graphics-cards

[gusty cave]

4080 or 7900XT

[vital oriole]

^

[odd siren]

yeah 4080 is a pass unless you can get it for like, 950 or less

[heady turtle]

7900xtx

Unless cheaper for some weird reason

[magic pebble]

Yum

[velvet grail]

That GPU is literally one degree away from thermal throttling :0

[velvet grail]

I just did something stupid
I set a custom refresh rate in adrenalin (165 as my monitor) and it went black screen, doesn't matter how many times I restart it doesn't work. My monitor also has difficulty changing the source... What should I do now?

The monitor still works (I guess) since I can display an image using my laptop trough hdmi but haven't tried dp

[keen nacelle]

Try a diff port on gpu

[heady turtle]

Also you can boot windows in safe mode by turning on and off the pc as soon as it starts to boot about 3 times i think

[velvet grail]

Doesn't work

[velvet grail]

I got my windows windows10m usb and it boots, is there like a directory where custom resolutions/refresh rates are saved in adrenalin?

[heady turtle]

Uh idk

I was gonna suggest safe mode and uninstall the driver

[velvet grail]

So do I just force shut down while it's starting?

How do I know when windows is booting up?

@heady turtle

[heady turtle]

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/start-your-pc-in-safe-mode-in-windows-92c27cff-db89-8644-1ce4-b3e5e56fe234

The blank screen method

[velvet grail]

Worked, thanks. I guess ddu now...?

[heady turtle]

Just regular uninstall since amd

[velvet grail]

What do you mean by that?

Also I have an SD card that should be 64GB, there are two partitions and one is a efi partition and I can't delete it in any way. Even if it's not linked to the other one since the rest is completely empty

[heady turtle]

Amds regular uninstall is supposed to work better than ddu for reinstalling on amd

[velvet grail]

So you mean go to the AMD folder, find adrenalin and look for adrenalin uninstall exe or something like that?

[heady turtle]

There should be a uninstall option in control panel/settings

But that should work too ye

[velvet grail]

There is "AMD software"

So I'm going with that one

[heady turtle]

Sounds probably fine

Could be chipset drivers tho

[velvet grail]

Worked, thanks

And should really have some sort of security stuff that prevents blank screens from happening because you just did a stupid error

@heady turtle so I have to set a custom (lower) refresh rate for my GPU since the idle consumption is very high. To do that I use adrenalin custom resolution. And there is this option called "timing standard" and thats on manual. I noticed that setting 164, 163hz... With CVT doesn't work and when setting that refresh rate in windows just gives me a black screen and resets after 15 seconds (since you'd have to click apply settings). Instead of cvt there is also "CVT reduced blanking", do you know what that is for, what it does?

Hope you're familiar with and software

[heady turtle]

I haven't had an amd gpu in a while @odd siren might have a better idea tbh

[odd siren]

not sure what that is

guessing it may have something to do with the vblanks between screen refreshes but not sure

[velvet grail]

Should I even try it?

Only think I'd prefer not to get a black screen again because the process to get to safe mode is very annoying

[odd siren]

how many monitors do you have plugged in

[velvet grail]

One

[odd siren]

one at 165hz and it's not idle?

what do you have running

wallpaper engine?

[velvet grail]

Literally nothing

It's a new install

It's common for these GPUs to have high idle power consumption because of some particular refresh rates

[odd siren]

does hwinfo say what the usage is?

some things can trigger p states like for example gifs in discord

depending on the circumstances you might trigger the idle to pick up with certain low use tasks

[velvet grail]

Over 40w

[odd siren]

that's not actually that high tbh

ideal would be like, 25, 27-ish

[velvet grail]

Nope
There's nothing on this pc except for windows, drivers, and adrenalin

Hwinfo too

[velvet grail]

Nope, should be more like 10w

[odd siren]

40w doesn't sound that high at all

[velvet grail]

Yeah... It is high

I'll just give it a go and see if it solves

[odd siren]

what driver are you using

[velvet grail]

Latest one for 6950xt

And yes I tried different ones

My monitor still doesn't like CVT reduced blanking
I'll try another one

[odd siren]

the reso of your monitor is?

[velvet grail]

Fhd

[odd siren]

1080p???

no that ain't right at all

6950XT??

[velvet grail]

Here you go, set 122hz CVT (just a random one) and dropped to 6w

I already knew it because the normal 120hz does the same

[odd siren]

yeah it sounds like the idle power issue of radeon

[velvet grail]

Yeah, I told you

[odd siren]

try 144hz

sorry I thought this was 1440p or 4k

you have the vblank issue that radeon 7000 has

[velvet grail]

Is 6bit color a noticeable difference compared to 8bit?

[odd siren]

yes

stick to 8 bit

or 10 bit

[velvet grail]

Same 40+w

[odd siren]

what monitor is this?

[velvet grail]

Normally I have 8bit since there's no HDR, 6bit is the max you get with a custom refresh rate

[velvet grail]

Just a second

[odd siren]

lol ew

I would not do 6 bit

8 bit is bare minimum for decent colour

10 bit you get hdr

[velvet grail]

AOC 24g2spu/bk

Short is: 24G2S

[odd siren]

are you using displayport or hdmi

[velvet grail]

Dp

[odd siren]

try hdmi

if that doesn't work I'm gonna say it's the idle power bug

cos changing to 120hz fixes it like it does on those few radeon 7000 cards

[velvet grail]

One sec

[velvet grail]

Since on the previous win10 install I couldn't get adrenalin to install I could not set custom refresh rates so I had to stick with the one windows offers, 120hz was the one that actually dropped the power idle

[odd siren]

certain monitor edid's have power bug issues (and also in certain combos) on radeon, so you can get some unusual idle behaviour since you're not in the P0 (P0? idle p state) but P1

yes

lower hz fixes it

and this will sound weird but

you can run a higher resolution but the same hz

and have the same issues

irregardless

so it's a bug due to the vblank mismatch on radeon

this is why you get multi monitor high idle on most gpus btw, radeon 7000 was just one that had it a bit down bad at launch

my 3080 for example idled 200+W with several monitors

[velvet grail]

I know, I did a lot of research on this stuff since I don't like my GPU just spitting power and heat out like that

[odd siren]

in fairness tho, 40W is still fairly insignificant

[velvet grail]

Many people ge even 100w idle with a single display

get

[odd siren]

yea 100W I've seen before

lmk when you've tried hdmi

[velvet grail]

+40C idle I have to run the fans or whenever it goes up it ramps up the rpm and sounds awful

Even with custom curve

[odd siren]

heh

which 6950 is this?

[velvet grail]

I connected both hdmi and dp to my monitor, haven't switched the input (I'm on DP) but power has dropped already

7w

[velvet grail]

Xfx Merc 319 black

[odd siren]

yep it's the idle bug if you're running over 144

I would put money down on it

[odd siren]

ah yes the greatest amd cards but noisy af

<merc310 owner

[velvet grail]

It's noisy at 100% fan but it can keep itself cool while being slightly quiet

With cool I mean like 60C

~65

[odd siren]

so what hz are you running rn?

