graphics-cards

[magic wing]

I shall refer to the 4080 12 gb as the 4070ti that it is

[river grail]

still absurdly high imo

[magic wing]

nah

the 4080 16gb is 2-4x faster depending on workload

[river grail]

i mean im probably gonna just get a 4080 12 gbcuz my 2060 is bottlenecking tf out my pc

[magic wing]

what cpu

[river grail]

bad decision on my part 💀 but ryzen 3900x

[magic wing]

Ehhhh will be fine in most games at 1080p

[river grail]

yeah but like 5800x is so much better

in terms of price and performance

[hasty sphinx]

Tbh, id go for the 4080 16gb

[magic wing]

id rather have a 3900x to a 5800x personally

[hasty sphinx]

Myself however is going for the 4090 because that performance for the price is nice

[magic wing]

also the 5800x is trash value

[river grail]

whys that

[magic wing]

5700x so much better

[river grail]

i think that may be the one i was thinking of im not sure which one

[magic wing]

Great for code compile

[river grail]

oh

cuz of the cores

[magic wing]

I deal with like 200-300gb of source code on a daily basis

[river grail]

jeez

yeah i just game

what exactly are more cores beneficial for again?

keep forgetting

[magic wing]

multi threaded tasks

[river grail]

i5-12600k is pretty fire tho

in terms of gaming and multi thread

[hasty sphinx]

That it is. I like it. It does run a bit warm though.

[heady turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/movies-wow-owen-wilson-wow-wow-amazing-gif-16569229

Nah also pretty low chance of that happening i just got unlucky

Tut tut, filthy mouth on you

[odd siren]

I didn't even need to type a message and I get a reply

there are a buttload of factors, cooler design, board design, vrm efficiency, sample silicon

even to a great extent you could say sample>model>brand

yes after benchmarks we'll likely know which one seems to trend the best

[heady turtle]

I think sample is more to do with oc tbh

[odd siren]

nah, tolerances and contact varies with each sample

but I include that cos you get weird outliers like kids running a no frills vision or FE and having a most ridiculously binned GPU core doing some crazy offset

This coming FE has a 23 phase vrm @heady turtle

Strix has 24

FE might actually be overall better

heck of a showstopper moment if true

[wicked hound]

Reminder that FE usually doesnt allow aftermarket vBIOSes so PL will most likely be more limited then other AIBs

[heady turtle]

Can they actually limit that besides how they did it last gen with the atx 3.0 connector?

[brave violet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGARjRBJRX8

crazy

[livid idol]

jfc those look huge

[hasty sphinx]

The names are funny too lol

[heady turtle]

The one in the thumbnail looks pretty close to d.va

[wicked hound]

Doesnt usually have to do with connector, it's just that Nvidia doesnt allow crossflashing between AIB and FE

NVFlash locks out with an ID Mismatch and BIOS ROM chip is very different then the standard and cant easily be flashed with "normal" external tools

[hasty sphinx]

So we just gotta gang up on Escanor to get what we need to crossflash :P

[odd siren]

speaking of NVFlash, having a weird issue with my eagle rn

just noticed it's only peaking power at 340W not 370W like I flashed it to do

flashed it again with a different 370W vbios and DDU'd, still nothing

might try another vbios again, this time not a gaming oc

it like scales with the power slider to 345 (91%) then just stops scaling at all

also repasted the cpu with MX-4 and the results are poor

compared to my NT-H2

lost about 35W of cpu* power but it might be a bad mount

furmark got 355

361 superposition ok I fixed it

not seen 370 yet but I can tell it's not broken finally lol

yup %TDP readings are right, ok I'm good

just gonna remount the cpu now

[heady turtle]

That's big sad

[heady turtle]

Might not be able to use 370w, 340w is already 2x the factory tdp lol

[keen nacelle]

I thought tdp was 220?

[odd siren]

No it definitely can

It's been like that since like 2020 lol

And it is seeming to use it now

And the %TDP is reporting up to 370W correctly

[sturdy storm]

Reflashing an Nvidia card
How long would it usually take?

[heady turtle]

Like 2 mins

[heady turtle]

170 on the non xt iirc

I think he has 6600 anyway

Oh dam 132w tdp on the 6600

I was thinking of the xt dam

[keen nacelle]

Wait my dumb self read 370w and saw 3070

Lmao

[heady turtle]

@odd siren enlighten us

Lol

[sturdy storm]

Keep forgetting I have to press y a few times because I can't even see anything while it happens lol

[odd siren]

Eh what happening

[keen nacelle]

I be dumb

[odd siren]

Flashing vbios takes a couple minutes on either amd or nvidia

Well, 'flashing' you don't really on amd, not the core vbios anyway

[odd siren]

100+20 overclock at stock, but eagle did 250

[odd siren]

You should be able to see what you're doing

Are you doing this in safe mode?

Safe mode disables the gpu driver so you're using the standard windows display adapter

You should still be able to see what you're doing as a result

[heady turtle]

Tdp?

[odd siren]

6600 yes

[heady turtle]

100w stock tdp?

[odd siren]

Ye

[heady turtle]

Tpu says 132

Maybe that's max it can go

Stock

[odd siren]

Tpu wrong then unless XT

[heady turtle]

Nah i think tpu shows total tdp available

[odd siren]

You can add 20W on adrenalin

120W max on regular wattman settings

I believe that's also the same for a few other 6600's that I've seen

[heady turtle]

¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

Wtf

Why is some part of shrug getting deleted

[odd siren]

I mean it barely matters anyway, you can use MPT to set whatever

[heady turtle]

Aye

So you're 3x tdp already lol

[odd siren]

Ye

Wait no

Eagle 3080 my guy

[sturdy storm]

And it's blank

[odd siren]

Ah man

Do you have an igpu?

Yiu should plug into that and start the whole flash process again

[heady turtle]

Ohhhhh

[odd siren]

Ya I have 2 eagles

🦅

[heady turtle]

Weird I've never had it go blank for more than like 20 30 seconds while flashing

[odd siren]

I've never had it go blank at all

[heady turtle]

I cannot remember but I'm guestimating

[odd siren]

Lemme grab my tutorial vid I use

https://youtu.be/TsEK1-MBqdk

Welp 5% battery and the power's out

Time to hop off I guess

[sturdy storm]

nvm i got it flashed

for a minute it was blank but just replugging was okay

[odd siren]

power bacc

[sturdy storm]

is a GTX 960 or 1060 good?
at least for me who barely plays that many demanding games

[odd siren]

plenty for a lot of things

[livid idol]

1060 6gb is still fairly strong at 1080p

[sturdy storm]

also forgor that evga cards dipped 👋

[odd siren]

sort of getting on a bit tho

[sturdy storm]

I never really go over 1080 anyway

just need two things
1 - prices
2 - money
bonus: a job

[livid idol]

$100 and you're in https://www.ebay.com/itm/125525023641

Lots of them were used for mining, should still work perfect

[sturdy storm]

damn 118 dollar bin

that's a goddamn deal once i can get it

i have no luck there haha
things gonna be gone too fast

[sturdy storm]

Hey this card is not like "worn out" or anything from the mining it was used for, is it?

