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surprisingly it was using more gpu at 61% over the gpu which was in the 30's
You accidently said GPU twice, what one is CPU?
Also, what is max single core of the CPU? Games only have one render thread, so highest single threaded utilization is what's most important most of the time.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/884156875719987233/1023757021880787054/IMG_8520.jpg?format=png is $180 CAD a fair price for this 1660s
That's like $150 right?
Ya
Not bad.
Is the rtx 40 series going to be worth it?
it is
if you have the money for the 4080 or something
lower end cards will come later, probably late next year
I've been seeing mixed about it. I wanted to have the best I could get. I got a 3080 because the higher up ones were way more money for a minimal performance increase. I have the money, if it's worth it I'll upgrade. I'm seeing things about the 40 series being a lot more money for not that much performance though
I'm kind of a tech idiot but something about the dlss was supposedly the only thing the new ones coming out have on the old ones
Basically the new ones coming out weren't a huge jump in technology and performance like the 30 series was too the 20 series, just slightly better with updated dlss
personally I would wait until we see reviews from independent sources, not rely just on Nvidia's benchmarks
Even if this is the case and it's a money grab/product just to appease consumers I'm wondering if they're better enough to be worth it
This is why I would wait, might be hype or might be worth it but only time and trial will tell
That's what I'm thinking. Thanks
no prob, just my take on it tho, others might have other opinions
I was dreaming about getting one of the new ones and upgrading to ddr5, now I'm not so sure
I might snag a 3080 if i get a chance, but i went 12700K w/ DDR4 bc i heard of too many issues w/ DDR5 in the beginning, might be getting better now
pricing is another reason i stuck to DDR4, I already had 32GB of it so
3080 12gb is the way to go tbh
the eva graghic card is pretty good
take this if you guys need old or discontinued items from here
scam???
nope
imm sus
Bit.ly links are sus since they can lead literally anywhere, but that one leads to https://computingworlds.com/ which appears to be a legitimate business out of Florida but has no reviews anywhere I can find
ComputingWorlds.com - Best online store for Memory, Processor, HDD, SSD, Network Components, Motherboard, Power Supply, Graphic Card and all other Computer Peripherals.
def need to grab a new PSU too lol using a Corsair 650W atm
yeah
that's okay, the Corsair can go in my media PC that's using a MicroCenter brand atm
Depending on the model could get away with a 6800xt
RM650x i believe
I've ran a 6800xt on the same psu without issue
EVGA shill here
i was mistaken, RM650 (no x)
Still great psu
Non X is still good A tier
i just know i was told to try for X PSUs, but none were in stock when i bought
That's a terrible rule of thumb lol
Idk who told you that
Rm and rmx are just as good as eachother
a guy who used to work w/ me
Not entirely accurate but they're the same tier because there's nothing above A lol
Rmx is bot better
We need S tier
A gold maybe? ๐ like my 850g6 ๐
is a tier above A
change my mind
Any other sites to look for graphics card other than Newegg ,Amazon ? Looking for specific cards and Amazon doesnโt have them, not getting rando Chinese seller card off Newegg or rolling the dice on Ebay any other reputable dealers to look at?
If you have a micro center nearby I'd look there
US
In Alaska so not many physical stores around so mostly online ordering and even then hard to get things that will ship here.
Have a look on pc part picker for gpu's, gives you the best prices too
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/
Choose A Video Card
Only for US tho, typically off for other places
Oh cool. I was in Alaska fishing for Sockeye until a couple months ago.
Aye still better than hopelessly trying to use amazons low to high filter tho 
You'd have a better time learning how to walk across the ocean and get all the way to China than to deal with the Amazon search engine
Lmao true but some of us have very limited options and unfortunately Amazon is one of the best
what's everyone's exp/opinion with Gigabyte GPUs/mobos? are they okay, or do people have a load of issues with them? I ask bc a friend has had nothing but issues but I am not hearing that many others have
Have to preface this

Not every product in any brand stack is equally good, some are tire fires
But as far as most of gigabyte's gpu/mobo stuff goes these days, it's pretty decent
i am asking him what model it was, i know it was an AMD chipset and it was a while back (3yrs maybe)
As long as we aren't talking super super low end, or the unlikely event of random capacitors falling off(
), they're pretty decent
An older amd mobo?
Perhaps, b450 ds3h?
Aorus elite?
sounds likely, he does not remember exactly as they wound up going MSI
You'll probably have a bit less teething with MSI software and firmware tbh
But Gigglebit is still ok, it's not outright or overall bad
i had issue w/ an MSI mobo so i steer clear now myself
random BSODs with a bad RAM socket are too
Ya a bad ram socket is unfortunate
Not specific to a brand tho
But I get the feeling
my issue comes from RMAing the board, being told it's fixed and yet the issue persisted, yet the same CPU, PSU, and RAM worked fine in a diff MSI board
hell, same RAM in this ASUS z690 D-4 board w/ 12700K, but MSI swore it's the ram at fault
anyways, just curious as i keep seeing sales for Gigabyte stuff and was wondering
I've had that happen before
My Xbox one X died of a bad sata cable
I kept sending it in and they kept swapping the drive not the cable
Kept having issues until recently I just hacksawed the literal cable out
Put my own in
Now my xbox is flawless
Some people are just terrible tech helpers
Hello
What is pcie x16 on mobos
will performace go down if it runs at x8
I was looking at a z790 mobo
here is it all so can only 1 think run at pcie 5.0
depends on the gpu
Say like newer gpu
same applies ๐, not about the gen, but how much a certain sku make use of the bus
only the 3090 use almost the entire bus, things like 3060 or so can go ok on the x8 as example
about the 40 series we dont know yet
I got one that cost 10k
Most GPUs can run fine in gen 4x8, I think the newer gen 5x16 is more important if you have lots of pci devices that share the lanes?
