graphics-cards

[odd siren]

Definitely cpu should be next on the list

[junior locust]

7600 would unironically be really good for you man

[odd siren]

If not maybe a new psu or case if necessary

[tall lichen]

Already upgraded those

I don't see the 7600 cpu

[junior locust]

Ryzen 5 7600

[tall lichen]

I guess it must be recent. I don't see it in PC partpicker

Wait I might have a filter wrong nevermind

[junior locust]

Lmfao

You filtered for Intel didn't you?

[tall lichen]

Nah it was for a different build

[junior locust]

But yes I can highly recommend it

Really good efficiency, and performs good regardless

Cheapest B650 mobo you can get (that's not an Asus Prime)
And 32gb of 6000Mhz memory

[odd siren]

7600 would be decent

5600

12400f

[junior locust]

And you're set for many years to come

[odd siren]

12600k

13600k

Those are the go to choices rn

[junior locust]

@odd siren I'm just preaching 7000 series Ryzen because it's got great perf, reasonable-ish prices and likely a long upgrade path

[odd siren]

I see that

[tall lichen]

I would hope so too

If they went the same route as AM4

[odd siren]

Just making sure all the usual suspects are listed lol

[tall lichen]

What about the 7600x?

[junior locust]

7600 basically makes it obsolete

And I day that despite having a 7600X

7600 gives you like
95% of the performance from the 7600X
While consuming 40% less power, having a stock cooler AND usually costing less (at least a little bit)

Don't get me wrong the 7600X is still excellent choice
It's just that the 7600 is cheaper and still delivers almost the same

[tall lichen]

Stupid question is a micro atx motherboard fine for an atx tower?

[hot bough]

It will fit, just won't fill as much space and usually doesn't have as many features due to the limiting size.

[junior locust]

General rule of thumb here
Buy the motherboard size that's your case format

[livid idol]

"Features" usually include M.2 slots and fan headers

[tall lichen]

I also need to take nvm slots into account

[junior locust]

Like I think micro ATX mobo in ATX case

Goofy AF

[hot bough]

My mobo looks tiny inside my case lmao.

I have a M-ATX inside the Torrent.

[odd siren]

My 7950x3d build rn

[junior locust]

Truly an acquired taste

[junior locust]

You no longer have the right to complain about people's builds :3

[hot bough]

Was the cheapest board at the time to test if the cpu I got for free works due to it having some bent pin.

[hot bough]

Personally I'd of gone E-ATX granted if budget wasn't an issue.

[odd siren]

You can't see the bottom of the motherboard anyway it's swallowed by a giant radiator

[tall lichen]

Is there a term for a motherboard that has the IO shield preinstalled?

[junior locust]

Respectable

[junior locust]

Idts

But why would you want to have the IO shield preinstalled?

It's like one of the most satisfying part of building a PC to me

[hot bough]

IO shields are really easy to install.

It's like a lego.

[junior locust]

So satisfying to me when it just click in

[tall lichen]

Hmm

[stray sentinel]

wish I could send an example pic but this is a really nice looking and cheap sag bracket

https://www.amazon.com/upHere-Addressable-Graphics-Adjustable-GH03ARGB/dp/B09FDVCYJ4/ref=sr_1_18?crid=2GV91VK5DFYXA&keywords=rgb%2Bgpu%2Bsag%2Bbracket&qid=1695504479&sprefix=rgb%2Bgpu%2Bsag%2B%2Caps%2C87&sr=8-18&th=1

only thing is it can smudge easily

[livid idol]

How often would you be touching it though

[stray sentinel]

just when you're setting it up, but its pretty annoying to clean it while it's being used

and if your house is incredibly dusty like mine youll probably have some dust clinging to it after a while

but yeah it just uses any 3 pin, male or female, and you control it with your mobo software, it's pretty nice looking imo

finally, i can upload it lol

[wind sable]

Quality goes hard

[stray sentinel]

Nah ik it's not a main brand, but the less moving parts/complexity the cheaper you can buy

[velvet grail]

Vega 56 (nitro) a good deal for €90?

[vital oriole]

yes

[velvet grail]

Good
+€10 taxes :/
At least it rounds up to 100

[wind sable]

I meant the picture quality is so good lmao

[gusty cave]

When it comes to buying a 4080 or 7900xtx is it personal preference if you’re not considering the price? What the difference performance wise

[oak rivet]

if same price or within 100$ premium the 4080 is a no brainer

[gusty cave]

I’ve ordered a 4080 but now im seeing loads of people say 7900xtx>

😭

Is the difference in VRAM something that should be considered?

[oak rivet]

no at this range no

[vital oriole]

xtx beats 4080 in non rt

and is quite a bit cheaper

there's no 1k 4080s atm

[gusty cave]

Hmm idk what to do lol

Idk which one to go for

[vital oriole]

any xtx will do

[gusty cave]

I have been leaning towards the 4080 like o said I’ve ordered one

But now I’m having doubts

[vital oriole]

imo cancel order and get 7900xtx

for how much does the 4080 cost?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wHVmP6/powercolor-hellhound-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-24-gb-video-card-rx7900xtx-24g-loc

this is only 939

[gusty cave]

I got my 4080 for 1.2

[vital oriole]

oof

that's not worth the price bump

[gusty cave]

I might cancel my 4080 hmm

[vital oriole]

cheapest 4080 is around 1080 bucks

if you really have bias for nvidia then i guess get the cheapest one

[gusty cave]

In EU 7900xtx are around 950

[vital oriole]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RnZ9TW/pny-xlr8-gaming-verto-epic-x-rgb-geforce-rtx-4080-16-gb-video-card-vcg408016tfxxpb1

here's this for the 4080 i'd direct you to instead

1.2k is pretty expensive even if it's msrp

[gusty cave]

I might just got for the 7900xtx

[odd siren]

Yeah 4080 is a really difficult sell at 1.2

Really really difficult

950 for an XTX is quite decent

[gusty cave]

Do we expect Nvidia to drop prices anytime soon lol

[odd siren]

Nope

Nvidia has been proven to be starving supply to the market actually

[vital oriole]

cheapest 4080 is also at least 200 markup lmao

1099 bucks

[odd siren]

So it's known that they're doing the opposite to keep prices high wherever possible

[vital oriole]

ya

it's interesting that 4070 dropped $50 in response to 7800xt

[odd siren]

The 4060ti 16gb finally got a price cut after a couple months

[vital oriole]

but still, not even enough for a recc

[odd siren]

Oh wait was it 4070?

[vital oriole]

yes

[gusty cave]

What to do what to do lol

[odd siren]

It was one of the cards

[vital oriole]

it was 4070

[odd siren]

Go xtx

It's so much better imo

[vital oriole]

a few 4070s dropped market price

not a sale

but permanent adjustment

[gusty cave]

If I do get a 4080/XTX when would I need to upgrade again

2 years?

