graphics-cards

[nocturne nest]

i currently have a 6650 XT 8GB and a R7 5800x3D

[odd siren]

Depends if you think you need more or not

[nocturne nest]

Im struggling with a few games

[odd siren]

Games not fast? Games bad? Ok upgrade lol

Make sure your psu is up to the task

[nocturne nest]

How big of a difference would it make?

[odd siren]

Uhhh, something in the realm of like, 30-40%, maybe more?

[nocturne nest]

alrighty

thanks

[odd siren]

Actually maybe a fair bit more than that

More like 50%?

[nocturne nest]

weird

used ones are almost the same price as new

[heady turtle]

They shouldn't be

[lone pond]

used ones are around $450, new is typically $100 or so more

[odd siren]

New 6800XT is $500 rn, xfx and asrock models

[lone pond]

neat

[livid idol]

BRILLIANT solution to the 12VHPWR melting https://youtu.be/gQUyakr44TA

If you can see yellow, it's not in all the way. So simple, yet so perfect.

[solid glacier]

getting 180 fps on 1440p in ROBLOX

..

i should be getting like 800

[wicked hound]

PC Worlds vid also shows that tolerances are pretty bad on 12p. Can easily pull 1mm - 2mm evenly across the connector without it unclipping at all.

[livid idol]

Some roblox games are more demanding than others and you end up hitting an engine limit before any other

Considering it's only meant to run 60 fps consider yourself lucky

[solid glacier]

yae true

[hot bough]

Is that a PSU side solution? I haven't watched the vid yet.

[livid idol]

Both sides, since the connector is the same on both ends

[hot bough]

Oh interesting, can one buy the connector from them or would I need to buy said PSU for it?

[livid idol]

You'll be able to buy the cable separately

It's for ATX 3.0 power supplies only though, since that's the one that has the connector on both ends the same

Instead of using an adapter cable

[hot bough]

I plan to go with a 3.0 PSU just looks far better.

[nocturne nest]

is this a good price for used?

[livid idol]

That's only $40 cheaper than new right now

[nocturne nest]

oh

didnt even look at new yet

[livid idol]

They've been dipping down to $600 pretty regularly

[nocturne nest]

where at

i looked up and no where near 600

[livid idol]

Usually newegg

This is one of the best models, it was $600 last week https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-6950-xt-rx6950xt-pg-16go/p/N82E16814930088

[nocturne nest]

oh

was looking in wrong area

not terrible

What should a used one be?

[livid idol]

Maybe $500 depending on how long it was used

[nocturne nest]

alrighty

thanks

[hot folio]

Anyone know the thermal pad thickness on an Asrock 6950XT OCF?

[swift tide]

Question, do you need a gpu to run a pc or can you run it without it

[hot bough]

Most motherboards won't boot unless it detects a GPU in the bios.

[balmy magnet]

If your CPU has an iGPU (any Intel without "F" on model, or any AMD with "G" on the model) then it will work w/o a dedicated GPU, otherwise you will need to have one installed

[quartz gull]

The 7000 series from amd also has an iGPU

[swift tide]

What do you mean?

[balmy magnet]

Intel i5 12600K has an iGPU, the 12600KF does not; AMD Ryzen 3600X and 5600X do not, the 5700G does

[swift tide]

@balmy magnet So if it doesn’t have a f like the Intel i5-11400?

It doesn’t need a gpu?

[balmy magnet]

correct, it has an iGPU

it's not going to play games as well as an actual GPU but it will get you thru BIOS and into the OS

[swift tide]

Ight thanks

[balmy magnet]

np

[vital oriole]

By the way

With introduction of Ryzen 7000 series

All of the desktop lineup in this generation will have igpu no matter what

No more G skus for now

Of course they're equipped with the most basic version of the igpu as they're only there as a backup

[odd siren]

G skus are coming I thought

Like apu skus

Maybe I misheard that idk

[vital oriole]

I wanna see them return ngl

But without neutered cache

[odd siren]

Eh idrc tbh

780m wasn't an incredible increase

Suppose they had that under OC it probably would be a decent uplift tho

[vital oriole]

ye

And I mean

We don't even have 680M on desktop apus yet

So on desktop at least it will be a big uplift

[odd siren]

680m is good enough imo

[vital oriole]

I'm ok with 680M being put onto the apus

[hasty sphinx]

@bleak coyote Someone in this channel can help you with your 7900xtx perf issues

[bleak coyote]

Everything is installed correctly in pc gpu installed and wired correctly

But any game I play is so choppy and laggy and feels like I’m at 5 fps and under

It’s so delayed and slow

[cyan vault]

Drivers?

[bleak coyote]

?

I installed them

And they are updated

If that’s what ur asking

[hasty sphinx]

fresh windows with fresh install of latest drivers

[cyan vault]

Damn weird

Whats the full specs?

[hasty sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jX4pfv

[cyan vault]

Thermals and everything good?

[hasty sphinx]

yeah

they are where they should be

[cyan vault]

Bios updated?