Indeed, and 40 series isn't even pcie5. 
wait actually?
nah, nvidia is trolling
They know more than you. Gen 4 is plenty of bandwidth, especially if a card doesn't use x8 or deffo x4 like certain amd cards.
true im just salty lol, i want the bigger numbers go ooggga vboboga
How do I set windows to use my Radeon HD 7850 for my VTubing program, and not my GTX 1070 OR my HD 4600 iGPU?
I know how to switch between my iGPU and GTX 1070, but I want it to use my Radeon HD 7850.
Can rx 6500 xt be run on pci 3x16
Yes, but it'll suffer 20%+ performance lost compared to pcie 4
You'd be better off with a used 16 series, higher 10 series or some 500 series amd cards
doesn't the 6500XT use PCIe4x4
I think theyโre raising the prices to encourage the flood for 3000 series
no, just that one
must be a typo
still weird that the aib sell theirs at the same msrp
wat kind of contraption is this
xD
beautiful, this one si the one for me, just a couple more days
a fire hazard
Wait, 40 series is out?!
Wasn't it supposed to launch October 12th?!
Will I need a ATX 3.0 PSU for my 4090 or can I use it on my ATX 2.0 PSU for like a week or so until I get a ATX 3.0 PSU?
Negg is showing that the 40-series is "coming soon" and "out of stock" at the same time lol
depending on the PSU you might be able to get away with the adapter until your ATX3.0 PSU arrives, but with all I have been reading/watching I would not risk it unless absolutely necessary
Oct 20th is 13th gen sales embargo could be what you thought of. Don't need atx3, but I also wouldn't outright suggest possibly sketch/ghetto adapters. 24+ wires (3x8, etc) into a single 12pin just feels funky. 
Got it.
I think I will buy a ATX 3.0 psu just incase then since the GPU will be able to communicate with the PSU.
Oh nice. Can't wait to get my hands on that 24 core monster.
If atx3, also make sure it has pcie5 aka 12vhpwr connector because getting to use a single cable would be a decent perk to me (gpu).
Agreed.
Which models for the 4090 at coming out at launch again?
I heard the Strix variant is using a different plug compared to the FE.
Like 16+4 compared to 22+2 or something like that a while back.
not a fire hazard when the adapter comes from nvidia
So it's not like Intel's "k" designation?
nah
Strixt tax.
ha
Performance difference would you expect if on a waterblock?
Maybe around 10% max, idk. Depends mostly on clocks. Strix seems to have same 12pin connector. 600w would be nuts on any card. Efficiency put the window. As for FE:
So performance will be the same after they're on a waterblock?
Or better put extremely similar?
At the very least water block should be less clock drop at load, mostly from peak temp being way lower. Stock boost is around 3ghz btw. 
Oh wait, the 4090 fe can't use 600 watts?
Hot diggiy damn.
I heard 2.5-2.6ghz.
Not 3.
Well I am not complaining.
Imagine, we're gonna look back on this 10 years from now and there is a GPU that can boost up to 10ghz.
Ah my bad. Nvidia saying how they OC'D some to 3ghz. Stock boost is around 2.5ghz. No idea what sort of limits there are. Seems quite a bit more headroom vs 10/20 series. My 1080 at stock boosts to 2ghz, 50+ over what it should. 
Oh yeah, I forgot about that article I read this morning.
They said that they had OCed them to 3ghz without exotic cooling.
On the FE cards at that.
Hmmmmm.
wth man, this is not the connector, those are the vrm phases
I know, I just realized that couple minutes ago.
๐
"Wth man, I already enlightened em". 
anyways.
still 2 grand for a 4090 is outrageous
My brain is literally in this state right now
as I try to figure out Strix or FE.
why? we had this chat like a 100 times
not smart, its the obvious
?
you want to collect? well collect fe cards
wouldnt strix have better clock and cooling?
It's like that feeling where you know what you should do, but that one part of you keeps saying do the other thing.
yeah but he want toi be a "collector" of sorts... of flagship cards
if you want to be a real collector just get the fe models
Flagship GPUs, doesn't need to be FE in my books.
supposed, we dont know it yet
It's collecting the chip that's important to me.
450w on an FE cooler feels like a no from me, but with 40 series pricing I'll probably go 12GB 3080 or maybe 3080 ti. Although, dropping PL or doing UV is an extra ez choice on 40 series. Stock efficiency is a bit junk.
nah fam gotta get the ROG
nel
not that overengineered as before
most cards will be 22+2
strix is 24+2
its like.... meh
no strix tax for me, thank you
heck even the founder is 22+2
the tax is Strixt, man!
i dont have that much money to waste
Are the suprims gonna be better then FE this gen as well?
dunno
Better be, suprim is 1 of the top models. Fan on top of FE bugs me a anyways.
G0d, this is killing me.
dunno why
Just like how I am wondering why I am not VIP yet....
It's my thirst for tech switch flipping on again....
Like, I get a adrenaline rush when I see good PC tech.
Or really any new advancement in tech.
yeah but ur wallet gets depressed
he seems like he doesnt care for money
Biggest advancements were in the past tbh, like when 1080p 60+ fps was easily possible in most games. Pentium 4 to E8400 was a big upgrade, for example. 3770 also.
yup
True.