[vital oriole]

for quite a while lol

don't bother with rt and you'll be covered for more than 2 years

[odd siren]

Not for a long time

[vital oriole]

^

[odd siren]

Market won't evolve fast enough for you to need to change in 2 years

There's always the rate of adoption in play

[gusty cave]

Just cancelled my 4080 for now lol

[raven wharf]

I love large performance gains in new generations over previous

[vital oriole]

but 2 years isn't large enough

to warrant upgrading from one highest end gpu to another

like 3090/3090ti tier gpus are still very usable

despite how stupid fast 4090 is

no one needs upgrades every 2 years unless they benefit from the pc

or are so into gaming they gotta max it all out

but the latter use case is a want, not a need

[odd siren]

3090/Ti is still near 4070Ti/7900XT level

[vital oriole]

exactly

[upbeat sable]

So I chose a new case for my PC build that can house a GPU up to 360 mm, but the GPU itself is 330 mm. Is this fine, or should I find a case that gives the GPU a little more room

[keen nacelle]

That is fine, but what case?

[upbeat sable]

Also while you're here, that gpu you recommended. On its Newegg page, it said that the recommended wattage was 900W. Is that gonna matter?

[keen nacelle]

I dont remember, what gpu was that?
But overall, it'll be fine. 4090 is fine on a good 750w, same with 7900xtx.

And yeah case is fine, there's some other options if you want rgb

Or focus 2 has non rgb options, if you like the look of that more than the 4000d airflow

[upbeat sable]

Rx 6950 xt

[keen nacelle]

That's fine on a good quality 650w depending on cpu

850w udgm or d.f2 would be my choice rn, $80 and $90 respectively

[upbeat sable]

OK I found what I wanna use for my case. Would this be good for the build you recommended to me?

[keen nacelle]

Pls no

H510 elite is objectively the worst case

It's worse than even the h510

H5 flow is the "fixed" version of the h510 line but it's still worse than a lot of similarly priced cases

@upbeat sable

If you'd like I can link you some cases that are aesthetically pleasing and still good cases

[upbeat sable]

Please if you can. I also don't want it to be too expensive or ridiculously huge

[keen nacelle]

Kk, I'll link some, just a few

Do you prefer rgb or non rgb?

[upbeat sable]

Just big enough to hold an ATX motherboard and a HDD or 2

Rgb

[keen nacelle]

And black, white, or black and white

[upbeat sable]

Preferably white

[keen nacelle]

Also since you're using an hdd, do you have an ssd for boot?

[upbeat sable]

Yes

[keen nacelle]

Ok just wanted to make sure

[upbeat sable]

I'm gonna use that 2 TB SSd

[keen nacelle]

Kk, few min on cases

M450 is $28 after rebate for 1tb ssd if you'd like a cheaper option

[upbeat sable]

I feel like there's a reason why it's only 28. Plus I wanna have 2 TB minimum

[keen nacelle]

Could do this with a 3 pack of c12c rgb white fans for $13, as the first option. I'd say it'd be lower on the priority list of cases https://pcpartpicker.com/product/92pzK8/nzxt-h5-flow-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-h51fw-01

Decent airflow, just overpriced

This is one of my all time favorite cases https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3nD7YJ/fractal-design-pop-air-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-por1a-01

Same here https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vs2WGX/lian-li-lancool-ii-mesh-c-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-lancool-ii-mesh-c-rgb-s

There are some cheaper options, but you lose out on quality

G360a and p400a are both very good too, just don't want to link spam too much

Both are $90

@upbeat sable

[raven wharf]

could you reccomend some black ones

with the "fishtank" look

aka glass on front and side

that actually allow airflow

[keen nacelle]

O11d y60 and h7 are the only ones I know of

[raven wharf]

h7?

[keen nacelle]

There's a corsair case too but I forget the name

[raven wharf]

i know of the 011 and y60

[keen nacelle]

H7 is nzxt, I think there's a version of it with a glass front

And h9

There's the 4000x but I don't think that's the look you're going for

[raven wharf]

lian li mini is what i wanted but the psu thing is weird

[livid idol]

The air mini uses a regular power supply but then it's got the mesh front

[raven wharf]

id be sold on it if it wasnt for the mesh

ik its for better airflow

but idk why it bugs me

[young crystal]

hyte y40 or y60 are both neat, def not a budget option though, y40 is around $150 usd and the y60 is around $200

its a shorter case and its not the easiest to work with, but the airflow seems nice, a friend of mine recommends it at least i forget what shes running though

[raven wharf]

those cases are eh

i like the fact i could go with red if i wanted'

but ik airflow suffers since its only vertical gpu mounts

they are cases meant for watercooling imo

[livid idol]

Y60 is meant for showing off, it's pretty bad for water cooling tbh. Not a lot of space for rads.

[gusty cave]

Ended up going with the Suprim X 4080, got it for 1k. Appreciate all the help from you guys yesterday I can’t remember who it was

[odd siren]

50 euros more than an xtx is decent

[gusty cave]

I found a website that got one returned, everything is still sealed on the card itself but the box had been opened so they had to reduce the price a little

[odd siren]

If 4080's were always 50 above XTX's I'd probably recommend them quite often

Alas

[gusty cave]

Now I wait till November for the rest of the upgrades

[vital oriole]

i wish 4080 was 700-800 and 4070ti 600

[wicked hound]

I wish XX80Ti was still $700 and "Titan"/XX90Ti was still $1200

[oak rivet]

wish gpus were free

[wind sable]

Real

[junior locust]

Yo Alza is smoking crack rn
Inno3D GeForce RTX 4090 iChill Black for 695k HUF (roughly 1880 USD with tax)

About 1370 before tax

I think that's actually a good price

[young crystal]

510 in tax is crazy

actual theft

still though, assuming the build quality is good thats a really fair price

[odd siren]

It's not bad

Basically 280 for the waterblock

And it's a decent model too

The alphacool blocks are great and that 4090 is small af

[raven wharf]

And it’s airflow is bad also so

[fading glacier]

i wish that you should work for free as well

gpus must be priced anyway, there is a lot of jobs that live of them

not as greedy as ngridia thats for sure

[raven wharf]

shush you have a 4090 lmao

[keen nacelle]

dw that was free for him anyways

[raven wharf]

what

how

[oak rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/shambamtymaam-confused-think-math-maths-gif-25089000

[random walrus]

It's easy to get free gpus

Walk into store, grab gpu, leave store

What happens after that may be more difficult and expensive to deal with though

[upbeat sable]

So I'm wanting the g360a and i looked at the maximum cpu cooler height and the one I have is only 10 mm short of reaching the maximum. Is that fine or should I consider a different case

[keen nacelle]

That's fine

Outta curiosity tho what cooler?

[keen nacelle]

Also what cpu was it in the list again?

