graphics-cards

[keen nacelle]

Yeah

Better if similar price too

[quasi flicker]

I see one for like $450

[keen nacelle]

Also is used 6800xt or better not an option?

Eh at $450 $50 more gets you a 4070 or 7800xt

I'd say 400 or lower

[quasi flicker]

I kind of still want DLSS

Oh, something else I just thought of is I still might need NVDEC

[odd siren]

rdna 3 looks fine

[quasi flicker]

For video transcoding?

[keen nacelle]

Yeah

It has av1

[odd siren]

for export encode

I haven't tried streaming it lately, I hear a mixed bag

[keen nacelle]

Are you streaming or need it for smthn else?

[quasi flicker]

I guess you probably also don't need DLSS at that point. What features does AMD have again?

[quasi flicker]

Media server

[keen nacelle]

Fsr 2.0

[keen nacelle]

It might matter then

[quasi flicker]

Usually try not to transcode on the fly and have the devices handle it, though

[keen nacelle]

Honestly 4070 could even pull a noticeable bit ahead of 3080 in that

[odd siren]

pretty much everything nvidia has except wide spread frame gen, better rt and blender performance

[odd siren]

it just has av1 it's not really better

[quasi flicker]

Okay so 7000 it is then

[keen nacelle]

Ah alr

[odd siren]

nvdec has performed mostly the same since 2000 series

and it's good enough that way

[quasi flicker]

So 7800 XT?

[odd siren]

yeah unless you desperately want dlss

not sure how that would apply for media server

[quasi flicker]

It wouldn't, that was for games

[odd siren]

I would say 7800xt is pretty good then

just don't tinker the options too much

[quasi flicker]

The main game I play is too old to even have functioning DX12 support, but the newer ones have DLSS

[odd siren]

it should stay very stable

[quasi flicker]

Not sure if it really does a ton, it might on my 2070S, but I doubt it would outside of certain circumstances on newer cards

So then any recommendations for 7800 XTs?

Or brands that usually do well with AMD cards

Not sure I trust Gigabyte anymore after flopping two generations of cards

I know Red Dragon did pretty good on the 5700 XT and it kind of seems like that trend has kept up through every 6000 card

Sapphire Pulse seems to get good reviews on PCPP

[odd siren]

cheapest, or otherwise a sapphire pulse

pulse is worth 10 or 15$ extra for the nice design features sapphire normally bakes in for maintenance and ease of use

same for xfx

[quasi flicker]

I think the pulse is $500 which is the same as the cheapest

So even better

[odd siren]

yeah it's normally on the cheap side

give it a go, see how you feel with it

if not we can come back and try a 3080 if you don't like the experience

[quasi flicker]

I think it'll be fine, the main game I play is Battlefront 2 and I'm pretty sure the only thing that will help that is a better graphics card

There are pretty much no modern features like DLSS or even functioning DX12 support in it because EA just abandoned it

Otherwise Minecraft, Starfield which ran fine without DLSS, Fortnite which has DLSS but I'm not sure it does much

[odd siren]

fortnite you can just do dx11 anyway

[quasi flicker]

Yeah

I honestly think nanites is better than DLSS anyway

[odd siren]

the only one there would be minecraft if you did some extreme graphic mods

it's a lump on AMD's gaming suite, RT def favours nvidia there

[quasi flicker]

Java Edition so all that really matters is GPU power

Kind of surprise that nobody has tried getting RT functioning in it

Do you know if AMD has any extra OpenGL bindings like Nvidia does?

[odd siren]

not my area of knowledge sorry

[quasi flicker]

No problem, I just know there's a mod that can utilize them, haven't tried it, though

[quasi flicker]

By maintenance do you mean replacing thermal paste and pads?

[odd siren]

fans, paste yeah

[quasi flicker]

That was a pain in the arse on my 2070S when the thermal paste turned into sand

[odd siren]

they really think things through

like you can just unscrew the fans and swap them on sapphire cards

[quasi flicker]

Oh

Nice

[odd siren]

no need to disassemble the whole damn thing

[quasi flicker]

Apparently they have a trade-in thing

Newegg

[merry glacier]

I think I'm going to try that trade in program, they'll give me $131 for my 6600xt, which would just be a hassle to sell 3rd party.

[vital oriole]

it's not even half bad

0 effort

you just ship it in

[quasi flicker]

$157 for my 2070S

[odd siren]

that's not bad at all

[merry glacier]

Not bad

[quasi flicker]

Knocks $150 off of the 7800 if they seem it good enough

It works other than some random VGA boot light I get occasionally that has literally no impact on it

[merry glacier]

I guess they just credit you after you pay the full price for a new card.

[quasi flicker]

Yeah, they refund that part of it after

[merry glacier]

Works for me

[quasi flicker]

You get a label and two weeks to send it in

[quasi flicker]

My friend got an offer of $86 for his Nitro+ 5700 XT lol

[cursive echo]

for a 14900k and 4090 whit 64g of ddr5 6500 a psu of 1000 is enough or i should go to 12000 to be safe

im also planning to run 2 monitor

[livid idol]

1000 should be more than fine unless you plan on overclocking both the CPU and GPU while loading both to 100%, which doesn't happen in gaming

The monitors have nothing to do with the power supply

[keen nacelle]

if you're gaming none of that aside from 4090 makes sense, but what fal said

[livid idol]

Yeah definitely don't buy a 14900k just for gaming

Or, at all in most cases

[cursive echo]

im running a 2k monitor want to most fps possible and also will use the pc for workstation . and i dont plan to upgrade anything for minimum 5 years so having the best or close to it will mean my pc will still be great in 5 years vs a weaker pc that will become too weak 👌

[odd siren]

12000W would be plenty for the pc, as well as half the house

💀

[keen nacelle]

are you in the us?

and what are you spending

[cursive echo]

canada and around 7 k for pc and monitor togheter

[livid idol]

Future proofing isn't possible btw

[cursive echo]

1200w lol my mistake . i dont plan to get a nuclear power plant

[cursive echo]

no but a better pc will last longer before it start to become too weak to play most game and other stuff

[livid idol]

You can spend $5k on a top of the line PC now and have a $1500 PC best it in 3-4 years, or you can get a $2000 PC now that's still epic, and another $2k PC in 3-4 years.

The 1080 ti is only 2 generations old and there's games it can't play

Alan Wake 2 being a prime example

[cursive echo]

is 3 generation , who is around 6 years old . 1080 - 2080 -3080 4080 and next years 5080 👌 and if u downgrade ur graphics in the game u can still play whit a 1080 and have around 60 fps

[livid idol]

Not in Alan Wake 2

The gtx Titan only gets 20 fps at 1080p medium

It's because the 10 series doesn't have mesh shaders so it has to render in software mode

[solid glacier]

Yo fal

So i had rivaturner off and it still felt great

[keen nacelle]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/t7m3HG

13900k is the same as a 14900k

[solid glacier]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xfgtQP Hows this list?

[ivory herald]

Quite better value for mostly gaming. I would just go up $10 for mp34 or similar instead of mp33.

