graphics-cards

[oak rivet]

jedi survivor moment

[random walrus]

But consoles can run it fine right?

Not a exactly a "demanding on hardware" issue

[cyan vault]

well i mean, yeah it is kinda. consoles all have the exact same parts in them so its much, much easier to optimize it

[oak rivet]

I don't see consoles running it fine lol

Tons of issues there aswell

[oak rivet]

There are issues with the performance mode in series x

Dk what that had to do with that

But ok

[hasty sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/agreed-right-tho-exactly-my-point-jason-momoa-aqua-man-gif-17102934

[solid glacier]

With my RTSS should I delete the games and just use global or no? Does it matter bc when I have global on I had Val listed under it to but it wasn’t workjng so I deleted val from RTSS and used global and now it’s working

[hasty sphinx]

I've never made a per game OSD with RTSS. Just global all the way.

[solid glacier]

yea for cod i hjave to it wont work with global

[hasty sphinx]

Which is odd because global works for cod with me.

[solid glacier]

Maybe i have a update to do on it

nope no up[dates

Is this waht yours look like

[hasty sphinx]

Just stock settings

[solid glacier]

Ohh

Is there a difference between low and high

[vital oriole]

low means it uses more minimal injection technique

high is for when a game doesn't display the osd correctly

but it can be detected easier by anti cheat

[hasty sphinx]

erm

[vital oriole]

I'm explaining application detection level

[hasty sphinx]

That is the option for software checking to see if you've opened a game or application that uses your GPU. That check will tell RTSS to open OSD(your FPS readouts) on the window.

On low, it'll figure out games and stuff.

On high, it'll be triggered by Chrome with hardware acceleration.

[vital oriole]

ah, well then

[hasty sphinx]

basically high will detect almost anything that uses your GPU and display OSD

[vital oriole]

anyway having profiles in rtss is just that it allows you to individually enable/disable the osd

[hasty sphinx]

yeah

[vital oriole]

you probably didn't set it up right so it didn't appear

[hasty sphinx]

Global doesn't work, but his cod.exe profile does

So whatever his cod.exe is set up as.. he should make his global as well

[vital oriole]

that's a bit odd

[solid glacier]

Yea global won’t detect so I add the game itself

I’m gonna put it back on low and see what happens

[distant adder]

Im thinking about buying the rx 6700 over 3060ti, tho DLSS is pretty sexy tbh. also the 6700 is around 80$ cheaper than the 3060ti where I live. Havent tried AMD before what do yall think?
is DLSS it worth it?

[keen nacelle]

6700 is about 5-10% worse than 3060 ti, 6700 has FSR 2.0 which is DLSS but for AMD

6700xt beats the 3060 ti by a little bit, id also check the price on that

[distant adder]

oh yeah i meant the xt one sorry

[keen nacelle]

Ah I'd 100% go for the 6700xt then

Unless you're streaming or need CUDA for some video editing or whatever

Streaming would be a toss-up, if you have an igpu built into the cpu then yeah I'd go 6700xt still

If you need to use gpu encoding, NVIDIAs NVENC would be useful for that

[viscid dove]

3090 vs 7900xt??

[keen nacelle]

7900xt

[distant adder]

nah i dont stream

[keen nacelle]

Then yeah, 100% 6700xt imo

[fringe scroll]

Yea great card

I'm able to max everything out at 1440p

[distant adder]

hmm, are there any other software differences other than the streaming one?

oh I also have a 12700f if that makes any difference

[keen nacelle]

3060 ti is definitely a great card too, coming from someone who's run one for two years (i think). Just not worth that much more than 6700xt

[distant adder]

yeah I mean the price is really alluring

[keen nacelle]

Not many other software differences aside from 3060 ti being a lil easier to overclock, and 3060 ti has better ray tracing

Rtx isn't even worth considering at 3060 ti level though

[fringe scroll]

(I wouldn't use rt on a 3060 anyway)

[fringe scroll]

Yuh

[distant adder]

I see, what about having intel cpu, does it make any difference?

[keen nacelle]

I've tried it out and it tanks fps way too much to be worth it

Nah not at all

[fringe scroll]

6700xt is like 2070super to 2080 rt

[keen nacelle]

It's like a 2080 super using ray tracing

[fringe scroll]

Oh wow

[keen nacelle]

Which is not good

[fringe scroll]

Lol

[keen nacelle]

6000 series matches 20 series rtx iirc

So I'm assuming the 20 series equivelant of 6700xt would still perform similarly after rtx

[fringe scroll]

First gen rt cores were stinky

[distant adder]

I was also thinking of waiting for a price drop for 40 gen. I dont think I can wait for long with my 1060 almost dying

[keen nacelle]

4060 would likely be worth and good

Or 7700xt

[fringe scroll]

Can't wait for that

7700xt gonna be sweet

(I hope)

[hot folio]

How much is the 4060 supposed to cost?

[distant adder]

So do I go with the 6700xt or do I wait for 4060/7700xt?

[keen nacelle]

It's up to you, if you're able to stick it out I would, if you don't think you can, the 6700xt is a fantastic gpu

What power supply do you have btw?

[distant adder]

650w

[keen nacelle]

Model?

[distant adder]

oh 600w actually

[distant adder]

im not sure tbh

its kinda old, bought it like 5 years ago

ill probably go with the 6700xt cuz I also want to change the mobo (b660 matx) and my nzxt h440

[keen nacelle]

I'd check the model, a bad psu could kill your system if its put under a higher load

Also why replace the mobo? Perfectly fine for a 12700f

Case is a good idea to change, g360a, fractal design focus 2, fractal design rgb, mx330, 4000d airflow are all good choices

There's plenty others too but those are some to take a look at. G360a is my personal favorite

[fringe scroll]

Me with g360a wanting a 4000d

/5000d

[solid glacier]

100 fps on Minecraft..? Wtf is wrong with my pc

[random walrus]

I get under 60 on vanilla MC with my 5600x/3060Ti build

Idk what's wrong with it, I just use sodium/lithium/phosphor on Fabric and get great fps

[hot bough]

Were you using the right java version?

[random walrus]

Everything is up to date

[hot bough]

What MC version with what java version?

[random walrus]

Not sure but it's occured on multiple combinations of MC and java versions

[hot bough]

Strange. this is the first time I've heard of this.

[random walrus]

Yeah it's odd

[hot bough]

Are you using Curseforge?

or some abnormal launcher like Tlauncher.

[lone pond]

vsync?

[hot bough]

V-sync is a bit weird in MC sometimes.

But shouldn't cause this.

unless your monitor is set to 60hz.

[solid glacier]

I’m using lunar client

[hot bough]

for perf comparison, I am using a 5700G+3070 and I get about 300+ fps without use of things like Sodiium or Optifine, around 600+ fps if I use Optifine.

[hot bough]

Definitely recommendable for vanilla.

[solid glacier]

Yea I’m only playing vanilla

I should be getitng more fps than I am though

[hot bough]

what cha getting?

[solid glacier]

113 fps lol

[hot bough]

shaders, texture packs?

[solid glacier]

But that’s when I’m around 70 people

Nope

[hot bough]

That's the cause lmao.

when your on a server next to that many people especially if they''re moving around it will make your FPS dip like crazy.