[upbeat sable]

You put an AMD 5 7600

[keen nacelle]

Ah yeah, and what cooler?

[upbeat sable]

The se-214-xt

[keen nacelle]

It's a bit better than the stock cooler, could use it or the stock, up to you

[upbeat sable]

I already bought the cooler, might as well use it

I just needed to know if it'd fit

[keen nacelle]

Fair enough

Yeah you're more than fine

[upbeat sable]

Would the stock cooler be enough to cool it?

[keen nacelle]

Yeah, idk why I put it in the list if you didn't care about the rgb, im sorry

[upbeat sable]

No I did care

[keen nacelle]

Ah alr

[random walrus]

In my experience the stock cooler is enough but a 214xt or similar will be a lot quieter

[upbeat sable]

And would the case be big enough to hold a amd Radeon 6950 xt

[keen nacelle]

Yeah

[upbeat sable]

Ok

[keen nacelle]

G360a can fit a good amount of 4090s

Actually it fits all 4090s

[lone pond]

What graphics card should I pick for an Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning project
One of the many tools I require is PyTorch and it says in their documentation that I require a GPU that supports CUDA so of course AMD is not an option

[odd siren]

Used nvidia card

Depends on your budget or scale but used nvidia

Emphasis on used so you get a good price

[vital oriole]

^

[keen nacelle]

Yeah really depends on budget like they said, but for different tiers I'd say 3060 12gb, used 3080 12gb/ti, 4070, used 3090, 4090

Potentially 4060 ti 16gb, if what you're doing is vram dependant, I saw one for $420 on sale earlier

[vital oriole]

but even then

the narrower vram bus width hurts ai

[livid idol]

A used 3090 would run you, what, $650? Pretty good option with the 24gb vram

AI definitely will use whatever vram you can throw at it

[odd siren]

You definitely want 30 series over 40 series for ai

The bit bus width of 40 series is disgustingly bad for specifically this one thing

So yeah, up to like, used 3090? Stick with used 30/20 series

Beyond that? Go like 4080, 4090, or AX000 series

/RTX Ada

[prisma yoke]

Where do you guys reliably find 2nd hand cards? eBay?

[keen nacelle]

Ebay fmb or r/hardwareswap

[lone pond]

eBay is sometimes filled with scam sellers

[keen nacelle]

Everywhere is, including amazon and newegg

You just gotta use common sense

[odd siren]

Welcome to the suprim gang

[lone pond]

May be a stupid question but why do the NVIDIA graphic cards product pictures have a fine print saying that if you use it for mining purposes they will void the warranty unless it's labelled as mining series

[lone pond]

You have to buy those which said Amazon Prime eligible/Sold and shipped by Amazon (Newegg) not just fulfilled by them to prevent a great number of scams

[random walrus]

Where is this? Haven't heard of it before

[lone pond]

Read the bottom of these fine print and then you'll realize

[cerulean rover]

gigabyte thing

don't think it's legally enforceable

[livid idol]

They don't really have a way to tell unless you tell them anyway

[harsh compass]

so GIGABYTE - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 GAMING OC 12G or XFX - SPEEDSTER MERC319 AMD Radeon RX 7800XT BLACK 16GB

7800XT is 539 and 4070 is 593

[keen nacelle]

If you're in the us you can get 7800xt for$500 rn and 4070 for $550

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rfV2FT/asrock-challenger-oc-radeon-rx-7800-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx7800xt-cl-16go

[harsh compass]

i am in the us.. thanks

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FnLdnQ/gigabyte-windforce-oc-geforce-rtx-4070-12-gb-video-card-gv-n4070wf3oc-12gd

[harsh compass]

which is better you think

[keen nacelle]

7800xt would be better if you're gaming

Do you know what power supply you have, if you're upgrading an existing pc?

[harsh compass]

i have a 750 watt hx750 corsair

[keen nacelle]

Ah nice, would be plenty for that gpu

[harsh compass]

awesome thanks

[gusty cave]

https://youtu.be/SA5YwIIQlAc?feature=shared

For those who have seen this do you agree with what he’s saying

[livid idol]

He says a lot in that bit I generally agree. Even after accounting for inflation, high end GPU prices are getting ridiculously high. Way higher than you could explain as being only increased production cost.
The best option for midrange and below right now is used.

[gusty cave]

Wonder when the market will go back to “normal”

IF* lol

[prisma yoke]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/225792914530 🤔

Seems too good to be true?

Oh, I tonight it was buy now for $350. It’s starting $350 and buy now $500

[prisma yoke]

Seems worth

[prisma yoke]

On 2nd thought 7800xt probably nicer for noise. Should I just get the $500 one? Might something like this OC version be worthwhile? https://www.microcenter.com/product/670316/powercolor-amd-radeon-rx-7800-xt-red-devil-overclocked-triple-fan-16gb-gddr6-pcie-40-graphics-card

[keen nacelle]

Atp there's a 6900xt for $580, id either go for the $500 one or that

Or this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GYfxFT/xfx-speedster-qick-319-core-radeon-rx-7800-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx-78tqickf9

[prisma yoke]

That one looks nice

It’s sleek looking and I recognize the XFX brand. It’ll have to ship, so I guess I’ll order it tonight

There’s a version for $20 more. The MERC319. I think it’s just cosmetic

[raven wharf]

just a shower thought, ik nvidia aibs do, but do any AMD aibs make water cooled card with an AIO attached like some nvidia cards do

Ik power color makes the waterblocked 7900s

[vital oriole]

nitro lc

liquid devil

sapphire toxic

[livid idol]

Sapphire has the toxic models for 6000 series, and Asus has a couple 7000 series models

[vital oriole]

and asrock aqua

[odd siren]

?

[vital oriole]

wait

i got it confused for their cpu aio lmao

nitro+ aio apparently exists

[odd siren]

Yes it does

Lol

[odd siren]

Strix lc, toxic, liquid devil, aqua

Strix waterblock(?)

[vital oriole]

^

[odd siren]

Gigabyte waterforce(?)

Been a minute but I think those might also be there

[vital oriole]

no 7000 waterforce atm

[odd siren]

Thinking of 6000

Yeah def no 7000

Only ld and aqua rn iirc

[raven wharf]

i want

not for 1300

but i want

isnt this the same thing??

