graphics-cards

[oak rivet]

soo hence if no aibs we will have no gpus

[vital oriole]

yeah of course, and i've just said that if they're gonna do that

they definitely will expand the scope of fe availability

it's not a hard task since there's galax

[livid idol]

There's always MTT

[vital oriole]

MTT

running a game on it is a miracle

[livid idol]

No DX12, 10, or 9

Only 11

[vital oriole]

wow

[oak rivet]

also like 250w for gt 1030 perf

[fading glacier]

have faith in celestial young padawan

[livid idol]

That's at least, what, 5 years away from a laptop only launch again?

Seeing as Battlemage is delayed AGAIN

Maybe it'll be out in 2025

[fringe scroll]

L

[livid idol]

Yep this is about what we figured
https://youtu.be/2_Y3E631ro8

[oak rivet]

glad more gameplay then graphs this time it was needed for this specific gpu

[oak rivet]

ik the price is bad but the 8gb card is still getting brutally murdered

[naive bane]

‏hello i need help for switching thermal pads for gpu, 2080ti, 3080 vision oc can you please give me the measurements so i can buy from amazon because i really don't understand in this manner thank you

Will 8g of thermal paste will be sufficient for both of these?

[fringe scroll]

8g will get u quite a few applications

[lone pond]

the pads on the front side of the 3080 pcb should be 2mm, I'm not sure if the back side has pads connecting to the backplate tho. if it does, they're also probably 2mm, but be sure to check that they appear to be the same thickness as the ones on the front before applying 2mm pads

and what AIB model is the 2080 ti?

also yeah, 8 grams of paste is a lot. it'll be more than enough to service your cards until they finally decide to die in a decade

[naive bane]

Whats aib

Its asus rog strix o11g 2080ti

And 3080 oc vision gigabyte

[flat maple]

I wouldnt want to void my warranty but I could solder on some additional vram onto my evga 3080 card

ive seen someone else do it

[lone pond]

you could, but you'd need a modded bios to make it boot, and drivers won't play well with it. also you'd 1000% be voiding your warranty lol

[flat maple]

like I said

[lone pond]

should be 1.5mm for the strix 2080 ti

[livid idol]

Just means the 6700 XT is that much better of a deal at $330, considering even the VRAM hungry games they tested stayed under 12GB and it has near identical performance.

[heady turtle]

Also why would you play Ulta rt on a mid level gpu

[livid idol]

Oh but see if you use DLSS 3.0 performance setting with frame gen on you can get back up to half the native fps

[oak rivet]

The fps is over 60

Why wouldn't I

[livid idol]

Except in that screenshot, it's not

[oak rivet]

Also medium settings are gonna get more heavier lol

Unless you want games to stagnate

[livid idol]

You did pick one of the worst examples out of that vid is what pato is pointing out

[oak rivet]

Like 8gb since 1070 and that was like a 400$ card

[oak rivet]

Oh it's over 100 here

[livid idol]

Maybe this would be a better example, no RT just 1080p ultra

[keen nacelle]

You could also kill the card and then not have a warranty

[oak rivet]

Also with the 4060ti 16g you have tons of versatility you can do locked 30 if you want to

It's not a good card but it shows the weakness of a 400$ 8gb card which is absurd

[livid idol]

I like what they said in the conclusion, it's a great card for future content to show the scaling between 8GB and 16GB

[oak rivet]

It definitely gonna be another 580 4gb vs 8gb type situation

The 4gb is not doing soo great is it now

[livid idol]

I loved when I got a 1060 3GB and it was outdated within 6 months. Couldn't do 1080p medium in fallout 4 without missing textures.

[lone pond]

garfield are you /j or /srs

[livid idol]

Garfield?

[lone pond]

meme reference

[flat maple]

indeed

its too bad vram isnt something you can just upgrade

I forget the exact reason why that is

[livid idol]

The vbios has to match the hardware configuration exactly

Plus the memory bus can only handle so many chips

[lone pond]

^

[warm belfry]

Which card should I get with a budget of 1200 and have 5800x3d as my cpu and plan to do vr in the future

[fringe scroll]

For just the gpu?

If so 7900xtx or 4080 lol

Maybe used 4090 but all of these are insanely overkill haha

[livid idol]

5800X3D can't really keep up with a 4090 anyway

XTX, maybe at 4k it would but 1440p would be game dependent

[fading glacier]

used 40 series? thats a thing already?

[fading glacier]

7900xtx hands down

[fringe scroll]

People that impulse/ego bought and quickly relized they can't afford it 💀

[livid idol]

Only a slight discount but hey they're below msrp https://www.ebay.com/itm/185920294676

[oak rivet]

it does good enough to the point i would use it with the 4090 if i already had am4

many people did day one 4090 benchmarks with the 5800x3d even at 1440p it shows the separation between 4080 and 90

[oak rivet]

i would say go for the cheapest 4080 should be like 1100$

[livid idol]

Even though the XTX beats it for less money?

The nvidia features might be worth it to some but even ray tracing isn't a good reason any more

[oak rivet]

Not rt just overall its a better product we are also talking highend pricing for both

In some countries 80w vs 200w of the xtx in light load workloads will go a long way

[livid idol]

Sure, if you're in germany running your pc at 100% load 24/7 you might save 100 euros a year getting the 4080 instead

Define what you mean by an overall better product

Remember, I'm a numbers guy

[oak rivet]

well a xtx owner is constantly raving how broken it is in vr where apparently rdna2 does better,no reflex which really is a game changer in gpu limited game like dying light 2,people usually value premium dlss 2 at over 50$ compared to a card which does not have

better rt and frame gen being just mere bonuses

and anti lag is not reflex its similar to the low latency thing in nvcp

[livid idol]

All of those fall into the "features that are worth it to some" category.
I did miss in their original question that they do plan for VR in the future, that could be worth it depending on the headset they get.

[oak rivet]

if value is really the deal breaker get a 6950xt

a bit more peace of mind with that card

https://youtu.be/HznATcpWldo @livid idol did you watch this

[livid idol]

No I don't usually watch that channel. What's the gist of it?

Too clickbait-y for me, I don't respect channels that do that

[oak rivet]

Gist really is how the xtx needs like double or sometimes triple the power to do the same thing it's counterpart does

[livid idol]

In specific scenarios where nvidia is able to use cuda against amd doing raw compute?

