graphics-cards

[oak rivet]

thats your opinion there is definetly audience for that

[rugged thunder]

Gonna need a 4090 for those unoptimized games at 1080p tbh

[vital oriole]

ah yes

[fading glacier]

indeed

[rugged thunder]

Brute force good framerates

My CPU will just have to man up

[vital oriole]

everyone needs 500 fps overwatch gaming on their 4090 at 1080p

[fading glacier]

and its a widely accepted opinion

[vital oriole]

definitely

definitely someone will use a $1600 gpu for 1080p

[rugged thunder]

I need 800fps in CSGO

And I want it now

[keen nacelle]

Buy a $1600 gpu to pair with a $100 cpu at 1080p 60 hz

[fading glacier]

but bacca

thats your opinion

there is a target audience for that

[keen nacelle]

And that target audience is objectively wrong

[rugged thunder]

Get a PS5
Play it at 1080p

All 5 games

[fading glacier]

jokes aside, you dont spend that much to play at 1080p

[keen nacelle]

Never

[keen nacelle]

Any current 7000 or 40 series cards shouldn't be anywhere near 1080p unless you're a professional esports player

[fading glacier]

so, those benchmarks are largely irrelevant at 1080p

[keen nacelle]

Considering a 3060 ti is more than enough for 1440p 120 fps in a large chunk of games

[vital oriole]

i literally see no one use 3090 with 1080p monitor

only 1440p or above

[rugged thunder]

I will make sure I do that as soon as possible

Out of sheer spite

(for the funny)

[keen nacelle]

Have fun with that

[rugged thunder]

1000fps in quake on my 60hz display

[oak rivet]

my friend with 10400f and 3090 at 1080p still ending up gpu bound in games he plays

[keen nacelle]

I highly doubt that

I was seeing 80% cpu usage with a 3600 and 3060 ti at 1080p in most demanding games

3600 is very similar to 104000f

[oak rivet]

1080p native ultra rt is incredibly gpu demanding

[fading glacier]

ok im out

have fun ladies, gotta work

[vital oriole]

lmao

see ya

[keen nacelle]

Same, I'm going to math class

[vital oriole]

well i guess im out to do something else

[oak rivet]

people said my gpu was good for 1440p when it released aswell

well saw how that aged

[rugged thunder]

Truly the GPU ever

[oak rivet]

over my dead body would i go for more then 1440p

[wicked hound]

What about 1441p?

[oak rivet]

now we need to see 7900xtx run portal rtx

6950xt was getting 10fps

[rugged thunder]

Portal RTX (lame)

Normal Portal (cool)

[oak rivet]

after playing it for hours now

i can see why its soo freaking demanding

[rugged thunder]

I just think it's

Kinda gimmicky tbh

I prefer my portal looking drab thank you very much

[oak rivet]

[rugged thunder]

Didn't like it since reveal

Probably would've been a better pair with Half Life 2 or something

Nostalgia critic thumbnail

[oak rivet]

AMD seems to have some driver magic that allows them to massively out perform NVidia at lower resolutions. Aside from that it's slightly faster than a 4080, and gets stomped at RT by NVidia

[rugged thunder]

The real best deal is just getting a used gpu

3080 looking real nice rn

[orchid loom]

I want spikes as much as 1200W please

[rugged thunder]

It would be quite funny

[vital oriole]

artifacts, crashes and stuff

[dreamy dragon]

oll!e#6615 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[oak rivet]

dont like this monopoly tbh

4090 remains in its own category for now lol with no competition

[vital oriole]

idk nvidia has always had the lead in some way or some form

[oak rivet]

well with 6950xt and 3090ti they were neck and neck in general

[vital oriole]

yeah, not until rt and dlss comes into equation, not like everyone cares about rt but there's dlss

[rugged thunder]

I'm running out of "it is what it is"

When isn't it an RDr2 issue

Rockstar games usually tend to be

Be rockstar
Make good games
Make the worst pc ports known to man

Like anything before GTAV they've ported is awful in some way or another

Especially San Andreas and GTA4

Rely on your fanbase to fix it

[hasty sphinx]

Could just need to DDU.

[winged minnow]

Is the 7900xtx better than last gen nvidia at raytracing?

[oak rivet]

Better then 3070ti yes

I still need to see a few hours of benchmarks more to see how it's like compared to 3080 and upwards

[fading glacier]

you need to see the reviews on youtube, at this point we know as much as you know

[clever salmon]

So I'm gonna be in the market for a new GPU in the coming months and I'm not too sure as to what's good and what isn't good (price to performance wise) that's come out recently. What do you guys recommend?

[hasty sphinx]

You'll want to ask much closer to when you are ready to press the buy button. Prices fluctuate constantly, so what may be good value today, may not be good value tomorrow.

[clever salmon]

True

[hoary sun]

No any performance gain lol

Looks like power limited

[clever salmon]

But knowing what's good now could mean it could be better to buy in the future.

And vice versa of course

[hasty sphinx]

Whether you know what is good now or then makes no difference on what the price will be in the future.

Literally can't help you find the best value for you until much closer to the time you are ready to press the buy button.

[fading glacier]

you should start with the resolution you play, games that you like to play and your budget

based on that we can advise you in the better buy for you right now.... as reo said, in the coming months prices could fluctuate a lot

heck even weeks is enough in the tech world for prices to be wild

rite now the best price/performers are the radeon 6000 series cards

6600 is a beast on 1080p, 6600xt is a good performer on 1440p, while 6800xt is the best price/performer on 4k

nvidia cards while good they are still way overpriced vs the amd cards

4090 is a halo card, while 4080 is badly badly priced even for a 4k card

[oak rivet]

[clever salmon]

I play at 1440, mostly play cyberpunk and Skyrim (heavily modded), and my budget would be around $1200 I'd say.

