graphics-cards

[cerulean rover]

Lol

[hot bough]

I'd rather upgrade my main system before getting a test rig./

😄

Mhmmm, still need to decide as to what I am gonna do about a PC case for my next system as I need a full tower but all the full towers that deliver to Mexico has massive markup 2-3x + like a 150 USD shipping fee.

[fading glacier]

use the mobo box

😄

for real

[hot bough]

?

Please explain.

[fading glacier]

just jk, good luck getting a case

hopefully your options should be plentiful on mexico

[hot bough]

Unfortunately my issues right now are the exact opposite...

Most cases can't be delivered and the ones that can have extreme markup.

[fading glacier]

here on my country most of the cases are made locally... and those are bad quality anyway xD

[hot bough]

Ahh okay.

[fading glacier]

and cant import cause weight, so i had to digest a 5000x at 240usd, because the 5000d was oos and that was 6 months ago

guess what? still oos

seems like they are not importing cases for the time being, too expensive

[hot bough]

The sad part in all of this is that, I've always wanted the Cougar Gemini X case which used to be over priced but not in MX for some reason and I thought looked gorgeous and performed pretty well however due to this current gen's heat issue I need a big AIO which can't fit in the case and the mobo I found won't fit either.

[hot bough]

ooof.

[cerulean rover]

P500a should be fun

G360a, 5000d airflow, H500m

[fading glacier]

yeah, the other options were the asus cases, and those are terribly overpriced and extremely awful on the airflow department

this... is funny as hell

marketing do wonders on youtube

[hot bough]

This is the case I want the most, but to get it in MX would cost me a fortune.... $1048.81 in total for case + delivery.

https://www.amazon.com.mx/dp/B09TL7Z2DZ/ref=cbw_us_mx_dp_narx_gl_pc

[fading glacier]

just go to us, buy it and return with it as a hand baggage

easy

[hot bough]

In the US the case should only cost $500, $530 with delivery.

[hot bough]

Would end up costing about the same if I did that.

[fading glacier]

we do that here everyday for the same reason

we use people to haul things from there as personal baggage 😛

well... pay people

[odd siren]

I feel like the HAF 700 would try to take up more room than my 43"

If I bought it

[cerulean rover]

There's also the slightly less overkill version of that case being like H500m lol

But well

Big case fun case

[fading glacier]

maybe he wants that for the screen

[odd siren]

Lol

[fading glacier]

im just guessing

[odd siren]

Raspberry pi screen ftw

[fading glacier]

i dont see it worthy of that price tag

[cerulean rover]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fading glacier]

heck even a lil screen inside could work

[hot bough]

I like the aesthetics and the expandabillity it provides while maintaining very good temps.

[fading glacier]

yeah the raspberry pi

hello? 5000d? yeah, hold on

[cerulean rover]

I just don't really see any need for more space than like P500a lol

[fading glacier]

hey, someone wants to talk with you apex

[cerulean rover]

You can fit 2 systems in a P500a

5000d might be able to do the same

[hot bough]

If it works with you sure, but personally I distain really simply box shapes.

[fading glacier]

for less than half that price

[ivory herald]

I really like the P500A, just not the extra $50ish VS certain other good cases. white 5000D is tempting, and personally would just replace the front cover of course. I don't like white cases though , lol.

[fading glacier]

i mean, yeah, he have a point xD

[cerulean rover]

I kind of see haf 700 Evo as a box too

[fading glacier]

it is... with a display

😛

[hot bough]

Yes and no, if I had my choice with expandabillity I'd go Thermaltake Ah T600 or Cougar Gemini X vs the Evo 700 anyday but those don't quite offer the expandabillity I want.

The Evo 700 I found as a good tie breaker between, not just another box and expandabillity.

Assuming I could've found it at MSRP of course.

I also considered the Thermaltake Tower 900 but that one is explicitly for CLC otherwise you'd have a bad time with it.

[fading glacier]

well you have to look on the local market for something alike now

You will have to face a simple box with some expandability

[cerulean rover]

There's also the boxy but big meshify 2 xl

[fading glacier]

or the torrent

good ol torrent

[cerulean rover]

7000d if you really want to go that big

Torrent not great for rad support though

So technically expandability a bit bad

[fading glacier]

but he will be doing clc

[hot bough]

Hmmm, torrent can support a 420mm up front so I might consider that.

[fading glacier]

im guessing

[cerulean rover]

P500a does too :(

And 5000d

[fading glacier]

most big cases support 420

[hot bough]

Torrent looks a hell of a lot better though IMO.

[fading glacier]

i just want a torrent just to spray paint like the splave pc

[cerulean rover]

Meh, some of the design choices like top PSU just annoys me

[fading glacier]

was a beautiful black and golden style

[hot bough]

Okay, HOW MANY TORRENTS ARE THERE>

I see like 40 different versions on Amazon.

Wth.

[cerulean rover]

There's a small one and there's a rgb one

[fading glacier]

splave pc: the fastest gaming rig ever with a 12900ks cooled... on air

[cerulean rover]

From fractal design

The rest are different

Torrent front panel design is nice but I like td500 mesh for that front panel better lol

[fading glacier]

yeah the front panel of the torrent is out of the ordinary

but as you said the top mounted psu annoys me as well

[cerulean rover]

Its definitely nice and spicy

[hot bough]

Top mounted PSU is fine with me.

[cerulean rover]

I like it much more than 5000d airflow

[fading glacier]

how dare you

[cerulean rover]

I hate Corsair in general, their airflow designs kinda bad looking imo, from 220t airflow to 4000d airflow and all

[ivory herald]

top psu (torrent) annoys me just w/ how the overall airflow lines up w/ the front fans & no option to have psu fan upwards w/ some sort of vent.

[fading glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/dare-i-dare-you-i-double-dare-you-samuel-l-jackson-pulp-fiction-gif-12102973

[cerulean rover]

Also, it means no top 360mm radiator support

[hot bough]

👀

I may have been blessed.

[cerulean rover]

And bottom rad support is no for AIOs

[hot bough]

https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Helicopter-Styled-Tempered-CA-1Q4-00M1WN-00/dp/B084QH12KV/ref=sr_1_18?crid=200LSKWFDV0TP&keywords=InWin%2BE-ATX&qid=1661670746&sprefix=inwin%2Be-atx%2Caps%2C134&sr=8-18&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.f5122f16-c3e8-4386-bf32-63e904010ad0&th=1

The cost of the case has finally gone down to below MSRP

[cerulean rover]

Oh the copycat of the other thing

[hot bough]

• it no longer has a $1200 delivery fee.

[ivory herald]

except for a certain few specific aios w/ pump in the rad or something something (plus I want GPU to have a totally unimpeded airflow that's not preheated, lol)

[hot bough]

Question, how bad would it be if I used Lian Li SL Infinity fans on the arctic Freezer II.

[hot bough]

I love the outside of the Conquerer 2, hate the inside.

[fading glacier]

i hate the prices... and the case

[hot bough]

I drives my OCD off the charts to see the mobo and gpu tilted.

IDK why, it just does.

[cerulean rover]

It's 1 that I know of, version 2 of the MSI aio

[cerulean rover]

Waste of money imo

[hot bough]

Like, that's the only reason I didn't buy the Conquerer 2 was becaused the hardware is tilted.

[hot bough]

It's a cost for aesthetics i know.