[oak rivet]

No just general fps capped gaming or cpu limited games

[livid idol]

Ok? So specific scenarios

Yeah nvidia has better efficiency, but it's not as crucial as you're making it out to be and the savings in power takes several years to account for the cost difference of about $300

[oak rivet]

well it usually is a lot closer in price but around 100$ difference 4080 still wins

[livid idol]

Currently the difference between the lowest price model of each is $170

I've seen the xtx get down to $850

[odd siren]

Iirc the XTX has been as low as $830

And frankly RT isn't that bad on it, not to mention the latest driver was supposed to fix vr frametime pacing (I haven't tried it yet)

[odd siren]

XTX is good for this but remember the caveat that it has had some vr issues in certain games in it's earlier days. It's supposed to be fixed now though

7900 XT/7900 XTX is as high as I would go with that cpu, assuming 1440p or 4K

[fading glacier]

as falcie said, when you buy one of those high end cards power savings is irrelevant, and you need to run it 24/7 to save some pennies a year to make it "worth" just as falcie said (again) (im quoting you too much ma friend)

[vital oriole]

not like you run pc full load 24/7 anyway

unless you mine which is irrelevant now

[young crystal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CCJp99/asrock-challenger-d-oc-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12-gb-video-card-rx6700xt-cld-12go

is there anything better than this for less than 400

[keen nacelle]

This is $400 after a $50 gift card, so more like $450 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Hg92FT/xfx-radeon-rx-6800-16-gb-speedster-swft-319-video-card-rx-68xlaqfd9

Otherwise https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bfLFf7/msi-gaming-x-trio-radeon-rx-6750-xt-12-gb-video-card-radeon-rx-6750-xt-gaming-x-trio-12g

[young crystal]

that 6750 is wildly attractive but whats the difference between that and the 6700? the specs seem to be about the same or worse in the clock speed

and the 6800 has way lower clock speed, is it important at all?

[keen nacelle]

It's a bit better

6800 is a bit better than 3070 ti

6700xt bit worse than 3070

6750xt similar to 3070

[young crystal]

i see

i dont want to fall into that trap really but the rgb on the 6750 kinda has me wanting it esp since its cheaper than the 6700 rn

[keen nacelle]

For the price difference considering it's actually $450 that's fine

[vapid owl]

Hello if I was to upgrade to a 6950xt from a 3060ti would my fps see a difference? I’m currently with a 5800x3d 32gb ddr4 ram .

Playing on 2k 165hz monitor

[fading glacier]

dont say 2k

its 1440p

and yes, you will see a difference

not a big difference but a difference nonetheless

[rustic pulsar]

They why is 3840 x 2160 “4k”

[fading glacier]

cause its a bad habit as well

is not 4k, its 2160p

[rustic pulsar]

That’s so many syllables

[fading glacier]

the correct way is not always the easiest

[ivory herald]

that 3840 wide is sort of 4k btw, but indeed we hate 2k said for 1440p. 😅

[livid idol]

1920 is a lot closer to 2k than 2560 so it would make more sense to call 1080p 2k and 1440p 2.5k

But nooooo, marketing departments had other plans

[lone pond]

Just go for FHD, QHD and UHD

No need to make sensee

[vital oriole]

WUXGA, 16:10 1920x1200

the hell is that abbreviation

WQXGA is basically 1440p in 16:10

2560x1600

[livid idol]

If there was only those three yeah that would be great

[vital oriole]

I could understand fhd+ or something

Like asus loves to use on 16:10 laptops

but nah

[livid idol]

But yeah tf is WQUXGA supposed to mean

[vital oriole]

wuxga and wqxga

definitely not confusing

me seeing the u made me think it was higher than fhd

but nah it's just 16:10 of that res

[wicked hound]

Looked it up cuz idk, Widescreen (Quad) Ultra Extended Graphics Array. Looking at Wikipedia Graphics Display Resolution, seems like Graphics Array was a pretty normal name for old resolutions.

[vital oriole]

huh

i suppose i have gotten used to modern resolution naming

[wicked hound]

Widescreen, Quad, and Ultra are pretty normal modern prefixes. Extended seems to be a normal prefix for older resolutions I think

[livid idol]

Ultrawide 1440p makes a lot more sense to say though, especially for the less knowledgeable.

[vital oriole]

yeah

[unkempt quarry]

is a 1000w psu too small for a 3060 + 3080ti + i9-12900k?

[lone pond]

way more than enough. you're good as long as it's not some rando aliexpress unit

[unkempt quarry]

alright, im just a bit worried since ive seen my pc peak at ~750 watts with just the 3080 and i9 installed

(from the outlet)

[lone pond]

actually I think I'm misremembering how much energy the i9 pulls. probably not way more than enough but still plenty

[keen nacelle]

it'll be fine, what are you using the pc for tho?

[unkempt quarry]

i just need some more vram for ai stuff

cant run two models at once unless i get another gpu

or upgrade my current one which is out of my price range

not 100% sure im even going to get another gpu, might just use cloud services or smth

[keen nacelle]

what model psu?

[unkempt quarry]

corsair hx1000

[keen nacelle]

you'll be fine

worst case scenario down the line if you ever have issues (all that would happen with that psu would be shutting down under load) you can buy a higher wattage one

with a psu of that quality it won't damage anything if it isn't high enough wattage

so I say go for it, if any issues arise deal with them then

1200w decent psus aren't really expensive anymore, can get a B tier 1200w for $150

[unkempt quarry]

alright cool, was worried id have to spend like 200-300 on a new psu or smth

[keen nacelle]

nah not at all

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6PsV3C/enermax-revolution-df-2-1200-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ers1200ewt if you end up needing one

[unkempt quarry]

also, there shouldnt be much of a difference in power draw between the 3060 and 3060 12g right?

[keen nacelle]

don't buy the 8gb

it's terrible

[unkempt quarry]

yeah im planning on getting the 12g one

just making sure because i didnt specify it was the 12g one before

[keen nacelle]

yeah itll be fine

[unkempt quarry]

im not really comfortable with tweaking things like that

[solemn panther]

[unkempt quarry]

are those changes persistant across operating systems

[keen nacelle]

it's super simple, just download msi afterburner and move a slider a lil bit and click a check mark

no, you'd have to download it on every OS

[unkempt quarry]

i dont think i can run afterburner on my current os

a fork of ubuntu

(pop os, and yes i know its not the best)

ill def look into it

so all id need to do is just get the 3080 to draw less when im doing things that are super resource intensive?

well im pretty sure ive figured out how to power limit it

i just had to do sudo nvidia-smi -pl {power limit in watts}

and i havent seen it draw more than the power limit i set

if i actually decide to get a second gpu and run into performance issues power limiting my main gpu ill look into undervolting

thanks for the advice

[quartz gull]

Scored me a GTX 1050 2GB for $5 today, It's in great shape. It's such a cute little card

[spare relic]

:o

nice

[vital oriole]

dayum

[quartz gull]

1050 is a good media PC card, can handle 2 4K outputs playing video at once

[native cliff]

Guys let’s say in the future, I pair my 5600g with a rtx 3060 ti, used for AI Upscaling VHS tape videos to look clearer. Is 850w enough and will that graphics card bottleneck on a 1080p monitor if I decide to game on it?

