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odd siren Jun 29, 2024, 10:41 PM

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We will be out of ideas

frank dagger Jun 29, 2024, 10:47 PM

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20 min in and cpu load is still goin well

frank dagger Jun 29, 2024, 11:09 PM

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40 min still good. Im sure cpu is fine

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So this power settings and vsoc loadline?

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In bios doin settings

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VCORE soc?

odd siren Jun 30, 2024, 3:35 AM

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Don't touch vsoc load line

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Just normal loadline @frank dagger

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Set to normal

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These are all some pretty normal settings for a stronger imc

frank dagger Jun 30, 2024, 5:30 AM

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I gave up. Hired a technician online, technician didn't help either.

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Pc is junk

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Even after a clean install, it crashes

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Psu is probably at fault, i don't know. It still crashes in power test, im done

odd siren Jun 30, 2024, 5:38 AM

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That sucks

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Well either way it's an issue with the IMC or ram, broken or not

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Those bsods only occur pretty much from that bar for exceptional circumstances

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Change of cpu would be my next suggestion

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Maybe even go to new platform with AM5

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A problematic EPS cable may be able to create a situation like this but usually psu has a few different errors

frank dagger Jun 30, 2024, 5:41 AM

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Cpu stress test was fine though, never had problems there.
But ima entertain the thought and switch cpu anyways

odd siren Jun 30, 2024, 5:41 AM

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Kernelpower 141 being a particular one

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Yea I know what you mean

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We threw a bunch of tests and nothing

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Yet a game immediately kills it

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That's highly unusual

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Power test as well

frank dagger Jun 30, 2024, 5:42 AM

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PSU was in 2021. It shouldn't go bad

odd siren Jun 30, 2024, 5:42 AM

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It can still happen

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I have a 2022 psu with a dead plug

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Silverstone DA1650G if you don't believe me

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It's not supposed to happen but can

frank dagger Jun 30, 2024, 5:42 AM

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Then fudge corsair

odd siren Jun 30, 2024, 5:43 AM

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I'm not totally convinced of the psu honestly lol

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Maybe SSD before it

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If it's HMB

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If you're able to run the 3D test just fine then I have doubts is PSU for the most part

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Especially if no audible click

frank dagger Jun 30, 2024, 5:44 AM

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The ssd health should be fine though, its samsung

odd siren Jun 30, 2024, 5:44 AM

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Samsung had a massive scandal in early 2023

frank dagger Jun 30, 2024, 5:45 AM

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I know, but this drive was the tier before it in 1tb

odd siren Jun 30, 2024, 5:45 AM

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I'm only speculating here, not flat out saying it is broken lol

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There's only so much that can be done from this side of a screen

frank dagger Jun 30, 2024, 5:45 AM

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Well there's a new problem in motherboard if ya wanna see it

odd siren Jun 30, 2024, 5:45 AM

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Alr

olive bobcat Jun 30, 2024, 3:56 PM

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Is there any way to stretch old gpus into doing stuff they shouldn’t
For fun

heady turtle Jun 30, 2024, 5:30 PM

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olive bobcat Is there any way to stretch old gpus into doing stuff they shouldn’t For fun

Clarify " stuff they shouldn't do"

olive bobcat Jun 30, 2024, 5:31 PM

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heady turtle Clarify " stuff they shouldn't do"

Yes

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jensen2

heady turtle Jun 30, 2024, 5:32 PM

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olive bobcat Yes

Well everything you can do with them they're kinda designed to do?

olive bobcat Jun 30, 2024, 5:33 PM

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But push even further beyond
Like make a 2gb gpu into a 2.5

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Like crack the frick out of it

heady turtle Jun 30, 2024, 5:33 PM

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olive bobcat Like crack the *frick* out of it

I mean you can with a soldering iron and some bios modding

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But then you're going to have to buy some vram which isn't sold commercially

sharp trellis Jun 30, 2024, 5:40 PM

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a friend said 2080ti has 33gb vram but it was deactivated or not supported

keen nacelle Jun 30, 2024, 5:41 PM

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sharp trellis a friend said 2080ti has 33gb vram but it was deactivated or not supported

Your friend is a moron

sharp trellis Jun 30, 2024, 5:42 PM

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💀

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lemme check so I dont misintrepret that

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44gb of vram

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idk how one can make 44gb vram on 2080ti work

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when it has 11 GB actual vram.

sharp trellis Jun 30, 2024, 6:15 PM

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@odd siren yo

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Normal for 79xt to pull 330W?

keen nacelle Jun 30, 2024, 6:19 PM

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sharp trellis idk how one can make 44gb vram on 2080ti work

Modding

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Very, very difficult and complicated modding

sharp trellis Jun 30, 2024, 6:19 PM

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I can't imagine.

keen nacelle Jun 30, 2024, 6:19 PM

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I read an article on it over a year ago atp, that's the only reason I know about it

sharp trellis Jun 30, 2024, 6:19 PM

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So is it possible or no?

keen nacelle Jun 30, 2024, 6:20 PM

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Basically you take off the vram chips, and solder on denser memory chips?

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So I'd imagine 2080 ti is 11x1gb vram chips or whatever they're called, so they take them off and put on 11x4

sharp trellis Jun 30, 2024, 6:22 PM

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Interesting

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It sounds possible but complicated

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And maybe risk burning up capacitors?

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Anyways genuine question

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330watt pulling power, normal for 79xt to reach high usage?

frank dagger Jun 30, 2024, 6:25 PM

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frank dagger PSU was in 2021. It shouldn't go bad

I changed the cpu from a 3900x to a 5600... it doesn't crash... maybe the cpu socket or cpu cord is bad then. Considering how the 5600 is 80w while the 3900x is 150w

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OR the CPU socket is damaged, but if it was it would've shut down even with the 5600...

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Hope PSU box has 2 CPU cables

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Yep! 2 cords, ima revert the back and change the psu cord!

frank dagger Jun 30, 2024, 7:27 PM

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OMFG!
It is just a bad CPU PSU CORD!
I did all that sacrafice for nothing!
It was just the CPU PSU CORD!!!!

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It hasn't crashed yet!

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Okay, then, so my CPU overclock must've killed the CPU cord

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3 days over one cord... 3 DAYS LOST!

odd siren Jun 30, 2024, 7:41 PM

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Hey tech

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You got it working?

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Thinkies

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Though tbf the fact it was so consistent at spitting wheas really threw me off the psu cables tbh

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But glad the problem was finally found

odd siren Jun 30, 2024, 7:46 PM

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odd siren A problematic EPS cable *may* be able to create a situation like this but usuall...

Cos ye it'll usually say other stuff like KERNEL_POWER_STATE_FAILURE or CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT or other stuff like that when it's a dead EPS

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I think DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL is another

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There's a few

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Got a lot of experience with that from dead 12900K's, lol

odd siren Jun 30, 2024, 7:48 PM

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frank dagger Okay, then, so my CPU overclock must've killed the CPU cord

Probably had the makings of dying over time from sample quality tbh

frank dagger Jun 30, 2024, 7:49 PM

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How can i check for next time?

odd siren Jun 30, 2024, 7:49 PM

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sharp trellis Normal for 79xt to pull 330W?

Mhm

frank dagger Jun 30, 2024, 7:49 PM

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I probably have to buy a external tool don't i?

odd siren Jun 30, 2024, 7:49 PM

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Ye it's not easy to figure out most of the time

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Psu failures can be really painful

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The fact you made it to that in 3 days is in one sense really lucky

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Usually takes a lot longer

frank dagger Jun 30, 2024, 7:50 PM

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Bruh... i should've done the "stupid" stuff first before goin into software and drivers

odd siren Jun 30, 2024, 7:51 PM

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Dead cable is not a common one tho, especially when the errors were so consistent

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I've had 2 psus fail on me with one rn on a dead plug. The two that failed had wild issues, and the dead plug one would just really refuse to start

sharp trellis Jun 30, 2024, 7:53 PM

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odd siren Mhm

Cool cool

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It's doing well with Ultra settings

odd siren Jun 30, 2024, 7:53 PM

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Bsods would be completely random, and switchoffs are really common

sharp trellis Jun 30, 2024, 7:54 PM

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100+ frames at 3440x1440p

odd siren Jun 30, 2024, 7:54 PM

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So a cable fail like this and found fast is a good outcome imo

sharp trellis Jun 30, 2024, 7:54 PM

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I'm happy with it

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As long it's over 100 frames or close to it

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It gud

odd siren Jun 30, 2024, 7:54 PM

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Sounds good lad

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Just make sure not to change the settings too much in amd drivers and it should stay good

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Too many changes at once can overwhelm it a bit lol

sharp trellis Jun 30, 2024, 7:55 PM

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Ah okay

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have everything turned off or default except Anti Lag

odd siren Jun 30, 2024, 7:57 PM

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Looks fine

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Radeon overlay off I usually disable too

sharp trellis Jun 30, 2024, 7:58 PM

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yeah good idea

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i wanna set that window side to side when im doing a test

odd siren Jun 30, 2024, 8:00 PM

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odd siren I've had 2 psus fail on me with one rn on a dead plug. The two that failed had w...

For context btw one took a casual week, the other took 4 months

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The dead plug one took like a month on it's own

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Tons of testing

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Lots of rma's on the 4 month one, I lost 3 cpus and multiple ram kits

sharp trellis Jul 1, 2024, 2:29 AM

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Perfomance on 79XT is wowZERS

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144 fps in Witcher 3

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80 fps with RT ultra

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FSR 2 on

naive bane Jul 1, 2024, 7:56 PM

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I want rtx 8090ti coz then the games will look surprising enough

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Like bodycam did

livid idol Jul 1, 2024, 8:17 PM

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Well if we're lucky Nvidia will grace us with that gift sometime this decade

outer hornet Jul 2, 2024, 3:03 AM

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naive bane I want rtx 8090ti coz then the games will look surprising enough

By that time amd will probably have stable drivers too 💀

livid idol Jul 2, 2024, 3:06 AM

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Maybe by then Nvidia will fix some of the bugs in their drivers that they've had for 8+ years

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And finally move away from the settings UI that they made in 2001

raven wharf Jul 2, 2024, 3:29 AM

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livid idol Well if we're lucky Nvidia will grace us with that gift sometime this decade

unlucky*

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1200w 4000$ msrp

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maybe will be x2 faster than 6090

livid idol Jul 2, 2024, 3:34 AM

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Double the power for double the performance, and only at triple the price! Look at that great deal they're offering!

raven wharf Jul 2, 2024, 4:37 AM

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livid idol Double the power for double the performance, and only at triple the price! Look ...