[odd siren]

can be slightly better

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZZBTPF

could chuck that 100 saved into a white gpu like a nitro (silver but close enough)

e.g https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Kd8jJy

[solid glacier]

I dont really mind aesethics if it saves me money then ye

i dont wanna spend extra 100$ for colors yk

[solid glacier]

the cpu cooler is dif in this one than the list i put, isnt my cooler better?

[keen nacelle]

great

[solid glacier]

Wym

Im buying this once i cyber monday comes around

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LB9Rwc Heres my current pc but my is 3600mhz instead of 3200mhz, am i doing a worth it pgrade

i got the KF cpu

[odd siren]

it's better but pointles for a 7800x3d

[solid glacier]

Is there a bettter cpu i can get?

[odd siren]

than 7800x3d?

for games? no

there's really nothing truly better

not for price/performance

you'd pay wayyy more for slightly better with 14th gen, in the realm of maybe a couple %

if that

[solid glacier]

Oh gotcha

[solid glacier]

From my current build is it worth the upgrade

[odd siren]

over this? yes

damn G6

that's a nice psu

kinda worth keeping if you could

or sell it separate

[solid glacier]

Yea i can keep it i still got the build

[odd siren]

I'd say that's a significant upgrade then yea

you could keep this

[keen nacelle]

and hdd as a secondary drive, if wanted

[solid glacier]

Well im selling my pc as a whole for 1600$ the guy is getting it this week

[keen nacelle]

ahh

[ivory herald]

Btw I meant if you're getting a 2TB teamgroup mp33, do the mp34 instead. Not a big price difference.

[solid glacier]

ight bet

[solid glacier]

OH i meant better cpu cooler

Which one am i doing

[odd siren]

either or

if you want all white

bottom one

if you're ok with not all white, top one, $100 cheaper

[solid glacier]

what about cpu cooler

[odd siren]

the one I put is fine for a 7800x3d

[livid idol]

The 7800X3D runs on a stock cooler. You don't get any extra performance or anything from bigger coolers.

[random walrus]

Probably get less noise unless they've changed the stock coolers

[cursive echo]

is a bit better but not much in performance but there is other stuff that are better

[livid idol]

It doesn't come with a cooler so you have to buy one anyway, I'm just saying you don't need a better one

[random walrus]

Ah I see

[keen nacelle]

What?

[livid idol]

What "other stuff" is better? It's just a 13900k +200MHz

The improved memory controller has also been debunked

[cursive echo]

Is a bit faster and is cheaper so there is no reason to not get it if building a new pc whit intel

[odd siren]

literally a 13900ks

they changed the label, that's pretty much it

[cursive echo]

Is still a bit faster and also cheaper 🤷🏻‍♂️ you can have ur opinion is fine , i have looked benchmark all over the place and in most of them there is a slight improvement in speed . It maybe be not much to justify a new cpu gen is more like a 13950ks but is still a upgrade over the 13900ks . And since it is cheaper there is nothing to argu about is the better deal

[livid idol]

It's the same amount of "faster" that you can get with a 5 minute overclock

[odd siren]

literally this^

My 13900KS runs faster than most 14900K's.

[cursive echo]

Well benchmark say something else https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_i9_14900k-vs-intel_core_i9_13900ks

[keen nacelle]

Where is it cheaper

[odd siren]

and 13900K is cheaper than 14900K, while being the same

all 3 can do 6ghz

there's literally no variation in the design at all

[vital oriole]

how is a newer product cheaper lol

when the last gen with identical perf have been sold for 1 year

and prices have dropped, especially with introduction of this absolutely stupid refresh

[cursive echo]

14900k is currently on newegg.ca 799 when the 13900ks is 929 so yeah is cheaper and even whithout the sold is also cheaper a bit also since is maybe 2 or 3 % faster is not identical

[vital oriole]

are both even sold by newegg

and the 2-3% faster is the result of the slight clock bump

[keen nacelle]

Why are you buying only from newegg though

[vital oriole]

that too

[keen nacelle]

800 cad is already a bad price for any 13th or 14th gen i9

[vital oriole]

using only one place for reference isn't the right way

[keen nacelle]

13900kf $720 on memory express 14900kf $768 on memory express

Your money do what you want

[vital oriole]

oh, so this is a biased comparison

compares 13900ks to 14900k, damn

to be fair the 14th gen ks haven't released

but like, you can literally do a mild oc too on 13900k

so that defeats the point of paying 800 cad

[cursive echo]

even amazon have the same price and if u can oc the 13 u can also for the 14 removing any performance the 13 get from oc over the 14 😂

[keen nacelle]

13900k oced=14900k oced

Aside from binning

[vital oriole]

^

you can get a 13900k that oc better

and vice versa

they're also not the same price, looking into pcpartpicker

[livid idol]

14900k has the same overclocking potential as 13900k, meaning some 14900k chips can't go above the rated 6ghz on single core

[cursive echo]

but is still a faster cpu even if is 1% is still faster also even on pc part picker the price showed is cheaper for a 14900k so even if they are the same the 14900k is still the better deal

[vital oriole]

1%

[livid idol]

It's only faster if you don't bother to spend 5 minutes fixing it

[vital oriole]

for like 10% more cost

[livid idol]

1% is literally margin of error too

No one can tell the difference between 100 and 101 fps

[vital oriole]

13900k matches 14900kf in price, $768 cad

but if we're making it fair, $718 is what 13900kf goes for

[livid idol]

And with that comparison you get the iGPU on the processor vs no iGPU

[vital oriole]

exactly

[cursive echo]

again the 14900k is cheaper and even if is the same " when benchmark clearly show is a bit faster and every review on youtube " is still a better deal so i dont know what you keep arguying for no reason ...

[livid idol]

Cheaper if you only look at one website

2-3% is not worth it

[keen nacelle]

You're gonna buy what you're gonna buy

[livid idol]

The 13900k isn't even worth it

[keen nacelle]

Nothing of what we say is gonna change that clearly

[vital oriole]

https://www.vuugo.com/product/intel-core-i9-13900kf-bx8071513900kf/?tracking=5108053939762

[keen nacelle]

Vuugo big no no site

They charge absurd shipping rates

But same price on memory express

[vital oriole]

there's others too

ye

[livid idol]

Every review that says the 14900k is faster ALSO says don't buy it

[vital oriole]

don't buy into intel's trap of capitalizing off of fomo

https://www.newegg.ca/intel-core-i9-13900k-core-i9-13th-gen/p/N82E16819118412?Item=N82E16819118412&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-CAN&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-CAN&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ranMID=44589&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-dsumkOZJawX58nOaPAuh_Q

this is non kf

same price as 14900kf

[cursive echo]

but since is cheaper there is no reason to not buy it . is not a bad cpu it just dont have the performance of a new gen should have if it was released as a 13950ks or something like this everyone will be happy

[vital oriole]

https://www.newegg.ca/intel-core-i9-14900k-core-i9-14th-gen/p/N82E16819118464?Item=N82E16819118464&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-CAN&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-CAN&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ranMID=44589&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-KSf7J3r9BXoqkGdU5dFgNg

"cheaper"