[fading glacier]

850w is way overkill

it can go pretty well on 600+

and no it will not bottleneck the 5600g

at 1080p

[native cliff]

I wanted to go with a 650w psu but it was in the tier C range and non modular for $60ish with a 5yr warranty, but I went with a 850w thermaltake gf1 that was fully modular and had a 10yr warranty but for $95 so it felt like it was worth it for me 😅

The 10yr warranty was my buying point

[fading glacier]

nice

if you can score an A tier at 750w it will be nice too

those are like 80usd something something

anyway the gf1 is a great unit indeed

[quartz gull]

I have a 850w power supply for my 13700k + 4090... You really don't need that much for a 5600G (65 watt CPU) and a 4060ti (200 watt). Nvidia recommends a 600 watt PSU and they base that off of a 12900K which pulls 250 watts

[hasty sphinx]

So far I've only pulled 208w with my 13700k

[solemn panther]

Only

💀

[keen nacelle]

My 13600k pulled 315w at one point

Before I undervolted it

[hasty sphinx]

That's not bad xD

although, I think I might need to switch to another AIO

The Galahad let it get to 90c.

[keen nacelle]

you don't really get much better than the galahad 360

sure there's better aios, but imo not noticeably enough to matter

aside from maybe lf2 420

I need to repaste my cpu and get a contact frame

[heady turtle]

in games or stress?

[hasty sphinx]

uhm, I think it was portal 2 actually

last night

[heady turtle]

ah fair, gaming takes a lot less power than stress test

[hasty sphinx]

actually it may have been MWII. I just loaded up Portal 2 and I'm sitting at 43c

[heady turtle]

thatd make more senes

[hasty sphinx]

MWII be acting funny on my new system though for sure. get wierd spikes where it seems my fps is dropping substantially for a split second before jumping back up

[heady turtle]

try recompiling shaders

[hasty sphinx]

I did. I also turned off any streaming or any of that.

I lowered settings as well

[heady turtle]

hmm, dlss helps a lot too

[hasty sphinx]

yeah

When I first loaded it back up and was trying to play some new map.. like houses floating on water

I'd get into a match and within 20 seconds, the game would kick me out saying connection failed.

Did it 4 times before I said f it and just played quick play

[heady turtle]

oof, also yeah on the almost most recent update vondel and ashika had big fps issues, finally got fixed like friday lol

[hasty sphinx]

oh ok. is ashika the one stormy island with house in the middle?

because I played that map twice and I actually liked it

[heady turtle]

Vondel is the city one ashika is the stormy one ye

[hasty sphinx]

I like Ashika then 😛

I didn't have any issues on that one

[heady turtle]

They fixed them both recently

[random walrus]

Is it only in warzone? I've heard that the season 4 update messed up performance for warzone on PC

[hasty sphinx]

I haven't played warzone yet. It's a little to slow paced for my liking.

besides for battle royal style.. Apex is my go to

[random walrus]

fair. I dislike the short ttk in warzone

Resurgence and Plunder can be fun though

[oak rivet]

On the low side for intel tbh

X3d owners can't relate tho

[thin epoch]

https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-rtx-3080-strix-rtx3080-o10g-v2-gaming/p/N82E16814126534 whats better

https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3080-rtx-3080-suprim-x-10g-lhr/p/N82E16814137676

[ivory herald]

$300ish more than they should be nowadays.

[heady turtle]

this one https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BM92FT/xfx-radeon-rx-6950-xt-16-gb-speedster-merc-319-video-card-rx-695xatbd9

[thin epoch]

ty]

[heady turtle]

theyre both extremly overpriced

[solemn panther]

My point

[gusty estuary]

Hi i dont know much about graphic cards and stuff and i need some help are there any graphic cards that are good for gaming in the price range of 450$

[keen nacelle]

6700xt

Or 6750xt/6800

[gusty estuary]

ok

Thank you

[keen nacelle]

What psu and cpu do you have?

[gusty estuary]

I have to check

I got my pc a long time ago

I just never got the grpaphic card

[keen nacelle]

I would, if psu is bad or low wattage it might not be able to run the gpu

[gusty estuary]

im only 13 i dont really understand that much

[keen nacelle]

Alright, so to check the psu you'd have to take tbe side panel of the pc off

Possibly the back panel (other side panel) depends on if your case has a psu shroud

Which is something that covers the psu and possibly hard drive bay

[gusty estuary]

Ok

[random walrus]

You may also be able to look up the specs from when you ordered it

[keen nacelle]

^ good point

[solemn panther]

Not bad

[lone pond]

is it a legit seller?

[random walrus]

It's a gpu on OfferUp, in my experience more likely than not a scam

[blazing sphinx]

whats the best mid tier gpu

[keen nacelle]

depends on definition of mid tier

I'd say 6650xt, someone else might say 6700xt, someone else might say 4070

[fringe scroll]

If someone told me 4070 is mid tier I'd cry

[lone pond]

4090 is midrange tbh

[fringe scroll]

Real

[heady stratus]

no.... the 3090 is midrange

[lone pond]

3090 is entry level

[heady stratus]

Doesn't have enough Ray Tracing cores

[lone pond]

can't even play minecraft on a 3090 anymore

smh my head

[heady stratus]

right?

When I have to do DLSS on 4k with ultra settings, i'm upset

i require zero downscaling

[lone pond]

true

I run my games at 16K and then downscale them to fit my 720p 30hz display

[heady stratus]

rofl please no

[lone pond]

[heady stratus]

You jest, that was my screen 10 years ago

[lone pond]

same lol

although I wasn't playing games, just watching ripped DVDs

[heady stratus]

DIVX!

[lone pond]

yeah that's a better acronym lol

[heady stratus]

My mind spelled it backwards, oops

[lone pond]

unfortunate

[heady stratus]

But yeah.... 5090 or bust bb

[lone pond]

8950XTX Super TI

[random thunder]

Anyone know any stable 7900xtx drivers which version to use

[rustic pulsar]

are the newest ones unstable?

[random thunder]

I having problems with direct x and when I go back to a older version I get blue screens I just wanna know which ones are stable this is kinda getting annoying

[rustic pulsar]

if u are having trouble with the news ones first step is to ddu

,ddu

[livid idol]

Try DDU instead of the clean install then

[rustic pulsar]

.ddu

[livid idol]

?ddu

[neat venture]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[livid idol]

You almost had it

[rustic pulsar]

i was gonne get it eventually!

[random thunder]

Yea I did this earlier and did a older version but that one is giving me blue screens I don't know which one is actually stable

[livid idol]

Only thing to do there is keep trying different versions

[odd siren]

Did you check what the blue screen errors were?