[vital oriole]

Mining doesn't actually wear gpus down much if you know a thing or two about taking care of em

But to me, that seems like a working card

[sturdy storm]

Same to me

did ask the seller in case as well

lol

I'd purchase if I could 😔

[wicked hound]

¯\⁠⁠⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠⁠/⁠¯
haha get wrecked

But also, need to do escape sequence stuff. ¯\\⁠⁠⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠⁠/⁠¯ cuz backslash is usually meant for special thing (normal examples: \n, \t, \r, \s, etc). In Discord backslash is used for smth to do with the opening bracket (

So need to escape it with two backslashes when next to opening bracket

[hasty sphinx]

Can we expect the prices of EVGA GPUs to raise in price?

Like older models and whatnot. I'm mainly thinking my basically new 1650s

[fading glacier]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i dont think any old gpu will raise in price, even less with the miner cards slowly moving to the used market

[heady turtle]

Ahh makes sense

[hasty sphinx]

alright, was a thought that crossed my mind for a sec because of EVGA now not making cards.

[fading glacier]

that doesnt mean those will go up in price 😛 just that the stock is on borrowed time

the "collector" aspect could emerge once the stock is gone for good

[heady turtle]

Yeah but that would be the flagships not a 1650

[fading glacier]

if anything in one year those 1650 could fall to 90usd

or lower

[languid hollow]

Hello. I would like to ask what pc component should I upgrade? My goal is to have a smooth playback of my video editor. Currently its only running at 3fps. What do you think is the bottleneck? Task Manager is showing that my GPU is only at 4%. I am using an integrated GPU from the Ryzen 5 3400G. Should I upgrade the RAM, CPU, or GPU?

[keen nacelle]

Add an ssd and a gpu

You'll have to check your power supply to see what gpu would be good for you

[languid hollow]

Why is it running at 4% only?

[keen nacelle]

Since it's an apu build it likely has too low of a psu to support a decent gpu, but can't hurt to check

Task manager often misreports usage

[languid hollow]

I see. So the cause of low fps in davinci is more likely by the GPU.

[fading glacier]

gpu also using a hard drive

your pc is hard capped on every aspect

[keen nacelle]

I'd take the side panel off to check what power supply is in the pc

[keen nacelle]

One thing at a time first, but yes

[fading glacier]

true

[languid hollow]

But if theres one component I should prioritize, it would be the gpu?

[keen nacelle]

What is your budget for the upgrade

[languid hollow]

I just need a decent upgrade for my basic video editing.

As much as possible only a gpu upgrade.

if power supply upgrade is needed then I will add it too.

[keen nacelle]

I would 100% add a small ssd for windows, mp33 512gb is normally $33

And then yes, a gpu

[languid hollow]

Ok.

[fading glacier]

you are in dire need of a better drive

[keen nacelle]

One sec

[languid hollow]

I will look into it also.

[keen nacelle]

I'll check what's good for ssds

[fading glacier]

to me replacing your hard drive for an ssd is more critical than the gpu at this time

as bacca said

[languid hollow]

I might use an ssd for my operating system.

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Brvqqs/team-mp33-512-gb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fp6512g0c101

An ssd for boot is the most basic thing for pcs now

It's what every pc should have. It is a HUGE difference

[languid hollow]

As long as the memory size is enough for the windows OS?

[keen nacelle]

For gpu, after finding out what your psu is, you will probably want a nvidia gpu. They're better for productivity

[languid hollow]

minimum 512?

[fading glacier]

you can easily go from 2fps to 8 just on the ssd alone

[keen nacelle]

250 is enough, but they tend to cost the same or very similar to 500gb ones

Hell 120 is enough, but same thing

[languid hollow]

Youre probably right.

[keen nacelle]

Do you know how to check psu?

[languid hollow]

I did researched about it long time ago.

i may have to read it agian.

[keen nacelle]

It's pretty easy, just take the side panel off of your pc and look for the psu

It'll likely be on the bottom left with a bunch of cables coming from it

And it'll say a number on the side, something in the hundreds

My guess is either 180, 230, 350 or 450

450 would be ideal, could manage with 350 with some gpus

[languid hollow]

I see.

Thanks for the inputs.

[keen nacelle]

I also forgot to ask

What country are you in?

[languid hollow]

currently in US.

[keen nacelle]

The mp33 suggestion might be moot if not in the US

Kk

[languid hollow]

👍

[muted slate]

https://tenor.com/view/rtx-4090-nvidia-6090-graphics-card-gif-26772756

[heady turtle]

Accurate

[wicked hound]

I wonder what next April Fools will be like from that dude that makes fake GPUs

[muted slate]

you mean this guy?
https://youtu.be/0frNP0qzxQc

[wicked hound]

ye

[toxic escarp]

ASRock Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Challenger D Video Card is this a good card for playing stuff like tarkov on

[fading glacier]

yes

[toxic escarp]

cool

[fading glacier]

ahead of his time... 18k cuda cores

and he made a better power solution than nvidia

seriously we need these kind of cards with their own supply cord to the outlet 😛

[heady turtle]

Yes but probably not the best choice, what country you in?

[toxic escarp]

u.s

im trying not to go over 350

[heady turtle]

Id go with this then
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/c3RYcf/powercolor-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12-gb-fighter-video-card-axrx-6700xt-12gbd6-3dh

[toxic escarp]

ight thx

[muted slate]

fr though
and the 4090 ti took up only 4 slots

and it has 8 gpus inside of it

magic

[heady turtle]

Or thjs
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xQQcCJ/msi-radeon-rx-6650-xt-8-gb-gaming-x-video-card-radeon-rx-6650-xt-gaming-x-8g

[toxic escarp]

@heady turtle is their a atx board thats white that you can find other than Gigabyte B660M AORUS Pro AX DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard this is a micro atx

[heady turtle]

micro atx is fine

[toxic escarp]

is their a difference with the sizes ?

or is it just size?

[heady turtle]

size

and few extra pcie slots on atx sometimes 6 sata instead of 4 or something

[fading glacier]

atx boards usually have more m2 slots, aside from that... size

[heady turtle]

sometimes atx and matx both have 2 slots so

[toxic escarp]

i only really need one slot so guess its fine

[fading glacier]

im torn between price and size on that regard.... my 5000x looks kinda goofy with a mobo that small 😛

even tho the full size give me 0 advantage for me

[soft zealot]

gtx 1070 or rx 6600(if you hunt bids)

[fading glacier]

he was talking about psu wattage xD

[keen nacelle]

^

[remote patrol]

sorry for a late reply but im from Croatia

[heady turtle]

Ahh then it's probably about right

[remote patrol]

👌🏼

[hot bough]

Anyone know if there will be a RTX 4090 TI?