[cursive echo]

yes cheaper . if you look the 13900ks price is close to 100$ more 🙂 also you showing kf model when im talking about ks and k only

https://www.newegg.ca/intel-core-i9-14900k-core-i9-14th-gen/p/N82E16819118462

here the 14900k

[keen nacelle]

Why are you buying from one retailer alone

[cursive echo]

here the 13900ks https://www.newegg.ca/intel-core-i9-13900ks-core-i9-13th-gen/p/n82e16819118446?item=19-118-446&id0=Google&id1=20727490044&id2=&id3=&id4=&id5=&id6=&id7=1002594&id8=&id9=x&id10=m&id11=&id12=EAIaIQobChMIof_fr-_TggMVyfXICh1URg_tEAAYASAAEgIfxfD_BwE&id13=Y&id14=&id15=&id16=&id17=&id18=&id19=&id20=&id21=&id22=&id23=&id24=&id25=&id26=&id27=&id28=&id29=&id30=14269018597697904940&id31=&id32=&id33=&id34=&utm_source=google&utm_medium=paid+search&utm_campaign=knc-googlekwlessca-search-broad-_-corporate-pmax&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAAD-YhmPWi18j62rAHjGGoeY4Fz_Ju&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIof_fr-_TggMVyfXICh1URg_tEAAYASAAEgIfxfD_BwE

[livid idol]

KS is definitely not worth the price anyway, it never was

[vital oriole]

why are you comparing 13900ks

[livid idol]

Ofc the KS is more expensive, they binned it, unlike the 14900k

[vital oriole]

because 14900k is 1% faster stock vs stock?

you can just oc a 13900k the same as 14900k

[livid idol]

You can also overclock a KS higher than a 14900K usually, because again it's binned P cores

[vital oriole]

it all comes down to binning

and if you're unlucky

ks can oc badly

and our point was that instead of paying more without igpu

you could pay less with

or pay the same with

compared to kf

[cursive echo]

is still faster stock and im not gonna overclocking it so for me is a better deal 🙂

[vital oriole]

if you're just gaming, 7800x3d is all ya need

for below 500 cad

[livid idol]

There's absolutely no reason for any gamer to buy a 13900k or a 14900k. Chances are you're not playing at the 1080p low/medium settings in the benchmarks if you're spending this much on a computer.

Once you increase graphics quality and/or resolution all that difference in performance disappears

[vital oriole]

https://www.newegg.ca/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-ryzen-7-7000-series/p/N82E16819113793?Item=N82E16819113793&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-CAN&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-CAN&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ranMID=44589&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-PpSO_a8PcAjg2gXRkaHOEQ

$449

also saves you on needing an aio

coz this runs well on single tower air cooler

[cursive echo]

thats your opinion not mine , what i need only me know it ... is like trying to tell me what shoes i should get ... lol everyone that buy these and use it im pretty sure they needed it otherwise they will not have buy it 👌 if i want the best and hve the max fps possible then i need it yes . for your own use if is too much is your need not mine

[hot folio]

Coming from a 13900k owner, there’s no need for it just for gaming alone, you won’t see any benefit with it over a 13600k and if you want the best gaming cpu, the 7800x3d exists

[vital oriole]

it's not an opinion

[hot folio]

7800x3d gets better fps in most games

[vital oriole]

we're stating facts

[livid idol]

None of what we've said is opinion

It's all backed by fact

[vital oriole]

and you literally have two 13900k owners telling you

[hot folio]

Only reason I bought mine was because i absolutely needed the multicore performance

[vital oriole]

to not get the latest refresh crap

[hot folio]

7800x3d saves you a lot of money, cheaper cooler and cheaper motherboard

[vital oriole]

we're not even paid a dime to provide you unfiltered, factual recommendations

[hot folio]

And you don’t need to spend $200+ on top of the line 8000MT/s+ RAM you won’t be able to run unless you have a $600 mobo

USD*

[vital oriole]

^

[livid idol]

Even a lot of $600+ boards have trouble at that speed

[vital oriole]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/3cdrmD

all you will ever want and need for games

for $812 cad

cpu, cooler, ram, board

has wifi too

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/DpZzkJ

meanwhile i9

[keen nacelle]

Isn't he doing workstation

[vital oriole]

ah

then 13900k is best bet

[hot folio]

All he’s been talking about is gaming fps so….

[vital oriole]

but he was talking about fps tho

[cursive echo]

what you saying are opinion yes . what you think is needed for gaming and not needed or too much are only your personnal opinion base on what your personnal need is if my need is to have the max fps possible then having a i9 is what i need ... also you dont know what im gonna do or not do . is like saying i dont need a race car when i want to have the max speed possible 😂 also i said i need it for workstation as well . and i never asked what cpu i should have i ask a question about a psu wattage ....

[cursive echo]

i mention workstation too

[hot folio]

What do you consider workstation?

[vital oriole]

game+workstation, sounds to me you'd want 7950x3d instead

keep the b650m board

[livid idol]

If you're doing both workstation and gaming consider the 7950X3D, you compromise very little workstation performance for much more gaming performance

[vital oriole]

and you don't need $200+ for a board too

on am5

it's a pretty nice trade

[cursive echo]

video editing , photoshop , 2d and 3 animation as well as gaming whit max graphic setting whit a 2k monitor whit the max fps possible

[livid idol]

Eh, cheapest DDR5 Z790 boards are starting at $160 USD so it's not that much difference. It is still a difference of at least $40.

[hot folio]

I wouldn’t trust a 14900k on such a cheap board personally

Also you’d be limiting the cpu with the ram speeds on low end boards wouldn’t you?

[cursive echo]

the difference between the two cpu is not big enough in gaming whit a 2 k monitor to change something and it also depend of the game some game have better fps whit intel so the lost in game vs the win in workstation are a better deal for me whit intel

[cursive echo]

my board is a z790e from asus almost 700$ for a board i dont think is a cheap one : p also my ram can faster than my cpu can already support

[coral yew]

not really sure if this is the place to ask but i since i bought the 6800xt and it came with the avatar frontiers of pandora game is there anyway to potentially give that code to someone else and have them use it? just since it does have to verify that the gpu you bought is in the system...

person id give it to doesnt live anywhere close by so not like i could just install the gpu into their system

[keen nacelle]

You gain nothing from spending that much on a board aside from a bit of io and maybe an m.2 slot or two unless you're ln2 overclocking

[livid idol]

Exactly what "win" are you referring to the 14900k getting?

[keen nacelle]

And doing major ram tuning

[hot folio]

If it’s anything about like 7400mt/s good luck getting that runnable without manually tuning it yourself

And Z790-E Strix is hot garbage

[vital oriole]

overpriced board basically

[hot folio]

Most boards with 4 dimm slots are pretty bad for Intel high speed DDR5

To get even 7400MT/s stable on my Z790 Aorus Master I had to spend almost 3 weeks constantly tinkering with voltages to get it stable and that’s one of the better 4dimmers

[random walrus]

Unless they've changed the system, you shouldn't need the exact card to get the key, any 6800xt should work (and maybe even some other Radeon 6000 series GPUs). You could also redeem the key on your PC and send it to whoever you want

[random walrus]

Might even be able to spoof the card model and claim it that way but that probably isn't worth it

[coral yew]

alright

[merry glacier]

$469.99 is pretty good for the 6800xt on newegg now.

