graphics-cards

[wraith wagon]

Ya from what I have found is that I need studio to use AV1

[fading glacier]

i think is for the ok check xD mine do the same, check the 4 red leds then white turn on and off and pc starts xD

weird stuff

[somber vector]

What would be the best gpu for around $135

[livid idol]

A used 6600

[coral yew]

is there any GPUs that can outperform a 2080 super currently for less than $400 that also has more than 8GB of VRAM?

[keen nacelle]

6700xt or 6800

But upgrading from a 2080 super I wouldn't go to either of those

It's not really a big perf jump

6700xt maybe 10% at most, 6800 maybe 20%?

[coral yew]

alright

[keen nacelle]

If you could find a 6800xt/6900xt/6950xt/3080 used around $400 that'd be a worthwhile upgrade

[coral yew]

thanks

ive just been having issues with performance with this card and its over 3 years old at this point and im wanting to upgrade as im also being limited in most games by the VRAM

actually no its nearly 4 years isnt it lmao

oh nope

[keen nacelle]

Ah alright, but I would recommend spending a bit more or going used

New lowest I'd recommend is 7800xt

If you're fine with used, try making a post on r/hardwareswap if you've a reddit account

[coral yew]

alright thanks

[fading glacier]

yeah 400usd to upgrade from a 2080s to anything worthwile is kinda hard, used market is the only choice for that amount of money

[ivory herald]

$250ish upgrade if we count sale of old gpu.

[oak rivet]

wonder if any used 4070 already at 400 or below

[livid idol]

No

[fading glacier]

hard to find 40 series used cards yet

same for amd 7000 series

come back next year

[hot bough]

Possibly a 3080 if your lucky.

[fading glacier]

must be pretty lucky indeed to find one below 400

[keen nacelle]

Yeah, 6800xt more likely

[fading glacier]

but as bacca said, his best bet is to get a 6800xt with a bit more money

[wraith wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/back-to-the-future-back-to-the-past-flying-car-gif-14179778

[supple grove]

not if it's used https://www.ebay.com/itm/155181583986?

there are a ton of them around $390, which makes me kinda annoyed that I got my 3070 for $400 a couple months ago

[fading glacier]

well, seems like they are most common these days than i thought

[supple grove]

yeah, the price has been steadily decreasing.

I really want to upgrade, but I have no reason to do so, and I'm flat broke

[fading glacier]

yup, a 3070 is still a solid card

you can sit and wait for next gen instead

[keen nacelle]

Oh I thought they were still around $420-430, nice

[supple grove]

tbh as long as the games I play don't get some graphical update I should be fine for a few more years

[supple grove]

yeah, they've been hovering around $400 for a few weeks now

[fading glacier]

most likely the next 3-4 years at tthe very minimum

[supple grove]

The next time I upgrade my pc it'll just be getting a new one

[fading glacier]

besides, most of the triple a recent games are just not that great

[supple grove]

13500, 3070, 32gb ram, 5tb storage, I'm good for a while

[keen nacelle]

The most recent game I've played is warzone 2, and I played that like twice

[supple grove]

Yeah, and I'm not the type to get new games anyways

[fading glacier]

jokes on you, i have a 4080 just to play rimworld

[keen nacelle]

There really haven't been many new releases that interest me

I've a 3060 ti just to play valorant and minecraft pretty much

[supple grove]

I have a 3070 to play minecraft

[fading glacier]

last good game i played was baldur gate

[keen nacelle]

My partner has a 5700xt to do homework

[fading glacier]

my sis has a 3060ti just to make tiktoks

e_e

[supple grove]

I play games with replayability, so no triple a story games

[keen nacelle]

As in just like Google docs and classroom

[supple grove]

My sis has a 6800 to play roblox and minecraft

[supple grove]

I mean, why not

[supple grove]

(I hate story games and open world games)

[fading glacier]

there are some interesting ones, like baldur gate 3 ngl

[supple grove]

$60

The most I've spent on a game was $50 for fh5 whatever the biggest dlc bundle was

[fading glacier]

same, i bought a heavy bundle last xmas with that as well

[keen nacelle]

Same

Which has been most new releases

[fading glacier]

for now im only looking forward to mw3

[supple grove]

humble bundle is a life saver for getting games that I want for cheap

I wanted stray for a bit, then I realized it's $20 for 5-10 hours of gameplay in a story mode type game

[keen nacelle]

I just got the $10 bundle with rounds, plate up and whatever those other games were

[fading glacier]

yeah stray seemed pretty good but way too short

[keen nacelle]

Same, it might be the first call of duty I've actually wanted to but

[supple grove]

I just wanted one of the games, since I already had most of the rest, but I didn't want to buy games I already had.

[keen nacelle]

The only other one I've bought is cold war

Unless you count bo3 which I bought in 2019 to play modded zombies

[keen nacelle]

Yeah I used I think four of the games, gave stick fight away and two of the others I couldn't even find someone to give the codes to lol

Boomerang fu was one of them

Keywe I think was the other?

[supple grove]

I already had stick fight and one of the others

[keen nacelle]

Yeah I had stick fight too

[supple grove]

great game honestly

[keen nacelle]

I didn't have any of the others but just didn't care for those two

[supple grove]

When I play modded stick fight with friends it's so fun

[keen nacelle]

I've never modded it, I didn't even know you could. Is it just workshop content?

[supple grove]

It's this mod loader thing

[keen nacelle]

I might dm you about that sometime, if that's alright

[supple grove]

yeah sure

I haven't done it for a while though

[modest tide]

Anyone know what would be a good GPU for gaming PC

[livid idol]

In what budget?

Best right now is the 4090, no contest

[modest tide]

Any kind I believe. Im just looking on how much I need to save up for a good GPU and for the rest so far

[livid idol]

What resolution are you targeting?

[raven wharf]

i want the xtx so bad https://youtu.be/JIsFqX4LgZI?si=mwKj3ulrlIR_W-GR

[hot bough]

We would need to know your wants such as:

• Max budget
• Target resolution and frames
• CPU it's being paired with
• Also do you care about using it for productivity such as Blender, Premier, etc

[modest tide]

Oh ok, I wasnt sure my bad. I'm really new to all this stuff so a lot of it I don't understand. I know my max budget I think is going to be 3000$ for every thing. I think th CPU I'm going with is Intel Core i5-10600K 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor but I can also change it. I haven't bought anything yet just wanting to know what's best to get

[hot bough]

I have a moment so I can help you out.

First off, $3000 is this including monitor, keyboard, mice, etc?

Second, are you planning on using this rig for productivity as well?

[modest tide]

I think we already have the mice, monitor, keyboard, and mouse.

[hot bough]

What resolution are you playing at then?

Or would you like to upgrade?

[modest tide]

I think so?

[hot bough]

What productivity apps? Blender, Cad, Video Editing software, etc?

[modest tide]

My brothers PC had a 1060 I think for the GPU I don't really know. Just need something to run big games like ark and such

[hot bough]

Neat, a fellow Ark player.

[modest tide]

I think we uses blender but don't know anything about those

[hot bough]

Okay, so AMD is out then gpu wise.

AMD $#!7s the bed in Blender gpu wise.

What resolution do you currently play at and do you want to upgrade the monitor?

[keen nacelle]

Pls no on the 10600k

$2200 or less gets you 7800x3d 4090 iirc

[random walrus]

Or if not a 7800x3d at least a current gen chip

[keen nacelle]

13600k or 14700k if needing multi core likely

[keen nacelle]

What monitor do you have?

I'm driving rn but when I get home I could give you a general idea of a list

[modest tide]

I'm not to sure? It's a bit old I know that much

[keen nacelle]

If you're not buying rn, then prices change basically daily

So a list today might not be great in a week

[hot bough]

Please let us know so we can figure out what gpu you'd be looking at.

And also what Bacca says is true.

[keen nacelle]

I'll include a new monitor in the 3k budget

Just in case

[hot bough]

Btw, Bacca he's looking to play games like Ark so be sure to include a good amount of ram.

Ark loves ram at high settings.

[modest tide]

That's true, I'm not able to play the ark ascended with the GPU I have right now so I'm looking for something good for that

[hot bough]

@modest tide any style preferences?

Black, White, RGB etc?

[modest tide]

Not really anything works

[hot bough]

I am guessing you don't want to do overclocking?