[velvet grail]

OOOh
It dropped to 60hz that's why

Tf

[odd siren]

ah

[velvet grail]

Let me set it back to 165

[odd siren]

swap over to hdmi

both will do 10bit 165 fhd

[velvet grail]

Haven't got 10bit anyways

[odd siren]

sounds familiar

this is idle bug stuff, I'm fairly sure

[velvet grail]

Let me remove dp

I'll just try hdmi

[odd siren]

ooo try this

I always have mine off

[velvet grail]

144hz over hdmi (that's all it supports, no 165) and still 40w

So the output is not the problem, it the refresh rate 100%

[odd siren]

ye

try turn off record desktop in adrenalin

[velvet grail]

Huh? What's that

Is that in windows?

Oh sorry

[odd siren]

it's basically like nvidia shadowplay

it's in adrenalin

[velvet grail]

Nah, that can't be since I had 40w even without ANY amd software installed

I'll give it a try anyways to prove

...and... I don't know where that setting is lol

[odd siren]

damn I'm on my laptop

my laptop doesn't have the setting LOL

it's under Re:live I'm sure

basically flashback recording

nvidia has it as well with shadowplay they're basically the same thing

[spare relic]

Flashback recording ground my PC to a halt back in the day

[hot bough]

Is 20w idle decent for a 3070 XC3 Ultra?

[odd siren]

yep

[velvet grail]

"StreamVR not installed"

[odd siren]

💀

[velvet grail]

They keep changing their software so it's always different

[odd siren]

oh that's the name

instant replay

under settings

my bad LOL

[velvet grail]

That's for Nvidia ig

[velvet grail]

I was looking at that post but the software hasn't got the general tab nor media section

[odd siren]

eh???

[velvet grail]

I can't find those the way it says on the post

[odd siren]

omg

my 6800h

it's so helpful

[velvet grail]

Same tab

[odd siren]

there's no recording tab at all??

[velvet grail]

When you open adrenalin there's streaming and recording

But I have to configure

[odd siren]

go there

[velvet grail]

Which probably means it's not set up

[odd siren]

I wish I was able to open it up on my other rig rn

I have a 6900xt

and an xtx but that one isn't in a system atm

[velvet grail]

Ok, let's ignore this part about the recording stuff, let's get back to refresh rate and res

[odd siren]

does your monitor have freesync?

[velvet grail]

Just clicked x and showed a new tab, record desktop is not active

[velvet grail]

Let me check

Only gsync

[odd siren]

same thing

is freesync enabled in adrenalin

[velvet grail]

Not supported it says

Should I switch back to dp now?

[odd siren]

you can if you want

wouldn't make a difference imo

[velvet grail]

Ok

[velvet grail]

Just the refresh rate

Dp is capable of 165

Hdmi is not on this monitor

[odd siren]

bleh

💀

I think you need a new monitor for that gpu lol

1080p is like, max 6700xt territory

run your current one as a secondary at 1080p

I'm willing to bet it's a idle power bug but I can't be 100% sure rn

40W isn't that bad tho

It's on the higher end of acceptable

[velvet grail]

Maybe it says not supported because it's off on the monitor settings

[odd siren]

ooo

try turn it on

[velvet grail]

Done, now adrenaline has the option for adaptive sync

[odd siren]

turn that on

[velvet grail]

Aaand down with the power usage

THANKS

7w

[odd siren]

Yay

that's the kicker

alr we got it

[velvet grail]

Why do things have to be so complicated AAAAAH

I didn't even think of that in the first place

[odd siren]

that's one of the common answers for monitor issues too is freesync

[velvet grail]

That's not even a solution they offer in Reddit posts or other posts in general

[odd siren]

makes things a LOT better

[velvet grail]

F i n a l l y

I almost dropped the plant I have on top of my pc

[odd siren]

lol

glad to help

[velvet grail]

Thanks again

I guess I can go and install all the bloat back now

[odd siren]

[velvet grail]

See you later
Or whenever we'll see again

Bye

Having a backup on a mechanical drive is the worst thing possible
So slooooow

[livid idol]

It could be worse... it could be a DVD

[spare relic]

You're a DVD

[livid idol]

Yes I'm very outdated and an old format. Thanks for the reminder that I'm one of the oldest regulars here.

[spare relic]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-big-chungus-anime-jojo-dvd-vhs-anime-gif-23649294

[livid idol]

Joke's on you, I'm old enough that I had a TV with a VHS player built in and I used it all the time.
Plus I can't store a PC backup on a VHS. Floppy, sure, if you have a few thousand lying around.

https://tenor.com/view/im-old-age-conan-o-brien-im-a-thousand-years-old-all-of-a-sudden-gif-16780717

[spare relic]

My parents got rid of the VHS TV when they got the 1366x768 hdtv

[viscid vault]

I've still got my disney vhs set, slowly bleeding their magnetic frames into the aether

Return to the earth whence thou camest

[fading glacier]

vhs, these kids.... i saw my first disney records on betamax

[velvet grail]

Next time I'll use a floppy

I have a 5.1GB floppy :)
That's plenty of space

[livid idol]

My mom still has our first HDTV. Good old 720i. I remember the cable guy being confused why it wouldn't set to 1080p lol.

[spare relic]

Lol

I still have that TV too

[livid idol]

They don't make them like they used to. Good luck getting a modern smart TV to live for 15 years.

[spare relic]

I wouldn't want to tbh

I hate smart TV's

[viscid vault]

Rip the smart part out

[spare relic]

Best way to do that is to prevent its installation

[viscid vault]

Or disable the wifi

Physically, with a hammer

[livid idol]

I put an ad blocker on my router and that worked pretty well

[viscid vault]

Hobble the wifi

[livid idol]

Oh and my TV has a physical microphone switch so it's not listening, I checked the wire

[viscid vault]

That's nice

[raven wharf]

ngl prob the highest power draw ive used on my 6700 so far lol

[normal hawk]

The GPU manufacturer optimizes drivers for the game, not the other way around. Hence why companies release "Game Ready Drivers"

Their support stating it doesn't meet the minimum spec requirements however is weird. But customer support is weird fairly often tbh. Will probably be another response eventually

Customer support works off scripts and the only thing they have for intel may be intel IGPU's.

So while customer support made a mistake, their liveops team probably saw the post and is working on it.

From my experience on liveops and in QA they aren't allowed to comment on it publicly if they are.

[livid idol]

There's a fair amount of optimizing of the game code that the devs have to do in order to properly use the hardware. It's hard to deny there's issues when neither the CPU nor GPU are being used more than 70%.

[normal hawk]

Its like the opposite issue of other 2023 PC releases in that end.

[brittle trench]

How do you search for a gpu and can it go into any motherboard?

[hot bough]

So long as the board and GPU both use PCIE then yes. Though make sure the board is using at least PCIE 3.0 for modern cards to minimize bottlenecks.