[livid idol]

That's a server limit at that point

It can only process and send so much data, so you're waiting on it to send that data to make a frame

[solid glacier]

Oo okay

[hot bough]

best way to check your fps limits in vanilla mc is singleplayer.

cause all the rendering and stuff is being done on your end.

[wicked hound]

Correction: cause it's a controlled environment
Rendering, physics, ticking, etc are all still being done client side regardless of on a server or not.

Also, MC really gets a pretty big perf hit with entity rendering. Even with the 15+ common Fabric perf mods it'll still be pretty harsh.

A good list of performance mods: https://github.com/TheUsefulLists/UsefulMods
These two modpacks combined are pretty nice: https://modrinth.com/modpack/fabulously-optimized and https://modrinth.com/modpack/sugar

[solid glacier]

Yea my rtss global won’t detect for some of my games so I add the game itself
I’m gonna put it back on low and see what happens

[hasty sphinx]

Do you have Afterburner?

[solid glacier]

yea

[hasty sphinx]

Do you have it set to start at startup and always on?

[solid glacier]

rtss? yea

[hasty sphinx]

I find that some games, I have to exit rtss in the quick panel, it'll reload itself and then start working for that game. I do also have a keybind set in afterburner to turn OSD on/off when I press the END key

[solid glacier]

Wym exit it? like close it and reopen it

Do u have these on?

[hasty sphinx]

yep

[hasty sphinx]

No.. I exit rtss in the quick panel.. it reloads itself.

If I'm in a game and it isn't showing my OSD whether I press my hotkey or not, if I exit it, it reloads itself then it starts working.

You have to have afterburner running as well though

afterburner is what initiates it to start itself again.

I exit it from here

[solid glacier]

Oo

[lone pond]

is this true or is he bsing

[spare relic]

Grapic card

[lone pond]

what 😭 ‼️ ‼️

[livid idol]

It could technically be true, assuming the 1080 ti is even able to hit 165 fps. Which it can't in a lot of modern games.

[spare relic]

I'd still like to use a 1080ti

[livid idol]

Well it's effectively a 3060 without RT

[spare relic]

I'm not sure what parts I'll get when I build a whole new computer

[hot folio]

He’s bsin

[spare relic]

bsin bsin

https://tenor.com/view/kassypoo-gif-23947166

[cyan vault]

Was looking at tech powerup and I noticed this: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-7950-xtx.c3980

How did they get these numbers lol?

[odd siren]

Never released

It's an estimate of what the XTX would be if they fixed the supposed silicon issues with Navi 31/33

Dubbed the 7950XTX it would've been a different sku

Tho in reality, that sku wouldn't have been 25% faster

Maybe 10%-ish

Since people can achieve these results with an EVC

More or less anyway

[livid idol]

There's been leaks of a 7950 XTX that had specs so all they had to do was extrapolate the data

[cyan vault]

Interesting. Wonder if they’ll end up making a 7950 XTX ever

[livid idol]

They can if they want. Essentially they were toying with the idea of just maxing out the power limit at 600W like Nvidia did, and adding a few more cores.

[cyan vault]

I saw a post where they added it to ROCm along with 7600 7800 etc etc

Who knows

[oak rivet]

No matter the resolution definitely will see a huge difference unless using a really bad cpu

Me seeing astronomical difference between 2080ti and 3080ti at 1080p even

[fervent sedge]

What graphics cards would you guys consider to be a worthwhile upgrade for 3440x1440p ultrawide high refresh rate gaming coming from an RX6800?

[oak rivet]

7900xt/xtx 4080/90 from Nvidia

[livid idol]

That's about the only things that are an upgrade for you that's worth it (cost aside)

[fervent sedge]

Planning on selling my 6800 when/if i upgrade. I'm like 99% certain the rest of my system would be fine and not bottleneck nothin buuuut

What would a good price be for a used Powercolor Fighter RX6800

[livid idol]

They're still going for around $400 on ebay

[fervent sedge]

Sweet!

I bought my 6800 impulsively because it's what i could afford at the time and i was eager to build my first pc. Didn't end up biting me in the butt since most games run perfectly, buuuuuut The Last Of Us on PC could run a little better ;)

[heady turtle]

That's because the last of is a messy console port with little to no effort in it

[livid idol]

The 4090 barely gets 170 fps in TLOU on 1080p medium lol

[heady turtle]

Yeah exactly lmao

[livid idol]

160 on 1440p medium but still

[heady turtle]

Can't wait to see the confusion between if it's gonna be 7900xt, 7950xt, 7900xtx, 7950xtx or 7900xt, 7900xtx, 7950xt, 7950xtx

What a mouthful

[vital oriole]

[livid idol]

Add in the confusion of the existing 7950X and 7950X3D (does the 3D mean it's a GPU???) and it's a perfect storm

[heady turtle]

Lmao and the 7900 cpus too

Way to confuse ppl

[livid idol]

It doesn't help that there's also XT CPUs

[heady turtle]

I'd say that naming for cpus is dead

[livid idol]

I sure hope so

[heady turtle]

Imagine a 7900xt with a 7900xt

[fervent sedge]

7975xxtxx

[livid idol]

We can already do a 7900 with a 7900

[heady turtle]

Coming soon to cinemas near you, 2023's scariest horror film

[fervent sedge]

6600 with a 6600

you guess which the i5 is

[heady turtle]

Well technically there's no Mon xt 7900 gpu

Yet ™️

[oak rivet]

7700x with a 7700xt

[livid idol]

Ah but that's where you're wrong
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_HD_7000_series

[fervent sedge]

i only bought my intel cpu because i like the letter K

the letter K is cool because it makes the letter Q feel insecure

[livid idol]

We can also do a 7600 with a 7600 the same way

[heady turtle]

Oh nooo

[wicked hound]

Dont forget the 7600 memory with 2:1 IF ratio (maybe?)

Overclock 7200RPM HDD to 7600RPM???

[livid idol]

I don't think a 7600 could run at 7600 but maybe it'll run a 7600 at 7600 with some LN2

[heady turtle]

Just run it at 7600hz ez

[odd siren]

Coupled with a 7400MB/s gen 4 ssd

An R7 7700, 7900XT

7200MT/s ram

And 7200rpm delta fans on a 720mm radiator liquid loop

And 7200 rpm HDD's in a 76TB Raid 5 array

Some people say I'm obsessed with sevens, I beg to differ.

[fringe scroll]

You could just do ls720

All on a 750w psu🗿

[odd siren]

That's on mah cpu, loop on mah gpu

In a fractal define 7

[fringe scroll]

Mmm

WAIT

The fractal define 7😭

[odd siren]

I have a house of cards comprising only of 7's of clubs, diamonds, spades and hearts next to my 700$ crosshair hero

[fringe scroll]

Wait gtx 770

Yes

More sevens more better

[odd siren]

GTX 770 for running my other 3 screens to go with my 4 on the 7900xt

[fringe scroll]

Also ik you much you loveeee psc

[odd siren]

You what you what

[fringe scroll]

YES

[odd siren]

English sir

[fringe scroll]

I said you love psc

Ddr3333

[odd siren]

*how much

[odd siren]

I prefer ddr5 7777

[fringe scroll]

10 dabloons

I tried once last night while setting everything up

Just 2400 8 12 9

[odd siren]

Come back to me when 8200 36 46 46

[fringe scroll]

Ok

[odd siren]

Are they good

Did you sheer any caps

[fringe scroll]

LMAO

Speaking of which

[odd siren]

?

