be increasing later i.e. Kickstarters

[craggy pier]

unfortunately in marketing bad attention is better than no attention

[cerulean rover]

For the sales numbers, they see more sales if they decrease MSRP after launch

[odd siren]

Look at the 7800X3D and 9800X3D

[cerulean rover]

But it's not on people's minds until that happens

[odd siren]

Those things are unobtanium when they just release

5800X3D as well

[craggy pier]

fomo

[odd siren]

They're extremely competitive

Because the halo tier buyers are able to get the same for half

[random walrus]

Nah it's cause x3d is undisputed top tier for gaming

[odd siren]

And because of this

The last 4 years ryzen adoption has SOARED

[craggy pier]

im curious if theyd even have enough stock to keep up at $600

[odd siren]

AMD needs to do this in the consumer gpu sector

Just being slightly better isn't good enough

They've lost market share YoY even when rdna 2 and 3 were as good as they are

It's just a fact

[craggy pier]

i hate the idea of putting so much hope into something just for it to go "EEEEEEEeeerrr kaSPLOOSHHH" down the toilet

[odd siren]

I guess the best way to say it is "A whole tier better"

[random walrus]

Unfortunately with DLSS4 release it won't be possible for AMD GPUs to be objectively top tier like x3d cpus for another generation or so. (They can do great price/perf though)

[odd siren]

Instead of undercutting the same tier

They need the whole damn tier undercut

[random walrus]

This would be sweet

[odd siren]

"I get a 5070 Ti for a 5070 price? Wow!"

That kind of impression is huge

[odd siren]

This is true, but they can improve fsr4 to compete

All is not lost

[cerulean rover]

They probably can though, they just have to price and perform a lot better, FSR development has generally been just half a step behind

[odd siren]

Yeah

They are really looking bad rn, but if they play the launch right, damn

[cerulean rover]

Dlss gets framegen? Couple months and fsr gets it

Mfg will prob be the same

[odd siren]

Fr

[random walrus]

Transformer model was a significant leap though, compared to other recent dlss updates

[raven wharf]

Do you know if they ever made a waterblock for a xfx 6950xt

[odd siren]

Yes

Alphacool

[craggy pier]

the issue i have with that is i dont have enough confidence in fsr4 competing in that department enough

[random walrus]

But FSR does everything worse...

[cerulean rover]

There's no reason why AMD can't get a similar jump in just a couple of months

[odd siren]

Go look up eiswolf 2 gavin

I'll do you one better it's an aio

[raven wharf]

On the topic of water cooling what brand is even good now that EK is cooked

[cerulean rover]

Pre dlss 4.0, there were a couple of months where fsr was equivalent to dlss

[random walrus]

In theory yes. In practice they just haven't been able to keep up

[craggy pier]

im making you amds director rn

[cerulean rover]

In another couple of months, that'll likely be the case again

[craggy pier]

go forth

[raven wharf]

Doing a custom loop is something on my bucket list I want to do eventually

Prob not this year but

[odd siren]

Optimus, heatkiller, alphacool (kinda), bykski (kinda), phanteks, corsair (yes)

[cerulean rover]

Did Corsair GPU blocks stop leaking?

Never looked at it after the 30xx blocks

[odd siren]

I haven't heard that since like 30 series

So I'd say yes

[craggy pier]

i hate how like i swear in every company the marketing team is a million times worse than the engineering departments

[odd siren]

Their loop kits are decent tho

[cerulean rover]

Badly priced though

[odd siren]

Fair

[cerulean rover]

I wonder if you can still get the $150 bykski kit with everything

[craggy pier]

like all the overconfident morons are the ones who join marketing when in reality theyve never had a genuine conversation with a real human being in their life

how overpowered would it be if marketing teams could keep up 😨

just be like duolingo

[cerulean rover]

It's a disconnect between the job market and the average consumer

[raven wharf]

👀👀

https://www.reddit.com/r/watercooling/s/vQvOR9Ym10

[cerulean rover]

You need 20 years experience in marketing to get the job, and if you've been in marketing for 20 years, you're going to be out of touch

[craggy pier]

tbf its an inherently inhuman market to begin with, taking advantage of peoples thinking for profit

its no wonder

[cerulean rover]

They need to be hiring psychologists, but they're hiring business people

[craggy pier]

the urge not to make a political joke

😭

[cerulean rover]

Lmfao

[hot folio]

Too many fittings, smh

[odd siren]

Real

Soft tube pls

[cerulean rover]

Reject bending tubes, use fittings for every turn

[junior locust]

That's the artistic way to do it

[hot bough]

Wouldn't that be a hazard for potential leaks over time?