[brittle trench]

Noted

[normal hawk]

New NVIDIA Drivers to improve performance on Starfield

[oak rivet]

5% and it cuz of resizebar

[livid idol]

Something is better than nothing

[fading glacier]

ill laugh it hard when bethesda make the same movement as jedi survivor.... dlss support after like 7 patches xD

[raven wharf]

i refuse to believe this guys gpu videos

[fading glacier]

that channel is clickbait 200%

well known since ampere days

dont gift him your view

[raven wharf]

a 7950 XTX would go crazy tho

[fading glacier]

yeah as well as a 4090ti and 4090 super according to his videos and the crazy specs of the 5090

full of clickbait and total specualtion from his imagination

[spare relic]

this looks like pure cope

[fading glacier]

a rdna3 and 40 series refresh will not happen any time soon maybe never happen

thats a fact

nvidia gave up the gamer market, so no super or ti version, and with nvidia out of the race and amd already winning on all gaming tiers there is no incentive to do an rdna3 refresh

there is no race on the gamer gpu market anymore

[livid idol]

4090 ti was already canceled, which is weird considering the 4090 isn't even a fully activated die.

[fading glacier]

weird? nah... the ai market is where the real money is

jensen knows it

[livid idol]

Yeah but... it would cost them nothing significant to just flip a switch and enable the rest of the compute units on the die, which are already there

[fading glacier]

could cost a lot of money in a lot of areas, including marketing

like why bother?

[livid idol]

They've saved a lot of marketing money before by letting leakers handle it

Silent launches have happened before

[fading glacier]

probably they have it on the top secret plans if the ai amrket start to decline but by now, no need

[raven wharf]

can normal consumers not do that themselves

[fading glacier]

much like the miner days, those days we had a refresh of every gpu because that market was printing money

[livid idol]

No it's fused off at the factory

[fading glacier]

no

its hard locked

the additional cores are either turned off or completely dead

usually the latter

which was the last card where people was turning on cuda cores? cant rememeber

[livid idol]

There's lots of ways that they can physically disable things these days. Companies learned them after the whole "enable the 4th core on your phenom x3 processor" thing.

[fading glacier]

right it was a cpu

[livid idol]

Yeah you just needed a board with the enable feature, which was most consumer boards, then you toggle it on in bios. Sometimes the core really was garbage and couldn't run stock settings but most of the time you'd get a free extra core that ran perfectly fine.

Those were the good old days. I picked up PC gaming around that time, had a phenom II x4.

[fading glacier]

picked up pc gaming with my e5200, back in the ddr2 days as well xD

still have it in my drawers, someday i will make it a keychain

[raven wharf]

my eventual plan is to get an 7900 XTX, they'd announce a 7950 XTX after i get my 7900 XTX

thats my kind of luck

[fading glacier]

unlikely

however if you live with that fear you will end up with nothing at the end

what about waiting for the 7950xt but then they announce the 7970xtx and you wait now for that one and they announce later the 8000 series?

and so on

at some point you will need to make your choice and live with the aftermath of your choices

[raven wharf]

no way there will ever be a 7970 XTX though

[fading glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/8ball-bart-simpson-shaking-shake-magic-ball-gif-17725278

[raven wharf]

lmao

[fading glacier]

nobody expected a GRE version and here we are, so.... everything can happen in the future

unlikely i know xD but can happen 😛

much like the unlikely chance of super/ti refreshs on nvidia side

[raven wharf]

the GRE stuff ticked me off

GRE should of been 7800 XT or smth

[fading glacier]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[random walrus]

Not Nvidia but I think there was an amd card you could flash a vbios to that would basically make it a higher tier of card

Vega 56 maybe? Not sure though

[livid idol]

You can flash a 5700 into a 5700 XT, maybe that's what you're thinking of

[random walrus]

Looks like flashing vega64 vbios to a Vega 56 doesn't actually unlock cores but just gave a perf boost https://www.techpowerup.com/236632/amd-rx-vega-56-to-vega-64-bios-flash-no-unlocked-shaders-improved-performance

[livid idol]

Weird. I know the 5700 to XT did unlock the extra cores.

[livid idol]

IMO,
XTX should have been 7900 XT (why the extra x? It's pointless)
7900 XT should have been 7800 XT (it's like 15-20% lower perf, very worthy of a full tier drop)
GRE should have been 7800 GRE
7800 XT should have been 7700 XT
etc, etc. It's all at least one tier too high.

If we put up with the naming for this gen it's a slippery slope until AMD is only naming tiers by the number of X's.
12xtxxtxxtx

Which of course is a tier above the 12xtxxtxx

[rustic pulsar]

xtx is the Gram matrix

makes life very easy

[wicked hound]

less Quadro 6000 Ada dies

[wicked hound]

Soon generation name will be told by amt of Xs and tier will be told by amt of XTXs

8900XT = XXXXXXXXXTXXTXXTXXTXXTXXTXXTXXTXXTX

[viscid vault]

Just like usernames in 2004

XxxSephiroth_the_foxXxx

[random walrus]

Ah yes the classic xXnameXx_

[raven wharf]

xXGamerGod27Xx

[vital oriole]

GRE has always been an odd duck

So it's normal that things are odd

[odd siren]

https://youtu.be/J0jVvS6DtLE?si=B-V2yuV94DNKezvp

Tmw RT doesn't even have an advantage in a current gen suite

It's a dead heat in all resolutions

[vivid arch]

any news on if the latest drivers for the rx 5500x is okay with my games (cod, wd:l) without the black screen issues?

[keen nacelle]

It looks like there is going to be a 7600xt, just not on the same die as the 7600

Prob a very cut down 7700xt

12gb vram, id imagine it's somewhere around 6700xt-6750xt perf

If its cheaper than current 6700xt pricing that'd be very nice, would give us an actually recommendable gpu in the newer lineups for mid end

[heady turtle]

Seems unlikely the amount of 6700xts don't seem to be going down at all

[odd siren]

Either that or the 7700xt drops like a fruit fly in the next 3 weeks

[raven wharf]

If it does how much do you think

399 is what it should of launched at

[primal dust]

Stupid question, can a 1660 super handle 1080p 144hz on most games?

[hot bough]

Modern games included?

[primal dust]

I figure it might not do something like baldur’s gate 3?

[hot bough]

Modern games probably not. Older games on lowest settings it's a maybe. Realistically I'd say around 80-90fps.

On heavier games probably around 50-60 fps on lowish settings.

[primal dust]

Follow up, can a 6750xt do newer games at 1440 with decent frame rates?

