graphics-cards

[hasty sphinx]

and I'm using Fan Control

[heady turtle]

Use afterburner

[hasty sphinx]

it does the same.

even with the Override zero fan speed option checked.

@heady turtle I gave afterburner another try, but it doesn't want to work. As soon as my gpu drops temps to the spot I have it set for 30% fan speed, it just stops the fans.

I have disabled anything related to gpu fans in Fan Control

[drifting sequoia]

is the 2070 super better than the 3060?

[heady turtle]

You able to send a pic of your afterburner curve?

[heady turtle]

Bout equal

[drifting sequoia]

i see

[little lantern]

Should i get a RX 6900 XT for 699$ Or keep waiting for the next gen of gpu's?
I play and develop games with a 1080p 60fps screen.
Is it a good price?

Ok thanks

[vital oriole]

gpu prices are dropping hard due to new gen launching soon

so yeah

[livid idol]

6900 XT @ 1080p 🤡

You'd be a lot better off using that $700 for a 6750 XT and a 1440p monitor

[vital oriole]

^

[keen nacelle]

I ran a 6800xt on a 650w psu at 1080p

with a 3600

not cursed at all

[livid idol]

Living dangerously I see

But at that resolution the GPU won't be using as much power anyway

[vital oriole]

i honestly can see myself doing 6900xt at 1080p

that is if i can afford it

[normal hawk]

I'd totally get a 6900xt so I could put HoloISO(Steam Deck OS but repackaged for other devices) on the PC behind my TV. Replace the 3080 :l since NVidia sucks on linux

[verbal mesa]

This is a joke website right?

[drifting sequoia]

after months of choosing a graphics card I decided to opt for the 6700 the only bad thing is that my processor is a 3400 g lo

[livid idol]

Could be worse, but not ideal. The CPU might bottleneck the GPU at 1080p but if you're doing 1440p it's not so bad.

5700X has been seen as low as $199 lately too, and 5600 at $180. Even the 5500 at $134 would be an upgrade.

Personally I'd wait. AMD claims AM4 isn't dead yet so we'll possibly see a new gen or at least a refresh next year on it.

[velvet grail]

Planning to power a 180w 1080 that has 2×8pin PCIe power connectors, it's going in a mini build with a flex ATX PSU limited to 1×8pin PCIe... I don't really get why it uses 2×8 pin even if it's not 300w or slightly less... Maybe it's for overvolt+oc since it's a watercooled card
The real question is... Is it ok if I buy a 1×8pin to 2×8pin? (Making sure the wire and the cable pins are 18awg or more

I guess it's not a problem since some PSU provide connectors from one 8pin PCIe to 2*8pin..., That's 300w draw summarize in one connector

I basically answered my own question

[heady turtle]

No

Just why do you hate your gpus

[velvet grail]

Wot

[heady turtle]

No 8 pin pcie power connector is rated to safely pull 300w

[velvet grail]

180w

?

[heady turtle]

^

[velvet grail]

Eh

Exactly

I'm not going to draw 300w

[magic wing]

well yes because ur not a graphics card

[velvet grail]

My MSI a650gf provides 8pin (PSU) PCIe to 2*8pin PCIe, the cable coming off the PSU goes directly to the 1st PCIe 8pin and the 2nd PCIe 8pin is connected to the 1st one

[magic wing]

gpu might draw 300W depending on what u have tho

[heady turtle]

Maybe he's an artist

[magic wing]

Ohhhh mans painting 300W

[velvet grail]

That 1080 is rated for 180w

[magic wing]

makes sense

[velvet grail]

I'm going to power a 1080 180w, I usually undervolt all my GPUs too

And no I'm not going to produce 180w from my body to power a 1080 @magic wing

[heady turtle]

Should be fine but is there not a pigtail or something you can use instead

My worry is a psu with only 1 8 pin probably shouldn't be powering a 180w gpu

[fading glacier]

still wondering how fabio always find ways to torture his pc parts everytime

like one day he have no budget for anything better, and the next one his budget allow to buy another part to torture 😛

just buy a better psu man

dont stress your gpu nor your psu trying to do cheap things which borderline into the danger zone

https://tenor.com/view/archer-coroca-dangerzone-gif-18530039

btw @heady turtle... completed the 12700f system for my sis bday... that pc is a beast

the asrock legend z690 works like a charm

👍

now im jealous on my 4770 and 750ti 😢

[velvet grail]

There's no flex ATX PSU with more than one 8pin PCIe on the market... Or if there is is probably 600+ watts and costs over 120€

And I don't torture my parts...

(with overclock yes)

Forgive me

[fading glacier]

you are trying to put an sff build on a tight budget... and sff builds are sometime even more expensive than normal atx builds

cant blame your for that

but torturing a 1080 with the 1 pcie experiment is beyond me

just... why?

[velvet grail]

Mine won't be more expensive than a normal build, all components are in a budget and best price-quality

[fading glacier]

if you dont have the additional connector then settle for a lower end card, or go for a higher end psu

dont squeeze the poor parts, you are putting yourself and everyone in your house at risk with your experiment

[magic wing]

ehh you overspend in parts and underspend in others

[fading glacier]

you cant power a 180w with only one pcie

you shouldnt

[velvet grail]

But I don't get why they put 2 8pin for a 180w card when they could use one + 30w off the PCIe MB connector

I guess

[fading glacier]

well, they know more than us, thats for sure

[velvet grail]

And those 30w more probably won't detonate my pc

[fading glacier]

because you need headroom to spare, on everything you build, electrical or otherwise

thats why

[velvet grail]

Yeah sometimes but I usually try to get cheap parts because I don't really want to spend so much on a build

(except for my main build)

[magic wing]

you dont have to build then

[fading glacier]

then settle for a lower card, or spend on a higher psu

[magic wing]

if you dont want to spend, then dont

[velvet grail]

[fading glacier]

its a safer aproach

[magic wing]

what card is it again?

[velvet grail]

I don't want to spend "too much"

[velvet grail]

1080 gaming Xtreme waterforce

Or something similar

It has waterblock with 120mm rad

Embedded waterblock

[fading glacier]

and then again, this will not be your primary gaming rig, you dont need that much gpu power

[magic wing]

that pulls 230W

[fading glacier]

you can settle for something lower to match your already small psu

[velvet grail]

It's for a build I can carry around for when I'm not home, I also want to be able to game on it

[magic wing]

• spikes

[velvet grail]

Oh

[fading glacier]

as far as i know you already settled for your 2080 on your main rig

hmmmm

[magic wing]

A simple google can get you power draw numbers for a specific card btw

[velvet grail]

Main rig has 2080, this one build I want a good card that's not the whiny, hot and loud old 1070

[magic wing]

lmao

[velvet grail]

I got the "rated" one from techpowerup

[fading glacier]

yet you want to power it with an insufficient psu

[magic wing]

not all 1070s are whiny and hot

[fading glacier]

like? ok?

