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odd siren
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Someone did the statistics in the comments and said it was 1 in 1.128 billion 60fpsKekExplode

random walrus
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the calculator I used is an even smaller chance than that I think

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either way, versus the amount of those cards sold the stats indicate it is user error

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or just straight up trolling. tbh 7 granted RMA requests seems weird to me

odd siren
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I would believe on several occasions the RMA being "approved" but nothing happens

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That sort of bs happens a lot

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You know

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"We couldn't find anything wrong"

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But they don't say that, they just quote 'Approve' it

odd siren
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I tend not to as they tend to be model or board specific. Zip ties are universal

wicked hound
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This is the precise reason I just got a Moore Threads MTT S80 and never looked back

odd siren
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Omg

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That Frankenstein ass chinese gpu

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I forgot all about it

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I bet you googled that name

wicked hound
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I knew Moore Threads, didnt know the model name

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They are my goto company for random GPU cuz they are modern company

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But most jank of the modern companies that I know of

lilac osprey
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Although reviews commonly say the included thermal glue doesn't hold

odd siren
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oh it's a heatsink

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my bad @lilac osprey

lilac osprey
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Oh, you thought it was a water block?

odd siren
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I thought it was a fan frame

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one of those fake shrouds

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yeah I'd never use a substitute heatsink unless it was like for like

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or with known backing

lilac osprey
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Oh I see

wary thorn
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Are links allowed to be posted here?

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If so then does anybody else know if there r any other gpus that r like this. Preferably around this quality or even around 7800xt performance

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I like how it's custom in a way and if there aren't any other are there trustworthy people that actually do work and paint the tops of gpus n stuff. Of course they couldn't paint every part but y'know

random walrus
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I dunno if I've seen cards like that which aren't a limited run

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AMD has done cyberpunk, starfield, and Avatar gpus but they don't make many and do them as giveaways

wary thorn
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How bad is the 6800xt compared to the 7800xt when it comes to strictly gaming setups
Cause ngl I’m rlly considering I just don’t want the performance difference to be drastic but I also understand the artwork n collaboration makes the price go up ofc

keen nacelle
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7800xt bit lower power usage, better rt, and better for streaming/some workstation tasks

marble dagger
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yo @keen nacelle do you know anything that could help me with booting windows? i just installed a new gpu on my friends pc

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and it keeps crashing before booting

keen nacelle
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What gpu was it before and what's the new one?

marble dagger
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rx 550 and now its a 4060

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and yeah it was working with the 550

keen nacelle
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What's the power supply?

marble dagger
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some evga non-modular 600w

keen nacelle
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Model + wattage if possible

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OOOH

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Pls tell me not evga W1-3 or evga n1-3

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If so that is your issue

marble dagger
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see i have no idea which one it is

keen nacelle
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Those are literal bombs

marble dagger
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so one sec

keen nacelle
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Like burn house down, PGM type bombs

marble dagger
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ok

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dumb questionm

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but

keen nacelle
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Ye?

marble dagger
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the psu has a ton of cables coming out of it, is that non modular or semi

keen nacelle
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Non

marble dagger
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ok

keen nacelle
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If there's only a few cables it's semi

marble dagger
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gotcha

keen nacelle
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It should say it on the side facing the outside when you take the side panel off

marble dagger
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see i asked him what it said and either he didnt know where to look or it just didnt say anything

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well

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anything right

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ok so its not the evga n1-3

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because

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im pretty sure those have colored looking cables

keen nacelle
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When you try to boot, what happens

marble dagger
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and his did not

keen nacelle
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Does it just black screen, blue screen, not turn on, etc

marble dagger
keen nacelle
marble dagger
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hm

keen nacelle
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But id very much suggest checking that psu

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An rx 550 consumes so little power it could be fine with that, but the 4060 could very quickly cause issues

marble dagger
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alright, ill look up how to reset cmos, thats in bios right

keen nacelle
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?cmos

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!cmos

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What is it

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It was ?

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/cmos

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Idfk

marble dagger
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cause he literally can;t get into bios most tries lol itll crash instantly

keen nacelle
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We had a command for it

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Basically there's a little silver battery on the motherboard

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There should be a tab on one of the sides

neat ventureBOT
marble dagger
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oh the circle looking one

keen nacelle
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Turn the psu off

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Oh there we go

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That was so delayed for absolutely no reason

marble dagger
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yeah looking at my pc i see the tab

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wait so

keen nacelle
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Psu has to be off though

marble dagger
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u want him to take it out, after turning the psu off

keen nacelle
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And then take it out and leave it out for around 15min

marble dagger
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and put it back in? or whats up

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ok

keen nacelle
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Then put it back in

marble dagger
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whats that supposed to do?

keen nacelle
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It resets all bios settings

marble dagger
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oh cool

keen nacelle
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Which normally a gpu wouldn't mess with, but its the only thing i can really think of atm other than psu

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Unless the gpu isn't fully in the slot

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Wait

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Display cable is plugged into the gpu, right? Not the motherboard

marble dagger
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yeah im pretty sure, we tried fixing this a week ago and it was plugged into that

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i will check tho

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hes showering rn so stand by if u can

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ill ping u if needed

livid idol
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It's possible you might need to go into windows safe mode and run DDU to get rid of the old AMD drivers, sometimes conflicts can happen causing issues like this.

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?ddu

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marble dagger
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@keen nacelle does this help identifying it

livid idol
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80 plus white

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Oh no

marble dagger
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bad psu?

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i think his friend cheaped out on certain things

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when helping him build it

livid idol
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At the very best that's an E tier unit

marble dagger
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gotcha

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he'll need a new one, modular for ease i would assume, to run a 4060? no?

keen nacelle
marble dagger
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yeah that's the one I just bought

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very happy with it so far

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but like for possibly fixing it tn, hes abt to put the cmos thingy back in

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its been almost 15 min

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what are we to look for after he does that?

keen nacelle
marble dagger
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okay

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hes doing it rn

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@keen nacelle yo he actually can get into windows now?

