graphics-cards

[rugged thunder]

Lemme see if I can find one

[livid idol]

You can download it on your phone and copy it to a flash drive from there

[vital oriole]

You do need to format it in fat32

[rugged thunder]

Don't have a USB stick

Damn

[vital oriole]

well

there's a way to this

if you still have the 5600

[rugged thunder]

I do

[vital oriole]

plop it in and use it to update bios

[rugged thunder]

Put in the new cpu

Still the CPU light

Oop nvm we're getting into bios

Why would the GPU have a red light on the back

Or is it part of the gpu and I literally never noticed

[vital oriole]

It's a part of the gpu you didn't notice then

Just an indicator to the gpu getting power

[rugged thunder]

Weird

How do I update the bios without the USB stick?

The guide says I need one

[vital oriole]

Boot into os

[rugged thunder]

On MSI website anyways

[vital oriole]

Download bios and you can probably flash with a tool msi will probably give for windows

Which board is this? I can help you track down which methods are possible for flashing bios

[rugged thunder]

B550m pro vdi wifi

I figured it out it's downloading

I'd thought if my 5600 was fine the 5800X3D would be too

Weird

[vital oriole]

It's cuz 5800X3D is still a whole new sku

Bios has microcodes that only accepts cpus that it knows

It's important for the board to know what the cpu could do and couldn't so that it can figure out how to manage it

[rugged thunder]

Guess it makes sense

Just being ignorant then lol

Sorry bout that

[vital oriole]

It's all good, we all make mistakes

[rugged thunder]

Thankfully I already have the correct power cable at what now

Whatnot

The 8 pin

Uh oh

[livid idol]

Is this after the update and restart?

[rugged thunder]

Yeah should be

Alright yeah was able to get into bios

Walked away to grab a snack, came back and black screen

[livid idol]

Ok so if it updated already then it's just bios settings acting up

[rugged thunder]

It does show the most recent bios on the bios screen

06/08/2023

So they installed

Wish I remembered this step earlier when I ordered the cpu

[livid idol]

Perfect. I'm guessing the blue screen is caused by secure boot then, which is easy to disable.

[rugged thunder]

Excited bios and got booted back to blue screen

Exited

How would I get out of secure boot?

[rugged thunder]

The only thing that works here is is escape

[livid idol]

It'll be under windows configuration

On the advanced menu

[rugged thunder]

Alright disabled that

[livid idol]

F10 save and exit

[rugged thunder]

Still the blue screen

I assume I'm just stuck then

[livid idol]

Make sure that the boot order is correct in the boot section

It should have the windows boot loader as the #1 option, and under hard drive bbs priorities make sure the correct drive is on top

[rugged thunder]

Fixed boot order priorites?

I think it's not seeing my M.2

On board explorer I can only find one M.2 and the sata ssd

Yet it's missing the other one

Wait nvm, I forgot I got rid of that nvme

So it's correct, idk why it's not seeing windows

[livid idol]

It's possible that windows was installed under the CSM and not the UEFI

I'm a tad busy atm but you can find the compatibility mode option and enable that, then set the nvme to the #1 spot on boot order

[rugged thunder]

Okay

Now the system just won't put out video

Close to just throwing this against a wall

CPU light is on, now for the 5600

I don't get it man

[livid idol]

CMOS clear time. If that still doesn't work you might have the boot loader on a different drive, so try putting each at the top until it works.

?cmos

[neat venture]

How to clear CMOS (works for AMD and Intel)
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025368/processors.html

[rugged thunder]

I'll try resetting cmos

Just starting to get extremely stressed with it

If it doesn't work idk what I'll even do

How long should I leave the battery out for

Yep

Gpu won't put out video anymore

CPU light still on

Oh wait I got into he vluee screen

Maybe

Changed it to csm and not uefi

Did that and it went back to black screen

Got to the log in screen for a moment
Blue screened and crashed

Now I'm somehow missing files

Ugh

Idk why this is so messed up

[livid idol]

If you could get into recovery mode it would be easy to fix, but if you can't you'll need a usb to fix this

[rugged thunder]

Also almost every time I try an option I gotta reset CMOS for the GPU to output anything

[rugged thunder]

Recovery environment?

[livid idol]

Yes

[rugged thunder]

Somehow have gotten to the login screen

For more then 5 seconds

Making me recreate the pin

[livid idol]

If you can get into windows run an admin command prompt and do these commands:
sfc /scannow
dism /online /cleanup-image /checkhealth

[livid idol]

That's expected since the secure boot mode changed when the bios updated

It's a security feature to keep people from stealing your drive and booting it on another pc

[rugged thunder]

"you must be an administrator to use the sfc utility"

Can't run either of these

Is there a way to just reinstall windows right here, just for a clean slate

Or what

If that's an option

I'd only lose game downloads on the nvme which is whatever

[livid idol]

You have to run the command as an admin

Right click the start button, terminal (admin)

You could do a PC reset (with a keep files option so you don't lose stuff) but if it's working now there shouldn't be a need

[rugged thunder]

Alright

Hoping windows is fine, idk why bios would be this buggy(?)

If that's even a correct way to state it

"No component store corruption detected."

I can shut down, power on and get back into windows again

Finally

Would it be safe to install the new cpu?

[livid idol]

Should be yes

[rugged thunder]

Just gotta download drivers for my GPU

Adrenaline didn't have any for the CPU

[livid idol]

Yeah Adrenalin is only for the GPU. CPUs don't need drivers, only the chipset does and since you didn't change that you're fine.

[rugged thunder]

Alright

Thanks alot for the help

Way too dumb to figure it out on my own

[livid idol]

Glad you got it working in the end at least

That was certainly a lot harder than it needed to be lol

[rugged thunder]

Yeah

Earlier I pulled on the cooler so hard the damn CPU came off with it

Thankfully it was straight up, so somehow nothing was damaged

Too much thermal paste

[livid idol]

Oh yeah the AM4 curse

[rugged thunder]

Noctua's box recommended way too much

It recommends like

5 blobs

[livid idol]

So in the future the trick with AM4 is to twist the cooler before you pull it off

The retention bar is really bad at its job

[rugged thunder]

granted this CPU will probably never leave it's socket

I hope AM5 is better in that area

Me being mad didn't exactly help the situation

[livid idol]

It is. They switched to a LGA socket for AM5 so it has a cover holding it down.