[magic wing]

dont blame an entire card for you buying a blower style one

its a you issue not a 1070 issue

[velvet grail]

But mine has coil whine that gives headaches

I know it's an issue on my card, not all pny cards obviously

Coul whine can occur on basically any GPU

And can be different

And caused by different things

[magic wing]

but yes cheaping out on a power supply automatically makes your build worse than a dell pc

[velvet grail]

Dəll

[fading glacier]

thats the meaning of overspending on some things and underspending on others

you are overspending on your 1080 and underspending in your psu... you will end with a crappy system regardless

[velvet grail]

@magic wing I'd still be safe with 230 spikes, the PSU provides enough current on 12v to power both CPU and GPU at rated tdp

[magic wing]

just like you wouldnt cheap out and buy stale dirty looking food because its cheap or less food than you need because ur don wan spend too much you shouldnt buy insufficient psu

[fading glacier]

230 spikes on one pcie

there is no safety in that

one spike and bye bye cable along with half your rig

[magic wing]

nah the rail gives enough power tho

[velvet grail]

A spike doesn't last minutes, it's probably less than few second or less than 1 sec...

[fading glacier]

its enough to fry the cable

[magic wing]

well

[velvet grail]

No

[magic wing]

the cable will probably be fine

[velvet grail]

I guess I could have a 500w spike and be safe if it's like .5 sec

[magic wing]

it really doesnt need 2 8 pins, an 8 pin and a 6 pin will be plenty

but it does need that

[velvet grail]

Also the spike is "worst case scenario"

[magic wing]

real world scenario

[fading glacier]

in fact spikes are a common scenario

[velvet grail]

@magic wing find the max power spike for a 1070pny xlr8

[magic wing]

ask nicely and i might

dont order me around lol

[velvet grail]

Srry
Could you find me the max power spike for 1070pny xlr8?

Because after using that card and monitoring with hwinfo I never got spikes over 154w
Maybe spikes will be different on another card but I guess it's still fine

However you say I could plug 8+6 pin on the 1080 instead of both 8pin

?

[fading glacier]

doubt hwinfo can notice spikes of less a millisecond

according to google spikes on the 1070 are 75w over the tdp

[magic wing]

nope

[velvet grail]

Oh... However I'll be safe with those 1080 spikes, if there's enoug current provided by the 12v rail

[magic wing]

I said power draw wise it would have been fine, if its got an 8 pin, you have to put in an 8 pin

[velvet grail]

K

[magic wing]

Honestly, do whatever lol

[velvet grail]

It says total power consumption

For the system

[fading glacier]

no, thats for the card

max spikes on the 1070 are 150+75w

[velvet grail]

Read on the top right

Total sys pwr consumption

[fading glacier]

oh well, you are right on that one

i was just vouching for the google info i had

[velvet grail]

So you have to remove CPU pwr

I could slightly move down the max power slider for the card on MSI afterburner to make sure it stays slightly under the max rated wattage

+UV

[fading glacier]

but im pretty sure, if the 1070 can reach 225w in a spike being a 150tdp card, then a 1080 with a tdp of 180w could easily pass the 300w spike

[velvet grail]

To a point where I'm not loosing performance

[velvet grail]

Maybe...? Who knows, risen said 230....

[fading glacier]

yeah, who knows

[velvet grail]

I'll check on Google all the spikes I can found

[fading glacier]

you should check a better psu instead to power your rig, but i digress

[velvet grail]

I can look for one but it's not easy I've already served but almost nothing better popped out, unless it's 80€ more

[fading glacier]

well, you want a power hungry gpu, expect to pay a little more for a better psu... at least that my motto

its like trying to get a 3090ti while rocking an 850w psu

it could work... in theory

but most of the time it will shut down.... if i want so much gpu power then at least i need to upgrade my psu as well to give my rig headroom to spare

because my wallet cant allow that, then i need to settle in something more cozy, like a 3080

[velvet grail]

Here basically no more than 300 w spikes, with UV+ max power draw limit I could reduce them, however I'm looking for a "better" psu

[velvet grail]

Also the shutdown, controlled by OCP on PSU is my worry for better PSUs, they don't always specify and what if they don't have OCP or OPP

[fading glacier]

if they dont have ocp or opp then your psu will die

ocp and opp protections are built to safely shut down your pc

instead of blowing your psu

and potentially the rest of your parts

[velvet grail]

I chose bequiet, it's reliable, they specify almost everything on their PSUs and also most of them are reliable, theyre usually good but as always:

[velvet grail]

F ik

The bequiet PSU has OCP, OPP, OVP, UVP, SCP... Basically all you may want/need

[fading glacier]

in ages past the protections were a single fuse, these days are well built systems for that

[velvet grail]

Also to look for a better PSU that should support the 1080 slightly better I have to look on AliExpress or other different websites since Amazon doesn't offer many flex ATX PSU options other than bequiet and Silverstone

[fading glacier]

well, thats on you as risen said

its your choice, we were trying to talk sense into you

but you are hell bent on your project,then go ahead

my advice was simple, dont spend on a power hungry gpu if you cant spend on an adequate psu for it

either go into a lower tier card or buy a better psu... your choice at the end of the day

but pairing your experiment with a watercooled 1080... thats on you

[velvet grail]

I'm sure I'll be safe enough for spikes, I'll eventually try not to push that GPU to its max

[fading glacier]

then you do you man 🙂

[velvet grail]

I was more worried of constant 180w on one 8pin PCIe more than anything else

As I said before UV+power limit

I'll keep looking for PSUs

However I have time to buy the components

However what other program will let me see max power spikes since hwinfo doesn't detect them? Or do I have to use external tools, like some PSU testing stuff

@fading glacier if you know any

[fading glacier]

external tools for that, like oscilloscopes

and stuff like that

when the gn guys made the power spikes video they showed the tools that they used for the testing

[velvet grail]

Yeah, I noticed, saw they said 300w spikes for 2.2ms, that's not possible to get throught software

*for a 1080ti

Tha heck

[fading glacier]

maybe that one never saw light

[velvet grail]

It's in Nvidia basement

Somewhere hidden

[fading glacier]

oh no

[velvet grail]

8gb?
Lol

[fading glacier]

thats an april fools joke

read the end of the article

[velvet grail]

Yeah

"we're gonna launch the 1090ti in 2025, stay tuned!"

[velvet grail]

@fading glacier i could go for bequiet SFX power 3 450w and spend 15€ more compared to the other one. It is bigger so I'll have to redesign the case a little bit, however it's 450w instead of 300w, provides plenty of current on 12v line (approximately 37A) so I'll get more than 400w for both GPU and CPU.
And it has 4+4pin CPU & 2×6+2 pcie

At first this one wasn't really ano option for me since I'd had to redesign the case but at this point I guess it's the best option

[drifting sequoia]

369dlls 6700 go to pay?

[magic wing]

?

[drifting sequoia]

This

o sorry the capture has not been saved

I just hope I made a good purchase

[odd siren]

Did you update the psu

[drifting sequoia]

At the moment I continue to see which font is best for me to buy

I still need to update the computer more in the course of the year

but for the time being I already have the graphics card that I hope will be a good purchase and will last for many years

[glass helm]

Yay!

