graphics-cards

[keen nacelle]

Ah mb

[odd siren]

Not 100% sure I have a couple of their risers

[keen nacelle]

But still, point stands

[odd siren]

But if it runs gen 4 then it's def the one

[fading glacier]

that the original from the diy bracket?

😮

[odd siren]

ya

if I end up resetting cmos then kekw

need to go hunting again

I have like, 3 ezdiyfab, 2 lian li, 1 linkup

[fading glacier]

yeah better after the gtc thing

going for my coffee and some pretzels

[charred raft]

Anyone see the announcement?

[muted slate]

bruh 4080 for 900 though...

[charred raft]

$1199 for the 16gb it says, the 12gb version never had a price listed

[fading glacier]

what kind of question is this? xD

[charred raft]

Rumors pre announcement said only 4090 releasing this year, and they never listed a time for the 4080 that I saw

[fading glacier]

nope

rumors were: 4090 this year and probably 4080... probably

dunno which rumors you saw

rumors also said: 4070 probably january next year and 4060 as earliest as march

so far rumors were spot on

at least the 4090-4080 part

[charred raft]

Mhm

[muted slate]

This is just the starting price. Imagine the aibs

[fading glacier]

cant be much higher, competing vs founder cards is rough

[charred raft]

899 for the 12gb that's the same as the 3080 ti so that's fair

[fading glacier]

indeed

[charred raft]

Fair

[fading glacier]

the 12gb version is kinda lackluster compared to the 16gb

but then again the price difference is massive as well

[charred raft]

Yea

Will be interesting what we see from team red now

[muted slate]

what i'm trying to say is that this is 200 dollars more than what the 3080 was when it came out. and that had only 2gb less of vram

although this is a big increase in performace for a new generation

especially with rt which is interesting

[fading glacier]

yeah, vram isnt a factor that huge rn

compared to the other features

rtx3, tensor4 and dlss3 are massive

[charred raft]

The 2080 super was $699 right?

[muted slate]

I forgot tbh

[charred raft]

So +$200 is the normal ig for RTX

RTX 5080 being $1399 thou 💀

On high end

[muted slate]

aw he'll nah

[cerulean rover]

So uh bye bye sli

[cerulean rover]

I mean, 1080ti MSRP was 700$ (1080 MSRP was 600$), 2080 MSRP was 700$, 2080 super MSRP was 700$, 3080 MSRP was 700$

Prices don't just go up linearly

[keen nacelle]

Wasn't 2080 ti 1k?

Or was it 1.2

[muted slate]

1.2 I believe

[cerulean rover]

2080ti and 3090 are just wack

[keen nacelle]

Mhm

[cerulean rover]

They're the splurge money cards

[keen nacelle]

Not really much gains over 2080 super/3080 12gb

[charred raft]

I said RTX's

[muted slate]

2080 ti was definitely a dissapointment in terms of pricing

[cerulean rover]

2080, 2080 super, 3080 all same MSRP, all rtx

I brought up 1080ti to show the history

Because rtx started with Turing, but prices weren't that different on pascal

Anyways don't try to find trends when there isn't a trend here :p

[keen nacelle]

For all we know 50 series could be like 16 series

An add on to 40 series, more efficient

[odd siren]

I don't think I'll need any more gpu power after 40 series

[keen nacelle]

My 3060 ti is still overkill for what I do

[charred raft]

Until metaverse full dive becomes a thing

[keen nacelle]

When I bought it it wasn't

[charred raft]

Jk

[odd siren]

gonna hit that 4K 144hz mark by the looks of it

[keen nacelle]

But now I just play valorant and minecraft lmao

Haven't touched cod in months

[muted slate]

Well i guess that can be a good thing. If a gpu is overkill for a user then they won't have to buy a new one for quite a while

[odd siren]

that's my endgame rn

I'm sure it'll be too much for my setup

[keen nacelle]

I'd rather buy a mid end gpu every 2 years than a high end one every 4

[fading glacier]

you need to play the new cod, seems fun for the most part

[odd siren]

ya but I already have a 3090

why would I buy a 4070

[muted slate]

I'm definitely never going to get anything more than an 80 series card ever again. Too much power consumption

[keen nacelle]

I might. It just isn't my type of game anymore

I hate the community

[fading glacier]

hey we can ensnare pato and felix to a platoon

who knows

[odd siren]

[muted slate]

are you talking about the new MW2?

[fading glacier]

i had one not so long ago

an 8800gt

or was an 8600?

[odd siren]

might cancel my ayn loki preorder for this

[fading glacier]

[muted slate]

oh lol

[keen nacelle]

Only two gpus I've had are a 1030 and a 3060 ti

[odd siren]

I didn't really need it, now I'm seeing big perf

[keen nacelle]

Well I've also had a vega 56 and a 1660 in my possession but haven't used them

[odd siren]

[fading glacier]

had a 9600gt as well, then a 660 and now a 750ti

had my 3060ti but well you know the story

i want to see the consumption and power spikes on the 4090 before jumping into any conclussions

the hype train was fun tho

[charred raft]

9800 GT, GTX 550 Ti then SLI 550 Ti, GTX 970, 1650 Super

[muted slate]

noice

[keen nacelle]

If I were to upgrade, it'd be 4070. As I said no need though

[charred raft]

For my past gpu

[fading glacier]

im torn between 4080 and 4090... but need power specs first

[odd siren]

I could do either

[keen nacelle]

Get 4100

[charred raft]

I need a new gpu, I get 38 fps in what I play on medium

[odd siren]

[keen nacelle]

Fx 4100

[fading glacier]

tell me more

[odd siren]

1650W go brrrr

[muted slate]

if you wanted you could wait until the 50 series announcement and get one for cheap, kinda like what's going to happen with 30 series

[fading glacier]

i need to cut my 2k budget in half for the card, but the 4090 seems like crazy

[keen nacelle]

Nah, next upgrade will be to either 50 series or 60 series

[charred raft]

This 100% I want to know if my 850w is enough

[muted slate]

ah alr

[keen nacelle]

Though I'm also getting a free $1000 for working retail during covid

[muted slate]

oh nice

[keen nacelle]

So maybe I'll treat myself to a new monitor and gpu upgrade after all lol

[fading glacier]

same, im almost positive on ok for 850 for the 4080, not sure on the 4090

[keen nacelle]

4090 I wouldn't trust on anything below an A tier 1000, preferably 1200

[fading glacier]

that

[keen nacelle]

4080, 850 and 1000

[fading glacier]

4080 could be a thing on 850

[odd siren]

A tier 1650W go brrrrrr

[keen nacelle]

4060/ti I'm sure would do fine on a 650 that can handle transients

[muted slate]

bro the thermaltake psu with 2 12 pin connectors is finna be so op

[fading glacier]

we dont even know about the transients yet

thats why i need gamer jesus on the reviews asap

i know he will measure that first

[muted slate]

we all love gamer jesus

[fading glacier]

yeah 2 12hvpwr connectors for the kingpin! oh wait... too soon?