Asrock model.

[merry glacier]

May not get any cheaper

[still veldt]

Is the 4070 12gb of Vram a significant downgrade from 4080 16gb?

for 1440p gaming

[keen nacelle]

Yes

7900xtx is $920 and slightly outmatches the 4080 though

7900xt is down to $710 and slightly beats the 4070 ti

[last maple]

Who is own

ZOTAC Gaming GeForce RTX 4090 AMP Extreme AIRO

And how is it??

[keen nacelle]

The best 4090 is the cheapest one

The coolers are all so overbuilt even the worst is better than a mediocre 3090 cooler

[odd siren]

Sadly they all seem to be 2K+ rn in the US

So I wouldn't buy one

[keen nacelle]

^

[keen nacelle]

What I find even funnier

Nvidia raising 4080 price now

It was down to like $1050 consistently or lower

Now it's back to $1100 or higher

And that's for the lesser known brands like galax

[odd siren]

That's probably because they're discontinuing all AD102/103 it seems

[keen nacelle]

Cheapest is ventus 3x at $1105

[odd siren]

Artificial inflation probably likely through christmas until mid Jan

[keen nacelle]

Which is laughable, almost $200 more than xtx

[odd siren]

Mhm

[still veldt]

Is it enough of a downgrade for the computer to feel dated in a few years?

[odd siren]

If you're specifically referring to the vram, no

Performance yes

But if vram worries you, go amd

[still veldt]

So 4070 would be fine with an AMD processor over an intel one?

[odd siren]

makes no difference to a gpu

both work, and in a gaming situation, basically the same going by any current day one

didn't we make you a list?

[still veldt]

I did, adding new ones people are giving me, changing stuff around etc

[odd siren]

what's your budget and what's the pc for

[still veldt]

Gaming, around 2500-3000 CAD

[odd siren]

I'll make another one

[keen nacelle]

Yes, but 4070 isn't great value

3000 cad a 4070 belongs nowhere near

That's like the $1500 3060 lists we were seeing two years ago

[odd siren]

@still veldt https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KkVbwg

[keen nacelle]

^^, also plenty of customization available for a different aesthetic if you care for looks

[odd siren]

pretty much

full white build, full rgb, all of it possible in that budget

this is just the most reasonably priced

[still veldt]

Damn thanks, does air cooling work better for that build?

Or just to stay under the 2500 price point

[odd siren]

it's more like, you could use an ice cube on a 7800x3d and it wouuldn't melt

[keen nacelle]

Also if you don't need that strong of a pc https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/6hWyVW
Or 7900xt same price, or 7800xt over 4070

[odd siren]

so a cheap air cooler is perfectly fine

[still veldt]

Thanks ill add this one as well

[still veldt]

Its that efficient?

[keen nacelle]

Doesn't an ice cube melt if it touches a cpu because if the metal that's used (ik analogy but I'm curious)

[keen nacelle]

Am5 is limited by the IHS thickness, past a certain point it just can't transfer any more heat

[odd siren]

it's that bottlenecked by it's own chip design that everything up to full custom loop cooling has the same result

white build
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/TbqWfy

forgot ram oops

[keen nacelle]

Wow felix smh

[odd siren]

fixed it

[keen nacelle]

Techie revoked

[odd siren]

the 4080 is there, but...

I wouldn't buy a 4080

not good value

[still veldt]

If the 4070 is going to be outdated, but the 4080 isn't good value, whats the most optimal graphics card this Black Friday?

[odd siren]

you could kinda do this
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/dtcNvj

[odd siren]

a used one

go get a used 3080 if you want a 4070

it's the same advice people gave out when the 20 series nvidia released

wanted a 2070? go get a 1080

2080? go get a 1080ti

[keen nacelle]

Xtx is best value gpu rn

If you want nvidia 1040 for a 4070 ti isn't terrible, otherwise go used.

[odd siren]

1040 4070ti where

oh trinity

actually

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/mFFHRK

this is a nice 1440p build in all white rgb

maybe I can find cheaper fans

i diid

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/nzkH99/thermalright-tl-s12w-x3-476-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-tl-s12w-x3

@still veldt wouldn't deviate from this at all.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/2HYbwg

use 1440p with it

fast cpu gpu, fast ram, ample fast storage, decent fans, decent case, white tax on psu but that's really it

[still veldt]

So 4070 Ti + AMD is the best deal rn? I won't be lacking in Vram and it won't become dated in a couple of years? All with good value.

[still veldt]

I'll call this the super optimized build

[odd siren]

I would say this would last you quite a while with standard 1440p

yeah, it's about as optimised as I could make it

bar the psu ofc but for the aesthetic, $15 is fine

alternatively, find a used 3090 that's white instead and run that

for a similar, maybe slightly higher price

[still veldt]

3090 over the 40 series?

[odd siren]

I mean a 3090 is near 4070 Ti performance

just uses more power and lacks AV1 in exchange for more vram basically

[still veldt]

Dang, my noob ass hear thinking that all 40 series > 30 series

So a 3090 is better than 4060?

[odd siren]

yes

bigger number not better

[still veldt]

Honestly getting help like this is why I joined the discord

thank you so much

[odd siren]

it's all good

I mean most new gen cards are pretty poor value overall

vs the used market

you find a decent used gpu, it can be quite a good day

there's obvious tradeoffs but proper TLC and it ends up being worth it

but yeah, a 4070ti isn't too bad in value

we can only say that because everyone and their dog complained about the card before it released

so nvidia lowered the price on it

[odd siren]

they also don't teach any of this in the ads you read

there's no one stop manual

marketing is just a huge trap

[still veldt]

I told my buddy I was going to buy a pre-build at my work this holidays, he just laughed and shook his head

Now I understand why

O.O

[odd siren]

yeah prebuilts are terrible value these days

a few hours of learning and you can competently build something that would run better, safer, and cheaper

it's just like lego, but for adults

longer warranties too

[merry glacier]

I've been looking at used cards for awhile now for 1440p UW and all of the used cards are so old. No warranty either.

Decided I'll just bite the bullet and snag a new one on sale. Or try to.

[keen nacelle]

7900xt is down to 710 which isn't bad

Ah rip nvm sale ended

730 cheapest now

4070 ti same price and depends on what games you play which is better

[merry glacier]

I'm actually looking for 6800xt or 7800 deal on bf/cm. Looking for a $450 deal on either. Don't matter the model.

[odd siren]

7800xt should be 460 rn I swear

oh nvm that's 6800xt

and it's 470

(469.99)

bacca what the tiktok say

[keen nacelle]

Honestly running uw 1440p, you might want to check what games you play that support dlss and which support fsr 2.0. It could be very useful in some scenarios

Normally I don't recommend frame gen, but pushing that monitor at high fps it could make a significant difference

[odd siren]

*fsr 3 knocks on the door *

[keen nacelle]

Wait is it at 3 now?

