graphics-cards

[keen nacelle]

None of us have anything to do with pricing

We know just as well as you do

[near wind]

oh ic

also tryna return a gpu do u guys only give out ups shipping label

i only have a usps in my town

[keen nacelle]

I dont know what you mean you guys I'm not affiliated with newegg

This discord server is separate from the company that is newegg

[near wind]

ah

[keen nacelle]

I dont know what they do for shipping labels I've never returned anything from them

If they only do ups can't you ship it through a post office?

[near wind]

i did the same thing for my steamdeck rma

so i think it would be fine

[livid idol]

As a former USPS employee I can confirm that you can leave a UPS package with them and UPS comes to collect them every few days.

[near wind]

ye lol took like 3 days before ups gets it

[livid idol]

Sounds about right

So not a good option for time sensitive things but still convenient

[near wind]

my steamdeck im talking about

[near wind]

ye better than an hour drive just to drop off packages

[undone schooner]

So ik you should always get better but I'm trying to decide rather a rx 7700 xt or a rx 7800 xt would be more worth it.

[livid idol]

Depends on what you're doing with it

If you're just doing fps games, a weaker gpu would be fine

Single player focused games with better graphics, you definitely want the better gpu

[undone schooner]

Streaming

[livid idol]

Streaming what? Drawing tutorials? Fortnite? Starfield?

[keen nacelle]

7700xt is generally bad value

[undone schooner]

Hmm. Let's go a little big. Bg3 and what not

[keen nacelle]

6700xt and 7800xt are better price/perf

[undone schooner]

[livid idol]

Baldur's Gate doesn't need a beefy gpu

You really don't need more than 60 fps since it's turn based

[keen nacelle]

or 6800

[undone schooner]

It's more of something that can hold up

I'm just not sure the quality of the parts. I'm reading but still not a general idea

[solid glacier]

Hey how do Ik if i put the fan on right for a exhaust fan

For rear exhaust

[livid idol]

The side with the cross frame is the exhaust side

[solid glacier]

Hey if you want I got that code for ya

[livid idol]

Second picture is exhaust position for the back slot

What code? I've been off for a few days and don't remember

[solid glacier]

Check dms

[near wind]

Does

Removing the void sticker behind ur gpu

Void returns

Even if it was bought just a week ago

[livid idol]

Are you in the US?

If so then they legally can't void your warranty just for a missing sticker

That doesn't meant they won't try, some brands are better than others about that

[near wind]

Yup in the us

Also returning on newegg so

Not an rma

[livid idol]

No problem then, should go right through the process

[near wind]

I hope so cuz the card was hot so i was not satiesfied

[rustic pulsar]

what card and how hot?

some cards run at like 80c no problem like 4090s thats kinda normal

[near wind]

30c difference delta

[rustic pulsar]

compared to ambient? Thats fine

[near wind]

7000 series power color cards are doo doo

[livid idol]

Between hotspot and average?

[near wind]

Not delta

Edge i mean

And hotspot

[rustic pulsar]

hotspot?

[near wind]

66-96c

Yup

Hit 100c before

[rustic pulsar]

my 4090 does that lol. hotspot goes to 100 when under full load

[near wind]

Ye but mine is a 7800xt

I tried screwing it more of rmore tension hence void sticker

[odd siren]

not that unusual on radeon

it's on the higher side, but normal

[near wind]

eh id still try different models

if the return hits

[odd siren]

I think the only card I've had with "nvidia-like" hotspot on RDNA was the eagle 6600

usually hotspot delta is about 20-25ish

[near wind]

what temp do amd hotspot throttles?

[odd siren]

110

anything under that and it's fine

[hot folio]

Really? Never had a hotspot like that on any of my AMD cards

Always has been within 5-10C

6800XT, 6950XT and both XTX’s

[odd siren]

I'm on my fourth card and this is normal

Hotspot will push much further on amd

And it's fine when it does so

God no my 5th

6900xt, 6700xt, 6600, 7900xtx(x2)

Only the 6600 didn't do it but it's the only triple fan and can run full power at like 40C if it wants to lmao

[hot folio]

Damn guess I got lucky

[odd siren]

It's not unusual to get decent hotspot

But like

30C delta is kinda fine

Certain 3d loads will spike that hotspot maximum way up as well

It's not reducing performance when it happens

[velvet grail]

My xfx 6950xt hits 75C hotspot with a moderate fan curve

[raven wharf]

Isn’t the 6950 XT like the hottest Radeon card though

Atleast for like the 6000 series

[odd siren]

Hot very subjective by cooler lol

[velvet grail]

I'd say loudest

[odd siren]

Yeah the xfx ones can be noisy

It's the same with the new gen too

[odd siren]

figured I'd post this for clarification:

this is totally stable, 5C delta

when I hit it with a load it can spike as much as a 35C delta

If I remember to screenshot it later I will

[raven wharf]

what radeon brand has the best coolers? sapphire?

[undone schooner]

So I have been looking into a rx 6800 xt gpu and a rx 7800 xt. I found a 6800 that I like and is compatible for $449 but I also found a 7800 that's $519 and also compatible. Is the $70 difference worth it? I'm not to sure. The reviews seem to say both are decent but I'm not sure the $70 difference is worth it

[livid idol]

They perform nearly identical, so the only difference will be newer features on the 7800 XT like hardware AV1 encoding. That can be nice if you do a lot of streaming.
Otherwise, no it's not worth the price difference.

[odd siren]

Just for note as well

6800 ≠ 6800xt

They're two separate gpus

Just in case it isn't known lol

[livid idol]

Which is really consumer unfriendly, especially considering they already have XX50 models and have done XX70 and XX90 before.

[odd siren]

It's at least better than

3050 8gb

3050 6gb

3060 12gb

3060 8gb 💀

4080 16gb

4080 12gb

At least adding an X makes way more sense to normal people than changing the gb number

[livid idol]

It's not much better than
7900 XTX
7900 XT
7900
7900 GRE

[odd siren]

Yo-

You make a good point touché

Let's just nuke all of it

👏👏 CHOP CHOP EVERYBODY

HEAD TO THE SHELTER DOWNSTAIRS WE'RE STARTING FRESH

[livid idol]

Which could have been named
7990
7970
7950
7900
And it would make way more sense

[odd siren]

In it's defence

It adds more X's

[livid idol]

Fair enough. We all know XFX is the best because more X.