[cerulean rover]

every added component is an added point of failure yea

but yaknow

it'd be fun

[hot bough]

What would be the safest way to do a custom loop using hard tubing?

It's towards the top of my list to try a custom loop sometime in the future

[odd siren]

By using soft tubing

[cerulean rover]

just bend it with a heat gun

but yea soft tubing is simpler

you can use a tool to get the bend to be straight and use a heatgun to soften it to be able to be bent

[hot bough]

Iirc corsair and some other companies sell bending kits for that

So essentially I want to use a few fittings as possible?

[cerulean rover]

When applicable yea

[hot bough]

So out of curiosity.

A soft loop using a raditor, soft tubing, and a waterblock with a pump is essentially just a self made AIO correct?

[heady turtle]

basically

AIO just means all in one

[hot bough]

Are waterblocks with built in pumps good or is a dedicated waterblock with a D5 pump separately better?

[livid idol]

It doesn't make that much difference. AIOs do it to save space.

I'm partial to the pump/res combo myself

[hot bough]

gotcha. the pump/res does look nice

Btw Fal, could you send me the CC profile and correct download link for CoreCycler?

I have a sneaking suspicioin that I had corrupted the file

[livid idol]

What do you mean by profile?

[hot bough]

CoreCycler profile with the test configuration

[livid idol]

Corecycler is on github

[hot bough]

oh okay, I see like 50 different sites for CoreCycler

so I wasn't sure which one

[livid idol]

I think you mean the configuration file which is just text so if it's human readable it's not corrupt

[hot bough]

this file

[livid idol]

File doesn't look corrupt to me

I know the y-cruncher config is very picky about settings

[hot bough]

Hmm alright.

Will try again and see if it works

Why is it CPU overclocking is so much more finicky then ram overclocking

Easiest to hardest parts to OC IMO:

• GPU
• RAM
• CPU

I have to date ever had a CPU that would oc without some kind of finicky issue happening

[livid idol]

Undervolting is the reason

Things get really screwy when you try to feed it as little voltage as possible

[fluid aurora]

Anyone got their best gpu recommendations and benchmarking sites? Looking for the best non-nvidia gpu on the market.

[livid idol]

Easy answer then, 7900 XTX

It can beat the 4080 and even 5080 sometimes

[fluid aurora]

That's what I seem to be seeing. Would you recommend userbenchmark as a good source for benchmark info?

[junior locust]

Oh God no

Avoid that site like the literal plague

For your own good

[fluid aurora]

Everyone seems to have a complaint about every source

What would you recommend and why?

[junior locust]

Hardware Unboxed, optimum, LTT, maybe GN

They actually test stuff

And won't BS you

[livid idol]

?ubm

[neat venture]

`UserBenchmark is NOT a reliable source of information and has been blanket banned in many hardware communities such as r/hardware and r/intel for what started as an anti-AMD bias but has spiraled into delusion.

In fact, they tried so hard to skew results in favor of Intel's midrange that they even cannibalized Intel's own high end. For example, according to UserBenchmark, the i3-9350K is rated higher than the i9-10980XE.

For a similarly convenient quick-and-dirty hardware comparison website, we recommend using PassMark instead of UserBenchmark.

PassMark CPU comparison: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
PassMark GPU comparison: https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
Want to know more?: https://youtu.be/RQSBj2LKkWg`

[fluid aurora]

Oh 😓 my bad

Thank you, I'm sure this must come up often

[dim citrus]

Does the msi 4080 super slim got a good performance?

[keen nacelle]

No worries, we just have the command for that to show you were not making it up

[keen nacelle]

No, one of the only 40 series cards with a mediocre cooler, but how much does it cost

[raven wharf]

its doomsday

uhh

my adrenalin software says im updated tho

[livid idol]

One of two things is happening then:
The game needs an update to be aware of the new version
Windows overrode your drivers with a bad version from Windows Update

[raven wharf]

looks like its a driver thing

[livid idol]

DDU time then

[raven wharf]

game is fully updated, verified game files

[raven wharf]

nahh not again thats such a pain

[livid idol]

By the game needing an update I mean there's a period of a few days to a week or so after a driver release for games like this to recognize the new version IS the newest version

I'd say just play it and DDU if you have weird issues or performance problems

[forest oasis]

honestly i feel like the links should not be in the inline code snippet formatting so that it's actually clickable, as it's quite annoying for mobile users to open the links lmao

you could prevent the links from embedding by encapsulating it with <> like https://www.videocardbenchmark.net

[livid idol]

I would love to adjust it but I no longer can access the bot settings

[forest oasis]

rip

[dim citrus]

got it from someone saying it's new card got it from someone and don't need it and same in amazon for 1400$

[livid idol]

Is that in CAD?

