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rugged thunder
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I like Nvidia but my wallet doesn't like the prices

jaunty mango
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Nvidia likes you too

rugged thunder
livid idol
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Don't feel like getting that $1000 3090 ti then I'm guessing

rugged thunder
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3090ti at 1080p

livid idol
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I feel bad for anyone that bought a 3090 ti for anywhere close to msrp

rugged thunder
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At 1440p it seems like amd is the choice that makes more sense

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Just gaming mind you

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I know productivity is in Nvidia's favour

livid idol
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Nvidia also gets a significant lead in 4k with their better memory bandwidth

rugged thunder
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Yeah

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"It sits between the 3070 and 6800, at better value then both of them"

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Is the quote I'm taking from this video

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If you don't care for RT, the 6700xt is a strong high framerate card at 1440p

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Considering a 6800 is like

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$600ish

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Qns the 6700xt is $450

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There's this

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Dunno much about the 6750xt tho

livid idol
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If the $50 is worth 5 fps to you (~6%) at 1440 go for it

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The screen grabs above are from the 6750 XT review

rugged thunder
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what if I just OC the 6700xt

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Yeah doesn't seem like a large enough jump

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Is there a "best model" of 6700xt?

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Or nah

livid idol
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Not really. Just avoid the mech 2x

rugged thunder
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This a good brand or nah

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Or should I go for someone else

vital oriole
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yep

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it's good

heady turtle
rugged thunder
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Looks ugly but if it stays cool

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There's one for $30 more

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Has next day shipping but I don't think $30 is worth waiting one less day

heady turtle
rugged thunder
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For tbid one

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Is the gigabyte one specifically really good?

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An xfx model is the same price but faster shipping

jaunty mango
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Personally shipping doesn’t matter if your getting an objectively better card

rugged thunder
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Is the gigabyte one just that much better?

jaunty mango
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Idk

rugged thunder
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Someone said there wasn't a best 6700xt

vital oriole
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sapphire pulse is gud

jaunty mango
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All I know is that typically the different models don’t have a massive difference

vital oriole
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anything is fine

jaunty mango
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Besides cooling and vrms

vital oriole
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but avoid msi mech 2x

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for 6700xt lineup

jaunty mango
rugged thunder
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I mean if the gigabyte runs coolest or something like that

jaunty mango
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Some have better cooling and power delivery than others

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But unless your over clocking anything with decent cooling will be fine

rugged thunder
# rugged thunder An xfx model is the same price but faster shipping
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this was it

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The gigabyte looks better visually

jaunty mango
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Yea

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Well it’s kinda up to you

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There isn’t a sizeable difference between manufacturers

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Besides the msi mech 2x

rugged thunder
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I currently have a XFX so there could be bias there

jaunty mango
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lol

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Well if you want the xfx and you can get it shipped faster I’d say go for it

rugged thunder
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I can wait a day

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The eagle just looks nicer

jaunty mango
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Aight

rugged thunder
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Lemme see if there's any cooling comparisons

jaunty mango
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Well then get the gigabyte

rugged thunder
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If the gigabyte is cooler it's the obvious pick

jaunty mango
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Yep

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I’d imagine you could look at a performance video on both cards and they will show temp graphs

heady turtle
rugged thunder
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screenshots from a video comparing 6700xt

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Although the xfx make in video is a more expensive model then the one I looked at

heady turtle
rugged thunder
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I know

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Temps is what I was wondering about

heady turtle
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Also stock fan curves suck

rugged thunder
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I was choosing between the
XFX 6700xt
And
Gigabyte 6700xt

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Thermals being a factor

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And the gigabyte seems to run pretty cool

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dunno why this model specifically is more expensive tho

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yuh

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Why is one of them $100 more then the rest

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and who is buying it

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So makes don't seem to matter

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some are just better at cooling or less powerdraw

rugged thunder
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Everything was fine except cyberpunk (duh) at ultrra

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I would play on high tho so

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I think this settles it for me

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6700xt

rugged thunder
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Are hellhound cards okay?

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Might get the hellhound 6700xt

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Cheapest 6700xt on Amazon

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$430

hot folio
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I loved my hellhound

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Very solid card

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Only thing is it only has blue LEDs

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Not RGB

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And they’re turned on and off using a switch on the side of the card

rugged thunder
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I don't care for rgb

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Or leds

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You think its worth the pricetag?