[odd siren]

Yes

XFX RX 7900 XTX Merc310XXX

[undone schooner]

I'll get the 7800 then. Thank you so much

But what us AV1 encoding?

Not familiar with it

[livid idol]

It's a new encoding method that gets higher quality results at lower bitrates

H265 is old and clunky, it's about time it was replaced by a new, sleek, open license standard

[undone schooner]

Oh ok. So the exta $70 would be worth it just bc of that. Got it

[livid idol]

If you stream a lot, yes, because your stream won't buffer as much for the viewers. Especially on slower upload speeds.

[undone schooner]

Does the 3070 ti have that?

[random walrus]

Or if you clip/record gameplay

[livid idol]

The 3070 ti can decode AV1 (view it) but not encode

[undone schooner]

I mean. I have 500 mbp internet

[livid idol]

Is that 500 down/500 up though

[undone schooner]

Ok so then 3070 ti vs the 6800 which one should I go with (if I don't go with the 7800)

[undone schooner]

I want to say it's 100 up

[random walrus]

Even if it's a strong upload speed twitch/YouTube will limit the bitrate and AV1 may look better

[livid idol]

Because I have 800 down and only 10 up, good old cable

[undone schooner]

[livid idol]

6800, more memory is aging better already

[undone schooner]

So my best bet is without a doubt 7800

[undone schooner]

Thank you guys for your help

[livid idol]

Happy to help

[undone schooner]

[livid idol]

https://speedtest.net
That'll tell you for sure

[undone schooner]

497.12 download

The app is giving me largely different numbers

Can't seem to find the upload tho

[chrome crystal]

I'm looking for an nvidia gpu that can runa 240hz 1080p monitor for the next 5 years. Any suggestions? Thanks

[odd siren]

What's your specs

[chrome crystal]

i5 8600k 1660ti rn I only play valorant and overwatch rn lol and my gpu works fine except the fans go crazy on overwatch so idek if I need an upgrade

[livid idol]

And what game because many you can't get 240 fps even on a 4090

Ah esports

[chrome crystal]

I'm thinking of just upgrading rn so don't think I can wait for the super gpus

so idk if rn is a good time

[odd siren]

You could do 6700xt

Or 6600xt

No reason to do nvidia here, you just pay more money for the same thing

[chrome crystal]

my monitor has gsync so was thinking of staying with nvidia probably

yeah ig so

my budget is kinda unrestricted

I just don't want to get scammed

[odd siren]

If it has gsync it will have freesync, amd's version

Gsync freesync are basically the same

And at 240fps you shouldn't even notice either

If you wanted to do a full overhaul I'd do like

Ryzen 7600 & 6700xt

[livid idol]

https://youtu.be/CQdo67SjIHk?si=xqdOQgW8x6nUiRsy

[chrome crystal]

hmmm ok thanks

given that my card already gives me enough frames rn though

woudl it be a good idea just to wait till 2025?

[livid idol]

Tldr there's no difference unless you get super high end

[chrome crystal]

I think a repaste might be able to solve my gpu heat issue

[odd siren]

1660Ti is competent for 1080p low, high fps in some fps games

[livid idol]

Usually a repaste does it, especially on one that old

[odd siren]

But I kinda would urge the upgrade tbh

6700xt runs high enough fps in basically any 1080p game and will for a long time

[chrome crystal]

hm ok thanks my budget is kinda unrestricted would it be worth going for something better

and what if I have a really strong preference for nvidia lol

I was kinda thinking this but the 4080 is a scam I think

[keen nacelle]

4080 at $1129 right now is awful

[chrome crystal]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/3yqKsh

yeah

how about the 4070ti

[odd siren]

We can def do way better for the budget

[keen nacelle]

Way better

[odd siren]

Sorry Bacca can you do this list my phone is like, starting to break

Everything lagging

[chrome crystal]

I don't have a budget but I don't think I would go for an amd gpu just cause what I've heard about it

with the issues it has and whatnot

[odd siren]

Oh it's better now

That was weird

Discord exploded

[chrome crystal]

mainly just looking for something that can hold for another 5 years

[livid idol]

AMD doesn't have any more driver issues than nvidia does now, they improved a lot

[odd siren]

Honestly, my and many others experiences since the new gen amd cards dropped have been really good

I would say it's more than comparable to nvidia these days

Each have their quirks

[chrome crystal]

ok thanks but I think I'm set on an nvidia gpu though lol

[odd siren]

I daily both sides, so I'm always comparing

I can understand that but my encouragement for this is that you can pay much less and get the same essential experience

[chrome crystal]

yeah true

my budget is unrestricted ig

[odd siren]

6700xt has been regarded as the best value gpu for a loooonnnggg time

[chrome crystal]

hmmm how about upgrade when the 5000 cards come out?

is that too long of a wait

idt I'll be playing any other games

[odd siren]

5000 is not for another year

[chrome crystal]

hmmm so I'm going to uni for most of 2024 and I'm not bringing my pc so would you think it's worth waiting until 2025 for whatever comes out next?

cause my card probably can hold for the next few months

[odd siren]

That's more up to you my guy

Do you feel like what you have is ok rn?

[chrome crystal]

yeah I just kinda wanted to spend some money lmao

💀

[odd siren]

Lol

Well I mean I could show you what I think strong 5yr+ 1080p looks like

Tho granted

Futureproofing is a non existent concept

Tomorrow we could have games 20x harder than today

You never know

[chrome crystal]

yeah true

[chrome crystal]

that would help thanks

any clue when the 4090 prices would drop to msrp? I could just fullsend one and call it a day lol

or hmmm do you think 12gb of vram would be alright for 1080p?