[oak rivet]

[fading glacier]

you should look at the reviews of the upcoming 7900xtx on youtube to see if it can convince you, that card will launch tomorrow

[clever salmon]

Truth be told, I have no real reason to upgrade, but I would like that little bit of extra headroom with a stronger GPU (more vram, more overall horsepower, ect.)

[oak rivet]

I do wonder if a used 4090 can be possible in the upcoming months

For 1200$

[fading glacier]

not happening

while the 4090 retain its crown, it will be a gold mine for scalpers

for a ver very long time

[oak rivet]

It's retaining its crown by a good lead aswell

[fading glacier]

even used it can be milked to 2k usd

easily

[clever salmon]

I was interested in a 4080 but honestly it isn't a worthwhile buy in most cases

[fading glacier]

not for the price, no

[oak rivet]

3090ti can do decent rt in cyberpunk if you use dlss at quality at 1440p

[fading glacier]

you could very well buy an xtx depending on the market conditions tomorrow or just aim for a 3080 at 700usd

3090ti new is not a good buy rn

its a terrible waste of money new

3090ti is only worth used

[clever salmon]

I mean a 3080 wouldn't be a huge jump for me sadly

[fading glacier]

which card do you have rn?

[clever salmon]

I'm using a 3070 rn

[hasty sphinx]

Then you are prob looking at 40 series or the 7000 series amd

[clever salmon]

This is why I say I don't really need to upgrade

[fading glacier]

not to be rude man, but if you dont need an upgrade then just ask when you need it... your card will be very good for some years

[clever salmon]

Oh ik

[fading glacier]

in some years there will be a whole new cards, and prices

is pointless to look at comparisons rn for you if you dont need anything rn

[clever salmon]

Like I said previously the extra vram would be quite a nice upgrade considering the 3070 only has 8gb

[fading glacier]

i have a friend who owns 3060ti and he is very happy with his card until the rtx5000 series

[fading glacier]

at 1440p that will age well

[clever salmon]

True

Idk I'll chew on the thought for a couple of months and see what has changed in the market.

[oak rivet]

Inb4 forza and large open world games

[keen nacelle]

vram doesn't dictate performance, I would recommend waiting until you feel the need to upgrade

if you could wait for 60 or 8000 series, you would get much better price/perf

[fading glacier]

indeed

[keen nacelle]

or even for prices on current stuff to drop in price

[fading glacier]

by the time your 3070 will start to age, we will probably have 4060ti at 500usd

as an example

or an rtx5070 at 800 usd

[oak rivet]

Discord for some reason takes a lot of vram

[fading glacier]

so, again, no point in looking at comparisons rn if you are happy with what you have and dont want an upgrade rn

nor need one

in fact, looking at reviews rn will make you waste money cause anxiety... you will have the wrong impression that you need an upgrade

when in reality, you dont

[clever salmon]

That's what I'm thinking I might do, cause my 3070 still treats me well. Would it be nice to have a new shiny 1000$ Brick in my PC? Sure, but it's not needed.

[fading glacier]

should treat you well for 3 or 4 more years at least

when new AAA games start to force you from very high to medium

and even at that point some games still look well

in 4 years you card could be the next 1070 of today... and the 1070 is still a good card to have

[clever salmon]

The games I listed earlier were my 2 most taxing games that I play.

[oak rivet]

The card has dlss even then should rather do that then turn settings down

[clever salmon]

Funnily enough I used the 1070 for a good amount of time before I switched to my current gpu

[fading glacier]

as safi said, dlss will give more value to your card in the coming years

so chill man

forget about this gen or next gen

ask again on 5000 rtx series or next gen amd

skip this gen, your 3070 is very well

[clever salmon]

I'm not too worried about upgrading anymore, you guys were quite persuasive.

[wicked hound]

Cuz it never flushes it's buffers. If you stream then leave the call, discord will almost never unallocate all the random garbage it doesn't need.

[oak rivet]

The steam majority is still a 1650 lol

[fading glacier]

really? i thought steam survey pointed the 1060 as the most used

[wicked hound]

I truly do love how it moved from a 1060 (better GPU) to a 1650S (worse GPU).

[hasty sphinx]

oi, I loved my 1650s xD

[wicked hound]

After years on end, we've only regressed.

[oak rivet]

1650 non super iirc

https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1650-overtakes-GeForce-GTX-1060-as-most-popular-GPU-in-Steam-November-2022-hardware-survey.672408.0.html

[wicked hound]

Dang that even worse then I thought it was.

[oak rivet]

Seems 27% worse on average

[fading glacier]

it is

[heady turtle]

Wouldn't use tpu for gpu or cpu comparisons btw they mix and match ram and cpu between benchmarks

[fading glacier]

maybe ppl thought that the higher the number, the better the card

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-face-palm-seriously-exasperated-gif-7304550

[vital oriole]

changed recently

probably comes from all the cheap gaming laptops

[wicked hound]

Can't imagine they'd name 1650M same as 1650. 1650M has more SMs then 1650 (whacky fact).

[fading glacier]

you know, when you think about it... nvidia saved the gpu market unknowingly, and still we hate them

by making the 4080 non scalpable, the whole market below cant be scalped either

xtx cant be scalped, cause then the 4080 is available.... 4070ti? cant be scalped either, cause at one point it will hit 4080 price and the 4080 is widely available

funny when you think about it

[solemn panther]

Stop making sense

[fading glacier]

thought on that cause i read some random guy talking about scalping and things like that on youtube.... like? how much an xtx can be scalped? 1200usd? ill go and buy a 4080 instead which at this point we all know is superior

scalping the xtx will be a disaster for scalpers xD

[runic crypt]

gomputers

graphics cards are so huge they’re a computer in your computer

[orchid loom]

So I was at work how are the results looking guys

[fading glacier]

time to check youtube kenzie xD

[oak rivet]

Wouldn't have it any other way

Small gpus look horrible imo

[runic crypt]

are they better huge than tiny?