[cerulean rover]

Like just get Galahad in that case

Don't even get freezer ii

[hot bough]

Doesn't the Freezer have a better rad?

[cerulean rover]

Bit better but if you're gonna otherwise spend a lot more money, might as well just get Galahad

[fading glacier]

id be more worried about the pump but... whatever floats your boat man

[hot bough]

Which would be better if cost was not a concern?

[fading glacier]

and the tubes... and the fittings

[hot bough]

420mm Galahad, or Arctic Freezer II?

[odd siren]

• tries to speak in LS720 but no words come out *

[cerulean rover]

Freezer ii...
With it's p12s

[hot bough]

What about Freezer II with SL Infinity?

[odd siren]

LS720 is comparable to the galahad and a similar price

[fading glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/sounds-like-a-dream-katrina-cunningham-sabine-trinkets-its-like-a-dream-gif-18412786

[odd siren]

If you want an infinity mirror

[cerulean rover]

Shush Ryan isn't here no ls720 shilling allowed

[hot bough]

[velvet grail]

Is xfx 6700xt good for 500€?

[fading glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/out-of-line-anthony-mackie-sam-wilson-falcon-the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-gif-21182970

[odd siren]

I thought blados was the LS720 shill lol

[cerulean rover]

You can get 6700xt around 500$ now so normal

[velvet grail]

Ok

[hot bough]

Hmmmm, 360mm AIO vs 420mm AIO how big a difference does it make?

[velvet grail]

Thanks

[fading glacier]

a lot

[velvet grail]

0

[fading glacier]

420 have more cooling potential

[odd siren]

It helps, but contact also matters at that point more

[fading glacier]

but they are a lot pricey

[hot bough]

Fully prepared for that.

[odd siren]

If you're forking a lot more out for a 420 version, I wouldn't call it necessarily worth it

[velvet grail]

For very power hungry CPUs it makes a difference but it won't be worth it for things like 12700k

[cerulean rover]

Ryan's name is literslly ls shill lol

[fading glacier]

i mean, not worth but it helps

[hot bough]

I plan to cool both the I9-12900K and the 13900K.

[velvet grail]

Then it'll help

[fading glacier]

altho, above 360 the reasonable jump will be custom loop anyway

[odd siren]

You will want a contact frame for 12th gen if you go that high end

[cerulean rover]

Anyways with bigger radiator it's mainly dependant on pump tbh

[fading glacier]

420, naw

[odd siren]

LS720 go brrr

IMA SHILL

[cerulean rover]

That's why bigger rads can make sense with like a d5 pump in custom loops and not in most AIOs

[fading glacier]

the bigger the surface area the more stress for the pump... so custom loop time above 360

[odd siren]

Also fpi

[cerulean rover]

Basically screw asetek for stifling innovation

[hot bough]

Hmmm, the reason I am concerned about going CLC is that in about 8 months I am gonna have to fully disassemble my system to bring it on a airplane with me.

[odd siren]

And yet asetek still suing everyone

[cerulean rover]

Deepcool ls has custom pumps, Arctic lf2 has custom pumps, Galahad has custom pumps, therefore they're nice

[odd siren]

EK

EK basic is nice

[hot bough]

I think until I return to China, I won't use CLC.

So for now, AIOs is the better way to go for me.

[fading glacier]

just go 360 then

[odd siren]

EK basic also has a good shape for 12th gen contact

I have a sample size of 3 tho when I say that lol

[fading glacier]

and limit your 13900 to pl2

[hot bough]

Yea I think until I am back in China with a CLC system I am gonna have to do that.

Also, by some luck finally one of the cases I liked is now for sale to MX for a reasonable price so that's great.

https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Helicopter-Styled-Tempered-CA-1Q4-00M1WN-00/dp/B084QH12KV/ref=sr_1_18?crid=200LSKWFDV0TP&keywords=InWin%2BE-ATX&qid=1661670746&sprefix=inwin%2Be-atx%2Caps%2C134&sr=8-18&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.f5122f16-c3e8-4386-bf32-63e904010ad0&th=1

[fading glacier]

then dont let it go away, prices are volatile these days

[hot bough]

I can use AIOs all the way up to 420x64mm or 480x40mm up front or 360x64mm up top.

Holy $#!T. Just looked at delivery date....

[fading glacier]

just in time for raptor lake?

[hot bough]

Won't be here till October but I guess that's fine. I can use my system as a open test bench in the mean time.

[hot bough]

October 1st-8th.

[fading glacier]

still in time for rpl

[hot bough]

True.

I wonder how the 13900KS will perform.

[fading glacier]

well bois was a pleasure to share this chat with all of you, goin to bed, cy tomorrow

https://tenor.com/view/my-people-need-me-gif-12275429

[cinder dew]

AMD got G Singh

?

[vital oriole]

did you mean g sync?

well yes, cause the huge majority of monitors with "g-sync" are simply freesync monitors

aka adaptive sync

[cinder dew]

no i did not get it yet

[cinder dew]

yea

[hot bough]

Ello my fellow enthusiasts.

[grim galleon]

Uwu

[formal fern]

'sup

[quaint gull]

anyone know how to control corsair ram, rosewill rgb fans at the same time?

icue picks up the ram but no the fans

running an asus prime mobo

[livid idol]

Openrgb should do it

[quaint gull]

thanks!

[modest stump]

What’s the difference between the 10gb 3080 and 12gb 3080

And noticeable differences?

[ivory herald]

2GB vRam and maybe 3-6% more performance depending on the game.

[modest stump]

Alright thanks dude

[azure cradle]

I’m tryna sell my old rx 580 and was wondering if there’s a way to check if it’s 4gb or 8gb without putting it back in my pc

I threw out the original box 😞

[ivory herald]

Some sort of sticker on there should say. Otherwise, idk.

[vital oriole]

look at the sticker on the gpu's pcb

or backplate

it usually says something like

OC4G as an example

The xG is the amount of vram

4, 6, 8 and so on depending on the card

[azure cradle]

think i might of found it, the 8g at the end

[vital oriole]

yep

that's 8 gigs

[azure cradle]

spent the whole time tryna read the barcode when i coulda just looked at the words lmao

[ivory herald]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-willem-dafoe-duh-duhh-obviously-gif-16794513

[azure cradle]

anyone know what the D means at the end of 8G?

[ivory herald]

Doesn't matter, look em up and they all say 8GD on the 8GB models.

[vital oriole]

it's just their naming scheme

no meaning behind that

[fading glacier]

you can also download gpuz for the future, it will tell you the full spec of the card slotted on your pc

without the need to open the rig

750ti besto cardo 😄

[random zinc]

Guy I dropped some hand sanitizer on the pcb did it killed my gpu?

[livid idol]

Was it on at the time?

[random zinc]

At power delievery?

[livid idol]

Was the computer on when you spilled it? As in running

[random zinc]

No

[odd siren]

Leave it off

[random zinc]

I tried to clean the pack plate I put a little bit of hand sanitizer on it and one drop got there

[odd siren]

Let it dry

[livid idol]

Then it's probably fine. Clean up the residue using isopropyl alcohol.

Oh just a drop? It's fine. Let it dry.

[random zinc]

Big drop

Not too big

Like 4/1 size of the power delievery

[odd siren]

You mean a vrm chip?