You can double check them in windows event viewer

Under system events

It'll say "Windows has rebooted from a bugcheck" and give this string that'll read out like

0x00000696

For example

Bsods also have a readout as well

[brisk flame]

downgrading to 285 from 3080

[random thunder]

The only time I blue screen is when I did something graphically intense

[odd siren]

Checked temps?

[random thunder]

They are fine to

[odd siren]

Cos it can also be watchdog related for games

[random thunder]

It's only when I changed drivers it started blue screening

[odd siren]

Ah I see

Do you remember which driver you had?

If not

Try 23.1.1

[random thunder]

The newest one is give me direct x problems then when I go back I get blue screens

Ok

[odd siren]

Specifically 23.1.1

[random thunder]

Should I do DDu then download that

[odd siren]

Up to you

I'd argue yes

But ymmv on that one

23.7.1 is supposed to be better but cards can sometimes prefer the power behaviour of specific drivers

Kinda like how AGESA works with mobo bios'

Not really a one size fits all situation

[random thunder]

Yea I'm starting to realize why people say AMD drivers suck

System thread interprion from downloading something lovely

[fringe scroll]

Ur so smart sassy

[livid idol]

You did mention you upgraded from a 480, so it's probably more of a conflict issue than an AMD specific issue. I get the same kind of weird things on nvidia.

[random thunder]

Yea but I did the DDU earlier unless I did it wrong

[odd siren]

System thread exception??

[random thunder]

Yea idk

[odd siren]

Hm

Try a ram test

[random thunder]

It'll say amd sometimes and that

Ram test was fine when I was troubleshooting when I was getting these blue screens

[odd siren]

Ehhhh

You shouldn't be getting blue screens from the gpu while just downloading

[random thunder]

These blue screens went away when I updated the graphics driver

[odd siren]

Wait, how long have you had these?

[random thunder]

I got no clue what to say mate these blue screens make no since

[odd siren]

How long has this been happening

[random thunder]

Couple weeks after I built the pc

Built it like 2 -3 months ago

[odd siren]

So months

[random thunder]

Lol

[odd siren]

Ima be real with you man that's not really normal behaviour

[random thunder]

It stopped happening when I updated to latest gpu drivers

[odd siren]

I see, and now it just dies under games?

[random thunder]

Idk what to say mate now that I updated again its getting these direct x error when I play game like ark

[odd siren]

Interesting

So you did a ram test and everything is ok ye?

[random thunder]

Yes

[odd siren]

Did you try sfc /scannow

[random thunder]

Everything is brand new in the system I hope it is

Done did that

[odd siren]

Find anything?

[random thunder]

I come here for last resort nothing

[odd siren]

Alr

Go to bios

Set your pcie slot to 3.0

See if it changes anything

If it's specifically gpu related, that can sometimes alter the behaviour

[random thunder]

You know let me show you something

[odd siren]

Alr

[random thunder]

This could be the problem could not be idk

[odd siren]

By all means share it

Anything you're curious about, often it's related

[random thunder]

Well can't do it in safe mod what do I click to make sure I do this right

[odd siren]

You mean ddu?

[random thunder]

Yes sent pic

[odd siren]

Ddu must be done in safe mode

If you don't do it in safe mode it ruins the drivers

[random thunder]

Yes I'm in safe mode

[odd siren]

Oh

Mb I misread then

So on the right hand side

Click the drop down boxes

Select amd gpu

[random thunder]

Ok

[odd siren]

Then "clean and restart"

[random thunder]

Do I restart it myself

Or does it do it

[odd siren]

It restarts itself

[random thunder]

Oh

That mightve

[odd siren]

Sit back and let it cruise

[random thunder]

I manually restarted last time I did this

[livid idol]

Don't filter evade pls and thx

[odd siren]

I did this in the past with my older nvidia cards and I was fine

But we'll see

It's easy just to go make a coffee in this situation lol

[random thunder]

I'm on my phone it was a misclick auto correct don't work

[livid idol]

Ah ok. Not a huge deal don't worry.

[odd siren]

Yeah I swear all the time

I'm Australian so it's an included package

(the filter catches it tho)

[random thunder]

How do I look at my storage again idk how I forgot

[odd siren]

Storage?

Wym

[livid idol]

In bios or in windows?

[random thunder]

Yes

No just on windows homescreen

[livid idol]

Open file explorer and click this pc

[odd siren]

"create or format disk partitions" in start menu search

Yeah file explorer

Or thirdly crystaldiskinfo

[random thunder]

Yea that's what I wantes

My m.2 is kinda split

[livid idol]

Perfectly acceptable

[brisk flame]

yeah ik

[odd siren]

Yeah nothing wrong there

You can use that screen to remove it tho

[random thunder]

Ok didn't know I cloned my old drive on the m.2 but wouldn't let add the rest to the c drive

This drivers right before I do it

[odd siren]

Ye

Download 22.12.2 as well

That would be my second choice driver

They're both just really solid in my experience

[random thunder]

Ok good hopefully I will never have to mess with this again

[odd siren]

Yeah man

Honestly if we'd known earlier we'd have been happy to help

Hopefully this does something

[random thunder]

Yea I don't like bother people and I'm also going into the IT field so it makes me learn how to troubleshoot

[odd siren]

Fair enough, you got a lot of decent role models here for that

We all started from somewhere

[random thunder]

I've only went through 2 semester of college I just know how to troubleshoot and build a computer and a little about Linux

[odd siren]

When its done lmk

Give it a whirl

[random thunder]

Hmmm

Blue screen opening ark

Everything else was fine till then

Said the same thing with system thread interception

[odd siren]

Nah it'll be a different error

"this computer has rebooted from a bugcheck"

It'll say something to those lines

[random thunder]

The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x0000007e (0xffffffffc0000005, 0xfffff801c5ee5130, 0xffffc804c3ef69a8, 0xffffc804c3ef61c0). A dump was saved in: C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\072623-14687-01.dmp. Report Id: d887ac96-0e7e-426f-b961-2d6bce5ff297.

[odd siren]

Perfect

Ok just for sanity's sake, try ddu again with 22.12.2

If it still happens ima suggest a couple things to try

[random thunder]

ok

[odd siren]

It's unlikely to be amd drivers at that point

[random thunder]

Wow

I don't like seeing artifacts it crashed again

[odd siren]

Artifacts?

[random thunder]

Before I could boot into safe mode

[odd siren]

Wait artifacts

Like, space invaders?

Little blocks on screen all weird colours

?

[random thunder]

Yea

At the bottom

Me don't like that

[odd siren]

Ah bugger

That's not a good sign

Ok, you haven't taken apart the gpu yeah?