[fading glacier]

depend on a lot of factors

huge heatsinks can make a gpu a lot bigger, sometimes is justified by the amount of heat produced... sometimes dont

better huge than tiny? that will fall into the user... do you like your gpu tiny or a big brick?

i prefer tiny gpus instead of big ones

someday i will water loop my system, just because

[celest matrix]

I have the trace930 computer built by ibuypower.. but, I was hoping to purcase a new graphics card could you tell me what is compatible?

[sonic mural]

Depends what power supply you have, a bit of case clearance for specific aib model, and what your budget is

[celest matrix]

480 or 500

I want a 3060 hopefully. i7-770

currently

3080 would be better but i dont think i have the wattage

[odd siren]

770?

[celest matrix]

7700

[fading glacier]

is a 7700 pc

[odd siren]

7700 ok

[celest matrix]

sry

[fading glacier]

by the specs, yeah probably a 500w pc

if not less

[keen nacelle]

I can almost guarantee that pc is not worth upgrading if it has a 770 in it

[odd siren]

Ah ye then prolly like, 6700 non XT at most

[celest matrix]

yeah??

I was not sure

[fading glacier]

you should check your psu before jumping into the gpu department

[celest matrix]

im really new to this

im in a calc now

[fading glacier]

found it

480w psu

allied psu

[celest matrix]

so

should I just start over?

lmfao

[fading glacier]

should be on the very limit for a 3060, but the bois around here know better than me

[celest matrix]

should I just start over?

[celest matrix]

Thank you that's very helpful.

I have had this pc almost 5 years now so idk if i should upgrade parts or restart with a prebuild with better components

[fading glacier]

that depend on your budget

there are some cheap good prebuilts

[orchid loom]

My pc is off and my phone is dead

@fading glacier also I don't want some stinky youtube answer I want your honest opinion

[odd siren]

If pc and phone are dead....

How are you talking

[fading glacier]

my opinion? is toe to toe with the 4080, a tie in raster, better on some, worse on others than the 4080, the rt performance is a win for team green but is acceptable

[odd siren]

[fading glacier]

seems like a good buy, you trade 200 usd for rt performance, but raster is the same on both cards

we just need to know prices on the aib cards

if they are close to 1200, then the 4080 is superior

xtx is a good deal on 1k, at 1.1k start to lose valor, and at 1150 usd then is a no

at least, thats my opinion

[odd siren]

Oh

[fading glacier]

yeah was a bad typo

😛

suck at math

[odd siren]

Just

Fwiw here

The 4080 makes the XTX look good

[fading glacier]

damn that sounds..... true

[odd siren]

Generationally it's not as significant

[fading glacier]

all in all i think the 4080 is the superior buy between both, you trade 200usd for rt and other features.... how much you value those features? up to you

[odd siren]

4080 still doesn't really make true sense

Used 3090/Ti still wins overall

[fading glacier]

ofc not, i just making the comparison between the two cards

if you add exisiting cards, then the xtx lose a lot of value as well, generational value

[odd siren]

Idk for me RT is like totally worthless lol, XTX makes a lot more sense

[fading glacier]

was way to hyped for what amd delivered

is a good card and good price, but i think ppl expected more

[odd siren]

Ofc it was overhyped

But if it can OC to close to 3GHz

Then meh, it's def gonna be quick

[fading glacier]

the power consumption is kinda wacky

its pegged at 350w, in anything

[odd siren]

7990 XTX seems like it could spit closer to 4090 numbers

[fading glacier]

and rest at 150w on idle on windows

kinda weird

[odd siren]

Wonder if that's related to the silicon issues they were apparently having

[fading glacier]

like the card is brute forcing performance to match the 4080

while the 4080 is having a walk in the park

[odd siren]

Tbf @fading glacier , that's more normal of cards we've seen

Ada is voltage pegged

[fading glacier]

or just some weird silicon issues

[odd siren]

It's a different behaviour

[odd siren]

If you open the power on Ada cards they just won't use it unless you force the voltage limit higher

[fading glacier]

ohhh

[odd siren]

If you compare that to like turing or ampere, it's normal

[fading glacier]

true

[odd siren]

The only way I get the 4090 to use 600W is with a straight power virus*

Lolol

[odd siren]

Interesting, both cards have similar performance for streaming and quality is the same for AV1

No more overhead

But needs to be AV1

[odd siren]

Hmm h.265 seems good too

[orchid loom]

do i really need to explain it to you

[keen nacelle]

i dont really get it either

[sonic mural]

I second this ^

[odd siren]

[sonic mural]

Explain right now 👹 👹 👹

[orchid loom]

My pc was off and my phone was at 1% still enough juice to talk

[sonic mural]

Bros desperate

[orchid loom]

[sonic mural]

Plug in your phone so you don't have to turn it back on again

[orchid loom]

it is now and my pc is on

[orchid loom]

i needed it to see in dark

[sonic mural]

Power usage

[odd siren]

Wow phone was still alive

I can't believe you've done this

[orchid loom]

emergency power mode i can use my phone on 0%

[sonic mural]

From a logical standpoint that doesn't make sense

[orchid loom]

yea it kinda does

bc

[odd siren]

https://tenor.com/view/k_tor-power-box50-power-box50ktor-ktor-emergency-energy-emergency-power-gif-15462325

[orchid loom]

1% is 1.00 or something ten you have 0.99% left and so on

but 0.99% is gunna be in 0%

[sonic mural]

Be neat if phones told you the actual battery you had left

Since they'll shut off before being totally drained to protect the battery

[odd siren]

mAh would be nice

[orchid loom]

oh no guys im at 0.01% ahhhhhhhhh

[sonic mural]

They'll probs add voltage which would be not helpful lol

[odd siren]

Kenzie lied to me

Phone was living

[orchid loom]

standard mode 0% = death
power save mode 0% = maybe 5 second left
emergency mode 0% = 1 min left

[orchid loom]