[cerulean rover]

Hof

[muted slate]

ah yes
1000w tdp

jk lol

[cerulean rover]

Rip kp cards though

[muted slate]

I hope not

[charred raft]

Ikr

[muted slate]

oh yeah there's not going to be kingpin gpus anymore

[charred raft]

All of mine have been evga so far

[muted slate]

I forgot

[fading glacier]

maybe we will see asus kingpin strix cards

[keen nacelle]

Oh something I just realized

[muted slate]

I mean there's that 6900xt LC from asus so maybe

[odd siren]

Not even gonna bother with kp this gen

[fading glacier]

i mean kingpin is still alive

[keen nacelle]

4090 is actually an investment, saves you money on heat for the winter

[charred raft]

And the 3090 Ti

[keen nacelle]

It won't be a thing

[muted slate]

[fading glacier]

not this gen, but maybe the next under another brand

msi kingpin trio x

[keen nacelle]

Maybe a similar model, but kp is dead

[charred raft]

Yea

[fading glacier]

😦

[charred raft]

Maybe PNY will step up and make higher end

They made the quadros

[odd siren]

Vince no dead

[fading glacier]

but the kingpin trademark belongs to evga

so, maybe not as kingpin but surely it will rise again

[muted slate]

Imagine quadruple fan heatsinks come out
doubt they will but if they did it would be kinda funy

[keen nacelle]

Pny will likely take evgas place

Mfw corsair starts making gpu aibs

[fading glacier]

but pny is not usa based

evga was strong because of that

[keen nacelle]

Maybe they'd take over zotacs spot as worst aib

[muted slate]

ooo corsair making gpu aibs?

[keen nacelle]

Nah

Was just a joke

[cerulean rover]

Good

[muted slate]

oof

[fading glacier]

corsair gpu hell naw

[cerulean rover]

I swear if Corsair started making crappy cards and marking them up like crazy

[fading glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/tracy-morgan-smh-shake-my-head-hell-no-no-gif-4844098

and full of rgbs

[odd siren]

Didn't corsair have a pascal aio variant

[cerulean rover]

I mean, just look at how badly they screwed up the coldplate on the as500 or whatever it was called

[keen nacelle]

Zotac quality for asus price

[muted slate]

imagine a razer gpu aib

[fading glacier]

well escanor said that zotac will surprise us this gen with the quality... in the good way

[cerulean rover]

Tbh zotac in general was never terrible, they just had bad budget cards

[keen nacelle]

I'll believe it when I see it

[fading glacier]

yeah the lower tier was utter crpa

[keen nacelle]

Except for how they forgot to put thermal pads on some 30 series cards

[cerulean rover]

Twin edge is sad

[fading glacier]

well folks, time for work 😦 see you in some hours 😄

👋

[cerulean rover]

Bad thermal pads was common on 30 series tbh

[keen nacelle]

Cya

[cerulean rover]

The most egregious thing was their scalping

Cya

[keen nacelle]

No they literally didn't put any on

Like

At all

Bad cooling vs no cooling

[cerulean rover]

Yes, not too different from say EVGA having badly placed thermal pads that doesn't cover everything

Or msi or whatever

[keen nacelle]

Eh, it's evga messing up vs zotac cheaping out

[cerulean rover]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

The results are still just you'll want to replace thermal pads if you need the vram

No difference to like miners

[fading glacier]

coming back just to leave this

strix... suprims....

ok back to the hellhole

[charred raft]

Recommended PSU for RTX 4090 is 850w on nvidia's website

[cerulean rover]

Cool, as expected then, just need to see if it spikes

[charred raft]

RTX 4080 12GB $899; 285w TDP (releasing November)
RTX 4080 16GB $1,199; 320w TDP (releasing November)
RTX 4090 $1,599; 450w TDP (releasing October 15th)

Basically

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/compare/

4080 12gb only needs a 700w psu

Spikes are the biggest concern now

[wicked hound]

AV1 encode tho, kinda pog

[cerulean rover]

Tasty

[wicked hound]

Was assumed to have it tho

[cerulean rover]

Basically Intel arc loses it's currently only advantage

[charred raft]

Yep 😆

Just price now

[wicked hound]

Kinda, going to be a bit before Nvidia gets a $140 AV1 GPU out

[cerulean rover]

Yea

Gt1010 replacement when

[wicked hound]

Im actually pretty excited for RTX Portal remaster tho. I wonder if that has to do with the remaster dev I saw some time ago now

[cerulean rover]

Oh are they doing it like quake rtx?

[novel musk]

so they’re both RTX 4090? What’s the difference why they look different, just different skins?

[wicked hound]

Portal thing I saw a while ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjoatjztY_Y

[fading glacier]

yes

[wicked hound]

Also wtf Nvidia, not naming 4080 16gb as 4080Ti when that's what it literally is

[fading glacier]

also no dp 2.0 support 😛 lame... they aren't expecting their cards to hit 8k 120hz, at least not this gen

[cerulean rover]

Huh

[wicked hound]

Just like 3080 12/10GB and 1060 3/6GB there is a core different. Disingenuous to pretend it's just VRAM difference

[fading glacier]

now that i think of it, no

its more like 4080 and 4070

not 4080 and 80ti

the whole card is different

[wicked hound]

Actually yeah, true

[fading glacier]

nvidia expects no one will complain about a 4080 at 900usd, instead of a 4070 at 900usd... clever move, but we saw thru the smoke e_e

yo pato, i have a kidney for sale... you interested?

[heady turtle]

+465 messages oh god 40 series either v good or trash

[wicked hound]

Well maybe ig, that's always been the case tbf

[fading glacier]

the news are all over the place... im just waiting on gamer jesus recap

cause i cant stand jayz

[wicked hound]

1080(Ti), 2080(S)(Ti), 3080(12GB/Ti)

Cards were always pretty different

[fading glacier]

[wicked hound]

Not just core, PCB and such

[fading glacier]

now you made me doubt

[charred raft]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/compare/

[wicked hound]

That said, there is a huge core different between 4080 16GB and 4090. So they obviously want to release a whole bunch of 4080s

[fading glacier]

im pretty sure pato is already reading the whole chat anyway

[charred raft]

Kk

[fading glacier]

yup theres a huge gap for ti and super variants there

in case amd wants to play

[charred raft]

True

[lone pond]

hello, i am new to doing upgrades and i have a hp compaq 6300 sff computer and it has a gt 1030. could i upgrade to a gtx 1660 super single fan with no problem

[fading glacier]

that depends on your psu

hp is kinda wack on proprietary parts, sometimes they puts 250w psu on their oem systems

[wicked hound]

Was expecting more reasonable prices but ig not. Only hope now is that Nvidia raised ADA prices to clear Ampere stock

[lone pond]

if the psu is right could i do the upgrade

[keen nacelle]

It wouldn't surprise me to see aibs have very very close to fe pricing, and sales shortly after launch

But ig well see

[charred raft]

They did, the slide after the 4080 was them saying the 30 series are still viable gpu

[lone pond]

this is my first gaming desktop and i got it on ebay pre built it came with gt 1030, 1tb ssd and hdd and i5

[wicked hound]

Need enough wattage and a 6P PCIe cable from PSU.