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Very tempting

hot folio
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It’s below MSRP

obsidian compass
heady turtle
rugged thunder
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Imma nab it

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Try something different then Xfx

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"Yeah I want the slower shipping"

cerulean rover
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Amazon is trying all they can to try and make people put less strain on their logistcs

rugged thunder
tall lichen
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I thought of something. Is it worth the extra $80 for around an extra 14fps?

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I'm talking about 6600->6600xt

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Granted both are xfx brands

rugged thunder
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XFX 6600?

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Hmmm

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Dunno

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I have that one

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What would that make the xt

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$370ish?

tall lichen
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$340

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$260 for the regular

rugged thunder
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Ah

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Jeez that cheap for the non xt now?

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Depends on what resolution and games you play tbh

tall lichen
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Other brands sell it for around $10 less but yeah

rugged thunder
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1080p? Or 1440p?

tall lichen
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1080p

tall lichen
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That's what I thought

rugged thunder
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Yea

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6600 is good enough if you keep things at like

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High or very high

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What games?

tall lichen
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Iunno

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Elden Ring?

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FH5 and Spiderman come to mind tho

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I did see that I won't get 120+ FPS on Elden Ring but its whatevs at this point

ivory herald
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Elden Ring is basically locked to 60fps anyways. As if we need 900 fps on a game like that.

rugged thunder
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Yeah

tall lichen
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I saw a video that had more frames

rugged thunder
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And FH5 isn't exactly hard to run

tall lichen
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Like 90fps

rugged thunder
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You should be good tbh

tall lichen
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I don't have the watts for that. Besides isn't power color a bad brand?

rugged thunder
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They're pretty decent from what I heard

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Someone here just said they loved theirs

rugged thunder
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I would know

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I have one

tall lichen
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I meant the 6700xt

ivory herald
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Power color is fine. Probably beats Gigabyte or Zotac at least, but idk for sure.

tall lichen
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Hmmm

rugged thunder
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Plus it was for $430

tall lichen
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I see. Not within my budget

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So a 6600 is just fine?

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Even if the cheapest 6600xt is $40 more?

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Or is the 6600xt a better option?

rugged thunder
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6600 is pretty good

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Especially for the power draw

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I remember even like a 1660 super drawing more power

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Plus I wouldn't call a 6600 a loud card if that matters

tall lichen
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Mhm

ivory herald
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1660 Super is 2 yrs older* though.

rugged thunder
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I know

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Just making the comparison

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As that is also an 8pin card

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That I would assume is near that price range

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Dunno

ivory herald
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Talking wattage though, poor comparison but no big deal. 3060 is 8pin. kekleo

rugged thunder
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1660s is the only other 8pin ive owned

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So its what came to mind

vital oriole
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Powercolor is pretty decent

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They only make radeon gpus so people doesn't know em much

fading glacier
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man, the rumors on moore's law last video are hot

livid idol
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Most of the Nvidia stuff is up in the air and changing by the week or even by the day

fading glacier
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ga102 stock is running dry and the most aggressive move will be at the end of august... or so his sources say

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if that is true, the announcement will be on early september

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hopefully

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at least the high end skus, like 3090 and 90tis

livid idol
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So maybe they'll be launching the same time as AMD. At least the 4090, maybe 4080.

fading glacier
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he is expecting a substantial cut on 80s and 80tis at the end of august

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and the aibs will have to handle the ga104 by themselves

fading glacier
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it makes sense... in a way, nvidia cant miss holiday season

vital oriole
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spooky month

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spooky launches

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perfect month for spicy gpus

fading glacier
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This is a RUMOR only, not a real announcement

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check that out

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spicy

vital oriole
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oversupply go brr

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demand suddenly dropping got em big time

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big companies can't adjust on a dime

livid idol
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AMD doesn't have to go much cheaper because they've been the cheaper option for this entire cycle

vital oriole
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ye

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gpus are at better price than ever

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but they seem to never go out of stock these days

livid idol
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Also AMD can more easily reallocate any extra supply they ordered to go to consoles

vital oriole
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really shows how bad the oversupply is

rose timber
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I love life

vital oriole
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a few months ago gpus kept going outta stock lol

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like as soon as sales happens

fading glacier
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if those 3080s drop below 700usd it will be a hard choice :S

vital oriole
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but it's also tough choice

fading glacier
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yup

vital oriole
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cause 40 series launching soon

livid idol
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4080 might be around that price, it's a hard sell. 4070 is expected to be about the 3090 in performance and should be in that price range too.
AMD equivalents are expected to be very close competition.