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but it still crashed

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however

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its way further than hes ever gotten

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like he actually got like

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1 minute into being on his desktop before it blackscreened

keen nacelle
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Honestly even turning the system on is a bad idea

marble dagger
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Oh damn

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alright

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yeah if it doesnt work again ill just tell him to replace it

wary thorn
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Can I dm someone n ask them smth abt a specific gpu n a site it’s on

vital oriole
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ask here

wary thorn
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Ok so I’m getting a 7800xt

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Almost all r above 500 n some r above 600

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I need to get the link rq but a site called classy shop is selling one for 300 which idk abt prices but when comparing it to popular sites it seems sketch with price but idk so was asking

vital oriole
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that's sketchy

wary thorn
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Also as u see in first link I’m looking at the sapphire pure but this one on their site says sapphire AMD but it has same specs and even the same number at the end

vital oriole
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id get the one from newegg

wary thorn
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But then they r selling a racer nitro 5 for 800 so its like not everything is super cheap but this one is just odd yknow

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How much does a rtx 4070 12gb go for
If u know

wary thorn
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Ok thx

wary thorn
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Yeh they selling to for 300. Also after u said that I scrolled down n they selling Rolex’s for 8k I think they claiming they have everything no matter what the product is lol thx

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Oh also can one of u review a monitor I saw yes I know wrong channel

vital oriole
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Feel free to ask

wary thorn
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Ok ima send it in monitor section tho

wary thorn
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I think all gpus r 300n not even 300 and some cash on top. Jus exactly 300 lol

wary thorn
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Would y'all trust a random tiktok store that had a 7800 xt priced at 519 with free shipping but doesn't have super professional pics for most products and everything is priced slightly below market average?

wary thorn
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Idk how to link but I can send pics would u prefer dm or here

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NVM

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Idk if it's possible to not show reviews or if he just none for any items

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He doesn't claim it's refurbished or used in anyway way and ofc price doesn't reflect used value

spare relic
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I just wouldb't on principle because it's tick tock thinkies

wary thorn
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😭

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I mean true but the price isn't super super crazy it's just odd

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I'm at the point. To where I could technically have slight cash to buy Newegg one but if this one is real it would save me a ton

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Just by the little amount of that made sense

wary thorn
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Ok thx

craggy pier
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What do yall think about the rx 590 for budget budget builds?

vital oriole
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no

spare relic
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lol

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brings me back

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I wanted an xfx 590

heady turtle
craggy pier
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Which i think is pretty damn good value for a bit less than 5k on 3dmark

spare relic
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go for a 970 on ebay or something

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around 60 shipped

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basically the same thing

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I guess 480/580 are 70 shipped as well

odd siren
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You have to work with the funny driver

spare relic
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on ebay aim for good reviewed sellers, with recent sales (last six months or newer) sort by us only, sort by price lowest to highest, choose every conditon but parts only and then the only information you need to care about is whether the title has the name of the card you searched and the seller has good reviews

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that's how you ebay gpu I think

odd siren
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I'd look for a $120 5700XT or maybe 5500XT for a bit less tbh

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Maybe used arc A750

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A 590 for 90 just sounds like a lot of pain, the $30 would be so worth it

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Or as maniac said, yeah, 970, 1060 6gb

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1070

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Etc

spare relic
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imo

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prefer newer gen

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just so you keep getting drivers from daddy nvidia for longer frfr

odd siren
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Ye

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Totally agree on that one

spare relic
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this is why I went rx 7600 🤓

heady turtle
solid glacier
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Hey do I gatta put windows on a usb stick for my brothers pc build or does it come with it already

spare relic
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if you're building a computer and it wasn't already set up you will need to

hot bough
spare relic
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just gotta create installation media on the usb drive you'll be using

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then unplug, plug it into the new computer and open up the bios to set it to boot to the flash drive, and then follow the installation process

wary thorn
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WTF is installation media

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I thought u jus built pc n then after everything was setup u jus put USB in n it would be recognized then u did everything thru monitor after that

odd siren
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Installation media is the usb

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You make it

solid glacier
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Anyone know where these go?

livid idol
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Bottom middle

solid glacier
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What about the power switch

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Got it but the

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Tower fans won’t work at all

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So the only fan working is my cpu fan

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No tower fans and no gpu gans

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Fans

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Any ideas?

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Welp

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I have no idea

lilac osprey
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I hate when those connectors are several little ones, instead of a single piece like the audio connector

raven wharf
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this was a real thing?

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if so its actually kinda sick

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a reference 6900 with a little aio on it

gray fog
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yeah

livid idol
odd siren
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Looks cool tho

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Bit of a unicorn if you find one, they weren't that common

raven wharf
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if i ever found one and i had the money and skill itd be cool to turn it into a 360mm

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i was always a big fan of the reference style 6000 cards

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the refresh 6050s i think are my favorite looking cards

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i hope for rdna4 or 5 they go back to something similar

jaunty remnant
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can anyone recommend a good gpu for this build?

keen nacelle
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Idk if we've talked about this before or not I think I recognize your name? Not sure. I would highly advise against that ram, can get much better for cheaper

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But 6750xt or 7600

jaunty remnant
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is there a huge difference between the two?

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also just wanna make sure this is the one you mean

keen nacelle
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7600 is around 15% worse and has 4gb less vram

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And yeah

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Otherwise around that price I'd look for used. That price range is really dry rn compared to 6 months ago, when we had 6700xt at 310

lime kelp
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Anyone know if there are previous drivers before 24.1.1 for the AMD 7600XT

odd siren
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23.12.1 might work

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AMD gives a couple months leeway in the lead-up to release

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Nay probably a lot of older drivers work as it's just a 7600 with more vram

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It's not really a new card at all

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24.1.1 should be the most ideal though, if there were any optimisation issues that needed addressing

lime kelp
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I bought a AMD 7600XT and replaced at Geforce 970, im having issues with this card, the screen blacks out freezes

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underperforms

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i reinsalled drivers like 3 times

heady turtle
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?ddu

neat ventureBOT
lime kelp
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Bah still getting blackscreens

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Thinking i should RMA

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Its brand spanking new

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@heady turtleAny advise?

heady turtle
lime kelp
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@heady turtlePinned message?

