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wicked hound
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What is CPU (max single core) and GPU utilization?

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GTA is pretty notorious for easy internal CPU/mem bottlenecks

steep hedge
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surprisingly it was using more gpu at 61% over the gpu which was in the 30's

wicked hound
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You accidently said GPU twice, what one is CPU?
Also, what is max single core of the CPU? Games only have one render thread, so highest single threaded utilization is what's most important most of the time.

steep hedge
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GPU is 61 cpu is 30โ€™s

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Will have to check on the max single core

marble quail
marble quail
hot bough
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Not bad.

lone pond
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Is the rtx 40 series going to be worth it?

vital oriole
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it is

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if you have the money for the 4080 or something

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lower end cards will come later, probably late next year

lone pond
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I've been seeing mixed about it. I wanted to have the best I could get. I got a 3080 because the higher up ones were way more money for a minimal performance increase. I have the money, if it's worth it I'll upgrade. I'm seeing things about the 40 series being a lot more money for not that much performance though

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I'm kind of a tech idiot but something about the dlss was supposedly the only thing the new ones coming out have on the old ones

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Basically the new ones coming out weren't a huge jump in technology and performance like the 30 series was too the 20 series, just slightly better with updated dlss

balmy magnet
lone pond
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Even if this is the case and it's a money grab/product just to appease consumers I'm wondering if they're better enough to be worth it

balmy magnet
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This is why I would wait, might be hype or might be worth it but only time and trial will tell

lone pond
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That's what I'm thinking. Thanks

balmy magnet
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no prob, just my take on it tho, others might have other opinions

lone pond
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I was dreaming about getting one of the new ones and upgrading to ddr5, now I'm not so sure

balmy magnet
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I might snag a 3080 if i get a chance, but i went 12700K w/ DDR4 bc i heard of too many issues w/ DDR5 in the beginning, might be getting better now

vital oriole
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only big issue with ddr5 rn is well

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ram price

balmy magnet
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pricing is another reason i stuck to DDR4, I already had 32GB of it so

heady turtle
late vine
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the eva graghic card is pretty good

warm ember
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take this if you guys need old or discontinued items from here

warm ember
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nope

rustic pulsar
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imm sus

warm ember
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check if you find,,

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i hope

livid idol
balmy magnet
heady turtle
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yeah

balmy magnet
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that's okay, the Corsair can go in my media PC that's using a MicroCenter brand atm

keen nacelle
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Depending on the model could get away with a 6800xt

balmy magnet
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RM650x i believe

keen nacelle
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I've ran a 6800xt on the same psu without issue

odd siren
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RMx stonks

fading glacier
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EVGA shill here

keen nacelle
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I'm a gamesmax shill

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Best psu brand worldwide

balmy magnet
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i was mistaken, RM650 (no x)

keen nacelle
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Still great psu

livid idol
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Non X is still good A tier

balmy magnet
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i just know i was told to try for X PSUs, but none were in stock when i bought

keen nacelle
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That's a terrible rule of thumb lol

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Idk who told you that

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Rm and rmx are just as good as eachother

balmy magnet
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a guy who used to work w/ me

livid idol
heady turtle
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Rmx is bot better

keen nacelle
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We need S tier

fading glacier
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is a tier above A

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change my mind

odd siren
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I agree

vapid bramble
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Any other sites to look for graphics card other than Newegg ,Amazon ? Looking for specific cards and Amazon doesnโ€™t have them, not getting rando Chinese seller card off Newegg or rolling the dice on Ebay any other reputable dealers to look at?

dusty hare
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If you have a micro center nearby I'd look there

vapid bramble
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US

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In Alaska so not many physical stores around so mostly online ordering and even then hard to get things that will ship here.

heady turtle
wicked hound
hot bough
heady turtle
wicked hound
heady turtle
balmy magnet
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what's everyone's exp/opinion with Gigabyte GPUs/mobos? are they okay, or do people have a load of issues with them? I ask bc a friend has had nothing but issues but I am not hearing that many others have

odd siren
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Have to preface this

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Not every product in any brand stack is equally good, some are tire fires

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But as far as most of gigabyte's gpu/mobo stuff goes these days, it's pretty decent

balmy magnet
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i am asking him what model it was, i know it was an AMD chipset and it was a while back (3yrs maybe)

odd siren
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As long as we aren't talking super super low end, or the unlikely event of random capacitors falling off( kek ), they're pretty decent

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An older amd mobo?

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Perhaps, b450 ds3h?

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Aorus elite?

balmy magnet
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sounds likely, he does not remember exactly as they wound up going MSI

odd siren
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You'll probably have a bit less teething with MSI software and firmware tbh

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But Gigglebit is still ok, it's not outright or overall bad

balmy magnet
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i had issue w/ an MSI mobo so i steer clear now myself

odd siren
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And me Asus, but we digress really

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Random CMOS clears are...fun...lol

balmy magnet
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random BSODs with a bad RAM socket are too

fading glacier
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I have no problems witj msi mobos so far

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I love their bios

odd siren
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Ya a bad ram socket is unfortunate

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Not specific to a brand tho

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But I get the feeling

balmy magnet
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my issue comes from RMAing the board, being told it's fixed and yet the issue persisted, yet the same CPU, PSU, and RAM worked fine in a diff MSI board

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hell, same RAM in this ASUS z690 D-4 board w/ 12700K, but MSI swore it's the ram at fault

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anyways, just curious as i keep seeing sales for Gigabyte stuff and was wondering

odd siren
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I've had that happen before

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My Xbox one X died of a bad sata cable

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I kept sending it in and they kept swapping the drive not the cable

fading glacier
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You have to deal with those misshaps on the tech world

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Sadly

odd siren
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Kept having issues until recently I just hacksawed the literal cable out

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Put my own in

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Now my xbox is flawless

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Some people are just terrible tech helpers

orchid loom
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Hello

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What is pcie x16 on mobos

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will performace go down if it runs at x8

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I was looking at a z790 mobo

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here is it all so can only 1 think run at pcie 5.0

keen nacelle
orchid loom
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Say like newer gpu

fading glacier
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same applies ๐Ÿ˜›, not about the gen, but how much a certain sku make use of the bus

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only the 3090 use almost the entire bus, things like 3060 or so can go ok on the x8 as example

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about the 40 series we dont know yet

toxic escarp
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I got one that cost 10k

rustic pulsar
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Most GPUs can run fine in gen 4x8, I think the newer gen 5x16 is more important if you have lots of pci devices that share the lanes?

ivory herald
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Indeed, and 40 series isn't even pcie5. kekw

rustic pulsar
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nah, nvidia is trolling

ivory herald
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They know more than you. Gen 4 is plenty of bandwidth, especially if a card doesn't use x8 or deffo x4 like certain amd cards.

rustic pulsar
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true im just salty lol, i want the bigger numbers go ooggga vboboga

lone pond
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How do I set windows to use my Radeon HD 7850 for my VTubing program, and not my GTX 1070 OR my HD 4600 iGPU?