[fading glacier]

6300 sff specs say about a 240w psu

you need to verify it

240 is way too low

[heady turtle]

3080 ti pro max plus?

[fading glacier]

3080? how dare you pato?

[lone pond]

i know i would need to upgrade psu and i found a 650w for $44

[fading glacier]

you need to check the 24 pin on your mobo

[wicked hound]

Gonna have to stick close to FE pricing def, too much Ampere fun. Hopefully sales soon, but who knows

[fading glacier]

hp pcs are kinda wack on that

[keen nacelle]

Model is very important

[charred raft]

HP does the wacky yea

[fading glacier]

not only that bacca, hp power delivery is not on 24 pins most of the time

its a weird 12 pin thing

[heady turtle]

I'm jet lagged shush

[lone pond]

i mean i found another pre built pc with i5, rtx 2060, 512gb ssd for $529

[fading glacier]

he need to check that as well

yeah my suggestion if your wallet alow it ofc, is to get a prebuilt from a reputable brand and stay away from those hp low end prebuilts

[lone pond]

i did do a price check on building my own, it was almost $650 and i could get a amd ryzen 7 with 1tb hdd and i5 and 650w

[winter sun]

😭

[fading glacier]

if you are comfortbale building your own pc the lads here can help you to get the best bang for your buck if you tell us how much is your budget for it

[wicked hound]

Holy hell. Wow, so percentage difference between 4080.16 and 4090 is 1.7x of cores. That's same between 3070Ti to 3090, 2070S to 2080Ti, 1070/1070Ti to 1080Ti, and 970 to 980Ti..... The 4080.16 is basically a 4070 going by core differences alone in its respective generation lol

[fading glacier]

welp,. back to work

😦

[keen nacelle]

12100f games better than a 3700x, one sec

I'll make you a list

[lone pond]

right now my budget is low lol, like maybe $500 tops

i had a msi ge raider 76 laptop had i7, 1tb hss and rtx 3080 but had to sell it

in ways i perfer a laptop bc mobility

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zrwGVw buying some parts used would get you where you need

Needs a gpu

Didn't include one since you'll likely just buy one used

[lone pond]

not ot bad

[keen nacelle]

Could look for a used 10400, 12100 3600, 11400

Maybe 9400 or 8700

Could easily buy used ram, case and mobo without too many issues. Just be careful when buying mobo

I'd get cpu first to make sure you don't limit yourself

[lone pond]

in the pc i have now, i have a i5, 1tb hdd and i think 1tb hdd so storage i have.

[keen nacelle]

I'd get a small ssd for a boot drive then

Hdd as boot in any type of modern device is terrible

Fine for secondary storage

[wicked hound]

Wow... so the 4080.16 might actually be a 4070 for $1100... bloody heck I really hope not, but it kinda checks out tho....

[keen nacelle]

Well just have to wait and see

I feel like early buyers are going to regret it though

[lone pond]

this is what i found for $529

Refurbished: HP Gaming PC Desktop computer - Intel Quad I5 up to 3.6GHz, GeForce RTX 2060 6G, 512G SSD, 16GB Memory, RGB Keyboard & Mouse, DVD, WiFi & Bluetooth, Win 10 Pro (Grade A)
Colors: Black
Operating System: Windows 10 Pro
CPU Type: Intel Core i5 6th Gen
CPU Speed: 3.2GHz
GPU/VGA Type: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060
Memory Capacity: 16GB DDR4
SSD: 512 GB
HDD: No

[keen nacelle]

That seems pretty decent

Could do better buying used parts and building though

[lone pond]

ive never built one before

but i have only been looking on newegg

[keen nacelle]

Are you able to do this? https://www.walmart.com/ip/HP-Pavilion-Gaming-Desktop-Intel-Core-i5-10400F-Nvidia-GeForce-RTX-3060-8GB-RAM-256GB-SSD-Windows-11-Home-Black-TG01-1183w/491051468

Would need more ram though

And you can put your hdd in

[lone pond]

i built this on pc builder but came out to $788.89

[wicked hound]

Im going by bus width and core multiplier between xx70(Ti) and top end (xx80Ti/xx90) for Maxwell, Pascal, Turing, and Ampere. Also making sure that perf multiplier is within a reasonable range (125% - 145%). It more or less checks out.... Which is pretty damn scary

[lone pond]

Component
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Intel Core i5-10600KF - Core i5 10th Gen Comet Lake 6-Core 4.1 GHz LGA 1200 125W Desktop Processor - BX8070110600KF
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1
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Motherboard
ASRock H470M-HVS LGA 1200 Intel H470 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
ASRock H470M-HVS LGA 1200 Intel H470 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
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$69.99
Memory
Neo Forza FAYE SRank 32GB (2x16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) SDRAM Desktop Memory Model NMUD416F82-3200DG20
$78.99
Video Cards
Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon RX 6600 Gaming 8GB GDDR6 HDMI / DP LITE EDITION Video Card 11310-04-20G
$239.99
Case
DIYPC G3-BK-ARGB Black Steel / Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
$49.97
Power Supply
EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G5, 80 Plus Gold 650W, Fully Modular, Eco Mode with FDB Fan, 10 Year Warranty, Includes Power ON Self Tester, Compact 150mm Size, Power Supply 220-G5-0650-X1
EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G5, 80 Plus Gold 650W, Fully Modular, Eco Mode with FDB Fan, 10 Year Warranty, Includes Power ON Self Tester, Compact 150mm Size, Power Supply 220-G5-0650-X1
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Team Group T-FORCE VULCAN Z 2.5" 1TB SATA III 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) T253TZ001T0C101
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[keen nacelle]

For why

[lone pond]

thats only 8gb ram for $750

[near jackal]

i want one please

[keen nacelle]

You can add in a second stick

For like $25

Just whatever 8gb 3200c22 stick you can get

[lone pond]

yea but thats already $750

im really trying to stay around $500

[keen nacelle]

Then here, and buy some stuff used. Or get that 2060 build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T2Tdv3

[lone pond]

i was looking at the radeon rx 6600 yesterday bc it said its comparable to the rtx 3060 i believe

[keen nacelle]

It's a tiny bit worse, but yes

Most similar to the 2060 super iirc

[lone pond]

and whats the ryzen 7 comparable to

[keen nacelle]

Depends on which ryzen 7

2700x is worse than the 4 core 3300x

3700x games comparably to the 12100f

5700x is comparable to the 12600kf

[lone pond]

ryzen 7 2700 for $145.99

[keen nacelle]

That's awful

[charred raft]

5800X3D is comparable to?