[dim citrus]

no SR

i found it for 3700SR

so 1000$

[livid idol]

That's the normal price for that GPU at least, so not bad for new

(keeping in mind that things tend to cost more outside the US, for those lurking)

[dim citrus]

and is the msi slim a good model?

[livid idol]

I wouldn't call it "good" but it's good enough

[dim citrus]

wdym does it have a poor performance?

[livid idol]

Just not as good cooling, because slim cooler design, and can't overclock as much as a result without modding

[little slate]

All the 50 series cards are just gone now from Newegg?

[cerulean rover]

Launch is 9am est/6am pst

[little slate]

I was just surprised they hid all the cards they showing before as out of stock

[vernal orchid]

Does newegg hold inventory in your cart, or do you need to actually need to check out?

[little slate]

It doesn't reserve just because it's in cart

[vernal orchid]

Looks like they added basic anti scalper protections, limiting some single digit number of GPUs per customer

I feel like the odds of getting a launch 5090 is real slim though

[odd siren]

Cos it will be

I haven't seen a single store yet with more than single digits

[fresh sun]

Toms GPU hierarchy

[odd siren]

^Seconded. Good suggestion, we have it in the pins 📌

Specifically 1440p for up to 5080, 4K for anything above that (or close to it also applies) due to cpu bottlenecking

Use that to figure out which gpu fits where

Then compare it to prices for your best bang for the buck

[vernal orchid]

Newegg just IP banned me for 10 minutes for using selenium

[odd siren]

If you want help with that then none of us here work for newegg

[vernal orchid]

Welp, they're definitely trying to weed out the johnny come lately scalpers!

[odd siren]

I'm just gonna wait this one out, msrp launch will be a bloodbath lmao

[vernal orchid]

Just sharing information as I get it. I am trying to get 2 gpus for my ai workloads, and when the line at microcenter was ~100 people long at 5am and the store said it only had 5 5090's to pass out, I started looking for options online

[odd siren]

Yeah real talk lad, odds are you're not gonna get any

Like lottery chance

Based off what I know there's probably like only a few thousand in USA in total

[vernal orchid]

I'm known to be an outlier, so I'll continue to test my luck 😄

[odd siren]

It's really bad

I mean go for it

But if you want better ai perf, I'd suggest a used epyc platform and pool a bunch of 4090/3090s at fomo prices 2nd hand

Or go for Ada gen cards

50 series looks like a total wash

[vernal orchid]

ada gen cards are my backup. More ram per card is just so damn useful

[odd siren]

Ye

Oh I get it but also

Stock looks BAD

I've never seen so few on offer

In like, 5? Years?

It's really dry lmao

Even peak covid we weren't this short on 3090s, they're holding stock for ai card wafers

[whole gazelle]

When is the 5090 officially launched on the website

[odd siren]

In like an hour

And there will be barely any

[whole gazelle]

Thx

[odd siren]

Don't be surprised, stock looks really low everywhere

Really stark contrast compared to 2 or 4 years ago when I could walk up on the first day and get a 90 card back then

[little slate]

I wonder if the Asus $2800 card would be easier to get because of how overpriced it is, or of it will sell out first because people will think it's the best

[verbal basin]

probably a bit easier i think

I would pay $4k for it if it was guaranteed though

[little slate]

It sucks that there were almost no partner card reviews out there, I was only able to find that one and one msi card reviewed

[little slate]

Honestly the only reason I'm considering it is that I'd rather pay that than pay a scalper

[verbal basin]

yeah i don't like scalpers even though i can afford it lols

i'd rather pay 3x msrp to a retailer

[little slate]

It's crazy that this is 3d generation in a row of essentially paper launches from Nvidia

Pretty sure it's intentional because then the hype makes people impulse buy anything they can get their hands on

[odd siren]

It'll be easier to get but you've long left the realm of any sensible value at this point

Astral would be the worst pick by far imo

At that point anything that you'd use it for with work would make more sense in the form of 2 used 4090s

[little slate]

Have there been official announcements of pricing for the other cards?