The sad part is that the future is more then likely gonna become like Cyberpunk 2077 envisioned it by some point.
why is sad?
There are some good books on that, I guess it really comes down to the individual.
EVGA is going to lose big time next year
Going away from GPUs!? Wtf buys anything else from them lol
I like the concept of being able to download info into you, tech prosthetics sorta, and so on but the idea of AR where people are now paying for subscriptions to make themselves look good (through contacts) but walking around fat and in sweatpants in reality scares me.
I am concerned for the future gen of my family and friends.
And it's gonna start probably before I am 60-70 with the way AR development is coming along.
live today, dont think on that kind of distant future
Yeahh I suppose.
ill be dead in 50 years, so w/e
Ooof.
On the flipside of your talk. I say some dead relatives are lucky to missed out on some crap these days, tiktok, twitter, tech dependency on a grand scale.
Agreed.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy TV but I hate the shiz that goes on Tiktok, twitter, insta, etc.
just worry about your work, the money for your family and the education of your children
and your retirement
Literally like 80% of the stuff just makes you more stupid.
easy
I prefer good shows to watch on occassion with a good story and so on behind it.
๐ค all goes well I can retire by the time I'm 36-40.
at least thats me, worry for my family, mi kids, and my retirement
We're in the same boat then.
my pc is my hobby so i dont take it that seriously or fanatically as you
Heard of The Expanse on Prime Video? Decent series. Started on on SciFi for obvious reasons.
Lmao, I suppose. I take my Tech hobby a little bit to a psychotic level (on occassion I suppose).
and ma wife understand that, my pc is my hobby but not my priority, so its ok ๐
on ocassion? you literally ask the same questions everyday.... news about 13900k? leaks on 13900k? best cooler blocks? and so on
My priorities are family, work, exercise, then every thing else is just a want not a need.
Not really, tbf I only do it during my short breaks or after work.
But anyways yea I suppose I do have a bit of a tech-want-to-know issue.
A very small issue.
more like a tech-too-lazy-to-look-on-google
you can just look at videocardz and there you have the info everyday
Got it.
But also it's more fun to be able to socialize to be fair.
But you're right. I will look at videocardz.
yeah, chill man, i mean, on my case i look at videocardz every morning with my coffee, if there is no valuable info that day well, its ok
if it is, then you have something worthwhile to start a chat with the bois ๐
True, true.
By the way, do you think 1200-1300 watt psu can handle the potential spikes on the 4090?
Aight. Guess I will buy the GPU then wait a few days to find out about the PSUs.
starting with the fact that we dont know how the 40 series handle transients
or if they have transients at all
no, im a warzone guy
waiting for mw2 now
hopefully i will have my 4090 by the time mw2 hits
ill try to get a suprim but that will depend on price
if not ill settle on a x trio

$2k on a gpu is a bit bonkers. btw, mw-ii*, mw2 was the good old days. I will say that open Beta was pretty fun. Nice to have a change from a big lootfest as most BR is. Domination mode was also fun. These 2 pics sort of exhibit how BR-type stuff isn't what I'm best at. 
yeah 2k on the strix is outrageous, but seems like the rest of the models on newegg at least ar at 1599
if the suprim is even 100 more, then its a buy, but more than 100usd over the msrp is a no
Oh yeah they're not all $2K
ok, can i have the link of that plz, its for a homework :#
Just 11 hrs from Toms, but sure https://www.tomshardware.com/news/geforce-rtx-4090-arrives-at-best-buy-site-at-msrp
well its the lc version of the suprim
yeah most of the time i forgto tomhardware
its either videocardz or youtube lately
ok. why point out what I underlined, lol. I was highlighting not being $2K as Apex mentioned something about.
wait for it
bam!
could be a placeholder
but its a strix so..... could be real
i mean it would not surprise me to see a strix at 2 grands
bruh I'm not refuting the $2K strix price, haha. Check out the msi gaming trio that's FE msrp. 
yeah thats why that one is my second option
if the suprim is way higher

but no placeholder price on egg... yet
price will be interesting indeed. Seems mighty similar overall to the Trio. Gonna be fun seeing reviews and mainly overclocking results.
2520 nice
i expect something like a hundred more
no more than that and its ok for my tastes
the LC one is tempting me, but i dont trust the pump on aios enough to trsut a card that will be on my rig for the next 6+ years
ill stick with traditional air
well egg is working on the 4090 listings
the strix no longer has a price tag and have a lot more pictures now
too bad that the FE cards are best buy exclusive cards and only on-site buying ๐ฆ
FE is also no longer cheaper than certain other models, which is awesome for some people. Wonder how this'll be w/ the future SKUz
ofc but could be a nice piece of collection
like owning an fe card
but oh well
looking at techpower up and the transient response isnt that bad if true
gamer jesus will test that fo sure
20+3 phases do wonders
and that pid controller
40 series is a definite improvement in various ways indeed. that side by side is from Nvidia. I also saw this:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-details-geforce-rtx-4090-fe-pcb-23-phases-and-clean-power
yup, the transient thing is under control, or so they say
now an 850w can truly handle a 4090 and a power hungry cpu at the same time without tripping
or so they say
Wouldn't catch me w/ that combo.
(obviously I'm not gonna spend near-4figures on a GPU anyways.) 
i will cause it will be like my last good pc
my magnus opus
the next pc will be for my kids, and then ill start travelling
so, will be like justified ๐
besides the gap between the 4080 16g and the 4090 is way too big to consider a 4080 as a valuable choice long term
the more you spend, the more you save
Bit weird that they were saying 3090Ti had bad transients despite 3090Ti PCB being special with lower transients then the rest of ampere
3090 and lower had bad transients tho
Im still fairly concerned that these expensive GPUs arent even using the 24Gbps GDDR6X (best binned) as lot of leaks points to 21Gbps (mid bin)
Shows more out of whack prices and even further spec scaling whackyness if 4090Ti uses 24Gbps 6X
ok these is new.... really? they can do that?