I never lie

[odd siren]

https://tenor.com/view/caught-in-5000k-gif-20880260

[sonic mural]

That in itself is a lie

[orchid loom]

I just keep things from you

[sonic mural]

Now you're playing like 5d chess

[orchid loom]

I only tell you what you need to hear

[odd siren]

That's called lying Kenzie

[orchid loom]

no

i am just fibbing the truth a bit

[odd siren]

Fibbing is lying

[orchid loom]

NO

its to keep you calm

its for your safety

[odd siren]

I lose my calm because I hear the worse parts later

[orchid loom]

okay i can explain

[orchid loom]

no

[odd siren]

Like, tell me the whole story of what happened and it's less a battle lol

[orchid loom]

thats not allowed

some stuff must stay hiddenm

[odd siren]

It spills out anyway

And even if it doesn't you come back later with more problems until it does

The truth hurts less than the lie

This is getting melodramatic LMAO

[orchid loom]

yea thats why i dont lie

[orchid loom]

[orchid loom]

@odd siren https://videocardz.com/newz/galax-officially-launches-geforce-rtx-4090-hof-dual-16-pin-and-666w-power-limit

@hoary sun heres your white GPU

[odd siren]

Pointless for daily

[orchid loom]

No

[odd siren]

Also it's like, 3K USD or something stupid

It is

[orchid loom]

We need 600W gpus bc I paid 100% for the adapter I'm gunna use 600W of it

[odd siren]

good luck trying to get 600W

Not even I could do it

[orchid loom]

Well this gpu can you gotta buy this one

[odd siren]

[orchid loom]

Sell your old 4090 it's to weak

[fading glacier]

that card should eat 1000w

600w is way too low, i want my money back

[odd siren]

Man my top 100 card too weak huh

[orchid loom]

Yea

[odd siren]

I'm waiting for that 1000W vbios they'll give out with it eventually

[orchid loom]

Yay

[odd siren]

People are gonna flash it and find it does nothing

[orchid loom]

I wanna use excessive power for no reason

[odd siren]

"Why is my gpu still only pulling 520W?"

[orchid loom]

I technically wanna see how the 4090 cooler does on high load

[fading glacier]

you should crack an egg on top of it to clear any doubts

[orchid loom]

It's so thicc how much wattage can it cool

[fading glacier]

was designed for 600w

[odd siren]

The coolers will run 600W

[fading glacier]

and it does not cool, just dissipate heat

[odd siren]

But would you run 600W? No, Ada don't work like that

nor does your 13600K btw

[fading glacier]

well, not dissipate, is just a heat transfer step

[orchid loom]

Yea I need a bigger rad to cool 600W

[orchid loom]

AHHHHH I can't wait until Tomorrow

[rustic pulsar]

what happans tmr?

[orchid loom]

Bruh

[oak rivet]

This happens

[rustic pulsar]

hot

[fading glacier]

have to say

thats quite a nice looking card offf hot af

that seem to be a real heatsink, not like the reference models

pipes and all

[orchid loom]

Hmmmm

[hasty sphinx]

Ugly af lol

[fading glacier]

how dare you... that grill looks so good, so tasty with some meat on top

the lava effect is a nice touch

[orchid loom]

Ban

[solemn panther]

ugly

yes

[hoary sun]

[heady turtle]

Tbf the backplate does look odd

[odd siren]

Half cooked steak

I like it but seeing it at a three quarter angle I'm also meh lol

The sapphire card looked nicer

[oak rivet]

Something wrong is going on here

Hope it gets fixed with driver updates

[heady turtle]

The red plastic do look quite tacky imo

Yeah LTT even said with one monitor they'd get 150w and on another 75w

On idle

[odd siren]

What is this turing

RDNA efficiency where

[cerulean rover]

Hopefully it's not a side effect of the architecture

[heady turtle]

Could possibly be

[heady turtle]

It's efficient at full throttle?

[odd siren]

Tbf my ampere cards can glitch out to do that with multi-monitor

Suddenly 250W and 80% of it from one screen

Idle

But animated wallpaper

[heady turtle]

Lol wtf my 3060 ti is always like 20w

[odd siren]

Lowest I'd get to is like 30-35W

My Ada card is idling at 45W

Tbf that's idling on specifically a 4K 144Hz screen with HDR tho

I turn that down to 120Hz SDR 1080p and it goes to 38W

[oak rivet]

One more reason to not move on from 1080p

[keen nacelle]

... for a 7w idle difference?

... with a 4090?

[orchid loom]

Hardware box said it is

Amd is no longer efficient and I think he even said there's high spikes too

The card may use less power overall but it's hella not efficient

[odd siren]

box of hardware

unbox my wares

[orchid loom]

Bruh

@odd siren where are the gpus Felix huh did you steal them already

[odd siren]

boxing my hard things

[orchid loom]

Omg

[odd siren]

I've already stopped u

[orchid loom]

[odd siren]

hmm

[orchid loom]

microcenter sad

[heady turtle]

I think we should go back to 480p to stop using an extra 7w over 1440p

Xt non x seems not to be worth it really

[keen nacelle]

I'm just so confused by his logic

Like

First off, going from 1080p to 1440p for me the difference was night and day

Why are you going to spend $1600+ on a gpu, to pair with a mediocre monitor, to save 7w while idle

[vital oriole]

Don't worry about it, he just doesn't wanna buy a better monitor to go with the strong gpu kek

Smells like copium

[keen nacelle]

I think I'd prefer spending money on a 3080 with a 1440p monitor than a 4090 on 1080p

Atleast that way I'd get my money's worth

[vital oriole]

I agree honestly

[keen nacelle]

4090 at 1080p no matter the cpu would be sleeping the entire time

Just no point

[vital oriole]

nah needs that ultra mega high fps in cyberpunk with rt ultra

[keen nacelle]

Also, why shill rtx because of how great it looks

And then play on 1080p

[vital oriole]

cuz rt is heavy obviously

need muh rt

[keen nacelle]