I know how to switch between my iGPU and GTX 1070, but I want it to use my Radeon HD 7850.

hasty monolith
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Can rx 6500 xt be run on pci 3x16

keen nacelle
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You'd be better off with a used 16 series, higher 10 series or some 500 series amd cards

fading glacier
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@hot bough

balmy magnet
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doesn't the 6500XT use PCIe4x4

rustic pulsar
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I think theyโ€™re raising the prices to encourage the flood for 3000 series

fading glacier
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no, just that one

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must be a typo

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still weird that the aib sell theirs at the same msrp

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wat kind of contraption is this

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xD

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beautiful, this one si the one for me, just a couple more days

fervent sedge
hot bough
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Wait, 40 series is out?!

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Wasn't it supposed to launch October 12th?!

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Will I need a ATX 3.0 PSU for my 4090 or can I use it on my ATX 2.0 PSU for like a week or so until I get a ATX 3.0 PSU?

balmy magnet
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Negg is showing that the 40-series is "coming soon" and "out of stock" at the same time lol
depending on the PSU you might be able to get away with the adapter until your ATX3.0 PSU arrives, but with all I have been reading/watching I would not risk it unless absolutely necessary

ivory herald
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Oct 20th is 13th gen sales embargo could be what you thought of. Don't need atx3, but I also wouldn't outright suggest possibly sketch/ghetto adapters. 24+ wires (3x8, etc) into a single 12pin just feels funky. Pepe_KEK

hot bough
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Got it.

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I think I will buy a ATX 3.0 psu just incase then since the GPU will be able to communicate with the PSU.

hot bough
ivory herald
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If atx3, also make sure it has pcie5 aka 12vhpwr connector because getting to use a single cable would be a decent perk to me (gpu).

hot bough
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Which models for the 4090 at coming out at launch again?

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I heard the Strix variant is using a different plug compared to the FE.

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Like 16+4 compared to 22+2 or something like that a while back.

vital oriole
hot bough
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What's the difference between the OC and non OC version?

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Higher power limit?

vital oriole
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slight core clock difference really

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if you need higher pl just flash another vbios

hot bough
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So it's not like Intel's "k" designation?

vital oriole
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nah

hot bough
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Got it.

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I keep contemplating with myself if I should get the Strix OC or FE card.

vital oriole
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strix will cost more for sure

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it comes with strix tax xd

hot bough
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Strixt tax.

vital oriole
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ha

hot bough
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Performance difference would you expect if on a waterblock?

vital oriole
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Nah

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That difference of cooling will disappear once you slap a waterblock onto them

ivory herald
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Maybe around 10% max, idk. Depends mostly on clocks. Strix seems to have same 12pin connector. 600w would be nuts on any card. Efficiency put the window. As for FE:

hot bough
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So performance will be the same after they're on a waterblock?

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Or better put extremely similar?

ivory herald
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At the very least water block should be less clock drop at load, mostly from peak temp being way lower. Stock boost is around 3ghz btw. Pog

hot bough
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Oh wait, the 4090 fe can't use 600 watts?

hot bough
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I heard 2.5-2.6ghz.

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Not 3.

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Well I am not complaining.

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Imagine, we're gonna look back on this 10 years from now and there is a GPU that can boost up to 10ghz.

ivory herald
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Ah my bad. Nvidia saying how they OC'D some to 3ghz. Stock boost is around 2.5ghz. No idea what sort of limits there are. Seems quite a bit more headroom vs 10/20 series. My 1080 at stock boosts to 2ghz, 50+ over what it should. Pepe_KEK

hot bough
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Oh yeah, I forgot about that article I read this morning.

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They said that they had OCed them to 3ghz without exotic cooling.

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On the FE cards at that.

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Hmmmmm.

fading glacier
hot bough
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๐Ÿ˜

ivory herald
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"Wth man, I already enlightened em". kekw

hot bough
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anyways.

hot bough
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My brain is literally in this state right now angryping as I try to figure out Strix or FE.

fading glacier
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why? we had this chat like a 100 times

hot bough
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I know.

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The smart move is FE.

fading glacier
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not smart, its the obvious

rustic pulsar
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?

fading glacier
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you want to collect? well collect fe cards

rustic pulsar
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wouldnt strix have better clock and cooling?

hot bough
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It's like that feeling where you know what you should do, but that one part of you keeps saying do the other thing.

fading glacier
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yeah but he want toi be a "collector" of sorts... of flagship cards

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if you want to be a real collector just get the fe models

hot bough
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Flagship GPUs, doesn't need to be FE in my books.

fading glacier
hot bough
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It's collecting the chip that's important to me.

ivory herald
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450w on an FE cooler feels like a no from me, but with 40 series pricing I'll probably go 12GB 3080 or maybe 3080 ti. Although, dropping PL or doing UV is an extra ez choice on 40 series. Stock efficiency is a bit junk.

fading glacier
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i will aim for a suprim this gen

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strix too expensive for what it is

rustic pulsar
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nah fam gotta get the ROG

fading glacier
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nel

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not that overengineered as before

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most cards will be 22+2

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strix is 24+2

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its like.... meh

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no strix tax for me, thank you

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heck even the founder is 22+2

hot bough
fading glacier
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i dont have that much money to waste

hot bough
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Are the suprims gonna be better then FE this gen as well?

fading glacier
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dunno

ivory herald
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Better be, suprim is 1 of the top models. Fan on top of FE bugs me a anyways.

hot bough
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G0d, this is killing me.

fading glacier
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dunno why

hot bough
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Just like how I am wondering why I am not VIP yet....

fading glacier
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this is not a life or death situation man

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take it easy

hot bough
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Like, I get a adrenaline rush when I see good PC tech.

