graphics-cards

[livid idol]

It probably loaded some auto script for a registry fix when you changed the settings and whoever coded the script forgot to put the silent flag

[solid glacier]

Trying a game rn

issuses still here

[livid idol]

Dang

[solid glacier]

yea issues are definally still there lol

is this normal?

[livid idol]

https://tenor.com/view/im-done-towel-throw-in-damn-finished-gif-16937450

[livid idol]

yes

[solid glacier]

my mouse corsor is now running ike crap

[livid idol]

Monitor settings are still correct?

Maybe change it to 120hz and back to full again

[solid glacier]

I restarted it fixed it

so is that set up pin always gonna be there on start up

[livid idol]

No

[solid glacier]

alright well i restarted and it was there still

[livid idol]

You can turn tpm back on if you want

[solid glacier]

should i turn it on or nah

[livid idol]

Might as well leave it on since it doesn't hurt

[solid glacier]

yea

idk what ti can be

so stuck

Guess its time to pay 150 to powergpu lol

-150

[solid glacier]

look at cached

now look at this cached

[livid idol]

You can ignore cached for most purposes

[fading glacier]

have you tried rolling back to old video drivers?

just saying

[solid glacier]

Like old gpu drivers

The only solution I had was reinstalling a fresh windows which fixed my problems for like a few days and then it comes back

[fading glacier]

uh

[solid glacier]

yeaaa

[solid glacier]

uhh

why is my voltage all over the place

[orchid loom]

bc its noit gunna be stable

hmm i love being voltage capped

[solid glacier]

i dont get what your saying lol should i cap it or...

[orchid loom]

idle its gunna be like that

your volatge is fine jumping around at idle

[solid glacier]

that isnt idle

thats while gaming

[orchid loom]

your using 36W

i dont think thats gaming

[solid glacier]

yea bc i alt tabbed to take the screenshot so it shot down to 36w

[orchid loom]

[fading glacier]

its normal

[orchid loom]

im upset im getting voltage capped while getting 60FPS in my game only 😡

[fading glacier]

its normal for a gpu to dial its own voltage/wattage usage

[solid glacier]

thats nomral for gaming for my voltages to be spiking like that

[fading glacier]

yes

not every frame is equal

smoke screens as an example draw more power

[solid glacier]

weird hm

then yea idk waht the problem ios then

[orchid loom]

I love using all my voltage at low wattage

[solid glacier]

no i mean like my fps problems

[fading glacier]

this is my voltage behavior

nvidia card tho

[fading glacier]

your fps problems are pretty strange indeed, every setting we see is ok

even those you think are weird, in fact are ok

to me the problem lies between your monitor and your gpu, but that should be checked on site sadly

[solid glacier]

Ya excatly

And I even sent it out for a RMA

[fading glacier]

hopefully youll get a better card this time

[solid glacier]

no i mean like

i already RMAed the card

before

and they said it waas fine

[fading glacier]

hmmm

[solid glacier]

yeaa

[fading glacier]

so, what's your plan now? it is clear that we exhausted every available idea to help you remotely

[solid glacier]

rn its either

buy a new gpu to see if that solves it but gatta sell this one first

or sell my whole rig and quit gaming bc iv had these problems since iv built the thing

or call gigabyte and demand a new gpu to be sent out

[solid glacier]

the 6900xt seems like its better in 1440p than the 3080..?

[hasty sphinx]

Are you going for the highest fps possible? the 3080 12gb is a high end card capable of playing any game at 1440p with high fps.

AMD has issues, as you know from experience at this point. It could be something as simple as the AMD drivers not meshing with something in your system. With the amount of troubleshooting you've done, it's clear that AMD is just not going to work in your build.

[solid glacier]

Correct

[solid glacier]

and yes i want similar fps ot my6900xt

[hasty sphinx]

The cards are going to vary by the game.. 6900xt wins some/ 3080 12gb wins some and in others they are pretty evenly matched.

You won't regret going with the 3080 12gb over the 6900xt..

[solid glacier]

alright cool

im Gonna go ahead and order thatr 3080

bc if it still have problems ill just return it

[hasty sphinx]

good idea.

[cedar comet]

If anyone remembers i had this issue with my GPU a while back and thanks to @livid idol he helped me out with my issue by informing me of the program DDU. Well it's been roughly 2 months and my issue came back. I followed the steps i was given last time and this time around it doesn't seem to be solving the issue. Anyone happen to have any ideas on what else i might try? I've changed absolutely nothing on my pc. Nothing installed, nothing uninstalled, no game settings changed on any games, i'm just... at this point i might as well be drawing my games in a flip book because it's virtually the effect I'm getting.

What's weird to me is that all FPS counters in the games I've played are saying 60fps locked, maybe 1 or 2 dip but always goes back. I did attempt to turn off vsynch just for the hell of it and i actually stopped skipping frames but the gargantuan tear ripping through the screen rendered all my games unplayable. It made me concerned it was my monitor but video works fine with 0 issues, and I have my backup 1050TI that the issue does not occur on.

[delicate oyster]

The problem isn't finding the best, but finding what works for what you play... I am looking for the primo in the 30s that will replace my ancient 1070... But when do you think that will go optimal with the 40s coming out?

[fading glacier]

40 series are out since last year

[oak rivet]

Think he means the full stack of 40 series

The smaller family members aren't out yet

[heady turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/theres-always-room-for-family-family-first-family-is-important-theres-always-time-for-family-household-gif-16055741

[odd siren]

https://youtu.be/ICJ9QeXMiHY

[orchid loom]

MORE FPS

[oak rivet]

Frame generation is your friend

[heady turtle]

Damm i though frame generation was food

[wicked hound]

Anything is food if you're brave enough

[solid glacier]

what about a 4070ti?

[fading glacier]

good one if you find it cheap

cheapest will go for 850+

[solid glacier]

Question guys I had windows 10 pro and I upgraded to 11 so@im installing a fresh windows install, do I choose windows 11 home? Bc I checked and when I upgraded it only said windows 11

[solid glacier]

That’s how muchkuch it is

[heady turtle]

if you have pro install pro

[solid glacier]

I had windows 10 pro

Not 11

[heady turtle]

same thing

[solid glacier]

Oh

You sure?

When I upgraded it said inonly had windows 11

[heady turtle]

uninstall all that msi bloatware and install them manually from the site for audio etc and then for anything intel, chipset, wifi etc use intels driver updater

[heady turtle]

windows keys are the exact same for 7-11

[solid glacier]

Okay then I gatta redo it bc I chose windows 11 home not pro

So choose windows 11 pro

[fathom bridge]

I need help with pc after installed my rx550 in my dell and when I went to turn on it was not detecting a boot software but when I did a test start without it after I bought it started just fine

does anyone know if its anything to do with the GPU

[solid glacier]

Bet

So Unclick everything

[fathom bridge]

id kinda like to get it up and running so I can hopefully run vr

[solid glacier]

Why can’t I start fresh

?