[rugged thunder]

I thought the 5800x3D didn't go over 3500mhz, so why is it saying 4000mhz lol

Or was that updated

[rugged thunder]

Sounds 10x better

[livid idol]

3.5GHz is the base clock, it'll turbo higher

[rugged thunder]

Ah alright

Gonna do a stress test for cooling

[livid idol]

The official max boost speed is 4.5GHz

[rugged thunder]

Gotcha

Gonna just do 3Dmark

So I can clean up this mess while it runs

Spilled alcohol on my floor

I made the bold assumption before this that the redux would be good enough for this CPU

My room is usually cool

[livid idol]

Which redux? NH-U12S? That's the hottest AM4 chip that exists that you have there

Luckily it won't be THAT hot when gaming, only when stressing it like that benchmark

[rugged thunder]

Believe so yeah

During 3D mark the highest I saw it go was 76°

[livid idol]

Oh 76 is icy for that chip

[rugged thunder]

Yeah cold room helps lol

I won't be playing games when it's 90° outside

[livid idol]

Anything under 80 and it's at full boost speeds

[rugged thunder]

So I think I'll be fine

I'll probably undervolt it

I hear that usually helps

(I'll follow a guide on it)

[livid idol]

They actually lock the voltage on the X3D chips

You can use curve optimizer to do a little though

[rugged thunder]

Ah

[livid idol]

(which is a recent development)

[rugged thunder]

Maybe I finally won't stutter for no reason in cold war

(won't play it anyways)

I'll look into that curve optimizer

Anything that gets my chip cooler for free I'll do

I don't really wanna buy an aio or whatnot

[livid idol]

Yeah you shouldn't need an AIO (says the guy with a 420mm on his 5800x)

[rugged thunder]

There's probably a dude out there with an aio on his 3600

Hell my friend had one on a 10400

[livid idol]

I've seen them here lol

[rugged thunder]

He said it "looks cool"

[livid idol]

"Is this $250 corsair aio enough for my 7600?"

[rugged thunder]

Better bump it to $300 tbh

[livid idol]

Sadly yes that brand just keeps going up

[rugged thunder]

Got this redux for Xmas don't complain

My case is Corsair, it's just okay

Haven't had a better case but this is my second one so

[livid idol]

I have yet to encounter a perfect case

That won't stop me from looking

[rugged thunder]

He will browse Amazon daily

My 6800 barely fits in this case

Think it's like an inch of clearance

[livid idol]

I'm currently at 6 different cases. My current one has worked the best so far... or so I would say if it actually fit a 420mm as advertised

[rugged thunder]

The listing didn't lie I'll give it 4 stars

I can't really see myself needing much from a case

It sits under my desk it doesn't need to look good

The lights on the GPU annoy me but I'm too lazy to figure it out

[livid idol]

Oh that's an easy one, openrgb

It will detect almost everything from every brand

Without dealing with all the bloat that comes with first party apps

[rugged thunder]

Don't know if I have the proper cable in my GPU but I'll look into it

Sorta tempted to just reinstall windows for the clean slate

[livid idol]

The GPU shouldn't need a cable for the rgb

[rugged thunder]

But do I really wanna wait hours for it

[livid idol]

A PC reset takes about 15 minutes tbh

[rugged thunder]

If I go out tomorrow I probably will

[livid idol]

It's reinstalling everything that takes a while

[rugged thunder]

I just want clean windows 11

No damned hyperx hub

That messed up my lights

(I just make it red it ain't that hard)

It'll probably help with any lingering issues I could have

[livid idol]

It could be worse. It could be iCue. I've seen iCue take 100% of a CPU core just to do a simple "breathing" effect on 9 fans.

[rugged thunder]

Takes a lot to breath smh

My 5800x3d exploding because I tried to put a funny image on the $300 aio

[odd siren]

iCUE moment

[rugged thunder]

Icue already sounds like a kind of pill you take

If I could afford it, I'd get one of those nice wireless Logitech keyboards so I only need one software

But they're like $200 and loud

[livid idol]

Do what I do and install the software only long enough to set the onboard profiles, then uninstall

[rugged thunder]

I just want the red LEDs on my keyboard to fit the key caps please we don't need a software for it

[livid idol]

I haven't installed logi software in years, through several pc reinstalls

[rugged thunder]

Logitech thinks it's funny to make my dpi randomly go from 800 to 1200 mid game

[livid idol]

"but we need to track you!... I mean how you use our software!"

[rugged thunder]

Opera moment

Why does Logitech need my location

Corsair has asked to gain access to your webcam

[rugged thunder]

Started PC this morning
Started blue screening again

Gonna just reinstall windows

[torpid garden]

I also like to idle the system with the fan unplugged until the cpu gets hot, can make it easier.

It's also very easy to crack the paste off at -30

[keen nacelle]

What ram you using?

[rugged thunder]

Just some Corsair ram

3200mhz ram

I already reinstalled windows, everything's fine now

[keen nacelle]

Could be a case of mismatched dies in the same kit if it continues happening

[rugged thunder]

I think it was the bios that messed up my windows installs

Never had these issues before I updated the bios

[keen nacelle]

Ah alright

[rugged thunder]

Reinstalled windows and now it's fine

Small setback but whatever

[keen nacelle]

Well, did you enable xmp last time you were in bios?

[rugged thunder]

I don't keep personal files on my PC

[rugged thunder]

I did on the new install, old is all had it too

Just to enable rebar and what not

That thing that keys the CPU and GPU contact more efficiently or somethin

Should be all good now, haven't had issues since the reinstall

Granted all I've done is change some settings and download a browser

I'd get 3600mhz ram but I'm pretty sure the small boost aint worth it

If there even is one

[candid fractal]

i am a little confused..... assuming,, I am building a gaming pc right now, so as a budget pc, i will buy my graphics card from previous nvidia series like 2000, 3000,, or i will go for 4000 series ?

because the upper 2000 3000 series gpus match the low end 4000 gpus

for example mmy gpu budget is $300
so what i should go for ?

[vital oriole]

for $300, assuming gaming. you could get radeon 6700 instead of those nvidia stuff

and that's untrue to an extent, 4060 and 4060ti offers the exact same performance as 3060 and 3060ti

4070 isn't low end, though it matches 3080 in performance at a cost of $600, which isn't a good price to be frank

[candid fractal]

ohhk, i have to look into amd cards too, thanks sir !

[heady turtle]

Nvidia has not been competitive for a while tbh it's very sad

[lone pond]

used Nvidia isn't half bad tbh

my only gripe is that used 30 series is a little low on memory. but if the price is right then who cares

[oak rivet]

3080 10gb and upwards has enough tbh

3060 12gb from the lower stack

[lone pond]

10GB is fine for 1440p for now, but I'd question how it will do long term

[lone pond]

my problem with the 3060 12GB is that it's only a few dollars less expensive than the 3060 ti usually

[random walrus]

The 8gb on the 3060ti is also fine for 1440p in my experience

Haven't run into any vram issues

6700xt exists though which unless you need cuda cores is probably better

Wait maybe tensor cores

Whichever ones are the AI accelerators

[lone pond]

for most games absolutely, but that's because most games haven't come out in the last 1-2 years. also doesn't take into account future titles. I ran into vram issues a few times on my 3070 ti. turning on DLSS fixed it because lower render res go brrr, but if I'm already at the point where I'm using DLSS as a crutch then idk how long that's going to work out. can always drop texture quality, but that's dumb. textures are basically a free image quality button if you have the vram. the performance hit is marginal if you do

[lone pond]

tensor is for AI, but you also need Cuda for a lot of professional stuff

including a lot of AI/ML as it were

[random walrus]

A lot of programs are starting to support AMD for those uses though which is good to hear

I think tensor is still quite a bit ahead for AI

[lone pond]

yes, rocm putting in work

[lone pond]

MI300 is supposedly going to be vastly superior to Hopper's hardware, but it remains to be seen if the software side of things will be competitive

[random walrus]

Interesting

[lone pond]

athough for more prosumer rather than datacenter stuff I'm not sure how they compare to Nvidia

probably worse tbh lol

although maybe some Turin AI threadripper spinoff can handle that... idk

[molten river]

what kind of voltage do i have to put---

What voltage is adequate, or do I not have to put any voltage./

Can someone help me tell if I'm right or wrong? please and thanks.