vital oriole
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the heat of competition is rising

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if that's true

fading glacier
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the stakes are high

vital oriole
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nvidia does have some selling points

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better rt (i would still say gimmick rn), nvenc and cuda

livid idol
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It's amazing that AMD came from the brink of bankruptcy to being competitive in all markets and the sole provider for consoles in such a relatively short time

vital oriole
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ye

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i can't wait for rdna 3

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ps5 pro when

livid idol
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Steam deck 2 when

fading glacier
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and we dont even know anything about rt/tensor cores on the 40 series

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maybe rt will be a thing on that series

vital oriole
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they're still gonna be better

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why would they drop it anyway lol

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they're fully committed to rt

livid idol
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It's effectively second gen RT and should be better than 30 series at least

vital oriole
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aw

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kinda sad

fading glacier
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maybe we will see third gen rt cores

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who knows

livid idol
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Nvidia is on that... Sort of

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With 40 series I mean

vital oriole
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im probably camping for 4060 mobile? thinkies

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it seems i won't be able to get a laptop within this year

fading glacier
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im rooting for a 4070, but i doubt that will be on this year

livid idol
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Afaik 40 series is just more second gen RT cores

vital oriole
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amd might have a chance to catch up to that

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rt wise

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considering their first gen rt managed to eek out 20 series rt perf

livid idol
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Now we just need games to utilize it properly and efficiently instead of slapping a RT patch over things

vital oriole
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ye lol

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rt is the future but time is what it needs

fading glacier
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hopefully they will end very competitive vs the 40 series, cause the 6000mt sweet spot kinda killed the mood for the am5... at least for me

livid idol
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Estimates are we should see photorealistic games around 2026 with current hardware and engine improvement cadence

fading glacier
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like using 6000/30 series but with future driver updates?

vital oriole
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2026 sounds feasible

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it's like a few gens away

fading glacier
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oh, 2026 with 2026 hardware

livid idol
fading glacier
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yeah 6 years is a lot of time for improvement

livid idol
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By then we'll be taking about 60 series

vital oriole
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rasterization kinda coming to its end era

livid idol
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DX13 when

fading glacier
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in 6 years maybe dx14

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xD

livid idol
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Probably never now that I think about it. Other stuff is so much more versatile.

vital oriole
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ye

livid idol
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Well rumors and leaks suggest the end of this year or early next year for DX13

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Then another 2 years before it's standard like DX12 is now

vital oriole
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imma continue coping with my increasingly outdated 850m

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kek

livid idol
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Vulkan is still infinitely better

runic crypt
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how long until 3070 is low end?

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i hope not for a while

vital oriole
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5 years i guess

heady turtle
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Depends on your definition of low end

hasty sphinx
livid idol
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Considering the 1080 is still midrange (3060 level) and the 980 is showing its age 5-6 years seems fair

heady turtle
odd siren
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What about 4090

heady turtle
vital oriole
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4090 just depends on the card's pl

wicked hound
wicked hound
hybrid maple
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so I found a 3080 on facebook marketplace for $500

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is it worth the risk?

brisk flame
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bring your rig

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test it

hybrid maple
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it's delivery only

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can't pick it up

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but I like the way you think XD

odd siren
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Delivery only sounds sus

fading glacier
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never buy on fb marketplace unless you can see the product in person, working, and along with a friend

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fb is a prime site for kidnapping and theft on some places, just saying

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delivery only sounds like you will end with jars of sand in your mail 😛

wicked hound
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PP G&S if shipping is the only thing available.
Also, by delivery you mean then dropping it off at ur house or shipping?

brisk flame
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hay

sonic mural
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Pp

odd siren
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Fish

heady turtle
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@rugged thunder cmon

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Sus emote

rugged thunder
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I don't see nuffin

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You must be seeing things

hasty sphinx
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@heady turtle is the gaming z trio 3080 12gb good?