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-jensen-huang-the-more-you-buy-the-more-you-save-keynote-2018-gif-12315008507302833354

Tenor

exotic viper Jul 3, 2024, 2:47 AM

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Hello everyone! Recently My graphic card started giving me frequent black screen, random lines and artifacts once in a while. After few days I could even run any games or benchmarks and I noticed that there was some issue in graphic card driver. I tried DDU and clean installed drivers. For some reason my pc is not recognising the installed driver. I tried reseating the gpu, update bios, still nothing. Finally I used my gpu on my friend's pc and it had the same problem but his gpu was working fine on mine. I checked Gpu z and I noticed that its not detecing the memory size or speed. So I assume its faulty vram?

hexed forge Jul 3, 2024, 2:53 AM

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I believe so. If it doesn't work in either PC and the other GPU works in both PCs then that GPU is dead

keen nacelle Jul 3, 2024, 3:46 AM

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exotic viper Hello everyone! Recently My graphic card started giving me frequent black screen...

Try undervolting the gpu

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And underclocking the memory

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That wouldn't permanently fix it, but can potentially give it a few more months, or even past a year

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Depends on how bad it is/what the issue is

exotic viper Jul 3, 2024, 3:49 AM

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What is strange is the Its still able to give output but its limited to 60fps and works only for basic tasks. Anything GPU intensive, it crashes. Is it possible that its using my RAM for memory since the vram is faulty?

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 4:52 AM

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If the VRAM is faulty then whenever that part of the memory is accessed the returned data would be corrupted

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GDDR6 is quite good at error correcting enough to keep it from crashing

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 4:55 AM

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exotic viper Hello everyone! Recently My graphic card started giving me frequent black screen...

You can use tools to correctly verify this but if gpu-z is detecting less vram than the card is supposed to do, that's a pretty telltale sign that the card has in fact lost a chip or more due to a bga break or dead nand chip

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I don't know what tools you'd use for this as I've never encountered this myself irl, but gpu repair channels might have a demonstration

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What would apply at this point would be gpu repair/scrap tbh

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Vram is really hard to fix if it's the module itself

exotic viper Jul 3, 2024, 5:00 AM

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odd siren You can use tools to correctly verify this but if gpu-z is detecting less vram t...

https://ibb.co/9c0MqM9
https://ibb.co/pLv7FmL
Im not able to share image here. This is what I see in GPU Z. Memory size is 0

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:01 AM

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Ah then not good honestly

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Hoo man yeah

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Full vbios but no detected vram? Could be something

exotic viper Jul 3, 2024, 5:03 AM

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I was planning to stretch it till 5000 series release sadly Its gone before that : /

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:03 AM

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Ok

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Go to device manager

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Look at video adapters

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Check your 2080ti for code 43

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If that pops up...welp.

exotic viper Jul 3, 2024, 5:04 AM

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Yeah i get the code 43 error

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:05 AM

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Try disabling then reenabling the card

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Right click

exotic viper Jul 3, 2024, 5:05 AM

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Tried it. Still same

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:05 AM

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Disable, restart

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Enable

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Same?

exotic viper Jul 3, 2024, 5:05 AM

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yup

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Tried every possible fix. I just give up at this point lol

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:06 AM

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Yeah nvidia website says 43 means it's probably defective

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It's a hardware error

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 5:06 AM

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Well, not every fix... do you happen to have an old toaster oven you don't mind sacrificing?

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:06 AM

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kekw

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Fair

exotic viper Jul 3, 2024, 5:07 AM

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Will a microwave oven work?

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 5:07 AM

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No

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:07 AM

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If you're willing to give fal a chance there's odds this would potentially work

exotic viper Jul 3, 2024, 5:07 AM

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u are suggesting to rebake?

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:07 AM

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It's going to smell HORRIBLE

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Yes

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Reflow bga

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 5:07 AM

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Yep, reflow that solder a little bit

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:08 AM

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Hence sacrificial oven

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 5:08 AM

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It's also going to make whatever you cook it in toxic

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:08 AM

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Don't do it in your normal oven

exotic viper Jul 3, 2024, 5:10 AM

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odd siren Hence sacrificial oven

Nah my mom will kill me. I will just get a new card at this point. There might be some guys who repairs gpu on board level. Maybe I will pay them a visit

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 5:10 AM

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It's a 50/50 shot of it working but you don't have much to lose at this point

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You could see if someone like buildzoid (actually hardcore overclocking) will buy it to fix on camera

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:11 AM

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Does he have a reflow station?

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 5:11 AM

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Yes

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:11 AM

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I don't think he does

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Oh

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Well then maybe yeah

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 5:11 AM

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A nice hot plate too for preheating

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:12 AM

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exotic viper Nah my mom will kill me. I will just get a new card at this point. There might b...

$240 3070 would slot right back in there as if nothing was really lost tbh

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Used ofc

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 5:12 AM

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A little better RT performance but otherwise quite similar to what you have

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:12 AM

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Sell the 2080ti as for parts

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120-150-ish

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Cos it works but not correctly

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Would cut your losses really short that way

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 5:13 AM

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Higher odds of parent approval too

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:13 AM

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Yeah $100 is a drop in the water

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Just explain the pc is broken

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It's a fair bit of money but to fix something that's not a gross amount

exotic viper Jul 3, 2024, 5:14 AM

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Yeah looks like I got no other option. Rn its giving some output so I will just use it till it dies completely.

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:14 AM

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Alr

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I would let them know though

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Start your story now until it truly dies lol

exotic viper Jul 3, 2024, 5:16 AM

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Actually I saved up enough to get a 3060ti. Just a little more I can get a 4070 super

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:16 AM

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4070 super would slot right in too

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Or 7900 GRE

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What psu you got there mate

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Psu and cpu is what I need

exotic viper Jul 3, 2024, 5:18 AM

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its a 5 years old pc with 850w psu. It should be fine i guess

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:18 AM

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Need the psu name my friend

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850 is just the capacity, tells me nothing to it's performance

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Full name not brand

exotic viper Jul 3, 2024, 5:19 AM

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corsiar rm850x

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:19 AM

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Ok beautiful

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 5:19 AM

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Same as mine, great unit

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:19 AM

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Either of those gpus will go right in

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Rmx is still top tier even today

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7900 GRE can be had for as low as about $520 new

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6900xt/6950XT would also go in there for some $450

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Or 3080Ti

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 5:20 AM

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If you upgrade to 40 series nvidia you can get this to go with it
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/pc-components-accessories/cp-8920284/600w-pcie-5-0-12vhpwr-type-4-psu-power-cable-cp-8920284

CORSAIR

12VHPWR Cable | 600W PCIe 5.0 Power Adapter Cable

The official CORSAIR 600W PCIe 5.0 / Gen 5 12VHPWR PSU Power Cable delivers power from CORSAIR Type-4 PSUs to the most advanced PCIe 5.0 graphics cards.

exotic viper Jul 3, 2024, 5:20 AM

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odd siren 7900 GRE can be had for as low as about $520 new

yeah it still got 5 years of warrenty left. Looks like it will be the last component to last in my build lol

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:20 AM

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livid idol If you upgrade to 40 series nvidia you can get this to go with it https://www.c...

Adapter also works in the box tho

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But ye

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Depending how much you saved, anywhere from about 350 to 550 will net around the same-ish performance if you don't mind used

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Then you leap to 7900xt at $700

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 5:21 AM

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I always prefer the cable. I got measurably better results going from an adapter to a dedicated 12 pin cable on my 3080 ti.

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:23 AM

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6800XT<=7800XT<3080Ti=6900XT<6950XT≈4070 Super<=7900 GRE

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Consider those options

exotic viper Jul 3, 2024, 5:23 AM

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I am looking at a some used 3080ti with 1 or 2 years warenty. I could buy it right away with the money i got and no need for a new cable.

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:23 AM

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Yeah

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Would be good

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Around 400-450 is good

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 5:24 AM

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I can play just about any game at 1440p high or ultra on mine, you'll like the 3080 ti

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:25 AM

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Oh, when you do @exotic viper , get a gpu support brace

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$7 for a magnetic stick on amazon

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Saves lost vram...lol

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 5:25 AM

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And broken slots

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:25 AM

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30 series and beyond are very susceptible to it due to the large coolers

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In an ironic twist there

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Lol

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 5:26 AM

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Totally unexpected and no one saw that coming ||/s||

exotic viper Jul 3, 2024, 5:27 AM

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odd siren Saves lost vram...lol

So you mean sag might have caused this issue to my 2080ti?

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:27 AM

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Possible

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Bga pad breaking and lost core/vram is often caused by sag

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 5:28 AM

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Heavy coolers can bend the PCB over time, causing it to basically snap off solder

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:28 AM

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Very common problem on today's larger cards*

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Yep

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It wasn't as much an issue for 20 series

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Just unlucky really

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 5:29 AM

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If there's at least 3 points of contact with the case and motherboard then you nearly eliminate the problem

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PCIe slot on mobo, rear slots where the video plugs go, plus a support from the bottom

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:30 AM

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Well, 3 good points of triangulation ye

exotic viper Jul 3, 2024, 5:31 AM

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odd siren It wasn't as much an issue for 20 series

Its a MSI 2080ti gaming trio x. A large card hanging there for 5 years, so it could be possible.

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:31 AM

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It's possible ye

exotic viper Jul 3, 2024, 5:31 AM

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odd siren Well, 3 good points of triangulation ye

https://tenor.com/view/tri-beam-tien-tien-tri-beam-cell-tenshinhan-gif-10855013646248299726

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:32 AM

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When you talk to your parents tell them you spoke to a pc support group

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It's not really lying, not really truthtelling lmao

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We do a lot of the pc store's support here

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 5:32 AM

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Heck you could probably tell them you talked to newegg's technical support since their CS team uses us like that lol

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:33 AM

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Honestly yeah

exotic viper Jul 3, 2024, 5:35 AM

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Its not actually a big deal. Im a working grown ass adult 😂

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:35 AM

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Ah alr

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Misread the context lol

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 5:36 AM

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Hard to tell sometimes, we get all kinds here

exotic viper Jul 3, 2024, 5:36 AM

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Should have mentioned earlier lol

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:36 AM

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Place is like a lego set

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Everyone from ages 10+ asking

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Lmao

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 5:36 AM

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Even though discord is 13+

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:36 AM

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Yep still happens tho lol

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 5:37 AM

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livid idol Even though discord is 13+

my fans are at 100 rn and i can hear the damn clicking

exotic viper Jul 3, 2024, 5:37 AM

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Thanks for the chat guys cya

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:37 AM

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Np

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:37 AM

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raven wharf my fans are at 100 rn and i can hear the damn clicking

Did you swap the aio

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 5:37 AM

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odd siren Did you swap the aio

yes

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and i think it might be a fan

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💀

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:38 AM

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??? That wasn't the aio then

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 5:38 AM

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raven wharf my fans are at 100 rn and i can hear the damn clicking

Stop the fans with your finger one at a time and see if it goes away

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 5:38 AM

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sure sounded like it

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 5:38 AM

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livid idol Stop the fans with your finger one at a time and see if it goes away

at 1500rpm?

