graphics-cards

[odd siren]

$70

If it was a better 650 like an rmx I'd say hell yeah just don't run higher power limits

But cxm is a bit underwhelming here imo

[sharp trellis]

Could you check my local bb?

[odd siren]

You can likely flip the cxm for a few dollars back tho

Hm

[sharp trellis]

before i have to order online

[odd siren]

Alr

[sharp trellis]

21740 zipcode for bb

[odd siren]

This is the next closest thing

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zF4Zxr/msi-mag-a850gl-pcie5-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mag-a850gl-pcie5

Best buy wise

[sharp trellis]

hell yeah i got one

in stock

theres 750w (oh nvrm its sold out haha)

but i am gonna get 850w for just peace of mind

[odd siren]

850w will be good

She can fit a few upgrades into that with a 6900xt

Then you can flip the cxm

The MSI units are quite good, this is like, slightly better than RMe quality

[sharp trellis]

My dumb ass did not read carefully, its in other store not my local BB

[odd siren]

Ah but you can order it for local pickup ye?

[sharp trellis]

yeah but 39 miles lol

[odd siren]

Oh I thought they'd just transfer it to your nearest one

[sharp trellis]

Hm.

[odd siren]

That's usually like a day or two waiting

[sharp trellis]

Shipping is Dec 3

[odd siren]

That's only 3 days away

[sharp trellis]

You're right I didnt realize.

[odd siren]

Yeah so Friday Saturday Sunday Monday haha

2 business days

[odd siren]

It's all good

[sharp trellis]

I've completely forgotten about her psu

Thanks for bringing it to my attention

[odd siren]

That's all good mate

I've done these things a thousand million times

So I often remember these before the crazy starts

[sharp trellis]

Good thing im buying before Tariffs kicks in

I am content with my pc

[odd siren]

Ah I'm doing that too rn

Shopping for a couple more things before I tighten the belt

[sharp trellis]

Probs sell my 360mm aSSus cooler to a decent 8th gen astestek pump or maybe go back to Liquid 3/2 Freezer

[odd siren]

Tariffs gonna send everything wild

[odd siren]

Thermalright has some amazing stuff for sub 60

Or IDcooling fx360 pro

360 is a lot for 5600x tho

[sharp trellis]

Oh its for me

i have a 5800x3d

[odd siren]

Ah

Ok fair enough

Those suggestions apply well then

Frozen edge/fx360 would be my go to

Or if you like rgb, aqua elite v3

[sharp trellis]

Making a order on the MSI MAG 850gl

[odd siren]

Nice

[sharp trellis]

Thanks Felix!

[odd siren]

No worries

[lofty hornet]

I just picked up an asrock phantom 7900xt. I am little concerned that i do not have the right psu cables for it.

[odd siren]

3x 6+2 pcie cables

If your psu is particularly good, you can use one of them as 2 of the plugs (daisy chain)

So only 2 cables

[lofty hornet]

i have a corsair rm750

[odd siren]

Not all psus that can do this, should do this though

Corsair do you know what kind

Ah ok

Yep that'll work

Which cpu just to check

[lofty hornet]

5800x32

[odd siren]

Yeah you'll be fine

Preferably use 3 separate pcie cables in the box, but you can use 2 just fine

All 3 plugs filled though

[lofty hornet]

so i used 2 different cables for what i have currentlky

gigabite aorus 6750

[odd siren]

Ye

You'll have enough to plug in

[lofty hornet]

Does that look right lol

[odd siren]

Your cables are rated 16AWG with 16 or 18AWG daisy chain plugs

Ye

[lofty hornet]

ok good

[odd siren]

When the XT turns up you can just plug it in whichever way you think will fit

The psu and cables are good

Nothing to worry about

[lofty hornet]

any suggestions on a gpu riser cable/adapter

[odd siren]

You want a vertical mount?

[lofty hornet]

yes, eventually

[odd siren]

Cooler master V3 universal mount is solid

Comes in white too

If you also want extensions, EZDIY-FAB, Asiahorse, Cablemod (Expensive), Antec, all decent

Only thing with EZDIY-FAB is the combs feel a little cheap but otherwise really good cables

My favourite combo for feel and look rn is those with custom Etsy metal combs, 16awg size

Really vibrant combination

Cablemod also do full replacements for your psu and are cheaper than Corsair but better

But I'd lean away from that unless you specifically want to do small form factor

[lofty hornet]

its a regular atx form factor

[odd siren]

Food for thought anyway, since you want to up the aesthetics game

Ye I see from here

All good

[lofty hornet]

Does 75$ for this sound right

i have no clure ehat they run for

[odd siren]

$45

Keep looking for a better price

USD yeah?

[lofty hornet]

how good are the asiahorse argb cables

oh thats for the MOBO

[odd siren]

The rgb cable stuff I couldn't tell ya

I've dabbled here and there with some, but I normally use sleeved in builds

Never really liked the feeling and look of strimmers

If asiahorse has strimmer type cables though they'll be better than the lian li stuff

Just beware you'll need lots of argb plugs for that stuff

Better than using L connect tho imo

[lofty hornet]

oh thats right

i proably do not have my current argb plugged in correctly

to be honest lmao

[odd siren]

You'll need a controller I think if you want argb cables

Cooler master has a really nice one but the name is stupid af

[lofty hornet]

i bought a corsair 3500x to migrate my current setup into

[odd siren]

Cooler master master masterfan masterhub argb master and fan master hub

[lofty hornet]

lol im actually going from a CM tds 500

[odd siren]

Have you opened it up yet

[lofty hornet]

no

[odd siren]

Ok

Not trying to panic you

[lofty hornet]

super panicked jk

[odd siren]

Corsair won the worst case awards this year for that lineup of cases

Poor quality, poor design choices

[lofty hornet]

ohhh

eh no biggie

i can get it returned

eventually

[odd siren]

If you want a good fish tank I can give you some better suggestions

[lofty hornet]

im ready

[odd siren]

Let's see...

ATX or mATX mobo?

[lofty hornet]

atx

[odd siren]

Alr

Need a couple minutes

@lofty hornet Do you mind if the back section is underneath instead?

Similar look just taller instead of wide

[lofty hornet]

no not all

im open to anything

[odd siren]

Interesting

Most of the normal picks have shifted

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nhbRsY/montech-xr-atx-mid-tower-case-xr-w
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PRjRsY/montech-king-65-pro-atx-mid-tower-case-king-65-pro-w
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gY26Mp/phanteks-nv5-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-nv523tg_dmw01
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RtFmP6/phanteks-xt-view-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-xt523v1-dwt01
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RtFmP6/phanteks-xt-view-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-xt523v1-dwt01

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/y7FmP6/thermaltake-view-270-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-1y7-00mewn-00

More budget friendly:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ysWzK8/montech-air-1000-premium-atx-mid-tower-case-air-1000-premium-white

[lofty hornet]

the montech 1000 looks nice

[odd siren]

The montech's all come with fan and rgb controllers iirc

Lemme just check if that one also has a built in controller

A sec

Yes it does

And velcro??

Damn

That's actually a great pick

[lofty hornet]

hmmm, since i am more than likely going to return the 3500x case. What are your thoughts on an open air case

[odd siren]

A back end like this for 62 is a banger

[odd siren]

Like open chassis?