[livid idol]

Depends on the game but it'll do a lot better than the 1660

Games that aren't crazy demanding or badly optimized like Hogwarts legacy or Starfield, sure it can probably do it

[oak rivet]

Decent frame rates needs come clarification

In something bland like csgo even 120 is not that great but something more ambitious like hogwarts over 30 is decent

[runic trail]

rtx 2060 or 5700xt for 150$

[odd siren]

5700xt 1000%

[hot bough]

5700xt

[odd siren]

That's not even a competition

5700xt is like, 50% faster

[runic trail]

thought so

anything better at that price point? (used)

[odd siren]

Not really

A cheaper 5700xt

5700xt ≈ 6600xt-ish performance

[runic trail]

lol

i love the market rn

its finally not baf

bad

[odd siren]

Which is about, 2060 super? 2070-ish

Depends on the model of nvidia

[hot bough]

In the pins it's 3060 perf.

[odd siren]

Yeah 3060 sounds about right too

[hot bough]

I keep debating if I want to sell my 3070 XC3 Ultra to help fund my next gpu upgrade.

[odd siren]

I mean yeah definitely

I would

Go with an igpu for like the couple days you're without a gpu

[hot bough]

Yeah I probably will.

Can probably sell it for $350-400 here in mexico.

[odd siren]

That's pretty good

[hot bough]

In mexico 3070s are around $500 new.

[odd siren]

Then when you go the china or, drop into the usa? (I can't remember what your plan was) pick up a cheap gpu

[hot bough]

Currently it seems I will be in Mexico for a while.

Might make some quick trips up to Florida here in there.

[odd siren]

Grab bits and bobs when you do

Not too much cos they might hit you up at the border for importing

And given what I know about MX customs, yeah you wanna avoid that

[hot bough]

xD, I travel through airports with over 120 pounds of tech.

Haven't been dinged yet.

[odd siren]

But when they ding

Riiipppp

[hot bough]

The trick seems to be covering it in a cardboard box and a $#!t ton of duct tape.

Yeah MX customs are a pain.

Biggest thing is food. They are dead serious about that.

[odd siren]

And medicine

I was shocked to see the restrictions

(and then the practice of said restrictions)

[hot bough]

I keep debating over getting the Aorus Master 4090 or the Palit 4090 with the crystal design since my end goal is to do a crystal themed pc.

[odd siren]

Ok definitely not the palit

Unfortunately the gamerock has sub-par vrm

[random walrus]

I dont think quite this much. Maybe in some titles

[odd siren]

It meets nvidia ref spec but it's like, minimum to the max

[hot bough]

Really?

[odd siren]

Iirc it's like about 6K time spy gpu versus about 9k

[hot bough]

Damn, I actually really started to like the design.

[odd siren]

Yeah the pcb breakdowns are on buildzoid's channel

Old school gamerock of ampere was way better

[random walrus]

huh. maybe there was a lot of perf gain once the drivers got fixed

[odd siren]

Then they went cheap

[odd siren]

Possibly? I wasn't there when rdna was out. Only what I know rn

[hot bough]

I see.

Any other cards with a crystal design by chance?

To bad Maxsun doesn't make 4090s, I really like their designs.

[odd siren]

You could do gamerock 3090?

Used one you'd probably find cheap

For a crystal theme you also have the trident royals of old and the cooler master crystal fans

[hot bough]

I have my mind set to the 4090 for a gpu but thanks for the fan suggestion will definitely check that out.

are the cooler master crystal fans good?

[odd siren]

Uh

I'm gonna say no

Idk how effective they are, but price to performance they're not gonna be good

[hot bough]

Holy $#!T they are expensive.

[odd siren]

They aren't cheap

Yeah

[hot bough]

$30/fan

[odd siren]

I mean crystal themes are rare

You're def cutting into a niche

[hot bough]

I'd be better off gluing real crystals on at that price.

True that.

If I had the money I'd build my pc inside a crystal geode.

[odd siren]

Yeah I been reading that

That's a hell of a project

💀

Idk custom custom is too heavy for me

I would go as far as hardline but no further

And for a daily I'd do air cooling nowadays

[hot bough]

xD did you see my idea of crystal tubes?

https://www.amazon.com/Asiahorse-Motherboard-Controller-Addressable-Hydraulic/dp/B08174WFGL/ref=sr_1_8?crid=X0AK6Z3GZBXS&keywords=crystal%2Bcase%2Bfan&qid=1694669888&sprefix=crystal%2Bcase%2Bfan%2Caps%2C99&sr=8-8&th=1
this seems more reasonable price wise.

[odd siren]

Oh yeahhh I forgot about those

Those work too

A lot more reasonable for sure

[hot bough]

I wonder if they come in black.

[odd siren]

I'd do white crystal if I did crystal

Royals come in silver

[hot bough]

then again there's also the option of just buying quartz crystals for dirt cheap and gluing them to my fans.

[odd siren]

You can also match the grey/silver of the gamerock

[hot bough]

I heard Trident Royals should be coming back for DDR5.

[odd siren]

I uh, I dunno how good at arts and crafts you are but that sounds complicated af

[odd siren]

They are but trident z5 isn't cheap

You could get used ddr4 royals dirt cheap

[hot bough]

I'd say I am decent.

It's be a matter of sanding down the base after cracking the crystals then gluing it on.

Really more just tedious at the end of the day.

[odd siren]

Yeah, also consistency

Idk, this is way beyond my station

I'd def avoid the palit 4090

Tho

[hot bough]

Anyways, I am gonna avoid white due to how it'd mess with the colors of the crystals but silver is a definite consideration.

[hot bough]

Gotcha.

[odd siren]

Buildzoid called it the worst of the lot, it has like half the vrm of similar 4090's in that price

And I agree with him

[hot bough]

What are the best 4090 models?

That doesn't cost upwards of two grand.

[odd siren]

Suprim

Just flat and simple

It has a unique look too it would kinda fit in a crystal theme, the air cooled one

You either buy the basic msrp 4090's like a trinity or pny imo

Or you spend the 150 *extra for 2nd or 3rd best pcb, and get a suprim

[hot bough]

Suprim is a tempting option as it has a nice silver shine to it.

[odd siren]

Surprim is binned, runs extremely quiet even at full fan, has an excellent heatsink design, MEMORY FOR THE RGB SO YOU DON'T NEED TO KEEP THE SOFTWARE TO CHANGE IT, fabulous thermals

Very great pcb choices

[hot bough]

Assuming it doesn't cost $2,306....

[odd siren]

Yeah 2300 is a bit high

I'm assuming 1750

Best of the best would be matrix or hof 4090

[hot bough]

I can pick up a refurbished 4090 aorus master from amazon for $1650

[odd siren]

Those are, rather extreme in price

[odd siren]

I'd do that

[hot bough]

Yeah to much for me.

[odd siren]

Aorus master is good

It's...weird but it's very good

Not the best pcb by a fair way but very good

[hot bough]

I like the look of it. And done right the shroud can be taken off to be modded right?

[hot bough]

really?

[odd siren]

Mhm

[odd siren]

I wouldn't replace the shroud

It's nice enough already

You could paint the shroud tho

Very easily

But you'd want to be wary of the rgb inserts in it

[hot bough]

I was talking about modding the shroud probably with crushed quartz of some type.