[keen nacelle]

This is a general idea https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PdXmCd

Apexs might be better I threw it together quickly

If you get 7800x3d off tiktok shop it's $320

[modest tide]

Ah ok gotcha

[keen nacelle]

Monitor I'd say m32u and prob switch cpu mobo and cooler, since with that monitor it's over budget

Or drop gpu to 4080 and go 1440p

[hot bough]

do you want wifi?

[modest tide]

I believe so?

[modest tide]

Alright

[keen nacelle]

Here, with the m32u https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y8MfdH

[modest tide]

Alright thank you

[livid idol]

Not at current 4090 pricing, it's up to $1800 for the cheapest

[heady turtle]

Xtx 7800x3d maybe

[keen nacelle]

1670 rn, but yeah i was wrong about 2200

[livid idol]

Oh did it dip today? It was $1800 yesterday

[keen nacelle]

unless pcp is misreporting it yeah

[livid idol]

Oh it's a gamestop 💀

At least that way you can use rewards for it

[keen nacelle]

cutting corners can almost do 2200 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fNznpB

[heady turtle]

Eighteen hundred? Wtf it was 1600 for ages

[livid idol]

US export bans are coming

[heady turtle]

Ah

[livid idol]

Plus incoming black friday so a lot of GPUs are going up in price temporarily so they can slash it next month and make it look like a deal

[lone pond]

Yo got a buddy looking to sell his 2080
Super but he said it has some thermal issues (I’m gonna ask what specifically after he tells me the AIB) but he said it’s already been repadded and repasted

He’s curious how much he should sell it for

[lone pond]

Okay so it sounds like he thinks it's thermal damage because he ran the PC out of the box with the foam packing for a little while

Also should probably mention Euros, I dunno what the market is like in Germany

[hot folio]

I sold mine for $285

[lone pond]

How recent was that

[hot bough]

Considering the current market, I think around $250 max considering you can pickup a new 3060 which beats it for $270.

At least that's what I'd do if I am trying to be fair for both me and the client.

[keen nacelle]

The 3060 does not beat the 2080 super whatsoever

The 3060 is between the 2070 and 2070 super

2080s fully working without issue probably worth around 200

[hot bough]

Oh, super.

Misread, thought I read 2080.

[lone pond]

Well there’s some thermal issues

[spare relic]

you're a thermal issue

[hot bough]

Is it thermal throttling or running fine?

[lone pond]

Wanna say it’s running fine but the fans seem to be ramping up according to him

He went ahead and just bought a 4070

So he wants to get rid of the card

[hot bough]

Noise can be a negative so I'd say $180.

Though if he markets it right he can probably sell it for $200 like Bacca said.

[lone pond]

Yeah just realized the card is over half a decade old

[hot folio]

Back in late April iirc

[lone pond]

So that was a little while back

Hmmm

[balmy magnet]

so i have an eVGA 3080 FTW3 and an OG Lian Li O11D, the glass is a little close to the power wires, is there a 3x8pin adapter that you folks would recommend? I would stay w/ vertical mount but the pcie power cables are a bit tight/close to the 24-pin and USB-C front cable

[coral yew]

so im just realizing do RX 6000 series GPUs not have USB-C ports on them? i occasionaly do VR

i have a quest so its not a huge issue if it doesnt but i do prefer using a wired connection over wireless

oh seems 7000 series doesnt either

[livid idol]

30 and 40 series usually don't have C ports either

That was mostly a 20 series feature

[random walrus]

you can also do usb A thru the motherboard

At least for the Q2. not sure about the newer ones

For me, it loses charge while playing bc USB A doesnt supply quite enough. But if it's fully charged beforehand I get at least 4 hours of playtime. Maybe more but I get a headache after like 2-3hrs.

I believe if you get a router or wifi card/antenna for your PC and make a hotspot for the headset airlink works pretty damn good as well

[coral yew]

Ah... hadn't realized

I have a wifi card but I took it out after changing mobo and CPU since I now have ethernet in my room and anyways I had an issue with PC and microcenter broke it so yeah...

Basically the antennae are loose and constantly fall out on their own

[dreamy laurel]

Some do

I think the 1st party amd versions do

[keen nacelle]

Can confirm from experience

[coral yew]

Huh well I'm probably not going to be able to get first party

[keen nacelle]

What do you need usb c for?

Oh quest

Why not just use a USB c case or mobo port? I just used a USB a to USB c cable for my quest 2, and plugged it into the cases USB

[livid idol]

You do get (slightly) better VR performance using a GPU port

And it was a nice feature when not as many boards and cases supported C

But yeah it's not nearly as important these days

[raven wharf]

its still happening

nothing is by it

wrong channel but still

[livid idol]

Maybe contact corsair and have them send a replacement, they're pretty good with warranty support

[raven wharf]

like rma?

[livid idol]

Yeah

Or if you're in the return period contact the seller

[raven wharf]

i actually got it from a best buy

it was the only part i physically went to get

[livid idol]

They'll swap it in a heartbeat then, but you'll probably have to bring the cables too

[cedar creek]

Question for the smart people here lmao

Friend got a new gpu, removed old one installed new one. No display. Put old one back and now also no display. Tried different cables/monitors. Removed CMOS. It powers up and spins fans though on the new card.

His specs are ryzen 3200g 16gb 3200mhz ram ddr4 b450 mobo (ds3h) I do believe by pictures.

[hot bough]

https://tenor.com/view/zotac-3080-rtx-rtx3080-nvidia-gif-18908478

[livid idol]

Try connecting the video to the motherboard so it's using the iGPU

You should be able to DDU the drivers using that and get it all cleaned up to install fresh

?ddu

... grr

[cedar creek]

Tried that already still no display

Already did the ddu too

He said anyways

[livid idol]

No display from the GPU or the iGPU? Is the monitor on the right input? Sometimes they'll switch on their own

[cedar creek]

Both

And yes right input on monitor

For some reason also, old gpu had no power but now has power but no display after cmos reset?

Idek what to say about that lmao

[livid idol]

Could be the cmos clear wasn't successful, sometimes it can take a few tries

[cedar creek]

Okay

It’s like what pull it for 5 mins right

CMOS

[livid idol]

5-15 min

[cedar creek]

Okay

[livid idol]

You do have a cmos clear jumper too

[cedar creek]

I told him to try it again

Idek what that is lol

[livid idol]

It's by the front panel headers

[cedar creek]

Ah okay

Okay okay

[cedar creek]

It’s on but monitor shows asus out of range

It wasn’t a gigabyte board

Thought it was though

[livid idol]

Most boards will have that jumper and they mostly work the same anyway

[cedar creek]

So old gpu gets power and has that weird display on monitor now

The “asus out of range”

Told him to clear cmos one more time

[livid idol]

Hmm, maybe try factory reset on the monitor

Could be a weird setting issue

[cedar creek]

Could be

Definitely a strange issue

[livid idol]

Like the resolution it's trying to display is too low for the monitor

[cedar creek]

Just weird. Pc is weird sometimes lol

Like old gpu had power. Removed it installed new one and had no display. Tries all the options to solve it with nothing. Installs old one, has no power clears cmos it has power again? Lmao

[livid idol]

Weird behavior like that is often attributable to the motherboard or the power supply

[cedar creek]

I was starting to lean towards the motherboard when there was no output from igpu

[livid idol]

The GPU will try to load up to full power to make sure the PSU is up to the minimum it needs and if that triggers the PSU then it won't power on correctly

[cedar creek]

But wanted to ask here cause y’all some smart ppl lol

Well the thing is is that the new gpu powered up and all, but not the old one

And also both had no display of course

[livid idol]

A last option I'd try is no GPU, let the system sit unplugged for 30 minutes to reset the power supply, and then try to boot off the iGPU

[cedar creek]

Okay

[livid idol]

If that still doesn't work you can most likely call that the motherboard, or less likely a peripheral or storage thing, maybe memory but it was fine before so 🤷‍♂️

[cedar creek]

I told him

He’s trying the last option you put

[cedar creek]

Okay

So it posted with the old gpu

But not the new one

Hmm

It works now, here apparently is the “no post issue”

[hot bough]

Oh looks like you mods already handled it 👍

[livid idol]

DM that next time

[hot bough]

Will do.

[coral yew]

sooo my GPU shouldnt be at 90% usage in a game while only drawing 20W right? CPU is at 25% as well and game is at 5 fps

[keen nacelle]

What are you using yo report usage and wattage

[coral yew]

seemed to be my graphics settings i changed them and now it seems fine but yeah seemed weird it did that

[keen nacelle]

And what game?