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Yea

heady turtle
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or the one i just linked

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you went in safe mode and all?

lime kelp
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Yea

heady turtle
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try a different driver version

lime kelp
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Did all that

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No other version

heady turtle
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there should be

lime kelp
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24.1.1 only driver out for 7600XT

heady turtle
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ah

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honestly yeah return it imo, its not a very good choice of card anyway

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basically a 7600 but with extra vram that wont be utilised

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reach for a 7700xt or get a 6700xt/6750xt tbh

lime kelp
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ok will do

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Any idea onto how to get all drivers reset back to original windows?

heady turtle
hot bough
unique relic
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I'm getting an rtx 3080 from someone I know its an evga rtx 3080 ftw3

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I want to change its thermal pads bc that person used to do mining with it and hasnt changed the pads

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which sizes should I get for this card

heady turtle
unique relic
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actually I took a pic of the inside but the card is very dirty in pic, I cleaned it after opening it

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side note I havent tested it yet however its from someone close so in case of an issue its fine but I dont think this card has issues

odd siren
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Oh woag

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3080 10g

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Is that evga

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Oh yeah you wrote it up above

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Lol I guessed it in one

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send help

unique relic
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I'll repaste the thermal paste 100% just worried about the thermal pads rn

odd siren
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Unless they are truly like, noticeably dry

unique relic
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they werent dry but the top pads are somehow like

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weird

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these

odd siren
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I know 2 people who have changed pads on evga cards and had bad mounting issues for coldplate

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Also those look, ruined

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The vram ones look ok

unique relic
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yeah but these ones need some new pads I think

odd siren
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The inductors would be ok

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But the vrm phases would need it yeah

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Sorry inductors

unique relic
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when I was cleaning the pcb and the cold plate the pads touched the ground for some I dont know if that affects these tho

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well I'll see when testing

odd siren
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I mean

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If they're pretty clean not really

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Pads exist as a reason to heat soak a minor amount of heat

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It's not a huge deal if they aren't clean

unique relic
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then it should technically be fine

odd siren
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Just not, I guess...ethical 💀

unique relic
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yeah

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so about the inductors will their temp show as hotspot

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in hwinfo

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if u have any info on that

odd siren
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They won't but there's so many phases on that card I posit that it would be ok really

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It's good practice to swap anyway

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If you do a job you may as well do a good one

unique relic
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I found sizes in evga forum for the pads however the issue is stock pads are a bit squishy

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so technically replacement pads should be similar in squishiness

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I found a brand called "pullsar ice dragon" or whatever in amazon

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17w/mk

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I dont know the brand but if its like advertised it should be enough

odd siren
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From people I know, the pad sizes given from online sources are dubious

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To my knowledge ftw3 wants really squishy pads

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Forget w/mK

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Just look for squishy af

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As I said, coldplate mounting issues

unique relic
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reviews for this ones say squishy but I have no idea

odd siren
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Neither

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Worth asking around about

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I normally use k5 pro cos it's all just way too complicated for the investment

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Tons of people would disagree with me tho, but it's just plain easy

unique relic
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so a thermal paste?

odd siren
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It's more like a putty that sets

unique relic
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ohh I see now

odd siren
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Think of it more like a play-doh constituent once it dries

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It's messy, but it's reusable 1000 times over and needs no measuring

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And it's not the best by a long way, but good enough most times

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For uh, gddr6x I'd probably say k5 pro isn't ideal

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For that I'd actually do honeywell ptm7950

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If the pads aren't to be too thick

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So like, 1mm or less

unique relic
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I also saw a rly good one from thermal grizzly however its too thin

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0.2 mm

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def wont be enough

odd siren
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Kryosheet? Yeah it's not worth

unique relic
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yes that one

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and its very expensive

odd siren
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All thermal grizzly stuff is just overpriced

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It's decent, but german manufacturing makes it expensive

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Not any better than ptm7950

unique relic
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for the sizes I found some resources but all are different

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looking at my pic 1 mm seems believable

odd siren
unique relic
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someone in evga forum said 2.25 mm for those

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yeah thats just so different

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1 and 2.25 mm

odd siren
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And probably different density pads too

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Well, as I said ask around about it, but you got a plan B from me if it don't work

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K5 pro and honeywell would be a pretty permanent solution (honeywell to the core while you're at it)

unique relic
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I didnt know about those 2 products, so thanks for those

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definitely a good alternative

odd siren
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Made my life easier for hardware so they're worth sharing lmao

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Plan C would be reuse pads but add a drop of mx-6 over each component

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Jank but adds life

unique relic
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I have an mx-6 so thats an option

odd siren
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Those pads are kinda wrecked tho so you'll need at least something new

unique relic
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yeah I plan on spending some for the thermal pads as first solution

odd siren
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The vrm/inductor ones

unique relic
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3080 is still a good card so its worth imo

odd siren
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Ye

unique relic
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I have a 2070 rn for reference

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its like 2x this card

odd siren
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Sounds...about correct ye

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Maybe more like 80%

unique relic
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ok well my cpu will bottleneck anyways but thats a worry after I get the thermal pad stuff done

odd siren
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Good luck with it

unique relic
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thanks

solid glacier
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Is the Rx 7600 better than 6700xy

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Xt

keen nacelle
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It's about on par with 6700

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Around 10% worse?

unique relic
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is thermal putty and thermal pad very different

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in a forum I saw someone saying that this card has thermal putty on VRMs so he didnt replace it

cerulean rover
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Thermal pads or putty? Lots of gpus use thermal pads to help transfer heat from the vram/vrm chips to the heat pipes that might be a couple of millimeters away and not directly touching the chip

unique relic
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I meant thermal pad*