[odd siren]

Hmm not sure what you mean by that

Confusion

[hot bough]

Covering the outer area of the shroud in crushed quartz to give it a crystalline appearance.

just a thought.

[odd siren]

Oh

Yeah you could probably do that

If you were careful with the glue and were very thorough

Cos you don't want those falling off and ricocheting into the pcb

Via fan

[hot bough]

Yeah.

[odd siren]

That would be tragic

[hot bough]

I would use a thin coat and slowly cover it carefully and before reinstalling the shroud I'd power wash it after it's dried off and then use a vacuum or something as a extra precaution.

[odd siren]

Maybe a real thick glue layer and coat the crystals completely?

Power wash would strip everything

I wouldn't do that LOL

Especially with the rgb on the shroud

Vacuum would def help tho

Shop vac

[hot bough]

can't the shroud be taken off completely?

Or are the wires still connected?

[odd siren]

Can be

But the rgb is fixed

[hot bough]

Oh okay, so water isn't a option then.

[odd siren]

Ye

Well

No

But ye

[hot bough]

Definitely vacuum and extra coat of glue.

[odd siren]

If you left it to dry for a week or so, water is fine

But not power wash

Especially if water got trapped you'd want to wait a long time

[odd siren]

Idk it's food for thought, again, it's out of my station this stuff but

If you do it smart it could turn out quite good

Like maybe instead of crystal dust you do like, gold dust?

Gold dust might look sick on the suprim

[hot bough]

Interesting. My plan was to use a mix of crystals and create like a crystal cavern type look with the tower 900.

[odd siren]

Oh I meant just for the gpu

If you did it for a whole build I'd do like

Trident royal, meg ace

Suprim

Maybe liquid in fact

B12 fans

Uhh, not sure of the case

Any decent psu with custom cablemod cables

Gold grey black colour

[hot bough]

I'd probably do the air version of the suprim since if I do liquid on a gpu I'd do custom cooling.

Definitely on the trident royal.

[odd siren]

Honestly the suprim is very solid on both water and air

Let me give you some context

I recently did a 3090 loop with a guy on my old tuf

12600k+3090 on one 360 rad

[hot bough]

Not sure what to do for mobo though. Would have to find one that won't be a total nightmare to put crystals on.

[odd siren]

Wanna know the temps?

[hot bough]

sure.

[odd siren]

45 and 50 full load

One thin 360 rad for both

Standard 360 rad

The surpim liquid is honestly fine on it's 240 rad

[hot bough]

I see.

[odd siren]

It's just food for thought depending on the case you have

But for gold theme build, meg ace is practically the motherboard

Very expensive tho

[hot bough]

Agreed.

[odd siren]

They can look really good in like, fractal north for example

In black

[hot bough]

I'd imagine.

[odd siren]

See if I can find the reference build I'm thinking of

I think it was gear seekers?

https://youtu.be/vWtPDCCkHko?si=X8PyqMgtHBq55Tdd?t=655s

I can't tell if timestamps are broken, 8:20 is the section

[hot bough]

it seems someone has attempted a basic version of what I am trying to accomplish.

[odd siren]

Good lord

[hot bough]

In my case I'd use real crystals where scientifically and physically possible and do a cleaner job.

[odd siren]

Sorry wrong time

8 minutes 20

[hot bough]

That's cool.

Also why didn't I think of this.

SL-Infinity fans with a crystal mod.

[odd siren]

Maybe?

[hot bough]

The light I'd imagine would bounce off the crystals like crazy.

[odd siren]

Tbh it would yeah

Very expensive tho

[hot bough]

......

At this point it's also my way of giving me a excuse to buy sl-infinities.

[odd siren]

Unifan tax lol

[hot bough]

I hate the cables from P12s.

Like absolutely hate it.

[odd siren]

Eh it's not that bad

They should be hidden no?

[hot bough]

Way to short for the fractal torrent.

[odd siren]

Oh fair

But I mean

It's the biggest case ever

[hot bough]

I know.

But it's a nightmare.

[odd siren]

You can get extensions

[hot bough]

Especially when you gotta deal with 9 of them.

[odd siren]

Or a hub even may help

Like the masterfan argb fan hub

[hot bough]

Yeah maybe.

In anycase, I will buy either the 4090 Suprim (Air) or Aorus Master depending on price.

[odd siren]

Between the two? 1650 for the master

Master is great

[hot bough]

fan wise the SL-Infinities are quite tempting for the sheer QOL features.

[odd siren]

In fact

Master in the torrent would fit well

Your original plan

Most people when they see a flashy pc are like "woooowww" even with the more normal stuff

[hot bough]

Will probably get the Master if the renewed ones are still available when I buy.

[hot bough]

xD yep.

[odd siren]

Anyway I gotta go lad 👋

[hot bough]

It's always fun seeing my friends faces when they see my Fractal Torrent.

It was fun chatting with ya.

Have a good day.

[odd siren]

No worries

[young crystal]

the powerful urge to get the lian li infinites bc every single north build i see has them and they look so fire

[hot bough]

Seems I am probably gonna make a trip into the US soon and Texas has cheap flights so micro center would be a available option once I go buy my parts in about a month.

[livid idol]

That game is pretty easy to run, what settings, fps, and resolution are you targeting?

[fading glacier]

doom can run even on integrated graphics xD

[livid idol]

Maybe AMD ones, Intel is still a bit lacking

Ah. Are you referring to DOOM Classic?

The assumption these days is DOOM Eternal.

[forest oasis]

you using legacy hardware?

[fading glacier]

he is either trolling or trolling xD

[livid idol]

Is that the monitor that has a VGA connector? Because lots of those Atari ones have only the Atari specific connector.

[fading glacier]

doom and doom2 can literally run on anything built in the last 20 years

[livid idol]

Yes but also no. If you want the full retro experience you need a period correct card.

Modern ones can have bugs like frame rate too high causing the game to accelerate

[fading glacier]

heck i was so young back then, the only thing i remember from back then was running that on a 486

or was it a 386?

[raven wharf]

crazy how they increased the price again

[fading glacier]

crazy? thats kinda usual

[hot bough]

Do vertical GPU mounts hook up to the horizontal piece or do I need another part for that?

[fading glacier]

sellers, stock, there is a lot of factors

[fading glacier]

no, they mount on the case, your case is the factor there

[hot bough]

Fractal Torrent.

[fading glacier]

i see no problem

that case is able to mount a vertical bracket without issues

[hot bough]

Oh so I don't need to buy Fractal's Flex B-20?

[raven wharf]

legit have only cared about the pc market since like august so

everythings new to me

[fading glacier]

flex b-20 is a whole kit to mount on that case

[raven wharf]

[fading glacier]

a kit composed of the bracket and the riser cable, most of the vertical mount brackets have those 2 parts

[hot bough]

Gotcha.

[livid idol]

As long as you get the riser kit that doesn't sit on the bottom of the case, and is only attached at the PCIe slot then the riser should fit fine with the bottom fans on

[hot bough]

Gotcha.