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the strix is oos and the ftw3 ultra is 900 on amazon

keen nacelle
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yes, it's one of the best

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especially at 770 right now

hasty sphinx
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to bad it has a mir. I hate those

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takes months

heady turtle
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The mir is only like 30$ iirc

hasty sphinx
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yeah

heady turtle
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Baka you can turn mir off in pcpp filters btw would recommend

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Aorus master 12gb is 800 again EvilPatrick

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White tax be like

hasty sphinx
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is that better than z trio?

heady turtle
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Z trio and x trio are basically the same card

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Unless you mean the Vision

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Then no

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Vision is gaming oc level card

hasty sphinx
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they are the same price. I know you shill the auros, but why?

heady turtle
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Oh yeah aorus is better

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It's a chonky boi

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Like 3.5 slots or 4 slots thick or something

hasty sphinx
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do you have a link? Auros in pcpp yields no results

hasty sphinx
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nvm

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I was spelling wrong lol

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oooo

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for being black

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it looks goood

heady turtle
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Spelt wrong 😛

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Oh it also has screen

hasty sphinx
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and it's better because it cools better so it can perform better yeah?

heady turtle
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I mean minimal difference in performance in practice

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But cooler/quiter always nice

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Also lcd screen hot

hasty sphinx
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yeah LCD screen is bae

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I'm sold

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I'm getting it

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I'll paint it white

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😄

heady turtle
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Stonks

heady turtle
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Cuz once it's painted they not gonna like refunds

hasty sphinx
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It wouldn't get painted for a long min if ever

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since I'm not gonna have that beautiful sack of crap.

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I'll be going custom loop

heady turtle
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Wdym about the sack of crap?

hasty sphinx
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and I mean godly in the most wonderful sense. I mean sack of crap with the most sincere ugly way you can say it.

heady turtle
hasty sphinx
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the sapphire nitro+ pure is the most beautiful card to me.

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but is a pile of steamy poo

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sheesh.

heady turtle
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Ah right

hasty sphinx
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It looks like they don't ship today?

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I was going to pay for the rushed proccessing, but it didn't change my delivery date

fading glacier
hasty sphinx
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what does 3-7 days newegg service mean?

fading glacier
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dunno why egg let me

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maybe because the restock is the 15th

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im just guessing xD

hasty sphinx
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oo you can even do the 3day?

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I did overnight for $10

fading glacier
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looks like a backorder indeed

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cant pay wth ppal, only cc

hasty sphinx
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ah

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Welp, time to pack up both the 3080 12gb and the 6950xt

fading glacier
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real weird

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sad to hear it

hasty sphinx
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it's aight

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I'll just have to use my 1650s until the Aorus comes in on tuesday

runic crypt
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what cards are considered entry level nowadays?

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is the 1050 ti still entry?

keen nacelle
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but if you're playing non demanding games, 1050 ti is fine

runic crypt
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low or entry?

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can 1050 ti play switch well

keen nacelle
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switch?

runic crypt
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yuzu yea

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not a real switch

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also are budget and entry-level the same tier in pc builds?

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or is budget below entry

keen nacelle
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considering the switchs gpu is comparable to a potato, it'll be fine

keen nacelle
runic crypt
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wait the switch is a toaster isnt it

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no budget as in the low end

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not my own budget

keen nacelle
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what is the budget for the build

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and what country

runic crypt
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i meant it as a term for office tier

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not my amount of money

keen nacelle
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im so confused

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if it's an office pc, why does it need a dgpu

runic crypt
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its not

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im saying weak enough to run a certain point

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switch being my high end

keen nacelle
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this conversation is physically hurting me. what do you need this pc to do

runic crypt
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sorry

keen nacelle
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how much do you want to spend

runic crypt
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it’s meant to be an emulation box

keen nacelle
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or whoevers paying for it

runic crypt
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this thing already runs gc/wii

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and its in theory

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not practice

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im planning it for much later

keen nacelle
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i'd assume 1050 ti would be more than enough

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same with 5600g igpu

runic crypt
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as an “expand dong” for the future

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this fightstick has an intel nuc that runs a core i3-5010u

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and runs gc/wii already

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theyre tiny

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sorry for the confusion

hasty sphinx
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sheesh. 12600k iGPU drivers are 1.1gb

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I did not realize I would be having to download such a huge package for them

fading glacier
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12700f or bust

hasty sphinx
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@heady turtle my gpu already shipped out 😛

keen nacelle
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+w1

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With no dgpu

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Also h212

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There

hasty sphinx
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Ugh. There is such a huge difference between 160 fps and 60 😦

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I wish gpu would be here like right now