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 5:38 AM

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Yes

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:38 AM

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raven wharf at 1500rpm?

Finger in the middle

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 5:38 AM

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I don't mean jam your finger in there, touch the hub

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 5:38 AM

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it deadass just went away as we were typing

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like faded out

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:38 AM

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Bro it's an imposter

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 5:39 AM

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An unbalanced fan might do that

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 5:39 AM

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let me turn them back down then up again

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:39 AM

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Well not as worried if a fan clicks

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That's $4

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 5:39 AM

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im mad because my aio tube run isnt as clean

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idk if i put it in wrong but the tubes are weird for this one

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:40 AM

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I thought you figured it out it was the pump 😂😂

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 5:40 AM

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you said it was 💀

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or someone did idk

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i needed more paste on it anyway lol

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:41 AM

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Lmao

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 5:41 AM

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🙃

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:42 AM

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Hahaha

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Fan is super easy to fix so

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 5:43 AM

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also did i put the new aio in wrong or smth

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this was the first time

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this is now

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the tubes are all wacko it seemed like

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ok let me go render like 90 chunks in minecraft thats the only time i can manually recreate the noise it seems like

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:45 AM

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Oh you have a different twist in the tubes

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If you rotated the radiator 180 or 360 degrees in one direction that would probably fix it

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 5:46 AM

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Project for another day

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First thing is finding this fan i guess

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i cant get it to make the noise idk

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ill play around with it tomorrow its almost 2 AM

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once I find it and swap it out ill mess around with the rad to fix the tubes, i was just nervous playing around with it i didnt want to bend and break anything

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:52 AM

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You'll be fine

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Takes a lot to break an aio tbh

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Unless you willfully go for the radiator channels

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 5:53 AM

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odd siren Takes a lot to break an aio tbh

first time (i guess 2nd since its a replacement) handling one the first time i was super careful lol

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i bumped the block on the case once and i thought thats what might of done the noise or smth

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:54 AM

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Nope

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I've been pretty nasty with my aios lmao

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They're still fine

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The fact they're in water means they can handle a fair bit lol

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 5:54 AM

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fair

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:55 AM

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Radiator are very simple as well, yoy have water channels, and copper fins

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Quite similar to the heatpipes you see on air coolers

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The can handle a fair bit of abuse honestly

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Would it look good tho? No kekw

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 5:56 AM

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the rad is just metal isnt it

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all the important stuff is in the pump block

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 5:57 AM

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Yep

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:57 AM

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Ye

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 5:57 AM

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Y

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:57 AM

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Metal with water running through the small tubes

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Small reservoir at either end

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Very simple design honestly

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 5:58 AM

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also do either of you have tips for managing rgb fan cables

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i have all 7 of mine into one hub

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but its just stuffed into the back i like

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 5:59 AM

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Zip ties

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 5:59 AM

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could not keep on it

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:59 AM

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I often use zip ties yeah

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 5:59 AM

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Or twisties

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 5:59 AM

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But you have to be ultra careful

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I zip tie to the case normally but not tight

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Too tight and it's cancer

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 6:00 AM

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i want one of you to come do it for me cables are my worst nightmare i just cant handle managing them for some reason

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i should of done it as i went

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 6:00 AM

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Sure just pay for my plane ticket and I'll be omw

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 6:00 AM

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yes i want felix to come roast me irl and not in discord!

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 6:00 AM

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Let's see short notice plane trip to dallas

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This friday, from a major Au hub

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$2200 usd pls

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kekw

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 6:02 AM

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wrong state

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 6:02 AM

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Well I gotta fly to one of the international hubs

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Ok well then we have the connecting flight from dallas

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 6:02 AM

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i havent flown before idk how that works lol

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 6:02 AM

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odd siren Ok well then we have the connecting flight from dallas

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 6:02 AM

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Don't you want to look at my back panel before you make that offer bbnohappy

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I promise it doesn't look that good either lol. I've made a lot of upgrades since the initial build and I kinda gave up.

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 6:03 AM

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Hope I don't get flight emails now

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 6:03 AM

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livid idol I promise it doesn't look that good either lol. I've made a lot of upgrades sinc...

i cant remember if ive seen your build before or not

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 6:04 AM

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My inbox is pretty sanitary don't want to trigger a mailing list omg

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 6:04 AM

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odd siren Hope I don't get flight emails now

tourist destination ohio

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 6:04 AM

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odd siren $2200 usd pls

It's independence day this week so that's about right

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 6:04 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/happy-4th-of-july-patriotic-gif-22193318

Tenor

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rahh

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 6:04 AM

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raven wharf i cant remember if ive seen your build before or not

Oh you've seen the front... not the back

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 6:04 AM

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livid idol It's independence day this week so that's about right

Ironically it's barely any different than the price I paid to go a few years ago

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 6:04 AM

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livid idol Oh you've seen the front... not the back

is it white with like 4 monitors

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 6:04 AM

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It's in fact cheaper

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 6:05 AM

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raven wharf is it white with like 4 monitors

No, it's the Torrent that I butchered into fitting a 420mm AIO that doesn't actually fit

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 6:05 AM

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doesnt ring a bell ngl

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 6:05 AM

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livid idol No, it's the Torrent that I butchered into fitting a 420mm AIO that doesn't actu...

You pc reminds me of a semi

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Lol

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 6:05 AM

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brb

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 6:09 AM

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Took a minute to find the updated pic

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vital oriole Jul 3, 2024, 6:11 AM

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livemixer

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my beloved

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 6:11 AM

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lowkey goated board

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Excellent IO, great at memory OC, heatsinks for all 3 M.2 slots

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 6:11 AM

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livid idol

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idk I guess I’m used to seeing glass boxes like mine with rgb

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That board is kinda sick

vital oriole Jul 3, 2024, 6:13 AM

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fractal torrent

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 6:13 AM

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The Torrent still is at the top of almost every performance chart

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 6:15 AM

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am I tripping or does your 30xx have green rgb on the top or is that a reflection

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 6:15 AM

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Mostly because it brute forces its way to the top with 2x 180mm and 3x 140mm fans

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 6:15 AM

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raven wharf am I tripping or does your 30xx have green rgb on the top or is that a reflectio...

Yes on the high tier FE cards that LED is ARGB

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 6:16 AM

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livid idol Yes on the high tier FE cards that LED is ARGB

Huh I never knew that was a thing

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 6:16 AM

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3070 and lower it's just white

vital oriole Jul 3, 2024, 6:16 AM

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woah

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 6:16 AM

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That’s neat

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 6:16 AM

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You just need to use the EVGA PX1 software to adjust it, or openrgb

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Those are the only 2 I know of that can adjust it

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I used openrgb to change the color dynamically based on GPU hotspot temps

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 6:18 AM

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fancy

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 6:18 AM

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And the bottom fans on my case run based on the GPU hotspot temp too, thanks to fan control

raven wharf Jul 3, 2024, 6:19 AM

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I want to actually spend time to learn fan curves and proper software but I don’t think I’ll ever be able to or really need to

livid idol Jul 3, 2024, 6:20 AM

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Fan control has gotten easier, and you can hook into hwinfo for extra sensors like the GPU ones

odd siren Jul 3, 2024, 6:22 AM

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livid idol lowkey goated board

My image of the board has been ruined 😂😂

tough plinth Jul 4, 2024, 3:04 AM

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how to fix this display thing? im pretty sure its the gpu being slow, but i updated drivers for it and its still like this

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asus rog strix rx580 o8gb

wheat crag Jul 4, 2024, 3:46 AM

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tough plinth how to fix this display thing? im pretty sure its the gpu being slow, but i upda...

I think your gpu is artifacting, might be broken

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lone pond Jul 4, 2024, 4:49 AM

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hi :)
i recently built a new pc, around march 19th
ever since then ive noticed weird screen flickers.
it happens usually when i mjust clicking around the desktop, watching youtube, doing work in tabs
sometimes both monitors, mostly just the primary one though.
its usually a split second, but sometimes stays on screen for up to 1 full second.
its usually some pixelated checkerboard blocky black squares. sometimes some triangles in there too.
pictured is a very horrid representation similar to what happens. but every time its somewhat different.
i did scrape i think 2 pins on my gpu upon insertion. but its never really been an issue apart from this? games run fine, my fps is great
one of my friends i think had a similar issue, but he said ram fixed it so im not sure what to make of it.
i have a zotac 4070ti btw. :)
any help?

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oh, second note:
sometimes it will capture on a recording if i use nvidia. i can see if i can catch it rn

cerulean rover Jul 4, 2024, 6:56 AM

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My guesses are either ram instability, windows corruption, graphics driver corruption, or GPU instability (more likely vram than core)

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I would recommend running dism and then sfc, then try ddu and testmem5, if ddu fixes it, that's it, if testmem5 comes up with errors, you'll need to mess with the ram and that'll likely be the issue.

vital oriole Jul 4, 2024, 7:53 AM

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if everything doesn't work

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i'd probably rma the gpu

primal snow Jul 4, 2024, 8:00 AM

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lone pond hi :) i recently built a new pc, around march 19th ever since then ive noticed ...

does that weird pattern cover the whole screen or just a small section(in a corner maybe?)

lone pond Jul 4, 2024, 4:38 PM

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cerulean rover My guesses are either ram instability, windows corruption, graphics driver corru...

okay, ill try all this in a second. :)

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thank you

lone pond Jul 4, 2024, 4:39 PM

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primal snow does that weird pattern cover the whole screen or just a small section(in a corn...

most of the screen yes

topaz mason Jul 4, 2024, 4:39 PM

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what cards do you guys recommend for a budget of 150-250 usd? I'd like to see some recommendations between those ranges. New or Used

keen nacelle Jul 4, 2024, 4:42 PM

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topaz mason what cards do you guys recommend for a budget of 150-250 usd? I'd like to see so...