[coral yew]

baldurs gate 3 and it was based off nvidia's performance thing

[keen nacelle]

It mightve been smthn like high vram usage but low actual utilization

[livid idol]

What clock speed is the gpu at

[coral yew]

well now its at about 2000MHz idk what it was at

[livid idol]

If that's a recurring issue then try ddu

[coral yew]

alright thanks

i also did just realize i have a driver update available

[keen nacelle]

Or just updating drivers first, if you're not on new ones

[coral yew]

okay... did it again checked clock speed before and it was normal and then game crashed and discord and then also now one of my displays isnt on...

[keen nacelle]

I second what fal said after that lol

[coral yew]

i was kinda thinking it mightve had to do with the driver update but no way to really tell as usually with the updates i just have the game and discord crash suddenly it doesnt really mess up performance

[cedar creek]

Finally uhhh got the psu, just I went ahead and got the 1050w gf-a3

[lone pond]

Idek where this question goes
If your GPU has a 3 pin RGB header
Can you use it to control RGB products from a different manufacturer

Follow up
What kind of idiot company is Asus that their RGB software doesn't detect their own RGB fans

[heady turtle]

Rgb is a fat mess

[solemn panther]

It is. Why I have plenty of it

[viscid vault]

If it's like...on display for someone it's pretty cool

If it's just gonna sit in your room alone forever then yeah it's a bit wasteful

[raven wharf]

i am updating to new drivers

for the first time in like 3 months

uh

[coral yew]

So when I upgrade my gpu will I need to DDU before I install the AMD gpu or should I before I remove the nvidia gpu? I could also just do it without a GPU installed since I have a iGPU

[vital oriole]

ddu with the current gpu still on

then pop new gpu in

[coral yew]

Alright thanks

[sonic holly]

Anybody know if there aren't any 24 GB NVIDIA laptop GPUs from the current gen?

Or more VRAm

Assuming they are all quadros?

[vital oriole]

there's none rn, used to exist but it's turing

only one laptop had 24

[sonic holly]

damn, that sucks big time

I could have sworn there were workstation laptops with more VRAM

[vital oriole]

ye not anymore

16 is the ceiling

[sonic holly]

Damn, that hella sucks

I was hoping for 24 or 36

[livid idol]

It's really hard to pack that much memory into a laptop. Space is at a premium on them, and you can't just use both sides of the PCB like a desktop GPU.

[sonic holly]

I don't even know where to find a worstation GPU for laptops

ah, I found one

[livid idol]

You could always go the eGPU route

[sonic holly]

thats not plasible for what I was hoping for. If worse comes to worst, I can just use my desktop, but I wanted to do stuff on the go, but 16GB VRAM is a little too restricted I think

[vital oriole]

usb4 egpu

[sonic holly]

I am really shocked that 16GB is the limit

[sonic holly]

thats not plausible for on the go compute

[livid idol]

Until we get higher density memory that's the way it is

[vital oriole]

ye

it's hard in such a small package

[livid idol]

GDDR6W would be a nice way to double the cap but nothing uses that yet

[sonic holly]

damn, alrighty. I guess there goes the idea I had in mind

almost 6k for an RTX500-Ada

damn

but wow, thats a kick ass laptop lmao

17.3 inch 144hz HDR 1000 mini LED display with 100% DCI-P3

128GB RAM, 13980hx

all to be paired with a measily 16GB VRAM

[vital oriole]

jesus

[livid idol]

That is a pretty baller laptop

[sonic holly]

I don't get why anybody would ever want specs that high with a limited VRAM capacity like that. 24GB feels restrictive already, i couldn't imagine losing 33% of my capacity

I realyl would have though that ML laptops would have been a thing

I suppose in that case, I could use a light and powerful laptop and just stream back to my desktop, cause 16 GB VRAM is too restrictive for anything I am gonna be doing

in that case, a laptop with just CPU and no DGPU with killer battery would be the move for me

[vital oriole]

https://www.asus.com/laptops/for-creators/proart-studiobook/proart-studiobook-one-w590/

only laptop in the world

[sonic holly]

interesting

yeah, unfortunately, that laptop sacrifices on a lot of other things.

Oh well, i am sure a light weight laptop with killer battery would be a better option for me

I don't actually have to be training things on the go. That would actually be impractical, but I could use it to clarify my datasets and such on the go and then shoot them back to my desktop and train on the go that way

I am really surprised this server doesn't have a dedicated laptop channel. Would #electronics work?

@vital orioleshould I hop over there? Or where would you recommend for laptop discussions?

[vital oriole]

probably electronics ys

[sonic holly]

cool, thanks

[lunar aspen]

Anyone know what's up with gpu prices recently?

Or when they might drop again?

They have just been skyrocketing recently

Oh nvm just saw the China thing

Any idea when they might drop tho? This Thursday?

[livid idol]

https://tenor.com/view/8ball-bart-simpson-shaking-shake-magic-ball-gif-17725278

[harsh compass]

Hey! I tried updating the graphics card (rx5500xt) and when it updates adrenaline it says it needs to restart so i do.. and then when it comes back up nothing will open not even task manager and nothing will load.. I already reset windows and it worked but i tried to update it again and now nothing will open again

[cerulean rover]

Can you run windows in safe mode and use DDU to uninstall the drivers before trying to cleanly install again?

[hot bough]

I think I've found the absolute biggest and imo coolest 4090 model in the market.

348.2 x 160 x 72.6 mm

ASPIRING Colorful GeForce RTX 4090 Vulcan OC

[fading glacier]

colorful make some nice looking cards

[hot bough]

It looks like the child between the Aorus master and the supreme.

It's gorgeous.

[rustic pulsar]

MATRIX

4090 matrix

i think its actually binned higher than the hof

[hot bough]

The matrix is bigger then the GPU I listed???

That thing would be huge

Wait no, just checked, the colorful is a little bigger.

[fading glacier]

to be fair almost all 4090s looks kinda equal

to me seems a lot more like the trio

i mean, looked at the images and i saw almost my trio there xD

strix and the hof are the ones that look a lot different

and yeah forgot about the matrix, that one is the coolest of the bunch... sadly the most expensive as well

[hot bough]

My favorites so far for looks are:
Colorful
Aorus/Matrix/Supreme
Striz
Hof

[zealous lion]

I wish I could see some Colorful ones reach North America but if there is a single 4090 I would want to get it'd be the Palit Gamerock.... true I'd prefer to get a 4080 but the one seller thst ships to NA that carrys them only has 4090 Gamerock left

[raven wharf]

What’s the deal with intel’s battlemage? I just heard about it in a random video from a few months ago

[livid idol]

The deal is they're working on it™️

No details

[raven wharf]

What’s like expected performance

Like 4070-4080?

[livid idol]

No idea

No reliable leaks that I've seen, and it would still be early enough in the development cycle that anything could change later

[raven wharf]

In your super duper smart opinion what do you think

[fading glacier]

there is no material to form an opinion on the matter

[livid idol]

I don't like to guess without any information

[fading glacier]

😄

[livid idol]

From what Intel has said it's, and I quote, "a lot better than alchemist"

[fading glacier]

my guesstimation is that it will be better than alchemist as well

[raven wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/hog-exploding-exploding-hog-funny-idiot-gif-13702011850125732811

wait what the why do I have anime role

[fading glacier]

why not?

[raven wharf]

Cause I don’t watch anime

[rain sand]

Is a 7800xt & 7800x3d a good pair?

[spare relic]

no they will cancel out and your computer will disappear

[livid idol]

Lol

Yes that's a fine combo

Just make sure when people ask what hardware you have, you're very ambiguous about it and say "7800s", just the way AMD intended

[hot bough]

Yes, lmao.

[ivory herald]

If gaming, perhaps take $50-100 from cpu choice and put it towards a 7900XT or such. 7800XT is within about 5% of a 6800 XT for example.