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not paste

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yeah thats why but is thermal pad and thermal putty the same thing

random walrus
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I believe thermal putty is just a more malleable version of pads; instead of cutting to size and getting the height right you just apply it, kinda like thermal paste but thicker

solid glacier
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Is the ryzen 5 5600x better than the 5600

random walrus
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in theory it's clocked slightly higher, and might have a little more OC headroom

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but i doubt you'd notice the difference

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It also has higher power draw/runs hotter

solid glacier
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Alright jw bc I got a ryzen 5 5600 for my brother and I just picked up the 5600x

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So not sure if it’s worth changing

random walrus
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yeah this benchmark has them well within margin of error for gaming https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYiuPK_fz2A

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solid glacier
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Ag okay so liek zero difference pretty much

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I picked up the 5600x for 182$

heady turtle
carmine ivy
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Guys what happened to newegg free shipping??

livid idol
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It'll vary by item and your location, that's all we know

solid glacier
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Do these go under USB 2 and 3?

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I csnt find anywhere, to put them on the mobo

livid idol
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HD Audio goes on the bottom left

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The USB one goes on USB 2.0

solid glacier
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Bruh

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What was the point of me buying gig internet

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If my download is only 103.7mb a sec lol

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Is there a way to fix that

livid idol
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That depends on the cause of the slow speed. If it's over WiFi then I'd expect that unless you're a few feet from the router. WiFi speed drops off fast with distance and obstacles.

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I get a little more than that using powerline Ethernet, other people with better wiring have better results.

toxic sparrow
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How do I stop coil whine it seems to only happen on rocket league for some reason

odd siren
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They're completely mutually inclusive

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High fps = high coil whine

toxic sparrow
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Yea that worked but it’s strange I get high frames on other games and it dosent whine

odd siren
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Game is as old as the hills

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You're probably getting like, more than 500 fps and it's just making the card reverberate like mad

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It's the only way to fix whine

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Unless you can physically see the vibrating part and you cover that in putty

toxic sparrow
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No whine any more for some reason

raven wharf
vital oriole
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driver error

raven wharf
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how do I fix

vital oriole
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ddu and the usual reinstalling

raven wharf
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?ddu

neat ventureBOT
lofty crane
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I'm looking for 4060

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With 3 fans

keen nacelle
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At times it loses to the 3060, and it's priced the same, two years later. It's really bad value

lofty crane
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fr?

keen nacelle
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Yeah its laughably bad

lofty crane
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better to go for 3060?

keen nacelle
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Not really but one sec

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What's your budget? Fresh build or just need gpu

lofty crane
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GPU

livid idol
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Better to get a 6700 XT or 6750 XT, more comparable to a 4060 ti

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But less $$$

keen nacelle
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If you'll go amd, 7600 at 260 beats 4060 and 3060 by around 20% iirc

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6750xt around 10% better than 4060 ti I think? $15 cheaper

lofty crane
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I'm not a fan with amd gpus

keen nacelle
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There's refurb 3060 tis for $290-300 on ebay too

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30% better than 3060 12gb

lofty crane
livid idol
keen nacelle
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YO

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Grab that

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Open box direct from MSI

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$250 3060 ti

livid idol
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Ok yeah that's decent

lofty crane
keen nacelle
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That 3060 ti is best value card rn period lol

livid idol
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How long ago did you hear that? I've heard of no issues in the last few years besides the occasional bad GPU, and at a similar rate to Nvidia cards.

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Only issue was a bad cooler on the 7900 XTX but that's Biostar's fault

keen nacelle
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I do agree with fal though, amd cards are perfectly fine

keen nacelle
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Oh uk

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One sec

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Whatd you say budget for gpu was?

lofty crane
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350

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For my friend

lofty crane
#

After seeing that price for 250 i was jealous

#

I paid 450 for my GPU

#

It came with a small packet of sweets

livid idol
#

6750 XT gets more fps than the 4060 ti except in ray tracing, which the 4060 ti isn't strong enough to do anyway.

keen nacelle
#

And a better cooler

livid idol
#

Plus 12GB on AMD is already aging better

#

Several games hit the 8GB limit and start loading low res textures now, even at 1080p

#

Most recent data from HUB, the 6750 is a few fps above the 6700.

#

So the 6750 XT seems comparable to the 16GB model of the 4060 ti or 3070

#

Oh and the 3060/4060 are a good 15-20% below all of these

raven wharf
#

6800 non xt is down to 400 if you wanted to stretch that budget

#

extra vram

livid idol
#

400 pounds?

#

Oh yeah, so it is

#

Actually 376 gbp

#

It shows 402 if you're outside the UK, using a VPN to get there shows the right price

#

And that one beats the 3070 ti

raven wharf
livid idol
livid idol
raven wharf
#

ah

raven wharf
#

how can I roll back to an earlier driver

livid idol
#

You can try to use the "restore factory settings" option in the installer but they only recently fixed that, so it might not work on an older driver.

raven wharf
#

is the installer in adrenalin edition

#

i cant remember

#

cause id prefer not to do ddu

livid idol
#

The driver installer you would normally use

odd siren
raven wharf
#

gpu was under full load the whole time so maybe it was a one time thing idk

past steeple
#

Does anyone know what gpu is better than a gigabyte eagle 6700xt that can pair with a 5600g until l get a replacement for the cpu?

livid idol
#

What resolution are you playing at

fading glacier
#

there are few better than a 6700x, you are pretty much at the entry point of the top gpus

keen nacelle
#

With 5600g, you're basically maxed out. However since you're planning to upgrade cpu, it depends what you want to spend

#

You can do literally any gpu lol

fading glacier
#

at that point you can go from everything from a 6900xt or 4070s and up

past steeple
#

I am playing at 2560 x1440

keen nacelle
#

Do you alr have the 6700xt?

past steeple
#

For someone who mainly uses my pc for school, do you think it would be worth upgrading my gpu?

keen nacelle
#

Well what do you do for school

past steeple
#

Yes, l do, but l haven’t installed it into my pc yet.

keen nacelle
#

Any reason you want to replace it?