[fringe scroll]

They're his

[odd siren]

Oh

Makin it look awful like you just delidded with the knife in that pic 💀

[fringe scroll]

I'm not that bad😭

[odd siren]

Has a history of spontaneous delidding
"I'm not that bad😭"

[fringe scroll]

IT WAS ONCE

And you told me to💀💀 or I misunderstood lol

We were both tired

[odd siren]

I SAID MAYBE YOU COULD

[fringe scroll]

LMAOO

Close enough

[odd siren]

BRO DIDN'T EVEN ASKED HE JUST UNSHEATHED THE BLADE FROM HIS BOOT

@last barn this lad is a RAM assassin he's playing you for a fool

[fringe scroll]

Hey now

I was sorta careful

Made sure to try and warm them up😭

I dont have a heat gun here tho

💀

I should just but some harborfreight special

[last barn]

Huh

[fervent sedge]

Okay how terrible of an idea is it to plug a cablemod 12vhpwr connector into an 8 pin splitter, and then into my PSU?

[livid idol]

Depends, what GPU?

[fervent sedge]

rtx 4080

[livid idol]

You'll want 2 separate 8 pin cables, you might actually melt a single cable

[solid glacier]

What should i sell my 6900 xt for? on ebay there going for 450

Isnt there a discord or redit to post it? i forgot what its called

[livid idol]

r/hardwareswap

[solid glacier]

ty!

To think i get 140 fps on big map warzone the 7900xtx gets 298.., huge difference

[soft flume]

I opened my 4070 aero and it came with this Aorus warranty thing but the gpu is a 4070 aero

[vital oriole]

it's fine lol

aero is still in aorus lineup

[fervent sedge]

The 4080 adaptor is 3x 4pin

Should I use both of one cable on one, half on another?

Or three individual 8 pin

[livid idol]

Ideally 3 individual ones but you could probably get away with 2 and a daisy chain if you're not planning to overclock.

[fervent sedge]

Nawww overclocking doesn't interest me. I got four 8-pins from my PSU so i might aswell use 3 and cram the enormous wad of cables back somehow

[wheat crag]

I know it old news but did Nividia know about the ggrd6x thermal pad issue when it released?

I mean they must’ve know right, they have a lot of engineers probably and tested them

[vital oriole]

Which thermal pads issue?

I mean, which gpu

[wheat crag]

3000 series besides 3070s and other models below it

And basically every aib

[vital oriole]

Huh, I have never heard of this problem before

[wheat crag]

Overheating gddr6x bc of crappy thermal pads

Would reach like 110c

[vital oriole]

That's the aib's fault more than nvidia's

[wheat crag]

It was in the founders as well

[vital oriole]

I also don't recall 3070 having g6x

[wheat crag]

Just was curious why Nividia would let an issue like that happen

[wheat crag]

Yea it doesn’t

The ti does

[vital oriole]

Nvidia just sells the chips and decides the price

Board design and the rest is up to the aibs

It seems more like qc issue tbh

From what I can see here

Sometimes qc can fail so

[cyan vault]

Not sure if this would go here or software, but ever since I ran DDU like 2 driver updates ago I no longer see the FPS in the radeon software overlay. It just says N/A, I've ran DDU during driver updates since then and it doesn't seem to change. Always in fullscreen, it shows everything else like my util, fan speed, vram, temps etc just not FPS. GPU is 7900 XTX and drivers 23.4.3

[vital oriole]

You weren't supposed to ddu on radeon though

Might need a windows reinstall

[cyan vault]

You...don't DDU radeon?

Woops

[vital oriole]

Or try fresh install of driver

The clean install option in Radeon installer

[cyan vault]

I did DDU multiple times without this issue popping up so hm

I'll try the clean install

[vital oriole]

DDU tends to mess up on radeon since it removes too much from it

Or certain things that could break stuff

[cyan vault]

Interesting. So when new drivers come out I can just use the download function they have built in?'

Have been doing DDU every time so that might've broken it somehow

[vital oriole]

Yeah

But I recc downloading from the site

[cyan vault]

Used AMD driver cleanup thingy and clean install, issue persists

😢

[vital oriole]

welp

It's time to reinstall windows

DDU has messed something up

[cyan vault]

Would this be like, the only thing it messes up or could it lead to more problems down the road?

I can deal with just like having to use RTSS or somethin but if it could lead to another issue coming up windows reinstall it is

[vital oriole]

It can lead to more issues

It's up to you though, whether you want to cope with issues or fix it

[cyan vault]

Yeah it shows up on like, xbox game bar and RTSS

Man thats annoying. Probably happened when I switched to W11 and didnt notice

Best to use an installation media or can I just use the reset function in windows?

And would it be wisest to do the wipe everything version, or can I do the keep my personal files one?

[vital oriole]

I would do install media

Reset is slow as heck

Even on an ssd system

[cyan vault]

fair enough

time to move all my files to my hard drive

[wheat crag]

Seems plausible

[livid idol]

That's not even a 4090

[acoustic knot]

Fax your broke af

[sonic mural]

That lower right outlet has seen better days

[velvet grail]

Outlet really said: >o<

[fringe scroll]

Yea fr replace that outlet 😭

I've gotta replace mine

The whole cover is loose

Mfs that get hired to work on this house by my landlord dont know how to do jack correctly

[spare relic]

don't worry Danny my grandpa built his own mcmansion and it still has trash outlets

especially in the hallway bathroom, that thing is hanging on for dear life

[fringe scroll]

Hold up I'll send a pic of the stairs leading to the basement that they did in a bit💀

[spare relic]

https://tenor.com/view/engineer-fixed-tape-gif-14723651

[lapis zinc]

So what is everyone’s opinion on merc 19 speedster

I found a used one for 5500kr (roughly ~$540)

[heady turtle]

depends on the card, like 6800? 6700 etc

[lapis zinc]

6800

[heady turtle]

That sounds decent

[hot bough]

Isn't the 599$ deal on the 6950xt still going on?

[heady turtle]

They just said they translated the price

[hot bough]

for the 6800 not the 6950xt

[heady turtle]

Yes but prices are different in diff countries

[hot folio]

You can get a 6950xt for 650€ if you don’t mind spending a bit more

https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/16GB-XFX-Radeon-RX-6950-XT-Speedster-MERC-BLACK-GAMING-DDR6-Tri-retail_1459523.html

[lapis zinc]

Ah I am not from Germany unfortunately it’s a lot pricier if I get it in my country 😅

[dark tulip]

whats the difference between 8gb memory size gpu and 6gb memory size gpu
i found 2 different ones which have same ghz and mhz, 8gb memory size is cheaper
and im just not sure

[livid idol]

Which 2 models are you referring to? There's no one model I'm aware of that comes in 6GB and 8GB flavors. I know of some with 3 vs 6 and 6 vs 12.

There's a lot more to look at on a GPU than just the memory

[dark tulip]

nevermind sorry

[silver fiber]

should i buy rx 550 or gt 1030?

[oak rivet]

Rx 550 is stronger but not really ideal

[heady turtle]

Ideally neither they're about the performance of a modern day igpu

[livid idol]

Yeah the 5600g in particular is about equal to the 1030 DDR5 and the RX 550 in general. Beats the DDR4 model of 1030.