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Or really any new advancement in tech.

brisk flame
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yeah but ur wallet gets depressed

fading glacier
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he seems like he doesnt care for money

ivory herald
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Biggest advancements were in the past tbh, like when 1080p 60+ fps was easily possible in most games. Pentium 4 to E8400 was a big upgrade, for example. 3770 also.

fading glacier
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yup

hot bough
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True.

fading glacier
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this is not like a big breakthrough

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so take it easy

hot bough
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The sad part is that the future is more then likely gonna become like Cyberpunk 2077 envisioned it by some point.

fading glacier
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why is sad?

hot bough
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There are some good books on that, I guess it really comes down to the individual.

pseudo cape
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EVGA is going to lose big time next year

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Going away from GPUs!? Wtf buys anything else from them lol

fading glacier
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maybe he is trolling

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not worth xD

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anyway...

hot bough
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I like the concept of being able to download info into you, tech prosthetics sorta, and so on but the idea of AR where people are now paying for subscriptions to make themselves look good (through contacts) but walking around fat and in sweatpants in reality scares me.

fading glacier
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we will be long dead for that

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no need to worry on those things

hot bough
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And it's gonna start probably before I am 60-70 with the way AR development is coming along.

fading glacier
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live today, dont think on that kind of distant future

hot bough
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Yeahh I suppose.

hot bough
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Stick with the near future.

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Not distant.

fading glacier
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ill be dead in 50 years, so w/e

hot bough
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Ooof.

ivory herald
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On the flipside of your talk. I say some dead relatives are lucky to missed out on some crap these days, tiktok, twitter, tech dependency on a grand scale.

hot bough
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Don't get me wrong, I enjoy TV but I hate the shiz that goes on Tiktok, twitter, insta, etc.

fading glacier
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just worry about your work, the money for your family and the education of your children

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and your retirement

hot bough
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Literally like 80% of the stuff just makes you more stupid.

fading glacier
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easy

hot bough
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I prefer good shows to watch on occassion with a good story and so on behind it.

hot bough
fading glacier
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at least thats me, worry for my family, mi kids, and my retirement

hot bough
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We're in the same boat then.

fading glacier
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my pc is my hobby so i dont take it that seriously or fanatically as you

ivory herald
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Heard of The Expanse on Prime Video? Decent series. Started on on SciFi for obvious reasons.

hot bough
fading glacier
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and ma wife understand that, my pc is my hobby but not my priority, so its ok ๐Ÿ™‚

fading glacier
hot bough
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My priorities are family, work, exercise, then every thing else is just a want not a need.

fading glacier
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yo have a problem pal

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too much free time

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๐Ÿ˜›

hot bough
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Not really, tbf I only do it during my short breaks or after work.

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But anyways yea I suppose I do have a bit of a tech-want-to-know issue.

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A very small issue.

fading glacier
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more like a tech-too-lazy-to-look-on-google

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you can just look at videocardz and there you have the info everyday

hot bough
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Got it.

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But also it's more fun to be able to socialize to be fair.

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But you're right. I will look at videocardz.

fading glacier
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yeah, chill man, i mean, on my case i look at videocardz every morning with my coffee, if there is no valuable info that day well, its ok

hot bough
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Aight.

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๐Ÿซ

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breath in

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๐Ÿซ

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breathe out.

fading glacier
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if it is, then you have something worthwhile to start a chat with the bois ๐Ÿ˜›

hot bough
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By the way, do you think 1200-1300 watt psu can handle the potential spikes on the 4090?

fading glacier
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we dont know

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we should wait for the reviews

hot bough
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Aight. Guess I will buy the GPU then wait a few days to find out about the PSUs.

fading glacier
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starting with the fact that we dont know how the 40 series handle transients

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or if they have transients at all

hot bough
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Fair.

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Do you play Halo Infinite by any chance?

fading glacier
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no, im a warzone guy

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waiting for mw2 now

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hopefully i will have my 4090 by the time mw2 hits

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ill try to get a suprim but that will depend on price

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if not ill settle on a x trio

ivory herald
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$2k on a gpu is a bit bonkers. btw, mw-ii*, mw2 was the good old days. I will say that open Beta was pretty fun. Nice to have a change from a big lootfest as most BR is. Domination mode was also fun. These 2 pics sort of exhibit how BR-type stuff isn't what I'm best at. Pepe_KEK

fading glacier
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yeah 2k on the strix is outrageous, but seems like the rest of the models on newegg at least ar at 1599

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if the suprim is even 100 more, then its a buy, but more than 100usd over the msrp is a no

ivory herald
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Oh yeah they're not all $2K

fading glacier
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ok, can i have the link of that plz, its for a homework :#

ivory herald
fading glacier
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well its the lc version of the suprim

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yeah most of the time i forgto tomhardware

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its either videocardz or youtube lately

ivory herald
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ok. why point out what I underlined, lol. I was highlighting not being $2K as Apex mentioned something about.

fading glacier
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wait for it

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bam!

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could be a placeholder

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but its a strix so..... could be real

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i mean it would not surprise me to see a strix at 2 grands

ivory herald
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bruh I'm not refuting the $2K strix price, haha. Check out the msi gaming trio that's FE msrp. Pog

fading glacier
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yeah thats why that one is my second option

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if the suprim is way higher

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but no placeholder price on egg... yet

ivory herald
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price will be interesting indeed. Seems mighty similar overall to the Trio. Gonna be fun seeing reviews and mainly overclocking results.

rustic pulsar
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2520 nice

fading glacier
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i expect something like a hundred more

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no more than that and its ok for my tastes

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the LC one is tempting me, but i dont trust the pump on aios enough to trsut a card that will be on my rig for the next 6+ years

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ill stick with traditional air

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well egg is working on the 4090 listings

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the strix no longer has a price tag and have a lot more pictures now

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too bad that the FE cards are best buy exclusive cards and only on-site buying ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

ivory herald
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FE is also no longer cheaper than certain other models, which is awesome for some people. Wonder how this'll be w/ the future SKUz

fading glacier
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ofc but could be a nice piece of collection

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like owning an fe card

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but oh well

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looking at techpower up and the transient response isnt that bad if true

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gamer jesus will test that fo sure

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20+3 phases do wonders

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and that pid controller

ivory herald
fading glacier
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yup, the transient thing is under control, or so they say

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now an 850w can truly handle a 4090 and a power hungry cpu at the same time without tripping

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or so they say

ivory herald
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Wouldn't catch me w/ that combo. kek (obviously I'm not gonna spend near-4figures on a GPU anyways.) FeelsStrongMan

fading glacier
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i will cause it will be like my last good pc

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my magnus opus

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the next pc will be for my kids, and then ill start travelling

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so, will be like justified ๐Ÿ˜›

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besides the gap between the 4080 16g and the 4090 is way too big to consider a 4080 as a valuable choice long term