I am curious.

[keen nacelle]

Not a clue

No leaks have been made for one

[hot bough]

What do you guys think performance difference would be if they did make one?

Curious because I heard the 4090 uses a cut-down ADA 102 chip.

[odd siren]

The pure raster is significantly faster iirc

On TSE

[ivory herald]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4090-ti.c3917

[odd siren]

Yes. The full die is like 18400

Ok Chillin 3fast5me kekw

[ivory herald]

Gotcha! Yea if anything was a titan tier card it's this one. 48GB & similar to the rtx 6000. Gonna be fun seeing 4k or 8k games and the 2x vram not doing much. What a beast.

[odd siren]

And binned clocks and 2x the price yeah?

Lmao

Ima call it before it happens, not worth it, even with an msrp of 2200

[rustic pulsar]

i wonder how much the 4090ti is gonna be, im saying msrp of $2199 USD

[hot bough]

MSRP was already announced for it?

Paperspeck wise, what kind of performance difference is it?

10%?

[odd siren]

I also thought 2200

[odd siren]

Yeah the difference is about 10% on paper but it also depends on power draw

[rustic pulsar]

3090ti was $1999 (I think), so i was thinking $2099 but that looks ugly so $2199

[odd siren]

The PCB design can still allow one more 12VHPWR connector

[hot bough]

Anyone know when the 4090 tie will release?

[odd siren]

So this is where that rumour which was supposedly debunked comes in, 800W with 1800 more cores

[odd siren]

It's not worth waiting for, unless you wanna wait until after RDNA 3 is released and fleshed out, then you'll probably see a 4090 Ti release date

Which would likely be somewhere early 2023

[hot bough]

nvm.

I was debating with myself as to if I wanted to get a 4090 ti for a true flagship collection but nope.

Not happening.

I think I will just collect non ti flagship gpus.

[odd siren]

4090 Ti is the new titan card

[hot bough]

By the way, does the TI stand for titan or Titanium?

[odd siren]

Titanium

Ti is the period table abbreviation

[hot bough]

Got it.

[odd siren]

Man if I had a 48GB card I'd be afraid of nothing in engineering

[hot bough]

Lmao true.

Man I am excited to know that the Strix 4090 is coming out on release.

[keen nacelle]

I actually did not know this

I never questioned what the ti stood for

[fading glacier]

really?

[odd siren]

Looking like it uses the same layout as the 3090 Ti strix LC

That's probably why lol

24+4 @ 70A

[fading glacier]

still not as over enginneered as before

fe is 22+2 i guess

[odd siren]

Ya cos it's the 3090 Ti strix vrm

This explains why we even have suprim early

[fading glacier]

yup

[odd siren]

FE is actually kinda looking decent rn

[fading glacier]

seems like old premium cards are today's normal cards

maybe the new premiums are not out yet

[hot bough]

Is that bad?

[odd siren]

It's not standout like the previous strix

[fading glacier]

you have no idea pal right?

at least research a little on the things you want to buy xD

[odd siren]

I mean both cards should be fine

[hot bough]

What I don't understand, is whether or not that's bad?

[odd siren]

But if it's just a copy paste pcb idk how well it'll be

[fading glacier]

e_e

[odd siren]

More vrm can be more better

[fading glacier]

yes

[odd siren]

Cleaner power signal

So more stable clocks

But it also depends on quality too

I'm looking at this like

[fading glacier]

much like mobos

[hot bough]

Would the FE card be better then the Strix card then?

[odd siren]

Well FE only has a couple less stages for probably 200-300 less

[fading glacier]

in a sense

at least on paper we dont know

[odd siren]

It's looking like it'll be the worthwhile one rn

I can't find the zotac pcb anywhere

But I saw that one was supposed to be better than expected

[wicked hound]

Full die is 18432 tho. 144SMs, 128 FP32 units per SM

[keen nacelle]

That's what escanor says

[fading glacier]

what felix means is that this time the strix cards arent that over engineered as before to justify the strix tax

[hot bough]

Got it.

[odd siren]

If the chips are binned far better? Sure

[keen nacelle]

Maybe they plan on an actual titan branded card?

[fading glacier]

which i dont think, nvidia will try to keep the best binned one for the fe cards

[odd siren]

I did say 18400

[hot bough]

Performance wise, which do you guys think be better? FE or Strix. Roughly that is as I know there aren't any reviews yet.

[fading glacier]

again

we dont know pal

[odd siren]

No idea yet

[keen nacelle]

Strix will be overpriced

[hot bough]

🧠 🌋

[odd siren]

Gamble on strix being slightly better for strix tax

[keen nacelle]

Fe will likely be ok

[wicked hound]

Ur missing .25 of an SM

[odd siren]

[keen nacelle]

There will likely be better models than fe that are cheaper than strix

[fading glacier]

strix will be expensive as always but this time it will be hard for them to justify any outrageous price

[odd siren]

I wanna see the waterforce cards

[fading glacier]

still on air the strix ones will probably be at the top of the cooling charts

on air

[keen nacelle]

Idk, well see

Who knows, maybe zotac will be the best

[fading glacier]

they tend to overengineer at every turn to charge you more

[hot bough]

Zotac?

[odd siren]

I'm really curious about waterforce cos the full gigglybite pcb is like 24+4 too

For 3090 ti

[fading glacier]

no, the strix

[odd siren]

Or maybe it's 22+4

[fading glacier]

i suggest you to buy the fe card if you really are pursuing this "collector" idea of yours on flagships cards

the strix dont seem much better from the fe this time

[hot bough]

Got it. If that's the case I think I will probably do that.

[odd siren]

Oh no full waterforce pcb is indeed 24+4

[fading glacier]

yeah so far there is no card above that

[odd siren]

Come on gigglyboot

I WANT TO SEE IT

[fading glacier]

those are either 22+2 or 24+4

[keen nacelle]

I like gigabyte cards, aside from their qc

Qc is absolute dog

[odd siren]

Can't disagree

[keen nacelle]

If they could fix that they'd be a contender for top few aibs

[odd siren]

Expecting all my capacitors to fall off but I'll love it anyway

https://videocardz.com/newz/gigabytes-rtx-4090-aorus-master-could-fit-four-mini-itx-cards-inside

[keen nacelle]

The cards definitely do look nicer this time round

[rustic pulsar]

where gonna need a pcie Titanium slot to support the weight

[hot bough]

That looks sick.

[odd siren]

Exclusive 4090 Ti addition

+$100

[rustic pulsar]

its gonne be like saggy

[odd siren]

e-leash

+$50

[fading glacier]

all of those are expected to come with a bracket or holder of some type to hold the weight, so... its covered

[hot bough]

I might have to abandon FE cards to get that gigglybyte card. It looks so good.