[livid idol]

Voltage doesn't do much of anything. It's the power target you want to max out.

[oak rivet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8Lcjq2Zc_s

amd saying no comment instead of simply denying it does not help their case

[vital oriole]

when amd does it it's a big problem huh

[oak rivet]

nvidia was clear they do nothing of these sort

[gleaming tundra]

Doupoly

[livid idol]

We all know there's no such thing as a perfect company. You can only pick what you feel is the lesser of two evils.

[lone pond]

as far as I know there isn't actually any evidence of this though... outside of Radeon marketing being incompetent and not being able to give a straightforward answer

[livid idol]

So far it's all inferences yes. AMD has simply declined to comment at this point. It doesn't look good but we definitely don't have the whole story.

At least I haven't heard of any game devs confirming any such contractual clause

It's easy to implement DLSS in UE5 games since it's just a toggle when they build it, but in house engines and others aren't as easy. It would be harder to push out games with multiple technologies.

[lone pond]

the initial article sparking all of this was just a bunch of seemingly arbitrarily chosen games that supported FSR and didn't support DLSS, which seems pretty spurious imo. especially considering there are also plenty of Nvidia sponsored titles that support DLSS and not FSR or XeSS. I lean towards it probably being the slow news cycle after RTX 4060 launch spawning new ragebait articles

imo it's likely just another case of Radeon marketing being abysmal lol

[livid idol]

All very possible

[odd siren]

To me it just seems like the latest clickbait for tech reviewers to latch to

Money talks, and people are really overthinking this imo

[vital oriole]

yep

People are overthinking, that's all there is to me too

AMD only titles are instantly outnumbered by nvidia dlss equipped ones

I don't understand it being an issue lol

Sure being able to use all technology is cool, but getting salty over just one kind of upscaling being absent is weird

[oak rivet]

Problem is bad fsr and it being the only option

And this just run native doesn't apply anymore for the turing gpus

[vital oriole]

FSR isn't totally bad, it depends on the game's implementation tbh

[oak rivet]

Also the amd sponsored titles tend to be heavily cpu limited for some reason

Frame generation would massively help

[vital oriole]

The amount of amd sponsored titles are small compared to the hundreds of dlss equipped games tho

Having one less dlss title doesn't end the world or something

[oak rivet]

Yeah but Amd should just say no if they didn't do this anti consumer thing

[vital oriole]

I agree with that at least, amd's abysmal communication is making everyone think all ways

[oak rivet]

Credit where its due Nvidia made it crystal clear they do nothing of that sort and devs are free to put other upscalers in

Probably also helps their upscaler is simply superior atm

[vital oriole]

I suppose if amd said the same as nvidia people would also be ok with it

Still some gonna be unhappy cuz fsr inferior, naturally

[oak rivet]

Also raises eyebrows

Had dlss but got removed after the amd sponsorship

[odd siren]

You could just turn settings down, and run things without upscaling and use native

Instead people be whining like it's no tomorrow

Again money talks, if devs want to take the money and make the call, no one can stop this sort of behaviour

You could point fingers at all sorts of other under the table, left or right handed, one sided bs practices that either AMD or Nvidia or even Intel has done to give themselves an edge

It's just another flavour of the week lmao

[livid idol]

DLSS is harder to implement on anything that isn't UE5

[fringe scroll]

Yeah, I've played some games where dlss looked better than native

Thats coming from an amd fan boy lmfao

[odd siren]

Again it's still whining

It's like going to an ice cream shop and complaining they don't have a caramel mint flavour

Like, ok they don't, but it's not gonna ruin the experience

[livid idol]

You have to look at still frames side by side to see anything wrong with FSR in my experience

[fringe scroll]

Eh depends on the game

Could just be my monitor tho

[livid idol]

In motion, especially at higher fps, it's almost unnoticeable

[fringe scroll]

Yeah ofc lol

[odd siren]

Maybe it's me, I've honestly barely EVER cared about upscaling

[fringe scroll]

Yeah

Most of the time I don't use it

[livid idol]

Yes there's the occasional bad implementation of FSR, just like there was the occasional bad implementation of Freesync

[fringe scroll]

But now that I can it's cool to try lmao

[fringe scroll]

Mhmm

[odd siren]

Ya it's cool to use if you have it but objectively speaking it shouldn't be a sour grapes change for a game imo

[livid idol]

The games with bad FSR probably saw how much effort it would take to add DLSS, decided the drag and drop approach to FSR was easier, and didn't really test it

[odd siren]

And frankly if you can't run in 1080p at a minimum without like, frame gen on any current card? Game is absolute trash and deserves the bad reviews it would get

[fringe scroll]

Yeah fr

[livid idol]

cough cough hogwarts cough

[fringe scroll]

Lmfao

[fringe scroll]

Any new games people are complaining about

That are hard to run but look the same as 2 years ago

[livid idol]

Besides ones like halo that get texture issues that turn a bush into a blob of ground up grass?

[oak rivet]

The thing is in motion fences flicker a lot with fsr soo it's more noticeable

[uncut spoke]

Anyone know why I can't see my temperature sensors or change my rgb on my gpu?

[marsh hollow]

fix? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/844680889316540457/1126055389608300556/IMG_0146.mov

[uncut spoke]

What is that?

It's just you logging into windows

[livid idol]

I'm guessing you've got an EVGA or founders GPU if you're trying to use PX1. Hwinfo will list out all available sensors, PX1 will try to use ICX sensors which not all GPUs have, even EVGA ones.

[livid idol]

?ddu

[neat venture]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[marsh hollow]

I’ve done that already over and over again

Nothing yet

I used to get it more however it’s lesser with that

[livid idol]

I'm assuming the audio is running though the GPU via HDMI or DP

The next thing to check would be if you have a bad cable or port

Try different ones of each on both the GPU and monitor

[marsh hollow]

I didn’t really get from HDMI

It’s likely the DP port or cable is bad

I have to reuse the GPU in a flip and add a 3060 in this build

[uncut spoke]

Yeah evga ftw3 ultra can I also change my rgb too?