[dreamy laurel]

No clue

Im excited for it tho

Alchemist was pretty much a public test as bad as that sounds

Battlemage should fix a lot of the huge issues with arc

Especially the ones that cant be fixed by driver patches

[raven wharf]

I really hope intel does well

So they force AMD to do better

lol

My only complaint with AMD with rdna3 is how they named/priced the 7900 XT/XTX

XTX should of been the XT, XT should of been the 7800 XT

[keen nacelle]

amds naming is plain stupid across the board

5500 is a gpu and a cpu, and 5500xt

5600, 5600x, 5600, 5600xt, are two cpus two gpus

3600 is a cpu, 3600xt is a cpu, 3600x is a cpu

yet 5700 is a gpu, 5700xt is a gpu, but 5700x is a cpu

7700x 7700xt 7600/7600x and 7600

meanwhile nvidia also has bad naming but not because of the names, because each gpu should've been moved up a tier

or cost a lot less

4080 should be 1k or less, 4090 is fine at 1600 but last gen we at least had 3080 that was $700 and performed around 10% worse in gaming

now 4080 is $450 less and performs 25-30% worse

[raven wharf]

Ok well they are holding down the lines on two fronts compared to intels and nvidias just cpu/gpus respectively so they get a pass, the naming thing was because the 7900 XT is a greedy upsell

And also yes ik intel has gpus

[keen nacelle]

yeah 7900xt shoulad been around 650

[raven wharf]

Should of been the 7800 XT at that price

[keen nacelle]

oh like 7900xt should have been named 7800xt and cost 600?

[raven wharf]

Yes

[keen nacelle]

yeah agreed

[raven wharf]

Prob would of been 700 at launch more realistically

If they did that where do you think they would of put the 7900 XT (XTX)

Like 850-900?

[keen nacelle]

xtx at 950 is pretty solid, it's been as low as 830 which is incredible value

[raven wharf]

Damn that’s crazy

If they did good naming schemes with better prices they could of owned this generation

[keen nacelle]

875 I'd say would be sweet spot, and lower than that you're lucky asl

4080 at around 925 wouldn't be a bad sell

[quartz gull]

I've had this bug to where my GPU randomly cuts display port for .5 seconds ever since getting my 30 series GPU and then onto 40 series

I've had this bug for years

Apparently it's a bug with the PCIE for alder/raptor lake and setting the PCIE version from auto to 4 completely fixed the issue

I've had it FOR YEARS on 3 different builds

And the solution was that easy

[vital oriole]

auto flicking between pcie versions

yucky

[sharp trellis]

Yikes lol

I got a Asus TUF oc 4070Ti on way today

To replace my 7900xt

And send my 7900xt in rma

Getting tired of driver timeout crashes

One display port is corrupted, like you can’t get it to display at native resolution

And be able to use amd drivers.

103 C 💀

Repaste helped it go down by 20 degrees, still didnt solve my driver timeouts

[sharp trellis]

heck yeah, I used to have asus tuf 3070ti

it was great

[vital oriole]

is it the cheapest one there is?

with 40 series you basically don't need to worry about aibs lol

they're all decent enough

[sharp trellis]

aibs?

[vital oriole]

board partners

aka just third party gpu makers

[heady turtle]

Basically you don't need to worry about which model you get, the cheapest is the best

[sharp trellis]

I see

that's good

[keen nacelle]

That is not allowed here just like you were told yesterday.

No one is buying a gpu from a random person on discord with the username "vald bagina"

You have the humor of a 13 year old

[sharp trellis]

lol

[tawdry hornet]

Is this okay?

Hi guys I’m working on water cooling my GPU trying to apply thermal pads

I messed up on cutting and had to cut some extra bits so I can cover the rest of the bits

[wicked hound]

If the thermal interface is too thick you can bend the GPU PCB or lose coldplate contact with the die. So be careful with stacking thermal pads like that.

[tawdry hornet]

@wicked hound ok thank you what about this? Would this be better?

[wicked hound]

That'll likely have less issues. Inductors usually dont need thermal pads tho, some custom blocks design around not having them. Tho they are nice to have for reducing coil whine.
I like to use calipers to make sure the PCB isnt bending after I've installed the block.

[tawdry hornet]

Or do you think I should just buy new thermal pads? Oh my manual for the EKWB site says to put them there.

@wicked hound

[wicked hound]

They arent bad to have, just need to be cautious of it. I think EK has good manuals now, but Im pretty sure many generations ago their manuals were telling users to put thermal pads on the inductors and not the mosfets. Which is misinformation.

So I've lost my trust in manuals always being accurate

Idk anything about your specific block as I dont have it, let alone a 4090. So can only give some recommendations on double checking stuff yourself.

[tawdry hornet]

So you think I'm good then?

[wicked hound]

Most likely yes

[solid glacier]

If im using a 2nd monitor does it draw enough power for it to effect any performance while imgaming?

[random walrus]

Power as in PSU wattage? No. Power as in GPU resources? Maybe a bit but it's probably negligible

[solid glacier]

Yea gpu resources

[random walrus]

wouldn't worry too much about it. Often the larger problem is Windows not liking the mixed refresh rates but I think that's been fixed or is just rarer nowadays

[tawdry hornet]

Hi all so is this a concern? I’ve tried screwing evenly as possible a few times. Do I put like a spacer there? To fix this issue or what can I do? The top has a slight bend due to the screw?

It’s a EKWB msi trio non ABP

Now that I realize it when I opened the backplate it did have these small black spacers/washers

[fringe sable]

What is better for 1080 p gaming gtx 1080 or Rtx 2060?

[random walrus]

They're pretty close I think. 1080 has an extra 2gb of vram but 2060 has newer features like dlss

Might also look at an RX 6600 or 6650xt

[lone pond]

what gpus hitting the 100$ used mark nowadays

[vital oriole]

1080

[lone pond]

oh word?

then

is there ways to mitigate some of the perf loss of egpu enclosures?

Do docks help?

[vital oriole]

nope

unless you have tb4/usb 4

there's no way to get around it

[lone pond]

what gpu would I have to buy to retain RX 580-ish like performance while using an enclosure?

[lone pond]

I'm hearing that the laptop I want is tb3 but 4 lane

and that my gpu (and 570 4gb) would perform the same in enclosure as out of it 🤔

[vital oriole]

ah

then thunderbolt 3 wouldn't limit it then

[lone pond]

oh okay thats good!

[novel musk]

would AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor be a bottleneck to RTX 4070 Ti

[keen nacelle]

no, neither would a 7600

unless you're playing at 1080p, in which case why tf are you buying a 4070 ti lol

[novel musk]

i play 1440p, and plan to pair it with Asus ROG STRIX B650-A GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard

[keen nacelle]

whats your budget for the whole build?

and that mobo is very overpriced

the $110 b650 hdv can run a 7950x3d just as well as a $500 mobo

[novel musk]

then ASRock B650M Pro RS WiFi?

[novel musk]

anywhere below 3000

[keen nacelle]

That's also good yeah

Mind if I make you a list?

4070 ti belongs in like $1600 and under

[novel musk]

sure, can u make sure it's white themed?

[keen nacelle]

Also is 3k for the pc, or the entire setup including mouse and kb

Yep!

[novel musk]

pc only

[keen nacelle]

Do you need wifi, do you have a preference for size, do you care about AIO vs air cooler

And do you want just white, or rgb and white

And are you find with an amd gpu?

[novel musk]

is AMD gpu better than rtx?

game compatibility wise

[keen nacelle]

If just gaming and you don't care about Ray tracing, 100%

And rtx is more of a gimmick than anything still

Basically only reason to go nvidia is 4090, or if you use blender

[novel musk]

@keen nacelle
Need wifi, i plan to use a Full size tower
White and RGB preferred, if not then White is OK
Use AIO
AMD GPU then, i dont care about ray trace
I also care about SPDIF sound but that ig i can buy a sound card for it instead of it being on the mobo

[keen nacelle]

Any specific cases in mind, or open to suggestions?

[novel musk]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sWbRsY/phanteks-nv7-atx-full-tower-case-ph-nv723tg_dmw01 would be sick

thank u for ur time sir

[keen nacelle]

Oh also, storage needs?

2tb good, or want more

And nv7, nice case

[novel musk]

oh and if you do AMD GPU, i guess i would want it perform as good as a RTX 4080 if it's cheap? or 4070 Ti performance is good too, idk how AMD vs RTX compares.