[lofty hornet]

yes

thats what i meant

[odd siren]

They're not common so very expensive

Full mesh is cheaper

[lofty hornet]

https://www.coolermaster.com/en-us/products/masterframe-700/

[odd siren]

It's also a lot of cleaning

[lofty hornet]

something like this

ahhhh

I didnt think about that

[odd siren]

Yeah a lot of cleaning

Lol

[lofty hornet]

i was going to mount it on my wall

which, is probably the best option for me

[odd siren]

They can be very good but yeah, it's gonna gather dust quite fast

[lofty hornet]

......kids

[odd siren]

Fair enough

I haven't looked at open cases in a bit gimme a moment

[lofty hornet]

I will probably end up building a shelf that i have screwed into a stud so it wont fall

[odd siren]

I'll see if I can find cheaper

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/r6DzK8/thermaltake-core-p3-snow-edition-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-1g4-00m6wn-05

[lofty hornet]

and ill have the case somehow braced so it doesnt come tumbling down

[odd siren]

I can understand buying more for kids though

[lofty hornet]

ohhhhh i have seen that on Techsource

[odd siren]

Yeah stud mounted you should be more or less fine

The black version of that is 97

[lofty hornet]

yeah i think i might do that one

[odd siren]

Cheaper same thing

[lofty hornet]

plus i bring my dogs in during the winter

[odd siren]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nqcG3C/thermaltake-core-p3-tg-pro-snow-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-1g4-00m6wn-09

Lemme just check a few more places

Yeah I figured as much but Thermaltake is basically the only brand that does this kind of case en masse

It's a bit of a unique niche but understandable, I suggest the last one I linked

You will also only need a riser cable

So for that, ez-diyfab gen 4 riser is fine

Or if you want a really nice foldable one, LINKUP! make really durable risers

Expensive as heck though

But they do hold up

[lofty hornet]

ok let me find these items real quick and get them put into a parts list

[odd siren]

Np

[lofty hornet]

Can you find this on amazon

or is it a specific website

i think i found it on amazon

[odd siren]

They're an amazon seller so ye

[lofty hornet]

@odd siren Thank you for the help!

[odd siren]

No worries man

Good luck with the pc

[pseudo bobcat]

Is it worth the extra money to get something manufacturer refurbished over used on a site like eBay?

[keen nacelle]

Depends on the product and price diff

[pseudo bobcat]

Its a GPU. The price difference is somewhere between $15 and $150.

I know that's a wide and inconclusive range but unfortunately I don't know how else to put it

Right I probably should have put specifics after bacca answered

Its a 3090. Right now the only used models are minimum price is $650, when it refurb by zotac directly for $666, both options are free shipping

The caveat is that the eBay model is overheating and needs new pads and paste

But sometimes, some people put 3090s for as low as $600 or even $550 once

[keen nacelle]

Wait wat

$16 price diff?

Should be a no brainer unless I'm missing smthn

[pseudo bobcat]

Well right now prices are crap. These are all the "used" options. All more than the devilish price zotac put

[keen nacelle]

You able to use hardwareswap?

[pseudo bobcat]

Its only when adding "for parts" cards where prices start to get more competitive. The cheapest still working for parts card is what I was referencing for the $650 price

I don't see why I can't, but so far the 3090s there but prices aren't much better unless you live local

[ivory herald]

Solid $200 over a 3080 Ti, oof.

[lofty hornet]

Can you run two different Gpu's in a build if you have the right size PSU

[keen nacelle]

Yes but it likely won't give the result youre expecting

Unless you're doing some specific workstation tasks it won't improve performance. Often times it'll do the opposite

[forest oasis]

you can also use multiple PSUs if 1 psu isnt enough

though be aware of the total power draw from the wall because if you have like multiple high end gpus like 4090's, that may overload the circuit

sli/nvlink/crossfire for gaming is dead though; even before its death barely any games supported it and were often mediocre at best

[south halo]

anyone know a good website to compare gpus

I have a 970, but im just browsing marketplace cuz Im considering upgrading from a 970 and I see someone selling a 5600XT for 80$, but idk how much better or worse gpu A vs B would be

[keen nacelle]

Passmark gpu comparison is solid for a rough comparison

970 is about on par with a 1050 ti if i remember right, 5600xt somewhere around a 1070

Id look for a 5700/xt 1080/ti, 2060 super+, 6600/xt, anything along those lines

I've seen 1080s and 5700s in the $80-100ish range

[south halo]

whats the difference between for example a 5700 vs 5700xt

like the xt is better but whats the actual difference in the drives

[forest oasis]

i think it's just better binning?

[south halo]

what about perforamnce difference

and price difference

[lofty hornet]

Thank you! I would probably just use it for the individual monitors tha owulkd be connected to them

[forest oasis]

passmark says like pretty much 10% better average

[south halo]

I had seen a 5700 listed for 180, and a 2060 super for 220, all cad, are those good prices or na

and now a 5600 XT 6gb for 100

all used

[south halo]

I feel I wouldnt even feel the difference

[forest oasis]

probably not by much at least

[keen nacelle]

How many monitors do you need to run?

[keen nacelle]

Ohh cad

That 5600xt is a fantastic price, im not sure how the others are priced compared to average prices in Canada

[lofty hornet]

@keen nacelle I have 3 at the moment

I would run my incoming 7900xt on my corsair 1440 and the 6750 would run the two secondary monitors that are 1080p

i am looking to eventually upgrade all my monitors to 1440

the cpu is a 5800x3d, if that bit of info is needed

[keen nacelle]

No point unless you're running demanding tasks on all three

Side monitors displaying things like Spotify, discord, stream labs and similar things will not put strain on your gpu

[lofty hornet]

I do at times run civ 6 and youtube on a serperate monitor

[keen nacelle]

YouTube will not put noticeable strain on your gpu

The extra heat from a second gpu would probably affect performance more lmao

[livid idol]

3 monitors is totally doable on one GPU. If you're worried about GPU load then disable GPU acceleration in your browser.

Also if you have a CPU with an iGPU built in you can just use that for the other monitors

[lofty hornet]

oh

I did not know htat

[livid idol]

The 5800X3D does not have this but it's something to think about for the future when you upgrade the CPU

[lofty hornet]

i do plan on upgrading to am5 next year

[echo shuttle]

PowerColor Hellhound Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card
and
POWERCOLOR Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Hellhound Graphics Card
is tere a big difference between these two graphics card because one is 600 is 850

[odd siren]

The 600 one is better value

XTX is only ~16% better, but the price difference is some 40% higher

XT is better

[echo shuttle]

ohh okay thank you

[echo shuttle]

if u dont mind can u send me a 240 hz monitor 27 inch idk if i want curved or straight

[odd siren]

https://www.amazon.com/KTC-OLED-Monitor-Built-DisplayPort1-4/dp/B0CRDRL92Z/

Use your price difference to the XTX on this. It's worth it

OLED 240hz >>>>> Any IPS/VA under 540HZ

Way way better picture clarity and colour as well

Infinite contrast

It's just head and shoulders above anything else rn

[echo shuttle]

im not us

[odd siren]

West coast name but not us

?