#

For gaming you'd see more of a benefit upgrading your cpu

fading glacier
#

6700xt is a pretty soilid 1440p gpu

past steeple
#

As of right now, l don’t do anything special for school. Mainly use my email, Microsoft word, and go on certain websites.

keen nacelle
#

Yeah nah no difference

#

You could be on a 1030 and you would be fine

past steeple
#

There isn’t a particular reason why l would replace it, but l built my pc when prices were pretty high for gpu’s, so l bought everything else before l bought the gpu. I eventually did when prices went down.

fading glacier
#

then as anything in life, if you cant justify it, then why wasting good money that could be used on other things?

keen nacelle
#

I'd upgrade cpu first

fading glacier
#

yupo, 6700xt is pretty solid, your cpu tho... is kinda old indeed, and newer and more powerful ones are cheaper anyway

past steeple
#

I forgot to mention that l may do some casual gaming, but l mainly use it for school.

random walrus
#

At 1440p I doubt upgrading the 5600g is worth it tbh (unless upgrading gpu as well)

#

If you don't really have a reason to upgrade now, I'd just keep what you have and save $ for an upgrade down the line

past steeple
#

Sounds good, I’ll just keep my gpu then, but what cpu do you guys think l should get? I don’t want to go too crazy on the money spent.

wary thorn
#

What's ur budget. Also can u link build

#

I currently am getting the 5 7600 which I heard was good

#

And u would be getting ur money's worth out of it but idk if u have something similar n tryna upgrade even higher

random walrus
odd siren
#

tbh

#

but you might be right

raven wharf
#

i was playing helldivers 2 earlier and it just froze then crashed

raven wharf
odd siren
#

D. D. U.

raven wharf
#

FINE

#

?ddu

neat ventureBOT
odd siren
#

Then when you're done, just jump straight in, don't change any gpu settings yet

raven wharf
#

i played 2 games and it was fine

raven wharf
#

@grim kiln would you know

#

Felix stopped responding

odd siren
#

Safe mode

raven wharf
#

ok

#

Alright I think I’ve done the hard part aka safe mode stuff

#

It is booting me back into windows

raven wharf
#

am I installing

odd siren
#

24.1.1

raven wharf
#

sorry I need my hand held on this stuff idk what im doing half the time lol

#

its a miracle my pc works at all

odd siren
#

If 24.1.1 proves an issue, go 23.12.1

raven wharf
odd siren
#

Ddu

raven wharf
#

where can I find that driver though

#

and also factory reset yes or no

odd siren
#

Can

#

You ddu'd so don't need to

raven wharf
#

ok

#

do i need to do anything

#

else afterwards

odd siren
#

Restart the pc if it asks to

#

Otherwise just game

raven wharf
#

also my u.i scale is bigger for some reason

odd siren
#

Then restart

raven wharf
#

i did

#

twice

odd siren
#

Again

#

Until it stops

#

Bro my system update popped up like 5 times asking for restart today

#

Right before I had a conference

#

Windows does windows things

odd siren
raven wharf
#

ok it didnt pop up the third

#

time

odd siren
#

Try game for a bit

#

Make sure your screen hz is maxed

#

Then go for broke

raven wharf
odd siren
#

Lmfao

#

Go play

raven wharf
#

oh

#

ok

raven wharf
#

should i go in at all and change my tuning presets

#

or just leave it

odd siren
#

Just leave it

#

Try stock for now

raven wharf
#

mk'

raven wharf
#

@odd siren idk if you are awake or not

#

but things seem to be steady

#

stock settings draw like 305 watts

#

fans are super loud and are at like 70c lol

#

beast of a card though

odd siren
#

Keep going for a while

#

If nothing happens @raven wharf then it's all good, but we can then try again with your adrenalin settings to get something more stable

flat maple
#

Im sitting good with the rtx3080 ftw3 but if I ever were to upgrade, I would want a gpu of about the same thickness

#

Not too concerned about that anyway, as that is way off, and EVGA is out of the GPU market

flat maple
#

It was a nice run with EVGA

#

Im sure there is a good second

teal cairn
#

Evga was my one and only i bought until now

hot bough
random walrus
#

Or AMD for that matter

hot bough
#

I suppose so...

junior locust
#

Would it matter for a 7800 XT whether the cooling is 2 or 3 fans?

#

Asrock Phantom Gaming OC vs Sapphire Pulse

#

the Pulse is roughly 10% cheaper

keen nacelle
#

Not too much

#

I'd take the pulse

junior locust
#

it is also only 280mm

#

the Phantom Gaming OC is 328mm

junior locust
#

But also the Pulse is cheaper so

olive bobcat
#

I’m having trouble picking which 4090 is the best. Ignoring the price aspect.
There’s a few that complain of coil whine or something major like fan issues.

livid idol
#

Coil whine is going to vary wildly and usually goes away if you set a fps limit.
The best is usually the cheapest. The coolers on them are so overbuilt you could take one of the fans off and it'll still work perfectly fine.

#

Every 4090 will perform within a couple % of another, standard variances and the occasional factory overclock (of 30 MHz) included.

olive bobcat
#

Which is the best bang for the buck, I guess I should say.

livid idol
#

I'll rephrase. They're all effectively identical in performance, so pick the one you like.

olive bobcat
#

Ah. Okie dokey.

cursive nova
#

I'm looking at upgrading from 3060. What recommendations would you all Have. would also like to keep it between 500 to 700 but will pay more if need be.

raven wharf
#

do you need the features of one over the other? ex; rasterization, raytracing, etc

cursive nova
#

I don't have a preferance

#

I'm not sure if i need all the features.