I could just get a 4070ti

[odd siren]

Here's an ITX system

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/fhvzXk

It cost like, $30 more than a regular sized system so I figured why not

Now you have a tiny pc

This should do 1080p 240fps in fps games

[chrome crystal]

lol nice that's less than a 4080 by itself

[odd siren]

Yes

4080 is for like

4K or 1440p maxed

[chrome crystal]

hmmm what if I have money to burn kinda lol

[odd siren]

For competitive fps it's wayyyy overkill

[odd siren]

I would change monitor

The monitor becomes the choke point beyond this list

[chrome crystal]

yeah true I was thinking staying at 1080p would just give me more longevity in whatever I'm running

like I don't mind 1080p kinda

do you think a 4070ti would be alright

[odd siren]

4070ti would be like a ferrari with trolley cart wheels

Paired with 1080p 240hz

Lmao

[chrome crystal]

💀 lol

[odd siren]

It's extreme overkill

Ok, if you really want like

[chrome crystal]

but that would mean it has a good chance of holding for 5 years right

[odd siren]

Comparable nvidia

[odd siren]

Yesn't

[chrome crystal]

only thing is that the super might have 16gb of vram once it comes out

so kinda idk

[odd siren]

Comparable nvidia would be like, used 3060 Ti

Specifically used

Because the value comparison is then equal

[chrome crystal]

oh ok thanks

if I were to get a 3060ti would 12gb of vram be enough

like let's say I somehow end up playing gta 6 if it comes out for pc

[odd siren]

8gb should still be plenty ample for 1080p

But also, longevity would be measurably lower

(idk if 5 years, 3, 1, who knows)

6700xt is like the 4090 of 1080p

It's pretty ridiculous

[chrome crystal]

hmmm ok thanks

[odd siren]

It's a 1440p card I'm suggesting for 1080p here

[chrome crystal]

wouldn't a better card kinda just give more longevity though

well a better chance

[odd siren]

My best friend runs a 6700xt on a 1080p 360hz and he's never complained

[chrome crystal]

oh ok nice

[odd siren]

I'd say just pocket the money instead

Come the day you need to upgrade again potentially, you can grab another mid range card

[chrome crystal]

what if it's kinda a work equipment budget I can burn lol

[odd siren]

Oh in that case

Let's burn the crap out of it

💀💀

What's the max

Max before tax

[chrome crystal]

I have like 3k lol

[odd siren]

3k before or after tax

[chrome crystal]

after tax

I'm thinking of upgrading my current pc

have a noctua d15s

[odd siren]

Can you tell me what's that before tax

[chrome crystal]

sure

[odd siren]

Also just the pc?

Or can a monitor count too

[chrome crystal]

2654 cad give or take

[odd siren]

Gotcha

[chrome crystal]

I think the budget is just for a pc

[odd siren]

Ok np

[chrome crystal]

idt I'm getting another monitor atm at least

[odd siren]

Gimme a couple minutes

I'll make it the most bonkers

[chrome crystal]

keeping my case

ssd

noctua d15s

[odd siren]

Case what case

[chrome crystal]

corsair 460x

and that's about it

and hopefully an nvidia gpu

[odd siren]

Uhhh, I'd change case

[chrome crystal]

cpu doesn't matter

hmmm any reason why?

[odd siren]

Case is a hotbox for new gen

Can't handle it

[chrome crystal]

I kinda like my current one

ah even with a noctua?

I can undervolt I guess

[odd siren]

Not thinking about the cpu

Gpu's are ridiculous now

You'll be throttling like mad

[chrome crystal]

hmmmm alright ok perhaps a new case is alright then

no need for rgb and stuff

[odd siren]

@chrome crystal what is the specific noctua

[chrome crystal]

nh-d15s

[odd siren]

Ah ok

@chrome crystal maxed
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/HyQ889

Is the 40 cents too much tho

[chrome crystal]

🫡 ok thanks

so we getting scammed with the 4080 lmao

[odd siren]

Yes, well, the government is

[chrome crystal]

lol

[odd siren]

Just double check that's still under 3K after tax

2654.44

[chrome crystal]

it's like $21 over but that's fine lol

canada pricing

[odd siren]

Sure? I can fix that

One sec

[chrome crystal]

would it be worth just getting a 4070ti and spending the extra on some headphones

like some nice openbacks

[odd siren]

That depends if the government allows it

How's this

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/8JRjRK

2614.44 before tax

[chrome crystal]

ok cool thanks 🫡

ok let's say it's allowed would a 4070ti be worth?

[odd siren]

My real take?

[chrome crystal]

yeah

[odd siren]

If 12gb vram was ever an issue

4070ti would age worse than a 6700xt

Reason? 4070ti is meant for much higher end

Whereas the 6700xt just has an overkill amount for it's class

So people using much beefier monitors on 4070ti's will age worse

I'm always in the camp of

"if you want 4070 ti, consider 7900xt"

[chrome crystal]

yeah makes sense

[odd siren]

If you're looking for longevity, 7900xt will age soooo much better for the same price

It has 20gb vram

And this is even if we run into this as a problem in the next few years

As far as performance, 4080 is a significant step up

If you wanted open backs, I'd put a 7900 XTX in with open backs, not 4070 ti

[chrome crystal]

sounds good thanks

[chrome crystal]

I saw some benchmarks I thought the 1080p performance was relatively the same with the 4070ti

it's probably for higher res right

by a lot

[odd siren]

If that's what you saw

You witnessed a cpu bottleneck

As in all cards are held back by the cpu from going faster

[chrome crystal]

ah ok yeah that's true

[odd siren]

This is what your list would look like with open backs
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/VssRwg

You lose basically no performance, nay, you gain overall

[chrome crystal]

thanks yeah 24gb of vram is nice lol

[odd siren]

And btw, I mention vram, but don't obsess over vram

It's just one hot topic lately as a lot of 6gb cards and some 8gb cards are starting to see growing pains from it

20gb, 24gb, 16gb, all huge

[chrome crystal]

could always just bump down the quality settings right

[odd siren]

Yes

[chrome crystal]

ok nice thanks

[odd siren]