[keen nacelle]

The 12100f is $105 and far better

Core count is near irrelevant for gaming

[lone pond]

8 core count

[keen nacelle]

I would look for a 7700, 8700, 8400, 9400, 10400, 3600, 12100, or 11400

[keen nacelle]

Read the message literally right above this one

[lone pond]

the cheapest i seen is ryzen 5 5500

[keen nacelle]

Are you in the us?

[lone pond]

yes

[livid idol]

In gaming that's currently the top chip overall

By quite a bit

[keen nacelle]

Only get a 5500 if it's under $80

12100f is better and $100

[heady turtle]

Well actually 🤓

[lone pond]

5500 it $138.96

[keen nacelle]

Where tf are you looking

[heady turtle]

5500 is a bad 3600

[lone pond]

newegg

[livid idol]

Yes I know an overclocked 12900k can beat it and next gen is coming

[heady turtle]

12900k or 5900x beats it stock in csgo tho

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/D3vzC6

[livid idol]

Yes let's use a 10+ year old game as an example lol

[keen nacelle]

12100f is better than the 5500

[livid idol]

500 fps no matter which of those you use

[heady turtle]

How dare you

[odd siren]

• hold my beer *

https://tenor.com/view/grandma-age-of-empires-time-gif-24854122

[wicked hound]

More laid out data to show why I think 4080.16 is more of a 4070Ti then a 4080 "Ti"

perf percentages based off TPU database cuz easy data

[fading glacier]

so... probably those ti and super series will be a thing 👀

clever way to fight amd if they try to claim the crown this time

[wicked hound]

Clever way to price a 4070Ti at $1100 with an okay bit of backlash instead of an insane amount of backlash

[fading glacier]

to think that some months ago we were talking about how amd will hit the market first and that nvidia will miss xmas season by delaying 40 series that much... and here we are now... nvidia well ahead of the game... far far ahead

[lone pond]

My pc has a 240w power supply for what I stated earlier about my hp Compaq 6300 sff

[keen nacelle]

Yeah I would not put a 1660 in that

[fading glacier]

get the list bacca made for you earlier

will be a better pc overall

[hot bough]

HELL YEAH! 4090 HERE I COME!

[keen nacelle]

Shouldn't the 4090 be coming to you?

[hot bough]

I will run across the oceans to it!

https://tenor.com/view/quelle-merde-walk-on-water-funny-gif-11990647

[gleaming tundra]

4080 is overprice.

Hope AMD can beat NV.

[tropic remnant]

[gleaming tundra]

😝

[tropic remnant]

Also 900 for a 12gb 4080 is reasonable

[fading glacier]

and strix is coming at launch as well

you were blessed

[tropic remnant]

Wait for the 4090 Tie lol

[fading glacier]

well he will not

the hype has passed, now to wait for amd

[gleaming tundra]

🥺

[tropic remnant]

I am waiting for 3rd party reviewers

[hot bough]

HELL YEAH!

MY PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED!!!!

[fading glacier]

well, prepare the wallet for october 12th

[hot bough]

I know.

Did they say how much for the Strix?

I saw the FE at $1,599.

[fading glacier]

expect 100 to 150 extra

last time 3090ti was 2k the founder edition, while the aib cards were at 2.2k

[odd siren]

@fading glacier riser performance is the same

Did some quick superposition 8K benchmarks and the results were within 40 points each or margin of error

It's def the right one, booted no issue

[fading glacier]

damn bro, i owe you a drink

then the bracket is a go 👍

[hot bough]

Oh perfect. Was within expectations then.

I was expecting about $1800 for the Strix.

Well more praying that's how much they will be then expecting.

[normal hawk]

even multi core?

[keen nacelle]

it was in a convo about gaming perf, but just a quick estimate I'd say they're probably similar in multi core

i'll check tho

nvm, 5500 wins a decent bit in multi core

lacks pcie 4.0 support though, and tends to cost more

[normal hawk]

Yeah but good motherboards are cheaper

and while with the 12100f you have an upgrade path for sure, if you had a b450 with a 1600 when those were the meta the 5500/5600 is a good option still

[keen nacelle]

5600, yeah

but 5500 is normally more expensive than a used 3600

and this is a fresh build

[normal hawk]

There are people who don't like getting used

[keen nacelle]

so not super relevant to the convo at hand

also 10400 is cheaper than a 5500, with same multi core

with same/cheaper mobo costs

[normal hawk]

but then the 5500 has better single core performance

[keen nacelle]

While also costing more when it's going to be gpu limited anyways

[normal hawk]

Also multi core if what I'm look at

[normal hawk]

10$ more

5500 is 134$ right now

10400 is 126 or somethin

[keen nacelle]

10400 is $120

[normal hawk]

OKAY 14

🥲

14$ more for better multi and single core isn't fine?

also 2 more cores than the 12100f

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rPvgXy
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qRNMxc
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c7smk9

The three options

All with wifi included, since it's needed for this build

[normal hawk]

Why are you going with a b550 board

[keen nacelle]

All the cheapest wifi boards

[normal hawk]

no pcie gen 4.0

go with a b450

[keen nacelle]

Because it is the cheapest wifi board

That is currently in stock

All three lists have the cheapest mobo that includes wifi

Unless pcp was being stupid again

[normal hawk]

I mean if budget is strict you could always go with a DS3H 🥲

[fading glacier]

[normal hawk]

https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-B450M-DS3H-WiFi-Motherboard/dp/B08B7ZX8Q2/ 🥲 @keen nacelle

[valid citrus]

what do you mean by that

[odd siren]

Need a bios update to run a ds3h no?

The msi one has a flashback button

[normal hawk]

5500 and 10400 don't have pcie 4.0 so theres no point getting a board with them.

[normal hawk]

Yea true

[valid citrus]

oh ok

[normal hawk]

Wild that they still make mobos without flashback

[valid citrus]

this seems like a really good deal am I wrong>

#tech-deals message

the rtx 3060 $400 but $100 giftcard

[keen nacelle]

Odd, didn't show on pcp for me

[normal hawk]

Cause its renewed

If I was gonna get something renewed I'd look at amazon warehouse deals instead tbh

so nevermind that motherboard

Cause why would you get that cheapo d3sh when you could get this instead: https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B450-AORUS-PRO-WIFI/dp/B07FW85VFT/ Which does have Q-Flash.