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I feel like I'm lagging with 60 fps. I will never be able to get used to this

stone siren
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I don't think thermal paste is supposed to do that

hasty sphinx
stone siren
hasty sphinx
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Evaporating? it's not a liquid.

stone siren
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Even if i put the right amount on there, it'll still do that

ivory herald
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This is an example that could be called "too much", otherwise there wouldn't be a ton on the sides.

hasty sphinx
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are you saying that even when you put the right amount, it squeezes out the sides and looks like a mess?

forest oasis
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Also while technically thermal paste can "dry", this isn't a case of that lmao

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Old thermal paste be crusty

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But still a paste

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Well, a less functional one

bright bolt
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Hello I was looking at this card. I know a 3070 will be able to handle things like VR, and high performance games/audio production I am looking for, however I know not all GPU Brands are made equally, some better then others. Does anyone know if there are any defects with this brand of 3070 card?

tired pilot
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today i got my new rx 6600 and when i play some games in suddenly close

bright bolt
bright bolt
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Which games are closing?

tired pilot
tired pilot
bright bolt
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God I love that name

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But no other games?

tired pilot
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but other no

bright bolt
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Did you previously have the 5000 series of AMD cards?

tired pilot
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no

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i had intel uhd 750

bright bolt
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Back when the 5700XT came out the drivers were garbage, and i blue screened a lot. I could not play some games such as space engineers until better drivers released.

tired pilot
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thats sad

bright bolt
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This is just my experience, but I would bet that the drivers are just bad right now.

tired pilot
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so how can i check if my gpu is ok ?

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it just arrived yesterday and im really scared

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lul

bright bolt
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Can you play other high-end, or demanding programs without crashing?

tired pilot
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i think so

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is eldin ring demanding ?

bright bolt
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I would say so.

tired pilot
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i have 50$ left

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i can buy a game so we can try

bright bolt
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Ehhh can you avoid paying for a game?

tired pilot
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sure

bright bolt
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Play a few different games if you can. If others crash your GPU may have a potential defect, but my money is on bad drivers.

tired pilot
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i will try that

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thanks mate

bright bolt
# tired pilot i will try that

Oh right one more thing my drivers are crashing in Apex Legends. Had a crash report the other day, and today my game stutters sometimes like it wants to crash. I have the 5700XT.

tired pilot
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why amd drivers are so bad

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this is not the first time i hear someone saying the same

bright bolt
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Because AMD doesn't have as refined drivers as Nvidia.

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They can produce a card, but the software engineers put code with hopes and dreams entangled in the spaghetti nightmare that is their code.

tired pilot
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mybe i should spend that 100$ diff for the rtx 3060

bright bolt
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I mean the Adrenaline Software is pretty nice compared to Nvidia... when it loads... and not under heavy load.... oh no...

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You selling? One of my streamers is in the market fir a 3000 series card.

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Are they heavily used?

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We can talk details when you are ready to sell

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Right right

rugged thunder
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GPU wise, is there anything I need to change in the bios?

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Went from a 6600 to a 6700xt

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Ah alright

rugged thunder
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Trying out the 6700xt

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Extremely happy so far

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Runs cooler then the 6600

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Runs quieter

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Runs GTAV fast enough to make it stutter when the 6600 struggled to hit 100fps

stone siren
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Bruh what

My 3060Ti struggles on that game. Not sure if it's my CPU or the GPU itself

rugged thunder
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Very high

pine knot
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ah ok

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the 6600 any good?

rugged thunder
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I mean it was impressive for a 1080p card to do decently at 1440p

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Yeah

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It's definitely geared for 1080p

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But CAN do 1440p semi well

pine knot
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ok i wanna play 1080

rugged thunder
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Just don't expect cyberpunk at high at 1440p

pine knot
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yeah no i’m fine with 1080

rugged thunder
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A 6600 rn is what

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$300 brand new

pine knot
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yeah fairly inexpensive

rugged thunder
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It's better then Nvidia at that price range at least

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What is it

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A 3050?

vital oriole
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it's also actually below 300 kek

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around 250 is easily doable

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yep

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6600 faster

rugged thunder
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Damn

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6600 stays winning

normal hawk
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Rommy what GPU's you got now

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Can I have the 6800xt as a gift

rugged thunder
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On r/hardwareswap I could probably get a child for $90 and a mcdouble

normal hawk
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😅

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So

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Oh

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Oof

stiff finch
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Would you guys play games with Ray Tracing 4K max settings in demanding games like Cyberpunk or Dying Light 2? (With cards like a 3080-3090 ti)