12gb at 1080p is extreme too

[chrome crystal]

I have a goofy tn panel anyways

[odd siren]

Yeah you should consider a new monitor with this imo

For comp fps an oled is the cream of the crop

Lowest response by a mile

[chrome crystal]

nice yeah perhaps someday might get one lol

[odd siren]

LG 27GR

It's a 1440p 240hz oled

Goes for around 700-ish? 800-ish? Usd

[chrome crystal]

since when were mointor 0.03 lol last time I checked it was 0.5 max

damn

[odd siren]

Since oled

[chrome crystal]

yeah I'll get myself one someday lol

[odd siren]

Np

[chrome crystal]

thanks

[odd siren]

No worries

[chrome crystal]

🫡

[runic trail]

RX 6600 or 5700 XT

Budget is under 200 used

[keen nacelle]

Used could likely find 6600xt or 6650xt

Or 2070 super (or higher)

[novel musk]

u can connect two monitors to 7900 xtx right?

with two DP 1.4 cables?

i have a 4K display and a 2K ultrawide

4K display is detected

but not the 2K ultrawide

i tried different cables too

not working

[livid idol]

The combined max resolution needs to be below 7680x4320. What's the exact resolution of the ultrawide?

I assume the 4k is 3840x2160

[novel musk]

3440x1440

welp.

im out of luck ig?

[livid idol]

That's cutting awfully close but should technically work. Maybe not at full color/refresh but it should work.

[novel musk]

but it doesn't work...

[livid idol]

You might need more than a DP 1.4 cable

That's a pretty old standard

[novel musk]

two 1.4 isn't enough?

i thought 1.4 is the best DP ver yet

[livid idol]

No we're all the way up to DP 2.1

Which your GPU has

[novel musk]

amazon time

this one?

[livid idol]

To be clear the monitor that's working is probably ok, I'm guessing it's a lower refresh than the ultrawide?

[novel musk]

both 144hz

[keen nacelle]

I like how discord messes up images on mobile a different way each update

[novel musk]

Ultrawide, 3440 x 1440
4K, 3840 x 2160

Two DP 1.4 cables (1.4 supports 4K @ 144hz)

[livid idol]

Which ultrawide monitor exactly so we know what the port version is

[novel musk]

so idk why 1.4 isn't displaying my ultrawide monitor which is at 2K

[keen nacelle]

Is it the only monitor connected?

[novel musk]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B086XLLG28/ this one

[keen nacelle]

Ah fal already checked that

[raven wharf]

i wish i had this problem

what brand of xtx do you have btw

not relevant just curious

[raven wharf]

does it seem to do fine noise and thermal wise? an xtx is what i might try and upgrade to sometime next year, ive been slowly asking ppls opinions

[livid idol]

Ok so that does only support DP 1.4, perhaps try setting the 4k to 60hz and see what happens or just plug in the ultrawide

[novel musk]

wtf

i unplugged the 4K

the 2K isn’t detected at all

two nights ago it was working

[livid idol]

Swap ports and restart

[novel musk]

restart pc?

do i disable the integrated graphics

is that causing any issues with this

[livid idol]

Yes PC restart

Honestly you can use the integrated graphics to your advantage here, plug whichever isn't your primary gaming monitor into the iGPU

[novel musk]

this is mad weird

connecting the 2K display only

it’s not being detected

it says No Signal

what if i use HDMI on the 2K

and DP remains for 4K

[livid idol]

Is the display on the correct input

[novel musk]

yes

i’m gonna give up for tn…. 1 am

[novel musk]

i cannot answer ur question since i haven’t been doing much with pc lately due to work and moving

[odd siren]

Yes. I have 3 *4K 144hz displays connected

[odd siren]

You're fine. It's not the gpu

[odd siren]

Try ddu or changing to new cable

[odd siren]

Very much think it's a dead cable

?ddu

[neat venture]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[odd siren]

Try this or grab a good dp 1.4a/2.1 cable with lots of amazon reviews

Should be pretty cheap

Sometimes radeon drivers can crash from too much display switching. So like, changing your configuration too much, can lead to choppiness, black screens etc

DDU fixes that

Nvidia has the same problem

Though far worse with surround configs

[odd siren]

It's a bit noisy but nothing you'd notice with headphones

Depending on the pc it's still a pretty normal sound profile, just on the higher side

This is specifically the merc310, other XTX's are quieter

[raven wharf]

red devil looks amazing imo, but ive heard powercolor is really bad for coil whine

[odd siren]

They have a really good cooler design this gen, so coil whine is far easier to notice

But all XTX's just about using AMD reference or a very close derivative

So pretty much no matter what you pick you're doing well

I'd only really avoid the gaming trio classic, because it uses a laughably lower power vbios than even reference iirc

[raven wharf]

the gaming trio looks horrible anyway imo

1029 is wild

[livid idol]

I hesitate to suggest DDU for AMD cards. I've seen it do more harm than good thanks to the bug in the driver installer.

Nothing a Windows reinstall doesn't fix

[raven wharf]

i did ddu for mine

[livid idol]

Did the driver installer give you the option to tick the "clean installation" box or was it still grayed out

[raven wharf]

pretty sure it was still greyed out no matter what i ended up doing

i am not touching anything else though i have had no issues'

[livid idol]

Ok then they haven't fixed the bug yet

Good that it fixed things for you but there's been a few cases where it didn't

Maybe the dev for DDU worked around things on their end, I haven't looked at patch notes lately

[odd siren]

I've tried other methods and DDU seems to be the only consistent reset for me in my experience

And I say that for both nvidia and amd

Factory reset is useless and the amd driver cleaner doesn't always work

[novel musk]

@odd siren before i attempt DDU, even the iGPU won’t detect the 2K monitor

i tested multiple cables, all 1.4, all brand new from amazon within the year

My Macbook can detect the 2K display

using HDMI to USB C

[heady turtle]

Did you test diff ports tho?