[hasty sphinx]

yep

[cyan vault]

😭

[hasty sphinx]

yeah, I just don't know if there is some issues with 7900xtx that are unknown to me since I don't keep up with AMD

[cyan vault]

I have one and no issues

[vital oriole]

I would go as far as reinstalling windows

Sometimes windows is the culprit

[hasty sphinx]

it's a fresh install though?

[vital oriole]

Still

A fresh install doesn't guarantee this

Has to redo everything

[hasty sphinx]

Lol he's not gonna like that

[hasty sphinx]

I mean, he put the PC together and then installed windows. You still think it's windows?

[vital oriole]

It could be though

In some rare cases

Is xmp on?

[hasty sphinx]

Hopefully there is less rare cases of 7900xtx perf issues.

[hasty sphinx]

I don't believe so

[vital oriole]

That could be the cause to the stuttering then

[hasty sphinx]

@bleak coyote

[hasty sphinx]

It's not called xmp for amd right?

[vital oriole]

Yep, expo for am5

[hasty sphinx]

Alright someone may have to help him do so. I've been up for way to long and need to go to bed

[vital oriole]

Cya

[bleak coyote]

I thought I turned xmp on?

When I was setting up bios

That was the one thing they told me to do

Was to turn the xmp thing on

Then just save and start windows

[cyan vault]

Is GPU usage maxed?

[bleak coyote]

Idk

I’m pretty sure it isn’t

I just bought and used this pc lmao

[bleak coyote]

@hasty sphinx I’m not sure if this has anything to do with the issue but I heard the monitor can be the problem

Maybe the monitor can’t keep up with the gpu

Or maybe the psu isn’t the right wattage

Idek

I’m pretty sure I bought all compatible parts

Literally home windows page is fast and every REGULAR app that isn’t a game runs smooth and fine

But when I load any game up, the menu and the game is soooooo slow and choppy

Like 5 fps

[cyan vault]

What games specifically?

Have you tried any synthetic benchmarks?

[bleak coyote]

Where is that in settings

HIGHLY sure every driver is installed and updated

Pretty dang sure

Not sure

When I was on bios ppl told me all I had to do was do the xmp or expo thing

And save reset

That’s all I had to do is what they told me

[bleak coyote]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jX4pfv

Asrock

B650M

Bruh now monitor won’t turn on

“No display port signal”

I can’t do anything

My monitor is locked on the “display no signal” each time I turn the monitor on

It is

Everything is plugged in where it’s supposed to be

Display port in gpu

Bro I don’t get it

Everything is plugged in correctly

Only thing in mb is perifs

There isn’t any other cable

That fits the shape of the display port

It only came with that one display cable

Everything else is hdmi and other shaped cables

There’s no other display

Ports

Literally there is only one display cable and one display port

Everything else is hdmi or something else

That’s differently shaped and meant for different cables

Like when I log inv

?

Monitor has to work for me to do anything lol

Nothing is turning on

Is it the one next to the first port?

Power?

Psu cable?

Oh that

Alr

So unplug the power cable and the display cable from the port and the monitor

Then plug everything back in

And retry

Is what ur saying

I thought it was f2 for ASRock

Ok

Ok

We here

Bios

Where

Where can I check anyways

Anything need to be changed here?

Ok

Boot page

Ah it’s enabled

Alr

Time to disable

That’s it?

All I needed to do was disable that?

So that alone fixes my 5 fps in every game issues?

Ok

Save and exit?

Alr

done

Ok somehow monitor working now

LMAO

All of a sudden it wants to work now

Maybe it was that wall cable

Ima login to the pc

Alr

So all I gotta do is drag that to performance?

Where do we find that specific balanced setting

I forgot

There

Should I turn in game mode

Heard that helps

So basically either option doesn’t matter

I’ll just turn it on

Cause I’ve seen ppl turn it on while gaming

?

Where

High performances

?

Mb lol I’m new to this I’m sorry bro

I see it

Alr

Yeah I got it now

Ok it’s on

High performance

Where

There’s no save

Button

Just x out?

Does it use stupid more amounts of energy?

alr

alr

Ok it’s open

Status says up to date

Yup

23.5.1

it’s the current version

So I’m assuming yes

Alr

Mess anything with this?

Alr

Ok so NOW I should be able to have discord open and run Val

Without scrolling through the MENU at 5 fps

Like

I’m game game?

In Val?

Alr

I’ll check

Lolol

Dude

I literally set every graphic in low as well

Idc abt looks that much

I’m all about the game ALLOWING me to play it lol

everything on the lowest quality and still so choppy

Like it’s so weird

Alr

I’ll check anyways

For good measures

Will do

Opening Val up rn

Bro I’ll be able to tell just by the menu

If it’s slow or not

Cause yesterday scrolling through the MENU was hell

Like it was so delayed

Bro

It’s still laggy

WTF

Vsync off

Omgggggg

it’s so choppy

Bro idek at this point

I might just be unlucky holy

I don’t get it

We did everything?

Do I have to reset pc to apply changes?