Not that I'm suggesting a renewed/used/motherboard in the first place.

So you are correct @keen nacelle xD

[gleaming tundra]

many people think the 4080 12GB=4070. NV just changed the name of the 4070.

[vital oriole]

i don't see them changing that anywhere

[fading glacier]

people can complain all they want, but i dont think nvidia will change anything, not even the price, which is the big complain 😛

sadly

maybe we are still on the chip shortage

[balmy magnet]

considering how crippled the specs of the 12GB are (particularly the cores and memory interface) compared to the 16GB model, it seems a reasonable theory; "they only named it 4080 bc otherwise people would be outraged at the price of what is essentially a 4070"

[vital oriole]

Considering how expensive new node process is

AMD will have to price their cards somewhat high too

I'm not feeling too confident about current gpu market..

[keen nacelle]

I'm assuming new gpus will be overpriced, but the current market might sit as is. Ig well see soon enough

[vital oriole]

I meant current as in those new upcoming stuff

[keen nacelle]

Yeah ik

[vital oriole]

But yeah, older cards might not actually face much drops

[keen nacelle]

Thing is new gpus won't sell if 30 series and below drops super cheap on the used market

Which would mean new stuff would have to have price cuts if the sales are that low

[vital oriole]

ye

[fading glacier]

do you really think they will cut down the prices on the 40 series anytime soon? could be a blessing

[keen nacelle]

If they don't sell, I'd say yes

[odd siren]

I'm making a move on a preorder the moment I get an educated perspective

[hasty sphinx]

Which one you going for?

[odd siren]

Igame neptune or aorus waterforce if that one is also a 360 aio

Hell maybe even a waterblock one

[hasty sphinx]

Have the other companies released their model specs then?

[odd siren]

Shove that and a D5 in and go brrrr

Quite a few so far

Strix is popping already which is a surprise

[hasty sphinx]

I like where aurous put their connectors this time. Doesn't block the screen if you route them downwards.

[odd siren]

I don't like the aorus design

Lmao

It's like, double-wide

I'm sure it's good but that's not quite the aorus look I wanted

Maybe the waterforce ones look better tho

[hasty sphinx]

Go big or go home :P

[remote patrol]

so i found a GIGABYTE rtx 2060 for $244

is it worth it?

or will the price fall even more after new gpus launch?

[vital oriole]

It's fine

[remote patrol]

so it's worth it?

[vital oriole]

yeah

[keen nacelle]

Pretty meh

[heady turtle]

New? If you're in the us ehhh

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/G9ytt6/gigabyte-radeon-rx-6600-8-gb-eagle-video-card-gv-r66eagle-8gd

[remote patrol]

the thing is, im from Europe so the shipping from amazon is expensive af

[remote patrol]

it says that the shipping is $160

[remote patrol]

yea brand new, eu btw

[heady turtle]

Then say price in euro

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-doge-gif-24837098

[heady turtle]

What country

[keen nacelle]

What part of eu

[hot bough]

Gosh I feel old now...

I am now a year older.

[heady turtle]

Just worked it out, 4080 12gb has 25% less cores than 4080 16gb 💀

[proper marlin]

I have a ROG Maximus Z690 XT and a ROG 3080TI OC. I'm considering, largely for giggles, to get a second video card. However, when I do that, my Express Multiplier goes from x16 to x8, obviously. Under what scenario would this give a detriment over an advantage? Related, my primary M.2 drive also cuts the multiplier a second time if I use it (currently am not). Would there be any edge to doing that?

[keen nacelle]

if you are gaming, a second gpu will not benefit you whatsoever

[proper marlin]

What if I had a game in one monitor/GPU and another running something else?

[fading glacier]

you can run 4 monitors on the 80ti

dont see the point to handicap your gpu

[ivory herald]

Indeed going x8 probably equal or more harm than just running youtube or netflix on the same gpu.

[fading glacier]

facts

not to mention the stress on the psu and an increase of thermals inside the case

[hasty sphinx]

I run 4 monitors off a 3080 12gb and game, watch YT/Hulu/Disney+ while also hanging out in discord/browsing internet/using messenger.. the 3080Ti can handle all that no problem whatsoever.

^ without meaningful loss of performance when gaming

[proper marlin]

https://s.zeroserenity.com/V8

I think I'll be fine on power and cooling, if we're being honest with each other.

[hasty sphinx]

Why do you need so much ram?

And with such high end, why not get a 4090 and 13900ks

And why go for such a cheap aio when you may as well custom loop it.

I mean.. if you spending the money to go "all out" why you skimping?

Felix over here writing a damn novel

[odd siren]

You could use a small low power card to run in the second slot via nvlink. It'll lift off the idle power off the first GPU from the extra screens which will help a bit considering you'll have pcie gen 5x8 on both (more than ample).
If you have an old one lying around, sure, go for it, it won't really do anything, if we're being honest with each other. I've tried it.
If you buy a 2nd card to do it? Huge waste, don't bother with it at all imo.

This is a question of how much money do you want to burn for no real benefit because in daily use you won't notice the maybe couple dozen fps missing for your games or few extra seconds for renders

[hasty sphinx]

I have a dumpster fire.

[odd siren]

Couple dozen fps is an extremely generous number btw, this is assuming you have like, several 4K displays hooked up

All running video too lmao

[modest stump]

Update on the 3080 I got for $500

Looks awesome and works awesome

[dusky folio]

Does indeed look awesome

[odd siren]

@modest stump is that middle pcie cable from a different power supply

[modest stump]

Maybe

[odd siren]

Take it out, like right now

[modest stump]

By that I mean yes

💀

[odd siren]

You can fry a card doing that

No I'm dead serious

[modest stump]

Me too

Shutting down pc

Okay everything’s off

And power supply is off

[odd siren]

Ok so you have any other pcie power cables at all with the current psu?

[modest stump]

Only 6 pin

[odd siren]

It only has 1 pigtail and a 6 pin?

[modest stump]

Wym

[odd siren]

Pigtail = 2x8

[modest stump]

Like the 6+2

Oh

Yeah it had one

Rm850

[odd siren]

Or 2x6+2 yeah

[modest stump]

A lot of six pin connectors tho

Like I have 4 extras rn

[odd siren]

What psu and cpu are you running?

Need specific model numbers

Rm850 should have more 8 pins that's weird

Ok but this helps still

[modest stump]

Cpu it’s i7-9700k

[odd siren]

Is the extra pcie cable you bought, confirmed type 4?