Overclock the memory and the 5600g does even better

[oak rivet]

https://youtu.be/GRMFGQoyyVY

[dreamy laurel]

Neither

Buy a used 5600xt or something

[cyan vault]

Does anyone know any in depth, extremely detailed videos about what exactly ray tracing is and how it works?

[hasty monolith]

https://youtu.be/xPTjQ59gbJo

[hasty monolith]

Does this helps?

[cyan vault]

I’ve seen this before yes, I was looking for more technical videos

Appreciate the help though!

[lone pond]

can't seem to find the link, but the best explaination I've seen was in a video about ray tracing on a calculator. because yes

[cyan vault]

Watched it an it was actually really informative lol

[stark wave]

what 4070 should I get

are there any white ones

[odd siren]

The cheapest

Go to a micro center if nearby and get a $600 one eith a $100 steam gift card

[stark wave]

we do not have microcenters in Louisiana

[odd siren]

They aren't worth a cent over 500 let alone 600

[stark wave]

well its better than a 3070

[odd siren]

Yes

3070's aren't worth more than 350

[stark wave]

My cousin is getting me one for graduation so i just needa find one

[stark wave]

can I find one online with the $100 steam gift card

[odd siren]

Not outside of micro center no

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9ZZXsY/msi-ventus-3x-oc-geforce-rtx-4070-12-gb-video-card-rtx-4070-ventus-3x-12g-oc

$580

[stark wave]

still would be the same as say the TUF OC version?

[odd siren]

4070's and Ti's are all overbuilt for their spec

It's not something you need to worry about

[stark wave]

does this one's logo have RGB

it doesnt matter but Im just wondering

[odd siren]

Couldn't tell you off the top of my head

[stark wave]

gotcha

thanks

[lone pond]

ikr? it was shockingly in depth from what I remember, especially concidering it was literally about a calculator lol

[hot bough]

Looking into some GPUs to use so I can get my server running so I was wondering how old of a GPU I can use for a LGA1200 system?

[keen nacelle]

Would the igpu not suffice?

[odd siren]

5700G igpu?

[hot bough]

Gonna reuse my I7-10700f until I upgrade my 5700G.

[fringe scroll]

If you just need a display output

[keen nacelle]

Gt 710, 730, 1030

[fringe scroll]

Buy a used gt710 or sum off ebay lmao

[keen nacelle]

Rx 550, 560

[fringe scroll]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/155546422760?mkcid=16&mkevt=1

Lol

First one I saw

[hot bough]

Gotcha thanks.

[livid idol]

I'm literally using a Radeon HD 5770 in my server from 2009. PCIe is totally backwards compatible. Feel free to get a basic cheapo GPU like this one, from 2014. https://www.ebay.com/itm/256063537983

[hot bough]

Neat. Will take a look on Amazon.com.mx later.

Also loving the sound of my new metal keycaps.

[hot bough]

Would this work?
https://www.amazon.com.mx/banapoy-Tarjeta-Ordenador-Express2-0-Sobremesa/dp/B0C3BTMK1D/ref=mp_s_a_1_52?crid=13SB0FP6TUFB0&keywords=gpu&qid=1683752436&refinements=p_36%3A9841541011&rnid=9754432011&s=computers&sprefix=gp%2Caps%2C191&sr=1-52

Cheapest GPU I can find on Amazon.com.mx

[livid idol]

Yeah that'll do

[hot bough]

Bloody hell, looked at eBay and the shipping fees are outrageous.

Like $40-60 to ship a $10-20 GPU.

[hot bough]

Just saw that in a specs listing it says the HDMI is for audio input? Does that mean I can't use it for video?

[random walrus]

Probably means it does audio as well as video

For monitors with speakers

[livid idol]

It also does audio only for multi channel receivers if you wanted to do surround sound

[hot bough]

So there's no cause for concern?

[lone pond]

are there any problems with any brands of gpu?

like, is gigabyte better than msi, is msi worse than evga or are they all the same?

[cerulean rover]

It all just depends on the model

Like you could say
Asus 4070 Strix is much better than MSI 4070 Ventus 2x
But that doesn't mean Asus is better than MSI
Because at the same time,
MSI 4070 gaming x trio is much better than Asus 4070 Dual

[lone pond]

also are amazon renewed gpus fine or no

getting a pc soon for one of my nice airsoft builds, needs gpu

[somber vector]

does the gtx 1660 or rx 5600 perform better

[spare relic]

https://tenor.com/view/idk-lol-idk-lol-jpste-gif-25792930

[vital oriole]

5600 is faster

but what are they priced at?

[random walrus]

Probably, but I'd just go buy something used off of ebay

[lone pond]

does ebay have like scam protection

[livid idol]

Yes, through paypal, which they used to own until they split

And if you have an issue with a seller they usually side with the buyer

[lone pond]

hell ye

i just need a good GPU, either 3080-90 or a 4070

[grim galleon]

Your banner is insane icy

W

[lone pond]

outrageously hard banner

[vital oriole]

For around 600-650 you can get a 6950xt

Brand new

[grim galleon]

its 600 now!?

well usd ig

still a good amount

[vital oriole]

Yes lol

[grim galleon]

fax

[vital oriole]

It has fallen down in price pretty hard

[grim galleon]

yea lol

i got my 6700 for like 500 cad

[livid idol]

It's not just in the US, I've seen the 6950 for 650 Euros including VAT

[vital oriole]

ye

[lone pond]

what's the Nvidia equivalent

[vital oriole]

3090ti

With dlss and rt off

[lone pond]

uhhh

i hope raytracing has a bad day

[vital oriole]

Huh?

[spare relic]

Me when ray tracing

[lone pond]

raytracing garbage 🔥🔥🗣️🗣️

[spare relic]

That's definitely me when I ray tracing

[vital oriole]

It's well better now, but it's definitely not very reasy

Well then 6950xt is your choice since you don't want rt anyway

[livid idol]

95% of games with RT have a garbage implementation of it tbh

There's only a few that actually look significantly better

[vital oriole]

yep

And is significantly more intensive to run

[spare relic]

Minecraft RTX looks like a swamp but without the cool parts

[livid idol]

Control is an early example. With RT off you actually miss a lot of details and reflections.

[hot folio]

Control still wows me with its graphics

There’s such a huge difference between RT on and off

[vital oriole]

yep

Not too heavy to run too tbh, relatively speaking

[livid idol]

Well it was designed when the 20 series was new. It had to be able to run on the 2080 ti at least.

So naturally a 3070 was able to run it pretty well given the improvements in RT cores

[fringe scroll]

Is it a good game tho?

[hot folio]

I really enjoyed it

[fringe scroll]

Okay, I'll install it.

[limber flax]

Yeah its a fun game

[livid idol]

It's worth what I paid for it (I got it free on epic)

But really it is worth a play through at least

[lone pond]

As far as the used market goes, what are some good AMD GPU options that’d pair well with a 7600X?

