graphics-cards

[solid glacier]

I don’t got windows installed

Bios is done, now should I put in the other ram stick?

Idk why it says unknown for memory

[livid idol]

It just doesn't have the model name programmed

[solid glacier]

Now I hold power button down and plug in other ram stick?

[livid idol]

It should just take one click to turn off the power

[solid glacier]

Bet

For the windows

In the usb tool should I turn pc off and then plug usb in

[livid idol]

If you want to boot from usb then it needs to be in during POST for it to detect the bootloader

[solid glacier]

Oh ight, I gatta change it in bios right?

As a boot option

[livid idol]

If it's the only bootable device in the system it won't matter

[solid glacier]

Ight

[solid glacier]

I restarted pc

And now red cpu light and dram light is on

I can’t freakin win man

[livid idol]

Try another usb port

[solid glacier]

I didn’t even get to do windows yet

I already flashed bios

I was trying to do windows

Okay now only white light is on and dram light

Those should turn off

Hopefully 🤞🏻

Now only DRAM light is on

These ram sticks must be shut idk

[odd siren]

How about wait 5 minutes

Cos AM5 takes forever to train ram

[solid glacier]

It’s usually instant

Usually skips right past the orange light

I waited 25 mins lol only fix was reseating ram

[odd siren]

Nope

It's NOT instant on first train

Following boots use memory saved training settings

The first boot is ALWAYS long

I would know on my 2nd AM5 system

[solid glacier]

Ight so in 5 mins it should boot up?

[odd siren]

Should do

If not then you have another issue

[solid glacier]

Yea I set a timer for 5 mins it Jsut rang

So idk now

[odd siren]

You have a different issue then

[solid glacier]

Ram must be the issue then

[odd siren]

CMOS reset, set bios up again, try again

[solid glacier]

I’ll just return the parts lol

Sick of dealing with this

Ngl

I CMOs resetted bios resetted attested 5 times

[odd siren]

Lol I'm so convinced that it's not the parts since this is iirc like the 4th pc you've tried

I am very convinced it's not the pc

Lightning can strike twice, not four times

Sorry to put you on the spot but I'm convinced there's something else at play causing your issue

[solid glacier]

My last pc the ram sticks were dead changed ram fixed the problem

[odd siren]

And then you ran into stability issues

I remember

There's at least 2 XTX pc's in this track record lmfao

[solid glacier]

I’m talking about the 4080 super build I did

[odd siren]

Ain't no way you get 2 pc's in a row with bad ram

[solid glacier]

It’s possible lol

[odd siren]

And two other pc's with bad gpus??

Sorry, I'm not convinced

[solid glacier]

Yur

[odd siren]

You can't convince me

[livid idol]

Even with 1 in a million odds, there's hundreds of possible cases there

[odd siren]

There's something you've plugged in that's just dirty af power or something else you're doing

[solid glacier]

All I did to this pc was flash bios it updated bios and ran fine then when I reboot the pc To plug in the usb for windows the lights come back on

[odd siren]

I remember my own pc doing this @livid idol

Remember the SSD that killed my 7950X3D

Again

You've plugged something in

And that thing is deadly to it

[solid glacier]

So you think it’s my USB stick lol

[odd siren]

I'm convinced it's something you've plugged in

[solid glacier]

So most likely USB stick then

I’ll try a dif usb stick maybe

[livid idol]

I've had a SATA M.2 that absolutely hated the R5 1600 system it was plugged into, it refused to post with it in but the drive still works to this day in my newer system, and I swapped it for a nvme drive so that works too now.

[odd siren]

Shoutout to the store that accepted my story about their ssd killing their cpu and replacing and refunding both no problems

[solid glacier]

So I’m gonna have to CMOs my pc again, Flags bios AGAIN all with a dif USb stick

Alrifhttt

[odd siren]

Why flash again

Just unplug it wtf

Flash is done why do it again

Just unplug the damn thing

LOL

[solid glacier]

Unplug the pc?

[livid idol]

He needs to install windows though

[solid glacier]

^

[odd siren]

You don't need to flash with the stick

[solid glacier]

I have antoher USB stick I can try

[odd siren]

Who said anything about windows??

Ok

[livid idol]

.

[odd siren]

Put the install media on the other usb

You don't need to flash again tho wtf

[solid glacier]

Well both lights r on now though only thing that clears it is a cmos

Red cpu light and orange dram light

[odd siren]

[solid glacier]

Funny

[odd siren]

Mayhaps it's another thing plugged in then

Let me probe something here

Have you always used like

The same mouse

Keyboard

Maybe a display

[solid glacier]

There all changed

I got nothing plugged in

I’m gonna call it a night deal with it in the morning

[odd siren]

Alr

[solid glacier]

Bro

Your a genius

It was the USB stick😭

[odd siren]

[solid glacier]

That’s crazy

Bc guess what

That whole time I was using that USB stick in my other pcs

[odd siren]

There's a reason people answer to me around here mate

Hahahahaha

[solid glacier]

But… the dram light is still on💀

[odd siren]

On but you're in bios?

[solid glacier]

No

It froze

[odd siren]

Ok so it's been what like

[solid glacier]

Had to restart

[odd siren]

Black screen

[solid glacier]

Ye

[odd siren]

Ok

Leave it for 5 minutes

If nothing

[solid glacier]

bet

[odd siren]

Then the USB contributed to the issue

But there is still an issue at hand

And

It will DEFINITELY

Be something plugged in

Whether inside or outside the pc

AM5 has this interesting behaviour where the pc will literally give up if the i/o has a backfeed current

That's what's happening here

So patience, and keep working on the issue

You know what to do

[solid glacier]

Soo what does it mean when

There’s no lights on mobo

But not showing display

[odd siren]

If orange light, training ram

[solid glacier]

Uhhh

[odd siren]

If no lights but frozen

[solid glacier]

It just shut off

[odd siren]

Yep

[solid glacier]

By itself

[odd siren]

You still have a usb short still

[solid glacier]

wtf

[odd siren]

It's something lad lol

Something plugged in

[solid glacier]

Soo monitor or my USB

What do I clcik

Froze nvm

[solid glacier]

Had my USB plugged in

Iv tried so many dif USB slots

[odd siren]

Rip

Hm

Is it stable with 1 ram stick only?