Here are the 6X dies:
https://www.micron.com/products/ultra-bandwidth-solutions/gddr6x/part-catalog
21Gbps is 1313MHz and 24Gbps is 1500MHz. All leaks Ive seen so far are using 21Gbps binning. 4090Ti could do whichever it wants and if it does 24Gbps then there will be a further spec disparity between SKUs.
It's less wack and somewhat expected 4090 ti is the only 1 w/ 24Gbps for now. As for transients, I'll say 3080 specifically was pretty decent. For those wondering, these are from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnRyyCsuHFQ
ok this is concerning indeed
It is rather concerning/whack that the "4090" doesnt have 24Gbps binning IMO. Given the price of all cards as well, makes it concerning that all cards dont have 24Gbps binning.
oh well. Wonder how high we can OC the 21Gb stuff too.
it might just not make much of a difference at all in gaming
so they just didnt bother with the added expense
quadros will have 24gbps, dw lol
Iโm looking for a budget gpu(like 200$ around), the games I play are valorant, rocket league, Minecraft, and apex legends. Anybody have any recommendations, and should I buy it after market.
I'd look for a used 6600/2060/1080/1070/1660(super, non super, or ti), 580 8gb, 5600xt
1060 6gb
I mean maybe, but that isnt the point. Main takeaway is the fact that SKU scaling is prolly more whack then assumed. Also given the price I have my doubts that they couldnt afford 24Gbps binning, while Ada is expensive Nvidia is still making huge bank with their current prices. Kinda just an extra slap in the face for the consumer basically. With all that said, who knows if 21Gbps binning has changed with better OC potential.
i mean once again, if it doesnt make enough of a difference, theres no reason to waste money putting it on there
but also i dont know if it would make a difference or not
nvidia seems to think it doesnt
384 bus with 21Gbps is close-ish to 320 bus with 24Gbps in terms of bandwidth
384-21 is inbetween 352-24 and 320-24 more or less. Which are step down variants we've seen before for XX80Ti. Assuming 4090Ti is 24Gbps then spec/perf scaling would put 4090 closer to XX80Ti area (which I really want to be proven wrong for sake of sanity of this gen).
Just to show what would happen if 4090Ti was 24Gbps and everything else was 21Gbps. For anyone else seeing this, plz know that colored data is an educated guess so take it with a moderate grain of salt.
Put 1325 for 4090 as some rumored AIB data has shown 21.2Gbps memory
i guess i just find it hard to care about how the SKUs line up
like i get it being pretty slimy from a marketing standpoint
but nobody here buys into marketing in the slightest
ion give a damn what they call it, how does it perform, and whats the price
extra slap in the face? the whole damn card is a slap in the face
320-24 is 4080 territory... not good
and yes, all the aibs show 21 gbps binned chips ๐ฆ sad indeed

is 4090ti confirmed?
ok looks just to be rumored
I mean, 4090 is a really cut down AD102. It's been a very long time if not never been a time where Nvidia didnt release a full die to at least prosumers (Titan). Doubt Nvidia is bringing back the Titan so 4090Ti is assumed to happen
youtube is getting full of conspiracies lately
the new one spaks about no 4070 and below cards while the 30 series is on
lawl, seems possible indeed ๐ now that the lineup is 4090 - 4080 - 3080 - 3070 and so on
its like the youtubers promoting conspiracies and sensationalism multiplied since the nvdia keynote
so many clickbait on my account lately
how much psu do u need for the 4090ti? 1000watts?
also probably need to upgrade the cooling unit as well
4090ti isn't a thing
4090 is the highest atm
Depending on the psu and your cpu, and case
A good 850w psu would do fine if you have like a 150w cpu
You don't have to upgrade your cpu cooler if it's good enough, the gpus comes with their own cooling solution so you won't have to worry
this is actually something ive been tossing around in my own mind
interesting that other people feel the same way
i mean, it would make sense with the boatload of 30 series cards floating around
maybe they think it just wouldnt be profitable to sell low end cards, or maybe they still got a ton of ampere dies to sell, who knows
maybe we will have only 4090s and 4080s for some time, the lower skus will be available when the old 30 cards start to dwindle
no need for 4070s or lower skus because those will devaluate even more the 30 series, maybe they have the chips already but no need to produce them for now
still a conspiracy xD
It's not a conspiracy if that's exactly what Jensen said on record
lower skus will come next year, imma bet
Oh yeah we're not seeing a "4070" until next year easy
7700 XT though, AMD is still on track for the standard release schedule
that's good
It'll be interesting if AMD can flip the script and have a 7700 XT outperform that "3080" 12gb
But even if it gets close that's a win really
got the gpu in the pc yesterday
lol
was not the one whoever linked me but it was from the same dude
so whatever close enough
at least its genuine
might test it and whatnot lol
Odd looking card
and 2 pcie connectors
a770 after all, should perform as good as a 3070
or so they say
but yeah the fan configuration is quite... strange
With black Friday being 1 month away from rpl launch I'm debating waiting for it
I wonder if the core and or vram is mainly on the right side
It's also a three slot card for no reason
strix.... overengineered to the max... remember the coolers on the 3060ti? well same here
No I mean that there's space for a third fan but they just made it solid
do you think on bf the prices on 13th gen will go down? rpl can be prepurchased already btw ๐
Yeah I do
oh, a three fan
And it can be bought but it's pre order
yup
the a770?
ah
we ended up upgrading our pcs by the end of the year anyway
xD
i was planning september since march and now we are approaching november
hahaha
december is a hot month here at ecuador
not goin to buy december, its either nov or january
3060 ti, look at the 3050 strix
ooofff true
on december many things can go missing at customs on my country.... so... no
in fact late november is already becoming dangerous ๐
Laptop prices are wild these days
jump on a sale or wait another year. If you need more than a 3050, I'd just wait.