[livid idol]

What's your budget? That'll go with just about anything

[keen nacelle]

Lowest I'd go is a 2080 super/3060 ti if it's in your budget, highest I'd go is a 4090 lol

[lone pond]

Depends on how much my current rig will sell for

(12100F, 5700, 16GB 3200Mhz, DS3H, Phanteks P300A, Corsair CX650M, Samsung 980)

[lone pond]

Well I’ve been considering a 7600 XT/6700 XT, unsure how those compare however

[keen nacelle]

I highly doubt the 7600xt is going to be a good performance boost over the 6600xt based on what I've seen

I've seen it losing to the 6750xt, but those are early leaks. I'd wait till it comes out before deciding if you're not buying right now

You could also just keep the 5700. Odds are it won't be more than 20% slower than the 7600xt imo

[lone pond]

Well no one would really buy a rig without a GPU and if I were to give the rig to my brother I'd have to figure out a replacement GPU

I have no clue what to value my system at anyways

[keen nacelle]

People buy gpuless rigs all the time

[vital oriole]

^

[lone pond]

Yeah but mine wouldn’t have any display, I was probably gonna rip out the SSD took mainly because of security reasons

Hmmmm, well we’ll see

[hot folio]

Pull an iBuyPower and slap a GT710 in it

Then market it as a high end gaming pc

[lone pond]

is bestbuy fine to buy gpus from

or is it just the prebuilts they sell that are garbage

would rather buy brand new from bricknmortar rather than amazon or ebay

[vital oriole]

Amazon has great support tho

[lone pond]

real

[vital oriole]

And buying from physical retails outside of microcenter tends to not give you bang for your buck

[lone pond]

yeahh

once this build is finished ill be good at rust fs

it was never me that was the problem ong

once i get an rgb 4070 ill be insane

[keen nacelle]

Buyer can throw a gpu in

I almost did that a while back

[livid idol]

Ryzen 7000 series has an integrated GPU. You can get a display by plugging into the motherboard.

[lone pond]

@livid idol, oh no no, I was referring to this build

[livid idol]

Ah I see
Yeah you could sell that without a GPU no problem

[lone pond]

Well here's the issue

I live in an area where "Modern" PC's aren't common

People running stuff like 1070's and 580's and older stuff

So...

I wanna figure out a price where I can sell my rig for a reasonable price but sell fast

Depending on what that price is, that will be my budget

[random walrus]

A 1070 or 580 would work fine in that build

[random walrus]

Still modern imo

[fringe scroll]

My 1070ti ran cyberpunk's benchmark at 60fps 1440p high (quality fsr)

That was with the 4770k and 4gb of ram tho lmao

[oak rivet]

Ok

[spare relic]

8GB VRAM

[keen nacelle]

Ooh careful dude you might scare him

[spare relic]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-susie-flabbergasted-shock-fear-gif-26393493

[solid glacier]

Hey waht should i get to clean a monitor screen?

[fringe scroll]

isopropyl alcohol and a lil water works for me

dont soak it tho

Microfiber cloths are nice but most soft cloths would work

[solid glacier]

Does this work?

It’s a extra cloth that came with my glasses

Lol

[fringe scroll]

Yup

[livid idol]

As long as you don't spray the screen directly

Drips kill screens

And iso can destroy certain coatings iirc

I just use glass cleaner

[solid glacier]

does that cltih i have work

[livid idol]

yes

[solid glacier]

any word on when teh new assassin creed come oiut

[livid idol]

October maybe

I'm not playing it on principle though, it has NFTs

[spare relic]

Lmao?

[livid idol]

no cap https://decrypt.co/139938/assassins-creed-smart-collectibles-nfts-3d-printed

Oh and let's not forget, you have to buy a subscription based pass in order to have access to these NFTs. Ubisoft is doubling down on F the consumer.

[spare relic]

Tbh at this point new games are just ewaste

[livid idol]

No kidding. I've been playing Oblivion again because I know that isn't going to push ads or micro transactions, unlike most new games.

[spare relic]

Harry Potter game and the trans people situation, assassin's Creed nfts, games that are too heavy to run on hardware and too buggy to exist

What's next, subscription for them to literally take your computer away from you

[livid idol]

We already have that, it's called a console

[spare relic]

Real

[brisk flame]

nah, whats next is the xbox as a service

you pay 50/mo

xbox console, controller, and access to X% of games shipped right to your door

pay 80/mo you get access to X+Y% of all games

[livid idol]

That would almost be better than the current system of things if it includes online play

[brisk flame]

pay 100/mo you get access to 100% of the online content library plus other media crap

everything gets bundled into packages, just like how television initially evolved

in fact, your console probably wont even be all that powerful, all the games themselves will be streamed from cloud servers

once that technology evolves enough, of course

[vital oriole]

The future of you own nothing and will be happy is becoming more real than ever

[brisk flame]

like it or not, thats probably the inevitable future of gaming

[livid idol]

Sony kinda does that already, they have a sub where you can access the old PS3 library and it runs an emulator server side and streams to you

[brisk flame]

exactly

we are slowly working toward it

2050, game consoles wont run games anymore

[vital oriole]

Game consoles will probably be just an hdmi stick

[brisk flame]

ya lol

[livid idol]

Nah by then it'll be SAO style dives

Grab a headset and jack in to the server

[brisk flame]

while everyone does that ill still just be playing my atari

kek

[spare relic]

I don't want to jack into anyone

[lone pond]

where does the 4070 12gb go on this list?

[livid idol]

It's about equal to a 3080 12GB

[lone pond]

should i just get a 3080 ti lmfao

[livid idol]

If it's cheaper sure

[lone pond]

better performance + probably same price or cheaper

hard

its used but, not bad

cheaper than a 4070 ti

somewhat

[livid idol]

As long as the seller is decent that's not terrible

[heady turtle]

So is a 6950xt (and 100$ cheaper and new)

[lone pond]

Is a 6750 XT a substancial enough upgrade to justify changing from a 5700 to 6750 XT?

I was gonna get a new GPU anyways, either 7600 XT or 6700 XT/6750 XT

[heady turtle]

I'd wait and see when the 7600xt comes out what it's like

[keen nacelle]

Why not 7700xt (depending on price)

[lone pond]

If it’s gonna be a reasonable price I’ll consider it

Is there a specific date as to when it’s gonna release?

[keen nacelle]

Not that I know of but my guess would be by the end of July

[livid idol]

I haven't heard anything about a 7700 XT launch that I can remember, but I know they're holding it for a bit longer. The 7600 XT will be out first.

Probably waiting for 6800 XT stock to dry up more since it'll be the same performance more than likely

[quasi flicker]

Any recommendations for a 3080/3070 (ti/non-ti)?

[livid idol]

The cheapest one you can find is fine

Or get a 6950 XT for the same price (or better)

[quasi flicker]

After using my Gigabyte 2070 Super for almost three years I've been getting really annoyed by the quality downgrade after the two year-ish mark

Stupid issues like having to turn my computer on then turn if off and back on because it doesn't init correctly or something the first time I do after unplugging it to blow it out

[quasi flicker]

I guess my question is really which ones are known to last and have the fewest issues

I don't want to have to replace thermal paste again because it's as dry as a desert

[livid idol]

They're still too new for long term testing but there's only a couple known models to avoid, like the mech 2x 3070

[quasi flicker]

Mech?

MSI?