[random thunder]

Nope

[odd siren]

Ok sweet

We'll try the couple other things but I'm like, 80% sure it's a dying vram module on the gpu calling for a warranty claim

[random thunder]

Would that be through amd right

[odd siren]

Through whoever you bought it from

Use your receipt for the claim (or order history)

[random thunder]

Well that's a factory problem right I just bought it?

[odd siren]

Yes

[livid idol]

You can send me the memory crash dumps and I'll analyze them for anything we might have missed

[odd siren]

Dead vram (or dead memory in general) is random in the way it unalives itself

[livid idol]

They're in C:\Windows\Minidumps

(best way to send them is to copy them to desktop, then compress into a zip)

[odd siren]

Ram does this a lot too, like you buy and install it, brand new, dead 1 week later for no reason

[random thunder]

I didn't buy microcenter warranty would I be screwed then

[odd siren]

No

You are 100% protected by standard warranty

[odd siren]

@random thunder it's a brand new card yeah

[random thunder]

Thank God I'm so stressed right now

Yes

I got the box still

[odd siren]

Yeah absolutely covered

Just take your receipt to micro center, describe to them the paper trail

(what we did together)

[random thunder]

Oof

[odd siren]

Explain the glitchy screen

You should walk out with a brand new one

[random thunder]

4 hours away is there a way I could just call amd or do I have to go through mixrocenter

[livid idol]

Microcenter is usually awesome about exchanging like that

[odd siren]

They've done it in the past but I wouldn't guarantee it

[livid idol]

The alternative is sending it to the manufacturer (msi, asus, etc) and waiting 4-8 weeks for them to try to fix it

[odd siren]

Normally warranty goes along the lines of "Please see your retailer for your claim" when speaking to cs reps

Then the retailer sends it through the proper channels

[random thunder]

Yea but I didn't buy their warranty thays what I'm stressed about

[odd siren]

Doesn't matter

By law you have a standard warranty

by law

It needs to work for an expected period of wear and tear

[random thunder]

How long is that

[odd siren]

Which gpu is it

Usually 2 years or more

[random thunder]

7900xtx

[odd siren]

Which brand

Lol

[random thunder]

Asrock

[odd siren]

3 years

[odd siren]

Yep

@livid idol you thinking what I'm thinking

That def looks like dying vram to me

[random thunder]

Should I show them that at mixrocenter

[odd siren]

Absolutely

[random thunder]

I don't even what I should say to them

[odd siren]

Just take the key points of what we did today

Ddu, the bsods

That picture

Show them maybe that sfc /scannow doesn't find anything

Or maybe just describe that

But that to me looks like faulty vram

4 hours away oof

[random thunder]

Just my luck

Yea and now I gotta talk to my parents about it yea

[odd siren]

I mean, it's a 1000 dollar card

It's worth driving for, just sucks

You have my condolences 🙏

[random thunder]

Yea I'm just so stressed if they say no or something

[odd siren]

Is there maybe a train or bus

[livid idol]

Analyzed, can confirm the only identified fault is with the AMD driver which can be caused by hardware

I didn't see any other conflicting processes named or anything

[fringe scroll]

Work of art

[odd siren]

What you think when you see the bsod pic fal lol

[livid idol]

Yeah that's memory

[fringe scroll]

Wam

[odd siren]

If three people can say that with certainty @random thunder , I'm pretty sure you'll be fine when you take it back 👍

[livid idol]

Maybe you could try underclocking the vram as a stopgap? That might help temporarily assuming it's not a totally borked chip

[fringe scroll]

I'm not sure I really count tho 💀

[odd siren]

You always count to me

[fringe scroll]

I saw that

[odd siren]

I know you did

[fringe scroll]

🙄

[odd siren]

🧡

[fringe scroll]

<33

Keep the degeneracy in gen

[odd siren]

Perfect

Yeah take it back to them man. Sucks but you're armed with the right stuff

Don't forget your receipt

[random thunder]

Yea I got it

[odd siren]

Hopefully this next card you're doing a lot better with it 💀

[random thunder]

Do you think they try to agrue I overlooked it or no?

[fringe scroll]

I spot ubuntu

[random thunder]

Overclocked

[fringe scroll]

Can't hurt a card with afterburner

Or

Most software for that matter

Unless it's like Radeon with mpt

[random thunder]

Ok I never overclocked I was just curious if they would say something

Like that

[fringe scroll]

Nah

[random thunder]

Where you find this at?

[odd siren]

Rdna 3 is so locked down that it's impossible to damage the card with overclocking, but just don't say you did any

Gloss over it if they ask

People react differently to OC, but it's engineered into the card by design

[odd siren]

Google

[random thunder]

So is this what you were referring to

[odd siren]

No, I went and looked it's a confirmed 3 year warranty for asrock 7900 gpus

[fringe scroll]

Wild name negl

[odd siren]

But you could argue that yes, this applies as well

[random thunder]

Yea my only concern was its been 4 months

[livid idol]

That applies to GPUs sold directly by AMD's online store and carrying only AMD branding

[random thunder]

Oh

[livid idol]

You can call microcenter before you go to see if they'll work with you

[random thunder]

Good idea

[odd siren]

Yeah that's a great idea

[random thunder]

Should I say something the along lines I got a factory defect

[odd siren]

Describe to them you are getting bsods with "space invaders"

[random thunder]

Or act like I don't know anything f

[odd siren]

Specifically that phrase

[livid idol]

Yep. And emphasize you've been dealing with the issue since you bought it.

[random thunder]

Is there a serial number on the card because uts kinda hard to see the serial number on the receipt but they can still some what see just curious

[rustic pulsar]

and say that you will tell all your friends how crapy micro centers products are and they will post on facebook

"I know a lot of very important people"

[odd siren]

On the box in my experience

I've never had asrock tho, there should be a serial number on the card somewhere too

[livid idol]

Usually a sticker on the backplate

[livid idol]

Nah threats like that are rarely taken seriously

[random thunder]

Yea just looked its on there forgot about the nox

Box

[rustic pulsar]

i was joking do not do this

be nice to the people that u are talking to

[random thunder]

I shouldn't need no warranty papers right I didn't know if any was in the box or not

[odd siren]

Not normally

[random thunder]

Ok I'm sorry if I'm asking so many questions I'm so stressed right now I spent my hard earn money on that and I wanna make sure I have everything to get the replacement

[vital oriole]

I never filled my warranty papers either

RMA always accepted

They just check serial number instead

[livid idol]

And if you don't have your receipt they'll just go by the date of manufacture

Which is beneficial to them because that's often several months before it hits a shelf but it's something

[vital oriole]

Oh yeah, that's a bit scummy lol

For my case asus uses activation date on their database if there's any

If not, they hold the right to going by date of manufacture

[livid idol]

I find with MSI it's beneficial to register your stuff for that reason, they'll have you upload your receipt then and there