[karmic crag]

awesome, hope you enjoy

that first time unboxing experience is unmatched

[elfin apex]

a 3080ti right before the 40 series launch?

i mean, it's not a horrible idea, just saying you'll get more power with a 40 series card

[glass helm]

yea and a 1200 watt psu

ive thought about it but im not really good at trouble shooting pcs. this is only my second build

[keen nacelle]

1660 super for $80 on marketplace local to me

Might grab it for a friend

Figure it's a worthwhile upgrade from a 1650

[heady turtle]

That's nice yeah

[heady turtle]

3080 ti full stop since the 3080 12gb is so much cheaper

[glass helm]

cant find it and i got it new for 1100

[keen nacelle]

You in the US?

[glass helm]

most 12g i seen were like 800 -900

[keen nacelle]

3080 12gb is $720 right now for a decent model

Gaming z trio been $770

[heady turtle]

800$ yeah, 300$ less for 5% ish less perf

[fading glacier]

and now we are near the rumored "heavy price cuts" in the high end cards at the end of august according to chinese sources 😛

[karmic crag]

availability is also a factor

[ivory herald]

Less so than patience to wait a week or however long if needed to find a $750ish 12GB 3080.

[random walrus]

is 90C hotspot bad for a gpu?

[fading glacier]

depends on the gpu

[livid idol]

Nah that's fine, as long as the hotspot isn't like 20 degrees higher than other core readings

[heady turtle]

depends on the delta

[random walrus]

3060ti

The EVGA one with 2 fans

I put it in a small case and airflow isnt as good as my other case, I don't care if the fans are loud cause the cpu cooler is louder lol

[random walrus]

Yeah

[odd siren]

It's fine

[atomic crater]

Anyone else have a RTX2070 Super that random gives you a black screen for 2 seconds then goes away while playing games?

[vital oriole]

Try updating your gpu driver

[atomic crater]

Thanks for replying. I have already done that via the nvidia program. It still did not resolve my problem.

[vital oriole]

Okay, can you instead downgrade the driver?

Or run DDU to completely uninstall the driver and reinstall it again

[atomic crater]

DDU?

[vital oriole]

It's a tool

Display Driver Uninstaller

[cerulean rover]

!ddu

[dreamy dragon]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[cerulean rover]

i have learned the ways of the command

[dense cliff]

Is it possible to run a graphics card with two power supplies? Like I was thinking of getting a 3090 FE but my system PSU is only 850w. So i was going to use a 450 watt PSU for two of the 8-pin connectors and one 8-pin from my system PSU.

[odd siren]

What model 850W is it @dense cliff

[dense cliff]

Seasonic 850w Gold

[odd siren]

Specifically?

[dense cliff]

ill see if i can get the model

FOCUS-GX-850, https://seasonic.com/focus-gx#specification

page defaults to 1000w psu but has a dropdown to change it to the 850w one for techincal specs.

[odd siren]

Focus gx should be fine running the FE on it's own

[dense cliff]

yeah I just got skeptical cause of some people saying it had 480ish watt spikes. But maybe that wasnt a problem for the reference design

[odd siren]

That's with any decently crazy desktop cpu too

Spikes are higher actually

But it should be fine

Good PSU's have a degree of leeway to go over the power spec a little, so it may be rated for 850W but it can actually go higher, let's say 1100W? (No this isn't the actual number) before it'll cut off

[dense cliff]

I have an older Zen2 3900xt which has the absolute crappiest game performance i've ever seen but takes 125watts TDP

[odd siren]

If you're running it with that you should be totally fine

Not even slightly sceptical about it

On another note, why 3090?

[dense cliff]

I got a valve index a couple weeks ago and the 3070ti just aint putting out as good of frame times as i had hoped

[odd siren]

We're so close to next-gen

If that's all you need it for I'd wait a bit longer imo

Not to mention rumoured big price drops incoming

[dense cliff]

I wonder if frame times would be improved if my RAM frequency was better

[odd siren]

"End of the month" supposedly

Improving RAM can improve frametimes

[dense cliff]

its running at 1600 mhz for some reason after a BIOS update

[odd siren]

RAM OC tho so you tighten timings. Sticking to XMP tho? Yes but also not really

Ah ok yeah

Where did you see that, bios?

[dense cliff]

no bios reports 2100mhz but HWinfo64 reports 1600mhz from both DIMMS

[odd siren]

It reports half the actual rate does it not?

3200 xmp?

[dense cliff]

DOCP I had to disable cause my system would halt with a DRAM HALT orange QLED on the mobo

DOCP to 3200mhz

[odd siren]

What does cpu-z say

If that says 1066 then it's docp off

If it's 1600 it's running docp

1600 is unusual is all lol. If docp is off it should default to the jedec 2133

[dense cliff]

Shows Current memory clock at 1064.7mhz

[odd siren]

Yea so jedec

[dense cliff]

Love how it says i have "unlimited" max clock speed potential even though the DIMMS say 3200mhz max

[odd siren]

You can try a few things, if you don't know the type of IC's your ram is I'd do like, 1.35V DRAM voltage, 1.15 vSOC

And then try docp

[dense cliff]

Alright, Ill BIOS it and give it a try

[odd siren]

If you have instability and/or stuck at 2133 then the stuttering in VR could very well be related

[dense cliff]

brb

[odd siren]

Kk

[dense cliff]

Alright they report the right speed now :D. Couldn't find the SOC settings tho. Voltage is 1.35v.

[odd siren]

You should run a few quick tests to check your stability

Try TM5 anta777 extreme or TM5 PCBdestroyer imo

OCCT memory test, I think even OCCT linpack works?

TM5 is my go to for it tho but OCCT is there if you can't get TM5

[dense cliff]

Ill try OCCT, not sure why the download has a cooler master download and a regular download button

[odd siren]

Just a cooler master skin afaik

[dense cliff]

Should i use version AMD64 or just the default 2019

[odd siren]

I think default?

I've not used occt myself for ram testing

Just IMC and GPU

[dense cliff]

wow my AIO is a POS lol started the test and its already throttled xD

[odd siren]

Any errors?

Which aio btw?

[dense cliff]

nope none yet, only used the default 2048mb RAM option

Cooler Master ML360

[odd siren]

Eh?

You should check the pump speed is maxed

EDIT: nvm

It's not page file size but total ram tested

[dense cliff]

how long should i test for, default is 30 minutes

[odd siren]

Oh you're doing linpack lol

[dense cliff]

yeah going to try memory option now

95% for 30 minutes

[odd siren]

yeah do this

[dense cliff]

ok will do

[odd siren]

yeah the linpack test was only testing 2gb

[dense cliff]

Wonder if i should get a new CPU if i get a new GPU

[odd siren]

imo neither really worth it rn

3900xt still good, 3070ti high end

[dense cliff]

oh yeah i forgot my mobo is a bit older so i dont even know if i can use Zen 3

Not sure what Max AIO pump speeds are but under 100% CPU load its at 1670ish RPM

[odd siren]

that sounds low

I would check that the pump speed in the bios is maxed

like always

fans can be whatever speed but an aio pump not running as fast as it can is a big hinderance to performance

[dense cliff]

i was also worried about the pressure plate on the cooler being round instead of square but its never actually overheated so i guess its fine.