[livid idol]

MSI Mech 2x

Ventus I mean

[quasi flicker]

oh

[livid idol]

Mech is AMD

[quasi flicker]

huh

I always thought those were decent cheap ones

[livid idol]

Nah they use the least amount of aluminum they can put on it and say it works without throttling

[quasi flicker]

lol

[livid idol]

One of these will be good. The 6800 XT performs like the 3080. I do recommend AMD over a 3070 right now for the extra memory, it'll age WAY better with current trends. https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/XPjNnQ,nv2WGX,BM92FT,P9qPxr/

[quasi flicker]

that's a lot more

Dyno always being three seconds late

[livid idol]

ye lol

[quasi flicker]

Alright now where tf is my audio

can you function please

Wrong output

[livid idol]

Windows moment

[quasi flicker]

For some reason I have two Realtek ones

[livid idol]

Yep one front one rear

[quasi flicker]

I usually have the first one off so I see Realtek and choose it

Anyway

does AMD have anything like RTX Voice yet?

well they don't have CUDA at all either way

that's why I want an Nvidia GPU

[livid idol]

There's other software that does the same thing as rtx voice

[quasi flicker]

Other issue is that I actually do use CUDA, though

[livid idol]

It's not worth compromising the memory, there's games using 10GB of memory at 1080p medium now

Which means the 3070 turns into a stuttery mess

So if you go nvidia go for 3080 12GB

[quasi flicker]

Time to learn how to solder

[livid idol]

I can't find a 3080 12gb for less than $1k new right now so the next option would be a 4070 since it's basically the same thing

[quasi flicker]

is the 4070 three-slot?

no

[livid idol]

No

[quasi flicker]

almost looks like it is

wait wtf

why is it $600

[livid idol]

Is that more or less than you expected?

[quasi flicker]

less

I remember that's MSRP now

but still, for around 12GB 3080 performance

[livid idol]

Well the 3080 msrp was $700 so it's not really that much better

[quasi flicker]

Well that's a lot better than the current 12GB 3080 prices

[livid idol]

And that's the 10gb model since the 12gb doesn't have a msrp

Yeah it's mostly scalpers holding on to that hope someone will pay double what it's worth still

[quasi flicker]

Does the 4070 eat power?

[livid idol]

Nope

[quasi flicker]

wow

holy crap

that TDP is a lot lower

[livid idol]

Yep the tdp is more in line with what you'd expect on a midrange card

[quasi flicker]

They actually made improvements

a little

I assume the odd Passmark results are because not many people have one yet

[livid idol]

Yeah, even if it is only in RT performance and efficiency overall it is an improvement

[quasi flicker]

Better calculator than the 3080 lol

Interesting DX scores

[livid idol]

More calculators working in parallel more like

That's because of pre-launch driver issues

[quasi flicker]

But it's probably because the number of samples is a seventh of that of the 3080

[quasi flicker]

oh right

Functional drivers are very hard to make

Pre-launch is understandable but one of the last few corrupted some parts of my Windows install

On a GPU that came out in 2019

Then there's the time they screwed up GL backwards compat a few months ago

[livid idol]

Sometimes when you're on the bleeding edge you get cut

I don't update unless I have to

[quasi flicker]

the cores must be significantly faster in the 40 series

5888 vs 8960

[livid idol]

That's why the 4090 can push so many frames. Can you believe that's not even its true potential? That's a cut down die

[quasi flicker]

what

[livid idol]

Yeah the 4090 is a partially disabled GPU lol

4090 ti is going to be crazy

[quasi flicker]

Jesus

40k G3D rating on the 4090

3090 Ti is barely 30k

[spice mulch]

Is it worth selling my 3060 EVGA 12gb card for 230?

[livid idol]

That's on the low end of what they're going for on ebay

I'd call it a fair offer, especially if you're not paying platform fees like you do on ebay

[spice mulch]

and it is about 3yrs old, and i am selling locally

[spice mulch]

that sound like an ok cost?

[livid idol]

I'd take that if offered. If you haven't listed it yet list it at 275 and take an offer around 230-250

[spice mulch]

no someone is already comming by i was just wondering if I was too generous and I should fell bad about myself

[livid idol]

Oh no that price is fair for both of you

[spice mulch]

ok cuz i bought it for 550

[livid idol]

And it has a msrp of $330

[spice mulch]

ok so im not giving away my money

[livid idol]

It's fair, especially since you're not paying ebay fees

[spice mulch]

cool

[robust plume]

Could my game keep freezing cause of the gpu?

[keen nacelle]

it could freeze because of any part

ssd, psu, gpu, cpu

ram

hell could even be case/cpu cooler causing cpu to overheat causing lag

can you send a list of your computer in pcpartpicker.com?

or a link to it if it's a pre built

[robust plume]

I tried restall8ng the drivers for the gpu

I've gotten a new sdd

[robust plume]

Sure

Give me a sec

[keen nacelle]

hey just checking up in case you forgot to send it but made it?

[robust plume]

I had to search far and long for it my bad.

Here's the link

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LzzvTn

[keen nacelle]

I'd say first upgrade should be cpu yes

but most of that pc isn't the best

also is it the 1650s or 1650 you're using?

[robust plume]

1650

[keen nacelle]

ehh

what games and resolution do you play at?

[robust plume]

Any ideas on why the pc crashes when playing

1080p

[keen nacelle]

crashing, that could be anything. Is it just crashing or lagging?

[robust plume]

Wz, unturned, gta v,

[robust plume]

Hold on

Someone's calling me

[keen nacelle]

kk

[robust plume]

I'll be quick

[keen nacelle]

It could be anything really, but first thing I'd say is run a chkdsk and sfc/scannow in command prompt

[robust plume]

What's that and is there a tutorial

It's crashing

[spare relic]

Open start menu, run cmd

[keen nacelle]

Type "cmd" into windows search bar

And run it as admin

Then type sfc/scannow into the window that types up

Let that run until it finished, then type chkdsk

[spare relic]

Yeah I forget that almost every time

[keen nacelle]

(Press enter after typing each one)

[keen nacelle]

Same lmao

I open it and try to run smthn and then realize lol

[spare relic]

Yep

[robust plume]

Snap I'm not at home

[keen nacelle]

That's fine, just whenever you can

[robust plume]

What does this do tho

[keen nacelle]

My next guess would be turn xmp off, and see if it continues (if you have jt on)

That just scans your drive and windows install for issues

[robust plume]

Ok

[livid idol]

4060 ti might have a 8GB and 16GB model. Reminder, the 4070 has 12GB. Feels a lot like the 3060 vs 3060 ti.

[scenic marten]

is there anything i can do with some old video cards, like a radeon hd 5770 and a xfx 6850 deepcool

[spare relic]

Yeah

Basic display adapter

Play old games

There's some stuff you can do with them

[livid idol]

I use a 5770 in my homebrew server. Sometimes I'll put it in an old PC to do retro gaming.

That was my first GPU too, I was a console gamer before that

[spare relic]

Hearing Homebrew only to get the disappointing realization it isn't referring to the indie vehicle physics sandbox game on steam

I forget what my brother's old GPU is

5570 or 5770

[livid idol]

Well I do run a minecraft server off it, does that count?