[odd siren]

yes

frame gen is on both platforms now

and 30/20 series with dlss 3.5

getting 40 series for it is just getting ahead of the curve and being an early adopter

and the results are middling anyway like any other FG

[keen nacelle]

Oh yeah I just mean check what games they plan on playing supports which

Bc don't some games support dlss and not fsr

And vice versa

[keen nacelle]

Image not loading for me

Nvm

Reloaded discord

[odd siren]

AFMF (FG for AMD) works on basically any modern game

essentially

that's their goal

[keen nacelle]

Ah cool, so then doesn't matter either way

[odd siren]

mhm

[merry glacier]

Yea If that were a 7800 I would have gotten it today. We'll see if it goes on sale.

[keen nacelle]

Does fsr frame gen work on nvidia cards too? I know fsr 2.0 does but idk if frame gen is different

[odd siren]

I would say for stability sake, go 7800 over 6800

both are pretty solid but there's less nonsense on 7000 radeon

[merry glacier]

Cool appreciate it

[keen nacelle]

Does 7800xt also oc better?

[odd siren]

eh idk

I mean if you daily these cards you stick to light OC if anything anyway

[merry glacier]

Do y'all think they'll eventually have a sale on 7800? I know it's unlikely since it's so new.

[odd siren]

if not now then not for a while

[merry glacier]

I'm just gonna be patient for now lol.

[keen nacelle]

It wouldn't surprise me if we saw some minor discounts with black Friday cyber Monday

[odd siren]

black friday is honestly the biggest sales of the year

I wouldn't hesitate now

[keen nacelle]

But I doubt major discounts

[odd siren]

commit to a lane

6800xt for 470 is good value

[keen nacelle]

Also r/hardwareswap

[odd siren]

but I'd also say 500 for 7800xt is kinda worth it for the extra featureset

[keen nacelle]

Could make a post looking for 6800xt+ 3080+ and see if you get any hits

[fading glacier]

most discounts on that level of tech are like 5% tops

[odd siren]

now would be a good time to try used tbh

[keen nacelle]

Eh there's sometimes better, like xtx when it went from 950 to 830

[fading glacier]

they are kinda greedy with bf and cm these days

[odd siren]

830 xtx was godly

[keen nacelle]

Incredible value

$200 more than 6950xt was costing before 7000 series launch for a what, 60% improvement?

[odd siren]

40%?

it put it well in line with 6000 series value

the 710 XT as well

[keen nacelle]

Ah, still great value

[merry glacier]

If anything I'll probably fork over the 500 for new 7800, I'd like to have a warranty.

[odd siren]

both will have equal length warranties if you buy them new today

warranties don't expire from the day the hardware releases, they start ticking down from the moment you buy it

[keen nacelle]

Also might be 6950xt discounts on bf/cm

Stock is low so a lot of places just trying to clear it out

Well not a lot of places

But yknow what I mean

[odd siren]

I'm surprised stock of last gen is lasting longer than some of current gen (if the rumours are to be believed)

and SOME PEOPLE said it would be long gone before that happens

[velvet grail]

Bruh the taped graphics cards

[keen nacelle]

I think i have to repaste my gpu soon and i really don't want to

i dropped things on my motherboard about ten times remounting it 4 times

i dont think i can handle repasting a gpu

[ivory herald]

Getting all correct pads is all I've worried about, but I want to repaste my gpu. Temps are crazy good in winter though.

[keen nacelle]

my 3060 ti has started idling close to 50c somehow

underload it isn't too bad, stays under 75c but it gets load asl

[ivory herald]

Deshrounding could be a 1st option, w/ 120/140mm fans. Might do this myself someday (especially if I repaste perhaps)

[keen nacelle]

Yo

15% cash back on newegg site wide through Microsoft
https://www.bing.com/shop/deals?FORM=DEALS01&ocid=DEALS01

Meaning can get 7800xt for $425

[odd siren]

Yeah that's the guy

Act quick

[keen nacelle]

Or can get an xtx for $780 which is insane value, but obviously that is much more than the gpus you were looking at

$620 or so for a 7900xtx

[merry glacier]

Good looking out, I'll look into it!

[merry glacier]

Do you get the cash back after you buy it?

[keen nacelle]

Yeah unfortunately, I also don't quite know how it works. It might take a bit to get the cash back

But even if you still go 7800xt/4070 or whatever similar cost gpu, just means you get free money back

[merry glacier]

It's not working for me.

I'll try again when I get off at 10.

[merry glacier]

I tried but everything looks the same at checkout, so if someone has used this let me know if it actually works.

[keen nacelle]

I believe you get the cash back post check out

One sec

That link is crashing my discord

Ok then

Deleting that

[random walrus]

Cashback is typically something you get after purchase

Otherwise it would just be a discount

[merry glacier]

How will Bing know to give me cash back?

[vital oriole]

only once your purchase has been confirmed as paid and delivered

it's not a discount

it's simply a reward for buying stuff

[random walrus]

typically you install a browser extension

[hasty monolith]

Is forspoken worth picking up to test ue5 on sale or its a skip game?

[livid idol]

Skip

Combat gets super repetitive pretty quick and the story is lackluster

[hasty monolith]

I guess i should wait til kingdom hearts 4 release for ue5 game

[vivid arch]

anyone have a 5500XT GPU?

[tiny flame]

Hey! 👋🏾
What do you guys think of the graphic card?
PowerColor Fighter Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card

[keen nacelle]

Depends on price

[tiny flame]

I have it already, I'm building a PC and waiting on the other parts

Here's the list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2q3m34

[keen nacelle]

Did you order all this already?

[tiny flame]

Yep

[keen nacelle]

If you'd be open to it, I would personally change some things around but it isn't required

[tiny flame]

Like what?

Personally I rather and am fine with the CPU and power supply and case so it godda be smth else

If motherboard, preferably wifi but it's kinda too late to change but what did you have in mind

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yJxKcH

Biggest things are cooler, mobo, and ssd imo

6700xt is good, can get them for $300-310 but $625 isn't terrible

[random walrus]

Yeah that cooler is way overpriced

And you're gonna want 1TB SSD minimum

[keen nacelle]

But obviously it's your choice what you go with, either way you'll have a functional, capable pc

[tiny flame]

I ordered a 500GB SSD cuz I'm gonna just use that as boot drive

I already have a fast 1tb hdd

[random walrus]

Hard drives aren't fast

[tiny flame]

It works 🤷🏽‍♀️

[random walrus]

Unless you're comparing it to a floppy disk lmao

Anyways if you're spending $40 might as well get a TB

[tiny flame]

I bought it already and I didn't have a prob with that price for the cooler

I didn't wanna spend more than $60 on a cooler

Had the budget for each part

[odd siren]

Throw my two cents in as well
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k6sF4M

[tiny flame]

Why not the 7600x though?

[odd siren]

Bit cheaper, but both lists are good

[odd siren]

Same cpu

One's cheaper

Also runs cooler than the other (7600>7600x)

[tiny flame]

Just that the x offers more overclock

[odd siren]

Not really no

[tiny flame]

Hmm

[odd siren]

They're both the same cpu

[keen nacelle]

It doesnt really make much sense to set a budget for each part, the phantom spirit is among the three best heatsinks and is $20 something cheaper

And yeah 7600 is about 1% worse than the 7600x.