[odd siren]

Not much else no

The B&H leak seems real

[little slate]

What did the leak show? I only saw it for 5080

[odd siren]

So far I've only seen 1 card with an msrp not founders and it's a 5080

[little slate]

I doubt there will be any msrp 5090s

[odd siren]

Likely implies some aibs have msrp cards but according to people who work at the stores they're basically non existent

[little slate]

I'd expect the cheapest one to be 2100 if not 2200

[odd siren]

Which is stupid because by that point you're on the brink of spending worse value on a card than anything else

Many aib cards start at 2200

Up to 3100

[little slate]

It's Nvidia's fault

[odd siren]

The best performance model will be the suprim aio

[fluid aurora]

Are the best buy prices not real? I thought best buy listed prices for non FE models too?

[little slate]

The margins on what they sell the GPU at to aib are stupid low

[odd siren]

Just to save anyone's concern

[odd siren]

We won't truly know for another 30 minutes

Take this all with salt honestly

But the stock rumours sound very real

And scary

[verbal basin]

nvidia doesn't care about gamers, most of their cards are going to be going to data centers

[little slate]

I never saw best buy list anything other than the Nvidia version

[fluid aurora]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-nvidia-geforce-geforce-rtx-5090-vanguard-soc-launch-edition-32gb-gddr7-pci-express-gen-5-graphics-card-black/6616096.p?skuId=6616096

[odd siren]

This isn't random btw I just know from last gen and current gen reviews. Best temps and bin

If you see it and you really want just the best that'll be the one

If not the air version

[little slate]

Suprim aio also has liquid metal while the non aio one doesn't

[west briar]

did newegg pull the links from yesterday?

[odd siren]

Not a determining reason tho

The bin and pcb matter more, LM is something you can add

[little slate]

Yeah but that leads to thinkng that the aio version will run hotter to need it, so it'll be clocked higher

[odd siren]

Nah they really don't need anything like that

It just looks colder

[little slate]

I'm also worried about the power draw on the top cards

[odd siren]

You'll be seeing up to 600

Spikes 900+

This is just how high end cards look

Lol

[little slate]

No I mean the fact that they put liquid metal on the aio version and not the air version

[odd siren]

Ye ik

Don't worry I get ya

[peak swift]

Wish we had gotten more aib reviews

[odd siren]

The LM part isn't that important tho

[little slate]

I'd certainly hope it won't spike to 900 considering the cable is only rated for 600

[odd siren]

Aim as low as you can in price. They have little variation. However if you want best, suprim/aio have the highest bin and usually the best/2nd best pcb

[odd siren]

My 4090 spikes to 750W lad

Most 4090s do in fact

[little slate]

Yeah but 750 from pcie or total?

[odd siren]

Rails

So 12vhpwr

Those are often so small the psu ignores it

[little slate]

Dang that's crazy though

I honestly thought aib cards would have 2 12vhpwr plugs on them

[odd siren]

Ada/Blackwell have rather conservative spikes tbh (Besides 5090)

In the past a 2x power jump was rather expectant at short intervals

[peak swift]

Just undervolt if you are worried about power draw

[odd siren]

Basically yeah

It'll still spike here and there tho

[little slate]

regretting my 1000w PSU

[peak swift]

Are MSI cards even going on sale today? B&H says pre-orders start in a week

[odd siren]

It'll handle it as long as the cpu is like a R7 X3D

[little slate]

Yeah it's 9800x3d

Platinum rating too

[odd siren]

You're fine

Esp if atx 3

[little slate]

It is

[peak swift]

I know MSI made some announcement about delaying shipping their cards

[little slate]

The MSI delay announcement I saw was specific to their own website

I don't think they delayed for all the other stores

At least not from that announcement

[peak swift]

Right but on B&H it says pre-orders start Feb 6 for MSI cards only. The rest say pre-orders start Jan 30 (or don't have a specific date)

[odd siren]

Interesting

[little slate]

Maybe b&h didn't get stock

I know in the past I never had any luck with stock at b&h at all

[peak swift]

Weirdly I think I don't want the FE. I'm all air cooled and apparently the FE shunts all of it's heat straight onto the CPU cooler unless you have an aio

[odd siren]

FE is the best value tho by a mile

Idk $50 for a thermalright 360mm

Vs $200 for the next best

[peak swift]

There are other MSRP cards

[odd siren]

I haven't seen any listings yet

Only 1 for a 5080

[peak swift]

Best buy has an ASUS Tuf listing for msrp

[odd siren]

Only 1?

[peak swift]

Like yes the MSRP cards will be low stock but so will the FE lol

[odd siren]

I remember peak covid they did that, sold barely any on day 1, the rest of the life of 30 series we never saw that price again

Idk maybe that's an overreach

[peak swift]

That's the only official listing at least.