I have this video card, it will be compatible and in performance for this new processor, and the new DDR5 motherboard. I will not have any problem...ASUS KO GeForce RTX 3060 Ti V2 OC Edition 8GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 x16 Video Card KO-RTX3060TI-O8G-V2-GAMING (LHR)
it will work just fine
i dont see the problem there
as long as the mobo have a pcie slot then it will work e_E
wait for the new if it will be compatible for the new processor and mother board...ddr-5.ok t/y
AMD Ryzen 7 7700X - 8-Core 4.5 GHz - Socket AM5 - 105W Desktop Processor (100-100000591WOF)
there is no "compatibility" issues with a gpu card, the only compatibility thing to have is a pcie x16 slot
as long as you have a pcie x16 slot then the card will work
I have not seen the new motherboards bring pcie x16 slot.?
wut?
all the mobos these days have at least one pcie x16 slot
ALL
note the capital size letters
even the dirty cheap ones have at least 1 pcie x16 slot
both amd and intel have pcie lanes exclusively for the primary pcie x16 slot (usually the one near the cpu)
ok,t/y
They recommend me to buy the new one or I go for ddr4, like a b550 mobo, and amd cpu AMD Ryzen 7 5700X - Ryzen 7 5000 Series 8-Core Socket AM4
which cpu do you have?
I have not bought, I only have the video card. KO-RTX3060TI-O8G-V2-GAMING (LHR)
so you have nothing but the gpu?
yes
and how much are you willing to spend on a new system?
I just want to know the compatibility and performance of my video card if I go for the new, or better with ddr4.
you can pair it with 5600+b550 or a 12400f+b660 combos just fine on ddr4
both are similarly priced
and its an inexpensive combination
you dont need 8 cores for gaming like the 5700 or the 12700
and some 650w psu (at least b tier or better)
Ok, I'll keep that in mind, thanks.
Looks like dust build up
It's more obvious dust when you aim between the blades. Also not surprised for a 3+ yr old gpu. (I forget exactly when 2070 came out)
Meant to add this
I think it was 2018, but could still be 2 years old technichally if bought just before 30 series launch
Like aim the compressed air?
No I just meant aim your eyes there, lol. Remember to hold the blades when using compressed air so they don't spin 9000rpm and ruin the bearings.
Ohhh shoot that's a thing?
I always shoot compressed air making it spin for all my fans.
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So I just bought an EVGA 3070 XC3 a couple months ago. Running it with a ryzen 7 5800X, 64GB ramโฆwas debating on the idea of overclocking the card, but no clue where I should start or if that 3070 has a โsweet spotโ OC setting(s)?
I am debating of getting Intel Arc A770, not sure it'll be a very huge upgrade from a RX 6600.
Oh, I thought it was a RTX 3070 equivalent.
what about the 16GB vram A770?
afaik same core count so same answer
mkay.
And well, wait for reviews for now, it's supposed to compete with 3060 as far as we know right now
Intel aint playing big dumb like Nvidia
no, Intel is playing the consumer :(
Nvidia conditioning people to think higher vram = higher performance by putting extra cores on higher vram GPUs
Intel comes in and just slaps extra vram and no extra cores on a gpu
Hm, has AMD ever done that actually?
I don't think so
Better that way tbf, if one markets VRAM as the only change then VRAM should be the only change
but nvidia is conditioning consumers to think bigger number vram = more better
Intel going to make a quick buck off people
kinda sad
I know they did dumb Polaris stuff, RX560 but marketed as a RX570 or smth
anyways I'm just sad
a lot more people we have to convince higher vram number doesn't mean better
I mean we always have had to do that, dont think Nvidia is making a huge dent to that issue
oh no I'm saying Intel is going to make a dent in the issue
At least with nvidia people can understand 3060ti > 3060 and look past 12gb vs 8gb
but dunno how to tell people a770 16gb = a770 8gb
just sad times
both companies doing wacky stuff
there was some guy in pcmr tryna grab a 2060 12gb instead of the og 2060 because bigger number earlier today, it's just sad
Idk, when Nvidia tries to do the VRAM mixing I tend to see people say "Oh, I perf would be the same between the two and one should just choose based on whether you need more VRAM for 4k/prof work"
am just sad
I like to ask people what vram is for and they often can't tell me lol
Eh, I think a very small amt of people are going to get duped by that. Those that will are prolly being duped elsewhere too, like buying 128gb RAM cuz more=better.