What you mean

[random zinc]

No

[odd siren]

[random zinc]

I mean the pcie power connector

[wicked hound]

For a second I was questioning if you meant this lol

[odd siren]

Big drop

Lol

[wicked hound]

Also, do you mean 4/1 (4x) or 1/4 (0.25x)?

Either way, should be fine if its off

[odd siren]

Just try to get most of it off without spreading it

[wicked hound]

Just make sure its cleaned off. Residue is not good to stay on

[odd siren]

And then let it dry

[random zinc]

Alr

[random zinc]

its not dead!!!!

[odd siren]

Is it dry!??

[random zinc]

yeah i cant see any

i just turned on

it works

[odd siren]

I would leave it off for a little longer

Just in case

[random zinc]

yeah i'll becareful next time

[hot bough]

What did I miss?

Sounds like something chaotic happened.

[vital oriole]

just some usual stuff

[cinder dew]

what is that difference between https://www.amazon.in/Sapphire-Pulse-Radeon-Graphic-RDNATM/dp/B09G3F8PM7/ref=sr_1_3?crid=ARZHEL3VA9CP&keywords=rx%2B6600&qid=1661937425&sprefix=rx%2Caps%2C362&sr=8-3&th=1 and

https://www.amazon.in/ASRock-Radeon-Challenger-GDDR6-RDNATM/dp/B09J8VCFWN/ref=sr_1_4?crid=ARZHEL3VA9CP&keywords=rx+6600&qid=1661937425&sprefix=rx%2Caps%2C362&sr=8-4

[heady turtle]

Pulse has slightly better cooler

[cinder dew]

OOo ok

ty

[slim salmon]

would the 6600 Radeon be an upgrade to a 1660 ti

[keen nacelle]

Imo I'd save a bit more, not a big enough jump to justify it

[slim salmon]

6700?

just lookin least expensive. but a good upgrade

[keen nacelle]

Here https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B9H7YJ/powercolor-radeon-rx-6650-xt-8-gb-hellhound-video-card-axrx-6650xt-8gbd6-3dhloc

[keen nacelle]

Anyone have any idea what gpu this would be?

Assuming oldish because of the vga cable

[hot bough]

All I can tell is that it's Zotac.

[cerulean rover]

kinda looks like msi to me

[keen nacelle]

Its a zotac card

Just not sure what gpu

[cerulean rover]

That shroud reminds me of MSI designs like 980 gaming

[keen nacelle]

Check the bottom of the ss

[cerulean rover]

Ye but sellers might mis identify, although image low quality, kind of looks like MSI label on the fans

[keen nacelle]

Maybe

[velvet grail]

MSI armor looks like

[cerulean rover]

ye

@keen nacelle 1060 armor

looks really close to me

[velvet grail]

But the vga is pretty strange, I guess Nvidia stopped producing cards with it decades ago

[keen nacelle]

cool thanks

was $100 and was wondering if it might be a 1080 or smthn for a super good price

they didn't know the card either so figured I'd check

[cerulean rover]

well

there's a lot of armor

[velvet grail]

100$ for 6gb would be good

Maybe...

[cerulean rover]

580 armor looks the same

[keen nacelle]

yeah fair

[keen nacelle]

yeah, but wouldn't be a main card

[velvet grail]

From the photos is not really clear but it looks like 6pin PCIe to me

[cerulean rover]

could also be 3gb

[keen nacelle]

so not worth unless a great deal

[velvet grail]

Cant you ask the seller?

[cerulean rover]

Probably need a better pic to identify better

[velvet grail]

Pic taken with Nokia 3310

[cerulean rover]

btw from the 2 pics so far looks like 580 armor rather than 1060 now that I look closer @keen nacelle

[keen nacelle]

they don't know what ti is either

[cerulean rover]

you can see how the pic has 3 caps on the left side by the io

1060 has 1 cap

580 has 3

[velvet grail]

Good attention to details

[cerulean rover]

actually

looking at all the designs, I think I've narrowed it down to rx 480/580 armor

[keen nacelle]

mr111 the gpu detective

[cerulean rover]

470/570 the pcb doesn't extend enough to show pcie power

hehe

[velvet grail]

+You can't really see the heat pipe on the photo here

[velvet grail]

Unlike in this one

But maybe it's just perspective

[cerulean rover]

I'm leaving that to the foam packaging

they're usually pretty snug

[ivory herald]

My vote is not a 580 because 6pin power.

[modest stump]

https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-rtx-3080-rog-strix-rtx3080-o12g-gaming/p/N82E16814126550?Item=N82E16814126550&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-14-126-550-_-08312022

Or

https://a.co/d/4ep8DuG

[rustic pulsar]

first one (ASUS ROG), its has 12GB vram, the other has 10

[modest stump]

Is it worth the extra cost

[rustic pulsar]

for an extra 20* bucks very much so

[modest stump]

Only issue is it’s out of stock

Lol

[rustic pulsar]

get this, https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3080-rtx-3080-gaming-z-trio-12g-lhr/p/N82E16814137711?Item=N82E16814137711&Description=3080 12gb&cm_re=3080_12gb-_-14-137-711-_-Product&quicklink=true $760 after rebate (pre tax)

[velvet grail]

A friend of mine just bought a 6700xt and it doesn't lock in the PCIe slot because of the motherboard chipset heatsink. Can it be removed? (And later changed with a smaller, low profile, heatsink?)

[fading glacier]

yes, chipsets generate a small amount of heat anyway

still, strange... heatsinks near the pcie x16 slot are small and low profile for that very reason

you sure is not locking because of that? maybe is conflicting with some sata cable, thats more reasonable

or are you brewing some strange experiment again?

[odd siren]

Depends on the chipset

[fading glacier]

i mean, as long as he put a heatsink again, no problem

leaving the chipset without heatsink is a no no

[velvet grail]

It's because of the card, too. It's chonk

[fading glacier]

still is very strange to have a chipset heatsink in conflict with the video card, mobos have standars for a reason... unless is an oem mobo

[odd siren]

Which chonker are we chonkin about

[fading glacier]

thats not a factor, the height is standard

[velvet grail]

It interferes with SATA cables if you out it on the 2nd or 3rd slot

[odd siren]

Red devil chonkimate?

[fading glacier]

no matter how chonky the card is

it can conflict with sata cables, yes

but not with the chipset heatsink

[velvet grail]

Oh
Wait, let me ask my friend

[fading glacier]

in fact on my mobo, my gpu blocks sata 1 and 2

cant put a sata cable there unless is an L connector

even on higher end mobos the chipset heatsink height is standard, im pretty sure of that

[velvet grail]

I was also thinking the heatsink was unlikely to be the problem since GPU have 28mm distance between motherboard PCB and the GPU shroud

Maybe more like 30mm

[fading glacier]

because the height of the pcie slot and the cards are standard across multiple boards and brands

unless, again, its a oem mobo

then weird things can happen

[velvet grail]

Solved, I told my friend to push the card with some more force, it clicked in place

The SATA connectors are however really close

Why do they make them so tall? Lol

[fading glacier]

taking out the chipset heatsink was a weird solution, and even more weird as a diagnostic

the sata connectors are ok, you need to plug L shaped sata cables there

thats why the mobos pack an L sata cable as well

to use on that slot

if needed

[velvet grail]

My friend thought it was the problem because it almost touched the GPU, it has a really thick heatsink but after all it just needed some force to get the click

[velvet grail]

But it's the connector on the mobo, it's two SATA on top of each other

[fading glacier]

still not enough to interfere with a pcie card

[velvet grail]

Many mobo have those. But usually the don't interfere either

Yep

[lone pond]

How do I go about flashing a vbios

[velvet grail]

They may touch the card but nothing else

[fading glacier]

why do you want to do that?

