graphics-cards

[oak rivet]

soo if you match 16 as a number 4080 is the only one lol

[fading glacier]

4080 is the minimum

not the only one

just because the vram

[orchid loom]

They should match number

[oak rivet]

what other 16gb nvidia card is there?

[fading glacier]

none

[oak rivet]

soo the 4080 is kinda the only one then

[fading glacier]

yup

minimum 4080 for the 16gb vram

you can go 4090 or 3090 if you want, cause those are 24vram

thats why 6800xt is the minimum

16gb vram as well

[hasty monolith]

Then why does min spec needs 16 gig ram.

[fading glacier]

no one knows

[oak rivet]

there is also the 6800 non xt and a770 le with 16gb

but 4k would be too much for those cards

[hasty monolith]

I thought 16 gig ram is good for several years

[fading glacier]

a 3080 with 12vram is not enough for 4k 60 fps on forspoken... or so they say

which is laughable

[orchid loom]

More POWER

[fading glacier]

the game looks cool... but not that cool

[fading glacier]

it is, that why everyone is laughing at the requirements

[hasty monolith]

Agreed. Something like starfield or stalker 2 i would understand

[orchid loom]

It's not you need 32GB buy buy buy

[fading glacier]

shut up kenzie

[orchid loom]

https://tenor.com/view/buy-naru-yummi-universe-yummi-universe-gif-23251381

[fading glacier]

forspoken requirments are nuts, the videos shows an ok game... not a next level game

not even cp77 ask for those requirements

[orchid loom]

Star citizen also needs 32GB ram

[fading glacier]

star citizen ask for 64gb or more

thats a one of a kind game

[orchid loom]

No they said 32

[fading glacier]

try 32 on that thing

[orchid loom]

I did

Max usage was 26GB

[oak rivet]

cyberpunk for reference

[fading glacier]

once i saw a video of someone using minecraft with an insane amouint of mods.... he reached 54gb of ram usage

was nuts

[orchid loom]

[oak rivet]

and from the footage what we have seen cp2077 looks better for sure

[fading glacier]

im ashamed to say this... but i agree with safi on that

😛

[orchid loom]

You have cyberpunk pfp I don't trust you

[fading glacier]

but... we will see how forspoken behave when it releases

[orchid loom]

We need an unbias opinion

[fading glacier]

so far we only had the 1 hour demo

[oak rivet]

https://youtu.be/Po3eUyZVsqE

he compared it to cp2077

[orchid loom]

Internet is fake

Doesn't exist

[oak rivet]

[fading glacier]

you will be below recommended dont you safie?

yikes

3070 at 1440p 30fps ewww

need frame gen on that

[oak rivet]

1080p

but i dont see any dlss anywhere lol

[heady turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-holland-spiderman-spiderman-thanos-snap-swtsoob-gif-22157816

Me after reading this

[wicked hound]

Me after

[keen nacelle]

Real

[fading glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/no-u-reverse-gif-22928333

[livid idol]

Important new info! https://youtu.be/8Ejlt-7-h9o

TL:DW it's not the driver

Most of the cards were the same model and purchased around the same time, late November early December, and it seems to be isolated.
The theory is they're all either from a miner or a scalper that didn't store them properly, too hot, too humid, etc.

[hasty monolith]

Thats good to know. Driver isnt an issue

[orchid loom]

[orchid loom]

I'm still trying to figure out how a damn driver made my game FREAKING BLUE

[livid idol]

Oh that's easy, it's your curse

[orchid loom]

NOO

I swear to god

Like

I download the optional bc tomie wanted to play warzone and after downloading them warzone worked but I went to play elite dangerous and it was BLUE so I reverted back to recommended and it was not blue anymore and yes I did restart the game @livid idol

Also I was getting driver time out issues but not that big of a deal since recommend works

I mean yes some stuff is my fault but this was completely out of my control

[livid idol]

I know it's out of your control, that's why it's a curse

[wicked hound]

I mean I never really believed it could be the driver. Who in their right mind would put OTP/VL/PL in a driver and not a vBIOS?

[orchid loom]

Someone who messed up

[waxen dock]

So I recently smacked my desk, and pc turned off. Turned out it's some gpu issue, as pc boots only when laying down. Also seems like under load it crashes as well. Patient is 1080ti gaming x

Is it memory that is broken, or the gpu core?

[livid idol]

Sounds more like the slot tbh

[waxen dock]

Tried putting my guy into other slot, same issue

I can browse internet, play light games like osu, but when I tried furmark it crashed after 30 seconds or so

Got up to 68 celsius

[livid idol]

There's more than just the slot involved with the slot, there's the part of the gpu that gets inserted into the slot too. If that's bent you'll get weird stuff happening.

[waxen dock]

So what should I try?

Some alt medicine lmao

It doesn't bluesxreen tho, the pc just crashes and stays on one frame

[livid idol]

If it's working horizontal maybe a gpu support bracket could help keep it from sagging and flexing

Or just a lego tower

[waxen dock]

Here's the issue, I tried launching it with gpu supported by my hand, doesn't pass POST

[livid idol]

Definitely hardware then, time to try another gpu

[waxen dock]

Welp, 1080ti was a great comrade for those 2.5 years, time for a change

[livid idol]

You could take pics of the slot area of the gpu and put them up here and we can see if anything obvious is wrong there

[waxen dock]

Once ill get back home I could do that, thanks for help tho

Idk if pics load

But this is how it looks

I will try to play couple of games in world of tanks, will update if it crashes. After a battle it seems like gpu goes fine... When pc lays down lol, also wot doesn't fully load my gpu, so if I can play safely on 60% load, I should be fine until I get some cash for new gpu

[waxen dock]

ehh, let me try again

[orchid loom]

tbh ive been seeing this on couple servers now i think discord is dying

[waxen dock]

it was always like this

[orchid loom]

they work if you open in browser

[waxen dock]

too high res

[orchid loom]

bruh

[waxen dock]

it could be, they doubled nitro price in my country

[orchid loom]

you pic is breaking my pc

@waxen dock i got you

[waxen dock]

ty lad

[odd siren]

Oh they loaded

[waxen dock]

as i said

[odd siren]

Weirdge

[orchid loom]

oh no

[waxen dock]

everything works fine until PC is sitting vertical

and gpu aint loaded fully

like, now i play WOT, GPU is under 65ish% load

and it works just fine

but furmark kills it

has to be some hardware issue

im not raging anymore

i got teached a lesson

[livid idol]

I meant with the card out of the slot for the pics lol

[waxen dock]

ahh

i was looking there tho

both card and the MB have no visible damage

i even mounted off the backplate

no shatters no nothing

[odd siren]

I'd need to get caught up but maybe the gpu needs a repaste because of temps and hotspot

[waxen dock]

well, it all happened so suddenly

i just raged and it broke

[odd siren]

[waxen dock]

gpu was doing perfectly fine

until i got too mad

i could've bought it like that

i mean, i might ve got kinda scammed

i aint geeky that much

maybe the guy knew

i mean, it was happening before

if i smacked my desk too hard it just bluescreened

[odd siren]

Which gpu is this?