Used, 5700xt, 1080 ti, 2060 super+ and 6600/6600xt

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New the only real option is 6600 for gaming

topaz mason Jul 4, 2024, 5:33 PM

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keen nacelle Used, 5700xt, 1080 ti, 2060 super+ and 6600/6600xt

thanks very much

primal snow Jul 4, 2024, 7:11 PM

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Ah so Id recommend looking at the other components, test against a different monitor and with a different cable. If there's another video out port, use that too.

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If it were a smaller area I'd worry about the card like bad memory or something but that sounds like something maybe in the monitor is acting funky

topaz mason Jul 5, 2024, 1:55 AM

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keen nacelle Used, 5700xt, 1080 ti, 2060 super+ and 6600/6600xt

how would you rank them from first to last?

keen nacelle Jul 5, 2024, 2:44 AM

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topaz mason how would you rank them from first to last?

5700xt/1080 ti/2070 super/6600xt are all about equal

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1080, 2060 super, and 6600 are all close enough

tough plinth Jul 5, 2024, 2:50 AM

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whats the best sub $200 gpu? ideally as cheap as possible

keen nacelle Jul 5, 2024, 2:54 AM

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6600, but if you'd buy used there's other options

odd siren Jul 5, 2024, 2:55 AM

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5700XT at $120 is untouchable

keen nacelle Jul 5, 2024, 2:55 AM

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/155762097124?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=2bCBlDMmSmy&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

eBay

XFX Radeon RX 6600 XT 8GB Speedster QICK308 Black GPU | 1yr Warrant...

Dive into your favorite titles knowing the Ghost Thermal design will keep things cool and noise levels low. AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT GPU. Stress tested using punishing benchmarks to ensure stability under load.

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/155115206169?

eBay

XFX Radeon RX 6600 8GB Speedster SWFT210 GPU | 1yr Warranty, Fast S...

AMD Radeon RX 6600 GPU. It will fit in most standard ATX or MicroATX cases. It may not fit in a mini-ITX or pre-built (Dell, HP, etc) case, depending on how the case is built. Stress tested using punishing benchmarks to ensure stability under load.

tough plinth Jul 5, 2024, 3:13 AM

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odd siren 5700XT at $120 is untouchable

where?

random walrus Jul 5, 2024, 3:17 AM

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Used

tough plinth Jul 5, 2024, 9:14 PM

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which brand of 6600 is best? if it doesnt matter much, which ones should i avoid?

raven wharf Jul 6, 2024, 4:18 AM

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tough plinth which brand of 6600 is best? if it doesnt matter much, which ones should i avoid...

XFX and Sapphire are generally the go-to for Radeon cards

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i had an asrock 6700XT last year that treated me well after I sorted out some driver issues

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maybe avoid MSI if you could? ive heard mixed things about their radeon cards iirc, ask someone more knowledgeable if you like

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generally whatever is cheapest should probably be fine, run it by someone here if you want to double check

random walrus Jul 6, 2024, 5:27 AM

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tough plinth which brand of 6600 is best? if it doesnt matter much, which ones should i avoid...

For a 6600 I'd say the cheapest one

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Also at ~$30 more a 6650xt might be the better buy

maiden lava Jul 6, 2024, 12:03 PM

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Is GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER GAMING OC 16G good? I read a lot bad reviews about it

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Just bought mine for 750&

odd siren Jul 6, 2024, 12:05 PM

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For 750 yes

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Use an anti-sag stand or something makeshift to prop it up

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Gigabyte has problems with sag on their cards

maiden lava Jul 6, 2024, 12:21 PM

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It is very big. Any suggest for vertical mount kit for that big boy?

odd siren Jul 6, 2024, 12:22 PM

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$7 amazon magnetic stick

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Oh vertical mount

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Ezdiy-fab is nice

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Cooler master vertical mount v3 kinda nice too

tough plinth Jul 6, 2024, 3:22 PM

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random walrus Also at ~$30 more a 6650xt might be the better buy

its only like 15% performance though right?

random walrus Jul 6, 2024, 3:27 PM

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I wanna say more but not quite sure

raven wharf Jul 6, 2024, 5:05 PM

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tough plinth its only like 15% performance though right?

if you can fit it into your budget it may be worth spending the extra for it

tough plinth Jul 6, 2024, 5:08 PM

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im on a pretty tight budget unfortunatly

raven wharf Jul 6, 2024, 5:09 PM

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if you cant strech 6600 is a solid card for its price

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there is always the used market too

tough plinth Jul 6, 2024, 5:11 PM

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i really wanna avoid the used market tbh

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i dont wanna risk the part just not working

vital oriole Jul 6, 2024, 5:43 PM

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used is fine

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i mean new parts have a chance to not work too

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it's just how it is

hasty monolith Jul 6, 2024, 6:15 PM

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I cant find hags on windows 10 with my 6800xt

tough plinth Jul 6, 2024, 9:28 PM

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is gigabyte 6600 eagle good compared to other 6600s?

raven wharf Jul 7, 2024, 1:47 AM

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tough plinth is gigabyte 6600 eagle good compared to other 6600s?

I’ve heard mixed things about gigabyte cards, again, likely whatever is cheapest or looks the best to you should be fine

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I paid the premium for a XFX 6950 XT over the “Founders” version from AMD since I liked the look and design of the card better

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I bet if I got the cheaper one it would of been just fine as well

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Narrow it down to like 2 and look at reviews for those specific cards if you want to learn more about them if you are unsure

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I remember since I loved the look of the XFX 6950 so much I was looking at videos and articles about it for months beforehand

keen nacelle Jul 7, 2024, 2:08 AM

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raven wharf I paid the premium for a XFX 6950 XT over the “Founders” version from AMD since ...

The reference is actually kinda mid

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Specifically the stock pads

tough plinth Jul 7, 2024, 2:23 AM

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how is the titan xp?

raven wharf Jul 7, 2024, 3:53 AM

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tough plinth how is the titan xp?

a 4060 beats it, and the 4060 isnt great

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also its on an old architecure, better off with getting smth from 30 series or 6000 series or higher

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what is your budget and currency for just your gpu, and are you able to buy it like rn if you could/wanted to

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and are you sticking to new

random walrus Jul 7, 2024, 4:38 AM

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tough plinth is gigabyte 6600 eagle good compared to other 6600s?

Just get the cheapest 6600

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If you spend any more than the cheapest model you'll see a much bigger gain by going to the cheapest 6650xt/6600xt

odd siren Jul 7, 2024, 4:38 AM

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tough plinth is gigabyte 6600 eagle good compared to other 6600s?

Can be excellent, but not worth more than $10 over an alternative

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Just don't get a Mech MSI one

random walrus Jul 7, 2024, 4:39 AM

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odd siren Just don't get a Mech MSI one

I think even those are alright for a low powered card iirc

odd siren Jul 7, 2024, 4:39 AM

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All the 2 fan ones are more than sufficient

odd siren Jul 7, 2024, 4:39 AM

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random walrus I think even those are alright for a low powered card iirc

Kenzie haunts my nightmares with the hardware that was abused in their hands

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Mech is still kinda bleh even on 6600 💀

random walrus Jul 7, 2024, 4:41 AM

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Good news

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Cheapest 6600s are not mech, and include the eagle

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odd siren Jul 7, 2024, 4:47 AM

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Well at the cheapest price it's the best imo

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The only 3 fan

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Cooler at a similar size (Not cooler density) to the 6700XT variant

random walrus Jul 7, 2024, 4:48 AM

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yeah I'd take it over the challenger D. not a bad 2 fan card by any means but they're the same price

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also the challenger backplate is so ugly edit: maybe not all models?

odd siren Jul 7, 2024, 4:49 AM

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Challenger is like the real cheap option beyond mech

random walrus Jul 7, 2024, 4:49 AM

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yup, here's the 6600 one

odd siren Jul 7, 2024, 4:49 AM

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Good card but asrock has trouble silk screening the core

random walrus Jul 7, 2024, 4:49 AM

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odd siren Jul 7, 2024, 4:49 AM

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Mhm

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It's functional btw

random walrus Jul 7, 2024, 4:50 AM

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yeah better flow through

odd siren Jul 7, 2024, 4:50 AM

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The right side has flow through, also the edge around the front allows for better ventilation

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It's functionally smart for being cheap, they just can't silk screen paste properly over at asrock kekw

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Ask @wanton edge he has one of those coolers

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Iirc

random walrus Jul 7, 2024, 4:52 AM

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eagle is a great looking card imo. Surprised it's the cheapest rn

odd siren Jul 7, 2024, 4:58 AM

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It runs like completely MPT unlocked at some 60-70C

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It's a very good cooler

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Don't expect an amazing bin from it though

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It's just very quiet

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Ironically way overbuilt when they had 2 fan Eagle 3060's at the time

random walrus Jul 7, 2024, 5:00 AM

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that sounds a bit like my previous card, which was a gigabyte 3 fan 2060 ("windforce" I think). Never was able to OC very well but super quiet

tough plinth Jul 7, 2024, 3:32 PM

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what is bin and oc?

random walrus Jul 7, 2024, 3:36 PM

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Oc: overclock
Bin: some chips of the same sku/model are slightly better than others and/or will overclock better than others

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Manufacturers use the best parts of the silicon to make the high tier products, like i9/r9 cpus and xx90/x900 gpus. The silicon that isn't quite good enough for that will become a step lower, like an i7/r7 or xx80/x800

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Some of those lower binned chips might just need a bit more voltage or something than is within spec for the manufacturer, so by fiddling with it yourself you can get a decent performance increase

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Other binned chips will just run as intended for the product they end up in and won't have as much OC headroom

tough plinth Jul 7, 2024, 3:48 PM

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ty

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how big of a difference is there between 5700 and 6600?

random walrus Jul 7, 2024, 6:12 PM

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~~6600 is a little faster I think~~, probably pretty close though

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Oh this says 5700 is faster

tough plinth Jul 8, 2024, 2:22 AM

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ty

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how does bro have a freaking febuary 2023 list in the year 2022 💀

raven wharf Jul 8, 2024, 2:25 AM

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tough plinth how does bro have a freaking febuary 2023 list in the year 2022 💀

pinned and hasnt been updated in awhile

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imo just get a 6600, its on a newer architecture and will be supported longer

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a good deal on a 5700 XT may be good, but if i had to pick between 6600 and 5700 non xt, 6600 easy