[fading glacier]

yeah the torrent is kinda picky on the brackets that fit

its a beautiful yet unconventional case 😛

[hot bough]

Agreed.

[odd siren]

cooler master v3 vertical mount >>>>>>

[fading glacier]

toobig for my liking, i prefer the torrent mini

ezdiy are pretty, had the one you recommended to me felix 😛

[hot bough]

What is the name of the extensions I need for argb cables same goes for power cables.

Mine are way to short.

[odd siren]

oh yea them's nice too

[fading glacier]

yeah this is the problem i usually have with big cases, cables end way too short

[hot bough]

My cables can barely reach....

[raven wharf]

hows your 5090 treating you

[fading glacier]

thats why i prefer the torrent mini

[hot bough]

Room heater.

World's best.

[livid idol]

No central heating needed for the winter

[hot bough]

Anyways I am gonna pickup a 4090 in a couple weeks assuming work goes well.

[fading glacier]

yeah thats was your original plan since last year or so

hope this time you will be able to fulfill it

[hot bough]

Yeah it's been a rough ride.

[fading glacier]

a 4090 and a 13900ks iirc

[hot bough]

Mother was hospitalized, I got a slipped disc, moving homes, and a whole list of things.

[fading glacier]

you sure you need it? i mean, looks like a lot of thing are more important to you right now than some gaming commodities

forget what i said, its your money after all

[hot bough]

Nah I get what you mean.

Things are finally stabilizing a bit so all goes well I can afford it otherwise I will hold off.

I won't spend money I can't afford to.

But yeah I found a 4090 Aorus Renewed on Amazon for 1650 so my plan is to get that if all goes to plan finally and maybe the 27G1V 4k@155hz monitor from Innocn at $399.

[fading glacier]

dang

27" 4k monitor, that should look dope

[vital oriole]

an innocn monitor was reviewed by rtings

[hot bough]

I know the size is a bit small though it's the cheapest I could find plus it'll be good for travelling and when zooming in to do finer details in art and texturing.

[vital oriole]

it received good scores

[hot bough]

The reviews are really good on Amazon as well.

[vital oriole]

so i don't think you will end up with something bad

as long as you don't get va that is

it's not good to assume but, va is usually bad

or worse to ips

[hot bough]

Lemme double check.

I think it's IPS.

https://monitornerds.com/innocn-27g1v-review/?amp=1

Says it's IPS

[vital oriole]

should be decent then

[hot bough]

Looked on Innocn's official site just now.

It says the monitor is 250 nits.

Isn't that very low?

[random walrus]

For indoor usage that's fine

[hot bough]

Okay. Yeah will probably pick up that monitor then.

[vital oriole]

250 nits is average for monitors lol

[hot bough]

Also considering selling my 3070 to help fund the upgrade. Besides eBay any other places you guys recommend I try to sell it?

[vital oriole]

especially budget ones

fb marketplace

[random walrus]

My monitor is 250 and I have the brightness turned down to like 50-60%

[hot bough]

Oh okay.

[random walrus]

r/hardwareswap

[odd siren]

Ye 250 is perfectly fine

[vital oriole]

250 nits is ok for indoor, even with my usage where i sit right on front of a window

my laptop could do 250 nits

and i have it on like 65-70%

[hot bough]

I see. Won't worry about the brightness then.

[odd siren]

If you're after proper hdr tho aim for a panel with like, 600 or more

[vital oriole]

^

[hot bough]

Don't have the budget for that type of a monitor.

In the future will probably do that though.

Well I gotta go. It's been fun talking to you lads.

[burnt parcel]

i have a zotac 3080 amp holo that will randomly black screen but pc is still on and running stuff. how much do you think i can sell it for on ebay?

still have the box and everything

[hot bough]

Personally I'd do around $300 since it's a partly defective product.

[burnt parcel]

thats what i was thinking as well

thanks

[livid idol]

There's lots of comparable "for parts" 3080s for sale at $200 on ebay

[burnt parcel]

the thing is, i feel like someone could easily fix mine, im just not smart enough to do so

so idk if i should really consider it just "for parts"

[odd siren]

Do you have a support brace for the card?

Try prop it up if you haven't already and it's not vertical mounted

It might fix the black screening if it's physically damaged

[burnt parcel]

ive already upgraded to a 4070ti due to the issue. I tried pretty much everything that didnt involve messing with the parts of the card itself. no one here could fix it either

[odd siren]

Ah ok

[burnt parcel]

yeah it was like the graphics driver was crashing or something. i could hear my friends talking and the game still going whenever it would black screen

[odd siren]

Doesn't happen anymore on the 4070ti?

[burnt parcel]

nope

so def the card

[odd siren]

Do you use a riser cable?

[burnt parcel]

i ran video tests using occt to really confirm it was the gpu

[odd siren]

Ah ok, errors?

[burnt parcel]

nope

[odd siren]

[burnt parcel]

let me see if i still have the log

i do lol

[odd siren]

^?

[burnt parcel]

i dont think so, im not really sure what that is so probably not

[odd siren]

Ah ok, you use it for vertical mounting

[burnt parcel]

nah didnt do that

[odd siren]

Hmm it probably is something then with the card ye

Like a failing vrm or dying vram chip

[burnt parcel]

yeah

right when the warranty expired

thats how they get ya

[odd siren]

You'd list that as "for parts" my guy

[burnt parcel]

pain

[odd siren]

Or send it to someone who could fix it

And then flip for the proper price

[burnt parcel]

i dont think i have any local places that could fix it

[odd siren]

That does sound like it's probably not a bad repair but I'm not a technician

[burnt parcel]

yeah

[odd siren]

So maybe 100-150 for repair, then sell for 550?

It might be worth the time, if it's simple enough anyway

Food for thought

[burnt parcel]

yeah, if i can find anywhere to fix it lol

[odd siren]

Hell yeah

Worth a few phone calls at least

[burnt parcel]

yeah ill give that a try

rip

[odd siren]

Since it's out of warranty there's no harm in opening it up anyway

[burnt parcel]

right\

[odd siren]

You'd want to do that to give it fresh paste and a clean to make it look sharp maybe too

Idk, things I would do lolol

[burnt parcel]

thing looks brand new still, have the box and everything still

only in use for 2 years

pc was turned off when i wasnt using it

didnt do anything crazy on it so im not even sure how it died

[odd siren]

Yeah selling with the box and equipment will help it sell

[burnt parcel]

i even undervolted it to try and make it last

[odd siren]

Ampere has an issue, ada too (30 series/40 series)

Gpu sag can kill it

[burnt parcel]

probably what did it honestly

[odd siren]

They put vram chips near the slot

[burnt parcel]

my new card has something holding it up

[odd siren]

And those under sag go through extreme bending

(or significant anyway)

Hence why I asked if you'd propped it up lol

Not your fault

Just long-term defect nvidia didn't correct

[burnt parcel]

makes sense

[odd siren]

40 series will suffer from the same problem, so I'd encourage you to get an anti-sag bracket/prop

[burnt parcel]

yeah my card came with a little prop for it this time

[odd siren]

Sweet

[burnt parcel]

works like a charm

[odd siren]

It's apparently a really bad issue with 3090's

[burnt parcel]

those things are huge so it makes sense

[odd siren]

Never had it with mine, thankfully I treated my card like gold lol

Anyway try calling a few pc stores and maybe even pc technicians for a possible quote

[burnt parcel]

yeah ill def give it a try

[odd siren]

I'd say if the repair is anywhere near 100-ish with labour *included it'll be worth your time

[burnt parcel]

sounds good, i have one more question for ya

[odd siren]

Go for it

[burnt parcel]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ACTPlays/saved/#view=dQXFZL

so this is my current build

if i wanted to go 7800x3D what would i need to change

[odd siren]

Ram, mobo, cpu

[livid idol]

CPU, motherboard, and RAM. And you'd neeed to get the AM5 bracket for your cooler.