[vital oriole]

Asus doesn't do that honestly

[livid idol]

Then if you lose it 2 years later in your 3 year warranty you're still covered

[vital oriole]

You just, download myasus app on your asus device running windows

It'll automatically read serial number from bios, I believe

Then you log in, register device and it's all done

No receipts required

[livid idol]

I also like buying stuff online, because it's impossible to lose your receipt

[vital oriole]

same

But I prefer the asus way lel

[frigid anvil]

In all fairness I've never beenb a huge fan of Zotac

Last card I had was a jet engine

[livid idol]

"In all fairness"
Proceeds to unfairly judge an entire brand from one product

(but I do kinda agree with you lol)

[fading glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/zotac-3080-gif-18549684

[fading glacier]

ikr xD in all fairness i judge a brand, not a card

imagine being unfair now

zotac cards aren't that bad if you take into account that most of the time (if not all) their cards are the cheapest. So don't expect the best of the best from them

now getting a bad asus card is terrible cause by their price tag you expect the very best from them imo

[unique relic]

sorry if its not the right channel I couldnt find a laptops channel but I'm searching for a laptop with 4070 ti and a nice cpu for game development

I don't have a budget limit but I want something good

I'll buy from newegg btw

any suggestions?

[vital oriole]

there's no 4070ti laptops

or any ti variants as of current

for unlimited budget i suppose you can buy 4090 laptops

it's 4080 desktop packaged in laptops

4080 more like 4070 desktop

[unique relic]

are 4090s my only options for more than 8 gb vram

oh so 4080s have 12 gb as well

[lone pond]

yeh, 4080 = downclocked 4070 ti; 4090 = downclocked 4080

[unique relic]

to be honest, I don't need a 4080 or 4090, are there any 12 gb rtx 4070 laptop models

[lone pond]

iirc the 4070 cards are on ad106, which is a 128 bit die. so either 8GB or 16GB, and I highly doubt there will ever be clamshelled 16GB variants of those in mobile. so 8GB for them

[unique relic]

hmm

are there any unified memory ones maybe

[lone pond]

unified memory?

as in an APU?

[unique relic]

no like what apple does

[lone pond]

yeah, so an APU. system memory is video memory and vice versa

[unique relic]

apu wont cut it if they are apus

ok

hm what about a gpu dock would that be a good option for more vram

egpus

[lone pond]

eh, should do. thunderbolt works, and iirc even AMD's USB 4 sometimes works? I haven't followed that space in a looooong time lol

you can also steal PCIE off of an m.2 but that's a little scuffed

[unique relic]

yes I saw that before thats way too hacky

hm maybe I should do like

buy an rtx 4070 laptop

and upgrade my 2070 in desktop to 4080

thats at the same price with a 4080 laptop

in the same price I have a 4080 desktop and 4070 laptop like that

[lone pond]

if it works for you

could also be worth looking into a 7900 xtx on the desktop instead tho. notably less expensive and some extra performance. also more vram which is a neat bonus

AMD Radeon is kinda nonexistant in laptop tho

[unique relic]

yes thats very sad

because on pc I could do stuff which needs stuff like

nvidia optix

and use an amd gpu on a laptop

and u know take advantage of the more vram

[lone pond]

yeh

it also doesn't help that the only mobile 7000 series cards AMD has launched have been low end cards lol

6000 mobile was pretty cool, but practically 0 volume

[unique relic]

its interesting how new gen laptops came out really slow

on both nvidia and amd sides

[lone pond]

in AMD's case they've only launched products based on their lowest end dies, which they priced somewhat accordingly. Nvidia is essentially shifting the dies down a tier while keeping the same names. 4070m is really a 4060 ti. which is particularly bad considering that they've done the same on desktop, so really they're priced and named two tiers above what they should be in mobile lol

[unique relic]

yes I wasnt checking laptop prices for a while and I was surprised with the prices

but nothing we can do ig

[lone pond]

yeh. just buy open box last gen stuff tbh. if offers the same performance at a better price and not vastly worse efficiency if you undervolt

[unique relic]

hmm maybe

but for now do u have any suggestions for an rtx 4070 laptop which isnt stupidly overpriced like razer laptops

[lone pond]

honestly mate, I think just about all of them will be overpriced unless they've fallen below Nvidia's price estimates they put out at the mobile GPU's launch

I haven't kept up with that side of things much, so I can't speak to it

[unique relic]

I didn't mean like that, razers r way more priced than others in the same category thats why

like ik stuff like mini led etc costs money but I don't need that on a laptop as of right now

these rog strix g16s look good

qhd 240 hz not sure why its needed but cool

oh theres a g17 thats better

bigger screen is always better for me

[lone pond]

oh gotcha. I haven't kept up with the space, but Jarrod's tech on YT is a great place to get in depth coverage of various models. notebookcheck does great work too

[unique relic]

ok I'll check them then

thank u

[lone pond]

np. hopefully you find something that works ^-^

[frigid anvil]

Might end up using my laptop actually but the desktop so good

[wicked hound]

Im just going to shill Framework 16, cuz FW shill. You prolly wont go for it cuz its preorder, not "budget" gaming laptop (higher build quality/upgradability at higher upfront cost), and only dGPU option is 7700S. But as a shill I must shill the product.

[unique relic]

I wanted to buy framework at first

but they dont ship to my country

[wicked hound]

F

[unique relic]

I still like the project tho

[wicked hound]

Anything like https://www.reship.com/ for your country?

[unique relic]

oh prob

idk

I'll check

[wicked hound]

That is if you care about going through the hassle of a process like that.

[unique relic]

I want to support framework but idk tbh thats a lot of work

• I will still need a gpu

[wicked hound]

Sounds like you're also doing a desktop upgrade, remote desktop not really that viable (even if not FW laptop, can still cut down on laptop cost)?

[unique relic]

remote desktop wont do my thing for a lot of reasons

[wicked hound]

Who knows when FW16 is getting Nvidia option. I know for my work environment I will sometimes need CUDA so I was also kinda offput too.

[unique relic]

well technically theres an egpu option but that makes a laptop basically a little desktop

and I already have a desktop

• too costy for spending on a startup

[wicked hound]

Im lucky enough that remote desktop would prolly work, and I doubt I'd need CUDA (mostly matters what company I work for tbf). But that still be a couple "ifs" & "buts" Im risking that I dont really need to risk by just staying with my old laptop.

Yeah eGPU is pretty expensive unless you go M2E/M2M (WiFi/NVMe) route.

[unique relic]

and thats uh

very hacky

[wicked hound]

And basically kills laptop portability, need to spend 5 - 10 mins to "dock"/"undock" it.