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the more you spend, the more you save

wicked hound
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3090 and lower had bad transients tho

wicked hound
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Shows more out of whack prices and even further spec scaling whackyness if 4090Ti uses 24Gbps 6X

fading glacier
wicked hound
ivory herald
fading glacier
wicked hound
ivory herald
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oh well. Wonder how high we can OC the 21Gb stuff too.

brisk flame
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so they just didnt bother with the added expense

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quadros will have 24gbps, dw lol

knotty turtle
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Iโ€™m looking for a budget gpu(like 200$ around), the games I play are valorant, rocket league, Minecraft, and apex legends. Anybody have any recommendations, and should I buy it after market.

keen nacelle
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1060 6gb

wicked hound
# brisk flame quadros will have 24gbps, dw lol

I mean maybe, but that isnt the point. Main takeaway is the fact that SKU scaling is prolly more whack then assumed. Also given the price I have my doubts that they couldnt afford 24Gbps binning, while Ada is expensive Nvidia is still making huge bank with their current prices. Kinda just an extra slap in the face for the consumer basically. With all that said, who knows if 21Gbps binning has changed with better OC potential.

brisk flame
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i mean once again, if it doesnt make enough of a difference, theres no reason to waste money putting it on there

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but also i dont know if it would make a difference or not

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nvidia seems to think it doesnt

wicked hound
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384 bus with 21Gbps is close-ish to 320 bus with 24Gbps in terms of bandwidth

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384-21 is inbetween 352-24 and 320-24 more or less. Which are step down variants we've seen before for XX80Ti. Assuming 4090Ti is 24Gbps then spec/perf scaling would put 4090 closer to XX80Ti area (which I really want to be proven wrong for sake of sanity of this gen).

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Just to show what would happen if 4090Ti was 24Gbps and everything else was 21Gbps. For anyone else seeing this, plz know that colored data is an educated guess so take it with a moderate grain of salt.

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Put 1325 for 4090 as some rumored AIB data has shown 21.2Gbps memory

brisk flame
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i guess i just find it hard to care about how the SKUs line up

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like i get it being pretty slimy from a marketing standpoint

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but nobody here buys into marketing in the slightest

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ion give a damn what they call it, how does it perform, and whats the price

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extra slap in the face? the whole damn card is a slap in the face

fading glacier
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and yes, all the aibs show 21 gbps binned chips ๐Ÿ˜ฆ sad indeed

brisk flame
rustic pulsar
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ok looks just to be rumored

wicked hound
# rustic pulsar is 4090ti confirmed?

I mean, 4090 is a really cut down AD102. It's been a very long time if not never been a time where Nvidia didnt release a full die to at least prosumers (Titan). Doubt Nvidia is bringing back the Titan so 4090Ti is assumed to happen

fading glacier
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youtube is getting full of conspiracies lately

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the new one spaks about no 4070 and below cards while the 30 series is on

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lawl, seems possible indeed ๐Ÿ˜› now that the lineup is 4090 - 4080 - 3080 - 3070 and so on

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its like the youtubers promoting conspiracies and sensationalism multiplied since the nvdia keynote

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so many clickbait on my account lately

hasty monolith
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how much psu do u need for the 4090ti? 1000watts?

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also probably need to upgrade the cooling unit as well

vital oriole
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4090ti isn't a thing

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4090 is the highest atm

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Depending on the psu and your cpu, and case

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A good 850w psu would do fine if you have like a 150w cpu

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You don't have to upgrade your cpu cooler if it's good enough, the gpus comes with their own cooling solution so you won't have to worry

brisk flame
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interesting that other people feel the same way

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i mean, it would make sense with the boatload of 30 series cards floating around

#

maybe they think it just wouldnt be profitable to sell low end cards, or maybe they still got a ton of ampere dies to sell, who knows

fading glacier
#

maybe we will have only 4090s and 4080s for some time, the lower skus will be available when the old 30 cards start to dwindle

#

no need for 4070s or lower skus because those will devaluate even more the 30 series, maybe they have the chips already but no need to produce them for now

#

still a conspiracy xD

livid idol
#

It's not a conspiracy if that's exactly what Jensen said on record

vital oriole
#

lower skus will come next year, imma bet

livid idol
#

Oh yeah we're not seeing a "4070" until next year easy

#

7700 XT though, AMD is still on track for the standard release schedule

vital oriole
#

that's good

livid idol
#

It'll be interesting if AMD can flip the script and have a 7700 XT outperform that "3080" 12gb

#

But even if it gets close that's a win really

sturdy storm
#

got the gpu in the pc yesterday

#

lol

#

was not the one whoever linked me but it was from the same dude

#

so whatever close enough

#

at least its genuine
might test it and whatnot lol

fading glacier
#

the "strix" model for arc... asus predator

#

goin to tax on intel as well xD

keen nacelle
#

Odd looking card

fading glacier
#

and 2 pcie connectors

#

a770 after all, should perform as good as a 3070

#

or so they say

#

but yeah the fan configuration is quite... strange

vital oriole
#

i'd realistically expect 3060ti

#

but predator card looks nice

fading glacier
#

12 more days bois

#

plus in 10 days the egg fantastech is up again

keen nacelle
keen nacelle
#

It's also a three slot card for no reason

fading glacier
keen nacelle
#

No I mean that there's space for a third fan but they just made it solid

fading glacier
keen nacelle
#

Yeah I do

fading glacier
#

oh, a three fan

keen nacelle
#

And it can be bought but it's pre order

fading glacier
#

yup

vital oriole
#

the a770?

fading glacier
#

no no, rpl

#

we are 2 months away from bf

#

funny tho

vital oriole
#

ah

fading glacier
#

we ended up upgrading our pcs by the end of the year anyway

#

xD

#

i was planning september since march and now we are approaching november

vital oriole
#

im gettin laptop by then

#

maybe

keen nacelle
#

I originally planned July

#

Then September

#

Now November

#

Pain

fading glacier
#

hahaha

vital oriole
#

My plan is December

#

dies

fading glacier
#

december is a hot month here at ecuador

#

not goin to buy december, its either nov or january

heady turtle
fading glacier
#

ooofff true

#

on december many things can go missing at customs on my country.... so... no

#

in fact late november is already becoming dangerous ๐Ÿ˜›

normal hawk
#

jump on a sale or wait another year. If you need more than a 3050, I'd just wait.

molten river
#

I have this video card, it will be compatible and in performance for this new processor, and the new DDR5 motherboard. I will not have any problem...ASUS KO GeForce RTX 3060 Ti V2 OC Edition 8GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 x16 Video Card KO-RTX3060TI-O8G-V2-GAMING (LHR)

fading glacier
#

it will work just fine

#

i dont see the problem there

#

as long as the mobo have a pcie slot then it will work e_E

molten river
#

wait for the new if it will be compatible for the new processor and mother board...ddr-5.ok t/y

#

AMD Ryzen 7 7700X - 8-Core 4.5 GHz - Socket AM5 - 105W Desktop Processor (100-100000591WOF)

fading glacier
#

there is no "compatibility" issues with a gpu card, the only compatibility thing to have is a pcie x16 slot

#

as long as you have a pcie x16 slot then the card will work

molten river
#

I have not seen the new motherboards bring pcie x16 slot.?

fading glacier
#

wut?