[heady turtle]

thats what setup as new device is

or if you mean theres also the usb method

[solid glacier]

Oh I mean

It saved my search history though

But nothing is downloaded etc

[heady turtle]

if you signed into chrome or edge or whatever thats it

[solid glacier]

Oh Ight then I’m good

What do you think about the 4070 ti vs 3080

[solid glacier]

I resetted windows again

And it’s back to smooth

Something in windows or idk have to be causing it

Maybe it’s windows downloading something? Should I turn off drivers for windows

[heady turtle]

Worth a try

[fading glacier]

like 10% more performance, not counting dlss3 and rtx

if you are going brand new then go the extra mile and get a 4070ti

3080 is the better deal if you buy one used at like 550 so so

much much better deal

[solid glacier]

Oh okay

Buying used is risky though

[orchid loom]

so the gpu can do 0RPM at 300W+ but if gpu hits 90C it drops power to 300W

[dense cliff]

Was wondering, when changing to an AMD gpu do I just need to uninstall GeForce Experience and the driver and no other programs?

*from Nvidia

[hasty sphinx]

?ddu

[neat venture]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[dense cliff]

k, will use that, also, do I have to boot into safe mode or just boot straight in after installing card?

[hasty sphinx]

straight into after installing card.

[languid heart]

My card is 333MM lol

[hasty sphinx]

just sand off 3mm xD

[orchid loom]

Um

[oak rivet]

The fans should kick in at 50c

[languid heart]

No way

I need to min/max this build and have it future proof as much as I possibly can

I don’t give AF about RGB I just want the best of the best for the value. Keeping in mind of new technologies and standards as well as the latest platforms

[languid heart]

4070 Ti no matter the situation

[umbral granite]

Honestly this. Maybe if you can find an amazing price on a 3080 it would be worth it. If it was a 3090 vs. 4070-Ti it’d be more of a debate

[hasty sphinx]

that dlss3 for future proof though

[fading glacier]

future proofing is a lie

dont fall for it

[fading glacier]

wrong, a used 3080 can be found as low as 500 usd while providing 10% less performance from the 4070ti at 850usd

new to new, ofc the 4070ti any day... but no one should be buying a 30 series new rn

[oak rivet]

frame generation would help the cards in the long run is a better wording

[fading glacier]

im pretty sure that the 40 series is just a stopgap

and the 50 series will be teased by the end of this year

[vital oriole]

next gen will also get much better frame gen

[fading glacier]

that being said frame generation could end as a testing ground for a groundbreaking tech on the 50 series cards

TLDR: no future proofing

when next gen hits, your 4090 will be as fast as the next 5070ti... just as this gen was

[vital oriole]

40 series is merely a stop gap

[fading glacier]

much like the 4070ti to the 3090

[vital oriole]

50 will also feature mcm

[fading glacier]

if you are on 30 series, just wait patiently

heck even 20 series

not only the price is stacked against the consumers, but also the speed of developments

if you think about it even 10 series users should avoid ada, they can easily snatch a 30 series on the used market

like a 3080 at 500usd so so as i said before

[vital oriole]

and 2 years later, get 50 series

[fading glacier]

yup, im pretty sure 50 series will be teased at the end of this year and the first 50 series card will be out by march 2024 so so

[vital oriole]

doubt it, but they should definitely come out 2 years later

[fading glacier]

kinda, the gpu cycle is 18-20 months

[vital oriole]

after all the lower skus releases

[fading glacier]

but ada being this unpopular, could be shorter

[vital oriole]

it could ye

after all it's a stopgap

[odd siren]

I quite like ada tbh

[vital oriole]

the only massive gains are within 4070ti or better

[fading glacier]

ada wafers were bought in the middle of the gpu crisis

[odd siren]

It's too good for itself

[fading glacier]

thats why its so expensive

[vital oriole]

like the hardware, hate the price

[odd siren]

The price is yuck tho

Yeah

[fading glacier]

but the next 50 series mcm wafers should be cheaper, thus cheaper cards

[odd siren]

Nah knowing nvidia

It'll go up again

[fading glacier]

dont think so, ada is unpopular cause of that

[vital oriole]

or stay the same IF radeon does a better job with the price

[odd siren]

Unless it's such a wreck of a gen with ada you won't see a drop

[fading glacier]

they will try to underdeliver to lower prices

[oak rivet]

ada is unpopular but man those 4090 and 4070ti sales say otherwise

[odd siren]

Turing was bad enough post gpu mining boom that we got ampere

But ampere was so good we got ada

The market will tell you what happens

[vital oriole]

nvidia took notes of radeon 7000 pricing

[odd siren]

Yup

[vital oriole]

and took it to their advantage

[odd siren]

They're ready to drop their prices too

[vital oriole]

so i pray radeon does better pricing

[odd siren]

They know amd is a bit of a threat rn

[vital oriole]

so that nvidia would not cash in

hell nvidia can still drop and make profit

[fading glacier]

hahaha so many clickbaits on youtube about PRICE CUTS!

4090s are getting price cuts from 2000usd to 1999usd

OMG

[oak rivet]

there will always be a premium on geforce gpus due to the feature set advantage

[vital oriole]

arc price cut is real at least

but they're not a threat at all

to be fair it's their first entry

[fading glacier]

this gen amd is closing the gap

so that "always" will end soon

[oak rivet]

fsr 3 needs to be a frame gen competitor

[fading glacier]

amd is slowly getting into the productivity apps

[vital oriole]

amd already closed the gap this gen, just the real disadvantage rn is no av1 support

the cards has av1 but the softwares doesn't support em yet

i wouldn't put hope on dlss 3 since it's minor compared to what's coming

it's child's play compared to the next dlss

[fading glacier]

yup

ada is just a testing ground for dlss3

[vital oriole]

by then nvidia will have a major edge

and ofc abuse their price with it

unless radeon 8000 becomes a threat

with aggressive pricing and gains

but this i very much doubt pricing wise

intel is our only hope for cheap gpus

[oak rivet]

but the perf tier they offer is not really enticing imo

they need a 6900xt,3090,4070ti performing card imho

[vital oriole]

im talking about next gen intel anyway

that'll happen

[oak rivet]

at 500$ with 16gb vram

[odd siren]

Lowkey agree and hope battlemage does this

[vital oriole]

no need for $500, just $400 and it'll happen

if battlemage nails it

[oak rivet]

the 3050 seems soo close in price to a 3060

but in the recent games i see it seems to have like half the performance to a 3060 12gb

[odd siren]

3050 shouldn't exist

[vital oriole]

it did and everyone bought it anyway

[odd siren]

It never once has been a good buy

[vital oriole]

moners

[odd siren]

$130 and it starts making sense

[vital oriole]

i demand it to be priced 200 or lower

but ah well

[fading glacier]

ive heard that battlemage was cancelled already, and celestial will have heavy delays

[odd siren]

200 you can get a 6600

[fading glacier]

the budget thing on intel hit hard on the gpu department

[vital oriole]

battlemage is delayed, not cancelled yet

next gen will just be alchemist refresh sadly

[odd siren]

The guys running the show say different things tho

[vital oriole]

but it's just a rumor

[fading glacier]

yeah everything at this point are just rumors

[odd siren]

MLID started the whole cancelled arc rumour mill

To the point intel actually refuted it

[oak rivet]

intel might also have to ramp up the speed on how many games have xess coz it seems to be better then fsr on arc gpus