[echo shuttle]

its a song

[odd siren]

It's also the slang for the western edge of usa

Lol

[echo shuttle]

oh

[odd siren]

Well where U at then

💀

I need a country

[echo shuttle]

london

[odd siren]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/7LzXsY/aoc-agon-pro-ag276qzd2-267-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-ag276qzd2

Same reasons but this one's a little better

[echo shuttle]

tytyy

[odd siren]

Np

[harsh sandal]

This is my one

[edgy pewter]

@odd siren Sorry for pinging, but what Sites are better than ubm? (Benchmarking)

bruh, didn't mean to write that in here, but I hope that was okay

I don't wanna spark heat about that, I just simply need a simple answer with lie 1 or 2 sites

I just want that if I make my own PC that I don't read Biased stuff

[livid idol]

For comparisons, passmark is good enough. For running a benchmark that tells you if you're running good, 3dmark.

There's a demo of 3dmark on steam

[edgy pewter]

Ye

Okay, Because someone got my heart pumping real good by always saying that UBM is a "Good Resource". I straight sent some messages of this server and he said "Opinion"

I... Man, that cope

Anyways. Thanks for telling

[livid idol]

UBM is comically bad sometimes

[edgy pewter]

I don't even use it

[livid idol]

According to them, the i3 8100 is better than the 10900K due to memory latency.

[edgy pewter]

But I'm pretty sure that it is Marginal, Right?

[livid idol]

The memory latency doesn't matter as much as ubm wants you to think. They only changed their ranking system to heavily favor that because AMD was kicking Intel's butt in every other metric.

[edgy pewter]

I lately have been thinking if I Maybe use AMD parts (except GPU) on the next big upgrade

Maybe going to #general-chat is a good idea

[livid idol]

I'm going back to bed anyway

[edgy pewter]

Okay, Sleep well

[random walrus]

AMD GPUs are the value pick rn, and will likely stay that way unless nvidia drops pricing on the 50 series

[edgy pewter]

Guess why I don’t go for amd gpu

[random walrus]

Do you need cuda cores for AI?

or better raytracing perf i guess

Other than those things, amd cards are better raster perf per dollar

oh or Nvidium for minecraft i guess

[torn meteor]

anyone know where i can get a asus tuff 4080 super oc edition thats in stock lol

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gvcgXL/msi-ventus-3x-oc-geforce-rtx-4080-super-16-gb-video-card-rtx-4080-super-16g-ventus-3x-oc

[odd siren]

Is fine. Ye as Fal said 3dmark results is what I use and compare rough averages, time spy extreme is very reliable

[south halo]

Is there any downside going from nvidia to amd

Like ive heard ppl say stuff about dlss and ray tracing (ngl not sure what either of those really mean, all ik is ray tracing is used in minecraft shaders?)

the only thing I could think of that id be worried about is the software cuz I record using nvidia geforce, but ppl say that amds software is really good

The reason I ask is cuz I saw a 150$ 6700 XT on marketplace, my current gpu is a 970, so in anycase an upgrade from that to anything will be huge

[odd siren]

Provided that is a working gpu there, that's an amazing upgrade

But you should be sure of that first

[odd siren]

Do you just play games?

[south halo]

How can I be sure of it anyways, or is it just asking the guy to show it to me working in a pc first before buying

[odd siren]

That

[south halo]

I mean I use my pc for games ye but also
little bit of editing, nothing crazy
coding, hw etc
general use

so if it can play games then it can do everything else probably

[odd siren]

Which programs do you use for the other stuff?

Cos it will be essentially that, plays games well, and capable of the other stuff

But I wanna check in case blender is in there

[south halo]

davinci resolve for editing

coding is bit of everything, visual studio, different ides, etc

[south halo]

was considering playing around with blender for fun lol

[odd siren]

Oh yeah Radeon is a huge boost here

[odd siren]

It works with blender just no where near as fast as nvidia

So what you do rn, is in favour of a 6700xt imo

I wouldn't worry about driver business, that's old news, hasn't been that way for years now

Ray tracing is something only 1 in 10 care about

To put it in a nutshell

Do you like rain puddles looking super accurate for an extra 20% money?

And less fps?

Then RT iz 4 u

💀

DLSS can be substituted completely by both Intel and AMD GPUs so that's a non-point

I'd go the way of a 6700XT personally, sounds like a good upgrade

[south halo]

with the new release of nvidias 5000 series or whatever do you think itd be good to wait or na

in any case I wouldnt want to go anything too crazy

I dont need all that

[odd siren]

Nah no point waiting

Reason why I say is this

Right before next gen both sides push massive sales to move stock

Make those who are trying to wait make the jump

It's in the company interests to do so

But what usually happens is the aggressive pricing makes the buying genuinely worth it? So next gen becomes invalid for most of those people 💀

Great example of this would be those who jumped on $400 3080s years ago with evga

Or the $550 6950XT

2 years ago

Only couple weeks ago was that sale finally beat

6700XT at $270 was a year ago

3060 Ti also at $270 was good

So you tell me 6700XT for $150 and you can prove it works? I'm all in agreement with you. Sounds almost too good to be true tbh

Just sounds like a good buy as long as they're a genuine seller and they prove it works

Do your due diligence to check it all out and make sure it's just a guy after a quick sale and not a scam, I support the idea

[south halo]

tbh I was thinking the same thing

he says in the ad he used it for 2 months

he put the ad up 8 days ago, so im gonna msg him now but if its a true deal then itll prob have been bought

[odd siren]

Yeah it'll be down to you to really sus it out, if you can get pictures that proves it's him and it's real then it could be a good grab

Ah 8 days ago is likely gone

There's always another one anyway

[south halo]

ye I just gotta keep my eye out

theres a 2060 super for 220 I think it was

[odd siren]

[south halo]

a 5600 xt for 100

[odd siren]

That's worse

[odd siren]

That's considerable

[south halo]

I was looking at that graph

and it says the 5600 XT that was used in the test was overclocked, what speed would it be at then

[odd siren]

I'd rank one similar to a 5700 almost

Cos the reason is that architecture was just plain really good

And you could mess with it to make it run harder

Bios flashing was common

So even if OC'd I'd still agree with it

Good reference graph btw

It's very accurate

[odd siren]

@livid idol can we pin this if we aren't getting more updates to that excel sheet

[south halo]

Honored to be forever pinned in this chat if it gets pinned

[odd siren]

Lmao I've known about that graph for a long time

[south halo]

def not mine, something tells me a guy called Tom made it

[livid idol]

There's a couple issues I have with Tom's and their testing but that's a decent rough guide

[livid idol]

Tom's Hardware is made up of dozens of writers so odds are it's not

[odd siren]

Tom doesn't really write much anymore ngl

It's his hardware though

[forest oasis]

What if Tom's hardware only hired toms

[odd siren]

That's what the name reads, right?

[forest oasis]

I think Tom is a common enough name to have an entire writing team of Toms

Entire editing team of jerry's

[odd siren]

"Meet our new writer, Steven"

[Applause]

[forest oasis]

The Tom and Jerry hardware editorial team

[odd siren]

"As our new junior writer we start with your name ceremony"

"Welcome to the team, Tom."

They start drawing demon circles

Bring in a dead chicken

Like "Wtf is going on??"