[lone pond]

Because my card reports "Input Not Supported" when I try to use UEFI mode

And this seems to be one fix for it

[fading glacier]

which card?

[lone pond]

Sapphire Pulse RX 570 4GB DVI Only

[fading glacier]

tried to reset the cmos battery already?

[lone pond]

The only thing that fixes the issue is reflashing the actual motherboard bios

But I still want to be able to boot into UEFI mode

[fading glacier]

ok, but you tried to reset the cmos?

[lone pond]

Yes

That's what I'm saying

[fading glacier]

hmmm what mobo?

[lone pond]

MSI B450 Gaming Plus

[fading glacier]

also vbios is different than bios 😛

[lone pond]

Yes

I know

I'm in graphics cards on purpose,

I'm just going to link a similar issue

[fading glacier]

well you have to download the new bios on a thumb drive following your manufacturer instructions

[lone pond]

I mean yes

I've done on that

The issue I'm having is not just motherboard bios related

[fading glacier]

so, you already flashed your mobo and nothing?

[lone pond]

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/help-no-gop-graphis-output-protocol-on-my-sapphire-radeon-pulse-rx570.287151/

the video card has no GOP and will be reset to CSM.

Instead of doing this for me,

It says "Input Not Supported" on my monitor until I completely reflash the motherboard bios

[fading glacier]

then reflash your mobo, thumb drive with the new bios on the usb bios port and keep the button pressed until the board start blinking

[lone pond]

Ok great but that doesn't fix the issue my guy

I know that fixes the card working

I still need the card to use UEFI

[fading glacier]

so, your mobo is already flashed and now you want to flash your vbios

[lone pond]

Yes

Because

I still need the card to use UEFI

It can't currently I think it might be VBIOS issue

[fading glacier]

and you have igpu?

[lone pond]

As opposed to my physical card?

Yes

[fading glacier]

then plug on your igpu, go to windows and try this

[lone pond]

Switching to that didn't work either, for the Input Not Supported

[fading glacier]

really?

damn

so, you plug your monitor on your igpu and keep saying imput not supported?

[lone pond]

Correct

[fading glacier]

tried another monitor?

[lone pond]

Yes

[lone pond]

Even if this did work I'd still need UEFI to work on my main card

[fading glacier]

you can use this video to do a vbios but i dont think that will solve your problem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3Yrzbi2-Vs

you need a running pc for that anyway

[lone pond]

I can get it runnning for a bit by reflashing the mobo bios

But also

[lone pond]

This is where I'm stumped

Or specifically,

Finding the correct GPU Model

[fading glacier]

use gpu-z

[lone pond]

Because the closest one to mine is listed there

Yes

I know

However,

Mines is a DVI-Only Mine card

Mines is not listed seperately even though I think its a seperate card from the one GPU-Z directs me to

[fading glacier]

try to get the closest card vbios available

[lone pond]

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/191558/sapphire-rx570-4096-170306

[fading glacier]

that match the clock speed

[lone pond]

This doesn't even have the same ram typings

🤷🏾‍♀️

Mines is samsung

[fading glacier]

yeah thats why vbios is risky, you can brick your card with the wrong vbios

you need one with clock speeds closest to your card

at least you know which one is yours to see your clock speeds right?

[lone pond]

Same clock speed, within the Vendor

Correct?

[fading glacier]

then its your call, i dont like it, and you know the risks

better to wait for someone with more expertise with the "input not supported" issue

maybe the solution is easier than we think

[lone pond]

hmm okay I guess

[lone pond]

If so It's close but its not the same

The only time I've ever even seen representation for my specific variant of this card is on pcpartpicker 💀

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/z9VD4D/sapphire-radeon-rx-570-4-gb-pulse-uefi-video-card-11266-68-21g

Yeah I found the correct VBIOS

[lone pond]

Flashing it just reported that this version of the VBIOS is already installed so

lol

[unkempt canyon]

Hey I’m looking to upgrade my pc I recently bought a 3080ti but my power supply doesn’t support does anyone have and recommendations? The card is 3 8pin while the one power supply I currently have is 2 6pin with one of them being +2

[fading glacier]

which cpu do you have?

oh already on tech deals 😛

[rustic pulsar]

could upgrade the PSU

[carmine rapids]

found this seemingly newer image of the Intel Arc A750 or most likey the A770

looks spiffy

[pine knot]

good gpu?

364$ plus tax and shipping so estimate probably around 390-400$ (CAD)

could get it from newegg for 700$ lmao jkjk i’d never spend that if i can get it for 300

[livid idol]

Not the best but if it's in a decent case it'll be fine. Good price too.

[stiff finch]

Just curious, how good is a gtx 960 at streaming? I found an old computer in my house that had a 960 in it.

I don’t plan on keeping it, but I do want to know.

[keen nacelle]

Not super well, I believe it's similar to a 1050

If you're streaming light stuff like minecraft, I'd imagine it'd be fine

[stiff finch]

Ah ok. I’ll just stick to my 5900x to stream.

[keen nacelle]

What gpu do you have?

[stiff finch]

6900 xt

[keen nacelle]

I thought you meant as main gpu

I'm unsure how that would work, ignore what I said

I'd wait for someone else to respond, but if you can get it to work properly it would be better

[stiff finch]

Well, if I couldn’t sell my old pc, then I thought I could use that pc as a secondary pc to stream

[keen nacelle]

Yeah def

If you're serious about streaming, dual pc setup would be a great idea

[stiff finch]

Ok

[unkempt canyon]

@rustic pulsar I’m hoping to just do that as I don’t have the money to get a new cpu. Does anyone have recommendations for a new pcu? Again my new GPU takes 3 8pins for power

[odd siren]

[uncut spoke]

Corsair RM Series, RM750, 750 Watt, 80+ Gold Certified, Fully Modular Power Supply, Microsoft Modern Standby (Renewed) https://a.co/d/gdsMoJ6

Corsair RMX Series (2021), RM1000x, 1000 Watt, Gold, Fully Modular Power Supply https://a.co/d/cY4AGQ3

This is the one I have im running it with a 3090ti and a i9 12900F

Lmao i even used my old 750w to run the 3090ti yes with the daisy chain too and that worked but it was as sketchy as using a molex to pcie X3

[heady turtle]

Good units but 750w isn't enough for a 3080 ti

Like technically it can but you're pushing way to close to the line especially if you're buying new

[fading glacier]

exactly

i wouldnt risk anything lower thatn 850w for an 80ti

750w could work but you are flying way too close to the sun

[velvet grail]

Would 170€ 980ti waterforce extreme be worth it? (Used)

[heady turtle]

I'd say no purely cuz that's around 1070 pricing and that's gonna be supported for longer

[velvet grail]

I also just remembered that it has 6gb of vram which is not ideal

[heady turtle]

6gb is plenty for 1080p

[velvet grail]

I'm also getting a 200$ 1080 but I was thinking I could keep the 980 as a spare card

[velvet grail]

Depends, it'll struggle in games like wz

And some others

[heady turtle]

Not really

[velvet grail]