#

I don't have a gsync monitor if that matters

raven wharf
#

i dont think it should

#

if you care about just gaming and no raytracing I recommend radeon

#

7800 XT can be found for around 500

#

7900 XT for around 700

#

i have an xfx 6950xt which is slightly slower than the 7900xt, they are both really good cards

cursive nova
#

And what's you opinion on the 7900xtx?

#

I'm not sure it's worth the price increase

raven wharf
#

its a flagship card so itll basically handle anything you throw at in 4k

#

watch some reviews or ask some of the smarter people in here to make up your mind, just depends on what you want

#

any of the 7900s are massive steps up from a 3060

cursive nova
#

I don't think i'll be doing much 4k game as i have a 2k monitor so the 7900xt should do me just fine

raven wharf
#

if those are any help

#

i recommend reviews from hardware unboxed and gamers nexus, they seem to be reliable imo

cursive nova
#

I watched one from Tech Jesus todaykekw

cursive nova
#

I don't know much about sapphire but was looking at that one today

livid idol
#

And this is a game that favors nvidia GPUs

raven wharf
#

i thought starfield favored amd

livid idol
#

It was meant to be

raven wharf
#

7900xt will prob be the best value card from 7000 series once rnda 4 and 5 come

#

it actually makes sense at 700 USD

#

especially with better drivers and stuff

livid idol
#

Always better to look at averages imo

raven wharf
#

what how is my card slower than the 4070tis

#

they have like no vram and cost so much

livid idol
#

It's the set of games they tested

raven wharf
#

aka 3090s

#

im assuming since you cant find them new?

livid idol
#

The chart is crowded enough and the 3090 is only like 3% over the 3080

raven wharf
cursive nova
#

Thanks for all the advice. It really helped.

raven wharf
cursive nova
#

Ok lol

raven wharf
#

i really only know about gpus tbh lol

livid idol
raven wharf
#

i forgot how bad prices were, im so thankful i wasnt into pcs then lol

livid idol
#

3090 was the only one they didn't put a hash rate limiter

random walrus
#

That being said, looking at some yt game benchmarks the gap between 4070ti and 6950xt seems to be lower than that chart would suggest

#

TPU says 4070ti is 4% better than 6950xt

fading glacier
odd siren
#

6950 really can be that good

#

If you go by 3dmark scores 6950's are typically about the 22-24K mark in TS

#

4070 Ti about 24K

#

It's really close

hot bough
vital oriole
#

yep

#

it was THE gpu to get for mining

keen nacelle
#

Not really

#

5700xt, 3060 ti, 3070, rx 500 series 8gb gpus, kinda rx 400 8gb gpus

#

Those were the gotos for efficiency, followed by 3080/3090 and some other random gpus

#

1080 ti was surprisingly good iirc

vital oriole
#

hm yeah

keen nacelle
#

Oh and 1660 ti with hynix vram

vital oriole
#

I was hunting for a used 1080 pc lol

#

ti if possible

keen nacelle
#

I want to do a second build but I have neither the money nor reason for one

edgy pewter
#

Should i go for the Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Ti when i do a GPU upgrade?

keen nacelle
#

that depends on a good few things

#

what your current set up is, what psu you have, resolution, what you use your pc for

random walrus
#

I'm gonna guess Minecraft

#

Maybe a touch of beamng, euro truck sim, portal 2, and CS

livid idol
#

Which CS because that makes a huge difference

edgy pewter
# keen nacelle what your current set up is, what psu you have, resolution, what you use your pc...

Okay, i give answers like the questions are grouped

Q: What is your current setup?

A: I have a PC that has a Intel Core i9 10900K and 48GB of Mixed DDR4 RAM and a Asus Nvidia GeForce RTX 3070 Ti and also a Gainward Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 Ti```

Q: What PSU do you have?

A: I have a Be Quiet Straight Power 11 Power Supply, Black 1000W 80 Plus Gold```

Q: What resolution?

A: I'M currently stuck on 1080P but i plan to get a Better Monitor that is 1440P before the GPU Upgrade.```

Q: What is the usecase?

A: I use that for various things, for example Blender, SheepIt(load is Blender), COD MW, BeamNG.drive and then other CUDA Compute programs like "Waifu2x-caffe" and Tensorflow```

edgy pewter
random walrus
#

Was just peeping your linked steam profile lol

edgy pewter
#

Yeah, that is reasonable, but the "Battle.net" launcher isn't connected.

#

Since i may play COD MW

livid idol
#

The 4070 ti (and super) would seem to fit those needs quite well

edgy pewter
#

I have CS, CS:CZ, CS2

#

And with "CZ" i mean "Condition Zero"

livid idol
#

There's 2 CS2 games now 🙃
Counter Strike 2 and Cities Skylines 2

#

Both have very different needs

edgy pewter
#

i'm kinda sad that CS:GO isn't a thing anymore

edgy pewter
livid idol
#

I mean the 4070 ti super, not the 4070 super

edgy pewter
#

That is what i generally mean

livid idol
#

I have to clarify now because of the stupid names

edgy pewter
#

i think the high end game "Lego Island" is then gonna be finally playable on my PC then

livid idol
#

Those new Lego games are surprisingly difficult to run with all the RT effects. My poor 3080 ti was screaming playing Builder's Journey.

edgy pewter
livid idol
#

O

edgy pewter
#

That might then run smoothly finally with the new GPU for a month

livid idol
#

Considering the age of the game it probably has 16 bit executables so you'd need to run that in PCem. I've done that too and yes it hits both the CPU and GPU good.

edgy pewter
#

But damn, that GPU that i have an eye on be faster:

#

But it's real expensive
PS: that is on "versus.com"

#

Is versus.com a good source?

livid idol
#

Those sites go mostly off of specs so it's not great considering generational improvements go beyond the paper specs.

edgy pewter
livid idol
#

It should be fine. I think they mostly fixed the overheating issues from the 30 series on that model.