Put on dark cloaks and wielding upside down crosses

[random walrus]

Might be good to pin 1440p ultra version of that chart as well

[forest oasis]

[odd siren]

@livid idol swap to this if you can

[random walrus]

oh beat me to it

mine's higher res 👿

[odd siren]

Lmao

Btw @forest oasis

[forest oasis]

🥫

[odd siren]

It was written by Jarred

Aka tom

[forest oasis]

They jarred tom

Tom in a jar

🫙

[odd siren]

Tom and Jarry

🫙

[plush acorn]

do not the tom

[edgy pewter]

Okay, thanks 👍

[edgy pewter]

I need cuda for some loads

Sorry for the late response

[edgy pewter]

Huh???

[plush acorn]

do not the tom

[hot bough]

Any news as of late on the GPU market?

[random walrus]

Arc battlemage B570 and B580 specs are out

B580 is somewhere between a 4060 and 3060ti, maybe 6700-ish

10% faster than 4060 according to Intels benchmarks

MSRP $250

[hot bough]

That's pretty good for for $250.

[random walrus]

Yup, assuming real benchmarks show similar perf

[lost sierra]

Hello all, I have three questions about AMD cards.

Is an XFX SPEEDSTER MERC310 AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT for about $632 USD a good deal?

Is there any reason to go up to an XTX card? They look to be $200 more on average.

Should I just wait for 8000 series cards to hit the market in the hopes of finding better prices on 7000 series?

[craggy pier]

632 is a great deal

Xtx deal is lower than it has been but its technically less price to perf value compared to the xt, still a great card nonetheless and much better value than nvidia's alternatives

[lost sierra]

How much better is the XTX? They seem to be in the $800-900 range?

[craggy pier]

I believe theres about a 10-15% performance difference for like 30% higher price

Xt is one of the best value on the market for high perf rn

[lost sierra]

Gotcha. Do you expect any significant price drops when 8000 series cards come out that would justify waiting, or should I just go for it?

[craggy pier]

Actually these are the highest price drops for the series youll probably see for a while, amd typically puts great prices out to remove stock right before the next series launches

Plus if you live in america tariffs are gonna be rough

If you can buy now i would absolutely recommend sooner than later

[lost sierra]

Dully noted, thank you.

[craggy pier]

np

[raven wharf]

something ive never realized even with seeing that chart numerous times b4 is how bad the 6500xt is

[random walrus]

Past few generations have seen the lowest tier cards be really bad. The companies know that a lot of people will go for the cheapest new card and that if they make that model bad then those people will need to upgrade sooner

[keen nacelle]

Companies dgaf about the lower class, especially tech companies

They want their low end to be bad value so people spend more for good value

[random walrus]

Back in the day a larger proportion of PC buyers were more savvy and would look at value, so we got better lowend value

[keen nacelle]

3060 ti at $400 was so nice

And then they released the 3060 12gb a whole $70 cheaper for a 30% drop in perf

[random walrus]

And people ATE it up

[keen nacelle]

4060 ti should've been 3080 10gb perf for 400 if last gen pricing carried over

[random walrus]

1050Ti was an actually capable card that was MSRP $140, about $185 today

[keen nacelle]

I'm really hoping 8000 series from amd and intel arc fixes the gpu market

[random walrus]

Rx 6600/6650xt were great when they were dipping down to 180ish but last I checked they were up to like 220 230-240

[keen nacelle]

Yeah, stock just dried up faster than I liked

If 6600xt or 6650xt stayed around $200-220 that'd be solid value compared to a $250-260 7600

But at only $60 less the 6600 is too big a perf drop imo

[edgy pewter]

I think I have not heard of that stuff this often

[plush acorn]

do not the tom

[raven wharf]

very good deal imo, i have a 6950XT from XFX i got for $650 at the start of the year

XFX makes solid cards and the 7900XT was originally over 900$, unless you play games and do tasks that you think really justify a bump to the XTX, the regular XT will do probably whatever you want it to

dont have a fomo about the 8000 series, there will always be the next thing that comes along, amd has been known to mess up their pricing when a new gen launches, then will drop prices after accordingly, take the 7900 XT when it first launched at $900

[gloomy lintel]

does anyone happen to know the minimum gpu needed to support 1440p 480hz?

[random walrus]

Something with displayport 2.1 I think

Which leaves you with just AMD Radeon 7000 GPUs as far as I know

I think Nvidia is still on dp 1.4

[gloomy lintel]

from what i’ve seen dp 1.4 works as long as dsc is on and all the newer gpus work with it

but in just trying to figure out why my 1080ti doesn’t work for it

[keen nacelle]

How many monitors are you running

[forest oasis]

real

[keen nacelle]

Not to mention unless you're playing esports and very non demanding games you will be nowhere near 480 fps

[gloomy lintel]

i only play competitive games and average around 600-700fps in most games i play

i do have another monitor running at 60hz but i’ve tried unplugging it but it didn’t change anything

[junior locust]

What CPU do you have?

[gloomy lintel]

9800x3d

[livid idol]

If you update the firmware on the GPU then it can support DSC, but only up to 240Hz since it's the oldest version of DSC.

[gloomy lintel]

so i assume all newer gpus will be able to support 480hz? im deciding between a 7700xt or going for higher end gpu like 4070ti

but i dont really play games that require an insane gpu

[random walrus]

Isn't dsc like compression

[forest oasis]

yes

[random walrus]

Id much rather play native 1440 at like 240 or 360 than compress to get 480

[forest oasis]

display stream compression if i remember the acronym correctly

iirc it's lossless

[random walrus]

Oh

Ok interesting

[gloomy lintel]

do yall think the 7700xt is a good gpu?

i can get it for $390 new

[forest oasis]

oh nvm it's not actually lossless

[livid idol]

Debatable, some people can tell

[forest oasis]

just practically lossless

[junior locust]

It's "lossless" at low compression rates

It becomes God awful at higher rates tho

Like anything over IIRC 30% compression rate is already bad
And anything over 60 is unusable

Also do note
Any images that have particularly strong artifacts (which would be DEFINITELY noticed and very obvious) are excluded from testing

So testing is kinda heavily biased in favor of compression

So DSC can claim "visually lossless"
But it's visually lossless*

*: It's visibly lossy but we lobbied the testing standards to favor us

[wicked hound]

Ive also heard many pains of multi monitor, VRR, DLAA, DSR, etc with DSC. Mostly from a while ago tho, could be fixed but Im not hopeful.

[livid idol]

That mostly depends on the quality of the VRR implementation monitor side, and DLAA/DSR is always buggy

[keen nacelle]

@gloomy lintel

[gloomy lintel]

yo

just bought 7700xt btw and installed it

[naive bane]

Noice, enjoy 😄

is it true that looking at a monitor running a game with 480hz is like looking thro a window?