[novel musk]

maybe 4 TB m.2 since i plan to use this PC long term

or 2TB m.2 and a separate SSD for 4TB

[keen nacelle]

Sounds good

[novel musk]

perhaps the mobo u chose has two m.2 slots idk

👍

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FHbRFs

6tb ssd in there total, you can take out the z440 if you want to. It's certainly not needed

If you want a better mobo, this is nice https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bCjBD3/gigabyte-b650-aero-g-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-aero-g

The 7900xtx slightly beats out the 4080

If you wanted to go 4080, the cheapest white one is $1280

[novel musk]

thank u so much

[keen nacelle]

Np!

[novel musk]

btw where is this? i cant find it

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kjsV3C/msi-gaming-x-slim-geforce-rtx-4080-16-gb-video-card-rtx-4080-16gb-gaming-x-slim-white

Also, you can paint a gpu shroud yourself it's pretty easy

There's tutorials on YouTube and you'd save a good bit of money

[novel musk]

oh i didnt know u could do that

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PGWzK8/gigabyte-eagle-geforce-rtx-4080-16-gb-video-card-gv-n4080eagle-16gd
Or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RRfnTW/sapphire-pulse-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-24-gb-video-card-11322-02-20g

[novel musk]

why does rtx have 16 gb and rx have 24 gb, does it matter?

[keen nacelle]

Nah not really, no game will use even 16gb atp

Until this year, idt there were more than a handful of games 8gb wasn't enough for

[novel musk]

icic

[novel musk]

@keen nacelle when i added rtx 4080 into the list, it gave me this

[keen nacelle]

So for that, you could either get the 12vphwr or whatever it's called adapter for 40 series, of get a similarly priced black psu with extensions, or just get a more expensive white psu that comes with the needed cable

I believe this one has it
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YTHqqs/phanteks-amp-v2-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ph-p1000g_wt02

Same here https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vNcgXL/thermaltake-toughpower-gf-a3-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0850fnfagu-l

[north escarp]

just traded my msi ventus 3x OC 3070ti that I bought for 800+ tax during shortage plus 200 for an EVGA 3080ti FTW3 Ultra 😄

[keen nacelle]

Nice trade

[north escarp]

thanks, getting a +15-20% gain so definitely worth it

[supple grove]

spending that to get it tho

[merry glacier]

Are there any good deals out there for any rx6800s new?

[keen nacelle]

Nah not really, it's not great value anymore

7800xt $485 for a good bit more perf

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mHpQzy/gigabyte-gaming-oc-radeon-rx-7800-xt-16-gb-video-card-gv-r78xtgaming-oc-16gd

6800 is $400 normally, and I haven't seen it go lower

[merry glacier]

okay thanks, just looking for a good card with plenty of vram to push a 3440x1440p monitor. 6600xt doesn't really cut it.

[keen nacelle]

Wait is that UW?

[keen nacelle]

Or 31-32"

[merry glacier]

yea 35" uw

[keen nacelle]

UW is more demanding than 4k

Which 4k is hard to run on a 7900xt

(For gaming)

7800xt would be the lowest I'd go, but just keep in mind with new and demanding games you'll likely have to turn down settings

[merry glacier]

it's just 1440p

[keen nacelle]

Yeah, but UW

Uw means more pixels

[merry glacier]

I was hoping to be able to use last gen, the new stuff is still too expensive.

[odd siren]

what game(s) are you looking to play?

[merry glacier]

Horizon Zero Dawn, Civilization 6, Elden Ring

[keen nacelle]

Then I'd go for a used 6800xt/3080 or better

[odd siren]

HZD would be pretty demanding on a 1440p uw I* imagine

[merry glacier]

Yea right now I have to use an upscaler and limit the FPS to 60 to be able to play on an rx6600xt but it still looks amazing.

A used 6800xt is about the same as an rx 7800 xt so maybe those will go on sale during black friday.

[odd siren]

I mean if they're the same price, 7800xt is the better deal

you get next gen features and a slightly faster card in a like for like scenario

[merry glacier]

Would a 6 core cpu bottleneck any of those cards?

[keen nacelle]

depends what 6 core cpu

[merry glacier]

3600X

[keen nacelle]

yes

though idk how uw 1440p affects it

at 1440p non uw it's fine with a 3080/6800xt and similar

[merry glacier]

Is the 10g version of the 3080 worth it?

[raven wharf]

6950XTs still exist but are harder and harder to find, those that you can find are around 600

[keen nacelle]

That depends

On price mainly

[teal jetty]

Does anyone know how to tell an RX550 Baffin core from a Lexa core?

I'm looking at this GPU but i have no idea how to tell which core its using

[spare relic]

the one with the gpu

[teal jetty]

?

[livid idol]

When you remove the cooler the core substrate will be either blue or brown. Blue is Lexa.

Gigabyte didn't make any 640SP cards so it doesn't really matter

[livid idol]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/gigabyte-rx-550.b4453

TPU has a great database

[teal jetty]

Ah thank you

Very useful

[livid idol]

Here's the relevant database links too
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-550.c2947
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-550-512sp.c3740
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-550-640sp.c3083

[teal jetty]

🙏🏻 You the best

[haughty vigil]

Scarcity

[vital oriole]

artificial at that

[rancid hill]

God I feel lucky

[raven wharf]

how trustyworthy is refurbished/open box gpus from Newegg

there’s a refurbished 6900xt OC for like 499 I saw

[keen nacelle]

If there's an issue, just return it

[prime jay]

Whats a good riser card and brackets fir the 011d XL rog Pci e gen 4 so I can very mount my 3080ti

[distant nest]

I currently have a 1070ti 8GB VRAM in my PC along with a Ryzen 5 5600x, should i upgrade to a 3060 with 12GB of VRAM or to a 3070 with the 8GB but faster speeds?

[keen nacelle]

The 3070 is about 40% better than a 3060 12gb

If not more

6700xt would be a better choice than either imo

[distant nest]

i see thank you, i just havent done a lot of research on the AMD GPUs so I don't know how much better they are

[odd siren]

6700xt is a really good pick

in that price range

[dense cliff]

If I need to flash the BIOS on my GPU do I need a special tool to do it or is it most likely a return to manufacturer thing?

[livid idol]

You can do it yourself

[distant nest]

alright what if my budget was around $550 for the gpu? that would probably help me find the better one in that budget

[livid idol]

Grab the bios for your card and the appropriate tool
https://www.techpowerup.com/download/bios-flashing/
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/

[dense cliff]

gotcha, will do, thanks for the help

[livid idol]

You can do a 7800 XT for $500

[odd siren]

[dense cliff]

dang i was looking at my order history on newegg to see which card I had for the BIOS revision, can't believe I paid 802 dollars for a 3070 xD

there are no BIOSes available for my card

[livid idol]

What's the exact model

There's probably unverified uploads

[dense cliff]

EVGA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti XC3 ULTRA GAMING Video Card, 08G-P5-3785-KL, 8GB GDDR6X, iCX3 Cooling, ARGB LED, Metal Backplate

[livid idol]

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/244390/244390

[dense cliff]

thanks 😄

[novel musk]

can i use extended sleeved psu cable to plug into RTX 4080? Will that cause melting?

[livid idol]

4080s rarely melt, they don't use enough power to get hot enough

Just make sure it's inserted fully

[fading glacier]

rarely? didnt see any report from 4080 connectors melting at all

[odd siren]

they have

it's rare but not impossible

e.g
https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/148xov4/rtx_4080_melted/

[fading glacier]

well tbf, yeah its possible, a not fully inserted connector can make a false contact and then.... well hundreds of amps can melt the plastic cap xD

in the case of this post could be the cablemod adapter, but from power alone hardly think so, 4080 is relatively a low power card compared to the power hungry 4090

[odd siren]

to quote I think northwest repair? 20-25*** of melted 40 series cards drop in weekly

maybe monthly

[odd siren]

it's just less likely, the bridging condition is still easily achieveable

[fading glacier]

northwest is quite weird to me.... why people sent him cards instead of taking the warranty way?