#

all the mobos these days have at least one pcie x16 slot

#

ALL

#

note the capital size letters

#

even the dirty cheap ones have at least 1 pcie x16 slot

#

both amd and intel have pcie lanes exclusively for the primary pcie x16 slot (usually the one near the cpu)

molten river
#

ok,t/y

#

They recommend me to buy the new one or I go for ddr4, like a b550 mobo, and amd cpu AMD Ryzen 7 5700X - Ryzen 7 5000 Series 8-Core Socket AM4

fading glacier
#

which cpu do you have?

molten river
#

I have not bought, I only have the video card. KO-RTX3060TI-O8G-V2-GAMING (LHR)

fading glacier
#

so you have nothing but the gpu?

molten river
#

yes

fading glacier
#

and how much are you willing to spend on a new system?

molten river
#

I just want to know the compatibility and performance of my video card if I go for the new, or better with ddr4.

fading glacier
#

you can pair it with 5600+b550 or a 12400f+b660 combos just fine on ddr4

#

both are similarly priced

#

and its an inexpensive combination

#

you dont need 8 cores for gaming like the 5700 or the 12700

#

and some 650w psu (at least b tier or better)

molten river
#

Ok, I'll keep that in mind, thanks.

verbal mesa
#

Is the 2070 supposed to look like that or is that dust buildup?

pulsar depot
#

Looks like dust build up

ivory herald
#

It's more obvious dust when you aim between the blades. Also not surprised for a 3+ yr old gpu. (I forget exactly when 2070 came out)

#

Meant to add this

keen nacelle
#

I think it was 2018, but could still be 2 years old technichally if bought just before 30 series launch

ivory herald
#

No I just meant aim your eyes there, lol. Remember to hold the blades when using compressed air so they don't spin 9000rpm and ruin the bearings.

verbal mesa
#

I always shoot compressed air making it spin for all my fans.

#

๐Ÿ˜ญ

vital oriole
#

Yeah

#

Or make them spin backwards, that can be bad too

toxic umbra
#

So I just bought an EVGA 3070 XC3 a couple months ago. Running it with a ryzen 7 5800X, 64GB ramโ€ฆwas debating on the idea of overclocking the card, but no clue where I should start or if that 3070 has a โ€œsweet spotโ€ OC setting(s)?

idle idol
#

I am debating of getting Intel Arc A770, not sure it'll be a very huge upgrade from a RX 6600.

vital oriole
#

Not worth going for that

#

It's probably gonna be as fast as 3060ti

idle idol
#

Oh, I thought it was a RTX 3070 equivalent.

idle idol
cerulean rover
#

afaik same core count so same answer

idle idol
#

mkay.

cerulean rover
#

And well, wait for reviews for now, it's supposed to compete with 3060 as far as we know right now

wicked hound
cerulean rover
#

Nvidia conditioning people to think higher vram = higher performance by putting extra cores on higher vram GPUs

#

Intel comes in and just slaps extra vram and no extra cores on a gpu

wicked hound
#

Hm, has AMD ever done that actually?

cerulean rover
#

I don't think so

wicked hound
cerulean rover
#

Intel going to make a quick buck off people

#

kinda sad

wicked hound
cerulean rover
#

anyways I'm just sad

#

a lot more people we have to convince higher vram number doesn't mean better

wicked hound
#

I mean we always have had to do that, dont think Nvidia is making a huge dent to that issue

cerulean rover
#

oh no I'm saying Intel is going to make a dent in the issue

#

At least with nvidia people can understand 3060ti > 3060 and look past 12gb vs 8gb

#

but dunno how to tell people a770 16gb = a770 8gb

#

just sad times

#

both companies doing wacky stuff

#

there was some guy in pcmr tryna grab a 2060 12gb instead of the og 2060 because bigger number earlier today, it's just sad

wicked hound
#

Idk, when Nvidia tries to do the VRAM mixing I tend to see people say "Oh, I perf would be the same between the two and one should just choose based on whether you need more VRAM for 4k/prof work"

cerulean rover
#

am just sad

odd siren
wicked hound
#

Eh, I think a very small amt of people are going to get duped by that. Those that will are prolly being duped elsewhere too, like buying 128gb RAM cuz more=better.

wicked hound
cerulean rover
#

lol

odd siren
#

Muh cheese scrolls

cerulean rover
#

16k texture cheese wheels

odd siren
#

Professional cheese wheel simulations with CAD

#

AERODYNAMICS

wicked hound
odd siren
#
  • forks up 3K *
wicked hound
#

Gonna need much more then that to buy 69 H100s

odd siren
#

But

#

Muh cheese wheels

wicked hound
#

We can get Nvidia man to smuggle some out for us

odd siren
frigid anvil
#

Nice waterblock

#

For what card?

odd siren
#

FE afaik

#

It's gorgeous

#

Shame I didn't go the T30's route for more phanteks but also the ano black accents are gorgeous

wicked hound
#

Cool spot for fittings

grave burrow
heady turtle
grave burrow
#

449 usd as on Amazon

heady turtle
#

Eh

heady turtle
#

@grave burrow actually if you haven't bought anything yet this is a very nice deal (if you will buy something from newegg for 160 soonish)
#tech-deals message

vocal current
hasty sphinx
livid idol
#

Is that the statement where they were talking about how you shouldn't worry about it catching fire because they expect manufacturers to fix it before production runs that already happened?