[odd siren]

I think considering how many years of RnD and their persistence to driver updates I have my doubts arc has an uncertain future

Xess is good

Their rt perf is good

AV1 is incredible

Honestly they aren't slouching, they just don't have something complete yet

[oak rivet]

the last two AAA games to release had day one Xess which is nice to see

[vital oriole]

i feel confident in intel

[odd siren]

Intel is putting a lot of stock into this situation

[vital oriole]

they released more drivers in a year than anyone else

and quality had been going up

[oak rivet]

but i am seeing they are suffering a bit financially

[odd siren]

By factors of multitudes

Oh yeah profit loss

Oh well

[vital oriole]

loss of profit doesn't mean losing money

they still gain money

[odd siren]

Recession expects loss

[vital oriole]

just less of it

[odd siren]

Lots of that went to AXU ok

But they're investing

[vital oriole]

idk why people are panicking over lower profit

it's still a profit

just not a record high

[odd siren]

Intel was making losses not long before

[oak rivet]

its just some rumours of them ceasing to exist

[odd siren]

Alder lake saved them

Sapphire rapids genuinely looking amazing

Pat Gelsinger really led the charge to change the tune of Intel

Under the previous CEO intel was going to close their desktop segment iirc

[vital oriole]

AMD left TR scene

it's a shame

they got complacent

[odd siren]

Intel is bringing hedt back

[vital oriole]

hedt is ded for amd

intel reviving it

[odd siren]

Also amd just brought out zen 3 tr

Uhhh

[vital oriole]

you can oc the xeon again lol

[odd siren]

[vital oriole]

at least the buyable ones

[odd siren]

Intel hedt stonks

@last barn buy a 2023 intel hedt

[vital oriole]

64 lanes even on the 6c/12t ones

granted they're oem only

but still 64 lanes for entire sapphire rapids lineup

[oak rivet]

what will the single core perf be like

[last barn]

i might lol

[odd siren]

It's hedt, you don't really worry as much about that

[last barn]

it'd still be excellent

[odd siren]

It'll be good but not 13th gen

Yeah

[last barn]

plus most of the chips are unlocked so...

[vital oriole]

better than hoping in amd bringing back tr

tr went oem

[last barn]

not that many people would be OCing the high core count ones very much lol

realistically anyway

for practical use i mean

[odd siren]

What matters more is the platform expansion, ram expansion, lanes, storage etc

[vital oriole]

intel hedt you can actually buy

and the fact that the chipset is shared

and same socket too

[odd siren]

Chiplet stonk

[vital oriole]

it's stonks

intel actually doing a good job with hedt?

that's sick

used tr is piss expensive

[last barn]

its a little too early to be saying that

[vital oriole]

true, but i doubt it's gonna be a big flop

not 13th gen perf obv

[last barn]

single core you mean?

[vital oriole]

ye

[livid idol]

Considering it's been delayed over 2 years and it's based on 10nm (Intel 7) I'd expect between 11th and 12th gen single core

Which is still a MAJOR improvement over Intel's last offering when they threw their hands up in the air in surrender to threadripper

(and consequently lost a large chunk of market share)

[vital oriole]

ye

still a good move accounting for the delays

[livid idol]

AMD got fat on their monopoly over HEDT/server, so Intel coming in with strong competition can only be good for us

If they can just beat TR 5000 then they'll have 9-12 months to enjoy the crown before 7000 comes out

[vital oriole]

tr pro also became oem only

it's a shame

there's no tr 5000 an average person with a small business can get

it's possible, yes, but they come in very limited quantity

[oak rivet]

https://twitter.com/CapFrameX/status/1626912082464583680?t=C_RyZeKPUeuHiqt0nqHdZg&s=19

CapFrameX (@CapFrameX)

The driver devs at @IntelGraphics are always busy. New beta diver 31.0.101.4125 with optimizations for

▶️ Company of Heroes 3
▶️ The Settlers: New Allies
▶️ Atomic Heart
▶️ Wild Hearts
▶️ Like A Dragon: Ishin

https://t.co/mTNCAbBDRR

Twitter · Feb 18, 2023, 11:50 AM

[jovial turret]

Yo anyone else have an issue with your AMD drivers not being compatible with the new windows update I have tried every fix I can find and none of them have worked!

[livid idol]

Roll back the update

[jovial turret]

Windows update? It AMD updated?

*or

[livid idol]

Yes the Windows update

Then to prevent it from reinstalling you can pause the updates

[jovial turret]

Dope I will try that!

Not sure how but after doing that it’s worse

[livid idol]

DDU time then

?ddu

[neat venture]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[livid idol]

That fixes all sorts of weird issues

[jovial turret]

Thanks! I will try it!

I tried to boot into safe mode and now my computer won’t even post

[livid idol]

Well that's not supposed to happen

That Windows update must have done a number on your system

Clear cmos and try to get back into Windows, you may have to do a pc reset (keeping files intact)

?cmos

[neat venture]

How to clear CMOS (works for AMD and Intel)
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025368/processors.html

[jovial turret]

I just got done doing that it booted up in safe mode I am going to try the ddu now

So I am having trouble with the ddu file when I try to extract it it asks me to say yes to all and when I click that it just goes away

[livid idol]

Tick the box for "show extracted files"

[jovial turret]

I don’t have a box for that

Nm I got it

When it did the restart it said something did not go as planned no need to worry undoing changes is this something I have to worry about or is it normal after ddu

[livid idol]

Sounds like it tried to update windows again but failed, nothing to worry about

[jovial turret]

Well I still can’t use 2 displays but I can actually play a game now😂

Nm I got it figured out

[livid idol]

Cool. Glad it's working for you. It was a little touch and go for a minute.

[oak rivet]

https://youtu.be/hV2qPHvtIF4

Seems like even with a 10400f I will get a huge perf uplift from my current gpu with a 4070ti

[livid idol]

Yeah at higher resolutions and detail the CPU matters less in intense graphics games like that. You'll especially see a boost in RT.

[oak rivet]

It got like 70 fps avg here with frame gen fps would be upwards of 100 or much more

Jensen helping people with older cpus 💪

[keen nacelle]

A gpu existing that gets a number of frames with your cpu means f all about "Jensen helping people"

[heady turtle]

Mr nv cares about 2 things, money and money

[odd siren]

Jensin Impact

[solid glacier]

How long should I shut down before using shift and clicking shutdown? For it fully shuts eveyrhting down like how many times should I use the shift and shutdown instead of regular shutting the Pc down? At the end of eveyr week or? Bc I’m if I regular shut down my pc components are still on

[fading glacier]

o.O

you should turn off your pc when not in use

[solid glacier]

:|

[solid glacier]

I’m asking how long should I do a regular shut down for pc holding shift while shutting down, shuts all the components off

Like how many times should I do it? Everytime I get off the pc or

[fading glacier]

first time i heard that

usually i touch the power button once and the pc shut down itself

[solid glacier]

It does but it doesn’t completely shut off the components

So shutting down wihtout holding shift key doesn’t actually turn your components off lol, they still “stay on”Where if you hold shift and click shutdown it shuts down the components completely

Go under task manager and click your cpu and on the bottom, what does the active time say lol

[solid glacier]

^

[fading glacier]

instructions unclear 😮

oh

1:05:02

1 day 5 hours hmmmm

[solid glacier]

Yea

Bc you regular clicked shut down

[fading glacier]

well never had any problem so far

so w/e

ill keep doing the button procedure when not on use

😛

ill trust the pc will handle itself

[solid glacier]

Yea lol

[solid glacier]

So you just push the power button to shut off? And not clcik shut down or

@livid idol any advice on this^

[livid idol]

That's hybrid sleep mode. You can turn that off if you want.