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https://www.amazon.com/PowerColor-Fighter-Radeon-6600-Graphics/dp/B09H3PY14M/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.tqesbq3VLdicXLc3oC1fTKQwRsnctO8jhEjsINnZTDZB71n6XKAzmKbcaWAjuGjI7HOCsbJ9AA2tT0f2NvpvcFJn5_K4ZeWmB1z1c5v0V3cUAOBKyP7KDzK1wKv3YO9-z-LWHCOiILxDOfDnYnmjqZR98HlEL1APdw7rjIGN9pNZ2FXO7f9uNY3XyB51T1jtz5A2tYa4QW5Gq19VCfrb8q9GgFIGzkOBMXp3H1cDtfE.Pytr6io2XP-TVYavvLeaV7hH5ssyFi6NBw1IqTRSHcE&dib_tag=se&keywords=rx%2B6600&qid=1720405955&sr=8-1&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/XFX-Speedster-Radeon-Graphics-RX-66XL8LFDQ/dp/B09HHLX543/ref=sr_1_2?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.tqesbq3VLdicXLc3oC1fTKQwRsnctO8jhEjsINnZTDZB71n6XKAzmKbcaWAjuGjI7HOCsbJ9AA2tT0f2NvpvcFJn5_K4ZeWmB1z1c5v0V3cUAOBKyP7KDzK1wKv3YO9-z-LWHCOiILxDOfDnYnmjqZR98HlEL1APdw7rjIGN9pNZ2FXO7f9uNY3XyB51T1jtz5A2tYa4QW5Gq19VCfrb8q9GgFIGzkOBMXp3H1cDtfE.Pytr6io2XP-TVYavvLeaV7hH5ssyFi6NBw1IqTRSHcE&dib_tag=se&keywords=rx+6600&qid=1720405955&sr=8-2

PowerColor Fighter AMD Radeon RX 6600 Graphics Card with 8GB GDDR6 ...

PowerColor Fighter AMD Radeon RX 6600 Graphics Card with 8GB GDDR6 Memory

XFX Speedster SWFT 210 Radeon RX 6600 CORE Gaming Graphics Card wit...

The Speedster series exemplifies a modern aerodynamic style though clean and elegant design. It is a thoughtful design with the sole purpose of maximizing airflow to improve cooling and performance.

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either of those would be perfectly fine

random walrus Jul 8, 2024, 3:51 AM

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cheaper+better cooler
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/G9ytt6/gigabyte-radeon-rx-6600-8-gb-eagle-video-card-gv-r66eagle-8gd

Gigabyte EAGLE Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card (GV-R66EAGLE-8GD) - P...

Gigabyte EAGLE Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card (GV-R66EAGLE-8GD)

tough plinth Jul 8, 2024, 1:58 PM

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im buying used now

random walrus Jul 8, 2024, 8:14 PM

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A friends' GPU stopped working suddenly, no signal at all, and he already tried different monitors/cables/ports.
He brought it to me to see if I could work on it at all, so I put it into my second pcie slot and plugged it into my second monitor. I'm also not getting any signal and it isn't showing up in device manager nor the nvidia app. Not sure where to go next so please ping if you have any ideas, thanks!

random walrus Jul 8, 2024, 8:35 PM

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Also the fan is not spinning

livid idol Jul 8, 2024, 8:39 PM

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random walrus A friends' GPU stopped working suddenly, no signal at all, and he already tried ...

Sounds like a fuse went POP. This is the kind of thing that happens when a short happens. If he's lucky nothing but the fuse blew but it would take an expert to diagnose and repair it.

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Oh and if there's a short then plugging it in can cause irreversible damage

random walrus Jul 8, 2024, 8:41 PM

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ok, thanks. I'll tell him that.

tough plinth Jul 8, 2024, 8:47 PM

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raven wharf imo just get a 6600, its on a newer architecture and will be supported longer

is new architecture a big deal?

livid idol Jul 8, 2024, 9:33 PM

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In this case, not really

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But in theory you'll get driver support longer on a newer GPU

terse pike Jul 9, 2024, 2:18 AM

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This might be the wrong channel to ask this, but i have a 3090ti that is water cooled, i recently upgraded the thermal pads in the water block, when doing so i didn't realize the CPU on the graphics card was not touching the thermal paste (due to the thicker thermal pads). Now when plugging in the Display cord i get no response from the GPU, what are my best options for trouble shooting?

forest oasis Jul 9, 2024, 2:50 AM

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tough plinth how does bro have a freaking febuary 2023 list in the year 2022 💀

because you can edit a message

tough plinth Jul 9, 2024, 2:53 AM

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i know lol, it just looked silly

forest oasis Jul 9, 2024, 2:53 AM

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terse pike This might be the wrong channel to ask this, but i have a 3090ti that is water c...

btw the die on the graphics card is still called the gpu; it's not a cpu
and there is a chance that the gpu might just be dead, im not sure though on how you would troubleshoot that exactly

forest oasis Jul 9, 2024, 2:53 AM

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tough plinth i know lol, it just looked silly

lol

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yeah a little bit

raven wharf Jul 9, 2024, 4:17 AM

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livid idol In this case, not really

@tough plinth when i mentioned newer architected, falcie said what i meant, it will technically be supported longer

tough plinth Jul 9, 2024, 2:01 PM

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ohhh ok ty

drowsy mirage Jul 10, 2024, 5:38 AM

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So, going back to my previous issues with my gpu, ATX 3.0 PSU solved heat problems, stability problems, and performance issues across the board.

odd siren Jul 10, 2024, 7:11 AM

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drowsy mirage So, going back to my previous issues with my gpu, ATX 3.0 PSU solved heat proble...

Really??

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This was the intel cpu yes

naive bane Jul 10, 2024, 7:48 AM

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I want da 4090 so bad T.T

odd siren Jul 10, 2024, 8:05 AM

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naive bane I want da 4090 so bad T.T

As a 4090 owner, I prefer the XTX in my other rig....lol

naive bane Jul 10, 2024, 8:14 AM

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odd siren As a 4090 owner, I prefer the XTX in my other rig....lol

y?

odd siren Jul 10, 2024, 8:15 AM

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naive bane y?

I paid half the price for the XTX and I get near 4090 perf

sharp trellis Jul 10, 2024, 8:49 AM

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Yo Dr feet

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just want to say my 7900xt is stable after 3 hours of gaming on cyberpunk 2077

odd siren Jul 10, 2024, 8:57 AM

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Nice man. So all going well?

limber flax Jul 10, 2024, 10:27 AM

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Dr feet is crazy 💀

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~~just call him an orthopedic~~

odd siren Jul 10, 2024, 10:28 AM

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limber flax Dr feet is crazy 💀

I'm a dentist

limber flax Jul 10, 2024, 10:29 AM

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Damn

sharp trellis Jul 10, 2024, 1:25 PM

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odd siren Nice man. So all going well?

Yes. No hard crashes or anything at all

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Rt ultra 60 FPS

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100 FPS ultra settings

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I'm okay with it. Story was enjoyable

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Also I noticed the Hotspot temps

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It's much better compared to merc 310

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Hwinfo64 reported 63C hotspot while i was playing Cyberpunk 2077

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However something unexpected to the 79xt and it went away with reinstalling driver with touch of DDU

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I have three monitors and they all work, so I unplugged 3rd monitor to test PS5's input. played for 30 minutes. took it off. Screens flicker (i think thats normal when you plug it in)

But the #2 and #3 didnt come on while being plugged in, only main monitor came on. I couldnt use AMD adrenlin software. Opening up Device manager it revealed display adapter is Mircosoft Basic Adapter. So did the usual, DDU then Driver only AMD graphics driver and it was fine again.

odd siren Jul 10, 2024, 1:37 PM

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That's...odd

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Both my XTX's never did that with triple screen

sharp trellis Jul 10, 2024, 2:36 PM

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Yeah for sure it's odd but it's still working as expected and I'm relieved that I don't have to RMA it

hot folio Jul 10, 2024, 3:26 PM

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limber flax ~~just call him an orthopedic~~

He’s a dentist for all but an orthopedist for me

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@odd siren best foot doctor there is

drowsy mirage Jul 10, 2024, 9:35 PM

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odd siren Really??

Yes, this is my rig with the i9 13900k that was having gpu issues

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My cpu is getting clean power and dropped from 80c in game to like 65-70

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And I actually am getting better performance out of it

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I went with the Corsair 1200W shift because I wanted the headroom

drowsy mirage Jul 11, 2024, 3:02 AM

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sharp trellis I have three monitors and they all work, so I unplugged 3rd monitor to test PS5'...

If you haven’t looked into it already, windows has a tendency to overwrite display drivers, I believe there are some work arounds on windows 10/11 home but pro allows you to edit update policies through group policy. Which is what I did

sharp trellis Jul 11, 2024, 3:03 AM

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That's perfect I'm on windows 11 pro with altasos optimizations installed

sharp trellis Jul 11, 2024, 3:03 AM

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drowsy mirage If you haven’t looked into it already, windows has a tendency to overwrite displ...

I'll go do that group policy so it don't pull a amd failure jump scare ever again.
Thanks

drowsy mirage Jul 11, 2024, 3:04 AM

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Np

livid idol Jul 11, 2024, 3:26 AM

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sharp trellis I'll go do that group policy so it don't pull a amd failure jump scare ever agai...

Gpedit only works if you have Pro Windows or higher feature tiers, just fyi. If you have Home Edition it won't work.

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If you do have Pro then the key you want is: Local Computer Policy > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update > Managed Updates Offered from Windows Update > Do not include drivers with Windows Updates > set Enabled

odd siren Jul 11, 2024, 4:39 AM

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drowsy mirage My cpu is getting clean power and dropped from 80c in game to like 65-70

That is actually really interesting. What was the old psu?

limber flax Jul 11, 2024, 4:41 AM

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Imagine thermaltake smart

drowsy mirage Jul 11, 2024, 4:59 AM

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odd siren That is actually really interesting. What was the old psu?

asus Thor 1000w

odd siren Jul 11, 2024, 5:00 AM

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That's like, top tier unit vs top tier unit

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The hell

drowsy mirage Jul 11, 2024, 5:00 AM

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Im gonna blame the transient power spikes degrading the psu and causing it to have unstable voltage delivery

odd siren Jul 11, 2024, 5:00 AM

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Maybe thor needs a rereview??

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Hmmm

odd siren Jul 11, 2024, 5:00 AM

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drowsy mirage Im gonna blame the transient power spikes degrading the psu and causing it to ha...