[scenic marten]

hmm wonder if i can do small budget build and make someone happy with a small build while i can make some profit

[livid idol]

You can often find a nearly complete older but still relevant PC for cheap that simply has no GPU, because it was harvested during the shortages

Or get an old Dell workstation for $150 and slap it in that

[lone pond]

its crazy how cheap the secondary flagship can be so cheap 2nd hand

thats absolutely insane

1080 is lower priced than 2060 in some cases

but almost always cheaper than 2060s

[velvet grail]

and i paid 380 for a 2080 last summer :(

[heady turtle]

Not hugely, it's basically a 3060 without dlss and RT

[lone pond]

on a budget im not too worried about RT but the frame generation thing amd is coming out with to be used on any gpu should make up for dlss

1080 at that kind of price is still insane

[heady turtle]

Frame gen has been iffy from nv anyway

Actually 1080 is worse than 3060, 1080ti is about a 3060

[lone pond]

half the price of a 3060 tho

still 1080 + fsx 3.0 = RTX 3060 - RT

should be basically the same

[heady turtle]

I don't think fsr 3.0 will be any gpu

3060s would be a meh choice to buy used, I'd either go for 1080ti/2070 super/2080/5700xt/6600xt/6650xt

30 series pricing sucked and still does

[keen nacelle]

5700xt tends to have the best used prices out of those for price/perf

[lone pond]

yeah but you got the risk of having a pressure washed mining gpu

[keen nacelle]

...

[heady turtle]

It'll depend on country but in the US from what I've seen yeah

[keen nacelle]

Ok.

[lone pond]

most of amds 6000/5000 series are either badly priced or 99% mining gpus 2nd hand

[heady turtle]

Just buy from a reputable marketplace like ebay or ask for proof of it working

[keen nacelle]

Mining does not damage a gpu when done properly

Which normally is

[lone pond]

they pressure wash them

[keen nacelle]

No they do not

[heady turtle]

Nothing wrong with a mining gpu, usually better care than any other person

[heady turtle]

1 person did that

[keen nacelle]

I have no idea where the hell you got that idea from but it is not true

[heady turtle]

Also technically washing them would be fine if they were left to fully dry

[lone pond]

just checked it out they are actually more expensive than 1080 and have less performance, though they seem to have alot more room for overclocking potential

160 quid cheapest

170-180 average

[heady turtle]

They don't have less perf

[lone pond]

basically the same

slightly less

[heady turtle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/903768190717411339/1075245347657486426/image.png

Higher than the stock 1080

[lone pond]

god

userbenchmark is just lying out of its teeth

"101% 1080"

[heady turtle]

UBM SUCKKLKSSS

?ubm

[lone pond]

i know not to trust the intel vs amd stuff but biased with nvidia aswell?

[neat venture]

`UserBenchmark is NOT a reliable source of information and has been blanket banned in many hardware communities such as r/hardware and r/intel for what started as an anti-AMD bias but has spiraled into delusion.

In fact, they tried so hard to skew results in favor of Intel's midrange that they even cannibalized Intel's own high end. For example, according to UserBenchmark, the i3-9350K is rated higher than the i9-10980XE.

For a similarly convenient quick-and-dirty hardware comparison website, we recommend using PassMark instead of UserBenchmark.

PassMark CPU comparison: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
PassMark GPU comparison: https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
Want to know more?: https://youtu.be/RQSBj2LKkWg`

[heady turtle]

Sucks for everything

[vital oriole]

^

Very bad comparisons

[lone pond]

yeah imma just get a 5700xt for this build

okay now the model

id like to get a sapphire since theyre the highest rated 5700xt

but an OEM model would be nice

180 average on saphire

[vital oriole]

that's a pretty decent price

i wouldn't do oem on that gpu tbh, they get pretty hot and loud

[lone pond]

similar for an oem / other brands

sapphire it is

nitro+

almost no difference but SE will have higher resale value so ill look for a default one

25mhz difference

i can probably do 10mhz over SE factory overclock with default

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/jQVGKp

[heady turtle]

Stock clock differences don't matter a single bit

[hot bough]

This is cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D24ueW8G0-w

[stoic quiver]

im looking for a 3060 3070 graphics card to upgrade my current one. i just dont know which one is best price to performance to buy. (my budget $300 - $400)

[stoic quiver]

yea i want a nvidia gpu, but which 3070 like the company and whatever

[keen nacelle]

The cheapest that isn't ventus 2x

[stoic quiver]

what?

[hot folio]

Doesn’t matter the AIB as long as it isn’t ventus

[stoic quiver]

ok

thanks

[orchid jay]

Hi

[long ocean]

so right now I have a RX 6700 XT

what would be a good improvement

[long ocean]

gaming mostly - I work in design so maybe video editing, but I use my rig mostly for gamign

gaming*

i have a ryzen 9 5900x CPU and I feel like im not necessarily getting the frames out of games I should be

but could be wrong

[livid idol]

What's your budget for an upgrade? The RTX 4070 would be a good move, Nvidia plays nice with video editing apps

And what memory do you have because that directly affects Ryzen performance, especially a dual CCD like yours

[long ocean]

32 GB

no budget really - just lookin for a nice birthday present 🙂

[livid idol]

32gb what speed and timings?

I still say a 4070 or maybe a 4070 ti for the GPU but I want to make sure you're getting as much out of that CPU as possible

[long ocean]

3200MHz ddr4

[livid idol]

Ok that's hurting your performance by as much as 15% in some games

[long ocean]

really? what would you recommend for memory?

[livid idol]

Yes really, the infinity fabric is how the processor communicates between cores and CCDs and its speed is determined by memory speed. With a dual CCD model processor like yours it's even more important to prevent stuttering.

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/zcH8TW,Y9QcCJ,8xKKHx,Rdstt6/

Yeah the ti is mostly if you want to splurge, a 4070 can do 1440p ultra in almost everything

[long ocean]

would I have problems with my AMD CPU?

[livid idol]

The CPU and GPU don't care about each other

[long ocean]

1440p on one monitor, 1080 on another

thank you very much - is it a sizeable jump that you think I'll notice

i play cod and get around 90ish as well as destiny and get like 120

[heady turtle]

Are you positive your ram is running at xmp and with what gpu?

[livid idol]

Very noticeable, in cod in particular you'll get much smoother frame rates in addition to higher frame rates with this upgrade

[heady turtle]

Oh nvm i see, honestly depending on your settings it'll depend if it's cpu or gpu needed

I get 140ish with a 13600k and 3060ti (with dlss)

It's heavy to run on both

[long ocean]

is there any benefit to going higher with the memory?

[livid idol]

Yes less stuttering, it'll appear smoother, especially in high action scenarios

Oh do you mean higher than 3600? No

[long ocean]

yeah

okay

[livid idol]

There's a sweet spot for ryzen and it's between 3600 and 4000. Not every chip is guaranteed to like 4000 and you can't really find 3800 kits so 3600 is the go to.

[heady turtle]

Honestly bigger improvement than that would probably be optimising settings if your settings aren't optimised

[hot bough]

If a CPU does not like higher frequency would it cause the PC to like just go nope I ain't gonna do nothin for you and freeze until you restart the machine?

I couldn't get my CPU to work with 4000 but 3933 works fine.

[fringe scroll]

Me with 3733

[hot bough]

Gonna try tightening the timings this weekend since I don't think my CPU likes any frequency beyond 3933.

[livid idol]

You would get WHEA errors trying to run fclk above where your specific CPU can run. This can manifest as freezing and crashes or something unnoticeable like a loss of performance

Run a CPU test with hwinfo open, at the bottom of the list it shows WHEA count. 1 error means it fails.

[hot bough]

FCLK and infinity Fabric were synced.

[livid idol]

fclk is infinity fabric, do you mean mclk?

[hot bough]

Oh my bad, there were 2 sections one said FCLK the other said infinity Fabric.