[odd siren]

But I'm not hopeful

[little slate]

Then they also tuf listed for 2500

[odd siren]

Still, $50 for an aio is a small price

[little slate]

I don't think the 2k tuf is a proper listing

[odd siren]

You could buy 4 aios to cover the FE spewing air the way it does

[peak swift]

Different model numbers, pretty sure one is the oc version

Why asus thinks that's worth $500 is anyone's guess

[odd siren]

Probably goes without saying but "OC" is just a label

They're all the same

Only the suprim is known to bin

Just in case anyone is thinking it's important

[peak swift]

At this point yeah. Maybe there's a case if a cheaper one has coil whine but nobody knows that yet

[odd siren]

Usually the more expensive the board of late, the more there's whine

Ah, I'm struggling to explain why

Anyway you guys should get ready

It's any minute now

Don't waste time here, good luck

[verbal basin]

no please waste time here

[odd siren]

Lmao

[little slate]

Still don't see any posted on newegg, bet they'll be gone before I can even load them

[odd siren]

Go go go go

[little slate]

Still nothing...

[odd siren]

Tons of 5080s on best buy I saw

[peak swift]

Best buy keeps kicking me out of line

[crimson saffron]

BB 5090 sold out in a second

[fluid aurora]

I figured, I got into the "you're in line!" screen almost immediately, but nothing is happening since. Still just "🔃 please stay on this page"

Probably means I ain't getting it?

[crimson saffron]

I was spamming refresh, one refresh it went from coming soon to sold out

[little slate]

Did anyone even see any come up on newegg?

[odd siren]

Pretty sure stocks all gone lads, could be wrong tho

[mellow glen]

its been saying that for the past hour

[verbal basin]

bots won

[odd siren]

Seen 1 person so far here get one

[little slate]

How do you even see that? When I search 5090 it just shows me 5080s

4090s*

[odd siren]

Idk it's not me

[crimson saffron]

scroll some

[odd siren]

Ask in gen chat lol

[crimson saffron]

real nice how they removed a good way to search them

[odd siren]

I'm just on my phone watching the struggle

MC showing 5080s

[bold basin]

[north abyss]

im like 90% sure no one even saw a live listing

[sacred crow]

BB, clicked add to cart, was in line and then "Something went wrong" either unlucky or stock dryer than the desert.

[north abyss]

same

[odd siren]

Stock was really low lads

Like incredibly low

[fringe drum]

Im going after a certian card and I have not seen one website out of the three go live

[north abyss]

well seeing as how most MC got 5 or less

that makes sense

[odd siren]

We may not have seen any 5090s cos people lined up got one

There were so few

[whole gazelle]

I’ve been sitting here since 11:30 and newegg still hasn’t put anything out I don’t think

[north abyss]

newegg either went live early again like it did for the 9800x3d or it never went live

[bold basin]

By time listing was live it was already out of stock when page loaded.

[sacred crow]

5080 still showing up as add to cart for me, but I don't want a newer 4080.

[odd siren]

Didn't go early

[little slate]

Newegg refuses to show me the 50 series still lol

[odd siren]

I truly reckon the 5090s were so few that people outside stores got one

They never listed online

Newegg tho I wouldn't know, e retail

[crimson saffron]

it showed me the 5000 series tab cards and combos were in it, combo was available then it wasnt and its gone now

[pulsar berry]

newegg chalked the release but messing up the site and how to even find them lol

[bold basin]

BB wouldnt even send me login code to login to my account. Guess I'm waiting till late spring for a card

[odd siren]

The whole launch is a mess

[finite raptor]

Did even see them go up

[odd siren]

That went out of stock faster than anything else

[craggy pier]

the scalpers are getting desperate with 5000 dollar 5080s

[peak swift]

I think its a little early to say they're desperate lol

[fringe drum]

I've only see the FE release and I didn't go for it cause it wont work in my case

[craggy pier]

i think a scalper is desperate the second they decide to become one

[little slate]

Oh hey I can finally see 5090s on newegg

[north abyss]

Yeah I only saw the FE on bestbuy go up

[little slate]

As all sold out 😭

[finite raptor]

Anyone seen them on Amazon?

[whole gazelle]

It’s been saying it was sold out since the 25th

[little slate]

Yeah but a the listings disappeared earlier

[north abyss]

dont worry though they are all tagged as "Recently Launched"

[little slate]

This is the first time I was actually able to see the listings again

[odd siren]

I see 4 in front of me if anyone wants one imported

[little slate]

Lowest price in 30 days too!