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This one dude I was talking to was trying to convince me Nvidia can do Ray Tracing pretty well in 4K with ultra or max settings

stiff finch
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Lmao exactly. It was literally one of my worst conversation of my life, even outside of GPUs topic.

vital oriole
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haha

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that's a great joke

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rt at 4k, hell no

heady turtle
stiff finch
#

Well, with CP2077, RT performance with dlss ultra is like mid 40s to low 50s with a 3090.

keen nacelle
#

4k gaming is a meme

vital oriole
#

^

stiff finch
#

Yeah, which is why I got 1440p instead

vital oriole
#

1440p is the highest that makes sense rn

keen nacelle
#

i just bought an m27q-x

#

was on an amazing sale

sullen panther
#

I don't play fps games and fast paced games so meh

#

I dont use ray tracing most of the time

heady turtle
#

Fps games are usually the ones actually most likely to be playable at 4k due to a cpu bottleneck

sullen panther
#

I feel like most fps players would rather to play 1080/1440p 120hz or more than use a 4k monitor

#

But yeah it would be most likely able to run on 4k like you said

rugged thunder
#

Or at 1440p

#

1440p is probably the ideal resolution for alot of builds

#

Unless you play esports

normal hawk
#

4k is great for open world rpgs, survival games, etc

heady turtle
livid idol
oblique path
#

i cant afford 3090 ti 😭

#

ill just buy a gt 710 😈

livid idol
#

If you need something to display a picture while you wait for next gen that's not a bad option

rugged thunder
#

What about an igpu

#

In a cpu

#

Aren't those getting meh

#

Or are the 710s still better

livid idol
oblique path
livid idol
#

For graphics absolutely

oblique path
#

yes

rugged thunder
oblique path
livid idol
#

30 fps steady is considered "playable"

#

60 is possible in a lot of games with the 5700g if you do 1080p low

oblique path
normal hawk
#

I have a 4k, an UW(1440p) and a 1080p monitor.

I don't get why having multiple monitors is a big issue apparently? I can play games at the resolution I want.

oblique path
#

yes my gpu is so fast it makes me fast irl

rugged thunder
#

Mainly space

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Even small monitors take alot of room

livid idol
#

Let's not have any potential violence involved please

oblique path
normal hawk
oblique path
#

when school starts ima use their crappy stem kits and program doom

livid idol
normal hawk
#

They hypothetically played doom on crabs

oblique path
normal hawk
#

Theoretically

livid idol
normal hawk
oblique path
#

ima play doom in a book 😈

normal hawk
#

16 billion crabs. It'll happen one day

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Play doom on one of those etch-a-sketches

oblique path
normal hawk
oblique path
#

true

hasty pulsar
#

im upgrading my gpu from a 2060 to a 1030

fading glacier
#

video

livid idol
#

At 1080p? Just about anything
1440p is a little trickier

lone pond
#

gotta turn down the Texture load

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looks great tho

pine knot
#

what can a 1660 super run? (1080p)

heady turtle
#

depends what your standards are for run and what detail settings

pine knot
#

oh lord asking for a friend who’s building a pc

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hold on

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what i’ve gathered is he just wants to be able to run games smoothly

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he had a 1050ti with his i3 12100 and kept having fps drop

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@heady turtle

heady turtle
#

what games

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make sure they have xmp on

pine knot
#

he got rid of the 1050ti but when i watched him play and his fps kept dropping he was playing fortnite so now he wants a 1660 super(fits his budget) but wants to know how much better it will be, he plays (warzone,fortnite, and minecraft)

cosmic bluff
#

What is his budget for the GPU if you don't mind us asking could help choose a possibly better GPU if its in their budget

pine knot
#

200 but i’m going to help him out a little

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(CAD)

cosmic bluff
#

Trying to find an alternative but am not seeing one in that budget and a 1660 on 1080 can run most modern games on medium to high settings around 60-120fps depends on title

pine knot
#

so that should be good for him

cosmic bluff
#

Most definitely

pine knot
#

i’m working on getting myself a 6600 or rtx 2060

cosmic bluff
#

6600

pine knot
#

but ima help him out a little

pine knot
cosmic bluff
#

Or if you prefer to have dlss which helps in a lot of games would be the 2060 or a 2070 which I've seen some in a decent price on eBay

cosmic bluff
#

if you wish to upscale quality while gaining a little performance Deep learning super sampling is what dlss is

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renders games lower quality then upscales them through ai to give that boost basically

pine knot
#

well basically i just want a gpu that will run my games fine on 1080p lol

cosmic bluff
#

i wanna say fsr is the amd equivalent but im not too clear on amd and ive seen ghosting issues like crazy on fsr

#

but a 6600 would do in your case

pine knot
#

i play like cold war forza etc etc

subtle radish
#

Hi all, looking for a GPU suggestion.