#

Maybe that was just the 2x I'm thinking of

edgy pewter
#

Because my Asus RTX 3070 Ti doesn't really go too hot that i know of

livid idol
#

I know for sure the ventus 2x cards were a hard avoid, even the 3060 would overheat. I don't know about the new line of cards so I'm guessing no news is good news?

edgy pewter
#

Like when i upgrade, i keep the GPU

livid idol
edgy pewter
#

but real quick: would you recommend that i would look for used GPUs?

livid idol
#

Used is perfectly fine as long as it's not obviously damaged or caked in dust

edgy pewter
#

What is with the last thing by the way?

livid idol
#

Which last thing?

edgy pewter
#

Caked in dust

#

I have something that i can clean it with

#

and no i don't mean a vacuum cleaner
a real compressor that i can carefully set right

livid idol
#

If it's obviously dirty then it means it wasn't maintained well. More dust means things like the thermal pads can dry out faster, leading to higher temps and even crashing if the dust (which is electrically conductive) managed to short something.

edgy pewter
#

got it.

keen nacelle
edgy pewter
#

and there are 8GB 4070 Ti's, should i avoid them for an upgrade?

keen nacelle
#

You'd probably want a 4070 ti super for the extra vram

#

Gaming it's not super important, but for what you do the extra vram could be useful

livid idol
#

8GB isn't going to be enough for larger blender projects and even some games at 1440p

edgy pewter
keen nacelle
#

Yeah

livid idol
#

A used 12GB 3080/ti would be good

keen nacelle
#

Or 3090 depending on pricing

#

I've seen them around 650

edgy pewter
livid idol
#

See above chart

#

12 GB 3080 is slightly better than the 10GB

edgy pewter
#

okay 👍

livid idol
#

It's about 25% better than what you have at least, maybe more in some vram heavy things

edgy pewter
#

🤔

livid idol
#

If you're thinking "it's weird that 2 products named so close together like the 3070 ti and 3080 have such a large performance gap" you'd be right

edgy pewter
#

i was thinking 3090/3090 Ti

#

maybe that?

livid idol
#

That would be a few more % up the stack

edgy pewter
#

and within my reach in a bit...

#

Holy moly, what a deal:

#

jk, idk if those are really a great option

#

i i think i have (without those absurdly high prices) around 380€

livid idol
#

Blower cards are loud, meant for servers and other tight spaces. So great for people like that seller who probably used it for mining.

edgy pewter
#

Like i see at least 300€ to 400€ on a RTX 3090

livid idol
#

That's pretty good

edgy pewter
#

that is around that price

woeful stump
#

Can I put a 1.5mm and a 0.5mm pads together since I ran out off 2mm?

edgy pewter
#

So in the Future when i have enough money i look again

livid idol
edgy pewter
#

but a new phone display has priority right now

woeful stump
#

Alright. Cuz I don’t live in the us and we’re im from don’t sell pads or paste. And I ended up buying a 3 pack with 0.5 1.5 and a 1mm

#

Only to learn after getting the package that the you uses 2mm 🥺

edgy pewter
#

Fal'Cie, is a 25€ Phone screen okay?

livid idol
#

No idea, I stopped doing phone repairs a long time ago when they started making it almost impossible to open them without breaking more things.

edgy pewter
#

Long story short: it's gonna be pretty easy

livid idol
#

You should be aware of whether your phone model has the touch screen digitizer and LCD glued together at least. They're often extremely difficult to separate so I'd recommend getting the full assembly if that's the case.

edgy pewter
#

The phone i do that to is the Huawei P30 Lite

#

So there is no stialiser

edgy pewter
random walrus
heady turtle
#

✨ stagnation ✨

woeful stump
#

Soooo if one of those gold strips comes off gpu that’s it? Wont boot?

vocal current
#

Do I need to reinstall drivers going from my 6750xt to the 7900xt? I'm assuming i probably do

keen nacelle
livid idol
woeful stump
#

Literally one whole lane is missing

#

Sad. Right after I put paste n thermal pads

livid idol
livid idol
woeful stump
#

5700xt

livid idol
#

I can tell you exactly what will happen based on where the damage is

woeful stump
#

Don’t have a pic

#

But it’s on the smaller part of the logic board

livid idol
#

The shorter side that's close to where the video cables go?

woeful stump
#

Facing up when plugged in

#

Yes we’re u plug in the cables

livid idol
#

Which model 5700 XT? That sounds like it might just be the old crossfire bridge port

woeful stump
#

Yes 5700xt

livid idol
#

Right but which model? MSI, Asus? Something to go off so I can find a pic of it

woeful stump
#

We’re I marked on this photo. It’s the third gold strip going right

#

Msi mech oc

#

Completely gone

livid idol
#

Ok that's just one of the 12V power pins, no big deal

woeful stump
#

How so have no fan spin whatsoever

livid idol
#

It probably has a zero rpm mode when there's low load

vocal current
woeful stump
#

Ok maybe I didn’t explain myself properly. After applying new paste and pads. Pc turns on but not gpu

#

Haven’t booted up period

livid idol
#

Any debug lights on the motherboard?

#

They're usually by the big 24 pin power cable

woeful stump
#

Sadly no. It’s a b450 pro gaming ASUS tuf mobo

#

Wasn’t planning on doing any upgrades until next year. Guess I’ll just have to rest this old rust bucket aside.

#

Guess I’m out off luck then?

livid idol
#

Weird, it's rare that a board has no debug lights these days. Even a B450 board.

#

Start with clearing your cmos and if that doesn't work try another PCIe slot

#

?cmos

neat ventureBOT
woeful stump
#

Ok

livid idol
#

You have a jumper on the bottom left, above the audio header

woeful stump
#

Touch it while pc is on?