[marsh hollow]

I’m gonna buy a new DP port and test it

And I have a new power cable lying around as well

[livid idol]

Hmm that one is supposed to have ICX and a RGB logo. Maybe you should try DDU too, and make sure you're on the latest versions of PX1 and Nvidia drivers.

[lone pond]

hey will an rx 6700xt paired with an i5-11600k work at 600w be quiet 80 plus gold psu?

[livid idol]

Yep those will all work just fine together

[lone pond]

ok ty

i was worried because i seen that the recomended psu was 650w

and some other websites like what psu told me that the recomended psu was 600w

[uncut spoke]

It looks like the driver I was on didn't have any support for icx I updated to driver 536.40 and it seems to work great now I have rgb and my temperature sensors

[sharp hedge]

Yo I just bought a computer It has a Eyzen-0

Ryzen 5 2600x

and a RX 580

is that alr?

[livid idol]

Which RX 580? 4GB or 8GB?

[winged minnow]

https://youtube.com/shorts/ig6LVs6jjoE?feature=share

is this safe

am on laptop

[livid idol]

It's literally just overclocking. Those scanners are only useful as a starting point for a real overclock.
You'd be better off installing MSI Afterburner.

[winged minnow]

the thing am on laptop

idk if it will overheat\

[livid idol]

Yeah and not all laptops will support overclocking

The heat can be solved with a little undervolting. Try throttlestop for that.

[hasty monolith]

My friend recently got a pc with 5600g and 3060 does he need to ddu the intregated graphics

To use the 3060

[keen nacelle]

No

[uncut spoke]

Is this okay?

Or normal

[odd siren]

Not sure what you're asking

[livid idol]

"Is this ok or normal"
Umm. I'm gonna go with ok.

But fr the GPU has a zero rpm mode when it's under no or low load

[uncut spoke]

I'm just now noticing it because the vertical gpu mount I'm dumb sorry

[odd siren]

No one's calling you dumb we just needed context 💀

It's fine, just was confusing to understand

[sinful root]

Why would a 3060 be the co processer in a UHD system

[livid idol]

https://www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia/term/graphics-coprocessor

[sinful root]

Ty

[wheat crag]

What’s the best 4080 card?

[fringe scroll]

They're all overbuilt

But

Prob stric or the asus noctua card

Or hall of fame

Or literally any of them

[random walrus]

the cheapest

[odd siren]

The XTX

🗿

[wheat crag]

The 4080 xtx is great

[oak rivet]

Best 4080 is probably cheapest 4090

[blissful lion]

Is 3060ti better than 6750xt?

[lone pond]

in ray tracing, yes. otherwise no

[blissful lion]

I see . 6750xt is better thank you

[finite vortex]

on the fence about getting either a 4080 or 7900 xtx any suggestions ?

[odd siren]

XTX between the two imo

[wheat crag]

The cheaper one is the better one

[lone pond]

^

[fringe scroll]

I only answered like this cause he asked for the best🗿

[neat ledge]

is rx 6750xt good with core i5 8400

[lone pond]

depends on the games you play

my 9400 was bottlenecking my 3060 in some games, but others the 3060 wanted to unsubscribe from life whilst my CPU was chilling

[fading glacier]

unsubscribe hahahaha

[keen nacelle]

Overall it's OK

[rustic pulsar]

Alright I got a small issue. My GPU HDMI is not outputting anything. I tried other monitors and cables, nothing. DP works fine. hdmi worked fine before I put it in the case. Any ideas? The connection in the gpu hdmi port does feel a little loose, maybe it needs to be screwed in again?

[livid idol]

Sounds like it got bumped somehow when it got put in the case but that's a tough one

[rustic pulsar]

any fix?

[livid idol]

Maybe start with the usual suspects, reseat GPU, DDU, things like that

[rustic pulsar]

ill give it a shot, new build so no drivers yet. Buts its almost 3am... tommorow

[oak rivet]

really does

i used the 4090 with a 10400f in portal rtx

and the 4090 was the one which is seething

[blissful lion]

Can 6750xt run on triple monitor? Like 2 1440p and 1 1080p

[odd siren]

It'll run 3 monitors

For games? Not well

[heady turtle]

as long as youre only gaming on one of them definitly

[rain aspen]

Hi!

How good is the Yeston Radeon RX 6800 XT 16GB ???

600$ CAD rebate

I don't know that brand, neither AMD for instance 😜

[keen nacelle]

Its fine

[livid idol]

It's a 6800 XT, which is good, with a decent cooler and a pretty shroud design

[rain aspen]

pretty design, yeah...

weird that I can't find something more 'clean' at a better price...

Should I wait tomorrow to ckech for Prime day special, or that Yeston deal may disapear during the night????

[heady turtle]

That's a nice price

[heady turtle]

I think that's a pretty good price, if something comes better tomorrow (doubtful) you could always cancel the yeston

[rain aspen]

I'm less affraid about the XFX Speedster SWFT 319 AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT, on amazon...

when you don't know the brand...

[heady turtle]

Yestons fine, gamers nexus has done multiple reviews on yeston cards

They're just not as well known in the western market

[dreamy laurel]

almost any model for 6800xt is fine except for msi mech

avoid msi mech

[fringe scroll]

Ew they make a mech 6800xt

How does that even

Work

[fading glacier]

well on the 6800xt yeah, but there is a lot of heat issues reported on reddit with the 3080 variant, flimsy cooler for that

ik, reddit, but its true that the cooler is pretty thin for a 3080

[heady turtle]

Well the 6800xt one was fine

[fading glacier]

yeah the 6800 is fine

still remember that time when the yeston 3080 went eveyrime on sale on newegg, almost bought one

the cute pet case tho is such a rarity that i want someday, just for the bragging rigths xD

[rain aspen]

I just look a video on YouTube, the 6800 xt is often better than a 4070 😮😮😮

[keen nacelle]

yes

[fading glacier]

thats why the 40 series (excluding the high end) were a flop

stagnation

[solid glacier]

Mic isnt working for rainbow six siege and iv checked everything including inputs from steam game etc\

[livid idol]

What mic? What output are you plugged into?

[vital oriole]

hence excluding high end

[oak rivet]

damn i misread for including 💀

[heady turtle]

Nvidia being toxic to board partners again

https://tenor.com/view/dance-spongebob-current-mood-gif-19939062

[wheat crag]

Wireless gpu, now the motherboards might melt

[fading glacier]

not on a 4070

[lone pond]

^

the powerplanes on good motherboards are usually pretty beefy. probs not an issue on lower power draw cards like the 4070

[odd siren]

Feelsbadman for itx builds with sandwich layouts

[fringe scroll]

Yeah I posted it in general yesterday

It's wild really

https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/14vuuy5/nvidia_allegedly_threatening_supply_limits_or/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=2

[odd siren]

I can fully see one of them crossing the bench

[lone pond]

EVGA left for a reason ig

it's a shame they seem to be closing up shop :(

[odd siren]

And just not caring

[fading glacier]

so evga couldnt stay alive without gpus?

sad to hear that

hahahaha this is pure gold xD

[livid idol]

EVGA is still making PSUs, which we can assume are their most profitable product series. But GPUs are done and motherboards too from what I've seen.
This would be a pretty standard business move. Dump the least profitable products in favor of higher profit margins, and downsize to cut costs.