That's one of the first things I do when I install Windows. Disable hibernation and it saves a bunch of space on your boot drive.

[solid glacier]

The holding shift down?

[solid glacier]

Or that^

I don’t tjink@holding shift down and hibernation sleep mode is the same thing

Here's The difference between an ordinary shutdown vs a full shutdown. An ordinary shutdown is where all the background processes of Windows and 3rd Party apps are stored from the RAM (Memory) will be put to the Hard Drive or SSD you have installed on your computer. So, Basically the RAM gives the memory to the Hard drive then the hard drive turns off. The Reason it can't be stored in the RAM is because RAM requires power to function unlike a hard drive where it can store things even when it's powered off. This is called "Fast Startup" and is enabled by default. A Full Shutdown on the other hand will not do all of this. So, after you Shift + Shutdown it will just shutdown instead of throwing all the processes to Hard Drive. This might result in faster shutdown times, but your Startup times will way slower than before. Just as u/ALurkerForcedToLogin said, You should only do this when you are taking out the power supply from your computer.
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[livid idol]

Holding shift does a full shutdown. Hybrid sleep is the new version of hibernation and it's enabled by default. You can disable it with the command powercfg.exe /hibernate off

[solid glacier]

Yea how frequently should I do a full shutdown? Or is it not necessary if I diable the hibernation

[solid glacier]

Do I run this in command promp as admin?

[solid glacier]

Or just regular

[fading glacier]

this?

[solid glacier]

Holding shift does a full shutdown. Hybrid sleep is the new version of hibernation and it's enabled by default. You can disable it with the command powercfg.exe /hibernate off

If you do this don’t have to worry

But idk if to run it as administrator

[solid glacier]

Don’t see it

[livid idol]

Yes run it as admin

[livid idol]

No it's a hidden setting. You can turn off hibernation through power settings but the command is the only way to be sure it won't turn itself back on, because that does happen.

[solid glacier]

Didn’t do anything

Hm lol now what

[livid idol]

It did. The lack of error means success.

Now you reboot and you can delete your hiberfile.sys from the C drive root

You'll see it's rather large

[solid glacier]

Oh I did it twice

Is that fine or nah

[livid idol]

That's fine as long as you didn't change "off" to "on"

[solid glacier]

Ight cool, now where do I find hiberfile.sys lol

Isn’t under my C drive

[livid idol]

You'll need to enable viewing hidden and system files

[solid glacier]

Ohh

[livid idol]

Or you could do it with the del command

[solid glacier]

What’s the Del command?

[livid idol]

From admin command prompt, del C:\Hiberfile.sys

short for "delete"

[solid glacier]

Alright so I do del C:/Hiberfile.sys

[livid idol]

The direction of the \ matters

[solid glacier]

Is there a space anywhere

[livid idol]

Between del and C

[livid idol]

"/" means an argument to the command, "" means a path

LOL discord deleted the \

That's correct though

[solid glacier]

Cool but my windows must of installed wrong

Why does it say system32

I have a 64 but windows no?

[livid idol]

That's normal

You still have to be able to run 32 bit programs after all

[solid glacier]

Ohh

Soo it didn’t find it lol

[livid idol]

Try lowercase H

h

[solid glacier]

Ope

Nope

Didn’t work

[livid idol]

dir C:\ /A

That'll show all the files, including system and hidden files, that are on the root of the drive

If there's no hiberfile.sys then microsoft finally got smart and did it automatically

[solid glacier]

Yea I don’t see it

[livid idol]

Just swap and page files, cool

[solid glacier]

Huh lol

[livid idol]

pagefile.sys and swapfile.sys

Those are normal but you can reduce their size, not relevant for this

[solid glacier]

Oh Ight how do I do that

[livid idol]

Nah don't worry about it

[solid glacier]

Oh Ight cool, so I’m good to go then?

Should I try d drive or nah

[livid idol]

Pagefile being equal to the system RAM size is normal, reducing it can cause issues with low virtual memory conditions

Nope if hiberfile isn't on C drive then it's gone

[solid glacier]

Oh alright

Good

So I guess

Back to my question lol

Should I keep holding shift down while shutting down or

[livid idol]

Now all your shutdowns will be full shutdowns

[solid glacier]

Without holding shift?

[livid idol]

Yes

Disabling hibernation removes hybrid sleep as an option

[solid glacier]

Oh alrighttt, so I should be good then

Cool

[solid glacier]

This does look right to be safe?

[livid idol]

yes

[solid glacier]

Cool cool

Thanks again!

Last question

Should I have fast start up@on

Like in bios

And isn’t there one for fast startup for the ram

[livid idol]

BIOS fast startup is fine unless you're having specific hardware issues

The one for RAM is called different things based on manufacturer but it basically skips the memory training, using the last good values

The main BIOS fast startup skips certain hardware checks, and assumes they're still good from last time they were checked.

[solid glacier]

Alright so what do@you suggest I do for the ram, bc isn’t there something like fast ram timings or is that something different than fast ram startup

[livid idol]

That would be different, that's for overclocking it sounds like

[solid glacier]

Alright

I’m 95% sure there’s a setting that says fast startup

I’ll check rn

[solid glacier]

Well I am bc I have that performance issue’s remember lol THR only thing h that fixes it is restalling windows fresh but that only lasts for a week

[livid idol]

That's a different issue, hardware POST test only checks if the hardware responds correctly and identifies itself.

[solid glacier]

Oh okay so whT should I do

[livid idol]

That's why you can be overclocking memory and it'll pass POST easily but when you try to boot windows it doesn't even try

[livid idol]

If you're referring to the performance issues I have no idea short of swapping hardware.

[solid glacier]

Ohh hm

Iv swapped eveyr hwrdeare besides my PSU a mobo and SSD/HDD

but I did tests on the memkpry

And came out to be fine

[heady turtle]

I've been ghost pinged :(

The audacity

[fading glacier]

the lion, the witch.....

[livid idol]

That one's so old

It fits though ig

[fading glacier]

ikr

[wicked hound]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-dance-summer-camp-island-ghost-gif-26464800

Haha get ghost pinged

[solid glacier]

Bro on Firefox when I go full screen on twitch it fades out to black and then back lol anyone know why

[solid glacier]

Loll

[livid idol]

That's a normal transition. Desktops don't do sliding transitions like phones do.

[solid glacier]

Firefox is the only thing that did it

Chrome didn’t

Got it

[livid idol]

Yeah. Because that's the transition effect Firefox picked.