[modest stump]

No clue I actually jus t borrowed it from a friend

[odd siren]

Ok then don't use it

[modest stump]

Completely forgot you can f things up by doing that

[odd siren]

You can use type 4 pcie power connectors with modern corsair psu's

[modest stump]

Well I was gaming for about an hour and half

And did benchmarks

[odd siren]

So if you need an extra one, I would do that

[odd siren]

Death is not instantaneous

[modest stump]

Well I definitely won’t use that cable again

[odd siren]

What you end up doing is reversing voltage and grounds or shuffling them everywhere

Since the pinouts are different orders on different cables

Corsair uses type 4 tho, it's supposed to be widely compatible

So if you buy a type 4 pcie 6+2 it should work

Do a little research before you buy

I'm pretty sure though

[modest stump]

Would it say on my psu box

[odd siren]

It might say it on the psu itself iirc

Something like "Type 4 compatible cables"

It's relatively easy to get a type 4 tho, $10?

[modest stump]

Yeah not really worried about the cost of a cable but more so making sure it’s the right one now

Lol

[odd siren]

Here we go
https://www.corsair.com/ww/en/psu-cable-compatibility

So on there they say it's definitely type 4

For any RM

So yeah $10 or less for a type 4 corsair pcie cable

[modest stump]

Sweet I’ll be doing that then

Thanks for warning me

Completely slipped my mind

[odd siren]

Np, I've experienced wrong cables first hand

So I knew what would happen next

Best be lucky this is a strix, the VRM is very over-built on the card so it's potentially one of the better equipped for that

[modest stump]

Yeah I’m lucky in that regard definitely will gotta get a cable

Back to the 2080super I go

Lol

[odd siren]

Lol

[modest stump]

If it didn’t have 3 8pin connectors I wouldn’t have this dang problem lol

[odd siren]

Ya that's kinda weird

I have an rm850x and I have like 2 pigtails and 2 8 pins

[modest stump]

I have 1 pigtail and 1 8pin

[odd siren]

1 pigtail and 1 8 pin pcie?

[modest stump]

Idk where the other cables are because it said it came with 2 of each of those

Yes

[odd siren]

So 3 8 pins?

[modest stump]

One is on my cpu

[odd siren]

Oh

Kekw

[modest stump]

Yeah lol

[odd siren]

Wait you don't have eps??

For cpu

[modest stump]

Ngl idk what that is

[odd siren]

4+4

[modest stump]

Actually

I think I do

[odd siren]

You do?

Oh sweet put that in instead of the one in there now for the cpu

[modest stump]

So where tf is all my 8 pin pcie cords 😭

No I mean that’s all I have

Lol

No extras

[odd siren]

1 4+4 to cpu is fine, better in fact

[modest stump]

Good, that’s what I got there now

[odd siren]

Oh i see

Is this a used psu?

This is really odd if this is new you could maybe even warranty claim for missing cables

[modest stump]

No was new in 2019

I have the box with all my extras that I did have

[odd siren]

That is very weird then

I've heard of missing cables out of the box before tho

If you don't wanna pay the extra you could probably submit a ticket to corsair explaining the situation

Sending a cable is a pretty inexpensive thing especially if you were supposed to have them

[modest stump]

Might just be worth to just use the 2080 for now, my friend is buying my pc and I’m building a whole new one soon

[odd siren]

Ah I see

[modest stump]

He’s buying in like a week or two

[odd siren]

2080 still stonks anyway

[modest stump]

So idk if it’s even worth the trouble

Specially a strix 2080super

[odd siren]

You getting a new psu then too?

[modest stump]

Yeah

Wanna see my list

[odd siren]

Sure if you want some quick feedback

[modest stump]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BVWm78

I had demonmit help me out

[odd siren]

Yeah that's really good actually that list. The gpu there is supposed to be the strix yeah?

I could see maybe a savings switching the psu choice there and maybe the ssd but that's it really

[modest stump]

It was gonna be the evga one

But then I got a great deal

So

[fading glacier]

[modest stump]

Probably could get a water cooler now with my savings

[odd siren]

Actually no the ssd is great

[modest stump]

Yeah good ssd

[odd siren]

Maybe a cheaper psu if anything

[dreamy dragon]

FlexibleFelix#0713 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[odd siren]

Eh

EHH

Omg it's in the link

[modest stump]

Lol

[odd siren]

https://pcpartpicker.com/mr/newegg/P7pmP6
Like this one

Save $10

It's a good list tho. Peerless Assassin isn't the greatest dual tower but it'll handle a 12600K

That list is good

[fading glacier]

no swearing pal

[odd siren]

Pcpp did it

[modest stump]

@odd siren my friend actually might have a Corsair rm

One sec

He just has the white one

[odd siren]

You'd be a lucky son of a gun if he does lmfao

[modest stump]

He’s double checking rn

[modest stump]

@odd siren was a Corsair rmx which uses type 4

Lmfao

What are the odds

[odd siren]

You might want a lottery ticket right about now

[lone pond]

Do you guys think this build will work? The link is https://pcpartpicker.com/list/889WPX

Im really new to all this

I am worried that when I start to build it wont work

[odd siren]

https://www.techpowerup.com/299096/nvidia-details-geforce-rtx-4090-founders-edition-cooler-pcb-design-new-power-spike-management

23 phase VRM on the FE and better G6X temps

Woag

[livid idol]

Are they using the same G6X that the 3090 ti used? So it's only on one side of the PCB?

[odd siren]

Yup, 16gbit

Still same 12 chip layout

Pics of the pcb are in the article

Biggest thing of this is the spike management, they actually made an effort to fix this

It's just a shame they're opting to 16 pin because the terminal issues are very alarming

[livid idol]

The connector issues should only be a problem in ITX doing tight bends

[odd siren]

Beyond *60 degrees

That's not exactly tight

It's not hard to avoid it either, true

[livid idol]

I'm sure it'll only be these early models too, it's not a hard thing to fix

Just as I thought, default mode is 450W and you can toggle to 600W with a new 3.0 PSU

AIBs can go higher if they want too

RIP power supplies below 1200W at that high power mode

[fading glacier]

they are claiming that the transients are a thing of the past with the new design

need to see third party reviews for that to be true

[livid idol]

I call bull because they've always been a thing, it's just gotten worse over time because of the increased power draw

[fading glacier]

me too, they say that the atx 3.0 is not needed cause of that

calls bs that as well, but we will see

[odd siren]

Lots of big claims this announcement for sure

But a 23 phase vrm is kinda nuts

[fading glacier]

strix on 24 phases

[odd siren]

1 more won't do much

It compells me to go FE cos they get hand-picked chips

[fading glacier]

my 850g6 supporting a 4090? hmmmmmm

sus

[odd siren]

If I can run all 600W through my 3x8 I won't care for a new psu

Tbh

I got 1650W on tap lol

[fading glacier]

450w+13600k on a 850g6.... hmmmm could be a thing

if what nvida say is true

[odd siren]

I'm aware of sense pins fal

Lol

I can tell that's the message otw

[livid idol]

We'll see but I doubt increasing power phases will be the only thing they do, or be very helpful at all

[livid idol]

Nope lol

[odd siren]

You should've bet something

[fading glacier]

[livid idol]

3x8 to 12+4 adapters top out at 450W anyway, so add your ~70W slot power and you have a little OC room

[odd siren]

Unless a vbios mod exists which doesn't care for it

Good 8 pins can do 300W+ anyway

[fading glacier]

ok, this a newbie question.... what will happen if somehow your card want more than 450w on your 3xpcie connectors?