[solid glacier]

Wonder if I have the usb cable plugged in loose maybe

[odd siren]

Maybe

[solid glacier]

Yea I think

[odd siren]

Chances are the backfeed could of cooked the io die

[solid glacier]

Okay so

It booted fine

Without the USB in

How tf do I get windows then LOL

2 USBs shot?

[odd siren]

Lmfao

Ok try a third usb

Let's be really sure about this

[solid glacier]

I don’t got one

[odd siren]

If the 3rd usb fails, you have a cooked cpu

[solid glacier]

Only 2

[odd siren]

Well

Try something else then, if the pc refuses to boot with more usb plugged in

RMA the cpui

Cooked io die

Same problem I had 2 months ago

[solid glacier]

I just got the cpu today gg

I dont think its the coy

Cpu

Only at 39C

[odd siren]

Even if it's displaying the exact same issue my own CPU had 2 months ago that was proven broken?

[solid glacier]

Oh

RMA takes foreve r

Won’t be gaming til atelast 3 weeks

[odd siren]

You are welcome to doubt me but the problem took me 10 months to figure out so

[solid glacier]

Should I try the 9800x3d in another slot

[odd siren]

Up to you

[solid glacier]

Antoher pc I mean

Not slot

[odd siren]

Up to you

I knew what that meant

Lol

[solid glacier]

Auesoton

My AIO cooler came with paste on it so I didn’t add any more paste on it

[forest oasis]

I'm gonna put my cpu in the ram slot

[solid glacier]

Time to try again

Lights still on idk

Yea now the red cpu light snd orange dram light won’t go off

[solid glacier]

Hey since I got a 9800x3d should I use 2 or 1 cpu plug

[cerulean rover]

Consult the manual if needed, use both if possible

Older boards were fine with just having 1 but most recent boards want both

[solid glacier]

Ight

Well my cpu light and orange cpu light still on idek what to do anymore, they weren’t on yesterday now they are

We’ll play

Sooo

I put one stick in and it works

Is my ram to powerful

Maybe I gatta Lower them?

[cerulean rover]

One stick boots and 2 sticks won't?

[solid glacier]

Yep

I do got 64gb aswell

Both sticks are fine to bc I checked them both

[cerulean rover]

Tried swapping slots? 1 and 3 instead of 2 and 4? And if single stick boots on 2, does single stick boot on 4?

[solid glacier]

Isn’t it ideal to use 2 and 4 though? Or should I just try 1-3 to see if it’s my slot

[cerulean rover]

1 and 3 is generally equal to 2 and 4, that's to check if it's just a slot issue, if that won't work, try 1 and 2, bad for performance but if that works and the other options don't then I'd blame a memory channel on the cpu and reseat the CPU

[solid glacier]

Fixed it

But when I went to install windows11 it says my pc doesn’t match the requirements..?.

Should I download windows 10 and then upgrade to 11..?

[cerulean rover]

Do you have TPM enabled?

Or fTPM

[solid glacier]

What’s that

[cerulean rover]

Windows 11 wants you to have it enabled, there are ways to bypass it but it's usually easier to just enable it

It's for security

[solid glacier]

Let me check

What’s it under

[cerulean rover]

Boot/security

Usually

[cerulean rover]

Check trusted computing

And then there should be some kind of TPM device selection, just do ftpm

[solid glacier]

That’s weird mine doesn’t have it

[cerulean rover]

huh

It's usually default on now but the setting should still be there for checking it

[solid glacier]

My mobo is msi b650 gaming plus wifi

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B650-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI/Specification

[cerulean rover]

This is supposed to look like this lmao

[solid glacier]

Wtfff

[cerulean rover]

Not sure why it's not letting you install w11 if it's on by default

[odd siren]

Why do you have no ftpm wtf

Was I actually right and your io die is cooked

[solid glacier]

Io?

Wym io

[odd siren]

9800X3D has 2 dies

A die for cpu cores

And a die for basically everything else

[solid glacier]

Bruh

[odd siren]

The everything else is i/o die

This includes an ftpm

[solid glacier]

Well I fixed my booting problem both ram sticks work with usb to

[odd siren]

This story continues to get more interesting

[solid glacier]

It could be a cooked Bios version

But I got the non latest beta

I’ll download windows 10 and see what happens ig

[cerulean rover]

It's possible that MSI moved the bios option somewhere else but yea get windows 10 and check if TPM is on or off, if it's off and there's no way to turn it on, I'd start blaming the CPU

[solid glacier]

I could try reseating my cpu to

[solid glacier]

STill no option even under windows 10

[cerulean rover]

I mean run the windows tool for checking w11 compatibility and see what the issue is

My guess is no TPM but that'll say for sure

[solid glacier]

Yes no TPM

It says

So gg

Cpu is cooked

Could it be the mobo to or no

Yo

@odd siren I

It’s on but windows won’t recognize it

[solid glacier]

Idk what to do lol

Doesn’t even show under there

Here

[cerulean rover]

it's really sounding like the io die is borked

[solid glacier]

so the cpu?

i dont get how its the cpu

bc it says ftpm2.0 enabled in bios?

what if its windows not reconizing it

Or the tpm chip on the mobo

Should I try reseating cpu

[cerulean rover]

definitely reseat the cpu

[livid idol]

It'll be easier to see if it's enabled properly using hwinfo summary, it's nice and color coded

[solid glacier]

Bet ill try that

[cerulean rover]

select summary only on startup, TPM is shown there, not on sensor view

[cerulean rover]

yea no tpm

[solid glacier]

So my cpu is cooked

so should i rma it then or try reseating it

[solid glacier]

where do u see no tpm

[solid glacier]

oh

welp gg

[cerulean rover]

reseat it, if it doesn't work still, rma it

[solid glacier]

bet

i bought from newegg in a bundle

i think i would have to return the other part to no?

[cerulean rover]

If you're trying to return it, you'd have to return the entire bundle, but if you're just trying to get a replacement, you'll be contacting AMD for a RMA

[solid glacier]

bet ty

do i do a warranty claim or rma claim

the rma process is gonna be forever bc the 9800x3d is out of stock everywhere xD

[peak moth]

i was thinking of buying a used 3050 almost brand new, but i thought of bottleneck, and i wanted to ask if it would impact too much with my current cpu?, currently i have a ryzen 5 3500x with a gtx 1650 and i would like some help or any info 🙏

[odd siren]

Go get a 5700xt instead @peak moth

Way faster and similar price

3050's are some of the least desirable cards on the market rn

Ray tracing is basically non-existent on them

[peak moth]

oh

well i dont really intend to use rtx

i just want to upgrade

im trying to get this one for 150

i dont really like amd gpu's since everybody i know that has them complains about the garbage drivers they have

[hot bough]

RMA. I had to do this with my 7950x3D.

Be warned:

• Expect about a week of Customer Support emails going back and forth explaining the issue.

• about 1-2 weeks to ship to them (they pay for shipping)

• Waiting another week to hear back on if they found an issue with your chip in which case they will give you a replacement

• then waiting for it to ship to you.