It's for storing my Skyrim cheese wheels
lol
Muh cheese scrolls
true
16k texture cheese wheels
Dream come true
- forks up 3K *
Gonna need much more then that to buy 69 H100s
We can get Nvidia man to smuggle some out for us

FE afaik
It's gorgeous
Shame I didn't go the T30's route for more phanteks but also the ano black accents are gorgeous
Cool spot for fittings
Is this GPU any good the reviews I watched seemed very positive so I might end up getting it
Yes but depends what price it is
449 usd as on Amazon
Eh
Would get this instead
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4RrRsY/xfx-radeon-rx-6750-xt-12-gb-speedster-qick-319-core-video-card-rx-675xyjfdp
@grave burrow actually if you haven't bought anything yet this is a very nice deal (if you will buy something from newegg for 160 soonish)
#tech-deals message
I have the 6750xt version. Runs great. Stays cool
@odd siren I'm on board with recommending them now. 
https://www.techspot.com/news/96164-nvidia-clarifies-power-supply-requirements-rtx-40-series.html
Is that the statement where they were talking about how you shouldn't worry about it catching fire because they expect manufacturers to fix it before production runs that already happened?
And the "early" version adapters given to reviewers were low quality too, and that's totally been fixed also
Because we totally trust nvidia to not lie and have our best interests right?
In other news
Nvidia makes a card that'll take an entire circuit in your house to power
in fact thats the wise thing to do
i have an isolated circuit just for the pc rn
in preparation
It doubles as a heater in the winter
Smugs in 240v
They stated the early version were prototypes and that the issues have been fixed. If it true or not.. idk.
I thought about this, but I've decided that I'm going to skip 40 series. As much as I really want the next best thing.. I'd rather start focusing my funds on making furniture.
Time will tell
Tell will time.


I gotta figure out what to do with a 580 8gb and 5700xt now that the mining is dying. F
is dying? is dead bro
ye
been dead for half a month already
i can attest to that
i have a stock dell optiplex 9020 now i was planning on updating it for gaming but i dont want to update the psu i saw that a sata to 6 or 8 pin would work but would you need a psu update with that and would i be able to upgrade the ram i was planning on getting a gtx 1650 super for it but im not 100% sure about updating the psu or just getting the sata to 6 pin
imo sell before price drop more
How much would a 580 even be worth now?
more than its worth sitting on your shelf
check ebay for recently sold cards
then if selling on fb market or r/hws take a bit off
167 140 ish i think
true, you dont need to ask "how much it sells" jus look at your local used market (fb market/ebay/hw) and make a reasonable post
price varies from market to market
but will definitely worth more than sitting in your shelf
You know those metal pieces you remove from the back of your PC when inserting a new GPU? Mine tend to make noise, is there a way to fix that?
7700xt or 7800xt or should i stick with the 6800xt
Probably stick with the 6800xt
Remove em. 
i dont have any yet just the 6800xt was my original decision before finding out about the 7000s series
No, their bad. "should I stick with the 6800Xt", haha. Well 7000 series at worst should arrive before 40 series, so not exactly a long wait.
timings kinda weird for me
but
ill try to get my hands on one
ok mb
i was being dumb
there is no 7000 series yet
Ik
we dont know price nor availablity and even less how may skus will be released at launch
How may skus?
we dont know if amd will only launch the high end, or any mid range card at launch
must be 7900 and probably 7800, highly doubt on any mid range till q1, but we will see
Ok
so dont expect something below 800, well thats my guess, could be wrong
still the reveal will be on november
what's the real spec diff between the MSI RX 6800 XT Gaming X Trio and the RX 6800 XT Gaming Z Trio? like, i see a lil bit of core clock and boost clock diff, but nothing that really screams out why the X is $400 more
400 more is outrageous
but yes the X version is basically the oc version
a lil more clock
seriously, one was $630, the other $1071 lol
Well the gaming x isn't made anymore
Not sure, but for mine I did +1000 mem and +170 core.
What are the benefits of using a capture card vs just using your GPU for recording?
None tbh
Capture card is less load on gpu for one thing. How much, idk because I don't use one.

Right, use a capture card mainly for gaming on console & pc for streaming
Capture cards are only worth for capturing consoles
Nope recording and streaming is same encoder wise
Nope, I mean streaming w/ pc for the console game*. Do people bother w/ a console + capture card if not streaming.
-- edit: yea, my phrasing wasn't best.
I misread it
Guys am I supposed to peal the sticker on my graphics card
Uhh not like a sticker sticker but there's more than likely a protective plastic sticker like layer which you should yes
anyone know if the Gigabyte OC 6650 XT is a good model?
shi ion know but i got a asus oc 6700xt and its goated
6650xt might not be worth it right now tho
depends what price you find one at
There are several games where a dual pc set up is worth it regardless of nvenc.
6650xt as long as it isn't mech 2x is fine
Warzone can get a 20+ fps boost for example if you stream it on a dual pc setup instead of one pc using nvenc
Just depends on price @valid citrus
And in Warzone it's justified to want those 20fps ๐ฌ
Also justifies to not play that. 
everyone: discussing about monster gpu
me with an intel UHD 610 intergrated gpu: 
Technically that's on the motherboard, not the cpu
ebay probably
Anyone know if you can use a lian li strimmer on a rx 6900 xt?
Also which would you go with radion toxic rx 6900 xt new or gigabyte extreme waterforce 3080 12gb open box? Can't find 3080 12gb or 3090 for the waterforce new anywhere it seems
Strimmer is 24 pin cable
It's not for gpu
But for mobo
Oh wait there's a gpu one too
Then yeah, it'll work
If you're already going to do a custom loop you can go for the waterforce. The AIO one is crap.
The 6900 XT would be my choice in most cases.
There's really not not since rtx 20/gtx 16 encoder
Nvenc does not catch everything. That's just the broadcast.
There are a lot of streamers who have a bunch of different things they run that take up cpu usage that could be on another pc.
yeah but that falls on nit picking if anything
you can run a more powerful cpu instead of a second pc
one day i saw a wow streamer who had a second pc for streaming, his main was a 3080/10600 or something.... like... why?