Broooo

Why

What is going on

Bro

Now my screen is frozen

BRO

I’m spamming windows to leave Val and it’s stuck

[fringe scroll]

War thunder likes doing weird cursor stuff on my pc and nothing fixes it 💀💀

[bleak coyote]

What the actual

[fringe scroll]

Spaming does worse for your situation most of the time

[bleak coyote]

Ok then what’s the solution

Lmao

Otherwise spamming is all I can do

Idek bro

This brand new pc I just built

And now I can’t even use it

Holy

What a waste of 2k

[fringe scroll]

If something is frozen dont repeatedly spam close or next like my grandma does lmaoo

[bleak coyote]

Ok then

What is the solution

Ik it’s just hella frustrating

[fringe scroll]

I mean I know how but I'm not good at explaining things you know that lmao

[bleak coyote]

Well

Atleast just say it

[fringe scroll]

RAHHH

[bleak coyote]

I am

Just asking

But bro my monitor is frozen

Nah I’m good

My screen still stuck tho

Can’t do anything

Can’t exit out too

[fringe scroll]

Oh well I can't walk you through if your screen is stuck😭

[bleak coyote]

Ok well then we are done for

Lmao

By turning off monitor?

Or closing down pc

Oh

K

Goodness

Does this usually happen with most pcs?

I feel like I’m just an unlucky individual

Ok yeah

Then that makes sense

I just been chosen to endure this

Lmao

Weird

Pretty sure everything was updated before

So I turn it back on?

[fringe scroll]

Right-click on the Desktop and select AMD Radeon Software. In Radeon™ Software, click on the Gear icon then select System from the sub-menu. Locate Factory Reset and click Perform Reset.

Try this first ig

Why doesn't he want to use ddu?

[bleak coyote]

Wait so

What we are doing is uninstalling drivers and installing them again?

Interesting

So is the “drivers up to date” a bug or something I don’t get it

[heady turtle]

Pc restart usually easiest way to unfreeze ye

[fringe scroll]

This resets everything

Well it's supposed to atleast

[bleak coyote]

Wdym by “everything”

[fringe scroll]

Your drivers

[bleak coyote]

That sounds scary

Oh

[fringe scroll]

Not your whole pc

[bleak coyote]

Alr

Ohhh

Ok ok

Alr I’m boot this thing back up

And open software

And do that

[fringe scroll]

Sorry you've had such a bad experience so far man you just happened to be one of the few 😭

[heady turtle]

Bet

[fringe scroll]

OKAY PATO

[bleak coyote]

Ik bro

World just hates me

Luck just avoids me

It’s weird

Lol

Yea

Dawg

I just want this to work

Normally

Like any other pc

So I can run games normally bro

Literally was sure I had everything connected updated in tact

So weird

But ima trust the process

Brotha I got that fiber internet

I’m chillin

I have 800 download 700 upload

Even tho I got a gig router

Weird stuff

Ok I’m in the software now

Ok

Resting in

3

2

1

Uh

Nothing is showing

I just clicked and nothing happening, no black screen no shut down…

Oops wrong one

LOL

Check box?

Ok

Here we go…

How do I know it’s done

Well

I’m here chilling at the home page

Lmao

Nothing appeared

Software went away tho

But besides that

Nothing popped up

Alr

Done

Drivers installed onto pc

What now

Ok so the drivers instantly installed?

Alr

?

I just restart pc?

I click install windows10/11 drivers and it completed

It’s done installing

Like the file is here now

Adrenaline was never gone

I meant as

When I clicked reset the software went away

Like it exited out lol

I gotta set it up again

Yes

It says

Up to date

Alr

Wait

Actually

No

It says update available

Doing

23.5.2

.1 newer lmao

never know

Might just be the fix

Install?

Doing

Finish or restart

Ok

Done

Are we done…?

No like

It’s fine

Restarting

I logged in

So done done???

Bro

Don’t be another false alarm

BRO

I swear

Alr

Let’s see

Ima open up discord as wel

Always got it in the back

YOOOO

ITS NOT LAGGING

LETS GOOOOOOO

wait….

False alarm?

LET ME FR CHRCK

ima load into a match

NAH HOLD ON

CANT GET TOO EXCITED YET

Bro..

Why is my pc making weird noises

And now my pc is heating up so fast

I did

Everything at 60

Bro

Ima record it

It sounds weird

Alr

Phew

Ima just play….

With that noise running in the back..

Golly this is gonna be irritating

[fringe scroll]

LMAO

Yeah coil whine Is fun

Downside of high power cards

[bleak coyote]

Oh so basically

That weird loud nonstopping noise is normal?

[hot folio]

…I’ve never had coil whine ever wtf?

[bleak coyote]

That’s supposed to happen?

[hot folio]

It’s basically a 50/50 chance if you get it

[bleak coyote]

ok then ima just play

My pc is still getting super hot tho

[hot folio]

How hot is it?

[bleak coyote]

Pretty hot

Not like

You can’t Touch it hot

But it’s hot

If u lay ur finger on the gpu for long enough it could burn

The other parts of the pc are just very warm

[fringe scroll]

Yeah pc parts get hot

[bleak coyote]

But someone did tell me that because of this graphic card, heating up would be normal

Because it uses everything it can

To offer in performances

[bleak coyote]

Yeah but this hot?