Oh do you use one or two eps

drowsy mirage Jul 11, 2024, 5:00 AM

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two

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i can send the old unit if you were interested in testing it

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it worked fine with the 3080Ti though which is weird, the temps for the cpu were going up though over time

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they dropped back to where they were when the psu was new with the atx 3.0 unit

odd siren Jul 11, 2024, 5:08 AM

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drowsy mirage i can send the old unit if you were interested in testing it

Appreciate the offer but I'm in Australia mate

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Haha

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I'd enjoy messing with a thor, if only

drowsy mirage Jul 11, 2024, 5:08 AM

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Is it just a pain to ship something due to customs?

odd siren Jul 11, 2024, 5:09 AM

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drowsy mirage it worked fine with the 3080Ti though which is weird, the temps for the cpu were...

Very very interesting behaviour though, maybe the Thor EPS were degrading/one was

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I've seen what dirty power does, so I kinda believe the assumption you're making

drowsy mirage Jul 11, 2024, 5:12 AM

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Yeah, I could do some testing on it and identify if/which cables are causing the issues. If its the EPS then I could use it in another system. My girlfriends old pc has an 8th gen i7 which I could try to turn into a local server or HT pc

odd siren Jul 11, 2024, 6:06 AM

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drowsy mirage Yeah, I could do some testing on it and identify if/which cables are causing the...

I mean it definitely has me interested tbh, I genuinely wonder if it's a warranty-worthy behaviour

heady plover Jul 12, 2024, 10:13 AM

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Am I allowed to ask for help here or do I have to do it in the post maker channel?

royal copper Jul 12, 2024, 1:12 PM

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You can ask

grave fjord Jul 12, 2024, 7:30 PM

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really trying to decied right now for my $1500 bulid what would be more optimal to get the 4070 ti super or the 7900xt or 7900 gre

keen nacelle Jul 12, 2024, 7:38 PM

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grave fjord really trying to decied right now for my $1500 bulid what would be more optimal ...

7900 gre is best value

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7900xt would be better value than the ti super

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And still good value

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$50 over budget
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/s8dNt7

Part List - AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, Radeon RX 7900 XT, Phanteks XT PRO...

Part List - AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, Radeon RX 7900 XT, Phanteks XT PRO ULTRA ATX Mid Tower

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Cheaper, either drop gpu to 7900 gre, or cpu to 7600 and either use stock cooler or whatever $15-25 tower cooler you like (evo dark from thermalright is great)

grave fjord Jul 12, 2024, 7:50 PM

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keen nacelle $50 over budget https://pcpartpicker.com/list/s8dNt7

alright thank you

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ill probably go with this but I already have a mobo

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its tell me this - The MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard supports the AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor with BIOS version 7D75v13. If the motherboard is using an older BIOS version, updating the BIOS will be necessary to support the CPU.

keen nacelle Jul 12, 2024, 7:54 PM

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grave fjord its tell me this - The MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard supports t...

The mobo is pretty costly and doesn't offer a performance benefit over the b650 eagle ax or b650-p wifi, but it shouldn't be an issue

grave fjord Jul 12, 2024, 7:54 PM

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I got it on sale

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for like $94

keen nacelle Jul 12, 2024, 8:02 PM

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grave fjord I got it on sale

oh dope

grave fjord Jul 12, 2024, 11:19 PM

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7950x3d for $250

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or 7800x3d for $280

keen nacelle Jul 12, 2024, 11:26 PM

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grave fjord 7950x3d for $250

Any day of the week

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Where you getting these prices?

grave fjord Jul 12, 2024, 11:29 PM

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facebook marketplace

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they're used

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which i dont mind

keen nacelle Jul 12, 2024, 11:40 PM

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Just make sure they work before you purchase

grave fjord Jul 12, 2024, 11:44 PM

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how would I confirm that

keen nacelle Jul 12, 2024, 11:45 PM

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grave fjord how would I confirm that

Ask for a video with it working

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Though I can't really be one to talk, I bought five parts used w/o proof and the mobo is dead

grave fjord Jul 12, 2024, 11:46 PM

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well

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if i use G&S and that does happen I should be fine

keen nacelle Jul 13, 2024, 6:35 PM

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Hey @odd siren

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When we were talking about my gpu the other day I forgot one detail

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When my pc freezes, the power button doesn't work either

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The only way to shut it off is holding it

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Which makes me question whether or not it's the gpu

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It's various times, just now I turned my pc on, opened discord and valorant, the icons showed up at the bottom and then couldn't do anything else, couldn't even see the apps, but my cursor could move

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Before it's happened multiple hours into a gaming session

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It honestly sounds like ram to me, but there's no reason it would be having issues

junior locust Jul 13, 2024, 6:47 PM

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I might get ridiculed for it but

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I think the 4090 is overkill if you don't do content creation and/or streaming

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Only for gaming it's just crazy

keen nacelle Jul 13, 2024, 8:00 PM

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junior locust I think the 4090 is overkill if you don't do content creation and/or streaming

Even then it's a stupid purchase imo, unless you get paid very, very well for said content creation

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Unless workstation based or that, I would never spend $650 for a 30% difference

wicked hound Jul 13, 2024, 11:58 PM

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keen nacelle Which makes me question whether or not it's the gpu

I mean, can GPU driver crashes cause OS halts? I feel like it can with edge cases but idk.

raven wharf Jul 14, 2024, 12:04 AM

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junior locust I think the 4090 is overkill if you don't do content creation and/or streaming

valid opinion

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i think each gpu maker should have a halo product going forward for those who will buy, but instead focus on making the entry-mid range actually good

brittle trench Jul 14, 2024, 2:18 AM

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4090 the content gpu

junior locust Jul 14, 2024, 4:07 AM

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keen nacelle Even then it's a stupid purchase imo, unless you get paid very, very well for sa...

Arguably true, I'm just saying that the 4090 can make sense, but not for gaming

keen nacelle Jul 14, 2024, 4:30 AM

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junior locust Arguably true, I'm just saying that the 4090 can make sense, but not for gaming

i thought you were saying what i said

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yes 4090 has valid reasons

wheat crag Jul 14, 2024, 6:00 AM

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keen nacelle When my pc freezes, the power button doesn't work either

I’ve had that issue before on unstable ram overclock

keen nacelle Jul 14, 2024, 6:13 AM

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that's what i thought

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but nah

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 7:49 AM

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upgraded from a 3080ti to 4090 surpime liquid x, made sure to uninstall previous drivers using DDU and clean install the new ones. I notice in some games, specifically UE5 I believe, that around 5 or so minutes in my pc starts freezing completely, or getting like 5 fps. Not just in game, but after that it appears to run normally. There are also some games that randomly start freezing for a second or two and then are back to normal, any ideas what the issue could be from that?

wheat crag Jul 14, 2024, 8:17 AM

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mellow glen upgraded from a 3080ti to 4090 surpime liquid x, made sure to uninstall previous...

Gpu overheating perhaps

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U should send the specs of ur pc

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 8:19 AM

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wheat crag Gpu overheating perhaps

def not overheating, temps stay <50

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4090, 7900x3d, x670e asus crosshair MB

wheat crag Jul 14, 2024, 8:23 AM

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@mellow glen if the software was running fine with the 3080 ti the gpu may be defective (just a guess)

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I’d reinstall drivers to see if it fixes it

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 8:32 AM

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wheat crag <@198650738979766272> if the software was running fine with the 3080 ti the gpu ...

anything that could have hypothetically went wrong during install as an explanation ? was gonna go back through and make sure all connections are ok. I also notice when this happens the GPU loses wattage, from my UPS when I am in game I would pull ~5-600ish from my entire setup, when this happens it drops to 280-300.

wheat crag Jul 14, 2024, 8:44 AM

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@mellow glen first question: likely not. What wattage is your psu and id try undervolting it for now that might help

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That could also explain the frame drops and freezes bc of the sudden wattage drops

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 8:44 AM

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wheat crag <@198650738979766272> first question: likely not. What wattage is your psu and i...

1000w

wheat crag Jul 14, 2024, 8:45 AM

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My guess is that the gpu clocks down when it reaches 600w for a certain amount of time bc it’s only a 240mm rad

wheat crag Jul 14, 2024, 8:45 AM

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mellow glen 1000w

Not a psu issue then

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 8:45 AM

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also saw some conflicting info... the psu supplies 2x pcie cables, which has daisy chain connectors so unsure if that has anything to do with it

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hmmm the weird thing is that it only happens on startup in the case of UE5

wheat crag Jul 14, 2024, 8:46 AM

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Does ue5 have to install shaders?

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If so that’s prob why

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 8:47 AM

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let me rephrase, it only occurs after 5ish minutes so not startup. doesnt matter what I am doing in game though, could be idling in main menu could be in game

wheat crag Jul 14, 2024, 8:47 AM

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wheat crag My guess is that the gpu clocks down when it reaches 600w for a certain amount o...

Ignore this, I misread 600w as the gpu power draw

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 8:48 AM

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wheat crag Ignore this, I misread 600w as the gpu power draw

gotcha

wheat crag Jul 14, 2024, 8:48 AM

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mellow glen let me rephrase, it only occurs after 5ish minutes so not startup. doesnt matter...

Sorry but im not sure what’s wrong tbh

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One of the techies with the yellow names might be able to help

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 8:49 AM

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wheat crag Sorry but im not sure what’s wrong tbh

No worries, was wondering if anyone had a similar experience or if these were common symptoms of something obvious.

wheat crag Jul 14, 2024, 8:49 AM

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mellow glen also saw some conflicting info... the psu supplies 2x pcie cables, which has dai...

Has long u used two separate pcie cables it’s fine

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 8:51 AM

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wheat crag Has long u used two separate pcie cables it’s fine

2 separate cables, but 2x 8 pin on each cable since 4090 requires all 4

wheat crag Jul 14, 2024, 8:51 AM

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I just googled ue5 4090 lags and it says it’s normal sorta

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Ue5 pushes the 4090

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A lot

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 8:52 AM

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lag is one thing but this is SEVERE stuttering and system halting

wheat crag Jul 14, 2024, 8:52 AM

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Ram?

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 8:53 AM

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64gb ddr5 (2x32)

wheat crag Jul 14, 2024, 8:55 AM

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Try downloading msi afterburner and lowering the core clock speed

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Might fix it

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 8:55 AM

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wheat crag Try downloading msi afterburner and lowering the core clock speed

how much?

wheat crag Jul 14, 2024, 8:55 AM

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Just lower it down to the lowest to see if it fixes it first

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Then raise it back up in increments of 10 then 20

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 9:03 AM

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did not fix, was -500 clock. while this happened GPU load% went from ~80 to 0.