#

And the "early" version adapters given to reviewers were low quality too, and that's totally been fixed also

#

Because we totally trust nvidia to not lie and have our best interests right?

rugged thunder
#

Nvidia has never failed or disappointed the user base

#

They're on our side

rugged thunder
#

In other news

#

Nvidia makes a card that'll take an entire circuit in your house to power

fading glacier
#

in fact thats the wise thing to do

#

i have an isolated circuit just for the pc rn

#

in preparation

rugged thunder
#

It doubles as a heater in the winter

heady turtle
#

Smugs in 240v

hasty sphinx
hasty sphinx
heady turtle
#

Time will tell

hasty sphinx
heady turtle
fading glacier
normal hawk
#

I gotta figure out what to do with a 580 8gb and 5700xt now that the mining is dying. F

fading glacier
#

is dying? is dead bro

normal hawk
#

ye

fading glacier
#

been dead for half a month already

vital oriole
#

i can attest to that

formal furnace
#

i have a stock dell optiplex 9020 now i was planning on updating it for gaming but i dont want to update the psu i saw that a sata to 6 or 8 pin would work but would you need a psu update with that and would i be able to upgrade the ram i was planning on getting a gtx 1650 super for it but im not 100% sure about updating the psu or just getting the sata to 6 pin

heady turtle
normal hawk
heady turtle
#

check ebay for recently sold cards

#

then if selling on fb market or r/hws take a bit off

formal furnace
#

167 140 ish i think

fading glacier
#

true, you dont need to ask "how much it sells" jus look at your local used market (fb market/ebay/hw) and make a reasonable post

#

price varies from market to market

#

but will definitely worth more than sitting in your shelf

molten river
tall lichen
#

You know those metal pieces you remove from the back of your PC when inserting a new GPU? Mine tend to make noise, is there a way to fix that?

winter valley
#

7700xt or 7800xt or should i stick with the 6800xt

rugged thunder
#

Probably stick with the 6800xt

winter valley
rugged thunder
#

You made it sound like you had one lol

#

My bad

ivory herald
#

No, their bad. "should I stick with the 6800Xt", haha. Well 7000 series at worst should arrive before 40 series, so not exactly a long wait.

winter valley
#

timings kinda weird for me

#

but

#

ill try to get my hands on one

#

ok mb

#

i was being dumb

rustic pulsar
#

โค๏ธ

rugged thunder
#

๐Ÿ’œ

winter valley
fading glacier
#

we dont know price nor availablity and even less how may skus will be released at launch

winter valley
#

How may skus?

fading glacier
#

we dont know if amd will only launch the high end, or any mid range card at launch

#

must be 7900 and probably 7800, highly doubt on any mid range till q1, but we will see

winter valley
#

Ok

fading glacier
#

so dont expect something below 800, well thats my guess, could be wrong

#

still the reveal will be on november

balmy magnet
#

what's the real spec diff between the MSI RX 6800 XT Gaming X Trio and the RX 6800 XT Gaming Z Trio? like, i see a lil bit of core clock and boost clock diff, but nothing that really screams out why the X is $400 more

fading glacier
#

400 more is outrageous

#

but yes the X version is basically the oc version

#

a lil more clock

vital oriole
#

yeah

#

get the z

#

the price diff is ridiculous

balmy magnet
#

seriously, one was $630, the other $1071 lol

keen nacelle
#

Well the gaming x isn't made anymore

hot bough
hot bough
#

What are the benefits of using a capture card vs just using your GPU for recording?

vital oriole
#

None tbh

ivory herald
#

Capture card is less load on gpu for one thing. How much, idk because I don't use one.

vital oriole
#

It's not an impact lol

#

Cause gpus has hw encoder and stuff

fading glacier
ivory herald
#

Right, use a capture card mainly for gaming on console & pc for streaming

heady turtle
heady turtle
ivory herald
#

Nope, I mean streaming w/ pc for the console game*. Do people bother w/ a console + capture card if not streaming. kekw -- edit: yea, my phrasing wasn't best.

lone pond
#

Guys am I supposed to peal the sticker on my graphics card

heady turtle
#

Uhh not like a sticker sticker but there's more than likely a protective plastic sticker like layer which you should yes

valid citrus
#

anyone know if the Gigabyte OC 6650 XT is a good model?

pulsar pine
#

6650xt might not be worth it right now tho

#

depends what price you find one at

normal hawk
keen nacelle
#

6650xt as long as it isn't mech 2x is fine

normal hawk
#

Warzone can get a 20+ fps boost for example if you stream it on a dual pc setup instead of one pc using nvenc

keen nacelle
#

Just depends on price @valid citrus

normal hawk
#

And in Warzone it's justified to want those 20fps ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

ivory herald
#

Also justifies to not play that. kekleo

fleet marsh
#

everyone: discussing about monster gpu
me with an intel UHD 610 intergrated gpu: Bruh

winter valley
#

i have an intel xeon

#

igpu

livid idol
#

Technically that's on the motherboard, not the cpu

crystal storm
#

anyone got any good deals on a 2080 gigabyte edition

#

looking to run 2 in sli

livid idol
#

ebay probably

livid idol
vapid bramble
#

Anyone know if you can use a lian li strimmer on a rx 6900 xt?

#

Also which would you go with radion toxic rx 6900 xt new or gigabyte extreme waterforce 3080 12gb open box? Can't find 3080 12gb or 3090 for the waterforce new anywhere it seems

vital oriole
#

Strimmer is 24 pin cable

#

It's not for gpu

#

But for mobo

#

Oh wait there's a gpu one too

#

Then yeah, it'll work

livid idol
heady turtle
normal hawk
fading glacier
#

yeah but that falls on nit picking if anything

#

you can run a more powerful cpu instead of a second pc

#

one day i saw a wow streamer who had a second pc for streaming, his main was a 3080/10600 or something.... like... why?

normal hawk
#

Have you tabbed out in a game before to do something on your stream?

fading glacier
#

not a good argument to spend budget on a second pc to me

cerulean rover
#

Tbh big streamers care

normal hawk
#

Have you recorded game play and streamed with 2 different paths to get a video without stream overlays?

cerulean rover
#

They also don't want to dox themselves

fading glacier
#

yeah well, at that point money is pointless anyway

#

but that doesnt mean is useful

normal hawk
#

Even smaller streamers care

fading glacier
#

is nit picking

cerulean rover
#

Sometimes they just want a separate machine to stream stuff off of

normal hawk
#

The quality of the stream helps a lot with bringing more people on

cerulean rover
#

Separate machine means less accidentally doxing themselves

heady turtle
cerulean rover
#

It's nitpicking but it's what people want

heady turtle
cerulean rover
#

If they want it, we should help them get it

normal hawk
fading glacier
#

i mean, yes, the second pc help but is a luxury anyway instead of a must... you can do very well without one