[fringe scroll]

I see no reason why a brand new card should be overheating

[bleak coyote]

It’s like pretty darn hot

Well

Nothing has shut down

It’s just rlly rlly rlly warm

Can feel it though the glass

[fringe scroll]

Yeah like they're safe up to high 80s Celsius

[bleak coyote]

All fans are running too

[fringe scroll]

Good

[bleak coyote]

Let me check temp

What’s the app to check again?

[fringe scroll]

Yeah check adrenaline

[bleak coyote]

View something

Oh that works too

[fringe scroll]

Yeah

[fringe scroll]

They have a built in overlay u can turn on if u want

[hot folio]

Ctrl+Shift+O turns it on

[bleak coyote]

Is that bad

In the pic

[fringe scroll]

Go to settings

[bleak coyote]

70 gpu 1732 vram 6.9 ram 28 cpu

[fringe scroll]

That's not temps

That's utilization

[bleak coyote]

Wait

Mine doesn’t show general

[fringe scroll]

Or that might work if it's alr enabled

[hot folio]

It should be enabled by default

[bleak coyote]

Mine doesn’t show general

Tab

[fringe scroll]

Did u click on the lil gear in the top right

Oh

[bleak coyote]

Yes

[fringe scroll]

Okay try going to performance up top

On the right there should be tracking and overlay

[fringe scroll]

Yea go to overlay

[bleak coyote]

So basically when I’m don’t have Val open up it doesn’t gets like crazy

Even tho I still have it running

It’s only until I’m actually on the game

[fringe scroll]

Cause it stops rendering

[bleak coyote]

It starts heating up and that noise starts

[fringe scroll]

It's completely normal

[bleak coyote]

Ok

[fringe scroll]

Go to overlay

And enable it

[bleak coyote]

So the very very very warm (hot) pc transformation

Is normal

Gotcha

[fringe scroll]

Yess

Lmaoo

[bleak coyote]

Ok if so ima just okay

As long as this doesn’t shut down in the middle of a match

I’ll try to ignore

But goodness it gets hot

Like an oven or something

Like dang

[fringe scroll]

Your pc draws more power than most small space heaters lol all that energy has to go somewhere

[bleak coyote]

ok yk what ima just allow this annoying noise to run

Ima play

[fringe scroll]

8th grade science coming in clutch🗿

[bleak coyote]

Ima have fun and enjoy this

[fringe scroll]

Have fun

[bleak coyote]

HOLY THIS NOISE IS SO LOUD

Omg it’s actually annoying

Ima need headphones

BRO

[fringe scroll]

Why are you playing val without headphones 😭

[bleak coyote]

I’m like 2 feet away and I can legit FEEL the heat radiating

It’s getting so hot

Wtf

goodness

[fringe scroll]

YEAH THATS NORMAL LMAO

[bleak coyote]

LMAOOAO

NO LIKE

I DONT KNOW

[fringe scroll]

^^^

[bleak coyote]

if u understand

It’s not the hot u think

[fringe scroll]

I do😭

[bleak coyote]

It’s Hot hot

Ok

Wtv

[fringe scroll]

😭😭😭

[bleak coyote]

bro just pls don’t explode

LOL

does ur pc get this hit?

[fringe scroll]

Yeah lol

My pc is a 5900x and soon 3080ti like I said high end pcs draw close to as much power if not more than some space heaters

It's alot of energy

[bleak coyote]

Alr

Yeah bro

I’m just overthinking

ITS PCS

and these aren’t cheap low quality parts anyways

It’s expected for them to do this

That’s how they utilize All their energy

I’m just yapping for no reason

Just play the game goodness

[fringe scroll]

💀

[bleak coyote]

Ok I’m so sorry guys

I just want to be sure of everything

Yk the suspicions and anxiousness of a beginner of pcs like me bro

I don’t know anything

Lol

Thanks for all the help and patience tho

Ik I’m one annoying skid

Mk

Even if it feels as hot as the sun

It’s completely normal

Gotcha

Welp time to crazy

[hot folio]

I can’t touch my 6950 after a gaming session

[bleak coyote]

Alrighty

Loading into FIRST match of this pc

Pls survive lol

Ayo WTF

LMAOAO

Ik we not loaded yet but…

Golly

[bleak coyote]

Ok

First match… loss

Wtv tho I need to get use to this lol

Big frickin monitor

[bleak coyote]

Bro I’m running 800 fps and 11 ping 😍😍😍

[lone pond]

currently building a new pc and noticed that the gtx 1060 doesn't get enough power from my 600w PSU

wiiith a Ryzen 5 3600
I haven't checked much here

did work earlier and it's good

so epic

[hot comet]

I doubt that the psu not having enough power is the issue

[lone pond]

only when I move the PSU over to the new build it begins to not enjoy it

[lone pond]

yeah I know

[hot comet]

Unless you have like 4 1060 in there lol

[lone pond]

It's a Ryzen 5 3600 with a GTX 1060 6GB

it powers a 1050 to just fine but once I get the six pin GPU it doesn't enjoy

[hot comet]

So what's the psu doing that makes you think it's not able to supply enough power?

[lone pond]

it's the GPU that's confusing me

the GPUs fan spins and then immediately stops

[hot comet]

That sounds normal for initialization

[lone pond]

it's three quick movements occasionally

[hot comet]

On boot up right?