[odd siren]

nah that won't really matter, as long as it gives full pump contact

if you see even 1 error btw then you have instability

[dense cliff]

will errors just show where the green checkmarks are in the test?

[odd siren]

30 minutes is also a pretty short time but it'll tell you if you're at least terribly unstable or somewhat stable in that range

[odd siren]

ye

I would consider TM5 Absolut, PCBdestroyer or Anta777 extreme for at least a good few hours of cycles just to be sure

cos again, 30 minutes is not long

if you want to be extra careful, you do that while you do a GPU 3d test in OCCT which is running the GPU to warm up the ram so it's even harder

can use furmark for that too

[dense cliff]

if its stable i wonder if I could do an all core overclock to 4.7

[odd siren]

I believe all core OC on Zen 2 can degrade the cpu

[dense cliff]

ah

[odd siren]

since it runs too high an amperage most of the time so not the best idea

just stick to enabling pbo

[dense cliff]

what temperature is considered high on a RAM module?

[odd siren]

high enough that it errors

lol

every ram stick and IC has it's own tolerance don't worry about it

worry about it if it errors

[storm kraken]

hello, I'm trying to download the drivers for a red devil rx 6800 xt and every time I try to run PowerColor DevilZone after downloading it, nothing happens

even "run as administrator" doesn't change anything

nvm, uninstalling it and redownloading it worked

[fading glacier]

you can also ddu next time something bad happens on your next driver update 😄

!ddu

[dreamy dragon]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[sonic mural]

Personally would reccomend using the adrenaline factory reset over ddu but yeah

[wicked hound]

I'd do factory reset and then DDU. Risen has mentioned that DDU misses some AMD stuff that the resetter doesnt

[sonic mural]

Mhmm

Amd wacky

[magic wing]

Ddu wacky actually

[heady turtle]

[magic wing]

Yes

[sonic mural]

Probs still amds fault

Just like the hellhole of a voltage offset slider they made

[magic wing]

ah yes how dare amd not develop ddu

[sonic mural]

Mpt is good atleast

[past steeple]

Anyone know if l should get a 3060 that is $40 more than a 3050 that l got? I can return the 3050 because l haven’t opened it yet but would the 3060 be a better buy?

[fading glacier]

is a better buy? yes, absolutely

[past steeple]

The 3060 is also 12gb and the 3050 l got is 8gb

[fading glacier]

is a nice plus but the real upgrade isnt the memory

more cuda, more rt, more tensors, better memory interface

better bandwidth

[livid idol]

Irrelevant, the 3060 ti is also 8gb and is about 20% higher fps than the 3060

[fading glacier]

still a nice plus from 3050 to 3060

but not the real game changer between those 2

vram is like power supplies... bigger is a nice to have but dont affect performance unless you use it completely

8gb is more than enough for the resolution aimed at those cards

[livid idol]

8gb is more than enough for most games at 1440p even

[fading glacier]

yup, and the 3060 is like an entry level 1440p card

[livid idol]

Yeah it can do 1440 medium pretty well

[fading glacier]

in moments like this i miss my old 3060ti

[past steeple]

I just don’t want to pay that much more than what l originally did with the 3050

Before l got the 3050 l used a 5600g so will that pair well with the 3060 if l get the 3060?

[keen nacelle]

how much was the 3050?

[odd siren]

Sounds like it's time for the RX6600 to shine

[keen nacelle]

@past steeple

[past steeple]

I got it for $380

[keen nacelle]

wtf

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8HBG3C/asrock-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12-gb-challenger-d-video-card-rx6700xt-cld-12g

that 6700xt is slightly better than a 3060 ti

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9F6p99/pny-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-lhr-8-gb-xlr8-gaming-revel-epic-x-rgb-dual-fan-video-card-vcg3060t8ldfxppb then there's this

and to answer your question, 5600g is more than fine to pair with a 3060

[odd siren]

Definitely take that 3050 back for a refund asap lol

[keen nacelle]

100%

you can get a 2060 for $230 that outperforms it

and even that's overpriced

[odd siren]

Is this CAD?

Or is it AUD??

@past steeple which country are you in

[past steeple]

I am in the United States

[past steeple]

Yeah lol

[odd siren]

Oh yeah then no 380 is not worth it at all

[keen nacelle]

yeah please refund that

either of the ones i linked above instead

[past steeple]

I did want to get a gigabyte card just of how it would look in my build

[odd siren]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HWbTwP/gigabyte-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12-gb-eagle-video-card-gv-r67xteagle-12gd

[past steeple]

This performs better than the gigabyte 3060?

[odd siren]

Much better

It's within reaching distance of a 3070

Overclock it properly and it'll match or beat *a 3070

[keen nacelle]

far better

like 30%

[past steeple]

Ok sounds good. Just curious because l am new to pc stuff

[odd siren]

Np, before you go

What psu do you have?

[past steeple]

And my cpu being the 5600g would be fine with this?

[odd siren]

Yes

[past steeple]

I have a 650w psu

Ok 👍🏼

[odd siren]

Specific model?

[past steeple]

Msi

[odd siren]

Msi agf?

[keen nacelle]

mpg?

[past steeple]

I will look

[odd siren]

Cheers

It matters because we might say don't get that if the PSU can't handle it

[past steeple]

It is the mpg one 650w gold

[keen nacelle]

nice

good psu

[odd siren]

Yeah mpg will handle it no problem

[past steeple]

Yeah l did some research before getting that one

That’s good. Would that gpu handle a 1440p monitor if l plan on getting one? I currently have a 1080p monitor

[odd siren]

Ye

[keen nacelle]

yes

6700xt nice for 1440p

[odd siren]

It'll do 1080p anything

1440p class card

If you want a 1440p display down the road, G27Q

[keen nacelle]

or m27q/x27q

[odd siren]

Or if you see it on a sale like, sub 280, M27Q-P

[past steeple]

I like a single monitor setup so if l got one big monitor it would be around 32 inches. The 6700xt would handle that?

[keen nacelle]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-31-5-ips-qhd-amd-freesync-gaming-monitor-black/6483573.p?skuId=6483573 this is great if its still in stock

[odd siren]

Yes

The X32 Gorf linked would work fine with it

[past steeple]

Ok thanks for the help again. I hope Newegg will accept me returning in the 3050 even though its been a while since l bought it

[keen nacelle]

how long?

i think it's a one month return period

[past steeple]

It’s been longer than a month but l didn’t unbox it

[keen nacelle]

...

[past steeple]

I hope l can return it

[keen nacelle]

fat rip

[past steeple]

Yeah 🤦🏻‍♂️

You think they won’t allow me to return it?

[rustic pulsar]

could always sell on ebay/to a friend for something

[past steeple]

Yeah l could

[odd siren]

Sell at a huge loss

[keen nacelle]

no

[rustic pulsar]

sry just got here, why are u returning it?