[odd siren]

This is a genuine offer

[little slate]

Wat

[odd siren]

Msrp starts at $4040 aud

Not BS

Not cheap either

BUT IF YOU'RE DESPERATE

[little slate]

Not that desperate, I'm sure you're a good person but that's too much trust in a stranger on the internet

[odd siren]

Ohp

I see 10 now

This is aud btw (Australia)

[odd siren]

Perfectly understandable

The price would likely require also import tax since it's over 2K aud

[finite raptor]

Anyone see them go up on Amazon?

[little slate]

Amazon has always been the worst place with scalpers

Not even worth trying imo

[finite raptor]

Question still remains the same

[odd siren]

5 just got bought on my end

5 still there

[whole gazelle]

Is it given the prices for anyone a newegg it’s giving me the prices

[odd siren]

Offer stands if anyone is desperate

I still see 5 5090's

[little slate]

Where are you looking, curious if I can buy direct from Japan

[odd siren]

https://www.mwave.com.au/graphics-cards/geforce-rtx-5090

[little slate]

I don't see prices on newegg

[odd siren]

We don't sell out as fast here

I'm not looking on newegg

USA is gone lmao

For context 4040 aud is about..2400? Usd

That's msrp

[craggy pier]

still completely unreasonable but if youre desperate ig

or rich

[odd siren]

I saw someone earlier saying they'd pay 3x to a retailer

I haven't seen them yet lmao but figured they might be willing

God these prices are awful

[little slate]

Nope looks like they only ship to aus and NZ

[odd siren]

Even for a base price ventus this is cringe

[odd siren]

Ye I'd forward it

[peak swift]

Ah well, I tried

[odd siren]

Ohp back up to 9 preorder

Got msi, gigabyte, asus

[little slate]

Sigh I bet the only way to get one from Newegg now will be through a bundle

[odd siren]

Suprim just went up

Back up to 10 available

I take goods and services, I ship insured

(Naht's gonna kill me)

Lmfao

[whole gazelle]

I was trying to help my brother get one🥲 he told me it was gonna be a battle, but I didn’t think it would be this bad

[odd siren]

Astral sold

9 left again

Ok I'm not gonna keep offering this forever. Last call for any 5090 takers. I won't make any money out of this but I'll take upfront to do it

It's against the rules so this is my last offer

[crimson saffron]

its a tempting offer, but the conversion rate isnt great, also there would be import fees right?

[odd siren]

Yes

[crimson saffron]

4400 aud is 2742.08 us

[odd siren]

It won't be cheap at all

As I said it's for desperate peeps

[crimson saffron]

Its nice of you to offer

[odd siren]

4040 is the cheapest rn

Ventus

It's the msrp here

That's roughly 2500 yeah

It's a nasty buy but you'd get one

wtaf

[frank pollen]

Did the AIB 5090s ever go on sale?

[fringe drum]

I dont think so alteast not in US

[frank pollen]

Cool thanks.

Hoping my internet is up to the task

[whole gazelle]

Did anyone figure out if newegg just didn’t go on sale?

[frank pollen]

I never saw it come up and I've been on it for a minute

no trackers reported anything other than Best Buy FE

[odd siren]

Not a clue

[verbal basin]

stock should go to buyers with largest purchase history first imo

[odd siren]

@verbal basin did you want one before I log off

Expensive af tho here but I'd send it

[crimson saffron]

Theres barely any stock, this is like the 3000 series

[odd siren]

Worse there yeah

I'm actually surprised how many are still available here

I mean also not, the prices suck

But the 30 series def sold quicker here

[crimson saffron]

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fsrxrdqagy1ge1.png

I was at charlotte, numbers are real

[odd siren]

Yeah saw that earlier

My best guess lads

If they had physical locations

Just about all the 90 stock went to people lined up

They would've prioritised that

[peak swift]

Wish I still lived in Ohio, bet I could've gotten one

[odd siren]

Alright well closing up the offer now

Unsurprisingly 0 takers lol

But understandable

I wish you lads luck in trying again

Personally I'd cut losses and go used last gen if you can accept it

But good luck

[finite raptor]

Found 1!!!

[lapis oyster]

This is the 30 series all over again...

[whole gazelle]

Where did you find that?

[little slate]

Where?

[finite raptor]

Shop BLT https://www.shopblt.com/search/order_id=921251859&s_max=25&t_all=1&s_all=rtx+5090&search=Search

May the force be with you all

Saying 0 in stock, but at least you might be able to place a reservation

[frank pollen]

ShopBLT is notorious for doing this... I dunno.

Appreciate the help tho.

[finite raptor]

Placed it on my Credit card incase its a scam, but it's looking hopefull

[frank pollen]

I just can't beleive it went down like this... ridiculous.