[odd siren]

I'd do

7800x3d for, 399?

[burnt parcel]

yeah thats the price

[odd siren]

Msi x670-p for 150 from B&H

And 32gb vulcan 5600 CL32

Or...64gb in a similar CL

[burnt parcel]

id probably get a different cooler if i did upgrade

[odd siren]

Nah use the cooler

Fuma 2 is fine for AM5

[burnt parcel]

you dont think i should get an aio?

[odd siren]

All AM4 works on AM5

Nah man

7800x3d works on the stock cooler at full power

[burnt parcel]

w amd

[livid idol]

7800X3D is cooler than your 5800X by a lot

[odd siren]

It's already gonna be super cold on the fuma 2 lmao

[burnt parcel]

oh wow

[odd siren]

Get yourself also

$5 arctic mx-6

4g tube

Good for switching to the new cpu

[burnt parcel]

yeah thanks for recommending that because i would have forgot to buy more lol

[odd siren]

Hopefully the x670-p has enough m.2 slots

You have a lot of storage there lolol

[livid idol]

Eh, there's expansion cards

[burnt parcel]

just 2 m.2s and a ssd and a hdd

[odd siren]

To the point where, you would probably overspend for extra m.2 slots

[burnt parcel]

should be fine

[odd siren]

Lol

Oh 2 m.2?

Oh then you're fine

[burnt parcel]

right

[odd siren]

Sorry I thought it was like 3 or 4

[burnt parcel]

lol

[odd siren]

One sec I'll make you a list

[burnt parcel]

if i wanted more m.2 slots id probably get ones of those extender thingies that go into a pcie slot

[livid idol]

B650 should be fine, hell even A620 would be.

[burnt parcel]

w

my poor wallet

gotta sell these parts somehow lol

[odd siren]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HYpskJ for 64gb
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wwMNqR for 32gb

Yeah if the mobo is more than 150 don't get it

[livid idol]

You could sell the cpu, board, and memory for $350

[odd siren]

You don't need excessive spending on a mobo on AM5

[burnt parcel]

very nice

i wonder if my dad would buy it from me, hes been wanting to build a pc lol

[odd siren]

This would be what I'd do instead if that x670 doesn't sell for 150
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/T4n9TW/asus-tuf-gaming-a620m-plus-wifi-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-tuf-gaming-a620m-plus-wifi
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kvWJ7P/asrock-a620m-pro-rs-wifi-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-a620m-pro-rs-wifi

[burnt parcel]

gotcha

[livid idol]

I'd feel bad selling it to family like that personally, since there's equal performance parts you can find for cheaper

[burnt parcel]

really?

my dad doesnt really want gaming, he wants to do photo and video editing and AI stuff on it

[livid idol]

5700X and A520 go for a lot cheaper than what you have and there would be no difference in performance

[odd siren]

Yeah you'd sell him those two for like, 200

Then ram for maybe 100?

80?

Idk depends how much you want to be nice lmao

Free is also an option

[burnt parcel]

[fading glacier]

yeah kinda weird to sell your old pc to your father... like....

been thinking a good way to put it but there is none

you should build a pc for your father free of charge man, at least that how we handle things on my turf 😛

but you do you

to me, selling things like that is only viable up to brothers and sisters xD but mom and dad.... naaaah they deserve everything for free from us.... well i digress

[oak rivet]

Chad behaviour

[prisma yoke]

Is the 4070 ti a good value these days?

[odd siren]

It's...a bit meh

I think it can drop a bit lower than 800 but nvidia is starving supply so that ain't happenin

I'd take a 6950xt over a 4070 ti

7900xt...kinda the same deal cos I've seen it for the same price

[prisma yoke]

Oh ok, saw some eBay listings for $500 ish but upon further investigation, looks a bit sus

[odd siren]

Yeah that would be a bit sus lol

500 I would do a used 3080 12gb, 3080ti or new 6800xt

Have to be careful these days for legit deals tho

[prisma yoke]

Why not 4000 series? Nvidia is familiar to me, and I’m wanting to get newer stuff. Is the value just not there in your opinion?

[odd siren]

Pretty much

They're artificially inflating the price

It's for arguably most of them anyway

[livid idol]

Nvidia's main advantage is in Ray tracing, which doesn't matter much and especially not on mid tier and lower GPUs

[odd siren]

It's barely even ray tracing now

[prisma yoke]

Yea don’t really care about ray tracing

[odd siren]

Newer aaa suites are showing amd keeps getting closer and closer

And 40 series really stagnated the perf gains to the market

Like, frame gen?? But that's hit or miss entirely

@livid idol this should speak volumes

It's like, in the range of 10% or so now

[prisma yoke]

Crossfire no longer a thing? Lol

[odd siren]

Nah man

Died with rdna 2 sadly

[prisma yoke]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/xfx-speedster-merc319-amd-radeon-rx-6800-xt-core-16gb-gddr6-pci-express-4-0-gaming-graphics-card-black/6453268.p?skuId=6453268

[heady turtle]

This ones cheaper
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/R4tKHx/powercolor-radeon-rx-6800-xt-16-gb-red-dragon-oc-video-card-axrx-6800xt-16gbd6-3dhroc

Just as good

[burnt parcel]

You have no idea how cool that would be if I could. I just don't have that kind of money. I'm only 19 years but I have a stable job making decent money but not upgrade my PC and build my dad a new PC money.

I don't even think I can upgrade my own pc

[forest oasis]

How dare they

I've never used it but how dare they

[dawn onyx]

What's the best bang for buck option for egpus for 1080p? Most likely for 60 or 120hz

Both for enclosure and gpu or combo setup

[fading glacier]

6600xt

is more than enough for 1080p at that refresh on ultra in most games, best bang for your buck

anything less is used market territory under 150, and anything more is overkill for your requirements

[wind sable]

6700xt is also good

[fading glacier]

overkill for 1080p 120hz

6600xt best bang for buck at those requirements

[wind sable]

I got it for 200 used so I think it’s alright

[fading glacier]

well, used yes, i was talking brand new, on used you can get the 6600xt at 150 or less as well xD

[hot bough]

I might sell my 3070 to a friend. What would be a fair price?