Overall the RMA process took about 40 days for me though granted I was in Mexico when I did this.

[hot bough]

If you end up having to put up with DHL email customer support like I did, you need to be extremely clear as to what you are asking them like trying to explain something to a child in a way that a newborn can understand. Once you have the papers to print and the instructions I strongly recommend going to DHL in person they will know what to do with it.

.

I know the pain that is dealing with AMD's RMA all to well.

[odd siren]

5700XT's are like 2x faster and often go for 120

[odd siren]

Also anyone who complains like this either bnought a DOA card or haven't used AMD since the Polaris/Early RDNA 1 era

People often come to us in my experience, blaming the card, then find the problem was in fact something else entirely

AMD drivers have been very stable for a couple years now, comparable to nvidia

[random walrus]

That's wild. When I did a PSU RMA thru Corsair they just charged me for a new one, then refunded once they received the old one

[solid glacier]

Pins look fine to

[solid glacier]

Now this is showing up after reseating my cpu lol

Okay so reseated cpu and still don’t got the ftpm option

[forest oasis]

that's what google does as well

well, they don't charge you in google's case

they pre-authorize a payment for a new unit, send you a replacement

then after receiving it they remove the pre-authorization

though this is only if you get the RMA option that is to keep the existing product until the replacement arrives

if you ship off the faulty thing to them first, and they check it then send a replacement, then you dont have to preauthorize anything

[solid glacier]

time to rma :(

[tough plinth]

my pc crashed and when i turned it back on and opened apex it crashed the game, and overwatch is set to the lowest settings and its running at 6 fps. my gpu isnt show in hwmonitor or task manager and my cpu is at 100%

[tough plinth]

i ran ddu and its back on hwmonitor and task manager

[random walrus]

Yeah this mighta actually been what Corsair did, I forget

[peak moth]

i see

ill take it in mind

thanks

[finite raptor]

Just a heads up for these looking to buy the RTX 5090 and possibly the rest of them.

[harsh sandal]

Should I get a 7900XT/X or wait until CES2025

I feel like the 20gb/24gb vram will last long enough

[keen nacelle]

being this close i just don't see why not personally

[random walrus]

@hot bough good luck getting one for $1800 or whatever you were predicting whilst huffing all that hopium /lh

[odd siren]

$2500 for a 5090 would actually make it worthless for me to buy vs the 4090

My 4090 would maintain value

Thinking on it, I genuinely believe that 5090 won't sell if it spikes to $2500

Most 5090 buyers are high end market

But not really all that stupid

Spending over 50% more for a less than 50% increase is insane

$2500 would be ridiculous

I reckon 2000 but then they quickly sell out, then the price rise takes hold

Yeah I reckon they won't do $2500 as the "Official" msrp but then after all the initial wave is done, within that same week it could jump that high

The tariffs can be expected as early as the 20th, but by then shipments will be out so they can paper launch a BS price then sell the majority at the real inflated price

Yeah that tells me a lot about the next launch ngl

I was thinking of jumping. I've quickly changed my mind

Lmfao

Next launch will be bs

[cerulean rover]

I think I'll try jumping on next gen as it launches and try to get it at MSRP, if it's crap then I won't get it, but if it's average, I'll take it and leave it be for another few years

[keen nacelle]

I'm not bothering, I just got a 2080 ti (that looks like a 2070 since it has a 2070 shroud) and im sticking with that for a few years

[cerulean rover]

I have a 3060ti but I want to get something better sooner rather than later for my 1440p OLED panel

Either I'll get this next generation right away if it's good/decent, or I'm waiting another year

[keen nacelle]

yeah i was on a 3060 ti but it dieded

traded it+$90 for this 2080 ti

im happy with the 10% perf uplift and extra vram, considering im at 1440p

[cerulean rover]

fair

[raven wharf]

dont lie to yourself itll be bought up and scalped regardless of its price

some people have so much money and will want the best it doesnt matter what they pay imo

hopefully rdna saves us with a good entry-midrange and makes it competitive with intel

not that i see myself upgrading, but an x3d chip would be awesome to have

maybe once zen 6 comes

[raven wharf]

so a dead 3060ti and just 90 bucks for a 2080 ti? thats not bad at all, even if it is a generation behind

[random walrus]

Wasn't dead iirc, just needed a repaste

the 2 cards go for about the same used on ebay so whoever gave the 2080ti is basically getting paid $90 to repaste it

[spiral grove]

Any of you guys do the buy broken and try to fix, Seems like a fun hobby. Plus after each card you usually get a few extra free screws!

[neat trellis]

I just got my heads on the acer nitro intel arc b580, anyone know anything about it

[random walrus]

you're the one who bought it lol

but yeah assuming you got it for msrp ($250) it's a great card

[neat trellis]

Yeah but I can’t really find any reviews on this specific card atm

[random walrus]

Specific models don't matter much as long as it's staying cool

[frosty osprey]

[cosmic bluff]

Do expect some driver hiccups to be present but to be addressed later in patches, the performance is equal to little better in titles dependent on settings but worth the money

[harsh sandal]

Seeing how the “9080XT” has rumors to not outperform the 7900XT & the 5080 will possibly be $1500, I feel like I should just buy a 7900XT/X and be over with this.

[livid idol]

The most I can see us getting from AMD next gen is a GPU with 7900 XTX performance, slightly better RT, and lower power

[odd siren]

The current rumor mill is less than XTX raster, way better RT

Anywhere between a 500-700 price

But that could go way up going off the stupid rumours of nvidia pricing

[livid idol]

Yes I forgot the less money part. They're saving a lot of it by not bothering doing all the R&D for the halo products.

Hopefully that gets passed to us, but who knows what will happen to prices next year

[odd siren]

If it actually works out AMD will cut right into Nvidia's mid range and raise hell

Following intel maybe getting Celestial doing a repeat push in a couple years

[livid idol]

Plus Intel nipping at the midrange too now

Yep

[odd siren]

Oh yeah

Nvidia has sharks circling

Hopefully it amounts to something

[livid idol]

It'll amount to them wiping their tears over gamer market share loss with their stacks of money from AI

[odd siren]

Fr

But that's a big deal

As Intel found out this year...

☠️

Goes to show the consumer first hand choice matters more than companies think

[livid idol]

To a point. SI companies continue to offer exclusively Intel based selections and in the end those contracts matter too.

That's a big part of why Intel hasn't lost more market share. People don't build, they just buy.