[solid glacier]

Ohh okay

I set it to 0 0

[solid glacier]

Does me changing it to 0 effect anything or nah it Jsut gets rid of the transition

[livid idol]

Try it and see

[solid glacier]

I mean it stopped the transition, but I mean performance wise

[hallow palm]

friends display starts

flickering and whatnot

like a flickering bar across the entire screen

not sure if its gpu related but it only seems to happen when he opens certain games

[livid idol]

That's usually a bad cable or port. Probably cable.

[heady turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/po-dies-dies-of-death-teletubbies-gif-23885910

[timid hamlet]

Hi! I was wondering if anyone else has had this issue with their GPU?

I just finished assembling my new build PC yesterday. I have a flickering on the screen. Like a small white line. I noticed it when I downloaded Modern Warfare 2.

Any recommendations on a fix for this?

GPU: AMD Radeon™ RX 6950 XT

[keen nacelle]

Make sure gpu is all the way in the pcie slot, and the display cable is plugged all the way into the monitor and gpu

After that if it persists, if possible try another cable and or monitor

After that if it persists, I'd say try ddu. If it persists after that, I'd RMA the gpu

[timid hamlet]

Thank you! I’ll try that this evening.

[spice mulch]

OK i want all of your guys opinions 4070 ti or 4080?

[sacred crow]

Use case, Price, Overall Budget?

[spice mulch]

Im not too bothered about price but under 1300 would be nice, use case hard gaming and long time use 4-6 years with no problems.

[livid idol]

Only go 4080 if you have a 4k 120hz+ monitor. Otherwise you're leaving power on the table. You end up CPU limited at 1440p ultra.

(in general, exceptions exist)

[spice mulch]

4k 70hz, want to max out my games to +70 fps on max settings

[livid idol]

In what games

[livid idol]

If they're raytracing enabled games and you don't want to use DLSS then that makes some sense but otherwise you'll see well above 100 fps in almost everything

If your target is 4k70 then the 4070 ti is more than capable

[hot bough]

Just found out Cyberpuerta has a bunch of RTX 4090 at MSRP.

[livid idol]

Ooh that's cool

[hot bough]

https://www.cyberpuerta.mx/

It's making me question if I wanna do a cpu or gpu upgrade first.

[heady turtle]

imo this is only useful for relative as they sometimes do games like csgo or rainbow where it boosts fps vs others

[livid idol]

That's including ray traced results too though

So I feel it balances out

[heady turtle]

oh i thought they had a diff graph for RT

from the sounds of him speaking in the vid it doesnt say RT included and also its before RT in the video

[livid idol]

Hmm well it's been a bit since I watched it so maybe they did it that way

[hot bough]

PNY NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 24GB OC XLR8 Gaming

Any ups/downs to this 4090 aib?

compared to the 4090 aorus master.

[heady turtle]

seems it

[livid idol]

PNY is fine. All the 4090 coolers are overbuilt anyway.

[hot bough]

I see.

So it really just comes down to which one has the aesthetic I like most?

[livid idol]

Yep

[hot bough]

I see. If I can't get my hands on the 4090 aorus master at a reasonable price I'll probably get the suprim or XLR8 as my backups as they both look neat.

[spice mulch]

So you would go 4070ti and I'll hit all games +70 maxed settings even with some being rtx?

[livid idol]

Not all games but the broad majority. If you really wanted you could get the 4080 to be sure, or even the 4090 because it's not much more money for a lot more performance.

[wicked hound]

MSRP wise the 4080/4090 have same perf/$ and both have fairly bad perf/$. Generally for most people bad perf/$ can only be slightly acceptable on flagship products.

[spice mulch]

I'm starting to hit maxes on my 3060 in Deliver us Mars and Hogwarts Legacy. Do you think a 4070 would be a good option for futur3 proofing for the next 4-6 years or should I spend the ~$300 more for a 4080

[odd siren]

Future proofing is not a concept

In 2 years 5000 series may be way faster to the degree that anything before it is hopelessly uncompetitive

Personally for the right price a 4070Ti is very good, low power and strong specs

[spice mulch]

I'm not worried about Power. I just want to have the very good quality for the next 3-5/4-6 yeats

[livid idol]

Who knows what'll happen in 4 years. Maybe one of the 3 brands will have a massive breakthrough tech making everything else irrelevant.

[oak rivet]

or it could be a rocket lake type scenario we never know

[fading glacier]

the bois already said to you that future proofing is a lie

not only 50 series will be out in 2 years tops, but take into account that ngridia and amd have the game developers in their pockets to develop more demanding games to "force" ppl to upgrade if they want to stay ultra

take the 3090 as an example... its hopelessly outclassed by the 4090 (heck even by the 4080)... in just 2 years!

imagine how the 5080 or 5070ti will outclass the 4090, let alone the 4080/4070ti

TLDR, dont buy thinking on future proofing, buy with your current use case scenario in mind

a 4070ti will fill that fine on your 4k/70hz rig

[livid idol]

Tbf based on past trends the 4090 is an anomaly. Normally generational jumps aren't this large. But that also reinforces how unpredictable it all is.

[odd siren]

"Moore's Law is dead." - Nvidia's own Jensen

[fading glacier]

you are an anomaly

[livid idol]

Thank you I do try to break the mold

[spice mulch]

Ok so get the 4070ti? Don't waste m9ney on the 4080?

[fading glacier]

exactly

by the time you feel the need to upgrade your game experience probably the 5070 will be out for less than 700usd and will give you 4080 performance (just a guesstimation)

or 60 series or beyond

[odd siren]

more like a 4080 will justify upgrading more than just the GPU anyway due to bottlenecking

[wicked hound]

Not really. Lot of the time it's just dumb business decisions to push unfinished games with no time for optimization. Sure there will be supersampling/raytracing sponsors that may replace bad raster/optimization implementations (so, a case where one is "forced" to use new hardware) however whether those features are implemented or not the raster/optimization will still be trash for older hardware. For most of the bad examples that exist today, they arent implemented cuz Nvidia/AMD is paying them but rather they are implemented and "required" cuz impatient game companies want money.

[fading glacier]

true, like every developer these days are leaning more and more to supersampling technologies to push more games in less time that end as bad products that require the latests hardware to run somewhat "acceptable" anyway

also frame generation 😕

[vital oriole]

modern aaa game moment

"can't run this game well? just use dlss"

[timid hamlet]

Thanks! DDU was the solution !

[oak rivet]

Still even with super optimized games there should be upscalers

[oak rivet]

Helps when people try to do stupid res their gpu was never intended for like someone using a 3060 with a 1440p monitor

[random walrus]

Plus they use half baked rendering for a lot of lighting & effects and then force TAA to fix it >:(

[livid idol]

A 3060 can do 1440p though

Just not at high refresh on ultra settings

[vital oriole]

^

also while i hate games abusing upscaling tech to excuse out of trash optimization

i do still like to have it in any games

free perf is free perf

[oak rivet]

It barely scratches 60fps at 1080p on a 2020 game

Ofc that is at ultra settings but still

[vital oriole]

that's the point

don't run ultra and you'll be able to get by just fine with a 3060 on 1440p

[heady turtle]

Bro that's probably rt cyberpunk lol

[vital oriole]

probably

in all other games the 3060 can do that res just fine

as long as you don't use rt or ultra

[heady turtle]

Low-med on 1440p would honestly be okay on a 3060

Wouldn't recommend it but it'd be fjne

[fallow berry]

Yo, my graphics card boost to a higher fan speed than I can manually adjust tf is this?