That sounds normal

[keen nacelle]

what is the model of psu

[lone pond]

it's one I bought ages ago on a budget
80 plus white smart 600e

[keen nacelle]

it could be a bad quality model, and not the actual wattage that's the issue

[lone pond]

600e

600w

[keen nacelle]

do you know the brand?

does it happen to be thermaltake

[lone pond]

tt

[keen nacelle]

because if so that's the issue, that psu is known for catching fire

I wouldn't try to turn the pc on more

[lone pond]

it worked in my other pc but the moment it went into this one it didn't work out with specifically that gpu

other two I have work fine

[keen nacelle]

higher wattage gpu

[lone pond]

might just put the PSU back in the old build and buy a new one for this one since I still do need the old one anyway

[hot comet]

Hydro g pro is pretty cheap rn

Nutty value

Like $85 I think

[keen nacelle]

Bare minimum I'd go is I think the gx1 right now?

Cheapest C tier psu

[lone pond]

I don't think the PSU can be trusted in any scenario anymore lmao

I hear the damn thing clicking when it's simply plugged in

[lone pond]

HAHAHAHA WELL WHAT DJ YOU KNOW

cable was smoking before I shut it off

the 12v connectors are the hot ones

[sonic mural]

Well at least the ground cables aren't the hot ones 😂

[lone pond]

lmao

the thing was clicking then boom smoke from the yellows

[keen nacelle]

I want to say "called it"

But that sounds rude

[lone pond]

s

now my old computer is in a bsod loop

because the ssd was corrupted lmao

[lone pond]

you can say whatever because I am actually laughing at this

lmao

[hot comet]

Based and corruption pilled

Lol

[lone pond]

only what I think is the boot sector

so far it ran into a bsod for inaccessible boot device

idk if the actual drive storage is intact

the recovery local reset worked out so far though
it's installing

[lone pond]

alright works fine

[lone pond]

can you send me a link to one that's like 500 or 600w?

[livid idol]

Pretty sure this is the one they meant, it's the hydro GE which is C tier but at least it's full modular, and C tier is enough for up to a 7 class GPU like a 6750 XT or 4070 ti. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077V9SVSK

The A tier hydro g pro is $100

Personally I'd get this one, same C tier but cheaper and 200W more https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1387675-REG/cooler_master_mpx_7501_amaab_us_masterwatt_750_semi_fanless_80.html

[hot comet]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vtgQzy/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-argb-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0650f3fagu-1

[hot comet]

Hydro g pro is the good one but I can't find it cheap any more

[livid idol]

Yeah it's $100 again sadly

[hot comet]

Unfortunate

It used to be such good value

Fortunately gf1 went back down a bit

[livid idol]

The PSU market in general has gone crazy for some reason still

You used to be able to get an A tier 650W for $65

[crude vault]

Question I'm helping my friend build his pc, for the gpu were trying to decide between 6900 xt vs 3080 ti

[heady turtle]

What country? New or used? Do they wanna do primarily ray tracing or just regular?

[crude vault]

Usa preferably new but no issues with getting used, ray tracing isn't too big of a concern to him, but however he plans to stream and do gaming

[heady turtle]

At new prices get this, with used it'll depend
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BM92FT/xfx-radeon-rx-6950-xt-16-gb-speedster-merc-319-video-card-rx-695xatbd9

[crude vault]

607 on amazon hmmm

[faint kernel]

I have a Dell Optiplex 3050 and am getting a message when I try to use certan programs. "OPENGL version is too low upgrade graphics card driver" I have an Intel HD Graphics 530 and it has the most current driver. Any suggestions? Thanks

[cerulean rover]

Any specific program? Hd 530 is a bit old and only supports up to opengl 4.6 afaik

[faint kernel]

A slicer program from Creality. It's for my 3d printer.

Is there another video card I can replace it with?

[cerulean rover]

Is there any documentation for the program for the requirements?

[quartz gull]

Urgent help please

My 4090 is stuck, Can't be pushed in or put

It's flexing the board and if I let go the 6 pound GPU will break something

Clip is all the way back but is gripping the end of the slot

I got it, I had to lift up the card way more. Apparently removing the GPU brace made it sag enough that friction was catching the clip

Having a GPU heavier than my laptop is surely something

[heady turtle]

happened to me before, the clip isnt pushed down fully, youre gonna need to press that down again with a lot of force

[quartz gull]

I saw my life flags before my eyes

$1800 GPU getting ruined would be the death of me

[somber anchor]

😐 No rgb software will detect my gpu

Asus Rog strix gtx 1080 advanced

[vital oriole]

Try openrgb or signal

[somber anchor]

I tried openrgb
will try the other one

ugh
somethings wrong

[dreamy laurel]

use cura or prusia slicer and find profiles for ur printer

creality anything sucks

could probably get 6500xt/6400 LP or 1650 LP for cheap to run slicers and cad

would personally get 1650

[faint kernel]

I do use Prusa slicer for my Prusa printers but I bought an Ender and I don't think it will run on Prusa slicer. Thanks for the info on the video cards. Not sure it will fit in my Dell Optiplex 3050.