[odd siren]

It's also huge

[rustic pulsar]

evga elest on an nvidia card??!??!

[odd siren]

Like, enormous

[hot bough]

Surely the Fractal Torrent can fit it?

[fading glacier]

whats the point? you were going to water block them anyway..

[hot bough]

Fair.

But damn that looks good.

[fading glacier]

again? no point when you water block those

😛

[odd siren]

Probably will. Definitely the thicc cases do be fittin

[hot bough]

I know, I know.

[odd siren]

Hey if you're gonna waterblock these why get the basic strix lol

Get a strix LC or WB

They had one for ampere

Save yourself a few hundred

[hot bough]

https://tenor.com/view/extra-thicc-extra-thicc-thick-extra-thick-gif-21812607

[fading glacier]

but at the same time he wants to "collect" all the flagships cards... dont ask me why.... so the FE is the obvious choice both on performance and the collector side

[odd siren]

True

[fading glacier]

at least this gen

[odd siren]

You could probably afford a waterblock with the price difference to strix anyway

[hot bough]

True.

[odd siren]

EK already announced an FE one

And I like this one

[hot bough]

You know what, screw it. FE it is.

[fading glacier]

make up your mind pal

[hot bough]

link please. I wanna check it out.

[odd siren]

Good man, you save a few hundred with that

[hot bough]

Just did.

[fading glacier]

a few lines above you were dripping on a 4090ti now....

like? why?

[odd siren]

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-quantum-vector2-fe-rtx-4090-d-rgb-nickel-plexi

[hot bough]

Flagship collector is what I want to be but with how much the ti will cost and when it releases, it makes it a no go for me.'

And just to be clear. I am fully aware these GPUs are all liabilities. Not assets.

[odd siren]

[fading glacier]

they are calling to you felix

you know you want them

[hot bough]

Those look sick....

[hot bough]

https://tenor.com/view/sanji-one-piece-love-heart-gif-22952009

[odd siren]

I really do tbh

[hot bough]

I wanna know what it'd look like with graphene.

[odd siren]

I expect heatkiller to do better but ooo

[fading glacier]

probably

im inclined to the same boat.... hope amd will make a good come back

[odd siren]

But also if the xtreme waterforce aio looks good enough I won't bother

[fading glacier]

and to kill the aesthetics on your build hmmmm

[odd siren]

Me lazy

[fading glacier]

im goin to mount a 4090 on a 4770k system

😛

[hot bough]

Oh g0d.... I just realized shipping might cost me $200.

[hot bough]

.......

Why, just why!

[fading glacier]

not everyone have that big budget as you

[hot bough]

Even so.....

[odd siren]

I could stick the 4090 in an 8400F system

[fading glacier]

need to think and research my options very well

[odd siren]

See what happens at 4K

[hot bough]

That sounds like such a big bottleneck.

[fading glacier]

nel

[hot bough]

But I suppose you can always upgrade down the line.

[fading glacier]

yes

[odd siren]

7700K still isn't bottlenecked by a 3090 at 4K

Only IPC difference

[fading glacier]

if i end up buying a 4090 i will end with a budget fo 300 for a pc

😛

[hot bough]

That's fine.

You can always upgrade later.

[fading glacier]

thats the idea

[odd siren]

13100

[fading glacier]

most likely

[hot bough]

👍

[fading glacier]

or i can buy a a good 13600k system on ddr5 if i go the 4080 16gig route

dunno, i will regret that gpu later

amd is the last bastion now

[hot bough]

team red huh.....

Just messin with ya.

[fading glacier]

it all boils down to price to performance ratio

if somehow the 7900xt end within a 10% or less difference of the 4090 at 1200-1300 range....

eff it nvidia

[odd siren]

Rdna 3 should leak a benchmark by now

[hot bough]

I am praying that the 4090 can handle Halo Infinite @4k 144hz max settings with a 1080p or 1440p recording going on at the same time.

[fading glacier]

wat?

you dont need 1440p for recroding

[wicked hound]

I mean kinda, forces streaming services to use higher bitrate

[fading glacier]

and you can stream/record at the same time even on the 30 series without loss on performance

the nvenc is handled by another chip

[odd siren]

Can always use an external capture device to handle it

[fading glacier]

yes

[hot bough]

Strange.

[odd siren]

Tho 4k 144 is a stretch

[hot bough]

Mine dips in performance when recording.

[odd siren]

4k 120 maybe soon ™️

[fading glacier]

again you need to research a lot more into things you are about to buy

[hot bough]

If I can get 100-120 while playing, that's perfectly doable.

[fading glacier]

e_e

[hot bough]

Anything below 90 feels laggy for me nowadays.

[fading glacier]

it is

[odd siren]

I meant the capture card

[hot bough]

Oh I thought you meant performance on the game like FPS.

[odd siren]

4090 already looks to be 90fps+ at 4K

[hot bough]

Sorry I am mixing chats up.

[odd siren]

Not factoring dlss 3

[hot bough]

That's good.

[fading glacier]

dp 1.2 is 4k 240hz right? or 4k 120?

cant remember rn

[odd siren]

Dp 1.4

[hot bough]

4k @144 to my knowledge.

[cerulean rover]

1.2 might be 4k120, 1.4 does more

[fading glacier]

you get the idea

[odd siren]

Dp 2.0 not on these cards ye?

[fading glacier]

no

thats a big letdown xD

[odd siren]

Kekw why overclock when I'm at the limit anyway

[fading glacier]

yes

[hot bough]

There's a 2.0?

[fading glacier]

it is

[cerulean rover]

Because Nvidia wants you to use dlaa

[odd siren]

DL AAAA

[fading glacier]

nvidia knows that their cards cant do 8k at 60hz... 😛

[odd siren]

Deep Learning Ahhh omg

[fading glacier]

so why bother with 2.0

[cerulean rover]

1440p360hz

[odd siren]

If you can do 4K 144 you're probably gonna do some 8K 60

[cerulean rover]

Because someone is going to do that

I know it

[fading glacier]

not like 8k is 2x 4k

[hot bough]

........ Who even owns a 8k monitor.