Could be port that's broke

[novel musk]

now my macbook wont get detected either

i tried all ports

wtf?

is the monitor just broken

i feel like my monitor is broken during moving

but how…

[livid idol]

Yes it's the most consistent option still. But it's not my first one for AMD based on experience.

[novel musk]

GG

i am pretty sure my 2K monitor is broken

something broke the HDMI DP ports

the screen is working completely fine

cuz it shows the monitor menus etc

just wont output/input anything i plug into

O_O

[novel musk]

@livid idol @odd siren does 7900 XTX support a 144Hz 4K display + this?

sorry i tagged wrong person

[odd siren]

Should do

Considering I can run 3 4k 144hz's at once

[odd siren]

Warranty claim time

[novel musk]

monitor is from 2019

i doubt i can anymore

i just went to best buy

and bought another ultra wide and it worked without me fiddling any settings

plug and play

looks like my old ultra wide really is dead

[sinful cipher]

I just bought a PC and all the specs said it would support Fortnite but when we downloaded it says we don’t have enough graphic memory. This is the first download attempted and so I do. It understand and am definitely a gaming PC newb

[velvet grail]

Could you provide the model of the pc, or the specs? GPU specs is what matters the most if you're facing that issue

[sinful cipher]

MXZ Gaming PC Desktop Computer, AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.7GHz, RTX 2060S, B450, 16GB DDR4, NVME 500GB SSD, 6RGB Fans, Win 10 Pro Ready, Gamer Desktop Computer (R5 5600/RTX 2060S )

•    Processor: Ryzen 5 5600 3.7GHz 6-Core 12-thread| Motherboard: B450 S2H Motherboard
•    Graphics: RTX 2060S| RAM:8GB*2(16GB) DDR4 3200MHz | Hard Drive:NVME 500G Solid State Drive
•    Power Supply: 550W 80+ Power Supply | Operating System: Windows 10 Pro (installed already)
•    Special Add-Ons: PCI-E WIFI & | Window side case panel | Multiple RGB Fans for Maximum Air and lighting
•    1 year parts & labor | Free lifetime tech support| This figuration is capable of running many games such as World of Warcraft, League of Legends, Grand Theft Auto V, Apex Legends, Fortnite, Roblox, PUBG, Battlefield V, Minecraft, and more

[velvet grail]

Ok, that can definitely run Fortnite (it can run on basically anything). You probably need to download or update graphics card drivers, you can do that from the Nvidia website and choosing the right GPU drivers (latest) for the 2060 super

[keen nacelle]

Out of curiosity, what did that cost you?

[opal star]

Ok uhh

I think I'll get an rtx 4050 laptop for a cheap price I think

[vital oriole]

what's your budget for a laptop

[opal star]

If it's in pesos,I think about 45 thousand for some reason

I'm not in America

[vital oriole]

alright

so which country is this? lol

philippines?

[cyan vault]

I have a 7900 XTX red devil, really love it but kinda wish I could always run it full power. Anyone know a way to modify it in some way to make it quieter while still being able to run overclocked?

[odd siren]

Not really

RDNA 3 ships with phase change pads, so they're pretty much dialed in out of the box

I mean, there's always water cooling?

But I wouldn't say it's a value gain worth it ever for the noise profile change

Could consider maybe redoing the paste if it has gross temps

But a 30C hotspot delta or less is really just fine

You'd redo it with ptm7950/ptm7955

[cyan vault]

Yeahhh I don't ever get over like 15-25C hotspot delta. Just annoying hearing the fans go max speed sometimes cause I have open backs

[odd siren]

What's the core temp

[fading glacier]

quieter and full power cant be on the same sentence unless you water cool it

[keen nacelle]

Depending on Temps, could just set a less aggressive fan curve

[odd siren]

You can try a higher fan profile at the base

So you don't get the ramping

[green harness]

Could move the PC to another room

[fading glacier]

and just have the monitor and the keyboard/mouse/controller on another room? hey thats a good idea!

[raven wharf]

think this would be a worthwhile upgrade? unsure just because its a reference

its at a microcenter like around 40 mins away

[vital oriole]

very

[raven wharf]

wont it be like

stupid hot

since its a reference

[vital oriole]

no lol not really

just watch for hotspot but 6950xt ref isn't terrible

[blissful nest]

Is this card worth it at this price point

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-6800-xt-rx6800xt-tcx-16go/p/N82E16814930050?Item=N82E16814930050&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-14-930-050-_-12262023

[keen nacelle]

Nah, there's one in stock for $450

Otherwise 7800xt at $500

[raven wharf]

not a worthwhile improvement

7800xt shoulda been 7700xt

i plan on making the 1440p jump within the next week or so, how long can my 6700xt stay viable at that resolution?

as in would it likely be worth skipping this generation of cards?

[fading glacier]

6700 is pretty viable on 1440p

[odd siren]

XT*

Non-XT I think deserves the 1080p demotion soon

[fallen gale]

Question: RTX 3070 + i5 12600K + 32gb 4800 MHz ram or RTX 3060 ti + i7 12700kf + 16gb 4800MHz ram?

[keen nacelle]

Neither if possible

[livid idol]

Between the two the 3070+12600k is probably better but in general it's not a good option at all

[rugged thunder]

Had a non xt for a while and yeah

It manages 1440p but wouldn't say it's great at it

[craggy warren]

I have been looking around but I haven been able to find a Graphics Card that could run MS flight simulator and KSP 2. Any suggestions? I have a ASUS ROG STRIX B560-A GAMING WIFI LGA 1200 Intel B560 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard and an MSI Ventus GeForce GTX 1650 4GB GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 Video Card GTX 1650 VENTUS XS 4G OC.

[keen nacelle]

That's two motherboard names, neither of which I would recommend

And if you are looking at buying a 1650, please no

What parts do you currently own, and what are you looking to spend

[craggy warren]

I am looking to get a better graphics card

[keen nacelle]

Ok

You already have a 1650?

[craggy warren]

and I have a GTX 1650

yeah

[keen nacelle]

Ok

Are you only upgrading gpu?