Maybe it's not worth at all, If I need a spare card for other basic build I'll either use my 1070 (which I'm trying to sell) or 6600 if I can find a cheap one after I sell the 1070

[fading glacier]

you are trying to sell your 1070 but want to spend on a 980? wut?

if you need a spare just use your 1070

the only reason to buy that 980 is for a system to sell, like demonmit

[velvet grail]

Yk but the 980ti was watercooled and performs dimilar, I'm selling the 1070 for about 210€ and I was thinking if it was worth it

[fading glacier]

watercool means nothing on older cards rn

[velvet grail]

980ti + oc I thought could have performed better than my 1070

[fading glacier]

maybe, but why wasting precious money on buying something to use as a spare card while you have your 1070

[heady turtle]

Gonna have fun when the aio pump dies in that 980 ti

[velvet grail]

I didn't thought about that

It could

[fading glacier]

not only the support on those is about to end, but money wasted on spare cards for what?

same story for the 6600

why?

if you want a card for an emergency, just keep your 1070

[heady turtle]

Just get 1 better card instead lol

[fading glacier]

and use the money wisely, either for other things clearly more important than pc building

its like using my money to buy a lot of used cards to collect dust on a shelf

no reason

[velvet grail]

Ok, I'll eventually keep just the 1070
Or I can make some money from it (before the card drops too much in value) and later have that money to buy a better one

[fading glacier]

yeah, the question still stands.... why?

you already have your 2060

if anything buy a better card and use your 2060 as spare

[velvet grail]

2080 → main build
2060 → don't have one

[fading glacier]

ok, use your 2080 as spare

[velvet grail]

Nah
I don't think I'll change it for at least 2-3 years

[fading glacier]

sorry but i cant see the logic behind selling your 1070 to use the same money to buy another old card to have it as reserve....

[velvet grail]

Yesterday they were selling 100€ 3070ti on amazon.it because of a price error
And I didn't get one

[fading glacier]

its like getting a 3080, trying to sell my 750ti and use the money to buy a 1060 to collect dust as reserve e_e

instead of using my 750ti as reserve

which i would do

if my 3080 fails then my 750ti will hold till rma thing happens

thats the point of a spare

[velvet grail]

No, I'll just sell the 1070 and get my 200-220€, I'll later use that money when I'll really need for a GPU or other component upgrade
And I'll not get old cards

[fading glacier]

980ti is an old card

powerful, yes, but old regardless and about to lose support

[velvet grail]

Yes, I also didn't consider the pump that may be really old

[odd siren]

If the 980 is old what's the 750ti

[velvet grail]

The main reason why I want to sell the 1070 is also because it's not one of the best models, hot, has coil whine and fans are pretty loud
I could also remove the front shroud and put some better 80mm or bigger fans

[fading glacier]

just use your 1070 as a spare card or sell it, but i advice you: dont reuse the money for another old card.. not wise.... still you money anyway.

[fading glacier]

you are about to lose one friend, have that in mind before going on

[odd siren]

[fading glacier]

nobody eff with my 750 ti 😄

[velvet grail]

Don't risk
And don't insult 700 gen

Gt710

[odd siren]

We don't talk about 710

[fading glacier]

man when the time come, i will put my 750ti on a pedestal... and i will pass it as a family legacy onto my grandchildrens

8 solid years with me

still strong

[heady turtle]

Inserts your mom joke

[fading glacier]

you are threading on thin ice as well pato

[heady turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/penguin-hit-head-smack-head-funny-fall-gif-16306739

[fading glacier]

Look what i found the other day on some old boxes: a still functional 9800gt

probably the 750ti was the replacement, cant remember the exact details. only that my 7500ti was second hand from a friend, i gave him 50 bucks at that time... like 8 years ago

the ports tho, are totally rusted 😛 but they still spit video out

[hot bough]

My eyes! It's so old....

[velvet grail]

@fading glacier just noticed how not power efficient the 980ti is, 250w to get same performance as a 150w 1070
Hell naw

[pine knot]

nova mesh

[ivory herald]

Shows you how* great advancements (of efficiency) were in the past, but of course also just how OP pascal was from their predecessors.

[velvet grail]

Yeah, from AMD too. Processors like the athlon 4400+ (a dual core 2.3ghz) had a tdp of 65, meanwhile today we get still 65w CPUs like the 3600 but that are basically 10 times better in performance

Or even more

[stuck siren]

So I just got a 3080, I did a benchmark and got in the 0th percentile. My pc ranked 19th overall. I have:
Ryzen 7 2700
32GB RAM (Corsair Vengeance 3200)
Nvidia RTX 3080 12GB
500GB M.2
1TB SSD Drive (Boot)
500GB HDdisk

Is there something I am not checking? I know this is super difficult troubleshoot, but if you ask I'll show you whatever

[livid idol]

Which benchmark?

I can tell you your CPU is limiting your 3080 to about a 3060 level of performance but the exact benchmark you used matters, some show that better than others.

[fading glacier]

by 0 percentile and 19th benchmark.... smells like userbenchmark

[livid idol]

That was my suspicion as well, and it won't be very good at showing a bottleneck

!ubm

[dreamy dragon]

`UserBenchmark is NOT a reliable source of information and has been blanket banned in many hardware communities such as r/hardware and r/intel for what started as an anti-AMD bias but has spiraled into delusion.

In fact, they tried so hard to skew results in favor of Intel's midrange that they even cannibalized Intel's own high end. For example, according to UserBenchmark, the i3-9350K is rated higher than the i9-10980XE.

For a similarly convenient quick-and-dirty hardware comparison website, we recommend using PassMark instead of UserBenchmark.

PassMark CPU comparison: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
PassMark GPU comparison: https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
Want to know more?: https://youtu.be/RQSBj2LKkWg`

[stuck siren]

Userbenchmark

Welp

Ok

I’ll run passmark

Thanks lol

[livid idol]

Time spy demo is free on steam, and is quite a bit better

[stuck siren]

Ok thanks

Ill check it out

[near sage]

The RTX 4090 Ti is rumored to pack 18,176 CUDA cores, 48 GB GDDR6X, and can consume up to 800 W. If the power budget is anywhere close to being accurate, the RTX 4090 Ti will be one toasty card. So, the Tweet by Greymon55 regarding the cooler design seems accurate.

[cerulean rover]

and I'm rumored to have a 6969 ti with 69,420 CUDA cores, 69 GB GDDR69 and can consume up to 42,069W
:p

point is, doesn't matter until it actually comes out and becomes available for sale and reviews done

[fading glacier]

plus, thats an old rumor by now

later on was suggested as an experimental card, not a real 4090ti

800w need some nasa cooling, dont think custom loop can keep up with that

[livid idol]

Single rad custom loop can handle ~500W combined from CPU and GPU with a good 360mm but it'll be pretty hot.

You'd need a double rad just for the GPU if it was really 800W

[lament surge]

will the ryzen 5 3600 work well with a 3060?

[keen nacelle]

Yes, but if you're making a new build I wouldn't buy a 3600

12100f tends to be cheaper and is better

[lament surge]

well im trying to go for a ryzen cpu because the motherboarrds are cheaper and i dont want to bottleneck or go over 1.1k

[keen nacelle]

Well bottlenecking isn't an issue with either, because again 12100f is better, but compare prices between the cheapest b450s and h610s/b660s

If factoring in motherboard cost the 3600 is cheaper, go for it

[keen nacelle]

What country are you in?