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temps dont spike, fans dont stop spinning, power drops

wheat crag Jul 14, 2024, 9:06 AM

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@mellow glen r u sure u have enough ram then? That’s the last thing I could think of

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 9:06 AM

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100%, nothing other than the gpu changed since the issue started

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which was immediate

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could run memtest to check if there are stability issues

wheat crag Jul 14, 2024, 9:07 AM

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U can download furnark to stress test your gpu around 30m to see if it’s fine and working

wheat crag Jul 14, 2024, 9:07 AM

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mellow glen could run memtest to check if there are stability issues

That as well

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 9:08 AM

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really hoping there is human error somewhere rather than the gpu being defective lol

wheat crag Jul 14, 2024, 9:09 AM

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Btw make sure hot spot temps r good just in case

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 9:09 AM

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how can i check that

wheat crag Jul 14, 2024, 9:10 AM

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Hwinfo64

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Should also say on what u used to check the gpu temp before maybe

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 9:10 AM

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nvidia app + nzxt cam

wheat crag Jul 14, 2024, 9:11 AM

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Idk if those check it or log hottest temps recorded

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I think nzxt can should have the hotspot temp

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And nvidia app

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I’d download heinfo64 if do stress test tho just bc it records the highest temps reached

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https://www.hwinfo.com/download/

HWiNFO

hwinfo

Free Download HWiNFO Sofware | Installer & Portable for Windows, DOS

Start to analyze your hardware right now! HWiNFO has available as an Installer and Portable version for Windows (32/64-bit) and Portable version for DOS.

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Windows 32bit/64 bit is the one to download

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 9:16 AM

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alright, will see what hot spot is rn while it happens after launching

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 9:21 AM

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wheat crag I’d download heinfo64 if do stress test tho just bc it records the highest temps...

not the stress test, but the application where the issue occurs

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hot spot temp max was 44.5

wheat crag Jul 14, 2024, 9:22 AM

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That’s fine when idle

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 9:22 AM

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thats what it was when replicating issue

wheat crag Jul 14, 2024, 9:23 AM

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Do u have steam?

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 9:23 AM

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yeee

wheat crag Jul 14, 2024, 9:23 AM

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There’s a free version of 3dmark on there and u could run a benchmark then compare it with other 4090s

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Or u could use furmark to stress test the gpu for around 30m

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 9:24 AM

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I've done that actually, nothing out of ordinary. within margins of others according to 3dmark

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also the issue doesnt happen with that

livid idol Jul 14, 2024, 9:25 AM

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wheat crag Or u could use furmark to stress test the gpu for around 30m

Furmark can kill a 4090

wheat crag Jul 14, 2024, 9:25 AM

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Oh

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 9:25 AM

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LOL

livid idol Jul 14, 2024, 9:25 AM

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It has a tendency to make the GPU ignore power limits so fuses go pop

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 9:26 AM

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livid idol Furmark can kill a 4090

anything glaring or suggestions that you can think of ?

livid idol Jul 14, 2024, 9:26 AM

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I just got here let me catch up

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 9:26 AM

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livid idol I just got here let me catch up

no worries

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let me know if you want a video demonstration lmfao

livid idol Jul 14, 2024, 9:27 AM

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Have you installed chipset drivers

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 9:28 AM

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livid idol Have you installed chipset drivers

I believe so, did that after the issue started happening

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wheat crag Jul 14, 2024, 9:29 AM

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Idk how heat sensitive ddr5 is but if the gpu rad is an intake maybe the internal temp of the pc case got raised causing instability - I doubt it tho

livid idol Jul 14, 2024, 9:29 AM

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What model PSU

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 9:29 AM

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wheat crag Idk how heat sensitive ddr5 is but if the gpu rad is an intake maybe the interna...

the 240rad replaced the 2x rear exhaust fans I had

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it is used as exhaust

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 9:30 AM

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livid idol What model PSU

Corsair RM1000X

livid idol Jul 14, 2024, 9:30 AM

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Adapter or straight cable

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For the 12VHPWR

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 9:31 AM

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livid idol Adapter or straight cable

using the supplied adapter from MSI

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and takes 4x 8 pin connections

livid idol Jul 14, 2024, 9:32 AM

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Which ports on the PSU are you using, and did you use 4 separate cables or daisy chains

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 9:32 AM

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2x daisy chains

livid idol Jul 14, 2024, 9:32 AM

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Do not daisy chain a 4090

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Corsair cables won't melt but the voltage will be unstable

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Keep in mind each cable is specced to run at 150W

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Corsair overbuilt them so they can do 250-300W but you might lose stability

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I had similar problems with my FE 3080 ti on a RM850X and getting a dedicated cable helped. I gained score in benchmarks changing nothing but a cable.

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https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/pc-components-accessories/cp-8920284/600w-pcie-5-0-12vhpwr-type-4-psu-power-cable-cp-8920284

CORSAIR

12VHPWR Cable | 600W PCIe 5.0 Power Adapter Cable

The official CORSAIR 600W PCIe 5.0 / Gen 5 12VHPWR PSU Power Cable delivers power from CORSAIR Type-4 PSUs to the most advanced PCIe 5.0 graphics cards.

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 9:36 AM

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hmm okay, was thinking that initially which is why I mentioned conflicting info. some people say absolutely not, some people say its fine as long as the cables are supplied from PSU directly

livid idol Jul 14, 2024, 9:36 AM

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The conflicting answers are what happens when something is perfectly acceptable in theory... but in practice there's more variables that can influence results

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Another thing to double check is that your UPS is rated to output enough wattage constantly

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I just saw you had one

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 9:40 AM

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livid idol Another thing to double check is that your UPS is rated to output enough wattage...

1000w ups

livid idol Jul 14, 2024, 9:40 AM

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That'll be peak, what's the constant load rating

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If you don't know I'll check by model number

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 9:41 AM

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livid idol If you don't know I'll check by model number

CP1500PFCLCD

livid idol Jul 14, 2024, 9:45 AM

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Based on CyberPower's own charts, you'd be getting about 5-6 minutes of runtime at your load level, which suspiciously lines up with your estimated gaming time before it slows down.

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You can always test if it's the UPS by plugging straight into the wall, at least for a little bit.

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 9:49 AM

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livid idol Based on CyberPower's own charts, you'd be getting about 5-6 minutes of runtime ...

interesting... it doesnt have problems holding the 500-600w during long periods of use though, and this specific issue doesnt seem to care about the wattage, I can be mid game which is when its pulling the most power or just in the main menu when im <450w total. only thing that is constant is that its around 5ish minutes after launching the game.

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will still test that though

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and grab that cable as well

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if that doesnt fix it you thinking it could be defect?

livid idol Jul 14, 2024, 9:50 AM

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Possibly. I'd like to narrow it down a lot more first before making that call.

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 9:50 AM

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fair enough

livid idol Jul 14, 2024, 9:50 AM

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Oh are you just watching core temps or are you looking at VRAM too

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I know some of those liquid cooled GPUs don't cool the memory well

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 9:52 AM

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was watching these:

livid idol Jul 14, 2024, 9:53 AM

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Second one, Memory Junction Temperature

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 9:53 AM

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livid idol Second one, Memory Junction Temperature

was lower or very very similar to the hot spot temp

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nothing alarming or significantly differnet

livid idol Jul 14, 2024, 9:54 AM

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Ok the memory doesn't throttle until 100C so as long as it's below that

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Alright it's 3AM so I need to get to bed

mellow glen Jul 14, 2024, 9:57 AM

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livid idol Alright it's 3AM so I need to get to bed

no worries - will report back after trying those two suggestions

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should get cable tmr,

keen nacelle Jul 14, 2024, 2:44 PM

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?ddu

neat ventureBOT Jul 14, 2024, 2:44 PM

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DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

GitHub

How to use DDU

Contribute to NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards development by creating an account on GitHub.

keen nacelle Jul 14, 2024, 2:55 PM

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@odd siren I'm trying to ddu and can't find safe mode in bios

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Everything is telling me I'm on the right page

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And it's just not here

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rn_image_picker_lib_temp_885959b4-1a35-4bc8-b285-023a96277003.jpg

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Been at it for 30min and I'm losing my mind

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I want to break something

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I've turned my pc off and on over 20 times going back and forth between windows and bios I want to cry

heady turtle Jul 14, 2024, 3:56 PM

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keen nacelle <@101107951401455616> I'm trying to ddu and can't find safe mode in bios

Easiest way is the restart method within windows ime
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/start-your-pc-in-safe-mode-in-windows-92c27cff-db89-8644-1ce4-b3e5e56fe234

Start your PC in safe mode in Windows - Microsoft Support

Find out how to boot into safe mode in Windows from Settings, the sign-in screen, and a black or blank screen.

keen nacelle Jul 14, 2024, 4:08 PM

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heady turtle Easiest way is the restart method within windows ime https://support.microsoft.c...

Yeah I found that part in your ddu guide and it helped me keep my sanity

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Ty

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"Found" being used loosely

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 5:58 PM

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I’ve got this laptop with a 3060 that is capped at 210mhz and is misreading its wattage. Nvidia, msi afterburner, and gpu-z believe it’s consuming 752 watts. Laptop is plugged in and every “performance” setting is set to max and no the Gpu is not thermal throttling at all

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It’s a cool 39-40 degrees

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And it’s not like the Gpu just isn’t being stressed because games like r6 at the absolute lowest settings run at 20-40 fps

cerulean rover Jul 14, 2024, 6:08 PM

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heady plover I’ve got this laptop with a 3060 that is capped at 210mhz and is misreading its ...

What does hwinfo64 say? It kinda sounds like it doesn't have drivers rn though

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 6:08 PM

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Give me a minute to run that I havnt checked it

cerulean rover Jul 14, 2024, 6:08 PM

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I'd check if you have drivers installed first

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Low usage + no reason for throttling + low performance is usually either no drivers or bad drivers

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 6:12 PM

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Drivers couldn’t be the issue. I’ve uninstalled them and reinstalled them twice

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I’ve also reset all bios options and reset windows

cerulean rover Jul 14, 2024, 6:13 PM

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Try rolling back to an older driver version

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 6:13 PM

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Where can I find older nvidia drivers?

cerulean rover Jul 14, 2024, 6:15 PM

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I forgot where Nvidia puts it on their site, but TPU has them if you scroll down to version history and choose a stable version a couple of months old
https://www.techpowerup.com/download/nvidia-geforce-graphics-drivers/#changes-556-12-whql

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 6:16 PM

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Also on whinfo what do you want me to look for?

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Hwinfo mb

cerulean rover Jul 14, 2024, 6:17 PM

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Power draw since you brought it up before, 750w sounds crazy, and the frequency, 210mhz sounds too low unless you're idling doing nothing

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Also, if it's on a laptop, what Optimus setting do you have set?