[unique relic]

yeah exactly

so overall framework isnt an option for me bc of their lack of their wide dgpu support and them not shipping to my country

but I like the idea behind it a lot

and I'll get a framework some time later for sure

[wicked hound]

Also smth to note about mini LED, it's a gimick rn. Backlight zones are too large. I know you're already avoiding it for cost, but avoid it for quality too. Hopefully that'll change at some point, but idk. Basically only worthwhile upgrade from single backlight is OLED.

Regardless, if you're looking for a laptop my advice would be to compile a list of laptops sorted by price (ascending), then search reviews for them until you know what is ideal.

[unique relic]

I've thought about oled

but people say that oled drains battery a lot

I ofc wont use it on battery all the times

prob 3-4 hours a day in light load

3-4 at max

[wicked hound]

Idk if I'd get OLED on a monitor I cant really replace. Who knows how hard it'll be to source panels in 3+ yrs when it needs to be replaced for burnin.

[vital oriole]

it always works now, at least with my tuf a15 with 7735hs equipped with usb 4.0

40 gbps with displayport ofc

[lone pond]

nice, good to hear. I remember a while back reading that it was fairly hit or miss. glad to see that they've ironed it out

[vital oriole]

yeah it's pretty nice

[unique relic]

yes exactly I have that concern

[wicked hound]

Well was it hit or miss based on model, or just in general?

[lone pond]

by model

afaik

[vital oriole]

Probably by model

I can say is that asus does it right though

Even on non zen 4 based models

[wicked hound]

Well, your specific model of laptop and specific model of eGPU rather.

[vital oriole]

Hm, true

[random thunder]

Is there any program that test for failure in the vram chips in the gpus

[random thunder]

Do you think it could be just the driver I havent blue screened since I updated to the latest driver I only have Direct X problems so far when trying to open games

It started blue screening alot more when I went to that alot older driver

[odd siren]

Games

So you've pretty much hit the nail on the head

There are actual tests

Like occt vram

But I wouldn't call that a significant test

Games are more reliable at finding errors

Call of duty warzone is a brilliant example

[random thunder]

yea but once I restart my game itll let me open it with no problem

restart my computer I mean

[odd siren]

Wym

It's not ok the first time, but second time it's always fine?

[random thunder]

When I first launch my computer itll let me open ark with no direct X problems but if I close it out and try to reopen it again itll pop up with the direct x 10 level featur thing

[odd siren]

Can you send a picture of the error

[random thunder]

the game runs just fine also I left it running for a couple of ours no blue screens or anything

[odd siren]

Interesting

So things are better after ddu?

Or nah

[random thunder]

didnt make a difference

this is what the error says but it only happens on the last two latest drivers

[odd siren]

That's a very weird error

[random thunder]

if I go to the older drivers like I did last night it likes blue screen and showed those artifacts

[odd siren]

Either way your space invaders screenshot is telling that there's very likely a deeper level issue with the card

[odd siren]

Yeah, that's where it's not normal

[random thunder]

honestly thats the first time it ever did that

showing those artifact when i went to the old version in janurary driver

[odd siren]

I mean

I am still sus of the card

If you have a spare ssd or hdd you could try a blank windows install to see if it's any better

[random thunder]

honestly

it could be that

[odd siren]

At that point you'd truly rule out everything but the vram

[random thunder]

something couldve corrupted when I cloned it

[odd siren]

Possibly?

[random thunder]

yea

[odd siren]

You could try that then

[random thunder]

I would think also im haveing problems with my windows log in thing with my school/work account it keeps asking me to sign in please

it pop up every now and then

[odd siren]

No that's just windows being windows

I hate it asking lol

[random thunder]

stupid windows lol

[odd siren]

Lol

Try a blank install, then try ark again

If it's better, rip old install

[random thunder]

so this might be a stupid question can I just uninstall windows and reinstall it

[odd siren]

If not, rip card

You could

But you'll lose all your data

[random thunder]

ok thats what I thought

[odd siren]

That's why I said spare storage

Cos then you don't lose anything

[random thunder]

yea I could try with the HDD that it is cloned off of

[odd siren]

Go for it

[random thunder]

itll be slower than dog water tho lol

[odd siren]

Easy enough to do, just install windows, chipset drivers and gpu drivers

Turn on Ark and go

[random thunder]

if ark wasnt only 300gb

[odd siren]

Is it really that big

Wtf

[random thunder]

yea lmao

[odd siren]

Wasn't it like 30??

[random thunder]

no

[odd siren]

What happened

[random thunder]

more dlc maps

[odd siren]

It became the big game

Oh well, if downloading is the only gripe then life is good tbh

I could believe windows tomfoolery at play here too

[random thunder]

I hope so I really dont want to go throught the process of trying to get a new card

[odd siren]

Either way both are reasonable answers to the issue at hand

[random thunder]

so if it is a windows problem How would I go about fixing it on my SSD

[odd siren]

New windows

Move important stuff off

Wipe the ssd clean

New windows install with the old windows key

[random thunder]

ok im going to have to buy some more storage I dont got enough

[odd siren]

?

Move it to the hdd

[random thunder]

its full

I kinda saving it for a hard backup

[odd siren]

Oh ok

What mobo have you got

And how much storage (and how many) is in said mobo

[random thunder]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PRntv3

[odd siren]

Just the one storage chip?

[keen nacelle]

looks good, psu and monitors are overpriced tho

[odd siren]

Ez add in

[random thunder]

yea sadly it came in the bundle

[keen nacelle]

oh im stupid

ignore me

[random thunder]

you mean m.2 slot?

[random thunder]

monitors were on sale

[keen nacelle]

yeah nvm

[odd siren]

Nah

Grab this today

[keen nacelle]

i missed everything above and thought you were someone looking for advice on a list, ignore me

[odd siren]

https://www.gamestop.com/products/msi-spatium-m450-pcie-4.0-nvme-m.2-1tb-sm450n1tb-ssd/356089.html

Btw bacca, back in stock

[keen nacelle]

yeah gamestops got $8 shipping tho

so not as good

still $35 after tax and shipping for me, which is cheaper than any other decent 1tb ssd

[random thunder]

also my sniping tool dosent wanna open

[keen nacelle]

just do windows key shift s

[odd siren]

Here's what I get when I search gamestop in my country

[keen nacelle]

does the same thing

[odd siren]

Windows moment

[keen nacelle]

W

[random thunder]

Wow I can't click anything now on my computer on my phone

[keen nacelle]

?

parsec?