[keen nacelle]

because he paid $380 for a 3050

[odd siren]

$380

[rustic pulsar]

hahhahaha... rip 💀

[past steeple]

I can email Newegg just to ask if not l could try to sell it

[stiff finch]

💀

[hasty sphinx]

never hurts to try.

[velvet grail]

1050ti mobile, what are safe temperatures for GPU hotspot? it's getting to 96 and keeps rising when constantly under load

(it's on a couch so the airflow is restricted but I made it on purpose to represent real life scenarios with "heavy workload")

[hasty sphinx]

real life scenarios under load will restrict airflow? Why not just test it with REAL real life scenarios?

so find yourself the heaviest workload you can that doesn't restrict airflow lol

if there is no airflow... of course it's going to just keep raising and raising in temp

That's like shutting all your doors and windows in the summer and turning heat to full blast.

[velvet grail]

I mean when the laptop is on your lap, the airflow is restricted since the vents are on the bottom

[hasty sphinx]

are you gonna be doing a heavy workload with it on your lap?

[velvet grail]

However is it safe 92 GPU and 100 hotspot?

[velvet grail]

Not always

[hasty sphinx]

that sounds like you are asking to put wear and tear on laptop.

[velvet grail]

No, I wanted to know just to see in the worst cases how bad it'd be with those temperatures

And it got 92 & 100 max, for the rest it stays around 87 & 94

For GPU it's not a really good temp since it thermal throttles but hotspot is good temperature?

[hasty sphinx]

well..

is it amd or nvidia?

[velvet grail]

Nvidia

1050ti mobile

[hasty sphinx]

hotspot being that high on either one is not good. But AMD would prob handle better than nvidia

[hasty sphinx]

oh right, I forgot I read that

[magic wing]

amd tjmax ok till 110

on rdna 2 at least

[velvet grail]

So is 100c max hotspot good? It stays like that for fee seconds, for the rest it's 94-96 under load

[hasty sphinx]

on nividia.. I woulnd't want above 90c

[velvet grail]

K

[hasty sphinx]

that's gonna drastically reduce the lifespan

[velvet grail]

I'll undervolt a bit

So I can stay safe every time

[hasty sphinx]

just use it like normal and use a undervolt profile for when you know you are going to be using it in bad conditions

no reason to lose out on performance when you don't need to

[velvet grail]

I'll do UV+ slight OC

[hasty sphinx]

that works

[velvet grail]

Is it normal for hwi64 to not read CPU temperatures correctly on a laptop?

[hasty sphinx]

why?

are you comparing it to some other temp reading?

[velvet grail]

It says 78C hottest core when it's 27C and sometimes it says 2C Min CPU temp and 100 max

[hasty sphinx]

sometimes mine will say 0c min on my desktop

[velvet grail]

Uh...

It's broken ig

[hasty sphinx]

I wouldn't pay attention to min

the others looks fine

you can always just reset the values

[velvet grail]

Not the thermal throttling, it constantly spiked to 90C on certain cores but they're wrong since it's not under any load

Also had changed thermal paste

Should stay under 70C with cinebench

[hasty sphinx]

well my cores spike all the time

[velvet grail]

Do you have intel CPU?

[hasty sphinx]

even not under load

yes

[velvet grail]

I never saw these temperatures with my AMD CPUs

Always hwinfo

[hasty sphinx]

just something in the background uses it for a split second causing it to heat up for that second

[velvet grail]

Maybe intel temperature sensor update more frequently and also show those small temp spikes

[hasty sphinx]

possibly

[magic wing]

seems like a laptop issue not a intel issue

[hasty sphinx]

I think you're just trippin a little

[velvet grail]

But the 2C looks strange

How can it go sub ambient

[hasty sphinx]

just reset values

it happens

[magic wing]

no software is 100% bug free

[hasty sphinx]

when have you ever known a software to be perfect 100% of the time lol

[hasty sphinx]

damn you.

[magic wing]

I am speed

techie rank meaningless

[velvet grail]

Yeah I know but for me it's strange to get these issues with intel CPUs

[magic wing]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-bobs-burgers-louise-evil-laugh-gif-5437628

[hasty sphinx]

Risen (but Techie)

😄

[magic wing]

You buy a bad laptop, you cant expect good things

[velvet grail]

But I guess it's fine, maybe software problem maybe hardware who knows, maybe it's not even a "problem"

[hasty sphinx]

it's not an intel issue

you're just pointing the finger at it lol

[velvet grail]

However as I said before it may be the sensor that updates more frequently and registers all spikes

Which is not a bad thing ig

[magic wing]

or maybe you bought a badly cooled laptop

[hasty sphinx]

or maybe.. intel is more accurate

did you have an amd laptop?

[magic wing]

or maybe the illuminati messed with that laptop

could be anything really

[velvet grail]

Maybe, anyway the laptop it's not mine, It's my cousin's it was a present, I'm now just undervolting since he told me it gets pretty hot and burns you legs when you're using it

[hasty sphinx]

thats.... any laptop

lollll

there is a reason there are labels that say not to use in your lap

[velvet grail]

I don't think there are fans that can ramp up in .1 seconds and cool down a 90C spike

[hasty sphinx]

when you repasted, did you clean out the laptop as well?

[velvet grail]

I mean it doesn't actually hurt you but it's not really nice to have it heating up constantly in summer
Lap-top

[velvet grail]

Yes

[hasty sphinx]

yeah, but warning labels say not to use in lap lol

[magic wing]

wellll

technically

[hasty sphinx]

also, did you have an amd laptop to base your "intel issues" off of?

[velvet grail]

Never knew, never had a laptop, my cousin doesn't read manuals, he's kinda lazy

[magic wing]

theres an actual heat standard that laptops need to pass

[velvet grail]

No, never had amd laptops

[magic wing]

💀

[hasty sphinx]

ok then how do you know that amd laptops aren't the same way?

[magic wing]

reor let it go

[odd siren]

AMD laptops get just as hot too

[hasty sphinx]

I can't. I gotta know the reasoning.

[odd siren]

Source: Me

[velvet grail]

They could be, but I guess I'll never know if I don't test one
However as I said already 2 times that may not be a problem

[hasty sphinx]

❤️

[velvet grail]

A good sensor that updates more frequently it's not a bad thing

Ok, I'll undervolt now bye

[magic wing]

idk about ur source bro

[hasty sphinx]

[magic wing]

testing one gives 0 usable data

[odd siren]

HWinfo64 bugs out all the time saying my g.skills are -256C

[hasty sphinx]

that is not the sus I wanted

wth

[odd siren]

What about me looks so sus?

[magic wing]

You will have to get the exact same laptop, one with intel chip and one with a comparable amd chip

[odd siren]

[magic wing]

otherwise ur just comparing cooler design in laptops not the chips

[magic wing]

I hope u step on a lego

honestly

[hasty sphinx]

one of the little single lego

[odd siren]

a stud?

[hasty sphinx]

that's pointing straight up

[odd siren]

[hasty sphinx]

I know I'm a stud, but please keep it in my dms

[normal hawk]

I hope when Radeon 7000 GPU's launch I can get a 6900xt or 6800xt for cheap for my console I wanna build.