I pulled an all-nighter (I'm in the PNW) and now I'm hallucinating lol!

[finite raptor]

Ya really hate how people can use Bots

Wish it's illigal to use Bots to purchase

[little slate]

It's been like this for 3 generations now

[frank pollen]

I don't think shopblt is bad in nature I just think they wayyy overshoot.

[finite raptor]

overshoot?

[frank pollen]

Their stock numbers...

[finite raptor]

How do you mean?

Ah

[frank pollen]

Like they say they have 200 on order when it's not reality.

[finite raptor]

So it's legit and I might just be placing as reservation order?

[crimson saffron]

Im giving it a shot too, it hasnt showed up on my CC yet though.

[frank pollen]

Exactly. I remember dealing with them years ago and my order never came. No issue getting my money back though.

[finite raptor]

checking mine now

[frank pollen]

I don't think they charge now that I think about it, unless it ships? I dunno - it was a long time ago.

[crimson saffron]

This product is not yet on order with the manufacturer but should be shortly, as it is ordered from the factory as needed. After you place your order, we will order this item from the manufacturer into our warehouse. We will ship the item to you when it arrives in our warehouse, usually within an estimated 15 business days from the date you ordered. If arrival extends past 15 business days, we will provide you with an updated estimated time of arrival (ETA) when provided to us by the manufacturer.

[finite raptor]

Ya i think they only charge when the product ships if I remember correctly

[finite raptor]

As sad as that sounds, its a much better option than buying from scalpers

As long as they are doing what they say they are

[crimson saffron]

Status: Received
Your order has been received and is pending processing.
Details of your order will appear here one business day after it was placed.

its showing up like it isnt going to charge tax, so maybe if this comes through we'll have that

[finite raptor]

I think the total includes Tax

[crimson saffron]

thats fine either way, just wishful thinking haha

[finite raptor]

Ya man, I'm desperate but not willing to sell my kidney

Anyways, good luck to us both @crimson saffron

[crimson saffron]

yeah it would be nice if this worked out, who knows though, its saying they order it as they get orders from customers, but if theres none available from asus for them to get it might be a problem

[lapis oyster]

Ideally I'd like to have one in my hands by mid March so, I have time. Anyone know if Newegg will be posting supply drops like they did with previous gens?

[little slate]

I bet they'll only stock bundles

[lapis oyster]

Hey, if its bundled with a new PSU I'm cool with that. I need to upgrade anyway lol

[forest oasis]

The PSU in question: 💥

[lapis oyster]

As long as it's a DECENT PSU and not just some stock they're trying to get rid of lol

[forest oasis]

Lmao

Newegg did do that once

3 years ago at this point

[lapis oyster]

Bundle Deal: Asus Astral RTX5090 and 500W NoName PSU!

[finite raptor]

Where?

[lapis oyster]

Yeah last card I bought was a 30 series. I managed to snag one after about a month

[raven wharf]

It was my day off and I’m 40 minutes from one here in Ohio, I should of gone to see what was up over there lol

Would of had to cut my kidney out at the checkout to buy a 5090 if I found one but yk

[forest oasis]

go just to take a look frfr

[raven wharf]

At this point there’s no point there is likely nothing even left over there

Think they’ve been open for over an hour or so now

[peak swift]

I used to work 5 minutes from a Microcenter. Now I'm on the west coast and the closest one is 13 hours away

[solid glacier]

I actually snagged a 5080

[forest oasis]

it would be more impssive to snag the 5090 considering that it has like 1/10 of the stock

[rich cedar]

Sorry for your loss

Although if it’s a major upgrade

Congratulations

[livid idol]

I feel that pain. Impatiently waiting for Santa Clara store to open.

[livid idol]

They said it would be open in 2024 😭

[raven wharf]

I’m in Ohio so I have 3 micro center choices 🤑🤑

[livid idol]

But that also means you're in Ohio

[raven wharf]

I also love how microcenter is just the accepted like holy land of pcs

[raven wharf]

I don’t have to worry about hurricanes, tsunamis, volcanos or earthquakes

And I get all 4 seasons, sometimes in a week

[livid idol]

It's mostly because of the shortage days. They don't do online sales of big ticket items, so it was one of the only places that an average person could reasonably get a GPU without using a bot service.

[raven wharf]

Yeah that makes sense

Did they do that for the PS5 and Xbox series when they launched? I remember hearing those being hard to find as well

[livid idol]

I'm not sure that they sell consoles at all

[little slate]

is there a set time when newegg usually restocks?