[odd siren]

No

Looking at an OLED is like looking through a window

Idk how that somehow changed from Chinese whispers

240hz OLED is like looking through a window and matches the screen performance of a 480Hz+ IPS/TN

The colour performance and contrast is second to none, it looks like real life

480hz on the other hand just looks like a smooth IPS, no OLED benefits

And is hard to pick up on past 240hz anyway

[vital oriole]

oled is great

[forest oasis]

Colour accuracy + pixel density (for your viewing distance) makes the most difference

[gloomy lintel]

depends on the game

and lowk my gpu not powerful enough so i’m gonna return it and get a better one soon

should i get a 4070ti super, 7900 xtx, or 4080 super? i would straight up get a 4080 super at 1k usd but they’re so hard to find

[naive bane]

Only 5090ti super duper ultra bultra

[gloomy lintel]

at the price of my house i’m good

[livid idol]

XTX is the best out of that selection

[forest oasis]

honestly speaking, when i have (a) kid(s), i would probably make an igpu system for them, especially since igpus nowadays can run alot of lighter games
if they want a gpu, they can buy one themselves

[keen nacelle]

You can very likely find better performing gpus at the same or very similar price

1050 ti, 1650, 1660, 1060, 580, 480, etc

Id get a 5600g or 8500g/8600g for roblox over a 1030

[forest oasis]

you dont have to put too much thought into this, it's just a guy rambling lmao

just look at general chat

[forest oasis]

people who work with computers as their jobs

[hot bough]

People who mess with computers as a hobby. like me.

[south halo]

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-computer-components/vancouver/dying-geforce-rtx-3070-gpu/1708009955

You guys think thats fixable or na

From what I searched up online most ppl didnt fix it but would replace it instead

[livid idol]

Possibly VRAM issue, maybe core but less likely. Fixable? Sure. Easily fixed? Probably not.

[south halo]

Would be a fun side quest

might just msg him to see

I just saw just now an rx 6800 for 375 cad

[livid idol]

How's your micro soldering skills? Do you have a hot plate that gets up to 175C?

[south halo]

lol all I have is a soldering iron I bought on the last day before I quit from the hardware store I used to work at and a dream

[south halo]

what do you think of this deal, seems to me its good

[livid idol]

Not bad for cad

[forest oasis]

If you need to reflow solder on VRAM packages, you'll need a hot air station
Hot plate is slightly less needed technically, a toaster oven could also do this*

[livid idol]

Sure, if you like toxic chemicals being permanently in your toaster oven

Yeah the hot plate is theoretically optional but it saves you so much hassle

[forest oasis]

true

you can sometimes find working toaster ovens for free though

[random walrus]

Someone in my dorm a couple years back got a free toaster oven, just missing the door

tried to use it with a piece of cardboard as the door

[forest oasis]

LMFAO

That's crazy

[random walrus]

technically the ignition point is 451 *F and i don't think those ovens get that hot

but I believe it did smoke/smolder some

[forest oasis]

Fahrenheit?

[random walrus]

yes

[forest oasis]

Alot of toaster ovens can get to 425-450f

[random walrus]

dang

maybe the poor seal and insulation of a piece of cardboard saved them

[forest oasis]

You are edging that flash point

[solemn panther]

Oh my god....

There's no Vram left 😭

[livid idol]

Yeah, you thought we were kidding when we said 12GB is the new minimum?

You're also using 323W if I'm reading that right

[solemn panther]

I am.

Very normal

[nocturne nest]

XFX 6650XT QUIK or ASUS dual 6600XT OC edition

Which is better*

[keen nacelle]

6650

any rx 7600 would be better

[nocturne nest]

thanks, i plan to upgrade to a 7900xt but im getting the 6600 through a trade soon so thought id ask till then

[raven wharf]

i'd reccommend an XFX card if/when you upgrade

XFX/Sapphire are the best Radeon cards imo

if not whatever is cheapest or looks the best for you

[livid idol]

Asrock makes good models too

Often some of the cheaper ones

[craggy pier]

XT will more than suffice as well

[solid glacier]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YJYD8Q I thinkthis the best i can do? i might switch the cpu to 7800x3d, finding a gpu rn is hard lol 1600$

[livid idol]

Is there a particular reason you want a XTX that's $200 more than other models

[solid glacier]

oh nah im gonna get the 4080 super meant to change that

my b

If i can find one

[solid glacier]

what do you think list wise?

[sterile parcel]

Any particular reason to go 4080 super? XTX is slightly better or equivalent if you exclude RT in the mix for gaming

And costs like $200-$300 less new

[solid glacier]

Xtx has microstutters iv had 3 of them and lol prefer a 4080 super

[hot bough]

@solid glacier, 4080 Super for $999.
https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-GeForce-WINDFORCE-Graphics-GV-N408SWF3V2-16GD/dp/B0CSK2GHR8/ref=sr_1_2?crid=26GPXBCRAJ9BC&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.q9Rq9O-QbG1sNA1_f791VCh86LoVRIyw76vi7gtksNuy-4ifVbqfcjJ1anlWecyuLn1bZK3wteXK5JgMR-1dP4_7-q670tGyAK9pnM3zNDR4oLzH75_eIhA3wBC5P_Rlh7r_-quHzRhRw7dVDzFv7fddnHt9FV0hos9CEK83qaUprolsEeRiqOR571lLjfm1KR38vJkoTtaRAKV36YME-5CFVV_RoWahro3kHG7rIqo.uZpy5_enek0Q9dqUo6I4JnlQKxzgiYOGNzUn5WDieXU&dib_tag=se&keywords=4080&qid=1734104643&sprefix=4080%2Caps%2C192&sr=8-2

[solid glacier]

Out of stock for me

[hot bough]

Rip they were in stock all day. They seem to refill the stock every day or two.

Keep your eyes peeled.

[solid glacier]

Thanks

[hot bough]

But yeah with the exception of the 4090 the prices of 4080 Supers are dropping.

[solid glacier]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006976/amd-ryzen-9-7950x3d,-msi-x670e-mag-tomahawk-wifi,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle

What do you think of this bundle?

[hot bough]

Solid kit. Be warned though, the 7950x3D is not for the kind of heart. You will want to learn how to use Process Lasso to tell certain apps which cores to use.

[solid glacier]

Bro

I Jsut got a 9800x3d

For 515$

That a good price?

They must of just restocked

I just gatta order ram, ssd and gpu if I find one in stock

[forest oasis]

MSRP is $479

[wind sable]

[solid glacier]

still no 4080 super in stock yet that isnt above 1200$

Frick idk what to do

do i spend 2300$ for a 4090 lol

[keen nacelle]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/MSI-Ventus-GeForce-RTX-4080-SUPER-16GB-GDDR6X-PCI-Express-4-0-Video-Card-RTX-4080-SUPER-16G-VENTUS-3X-OC/5301198249

[solid glacier]

out of stock for me sadly

[hot bough]

Dude, if you are going to spend that much on a GPU just wait for the 5090 otherwise you are wasting money.

@solid glacier https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-Graphics-IceStorm-Advanced-ZT-D40820D-10P/dp/B0CSBDFS55/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3VFIX8PA841Y9&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9._oiuEPk9npgKhWbgc474q5LPmeyMiVq4JrhIUPDVfa3hGxAOYnoGZbpBLDO2OQsRrt3A9x7wlUrItmHUJ0WzpfoOAB4xbzUEYZbWA8hv3TUautMnSwYU3EsMfI957VDaiDyxdHpDZWX5cEyGx8iGRffe2X4V38htzvL2FBgHOBN-VJJtL1vtwYExla8lVZ5ACfqSG9UiDaj6IfDo2hZm8-OlJIYAggY934RSetZOVbc.ZdLI-hsClIigavfWax2dmyI5go4hY5EzZcsJQJEPRtA&dib_tag=se&keywords=4080+super&qid=1734209467&sprefix=4080+super%2Caps%2C127&sr=8-2

4080 Super, $1000

[craggy pier]

Youre wasting money even if you wait for a 5090

[solid glacier]

Doesn’t arrive til January 23rd😭trying to find something that will come soon within 2 weeks

[hot bough]

For Christmas?