[odd siren]

And AM5 you don't really benefit from getting extra overclock on cpu

[random walrus]

And a $15-20 cooler is enough for the 7600

[keen nacelle]

At each price bracket the allocation of budget for each part changes

[tiny flame]

Ah. Well thanks for that. But I'm comfortable with the cooler though

[keen nacelle]

So it makes more sense to set a total budget

[tiny flame]

Yeh I had a total budget but I had in the frame of mind how much I'd wanna spend on each part

[keen nacelle]

Also can get 7600 for $150 off tiktok shop

Sold and shipped by newegg

[tiny flame]

I had that in mind first though but eh 🥲

Think I should order a tb?

[keen nacelle]

I would, or 2tb off tiktok shop also sold by wegg is $42-48

M371, p34a60, or p41 plus on tt shop for 2tb

[tiny flame]

I'll still use the 500gb as my boot drive

[keen nacelle]

That's fine, but having a separate boot drive from game drive doesn't really help as long as you keep 250gb or so free

[tiny flame]

It's not to help anything

Just want to not use my boot drive as my drive to store regular files on

And I'm getting the things on Amazon

[tiny flame]

Also why did you change the of case in this?

[odd siren]

Same style case

Just shorter and much cheaper

[odd siren]

I do this

[tiny flame]

Hm. I prefer my case

[odd siren]

I have a game and work partition as well, saves me thinking too hard about what's on where

[tiny flame]

Exactly

[odd siren]

They're literally the same, one's shorter lol

[tiny flame]

One comes with 3 fans at the front

And I'm putting 2 at the top and one in the back

[odd siren]

Yes, the other does too if it was on sale

But bacca threw 3 way better fans in with the g300a

Still cheaper overall

Phanteks stock fans aren't amazing in any capacity

They're fans, they work, but not the best by any stretch

Thermalright c12c's however are up there amongst the best and they cost pennies to boot

[tiny flame]

What I planned to do was partition 250GB and another 250GB for like personal backups and the 1TB to store my regular game shizz and others

[odd siren]

Yeah that shouldn't be hard to do

[tiny flame]

It isn't hard lol

I was just gonna add an HDD to the equation which I already had

I don't think it will cost me severe performance though?

[odd siren]

I mean throwing an existing one in? Should be fine

Expect hdd levels of gaming performance though

Some games nowadays need an ssd just to run properly at all

[tiny flame]

Oh

Then I might just invest in the extra SSD then

[odd siren]

It would be worth yeah

HDD's are still fine for most single player games and just old files/static storage for long term

No harm in still using it

[tiny flame]

I am gonna play games from time to time like Fortnite and Halo Infinite

And school work

[odd siren]

For 6700xt(?)/6800

Use DX11 fortnite imo

The drawbacks of dx12 aren't really worth it anyway, but I'd lean towards the higher fps situation on those cards

Even if it doesn't look quite as good

[tiny flame]

It isn't really for gaming I was looking at, just that I want a system that can perform at reasonable levels

Gaming levels and fast

If you understand

[odd siren]

It'll be fine for all the things you suggested

[tiny flame]

Not really a game person yk

[odd siren]

Not really but I suppose

[tiny flame]

Just on my leisure time if I feel for a game I will do a an hour or more

[odd siren]

Oh like, not specifically those games?

[tiny flame]

Yeah, those games and Roblox from time to time

[odd siren]

Be more than ample with a 6700xt/6800

Go 1080p with a 6700xt for halo infinite

1440p for 6800

[tiny flame]

Reason why? I'm just curous

[odd siren]

Just performance

[tiny flame]

Oh

[odd siren]

One would make a good 1080p experience, the other makes the cut of 1440p quite reasonably

[tiny flame]

That is because of my chip?

[odd siren]

Gpu

All gpu my guy

[tiny flame]

Oh

Interesting

I was just curious, I have my personal opinions already but just wanted to know which point of view you were coming from. 🙌

[odd siren]

It's all good

I aim to be helpful, not overbearing (as opposite as it may seem)

[tiny flame]

But I will consider before the end of the night if I should really just order a TB

[odd siren]

Mmm

For those games I would

[tiny flame]

Nah, you're good. Thank you so much! You too @keen nacelle & @random walrus

[odd siren]

All 3 are multiplayer, roblox would probably be lethargic to it

But infinite would definitely appreciate a ssd

[tiny flame]

Ah

Really do appreciate your input. I been around different pc builds with my dad and others so I'm kinda just taking in their influence towards different things

[odd siren]

Ah, he does a lot of this stuff does he

[tiny flame]

Cuz one person said it would be fine to just use my HDD instead of getting a new drive but it might be well worth it getting the SSD

[odd siren]

It's dependent on game for sure

I can't say it's all one way or the other

But heavy games appreciate SSD's for sure

[tiny flame]

Yeah that's fair

[odd siren]

And infinite is one of them

When I got my first pc a few years back, I'd run single player games on the hdd, then all my multiplayer games on the main ssd

It makes a huge difference to loading into a game, not just for you but for everyone

Less waiting for it to start

Say, what might take 20 seconds to load a team slayer map in halo

Takes 5 or so on an ssd instead

It adds up

Single player it's at your prompt and leisure so it taking longer should be inconsequential

But ye they aren't all like that now, some yearn really strongly for an ssd

Especially direct storage native games

[tiny flame]

Gonna get this one: https://a.co/d/25VZnkK

[tiny flame]

Yk it didn't really pique my mind that the drives also contribute to the load time of the games

[keen nacelle]

Only up to a certain extent

Gen 4 compared to gen 3 doesn't make much if any of a difference in games

I'd do this for a 500gb drive
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FYM48d/solidigm-p41-plus-500-gb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-ssdpfknu512gzx1

[tiny flame]

Any reason why?

[odd siren]

it's a really good drive

without going into too much detail, it has rand performance in spades

[keen nacelle]

Good and cheap

[odd siren]

and rand is what you want for games, normal stuff to run fast and load fast

[tiny flame]

acer Predator GM7000 1TB NVMe Gen4 Gaming SSD, M.2 2280, Compatible with PS5, PCIe 4.0 Internal PC Solid State Hard Drive Up to 7400MB/s - BL.9BWWR.105 https://a.co/d/fnfK3Cd

Look at that one

[keen nacelle]

Ntb, one sec

That's the best ssd around that price, but it won't really benefit you

[tiny flame]

Yeah, alrighty

Thanks

Hopefully will get everything before 2nd week of December

I ordered the motherboard off newegg

[vivid arch]

anyone have a 5500xt?

or exerpience in that card

[keen nacelle]

I mean I know about gpus

Why?

What is going on?

[vivid arch]

this is a gpu specific issue or somethin, but

im having flickering display issues on my other monitor and i went to update my drivers for my rx 5500xt and it's still flickering, so when i tried to set it to primary project display, keeps making the disconnect driver sound.

i've tried uninstalling and reinstalling my drivers
DDU

[keen nacelle]

Ddu doesn't work well on amd, I think adrenalin gives an option to fresh install somewhere

[vivid arch]

did that too

i've had it up to here with this gpu

not just me as well, did google searches and came up with similar experiences

[keen nacelle]

It could be the gpu is on its way out

Could also be the pcie slot potentially?