[livid idol]

1080 ti

[waxen dock]

yep, 1080ti gaming x

i mean, i had that bluescreen-rage issue ever since i bought it

but as i was assembling the pc myself

[odd siren]

Oh that should run furmark

[waxen dock]

i just brushed it off

as it cou;d've been my bad

[odd siren]

I say repaste

If repaste doesn't work maybe the pcie slot is damaged

[waxen dock]

it crashed after 30 seconds of furmark

after hitting 68 celsius

[odd siren]

Yeah that could be temps

Ok so

Core 68 yes?

[waxen dock]

def not mobo

[waxen dock]

yes

i had the bluescreen issue

[odd siren]

Hotspot can be different

[waxen dock]

back when i had old mobo aswell

i switched mb a year ago

[odd siren]

If part of the die is too hot but the average is 68

Then it can shut down

Or in this case blue screen as it's not able to run at that temp and speed

I say you need to repaste that bad boi

[waxen dock]

it used to go past 68

it was doing fine past 70s

[odd siren]

Yeah that's very telling

I'm like, 95% sure it's just in need of a repaste

Do you have a tube of paste around?

Ever disassembled a gpu before?

[waxen dock]

nah

but here i ask

could it happen that out of the blue?

[odd siren]

Yes

[waxen dock]

yk, specifically on the smack

[odd siren]

Yes

If the vibration was enough you can break the paste

[livid idol]

If the paste was dry it could have cracked when you hit it

[waxen dock]

oooooooooh

well, gpu wasnt repasted since it got out of the factory

[odd siren]

Another tick for repaste

[waxen dock]

i bought it in 2020, it was 2 years old at that time

now its almost 5

could be the issue

yea guys

so, you might have just saved me half a grand

[odd siren]

You'll need to look up a disassembly of this gpu but some paste, paper towels, maybe an alcohol wipe? A phillips head screwdriver and maybe a second phillips head or even a torx screwdriver will be needed

It's a 30 minute job

[livid idol]

Nah not that much, a used 3060 performs the same as a 1080 ti for like $300

[waxen dock]

gotta include polish tax

3060 is 2k in poland

thats 500 bucks

[livid idol]

Ah right

[waxen dock]

i think i have some IPA for cpu repaste

i do have aeronaut aswell

[odd siren]

I recommend NT-H2, not cheap but very nice. If not that, MX-4 arctic or MX-6

Ah well, I was long into typing that

[waxen dock]

do i need some thermalpads?

might replace them aswell

[odd siren]

Possibly yes

[waxen dock]

well i have some faith again

[odd siren]

You can get K5 pro and use that instead if you can't get the thermal pad sizes

Also get squishy ones

Allows for better margin of error if they're slightly too thick

[waxen dock]

i got some geeky friends, they might aswell help me

guys, thank you

i aint depressed no more

[odd siren]

2 heads are better than 1

Kek

[waxen dock]

but wait

one more thing

[odd siren]

Sure

[waxen dock]

the pc doesnt POST when vertical

its caused by the paste aswell?

[odd siren]

No idea tbh

[waxen dock]

i just find it strange

[odd siren]

You have an air cooler?

[waxen dock]

yk, it cant be too hot when POSTing

[waxen dock]

which one do you mean?

[odd siren]

Cpu

[waxen dock]

yea

i do

[odd siren]

Do you have a debug code?

[waxen dock]

no, i have diodes

[odd siren]

What's the diodes say

[waxen dock]

stays on CPU

[odd siren]

Then def not related

[waxen dock]

but once gpu is out, it boots

[odd siren]

Eh??

[waxen dock]

fr

[odd siren]

How many times have you tried this?

[waxen dock]

bro i have no idea aswell

[waxen dock]

one or two

[wicked hound]

What is the mobo orientation when it does and doesnt POST?

[waxen dock]

it does post when laying down

doesnt when it stands

like, yk, case it as indended

[odd siren]

Ohhhh

[waxen dock]

aint booting hwen like this

[odd siren]

So what you punched the 1080 ti?

Ye?

[waxen dock]

works when like this

LMAO

[odd siren]

LOL

I can see the editing

[wicked hound]

Great editing skills.
Anyways sounds like smth happening to PCIe

[waxen dock]

yes, my english is fluent

[wicked hound]

How well secured is GPU in case?

[waxen dock]

nah, smacked the shit out of my desk

[waxen dock]

well, mounted on two screws

[odd siren]

Ah

[waxen dock]

i dont really have any bracket

[odd siren]

Well that wouldn't kill the pcie slot

Weirdge

[waxen dock]

indeed

[odd siren]

New mobo yes?

[waxen dock]

yes, mobo is like a year old, rog strix b450f gaming ii

[odd siren]

Ima take a shot in the dark here

[waxen dock]

go on

[odd siren]

No you know what I got halfway through it and thought I'm stupid

I got no idea on that one

[waxen dock]

neither do i

bro, i can solve some basic issues myself

but that one is like a ancient mystery

so, could it be the thermal paste?

[odd siren]

The furmark thing yes

I'm pretty sure

But the post thing? Confused as hell

[wicked hound]

What happens when PC like this?

[odd siren]

[wicked hound]

While I joke about editing, I am serious about the question

[waxen dock]

broooo 💀

[waxen dock]

no idea havent tried that lmao

bro like this shi is unsolvable

[wicked hound]

I'd try a few diff orientations.
Okay chance it stems from GPU being too loose in case or mobo PCIe being damaged.
Cant imagine it'd be GPU itself (only other variable), even smth like a loose cooler would POST.

[waxen dock]

i could try putting it into some friend's pc

[odd siren]

Try pcie slot 2

[wicked hound]

Friend have a GPU you can test in your PC as well?

[waxen dock]

but how do you explain both slots not working

[waxen dock]

uh huh

[odd siren]

Ah see

That's where it's def gpu

[waxen dock]

i mean, i tried sticking it into lower slot

[odd siren]

But also wth is it

[waxen dock]

same issue

[odd siren]

[waxen dock]

fr i have no idea

[odd siren]

Try repaste first

If standard orientation still doesn't work

...

Buy a vertical mount

[waxen dock]

dont be trollin me here

i mean, i could aswell use my pc like this

idk, buy a vertical case

[wicked hound]

Literally only mental gymnastics I can do for it to be a GPU issue is slightly loose GPU core. When GPU is upright the cooler has less pressure on core causing it to lose contact with PCB.
That is one real far fetched thing Ive thought about.