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 6:17 PM

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Optimus?

cerulean rover Jul 14, 2024, 6:18 PM

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The fancy name they gave to whether or not to use the igpu and switching between the igpu and the dgpu

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 6:19 PM

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Ah

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I’ve tried both “hybrid” and discrete only

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Neither changes the clock speed

cerulean rover Jul 14, 2024, 6:19 PM

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Prob use discrete only for now

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Watch the clocks and open up a game and see if they increase to a normal freq

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 6:20 PM

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They don’t. I’ve checked before

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The only thing that boosts clocks is manually “overclocking” with afterburner

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But

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It doesn’t even “overclock” to its base clock rate

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And it won’t turbo above what it’s set to

cerulean rover Jul 14, 2024, 6:21 PM

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Does it let you access the voltage/frequency curve on afterburner?

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 6:21 PM

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No

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Also hwinfo also says 753 watts

cerulean rover Jul 14, 2024, 6:21 PM

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Oh great

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 6:22 PM

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cerulean rover Jul 14, 2024, 6:22 PM

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Would've liked to lock a v/f on the curve in afterburner to try to force it

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Btw have you used DDU for uninstalling drivers previously?

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 6:23 PM

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I did it with control panel the first time then did it with nvidias cleanup tool

cerulean rover Jul 14, 2024, 6:24 PM

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?ddu

neat ventureBOT Jul 14, 2024, 6:24 PM

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DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

GitHub

How to use DDU

Contribute to NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards development by creating an account on GitHub.

cerulean rover Jul 14, 2024, 6:24 PM

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Try using ddu

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 6:24 PM

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Alr

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I’ll do that then install the dated drivers

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 6:42 PM

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Trying to launch ddu does nothing

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I do have the framework installed aswell

cerulean rover Jul 14, 2024, 6:45 PM

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Boot in safe mode?

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 6:45 PM

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It is in safe mode

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Nvm I figured it out

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To extract ddu you have to launch it

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You can’t just use 7z

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 6:54 PM

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cerulean rover I forgot where Nvidia puts it on their site, but TPU has them if you scroll down...

Is this the right one for Mobile Gpus?

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installed the drivers and it still doesnt work

cerulean rover Jul 14, 2024, 7:14 PM

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Unfortunate

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Maybe something vbios related or something, I'd try to warranty it if possible at this point

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 7:27 PM

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Idk if I can 💀I’m pretty sure this laptop was bought like hardly more than two years ago

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That’s honestly really sad

cerulean rover Jul 14, 2024, 7:29 PM

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Maybe it's still in warranty? I dunno what else to try rn, maybe other people have more ideas

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 7:30 PM

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idk ill ask when i get home

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in like 5 days 💀

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 8:02 PM

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Sounds almost like an optimus system that's got the optimus bug (Stuck in iGPU no matter what)

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 8:05 PM

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no

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it is using the gpu

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and also using msi afterburner to "overclock" it works

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but it doesnt properly "boost" or "turbo" itself cuz it believes its at the 100% peak of its capability

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 8:43 PM

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So if you check hwinfo, the igpu doesn't come up at all?

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 8:44 PM

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idk

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i havnt tried but im telling you the igpu is not the issue lmao

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and the issue you described the igpu could cause is not what im experiencing

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 8:45 PM

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Sounds really familiar to a problem with an optimus laptop I just tried to help with like a week ago

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Hence me asking

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 8:45 PM

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the gpu was stuck at 210mhz and 752 power?

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 8:46 PM

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It was stuck at 210mhz yes

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Laptop would only use the igpu

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Nothing would make it switch over to dgpu preferred

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It ended up in a similar scenario, after regedits, ddu, optimus settings, forced cmd overrides, display adapter resets, etc.

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We opted for warranty

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Genuinely ran out of ideas

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If you can see it's trying to utilise one or the other then I could be a bit more conclusive about this, but it still sounds very similar

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210MHz is the idle clock for ampere

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752W will just be a readout bug

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 8:48 PM

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Yeah no. The igpu is not the issue

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It is disabled

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Not being detected in hwinfo

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 8:48 PM

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Ok

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So it has a mux then?

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 8:49 PM

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Mux?

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 8:49 PM

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Mux means a discrete complete disable of the igpu to boost dgpu performance

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 8:49 PM

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Ah

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Yeah

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 8:49 PM

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You can know by googling the name of the laptop

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It will say in the product advertising

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Costs extra to have one

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Only other thing I can think of is a complete wipe and reinstall of windows or using nvflash to redo the vbios off the top of my head

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 8:52 PM

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Done a reinstall of windows

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 8:52 PM

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Using device manager to disable/reenable may also work

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 8:52 PM

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heady plover Done a reinstall of windows

Reset is not a wipe

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Reset carries over registry errors

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 8:53 PM

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Vbios flash COULD void warranty even though that’s technically not legal

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 8:53 PM

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They'd never know

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If you flash the same vbios on it, they'd never know

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 8:53 PM

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They would if I messed it up or if it just unluckily bricks itself

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 8:53 PM

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I would be surprised if that happened

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Usually the nvflash will pop up if there's something really amiss

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It will write but not complete if it detects a mismatch or error

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 8:54 PM

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odd siren Reset carries over registry errors

I have wiped the m.2 drive from everything and did a fresh install of windows

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 8:54 PM

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Ok good

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Did you check the bios to see if discrete gpu was enabled

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 8:55 PM

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Yes

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Although I could’ve missed something in the bios cuz this msi laptop bios highkey sucks

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The categorization is kinda bad

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 8:55 PM

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Ironically enough, the optimus issue on the other laptop was an msi laptop...

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 8:56 PM

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shrug

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When they work they’re pretty good but they have some of the weirdest bugs

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 8:56 PM

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Seems to maybe still have something in common here

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Which msi is it

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 8:57 PM

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Ge76 raider

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 9:06 PM

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odd siren Using device manager to disable/reenable may also work

Quick google of similar specs gives this answer or a broken mosfet

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 9:06 PM

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MOSFET is a physical component right?

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Meaning hardware issue?

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 9:07 PM

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Also try nvidia driver 462.21 specifically

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 9:07 PM

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Ok

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 9:07 PM

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heady plover MOSFET is a physical component right?

It's a power delivery chip for the gpu

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 9:07 PM

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Yikes

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 9:07 PM

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Usually if one fails it should still work

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So I'm doubting

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 9:07 PM

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Ah

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 9:07 PM

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Unless there's, very few

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Like 3

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Lol

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Which it won't be

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On a gpu like this at 145w tdp it'll be minimum 6 or min 250A

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 9:08 PM

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dang

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 9:08 PM

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But your exact laptop

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Exact problem

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Someone tried 462.21 and got it to work

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Ddu first

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 9:10 PM

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Where would I be able to find 462.21? I only see 465.89 then 461.92 on tpu

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 9:11 PM

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Try
https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/172695/en-us/

NVIDIA Studio Driver | 462.31 | Windows 10 64-bit | NVIDIA

Download the English (US) NVIDIA Studio Driver for Windows 10 64-bit systems. Released 2021.4.14

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 9:12 PM

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Does it matter than I’m on windows 11v

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?

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 9:12 PM

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Shouldn't

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 9:12 PM

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ok

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 9:13 PM

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Win 11 is just win 10 with a mask, as is win 10 being win 7 with a mask

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Someone also suggested that geforce experience could be the culprit forcing minimum power

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Don't install gfe

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 9:14 PM

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the one you sent me is 462.31 and the one you said is 462.21

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and i never had GE installed

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i do have the nvidia beta app which might be the same thing?

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so i wont install it this time

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So do I need .31 or .21

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 9:18 PM

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.31 will be basically the same as .21 but with a hotfix

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 9:18 PM

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Mk

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 9:18 PM

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This one was also targeted at msi laptops specifically from nvidia
https://www.guru3d.com/download/geforce-466-55-hotfix-driver-download/

www.guru3d.com

GeForce 466.55 Hotfix driver download

Download GeForce 466.55 hotfix drivers. The hotfix addresses the following issues with 4K UHD TVs and 4K @ 120Hz display modes....

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Getting a lot of results now that I have the laptop name

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Common result is not to install GFE

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GFE seems to be very commonly related to this boost lock issue

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3060 specifically

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 9:19 PM

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I’m guessing the nvidia app is just a reskin of GFE?

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 9:20 PM

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Pretty much

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Control panel is fine

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You need that one

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Rollback of bios is suggested

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Fixed someone with the same issue

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 9:20 PM

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Bios or vbios?

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 9:20 PM

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Bios

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 9:20 PM

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I don’t have a usb on me

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 9:20 PM

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Fast startup may also do something

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 9:20 PM

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So I’d need to do that tommorow

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 9:21 PM

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heady plover I don’t have a usb on me

Download straight to C drive

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 9:21 PM

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Does that work?

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I thought you needed to flash it with a usb lmao

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 9:21 PM

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I do it all the time

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The manufacturers do it with their apps lol

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 9:22 PM

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odd siren Only other thing I can think of is a complete wipe and reinstall of windows or u...

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You'd need a fresh vbios off of tpu

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Exact clone

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 9:22 PM

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I’ll try that out when I get home

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 9:23 PM

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Disabling low fan mode or "whisper mode" works apparently

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Msi center or gfe

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 9:25 PM

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Yeah so 462.31 doesn’t work with either my version of windows or my Gpu

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which makes sense

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its for 20 series cards

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 9:27 PM

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I looked up 3060 on the nvidia website for that one

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It's compatible

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What's happened is it's not detecting the gpu at all

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i.e it didn't come up, it's now using the igpu

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 9:28 PM

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odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 9:28 PM

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Try plugging it into the charger, restart and try again

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 9:28 PM

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3060ti supported but not 3060

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 9:28 PM

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heady plover 3060ti supported but not 3060

They're the same die

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It'll work

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 9:30 PM

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igpu still disabled

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only 3060 shows up on hwinfo

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 9:30 PM

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It even dates to the year the gpu released so it definitely works

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 9:31 PM

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Mk

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It was already plugged in so imma restart see if it works

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 9:31 PM

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Try the other one I linked if it still doesn't detect

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Or disable/enable in device manager

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Sometimes a hard reset on the power button can fix that

heady plover Jul 14, 2024, 9:33 PM

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Should the igpu be on for this?

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Which other one that you linked?

odd siren Jul 14, 2024, 9:35 PM

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odd siren This one was also targeted at msi laptops specifically from nvidia https://www.g...

Dis