[vivid arch]

that suckks

but when im not lazy, i'll change the card to a diff pcie slot

[wicked hound]

Have you tried:

• Using different monitors from a different setup
• Using different video cables on the non-working monitor
• Using different ports on the GPU
• Using only the working monitor by itself, then using only the non-working monitor by itself
• Lowering GPU core/memory frequency (underclocking)
• Disabling custom monitor stuff like VRR (Variable Refresh Rate, so basically Freesync)
• Lowering PCIe gen in BIOS (Set to Gen3 instead of Gen4/Auto)
• Closing all unneeded background processes and checking if it still happens, then test processes individually like games

[trim sage]

What graphics card should I get to pair with my i9 12900k??

[livid idol]

Whichever one you can afford

[odd siren]

Try a new display cable for that monitor

A better one

Flickering can be signal integrity loss from the cable not up to scratch/giving out over time

Otherwise yeah could be the gpu port or something hardware integral

[vivid arch]

any type of cable i should look out for?

[odd siren]

a good one

it's non descript

try displayport 2.1/ hdmi 2.1

or just a different one at all

[vivid arch]

answer i needed, ty

thought any regular dp to hdmi worked, but i had this issue for a 2 months but had this card for almost 2 years

any reason why it would just happen out of the blue?

[odd siren]

you probably don't need one that good, but they're inexpensive at short lengths over older ones, so it's worth just getting a good one for long term

I mean

like any tech

randomly dying one day is a thing

It's my guess to the issue anyway, try just any old different monitor cable to see if it works first

save you the what, $8? buying a new one that isn't needed

[vivid arch]

the thing is i don't have another DP to HDMI lying around anywhere lol

[odd siren]

dp to hdmi?

[vivid arch]

im probably the only one in the house using that type of cable for my dual monitor setup

[odd siren]

ah.

[vivid arch]

mhm

[odd siren]

ahhh.

yes that uses a transcoder I think

[vivid arch]

since my monitor (which is having the issue) is hooked up to

[odd siren]

uh

try a different device if you can

if not yeah get a hdmi only or dp only

transcode cables are touch and go in my experience

[vivid arch]

mb, after checking again, here's how it goes lol

my one cable from tv to monitor is hdmi to dp, works very well, and is my main monitor, other one is my hdmi to dp, same thing from monitor to pc, and thats where the flickering only happens, so yeah, could just be cable issues

could happen randomly, or when im in a game, hard to explain, but i'll just pick up a cable when i get the time

ty

[odd siren]

can you swap the cables around to see if the issue is the specific to the cable?

[vivid arch]

correction once again lmao, it's actually HDMI to HDMI and DP to HDMI, my blinking issue is happening to my second monitor which is DP to HDMI so yea lemme change it

one sec

[odd siren]

yeah I'd try that

[vivid arch]

Well after doing that my other monitor will not come on

Safe to assume cable is garbo

[odd siren]

kekw

yeah $8 fix

go get a good hdmi

don't bother with dp to hdmi unless the hdmi spec on your gpu is WAY under par

[vivid arch]

What's weird tho is why does the cable work with the one monitor, but jot the othe4

forgive my stupidity, but just curious

[odd siren]

bandwidth loss probably

[vivid arch]

cause im gonna have to explain this to people if they have similar issues

[odd siren]

if a cable can't transmit that data over the distance, it will intermittently flicker

[vivid arch]

but if it's not receiving the amount or not enough data it fails?

resulting in black screen

[odd siren]

cables can go with time, especially ones that have tech built in that require power

what this reminds me of is my hdmi active cables

they lasted 6 months each

when they couldn't reliably work anymore, they started flickering, until eventually nothing

[odd siren]

ye

if it can't meet what the transmitted spec is, the screen goes black

it fails

[vivid arch]

well, it's my dp to hdmi, my monitor doesn't have a dp port unfortunetly

either i need a 2.1 cable or a new monitor

xd

[odd siren]

mhm

just go with a good hdmi cable imo

what gpu is this

[vivid arch]

rx 5500xt

but why now, why didn't it first happen when i got the card 2 years ago

[odd siren]

oh yeah that has hdmi 2.0b

you can just get a good hdmi cable

unless that monitor is some insane 4k 120/1080p 540/1440p 240 screen

but I doubt that with a 5500xt

[vivid arch]

loool

ok, any good brands u recommend?

[odd siren]

idk, tech is funny

[vivid arch]

i should start using that to customers that ask why their stuff aint working no more

[odd siren]

dtech on amazon if any, but really any bunny can make a hdmi 2.0b cable

I just wouldn't bother with dp to hdmi anymore

[vivid arch]

but i don't have any other choice since the card has 3DP 1 HDMI

and both my monitors only support HDMI

unless i wanna go for a DP to VGA connection xd

[odd siren]

vga to hdmi works iirc

quite well

[vivid arch]

but my card doesn't have vga lool

[odd siren]

it's the same data stream just a different plug

sadge

[vivid arch]

oh i see

[odd siren]

welp, maybe time to change gpu? lol

[vivid arch]

u want card to have hdmi and monitor vga

i want to so bad, but broke af

[odd siren]

I don't really have a cheap answer for dp to hdmi

[vivid arch]

im looking at the 30 series nvidia

[odd siren]

you could get like a used 1080/2070 or better

some 30 series have dual hdmi

[vivid arch]

last i checked, they're still overpriced af

[odd siren]

SOME

yes

don't buy new nvidia

like almost ever

[vivid arch]

nah even 2nd hand

people will still push for scalper price

which makes me sad af

[odd siren]

how much can you spend

just at all

[vivid arch]

0 until tomorrow xd

[odd siren]

what about tomorrow lol

[vivid arch]

uh idk, rn i see someone selling their asus 3060 on marketplace 12 GB 330

sounds yummy

[odd siren]

330 is gross

you can get a 6800 almost for that much, brand new

good 50%+ faster

[vivid arch]

hm, will have to look into the b6800 then

how much retail?