#

so the capture card falls into a luxury item as well

cerulean rover
#

If people say they're aware of nvenc, and they want the convenience of a separate streaming PC, we should help them with that.

normal hawk
#

Full screen windowed has gotten many chatters banned because twitch chat sucks ๐Ÿ˜

normal hawk
#

Pc's in general are luxury items

fading glacier
#

true, you got me there

#

wait no

#

pcs are tools

normal hawk
#

Wtf

heady turtle
fading glacier
normal hawk
heady turtle
#

Ohh i see

#

I thought you meant they'd get the streamer banned

normal hawk
#

That's why a lot of people with only one pc use twitch chat solely on their phone

#

Or they rely on mods for everything in chat

#

Actually I know someone who has a foot pedal bound to "B" and they've banned a few people in chat by accidentally pressing it ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

heady turtle
#

Lol why is it so easy to ban ppl in chat also why would you have a pedal bound to b?

cerulean rover
#

Game stuff

#

Maybe B is braking in-game

#

So their brake pedal

hasty sphinx
#

What is comparable in price/perf for a used 1050 ti?

fading glacier
#

pinned messages ma friend

hasty sphinx
#

1650s is just to powerful of a card for my daughter. Even the 1050ti is capable of running her game at 100+ fps at full settings.

fading glacier
#

kids dont deserve powerful gpus

#

let them break their backs for those as we do

hasty sphinx
fading glacier
#

seems about right

hasty sphinx
#

Ebay has them listed for basically $100 after you add in the shipping cost

hasty sphinx
fading glacier
#

very hard to get a card below 100 anyway

#

my 750ti could be one of those at like 70usd, but aside from that 100 seem ok for a 1050ti

hasty sphinx
#

Alroght cool. I'm assuming they were used for mining or something since he has like 8 of them lol

fading glacier
#

nothing a good ol' rubbing and repasting wont fix

hasty sphinx
fading glacier
#

youtube is your friend ๐Ÿ™‚

#

man, amd plz save my wallet

#

hoping that the 7900xt or 7800xt is up to the challenge

hasty sphinx
#

Lol

livid idol
heady turtle
#

Yeah leave the pads although repaste would be no harm

hasty sphinx
hasty sphinx
#

if that's even a thing?

heady turtle
hasty sphinx
# heady turtle Plural

gotcha ok. Looking at ebay, I'm seeing them for $100, but the shipping costs are $15+ and I'd have to wait for them to ship. One of the 1050ti will be more than enough for a 9 year old and I can get it now. It's the last piece to get before I start building the PC. I am currently building her a desk โค๏ธ

random walrus
#

1050tis were going for about 100USD on ebay before the whole mining plague

#

Honestly I think they should be less now but 100 aint bad, it's a solid budget card

#

you can actually get 1060 6gb for a similar price

heady turtle
hasty sphinx
# random walrus you can actually get 1060 6gb for a similar price

aye, but there is also the shipping costs. The 1050tis that I'm looking at are about 20 minutes away from me. So by the time I get a 1060, I'll have paid a good bit extra just for shipping and have to wait to build the PC. The way I see it, I'm getting the 1050ti for the same price if I had gotten it cheaper online and had to pay the shipping cost.

heady turtle
keen nacelle
#

I personally don't see a point to changing from the 1650s, it might be overkill now but you'll maybe sell it for $20-30 more than you'll spend on a 1050 ti

heady turtle
#

Oh yeah if you have a 1650 I'd just use that

hasty sphinx
keen nacelle
#

Ah

#

I mean depending on what she plays, could just throw a 1030 in till she starts playing more demanding games

hasty sphinx
#

How much should a 1030 be going for?

random walrus
#

1030 is like 1/2 to 1/3 the perf of a 1050ti

#

and only 2gb vram

#

Depending on the PSU you could also get an rx 570

#

looks like they're a little cheaper than a 1050ti

fading glacier
#

like day and night

#

60ti have more cuda cores, more memory bandwidth and overall is a better card, like 20 to 30% better

#

check the pins on this channel for a rough comparison on gpus

summer condor
#

Id definitely go with a 2070s+ if you can spend it. Spending 100$ on a 1060 6b aint terrible but i wouldn't buy anything any less

#

Even a 5700xt is 300 or less right now at least on used market. I just sold mine for 250

#

And a 5700xt is double the performance of a 1060 6gb

#

YMMV on drivers but i never had a single issue with my card

summer condor
#

Oh nvm i read farther up.

fading glacier
#

lawl

summer condor
#

Yeah but 1060 6gb go for about 100-150 on fb market place so id definitely get one of those vs a 1050ti

fading glacier
#

he wants to get the cheapest one for his daugther

#

he dont want to give her a powerful card

#

so anything at 100usd is ok for her i guess

ivory herald
#

I simply suggest better/newer than 1050 ti. 1st pic to.explain a bit, 2nd pic for a laugh

modern yoke
#

Price to performance which is better 3060ti or 3070

ivory herald
#

At FE msrp or similar, 60 ti was.

modern yoke
#

I am talking about laptop gpu both running at 140watt max boost

vital oriole
#

3060ti laptops doesn't exist

#

And for your question, 3070 mobile is indeed faster than 3060

#

If at same wattage

#

Especially so at 140w

#

It's a big chunk faster than 3060

odd siren
vital oriole
#

damn

fading glacier
#

suprim or bust

#

too bad that suprim is a 240 aio ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

vapid bramble
languid hollow
#

I wonder how Intel Arc GPUs would perform in video editing softwares like Davinci Resolve? Would there be performance & support/compatibility issues?

keen nacelle
#

Obsessing over rgb to the point you're willing to spend $1200 on a mobo and won't consider a gpu because it lacks it is plain stupid

vapid bramble
odd siren
#

The lack of RGB sells me tbh lol

fading glacier
#

at least have some golden motiffs

#

thats something

odd siren
#

Imagine it with an Ace mobo

#

Now I've given myself some cringe KekW

fading glacier
#

on the golden fractal torrent case... the splave case

#

now we are talking

odd siren
#

Kekw

fading glacier
#

holy eff those 4090s are massive

#

derbauer seems like a child compared to them

rustic pulsar
#

omg it's so big

novel mountain
#

I have this server muted so please ping me if you have a response

Should I go with a 3080 12gb LHR or a Radeon 6900XT 16gb for a graphics card?

keen nacelle
lusty shell
novel mountain
marble plume
#

Depends what ur doing and what u care about

ivory herald
#

If you don't "need" dlss or care about things like Nvidia shadow play or w/e, 6900XT is a better overall value for sure.