[vital oriole]

Tho curiously

Their new 80+ gold full modular psu release, the 850 and 1000 XC has just 3 years of warranty

[livid idol]

That is worrying but it could simply be a sign that they're uncertain about the future.

[vital oriole]

That's the main point yeah

It's concerning

[half oriole]

Motherboards are still going

That was a rumor

[livid idol]

Yeah I knew it was a rumor and EVGA denied it. It's hard to take a corporation at their word, but that might just be me.

[rain aspen]

Gigaabyte VS ASRock? (my mobo is Gigabyte)

my girlfriend is affraid of the price of the 6800 xt... 😭

[livid idol]

https://tenor.com/view/it-depends-on-the-situation-tyler-oakley-it-depends-situational-nervous-gif-20142696

[rain aspen]

@livid idol https://www.newegg.ca/gigabyte-gv-r675xtgaming-oc-12gd/p/N82E16814932519 VS
https://www.amazon.ca/-/fr/Gaming-graphique-ventilateurs-FreeSync-DirectX/dp/B09YHTMKL2/ref=sr_1_2?__mk_fr_CA=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&crid=2207H1U3AYIL9&keywords=6750+xt&qid=1689100948&sprefix=6750+xt%2Caps%2C92&sr=8-2&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.320d95fa-54fe-43a9-b26a-8c3843032e68
VS
https://www.newegg.ca/asrock-radeon-rx-6750-xt-rx6750xt-clp-12go/p/N82E16814930071?Description=rx 6750 xt&cm_re=rx_6750 xt-_-14-930-071-_-Product

i'm tired at looking for a new graphic card 😪😪😪😒😒😒😤😤😤

[odd siren]

The cheaper one is the winner

Or rather the cheapest one

[fading glacier]

tell her that is your money not hers xD

you should always buy thing with your own hard earned money, that way no one can say a thing about it nor you can point fingers at anyone but yourself later if you have regrets, thats my motto

[solid glacier]

@livid idol Hey anything on sale rn that i should upgrade to?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bkq9Q6 heres my specs

i guess i can grab that 5800x

[lone pond]

upgrading from a 12700k to a 5800x

mate, that's a sidegrade at best, and a downgrade more often than not

[solid glacier]

The 3d one I mean

Latest one thag Jsut came out

[fringe scroll]

Still stupid

[keen nacelle]

Would not recommend

5800x3d is very similarly priced to the 13600k, which is similarly performing, and wouldn't require a new motherboard

[vital oriole]

I would not go for am4

Especially since you're already on 1700

Just grab 13600K lol

7800X3D will demand you get ddr5 if you don't already, and a new board

5800X3D+board will also still cost more than getting 13600K

If you use ddr4

[fringe scroll]

Or just stick with the 12700k its a great chip

12700k to 13600k is still dumb imo

[keen nacelle]

Seconded

[random walrus]

Only get 5600/5800x3d if you already have an am4 mobo and want to squeeze one last upgrade out of it

[solid glacier]

So donmt get this?

i seen videos theres a big fps boost with that than from my cpu

warzone wise

[distant osprey]

Hey anyone know a specific site for GPU thermal pads or should I just shop off Amazon/Newegg?

[vital oriole]

it all depends on your gpu honestly

not all gpus use same pad thickness

[distant osprey]

I figured as much but I was mainly unsure if there was a recommended brand or not to go with

[odd siren]

Yeah, not a good idea

Side grade

[solid glacier]

whatabout this

[odd siren]

Still not really an upgrade per se

You gain some 10-20% fps but multicore doesn't really change

Maybe a little better? But a long way either way from what's considered genuine improvement

Put it this way, it's a difference that would be hard to notice with your own two eyes when playing any games

[solid glacier]

this guy gets 300 fps on 1440p comp settings with a 7900xtx and his 7800x3d on warzone

this is what im pushing for so i might just get the 7900xtx and see what my fps is like

[odd siren]

Cod is amd friendly tho

You won't get those gains elsewhere

[vital oriole]

^

amd friendly cause it abuses the cpu

so less cpu overhead benefits it

[solid glacier]

ahh

i might do it though cause i play alot of cod

I forgot I had this

Didn’t even put it on

Should i put it on>

not sure where the screws are for it though...

[balmy magnet]

likely it uses the same screws as the bracket on the board when you remove that

[vital oriole]

^

You use the existing screws

[balmy magnet]

i know DeBauer's vid showed that his came w/ its own screws bc the Intel mount's screws would not fit

[solid glacier]

Bracket? oh my stock holding the cpu

[balmy magnet]

i have the grey one like you @solid glacier but i have not installed bc i am waiting til i get a Z790 mobo

yeah that, the piece holding the CPU in place, you will reuse the screws

[solid glacier]

gonna be a hastle bc i have a huge cpu cooler to take off xD

[balmy magnet]

that's why i am waiting til i get my new board lol

this way i only have to do this once, and not remove a bunch of stuff from the back of the case as well to get to back of the board

[solid glacier]

i only gatta remove the cpu cooler i dont think i got anything in the back

[balmy magnet]

you have to get to the bracket on the back tho

[solid glacier]

oh yeaa

im not using the original cpu cooler btrw

i got a AK

so the stock thing thats holding in my cpu i have to take that back bracket off or my cpu cooler bracket..?

[balmy magnet]

i can remove if no good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag3_GmLO_dM

[solid glacier]

he doesnt got a bracket on the back that he removes

[balmy magnet]

yes he does, the backplate stays on the back, he even mentions it

i said bracket but it's a backplate

[solid glacier]

ohh yea so i dont remove that? it just stays on

[balmy magnet]

yes it stays on, bc that is what the frame attaches to w/ the screws

[solid glacier]

ight cool so i dont gatta touch taht at all then

i jsutr remove the oringal thing holindg my cpu in and boom

[balmy magnet]

if the mobo is in a case already tho and you undo the screws that backplate might move and then you're gonna have a heck of a time lol

[solid glacier]

yea its in a case my whole pc is already setup lol

i dont think it will move

[fading glacier]

are you that desperate for a couple more fps on cod? you have quite a really great pc rn, as other pointed out most of the stuff is sidegrade, and even the upgrades are pretty minor for the money invested.

[hazy steeple]

gpu comes in today

case wont be coming in till probly sometime this weekend or tuesday

[lone pond]

cheers! enjoy the new kit!

[solid glacier]

i mean from 118 fps to 300 is more than a "Couple" fps

[hazy steeple]

Ok so my pc case in a pain in the side to put together. Would my rig be okay if I just left the front glass panel off?