Or cpu, mobo, and ram too, since the b650

Oh wait

I misread

Mb

Thought the strix was an am5 motherboard

[craggy warren]

It is all good

[keen nacelle]

Ok, what cpu and power supply do you have

And how much are you looking to spend

[craggy warren]

CPU 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-11700K @ 3.60GHz, 3600 Mhz, 8 Core(s), 16 Logical Processor(s)
Power Supply ARC 650, 650W Non-Modular

Around $500

But it is fine if it is more

[craggy warren]

Do you need anything else

[livid idol]

What kind of a budget are you looking at? Both of your listed games are pretty CPU heavy, but a GPU upgrade will definitely help.
Something like a 6700 XT would work. Or the newer counterpart, the 7700 XT.

[keen nacelle]

Sorry for late response but fal covered it. I'd say ideally 6700xt, but 6600xt, 6650xt, 6700, 3060 ti, 3070 and some others are options as well depending on budget

For used, 20 series and 6000 series up

[craggy warren]

thanks

Should I upgrade my cpu or will it suffice?

[livid idol]

It'll be ok with a 6700 XT for now

It's only a few years old

[keen nacelle]

11700k I'd run with up to a 3090 at 1440p

[craggy warren]

so, would a 6700 XT run well for the games I am hoping to play?

[livid idol]

It's about the highest tier I'd use with your power supply

It'll run decently well, the 6700 XT is solid midrange

[keen nacelle]

What tier is arc 650?

I've never heard of it

[craggy warren]

I have been looking into it and i see that the MSI GeForce RTX 4060 Ti Ventus 3X OC 16GB looks like it works but will my power supply handle it?

I also could afford it

[keen nacelle]

It's just very bad value

The 6700xt is better

And cheaper

If you want nvidia, get a refurbished or open box 3060 ti or 3070

[craggy warren]

the AMD RX 6700-XT?

[keen nacelle]

Yes

The 4060 ti is an embarrassment of a gpu, it barely outperforms the 3060 ti

At times it loses to it

[craggy warren]

what is better about the 6700-xt

[keen nacelle]

The cheapest 40 series worth it is the 4070 at $500+

Normally 535+

[keen nacelle]

It performs closer to the 3070 than the 3060 ti

The 4060 ti doesn't

It's also $300

Compared to $380-450

[craggy warren]

alright

Is userbenchmark reliable Bc i have been using it to compare

and it says the 4060-ti is better than the 6700-xt

[keen nacelle]

No

Ubm is really bad

Like

[craggy warren]

oh

[keen nacelle]

?ubm

[neat venture]

`UserBenchmark is NOT a reliable source of information and has been blanket banned in many hardware communities such as r/hardware and r/intel for what started as an anti-AMD bias but has spiraled into delusion.

In fact, they tried so hard to skew results in favor of Intel's midrange that they even cannibalized Intel's own high end. For example, according to UserBenchmark, the i3-9350K is rated higher than the i9-10980XE.

For a similarly convenient quick-and-dirty hardware comparison website, we recommend using PassMark instead of UserBenchmark.

PassMark CPU comparison: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
PassMark GPU comparison: https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
Want to know more?: https://youtu.be/RQSBj2LKkWg`

[keen nacelle]

We have a command for it lol

That's how often it's used and how bad it is

[craggy warren]

what should i use insted

lol

[keen nacelle]

Passmark gpu comparison is good, but most benchmark sites won't compare between nvidia and amd super well, since most benchmarks prefer NVIDIA gpus

[craggy warren]

oh

[keen nacelle]

6700xt isn't tons better than the 4060 ti, probably around 5% if I had to guess. Compared side by side it's not a huge difference

It's main up side is the price it's at

[craggy warren]

yeah

[keen nacelle]

6800 at $390 or so almost matches the 3080

[craggy warren]

ASRock Radeon RX 6700 XT Challenger Pro Gaming Graphic Card, 12GB GDDR6 VRAM, AMD RDNA2 (RX6700XT CLP 12GO) ASRock Radeon RX 6700 XT Challenger D Gaming Graphic Card, 12GB GDDR6 VRAM, AMD RDNA2 (RX6700XT CLD 12G)

what is the deference?

they are both 6700xt

[keen nacelle]

It doesn't matter much

I'd just get the cheapest

You could also https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g6Y8QP

[craggy warren]

would https://www.newegg.com/xfx-radeon-rx-6700-xt-rx-67xtyjfdv/p/N82E16814150852 be a better substitute

[keen nacelle]

That's fine, the extra fan doesn't matter too much with a 6700xt

[craggy warren]

Thank you for all of your help!

[wicked hound]

The problem with synthetics is they don't usually work the best when comparing different architectures. Lots of ways that perf can change and one synthetic benchmark usually doesn't go through them all. Usually more ideal to find some list of decent game comparisons.

[solid glacier]

Don’t wanna Jynx anyhtung but my pc isn’t running smooth anymore…

[raven wharf]

we arent even to rnda 4 bro

[solid glacier]

xD

Whats the software whre i acn test to see if my ssds/ram is running right

i downloaded something called network 3.1-3.3 when i loaded a game bc it told me and ever since then my games arent smooth.

I do not get this why tf is it randomly Jsut happen like

That’s a whole reason I got a new pc

I’m running crystalmaek rn

[livid idol]

Leaks on performance 2 generations out, a good 3 years out, that's just laughable. Forget grains of salt, we need the whole jar.

[solid glacier]

Fal does this look good

[livid idol]

For a gen 4 drive that looks right

[solid glacier]

Bruh ugh idk what’s going on man

I really don’t

[livid idol]

It wouldn't be the first time a "required" program caused issues like this

[solid glacier]

It was that network thing

Network timing 3.2

For when I downloaded ready or not

[solid glacier]

Do yk what it is or nah

[livid idol]

That sounds like the kind of thing that would mess with UPnP or QoS, which can affect games especially on slow or busy networks.

[solid glacier]

what do i do to get rid of it?

[livid idol]

I suggest revo uninstaller

[solid glacier]

Is it safe to do?