[odd siren]

cos it's educational idk

that's a million dollar question lol

[fading glacier]

i mean, if mine breaks i will definetely use the warranty, instead of sending it to third party reapir shop

that will definetely void the warranty

understandable on 20 series and below, where warranty is already gone, but even some 30 series are still under the 3 year period

but fair enuf, thats the million dollar question

[odd siren]

northridge fix I think it actually was now

"20-25 4090's a week"

ok my memory was off the mark there lol

[livid idol]

Because now that it's revealed as "user error" a lot of warranties are being denied

[fading glacier]

that makes a lot of sense

[solid glacier]

Uhh what does this mean

[fading glacier]

had you tried google that message to see if others had the same issue and how they solved it?

works for me almost everytime on every problem

[solid glacier]

Yea I can’t find it

It only popped up once

[safe coral]

hey guys , i need an answer before best buy sells out.... graphic cards - which is better my xfx 580 8gb or Radeon RX 6500 XT GAMING OC 4GB 64-bit GDDR6 --- i do graphic design (illustrator - photoshop primarily , some light short clip video editing at times.... im rocking the aorus x570 wifi elite 128gb of patriot viper ram

[vital oriole]

580

[safe coral]

thank you miss ... i may have a few comparisons, i want to upgrade from this ,, im searching the BB site now to see whats in my budget

[tall dirge]

Is 60C at idle normal for GPU? I have a EVGA 3080ti. When it gets to 60C, the fans would come on at about 30-33% to bring it down to around 58-59C. Rinse and repeat.

[vital oriole]

don't get these gpus new tho

[vital oriole]

that's pretty normal, adjust fan curve if you hate the ramping

[safe coral]

was that message for me ? could i find a better deal on used gpus? im not to found of buying certain things used , because of the wear and tear someone could have put on it

[vital oriole]

yes

what's your budget?

[tall dirge]

Ok cool. I have no problem with them ramping in idle since I can't hear it. Just wanted to make sure this temp is normal so it can have a long life.

[vital oriole]

alright, then it's all good

[safe coral]

maybe 200 - i know its not much at all. im hoping for a miracle rn

[wicked hound]

Electronics typically last quite a long time unless they are designed poorly or a lemon. For GPUs, prolly only thing to worry about lifespan wise would be the fans. Tho used RX580s are $50 USD iirc.

[vital oriole]

that's enough for an rx 6600

they're like $200 atm

[wicked hound]

6650XT is $230 and 6600 is $200
6600: https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16814131791
6650XT: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09VYHB8XG

[vital oriole]

there's refurb 6600xt with 1yr warranty

for $195

it's on ebay

[safe coral]

👌 i appreciate the info BIG TIME...

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/xfx-speedster-swft210-amd-radeon-rx-6600-core-8gb-gddr6-pci-express-4-0-gaming-graphics-card-black/6495949.p?skuId=6495949

im going to send a few links... sorry to be a hassle ... i believe im going to raise the budget to $250 topss

im considering openbox as well - i mean how much damage could of been done to it IF any ? 😅

[wicked hound]

There is 6600, 6600XT, and 6650XT. 6600 is usually not that great value compared to 6600XT/6650XT. The refurb 6600XT that Foxy mentioned is currently best value from a quick look.

[safe coral]

okay , thank you guys for making sense of this for me ... i like to believe im computer literate but not down to the specs and fine details so bare with me 😅 ... i had a 3060 , loved it but i accidently broke it ... was given the 580 but want to get better so i can move quicker when i design

[safe coral]

hey foxy any link to that specific one you speak of

[vital oriole]

gimme a sec

https://www.ebay.com/itm/155676332809

[safe coral]

look guys

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/gigabyte-radeon-rx-7600-gaming-oc-8gb-gddr6-pci-express-4-0-graphics-card-black/6545813.p?skuId=6545813

209

open box

being a newer model ? a few bucks more, would it be better for my graphic design stuff ?

[vital oriole]

ehh

not that worth it

[safe coral]

good day everyone 💓 have a blessed morning

[elder delta]

will radeon gpu work with intel cpu and vice-versa?

[odd siren]

yes

literally typing to you from that arrangement

[elder delta]

and radeon vs nvedia vs intel, which is better?

and more budget friendly?

[odd siren]

Radeon of the three

[vital oriole]

there's no set rule

[odd siren]

I mean intel

but intel is a bit of a miss for gpus

[vital oriole]

but radeon atm unless you wanna torture yourself with intel drivers

[safe coral]

hey guys , ive narrowed down my selection of GPU for my graphic design pc . which do you guys think i should go with

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256185261267?hash=item3ba5d4dcd3%3Ag%3ACikAAOSwYwpk3Rzs&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA0Exx%2F4aWn42uvpeSA78f5D3vTLSTmVCIIvTqkjzFFXfMvDeDucphIMURILis5sOAhMYbUbm8iZFIBcMyjanwrAFhsJuij9deL%2BWetUXMcPz9%2Ffhx5vG5k9F%2B%2B2uAUb%2FZpHsIceIpcbyiNKSlnMMCgzxGVY3H3nWTI71S6GOzvK8rbpOk%2FraLwnVDX7SttrmZ6xS4qwA9od2C06HozgonvUfL%2Bf%2FTXb53e40Bin5cd077VF%2BFW3BxI8%2Fj0YRde%2Ba9vd7ZAMl4uedDMxT7302xx9M%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR4abq8P7Yg&LH_BIN=1 hoping to offer him 190- $200 flat

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-128-bit-FreeSync-DirectX-Graphics/dp/B09YHXT12P/ref=sr_1_13?crid=1W5LLYOUCWM9O&keywords=6800+xt&m=A2L77EE7U53NWQ&qid=1700213429&s=warehouse-deals&sprefix=6800+xt%2Cwarehouse-deals%2C89&sr=8-13 191 USED

https://www.ebay.com/itm/155676332809?epid=13049608141&hash=item243f085309%3Ag%3AHxYAAOSwXTlkuHtM&LH_BIN=1 i may even consider trying to ask for a 10-20 price cut , i mean why not , i need to save as much i can ...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/395001760367?epid=10061617928&hash=item5bf7f08a6f:g:0OwAAOSwfxFlVVyg&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4EIxECPt6fcSsBG7SzANMbaH8f0SyS8OcMUNo2g3dN70Oc8r%2F8E235KkFW4IQZ5PCXhD9gkWw6RApjwaZFUnXRXgmPBRU7uGpEjR8I39OouK8hi%2BdfWn1iybO36gehyD8gGvSQk7G6XxAYpKF6kM4GL6ymSNPnPe4Jmt6yXR1S7lm%2FwyLpa0w9JG9%2BNjXk1OCaXHij5eL4jJOtB8jGESQ6tMxPW%2FV%2FVNdA7hdrbVpTpBbxpYT%2F9736AY1SPBpJRUk0oRf7fuU8AVy8ADb2YQDuI56UB%2FlxchxWo8b4uyQxRJ|tkp%3ABk9SR7CW3cr7Yg&autorefresh=true ive got a bid in for i believe 175

[keen nacelle]

6700xt would be the best option of them

unless you're doing something that requires cuda

[safe coral]

wouldnt cuda be best over being im working with illustrator and photoshop ? i do tend to do short 30 second logo animations as well. i dont know much about hardware :/

[keen nacelle]

what softwares are you using

[safe coral]

mostly illustrator , and then photoshop .... im just getting back into videos so im not sure if im going to use after effects or premiere @westcoastmylars on instagram . im a logo designer

[keen nacelle]

believe cuda would be useful

so 4060, 3060 12gb used prob

[wicked hound]

Davinci Resolve better them Premiere tbh. Unless you need the Adobe integration, Premiere has fallen behind.

Afaik Adobe has no preference between CUDA and OpenGL/OpenCL. The main preference is usually QSV (Quick Sync Video), video hardware acceleration on Intel iGPUs/dGPUs.

[safe coral]

im going to look into Resolve , thank you for that .... what would be your recommended GPU , im running 128gb ram - on the x570 aorus elite wifi - with a ryzen 9 5900x

[wicked hound]

So actually started looking into stuff and realized Intel Arc GPUs are prolly your best bet for performance. I assume you're basically just doing Illustrator, Photoshop, and Premiere+AE/Resolve. No focus on gaming, rendering 3D animations, etc?
A750 is $200

Illustrator and Photoshop arent affected by GPU performance much, just needs a supported GPU.