[odd siren]

It's all about the connector you gotta keep chilled out

[odd siren]

It'll take it. Power is a draw situation not a push

[livid idol]

I'm wondering whether they're controlling the unlocking of 600W mode using the sense pins and vbios or if it's just a toggle you have to tick "I accept the risk"

[odd siren]

Hoping the latter tbh

My psu is quiet af even at 1KW lol

[livid idol]

I've seen 1kW through 2x8 pin doing LN2 (not me personally)

[odd siren]

It's just noisy when I turn it off cos it dissipates the capacitance

[livid idol]

High quality power supplies use thick gauge wires that won't melt easily

[odd siren]

It's the connector you worry about more

Not the cable

Plastic connectors be meltin

[livid idol]

Yes, so don't pull 1000W for more than 15 minutes at a time without a cooldown period

[odd siren]

Or good airflow

[livid idol]

Long story short the cables can handle whatever your GPU asks for provided it's a high enough quality unit for the GPU

[fading glacier]

well this one claims to have 16awg on those

should be good xD the psu tho...

xD

hope amd will knock some sense into nvidia pricing scheme

with some good cards

seems like im more and more inclined to jump into the 4090 hypewagon

unless the 7950xt come swinging

[livid idol]

AMD seems to be banking on nvidia shooting themselves in the foot and becoming the new "too hot and power hungry" brand

It's also a lot cheaper for AMD to produce their chips since only part of the core is the new process

[fading glacier]

hahaha nvidia shooting themselves on both feet

true

amd can capitalize big time on that

[livid idol]

So nvidia might win overall performance by brute force but AMD will easily be price/performance king

[fading glacier]

there are also leaks about poor performance of dlss3

artifacting fps

big time

[livid idol]

That's to be expected, interpolating 2 AI generated images like that is just weird and complicated

[fading glacier]

hopefull that could be fixed on driver side

it must

[vital oriole]

knowing nvidia

they'll fix it in time

[fading glacier]

every video on youtube today are throwing heavy crap on the 40 series xD not a single one praising them

hope that rattle the nvidia boat a little

[vital oriole]

that feels a little sad

but if radeon prices aggressively

nvidia will be forced to drop price

[livid idol]

It'll take time for DLSS 3 to be good, like any new tech.

[vital oriole]

ye

and people are gonna trash on it, as always

[livid idol]

What's interesting is the RT mod package that any dev can use to add RT to their games

[fading glacier]

yeah, how to destroy your own products with those prices, like we were still on the chip shortage age

[vital oriole]

at least nvidia didn't raise their price 2x lol

wafer cost went way up

[livid idol]

It really does cost them that much more money per chip, and that just means they pass the cost to us

[vital oriole]

yeah

[livid idol]

It REALLY doesn't help with their over-ordering of wafers killing their margins and passing even more cost to us

[vital oriole]

big f

also 12 gigs "3080"

marketing team, pls stop this

[livid idol]

So yeah if the 7900XT can be within 10% of the 4090 in its 450W mode and costing $1200 or something, AMD all day long

[quartz gull]

When does rdna 3 get announced?

[vital oriole]

3rd november

[fading glacier]

mov 3

[livid idol]

Coming soon: 3080 10GB for $700
3080 8GB for $600
3080 6GB for $550

[vital oriole]

lol

[fading glacier]

you mean 4080s

😛

[quartz gull]

Nvidia back up to their tricks again

[vital oriole]

DLSS 3 is making me want to force myself to wait longer for 4060 mobile

[quartz gull]

Like the 1060 3gb

[vital oriole]

But that's a one whole year of wait

Possibly

[fading glacier]

yeah probably may

[vital oriole]

Escanor only told earliest is Q2 2023

[fading glacier]

so so

[quartz gull]

Low-key I'm tempted to just get a 4090

[vital oriole]

That's not particularly great news

Not for my waiting at least lmao

But 4060 also will have extra vram for mobile

[fading glacier]

as do i

[vital oriole]

I just dunno if it's going to be faster than 3070

[fading glacier]

the jump between 4080 16 and 4090 is massive

[quartz gull]

4090 doesn't actually look that bad

That core difference though

[fading glacier]

not worth the 4080 at all

[vital oriole]

it's not too bad

[quartz gull]

80% more cores for 33% more?

Same clocks

[vital oriole]

4090 is probably the one that has any value to it

[quartz gull]

50% more vram

[fading glacier]

imagine 4080 super announced on december

[quartz gull]

50% more vram 80% more cores for 33% more

[fading glacier]

to crap over all the 4080 early adopters

[livid idol]

4060 (and whatever they end up calling the "4070") will be waiting for all the 30 series stock to die out anyway

[quartz gull]

See Nvidia has a stock issue with 80+

But the 4090 is just going to cause even more 3080+ into the market

[fading glacier]

but nvidia once again loaded the gun and keep shooting now at both arms for announcing dlss3 only available on ada chips.... 30 series now look even less appealing than before

[vital oriole]

Imma just get 3060 or 3070 laptop then

Knowing 4060 won't be coming out very soon

[fading glacier]

not many ppl will buy 80s and 90s without dlss3 support

[quartz gull]

Low-key my 3050ti laptop plays most things at high 1080p

I'm still content with that little thing

[vital oriole]

i need my laptop to last a while tho

so 3050ti just won't do

4 gigs vram is oof

[fading glacier]

get an 80ti mobile

something on the 180w range

[vital oriole]

lmao

[fading glacier]

😛

[livid idol]

Especially not if their claims are true and the 40704080 12GB matches the 3090

[vital oriole]

and have to drop 2k for it

[quartz gull]

I bought my 5800h 3050ti laptop for $580 brand new XD

[fading glacier]

the literally killed the 30 series already.... so that 4070s and 4060s could be a long way

[quartz gull]

Talking to the dell reps is absurd sometimes, I got a 30% discount on a already low sale price

[vital oriole]

used 5800h+3060 laptops usually hovers around 700-800 here

with a year or more of warranty remaining

im waiting to get that

[fading glacier]

you are on Thailand right foxy?

[vital oriole]

yep

[fading glacier]

that price seems ok, why not push for a 3070 for a bit more coin?

[vital oriole]

those are harder to find

i gotta hope one pops up when money comes around

otherwise 3060 lol

[quartz gull]

Will my 850 watt PSU handle a 4090 do you think?