[odd siren]

They had different factory clocks

[raven wharf]

i just realized its not even a 6950 either

[odd siren]

Extreme however had a "different" chip

Xtxh

[raven wharf]

gpus confuse me

[odd siren]

Lol

Xtx was the basic 6900xt

[raven wharf]

wdym by xtx

[odd siren]

Xtxh was the faster 6900xt and 6950xt

It's a chip classification

[raven wharf]

is that the kind of chip in it?

ah alr

[odd siren]

Ye

[raven wharf]

does that have anything to do with the

7900 naming scheme

[odd siren]

They're technically the same but ones a higher bin and unlocked

[raven wharf]

cuz the 7900xt should of been the 7800 xt

imo

[odd siren]

It doesnt

It's just them being confusing

[vital oriole]

^

[snow sparrow]

hey guys

😉

i've got a HP Z220 Convertible MiniTower Workstation desktop.

intel Xeon E3-1270v2 3.5 Ghz 8 Core Cpu 16GB RAM DDR3 1600mhz

but no graphics card

the desktop has 400W Power supply and i plan on getting a AMD RadeOn 6600 8GB GPU..

is 400W PSU Good enough for High end gaming on the Radeon 6600? 🙂

[odd siren]

you mean a 4 core?

[snow sparrow]

no bro

[odd siren]

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/65727/intel-xeon-processor-e31270-v2-8m-cache-3-50-ghz.html

[snow sparrow]

on the device manager of window 10 it says the cpu is 8cores

[odd siren]

says 4 cores on intel website

8 thread

[snow sparrow]

ya i know

[odd siren]

eh

[snow sparrow]

but it shows 8 cores on Windows 10 Device manager.

[odd siren]

ye on task manager it'll show 8 boxes

[snow sparrow]

i even counted it 😉

[odd siren]

it's 8 threads

lol

anyway

yes it'll work

6600 good for 1080p most things rn

[snow sparrow]

ok is the Intel core i7 3770 a 12 core or 8 core? cause i think i will also buy the intel core i7 3770 for the HP Z220 from ebay

[odd siren]

4 cores 8 threads
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/65719/intel-core-i73770-processor-8m-cache-up-to-3-90-ghz.html

this is all during intel's big era of "4 cores is enough" so

[snow sparrow]

but F#ck me! the Intel Xeon E3 1270V2 is a Powerful monster of a cpu i can boot up windows 10 in less than 30 seconds with A NVIDIA Geforc GT 210 Graphics card and 16GB RAM DDR3 and a 1TB good old fashioned HDD not IDE not SSD but a jolly good old HDD.

[odd siren]

ye

if a windows is configured properly they can boot pretty fast

[snow sparrow]

the cpu is powerful i must say i think i will definitely get a intel core i7 3770

[odd siren]

how much were you looking to spend for all of it?

I can't imagine much but just curious\

[snow sparrow]

well my dads friend let me into her RAIN account and made me upgrade to RainONE and so we stand a chance to win R100,000 and my dad will give me R25,000 if we win. 😄

[odd siren]

R? which country are you from

[snow sparrow]

the R100,000

South Africa xD

R = Rands.

[odd siren]

ah ok

not sure on what the value of that would be

is the pc 25000 rand???

I really hope not I hope it's more like 2000 max 😂

[gusty cave]

Anyone using strimmers on a 4080? 011d case

Does the side panel put pressure on the cable?

[gusty cave]

Struggling to get this gpu into my mobo lol

[gusty cave]

Can I use my 4080 with 2 8pin connectors till my 3rd cable gets here?

[keen nacelle]

with a pigtail yes

[gusty cave]

Okay some people say it’s a no go

But for a a few days it should be okay?

[keen nacelle]

it's not ideal, but it'll be fine

also where did you get the other cable from

[gusty cave]

Had to message cooler master lol

[keen nacelle]

ah ok as long as it's directly from them, just wanted to be sure it wasn't a random cable you found on amazon or smthn

[gusty cave]

Yeah it’s from them

This adapater you get with the 4080 is awful well for my case anyways

Can’t even use the sag bracket msi gave with my case lol

[keen nacelle]

dw about it, you can use basically anything for a sag bracket

some legos would do

[gusty cave]

How bad is that

Well until I get my new strimmers

[spare relic]

How bad is what

[gusty cave]

The bend

Against the side panel

[keen nacelle]

it's fine

[spare relic]

Better than mine

[gusty cave]

😭😭😭

I’ve just seen loads of videos about making sure the wire isn’t bent with these 40 series cards

And making sure you use 3 8pin connectors

They make it sound like those two need to be spot on or the card will go up in flames

[gusty cave]

Is voltage supposed to be at 1?

[heady turtle]

sounds right ye

[gusty cave]

How do I adjust fan speeds on nvidia?

On amd it was done through their software can’t find it on nvidia

It’s loud asf rn lol

[heady turtle]

you can use msi afterburner, NV have no native software support for it

[gusty cave]

Is 880 rpm when gpu in 5% utilisation

Too much lol

[heady turtle]

whats that in %?

[gusty cave]

how do i check that

[livid idol]

hwinfo can tell you, sensor mode

[gusty cave]

Does it not show all 3 fans?

[livid idol]

My GPU only has 2 fans. It'll show all three if you have three.

Oh and you can set the fan speed in the nvidia overlay, performance menu

You can enable the overlay in geforce experience settings, alt-Z to open it

[odd siren]

you should still try to use it even if it's at a weird spot. Ada has the vram next to the pcie slot which is the first spot to bend on these cards. 30 series cards had a lot of cards die from sag due to this

[odd siren]

2 fans are programmed to 1 plug iirc, middle fan to the other plug

[odd siren]

you may want to look at, specifically a cablemod angled adapter

should be alright for this use case, but it'll help you fit the gpu comfortably lol

big maybe on that one, wouldn't suggest any other angled adapters cos they're all suspect to serious issues

[velvet grail]

6950xt pulling just 150w in beamng with high settings? Just 150? Isn't it meant to use more?
Not complaining because my fps looks fine, just curious if that's right or if the card is leaving performance behind

[livid idol]

That game isn't exactly demanding on the GPU, it's mostly physics

If you wanted to increase your usage and power draw turn on super resolution and render in 4k

[median delta]

hey guys, whats a good laptop for video/photo editing + gaming? should i just be going for something with good specs all around or look for something specific

[odd siren]

Good all round specs yea

Best buy is normally the place to go for a laptop deal rn

[median delta]

oh really?