[hot bough]

Would you rather he spend $2300 for a 4090 or 5090?

[craggy pier]

Neither

Theyre both not worth the money unless you have stupid levels of disposable income or if you REALLY need a gpu of that size for professional use

Anywho 5090 is probably gonna be more towards the territory of 2700 dollars

Especially with tariffs going into effect

5080 will probably be better when the time comes

[hot bough]

I am betting around $1,900-$2,100 not counting for scalpers.

[odd siren]

$880 for an XTX pls

[keen nacelle]

better yet

[odd siren]

I could afford all 3, XTX still better

[keen nacelle]

$700 8800xt

but obv not in time for christmas lmao

[hot bough]

Honestly here is the verdict.

While I by no means recommend spending $1,600 let alone $2,000 plus for a 4090. If you have the cash to spend it and that's what makes you happy I won't stop it but be aware that it is not advisable financially.

If you don't need a Nvidia card go with what Bacca and Fluelix typically recommend.

[odd siren]

Only 4070 Super is worth buying even remotely out of what's left of 40 series

The ship sailed for any value prospect for 4090 once the price jumped up over 1700

[hot bough]

I get where they are coming from. The High holidays are here and they probably have been dreaming of having a top of the high end machine for a while so if they have the cash and recognize that it is not advisable financially I am not going to tryu and convince them otherwise.

[odd siren]

Sure

Though in my position, having owned these cards

[hot bough]

Like me with waiting for the 5090. I don't need it but I want it and recognize that financially it's not the best value.

[odd siren]

I don't see the prospect in spending almost 3x over an xtx

Even with the track record there

Just is plain not worth it

[hot bough]

Yeah I definitely get what you mean.

I wouldn't recommend a 4090 or even a 4080 to most of my friends unless they do serious professional work that requires it

[odd siren]

That's really the point ye

But it's going to a gamer

[hot bough]

I usually recommend mid-range AMD cards or lower end Nvidia like recently my friend got a 4070 TI for $700 cad.

[odd siren]

Lol

[hot bough]

Lmao yes.

[odd siren]

Even a 3090 or 3090Ti, better sense here imo

[hot bough]

those are what $1,000-1,200 nowadays?

[odd siren]

The 5090 WILL be scalped due to the scarce prospect of anything actually new on the forefront

[odd siren]

650

Frankly I just don't see much point to a 4090 at all, even a 5090

Theoretically the 5090 won't be 2x faster than an XTX

And for that matter 8800XT

It's going to definitely cost 2x more though

I've been debating actually selling my 4090 and just banking credits for a 5090 💀

[hot bough]

Aren't current estimates that the 5090 will be around 40% faster on avg compared to a 4090?

[hot bough]

I am betting a MSRP of around $1,799-1,899 with AIBs going up to $2,200.

This is not accounting for scalpers.

[odd siren]

Considering the raster of an XTX is roughly 15% off that of a 4090 at stock, a 40% increase isn't enough to even justify $1600 over $880

Numbers don't add up in favour of a 5090 at all

[hot bough]

I thought the XTX was around 30% slower?

[odd siren]

1800 is the modest guess, I wouldn't be surprised if it gets to 2000 msrp

[odd siren]

Overall it ties with a 4080 Super

[hot bough]

I've got a good feeling. Wish for the best, prepare for the worst.

[odd siren]

People forget that the XTX makes up for the loss of RT perf with pure raster

It's some 10% faster in raster over a 4080 super

[random walrus]

Unless you absolutely need all of the extra vram xx90 offers I don't see why you should buy it. Just get xx80 or AMD and then use the extra money for a sooner upgrade

especially when xx90 is likely going to be in short supply and possibly scalped

[odd siren]

Pretty much

[craggy pier]

isnt the 7900xt in a good place price wise right now or at least as of recent?

id rather grab that than a 4070 super

[odd siren]

I did say "remotely worth it"

Lol

Because yes there's a dozen options at that tier worth buying instead now

[craggy pier]

Fair enough lmao

[fluid aurora]

I've decided to wait for 5090 😦 I hate waiting tho

[forest oasis]

Patience is a virtue

[hot bough]

Welcome to the club.

[random dock]

Was busy playing Indiana jones the last few days

what are the overall thoughts and feelings on b580 like ?

[solid glacier]

So I got a 4080 super and 9800x3d should I get a 850w PSU or 1000w

My case also has a screen on it

[hot bough]

A good 850W will be fine. 1000W if you plan to upgrade down the line.

Corsair's RM E and RM X and HX E/HX I lineup are good if I recall.

[random walrus]

Considering price to performance it's great

[livid idol]

Everyone loves it since it's been so long since we had a $250 GPU that's worth getting. They sold out immediately.

[still tide]

Hype. I just wish it wasn't sold out

[solid glacier]

ordered these

just need a fast ssd off of newegg

[livid idol]

How fast are we talking? Gaming fast or 8k video editing fast?

And what size? 2TB like in the screenshot?

[solid glacier]

Gaming fast

2tb

Yea prefer 2tb

or i can get 2 1tb whatever is better for price-performance

My mobo does have 1 Heatsink

[livid idol]

https://www.newegg.com/team-group-2tb-mp44q-nvme-1-4/p/N82E16820985175

https://www.newegg.com/silicon-power-p34a60-2tb/p/N82E16820301429

MP44Q is a SN850X competitor, A60 is a good old standby recommendation for gamers

[hot bough]

SN850X has a competitor now?

[livid idol]

For a long time now

Like years

We have much, much faster drives now

[hot bough]

Seems I am very out of touch.

[keen nacelle]

There's gotta be at least two dozen gen 4 drives that are that tier of perf

Gen 5 exists now but very, very, very few people id actually recommend that to

[keen nacelle]

These are the ones I could think of
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RZPJMC

[cerulean rover]

at mininum all of these

[keen nacelle]

I wasn't sure on m482, that's good to know

[cerulean rover]

forgot to filter out the wonky controller on the p5 plus but yea

[hot bough]

ty

[hot bough]

What did the 4080 Super cost if you don't mind me asking? Wondering because I was going to recommend you this 4080 Super at $1K till I remembered seeing this comment.

https://www.amazon.com/PNY-Graphics-DisplayPort-Supports-Anti-Sag/dp/B0CS6XC69Y/ref=sr_1_2?crid=BP778O87OCQJ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.fbpPXfWByflabNUEtcB4R7YPoZ2SXRhH9a8PEqZsnxVL9vO5q0g0JusEK3kb_rzSy6F4D9333FhZym4YJgEeRY1znIXLlbo3MJJza9p8Tqp-vk_r2DaJqpj2q8SsuqrOjVeVBl2TbxyVyGb004kTDYgjpKExUYE53FascKizCpwQtImoIYGlEW4wDVhqcn2sGmuWJMh4JCiNtjL4sNojykwawo_nFJwYhdMh6pWZYO8.eGnqKHxlBFDabLsVTz65n-AKnBmnGw_VbrnBB5TDZyU&dib_tag=se&keywords=4080&qid=1734461129&sprefix=4080%2Caps%2C150&sr=8-2

[solid glacier]

1k

[solid glacier]

got it from a local best buy luckly for me xD

Does anyone know ifand where I can buy a new power cable/box for my monitor? My cord kinda got drenched in water.. my monitor is gigabyte m27q-x rev 1

[hot bough]

A friend of a friend is looking to buy a GPU. His budget is around 500 CAD. What are the current recommendations? He has a 13th gen I5. I do not the exact model he has.