[odd siren]

I reckon this new gen is gonna bring 1440p to the baseline

1080p ded

[fading glacier]

we are almost at that point

[cerulean rover]

Maybe not dead but not optimal

[odd siren]

Definitely close

[fading glacier]

a 1440p monitor is almost a better deal these days

[odd siren]

On 60 class cards you can get some pretty high fps rn

At 1080

[cerulean rover]

Yea like 250$ vs 180$ getting real close

[fading glacier]

but cards need to be more affordable for that to happen

instead nvidia took the more expensive route

[odd siren]

Yeah if we consider next gen by the rule of thumb as ≈ 3070 it's just about time for 1080p to die

[odd siren]

4060 gonna be stanks

[fading glacier]

5060 at 900usd next gen

👍

[odd siren]

We're about to head into an era where pixel density might become a meme

Omg

[fading glacier]

cant believe jensen said that

no wonder evga jumped out of the nvidia bus for good

[odd siren]

Meh

That same article also showed how 4090 is actually cheaper after inflation

[wicked hound]

Wonder how low end it'll be. The 4080.12 is already a modern mid end card, so yeet yeet. Wonder if they'll just do 4050/4060/4070 and ignore Ti or "VRAM" variations

[odd siren]

You mean 4070

I am with everyone else on that one, it's a renamed 4070

[wicked hound]

More like 4060Ti semi Super

[odd siren]

Kekw

4060 next I guess

4070 rip?

[wicked hound]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/903768190717411339/1022559304563294269/unknown.png?width=660&height=908

Straight up mid end category

[fading glacier]

4080 16gigs is more like a 4070, while the other is a 4060ti masked

[wicked hound]

Also found out that 3080 was a blessing on release

Took too long to lower in price like other generations (reasons lol), but it was pretty high in perf given it was a xx80 card

[odd siren]

4090 is more like a 4080 tbh when you look at the full die comparison

[wicked hound]

4080 semi Ti

[odd siren]

Which is actually painful

[fading glacier]

im pretty sure on that gap they will release a 16gb version of the 4090

no way that gap could be filled by the 80ti only

is way to big

[odd siren]

4090 Ti straight up feeling like a 2080Ti rn

Smh nvidiAH

[sturdy storm]

yeah okay 1060 was sold need another one to watch over lol

nvm he sells the same series for essentially the same price lmao

[silent jay]

Ummmmm..... wut?

[ivory herald]

At least the 2080ti wasn't over $1k-ish. (Msrp, not bs covid or scalp price)

[silent jay]

So, here's my (not so popular, devil's advocate) viewpoint on Ada:

1. It includes new tech that makes it a very worthwhile buy, and that tech will only improve with time, thus improving Ada's performance further.
2. If you compare the cards Ada replaces, Ada actually ends up being a good deal.
3. The 4080 12GB beats a 3090 Ti @ $899. So while a bit shady that it isn't the 4070 Ti, (which it should/would have been), is not technically overpriced unless you exclude the deluge of used mining cards that have flooded the used market. So new MSRP to performance wise, it's a fine deal.

[fading glacier]

problem is, no founder edition on the 12gb versions, so the aibs will run wild on that

4080s at 1k or more most likely

but you are right, overall is a better deal over the 3090

[silent jay]

We don't exert control over the AIBs directly like that... so they are technically free to do so.

[fading glacier]

the more time it pass the better for the drivers to mature the card features

[odd siren]

Meant that in context of the amount of die used

[sturdy storm]

goddamn waiting for the deposit so I can buy the card ae

[silent jay]

It's not that large a die.... I mean, it is huge, but not some mammoth monstrosity.

[fading glacier]

just the cooler

😛

[odd siren]

No I mean

2080 TI uses like 97% of the die

4090 Ti will be that or full titan full die

Meanwhile 4090 using a 3080 10gb's sorta percentage, lots of headroom

[silent jay]

Oh, I see what you're saying now. Yes, the 4090 Ti or TITAN will be a full-fledged AD-102.

[odd siren]

Ya

It'll likely be more than 10 or 15% improvement too, if we consider the scale of difference, especially if they yeet power

There's still a whole extra 12VHPWR not being used yet

[silent jay]

lol, it's a fair bit more than that. 😛

[odd siren]

I've seen a TSE run, I believe it

Still, can never say anything with 100% confidence in the pc space kekw

[fading glacier]

1200+ watts of raw power on th 90ti? 😄

[silent jay]

Nope, it'll depend on what AMD releases

[odd siren]

Jensen hiding his trump card in his jacket rn

[fading glacier]

in the oven

[odd siren]

||It was another jacket||

[fading glacier]

if the 7900xt or 7950xt is within striking range of the 4090 then it probably release the ti

if not i doubt that monster will be unleashed

imagine an 800w monster on the loose?

[odd siren]

It can still be released regardless

[fading glacier]

the 3090ti was a disaster

[normal hawk]

Is it time to upgrade yet

not me

my brother has a 5700xt

gpu market okay?

lol

[fading glacier]

depends on your budget target for a card

above 800usd you should wait

below 800 the market is pretty good rn

[normal hawk]

He might get a 3070.

will probably wait to see if they do a bundle with a monitor again

[sturdy storm]

What PSU output is recommended for a GeForce GTX 1060 6GB

I have a 600W in

[vital oriole]

600w is enough

[sturdy storm]

Oh perfect

I have a tiny el wiwi 1060 coming in so yeah just needed info lol

[velvet grail]

@heady turtle does ddu work for devices like network adapters other than graphics cards?

[heady turtle]

Gpu and audio afaik

[velvet grail]

K

[quartz gull]

🤔

Should I go for this for a gift for a friend? Seems okay value

[heady turtle]

Damm can i be your friend?

[quartz gull]

Its like 2 days of wages it isn't that much

He's been trying to get a decent priced GPU for like 7 months now for a build that's been just sitting their aging

He wants a 3070 for $400 but struggling to find one

[heady turtle]

But also you can get this 3080 for close to that price new (if you buy other stuff with the 200$ gift card)

https://www.newegg.com/yeston-geforce-rtx-3080-rtx3080-10g-d6x-ya/p/1FT-007N-00071

[heady turtle]

Umm you can get a 6750xt for like 420 brand new?

So a used 3070 for 400 is pretty bad

[hasty sphinx]

Ew TUF 3080

[quartz gull]

He's an Nvidia diehard

Used 6800xt around here are $450-500

[hasty sphinx]

If you like cards that determine their own fan curve even when you try to set your own.. thats the card to get.

[heady turtle]

That's dumb , 3070 is only a better choice if they always use rt

Especially if you're buying it for them lol

[hasty sphinx]

I'm an nvidia diehard.

I tried to shill amd.

[quartz gull]

He claims his current amd GPUs has a lot of issues but I looked and he's still rocking a 7750

And he doesn't know I'm buying for him

[hasty sphinx]

Ime.. amd has a lot of issues

[heady turtle]

You had very bad luck with some gpus tbf

[hasty sphinx]

I'll help defend you against Patos amd shilling

[heady turtle]

NO FREAKING WONDER

[quartz gull]

Yeah LOL

[heady turtle]

Bruh that's like a 10 year old card

[hasty sphinx]

Sheesh

[quartz gull]

that was the really buggy Radeon era too

His CPU is an i7 3770

[heady turtle]

Yeah

Bruuhhhhhh

[hasty sphinx]

That era hasn't come to an end

[quartz gull]

He has a 5600x brand new in box that has been sitting in box for 7 months

With new motherboard too

[heady turtle]

WHY

[hasty sphinx]

He needs to send that to me.