I need to buy a small little bracket to put below my gpu anyways

[heady turtle]

i mean it probably wouldnt just stops dust and other stuff going in as easy, if you have a pet that roams though id leave it on

[hazy steeple]

Well I have 3 dogs. But they're very rarely ever in my room. So I'll try to put back on but it's still a pain

[hazy steeple]

all i gotta say is im ready for pc heaven. and thats when my new case comes in

[hazy steeple]

whats the best preset for the 7900 xt as in like gpu tuning?

do i want to undervolt, overclock or chose a different setting?

like ik messing with it instead of doing presets is better but for now i dont think i can do that lol

[heady turtle]

If you haven't got it yet, I'd save ~ 150-200$ and get a 6950xt instead but usually you want to overclock then undervolt the oc

[hazy steeple]

that sounds complicated lol so overclock preset then undervolt it

do you know by how much or would it just have to be something to mess with

[heady turtle]

Presets are frankly just bad, do it yourself for best results

[hazy steeple]

ah

ok

[hazy steeple]

I bought a bracket for holding the gpu thats expected by Saturday

Do you think I should something under there for the time being or will it be fine?

[heady turtle]

It'll be fine

[hazy steeple]

ok good

[young crystal]

hey so how important is PCIe x#

[vital oriole]

it's the amount of lanes of pcie

its importance depends on the purpose and devices you're using tbh

and the pcie version

[young crystal]

no but i mean for motherboardxcard compatablitity

[vital oriole]

ah nope

[young crystal]

i see no physical difference

oh ok

[vital oriole]

pcie is forward and backwards compatible lol

just make sure it has enough bandwidth for stuff you're gonna use

[young crystal]

its more of "this motherboard is fast, your card can be this fast to use it all"

[vital oriole]

so to put it simply

pcie 3.0 and above

any gpus will work with no limitations

any moderm boards has pcie 4.0 these days though

like lga 1700 and am5

[young crystal]

oh i mean the like x8 or x16 spec i have no idea what it is

oh maybe im an idiot nvm thats the size of the connector

[young crystal]

cpu cooler? looks familiar and dope but i forget the name

[vital oriole]

it's not always the size lel

you can have full slot with just 8 lanes

each mobos has different configs

so do read their specs

[young crystal]

swag

[half oriole]

x8/x16 are just data bandwidth difference ~ physically x8 just has less data pins

[livid idol]

The confusion really kicks in when you see a GPU that has a x16 interface but only runs in x4 mode (6500 XT 💀)

[vital oriole]

lmao

[hazy steeple]

its a deepcool aio lemme find it real quick

its a deepcool ls720

[young crystal]

you like it?

[livid idol]

That's one of the very best you can get on Intel LGA1700

[young crystal]

parts picker says compatible with 7700x soooo? thinking about the LS520 though because my current case wont fit the 720

[livid idol]

Consider the Liquid Freezer II for AMD, it has an offset mounting bracket that works wonders on hot spots

[young crystal]

lemme look

seems good, price isn't egregious either

added to my list

[odd siren]

You don't need anything that serious, a dual tower cooler is more than enough

Go 7700 and you can even just use the stock cooler without any concerns

Zen 4's problem being hot is not the cooling power but the thick IHS restricting heat transfer

So even the most overkill stuff won't really do anything more than basic cooling without something like a delid (remove the ihs)

[livid idol]

The 7700 non-x is just a lower power version of the same chip, so it runs cooler and performs nearly identical

[odd siren]

Zen 4 also has eco mode, which you can use with curve optimiser to make it perform the same as the 7700x 1 to 1

Otherwise it's only a couple % slower at best

I encourage this as the savings difference is a good 50, 60$ here? For really the same outcome within margin of error

[young crystal]

encourage 7700 non x over the x?

[livid idol]

Yes 2% faster and running hotter isn't worth the extra $50

Go 7700

[young crystal]

splendid

[livid idol]

Then you don't even need to consider liquid cooling, a basic air cooler would be more than enough

[young crystal]

you said it comes with a stock cooler? how do i make sure of that?

[livid idol]

All of the 7700s in retail boxes should come with one

The only exception would be OEM packaged ones and those are rare

[odd siren]

Absolutely

The stock cooler alone is worth $20

[hazy steeple]

its not bad i never really experienced any kind of issue with it

although i have no clue if its working properly or if its actually doing anything its fairly good for what it is

only way i see it is as long as my pc doesnt explode im chillin

[young crystal]

relate

[livid idol]

The savings come from not needing to buy a cooler

Or if you do, getting a $20 one instead of a $60 one

[young crystal]

understood

[naive bane]

Me wanna replace thermal paste to gpu

Is that risky

[livid idol]

Nah it's pretty easy

[naive bane]

Is that only t paste or pads too

[livid idol]

Only the paste, if you can get the cooler off without tearing the pads

You'd usually only do a pad swap on really high end cards like a 3090

[naive bane]

I have t paste tube taht is 7yo

Is that k

[livid idol]

It does expire and dry out, I'd say it's too old

[naive bane]

I have 2080ti asus o11g strix

Still safe?

[livid idol]

Safe to repaste or safe to use that old paste? Because your paste is probably dried out. I try not to use paste more than about 2 years old sitting on a shelf once it's open.

[naive bane]

To repaate

Repaste

[livid idol]

Yes it'll be safe to repaste it

[naive bane]

No need to mess with the pads?

[livid idol]

If you're careful when you pull the cooler off the pads should be ok

[naive bane]

Is this ok to use

[livid idol]

That corsair paste is not very good

If you can find arctic MX-4 that's usually the best for the price

MX-6 is the new model, it's better by a few degrees.

[naive bane]

8 gram is enough?

[half oriole]

8 grams is enough for 16-24 applications

[livid idol]

Maybe a few less than that on a larger GPU die like their 2080 ti but yeah.
8g is plenty.

[half oriole]

if manually smearing it'll do 16

[odd siren]

Would love to know how to get 16 applications out of a large tube like that

That's a broad af generalisation

Both in ihs/die assumptions and people's quality of work lol

[half oriole]

put on die

smear with thumb

not very hard

i could do this 16 times with an AM4 IHS

2080ti die is shorter, just as wide iirc

[odd siren]

That's better, and believable

Lol

[heady turtle]

Smearing your paste with your hand sounds like a nightmare to accidentally pasting your furniture or clothing

[half oriole]

meh

[fading glacier]

who uses his thumb to smear tthermal paste? o.O

use an old credit card, less messy

[hot folio]

Not sure about you, but I got better things to smear with my credit card

[sonic mural]

I don't like to use hand to spread thermal paste since the oils on your hands can transfer and could cause thermal conductivity issues in some pastes

[vital oriole]

I use the included spreader

[heady turtle]

Just using the cooler as a spreader

[hazy steeple]

Gpu be runnin smooth. Got a little gpu holder so it won't sag as much

[carmine dune]

@torpid garden @livid idol 🤞

[hot bough]

What in the world is going on in that picture?