[hot bough]

Nice, BestBuy is usually pretty solid about pricing and such.

[keen nacelle]

If he can spend $75 extra the 7700xt is worth it

[hot bough]

Yeah I was just thinking that

[frank dagger]

so how can i go about tuning my 3080Ti for the best stable preformance?

[keen nacelle]

Id download a good benchmark like 3dmark timespy on steam (free for the demo, works just as good,) and download msi afterburner

Id set power limit to whatever the max msi afterburner let's it to, and then something like +105 core +650 mem, and let timespy run

Every successful run, add +15 to core until it fails

Once it fails, dial it back either to the last stable oc (15mhz below obviously), or 30 if you want to be safe

Then repeat with memory, doing either +50 or +25 increments

+105 +650 is very conservative on 30 series, my 3060 ti used to be able to handle +210 on core and +1100 on vram before it degraded

[random walrus]

I can get to about +175 on my 3060ti

Voltage slider doesn't seem to do anything and Hwinfo says it's power limited so I assume I'd need some sort of vbios flash to get a higher power limit

[livid idol]

There's not a lot of headroom for overclocking on that. Maybe 3% or so.

[frank dagger]

Even undervolt?

[livid idol]

Including undervolt yes

[random walrus]

Undervolt will still drop temps even if you don't gain much perf

And/or lower fan noise

[livid idol]

Benchmarks like time spy are meant to make the difference more noticeable, but in games it'll be about 3% more fps.

[lone pond]

Hey so am having an issue and am confused. I have a B650M Pro Series Wifi motherboard. I am trying to update the BIOS using a USB Stick, Flash. I start the flash, couple seconds later it turns off. Computer turns back on with a RED VGA AND BOOT on the motherboard, and I get no display. Tried doing it with the PC turned off, and issue still persists
Anyone has any ideas on what to do next? Can't load Windows Recovery Mode since display won't show, but recovery mode works. Just can't see it on the display

[quasi flicker]

What's the current price around for an RM850x?

[keen nacelle]

Us?

[quasi flicker]

Yeah

[keen nacelle]

So it looks like the rmx shift, the newer model uses a different pinout

So you need an rm850, or 2018/2021 rmx

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FPYmP6/corsair-rm850-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020235-na

@odd siren pls double check I'm not going to make him explode

[odd siren]

Type 4 to type 4 is the idea

https://www.corsair.com/ww/en/s/psu-cable-compatibility

[quasi flicker]

GAMESTOP has the lowest price?

[quasi flicker]

I don't really mind redoing cable management if this one is going to our other computer, I probably should anyway

[bronze ivy]

Would u guys recommend me getting a 7900xtx? I have a 6600 xt been having for a couple years now.

[keen nacelle]

What cpu do you have?

[craggy pier]

Would probs want something like a 5800/x3d or a 7700/x with it for sure

[unborn furnace]

how do we feel about the new meteor lake gpus?

wondering if I need a dedicated gpu in a new laptop

[odd siren]

You mean battlemage?

Arc xe2?

I guess meteor lake counts

The newer igpu skus, intel 200v? Look great for battery life

But dgpu you'd likely be looking at another form of what's basically battlemage

Both work off using Xe2 iirc

But battlemage also looks good in general

Might be worth it in general if you catch a good best buy deal

[unborn furnace]

this one

pubg?

[odd siren]

Eh might be alright for that old thing

I didn't know people still benchmark that game

[minor vault]

Hi

[hot bough]

If this proves itself to be true, I am loving the sound of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbZZRAq8XIk

[livid idol]

40% could be possible in theory if the rumored specs are true.
+40% SM count
+32% Shader core count
+33% memory speed, plus a wider 512 bit bus for a net +44% bandwidth
All that plus generational improvements per core could add up to about 40% in some workloads. We might see a genuine 4k native ultra settings GPU. Doubtful we as consumers will ever see one since they'll be scalped immediately for $4000 but hey, it'll exist.

[frank dagger]

Hopeful for bestbuy founders edition drops again

[livid idol]

I was hoping that the santa clara microcenter would be open by now so I could go there

They said it would be "2024"

Looks like they're hiring so it has to be soon

Hmm $22 an hour plus commission

[keen nacelle]

Ill apply

Think I can commute from new England?

[livid idol]

Might be tricky to cover shifts on short notice

[random walrus]

What you won't love is how hard it'll get scalped

[real echo]

Having an issue with what seems to be gpu related. Whenever I open my games on steam and switch to full screen mode, my game just freezes. This happened with all my steam games.

I have an rx6600. I’ve already done a ddu several times and done a clean installation of the latest drivers. I’m not sure how to fix this and help would be appreciated

[livid idol]

Try disabling the iGPU from BIOS

If that has any effect then you might need to update that driver too

(I say this assuming your CPU has one, since most modern ones do)

[real echo]

The bios doesn’t have an option to disable igpu. It does let me switch from cpu to pcie or auto

I’m using asus strix b560A

Ok so I clicked on pcie but it’s still just black screened whenever I start up a game on steam

I’m gonna disable the igpu using device manager and see what happens

Ok so I tried launching resident evil village. It started, but it is stuttering like crazy. I’m getting 3-6 fps on the start menu

Tried launching league of legends and it’s also getting 5-6 FPS with setting on very low

[livid idol]

That sounds like it's running on the iGPU, what CPU did you have?

[pine rapids]

My old manager is gonna be running the spot, maybe towards the end of q1 it might be up

Nothing really set in stone from last I heard

[livid idol]

So it's going to miss the launch, booooo

They do have job listings up as of this month though so it can't be that far away

[pine rapids]

He finished his training in Tustin so it could be ready sooner

[hot bough]

fair.

[random dock]

The B580 is nowhere in stock

Can it be classified as a paper launch atp ?

[odd siren]

I have already 3 friends with one

So definitely not lmao

[livid idol]

Not a paper launch, just unexpectedly high demand

[odd siren]

Unexpected for them

This is a banger

Lol

[junior locust]

They're aiming to restock weekly

It at least bi-weekly

To keep up with demand

[hasty urchin]

Ik It’s normal for GPU usage to be at 100% for hours.

But what if it fluctuates from 70% to 100% every 5 seconds?

[odd siren]

Normal if the fps is normal

[hasty urchin]

Yea fps fluctuates from 100-144fps

Youre a man…

[odd siren]

Fluctuations because the game fluctuates ≠ fluctuations cos the gpu has issues

Games are not a locked fps unless you set up your settings to do that

They will all fluctuate

[hasty urchin]

Nah didnt say gpu has issue, just said if it’s bad for it’s health

Cus I can decrease the fluctuation at the cost of quality

[odd siren]

Nah if the game is working as intended then the gpu is working as intended

[hasty urchin]

Ok bet, thank you

[odd siren]

Np

[real echo]

I5-11400

I did disable it on device manager

[quasi flicker]

[odd siren]

I'm dead certain that's not plugged into the gpu regardless if you disabled the driver or not

[real echo]

Hmmm that’s weird. I tried starting up league normally and I’m getting 500+ fps. So the gpu is working like it’s supposed to for that application, but all my steam games are freezing on startup

[odd siren]

He plugged it into the gpu 💀

[solid glacier]

Hey okay soo i got my pc built

But i have a 1080p monitor but my cord for my 2k res monitor comes tommrow would it be fine to use my 1080p monitor or should i wait til tommrow? 9800x3d 4080super

[forest oasis]

Literally doesn't matter

Also wdym cord?