#

With screwdriver

livid idol
#

Read the guide, follow instructions for the jumper method

woeful stump
#

Ok sir. I’ll do that thanks

#

I’ll @ u of my progress

peak moon
#

Can someone explain to me; how can micro graphics cards or even the graphics cards designed in laptops compete just as well with the full size graphics card? Or would you argue differently?

livid idol
#

Laptop chips these days are often just lower power models of the desktop chips. For example, the laptop 4090 is literally a desktop 4080 with a power limit.

vital oriole
#

sometimes they're even identical versions of desktop gpu

livid idol
#

That power limit is the key to making sure it's able to be cooled in the smaller form factor. Less power, less heat, less thermal mass needed to cool it.

vital oriole
#

like 4060

lilac osprey
#

Why doesn't the desktop 4080 have the laptop 4090's power limit?

odd siren
#

Because...

#

Laptops can't cool 350+ watts?

lilac osprey
#

I think you may have misread me.

#

But I also may have misread Fal'Cie, who only said the CHIP was the same, not the board. The entire board would make the difference in required power, I suppose

odd siren
#

Oh

#

Oh no you could set a laptop chip to pull whatever power it could

#

But the laptop simply won't handle the draw and either overheat or throttle tremendously

#

They program the vbios to a set limit for what's possible for the laptops

#

They do this as well for desktop, if you unlock a lot of cards to pull whatever they'll go way beyond their cooling limits lol

odd siren
lone pond
#

whats the difference between amd and nvidia gpus

#

like is there any substantial differences or

#

r they jus different brands ig lol

spare relic
#

one is made by nvidia

#

the other is made by amd

#

and often games will throw a fit about amd gpus lol

olive bobcat
#

@lone pond AMD gpus are often much cheaper. But games will often have problems with them. They’re still fantastic, and some are very powerful however.
NVIDIA cards tend to reach the more expensive prices, and have the lead in power. That being said, the choice is pretty much up to whatever you prefer. The cards don’t differ much in the same performance categories.

odd siren
#

Otherwise no

#

Not really at all

lone pond
#

i was thinking abt a 6800xt

odd siren
#

Not often

#

Quite rare nowadays

olive bobcat
#

And I’ve played 160+ games

spare relic
#

only the games I play kekw

lone pond
#

i really only play rust cs2 and fortnite im gonna be honest lmao

#

and clone hero but that can run on anything so like

livid idol
olive bobcat
#

@lone pond unless you’re going for an RTX 4090, the Amd cards are much better if an investment in terms of price.

odd siren
#

I will say, consider 7800xt

odd siren
#

7800xt pretty cheap rn

spare relic
#

badly programmed games are a dime a dozen :)

odd siren
#

Slightly better rounded package

olive bobcat
#

Do you need to still look for parts? Or have you got the rest of your build already?

lone pond
odd siren
#

Just above 6800xt

#

Like next notch up

#

But better RT

lone pond
olive bobcat
lone pond
#

ive been running this same 1660ti rig for like 4-5 years so its time for an upgrade lol

olive bobcat
#

Can you get the specs?

lone pond
#

i have all of them

#

one moment

olive bobcat
lone pond
#
  • PHANTEKS G500-A MID TOWER PC CASE WITH 7X140MM AND 3X120MM PHANTEKS RGB FANS. Corsair Commander Pro controlling fans and AIO

  • I7-13700KF CPU with Thermalright Contact frame

  • Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX DDR5 motherboard

  • 64GB of 6400mhz G skill DDR5 RAM (4X16GB)

  • 1 TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO M.2 SSD

  • CORSAIR H170I 420MM AIO (6X140MM FANS SETUP AS PUSH/PULL ON AIO)

  • SAPPHIRE OVERCLOCKED TRIPLE FAN 6800XT GPU

  • LINKUP PCIE 5.0 RISER CABLE

  • GAMEMAX 1050 WATT GOLD POWER SUPPLY with RGB (Can run any GPU on the market)

he wants 1200$

keen nacelle
#

Eh

#

One sec

olive bobcat
#

That’s a little much for all that

#

Also 64gb??? Unless you’re running software/video editing, you have no need for that

odd siren
lone pond
#

so id like the ram lol

olive bobcat
#

Let one of these guys build you something cheaper and effective

livid idol
keen nacelle
odd siren
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If he's video editing he'll want more cpu bias

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More ram at that

lone pond
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  • recording games lol
spare relic
odd siren
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Recording you'd be mostly ok

lone pond
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my bad i dont know like, alot

odd siren
odd siren
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They cherry pick units for review

livid idol
odd siren
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Actual units are garbage

lone pond
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not surprised when the company is literally called "GAME MAX"

odd siren
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Hey, their cases seem ok

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You can't screw up a case that easily tho

spare relic
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game minimum tbh

olive bobcat
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Game less than minimum

lone pond
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ngl the most important thing i care about is cs2, rust and fort, able to record them, and also enough ram and cpu to edit

olive bobcat
lone pond
livid idol
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If you're doing recording then you would probably benefit from the latest gen GPUs because they have AV1 encoding support. Smaller file sizes, better quality, less compute intensive.

lone pond
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frag montages lol

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  • more focus on youtube soon
olive bobcat
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Maybe set him up with a 7800x3d or a 14900
I read that wrong falcie
Do you have a budget?

odd siren
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Think that used system wouldn't be too bad if you swapped the psu imo

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Just cos multithread

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And 64gb

olive bobcat
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True

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Then again

odd siren
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Bin the psu or keep it for backup testing

olive bobcat
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Check baccas list

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Cheaper

odd siren
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I've already seen it

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It's comparable in games mostly, but the ram is the big kicker imo

olive bobcat
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Spend the extra bit on 64 ram, and not worry about replacing the PSU

lone pond
spare relic
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4 screws and unplugging cables

odd siren
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This would be comparable

lone pond
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one of my friends brothers builds pcs, i have zero place to build in my apartment so like

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id honestly rather get a good parts list and have him put it together lmao

olive bobcat
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Pick that list

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Right there

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Big money

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Big talent

spare relic
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why not build in your apt

lone pond
spare relic
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just put it on a box

lone pond
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  • zero experience
spare relic
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enough room to build

lone pond
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the no space is VERY much a copout for me being scared but uhh