[lament surge]

US

[keen nacelle]

Have you bought anything?

[lament surge]

not yet

[keen nacelle]

Give me a few min

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BwgMyK can get a 3060 ti instead if you need it cheaper

Or 6700xt if you're fine with amd

[wicked hound]

You know you dont have to go z690 for Intel right? Basic mobos are just as cheap for Intel as they are for AMD. So Intel is still a great option to go with for the most part.

[modest stump]

Check this out on @Newegg: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 ULTRA GAMING Video Card, 12G-P5-3955-KR, 12GB GDDR6X, iCX3 Cooling, ARGB LED, Metal Backplate https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-12g-p5-3955-kr/p/N82E16814487548?Item=N82E16814487548&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-14-487-548-_-09032022

What you guys think about this gpu

Every time I’m about to buy a gpu it sells out the next day

So now I’m onto this one

[keen nacelle]

Nice price

[modest stump]

Yeah

You think i should get it

[keen nacelle]

If you dont feel like waiting a few months, go for it

[modest stump]

Might just have to

Price is good

Check this out on @Newegg: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA GAMING Video Card, 12G-P5-3967-KR, 12GB GDDR6X, iCX3 Technology, ARGB LED, Metal Backplate https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-12g-p5-3967-kr/p/N82E16814487547?Item=9SIAMNEJ3S9862&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIAMNEJ3S9862-_-09032022

This is the one I was going to buy

And it sold out

It was $819

[cloud hornet]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-ventus-12gb-oc-gddr6x-pci-express-4-0-graphic-card/6472637.p?skuId=6472637 vs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B098TZ3RMZ?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

??? i understand ones a 3080 ti but why are they the same price..? any advice

or best card youd suggest for the same price or less

just heard bad things about msi cards so i am skeptical

[livid idol]

It's not MSI cards in general that are bad... Just that one

[keen nacelle]

Ventus is bad, gaming z trio and x trio are nice

[livid idol]

Still, I'm glad to see the 3080 ti getting so low

That gigabyte is a pretty good card

[keen nacelle]

Meh, $800 is fine but idrc when the 3080 12gb has been sub $770 for a while

Xlr8 is $740 I think

[livid idol]

I'd go for the gaming Z trio for $770

[keen nacelle]

Mm

Or 6800xt at $600

[livid idol]

Yes if you're willing to go AMD

6900 XT isn't much more too

$700

[keen nacelle]

What's the diff between the two again?

Iirc it's similar to the diff between 3080 10gb and 3090, if not less

Chillin I know they're two different gpus, just wondering the % diff

[ivory herald]

Could've glanced at techpowerups % list by now is all, lol. Iirc they're farther apart than 10GB 3080 is to 3090.

[livid idol]

Comparing the 3090 and 6900 XT they're basically even. The 6900 XT wins at 1080p by a few percent, it's dead even at 1440p, and the 3090 wins by a few percent at 4k thanks to the G6X.

[velvet grail]

Just bought a used 200€ 1080... Impatiently waiting for it to arrive and hope I didn't get scammed 🙂

[fervent sedge]

Hey guys what GPU would be best paired with this 2560x1080 ultrawide monitor? CPU is an i5 12600kf and I was considering the 6600 xt but if there is a need to jump up to the next tier of GPU i wanna know if i should do that. thanks

https://a.co/d/61EDgCb

[vital oriole]

sounds okay enough

[fervent sedge]

should probably specify i want to play MWII 2022 when it comes out

[dense cliff]

Anyone here have any experience with getting an eGPU to work through "unconventional" means

I got it all connected but whenever I put an external monitor connected via the graphics card it just shows a back-lit black screen.

[heady turtle]

You could go up a tier although 6600xt should be nice, keep an eye out tho sometimes 6650xt or 6700xt are barely more

[heady turtle]

You sure the laptop has thunderbolt ?

[dense cliff]

It isn't a thunderbolt eGPU its a very old ExpressCard daisy chain

[heady turtle]

Huh

[dense cliff]

The gpu works as long as i don't have anything plugged into the card itself on boot

Looks kinda like this

[simple mortar]

are there any cons about the rx 6600?

[fervent sedge]

yeah the 6650 xt is literally less money and more performance lmao

gracias

[heady turtle]

Np

[heady turtle]

Worse ray tracing than a 3060 but way cheaper and slightly and maybe 5% worse than a3060

[simple mortar]

i might actually get a 6650 xt

only $60 difference

[dense cliff]

Yay I figured it out with a 10 year old post xD.

I still only get 45 fps at 1366×768 on furmark with a 1660. I wonder what the usual scores are.

[normal hawk]

You'll be fine.

[fervent sedge]

[grim galleon]

Thighs

Yum

[wary tapir]

buy 3080ti or wait?

[fading glacier]

i should wait

at least after the eth merge and the nvidia keynote

there is a chance that those prices could go even lower

but that's my opinion

[regal grail]

6950 xt vs 3090 ti?

I know amd is cheaper but how does the performance compare between the two

[odd siren]

Gaming? If yes then don't ever get a 3090 ti

[regal grail]

Gaming ya, why's that

[fading glacier]

3090ti perform better, but you should take into consideration at that point the power consumption, so 6950 is the winner in both price and power efficiency

[odd siren]

Big waste of money, next gen is less than a month away

6950 also a waste

[fading glacier]

6950xt wins big time over the 3090ti

but both are a no no for gaming

you should go 6800xt instead

[odd siren]

When 6900XT has XTXH boards for 800 or so a 6950XT is extremely pointless

They're basically the same, one just has an unlocked memory slider

[regal grail]

Ya I gotcha. That makes sense

So you're saying 6800/6900 is plenty for gaming

[fading glacier]

just get a 6800xt or a 3080 if you are a hardcore nvidia user

[odd siren]

Or wait just a couple weeks

And see next gen

Lol

[fading glacier]

and the fabled big cuts

[odd siren]

Heheh

[regal grail]

Ya you think price gonna dip more when next gen drops?

[fading glacier]

ofc

they will dip more with the announcemnet

[odd siren]

Well more importantly a mid range next gen is likely gonna slap this gen's best

[fading glacier]

and the flood of cheap used cards on the market

[regal grail]

Makes sense

[fading glacier]

if the eth merge happen

[regal grail]

Lol hopefully one day

[odd siren]

If you've got the itching for top tier at least getting a next-gen at launch makes some sense

[regal grail]

Sure ya

[fading glacier]

rumors point to high end gpus by the end of the year and mid range on 2023

[odd siren]

4090 or 7900XT/7950XT will be quicc

[regal grail]

Lol

[fading glacier]

i have 1k stashed for a 4080 at launch

[regal grail]

I feel like 4070 should be solid whenever they're released

[fading glacier]

it will be, but not this year most likely

[regal grail]

Ya

[fading glacier]

and i waited long enough

[regal grail]

Soon (TM)

Thanks for the advice lads

[odd siren]

[fading glacier]

time to go to meme hub to hijack emojis

[regal grail]

I'll get nitro again one day 😎

[tall lichen]

So I have an RX6600 and whenever I run a benchmark on high settings I get 111fps but I see other youtubers have higher fps. What's going on on my end?