[safe coral]

IF i do game it would be COD warfare - every couple months lol ... it would be nice to have a graphics card that can do it all but yes my main focus is being able to move swiftly while im working on my art .... mind if i PM you , i have a few questions

[solid glacier]

Cant figure this out

[solid glacier]

anyone using 23.9.3 and having problems or using 23.11.1 is it stable weird iv been using 23.9.3 and now my games are back to feeling like crap even with riva on

[solid glacier]

Randomly having those stable issues again makes zero since might be this driver

Thinking about just building a whole new pc tbh and then sell this one,

[solid glacier]

anyone know a good list under 2k/

[keen nacelle]

Country, do you need wifi, do you care about looks, if so what aesthetic would you like, what do you use it for, any preference for amd/intel/nvidia

@solid glacier

Also if gaming what resolution

Throwing something together in case I'm asleep when you respond, this would be a good start https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DZm64M

And this would be smthn a bit nicer https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JQQX28

[solid glacier]

i dont care about aesthetics im USD and i want it for just gaming im uising a 240 hz monitor aswell 1440p

[onyx orbit]

I think I asked this a couple times before, so sorry if I keep repeating myself, but what GPU(s) would pair ideally, or close to ideally, with a 5700x?

[solid glacier]

rn my build is pretty nuts but i cant figure out the issue with it so im just buying a new one lol iv had mine listed for awhile and it doesnt sell so

[onyx orbit]

please if anyone answers don't say gtx 1030 or 7900xtx or something like that

[keen nacelle]

Anything from 6650xt to 6950xt/4070 ti or anything similar

[onyx orbit]

something above like a 6800 non-xt wouldn't be too powerful for it?

[keen nacelle]

Either of the lists above then

[keen nacelle]

Nope

At 1440p a 6950xt isn't a bad pairing with a 5600

[onyx orbit]

neat

thanks

[keen nacelle]

If you're buying new 7800xt or 4070 would prob be best bet imo

[solid glacier]

Bet

[raven wharf]

will a 6700xt handle 1440p

not looking to run everything on like max settings expecting like 150 fps

[livid idol]

Depends on the game, but a lot of titles sure

More GPU heavy stuff like cyberpunk and starfield will be rough

[wicked hound]

PMing is generally not ideal for help unless it contains sensitive info, which is also not ideal to share to really anyone but Wegg staff (techies arent staff). I may be a techie but I dont know everything and do make mistakes. Having others available to help is ideal.
As for Intel Arc GPUs, it's a bit of a mixed bag. For video productivity performance it has the best value however it has not the greatest value when it comes to gaming, 3D animation rendering, and compatibility. Compatibility being the most concerning, while it is supported by most software it still has the most bugs out of AMD/Nvidia. For example, the A750 was basically a paper weight for a recent Illustrator version (should be fixed now, worked in previous versions and such, also other Intel Arc GPUs worked in the broken version). It isnt super common to have these kinds of issues now-a-days compared to launch, but still worth noting. If you can manage with updating software as little as possible (ex: only upgrade for major versions or for bugfixes on issues you're having, which would prolly be 2 - 3 program updates per year) then you'll likely not run into issues.

[safe coral]

Yea I get it, I didn’t want to flood this timeline with a bunch of questions.

Another question though . Y’all think 130 is too much for a Msi 6600 ?

[keen nacelle]

nah

low price, unless used. Idk what used pricing is but even for used that sounds low

[solid glacier]

Bruh my pc is back to having those issues before idk if it’s the gpu update I did recently bc it’s been fine since but I’m just getting a whole new build

[safe coral]

It’s def used . Sellers says it’s damn near new . Looks super clean . I was working with a rx 580 8Gb , I think I’m going to grab this 6600 to hold me over for now …

[merry glacier]

You guys think we are going to see any lower prices on the 6800xt than $430?

[keen nacelle]

Not for new

[merry glacier]

That one is refurbished though

[keen nacelle]

Eh

[merry glacier]

the MSI model

And as far as I can tell the only warranty it has is a 90 day warranty from Newegg

[keen nacelle]

Atp imo I'd go used for around $350

[merry glacier]

It would just be nice to have some kinda warranty though

I would get a 6800 but everyone is saying that's not enough for 3440x1440

[keen nacelle]

Yeah uw 1440p more demanding than 4k

I'd say wait for black Friday, I'd imagine there will be some discounts on 6800xt 7800xt and 4070, maybe not as low as 430 but close enough to be worth it

[merry glacier]

But how is it more demanding than 4K? Not as many pixels, right?

[keen nacelle]

With ultrawide it does have more pixels

[keen nacelle]

Hey with tiktok shop you can get a new 5600 for $142

[safe coral]

I think I would rather get the 6600 , he local , it’s cheap enough . I’m just going to run it for a month or two before I grab something better

I can get the 6600xt for 180 with one year warranty as well..

[keen nacelle]

6600xt is a decent bit better

But just for a month or two, meh

Up to you

[wicked hound]

To what extend are you getting something better - Like are you going from nothing to 6600 to 6600XT in two months? If it's a minor upgrade like that you'd be better off getting the GPU you're actually going to keep.
Also remember if you're willing to either not update your programs as often, or have to deal with the occasional version revert of a program, Intel Arc A750 is the best value for your work at the ~$200 price point. (edit: actually idk about this)

[wicked hound]

Hm, maybe I stand corrected. Realizing now that the info I was looking at kinda seems all over the place, and at best I cant compare test results I was trying to compare to, and at worst the test results arent actually conclusive.
So I guess prolly go 6600xt unless you want AV1 encoding for video rendering, as Intel Arc A750 would be cheapest okay value GPU to do that.

[safe coral]

i want the 6700xt 12gb or the rx 7700xt really ... just waiting to catch a solid price.... i can sacrifice the 130 for the 6600 for now , it will allow me complete a few more gigs in the short month or two thatll ill be using it .... then ill just throw that 6600 in my secondary pc and buy the 7700xt (hopefully) for my main

[keen nacelle]

4070 was down to $500 on tiktok shop, which would be a decent bit better for what you're doing

On black Friday I wouldnt be surprised if 4070/7800xt/6800xt go down in price, if you'd be able to buy by then

Though that's only a week away

[safe coral]

thank you for the info brother

[quasi flicker]

Would I be fine using a 650W PSU with a 6800 XT and a 7700X?

[keen nacelle]

What model

@quasi flicker

[quasi flicker]

Not really sure, I'm looking through Newegg deals

[keen nacelle]

Can you buy off tiktok shop?

[coral yew]

Is the 6800 non XT much better than a 6700xt?

[keen nacelle]

Yes

6700xt between 3060 ti and 3070, 6800xt between 3080 10gb and 12gb

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dbCZxr/msi-mag-a750gl-pcie5-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mag-a750gl-pcie5

[coral yew]

Thanks I saw a good deal for a 6800 on Amazon that's $370 and was considering getting that maybe but I could also just go to microcenter and get a 6700xt for $300

[keen nacelle]

6800 is worse than a 3080 10gb

[coral yew]

Which every one of those I see is $500-$600 new

[ivory herald]

That's what happens to last gen. Best deal at $400ish is used stuff.

[keen nacelle]

Yes, just giving you an idea of perf

[coral yew]

Alright

I'm trying to find a gpu that's between $300-$400

[keen nacelle]

For an upgrade from 2080s?

6700xt is like 5% better

So pls no

Atp the only real upgrade option is used high 6000 series or 30 series

3080/6800xt+

[coral yew]

How'd a 7700xt do compared to the 2080? Was also kinda considering spending a bit more

[keen nacelle]

7700xt worse than 6800xt

Lowest I'd go is 7800xt, 4070 is $500 on tiktok shop too

[coral yew]

I might get a 7800xt

Thanks

[coral yew]

Originally wanted to do something cheaper because it was going to be a birthday present for me and at first it was going to be I'd pay for half and my dad would pay for half and then some other family members pitched in so I'd basically not be paying anything so after that wasn't really sure what I'd decide on

[quasi flicker]

Don't know what that is and if it's actually related to TikTok then no

[keen nacelle]

then the one i linked you would be a good choice

[quasi flicker]

I already have a 650W PSU, that's why I asked with a 650

Oh, you meant PSU model

🤦‍♂️

[keen nacelle]

yeah lol

dw about it

what model psu is it?

[quasi flicker]

RM650x

[keen nacelle]

yeah youre good

i ran a 6800xt on that exact psu

with overclocking

[quasi flicker]

2018?

[keen nacelle]

yep

[quasi flicker]

Not sure if they reuse the model names or not

Alright

[quasi flicker]

What CPU?

[keen nacelle]

3600, 7700x won't really use much more power gaming though

[quasi flicker]

Okay

[keen nacelle]

esp if you undervolt it, it'll actually perform better while using less watts

[quasi flicker]

I have a 7700X and it's undervolted a bit

[keen nacelle]

ah yep

[quasi flicker]

Or, in Eco mode

[keen nacelle]

uv is great on the 7000 series x cpus

they get power hungry otherwise

[quasi flicker]

And also turn into another space heater

[keen nacelle]

yeah lol

[quasi flicker]

I already have a GPU for that, thanks though

Any sag brackets you recommend?