It's just such backwards logic

[vital oriole]

jokes aside, i fully agree with everything

it's counterintuitive

[keen nacelle]

"I'm going to play on 1080p because of how much higher frames are, but I'm going to use rtx to drop my frames by 70% for some nice sunlight"

[vital oriole]

cares about image fidelity, but proceeds to use 1080p

i don't get it

[keen nacelle]

Whatever, I'm going back to my anime

[orchid loom]

Time will likely be 8:55-9:00 AM EST

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[keen nacelle]

Amd direct is 8:05 CST, or 9:05 EST

I'm joining for the memes

[orchid loom]

lol

[royal crest]

new egg is up

[orchid loom]

what is this

120mm

[heady turtle]

Samesies

[orchid loom]

[keen nacelle]

I'm 100% not buying anything from it

[orchid loom]

i will once it comes into newegg

[keen nacelle]

I've a few reasons not to

My bank account would cry, I dont need a gpu upgrade, and my mom would kill me

[orchid loom]

lol

[keen nacelle]

32 minutes for me

[heady turtle]

Wtf 3 mins lest in queue

Time to scalp a 7900xtx bois

[keen nacelle]

Gl with that one chief lol

[heady turtle]

Just joking

[orchid loom]

9 mins

[keen nacelle]

13

[heady turtle]

Less than a minute 😎😎

Bro it rejected me:(

[orchid loom]

why

[keen nacelle]

L

[orchid loom]

buy a 4080 then

[keen nacelle]

Skill issue tbh

[orchid loom]

amds sucks

im at 6 mins

[heady turtle]

Idk it was like error you gotta go to back of queue

[orchid loom]

oh ill see if itg happens to me

[heady turtle]

I just wanted to see the msrp in euro

Pepohands

[keen nacelle]

Were you going to buy anything?

Ah

[heady turtle]

No

[orchid loom]

2 mins

[keen nacelle]

I'm at 5

[heady turtle]

I wouldn't buy one til i graduate college if i was gonna

[keen nacelle]

I'm just curious to see what stock is like

[orchid loom]

will it let me in

oooo

MOTHER ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

its all gone

is XT good

[gleaming tundra]

Will 4080 price down?

[orchid loom]

ill just buy 4080 now

[keen nacelle]

Yeah lol

I just got through

[heady turtle]

Not as good as xtx

[keen nacelle]

The xtx still loses to 4080, no?

[orchid loom]

yea ik but look its all out of stock

[heady turtle]

Probably eventually but nv will probably just argue "but we have better rt"

[heady turtle]

Nope they trade blows according to GN

[keen nacelle]

Ah ok

And its 1k?

[orchid loom]

UwU

[keen nacelle]

Eh

I'd take a 6900xt over that for cheaper

[gleaming tundra]

Yeah the ray trace

[orchid loom]

theres this

[gleaming tundra]

Still can’t beat the 30 rt

[keen nacelle]

Mhm?

Rtx is a gimmick on 30 series in most cases anyways

[orchid loom]

theres are on newegg

[keen nacelle]

That $700 6900xt best priced

[orchid loom]

a lot of brans used same front plate it seems

[gleaming tundra]

2033

[keen nacelle]

????

Are we speaking the same language?

[gleaming tundra]

sry metro 2033 rt

[keen nacelle]

There's a few games you can see the difference in

But it also tanks your fps. For most people it's not worth it

[gleaming tundra]

😑

[orchid loom]

bruh

theres like no point in buying other brands they all look the same

[heady turtle]

Sí

[heady turtle]

Cooling, price etc

[orchid loom]

That all same prive

All says 999

[fading glacier]

HAHAHAHAHA

some are 1.1k and the taichi is 1.2k

[heady turtle]

7900xt €1050
7900xtx €1165 🤮

[orchid loom]

[fading glacier]

yeah at this point is no better than a 4080

[heady turtle]

Well 4080 is probably like 1400

But still

[gleaming tundra]

https://www.techpowerup.com/302067/amd-allegedly-has-200-000-radeon-rx-7900-series-gpus-for-launch-day?amp

AMD Allegedly Has 200000 Radeon RX 7900 Series GPUs for Launch Day

[orchid loom]

Someone might get fired at BB

They listed 7900XTX as $899
And 7900XT as $999

[gleaming tundra]

🤑

Lol

Link?

[subtle goblet]

scalper got it already

[keen nacelle]

Scalpers won't have fun this time round imo

[livid idol]

They already mass returned the 4080s they tried to scalp

[orchid loom]

It's not for sale

And listing as been removed I think

[heady turtle]

No they did an oopise daisy

https://tenor.com/view/fired-office-michael-scott-the-gif-22021313

Demoting you to mod assist rn xD

[orchid loom]

@heady turtle see pato same price but they all look same

[heady turtle]

Can't hear you mod assist

[heady turtle]

Amd aibs make reference cards and their own cards

[orchid loom]

Hm

[heady turtle]

Not just their own cards

[fading glacier]

but the price window is so small to fit fancy cards

if they go beyond 1200 then the xtx loses all value

[heady turtle]

Well yeah at that stage get a 1200 4080 and have dlss and better rt

[fading glacier]

heck even above 1100 is bad for the card

[heady turtle]

And rtx voice and nv reflex

[fading glacier]

aside from raster, the 4080 is the superior card on every other feature... granted its more expensive but still

[heady turtle]

Eh I'd say up to 1150 it still makes sense kinda

[fading glacier]

1150 are muddy waters for the xtxt

you can get msrp 4080 almost everywhere

[heady turtle]

I guess but still 50 less

[fading glacier]

for the amounts of plus on nvidia side, 50 bucks is nothing at that point

[gleaming tundra]

Y

[fading glacier]

and there it goes the slim hope for a price cut on the 4080

nvidia knows that the 4080 will be the superior product once amd cards dry out, and it will help to position the 4070ti

still pretty funny how all cards online were oos the minute they were released

[vital oriole]

people being impatient

"i must get that new thing asap!!!1!1!1"

[fading glacier]

or scalpers? i mean, scalpers expect to get something from the xtx? have they not learned anything from the 4080?

you cant scalp it beyond 1100

[vital oriole]

nah they never will honestly

greed and stupidity

[keen nacelle]

I found the scalpers who thought they were doing good hilarious

[fading glacier]

im going to take this day as a spiritual one, seems like im going to bend over to nvidia

discord almost crashed?