[vital oriole]

maybe

[fading glacier]

if its an a tier maaaaaaybe

that depends on the reviews

[vital oriole]

nvidia said 850w psu recc for fe 4090

[quartz gull]

Enermax Revolution DF 850W

[fading glacier]

if they certify the transients claim.... maaaaaybe

[vital oriole]

yeah the revo will do fine

a tier

[fading glacier]

gamer jesus is our savior

[quartz gull]

I'mma go for a 4090

[fading glacier]

im on the same boat tulip..... itching for a 4090

[quartz gull]

If my 12600k is fine then I'mma wait until 2026 range to upgrade anything else

[fading glacier]

but im not entirely sure if my 850g6 will suffice

its a gamble, a hard one

450 can spike to 650 easily

or even 700

[quartz gull]

I think the 4090 will be good at 4K until around 2026 hopefully

[livid idol]

It might be ok in gaming when you're gpu limited

[quartz gull]

I'm just said

[fading glacier]

1440p?

[quartz gull]

I've always bought EVGA

My XC3 3080 is gonna be sad to let go

[fading glacier]

love my g6 so far... quite af

[livid idol]

Yup, no FTW3 or Kingpin models this time around

[vital oriole]

give the 3080 to me

jk

[quartz gull]

I'mma probably give it to a friend for free tbh

[vital oriole]

nice

[quartz gull]

I have a friend with a 5600x build that's been waiting on a GPU for 7 months

[fading glacier]

my sister is giving a cozy home to ftw3 60ti

[livid idol]

Give it to me, my plex server needs it lol

[quartz gull]

He wants a good price 3060ti or 3070

[fading glacier]

the yeston one

seems ok priced

[quartz gull]

I'll throw the 3080 into a media box connected to a 1080p tv

[fading glacier]

https://www.newegg.com/yeston-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-gtx1050ti/p/1FT-007N-00038?Description=3060 ti yeston&cm_re=3060_ti yeston-_-9SIAZUEFE85514-_-Product

with a trio of case fans as well

and it looks kinda dope

[quartz gull]

Wow, 3090 on Facebook marketplace for $750

[livid idol]

I'm surprised it's that high tbh

[quartz gull]

2070 super for $240 is very tempting tbh

Some interesting prices as of late

[void heath]

@quartz gull hey how are you liking your 12600k? + When did you buy it an for how much? Im thinking about grabbing it new right now for 250. Thanks

[quartz gull]

I bought it at launch for $329.99. I'm on ddr4 with 4000mhz cl16 kit and it performs great, much better than my 8600k

[hasty sphinx]

12600k is amazing for the average user. I love mine.

[normal hawk]

:c 4 slot, sadge

But that's huge

[odd siren]

Mid-tower be like

[normal hawk]

Shoulda been 5 slot

[vital oriole]

bruh

that's very thick

[odd siren]

I don't like the fan side, but that backplate design is nice ngl

[normal hawk]

I wanna see it next to my 3090 lol. I have the Aorus xtreme which is also a 4 slot

[odd siren]

This tho
https://videocardz.net/colorful-geforce-rtx-4090-24gb-igame-neptune-oc

Hope it comes in black

[normal hawk]

Pretty

[hasty sphinx]

I want. I have the 3080 12gb Aorus Master and I'm loving it. I would totally get this one. Unless, you know, some other aib had a white one.

[magic wing]

@heady turtle look his cards capacitor didnt fall off

https://tenor.com/view/cat-grin-smile-smirk-awkward-gif-22382508

[hasty sphinx]

Is this the card that Pato had an issue with? But he recommended it to me D:

[magic wing]

Nah nah

pato had some gigabyte 3070 and while he was showing me the new 3060ti, he pulled out the 3070 to put in the 3060ti and a capacitor pops out lmao

[hasty sphinx]

Yeah I knew the story, and whew.. I was about to blow @heady turtle up for recommending me a card that a capacitor fell out of.. he's lucky it wasn't this one.

I woulda sent the world's biggest nuke on top of him.

[magic wing]

He forgot to rub his lucky potato before taking gpu out tbf

that was probably the reason

[hasty sphinx]

[magic wing]

How have you made that perfectly normal sentence awkward now

[river grail]

when is 4080 being released

[hasty sphinx]

Nov

No definitive date in nov though

[hasty sphinx]

Its my specialty

[river grail]

hmm

so how much do you guys think evga or msi versions are gonna be

probably like 1100

[hasty sphinx]

There is no evga anymore for nvidia

[river grail]

what

why

[hasty sphinx]

Also. 4080 12gb fe is 900 and the 16gb is 1200

[river grail]

ye ik that much

[magic wing]

evga no more

[river grail]

but like why tho

[hasty sphinx]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cV9QES-FUAM

[river grail]

oh

[magic wing]

tl;dr nvidia treats board manufacturers like crap

evga had enough

[river grail]

go figure

well

i mean

id rather have an msi one anyways

[magic wing]

F

[river grail]

what about gigabyte ones

how do they compare

[magic wing]

[river grail]

lmao

i mean its not that big of a difference but they do have some differences

[magic wing]

What

[river grail]

between fes and other brands

[magic wing]

lol

Theres a lot of difference between 2 models of the same card by the same brand

[river grail]

perfomance wise too?

[magic wing]

Yes

[river grail]

damn

[magic wing]

Which is why

[river grail]

whos better

[magic wing]

Every brand has good cards and bad cards for every gen

[river grail]

oh

[magic wing]

there is no single this entire brand is subjectively better than other brands

[river grail]

so just a more expensive one is prob better then?

[magic wing]

Not always

[river grail]

hmmm

this topic requires more research

[magic wing]

theres some 3090 cards that get beat by 3080ti with a great cooler lol

[river grail]

more research that im not willing to do 💀

[river grail]

damn

[hasty sphinx]

Lol what research is there to do? It's simple that model > brand

[magic wing]

indeed

[hasty sphinx]

Beyond that you just have to wait until benchmarks come out.

[magic wing]

model before brand

brand loyalty is dumb and only hurts the consumer

[river grail]

yeah but performance comparisons between better models vs other brands better models vs price

[magic wing]

so at that point why bring brand

just compare models

[river grail]

exactly

[magic wing]

thats the whole point

[river grail]

tru

but you can only tell which ones the best after benchmarks tho right

[magic wing]

Yes

There are predictions that can be made looking at previous gens but end of the day, benchmarks are important

[river grail]

yeah apparently the 4080s gonna be 2-4x faster than 3080 ti right?

[hasty sphinx]

Depends which on you are gonna go for.

There are 2 skus of 4080

[magic wing]

I refuse to accept that

[river grail]

im assuming the 12 gb is 2x faster

and 16 is 4x

[hasty sphinx]

I do too. The 12gb should have been a 3070 or 70ti