I need it for research purposes. He doesn't need it.

[quartz gull]

Says he won't plug in his 7750 into anything else because it'll "ruin it"

[hasty sphinx]

I am on board with this

[quartz gull]

He's terrified of his GPU it's kinda funny

[heady turtle]

Just no

[quartz gull]

His PSU is proprietary though so he's shopping for a new one

Yay for Dell Inspiron nonsense

[heady turtle]

Ahh

[hasty sphinx]

Btw.. along with pato.. can I be your friend?

[quartz gull]

Y'all really wouldn't buy your friends a GPU

[heady turtle]

Uhh not for 500$

That's a lot of moneys

[quartz gull]

Idek if that's a lot

I guess in other places it may be a lot

[heady turtle]

Nah that's a lot man

That's 50 hours of minimum wage work

[heady turtle]

As for psu if going new I'd grab this
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/W4Tp99/gigabyte-ud750gm-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-gp-ud750gm

[keen nacelle]

I might spend like $150-200 on a gpu for a friend

Not $500

[quartz gull]

Ah yes, a fire hazard

[quartz gull]

Also do people buy used power supplies???

I would never ever ever entertain the idea of a used PSU. Sounds like a bad idea

[heady turtle]

Yes ofc

Why not

As long as good model etc

[heady turtle]

This ones b tier

[quartz gull]

Problem is vetting that the person you're buying from is being honest

GPU? If that's going out it'll suck

PSU, say goodbye to your whole build

[scenic cypress]

with 40 series announced, when do you think 30 series prices will drop

[heady turtle]

Used yeah new not for a while till they release something cheaper since 3080 12gbs are already 740$ for good models

[scenic cypress]

i was just gonna get a 3060ti

all i really need

is getting used a good idea? never really liked the sound of it but...

if its much cheaper ill probably just do that

[vocal current]

So with the amd gpu msrp cuts will the prices go down further or do you think they will stay the same for awhile

[keen nacelle]

If you have a best buy, 3060 ti for $400 is nice

Otherwise 6700xt is $370 new consistently

If you're in the US anyways

[scenic cypress]

im hoping to see them go below 400

ill snatch one for $380

thats not gonna happen though

[keen nacelle]

Wouldn't surprise me if you see them for $300 used

[scenic cypress]

maybe black friday will have some sweet deals

yeah theres a 3 fan msi card that sold for $315...

[fading glacier]

jensen already said that the prices on the 30 series will not fall further, so no... your best bet is the used market if you want a deal

[vital oriole]

^

[fading glacier]

and dont put your faith in the black friday... they tend to up the prices to make a "deal" that day...

[heady turtle]

Or few generation old products

[fading glacier]

Pinned messages in this channel pal 😀

[keen nacelle]

Ghost ping moment

[normal hawk]

No u

[heady turtle]

?

[fading glacier]

i swear i saw someone asking for a comparison between the 6750xtr and a 3070 o.O

maybe he deleted the line

[fading glacier]

[cursive otter]

I promised all of my nerd buddies a Threadripper if I won the lottery lol

[heady turtle]

Terrible for gaming btw

[gloomy nova]

Not terrible, just a waste

[heady turtle]

Terrible choice

[cursive otter]

whats the best AMD processor for gaming?

I have a 5800x just not the 3D one .

[heady turtle]

5800x3d

[cursive otter]

right on. 5800x3d it is 😄 -takes note-

[heady turtle]

Although if you one the lotto you might as well just fork up for a 13900k and new mobo

[gloomy nova]

What if you need a workstation and gaming rig?

[heady turtle]

yeah maybe then but very slim margin of ppl

[toxic sinew]

Depends on what applications you are running for a workstation.

[wooden helm]

Ive been wanting to upgrade and found a 6750xt for $399 it that worth it or just wait for new gpus to come out upgrading is going to be a big jump for me since im still running a rx 560

[normal hawk]

For budget GPU's you'd be waiting at least 2-3 more months probably. NVidia didn't announce any and who knows which ones AMD will have in November.

If you're struggling now, go for it.

[wooden helm]

Well originally I was looking for a Nvidia card like a 3070 but they are so over priced cost well over 100 dollars more than amd with the same performance

[heady turtle]

What model and are you talking new or used because you can definitely buy ones new for 420

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4RrRsY/xfx-radeon-rx-6750-xt-12-gb-speedster-qick-319-core-video-card-rx-675xyjfdp

[idle idol]

will the RTX 4090 consume more power? or the same as a RTX 3090 or 3090 ti power consumption?

ah nvm, 4090 will consume 100 watts more then the 3090.

[brisk flame]

you couldnt tell by the sheer cooler size?

damn thing sucks power

[idle idol]

I have a feeling that we are going to need more powerful PSU's soon.

For these types of Graphics Card heading up in the future.

[normal hawk]

External power bricks for GPU's

They're gonna ship GPU's with a 650watt psu with only GPU connectors that you plug into the back of your GPU.

[velvet bloom]

how do i undervolt/power limit my laptop GPU

my computer is overheating and some games are getting more fps then others and my computers is a msi

[fading glacier]

you have a feeling? its already happening... new atx3.0 psus start at 850w

[livid idol]

Stock behavior will, yes, but it can go up to (possibly past) 600W when overclocking with a new gen PSU

[idle idol]

Jesus

[livid idol]

It's also been seen to spike up to 660W at the default 450W power limit also

So you really should get a new PSU if you plan on a 4090

[fading glacier]

a 1000watts at least

[livid idol]

1200 if you also use a high end cpu

13900k might use even more power than 12900k, imagine 400W on CPU plus 650W on GPU

[fading glacier]

well to reach that high you need ln2 basically

cant see past 320w even with the best 360aio

also imagine owning a 13900k on a 650w psu xD

all the budget on the cpu

much like what i'll try to do xD a 4090 on a 4770k.... all the budget on da beast

[livid idol]

At least you won't need to worry about using the full power on the gpu since you'll be cpu bound all the time lol

[fading glacier]

:V :V :V imagine a 4090 on pcie2

[random zinc]

Pcie 4.0 x 1 imagine

[livid idol]

PCIe 2.0 x16 is roughly equal to 4.0 x4

And the x4 limit hurts even current GPUs

Let alone next gen flagship

[fading glacier]

for now my final call relies on amd

if the 6900xt delivers, ok

ill have budget for the whole system

if not, 4090 on my old haswell

eff it

and ill buy the rest of the part later

[normal hawk]

I'll put a 6900xt on my fx 6300

[livid idol]

https://tenor.com/view/patrickpain-patricksomuchpain-patrickfleas-spongebobpain-spongebobsomuchpain-gif-18151897

[wooden helm]

No it’s new one $409 with rebate just wondering if it’s worth to buy one

[fading glacier]

ill take some pictures if that happens for you to enjoy

i should use the ada chip as a cpu as well hahahaha

[deft isle]

can someone please help me with my gpu drivers

[fading glacier]

!ddu

[dreamy dragon]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[charred kernel]

So I have a Asus Prime z690-a and a gigabyte 3090 ti.