[waxen dock]

this is my call aswell, gpu core being loose

my friend said the same thing

if repaste wont work, could try resoldering it

[odd siren]

Oh boi, you'd have my respect if you could pull that off

[waxen dock]

there is a known polish youtuber who does such stuff

he accepts cards from viewers

[wicked hound]

Reflowing solder wont help much. Would need to reball to have any long lasting effects. You wont be reballing with cheap equipment

[odd siren]

Yeah it's reballing

[waxen dock]

i mean thats what i meant

reballing it

[odd siren]

But fr a vert mount sounds like it'd work

[waxen dock]

but is it worth the effort?

[wicked hound]

Depends on what that polish YTer asks to reball

[waxen dock]

afaik he used to reball 900's 10's, 20's and 30's

he could aswell change capacitors

basically a magician

https://www.youtube.com/@ForestGPU shoutout

anyway, by now it seems to work when

so i will keep things like that

i dont really do stuff that gpu consuming

you helped alot guys

plus you got me laugh hard

[wicked hound]

I'd be careful around that GPU tho. If it's sensitive to orientation I dont think I'd even want to touch it any more then strictly necessary.

[waxen dock]

yes

yes

and no more desk smacking

i really need a pc for studying

im in finals class

i use PC mostly for studying

[odd siren]

[waxen dock]

bro

that could be a great meme

it hit good

i died myself kinda

[hushed saffron]

Hi whats the best gpu i can get for 60$ CAD (asking cuz im looking to buy 20-30 of them cuz I flip pcs)

[modest oyster]

I'm not sure what you could get for 60, that's too low for something that people would want. Maybe you could get an r9 370?

[fading glacier]

used 710gt

[modest oyster]

I was wondering if someone could help me with my AMD card, is there a type of ray tracing on the Rx 6700 xt?

[fading glacier]

it is, very bad, but it is

rt on anything below 3080 is bad... more so on amd side

amd is a gen behind on ray tracing

[modest oyster]

Oh, is it in development or something, I'm sure it's bad because of what AMD pushes for witch is efficiency.

[fading glacier]

rt in general is very much in its infant stages, both amd and nvidia

[modest oyster]

I'd say Nvidia has the lead

Didn't Nvidia invent ray tracing?

[fading glacier]

more like the first to adopt the tech for the consumer market

invent, no

rt was way before nvidia on the cinema industry as an example

[modest oyster]

I've used one Nvidia card, it was the gt730, I sold my rx590 and I put the gt card in and it fried my pc. So yeah, that happened.

The heat sink wasn't properly on, but my uncle had a extra PC lying around so he gave that to me.

[fading glacier]

good for you

the good ol' fermi days

[orchid loom]

Id buy it bc RGB

[burnt parcel]

Looking for advise. I have a Zotac 3080 Amp Holo that has started hard crashing and nothing has fixed it. Should I buy a cheap 3000 series and wait for 5000 series or should i just go ahead and get a 4000 series card. For either option, which card should i get?

[primal moon]

whats the best gpu for streaming under 400$ im looking to upgrade because my gpu is way outdated and needs an upgrade but i also need it to handle streaming

would prefer nvidia

[burnt parcel]

what do you currently have

[primal moon]

amd readeon 580

[burnt parcel]

i would say just a 3060 non ti version because thats right under your price but you should wait for more input

[primal moon]

wdym wait for more input

[burnt parcel]

like see what other people think

like Fal'Cie

[livid idol]

Wouldn't a 3080 still be in warranty? Unless you bought it the day it released or something

[burnt parcel]

had a 2 year warranty

ended in december 😦

really bad timing

or the perfect timing for them

[livid idol]

Dang no kidding

[burnt parcel]

seems too convenient

[primal moon]

oh ok yeah its gonna be a little bit but i wanna start researching now i dont really know the most about pcs and would prefer not to have to upgrade for a while

[burnt parcel]

@livid idol what do you think?

i was saying a 3060 non ti since thats right below his price range

[livid idol]

You should be able to get a used higher tier gpu

[primal moon]

anywhere you suggest dont wanna risk getting ripped off. or having a part give out due to bad condition

[livid idol]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/125686256721

6750 xt is very close to a 3070, and AMD has improved their encoder a lot so it's more suitable for streaming

[burnt parcel]

what should i do since im out of warranty?

get a cheap card or go big?

[livid idol]

Then again you can get a 3070 for less than that, hang on

https://www.ebay.com/itm/144909576833

[burnt parcel]

damn

@primal moon you might wanna get on that

3070 for 360?

wild

[primal moon]

damn yeah wtf

[livid idol]

Almost 13k sales too and they sell a lot of GPUs

[burnt parcel]

what do you think i should do @livid idol in my predicament?

go 4000 or get a used 3000

[livid idol]

If you can afford it by all means go 4070 ti, it's about equal to the 3090 ti

There's also used 3090s for $700 right now

[primal moon]

@livid idol @burnt parcel thank you guys for the input you definitely saved me a bunch of stress and money to value ratio

[random walrus]

does 30 series have AV1 encoding or is that only 40 series & amd 7000?

[burnt parcel]

do you think you could find the cheapest 4070ti thats not a crappy brand?

[livid idol]

Don't forget Intel

[random walrus]

cause if Supreme doesn't mind, waiting to get a gpu with AV1 might be nice

[livid idol]

https://shop.asus.com/us/90yv0ij1-m0aa00-tuf-rtx4070ti-12g-gaming.html

$800 is msrp

[burnt parcel]

thats kinda crazy

how is this in stock

[livid idol]

Yep scalpers finally gave up now, we can buy them again

[burnt parcel]

thats nuts

[livid idol]

It's pretty hilarious, scalpers bought all the 4080s and couldn't sell them marked up like they wanted so they tried to return them. They won't even touch the 4070 ti now, just the 4090 and 7900 XTX.

[burnt parcel]

thats wild

[random walrus]

could you put an intel av1 card in and use it for encoding your stream but game on a different gpu?

or at that point do you just get a capture card?

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-arc-a380-a380-cli-6g/p/N82E16814930076

[livid idol]

Yeah that's a good use of the A380

[random walrus]

AV1 is cool

I dunno if Twitch supports it yet though

[livid idol]

There's some confusion there because we're not sure if when people do start streaming with AV1 does all the audience have to be able to decode AV1?

Like we all know H265 works with everything so it's never been a concern before but now...