[keen nacelle]

"I'm supplying cards to people who need them, whether or not I got them at 1/3 of the price I'm selling at is irrelevant"

[vital oriole]

lol

[keen nacelle]

Personally out of the high end cards available atm, id still choose 6900xt/6800xt

Grandma needs the vram since she doesn't have enough dram

[heady turtle]

Cuda

[vital oriole]

grandma ram

[keen nacelle]

Would that just be ddr?

[vital oriole]

lol

[keen nacelle]

Actually it'd be ddr3

Ddr would be great great grandma

[heady turtle]

Tfw 6900xt is cheaper than 6800xt atm

[fading glacier]

yeah im seein that

[keen nacelle]

Ye

[fading glacier]

like 😮

[vital oriole]

ayo

that's wack

[keen nacelle]

6800xt just oos for the most part

[vital oriole]

fair nuff

[keen nacelle]

I doubt it'll come back in stock tbh

[hoary sun]

4090 needs a $400 price hike to $2000.
4080 needs a $100 price hike to $1300.
After amd launch

[gleaming tundra]

Scalpers 😂 they thought 4080 can make money.

[keen nacelle]

I wonder how much new gpus would make if eth was still mineable

Just out of curiosity

[hoary sun]

Because 4090 don't have compatitor now and 4080 also can easily sell for that price

[vital oriole]

nvidia is already making quite a margin with current price

they don't need to raise it

[hoary sun]

I guess it still would be around 120mh since we still using gddr6x.memory

[keen nacelle]

Memory doesn't dictate mining performance, sure it contributes

Bandwidth is a huge factor too

[orchid loom]

Can someone buy me a gpu I got work soon I'll give you my credit card details

[vital oriole]

ye

bandwidth matters as much as vram speed does

[hoary sun]

We didn't change those things much on 40series

[keen nacelle]

...

[hoary sun]

Main improvement is RT cores and stuff

[vital oriole]

are you blind?

bandwidth jumped big time

how else would it get faster

extra cuda does nothing if bandwidth isn't wide enough

or high enough rather

[hoary sun]

I think 4090 maybe could give 130mh maybe but nothing more

4080 would give 120mh maybe

Yeah lol

[orchid loom]

@heady turtle what you think would it be worth to buy a 7900xt if can't find any xtx in stock from this chart it's still up pretty high

Bc this available on Amazon rn

Going from 6600 to 7900XT is 151% performance boost

[fading glacier]

[orchid loom]

Eh

[fading glacier]

[orchid loom]

@fading glacier nice faces

[oak rivet]

that the cheapest 4080?

great 4080 but i think some scalpers are selling em for cheaper

[fading glacier]

No, they r stilltrying to sell them at base price

So same price

But soon they will start to sell at a loss

[keen nacelle]

W

[vital oriole]

W

[oak rivet]

W

[solemn panther]

M

[odd siren]

W

[orchid loom]

Hmmmmmmm

[odd siren]

W

[orchid loom]

Better then nothing and it's in stock yeet

[odd siren]

You gonna do XT?

[solemn panther]

Xtx

[orchid loom]

Well

[orchid loom]

[solemn panther]

Xtx

Wait

It hasn't even been a full week

[orchid loom]

Smh

[livid idol]

2 days innit

Been out for 2 days

[orchid loom]

Wait so it can be 1.5k for a xtx

[solemn panther]

Patience is something most people in this server don't have

[solemn panther]

Wait....for regular stocks

[orchid loom]

Especially ME BRUH

I WANNA FLIPPING PLAY MY VR

[livid idol]

AMD really saw Nvidia price gouging and thought "why can't we do that too?"

[orchid loom]

My 6600 is dragging

Ita gunna blow up soon

[livid idol]

Just get a 6950XT

[orchid loom]

These also this RGB one in stock

[orchid loom]

Why would I get a 6950xt at $700 when 7900xt is $900

It's about 16% better

[livid idol]

7900 XT is only like 10% better than 6950XT

TPU charts aren't that accurate

[orchid loom]

[solemn panther]

Wait for the xtx, Kenzie.

Stubborn

You'll probably regret it

[orchid loom]

[solemn panther]

You will

[livid idol]

And that's including RT results

[odd siren]

Tbf @orchid loom , they're right

[orchid loom]

[odd siren]

XTX is good but XT is....

[orchid loom]

Good too ish

[livid idol]

Good but overpriced

[orchid loom]

Well yea there's this too

2 free games

[livid idol]

Usually crap games

[orchid loom]

[livid idol]

But really 10-12% more fps for 28% more money doesn't make sense

[orchid loom]

Yea hardware box said its -10% cost but -17% performance from 7900XTX

[livid idol]

XTX is a banger compared to NV but XT should have been a 7800

And lower price

[orchid loom]

@livid idol will if I'm gunna continue to wait might as well wait for 4090

[livid idol]

You'll be waiting a lot longer for that to be near msrp again

[odd siren]

Either OCF card is a decent buy rn

Ngl

[orchid loom]

Huh

What's OCF

[livid idol]

OC Formula

Again including RT so 7000 has a leg up on 6000

And 6000 is definitely not at msrp right now

[orchid loom]

🤔

What is at msrp

[livid idol]

Currently? Only the 4080 and new amd cards

[orchid loom]

Bruh

[livid idol]

Oh here we go

[solemn panther]

Money 🤢

[livid idol]

6800XT doing really nice at $500 range

[orchid loom]

I don't see 500 I see $699

[livid idol]

That's literally more than msrp wtf

No it's just out of stock right now

[livid idol]

6800 non xt is $500 flat right now

[orchid loom]

Yea

[livid idol]

But fr this is the deal of the day https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-6900-xt-rx6900xt-ocf-16g/p/N82E16814930057

[orchid loom]

Eh

[orchid loom]

Yea I was looking at that

[livid idol]

Or $100 more for 6950

[orchid loom]

Yea

I was looking

But then again $100 more for 7900xt then

[hasty monolith]

Im just waiting on 6800xt sub 600 on both amazon and newegg.