[vital oriole]

that's fan overboost

it's normal for some cards to have this

[karmic cedar]

thank

[hasty sphinx]

You're welcome

[lone pond]

where does the A380 fall with the driver improvements? 🤔

[oak rivet]

somewhere between a 1650 and 1650super would be my estimate

[livid idol]

It is a bit closer to a 1060

The 3gb though which is like a 1650 super ti

[fading glacier]

super ti 😄

[spare relic]

A380 is somewhere between a B747 and an AN-225

[livid idol]

I hate how right you are

[oak rivet]

are those even gpus

[fading glacier]

its a comparison on the A380, is the only thing that matters

[hasty monolith]

Is resident evil 4 remake as intensive as forspoken or hogwarts legacy?

[livid idol]

https://tenor.com/view/8ball-bart-simpson-shaking-shake-magic-ball-gif-17725278

[fading glacier]

no way for us to know about an unreleased game... wait for benchmarks

[spare relic]

hogwarts legacy more like dog warts leg I see

[hasty sphinx]

was a pretty good game. enjoyed every bit of it.

[oak rivet]

Same but damn is it heavy on the cpu

It's not the typical you fire up max settings out and end up gpu bound type of game

[oak rivet]

These gpus should meet a certain expectations without rt

[solid glacier]

Okay so @livid idol performance issues are back Lmaoo. Told ya it’s idk I don’t get it. It’s only been a week of a fresh windows and the poor performance is already back

[solid glacier]

Performance issues are back already aftwr a week of a fresh windows install

[livid idol]

It has to be hardware then (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

(unless it's a program)

[solid glacier]

Not sure what hardware tbh I changed CPUs rams RMA my card

Not sure what program inonly got apex installed and drivers

Unless it’s windows not agreeing with my card

[livid idol]

You even tried upgrading from windows 10 to 11, I doubt it's windows

[solid glacier]

Idk what hardware it could be

I’m so confused unless it can be my ram but it’s only a month old but like idk

Maybe I got another bad set?

[hasty sphinx]

Did you try an Nvidia GPU?

[solid glacier]

Not yet I have it ordered

Waiting for it to ship

But I tried my brothers 1660 TO

TI

And sitll same issues

[hasty sphinx]

So you've tried all new hardware?

Except.. at this point.. a mobo/PSU?

[solid glacier]

Yep besides SSD/HDD

But I ran thsoe tests on them and they came out fine so that’s why I haven’t switched it

[hasty sphinx]

I wonder if something is wrong with your mobo

[solid glacier]

That’s what I’m wondering,

Idk how I woild@do testing on that though lol

[livid idol]

That's the problem. There's no real way to test for motherboard issues except to rule everything else out first.

[solid glacier]

So it could be my ram possibly or my PSU or mobo

I could try getting the new recent driver people been saying it’s fixed a lot of their issues

[livid idol]

Maybe the Pro driver

[solid glacier]

Pro driver?

[livid idol]

Yeah it's not gaming optimized but you can game on it

[fading glacier]

im with you in this one... if everything else fails...

[solid glacier]

The 22.2.2 driver

[livid idol]

https://www.amd.com/en/support/graphics/amd-radeon-6000-series/amd-radeon-6900-series/amd-radeon-rx-6900-xt

[foggy atlas]

Good morning, evening, or night everyone. I just had a quick question between two GPUs. I am debating on a 3090 Nvidia and 4070ti Nvidia. The 3090ti is out of budget for me. Any help would be appreciated.

In case this info is needed:

Main games I play is Overwatch 2 and League of Legends. I also stream.

For creativity/work: I use programs like Autodesk Maya, Blender, Photoshop, etc. I also am learning how to code.

I have the RAM figured out but I want to make sure I'm not limiting what I need.

[livid idol]

PRO Edition

[livid idol]

4070 ti does beat the 3090 a fair bit

[livid idol]

Yep

[solid glacier]

I mean

[foggy atlas]

Then I should be fine with a 4070ti? It's my first build so all the information gets confusing after a while of reading ^^;;

[solid glacier]

I gamed quite the hours like 2 hours on apex, could it be memory leak? And I just restart the game to fix it?

[livid idol]

Yep the 4070 ti is the winner between the two. It uses less power, gets more fps, has newer features, and stays cooler. The only down side is it's physically larger.

[fading glacier]

but

the 3090 have double vram

he use maya and blender

[foggy atlas]

Yeah that's the confusing part there.

[oak rivet]

3090ti*

[fading glacier]

out of question

[livid idol]

He said 3090 ti is too much

[fading glacier]

4070ti beats the 3090 a bit, but the 3090 have 2x the vram

but both are fairly similar

[oak rivet]

Well it does beat a 3090ti is what I meant

[livid idol]

True. How much rendering do you really do, and how large are the renders?

[fading glacier]

we know... but the 3090ti is out of this convo

[foggy atlas]

Currently I'm not rendering much for now since in still a student but that could change

[fading glacier]

i should go with the 3090

your game choices are pretty light anyway

[livid idol]

Student projects don't tend to be too massive and you won't be doing too many renders

True also, the games would be quite happy at 4k even

[solid glacier]

This

[oak rivet]

If overwatch and league is his world then yeah would go with 3090

[livid idol]

You can rule out memory leaks by running hwinfo in the background and looking at stats when you're done

[fading glacier]

tldr, both are quite similar in performance, the final word is on 12gb vs 24gb

you will not notice any differences on your games

with either of those

[livid idol]

Yeah no DLSS 3.0 or RT to worry about

[foggy atlas]

Alright thank you so much for the info and time!

[fading glacier]

but you will notice the vram difference once your projects start to grow

food for thought

[livid idol]

Used market might also be worth looking at, lots of people are dumping 3090s after upgrading

You can get one pretty cheap

[foggy atlas]

Alright ^^

[fading glacier]

haha some friends are trying to seduce me into buying sons of the forest xD

[livid idol]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/155368417047

[solid glacier]

Yea idk csnt figure it out

[hot folio]

Do it

[cerulean rover]

Resist

[hot folio]

Buy it, it’s a great game

[cerulean rover]

Don't buy it, wait for discount

[fading glacier]

yeah im thinking the same, discount... been 2 days and my friends are like headless chicken running in the forest... without clear objectives.... like the game still need a lot of polishing

[hot folio]

That’s what the original forest was also like

There aren’t any clear objectives at first

Objectives will eventually get clear by exploring the island

[hot bough]

I am pissed at Steam for taking my money when I tried to buy Sons Of The Forest and they didn't give me the game.

Been back and forth with support from both my bank and steam with no help on the issue.

Btw Steam support is complete s---.