[random walrus]

oh right

flip those games in the arc a380 bundle and it's probably around $100

[livid idol]

Nope but nice try lol

[random walrus]

oop

[livid idol]

Oh wait wrong one

[random walrus]

wait no

yeah its a different game

Download 2 Games: Ghostbusters: Spirits Unleashed & Gotham Knights

plus the software

so maybe more like 110 idk depends if you haggle the prices

[odd siren]

110 for an av1 encoder sounds nice

[random walrus]

6gb vram too

dunno if more vram really matters but its nice they didn't just give it 2gb cause its cheap

[livid idol]

Once plex figures out AV1 I'll jump on an Intel card for my server, battlemage might be out by then

[burnt parcel]

@livid idol how much you think i could sell my 3080 for on ebay? since it works for the most part

[livid idol]

Maybe $400 max but more likely $300-350

Maybe put it in as a $400 buy it now and take offers

[odd siren]

First word on 4090 ventus, not running hot.
Specifics not known yet but 57C core in gaming is good

[heady turtle]

Damm that's pretty good sounding even if it is full blast fans

[heady turtle]

https://www.tweaktown.com/newsletter/click/news_90099_2482_89b7fc152b633c327b81cbd64001e3a6

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

@outer canopy if you wanna post your own stuff you can only do it in #links-and-selfpromotion

[ivory herald]

Nice tgp, but indeed 1 big interesting stat will be this:

[orchid loom]

Just buy a 4090 I say they just make all cards have the same bus bit rate

Or would that break it

[livid idol]

That would require them to all have the same memory capacity

[orchid loom]

Oh man

[wicked hound]

Damn that's amazing. Imagine getting 3070 perf for less then $500 USD (reburbished but shhhh, sales exist).

[ivory herald]

12GB 3060 wasn't same bit rate as 6GB model?

[livid idol]

No the 6gb was a significant downgrade, like the 1060 3gb vs 6gb

[heady turtle]

3070 ti had g6x over g6 hardly made a diff so

[ivory herald]

Bruh you did it again. The comparison was 4060 ti to 3070. point was I wonder if that 288 will hold it back much.

[heady turtle]

Literally 410$ 6750xt's new be like

[heady turtle]

If they used 1gb chips it would have been but they used 3x2gb instead of 3x1gb

[wicked hound]

3070 has 448GB/s bandwidth, quite a bit more then 4060Ti 288GB/s. More cache will help, but not as simple as looking at 70 vs 70Ti mem bandwidth for expected perf differences.

[heady turtle]

I'm saying 3070 ti to 3070, ti had larger bandwidth than 3070 but it hardly made a diff like

[heady turtle]

Oh that's a significant downgrade i didn't realise bandwidth was that high

[ivory herald]

What Hay said.

[wicked hound]

My datasheet that I havent updated in forever for most GPU specs

[heady turtle]

I didn't know the bandwidth numbers, just assumed it was higher bandwidth or at least the same

[orchid loom]

https://www.wepc.com/news/what-is-and-how-to-enable-dldsr/ @livid idol do i need this on?

[livid idol]

No you don't need it on

Especially if you're already going to be doing 4k

[orchid loom]

okay

[wicked hound]

Assuming it does actually perf like a 3070 and my perf percentage number for 4070Ti is correct (never rechecked it after first party reviews. Tho I collected enough data to still be moderately confident about it) the 4060Ti is truly amazing.

[oak rivet]

I actually needed this lol

Some games soo much gpu left in the tank

[orchid loom]

🤔

[oak rivet]

Imma be optimistic and hope it end up performing like a 3080 10gb

Like a 3060ti was a huge jump over a 2060super

[orchid loom]

[livid idol]

Not with that memory bandwidth it's not

[oak rivet]

Thought 4070ti showed that's only part of the story

[odd siren]

You could just be optimistic and get a 3080 10gb used for sub 500 too lol

[livid idol]

Do you mean 3070 ti?

Because you can artificially limit a 3080s bandwidth to match GDDR6 instead of 6X and see just how bad it does

[oak rivet]

On paper specs on the 4070ti are pretty cut down aswell but ends up outperforming a 3090ti

[orchid loom]

@livid idol just wondering does this mean im bottlenecking

[livid idol]

Technically yes

In that specific game you appear CPU limited

[orchid loom]

im playing cold war with RT on

[livid idol]

At 1440p right

[orchid loom]

yea

[livid idol]

That's why

4080/4090 are basically 4k only GPUs

[orchid loom]

yea thats what i thought

[heady turtle]

Sure but if it comes out at literally 3070 price it's actually a discrasement

[odd siren]

discrasement, disgracement?
disagreement?

[heady turtle]

The 2nd one

English is dumb

[odd siren]

2nd one isn't a word?

[wicked hound]

All of them

[oak rivet]

cold war has rt?

[orchid loom]

yes

[oak rivet]

rt shadows or what?

you see any difference?

[orchid loom]

ig

[orchid loom]

idk

[oak rivet]

you try some cyberpunk rt yet

this was with rt on or off

[livid idol]

Just "disgrace" works

Yes English sucks

Level 4/5 on the difficulty scale

[fading glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[severe heath]

hey, would I have problems if I install a NVidia gpu with an amd gpu?

[livid idol]

Not really, you just have to make sure whatever you're doing is using the right one. Only one will work at a time, but you can have each do different tasks like one for gaming and one for streaming.

[severe heath]

ah okay. but would bottlenecking be an issue though if the gpus are different?

[livid idol]

Probably not. The PCIe lanes to each would probably be reduced to x8 + x8 or x4 depending on your motherboard but only high end GPUs care about that.

[severe heath]

Hm okay. I hope it works when I do.

Thank you.

[heady turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-comics-table-flip-gif-25874129

[odd siren]

[oak rivet]

would you guys say thats a rock solid frametime graph

[livid idol]

60 fps locked moment

[vital oriole]

solid as a wall

[orchid loom]

Oh i want one

[orchid loom]

what game

[oak rivet]

Ac valhalla

[orchid loom]

now if you run 4k on a 27inch does it have the same ammount of pixels as 32inch would and ill get the same FPS

[oak rivet]

Dlss auto

Dlss auto most of the time uses like performance

[orchid loom]

i just did the raytracing ultra thing

i left this running for 24 hours lol

@oak rivet I'll run DLSS quality and ultra RT

[oak rivet]

👍

Yeah native 4k ultra rt will not be fun

[orchid loom]

Lol

this is 1440p rn

[odd siren]

the moddiy right angle 12vhpwr looks good

I'd probably trust that over the cablemod one

[orchid loom]

thats sus

[fading glacier]

but you will need the cablemod cable anyway

why not getting both from the same manufacturer?

[wicked hound]

Lol why did modDIY not push the cable splitting further back? An extra 10cm or smth would do wonders for aesthetics.