[odd siren]

369.99

but they have a cashback sale for 15% on Microsoft/bing rewards in #tech-deals

that would put it near 320

question would then be what cpu and psu do you have

[vivid arch]

where do u see this price? im checking new egg, and they're blowing me a new egg

699 minimum i see

[odd siren]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Hg92FT/xfx-radeon-rx-6800-16-gb-speedster-swft-319-video-card-rx-68xlaqfd9

[vivid arch]

im in canada btw lol

[odd siren]

oh canada

ohhhh

ok

no canada is different

lol

[vivid arch]

were a different breed

k well gonna have to do research later

[odd siren]

pick this

[vivid arch]

but lemme add u fren

[odd siren]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/rh7scf/gigabyte-gaming-oc-radeon-rx-7600-xt-8-gb-video-card-gv-r76gaming-oc-8gd

or this

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/G9ytt6/gigabyte-radeon-rx-6600-8-gb-eagle-video-card-gv-r66eagle-8gd

gigabyte is useful here, they often put 2 hdmi on their cards

you'll have to check the cards each time for it though

both these cards you should be able to stick right into whatever pc you have too

no change of kit cos a 5500xt is similar tdp I think

well the 6600 is

the 7600 is a bit more

but it's probably fine? unless your psu is garbage

[vivid arch]

sent u a request

[odd siren]

Just ask in here later my guy, someone else will pick up the pieces after me

[vivid arch]

aw damn, u were so helpful

ight then i understand, when wiull look into those cards, or maybe just go back to nvidia

[odd siren]

I'll still be around

[odd siren]

Gigabyte has some 4060 options but they cost more

[vivid arch]

my 1070 kicked until it died couple years ago

[odd siren]

or try used gigabyte 30 series

you really want something with 2 hdmi

[vivid arch]

be honest, is DLSS 3.0 worth it

[odd siren]

no

AMD has frame gen now too

and they're working on a universal version, so far it's been good

Nvidia only has better ray tracing and blender to their advantage

if neither of those things matter, it's not worth spending all the extra for nvidia imo

[vivid arch]

ok, cause everywhere i look left and right, games are more developed focused on nvidia

which made me so worried after i built my pc

[odd siren]

nahhh

AMD has gotten good

like really good

over the last 2 years

[vivid arch]

as long as i can run VR it's all i give a damn about

[odd siren]

hmmm

VR I'd lean a bit towards nv

but

AMD is still usable

[vivid arch]

the card i talked about was still running it fine

[odd siren]

nv is a little better for stability

[vivid arch]

oh actually

another thing

while playing vr yesterday, i never had this happen to me, but the intermittent issue of my monitor just disconnecting from the monitor kept on happening while playing vr

[odd siren]

I see

[vivid arch]

so does lean more towards the cable thing, ig

[odd siren]

ye

I'd get one of the two gpus I recc'd above, then get a $5 hdmi 2.0

[vivid arch]

lmao, not 2.1?

[odd siren]

you can if you want

no reason not to

it's only if you want to save a couple $

[vivid arch]

https://tenor.com/view/money-red-dead-redemption-video-game-i-want-cash-gif-17943480

[odd siren]

I would go minimum 2.0b

2.1 ideal

[vivid arch]

7600 or 6600

ofc it would be the 7600, just want to hear from u tho

since u helped alot

[odd siren]

7600 imo would be better imo

imo imo

[keen nacelle]

6650xt or 6600xt also depend on price

[odd siren]

nah

he needs 2 hdmi

[keen nacelle]

Ah alr

[odd siren]

I didn't see an XT

[keen nacelle]

Why not just use an hdmi to dp adapter?

[odd siren]

cos they suck

[keen nacelle]

Ah

[vivid arch]

damn, u really looked out for me

true pc enthusiasts you all are

[odd siren]

yeah, specifically those two above have 2 hdmi

[keen nacelle]

Also what about igpu for a second display?

[odd siren]

ooo that's a thought

[vivid arch]

igpu?

[keen nacelle]

Gpu built into cpu

[odd siren]

the cpu's internal gpu

[vivid arch]

cpu is

[keen nacelle]

Processor

[vivid arch]

i know

1 sec lol

im drawing a blank

r5 5600x so no igpu

[odd siren]

ah

yeah so 7600 or 6600

[vivid arch]

are hdmi cards becoming obsolete due to DP?

[odd siren]

for 7600 just double check your psu's full name then let us know

[odd siren]

nah the port is just expensive to manufacture onto a board

[vivid arch]

ahh

[odd siren]

just to make sure it's up to the task

the 6600 it should have 0 issue

7600 should be ok but you never know

measure twice, cut once

as they all say

[vivid arch]

i mean i could get a 6600, but 7600 is an extra 10 bucks

canada prices and availability

[odd siren]

yeah which is totally worth it

7600

6600

[vivid arch]

were the 7k series just announced or are we coming close to 8k series announcement

[odd siren]

and remember it's these SPECIFIC cards

[odd siren]

a year ago

there's no other models of these cards that have 2 hdmi

so remember this

[vivid arch]

do u think they could announce 2hdmi ports for their next gens?

[odd siren]

it's these specific ones

[vivid arch]

lol

ty

[odd siren]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/G9ytt6/gigabyte-radeon-rx-6600-8-gb-eagle-video-card-gv-r66eagle-8gd
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/rh7scf/gigabyte-gaming-oc-radeon-rx-7600-xt-8-gb-video-card-gv-r76gaming-oc-8gd

I just wanna make triple sure of that

so you don't come back with like, an asrock 7600 lol

[vivid arch]

i might as well just toss my monitors out and just get 2 new monitors, these ones are so ancient lmao

since it's just the monitors holding me back

[odd siren]

Ehhh I mean if you were gonna do that, don't need to double down on a specific gpu lol

[vivid arch]

trueee

do i need to head over to monitors and tv's for help

or do u got me on this one too

[odd siren]

nah I'm not quite up to scratch on those these days

I also gotta jet in a bit

[vivid arch]

ty guys for all of ur help, will not be forgotten @keen nacelle

[odd siren]

np

[keen nacelle]

Are you just replacing gpu?

If so yeah what Felix Said

If not might be worth changing cpu/mobo

[vivid arch]

Not changing anything besides either the GPU, or monitors

[keen nacelle]

Yeah then what felix said

[vivid arch]

lol ty

[solid glacier]

Yo fal it feels like my rivaTurner isnt capping my fps

Like its smooth butnot as smooth as it used to be it feel slike my fps isnt capped but it is

[wraith wagon]

4070 ti update by me I like because it wont go over 65c highest without benchmark it is around 56c rendering cycles in blender

also the VRAM is not a problem with the games I have played so far like Alan Wake 2 max graphics and it can run 80+ FPS with dlss quality and FG

Blender

[livid idol]

Task manager is garbage for reading GPU stats in particular

For one it measures usage differently, and another point is it doesn't tell you what the temperature is measuring

[wraith wagon]

This better

[livid idol]

Quite a bit better

[wraith wagon]

Or this too

highest temp so far rendering in blender is 50c

BALL

[keen nacelle]

Yo https://www.zotacstore.com/us/zt-a30800d-10plhr-o

Best value you'll get for what you need aside from used

[merry glacier]

I went ahead and got a 7800xt with the 15% off with bing and 6600xt trade in.

Worked out well thank you for your help! @keen nacelle

[keen nacelle]

Ah nice, and np!

7800xt extra vram will likely make a difference for you anyways

[merry glacier]

I still don't understand how 1440p uw is more demanding than 4k though. There's more pixels to push with 4k if I understand correctly.

3440x1440

[keen nacelle]

Normally yeah, but with the way uw works it stretches it kinda? I'm not exactly certain how it works, felix might be able to explain better

[merry glacier]

It's all good I just chose the gigabyte model 7800xt

[keen nacelle]

$425 right? Incredible value

It's already decent value at $500

[merry glacier]

Yea and take off about a hundred for my trade in. It's in great shape.

[keen nacelle]

$325 7800xt even better

[wraith wagon]

I can't even watch YouTube videos full screen with my 1440p 27" because I had a small 15" 1080p laptop screen for 3 years and it feels like a TV