[hasty monolith]

Dont see any discounts

[livid idol]

It doesn't need any? It's just a good deal right now compared to all available models

[hasty monolith]

Will it run with 850w psu?

[orchid loom]

@livid idol is there any decent cards that's faster then 6600 rn that's cheap

[livid idol]

It would run on a 750W no issues

[orchid loom]

Or should I just keep running 6600

[hasty monolith]

I thought it has a recommended 850w

[livid idol]

That's more of a safety margin for bad units

A good A tier 750W like the revo df would handle it no prob

[keen nacelle]

I've ran an oced 6800xt on an rmx 650

6900xt would likely be fine on a good 650

[livid idol]

Yep I'm only saying 750W to account for overclocking and a high power CPU

[keen nacelle]

yeye

[hasty monolith]

Got 5600 and tier a 850w gf1

[livid idol]

So much headroom there you could do LN2 overclocking

[hasty monolith]

So no worries about transient issues i know i have been repeatimg myself first build

[livid idol]

Transients aren't as much of an issue for AMD

With Nvidia the transients will trip a lot of 850W units even

[hasty monolith]

Im also see no discounts for 6000 with release of 7900xt thought that would happen as well

Oh well my hopes 4 discounted 6900xt r dashed its still ok

[odd siren]

@orchid loom keep trying for XTX

I'm even more convinced it's just the better card

[solemn panther]

^

[livid idol]

Best value high end is the XTX yeah

[solemn panther]

^

[livid idol]

XT is a joke comparatively

[solemn panther]

^

[odd siren]

^

[orchid loom]

Lol

[odd siren]

^

[orchid loom]

i think its funny just like 4080 the 7900XT is all in stock

[odd siren]

Ya cos the XTX is the one everyone wants

[orchid loom]

Lol just like 4090

[orchid loom]

Microcenter is out too

With all people who bought 4090 I'm surprised people need gpus

[timber totem]

You guys think i should just grab the 6950 xt instead of the 3080?

I cannot find ANY 3080s rn and im abt to lose my damn mind

[livid idol]

Yes the 6950XT is better than the 3080 anyway

84 vs 72 fps at 4k on average

Including RT games

[odd siren]

76 if you considered 12gb

[orchid loom]

Yea 6950xt matches 3090 ti
6900xt = 3090
6800xt = 3080

[livid idol]

At 1440p yes it trades blows with the 3090 ti but at 4k there's a bigger gap

[timber totem]

Imma buy it

Thanks yall

[orchid loom]

Oh

[oak rivet]

If 4080 can be had for like 1100$

I think it's the better buy

Dlss 3,better rt and the Nvidia goodies

[random walrus]

Keep in mind the AMD cards do have AV1 support now

The list of Nvidia goodies shrinks

Also DLSS 3 is stupid

But yeah any card is the better buy if it drops in price enough

[livid idol]

And DP 1.4 on a 4090 is stupid

[solemn panther]

DLSS 3.0 is a wonder of software and hardware. the only problem with it is how its only available on 4000 series, including how only a hand full of games support it since its still new

[oak rivet]

It's Nvidia they will make sure every game has it from now on

If dlss 2 game support is anything to go by

[solemn panther]

yeah

[solemn panther]

very stupid tbh

there will be games that can hit the 144hz barrier, it doenst have to be a high end

[oak rivet]

Argument can be made the 4090 is not powerful enough to reach dp 1.4 limitation in every game

[normal hawk]

Thats not how it works

[solemn panther]

were missing 24fps. smh

[solemn panther]

this tbh. didnt correct that statement. not all games have dlss

[livid idol]

4k 240hz will be easy with dlss 3.0 and DP 1.4 will limit that

Need to use DSC

[oak rivet]

But a good chunk of games have some sort of dlss by now

It's more of a necessity then a luxury imo nowadays

[normal hawk]

FSR is easier for devs to add so I think that one will be more commonly implemented, especially since both next gen consoles AND the switch AND Nvidia can use it if they want

[oak rivet]

Fsr is still ehh tbh

[solemn panther]

overwatch 2 can hit above 240hz at 4k ultra. a real waste when we see a 240hz monitor next year

[normal hawk]

Ease of adding a feature + More users being able to take advantage of said feature > Adding a feature that only 2 GPU's can use as of right now

And FSR is great on the Steam Deck at least

[oak rivet]

More options is always nice

Having tried both dlss always came out noticeably better looking

[normal hawk]

It does yea

[random walrus]

Does overwatch even have 4k textures?

[solemn panther]

it does

[orchid loom]

"Ray tracing enters chat hello"

[odd siren]

Hi ray tracing

how are you?

[orchid loom]

bad only get 79 FPS in cyberpunk with 4090 at 4k

[odd siren]

hm return it\

no good we come back in 5 years

[orchid loom]

6090 when

[oak rivet]

79fps is too high with psycho rt at 4k

It's more like 43fps

[orchid loom]

i wonder how 4090 will run unreal engine 5 games

[oak rivet]

Fine?

It has the latest architecture

[orchid loom]

It can't even run 4 rn at 4k high settings

[oak rivet]

My turing gpu is doing nicely in new Fortnite

[oak rivet]

That's 4k being 4k

[orchid loom]

No

[oak rivet]

How well the 4090 does in the upcoming games will be interesting to see

At 4k

[odd siren]

oh the xtx powercolour has that meaty backplate as an option

you can take the red off

has a regular plate underneath

[oak rivet]

Pay extra or is it included?