[odd siren]

I mean Corsair could've sleeved theirs

[fading glacier]

maybe because they also sell the cable extension

[odd siren]

moddiy also has a 12vhpwr with very flexible wires

[wicked hound]

Wont change the fact that the ugly 8P conversion is happening in plain sight

[fading glacier]

indood

however, its a 90 degree adapter only

[orchid loom]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-|-Parts/PC-Components/Power-Supplies/600W-PCIe-5-0-12VHPWR-Type-4-PSU-Power-Cable/p/CP-8920284 what about this this would look nice

[fading glacier]

the conversion is probably solve with the extension cable of theirs

oh no, im all wrong

its a full piece

yeah, horrible to see... 10 extra cms coulda solved the ugly aesthetics as hay pointed already

and no, is not tuesday

[orchid loom]

i might buy mods 90 degree adapter plus 1x16 corsair pin

[odd siren]

I would still place my bets on this over the cablemod right angle

The cultists have very little faith in that cablemod one

[orchid loom]

🤔

https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/cases/accessories/vertical-gpu-holder-kit-v3/#overview would this work in the O11 evo

[sacred crow]

If I was to get a 4080 is the FE cooler fine or would an AIB model be worth the extra?

[oak rivet]

FE would be fine

[heady turtle]

FE is decent, wether you should get AIB or not depends on pricing basically

[sacred crow]

Yeah, I have heard the 4080s essentially have the 4090 coolers. So I am still thinking if a msi ventus or gigabyte gaming oc would be worth the extra 50-70 USD over the FE model.

[heady turtle]

Deff not for those prices, id you're in the US apart from FE I'd consider these
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yRLFf7/asus-tuf-gaming-geforce-rtx-4080-16-gb-video-card-tuf-rtx4080-16g-gaming
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RnZ9TW/pny-xlr8-gaming-verto-epic-x-rgb-geforce-rtx-4080-16-gb-video-card-vcg408016tfxxpb1

I'd get the tuf tho

At MSRP tuf would be my choice

[odd siren]

And make sure you plug in the cable all the way in.
Triple check it's all the way plugged in, quadruple check it.
It's less likely with a 4080 but you don't want to melt it. The connector is a very poor design so you must be careful with it

[mighty pond]

Hi - I'm comparing GeForce RTX 4090 card and see different specs listed and different prices

Does anyone know these differences?

https://www.newegg.com/pny-geforce-rtx-4090-vcg409024tfxpb1/p/N82E16814133849?Item=9SIAFVFJHT4726

https://www.newegg.com/zotac-geforce-rtx-4090-zt-d40900j-10p/p/N82E16814500540?Item=9SIADFRJHV4366

[odd siren]

Just get the cheapest one tbh

They're all decent just make sure it fits the case and you have an adequate psu

[mighty pond]

I thought so but one has a different description and wanted to make sure it's not better:

PCI Express 4.0 x16 ATX Video Card

[odd siren]

They're both 4.0

[mighty pond]

the rest just say 4.0

[sacred crow]

Thanks for the suggestions and advice. I will probaly just get the 4080 fe over the tuf since in the case something is initially wrong then it would be more convenient to return to a best buy than do an RMA to asus.

[mighty pond]

thx - and I'm not gaming, I create 3D computer animation, so I figure just get the biggest/fastest

[odd siren]

All 4.0 x16

[mighty pond]

cool

what do you mean by adequate psu

I currently have GTX 1080 Ti

[ivory herald]

Mentioning psu would've been good. 750w A tier should be solid, probably even a B tier. 40 series has better/less transients than 30 series.

[mighty pond]

ah power

is IceStorm 3.0 Advanced Cooling a thing

https://www.newegg.com/zotac-geforce-rtx-4090-zt-d40900j-10p/p/N82E16814500540?Item=9SIADFRJHV4366

[ivory herald]

No, marketing. Normal 4090 was/is 1600 btw.

[mighty pond]

THX!!

[sacred crow]

Has anyone bought a GPU from Asus directly and would there be anything to worry about?

[finite fulcrum]

hello guys,can u give me advise pls,is this good build for games and streams,and streaming games,or do i lack smth and i need to change smth like CPU or smth https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZR9kjZ

[spare relic]

Looks good

I feel like you might be able to get an equivalent or better PSU for the same price or cheaper

[spare relic]

I was about to say 550 but Rommy got that covered 😎👍

[finite fulcrum]

6650 xt is better,then why it cost cheaper ?

around 1000$

but i will buy not now probably little bit later so maybe price will change too,but i just asking to understand at least approximately what to buy

okay thanks

does this build will be good for streaming and playing new games?

i guess i will stick to 6650,but thanks,will see later

i read a little bit and some people saying that this card is kinda noisy,what do you think

from which factors it can depend and can i change it somehow in future,or like it i what it is

[random walrus]

Mech (unless it's significantly different than the Ventus) can be noisy but on a card like the 6650 with a lower power draw I doubt it's bad

[heady turtle]

Mech and ventus are basically the same card just one is amd one is nv

[sacred crow]

I have heard that the 4080 tuf has significant coil whine. Is this just because this model is prone to coil whine or is it a general 4080 behavior or is coil whine mostly luck of the draw?

[heady turtle]

Bit of both

Coil whine can usually be decreased heavily by undervolting

Also if you can get it for 1200, 4080 tuf is a very nice cooler

[odd siren]

The cooler is very good and quiet, so therefore the sound is more prevalent

All cards have a degree of coil whine, whether we hear it or not, or whether the fans prevail over it is the million dollar question in every sample

[lone pond]

this generation of GPUs are so bad

[sacred crow]

Yeah, 4080 tuf looks better and is probaly a bit cooler than the FE, but just worried about ordering directly from Asus in the case of the need to return it.

[lone pond]

nvidia cables are a minefield, amd reference model defects, the prices of everything...so much pain..

right after a generation plagued by scalping, and shortages...PC enjoyers cant get a break

[orchid loom]

Nah we must suffer or go outside

[heady turtle]

Why? If you need to return it you'll just be able to mail it back?

[heady turtle]

There was a very small number of cables, not enough water in the vapour chamber for 7900xtx ref models tho is sad

[sacred crow]

I only worry if asus would not accept the return in the case of just excessive coil whine.

[heady turtle]

If you don't like the sound i doubt anywhere would take it back

Just up the fans to drown it out or undervolt it

[orchid loom]

Coil whine is music to the ears

[solid glacier]

So get this

I RMA my card they said they haven’t found anything wrong with the card

But Ik there is bc I done a lot of testing with it lol

Now what?

[random walrus]

Do you have proof?

Screenshots/videos/support chats would probably all work

[solid glacier]

Yea I sent them that

[spare relic]

My Quadro P60 or whatever it's called hisses like it's a snake

[orchid loom]

Lol

[hasty monolith]

Anyone with a 4080 and playing forspoken does the game only does 4k60 with a 4080

[fading glacier]

forspoken still not released

ask tomorrow

[hasty monolith]

K

[fading glacier]

and if it does 4k60 only on a 4080 then it will be a badly optimized game

[oak rivet]

4k tho

[fading glacier]

but we will see

there are still no reviews of forspoken on pc

which is kinda odd, but w/e

[livid idol]

Is that the one that was supposed to be the first game to use Direct Storage? And was supposed to be out last year?