[brave sequoia]

So I am not sure if anyone can help with this but I keep getting this crash error that occurs when I play some games for about thirty minutes to a hour. It gives me the error "Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0xffffffffffffffff" I asked one of my tech savvy friends for help and he pointed me here.

[livid idol]

What game is it and what hardware do you have?

That's often a memory issue but could be other things depending on circumstances

[brave sequoia]

I am playing Sqaud and I have
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-10850K CPU @ 3.60GHz 3.60 GHz
Installed RAM 32.0 GB (31.9 GB usable)
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
With a 3070 Ti

[livid idol]

What speed is the memory running at? You can see in task manager if you don't know

[brave sequoia]

3200

[livid idol]

Hmm. Ok so I'd start with a memory test.

Run this with the anta777extreme profile
https://www.overclock.net/threads/memory-testing-with-testmem5-tm5-with-custom-configs.1751608/

[hot bough]

My friend's GPU (RTX 3070 TI from Zotac) according to him is crashing around 60c you guys think it's due to the GDDR6X memory over heating?

That's my assumption so far.

[odd siren]

60C isn't a lot of context

What is 60c exactly

The temps that matter are hotspot and junction, if it's say a 60C readout on afterburner that's not useful at all

[fringe scroll]

No water flow yet he just... keeps using it???

My cpu will throttle at idle if I turned my pump off

Tf 😭

Yes

So no water flow

WHY DOESNT HE FIX IT

Just get a cheapo air cooler at that point

Oh

I was gonna say literally holding a metal cup on the cpu would provide better cooling LMAO

That's wonderful

Smart

Quite the intelligent guy, we would get along

Fr like a 224xt goes for 20bucks now lmaoo

Dang

Mmm

Stonk cooler

[livid idol]

Tell that to the gigacrap GPU I got. I'm pretty sure I damaged the memory, it reported 114C Junction when mining before it throttled hard, and after a short time was not stable at all beyond +400 mem.

I agree. And I'll never stop complaining about that 19.3k time spy score getting waste of silicon.

Freaking loses to a 3080 ti, badly.

[lone pond]

iirc it's only rated to 105C, but I'll take experience over presumably over safe data sheets 9 times out of 10

[lone pond]

my gigglebite 3070 ti was a monster. memory did +2200 stable during the winter without performance regression. hit a max of 86 ish C during the summer (albeit with a somewhat lower +2120 offset because when it got warmer it would scale negatively)

iirc it's only rated to 105C, but I'll take experience over presumably over safe data sheets 9 times out of 10

[hot comet]

For which brand of gddr6?

I know Samsung at least doesn't give tj max limits but just gives an expected tj max

[lone pond]

all GDDR6X is micron

[hot comet]

Actually, looking at their datasheet makes me think maybe I can go over 1.4v on ram for overclocking

Oh, you meant gddr6x

[lone pond]

well yes, that's what the message I replied to was referring to

[hot comet]

Yea, it's rated for 105c max afaik

It has a max storage temp of 125c which might be what he is referring to though

You could probably run it over that but it won't last as long

I kinda don't get the point in giving such insane storage temp ratings to parts tbh lol

Like some customer is gonna buy a ton of gddr6 and be like "whoops, storage bins are full. Better store them in my running industrial oven I guess" lol

I also wish they gave more temp and voltages to life expectancy curves but I get why they don't

[hot comet]

Ngl, last gen was nutty

Whole lineups were amazing from both companies

[keen nacelle]

Eh, 3070 ti, 3060 8gb and 12gb, and 3050 were pretty meh

[hot comet]

Now we get or 2 reasonable upgrades from last gen then a few GPUs worse than a basic oc levels of upgrades

[keen nacelle]

Same with 6400 and 6500xt

[hot comet]

I would love to see how I sane a 4030 would be

Like imagine a 1060 or 1070 tier xx30

Especially if they didn't fudge pricing

And it was priced like a 1030

[vital oriole]

3060ti g6x

[keen nacelle]

Just at $330 it's pretty meh

And I'd say 3050 ti 3060 8gb deserves a spot with those

Valid

The 1630 was just rubbing salt in an open wound

[heady turtle]

The worst offender so far - "4060 ti"

[vital oriole]

Thank god that 4080 12 turned into 4070ti

[heady turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-boomer-thumbs-up-kylo-ren-undercover-ren-snl-gif-16153766

[vital oriole]

but tbh

If Nvidia was a bit less greedy

That 4070ti woulda been 4070

And $600 I suppose?