[odd siren]

Ye, they often have decent deals around the 800-1100 mark

[median delta]

oh nice nice ill have to look at best buy

[odd siren]

Laptops like the LOQ, Zephyrus G14, TUF A15

Basically anything not a brand new msi

[median delta]

i did hear about the zeph g14

is some companies better than others

because i know i have a bias against lenovo since we have a desktop but its like the worst thing ever

[odd siren]

In this day? They all have quirks or faults

[median delta]

not sure if their computers are actually good or not

[odd siren]

But they're all mostly pretty good

[median delta]

ok cool

[odd siren]

Msi is a flag from me as they went from a great design to a terrible design for their current gen laptops

But that's all I'm privy to rn

And even then the laptops themselves aren't bad

Just a far cry from what they were up to about a year or two ago

[median delta]

ah i see what you’re saying

what about cooling? thats the thing i hate most about laptops, typing and burning my fingers off

[odd siren]

Totally agree

If you don't overspend on one and stick to the low-mid range, you shouldn't end up with one that feels like a volcano in your lap 💀

[median delta]

ah okay i see haha

[odd siren]

Cooling designs have gotten much better in the last couple years

[median delta]

so more powerful is not always better cooling

[odd siren]

Much much better

Yes

You got it in one

It has an i9? Avoid avoid avoid

Those are all heat pads

[median delta]

ooo okay ill look out for that

[odd siren]

I'd aim for like

New R5/R7

32gb ram

And anything nvidia 4050/3060 plus

[median delta]

is r5/r7 the model?

of the laptop

[odd siren]

That's the cpu sorry

Reason for it is

[median delta]

oh all good

[odd siren]

Ryzen cpus have better battery

And in a drag race intel is slightly better for this stuff cos of quick sync

In turn for worse battery

By a good degree

[median delta]

oh i see i see

[odd siren]

And for a laptop you want battery life right?

[median delta]

yeah id definitely take better battery life

[odd siren]

It's the biggest thing in something like that

Apart from that? You can't, really go wrong

As long as you check the price is right for it

[median delta]

sounds good, i will have to drop it in here to price check since i dont really know what they should be

[odd siren]

All good, we'd be glad to help

[median delta]

but thanj you felix!!! you’ve been a great help for me :D

i really appreciate it

[odd siren]

All good my guy

Bread and butter stuff

You'll find a few of these laptops won't perfectly match the specs, but stuff like ram or storage are upgradeable

And the screen is mostly secondary imo, but if it has a good dci-p3 rating, that will be great for your editing stuff

So treat that as a nice to have, rather than a necessity

You can use stuff like your phone (usually they ship with great screens nowadays, oleds?) To double check your colour work

[median delta]

is dci-p3 how true the colors are?

because thats also what i was going to be looking for

[odd siren]

Yes, the higher the better

90%+ is really good

But the closer to 100 the better

[median delta]

oh awesome

[odd siren]

Oleds are usually really accurate

[median delta]

nice ill try to see which ones have oled

[odd siren]

Usually the expensive lappys

[median delta]

haha yeah i bet

[odd siren]

But yeah if you find one with a good dci-p3, it might be something worth your time

[median delta]

i have a budget of around $2,500 max which is pretty high so i should be okay

[odd siren]

Oh yeah 2500 you could probably land a 4080 spec

Definitely those will ship with decent 1440p screens

[median delta]

ooo cool

[odd siren]

R5, R7, maybe R9

16-32gb ram (upgrade to 32 if needed)

512gb-1tb storage

Uh

4080 16(?)gb

Hopefully 100+ watts power

1440p 144hz or above

Good screen with 90%+ dci-p3

That should be very doable for 2500

[median delta]

awesome! ill look out for something with those specs

[odd siren]

[median delta]

thanks again dude you were such a help for me

[odd siren]

All good

[median delta]

i have no idea what im looking for when it comes to laptops

more of a desktop guy

[odd siren]

It's an easy argument nowadays that laptops are becoming quite competent value if you pick the right one

Like a 4080 mobile won't perform exactly like a 4080 desktop, but it'll get fairly close

The ryzen cpus basically are one to one with their desktop halves though

[median delta]

oh awesome

[odd siren]

Intel's as well (if you let them run at full power 💀)

[median delta]

i have a ryzen cpu for my desktop but i forget which one it is

been good tho

[odd siren]

And then you also have the screen, keyboard

And it's mobile

[median delta]

yep yep

need it for school coming up and editing on the go

[odd siren]

Ye I getcha

I have a laptop for travel too

[median delta]

nice nice

[odd siren]

Depending on what you're doing tho you could probably aim a lot lower than 2500

Worth thinking about what's good enough imo versus what can be bought

Cos I would say like, and I recommend them a lot, 3060 laptops really are do all kinds of laptops

Equivalent to a 4050

[median delta]

oh i see

yeah im not looking to max out my budget but whatever gets the job done

[odd siren]

I would already say those are pretty competent for editing, having used it myself

Like 1080p h.265 codec, it does quick work

You don't need anything super flash unless you want to film and render 4K

[median delta]

yeah it makes sense

well i do film and as of now i film 1080 but maybe in the future i will go to 4k

i only do 1080 because of the file size rn

[odd siren]

That said, a 4080 laptop is basically a desktop replacement so

So really, just things you want to think about ig

[median delta]

yeah yeah it makes sense

[odd siren]

Oh

One more thing

try

To get 40 series here

40 series gpus have av1 codec

Big big improvement

Lower bitrate for your work, but higher clarity and quality

[median delta]

oo okay i see

i need to learn more about codecs

still foreign to me

[odd siren]

If you have a good phone, you can film in what's called RAW

Export to the laptop

Edit then convert to a video file using av1

[odd siren]

Think of it like, the language the video turns into when you export it

It exports it in that language (quality)

[median delta]

jaja i have a sony a7iii so its got raw capabilities on it but i shoot in slog rn

[odd siren]

Ah ye

[median delta]

ohhh i see what you’re saying

[odd siren]

I have a 1III

[median delta]

very niceee

[odd siren]

AV1 will be nice for your projects

Shoot 4K, downsample to 1080p via export with av1

Very very clear

[median delta]

awesome i’ll definitely look into av1 then

[odd siren]

[median delta]

or actually just 40 series

[odd siren]

7000 series from amd has it

Radeon gpus

But they have like, 1 laptop chip?

Which is 7600m

Take from that what you will

It's more or less a 4060 afaik

[median delta]

ah i see

[vital oriole]

it's 4050 but faster than 4060 in some games

[odd siren]

Ah

[gusty cave]

Don’t use Direct 12 on apex legends

[hasty monolith]

quick question amd fluid motion frames can be used on any amd 6000 series or up gpu or does it need to have to be a amd 7000 series gpu?

[livid idol]

Just 7000 so far, that may change in the near future since it's still only a preview tech.

[hasty monolith]

thanks. im happy getting fsr 3 in immortals of aveum and cyberpunk with my 6800xt and 5600 cpu hopefully i can actually hit 60fps with fsr 3 at 4k with rt. rn cyberpunk i could barely get 4k70 without rt fsr 2

[keen nacelle]

With rt idts, rt on 6000 series really was not good

Can't hurt to try though

[odd siren]

Need to see more data but FSR 3 seems not too bad so far

Only just dropped and they seem to have done a decent job, just don't run vsync with it and **fps under the monitor refresh rate

[hasty monolith]

on my 6800xt, 5600 cpu and 32 gig ram i got 30 fps in forspoken demo native at 4k max settings. with fsr3 and frame gen i got between 77-125fps depending on what mode of fsr3 i use. not bad at all

[junior locust]

Did it feel like 75+ FPS tho

I don't think that'd be a very great experience

[vital oriole]

from my experience with dlss 3

the extra frames does feel true to the numbers

so i don't think fsr 3's new frame gen would be too different

[junior locust]

It's honestly cool that 6000 series gets FSR3 and frame gen

But isn't it game specific?