[torpid garden]

🤔

[carmine dune]

@wary anvil and I are removing a blown MOSFET on my 3080Ti

Hopefully will save the card. We shall see

[torpid garden]

Fingers crossed

[wary anvil]

Resistances all seem to match

[torpid garden]

Could POST test it with your finger on the core - just have to be careful

[wary anvil]

This thing was a pain to get off, the board ate so much heat before anything flowed

One of the pads stayed behind lol

[torpid garden]

What hot air/nozzle?

[wary anvil]

Metcal

[carmine dune]

I stg we were here heating it for an hour lol

[torpid garden]

fancy

[wary anvil]

The lab is a mess, don't judge

[carmine dune]

Shows it gets used

[torpid garden]

A clean desk is a waste of space

[wary anvil]

There's also an 0201 cap that wasn't held down well enough. Based on the location it was power smoothing for the mosfet

[torpid garden]

Could probe the pads to figure out what it was on

[wary anvil]

Done, vin to ground

One of the fuses is showing high resistance

[torpid garden]

Makes sense, if one of the power stages had a vin-gnd short, would've blown the fuse

[wary anvil]

This one here. I don't think we'd have a replacement on hand

[torpid garden]

I've always just soldered them short, could make use a length of thin wire as a fuse since the card is kinda worth something

[carmine dune]

Sounds reasonable to me

[wary anvil]

Heated tweezer time

[torpid garden]

To remove it? Might be hard even with metcal hot tweezers, easier to just blob solder on it with a big hot tip

[carmine dune]

He's excited about the tweezers lol

"Awh it's not plugged in :( "

He asks how much current they carry @torpid garden

[torpid garden]

I think Z = 20 amps

[wary anvil]

That should handle 20

[carmine dune]

Magic has happened

[half oriole]

i use mx-4, mx-6 and kyronaut = non-issue

smeared with both cpu and gpu, got expected temps

[livid idol]

If you put enough paste you don't need to spread it at all. (It'll be a pain to clean up later though)

[half oriole]

that would be more than enough

enough paste is when its perfectly smeared with my thumb

MX-5 and MX-6 in my experience are a total pain to clean up

MX-5 acts like thermal epoxy in some scenarios

but both of them when exposed to air do the same thing

[vital oriole]

having more than enough is better than not enough anyway

[ivory herald]

2 seconds to spread it & I have neither issues.

[half oriole]

if you have expensive paste its worth it to be spreading it manually

[fading glacier]

we all spread it manually, just not with the bare hands

[livid idol]

I still do a X

But then I still have a square CPU

Not a rectangle or an octopus

[quasi flicker]

Someone said I should get a used 3090 instead of a 4070 if the things I do benefit from CUDA and more VRAM, where should I look for one?

[vital oriole]

ebay, facebook marketplace, hardwareswap discord

[lone pond]

^

[vital oriole]

Do make sure to use paypal goods and services tho

Or local meetup in a public place if it's cash

[solemn panther]

Hardware swap discord.... huh

[fringe scroll]

Yeah they switched

its actually pretty nice

[solemn panther]

Going to join. I need to sell my 3700x@fringe scroll

[hollow coral]

My rc 7900xtx has 3 pcie slots. Do I run 3 cables or 2 with one daisy chained?

[keen nacelle]

3 if you can

would be ideal

[hollow coral]

One cable doesn't seem to seat right

2 are Corsair and one is evea

Evga

[keen nacelle]

NEVER use psu cables from another psu

ever ever ever

[hollow coral]

Oh

[keen nacelle]

that makes psu go boom

and will kill at least your psu, likely your gpu too and possibly more

[hollow coral]

Can I use just one of the Daisy chain ends?

[keen nacelle]

that is miles safer yes

[hollow coral]

Why is it bad to use other cables?

[keen nacelle]

psus have different pinouts

psu cables are specific to that psus and sometimes a few others from the same brand

like corsair RMX, RM, RME and a few others share cables

but never use cables from one brand for a different brands psu

[hollow coral]

Uhg got to entirely redo it then

[keen nacelle]

sata cables are fine to use

since those aren't psu specific

[hollow coral]

Sata should be fine right?

[keen nacelle]

but cpu power, motherboard power, gpu power

[hollow coral]

Ok

[keen nacelle]

I think perif

wait

no not sata

sorry my brain decided not to work right

I'd not use one psus sata cable for another either

[hollow coral]

Will this be fine?

The extra is taped upp

I need 3 for the gpu

[keen nacelle]

it doesn't have to be taped up, no power will be going into it

but yeah that's fine

as long as they all came with that specific psu

[hollow coral]

K

[hollow coral]

Working thanks

[west flax]

PLS ELP

i think something is up with my gpu

[oak rivet]

What happened

[west flax]

do u see all the pixel things

[oak rivet]

Oh you overclocked memory?

[west flax]

no

[oak rivet]

I have a feeling the backside memory is overheating

3090 right?

[west flax]

yeah

first time it's ever happened 2 me

[heady turtle]

Try ddu

Ah actually that looks like mem problem

[dense cliff]

Is anyone here familiar with a crash that happens where the pc boots to a black screen that just says that your gpu doesn't have VBIOS support after restarting three times? I built the pc a couple months ago and haven't used it for a few weeks and now it does it everytime I reboot/boot.

[livid idol]

What model GPU and what vbios version do you have

[flat maple]

those triple 8 cables are pricey

but they seem to be convenient

[rustic pulsar]

update on my weird HDMI not working, so it did work all along. Windows just decided to create a separate desktop, one for the DP and one for the HDMI, and I didnt realize

[vocal current]

So originally I was going to do a second pc for streaming and recording. But could I just put my arc a380 in this second slot for streaming and recording. I have a x570 aorus elite mobo. Just want to take some load off my cpu and main gpu while gaming and recording/streaming.

[half oriole]

yes you can

[keen nacelle]

As long as you have the spare pcie lanes I don't see why not

[vocal current]

Is there an exact way to know how many im using. I have my main gpu. 2 nvme m.2s and a pcie wifi card plugged in atm

[keen nacelle]

Gpu and two nvmes I think uses 24, since gpu is x16 and mvmes are both x4

Unless gpu is running at x8

I dont remember how many x570s have though

[sharp trellis]

Getting 7900xt today, so I am going to benchmark my 3070ti
the question is wich free edition 3dmark I should try to get a "accurate'" result that uses gpu more

or cpu/gpu bound test?

[keen nacelle]

3dmark timespy

[sharp trellis]

Hi bacca, and thanks

the hell is time spy upgrade

bruh so 3dmark base has to be paid...

to get timespy "dlc" for free.

[heady turtle]

Usually motherboards will allow all although sometimes if you're using all m.2 it'll disable some sata ports and vice versa

[keen nacelle]

There's a free version on steam

Demo

[heady turtle]

It's down as a demo ye

[sharp trellis]

Ah, it's good enough for testings yeah?