Even with every single one of the top 10 selling Amazon CPUs being AMD

AM4 is outselling LGA1851

[odd siren]

Oh yeah

But when all the reviews say

"Don't buy this"

"It fails"

"It's not better"

It's all mind share

And as intel found out it vastly affected mindshare

Even in enterprise

[livid idol]

The part that it failed at was so spectacularly stupid too, you had to wonder if Intel even tested it at all. You can't install Windows without taking out your GPU first. Like wat

[odd siren]

Lol

But mindshare is a lot

But as even intel has demonstrated

Halo tier doesn't matter

It matters to what people know they can buy

They just need to power forward fixing drivers as fast as possible

Cos man

Doozy

[livid idol]

They'll need to fix a lot more than drivers to fix the windows installation issues. If they're lucky it's an easy one to mitigate and they just disable the iGPU if a dGPU is detected until it starts to load into Windows.

[odd siren]

Giving me XTX vibes:

https://www.igorslab.de/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/11-Gaming-Power.png

The sustained upper limit is very maintained though

So their tdp estimate was high in the way of what the card actually does unlike AMD

So it will bounce up to about 240W, or a 25% increase

Which is not bad tbh

[finite raptor]

RIP 💰

[livid idol]

Yeah that's about what I'd expect accounting for the new tariffs

For an expensive purchase like this it might end up cheaper to drive to Canada or Mexico and buy it there

[finite raptor]

Will see... If it's cheaper flying over. I will do that. Can't drive for long distance.

[livid idol]

Flying isn't likely to be cheaper unless you get $100 international tickets somehow

[finite raptor]

Ya i doubt it too, but if it was I'd do it

And go on a Lil vacation while I'm there

[wanton grove]

How much would an MSI GeForce GTX 1650 Super Gaming X be worth?

[craggy pier]

New maybe 150 at most (and thats generous), used probs 100 or so bucks

that particular model probs could be marked up a bit

but nothing crazy

[odd siren]

Welcome back titan, 💀

[solemn panther]

Soon PC gaming will be only for the high middle class to rich

[craggy pier]

me when you arent forced to keep buying the latest parts

nobody is holding you at gunpoint

[solemn panther]

True

[craggy pier]

i guarantee where theres a market theres an opportunity for someone else to fill the slot if the monopolys get lazy

there will be a point when nvidia isnt the top dog anymore, or at least the nvidia we have now

[livid idol]

I can see Nvidia stepping back from the gaming market more to focus on enterprise sales

[odd siren]

If that 9070XT drops for $700 nvidia will be given a face full of wake up medicine

[livid idol]

Nah they'll just cry into their pillows full of money

They've already figured out that almost no matter what people are going to buy from them, at least around launch

[odd siren]

They will until the reviewers all say it sucks

[livid idol]

It's just like Intel with the 200 series. They all sold out even though every reviewer said not to buy it, but now they can't even give the things away

[odd siren]

Yep

The flagships got swiped

Now they have a complete reverse trend

Nvidia is gonna get a rude awakening at least with the 5060 anyway

[keen nacelle]

How bads the 5060 looking to be

[livid idol]

No idea, it's still months away

Rumor has it that it's still 8GB though

And since GDDR7 is denser than G6 that means it'll be a smaller bus size

[keen nacelle]

64bit 5060 W

[livid idol]

More like 128b but yeah

[keen nacelle]

4060 is 128, right?

[livid idol]

Maybe I was thinking of the 3060 that was 192

[keen nacelle]

I doubt they'd do smaller

Iirc 4070 super is the lowest card over 128b

[livid idol]

I still find it amusing that they call it GDDR when it hasn't been double data rate in ages

GQDR would be more accurate

Even with a reduced bus the speed increase on GDDR7 means you won't lose a whole lot of bandwidth

But that still doesn't mean zero difference

[hot bough]

@odd siren, @grim kiln, @livid idol please help! I am not sure why but my GPU won't fully slot into the pcie lane. I tried two different X16 slots same issue.

I am unpacking and reassembling the pc

[livid idol]

Loosen the screws to the motherboard a little and try to slot it in again. The board probably shifted a bit in transit.

[hot bough]

K.

@livid idol same issue

Solved!

I found the problem.

During transit the little clip that goes around the mobo had bent a little.

I adjusted it slightly and it fits again

[ashen canyon]

RX6650XT or RX7600?

[wanton grove]

I need to make sure I'm not losing my mind. This GPU is fully seated, right?

[ashen canyon]

The lock is on?

[wanton grove]

It looks like it

[livid idol]

Looks good to me

[wanton grove]

Ok

[hot bough]

If none of the pins are visible you are fine.

[hot bough]

A excellent example of what I mean.

[odd siren]

Whichever is cheaper.

[wanton grove]

Just tested it after putting in my new custom cables, and it's alive

[hot bough]

Are you asking me or?

[ashen canyon]

Just asking in general

They are about the same price

[random walrus]

7600 slightly better but it's pretty close

[ashen canyon]

I ended up getting 7600 since it's newer architecture

[vale ore]

Asrock Steel Legend Arc B580 video card was out of stock. Got notification that it was back in stock while I was in a meeting this morning. Meeting ended and it was already sold out.
I'll never get an Arc 😦

[raven wharf]

So supposedly RDNA 4 is going to be labeled 9000 instead of 8000 series, and will be following GeForce’s style of naming, ex; 9070 XT ?

Rumors I heard from multiple posts and videos, I don’t agree with that decision at all if true

[odd siren]

Numbers beginning with 8 is ancient Asia superstition that it brings bad luck

Yes, this is even though they have 8000 APUs

Nvidia did this same thing btw when they went from the 780, to the 980

The other part of it...the 070 part? Idk, that's something else altogether

There's a few companies that follow that 8 superstition btw

I think Asus is guilty of it too with their phones iirc

[craggy pier]

Its because 7 8 9 when he wasnt looking 😔

[livid idol]

But then that would mean 9 is missing

[craggy pier]

Shh dont look too far into my logic

Or surface level for that matter

[odd siren]

OR

Or

7, 9 8

Wait

[livid idol]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-star-wars-yoda-approves-lightsaber-gif-18523506

[forest oasis]

nein

[solid glacier]

Anyone got a picture of their 4080super benchmark?

[vital oriole]

and yet nvidia still did 800M mobile

weird ngl

[fading glacier]

if the 8 is bad luck for them.... then why 80 series exists? should be a 4070 and then 4090

[odd siren]

Numbers beginning with 8

[fading glacier]

i dont think they hold those superstitions in high regard for sales

oh

-.-!