autumn dune
lusty shell
#

Remember when GPU's were 1 or 2 slots? Pepperidge farm remembers.

celest thorn
keen nacelle
#

Happily

fading glacier
#

4080 is so far behind that is not worth the money... maybe at 1k

keen nacelle
fading glacier
#

pretty smart move

#

last gen the gap between 3080 and 3090 was so little that most gamers just ignored the 3090.... nvidia will not repeat that mistake twice

#

man, the suprim unboxing... beautiful

#

3090 was 10 to 12% better over the 3080 for almost double the price, while this time the 4090 is 70% more features (we don't know performance yet) for just a 33% increase on price

odd siren
#

Man that aorus is so big it could pass as a small child

fading glacier
#

yeah but, cant beat suprim looks

odd siren
#

Suprim could also pass as a newborn

fading glacier
#

nvidia claiming that the octopus adapter have some circuitry to detect the amount of connectors to feed the card

#

o.O

odd siren
#

Yeah that's the sense pins

#

Depending on how many of 4 depends on how much towards 600 you get

fading glacier
#

goood

#

i will plug only 3 then

odd siren
#

Yes it's really good

#

No more overburdening a psu

#

Now if we had this for the cpu too

#

Then systems would be a lot more robust

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But bare in mind this is for atx 3.0 devices

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ATX 2.0 PSUs don't care even with an adapter lol

fading glacier
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yup, we will be mimicking the feature with the octopus

odd siren
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Ya

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I'm hoping waterforce has a 1 to 4 adapter like zotac

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I like redundancy

fading glacier
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all of the 3090s will have a 4 to 1 adapter

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only the FE will be 1 to 3

odd siren
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Neat

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Ah so FE is pepega

fading glacier
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limited

odd siren
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Limited and binned

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Sadge

fading glacier
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yeah, kinda sad

odd siren
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There goes my plan b for phanteks block

fading glacier
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but aibs will go full ballz to the wall

odd siren
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Aibs also have one msrp sku each

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Forced

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So tuf is msrp

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Asus tax GON

misty wagon
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๐Ÿซฃ Hi there.

odd siren
fading glacier
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there is a tuf oc version as well

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for like 1750

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only the non oc is msrp

misty wagon
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:3 Im building my first pc soon. Adult legos time

odd siren
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Still

fading glacier
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and a strix non oc version for like 1800

odd siren
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Even non OC will be justified

misty wagon
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Still tryna pick out which gpu i want tho

fading glacier
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i mean.... oc version is a gimmick

odd siren
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That's just a case of lower level silicon

fading glacier
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all of them will boost higher than that

odd siren
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Ya

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Not really important imo

fading glacier
misty wagon
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max.... maybe 600 ?

fading glacier
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that could get him a 6800xt if im not mistaken.... right felix?

odd siren
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Depends on the psu

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So for 6800-ish you want a good 650W or decent 750W psu imo

misty wagon
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It was playing on going for 850

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panning

odd siren
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Unless you go for a big cpu

misty wagon
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i cant spell im sorry

fading glacier
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we get it no worries

odd siren
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Really depends on parts, do you have a pcpp list?

misty wagon
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i do i do

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i been revising it

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where post it ?

odd siren
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Here is fine cos it's gpu related

fading glacier
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well 850 is more than enough for a 6800xt

misty wagon
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theres a yeston gpu i wanted that matches the black and pink theme

fading glacier
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ooofff

misty wagon
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thing is it didnt have reviews on new egg

fading glacier
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we can work on that

misty wagon
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๐Ÿฅน

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im baby and need all the advice i can get

odd siren
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I am going to change 90% of that brb

misty wagon
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okkkkk

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i already have that mobo tho

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so like if its ok to work around with that

fading glacier
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this is my take

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lets wait for felix's pc

misty wagon
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๐Ÿฅน but, but, i cant return my mobo i have cos its been past return date

fading glacier
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oh, which pieces you already own?

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only mobo?

misty wagon
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the mobo so far ye

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i can work with anything revolving that

fading glacier
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then ill make some arrengaments

misty wagon
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thank u ! i appreciate you all !

odd siren
misty wagon
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OH THE PHANTEKS ECLIPSE

odd siren
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Wait how mp33 cheaper it came up like 150

misty wagon
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Im still deciding between the white one or the nezuko asus case

odd siren
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Fixed ssd

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Hey how much is the nezuko case

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Also what's it look like

fading glacier
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he cant change the mobo

misty wagon
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about the same as the p500

fading glacier
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he already have the z690

odd siren
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Wkek

misty wagon
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ye i already have it

fading glacier
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we can upgrade his cpu and his ram anyway

misty wagon
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yeyeye

fading glacier
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12600k and some 3600c16 kit

misty wagon
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๐Ÿ™‡โ€โ™€๏ธ sorry for the hassle

fading glacier
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no worries

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we love doing this

misty wagon
fading glacier
misty wagon
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i post the case in cases, felix

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wait nvm

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i cant post it :c i can dm it tho if u allow me to

fading glacier
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oh a gt301

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i mean a custom gt301

vital oriole
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gt301 is a decent case

fading glacier
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it is, yes

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yours is kinda.... pink

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๐Ÿ˜›

misty wagon
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uwu i like the build ravell put but its too dark

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need more rgb

odd siren
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I'm guessing it's not terribly expensive

misty wagon
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uwu a bit more than yours actually. but my board isnt wifi uwu

odd siren
fading glacier
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

odd siren
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3fast9u

fading glacier
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mine has rgb

odd siren
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Mine chep

odd siren
misty wagon
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oh is the nzxt kraken good

odd siren
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Although KF on air is a bit of a push

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No it's not

misty wagon
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if i wanted to do black and pink

odd siren
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Overpriced asetek rubbish

fading glacier
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use the lian li

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that i put on mine

misty wagon
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wat would be a good black one owo

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does lian li have black

odd siren
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Ek basic black is good

fading glacier
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or use

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the ls520

misty wagon
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oki lemme looksies

fading glacier
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ls520 uwu

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funny tho felix

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the 12600k is a bit cheaper now than the kf

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maybe deals

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but a free igpu is a free igpu ๐Ÿ˜›

misty wagon
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thats prettttty

odd siren
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Fair enough

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I'm at work booking tickets, working and zoomin in and out here but ye so far so good

fading glacier
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im going to steal your psu felix, yours is cheaper than mine

odd siren