[velvet grail]

Uhhhh
So... I was going to undervolt + overclock with MSI afterburner but I realized the GPU frequency drops when the laptop it's not charging, does the laptop apply a clock offset for when it's not charging? Can i change the freq/voltage curve? Or should I use some particular programs

Or does it use two separate curves for when it's charging and when it's not...?

[heady turtle]

Amd laptops : -200c
Intel laptops : 200c
Source : some guy on reddit : trust me bro

[heady turtle]

Lmao

[heady turtle]

Laptops usually get less power when unplugged

Just wattage limited

[odd siren]

I mean you can unlock the power if you want

Battery be damned tho

[velvet grail]

So it limits the max power draw of a component? (I know it applies to bot CPU and GPU)
Like if the tdp of the CPU is 50w it cuts down to 40 and the frequency drops together with the wattage

[vital oriole]

Yes

They drop in tdp significantly

It reduces performance at the goal of achieving better battery life

[velvet grail]

Did some crazy undervolt for the laptop gpu, got from 78 & 90 (GPU & hotspot) with good airflow to 54 & 62 under load with heaven benchmark

The GPU runs 1.8GHz with just 0.881v

[heady turtle]

nice temp drop but keep in mind you might be sacrificing stability

would test with more than heavenm

pretty lightweight

[velvet grail]

It's been going for 30+ mins

[heady turtle]

^

[velvet grail]

I'll also do furmark

[heady turtle]

would recommend timespy and furmark and a few games as well before calling it stable btw

[velvet grail]

Yes

But I had it to crash below .881 1.8GHz, and set the .875 to 1.75GHz, looks like it should keep it stable, now I'll start furmark

And I did notice heaven isn't using the maximum frequency, it stops to 1809MHz and doesn't go to 1822

However I did drop the consumption by 20 watts

23w instead of 43 with heaven

@heady turtle for some reason furmark is running with just 1530mhz is it normal? the wattage is pretty high however

Googled, apparently furmark is supposed to push the wattage tot he limits, not the frequency

(63C in furmark)

[magic wing]

overwatch best gpu stability test pog?

[heady turtle]

honestly

[heady turtle]

yeah no harm making sure all the freq/voltages are stable under some stress

[keen nacelle]

I'm just now finding out the 660m barely loses to the 1050 ti mobile

[pine knot]

12gb 2060 any good??

[heady turtle]

Around 2060 super level

[keen nacelle]

Depends on the price

Only worth if within $25 of 6gb imo

[normal hawk]

Can't wait for the 6800u handhelds.

[hasty sphinx]

I know this sounds ridiculous, but... can a gpu learn to run cooler than it was when it was first bought brand new? I've been running the same game at the same ambient temp for a week and a half now, but the last couple days my gpu has been running 8c cooler than it was the first week.

[cerulean rover]

Sounds like changes to the environment, like room temperature, unless mounting pressure was weird or something, or if the thermal paste has to set or smth

[hasty sphinx]

I see. Nothing ambient has changed. fans have been same speed. everything has been the same.

so.. paste setting sounds plausible?

[cerulean rover]

Maybe check clocks?

[odd siren]

Ssg master

[livid idol]

It's 5:53
How does that help though?

[hasty sphinx]

same clocks as it has been

[cerulean rover]

Smh

[odd siren]

I laughed

[wicked hound]

Should've been monitoring power as well. Could be changes in game affecting GPU power consumption

Also dont forget clocks =/= power consumption

[hasty sphinx]

yeah my power consumption has been the same as well

I monitor ALL that stuff pretty diligently

that's how I know my temps are cooler than they have been

I mean I have a sensor panel, I have HWiNFO up on 1 of my 3 screens at all times.

I use OSD in my game with my info at all times

heck even my GPU has a screen with the temps lol

That's the only reason I asked, because it seems really weird to me

[wicked hound]

Well if power is the same, then the only things that could affect temps are:
-GPU die to heatsink TIM
-heatsink (that said, should never be positively increased unless switching heatsink. Only way for this to change temps if it were damaged which affect temps negatively)
-airflow over heatsink (by fans generally)
-temp of air going through heatsink (So ambient air temp of the case assuming non-open bench case. Internal air temp can be affected by CPU cooler, case fans, and external ambient temp)

[hasty sphinx]

not sure what TIM is, but I get everything else. I'm saying nothing has changed value wise. ALL my numbers throughout my room/PC are all the same (except 8c cooler GPU temp) as they have been since I put the GPU in. GPU/CPU/Case fans are on the same curve they were on the day I put in the GPU. The same exact programs that were running from day 1 are still running. Nothing has been closed. My PC has not been restarted because it's my vaca and I've nolifed my PC with very little hours of sleep.

[odd siren]

thermal paste = tim

thermal interface material

[hasty sphinx]

ah ok

[odd siren]

or something like that

[hasty sphinx]

To me at this point what Mr said makes sense about the paste setting or whatever.

[odd siren]

my thought is the paste cured

yeah I agree

and it does happen

[hasty sphinx]

I didn't know it was a thing

[wicked hound]

I use TIM cuz it's meaning encompasses thermal paste, thermal pads, and liquid metal

[hasty sphinx]

ah I see.

The more I know 😛

Thank you guys for helping me figure it out. I couldn't get it out of my brain as to why

or most likely cause.

[crystal storm]

hey peoples, quick question, i have a 6500xt oc and i want to upgrade graphics cards to a 3060ti, also i have a ryzen 5 5600x, i think itll be a good investment, thoughts?

[keen nacelle]

What psu do you have?

[sonic mural]

If you can get that 3060ti for a half decent price, huge upgrade

[crystal storm]

noioce

@keen nacelle ive got a corsair rm750x 80+ gold

also have a deal for a 3060 12g oc for 350~

but if anyone has anything better im open to opinions

[livid idol]

You can get a 6750 XT for cheaper than a 3060 ti

[crystal storm]

but

but

[livid idol]

That matches the 3070

[crystal storm]

oh

well i like that

[keen nacelle]

Ye, or if you have a best buy near you they've had FE cards in stock recently

[crystal storm]

hmmmmm

[keen nacelle]

$400 3060 ti vs $400 6700xt, personally I'd get the 3060 ti though an argument could be made for either one

[livid idol]

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1704640-REG/xfx_rx_675xytbdp_radeon_rx_6750_xt.html

[crystal storm]

oooo

[keen nacelle]

6750xt around 3070/ti

6700xt is around $400 rn

[crystal storm]

ill probably end uip getting the 6700

[keen nacelle]

Don't feel like going to pcpartpicker to get the link

6700 is also it's own gpu, at $370

[crystal storm]

so i dont have to delete amd drivers

just lazy

[keen nacelle]

Not really worth it atm, 11% worse than 6700xt for $30 not a great deal

[crystal storm]

i love this chat

[livid idol]

Welcome to the wonderful world of GPU names, where the 6700, 6700 XT, and 6750 XT are all different cards within $100 of each other and very different in performance