[heady turtle]

Apparently they where waiting and where happily gonna price at 700 depending on if the 7900xt was 800

:(

[vital oriole]

Huh

Well shame 7900xt was 900

[heady turtle]

Yep

[vital oriole]

Nvidia doesn't drop price when it's set

[heady turtle]

Maybe if xt was 700 they might have done 650 4070ti

[vital oriole]

Well, in like 3 years

The margin is pretty high

[heady turtle]

Bout a year late but we at least have 280$ 3060ti now

Makes 4060ti even funnier

[vital oriole]

ye

Still kinds prefer 6700xt but I'm still a sucker for nvidia so 3060ti for that price ain't bad if I account in my own bias lmao

Hell 4060ti is even slower than the predecessor

Despite using dlss 3

[heady turtle]

Nah it's a tad better than 3060ti

Basically a 6700xt

[vital oriole]

hm ok

$400 for that perf sucks anyway tbh

[heady turtle]

In between 3060ti and 3070 so 6700xt

Yep

Even in nv lineup it sucks

Which is funny

[vital oriole]

if i go used $400 6800 is very much feasible

everywhere on ebay

in the us that is

[heady turtle]

I'm sure you could get a 6800xt now

[vital oriole]

possible yeah

but ez finds are the non xt

[lone pond]

tbh 6800 non XT was a really weird product, but I love mine

[hot folio]

I forget it exists

[vital oriole]

It frankly was a bad value when it launched

But now the price fell

[hot folio]

Where did it stand compared to NV’s line?

[vital oriole]

Around 3080

[hot folio]

I thought the 6800xt stood by the 3080?

[vital oriole]

xt leads it

[hot folio]

Or was it another case of being like 5% worsish

[vital oriole]

But not touching 3090

That's the 6900xt's job

It's like 3080ti?

[heady turtle]

Xnoo

[lone pond]

$80 for somewhat >3070 perf (at launch) and double the vram wasn't a bad premium tho. just the fact that it's a 25% cut down N31 die is kind of odd

[heady turtle]

Amds drivers aged like fine wine

[heady turtle]

Basically the same as 3090

[vital oriole]

I still wouldn't pay the premium for a 6800 back then imo

[heady turtle]

Remember there was no 6750xt either

[vital oriole]

But now I lack any reasons to say no

[lone pond]

if AMD's drivers hadn't matured so much, or without knowledge that they'd get to where they are now, both cards would be equally valid imo. as it currently stands with 6800 being only a little behind a 3080 and having double the memory of the 3070 I think it's a no brainer if looking a MSRP

[hot folio]

When 6775xt?

[vital oriole]

6995XT

[hot folio]

I have mixed feelings about 1.3k for a 3080

But if it breaks I get 1.3k back for a new GPU

[vital oriole]

Nah, 7955XTX

[lone pond]

plus you can MPT those suckers to basically 6800 xt perf extremely consistently anyway, so that's an extra 10-20% raster on top of stock performance

paid $1100 for my 3070 ti, albeit bundled with a board

[keen nacelle]

I essentially paid $1000 for my 3060 ti

[hot bough]

I feel the pain.

[heady turtle]

Mine breaking lowkey a blessing cuz of that full refund

[livid idol]

$2300 for the most garbage 3090 to ever curse this mortal plane. I put it up for auction on ebay and the bidders chose to pay $2300 for it so I was only out the ebay fees.

[hot comet]

Rxxx7999xtx3d

Highest they can go without hitting 8k

[hot comet]

Recently?

[livid idol]

No no this was in the worst of the shortage

[hot comet]

Or peak mining

Oh

Makes way more sense then

[livid idol]

Yeah back when you could barely find a 3090 for 3k even

[hot comet]

If it was recently id be like "that's actually insane and that buyer needs money privileges taken away asap lol

[livid idol]

I'd end the auction early before letting the bidding get that high today because it's either that (someone really irresponsible), or a scammer/troll.

[hot comet]

My GPU was having some issue where it was force enabling power limit unless I went sub 1300mv

And it randomly fixed itself after a day of trying to find the issue

Not cause something I did

Just cause it decided so

But when it fixed itself I got another over 79k graphics score on firestrike lol

[last barn]

@oak rivet if i buy two of these for my laptop will i have enough vram https://www.ebay.com/itm/284668666769?

[lone pond]

Need 48GB for 1080p med

[lament widget]

Paid 900 for xfx 6800, sold my pulse 5700xt for $950 on ebay that same week.

[vital oriole]

oof

[livid idol]

There was a time when the 5700 XT was one of the top mining cards for Hashes per Watt

Now no one cares what the top is

[vital oriole]

also ye

For once I was looking for a 3070 rig lmao

[solemn panther]

[lone pond]

Hi

I'm upgrading from a bad GPU to a 3060 and I don't know which power supply to get

[keen nacelle]

What country are you in?

[lone pond]

USA

[keen nacelle]

I wouldnt go for a 3060 unless you find a deal on one used, it's very overpriced

[lone pond]

I can't send pics

[keen nacelle]

3060 ti around $300 new, 6650xt around $230 and beats 3060

6700xt $310 and beats 3060 ti

[lone pond]

I found a 3060 for $290

Brand new

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sf3G9r

Id probably do that

3060 ti is 30% better than the 3060

[keen nacelle]

^

There's a psu in that link too

[lone pond]

So should I get a TI or just a regular?

[keen nacelle]

Ti

It's 30% better for $30-40 more

Otherwise get a 6650xt, 6700, or 6700xt

6750xt if it's cheap enough

[nocturne nest]

What would be a good GPU for skyrim? (120+fps)

[normal hawk]

Are you running modded?

if not, then you could basically do anything.