[livid idol]

I wouldn't recommend it if it wasn't

What it does is scans the program before and after running the uninstaller, and gets rid of the leftovers. It's great for bloatware and OEM garbage.

[solid glacier]

Does it get rid of that network timing thingy

[livid idol]

It should be able to find and remove it

[solid glacier]

this?

[livid idol]

Yes

It has a nifty hunter/killer mode too, for programs that appear on your screen and you can't get rid of them or you don't know where they are

[solid glacier]

uh

[livid idol]

That's everything on the list?

[solid glacier]

yea for application wise

not window apps

[livid idol]

See if it's in the apps

[solid glacier]

nope

not there

[livid idol]

Starting to sound more like a rootkit every minute

[solid glacier]

it was a window upfate thing bc it said window netowrk timing etc

[livid idol]

Does it have anything that shows on screen? A window or something?

OH it was a windows update?

[solid glacier]

yea

[livid idol]

I thought you said it came with the game

That's a driver issue then

[solid glacier]

it did for me to go online on ready or not ti said i needed to update/download my netowrk timing

[livid idol]

I'm not seeing anyone else talking about it from a quick search, weird. I still think it's a bad driver, happens all the time with networking devices.

What motherboard did you have again?

[odd siren]

@solid glacier define not smooth

[solid glacier]

when i look around it feels like 6-hz

60hz

when i first got my pc it felt like i was getting the right fps now im not

[odd siren]

Rather than what it says like 200hz?

[solid glacier]

yep

[odd siren]

Ok next question

When you open some apps

Does it lag

Like

A LOT

[solid glacier]

also i noticed like 4 hours ago when i played ready or not i had like 200+ fps now im only getting 121 fps

nah not really

no lag

[odd siren]

Which cpu?

And I mean like, just opening, does it lag

[odd siren]

Not the app itself

[solid glacier]

nope

no lag

[odd siren]

Damn

I have half of your problems on my x3d

My other half is opening some apps to stupid amounts of lag

Pc freezes

I'd get rid of whatever you stuck on there that may have caused it

[livid idol]

This should be the latest driver for your ethernet card, much more updated than the one on winblows updates. https://www.realtek.com/en/directly-download?downloadid=9978235bfa480f7aa5ab71e57a8d5f2a

[solid glacier]

this

so ready or not

i downloaded my ethernet already though

i mean i can try that

[odd siren]

Sounds like bloatware

Some anti cheat can be incredibly invasive

[livid idol]

This version launched literally on christmas day so it's more up to date than what you have for sure

[solid glacier]

oo

so i clicked on download file

nothing happened

[livid idol]

Ok try from this page

https://www.realtek.com/en/component/zoo/category/network-interface-controllers-10-100-1000m-gigabit-ethernet-pci-express-software

You want this one

[livid idol]

Either works, I recommend the one with power saving

[solid glacier]

So the 2nd one,

?

[livid idol]

Yes

[solid glacier]

Ight it’s downloaded

Should I extract it

my downloads are now going really slow

wtff

[solid glacier]

Extract it?

[livid idol]

Yes

[livid idol]

Repair

[solid glacier]

alright its finished

[livid idol]

Reboot and run a speed test

[solid glacier]

A SSD speed test or what kind

Oh like WiFi speed test

[livid idol]

Well if you're on wifi you want this driver too https://download.msi.com/dvr_exe/mb/amd_wifi_driver.zip

It came out yesterday too

bluetooth for good measure https://download.msi.com/dvr_exe/mb/amd_bt_driver.zip

[solid glacier]

im only on ethernet

[solid glacier]

what spees test did u mean

[livid idol]

https:\speedtest.net

[livid idol]

Well that's a lot better than 88 KBps

That peak ping is concerning though

That's a full half second of no response

[solid glacier]

what do i do to fix that?

[livid idol]

Router reboot usually does it

[solid glacier]

oh okayy

hm now how do ik if that network timint thing got unistalled?

[solid glacier]

i mean i can unistall ready or not from this program maybeunistalling it from this will getrid of that

[livid idol]

From what I've seen, you can't know. But you can check the windows update logs and see what it installed, maybe uninstall that update.

[solid glacier]

where do i check window logs

[livid idol]

settings > windows update > update history

[solid glacier]

bruh it was this

[livid idol]

Ew .net updates

[solid glacier]

wait im not sure if it was that

the update had timings in it

[livid idol]

I think a malwarebytes scan would be appropriate just in case

[solid glacier]

nah that wasnt it. it was definally something it installed when i installed ready or not

[livid idol]

I'm still not convinced it wasn't a fake update with a rootkit.

[solid glacier]

yea let me try malware bytes

uhg

this

[livid idol]

Yes

The free version scans, the paid version is a standalone antivirus

Wait no that's the wrong logo

https://www.malwarebytes.com/

[solid glacier]

welp

[livid idol]

Eh, let it ride. You must have gotten it from softonic or something.

[solid glacier]

loks good

now waht

[livid idol]

It finished?

[solid glacier]

yea

in 20secs lol

[livid idol]

Good, you don't have a lot to scan after all and it's a fast ssd

You can uninstall malwarebytes now, it's usually good at picking up issues like rootkits

[solid glacier]

alright cool

Whats the next step?

unistall ready or not with that software i downloaded?

[livid idol]

Try a game and see if you have the same problems

[solid glacier]

to see if it helps

[livid idol]

Did you reboot the router btw

[solid glacier]

nope

didnt fix

yea like this is ridiculaus man it was running fine since i had the pc and now all of a sudden its not

[solid glacier]

nah not yet but i dont that would even help my problem though

@livid idol router is rebooted

[lone pond]

anyone know whats happening to this?

wait i cant sernt picks

ugh

@livid idol

i need help.

i have these black stripts on my screen

idk what to do

i think its the graphic card but i dont know if its harmful

[solid glacier]

take screen

shot

[lone pond]

I can’t send pictures

?

[solid glacier]

!DDU

[lone pond]

!ddu

?