Not really keeping up to date on the matter admittedly

[odd siren]

Did you notice any input lag?

That's the big thing for me that I HATE about DLSS 3 FG

[junior locust]

IIRC that's just a frame gen thing in general

Cuz you can trick your eyes to see more frames

But your game engine is still at 30fps so you can only really react at like 30ms intervals

It's possible my math is way off it's 8pm and I've been up since 5:30am

[odd siren]

If your game has more than 30ms input lag you should be able to quite easily notice it

It's different to frame interval lag

Or rather frame pacing

[cyan vault]

What games is it in again? I can test it out rq

[odd siren]

Forspoken and avium iirc

[vital oriole]

it's not just tricking your eyes

[odd siren]

I'm just curious to know if the input lag is noticeable at all

[vital oriole]

with fg

[odd siren]

And how bad

That's the real downside to nvidia fg

It makes it useless for anything multiplayer

[vital oriole]

in the few titles i have tried

even in fh 5

input lag was not a problem

[odd siren]

Wha

Ok maybe I'm not being clear lol

[vital oriole]

ah lol

[odd siren]

When you build a pc, every single part factors in to what is considered total system latency

TUF A15's screen is known for a lot of overshoot and poor response time

So maybe it's a laptop thing?

[vital oriole]

maybe

[odd siren]

But the added latency of FG from input lag is basically reversing the point of extra fps, even if you use reflex

As you say, it's like tricking the eyes

What I'm hoping for with fsr3 is less input lag so it's genuinely usable

[vital oriole]

to me it doesn't even benefit anything anyway, other than fooling my eyes

[odd siren]

It would

In hard to run games with multiplayer it could very well be useful

provided

The input lag is low

[vital oriole]

but it did help me get 144 fps lock

tried mp and it's ok, then again racing game

not guns go pew pew

[odd siren]

Wym racing game

Racing games need low input lag too lol

[vital oriole]

im speaking of fh5 and unbound

i unno, it doesn't hurt my performance

but it might be to do with laptop's already bleh response time

[odd siren]

It probably does in ways you can't notice

I can say that with a bit of confidence too cos back in about, 2018? I switched from a garbage age old monitor to a modern one

[vital oriole]

mmm, fair enough

now im out, eepy

[odd siren]

When I did my input lag dropped down to basically nothing

But my performance in game shot up

I was now winning in my region after struggling top 5

[vital oriole]

damn

[odd siren]

It does kinda make a difference depending on the level of play

[vital oriole]

tbf i do notice the overshoot and response time being bleh even in roblox

just quickly moving my cursor

[odd siren]

Yeah, if you can feel a slight, like, drag feeling?

That's poor input lag

[vital oriole]

makes aiming accurately hard sometimes

[odd siren]

Roblox is supposedly really easy for that

[vital oriole]

with particularly small crosshairs

i can't see a thing unless my eyes really track it

like fixate on it

[odd siren]

Ye, and things that you could likely do just fine if you had better snappiness of the machine

You might miss by a little

And get frustrated as it didn't work out

[vital oriole]

a little sadge a15 has terrible input lag for gamering

a16 doesn't have this issue

as the panel is very good

[odd siren]

I'm quite sensitive to it, I can notice the feel of grip or my pure reaction

[vital oriole]

advantage program makes me want radeon powered lappy

[odd siren]

Response time iirc, but the overall effect is similar

[vital oriole]

ye

input lag isn't the problem, but response time of the display itself

yucky ngl

[odd siren]

Idk

It's hard to notice these things unless you have a second frame of reference

I still think the A15 is good don't get me wrong

You can adjust to input lag or response time

[hasty monolith]

i cant really tell i use a 4k 144hz gigabyte m28u monitor. i also use controller

[odd siren]

Can't really feel it?

That's a good enough answer imo

Controller or not btw it won't matter

[hasty monolith]

let me give it another try native vvs quality mode frame gen on

[odd siren]

Be tempted to mod fm8 with it if it's hard to notice the lag

The older games run slower in game time with fps so you can go faster by increasing fps

Cheers btw

[oak rivet]

combining dlss with fsr frame gen would have been good for turing and ampere

[vital oriole]

Continuing from last night cuz I went to sleep

Yeah I mean, I have adjusted to my a15's display weaknesses already

Outside of response time and overshoot issues, it produces nice colors that are easy to the eyes

Eye fatigue is greatly reduced once I stopped using my old lappy

[odd siren]

Oh yeah I don't get eye fatigue on the tuf either

I never noticed that myself

[vital oriole]

yee

i never get it, at all

[odd siren]

Posting this for well, clarity issues since I reckon this will possibly become a topic for fsr 3.

Red is good frametime pacing, for any game. If you get variations in fps under 4-6ms consistently then you'll have a perfectly fine experience. Go higher than that and then you'll start to get what is known as microstuttering

When the pacing isn't consistent and varies wildly

Say

2 frames, 3ms apart

Then 2 frames 20ms apart

You really notice it

It does appear to be that fsr3 does introduce a slightly wider variation in frametime pacing due to frame insertion

[vital oriole]

exact same behavior as dlss 3

[odd siren]

Likely yeah

[vital oriole]

i feel it might suffer from similar drawbacks

since it has to process every frame

[odd siren]

But from analysis I've seen it's not microstuttering at all

I'm killing that egg before it hatches LOL

Slight variations of a few ms is absolutely not stuttering

[vital oriole]

ye

i don't notice microstutters with dlss 3 myself, just adding this as additional info

but i can't say much given laptop's display isn't particularly good

[odd siren]

Looks like rdna 3 runs cs2 terribly

Probably getting fixed in a driver update

XTX = 6950XT...not quite right lol

[raven wharf]

crazy how the price was at 630 yesterday

[odd siren]

Probably a different supplier

[odd siren]

@livid idol can you unpin the radeon driver pin and what do you think about pinning this for a kind of bite sized infographic?