[odd siren]

It wasn't the flagship, AMD did this too with ryzen 8000 apus

[fading glacier]

then my comment is still true

[odd siren]

Yep

[vital oriole]

yea

[fading glacier]

not to forget the gforce 8 series, i still remember my 8800 back in the day

[vital oriole]

fair nuff

still funny how amd decided to go with nvidia style naming tho

9070 xt

[odd siren]

Definitely cursed

[vital oriole]

easy to understand but why

[odd siren]

Wha

I am no pig

[vital oriole]

9700xt is a nice name

[odd siren]

You unpig my pig

Thank you

[fading glacier]

[odd siren]

Btw

[vital oriole]

should've been called 9700xt

[odd siren]

Year of the pig was 2007

[vital oriole]

instead of 9070xt

[odd siren]

Geforce 8800 was 2006

So 8800 had that dawg in it

[fading glacier]

it was cursed from the start

hmm the plot thickens

[wild glen]

Is now a good time for me to buy a 7900 XT or should I wait? I found one for $1000 which seems high for a 7900 XT, but that's the price in my region.

[odd siren]

If that's the lower end of pricing that's always been in your region then I would say now before january 20th

Because after the 20th prices are gonna shoot up

There's not gonna be any lower prices next gen with the incoming tariffs

It just won't happen

[livid idol]

That is rather high imo, it should get cheaper in the next few months when the new gen drops

[livid idol]

That's just in the US though

[odd siren]

You think they'll set lower msrps anywhere else?

People will just import

And then the US will block that too, they've already said they would

It's going to impact everyone, whether by varying amounts or the same across the board

Cos businesses will try to skirt the rules

I'm expecting a flat higher msrp, they've already shown such in AU and UK (if you can believe pre-release prices)

[livid idol]

I just need to drive to canada and get a few $3000 GPUs, maybe I can make a 5% profit margin after the currency change fee and fuel

[odd siren]

Lol

Either way this gen is a skip imo

Complete skip

[livid idol]

Yeah even before the tariff nonsense

[odd siren]

Next gen they'll try "do better" then we get a proper change

[livid idol]

Oh and Nvidia and AMD are importing as much as they can before tariffs drop

[odd siren]

@wild glen Gonna stress this btw, I haven't felt like this since covid

It's not gonna get better

I'm very sure of it rn

[odd siren]

Of available skus

Ye

Think of it this way

Prices came down even after 30 series

40 series however

Never went down

Rdna 2 dropped massively

Rdna 3 came down somewhat

The cheapening trend has stagnated however for a while now

We saw barely any change this year

6950XTs got down to like $530?

Two years ago they were $560

The tariffs are just gonna wash hands of any lower prices

Lol

[livid idol]

6950 was nuts, we'll never see that again

[odd siren]

Yep, I'm glad I got one, still great

6700xt too

7900XT as well honestly

I would grab it now if the pricing is good for the region historically

Near 650usd is solid

[wild glen]

and the 7900xt is better gpu than the upcoming gen right? bec i wanna play 1440 at 240+ fps in fps game like marvel rivels and ow2

[odd siren]

It'll be about the same maybe a little worse

Point is, doesn't matter

The prices will wash any value proposition out of waiting now

Thanks to tariffs

You could bank on the chance that it's lower for your region but nvidia and amd set their msrp's based on us market pricing

So it's looking pretty much set in stone imo

And either way you'll barely lose out if I'm wrong

Since the 9070xt won't be game changing

It'd have to be a $500 card which just won't happen

It's looking like a $700 card which puts it mildly better than a 7900XT

And that's on the proviso you care about ray tracing

My take is not to bother with that personally, too many ducks in a row on this one to make it potentially be a price disaster

[wild glen]

i don't need it in fps games ig

[odd siren]

Ye

You'll get 240fps in fps games

That's very easy to do

Fps games are designed to be lightweight

Or in cod's situation, very amd heavy anyway

So you should fare well regardless

There's a lot of risk waiting until after January 20th

Hell, waiting until after the amd announcement

Your choice tho, me, I would play safe

It worked out for everyone last gen

Used 6900XT/6950XT I've heard has gotten as low as like $450 now which is frankly incredible

[finite raptor]

Can someone help me understand if I'll benefit from using all 16 lanes of Gen5 on a Mobo with the rumored 1.52 TB/s Bandwidth for RTX 5090. Or can I take half the lanes for additional Gen 5 M.2 and have no performance drops on the GPU.

[forest oasis]

It probably will be the first time that a full 16x slot would be overkill for a gpu

Wait till benchmarks exist first before you even attempt that, though I'm not sure if you'll be able to half the lanes on the main PCIe slot lmao

[finite raptor]

So the Mobo I'm using is Asus Strix x870e. From what I've read it has 3 Gen5 M.2 slots, but only 1 dedicated to the CPU and the other 2 is shared with the GPU's PCIe lanes. So if I take either of the 2, I will be loosing half the lanes that goes to the GPU.

[keen nacelle]

if I remember right the 4090 doesn't even use the entirety of pcie 4.0 16x

[finite raptor]

Right it didn't need the full bandwidth of Gen 4, so with Gen 5 I'm hoping half the lanes will be more than enough for 5090.

But I'm bad with Math and new at Tech stuff

Rumored 5090 specs has a Bandwidth of 1.52 TB/s

[livid idol]

Only one way to know for sure, but we have a good guess that the 5090 will be using about 40% more bandwidth then the 4090, which doesn't use all 16 4.0 lanes fully

[finite raptor]

How much bandwidth does the 4090 use?

[livid idol]

I'm going based on memory in this case. The GDDR7 is clocked 33% higher and the memory bus is larger too. It's roughly 40% more total memory bandwidth when I did the math before.

[finite raptor]

Chat Gpt has it at 1,008 GB/s

So a 500 GB/s increase?

[livid idol]

Hmm looks like the rumored spec changed from when I did that math

That all checks out

[finite raptor]

I'll do some more interogation with Chat Gpt.. lol

But I'm hoping I can use half the bandwidth without loosing any performance for the GPU

[junior locust]

PCIE 5.0 8× will be the exact same bandwidth as PCIE 4.0 16×

[finite raptor]

Yes that I understand

and 4090 doesn't fully utilize all of it

[odd siren]

The loss is never 0

[finite raptor]

Even if its overkill?

[odd siren]

It will be likely marginal but it's never 0

Even if overkill

[junior locust]

It's like

Probably margin of error if the 5090 will in fact be PCIE 5.0

[random walrus]

Don't trust chatgpt for facts unless it's linking you articles. genAI tends to hallucinate numbers

[odd siren]

It's within margin but not error

It's a trackable difference, always is

Even the 3090 had scaling to 4.0, it just was basically nothing

[finite raptor]

I'm using it more for the Math.. I get my rumored specs from other sites

[junior locust]

Like if we're talking a PCIE 5.0 16× design on the 5090
You can run it in PCIE 5.0 8× and get almost the same perf if it doesn't exceed used bandwidth

[odd siren]

Again, even if it doesn't exceed

[junior locust]

If my understanding is correct

[odd siren]

Number is not 0%

[junior locust]

Ye I know
Hence saying ALMOST the same perf

[finite raptor]

It's what I'm hoping for.