Like HDMI or display port?

You can use the HDMI or dp cable that you use for your old monitor on your new monitor if you want

[craggy pier]

Pc parts has nothing to do with that

Dp cable especially, but both should actually support up to 4k depending on versions

[solid glacier]

bro this hyte y70 xase is insane

idk how to install my fans LOL should i put 2 exhaust fans on the bottom and then 1 on side? and then the other 2 on right side

[craggy pier]

Typically you want more intake than exhaust

[forest oasis]

Side intakes, rear exhaust, ideally more intake than exhaust for positive pressure to prevent dust buildup on cracks

Will also have less dust ingress through the PCIe slots

[solid glacier]

how many on bottom then

[forest oasis]

Bottom as intake would be useful for the gpu

If you have enough fans, all bottom and front or (or side for your case) should be intake, rear and top is exhaust

[solid glacier]

Correct formation for intake?

[forest oasis]

Sticker with logo is the intake side

Sticker with electrical information and sku is the exhaust side

Unless you have reverse fans but those arent

[solid glacier]

So like thus

But with them screwed on the bracket ofc

Or switch them around

[forest oasis]

Is that the bottom

[solid glacier]

ye

[forest oasis]

Fans are currently facing exhaust direction

In this config it would be blowing air out of the case

[solid glacier]

but bottom u want intake?

[forest oasis]

Yes

[solid glacier]

so switch them around

[forest oasis]

GPUs suck the air in from the fans and blow it out the sides, so having fresh air come in from the bottom is ideal

[craggy pier]

Just rotate them 180°

[craggy pier]

The ugly sticker should be showing on the bottom of the case

[forest oasis]

Me when I rotate a fan 180 degrees: ->

[craggy pier]

Fr

Depends what direction you rotate it

[forest oasis]

Lmao

Saying rotate is kinda ambiguous

We do live in a 3d plane

[craggy pier]

We do?

😨

[forest oasis]

I know, it's scary

But 3 dimensions aren't that bad

Just wait till you hear about the 4th dimension

[craggy pier]

Don't tell that to her

Her brain can't handle it

[solid glacier]

Is this correct

[craggy pier]

If that's the bottom of the case, yes

[solid glacier]

ez

ty

[craggy pier]

Yee building a pc is like giant Legos lol

Its simple enough

Just gotta know where to put stuff

[solid glacier]

The

This one like they

This?

[solid glacier]

rt

?

[solid glacier]

r u busy?

[solid glacier]

Bro there the wrong way

[forest oasis]

I'm eating, but what's up

[solid glacier]

i need help with fans

[hot bough]

I can help later.

[forest oasis]

So far everything looks fine

[solid glacier]

Welp uh

I may have fried my CPU

I turned it on it showed signal it put me into Bios

I turned it off put in usb to flash bios and now I clicked flash bios

And my red cpu light is on

[hot bough]

9800x3D yes? Note my responses will be slow as I am packing my PC for travel.

[solid glacier]

Yes

[hot bough]

You made sure you installed the correct bios?

[solid glacier]

Uhh yea

[hot bough]

CPU and DRAM my guess is probably training the memory

[solid glacier]

It turned on and showed signal but then I clickedd flash bios

[hot bough]

Mine took like 15m first time I did it

[solid glacier]

And now it isn’t showing up on anything

[odd siren]

It takes a long time

[solid glacier]

My others didn’t

[odd siren]

It did when I updated to the latest agesa

Wait out 15 minutes just to be safe

[solid glacier]

Ight

[odd siren]

If it's still not done after that, consider a reboot

Flashing is only risky if it's interrupted

So you wait, always

If it gets stuck then the board should fall back

[solid glacier]

This is the bios I flashed with

What do I do if nothing happens

Rebooted did nothing

Shouldn’t of flashed bios fml idk what to do

CMOS batter time

[forest oasis]

it's best to only flash to the latest non-beta version

[solid glacier]

Oh

I did beta version

Might of screwed that

what do i do now

[forest oasis]

If you have a bios flash button (pretty much all am5 boards should have it) then you just need a usb

Drive

[solid glacier]

Yea idfk this pc is cooked

[odd siren]

Green means it's booting so something isn't making the display appear

Rebooting the monitor

Change gpu display port

Things like that

That's what's missing

If you have a riser cable that isn't as fast as the motherboard slot then that can also cause it

Means booting without the riser

Missing keyboard/mouse is another one

Things like that

[livid idol]

Sometimes it'll default to the iGPU

[odd siren]

That too

And you can access the bios that way as well

[solid glacier]

Well its yellow

Not geeen

So it isn’t showing display

It looks yellow at least

Like a neon yellow

[odd siren]

I see a very green colour there lol

[solid glacier]

The camera makes it green

[odd siren]

Is it the last of 4 lights in that spot

[solid glacier]

Yea

I had to take out a ram stick bc my dram light was on

[odd siren]

Then it's green

Boot

[solid glacier]

Everything is on

Showing no signal though

[odd siren]

Not while turned on I hope

[solid glacier]

Nah off ofc lol

Showing no display

[odd siren]

Again

Try igpu

[solid glacier]

Oh bet

[solid glacier]

Wait wym igpu like mobo do port

[livid idol]

yes

[solid glacier]

Yea still no signal

[odd siren]

I swear it's something lol

[livid idol]

displayport is weird, sometimes it only works when the cable is in before you turn it on

HDMI doesn't have that issue

[solid glacier]

Should I get a HMDI

cable

[odd siren]

Or the monitor side cable is loose

[solid glacier]

I got like 20

It works with my other pc

Should I try shutting the pc off

And back on

[solid glacier]

Doesn’t show on HMDI either

Holy I’m in

[solid glacier]

I need help flashing Bios what do I do

Can I plug the USB in the pc now or do I shut it off first

Wait for my bios.. is the whole folder suppose to be in USB or no

[odd siren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKMub20CUNI

[livid idol]

It doesn't matter if you're flashing from inside the bios since you can navigate the folders

It only matter for flashback

[solid glacier]

Okay so somthing is definitely wrong

Everytime I go to put my USB in my pc dram light turns on same with red cpu light

When I take USB stick out it the light shuts off

Idk what’s going on

[livid idol]

If that's the only symptom then ignore it

[solid glacier]

It doesn’t go into bios

[livid idol]

Plug in the usb after it gets to bios

[solid glacier]

Bet

How do I fix the ram issue though pc won’t boot with 2 sticks

[livid idol]

Switch the bios version first then try it again, it could be a beta bug

[solid glacier]

Got it flashing phew

I also seen that doing this enables secure boot and the pc won’t display with that on how do I fix that?

[livid idol]

The secure boot option will need to match what it was when you installed windows

You can find it in the security section iirc