[livid idol]

Yeah AMD boards are weird about that, they have 2 different overclocking sections (sometimes 3!) and they all do the same thing

Just, different names for the same thing and possibly one is in decimal and the other in hexadecimal

[hot bough]

In any case FCLK was synced and I was able to go above 2000 FCLK but my ram would not go beyond 3933mhz without causing my whole system to freeze when trying to go into windows then requiring a full CMOS reset to get out of it.

3933 runs completely fine without problems though.

[hasty sphinx]

Which white 4090 should I go for? I don't know what all ones there are, but I need something that stays cool and at least looks decent. I don't wanna pay that strix tax.

[vital oriole]

If you really insist on 4090, all aibs are decent tbh

All of the 40 series is overbuilt

A 180w gpu such as 4070 is oversized for the cooling capacity it needs

Just mentioning as an example

Yeah

4070ti doesn't need 3 fans and massive heatsinks

But here we are

stubby 4070ti model when

[keen nacelle]

Just wait, watch there be a Phoenix 4070 ti

[vital oriole]

lmao

I just wanna see an asus dual 4070ti kinda gpu

One fan sounds like a loud nightmare

[heavy pendant]

Mine is Inno3D

[keen nacelle]

Phoenix 4070 ti but with an otherwise strix shroud

[heavy pendant]

70c max on the core

66c G6X (though it's overclocked)

82c max hotspot

[vital oriole]

that's pretty cool

cool for being in itx case too

if it was in a tower, i bet it'll run cooler

nvidia really overbuilt the gpus

or well told the aibs to

[heavy pendant]

I have my G6X set to 24gbps

which is pretty nice tbh

[vital oriole]

3090 do be hungry af doe

[heavy pendant]

eh

it's not too bad

[vital oriole]

for sure

cheapest way to get 24

6950xt has 16, sadge

not like it's good for workstation anyway

[livid idol]

New/current leaks:
4060 ti 8GB $400 launching this month, compares with 3070.
16GB model price TBA, launches late next month.
4060 $300-330 launches early next month, compares to 3060 ti.
RX 7600 8GB $300 (may go down more) launches this month, 25th probably.

[vital oriole]

not too bad

$400 4060ti is what i expected

okay not the best version, but still

[hasty sphinx]

That's what I plan to do.

[hasty sphinx]

any particular one in white that you can think of?

[vital oriole]

Gigabyte aero

[livid idol]

TLOU uses 14-15GB on absolute max settings at 4k so a 16GB card is still plenty, just sayin

[vital oriole]

The aero looks to be cheapest rn

Still above msrp but yeah

Only msrp 4090 is zotac trinity

Which has no white version rn

[hasty sphinx]

what is msrp for a 4090?

[vital oriole]

1599

[livid idol]

$1600 💀

[hasty sphinx]

considering the price.. 150 over isn't so bad

[livid idol]

That is an additional 10%

Which is less than the tax in some places at least

[vital oriole]

Other white 4090s are well

Strix

[hasty sphinx]

true, the one from B&H is offering free 1 day shipping as well as Diablo IV

[vital oriole]

Which are 2.2k

Big ouch

[livid idol]

That appears to be below msrp too

[vital oriole]

ye

1579

[cyan vault]

Texture mods 🙏

I can eat up 20 on some games

[lilac cave]

Ya'll think a RX 6650 XT would last me five years or more for 1080p gaming?

[livid idol]

https://tenor.com/view/8ball-bart-simpson-shaking-shake-magic-ball-gif-17725278

[fringe scroll]

You're supposed to see the future falcie

[heady turtle]

Also gonna depend on the settings of the game

[long ocean]

where would I even begin? lol

is it general graphics card settings or in-game settings?

[livid idol]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[oak rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-25423213

[heady turtle]

In game, what quality settings mainly are you using, also if fsr 2.0 is available for use use that

[hasty sphinx]

Is anyone able to help me find out if the Aorus Master 3080 12gb has the same pcb as a 3080 ti?

or even the 10gb model?

[livid idol]

It looks like all the 3080 and 3090 models of the aorus master and extreme have close enough pcb layouts for them to be intercompatible, at least according to EKWB. The extreme is just a little longer, and 3090s have backside memory.

[hasty sphinx]

That's what I was thinking. I'm wanting to watercool my 3080 12gb and I can't find any other brand except EK that says it's compatible.

I have everything else ready to go in the carts waiting to be bought, but I've been holding off, looking for another block

[livid idol]

I know that the 10 and 12GB models are definitely the same, it's literally just a couple extra memory chips in slots that are vacant in the 10GB

[hasty sphinx]

Now I'm just trying to find a leak tester that won't break the bank to only be used a couple times lol

[livid idol]

I just use a bicycle pump that I have on hand

[hasty sphinx]

I don't have one of those either XD although I should prob get one.

How do you connect it to the loop?

[livid idol]

rubber grommet

Just need the right size

You could probably use a car leak tester and attach a pc fitting to the end

[hasty sphinx]

meh, I'm already spending so much I may as well make it easy on myself and just get the tester. It's through amazon so........

😛

[livid idol]

Yeah $30 isn't bad https://www.amazon.com/EKWB-3831109816738-EK-Leak-Tester/dp/B07WGDW2K5

[hasty sphinx]

yeah that's what I just added to my cart xD

[hasty sphinx]

Sitting at $780 and I still need to add the rest of the tubing and a heat gun. I wonder if a hair dryer will work......

[livid idol]

Hair dryers don't give you the fine control needed to bend hard tubing without blistering

It could work but it'll be a lot harder and you'll have more wasted tubing

[hasty sphinx]

Even with that beefy heatsink, my card runs hot, even on games that don't really push it.

I don't even have thermal headroom to OC even the slightest

but I'm buying a cheaper block for the GPU. It's literally everything else that costs so much, but can be used in the future.

minus 2 tubes if they don't fit the measurements needed for a card in the future.

[spare relic]

Just blow on it harder

[hasty sphinx]

yeah, I didn't think it would work well. Was total sarcasm. I think my ex has a heat gun that I can use.

[hasty sphinx]

I have excellent airflow. I'm not paying $800 to watercool my GPU just to OC it. I'm paying to watercool my whole PC. I could skip the GPU, but for only $100.. why not? It's not like I'm wasting the whole $800.. it can be used when I upgrade my GPU to 50 series.

Just for some reason my card runs hot. I'm not worried about it, I just want a custom loop. Always have so I'm gonna do it.

It would cost more, but I got the tubing(most of)/fittings/plugs/pump/reservoir for a 1/3 of the normal cost.

[heady turtle]

4060 and ti announcements are... Weird 400$ 4060ti and 500$ 4060ti 💀

[fringe scroll]

3060ti was 400

[heady turtle]

Yes but there's 2 different 4060tis at a 100$ diff

[fringe scroll]

Wth 😭

[heady turtle]

Saw a leak and it looked like a 3070ti, id so imma be pretty disappointed

https://youtu.be/cQPGh2L6rB0

[heady turtle]

Ong

[livid idol]

At least they're not pulling a 4080 12GB again. 4060 ti 8GB will be identical to the 16GB except for the memory. Maybe they can learn from some mistakes?

They really jacked up the L2 cache though. 4MB to 32MB over the 3060 ti.

[vital oriole]

sheesh

lotsa cache