When booting the led on the motherboard indicates an error with the VGA. We tried switching from bios OC to silent via the slider, made sure it is seated properly and checked power(1 direct 8-8 pin cable and 1 cable with two 8 pin outputs).

Can someone guide how do I troubleshoot this issue?

[vital oriole]

The 3090ti needs every 8 pin cables to be 8 pin only, no splitter

All 3 must be 8 to 8, not 8 to 8 x2

[charred kernel]

Yeah so now we tried. 2 x 8 to 8 and one 8 to 16 but only one 8 pin is connected.

[charred kernel]

And it's still the same.

[vital oriole]

Hm, what's your PSU brand and model?

[charred kernel]

EVGA p6 1000 watts platinum.

[vital oriole]

Alright, hmn. Maybe try another pcie slot on the motherboard?

Does the gpu turn on at all?

[charred kernel]

Nope no fans, no rgb LEDs, no whine.

[charred kernel]

The other slot is too low in the motherboard, the GPU won't be able to slot in there.

[vital oriole]

I'm suspecting it's either the gpu itself or psu

[livid idol]

What CPU did you have?

[charred kernel]

12700k

[livid idol]

Take out the GPU and plug the monitor into the motherboard

[charred kernel]

So I tried putting in a EVGA ftw3 3080. And the light on the GPU where the cables are connected. The led lights up for the two direct 8 to 8 cables but not for the 8 to 16 cable.

[livid idol]

If it boots without the GPU try updating bios

[charred kernel]

Yeah we tried and it's posts properly, can get into BIOS

[charred kernel]

The PSU came with only two direct 8 to 8 cables.

[vital oriole]

The 8 to 16 cable needs two 8 pins I believe

Hence there's no power to the adapter

[charred kernel]

Woah the 3080 booted, it seems the wiring was wrong.

[vital oriole]

Nice

Now try it with 3090ti

[heady turtle]

Yeah as long as it's not msi mech or asrock challenger for that price

[odd siren]

omg

the next-gen amd reference is gorgeous

[heady turtle]

Sned pics

[hasty sphinx]

I wanna see

[heady turtle]

He sent them in dms, too gorgeous for server xD

[hot bough]

Is +175 core and +900 mem stable within 68c on my RTX 3070 good?

[keen nacelle]

Decent, can likely go higher on mem

If the bin is good might be able to go higher on core, you doing a bench after each time you change the oc?

[hot bough]

Sort of. Running Halo Infinite to test for stability on high settings.

[keen nacelle]

I'd do a benchmark

[hot bough]

My card can reach 190 core however the games then sometimes freeze.

So I dropped it to 170.

My GPU when underload is currently doing 2,100mhz on Core and 7900 on memory on.

[heady turtle]

I was able to do +1250 on mine iirc

For mem

Keep going higher on mem til you loose timespy score

[hot bough]

Got it. Will try that in a bit.

What does increasing memory clocks do?

Like performance wise what does ti affect.

Is it like ram?

[livid idol]

Very similar to system ram yes. Increasing the clock lets it use more bandwidth to access more data faster to be worked on.

Some games like it, others don't care

[hot bough]

Got it.

I just tried +1100 mem clock.

Running stable.

Gonna try upping it after anotheer 10m.

[fading glacier]

[hot bough]

?

[fading glacier]

nothing just enjoying the chat

[hot bough]

Is 2.1ghz bad or good on a 3070?

[fading glacier]

if its stable, go ahead

[hot bough]

That's what I currently have.

So I was curious.

[fading glacier]

on normal ocing there are no risks

at some point your card will crash and thats it

[hot bough]

I know.

Was just trying to figure out whether or not I have a good 3070 or mediocre one.

[fading glacier]

im a simple man, if it runs my games at the advertised fps, then its ok to me

😛

good or mediocre... still a 3070 😛

[hot bough]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-got-it-positive-i-got-you-gif-16884319

Any updates on 13th gen?

[fading glacier]

maybe ill enrage the oc'ers around here but for me, overclocking is just for running benchmarks and flexin than real use

i dont see the point to strees my silicon for some 5-7 more fps, unless im at the absolute top end

should buy the next tier card instead 😛

anyway, ill keep enjoying the chat in silence

[livid idol]

Nothing new this week I saw

[timid vine]

Poggers

[fading glacier]

what kind of toy is that?

[timid vine]

A380

[hot bough]

I squeezed out an extra 30fps.

[fading glacier]

well, there you have it. i stand corrected

[ivory herald]

Depends highly on game & gfx quality, haha. If I did nothing besides "2100" mhz core, it's literally only a 5% oc give or take

[livid idol]

Some games you can get 10-15% more fps from memory OC

Which memory (GPU or system) varies by game

[hot bough]

Got it.

[timid vine]

update, its dead

[normal hawk]

No way lol

Whatd you do

[timid vine]

updated drivers and vcore died

[livid idol]

RIP

Add that to the driver issues GN found lol

[wicked hound]

inb4 cant get RMA cuz you overvolted and killed it yourself

[patent latch]

Apparently you can order 4090s already-

[livid idol]

Where? That's either a scam or a mistake

[ivory herald]

Still got around 2 and 1/2 weeks before actual release.

[patent latch]

Sellers form Alibaba.com. If I had tons of money I would buy them. But I think I rather just wait for them to come into stock over on Newegg- They are asking 2.5k a pice-

[fading glacier]

must be scams

[livid idol]

Yeah that's a scam

They have even less standards for sellers than Amazon

[patent latch]

Check out this product on Alibaba App Pre-order new 4090 graphics card Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 Gaming OC Fast delivery https://m.alibaba.com/product/1600619238043/Pre-order-new-4090-graphics-card.html?__sceneInfo={"type":"appDetailShare","data":{"filterKey":"7.8.2_share","cacheTime":"1800000"}}&from=IOS

If you are interested in the listing

[livid idol]

There's a bunch of "4090" listings on that site and every one is a scam

They couldn't be more obvious too

[patent latch]

That’s 100% Legit. Just like get in a new Gtx 1050 ti for $25 from wish.

[livid idol]

Oh there's even one for a 5090

[patent latch]

And nivida has been trying to sell the old 3090’s they have been lying to us. However, they are probably working on a 5090 currently but still.

[livid idol]

5090 is still in concept stages, not even started on the engineering yet

[patent latch]

Who needs leaks from Twitter users or other websites when you have Alibaba.com.