[odd siren]

what benchmark tho

[tall lichen]

The FH5 benchmark my bad

[odd siren]

111 seems not bad though

they might be changing some things like using RSR/FSR, power limit upped and a mild OC

[tall lichen]

Hmmm

Mild OC seems likely

[odd siren]

6600 has a lot of headroom, especially if you pick the right one

I got a 6600 up to 6600XT/3060 speeds

a good 20%?

[tall lichen]

As in pick the right OC?

[odd siren]

the right card

[tall lichen]

I have the xfx 210 version

[odd siren]

not the strongest card

definitely can get a little OC out of it tho

crank it to 120W in radeon adrenalin, bring the core clock up to like, 2400 min 2500 max

(min max are separate settings)

then run the vram up to max and set a custom fan curve

should work for a quick and dirty oc

[tall lichen]

I thought it would be better than the Mech2X

[odd siren]

it is

but not the best card

[tall lichen]

As in not the best version of the card

[odd siren]

ye

we suggest xfx over mech because of the cooler design

[tall lichen]

Sheesh. Oh well

Makes sense

[odd siren]

so you did pick better

but ye a quick and dirty OC will prolly give you a good 10 fps or so, then you throw in graphic setting optimisations

[tall lichen]

I suppose my PSU is good enough for it

[odd siren]

also for what it's worth CPU and ram have a decent factor into this

[tall lichen]

Yeah I have an I5 9600K

[odd siren]

and the youtubers are using?

[tall lichen]

zWormz gaming

Daniel Owen is another one as well

[odd siren]

well daniel owen is using a 5950x so

there's half of it

[tall lichen]

Hmmm

Pls no bully

[odd siren]

me no bulli

[tall lichen]

But I assume the same for zWormz too if that's the case

[odd siren]

5900x on his

so there's gonna be a little difference between a 9600K and a 59_0X

that's sort of to be expected, even though you'll be gpu bound

[keen nacelle]

They also likely have very good ram

Which can affect gpu perf in benches a decent amount

[odd siren]

yup

3200 cl14 beeee

[keen nacelle]

3600c14 better

[odd siren]

tuning ram has a significant difference

but you can def get daniel owen's numbers @tall lichen

[keen nacelle]

Could even be 3800c14

[odd siren]

just a quick GPU oc

[keen nacelle]

Or 3766

[odd siren]

nah they listed specs

[keen nacelle]

Ah ok

[tall lichen]

I thinkni have 3200mhz cl16

[odd siren]

3600 c16 and 3200 c14

ballistix and bee ded

[odd siren]

that's fine

[tall lichen]

So if I want I just need to OC

Aside from upgrading CPU of course

[odd siren]

read what I wrote here

it should work for yours cos I'm still playing within expected clock

it's in the gaming>tuning section of adrenalin iirc (I don't have access to adrenalin rn)

[tall lichen]

I'll have to try that then

[odd siren]

it really helps bringing up the minimum clock especially

iirc it helps the 1% lows

[tall lichen]

Where do I bring it up to 120w?

[odd siren]

in adrenalin

under tuning

[tall lichen]

Here?

[odd siren]

you got to change it from default to custom

ye that's it

crank it all the way

[tall lichen]

Up to max?

[odd siren]

yea, you should be alright. what's your psu?

[tall lichen]

550w

[odd siren]

should be fine

unless you have a really bad one

[tall lichen]

It's a Corsair brand. Granted it's lasted me this long

[odd siren]

cv, cx, cxm?

[tall lichen]

CXM

[odd siren]

nice

ok you'll be all g

crank it all the way, then go to memory and crank that all the way too, stick to normal timings

then core clock bring up minimum clock and max and set like, lets say 2450 and 2550

it'll target that range

then go to fans and try setting up a curve that increases up to max at like, let's say 80C

then try that in the benchmark

[tall lichen]

Like this?

[odd siren]

ye that works

then apply changes

then give the benchmark a go

[tall lichen]

This too?

[odd siren]

ye that's fine

[tall lichen]

Ok

Only got 112 fps this time

What I do notice is that running the benchmark gives of 70w

[odd siren]

[odd siren]

try changing memory timings to fast timings

[tall lichen]

Ok

[odd siren]

then try adding a bit more fan speed to the curve on the lower end

i.e more aggressive

[tall lichen]

I could but that won't boost frames

[odd siren]

it will a bit

since the card runs cooler it will try boost more

[tall lichen]

Like this?

[odd siren]

raise this some more

[tall lichen]

How about this?

[odd siren]

this one too lol

if it doesn't work after this, increase the core min and max together by 50MHz then try again, if it works and improves, repeat

if not, you'll probably want to repaste the card for more performance

[tall lichen]

Hmmm

But I just got it though

[odd siren]

you'll want to OC the other parts too if you want to go further then

my guess is the thermal headroom isn't as big as I guessed

which makes sense since my experience is with a 3 fan card lol

[tall lichen]

Hmmm

Looks like the only thing I can do at the point is experiment with the clocks

[odd siren]

pretty much yeah

[tall lichen]

Like the min/max frequencies since I'm getting the same results

[odd siren]

there's nothing wrong with repasting tho, usually gives some worth it results

[tall lichen]

I see

[odd siren]

for $5 of MX-4 arctic paste you can get a good improvement over stock

[tall lichen]

Also is it bad that the GPU latch is off

[odd siren]

latch? like the plastic bit in the pcie slot?

[tall lichen]

Yeah

[odd siren]

nah

it clips back in

[tall lichen]

Like mine is broken off

[odd siren]

it's good to be there tho

but just remember not to move the pc much without taking the gpu out

since it isn't being helped with the latch to hold it

[tall lichen]

It is being held by a screw if that helps

[odd siren]

does help

two screws would be much better

[tall lichen]

Didn't think I would need an extra screw

My max frequency is 2730 by default

[odd siren]

you likely won't hit 2730

you might get into the 2600's tho

low 2600's

[tall lichen]

Not if I turn it up

[odd siren]

no I mean

the silicon most likely won't get that high

that's the beauty of overclocking, you go to the limit of your specific sample

[tall lichen]

Hmmm

[lofty crane]

hey so I have a rtx 3060 and the geforce logo isn't on

[heady turtle]

What model? A lot don't have rgb

[lofty crane]

Well it has rgb

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-geforce-rtx-3060-tuf-oc-v2-lhr-12gb-gddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-46l-as.html

this is the product

[heady turtle]

Yeah the little tuf logo is rgb not the wording

[lofty crane]

ah ok

So i can't do anything?

[heady turtle]

Only to the tuf logo

[fading glacier]

you can stick an rgb strip to the card if you want rgb on it so bad 😛

[carmine crater]

Anyone on here can help me with gpu questions

[dreamy dragon]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[tall lichen]

I turned everything up and now I get 116 fps :')

[odd siren]

You're getting there haha

[odd siren]

If you clean up windows (kill a lot of background tasks) you should get closer

[tall lichen]

I did

[odd siren]

Then add a little CPU OC

[tall lichen]

But recently I've been messing around and if I disable shadows but mostly put everything else to high (raytracing included) I get 125fps give or take

[odd siren]

Maybe run lower detail shadows

👀

[tall lichen]

No like they're disabled in general

[rustic valley]

Sure what u looking for

[carmine crater]

Yes I was wondering if a nvidia 3060 would be better than my rog strix 1070 I got a few years back

[heady turtle]

Yes it would be although i would wait a couple months for next gen if i where you

[carmine crater]

When's the next gen come out

[fading glacier]

highly probable in 2 months

[livid idol]

October is likely for the 4090, November 4080, January 4070.
Just rough dates are known so far, but what is known is AMD should be launching more models sooner.