[junior locust]

My point is that PCIE 5.0 8× will pretty much drive it to capability while leaving lanes for SSD (just make sure to use bifurcation in the BIOS and a suitable adapter)

[odd siren]

This is ignoring that no consumer pc will ever need more than one high end ssd let alone a gen 5

[junior locust]

You do have to consider the overheads on the adapters you'd need

Also what Felix said

[odd siren]

It's going to have some impact even if minimal

It will never be 0%

[junior locust]

Unless you just wanna go full stupid and do gen5 NVME RAID0

RAID 0 is hilarious but also ill-advised NGL

[odd siren]

Not even some servers need this kind of output

[junior locust]

I did say it's full stupid

[finite raptor]

Never heard of RAID0

[junior locust]

It's striping 2 drives into one

[finite raptor]

Ah kinda like SLI?

[junior locust]

Makes it so you can read and write faster
Buuuut you do need two drives for it

[odd siren]

If you're not aware of raid you're not ready for raid

[junior locust]

Absolute FACTS

Also raid 0 is the least secure type

Like if one of the drives in ghe array dies

All your data is GONE

[finite raptor]

I was just wanting to separate my OS from Storage

[odd siren]

Even the most intelligent people will break a pc with raid

You're not ready for raid

[finite raptor]

Just makes it easier to wipre out the OS without affecting my Storage

[junior locust]

Oh not just the OS

[odd siren]

Just get a nice C910 or something similar then

[junior locust]

Ah

[odd siren]

You don't need anything better, it'll just make things more stupid

[junior locust]

Get a 256 gig PCIE 3.0 NVME for OS and a SATA SSD for all the other stuff

[finite raptor]

Understood, I don't plan on it. Just never heard of the term

[odd siren]

Not even I would go that low

Lol

[junior locust]

It's a Redundant Array of Independent Disks

R A I D

[junior locust]

I mean fair, I've done worse kek

[finite raptor]

I have a 2TB Samsung 990 Pro for it + Storage

[junior locust]

But this ain't the storage talk channel

You'll be fine

[odd siren]

How did I guess the ssd before it was even mentioned

[finite raptor]

Ya, just wanted the ease of cleaning out the OS

[odd siren]

Ok I know where this is going

[finite raptor]

But anyways... Looks like I won't loose performance by taking half the Gen5 lanes. At least not for Gaming

[junior locust]

I mean
You don't have to

Like there are dedicated PCIE lanes in a mobo that directly connect the SSD to the CPU

You just need to use the right slot on the motherboard (and for that REFERENCE THE MANUAL)

[finite raptor]

yup, I will be using that for Gaming. Crucial T705

I'll shut up now...

[junior locust]

Nah ur good fam

[livid idol]

Even if it links an article, make sure to actually open the link and verify. GN Steve was talking about how it claimed the Ryzen 2000 series came out in 2019 and linked their own site as a reference, and in the review it was clearly 2018.

[forest oasis]

I've never seen anybody make this comparison and ironically it's somewhat accurate lmao

[forest oasis]

Partition the drive and it would be as easy as having a dedicated drive for OS

[forest oasis]

Lmao for real
Somehow it can cite sources but still hallucinate information

[finite raptor]

I didn't know portioning can do that. So if I wanted to get rid of Virus or Bloatware, reinstalling windows won't affect storage files?

[forest oasis]

As long as you look before clicking

If you just click a random partition to reinstall windows to, then you'll affect storage files

Just give your os partition like 100gb and the data partition the rest, and it would be easily visible

[finite raptor]

Awsome, Thanks. Now I won't have to worry about taking half of the PCIe lanes

[random walrus]

Yeah idk about the chatgpt UI but I use Perplexity and it gives inline citations to the sites it uses which is nice

Never thought I'd use an ai to search for me but funnily enough it's pretty good at filtering through all the ai SEO slop articles

[random walrus]

Uhm

Went to undervolt my gpu and it crashed kombustor then rebooted my pc

I've gotten gpu crashea before but not the whole PC like that

[random dock]

Sounds normal

[quick finch]

after looking things over (and per recommendation), I think I am going to go with 7900xt as my GPU. Question though: does it matter what manufacturer it is? Is there a difference (huge or otherwise)? Just for example; Gigabyte versus Asus. I understand there may be a price difference, but other than that, what else differences, if any? And again, thank you for any info/input

[odd siren]

Very little, the bigger coolers are generally quieter but otherwise nothing to speak of

Shop by price, it's very straightforward

We could discuss some having slightly higher power limits than others but that basically starts and ends with the phantom gaming anyway (best and pretty quiet)

[craggy pier]

Basically it only matters if youve taken care to have your entire machine be quiet

It doesnt matter if you have a quiet gpu if your cpu cooler is having an aneurysm or your motherboard is buzzing like a bumblebee (theres also some part quality stuff and funi rainbow leds)

[quick finch]

Ok, gotcha. Thank you for that info :3

[junior locust]

Is the Sapphire Nitro+ worth going for over a Sapphire Pulse if it's the same price (both 7900XTs)

[craggy pier]

No

Jk

If its the same no reason not to

https://www.sapphirenation.net/nitro-vs-pulse-what-are-the-differences

[junior locust]

Huh they have a page about that

[livid idol]

Nitro+ has a significantly higher power limit

[junior locust]

Tmyk

[livid idol]

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/253733/sapphire-rx7900xt-20480-221129
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/253053/sapphire-rx7900xt-24576-221129

[junior locust]

Does it still have the swappable fan thing they used to do?

Back in the Vega 65 and RX 580 era

[livid idol]

I'm not sure

XFX does I think

[craggy pier]

Thats on the nitro+ 7900xt spec page

Whether its under warranty or not im unsure

[forest oasis]

hmm yes, fans, the thing that will die often during the warranty period and definitely isnt a gimmick for 99% of the time

will there still be replacement blades when the bearing eventually wears out like 6 years later

[craggy pier]

Time to pull out the floor fan

[quartz gull]

I'm so excited for the 5090 rn

[craggy pier]

Im so excited for dinner tonight

[random walrus]

Real

[odd siren]

@livid idol @keen nacelle AMD just gave away what the sku performance will look like

It's a subtle hint in the new naming explanation

9070/XT = 7900XT - 7800XT
9060+ = >4060

XTX up top so guess I'm skipping them too

Lmao

Notice how even they seem to have a good idea how 50 series slots in

This slide could be extremely truthful lol

[keen nacelle]

maybe theyll release smthn a bit better down the line, but i doubt it

[odd siren]

Nah they don't need to as long as they hit mid range

I want it to be as cheap as possible

Less rnd for high end - hell yeah

[craggy pier]

if only there was the prospects of a reasonably priced 9050

[quartz gull]

No way it's going to be a $900 increase right?