Nothing "advanced"

[keen nacelle]

Yeah its pretty much identical

It's what a lot of people here use

Me included

[sharp trellis]

I dont see unless i'm blind

[rustic pulsar]

only annoying thing is u cant skip the initial cutscene demo so it takes a bit longer

one sec

[rustic pulsar]

scroll down a bit

[sharp trellis]

OH.

Thank you.

[vocal current]

Information was spotty when I looked into it online. But from what I gather If I occupy that second gpu slot it will drop my main slot down to x8. So might be better off just doing the dual pc setup.

[heady turtle]

Checking the manual should show you if it does, but honestly since you're running a gen 4 capable gpu in a gen 4 slot, pcie 4x8 is the same as 3x16 so you wouldn't loose any perf

[livid idol]

The second x16 slot is only running at 4.0 x4, you've got plenty of lanes open

It takes those 4 lanes from the chipset and not the CPU so it shouldn't affect the top slot

[primal dust]

So I’m reading about the gigabyte 6750 XT and it sounds like it has a prominent coil whine. How loud is “loud” and is it worth considering another model?

[fading glacier]

coil whine is somewhat normal on gpus (not only on amd cards) these days when you make them work, some are louder than others, how loud is loud is up to you.... if its loud enough to bother you then you can rma the card and roll the dice for a less "whiny" card

and by some are louder than others i don't mean a model or brand, every card has its own unique coil whine

[rustic pulsar]

my gpu is making a really quiet, very high pitch buzz. I assume this is coil wine?

[fading glacier]

kinda, thats why its called "whine"

mine does the same when pumping full speed on warzone

but with headphones its like meh

[rustic pulsar]

it does this at idle

sad

[fading glacier]

kinda strange, cause at idle most modern cards are... idle

not even the fans spin

[vital oriole]

Buy a gamer laptop, no coil whine

[fading glacier]

you sure its the card and not the cpu cooler/aio?

[vital oriole]

Jokes aside, yeah coil whine is normal on modern gpus

[rustic pulsar]

yeah its the card

[vital oriole]

Unless it's so loud

[rustic pulsar]

no its really quite but high pitches

[fading glacier]

which card do you have?

also.... fans are spinning?

[rustic pulsar]

4090

[fading glacier]

ohhh

[rustic pulsar]

fans are spinning

[fading glacier]

well, then is not idle

something is making the card work

thus the coil whine

[rustic pulsar]

oh well

[fading glacier]

i had a similar thing when i run the "test" button on gpuz

after the test is done the card is stuck

on work load

[sage jay]

Yeah but then you have an indoor airport

[fading glacier]

had to restart the pc xD for the card to idle again

[vital oriole]

kek that's true

turn on turbo mode and it gets loud

my laptop doesn't have that high pitch noise of usual laptop fans tho

fan tech improved so much it's almost unbelievable

it can spin up to 6900 rpm if i really want it to

[fading glacier]

its like 1 month since the new laptop right?

[vital oriole]

nah just like over a week rn

of me having it

[fading glacier]

haha you love it so much already 😛

[vital oriole]

i mean, it really is one good laptop lol

only not so good is the screen

good colors but response time being bleh makes rapid cursor movements a bit difficult to track

[fading glacier]

ouch

[vital oriole]

mainly white cursors lol

if it's not white i can easily see it

[fading glacier]

at least at home an external screen is always a solution 😛 as long as the performance is there

[vital oriole]

i don't have money or space for a monitor tbh

so i can cope with the slight catch it has

[rustic pulsar]

This is what it sounds like

Idk why it didn’t embed sry

[fading glacier]

yup thats normal coil whine on workload

[rustic pulsar]

how fun

[fading glacier]

if the fans are spinning then the card is working on something

[rustic pulsar]

payed 4 figures for a card that buzzes i love nvidia

[fading glacier]

mine sounds kinda the same

[vital oriole]

30ms response time doesn't seem bad on 60hz

[rustic pulsar]

my roomate is gonna hate me

[vital oriole]

but once i put on 144hz i notice some motion blur? i think that's what they call that

not ghosting

[fading glacier]

ew, tried that webpage with the alien on it? cant remember the name

[vital oriole]

not yet

[fading glacier]

hate motion blur

prefer lower fps instead

[vital oriole]

g-to-g response is 30ms black to white is 20

doesn't seem optimal for high refresh

[fading glacier]

30 gtg :S nope, not optimal for high refresh

60hz it is

[vital oriole]

i don't mind honestly

it's only an issue in some roblox games where i use third person lol

[fading glacier]

yup, unless you play some fps at high competitive level you dont perceive a difference

[vital oriole]

60hz would be happily accepted if I were playing more calm games

otherwise more better

i run roblox at 144

[fading glacier]

try some doom eternal at 60, its painful

[vital oriole]

though dozens of games struggles to hit 100 on roblox lmao

talk about trash engine

[fading glacier]

ikr xD

[vital oriole]

one has it bad where i drop to single digits

idk why but it just did that

no resource streaming, just render everything

[fading glacier]

and it fails to deliver, yup, seen a lot of that

[vital oriole]

lod, what's that

i do see some optimization work on the more popular and well made stuff

but it's also not exactly reliable

[flat maple]

seeing as EVGA quit gpus, in the future i probably would go with the next option, PNY

though not sure i would go with Nvidia

depends

for now what i have works great

[livid idol]

In the future things can change very quickly

[vital oriole]

what if..

nvidia ditches aibs altogether?

since they've always been problematic for the aibs lmao

unhappy about expanding to intel

no more custom gpus

only nvidia founders edition

[oak rivet]

we asians will be shafted

no fe here 🤷‍♂️

[vital oriole]

not really

[livid idol]

AIBs are pretty fed up with nvidia anyway, a bunch of them aren't even making 4060 ti 16GB models

[vital oriole]

nvidia will expand their fe if they have to

if they really want to leave aibs

and make gpus on their own

[oak rivet]

production volume wont be anywhere near

[vital oriole]

asian market is still huge (china especially), not giving it more attention is huge money missing

[oak rivet]

also kills of unique design innovation

[vital oriole]

well they can still have pny make em

pny has always made quadros

[livid idol]

Galax has been pretty compliant with nvidia's demands

[vital oriole]

i know it will kill interesting designs

but nvidia could do it if they want

most aibs are happy to leave

with some being compliant

people will still buy nvidia because of the tech

not looks

people in 90's didn't care how gpus looked as long as they worked

[oak rivet]

this is not the 90s tho 🤷‍♂️

[fading glacier]

shafted? why? maybe in the future we will have more options, not only nvidia and amd... no king rules forever

[oak rivet]

i will say people spending more then 500 on a gpu definetly care a bit

[vital oriole]

if they're forced they will buy the fe

im not defending nvidia btw, just stating their influence in pc market

even if it's all just fe that's available

there's still gonna be buyers

would you want to limit yourself to old hardware if nvidia were to begin making fe gpus only?

if nvidia forces us like this, we will have to comply lel

or go amd

[oak rivet]

no i am just saying here in Asia we just dont get fe products