[keen nacelle]

Also where 5700x is a cpu and 5700xt is a gpu

There's also 6600m 6600u laptops

With 6400mhz ram

Or 6800m and 6800u laptop

Also 5600, 5600x, 5600g, and 5600xt

3600xt, 3800xt, and 3900xt are all cpus, whereas 5500xt, 5600xt, and 5700xt are all gpus

[cosmic bluff]

this is only the tip of the iceberg

[fading glacier]

holy eff that leak on the 40 series

4090 already in production since august 16th

[odd siren]

Yeah but that 30 series stock tho

[fading glacier]

yeah like... they are still producing 60tis?

why... just why?

if those leaks are true, probably the 4090 will be ready at the stores by late october

so, early september will be the last push to sell those 30 series

[odd siren]

Ready to fly out if n31 is good

[fading glacier]

and late spetember the 40 series official announcement

i dont think the aibs will hold 40 series on warehouses till next year

if they are already on the factory lines

[odd siren]

Oh ofc they won't hold stock

[fading glacier]

seems like nvidia is preparing to tackle navi31 head on

[odd siren]

But they'll try everything to delay next-gen if they have too much stock

[fading glacier]

nvidia is way too proud to let amd hit the market first

maybe thats why those 4090 are already "in production"

break glass just in case of a 7900xt launch

[odd siren]

That just worries me tho, stahp rushing you nvidiots

I mean it's all speculation, but that would explain the rumour that the other cards bar 4090 have had their tdp's sliced

Since the 4090 already on it's way

[fading glacier]

yup, much like 4090 is already the emergency card, all the others can sit on the test bench a lil more

juggling specs every week

probably the next shell will be the 4080 by xmas if everything goes well against amd, or even next year

i mean, with just the 4090 on the street nvidia will keep selling the 30 series anyway

but all rumors by this point... effin corporations

and speculations

[odd siren]

It would give me more reason to wait for a 4090 kp if I went that route

[fading glacier]

not me 😦 im aiming at a 4080 or 4070....

but next year? no way, ill settle for a 7900xt instead

unless 4090 destroy amd

then ill reconsider waiting till january 😛

[rich wraith]

Does anyone think my blower fan is running a bit.. odd? It claims its at 1107 RPM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3Z9_VoMjT4

Just making sure, it looks a bit wobbly

For a year and a couple of months, 6/22/21

I'm actually experiencing crashes on it when playing games, black screens on the monitors plugged into the gpu, audio loops, but the monitor plugged into my igpu stays on

It never goes above 60c, so I'm wondering if I just need to set a higher fan curve, maybe the vrms are overheating?

[heady turtle]

What are the hotspots getting to?

You can use hwinfo64 to read

Also no harm doing a ddu

!ddu

[dreamy dragon]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[heady turtle]

Also you have a blower 6800xt?

Sure thats an aio 6800xt then

Instead of ddu, do factory reset in drivers is what I've been hearing is best for amd iirc @magic wing can tell you more

[rich wraith]

I haven't actually tested that quite yet, but I just got HWinfo64 and will be tracking that.

I think what I'm going to try first is setting a custom fan curve to ramp up the fans to like 2000 or 2500 rpm when it hits 50c, because so far I've just been using the amd tuning defaults for undervolting and balanced presets which keeps it around 1100 rpm. But I seriously appreciate the advice and will be trying a driver reset first thing if it crashes again! The crashes are so random though it could take a day or more to happen. Very grateful to you though!

[fading glacier]

If you are undervolting then probably the crashes are due instability, look onto that as well

Oc and undervolting can crash a card if pushed too far

[rich wraith]

sigh the last 3 amd gpu driver updates are lagging my entire system just when opening a new tab in opera or switching between windows!

I so regret buying an amd gpu

22.6.1 has been the only stable one for me

[heady turtle]

Then roll back to it

Also i would not trust any sort of auto undervolt or overclock feature as stable personally

[rich wraith]

I know but it reaches a point where I may eventually need to stay on the latest driver for features or security.. I can't do this forever

[heady turtle]

Security is not an issue with gpu drivers

[fading glacier]

[heady turtle]

It's only improved support for games/support for new games

[magic wing]

yes

[rich wraith]

But still in that case if it does apply to a game I want to play then I would want the latest driver if it performs bad but the latest driver makes my system perform bad in other areas

idek anymore

[heady turtle]

Nah just dont update if it's not stable

[fading glacier]

or kill your undervolt profile to see how the card behaves

still suspect of low power draw rendering the poor card unstable

[blazing echo]

Price check for strix 3080?

[fading glacier]

Use pcpp for that

[livid idol]

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/VW2bt6,X2YmP6,H4jBD3,gW7G3C/

Strix tax is still strong

[cosmic bluff]

I have the V2 white strix 3080 10gb and loving it but I would've been better if it didn't have RGB or if it was pitch black

[odd siren]

Turn the rgb off

That's what I do now lol

[fading glacier]

sometimes too much white is annoying

a checkerboard build is way better white-black-white-black

[grizzled nimbus]

i went back to 60hz and i cant see without getting a headache

[quick imp]

whenever I launch steam games it loads in and continuously zooms in, black screens, zooms out, and repeats

[random zinc]

loosing 10% performance?

[livid idol]

!ddu

[dreamy dragon]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[quick imp]

worked

[velvet grail]

Why are there different version PCIe riser cables (2.0, 3.0, 4.0...)? Is it like the same as Ethernet cables where wire twisting is important to get more bandwidth? (Aka CAT5, CAT6, CAT8...)

[livid idol]

Signal integrity becomes more important the faster the bandwidth is so they need to use higher quality materials and better techniques to get the riser cables to work at higher versions.
Similar to Ethernet yes.

[velvet grail]

Ok, I know this thing doesn't apply to hdmi cables for now, but will it be a thing for like 1080p 480hz (when it'll be a thing) or really high refresh rates and resolutions?

Like if they'll ever make 4k 480hz compatible hdmi/dp cables...?

[livid idol]

1080p 480hz is already very doable with HDMI 2.1

4k480 is 4x the pixels and will require a cable with triple the bandwidth of 2.1. I'm pretty sure by then there will be a new standard.

[velvet grail]

Okk thanks for the info

[cinder dew]

AMD got RTX?

[opal iron]

Yeah

[cinder dew]

OOOoooooo

[opal iron]

It depends on the car

All 6000 series have it although i wouldn’t recommend using it on a RX 6600 and lower

[magic wing]

i wouldnt recommend using it on a 3090

theres just no point really

lol

[fading glacier]

rt no point on this gen

[opal iron]

Except for minecraft

Thats the only game where it makes a difference

[magic wing]

and control

but even then

shaders come real close anyway in minecraft

[opal iron]

Ray tracing is only for bedrock

[odd siren]

What does that mean

I've heard it so many times

Like bedrock the only thing in the game that changes or

[opal iron]

Theres 2 types of minecraft, minecraft bedrock and minecraft java

Bedrock is the cross platform version

[odd siren]

O

I played minecraft once for an hour 10 years ago and never went back to it

[opal iron]

Where you can play with console and mobile users and java is the pc only version that can be modded

[odd siren]

I learned something

[fading glacier]

that make two of us

👀

also thought that bedrock was the tile where rt is relevant

my my

[odd siren]

Man I feel so old all of a sudden

[fading glacier]

join the club

[odd siren]

What do you think sir ravell

Indood

[fading glacier]

[cinder dew]

AMD got DLSS?