[hot bough]

Nice. Looking forward to the 4090s.

What are the current expected costs of the 4090s?

[heady turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/8ball-bart-simpson-shaking-shake-magic-ball-gif-17725278

[hot bough]

I'm hoping it's only about $1,500-1700 for some other models.

[old ember]

:8ball: | Most likely, Fal'Cie

[harsh compass]

Which company has best warranty on gpu’s Asus or MSI?

[heady turtle]

would prefer MSI, have heard bad things about ASUS RMA

[hot bough]

Which company makes the best GPU models usually?

[heady turtle]

a lot of them make great top of the line ones and trash ones

for example msi make ventus, one of if not the worst cooler, and they also make suprim and gaming x/z (trio) 2 of the best

[hot bough]

To my knowledge and correct me if I am wrong but are the:

1. Asus Strix
2. FTW3 Ultra
3. MSI Gaming X

[heady turtle]

mmmm

[fading glacier]

mmmmmmmmmmmm

i see no suprim on your list.... thats... sus

suprim is better than ftw3 and the x trio is better then ftw3

plus on the high end you have the hof series and also pny

that list of yours is extremely biased on popularity 😛

[hot bough]

So the list should be like this?

1. Asus Strix
2. Suprim
3. MSI X Trio
4. FTW3 Ultra

What's the hof series? Also wait, you're telling me the cheap looking pny cards are actually GOOD?

[fading glacier]

cant talk s*** anout strix because....

[heady turtle]

For NV Cards
1.Hall of Fame/ Kingpin
2. strix/suprim/ gaming x/z/aorus master/aorus xtreme
3. ftw3, XLR8

[fading glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/cocaine-strix-gang-strix-3090-rtx-white-gif-22429477

yeah, ofc , kingpins

kingpins and hof are top of the line

[heady turtle]

then theres more but i cba

theyre designed for extreme liquid nitrogen overclocking

[hot bough]

Kingpins I know of.

[fading glacier]

hofs are hall of fame cards

are as good as kingpins

[hot bough]

I wasn't aware of the HOF cards though.

[fading glacier]

you only found those on the high end

thats why you dont hear about them a lot

[hot bough]

Got it.

Thanks, Ravell, Pato for the new updated information.

[heady turtle]

probably because theyre very limited and not available in NA or EU (to my knowledge)

[hot bough]

What about for use with waterblocks?

Is the list still the same?

[fading glacier]

kinda

just get a wb for them, those high end cards are made for extreme oc

[hot bough]

My plan is to get a waterblock for a 4090 as soon as both are out.

I am praying I can get my hands on a 4090 for $1500-1700.

[fading glacier]

good luck on that

[hot bough]

Also I decided on the M32Q for a monitor.

[fading glacier]

you have quite the coin to spend on pc parts

[hot bough]

been saving up and working my ass off.

My budget for this upgrade is about $3500

[fading glacier]

between these and the loop and the cpu you are making som,ething like a 10k+ pc

[hot bough]

I plan to save up and put in some more for the 4090 once those are out.

[fading glacier]

well, 10k is a bit overboard, maybe a 7k+ pc

[hot bough]

5k is closer to what you're looking at.

[fading glacier]

dont think so

just cpu and mobo are like 1.5k according to your tastes

another 400 on ddr5, another 500 on nvmes

gpu another 1.7k

and the whole custom loop something close to 3k

oh, i forgot your 700 case

[hot bough]

I got storage covered already.

[hot bough]

switched to the tt tower 900.

[hot bough]

250

I used a calculator just now and every thing comes out to about 4,800 before shipping fees most of which are free now that I've got prime in mexico.

[fading glacier]

me, im happy with a 2k build. dunno if i can reach 2.2 till december 😛

but ill try

[hot bough]

that's assuming I get a $500 mobo, $700 cpu, and $1500 for gpu.

[hot bough]

I wish you luck.

[fading glacier]

ty pal 🙂

[hot bough]

But yea, this next upgrade won't be cheap.

[heady turtle]

eh kinda just higher power limits on the better cooler cards although a lot of the time its a waste

[hot bough]

Got it.

[heady turtle]

also spending 500 on a mobo is fat waste of money for not ln2 ocing

[hot bough]

Probably gonna switch to something else. But keep in mind these are rough numbers.

As I am waiting for the Z790 mobos to come out.

[heady turtle]

yes even near 500 for a mobo is a waste for a daily system

[hot bough]

In anycase I need to get back to coding.

Will see y'all later, I had fun chatting with you guys.

[crystal storm]

anyone got any good deals on an RTX 3050, or 3060? PM ME PLZ AND THANKYOU

[odd siren]

https://pcpartpicker.com/mr/newegg/D9ytt6

https://pcpartpicker.com/mr/newegg/nyH7YJ

[crystal storm]

NOT WHAT IM LOOKING FOR BUT THANK YOU KINDLY

[odd siren]

just as good cards for games for a lot less than a 3050 or 3060

as far as performance per dollar

[livid idol]

Might as well get a 1080 for $175, it falls between those two

[odd siren]

not a lot of life support left for drivers tho on a 1080, granted it is cheaper*

[ivory herald]

Nah, plenty. 700 series still has a "current" driver. Trying to play a brand new game in 2025 with a 980 or 1080, that's their problem . Edit: point is, somewhat a moot point possibly.

[odd siren]

That's exactly what I meant tho, it's a question whether to pay extra for more years of active support lol

[wicked hound]

Was looking to see just how much Nvidia changes their drivers for games as I recall them stating they wont be helping perf for DX12/Vulkan(?) games and saw this. Wonder how much DDU removes compared to this.

[ivory herald]

Doing that devicr manager way has always been funky. DDU removes more than what normal uninstall does, by design

[hot bough]

Is a RTX 3090 XC3 Ultra for $1100 good?

Looking at some RTX 30 series cards incase the 40 series turns out to have massive prices be it scalping or something else.

[fading glacier]

that dpends on you

is the price worth for you?

[hot bough]

Also found a 3090 ti suprim for $1500.

[hot bough]

Depends on whether or not the 4090 costs more then $1800

[fading glacier]

all of us will advice you to hold, but if you want one so bad, is your money anyway

no, depends on how badly you want the card

[hot bough]

I plan to hold out till 40 releases.

Once I see the prices of both I plan to make my decission based on the cost.

[fading glacier]

then wait

[hot bough]

Yes, master Revell.

[fading glacier]

any card above 3060 is terribly priced

on nvidia side

[hot bough]

I am a little upset at myself that I missed the chance to get a RTX 3090 ti at $1,000 when I saw it.

[fading glacier]

if you want a card so badly then by all means go ahead, in the end is your money anyway

if you want to wait thats also ok as long as is ok for you

[hot bough]

I plan to wait.

[fading glacier]

the general consensus is that nvidia cards are terribly overpriced

[hot bough]

Was just wondering if the cards I found were at a reasonable price as I am trying to setup backups incase plan A fails.

[fading glacier]

no, they are not

[hot bough]

Got it.

Question, would it be a good idea to open up a GPU and change it's thermal paste to get better temps?