[raven wharf]

pfft

[quartz gull]

$1999 isn't as bad as I was fearing

[raven wharf]

i have first offical post of 50 series in gpu channel

ha

[lyric gate]

YOOOO! thast 5080 is calling my name!!!!

[lyric gate]

Lol my boy Gavin was ON THAT!

[craggy pier]

16gb vram

[hot bough]

If this is true then my guesstimate of 1,899-1,999 was right.

[junior locust]

Damn, time to sell a kidney and a lung so I can afford the 5090 and a PSU upgrade

EU prices always creep up from US MSRP

[junior locust]

I was expecting closer to 2500

And honestly for EU that's probably happening

[finite raptor]

I think they just made scalping worst, especially with those 5070's.

[misty lake]

Any idea when we will be able to purchase them?

[misty lake]

Yeah 100%. I don't see them selling for under $1k

[hot bough]

All goes well I should be able to purchase a 5090 (assuming $2k) in a month.

then my 7950x3D finally won't be bottlenecked by my 3070 lmao.

[junior locust]

Honestly you would want to upgrade to the 9950X3D while at it

[raven wharf]

5090/80 launch Jan 30 I believe, 70 series in feb

No chance you can buy them at that date they are going to be scalped

Once hype dies down in a few months is prob the best bet

[hot bough]

As time passes probably

But I am not going to blow an additional $800 for like a 5% increase in performance any time soon.

[junior locust]

Fair

[misty lake]

Not if I become the scalper

I just want one lmao

[hot bough]

I am desperately trying to find some good fans with nice ARGB lighting.

Any thoughts?

I am trying to find fans that:

• Performs better than P12s
• Quality lighting (ideally with side lights)
• preferably also has 140mm model

[junior locust]

Very hard honestly

[hot bough]

https://www.amazon.com/GAMDIAS-3x120mm-Standard-Motherboards-Installation-Management/dp/B0CXDXT24W/ref=mp_s_a_1_8_sspa?

Those if the specs are true are quite tempting.

74cfm and 3 for the pressure

Reviews with pictures all seem to be quite positive

Hmmm

Looking deeper reviews mention some quality issues here and there.

[livid idol]

"If the specs are true"
100% they're not. Every brand measures things differently. I know at least 2 that measure noise by subtracting the ambient dB, which is just completely wrong.

Only third party reviews with standardized testing practices can say for sure

[hot bough]

Rip

[little slate]

Anyone else worried that they're going to need a PSU with 2x PCIe 600W ports to power AiB 5090's? The reference card is listed to pull up to 575W...

I just got a new 1000W PSU for my 9800x3d 5090 build, looks like I should've waited and gotten the 1200W+ version with 2 ports

[hot bough]

I strongly doubt the 5090 will need 2x600W cables. Only card that might have it would be a HoF model but those are meant for extreme overclocking and world records (using LN2 or some other exotic form).

Some models might have 2x600 ports for extra security / redundancy but that doesn't mean it will pull 1200 watts.

[little slate]

reason why I'm worried is that my PSU only has 1 port

someone did point out that it can also pull 75W from the motherboard, so at least there's some headroom to not need another cable

[livid idol]

Depending on the stance each AIB takes on the 12V-2x6 standard we might see some models with dual plugs. They'll definitely still come with adapters.

(a couple brands might want to reduce RMAs from melting)

[little slate]

wonder if there is any chance of them adding a normal PCI port for the extra power instead of another 600W

[livid idol]

I doubt it but who knows really

[hot bough]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-star-wars-gif-4723491180103301225

[naive bane]

Any rumors of when the 5090ti is coming?

[livid idol]

We're still at the "if it's coming" part of the rumors, forget the "when"

[fluid aurora]

Idk about it's comparative performance to other fans, but I believe it does perform well (although if you see to the contrary lmk cause I'm buying these for my new 5090/9950X3D build). Lian Li SL INF fans. I'm getting 6 reverse 140mm and 1 non reverse 120mm

[fading glacier]

5070 at the level of a 4090.... yeah they will be scalped to hell and back

i suspect the 5070 to be scalped at least to 1k

[echo shuttle]

rtx5070ti or 7900xt

[odd siren]

https://tenor.com/view/8ball-bart-simpson-shaking-shake-magic-ball-gif-17725278

[livid idol]

It's "equivalent to the 4090" when it's rendering 3 AI frames for every real one

[echo shuttle]

do u think i should buy the new rtx 5070ti or amd 7900xt

[odd siren]

See above lad^

We couldn't really tell at all rn

One thing is for sure is all parts including the 5070ti will get more expensive after January 20 due to tariffs

If you were to ask me, whatever it is you buy, do it before January 20th and you'll avoid any massive price hikes

It could be a good new card, on paper it seems very unclear

But you'll be risking paying more buying later instead of now

[craggy pier]

id play it safe and grab the xt personally

plus that means getting to enjoy your product a bit earlier

[odd siren]

I lean this way too rn

But you never know what could happen

9070XT might be a great card too

Who's to say about the new gen yet tho

We don't actually know speeds yet

[livid idol]

No idea until we see performance numbers. Real ones. From third parties.

[misty lake]

Phanteks

[echo shuttle]

will that be before the cards drop for everyone?

[livid idol]

We usually get reviews the day before launch, so January 29 for the 5090 and 5080, tbd for the others.

[echo shuttle]

ok ty

[fresh sun]

XFX 6000 series GPUs are fine right?

[sacred crow]

When will AMD actually announce there GPU series? Do you guys think they will just have a separate standalone announcement?

[livid idol]

https://tenor.com/view/8ball-bart-simpson-shaking-shake-magic-ball-gif-17725278

[odd siren]

They'll announce once they're sure of what nvidia is up to

They always do things this way

When that is? See gif above lol

[odd siren]

Yes

High end is a little noisy but they're perfectly fine

[fresh sun]

alright

[raven wharf]

Yes

I have their top of the stack 6950 XT, its a hot card so it runs loud, but the build quality and the look of the card is really really good imo

[fresh sun]

Im looking to buy a Swift 319 6800XT Core

[raven wharf]

2nd hand market or new?