[livid idol]

CSGO frame time is kind of a moot point now with CS2 out and replacing it

Even a 4090 has inconsistent frame time in that

[odd siren]

I get that, more for just in general, not the game lol

[oak rivet]

12700k

[livid idol]

Yeah
That's what GN used in their testing

But it's been mostly GPU limited based on their testing

At least, anything less than a 4080 at 1440p ultra is GPU limited

[oak rivet]

yeah its just hilarious to use that for gpu tests

i am getting over 500 at 1440p let alone 1080p like gn showed

[livid idol]

They're upgrading to 14th gen soon

And you're probably not using ultra quality settings

[oak rivet]

i am indeed using ultra settings

the 12700k just capped out with the 4080

[livid idol]

Huh. Well they did say it's inconstinent

[oak rivet]

tpu used a 13900k and it shows scaling

[livid idol]

It's an early test anyway, forget a single source and focus on the overall picture

[odd siren]

You don't need the latest and greatest cpu to experience being gpu bound

[oak rivet]

oh good they will catch up

[limber flax]

If the point is to show that you're gpu bound there true

There isn't a need to use the cutting edge to figure that out

That's called wasting money for no good reason because you'll just get the same result

[dreamy laurel]

Honestly theres not a huge difference betwee quality settings imo

Or at least the low/medium settings look really good

[dreamy laurel]

Im getting 350+ on my rig

Fsr off

Ill send settings later

1440p

People are getting wildly different performance even with same/similar hardware

[vital oriole]

it's definitely game needing fixes

[heady turtle]

Good game design :

[heady turtle]

Shame really, GN used 13900k too but CS at least csgo loves amd cpus

[dreamy laurel]

Most pro/high level players turn environment settings to low and models to a higher setting

Better player visibility

Also a lot play stretched res at about 950p or something like that

[heady turtle]

Yep

I literally play 4:3 stretched to the equivalent res of 1440p

[harsh compass]

The 4070 gigabyte 3 fan one came with a pcie adapter it has 2 ends for pcie and then one side plugs into the graphics card.. do i have to have two pcie cables plugged into the adapter or will just one work

[heady stratus]

Counterstrike is for long time fan boys, not new players

[turbid stream]

is this a good score?

[heady turtle]

You need 2

[harsh compass]

Okay so the leds are on, on the gpu but no pictures and no fan startup at all and doesn’t show in control panel… tried to install drivers and it doesnt detect it

[livid idol]

The fans won't spin until it heats up under load.
It might be seated wrong in the PCIe slot, or a power issue of some kind like a loose cable. Make sure the cable is firmly and securely clicked into the GPU, that's been a real issue. It can take more force than some are comfortable with.

[harsh compass]

I got it.. i had to use 2 separate psu to pcie cables instead of the 1 that was daisy chained

[dreamy laurel]

upward trend moment

[vital oriole]

lol

[upbeat sable]

So the processor I was recommended for the RX 6950xt has a serious bottleneck with it. Should I get a weaker Graphics card, because I already bought the processor

[keen nacelle]

What cpu

[spare relic]

I would not bat an eye at bottlenecking with hardware from this decade

It just doesn't matter

[vital oriole]

Did you use bottleneck calculator?

If you did, it's wildly inaccurate

[keen nacelle]

I mean, put a 10100f with a 6950xt and have a miserable time

[spare relic]

I would in fact have a wonderful time because it doesn't matter

[keen nacelle]

Wdym?

It definitely matters

10100f 6950xt vs 5600 6950xt would be a hugeee difference

Also being cpu bottlenecked can be a very annoying time in games, since it leads to stuttering and frame drops

[livid idol]

Every computer has a bottleneck. It's literally unavoidable by definition; if there was no bottleneck you'd get infinite fps.

[vital oriole]

and there wouldn't be new tech released, ever

we all would happily use one hardware

[odd siren]

Not to be heavy handed here but I do think I wouldn't want my 6900xt running like a 6700xt because I put a 10100f with it

That said, bottleneck calculators are a complete waste of time

[keen nacelle]

^

[odd siren]

It's like ubm or most things 1usmus made

A short answer and a terrible one

[upbeat sable]

Amd 5 7600

[upbeat sable]

^

I'm just scared I'm not gonna be getting the full performance from my GPU, especially considering it's $630+ price tag

[random walrus]

i think you'll be fine with a 7600

[keen nacelle]

The 7600 is plenty for a 6950xt, you can pair it with a 4090 and be fine at 4k (it would still be a bottleneck but that doesn't mean it's not fine)

[random walrus]

oh yeah resolution is important

[keen nacelle]

You're definitely fine

Sorry I had terrible connection for the last hour and couldn't send messages, idk how that other one sent

[fossil stirrup]

Finally got around to troubleshooting that annoying five short beeping error that was always happening when system rebooted with it's monitor off. The simple fix is to enable CSM which normally comes disabled.
As for the annoying issue where a fan or other RGB device is staying on, after power off. Under misc, there are two LED features, system power on state and sleep/Hybernation/soft on/off state. If these two are on, turn them off, and next time you reboot your PC and shut down, the fan lights should remain off. And when Powering up with monitor off, no more five beeps and gigabyte motherboard jumping into BIOS, for those like me that run servers off your system and not always home to turn monitor on after a power outage. If you want the five beeps so you know when Microsoft has just shoved an unwanted update down your throat, then just leave CSM disabled and turn off the motherboards logo upon boot option. You'll hear the five beeps, but system will still boot into windows 11 with monitor off.

[junior locust]

Wait what's up with 1usmus?

[odd siren]

His OC tools are basically useless

He puts probably a lot of time into them, but their accuracy for "one-click overclocking" has a very very low hit rate for anything decent

He's one guy, and limited manpower will result in limited sampling

[junior locust]

You mean the Ryzen Master or that RDNA 2 OC tool?

[odd siren]

Mhm

Or dram calculator

[junior locust]

Makes sense

[odd siren]

Etc etc

[junior locust]

Yeye

[odd siren]

They're all short answers and bad ones

[junior locust]

I see

[odd siren]

And he probably spent a lot of time on them, but they're just not that good lol

[raven wharf]

is this ever going to drop in price so i dont have to take out a loan to afford it https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-11308-08-20g/p/N82E16814202404

[keen nacelle]

I doubt to a "reasonable" price

Why would anyone pay that much for a gpu worse than a 4090 and $300 more

[raven wharf]

why is it still 1800 in 2023

[keen nacelle]

Not that many of them being made

[odd siren]

Toxic extreme will never drop

It was a limited edition

If you wanted something on par with that go get one of the last 6950's before they're all gone

And even then a 6900XT is just way more worth it rn
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CLWBD3/asrock-radeon-rx-6900-xt-16-gb-phantom-gaming-d-oc-video-card-rx6900xt-pgd-16go

[viscid vault]

Still see it in gamers nexus benchmark lists and it scores too high to ignore

Stupid money but hey

[raven wharf]

[wraith wagon]

I bought a 4070 Ti and it charged me then I accidentally hit cancel is there a way to still get it now or do I have to wait till I get my refund then buy it again? I was planing on getting it done sooner since I already got my other components and have been saving up to get the GPU for a month

[odd siren]

Wait until your account is cleared imo

I see it too often lately

Someone buys twice then they get double charged

And then they don't wait for the cancel to process

Also while were at it lad

7900xt is basically identical performance overall for $720 rn

Could save you $80?