!DDU

What does this do

What

How do I sent picture

[solid glacier]

Send it to my dms

[lone pond]

Ok

[solid glacier]

Yea idk maybe at this point I return all my parts and buy a prebuilt from a nice company

Smfh

Could be my temps maybe something is getitng to hot

I should check that

Just@ me Fal when your back

[solid glacier]

my twitch videos do randomly pause for a few secs then it freezes

[solid glacier]

Well my temps are fine

[livid idol]

?ddu

[neat venture]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[livid idol]

Solves a lot of graphics issues.
Sorry I'm out for the night, this fever is hitting hard.

[solid glacier]

Yea I did DDU didn’t help :/

[livid idol]

I meant for @lone pond

[solid glacier]

check dms when u can tommrow monring

[odd siren]

I think it's that game you installed with the other software

whatever it did screwed with your windows install

I'd try reinstall cos prebuilt value is trash

[solid glacier]

i deleted it i ddu still same issue

[odd siren]

reinstall *windows

[solid glacier]

so i just recoreded the gameplay and on the record itself the game looks smooth as heck like no 560hz

60hz

but on my end it feels like 60hz and isnt smooth

[odd siren]

yes

[solid glacier]

i wonder if its my display port cable but at the same time i dont think it is bc why would it just do that lol

i cant send the file bc its to big

[odd siren]

lemme ask a question

when you ddu how many things do you change to set up your pc again

like display settings

[solid glacier]

wdym?

[odd siren]

well when you ddu on AMD you have to for example, often set your display hz up

because it defaults to 60

[solid glacier]

ohh no i know itrs on 240hz lol

i always check

[odd siren]

flip screens around, arrange your desktop

the less things you flip in adrenalin the less likely it is to happen

also sometimes wallpaper engine can cause stutters

[solid glacier]

dont ghot that installed

[odd siren]

idk what that is

[solid glacier]

its my record of my game

of how smooth it looks in the recording

[odd siren]

I understand the stuttering my guy

I have an XTX lmao

and X3d

[solid glacier]

yea but

[odd siren]

when you DDU

[solid glacier]

i didnt have this issue before

[odd siren]

do you go straight into the game yes or no

[solid glacier]

and i had this same exact issue on my 69000xt

yes

[odd siren]

or do you change settings

[solid glacier]

after i ddu i go into the game

[odd siren]

and this is an entirely new build yes?

[solid glacier]

on rainbow its smooth on cod its smooth on fortnite its smooth on avatr it isnt

[solid glacier]

yes

its been working fine for 2 weeks now

and toady it hasntr

[odd siren]

ain't no way it's a hardware issue then

it's software or drivers

100000%

[solid glacier]

Yea i figured

but like what

it could be hardware though but my temps are all fine, my ssds are fine

my ram is fine i thin idfk

[odd siren]

I can't open the file cos I don't have an AV1 playback app on this system

[solid glacier]

frick

uh

[odd siren]

nope

if you have the same problem on two completely separate systems then it's absolutely not hardware

something on your install has caused the problem

like some app you might use or a certain anticheat like denuvo

[solid glacier]

i mean theres this

the only anti virus thing i have

[solid glacier]

havent had this problem UNTIL i downloaded ready or not

[odd siren]

that's a windows update glitch

[solid glacier]

and that downloaded some stupid netowrk timing

[odd siren]

how much space is left on your ssd

if your answer is more than 30% then there's just no way it's not related to whatever installed with that game

[solid glacier]

on my d drive? let me check

[odd siren]

yeah there's just no way it isn't software

I'm willing to put money down on it

[solid glacier]

hm okay so what should i do
reset windwos?

[odd siren]

reinstall from scratch

wipe the drive

[solid glacier]

i tried EVERYTHING on my other pc like legit i couldnt find the issues

besides download riva turner

and setting a fps limit thing

[odd siren]

rivatuner does nothing

[solid glacier]

that fixed iton my other pc a little bit

[solid glacier]

wont i have to redo my bios?

[odd siren]

what psu have you got again

[odd siren]

no

[solid glacier]

toughpower gf1 850w

aka thermaltake

[odd siren]

yeah no way

If anything in the world I'd be suspicious of your wall power in your building

that's it

dirty power > poor pc performance weirdness

but all the same

[solid glacier]

dirty power wym

[odd siren]

like not clean

[solid glacier]

like dust wise?

or like how my wires are going to the mobo

[odd siren]

like noisy, rough, poor filtered

[solid glacier]

ohh

its a brand new build so i dont think its that

[odd siren]

from your wall socket

no your house

[solid glacier]

OHH

[odd siren]

not your pc

[solid glacier]

nah its fine ngl

i think

idek

[odd siren]

Lmao

you'd have no idea

[solid glacier]

i recently redid them

also im using a surge protector

could that be any issue

[odd siren]

well then it's unlikely

then again there are disgusting electricians in this world who knows

[solid glacier]

ill try that last

so should i wipe my drive

or

[odd siren]

trying that would be getting a ups

no try reinstall windows completely

don't reset

reinstall

reset is a bandaid that doesn't always fix

[solid glacier]

yea so i gatta gert the win11 media tool on my usb right

[odd siren]

mhm

and delete your old install off of the ssd

[solid glacier]

hwo do i do that?

it gives me a option right

[odd siren]

mhm

in the "choose an install drive" section

you can choose the one with the previous install

which would probably be drive 0

and delete all drive 0 partitions

there'll be like 5 of them

[solid glacier]

i did this on my last system and it didnt work maybe it will work on this system but its gonna redownload windows so theres no way i can catch what it is i only got 4 games on my system, no anti virus, no weird carp either

[odd siren]

The way I see it

"Fool me once, shame on you"
"Fool me twice, shame on me"

[solid glacier]

i feel like it might be hardware though bc cod.fortnite, ready or not did run fine for a little bit then i ran fortnite for like 3 hours and thats when the issue started, after a play a game for a sorta long period of time, thats why i was thinking maybe ssd or ram

[odd siren]

I see you getting a prebuilt and you coming back with the exact same problems again

[solid glacier]

true

[odd siren]

the biggest and best test for issues