[fresh sun]

2nd hand from a friend

[raven wharf]

how much are they asking

[fresh sun]

280 with shipping

[raven wharf]

That is a hard price to beat, especially if its in good shape, as long as they are a trusted friend and the card for sure has no issues, no reason not to go for it imo

are you building a system or just upgrading your current?

[fresh sun]

it was bought on 04/06/23, hes still using it (about to buy an upgrade) and has not refused to do anything ive asked him to do

under warrenty but since its international that doesnt mean much

[fresh sun]

upgrading from a 1060 3gb

[raven wharf]

oh wow thats a big upgrade

I went from a RX 570 to a 6700XT, then 6950XT

[fresh sun]

did the same with my cpu too

1300x to 5600X

[raven wharf]

Yeah that should be a solid system with that cpu then

just make sure your PSU can handle the extra power from the 6800XT

[fresh sun]

yeah 650w should be able too

[livid idol]

That'll be about a 4x increase in fps for you potentially, barring other factors

[fresh sun]

he actually uses the same cpu

[fresh sun]

the 5600x fixed all my stuttering issues

and added a lot of fps

except for 1 game

cant wait for the rest of the fpses

[fresh sun]

hes getting a cheeky 60fps in rd2 maxed

[livid idol]

It's a pretty similar move to what I ended up with.
1060 3GB to 2070? 2x fps
2070 to 3080? 2x again

All with a 5800X

So I'd expect similar results for you

[raven wharf]

FalCie what do you think of 50 series i dont think i saw you talking last night

[livid idol]

Mostly boring but at least the msrp isn't higher

[odd siren]

Ai ai ai ai ai ai ai
Thanks steve

[raven wharf]

do you like my jacket

[odd siren]

Fr

He got the path traced jacket

[raven wharf]

someone here i couldnt remember who it was

in general when we were watching someone said "i cant wait for the reveal that his jacket was ai designed"

[fresh sun]

its actually about only a 20% pure perf improvement

[odd siren]

I said that lol

[raven wharf]

thought it was funny

[livid idol]

At best

[livid idol]

Hard to tell with them cherry picking games and using dlss 4 to generate 3 frames per frame

[odd siren]

☠️

I wasn't far off, turns out they ray traced it instead

[odd siren]

Bit more to it than that btw

[fresh sun]

for the 5090 to 4090 atleast

[odd siren]

RT has a huge jump, raster small across all but the 5090

[fresh sun]

cyberpunk was 26 fps vs 20fps 4k RT on

[odd siren]

We don't know what the total boost is tho

Can't base it off 1 nvidia video

I know which one that is

[livid idol]

At a frame rate that low it's hard to call any improvement good

[odd siren]

The rt improvement on paper looks enormous

[obtuse remnant]

Hi does anyone have a 40s Series card?

[livid idol]

Several of us do, why do you ask?

[obtuse remnant]

I am trying to figure out the dimensions of this metal I/O bracket

[livid idol]

What model

[obtuse remnant]

unfortantly it wont let me post images here

[odd siren]

I need to double down on what I'm saying here too, those two comparisons aren't like for like either. Different cpus

We won't know until reviews

[obtuse remnant]

I am thinking about like any double slot card

[fresh sun]

yeah that for sure

[obtuse remnant]

I would assume they are all the same right? unless its like a single slot or triple slot

[livid idol]

There are no single slots

[odd siren]

The io covers are all standard

[obtuse remnant]

Ah I see is there anywhere where I can show you what im working with like the images so you can get a better understanding

[odd siren]

If you're not afraid of a lost warranty, you can remove them

They unscrew off the gpu

Or, you can buy one online

[livid idol]

You can DM the pics to me and I'll see what's up

[obtuse remnant]

Ah I see, I am building a 3D application tool, that lets user build PCs with 3D and I am having trouble with some clipping with the models and cant figure out if its bc of Specs for cases, mobos, or gpus trying to get to the bottom of it

[obtuse remnant]

Alrighty thanks

[odd siren]

Ah

Well pcie slot brackets are all standard sizes

[obtuse remnant]

this is the website if you wanna mess around with it https://buildcores.com/

[odd siren]

Be it 1 2 or 3 slot

[obtuse remnant]

Yeah thats what I was thinking too but then it must be cases or mobos

[odd siren]

Mmmm

Cases can have misplaced standoffs?

That can make things fit poorly

Like they only need to be out by like 1 or 2 mm

Very small error of tolerance

Then the gpu won't slot

Or the mobo won't screw in

[obtuse remnant]

Introducing SFF cases to the website is gonna be rough lol

[odd siren]

Etc

Lol

[obtuse remnant]

Yeah it tough trying to map this out without having the parts on hand

[odd siren]

SFF cases are a handful for sure

Pc build sim 2 might be worth looking at

[fresh sun]

this is really impressive brother keep the work up

[obtuse remnant]

Thank you thank you

[obtuse remnant]

Yeah fr

[obtuse remnant]

Its been hard but we want to grow the parts list but so many parts lol

[fresh sun]

yeah fairs

[hot bough]

I went from a I think it was a GTX 720M (laptop) to a 3070.

[keen nacelle]

Gt 1030 to 3060 ti for me

(To 6800xt back to 3060 ti to 2080 ti)

[final dock]

Maybe LTT , get everyone to unite

[lone tartan]

Any one else have issues running games with a laptop 2080 after recent driver updates? Ive tried just about everything. Clean installing recent driver, going back to previous editions, even completely wiping the games its not working with and reinstalling.

[forest oasis]

what kinda issues

[lone tartan]

The game loads to main screen but i cannot get into the actual game. honestly It might not even be my gpu but it happened right after i updated the driver

[odd siren]

?ddu

[neat venture]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[odd siren]

^Try this

[lone tartan]

thank you

[raven wharf]

My prediction is that RDNA 4 is cooked

Like I cannot fathom that corporate meeting where they all sat down and were like

[odd siren]

I am inclined to agree rn

[raven wharf]

Let’s announce nothing and change the name

Like

I DONT

idk

Whoever is in charge of the Ryzen department

Gotta go Nextdoor

To the Radeon side

[odd siren]

They will never announce the price before nvidia

[raven wharf]

And get their stuff together

[odd siren]

Never ever

They've never done it first

[odd siren]

Don't dodge

[raven wharf]

Okay boo hoo it’s 2025

They gotta get the jump

If they ever wanna get the marketshare they claim they want to have

[raven wharf]

sorry fixed

8800 XT with 16gbs of vram with like 7900 XT performance with better RT and FRS4 at like 500-600 dollars would of sold like hotcakes

[odd siren]

I'm predicting a 500-ish price tag

Reason is that they weren't going to let nvidia lead on price

They wanted that number public

[raven wharf]

wdym lead on price

[odd siren]

Nvidia announced prices first