[fading glacier]

no

dlss is an nvidia feature

amd have fsr

[odd siren]

And RSR

[fading glacier]

which is similar

[cinder dew]

what is Far

fsr*

[fading glacier]

is the same as dlss

[odd siren]

Far is a long way away

[fading glacier]

but on amd

[odd siren]

[cinder dew]

Oooo

[fading glacier]

hahahaha that one was good

[cinder dew]

can i use Amd gpu with i3 12100 or should i get a AMd cpu

[fading glacier]

yes you can

[cinder dew]

what is better

[fading glacier]

either one is good

12100f is more than enough even for a 3090

[cinder dew]

i know u can i mean what is better

but i am not that rice

[fading glacier]

its an example

[cinder dew]

but i am geting RX 6600

[fading glacier]

you can pair any existant modern gpu with a 12100f without problems

that includes the 6600

[odd siren]

Rrriiiissseeeennnn

[fading glacier]

yeah im thinking the same

give him time

xD

damn, im goin to steal all your emojis

[cinder dew]

yea but what is better like if i use a AMD cPU anD A AMD GPU

[fading glacier]

intel is way better rn

[odd siren]

No

[cinder dew]

Ooooooo

[odd siren]

Don't think that way, think which cpu is faster

12th gen is good rn

[cinder dew]

DONT TALK THAT

[fading glacier]

these days we usually recommend 12th gen over amd unless the one looking for advice already owns an amd mobo

12th gen is faster than 5000 amd cpus

generally speaking

[cinder dew]

ok i get a 12th

GANNNNNNNNNNn

[odd siren]

[cinder dew]

[fading glacier]

i think risen was kidnapped 😛

[odd siren]

The cat took control of his head this time

[magic wing]

honestly yeah

[magic wing]

my other cat is also on my lap now

[fading glacier]

maybe you are the cat -.-!

where is our friend? answer fiend!

[odd siren]

Risen is rising amongst the cats

[cinder dew]

😮

NO

I mean 😮

BRUH

:OOO

[odd siren]

[cinder dew]

https://www.amazon.in/ASRock-Radeon-Challenger-GDDR6-RDNATM/dp/B09J8VCFWN/ref=sr_1_3?crid=B7O14V70EUNP&keywords=rx+6600&qid=1661517541&s=computers&sprefix=RX+66%2Ccomputers%2C276&sr=1-3 what better

https://www.amazon.in/MSI-Radeon-Armor-Gaming-Graphic/dp/B09N9QB7S2/ref=sr_1_5?crid=B7O14V70EUNP&keywords=rx+6600&qid=1661517541&s=computers&sprefix=RX+66%2Ccomputers%2C276&sr=1-5

[fading glacier]

both are good, choose the cheapest

[cinder dew]

.

[odd siren]

Cheapest genuine seller

[cinder dew]

ok

[cinder dew]

But what is BeTTer

[odd siren]

Choosing the cheapest genuine seller is the better choice

As ravell said both are good

[cinder dew]

i gtg bye i come in 1 hr

[odd siren]

lol

[fading glacier]

hey felix, id love your opinion/choices on a pcpp for this: budget 1.8k on us only for mobo, cpu, ram, cooler and gpu

[cinder dew]

lol he still tysing i gtg bye

[fading glacier]

cy later man

[odd siren]

Sounding like a 12400F-12700F 6900XT build

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BNQVLs

Could get an lf2 360 if you want to

[fading glacier]

hey bacca, gud morning 🙂

[keen nacelle]

Morning

[fading glacier]

yeah, its like an exercise in case i fail to reach rpl

[keen nacelle]

Well, 13700 will likely beat 12900 in both multi core and single core

[fading glacier]

damn, that build is beautiful

yeah probably fit a lf2 360 there

and all of that could easily be within the 850g6 coverage, ill save that list 🙂

[odd siren]

I was 2slow4u

[fading glacier]

you cant beat bacca-san speed on pcpp

and none of us can beat pato-sama anyway

[odd siren]

I had picked that 12600KF too

6+4e for 220 too good

[fading glacier]

i can fit an mp33 2tb there as well

just because

[odd siren]

Adata swordfish has a heatsink for the same price/perf

[fading glacier]

in fact maaaaybe shrink the 12900 for a 600k and stretch a bit for an 80ti or even a 90

[odd siren]

Could

I would pocket it tho tbh

Diminishing returns

[fading glacier]

true

hmmm

that could mean a 4k monitor down the line

[odd siren]

Farthest I would stretch on a gaming build would be like an OCF or red devil ultimate for 799

120 over a gaming X but also XTXH so a good 10%-ish in that 120

But a 3080 12gb will still be in that same league

And you can do more with a 3080

[fading glacier]

yeah you are right, the 3080 tuf is ok, and i can shrink the 900 for a 600k and save the rest for a 4k monitor in a couple moths

[odd siren]

Yeah, that's a good idea

4K if you go big screen

[fading glacier]

still im comfortable with my g32qc

[odd siren]

1440p if 27" or so

[fading glacier]

that 4k should be as a secondary for movies

[odd siren]

Ah i c

[fading glacier]

hmmm now im tempted

need to resist a couple more months

[odd siren]

Reo had issues with the 12gb tuf just a heads up

Might be better to seek an alternative model

[fading glacier]

right i forgot that

acouple more bucks for the strix in that case

800

[odd siren]

Strix would be good for 800

[fading glacier]

ill keep an eye for any deals with the bazooka and an LF2 360 for now

[odd siren]

LS720 is in that LFII 360 range

It also has a white variant and is at this point known to be similar perf

[fading glacier]

still too few reviews to beat the lf2 , not fully convinced

[odd siren]

Yeah it's not definite, but there's enough info that it's on the good side of perf rn

[fading glacier]

the infinity mirror is kinda cool tho

yeah performance wise seems on par with lf2 plus rgb

its a possibility as well

maybe ill end up buying everything but the cpu

or take the i3 route while rpl arrives

[odd siren]

[fading glacier]

yeah looks gorgeous, and go well with my white 5000x D:

T_T

effin white tax

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j9r76r modded on bacca original list... now im very tempted

[vital oriole]

ooo

[fading glacier]

200 free for a nvme maybe 😛 or to go for a z690

[odd siren]

Use a z690 or stay 12700f

Or 12600kf+b660m

[vital oriole]

tfw 13900 leaked with 5.6 ghz boost

[odd siren]

6ghz daily?

6ghz bclk oc?

[fading glacier]

if i go 12100f then ill have 500 spare for a rpl replacement

hmmm

[vital oriole]

13900k is already 5.8 boost

so 6 is easy im sure

[fading glacier]

👀

and thats on pl2