[fading glacier]

thats the one

man theres a F ton of mediocre to plain bad reviews on youtube about forspoken

and all of them are on ps5

[wicked hound]

And was announced 19238 years ago

[spare relic]

23 Jan -17215

I remember that day fondly

[flat zephyr]

I'm trying to decide if I should get a 7900xtx or a 4090, I currently have a 3080 with a i9-13900k any recommendations

[odd siren]

What's it for

[flat zephyr]

Gaming mostly lmao

[odd siren]

What resolution?

Is your monitor

[flat zephyr]

1440p

[odd siren]

Not really worth either of those cards without going to 4K then. I'd stick to the 3080

CPU's don't have the single thread power to drive an XTX/4080/4090 at 1440p rn so you end up just leaving a bunch of performance on the table in a large majority of games

3080 is a good match for 1440p tho

Also you'd potentially need a psu upgrade for the XTX if you committed to it between the two

[flat zephyr]

I'll be going to 4k shortly just waiting till tax season is over

But I already have a 1300psu gold

[odd siren]

Which psu?

Model name matters more than gold or wattage tbh

Also year

[flat zephyr]

Evga supernova g2

[odd siren]

Alr you're good. Solid tier A

If you're hard committing to 4K gaming I'd say the XTX imo

But if you want RT as well 4090 makes sense but you'll be paying a good bit more

Between the two I'd say both are very usable for high refresh 4K, even a 4080 tbh

[flat zephyr]

I don't use RT much so I'll go with xtx thanks

[odd siren]

[odd siren]

Also avoid the amd.com xtx cards for now, they have some major issues that are still being worked through (probably ok now? But just to be safe)

[flat zephyr]

Aite bet thanks

[odd siren]

Np

[hasty monolith]

Does anyone tested with a 4080 get only 4k60 in forspoken?

[heady turtle]

I've heard terrible reviews about the game anyway so I'd say the fps rate is the least of your worries

[hasty monolith]

Yep. Same here. Probably get it when its sale during black friday

[oak rivet]

Game has fsr but no dlss it seems

If you struggle to reach 60 at 4k fsr can help

[fading glacier]

more reviews should be rolling at the end of today... and as pato said, graphics are the least of the worries with that game according to the reviews yesterday

[fading glacier]

black friday is 11 months away xD

summer sale is a more reasonable time frame 😛

but i get your point, as the reviewers said "its a fun game, but not worth of the 70usd premium tag, just get it when on sale for about 25-30 max to ignore its shortcomings"

[oak rivet]

Game has dlss 2 it seems but no frame generation

[fading glacier]

yeah you cannot see dlss, because all the reviews and demos were made on ps5.... none on the pc version

consoles only use fsr

[hasty monolith]

Even though i dont have a 4080 i wonder does the game needs 4080 for team green to get 4k

[fading glacier]

no

it said 4k ultra settings

it will probably run beyond 60 fps on max or medium...

heck it can even be 4k60 natively, with fsr or dlss that could skyrocket

i dont understand your fear

i mean... why?

[keen nacelle]

Well, considering the 3090 struggles to hit 4k 60 fps in some titles

Doesn't really surprise me

[hasty monolith]

Im just bashing the devs cause of the stupid 4k ultra specs they have and 16 gigs from min specs

[fading glacier]

still cant see your point

the game is already made, too late for that

[keen nacelle]

Just turn the settings down to high

[fading glacier]

also if you already pre purchased the game, just tinker with the settings to get a comfortable fps target for you

[keen nacelle]

Or don't play at 4k

[fading glacier]

you dont need ultra to experience a game

just as bacca said, go 1440p and if you really want 4k then lower the settings

[hasty monolith]

K

[keen nacelle]

4k is for memes and 4090s

[fading glacier]

in most games if not all, the difference between ultra and high settings is almost negible

plus already confirmed from nvidia that the game will run dlss too

a 4k almost always use dlss for great effect

[oak rivet]

Inb4 forza at ultra settings

Digital foundry honestly feels like a lifesaver for reasons like these

[fading glacier]

@oak rivet For you pal

[oak rivet]

OK soo orange said ultra performance is 720p to 4k

Still not hitting 200fps

Waiting for someone to benchmark a 3060ti😭

[fading glacier]

heck

on a 4090 with rt and no upscaling at 4k... 60fps

without rt 75 fps

[oak rivet]

That's on a 4090 soo 4080 is not doing 60 then

[fading glacier]

dlss quality will give like 10-20 fps more

nope

and thats not even on a battle sequence

yikes!

48fps on a light battle

this game will be so bombed xD

[oak rivet]

Hoping 6600 and upwards still somehow manage 60fps at 1080p ultra 🙏

[vital oriole]

lol

ultra

[oak rivet]

downloading it rn

[vital oriole]

very much doubt it

[fading glacier]

yeah i doubt it as well

when they said 4080 4k60fps ultra, and the 4090 is struggling to hit 60fps.....

light battle 42-46 fps

on those big battles with particles all around that pc will hit 30

[vital oriole]

im guessing it's with rt off

[fading glacier]

rt on, rt off lever 10-15 more fps

he already tested it on that live stream

however no dlss

just native

[oak rivet]

it has vrs

another dx 12 ultimate feature

[vital oriole]

vrs isn't really magical

not that it's a bad feature of course

it does help

[fading glacier]

if the 4090 is struggling this much, i suspect a 4080 will hit 45-50 without dlss

and the ultra settings on the requirements page is with dlss

also 18gb vram

kinda heavy

[oak rivet]

think i saw enough not gonna spoil myself

[fading glacier]

omg, 35 fps on a heavy particle fight

yup you are right

saw too much as well

[cyan vault]

Will the new nvidia drivers be good 🤔

[livid idol]

?8ball

Grrrrr bot change

[cyan vault]

I will update and hope

[fading glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/8ball-bart-simpson-shaking-shake-magic-ball-gif-17725278

[fading glacier]

new drivers only add support to 3 new games, if you are not into those games then there is no point in updating drivers.... you could end with a worse drvier for the games you play as an example

[cyan vault]

im planning on trying the new dead space 🙂

despite all the eh responses ive heard

[oak rivet]

Added frame generation for a few games

[fading glacier]

oh then just spray and pray

ill update mine when hogwart drivers releases

[cyan vault]

as long as there arent any performance issues...

i love the silly little things they change without us knowing

[fading glacier]

yup, thats why you dont update unless needed

you could end with a worse driver

patches be that way since ancient times.... upgrade a thing, break a dozen

even caesar and alexander knew that

[cyan vault]

sadly ;(

[oak rivet]

https://videocardz.com/driver/amd-radeon-software-adrenalin-23-1-12-rx-7900

Amd with some optimizations for the game aswell

[sacred crow]

For GPUs there is often two of the same model that either come factory overclocked and one that does not. Could one not just manually overclock the GPU to match the overclocked one or do they do binning to upcharge?