Because it's easier?
Have you tabbed out in a game before to do something on your stream?
not a good argument to spend budget on a second pc to me
Tbh big streamers care
Have you recorded game play and streamed with 2 different paths to get a video without stream overlays?
They also don't want to dox themselves
yeah well, at that point money is pointless anyway
but that doesnt mean is useful
Even smaller streamers care
is nit picking
Sometimes they just want a separate machine to stream stuff off of
The quality of the stream helps a lot with bringing more people on
Separate machine means less accidentally doxing themselves
Sure nvenc isn't absolutely pixel perfect but it's a lot better than getting another pc to stream
It's nitpicking but it's what people want
โจ fullscreen windowedโจ
If they want it, we should help them get it
Do you stream? Lmao
i mean, yes, the second pc help but is a luxury anyway instead of a must... you can do very well without one
so the capture card falls into a luxury item as well
If people say they're aware of nvenc, and they want the convenience of a separate streaming PC, we should help them with that.
Full screen windowed has gotten many chatters banned because twitch chat sucks ๐
No duh
Pc's in general are luxury items
What lol you just stream only the window you want e.g. the game

Twitch chat works funny, if the streamer clicked on your name then back on the game sometimes they can accidentally ban you
That's why a lot of people with only one pc use twitch chat solely on their phone
Or they rely on mods for everything in chat
Actually I know someone who has a foot pedal bound to "B" and they've banned a few people in chat by accidentally pressing it ๐ฉ
Lol why is it so easy to ban ppl in chat also why would you have a pedal bound to b?
What is comparable in price/perf for a used 1050 ti?
pinned messages ma friend
Yeah I remembered after I posted ๐
1650s is just to powerful of a card for my daughter. Even the 1050ti is capable of running her game at 100+ fps at full settings.
Heh. I found a Craigslist add that has several different versions of evga 1050ti for $100. Think its worth?
seems about right
Ebay has them listed for basically $100 after you add in the shipping cost
Alrigjt so not a total rip? The posting does say could work out a cheaper price if bought in bulk, but I only need the 1 lol
very hard to get a card below 100 anyway
my 750ti could be one of those at like 70usd, but aside from that 100 seem ok for a 1050ti
Alroght cool. I'm assuming they were used for mining or something since he has like 8 of them lol
nothing a good ol' rubbing and repasting wont fix
I guess now is a good time as any to learn how to do that. Idk about thermal pads though
youtube is your friend ๐
man, amd plz save my wallet
hoping that the 7900xt or 7800xt is up to the challenge
Lol
Don't worry about them, they're fine as long as they don't rip. A low power GPU like that doesn't care if they're a little off.
Seems a bit steep for us market atm i think ive heard 1060s going for that much
Yeah leave the pads although repaste would be no harm
The guy says that all of them have never been used for mining. 2 of SC models were used in workstations and the SSC model was used for general gaming. He said they were repasted a month ago when he first decided he wanted to sell them.
1060s as in plural 1060? or as in 1060 super?
if that's even a thing?
Plural
gotcha ok. Looking at ebay, I'm seeing them for $100, but the shipping costs are $15+ and I'd have to wait for them to ship. One of the 1050ti will be more than enough for a 9 year old and I can get it now. It's the last piece to get before I start building the PC. I am currently building her a desk โค๏ธ
1050tis were going for about 100USD on ebay before the whole mining plague
Honestly I think they should be less now but 100 aint bad, it's a solid budget card
you can actually get 1060 6gb for a similar price
Yeah fair enough i just feel like the 1050 ti should be like maybe 90 or something
aye, but there is also the shipping costs. The 1050tis that I'm looking at are about 20 minutes away from me. So by the time I get a 1060, I'll have paid a good bit extra just for shipping and have to wait to build the PC. The way I see it, I'm getting the 1050ti for the same price if I had gotten it cheaper online and had to pay the shipping cost.
If you can wait a few days r/hardwareswap is a good shout too
I personally don't see a point to changing from the 1650s, it might be overkill now but you'll maybe sell it for $20-30 more than you'll spend on a 1050 ti
Oh yeah if you have a 1650 I'd just use that
After thinking about it, I personally want to keep my 1650s since it was my first ever GPU. I'm having sentimental issues with it atm.
Ah
I mean depending on what she plays, could just throw a 1030 in till she starts playing more demanding games
How much should a 1030 be going for?
ehhh
1030 is like 1/2 to 1/3 the perf of a 1050ti
and only 2gb vram
Depending on the PSU you could also get an rx 570
looks like they're a little cheaper than a 1050ti
like day and night
60ti have more cuda cores, more memory bandwidth and overall is a better card, like 20 to 30% better
check the pins on this channel for a rough comparison on gpus
Id definitely go with a 2070s+ if you can spend it. Spending 100$ on a 1060 6b aint terrible but i wouldn't buy anything any less
Even a 5700xt is 300 or less right now at least on used market. I just sold mine for 250
And a 5700xt is double the performance of a 1060 6gb
YMMV on drivers but i never had a single issue with my card
Above paragraph was for you lmao, forgot to hit reply
Oh nvm i read farther up.
lawl
Yeah but 1060 6gb go for about 100-150 on fb market place so id definitely get one of those vs a 1050ti
he wants to get the cheapest one for his daugther
he dont want to give her a powerful card
so anything at 100usd is ok for her i guess
I simply suggest better/newer than 1050 ti. 1st pic to.explain a bit, 2nd pic for a laugh
Price to performance which is better 3060ti or 3070
At FE msrp or similar, 60 ti was.