I know there used to be back in the 30 series days, but I haven't kept up since

[cerulean rover]

Nah, they might have to bring back shuffle

[livid idol]

Sometimes we get about an hour's notice before a restock of high demand items here, but don't count on that.

[random walrus]

After all those reviews the past couple days?

Wait hold on chat

Is it morally ok to scalp a bad product? Like if some fanboy is gonna buy it anyways no matter the price/perf...

[odd siren]

Morally reprehensible

But, does it matter if people are all happy? No

There are no bad products, only bad prices

People sell things way above price all the time

Look at any business consultant in the private or public sector lmfao

[junior locust]

What are you upgrading from?

[forest oasis]

morally probably still terrible but i would still do it because if anybody buys it, it's their fault for paying extra even with all the negative reviews that came out

i definitely wouldnt camp to buy all the stock just to scalp though

not worth the energy

[random walrus]

Like I personally think that if you scalp a reasonably priced product you're kinda just scum.
Buuuut scalping an already overpriced Nvidia product is essentially punishing those who were going to buy & support ngreedia anyways

[odd siren]

Ye it's morally reprehensible

But it's on them if they accept the bad price

Rock and a hard place

[random walrus]

Unrelated but check out the new react/reply/forward buttons

Idk if those are beta or full release

[odd siren]

It's like a knight saying "WHERE'S YOUR HONOUR?"

[forest oasis]

tbh
anybody buying a gpu wouldnt be missing out much by continuing to buy a 40 series anyways
just the media engine improvement is the main useful upgrade imo

nvidia upped the quality nvenc so that might be useful for video editors, but everything else is like.... mehhhh

[random walrus]

Edit: I think it's beta cause they showed up under my own message lol

[forest oasis]

i've been seeing them for a while but i'm on the beta branch of discord mobile

[random walrus]

I'm on beta branch too. Mighta just not updated it for a while idk

Or it's A/B

Now @discord let me swipe right to view members list!

[odd siren]

OMG

I WANT THAT BACK SO BAD

I HATE NOT HAVING IT

[keen nacelle]

PLEASE

[random walrus]

Like even if it isn't default, at least having a toggle for it would be great for OG users

[junior locust]

Yeah that's like

Such a bad change to remove that

[keen nacelle]

I STILL swipe for the user list

And it takes me like three times to remember im an idiot and its up top

[solemn panther]

Oh

[craggy pier]

You wouldnt be missing out much buying a 1060 for the average person tbh

Only thing youre "missing out" is crappy games that force ray tracing

Not many games with those performance requirements right now are really worth that kind of hardware

[rich cedar]

I should infiltrate Nvidias discord and post their stuff here

All the suckers

[forest oasis]

1060???

i guess if you mean people that are just doing text editing

but in that case, just use the igpu

[quartz gull]

My local microcenter said they were getting 13 5090 GPUs

By the 29th at 5pm there was already 20ish people camping

Like damn I guess I'll wait a while

How does a big store like microcenter get 13 total 5090's

That's insane

[crimson saffron]

3 stores got 0

[quartz gull]

They said check back last week of Feb or early March for restock

Paper launch

[quartz gull]

GN has a lot of industry insiders and is friends with one of the California microcenter GMs

When Duluth store said 13 GPUs I was like ??????

The had about 50 for the 4090 launch

[odd siren]

Duluth got more gpus than the entirety of Australia dude

Quebec got zero at all, not even 5080s lmao

[quartz gull]

Marietta (there's two microcenters 20 minutes from each other in GA)

Had 0 allotment

But I mean if they're that close to each other it doesn't really matter

[odd siren]

Rip everyone camping out there

[quartz gull]

Oh Marietta told everyone to camp at Duluth

The microcenter employees are very nice to campers

Even rope off a "camping" section for big launches

[odd siren]

I cannot wait to see this hit news circulation

I swear this is less stock than 30 series

[rich cedar]

Why should reviewers even bother covering nvidia products at this point?

Overpriced and underperforming

I get like: “Oh, here’s another option” but if nobody is buying them on a consumer level is there even a point?

[odd siren]

I had a different take in another server earlier

They should consider more than just the US msrp from now on imo

It seems like other countries are slowly creeping in price

While the US msrp remains fleeting and low

[rich cedar]

2k isn’t really fleeting and low

[odd siren]

It is in other countries

Over here it starts at 2500 for "msrp"

[rich cedar]

Fair

[odd siren]

It used to be 1:1 to usa

We aren't even the worst

Earlier I saw $1800 5080's as the start price

[rich cedar]

The US probably makes up a good section of sales