[fading glacier]

you can manually overclock to match the overclocked one, yes

oc ones are just for people that dont want to mess with ocing

[odd siren]

Paying for an oc version is slinging another $25 for maybe 1% more performance lol

[glass kite]

iGame 4090 Neptune OC or 4090 suprim liquid X?

[odd siren]

Suprim

No competition

[fading glacier]

any day of the week

[odd siren]

AMA

[fading glacier]

What are you wearing today?

[glass kite]

Nothing

[odd siren]

Underwear

[fading glacier]

dang, sweet

truly an AMA

[keen nacelle]

An inflatable t Rex suit

[fading glacier]

[orchid loom]

https://tenor.com/view/dinosaur-t-rex-going-down-gif-14964095

[solid glacier]

Okay so my gou got RMA and they said nothing was wrong with it lol Can I try a nvidia gpu now to see if the problem still exists

To see if it’s my GPU slot

[livid idol]

Go for it

[solid glacier]

If I buy a power supply tester will that determine if my PSU is working correctly?

Bc on my end my gpu drops like draw, and on the RMA end it didn’t

[livid idol]

PSU testers only tell you if the PSU will turn on and it's at the right voltage unless you get the load testers that cost thousands of dollars

[solid glacier]

Ohh

[normal hawk]

What are the good models of the 7900 XTX and was it only the reference ones that had the serious thermal issues earlier?

[sonic mural]

I don't think the extent of "was it only MBA cards effected" has been fully figured out yet

[normal hawk]

ah okay

[solid glacier]

Not sure what my issue is now, I RMA my gpy and their results was stable didn’t drop once but when I run It on my system it isn’t stable wth

[sonic flower]

@solid glacier are you running a riser cable? Which slot do you have the card plugged into?

[solid glacier]

A riser cable?

And frost

First slot

[vital oriole]

Riser cable is a pcie slot extender used for mounting a gpu vertically

Unrelated to this case since you don't have any of that

[sonic flower]

Is the motherboard BIOS up to date? and have you tried a CMOS reset?

[solid glacier]

Bro the gpu did dip on the test they sent me

[hasty sphinx]

I bet it's the same issue I had with my system and an AMD GPU. That's why I suggested just getting an Nvidia card.

[solid glacier]

I have to sell this one first lolll

[hasty sphinx]

Won't let you return? Who did you get it through? Throw a fit at support and keep telling them there is something wrong with it. Be a thorn in their side.

[solid glacier]

Newegg but I bought it in august

[hasty sphinx]

Have you tried contacting NeweggService in this server? Let them know that you've aleady RMA and it's still not working right.

See if there is anything they can do.

[solid glacier]

How do I contact them through here? Do I just dm them

[livid idol]

Yes they'll get back to you in business hours

[solid glacier]

Cool just did that

[hasty sphinx]

Let them know that you've spent countless hours with members of this server to troubleshoot the issues and that nothing is fixing it.

[solid glacier]

Bet I will ty

[solid glacier]

No luck with Newegg

[terse temple]

is the 6700xt or 3060 ti better for games like overwatch and valorant

[random walrus]

6700xt is slightly faster (5-10% maybe? And 3060ti has the Nvidia stuff, so slightly better raytracing, dlss, recording, ect

IMO if they're the same price get 3060ti but usually 6700xt is cheaper so I'd get that

[livid idol]

Nvenc for streaming isn't a selling point any more since AMD greatly improved their encoder

[keen nacelle]

Isn't that just on 7000 series though?

[random walrus]

Tensor cores pretty cool as well

[livid idol]

No 6000 too

They improved it with the drivers

[terse temple]

i think 7000 series is cpu

[livid idol]

It's also GPU

You can have a computer with a 7900X CPU and a 7900XT GPU right now, both are the latest gen

[ivory herald]

And people say intel or nvidia names are confusing.

[livid idol]

What do you mean B660 isn't better than B650, it's a higher number! Different platform? What's that?

[solemn panther]

👀

[heady turtle]

The cheaper one

[terse temple]

so it doesnt matter what brand or 2 or 3 fans?

[heady turtle]

Not really

If the mech/ventus is cheapest and 2nd cheapest isn't much more then get that instead unless out of budget but it's just coolers

[terse temple]

okay

also would it be worth to upgrade from i3 9100f to i5 9600k

i dont know a lot about computer specs but a friend of mine is willing to sell me a 9600k for 100 euros

[heady turtle]

No 9600k for 100€ is not worth, imo I'd just save up to like 250 ish and get a ryzen/i5 of the latest/2nd latest gen if you wanted to upgrade cpu

[terse temple]

but then i also have to upgrade motherboard

so itll cost a lot

but thanks

[heady turtle]

Yes that's why it would be 250, roughly 100 for motherboard 150 for cpu

[terse temple]

ohh okay

any recommendations for motherboard

[heady turtle]

Well do you have the money to upgrade your motherboard and cpu? Also what country

[terse temple]

im from the netherlands

[terse temple]

not really im kind of just planning ahead

[heady turtle]

Ah well not much point in that price part and availability changes so when you do wanna upgrade come back and ask again

[terse temple]

think ill have 250 by like june or july

okay will do

[fading glacier]

?pato

[neat venture]

https://tenor.com/view/british-britain-chad-gigachad-british-gigachad-gif-24302431

[fading glacier]

wth

the prophecies were true

[oak rivet]

At same price yes

[random walrus]

I'd say they're worth a bit more but depends if you actually plan to use them

[heady turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/slap-face-gif-18202319

[frail pasture]

Best 3080 cards?

[keen nacelle]

ventus 3x is a no

rest are a yes if you're just gaming and have decent airflow

3 pin models are better, especially if you plan to oc

[heady turtle]

Thr cheapest non ventus

[frail pasture]

I have good airflow, no desire to oc as of now

[keen nacelle]

would still try to find a 3 pin one, if the price diff isn't that big

[frail pasture]

Gigabyte is good, usually has the better ratings and cooling capacity, EVGA has good support and usually the flashy rgb models, sometimes better priced. And Asus is the intro level/get what you pay for with nothing extra. I'd avoid Nvidia as a manufacturer for now due to their pricing and power issues on the newer cards.