Works perfectly, only thing is that the mounting bracket has a small bit of damage.

[keen nacelle]

I'd say from $225-$300

Depends how much you like your friend lol, and the model

[random walrus]

This @dawn onyx
https://www.newegg.com/msi-rx-6650-xt-mech-2x-8g-oc/p/N82E16814137737?Item=N82E16814137737&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-14-137-737-_-09162023
Or, if length is important this is only 200mm
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/z9H7YJ/powercolor-fighter-radeon-rx-6650-xt-8-gb-video-card-axrx-6650xt-8gbd6-3dh
Edit: or wait for 7600 prices to drop

[heady turtle]

for only 1080p 120hz, you're probably better off just getting a good gaming laptop since enclosures are like 200$ at least and then a good gpu is gonna be another 200$ ish

So like unless you already have a laptop with thunderbolt or usb 4( needs to be a usb 4 model) (usually only on high end laptops anyway) you'd probably be better getting a gaming laptop

[dawn onyx]

It'll be for a Win mini with occulink and usb 4 🙂

[heady turtle]

Ah okay then I'd get 6600xt/6650xt/7600 whichever is cheaper

[dawn onyx]

A friend of mine was going to give me a setup with a 2070 8gb for 400, that's basically about the same territory yeah? Includes an... enclosure

(Its an open air one)

[fading glacier]

400 for a 2070 plus enclosure? ani, you are breaking my heart!

im with pato, 6600xt/6650xt/7600 the cheapest of those

[dawn onyx]

It also comes with the 550w psu too

[fading glacier]

should be, thats part of the enclosure

[dawn onyx]

Not necessarily - some of the new enclosures are byopsu

[fading glacier]

you beat me on that one, still 400 for that is way too high

[dawn onyx]

But as far as I can see most other enclosures work out to be about the same price unless you know better

The one exception I could find is the one dock with a 6600xt may be a bit cheaper

The one other pro for a one dock would be occulink if I wanted to use that, but that adds another cable so I'm on the fence there even if Im losing some performance via USB 4

[dawn onyx]

Only thing I'm seeing that may possibly be less is this;
https://www.ebay.com/itm/364281421212?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=364281421212&targetid=1530439032131&device=m&mktype=pla&googleloc=9029600&poi=&campaignid=19851828444&mkgroupid=145880009014&rlsatarget=aud-1480434322028:pla-1530439032131&abcId=9307249&merchantid=423909413&gclid=CjwKCAjwpJWoBhA8EiwAHZFzfos74RMltPyLtYJ9-Ab9jKvVrWgQz-xpJXrXCWgkMTOaM94kHjhkWRoCKWAQAvD_BwE

Which I suppose I do have a psu lying around

Yeah not finding anything cheaper than 400 for a whole kit really - without sacrificing a lot of power

[random walrus]

Could do this, would total 430 after 6650xt which is a bit better than a 2070
https://www.ebay.com/itm/394874785510

[random walrus]

Or this
https://www.ebay.com/itm/166114161310

Or get a "bare" dock/pcie card and fit everything into this case
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CKNOVN2?

[dawn onyx]

Think it's worth the extra money? I don't plan on outputting to a higher res screen since I already have a gaming pc. This is literally just going to be used for the win mini in handheld mode

[random walrus]

If you do that one its 180+220=400 total

[dawn onyx]

You think it'd be better to order now with that deal or wait til closer to nov/Dec when the device itself ships

[random walrus]

I don't think that's any crazy deal so probably wait. You also might be able to get a cheaper 7600 if you wait

[raven wharf]

what a beast of a cooler damn

[lone pond]

Hello all

[keen nacelle]

hello

[lone pond]

Been a while but I came to ask if I should buy the rtx 4070 at $549.99? I'll be using my PC for 3D modeling & rendering as well as 1440p gaming.

I've heard that the 7800XT is a -$100 less than the 4070 & performs a lot better on the gaming side as well as having 16gb vram & 256 bit width. I'll be using Blender & UE 5 as well as playing multiplayer, shooter, open world & rpg games.

Does anyone have either of these cards & know if they work well, do they have bugs or are they worth the price.?

I know NVIDIA usually works much better with programs such as Unity, UE & Blender but I hear that the more VRAM you have is also better while using them.

[hot bough]

It's a XC3 Ultra. Temps are fine.

[hot bough]

If you use Blender don't even consider AMD.

A 7900XTX performs worse then a 3070 in Blender.

[young crystal]

cries in team red

[hot bough]

If you use productivity apps that are gpu intensive Nvidia is pretty much the go to option.

[young crystal]

Yeah, they’re better in literally every way

[mental garnet]

Need help finding a GPU that is better than my GTX 1080 without breaking the bank.

Heard user benchmark isn't the site to use anymore

[vital oriole]

what's your budget and current system specs?

"without breaking the bank" is relative, so i'd like to see solid numbers

[keen nacelle]

^

Mainly what cpu and psu do you have

Also do you have an ssd

[vital oriole]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/c3RYcf/powercolor-fighter-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12-gb-video-card-axrx-6700xt-12gbd6-3dh

this is assuming you're willing to spend around $320

and have adequate psu

just 550w and above should be enough, if it's a good unit and your cpu isn't hungry

it's solidly better than 1080, matches 3060ti

[mental garnet]

Current system is GTX 1080, 16gb ram, and ryzen 9 5900X, don't remember the MB

[vital oriole]

3060ti is 2080 super

[mental garnet]

Don't remember the PSU and I'm not home to check

[vital oriole]

hm, well either way this gpu will certainly work with most systems

[mental garnet]

Yeah around 300 is my mark

Cuz I can't hardly run stsrfield

Even though other games of this year and detail run fine

[vital oriole]

6700xt should be okay with it

not gonna max it out but it will be playable

[mental garnet]

Love when these AAA devs don't know how to optimize games

Yeah I'm running at unstable 25 fps on all low settings 90% scale, no sharpening

Never have I had that happen

[vital oriole]

oof

[mental garnet]

Can't get optimizing mods to work either

[vital oriole]

yeeah

im never gonna plan on running that on my 4050 laptop lmao

it performs just like 1080 desktop

[mental garnet]

But I can run cyber punk 2077 on all high with max crowds

[vital oriole]

6700xt is a lot better

so you shouldn't need res scaling

or lowest settings

[mental garnet]

At least I can run crysis

[keen nacelle]

Yeah ping one of us with your psu model and wattage when you're able to check

But odds are it'll be fine

[vital oriole]

averages over 60 fps on medium 1080p

that's pretty healthy increase

[mental garnet]

Time to check new egg order history

[vital oriole]

i guess you could get 6700 for $279

but imo

i'd pay 319 for the xt

it'll be better in the long run