[odd siren]

included I think

[oak rivet]

I don't understand why take it off

Looks soo good imo

[odd siren]

it's a bit excessive in the wrong case methinks

I think that's a reasonable option to have

[oak rivet]

It's not for your demographic then

[odd siren]

you can keep a neutral colour scheme then

eh why not

I'm considering trying an XTX

[oak rivet]

The sapphire nitro looks more bland maybe that one is

[odd siren]

I like the nitro look a lot actually

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9fvgCNO0RQ

3:05

[odd siren]

yeah the red devil backplate just slaps on

there's a regular one underneath

[odd siren]

see I don't mind it

[oak rivet]

That one looks ugly?

The one udnerneath

[odd siren]

nah

I don't mind that underneath actually

what's nice is they give you the option

[oak rivet]

Nice

[odd siren]

something to appreciate

[oak rivet]

That probably adds to the cost aswell

[odd siren]

yes

it's not a necessary feature

but it'll be relatively inexpensive to add as it just pops on

whether or not it's secure remains to be seen

[oak rivet]

Well it stays in your case

[odd siren]

yes but if you wanted it on there with a vertical mount

it might just fall off

guarantee someone will want it on with that orientation

so I wonder how they did it

@fading glacier

[oak rivet]

Is it smaller then 4090?

[odd siren]

uhhh

It looks smaller than some

but bigger than FE I think

[orchid loom]

@odd siren if you want XTX just buy a scalped one

[odd siren]

why scalped

[orchid loom]

Here you go only 2k

[oak rivet]

I wonder if I can somehow fit it

[odd siren]

I can literally preorder a reference model

like right now

[orchid loom]

[odd siren]

no scalp

you want the link?

[orchid loom]

Come one give into scalpers

[fossil talon]

XTX literally 2.5 slot for most models, tiny af compared to 4090

[odd siren]

damn that's nice

[fossil talon]

damn

[odd siren]

imagine not thinking about 1440p fps again for the next 6 years

[fossil talon]

pre-released drivers as well

[oak rivet]

1080p ?

[odd siren]

1080p would be like

[fossil talon]

1080p 500fps XD

[odd siren]

until death

[fossil talon]

1080p will turn into 720p and lose its HD status

[odd siren]

there's so few games not cpu bound at 1080p it's totally pointless

[oak rivet]

They still seem to be doing better at 1080p even when cpu bound

[orchid loom]

Imagine gaming at 1080p

[odd siren]

probably

Radeon does like lower rres

[orchid loom]

Disgusting

[odd siren]

wow kenzie

speaking for yourself

le 6600 owner

[orchid loom]

Game on 4k or die

[oak rivet]

[orchid loom]

With my 1440p monitor

[odd siren]

sad life

[oak rivet]

I am doing 1080p with a 6650xt tier gpu

[orchid loom]

Soon gunna be 4k monitor

[oak rivet]

Gotta love the fps

[oak rivet]

@odd siren you think the red devil 7900xtx will fit here?

[odd siren]

in you focus 2? maybe

I don't know the dimensions yet

[orchid loom]

That don't look like a focus 2

Bc I have one

Focus 2

They might have focus G which I think is smaller

@oak rivet also WHAT THE HELL

WHAT IS THIS DOING

Omg

It's gunna hit the FANS

[odd siren]

LOL

MAYDAY

[oak rivet]

https://www.1stplayer.com/productdetails/id/146.html

it was this one

[orchid loom]

Boot corrupted

System malfunction

[oak rivet]

pretty cheap for how much airflow it has

[orchid loom]

https://tenor.com/view/red-alert-condition-red-red-gif-16473078

[orchid loom]

Bozo @odd siren ordered a XT smh sadly he saw it and cancled

[odd siren]

yup

missed the XTX I saw earlier and thought I saw another but that was XT

LOL

[fading glacier]

LOL

the xtx are scalped

these guys just dont understand

[odd siren]

nah I was seeing a genuine XTX earlier for 1200

it's gonna cost more cos Australia

pretty much the running price here at retail

[orchid loom]

[odd siren]

wth
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-tuf-oc/39.html

[odd siren]

I managed to get one

[odd siren]

I'm curious how the AIB cards seem to be better

I'm guessing binning? the vrm's seem to be the same

same but different input filtering

[orchid loom]

[ripe moon]

Anyone know... can I use a GTX970 to run (3) 2k monitors for an office enviornment (not for gaming)?

[heady turtle]

Yep as long as it has a total of 3 ports that are either display port or hdmi

So it will depend on the 970 model

[fringe scroll]

I've relized

I dont need more than a rx6700

[lone pond]

so i have a amd radeon hd 6990 from a while how much is it even being sold for these days lol?

[fringe scroll]

Wahhh lol

For the games i play at 1440 it will be fine

And its only 300atm

[keen nacelle]

Aside from "it isn't" maybe $20

[fringe scroll]

💀

[lone pond]

top 10 deals

[keen nacelle]

Probably less

[lone pond]

is it worth selling a rtx 3060 ti for 400 dollars or 350?

[fringe scroll]

You're not getting 400

I can tell u that rn

[keen nacelle]

You likely wouldn't even get 350 from it if you're in the US

[lone pond]

then how much do i sell my 3060ti for?

[fringe scroll]

I can buy one new for that lol

[fringe scroll]

250? 300

Depends

Its not worth a ton used

I mean people in this server got 3090s for 450 so

It all depends

[lone pond]

well if its barely used is that a problem like by barely i mean stress tested / tested in games

[lone pond]

my cousin has one to (he got it for 350 💀 )

[ripe moon]

Thanks PATO

[fringe scroll]

Dammmm

[lone pond]

btw should i hunt for a 3080 ti