I am talking about laptop gpu both running at 140watt max boost
3060ti laptops doesn't exist
And for your question, 3070 mobile is indeed faster than 3060
If at same wattage
Especially so at 140w
It's a big chunk faster than 3060
I think I've settled on a new card
https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N4090AORUSX-W-24GD#kf
damn
Thought about this card like I did itโs 3090ti version, but no rgb made me pass.
I wonder how Intel Arc GPUs would perform in video editing softwares like Davinci Resolve? Would there be performance & support/compatibility issues?
You realize you can literally put an rgb strip on the side of the gpu
Obsessing over rgb to the point you're willing to spend $1200 on a mobo and won't consider a gpu because it lacks it is plain stupid
Not looking for some strip that looks bad. And only looked at aio gpu with rgb. Or probably a full water loop for new build. When you have the extra money or more to the point, when you want something specific why would you settle for something you donโt want unless you have no other options?
The lack of RGB sells me tbh lol
Kekw
omg it's so big
I have this server muted so please ping me if you have a response
Should I go with a 3080 12gb LHR or a Radeon 6900XT 16gb for a graphics card?
Pretty much purely personal preference
I'd suggest the 6900xt, I love mine.
More than anything I was looking for someone who owned the 6900XT so I appreciate your comment
Depends what ur doing and what u care about
If you don't "need" dlss or care about things like Nvidia shadow play or w/e, 6900XT is a better overall value for sure.
Remember when GPU's were 1 or 2 slots? Pepperidge farm remembers.
soon we will be remembering when they were only 4 slots and didnt need a small power plant to power 
This is hilarious, id say "what is nvidia thinking," but with how far behind the 4080s are, people will still buy it
Happily
yup, this is my reasoning rn
4080 is so far behind that is not worth the money... maybe at 1k
Maybe this is why they made it such a huge gap
pretty smart move
last gen the gap between 3080 and 3090 was so little that most gamers just ignored the 3090.... nvidia will not repeat that mistake twice
man, the suprim unboxing... beautiful
3090 was 10 to 12% better over the 3080 for almost double the price, while this time the 4090 is 70% more features (we don't know performance yet) for just a 33% increase on price
Man that aorus is so big it could pass as a small child
yeah but, cant beat suprim looks
Suprim could also pass as a newborn
nvidia claiming that the octopus adapter have some circuitry to detect the amount of connectors to feed the card
o.O
Yeah that's the sense pins
Depending on how many of 4 depends on how much towards 600 you get
Yes it's really good
No more overburdening a psu
Now if we had this for the cpu too
Then systems would be a lot more robust
But bare in mind this is for atx 3.0 devices
ATX 2.0 PSUs don't care even with an adapter lol
yup, we will be mimicking the feature with the octopus
limited
yeah, kinda sad
There goes my plan b for phanteks block
but aibs will go full ballz to the wall
๐ซฃ Hi there.

:3 Im building my first pc soon. Adult legos time
Still
and a strix non oc version for like 1800
Even non OC will be justified
Still tryna pick out which gpu i want tho
i mean.... oc version is a gimmick
That's just a case of lower level silicon
all of them will boost higher than that
how much are you willing to spend on the gpu?
max.... maybe 600 ?
that could get him a 6800xt if im not mistaken.... right felix?
Unless you go for a big cpu
i cant spell im sorry
we get it no worries
Really depends on parts, do you have a pcpp list?
Here is fine cos it's gpu related
well 850 is more than enough for a 6800xt
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FQn8yK this is the whole list.
theres a yeston gpu i wanted that matches the black and pink theme
ooofff
thing is it didnt have reviews on new egg
we can work on that
I am going to change 90% of that brb
PC Builder - Intel Core i5-12400F, GeForce RTX 3080 12GB LHR
this is my take
lets wait for felix's pc
๐ฅน but, but, i cant return my mobo i have cos its been past return date
then ill make some arrengaments
thank u ! i appreciate you all !
PC Builder - Intel Core i5-12400F, Radeon RX 6900 XT, Phanteks Eclipse G360A ATX Mid Tower
OH THE PHANTEKS ECLIPSE
Im still deciding between the white one or the nezuko asus case
he cant change the mobo
about the same as the p500
he already have the z690
Wkek
ye i already have it
we can upgrade his cpu and his ram anyway
yeyeye
12600k and some 3600c16 kit
๐โโ๏ธ sorry for the hassle

PC Builder - Intel Core i5-12600K, GeForce RTX 3080 12GB LHR, Deepcool CK560 ATX Mid Tower
i post the case in cases, felix
wait nvm
i cant post it :c i can dm it tho if u allow me to
gt301 is a decent case
I'm guessing it's not terribly expensive
uwu a bit more than yours actually. but my board isnt wifi uwu
PC Builder - Intel Core i5-12600KF, Radeon RX 6900 XT, Phanteks Eclipse G360A ATX Mid Tower

3fast9u
Mine chep

oh is the nzxt kraken good
if i wanted to do black and pink
Overpriced asetek rubbish
Ek basic black is good
oki lemme looksies
PC Builder - Intel Core i5-12600K, GeForce RTX 3080 12GB LHR
ls520 uwu
funny tho felix
the 12600k is a bit cheaper now than the kf
maybe deals
but a free igpu is a free igpu ๐
thats prettttty
Fair enough
I'm at work booking tickets, working and zoomin in and out here but ye so far so good
im going to steal your psu felix, yours is cheaper than mine
Change psu to thermaltake gf1 pe