[vital oriole]

alibaba is only for very late stages lol

like when an engineering sample comes out

[rustic pulsar]

it gets better.

[rustic pulsar]

pcie 3.0
video memory speed of 1 ns

[charred kernel]

Yes, it worked. Thank you so much!

[vital oriole]

grats you got it working

[random zinc]

Gddr 5 lol

[heady turtle]

With gddr6 you might loose performance and it still look stable at higher clocks cuz it has error correction so that's why you need to keep an eye on the timespy gpu score

[odd siren]

does 6 also have it? I thought it was 6x

[vital oriole]

yes

on some cards

[torpid garden]

This applies to gpu mem oc in general - but as pato says, is most noticeable on the g6x

[livid idol]

Or not noticeable, when you get people that just hit +1500 in afterburner and think "oh it didn't crash, it must be fine"

[steep hedge]

Hey curious if someone can help me. I think I have a bottleneck somewhere thats limiting my gpu usage.

specs are i7-10700k, asus strix z-490e, asus strix 3080, 32 gigs ddr4 ram

[solemn panther]

There will always be a bottleneck

What's the frequency on that ram?

[livid idol]

And what makes you think the GPU is bottlenecked? What game?

[solemn panther]

I don't see anything major from what you described

It could be the game for sure

[steep hedge]

it's gta 5 which is an older game and the freq is 3200mhz

like i can barely keep at 60fps

[solemn panther]

Ram is fine...

Lol

[steep hedge]

which is crazy lol

[solemn panther]

Are you sure the game is not capped at 60 FPS in settings?

Is V-Sync on?

[steep hedge]

no i turned it off i mean i have a 120hz monitor i would like to get to that speed or at least somewhere close and with an older game even one that is a little more intense it seems crazy that i can't even get to that

[livid idol]

GTA V is terribly optimized, it's pretty CPU bound

So yeah you won't be seeing 100% GPU usage in that game

[steep hedge]

i even undervolted my cpu slightly incase there was issues with thermal throttling but on load it's about 70ish

[steep hedge]

what about cyberpunk. Can barely get 60 on that one either. I realize it's a newer game but my hardware is newish too lol

[livid idol]

That one is a full system use game, and pretty sensitive to memory speed iirc so it would like 3600c16 or better probably

[heady turtle]

Gta 5 gets terribly choppy above 160fps or something around that

[livid idol]

Run hwinfo while you play and see what's being used and what's not

[solemn panther]

That doesn't explain why he can't get more than 60fps

[livid idol]

Cyberpunk on ultra will definitely not get a steady 60

[heady turtle]

What latency though? It could be jedec ram ( 3200 cl22 instead of c16 ( xmp latencies))

Jedecs a lot slower

[livid idol]

Is XMP even on is another question

[heady turtle]

True i didn't read that down yet

Well they said it was at 3200mhz

I've never seen a kit for 3200c16 actually jedec at 3200c22

Usually 2133 or 2666

[livid idol]

I have

[solemn panther]

Is your monitor set to the highest refresh rate?@steep hedge

[heady turtle]

Interesting okay

[steep hedge]

yeah it's set to 120hz

[dreamy dragon]

NeuroticNinjahh#4742 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[steep hedge]

i keep forgetting sorry

sorry mods lol

As I was saying I need to check in the BIOS for xmp but I could use the crappy asus tool as well

[livid idol]

hwinfo can tell you too

[steep hedge]

I need to look into that is that like cpu-z

[solemn panther]

Go check Nvidia control panel and see if V-Sync is on?

[livid idol]

It's a system resource monitoring tool

[steep hedge]

I have g-sync but yes it's on

[solemn panther]

Hhmmm

There's a shift+enter command. Tell me what you see

While you're in game

[steep hedge]

ok let me jump on and eheck

[steep hedge]

xmp is on

[solemn panther]

Try it in the menu that pops up

Should disable VSync and FPS lock

[steep hedge]

Doesn’t disabling it cause screen tearing though

[solemn panther]

Slight

You barely notice unless you're really looking for it

So shift+enter,a menu should pop up

[steep hedge]

Shift+enter isn’t working

[solemn panther]

Where are you?

[steep hedge]

In gta 5

[solemn panther]

In game or on the main menu?

[steep hedge]

In game

Should I be in the menu to try it

I can go to settings and turn it off

[solemn panther]

Try it

[steep hedge]

Yeah it’s off

What menu does holding shift+enter open anyway. Is it just the settings menu on the game?

[solemn panther]

Did you see anything happen?

[orchid loom]

people cant even get 60 with a 3090 ti

[solemn panther]

Not helping, Kenzie

[orchid loom]

well

just bc its newer tech doesnt mean its gunna work

its based on how optimized the game is

i mean you can always enable DLSS but raw FPS you arnt gunna get over 60

[steep hedge]

Ive actually seen it though

[orchid loom]

[steep hedge]

Dubstepz, and bang4buckpc gamer

[orchid loom]

depends how there settings are

[steep hedge]

Digitaldreams as well

Actually no you are right they are averaging about 50 fps

My bad

But that still doesn’t explain how I cant’ average 60 fps with gta 5 on my rig even if it is cpu bound lol

[solemn panther]

@steep hedge ok. Go to settings and scroll down till you see MSAA and turn it off. See what happens

[orchid loom]

also check advanced settings or what ever the tab menu is and see if the game turned on Frame scale

[steep hedge]

No that’s off I tried to mess with that a while back and wanted to see what 2x would do and my game just basically said nope

[steep hedge]

Msaa is off gave me like an extra 2 or so avg

[solemn panther]

Lmao

[orchid loom]

yea i turned it on when i had a 3090 got like 30fps DONT TURN that on keep it off

[solemn panther]

Are you sure you applied it?

[steep hedge]

Yes I wanted to see what boundaries I could push it too after going from a 1080ti to a 3080 lol

[orchid loom]

lol

[steep hedge]

Yeah even restarted it

Like my video memory is saying I should be using 2gb of the 11 I have so I don’t think it’s my gpu like in all honesty

What about FXAA

[solemn panther]

It's the damn game 😤

One sec

[steep hedge]

I have NVE but honestly its not supposed to be super fps stingy

[orchid loom]

JP chill lets breeathe in and out

@steep hedge are your gpu drivers up to date

[steep hedge]

Yeah

[orchid loom]

okay

[steep hedge]

That was like the first thing I checked

And nothing is overclocked either I put it all back to stock after I had a scare

What’s even crazier is I fiddled around with frame scaling mode just now and it’s at .500 so not even a full 1x and now im finally at like 70 fps but like I should be pushing 100+

[orchid loom]

Frame scale dont mess with that it just ups your res to high res i heard

[steep hedge]

It’s just downscaling essentially

Like I know what most of these things do just not sure why the frames are so darn bad