[sage jay]

can confirm

[fading glacier]

thats why i use paypal :V

[orchid loom]

[orchid loom]

I tried it but its to hard i gave up

[solid glacier]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ReoMuCUdKE

Gonna try this video

Maybe deblosting windows will help

[solid glacier]

Im gonna try resetting my bios with my new windows debloat, how do I go about doing that? Should I do bios first or reset windows first

Yes

Bc that’s the only solution that fixes my problems for a short while

And I’m gonna flash bios bc maybe it’s something in bios that’s causing it

version 7D25v11 I need this version of bios

So I don’t got the correct version to support my cpu

The MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard supports the Intel Core i7-12700KF 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor with BIOS version 7D25v11. If the motherboard is using an older BIOS version, upgrading the BIOS will be necessary to support the CPU.”

I have no idea Whcih version I have I can’t find it under the msi bios versions

The v11 is from 2021

Alright, so shiudl I go to v11? Or the newest one out?

7D25v1A this one came out 1-11-23

Not sure if it’s stable though

Oh alright

7D25v19

Then thsi onev

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z690-A-DDR4/support

[fading glacier]

if you don't have a correct version for your cpu then you shouldn't be able to see the bios in the first place.... tldr, your version supports your cpu

[solid glacier]

Alright but I wanna reset it just to make sure it isn’t my Bios causing my issues

[fading glacier]

yeah go ahead, i was just clarifying that point

[solid glacier]

Alright so you guys think my version is good?

[ivory herald]

Optimized defaults, get newest bios, optimized defaults again. Latest bios doesn't hurt when yours is 1+ yrs old

[solid glacier]

Which version is my Bios though I don’t see it on the msi page

[fading glacier]

latest bios will add support for 13th gen, for your cpu it will not make any difference

but, you can flash it if that gives you peace of mind

[solid glacier]

Alright so for this? I just flash my BIOS? Then get new bios or what I’m confused lmao

[ivory herald]

On main screen there's a "reset" button often called optimized defaults, and I didn't realize your bios is actually v19 from Nov 22 so not very old.

[solid glacier]

Alright so just click reset button, then I Leave it at default resintall windows once that’s done, go back into Bios and optimize them

There isn’t a win11 vs win10 Biosversions is there? It’s just all same firmware

[fading glacier]

bios versions have nothing to do with the os

[solid glacier]

Ight figured as much ty

Mhz*^

[fading glacier]

not each stick, sticks are ddr: double data rate, so your rated speed x2

[solid glacier]

Yea bc of XMP 2.0? Or

[fading glacier]

each stick is 1795.6 x 2

[solid glacier]

So that means it’s not registering my Xmp isn’t on?

[fading glacier]

it is

without xmp it should be 1333 x2

[solid glacier]

Oo okay bet

[ivory herald]

Ram is 1800mhz and 3600mt/s, megatranfers/second. Ddr1 started this 20ish years ago

[solid glacier]

Chilling, I don’t see the optimize or reset

[ivory herald]

Can you show full screen, and maybe ez mode

Oh, back to advanced. Maybe slick the button save/load bios settings, or motherboard settings.

[solid glacier]

F6?

[ivory herald]

Yea bingo

[solid glacier]

Alright after I f6 I reinstall fresh windows then go back into a bios and optimize them?

[ivory herald]

Yea, and if you're gonna update bios just because, might as well before reinstalling windows.

[solid glacier]

Should I update Bios or nah idk which version I should use

[ivory herald]

I would to get it out of the way.

[solid glacier]

Which version should I do

^

I only have a 12th gen cpu btw

Only@one I see I can do is v19 Whcih came out in November the 19th

[solid glacier]

^

If I get a new bios version is there even a point of doing f6

?

[solid glacier]

^

[solid glacier]

I think I have the latest Bios version, idont see another one besides the beta one and this one

[solid glacier]

Okay so

Been waiting if I’ll just F6

Do I click the blue box or nah

[ivory herald]

I think so. Haven't tried 11 yet. Dealing w/ snow.

[solid glacier]

It was already checked

That’s why I’m asking idk if I should uncheck it or not

[solid glacier]

Okay uh

Button*

[solid glacier]

Alright just finished deblosting win11

Let’s see how long this lasts lolll

After following that video I csn update my windows now right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ReoMuCUdKE

[solid glacier]

Alright resetted windows and performance issues are gone lol let’s see how this lasts but now I got some big input delay

Not sure why I have input delay now

Maybe BIOS?

[solid glacier]

It might be my cpu

I lower the settings on my game apex and my performance e was awe full

Raised them back to max performance is great

[cyan vault]

What would be the best thermal paste to use for a GPU repaste? Don’t have any other normal paste left

Price doesn’t really matter unless it’s somehow like, 100 dollars

[fading glacier]

noctua nt-h1

[odd siren]

*h2

[spice mulch]

is 140mhz worth $50?

[oak rivet]

No

[spice mulch]

So I should get the one on the right?

[oak rivet]

Just get the cheaper one

[fading glacier]

new nvidia driver out with the new thingie for chromium

reading about it

ok... no

[random walrus]

The upscaling?

I have hardware acceleration turned off on my browser because it makes text blurry lol

[heady turtle]

Factory overclocks are never worth it, nothing you couldn't do in 10 seconds in msi afterburner

[rustic pulsar]

are cards that have a higher factory OC not binned higher?

i is it best to look at stuff like power limit and vrm if i want the best of the best

[cerulean rover]

Very few are actually binned, cards like hof are actually binned, stuff like strix aren't

[livid idol]

RIP Kingpin cards

[odd siren]

You'll get binning for the sold frequency but that's it and for Ada, means basically nothing

[vital oriole]

ocing ada gets you nowhere anyway

it's voltage limited by design

[odd siren]

Well it gets you somewhere but definitely north of 2760

[livid idol]

Nowhere that would affect any normal person

Who would notice a 5% gain? It's imperceptible. 200 fps becomes 210. Who cares?

[vital oriole]

^

[odd siren]

No but like, I'm emphasising that it's still meaningless even if you try lmao

[heady turtle]

Factory overclocks are so easy to hit there's no need

[oak rivet]

You can try putting the oc bios on

[heady turtle]

On by default

Not like there's much of a diff anyway

[livid idol]

A lot of cards the OC bios is only a fan curve change lol

If you're lucky +30 core

[keen nacelle]

Iirc my card is +100mhz on vram

[odd siren]

https://youtu.be/Z4_qgKQadwI

I don't normally watch Linus, but interested in this 'cos he's gonna try dailying XTX

[lone pond]

I wasn't aware AIBs were allowed factory OCs on memory. Interesting

[odd siren]

Whoa.
https://www.pcworld.com/article/1526632/intel-is-already-tied-with-amd-for-desktop-gpu-sales.html

Whoa.

A fair bit of that would be Arc

[oak rivet]

It turned into him complaining about windows install and barely anything about the gpu

[odd siren]

Yes

And his first test went off well

There's still more parts to go, he might run into something absolutely insufferable

Normally when they do those trial things it's a few episodes (a few weeks?)

[oak rivet]

I think the cpu in there is a 5950x?

[odd siren]

In linus' system? It's a threadripper iirc

Been a good like year or so since I intently watched his stuff so I really don't remember too well

[oak rivet]

It should be a 3960x then

[odd siren]

I really have no clue mate lol

[oak rivet]

He is playing at 4k soo mostly gpu bound for the most part

[odd siren]

But he uses a raid card and a nic card with his gpu so I think it's still threadripper

I could be wrong

[heady turtle]

HOW

[rocky mortar]

I'm looking to upgrade, but dont know what to get and not go broke

[heady turtle]

What do you have now, what's your budget and what country?