[random thunder]

The computer ain't frozen but i can't click anything either

[keen nacelle]

oh i see what you mean

that sounds a lot like corrupted windows then

[random thunder]

Ironically I updated to windows 11 to help fix something like that but I guess it didn't work

[odd siren]

Def try a new install

[random thunder]

Should I do 10 or 11

[odd siren]

Whichever you prefer

10 is arguably better for ryzen

But in a vacuum you probably won't notice

[long ocean]

Would my GPU be the cause of my computer spontaneously restarting itself

[keen nacelle]

sounds like psu to me

what psu and gpu do you have

[long ocean]

7900xt

850w psu

[keen nacelle]

what model psu

[long ocean]

I was using the cable that had the two 6+2 connected at the ends

[keen nacelle]

okay model, should be fine

try it non daisy chained (so use all separate 8 pin cables)

or as many as you can

[random thunder]

is it out of stock already about to buy it lol

[long ocean]

Yup computer restarted

I used two separate cables

[keen nacelle]

hm

[long ocean]

It’s just so weird cause I did a full day of gaming and it worked fine

[keen nacelle]

it could potentially be the psu, the GA does have issues with transients

but i wouldnt say it is just yet

I'd run an sfc/scannow and chkdsk in windows command prompt, you'll have to run it as admin to be able to

[long ocean]

I’m gonna check my 6700xt

And see if it has the same issue

Cause then I’ll just return this POS sapphire

[keen nacelle]

It likely isn't the gpu itself

[long ocean]

So I just ran the benchmark on COD with the old one and it ran it through all the way

The other one it almost immediately restarted the computer

It’s such a weird issue

[keen nacelle]

I'd imagine it's the psu having issues with transients imo

Could return it and get 6950xt and that'd likely be fine

[odd siren]

Or the psu

Get a cooler master v850 sfx

(maybe even v1000 if you have something like a 13900k)

[hasty sphinx]

Would windows event viewer maybe shed some light?

[long ocean]

I have a 9 5900x

[long ocean]

What would I look out for in viewer?

[hasty sphinx]

Event Viewer > (left side) Windows Logs > System.

In the middle will be a list of events windows logged. Look around the time you crashed and see if there are any yellow or red "!". Click on the event and below the list of events will show you the details of that event.

[long ocean]

So the first warning I got was application specific permission settings do not grant local activation permission

[hasty sphinx]

send me a screenshot of the window around the time you crashed

[hasty sphinx]

I meant of the events please.

[hasty sphinx]

What does the display warning say?

[keen nacelle]

GA isn't sfx

Can do an atx psu

It's GM thats sfx

[long ocean]

auto hdr turned on

any critical or error just says the restart was unexpected

[hasty sphinx]

The volmgr doesn't say "Dump file generation succeded"?

[long ocean]

yes it does

[hasty sphinx]

Ok, download WhoCrashed

https://www.resplendence.com/download/whocrashedSetup.exe

Once you've installed it, run the program and then click on the Analyze button.

[long ocean]

it says its the amd driver

[hasty sphinx]

Ok, download the latest drivers. When you run the driver installer be sure to click the option that says factory install.

[long ocean]

It’s an odd problem though

I’ve had a lot of issues with the 7900xt with 22.7 update

I even used DDU to install

So how could it have gotten corrupted between last night and today

[fading glacier]

👀

[hasty sphinx]

DDU is fine and dandy, but it has issues getting rid of all residual AMD GPU files. This is why I said to choose the factory reset option when installing the new drivers. AMD's own installer is the best uninstaller for its own drivers.

[long ocean]

That was the first thing I did - usually always go with it. And still had issues DDU was the one to rectify it

[hasty sphinx]

So they could already have been corrupted and by using DDU you didn't get rid of those corrupted files, so when reinstalling the drivers, it didn't do anything to help the issue.

[hasty sphinx]

Doesn't seem to have rectified anything if you are still having issues?

[long ocean]

I couldn’t launch a game before DDU because it said my drivers were out of date and then yesterday the comp was pretty much on gaming on and off for like 15-18hrs

But they’ve also disabled factory reset with this update apparently?

[hasty sphinx]

oh?

[long ocean]

Yeah there’s an issue they’re dealing with right now regarding windows installing its own drivers over AMDs

Do you think I should hold on to this 7900xt or since my old one is working just return and wait out until AMD gets their stuff together (probably a few hundred years)

[hasty sphinx]

That's up to you. Can you survive gaming on your 6700xt for a little while longer?

[long ocean]

lol I can definitely

I’m just iffy now cause then I think I’ll just get a card cheaper once all of this is sorted

[hasty sphinx]

That's likely. Personally I'd see how long you can go before upgrading again. Possibly wait until next gen.

[odd siren]

Oh oops I thought it was

[random thunder]

Hey I just got a blue screen for this reason kernel mode heap corruption

[odd siren]

I've never seen that bsod before

@random thunder did you try a new windows install yet

[random thunder]

not yet but I will later I think these drivers for amd are just bad/corrupted

https://helpdeskgeek.com/windows-10/how-to-fix-a-kernel-mode-heap-corruption-bsod/

[odd siren]

Heap corruption implies it just found a huge amount of corruption

That sounds like it could be anything

[random thunder]

true

Another thing with the driver thing with amd on this driver version it wont let me share my screen on discord

[odd siren]

I would try the blank windows install. That would tell you 1000% if it was anything software related

[odd siren]

That's not normal

[random thunder]

yea its only on this driver version when I went back it was back to normal

[odd siren]

Which driver?

[random thunder]

these amd drivers make no sense

im useing the latest since its the one that give me hardly any problems except for the direct X after I wait a little

[odd siren]

Hmmm

I'd still try the new windows

[random thunder]

you know im just going to do it now it should be fine if I use my hard backup you would think right?

[odd siren]

Ye

Perfectly fine

[random thunder]

well lets see how this goes

[odd siren]

If you still have problems then yeah, we go back to the vram corruption

Which would be sad but I'd hazard the warranty swap would spell the end after that

You only recently changed ram iirc?

[random thunder]

the whole system is brand new I built it myself

[odd siren]

Corruption points to ram

Or if it was always a bad install, that is possible

Be it vram or ram, it's one or the other I would think

[random thunder]

wish I had a ram tester

those are too expensive

[odd siren]

Ram testers are free

Wym

[random thunder]

I did do a windows ram test it said it was good a while ago

[odd siren]

You could get karhu, anta777 testmem5

Occt ram

Linpack

[random thunder]

I also just think its these bad amd drivers it seems like whatever driver I go to something different happens

[odd siren]

We already did the gpu driver check

Behaviour was the same before and after, therefore it's like, almost with certainty not the drivers

Lol

If it was drivers then a clean install would have fixed it

But it didn't

[random thunder]

Well when I went back to those old drivers I blue screen like every 5 mins with doing nothing with these new ones that was the first blue screen

[odd siren]

Different stability behaviour between versions is unrelated

I can't always be certain but I'm very confident rn

[random thunder]

ok im going to swap the boot drve

[odd siren]

Alr