My 2070 is kind of sagging as it is, I doubt a newer and probably fatter GPU will be better

[keen nacelle]

eh whatever you find that you like, could even diy one out of some legos or whatever else fits properly

I don't have one and my 3060 ti isn't sagging at all, but obviously 6800xt is a bigger gpu

[quasi flicker]

I have a weird one for it right now, kind of just sits under it

And holds it in place

Not the best when the plastic around the cooler is not at all flat

Which 6800 did you have?

[keen nacelle]

I had a ref 6800xt, but i ended up selling it a couple weeks later

I just didn't need the upgrade over the 3060 ti I already had

[quasi flicker]

Oh

My 2070 just hasn't aged well thanks to Gigabyte

I'm sure not always having a sag bracket didn't help either, but Gigabyte screwed up with the 20 series

[livid idol]

And the 30 series

Cracked PCIe slots anyone

[quasi flicker]

Great

[coral yew]

Also so would the 7800xt run well with a i5-12600k on a 650W psu? Saw they recommend a 700W psu

I know they do give a lot of headroom

[keen nacelle]

Depends on model of psu

[coral yew]

It's a corsair 650M I think? Let me check

[keen nacelle]

Like just above same thing question but with 7700x

Wait holup if yall have the same psu

Rmx?

[keen nacelle]

Rm650x?

[coral yew]

Yeah

[keen nacelle]

Because if so you two both are going to 7800xt both came here to ask about it and have the same psu

Yeah thats good

[coral yew]

Lol alright

[keen nacelle]

I oced a 6800xt on it, it's among the best of the best in terms of psu models

[keen nacelle]

@quasi flicker thought you'd get a kick out of this too

[coral yew]

I already got the card too and it's an OC from gigabyte but I won't be able to use it for 10 days as it's a gift

[keen nacelle]

Ah nice

Especially in certain games like rust and mw2 you'll see a pretty nice improvement

[coral yew]

Yeah hopefully mwii will stop just randomly crashing too in zombies idk if it was a gpu related issue but it's annoying af and only happens on my desktop my laptop is fine and I refuse to contact support because they just have the live text support...

Wait no mwiii

I'm dumb lol

[keen nacelle]

You try verifying install files?

[coral yew]

Yep

[keen nacelle]

Weird

[coral yew]

It seems to act like a connection issue but I'm also on ethernet on the desktop

[keen nacelle]

Could be the cable itself

[coral yew]

Maybe but it's also just that gamemode specifically...

[keen nacelle]

Weird

[coral yew]

Yeah

[keen nacelle]

Prolly just blizzard blizzarding

[coral yew]

I actually play it through steam

So yeah no ideq

Idea*

I've looked up the issue done anything recommended for it and no fix

Well phones about to die and I don't have a charger apparently

[keen nacelle]

F

Cya, gl with warzone and congrats on the new gpu

[quasi flicker]

6800 XT, not 7800 XT

7800 XT has a 263W TDP instead of the 300 that the 6800 XT has

Wait I did not read correctly at all

ignore me

[keen nacelle]

Wait mb so 6800xt and 7800xt not both 7800xt mb

But close enough

Still a funny coincidence

[quasi flicker]

Yeah

[coral yew]

Yeah

[coral yew]

Thanks!

[cursive echo]

Current 4090 in newegg that are sold by them have the new 12v 2x6 cable ?

[vital oriole]

not sure tbh

it's a silent revision

[cursive echo]

they dont seem to have change anything on the specs on newegg website . im builing a 6k pc and need the new connector to avoid issues

[vital oriole]

it's impossible to tell

since stuff like this isn't mentioned in spec sheets

[cursive echo]

For the psu does it matter if is a atx 3.0 vs atx3.1 the revisited version ?

[vital oriole]

not really no

the psu end is fine

gpu end there's a tiny risk

the pre revised connectors that is

[cursive echo]

It seem no 3.1 released yet for the psu i only find 3.0 , but if it is safe then i will take that

[solid glacier]

Are these 2 different things? the amd free sync and then the premium like should i have them both on do they interfer with one another? and should i have them on when i have rivatunre synce limiter on

[solid glacier]

this

[livid idol]

Turn on whichever your monitor supports.
It's adaptive refresh, rtss has nothing to do with it.

[livid idol]

Then go ahead and enable it

[solid glacier]

So on or amd optimized

[livid idol]

I'm not sure what the difference is

Try both and see which works better?

[solid glacier]

Well tbh i dont notice a difference when there on or off Im just confused why theres AMD freeSync then theres Amd FreeSync Premium

[livid idol]

Premium would have better communication with the chip in the monitor

[solid glacier]

alright so should i turn amd freesync teh one that says amd optimized off then? and keep premioum on

i fixed the fps alg i think

lag

I’m having that fps issue I had awhile back and I thought riva fixed it and it suddenly stopped working 3 days ago idk if it’s the driver but idk can’t figure it out it’s back to being bad even with riva

[vivid arch]

Can anyone tell me why the 5500xt has flickering issues with one of my monitors? Drivers are up to date and I reinstalled my drivers, same issue is still happening

Is it just an amd thinv

Thing*

It's intermittent

[vital oriole]

Check your display cable

Try running ddu

?ddu

[neat venture]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[odd siren]

no

just make triple sure you plug it in properly

[elder delta]

can i use igpu, amd-dgpu and nvidia-dgpu together in one pc

if not, how do i link them?

[vital oriole]

you can use multiple gpus, but not within one monitor/output

[quasi flicker]

Any recommendations on 4070s?

I'm looking at the ones that are cheaper on Newegg right now

[odd siren]

yes

a used 3080

[quasi flicker]

I haven't really been able to find anything used that was a decent price

[odd siren]

any like, 420 or less imo if possible

4070 sits in a weird spot where, even in situations where nvidia holds an advantage, the bit bus kills it from leveraging that advantage

so if you're gaming, 6800xt/7800xt is better

or if you're using production/blender/workstation, 3080 is much better

the only time you could justify a 4070 is specifically only RT or AV1 encoding

otherwise it's just still slower or worse value than other options

even at the current* 520$

[quasi flicker]

Alright

3080 is power hungry too

[odd siren]

yes but 7800xt isn't

[quasi flicker]

Probably couldn't run that on a 650W PSU

[odd siren]

and for the difference in price you could get a better psu and that adds redundancy/upgrade options over a 4070 later

[quasi flicker]

Oh, the 6800 XT is 300W too

[odd siren]

like really unless it's a 700$ 4070ti, sub $1000 4080 or a $1600 4090 most of 40 series hasn't made sense price wise compared to the entire market

yeah, the 7800xt knocks about 50w off the 6800xt

[quasi flicker]

And manages to perform worse apparently?

[odd siren]

about the same

slightly faster

[quasi flicker]

What I don't want to lose is DLSS, but I'm not sure that does a ton

[odd siren]

7800xt barely edges it's older brother out by <5%

then I mean the 3080 exists

[quasi flicker]

Also some other CUDA functionality but I haven't been using that much at all recently

[odd siren]

and you could buy a new 750w psu to run a 3080 if you were worried, using the price difference to a 4070

still come out cheaper overall

I'd see a 2x8 pin 3080 running with a 7700x in eco mode on a 650w

that should be very achieveable, on a good 650w

[quasi flicker]

Oh, "I'd see"

I thought you said I'd like to see

[odd siren]

lol

[quasi flicker]

RM650x

[odd siren]

that would work

[keen nacelle]

On the rmx you could

[odd siren]

RMx is like, second from the best

[quasi flicker]

So 3080 under-volted too or not?

[keen nacelle]

Rmx 650 I'd trust with anything but a 3090 ti

Including 3090 and 4090

[quasi flicker]

Dang

[keen nacelle]

Nah, with a 7700x on eco mode you're fine

[odd siren]

2x8 pin 3080 would be fine at normal power

just run your 7700x in eco mode

it sets your cpu to a 65w limit

[quasi flicker]

Always do anyway because it gets hot(ter) otherwise

[odd siren]

well that works out easily then

find a used 3080

[quasi flicker]

12GB still fine?