Although increasing the FPS over like 90 does tend to cause physics issues with entities. specifically the opening scene.

[nocturne nest]

For a friend lemme ask him rq

[normal hawk]

also ask budget and resolution.

[nocturne nest]

ok i misunderstood him a fiorst

I thought he was tryuing to play one of the older ones

He said hes trying to play Skyrim V

Budget is between

600-1000

he said he'd like to stay on the lower end

and non modded

[hot bough]

Lemme see what I can dig up real quick.

making a list.

[hot bough]

ARGB or nah?

[nocturne nest]

on the gpu?

i dont think he cares

[hot bough]

whole system.

Like $10 more gets you rgb.

[nocturne nest]

ye

he said he'd like some in the build

[hot bough]

How much storage?

1TB enough?

[nocturne nest]

should be

all he wants to play is skyrim

[hot bough]

gotcha.

Damn, SN770 is $50 right now for 1tb.

[nocturne nest]

only 50???

ima need to get me one of those

[keen nacelle]

6950xt, 4070 ti, 7900xt, 7900xtx

[keen nacelle]

For $50 it's pretty meh

2tb solid gen 3 ssds are $65

[hot bough]

that's for a full build.

Not just gpu.

[keen nacelle]

Ah ok

[hot bough]

I almost have a list ready.

[keen nacelle]

6700xt, 6750xt, or 3060 ti then

[hot bough]

what case you recommend?

[keen nacelle]

I think there's some with a mesh front around $45-50 rn

[hot bough]

Speedster 6700xt vs Zotac Gaming Twin Edge OC 3070 TI LHR which is better?

the latter is $20 cheaper.

@nocturne nest, does your friend have a PSU he can reuse?

Or anything he can reuse so I can optimize the pc's parts a bit better.

[nocturne nest]

I have a 600w psu he can have

Idk id its enoght tho

Idk*

[hot bough]

Hmmm it'd be cutting it tight but I think it should work.

[nocturne nest]

Its quite old to

[hot bough]

the build is currently $1051 for everything except psu.

13600KF, 6700XT, 32GB DDR5 guarenteed Hynix if I remember right, and the such.

could reduce it by another $20 if I downgrade the ssd.

[nocturne nest]

Should be fine

[hot bough]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hHb878

what I got so far.

[nocturne nest]

Alright thanks for the help

Ill lookinto it later as im not at home atm

[hot bough]

tried to squeeze the perf to $ ratio a lot on this build.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jjhgRv

changed cooler to LT520 since it's better for LGA1700.

Costs $5 more though.

[fringe scroll]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ymJXTn
If he wants to spend a lil more you can get a significantly better gpu and a longer lasting platform

If not I totally understand

[hot bough]

Danny you approve of my budget build?

It feels weird for me to do make a budget part list.

[fringe scroll]

Just throwing it out there

[hot bough]

Is that ram hynix?

[keen nacelle]

I would recommend something else

[nocturne nest]

Whatcha got

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r3Gcd9

If they want to spend more, just change gpu and psu as wanted

6750xt fine on same psu

6800xt probably fine on same psu but id go for 750w fsp g hydro or 750w RME

If wanting a better cpu, 13400f+b760 ds3h ax+32gb silicon power 3200c16

Or 7600+ whatever that asrock a620m wifi is for $125 and an $82 5600c32 teamgroup kit

[nocturne nest]

Thanks

I think my friend will like that more pricce wize

Wise

[keen nacelle]

Yeah, and its still a beast

Will more than handle anything you throw at it

[oak rivet]

based

[hot bough]

My GT210 just arrived after like a month xD.

[wanton edge]

[unreal elm]

do ya’ll think an i9-9900k can handle a 4090. Im just trying to get 144fps at 2k on some games. Im buying a new pc but cant afford all the parts yet so thought i would just enjoy an upgrade while I finish saving up. My psu is 1000 watts so I think my current pc can handle it

[hot bough]

anything sub-4k will bottleneck a 4090.

[oak rivet]

some perf will be on the table but depending on what gpu you have rn a gpu upgrade first usually makes most sense

[unreal elm]

i have a 2080ti rn but i have enough to get the 4090 and a new monitor or two

[oak rivet]

you will definetly feel the 4090 then

[unreal elm]

would a 4k 165hz monitor be a good pick

or like a 4k 240hz i dont really play a lot of shooters but i kind of like 240hz on my current monitor

[hot folio]

Nope, even a 7800x3d can’t handle it

You’ll be bottlenecked until you go 4k iirc

[hot bough]

240hz at 4k I don't think exists.

[hot bough]

That would be much better if your pairing with a 4090.

[hot bough]

Nevermind. 4k 240hz is a thing now it seems. Only problem is that they cost around $1200 from what I saw.

[misty granite]

7900 XTX a good solution for Solidworks modeling and Keyshot 4K+ renderings?

[hot folio]

It should be fine

Won’t be as good as a 4090 or 4080 but it’ll still work pretty damn well

[keen nacelle]

144 fps at 1440p, id just go 7900xtx

[lone pond]

Where is 7700 XT

[keen nacelle]

Not out yet, we don't have a release date

I'd imagine by q4 2023 well have it though