That’s what I was told by a friend

[keen nacelle]

none of that is accurate

gigabyte is ok, they have some qc issues but overall is fine

evga is great, but no longer manufactures cards as of 40 series

asus is arguably the best, just overpriced

every brand has multiple models though

[frail pasture]

Ye just trying to figure out which route to go

[keen nacelle]

cheapest that isn't ventus 3x

[frail pasture]

Appreciate the advice

[heady turtle]

The last statement is kinda right, their last gen pricing is quite wacky if lookin new tbf

[keen nacelle]

a few of the better ones include the strix and gaming z trio

[keen nacelle]

are you buying used?

if you're buying new i wouldn't buy a 3080 at all

[frail pasture]

Planned on buying new hard to trust people lol

[keen nacelle]

disagree, but what country are you in

4070 ti is better and cheaper, as well as lower power usage in a lot of countries

[frail pasture]

US

[keen nacelle]

def 4070 ti then

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kVqPxr/asus-tuf-gaming-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-12-gb-video-card-tuf-rtx4070ti-12g-gaming

or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wRpzK8/zotac-gaming-trinity-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-12-gb-video-card-zt-d40710d-10p

[frail pasture]

Not in stock other than amazon, over 1k usd

[keen nacelle]

one sec

pcp is being stupid

ok here we go https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-rtx-4070-ti-ventus-3x-12g-oc/p/N82E16814137772?

ventus 3x is acceptable on 40 series

though this is probably better https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BQCVTSR3?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[heady turtle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KWnypg/msi-gaming-x-trio-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-12-gb-video-card-rtx-4070-ti-gaming-x-trio-12g

For 820 at b&h

[keen nacelle]

oh nice

also a good choice, any of those 3 would be great

[keen nacelle]

and out of curiosity, fresh build or upgrading existing one?

[heady turtle]

I'd get the trio cuz it's cheapest and best of the 3

Or at least probs the best

[frail pasture]

Upgrading

[heady turtle]

Haven't looked at trinity this gen

[odd siren]

they're all good

like no 4070 Ti is underbuilt really

I haven't looked at the palit tho, palit went super cheap this gen

stupid gamerock 💀

[frail pasture]

Currently have a 2070S have no problems with it, just looking to upgrade

Appreciate the advice again 👍

[keen nacelle]

outta pure curiosity, what cpu do you have?

[frail pasture]

Uhm, i7 9700k

Probably upgrade that as well

[keen nacelle]

yeah i would when you can

13400/13500/13600k are great options

though if you plan to play at 4k it would likely be fine

[frail pasture]

I’m still a 1080p gamer

[heady turtle]

I'd personally wait another gen or 2 to upgrade the cpu if you're not having issues with it

[frail pasture]

No issues at all yet, probably need to replace thermal paste but not having any problems with temps

[odd siren]

Could probably run that with a 4070ti at 4k no problems tbh

[keen nacelle]

3080+ for 1080p

Pain

[odd siren]

Considering they have a 2070S rn they probably don't need a psu change

4070ti + decent 4K 120hz

[keen nacelle]

Decent 650w would likely do

[odd siren]

Ye

[keen nacelle]

2070s normally fine on a decent 450, though I doubt they have a 450

[frail pasture]

I have a 850psu 👍

[keen nacelle]

Model?

[frail pasture]

Corsair uh

850x?

[keen nacelle]

Rmx?

[frail pasture]

Ye

[keen nacelle]

Nice

Among the best psus

[odd siren]

Sorted

Lol

[keen nacelle]

4090 would be fine on that

[odd siren]

3090ti would be

[frail pasture]

No idea how much 2/4k monitors are

[keen nacelle]

Can find a good 1440p one for around $210

Imo unless you're buying a 4080/7900xtx or better I would stick to 1440p, purely bc of the cost of high refresh 4k panels

[odd siren]

4K you'd be looking at quite the premium but imo worth doing

Ye

1440p would make as much sense then a cpu upgrade to a 13600K

[frail pasture]

Currently have a 27inch 1080p display

Asus

[livid idol]

4k high refresh are starting at $700 unless you go super cheap VA panel

[frail pasture]

What are good 2k panels? Asus ones are way more

[odd siren]

M27Q

Would be imo the best

You also have M27Q-X

G27Q

HP X27Q (the other 3 are gigabyte)

1440p 144hz is a bit lackluster tho for a 4070Ti

[heady turtle]

Hp pricing atm is big stonks

Hp 32q as well good prices

[frail pasture]

Are asus monitors good still/anymore? It’s really all I’ve ever had

Seems higher than everything else

[heady turtle]

No real well priced ones in the US atm

[odd siren]

Asus monitors tend to be good but the prices are generally gross

I think the tuf vq259 is the only decent and decent priced normally? It's a 1080p

Can't remember the code off the top of my head

Way out of range for a 4070ti lolol

[oak rivet]

Modern AAA games 👀

[ivory herald]

VG259QR is what I bought before the HP. Quite pleased w/ the Asus, good smooth picture, etc.

[frail pasture]

ASUS VG278QR 27"

thats my main monitor

my secondary is this https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27gl650f-b-gaming-monitor

got it for like 90 bucks off of facebook marketplace, was 239 USD brand new

[cyan vault]

Not sure if this is graphics card, but when I'm playing like a select few games it will randomly go max fans and display turns off

Originally, I thought it was pretty obvious overclocking issues

But I don't even have my GPU overclocked

The only thing I can imagine is that I have my CPU with the curve optimizer on? But everything else is untouched

[livid idol]

You can narrow things down by undoing every overclock, cpu and memory (xmp) included

[cyan vault]

Yeah the only other ones I have active are CPU and RAM.

But oddly enough when it happens I can still like, hear everything in my computer and I stay in the game

It's just that the display turns off and fan goes max

And it only happens in 2-3 games

[livid idol]

You can save a profile to a usb drive so you can quickly reload your settings but I'd recommend a cmos clear

That's the fastest way to make sure everything is default

[cyan vault]

Yeah but would memory/cpu do that? Genuinely curious because I can still hear everything perfectly and it only happens in 2 specific games afaik

Which seems super random

[livid idol]

Memory can be super weird with issues

[cyan vault]

What was the crash dump location?

[livid idol]

C:\Windows\Minidump

[cyan vault]

Yeah I don't have anything there cause I eventually just restart my PC since it still works lol

That's weird

[livid idol]

If you have full dumps enabled you'll have a C:\Windows\MEMORY.dmp

[cyan vault]

Yeah I don't actually crash though

I'll check if theres a crash log for those specific games

[livid idol]

So it's a driver crash

[cyan vault]

Maybe? I recently updated my nvidia drivers and I didn't do a full DDU run

So I guess that could be it? not sure lol

[livid idol]

I thought I had seen you ran DDU in the recent past

[cyan vault]

Yeah I did in the past

But for my most recent GPU update I just did the nvidia express installation