[rocky mortar]

currently have a 1660 super, budget is kinda not set, US

[heady turtle]

Can't really recommend much without at least a range of numbers "not go broke" could be 200$ or 600$ depending on who you ask

[rocky mortar]

$500 i guess

[odd siren]

What psu and cpu do you have

[fading glacier]

300w and a 4770, what do you recommend me felix?

[livid idol]

A 6750 and a PSU upgrade 🙃

[fading glacier]

[odd siren]

A 750Ti

[fading glacier]

gotta love my baby

[livid idol]

Your baby is missing a tooth (pcie pin chipped)

[fading glacier]

a veteran of hundred battles no less

now you made me boubt... going to unscrew it

[livid idol]

Nah a chipped pin is fine tbh

I was just teasing lol

[fading glacier]

figured as much xD the second to last pin was suspiciously squared even for a shorter pin

but yeah seems chipped

maybe its working at x15 or something xD

[livid idol]

Nope it's probably still x16, there's enough pin there to make contact

[fading glacier]

time to put back the monster on his house again

[ivory herald]

The short pin is more than fine, it's a very common thing.

[livid idol]

Yeah my GPU has 3 or 4 like that

It's seen some things it would rather forget

[waxen orbit]

pretty sure that's a manufacturer thing

unless ur talking about smth else and im blind

[livid idol]

That's a pretty common spot for a chipped pin is all

[waxen orbit]

i think i remember forks or someone saying that the 1 pin is smaller so ur card is grounded before 12v

and also grounded after 12v when removing card

[livid idol]

That wouldn't really make sense because that's not a power pin, it's data

[waxen orbit]

[livid idol]

According to the spec, pin 81 PRSNT2# HSIn(15)

It's a sense pin

Pin 80 next to it is ground though

[waxen orbit]

all my gpu boardviews say it's a pex pin, not sure if data or power tho

[livid idol]

Well on the reverse side it's a hot pin for data

HSin

[waxen orbit]

pcie is technically hot swappable, might just be for that

so longer pins make contact first

ancient standard they just never bothered to change

[livid idol]

Could be

Everything about PCIe is ancient standards they never changed

[waxen orbit]

yeah sounds about right

[livid idol]

That's literally the point lol

[waxen orbit]

What you’re seeing is actually not a broken connector. These pins are intentionally kept short so they connect last. Remember that PCIe is hot-plug capable, you can add (and theoretically also remove) cards in a running system. If you look inside a USB plug, you can see something similar: The data pins are shorter than the power supply pins.

https://superuser.com/questions/1030382/broken-connectors-pins-on-graphics-card#:~:text=These pins are intentionally kept short so they connect last.

found this

[livid idol]

There we go then, SU usually has accurate info

[waxen orbit]

now, hotswap ur gpu

[livid idol]

Mmmmm

I don't have a secondary so I have no way to tell if it works

[waxen orbit]

😔

[oak rivet]

6650xt goes hard lol

it seems like that driver overhead thing really coming into play here

[vital oriole]

i mean 6650xt is nearly 3060ti in perf too

but i do have to say that it beating 3070 is nice

[hot bough]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7M0psGeu1s
Gotta love seeing Minecraft destroying GPUs as usual.

[cyan vault]

This seems like way too little on a gpu, right?

[livid idol]

It's not ideal yeah

[fading glacier]

way too little

you need to go overboard on gpus, one spot without paste = dead chip

[cyan vault]

Surprised my temps weren’t worse tbh

[livid idol]

It also looks like uneven contact on top of that

[cyan vault]

Not sure how much to apply, does this seem reasonable? And also there’s a little that went off, do I need to get rid of the extra

[livid idol]

That looks about right

Don't worry about the mess

It's not conductive or anything unless you used really cheap paste

[cyan vault]

I'm using some H2 :)

I used isopropyl alcohol to clean it, should I still give it a few hours just to be sure its dry?

[livid idol]

Depends on the concentration of isopropyl. Less than 90% I'd give it 10-15 minutes. Less than 75% maybe 20-25.

[cyan vault]

Seemed to have worked well. Small bump in performance and similar temps but almost no fan noise

[fading glacier]

glad to hear it pal

a repaste always do wonders

[solid glacier]

So my ram is fine and stable on XMP lol

So it isn’t my ram, that’s causing the issue, or my gpu or my hdd/SSD (I did a memory test on the nvme snd hdd and there running fine) I RMAEd my gpu, so I gatta left is my mobo to test PSU and cpu? How would I test my cpu

[hasty sphinx]

Stress test with Prime95

Can also check out Cinebench, but thats more of a benchmark.

[solid glacier]

Prime95 for my cpu or and how long should I run it for

What about OOCT

CPU with corecycler and OCCT's CPU and Linpack tests

[hasty sphinx]

I think you'll want to run Small FFTs for at least an hour.

I was about to ping you falcie ❤️

[livid idol]

All of the above, when testing CPU and RAM it's best to go for a shotgun approach and varied workloads

[solid glacier]

Small FFTS? So run OOCT on my cpu for a hour that’s it?

Also I tested my ram for 2 hours and no errors came

[hasty sphinx]

What test did you use?

nvm it's in the screenshot

Did you try the Anta Extreme test?

[ivory herald]

They did pcbdestroyer. Indeed should do extreme also, but dang how much time do ya need just for xmp stuff.

[solid glacier]

I’m just seeing if my ram isn’t bad/unstable or not

[solid glacier]

No I did the PCB destroyer

[livid idol]

If you're not having any specific problems then you can call it good here

[hasty sphinx]

Yeah

[solid glacier]

I’m having those peroformanfe issues I’m just testing everything to see what is causing it atm, I RMAed my gpu etc

[livid idol]

Then you'd want to do the full suite of tests and watch the graphs in OCCT for anything that's off

[solid glacier]

How long does that last lol

If it’s awhile@I’ll leave it on overnight

[livid idol]

Well you'll want to run P95 for about 30 minutes at least, OCCT tests are an hour each in the free version, cinebench takes a couple minutes but you can loop it for as long as you want.
Corecycler you can run overnight

[solid glacier]

Which is the better one to do? Atm

I’ll do the corecycler tonight

By overnight I slepe at 2-3am get up at 12 in the afternoon is that good or tonlong lol should I set a timer

[solid glacier]

Also what am I looking for@in the graphs Iv never used OOCT

[livid idol]

The top one

[livid idol]

The same kind of dips you've seen before, in clock speeds or usage %

[livid idol]

That's fine

[solid glacier]

What should I run rn? For about a hour

Also last time I stressed tested my CPU it was getitng to hot on OOCT

[livid idol]

OCCT Linpack

It's a lighter, variable load

It's closer to what you'd see when gaming where it's not a constant full throttle thing

[solid glacier]

What’s the link for it is it pinned

[livid idol]

It's one of the OCCT CPU test options

[solid glacier]

Alright so run OCCT linpack for a hour first?

or this