[wraith wagon]

I already have everything planned to use the 4070 ti and I want stable drivers but in the future I might go for an AMD build

[wraith wagon]

And what do you mean by clear account?

[odd siren]

Bank account clears

You'll have a pending charge on your account

It'll take a couple days to clear

Sometimes 24 hours, you never know

[wraith wagon]

Its been a day so far

And it says 3 days or 2 when I read the website

[odd siren]

It depends on the bank

That's not a Newegg thing

The newegg cancel would go through within a day but banks can take anywhere between minutes to even weeks

[wraith wagon]

My bank is CIBC so IDK how long it would take it just said around 2 -5 days

[odd siren]

Sometimes it can all take a bit longer cos of weekends

Weekends aren't business days after all

[wraith wagon]

That is a little annoying because I just got enough and then this happens. I am upgrading to a desktop from a laptop with a 1650 and I planned on starting to do more 3d modeling and some game developing stuff here and there and I would be quite ok for a couple years with it

[odd siren]

Think of it as just a big queue in the line

You'll get your turn and the account will be cleared of the pending charge eventually

Banks have always been that way

If the world was full of only honest people we wouldn't need to wait, lol

[wraith wagon]

I was about to start building my pc when I bought it but that happened so I stopped to wait till I was able to order it again

I have been delayed about 2 months in total because my hours have been cut and cut again

[odd siren]

I wish I could help you man but that's not anything that's fixed without waiting

I've certainly been in that hot seat before

Wanting to just get into it

[wraith wagon]

Just glad I could get some conformation since my email has not been responded to and I tried a bunch of other things like reddit and what not

[odd siren]

You could try dm'ing @cursive urchin if you want proper confirmation

None of us here are from newegg but I've had a lot of experience with it

[wraith wagon]

I just wanted to make sure I would get my money back because of some reviews I have seen saying it took weeks

[odd siren]

Yeah we've had people come here before about it

But the common problem is they buy the same thing again without waiting*

It's better to just wait and see

If it's not done in 5 days reach out to newegg and your bank again

Especially if you aren't living on a lot, you'd be better off not spending what you haven't got saved

[wraith wagon]

I don't have enough to buy 2 1,208 dollar GPUs since I am 16 turning 17 on the 9th

[odd siren]

Ye

Just keep waiting

It'll happen

Also

1208???

What did you buy

[wraith wagon]

After taxes

[odd siren]

Can you link the gpu lad

[wraith wagon]

1079 Asus tuf 4070 ti

[odd siren]

Whaaaa

That's not worth it lad

Spend 800 and no more on a 4070 ti

800 is even then overpriced

You bought a 4070ti for 4080 money mate

Can you make a pcpartpicker list real quick? I wanna see, maybe I can help save you a bit more money here

[wraith wagon]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newegg.ca/amp/asus-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-tuf-rtx4070ti-12g-gaming/p/N82E16814126607

Oops in CAD

[odd siren]

Oh cad

Ohhh ok

[wraith wagon]

Sorry about that

It is a little below retail so it was better then nothing

[odd siren]

This would be better imo if it fits in your planned case
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/vTbTwP/zotac-gaming-trinity-oc-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-12-gb-video-card-zt-d40710j-10p

All 4070 Ti's are pretty much overbuilt so there's no reason to buy any specific

So you'd save $40

Trinity is also quite nice this gen

Much better thermal designs over previous generations

[wraith wagon]

People say not to trust zotac and I went with the Asus tuf because I found the least amount of problems with it compared to other manufacturers

[odd siren]

Maybe not zotac of old?

Zotac since 30 series has been fine

In fact I'd argue zotac is the brand I hear the least about

Not like powercolour, gigabyte, evga

Etc

I have a lot of asus tuf stuff and I'd argue it's not really worth the extra

[wraith wagon]

I heard just bad build quality and other problems i forgot

[odd siren]

Nah it's fine

All nvidia cards are approved by nvidia before sale

It wouldn't be on the shelf if it wasn't at least semi competent

[wraith wagon]

I would now but it is no longer 1039 anymore

It is now 1139

[odd siren]

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_557_559&item_id=233761

They even have open box for 968

Which is actually a fantastic price

For a 4070 ti

That's like, 700 or less in usd

A proper price for a card like that imo

Save everywhere you can lad, especially at your age

[wraith wagon]

I would but it is not available in store or shipping it says

[odd siren]

Ah store pickup only

What about best buy

👀

Wtf I can't add anything to the cart in best buy

Sites borked

Welp, that would be my advice anyway

If you wanted to show me the rest of your build using pcpartpicker we might find a lot of better cheaper stuff you could use

Like for example

Using an asus motherboard in 2023 they're almost always overpriced and arguably no better or even worse than the competition

[wraith wagon]

It is 48 dollors cheaper so I will do that instead

[odd siren]

Sounds good mate

Other things like ssds

People often suggest like

980 pros

Which are terrible buys rn

Samsung has a scandal going on with their 980 pros rn

[vital oriole]

has been for a long time tbf

aside from the scandals

[odd siren]

They're dying from firmware bugs

But Samsung isn't replacing them under warranty

They've only issued a firmware update and expect you to know that

[wraith wagon]

I got a WD black SN850X 1tb for 50% off

[odd siren]

Ooo how much

[wraith wagon]

It was 200 got it for 100

[odd siren]

Oooof

[vital oriole]

meh

[odd siren]

Is that after tax

[wraith wagon]

No

[odd siren]

Oooooofff

Ok, not your fault

[vital oriole]

im blaming the sales illusion

100 is expensive for 1tb

[odd siren]

Yeah websites put on fake sales a lot now

[vital oriole]

200 was when it launched years ago

[odd siren]

Mind showing us anything else you've bought?

[wraith wagon]

I got the fastest ssd I could and it was 50% off

[odd siren]

Yes but it's not worth 100 now

[wraith wagon]

Just give me a sec

Ya I bought it a month ago

[vital oriole]

if it was 2tb for 100

i'd be ok with it

[odd siren]

It's ca

So like

[vital oriole]

oh

[odd siren]

I'd expect 1tb for maybe 80?

For a good genn4

100 for 850x could be the normal going price for cheap but I bet we could beat it

[wraith wagon]

Shared List https://newegg.io/d98de92

[odd siren]

Btw @wraith wagon I'm not grilling you for your decisions

They don't write a book on this stuff

In no way is it your fault

Ok, how much do you own rn?

[wraith wagon]

Everything but the GPU

[odd siren]

I see

Let me take a quick look

It doesn't look too bad

But for like, 2599 cad? That's pricey

[wraith wagon]

A lot of it was on sale when I bought it

Mobo ram ssd

[odd siren]

Cooler?

Psu?

[wraith wagon]

I think I got the PSU for 149

[odd siren]

Also do you mind an mATX mobo (a better one) in an your fractal north?

[wraith wagon]

AK620 for it price rn