We recently bought this prebuilt PC from BestBuy - it was a HP Omen 3700X RTX2060 which we got a decent price on during black Friday.
The PC has been great for just over 1 year when the GPU would turn all screens black when loading a game that requires a decent amount of GPU. We tried lots of troubleshooting from online resources to no avail, and then decided to take it into a PC repair shop for diagnosis. He did some stress tests ( $150 charge ) and come to the conclusion the GPU was causing the issues. It's been a month or so now and the same issues occur. We are now looking to purchase a new graphics card that will be compatible with this prebuild spec, and somewhat the same (or slightly better) than the RTX2060 originally built. Any help would be tremendously appreciated. Full specs of the PC purchased are below:
HP OMEN - 30L Gaming Desktop - AMD Ryzen 7-Series - 3700X - 16GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 - 1TB HDD + 256GB SSD - Black (https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-omen-30l-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-7-series-3700x-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2060-1tb-hdd-256gb-ssd-black/6402514.p)
Price range of GPU desired - $400-$700

cerulean rover
#

damn, charging 150$ for stress tests that are probably free lol

cerulean rover
# subtle radish Hi all, looking for a GPU suggestion. We recently bought this prebuilt PC from...

Might as well get a better PSU too while you're at it, but you can do 3070 and a nice psu
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09CC36XXC
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09CRLXL76

subtle radish
cerulean rover
#

Don't need GPU holder riser support bracket or anything, the prebuilt listing doesn't list clearance but a dual fan model should still fit easily

subtle radish
cerulean rover
#

Yes, same warranty process as usual

#

You'd contact Asus for warranty anyways, not Amazon

tired pilot
#

my new rx 6600 will shut the game after 15-20 minutes of playing
i have tested it with furmark for 20 min and it was ok

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i have the newest driver]

#

anyone know how to fix it ?

orchid loom
#

What's GPU core and vram speeds what makes gpu faster or do they both make it fast

vital oriole
#

both

orchid loom
modest reef
keen nacelle
#

and have you ddud

tired pilot
#

and temps below 76

keen nacelle
#

what games?

tired pilot
tired pilot
keen nacelle
#

and what cpu do you have?

tired pilot
#

i5 11500

modest reef
#

is everything running stock?

tired pilot
#

yes

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but xmp

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is enabled

modest reef
#

It could be memory

keen nacelle
#

does it happen to be corsair ram and or two different kits

#

and do games just close or are you blue screening

tired pilot
keen nacelle
#

so unlikely mixed dies

tired pilot
keen nacelle
#

what psu?

tired pilot
#

its

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cooler master mwe white 650w

keen nacelle
#

this one?

tired pilot
#

this one

keen nacelle
#

could possibly be psu

tired pilot
#

i used the same build for 1.6 years

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on the intel uhd

keen nacelle
#

yeah, uhd uses a lot less power

#

also try rolling back drivers

tired pilot
#

how do i rolling back drivers ?

keen nacelle
#

if that doesn't work, I'd probably suggest a new psu

tired pilot
#

mybe its because the gpu ?

#

but it run ok in furmark

tired pilot
#

there is only 2

keen nacelle
#

5/10

#

months old

#

that works

tired pilot
#

man this is sad

#

i saved up for a year

#

@keen nacelle what should i do ?

keen nacelle
#

wdym

tired pilot
#

is it fix able ?

#

or should i change the psu

#

or the gpu

keen nacelle
#

can wait for someone elses opinion, but likely replace psu

#

does anyone you know locally have a pc of their own?

modest reef
#

Is it any game, or a specific game?

keen nacelle
#

any game they said

#

seems like psu to me

modest reef
#

Search 'event viewer' in the start menu.

On the left side, you should see some filters.

Expand windows logs, click on each of the categories, most likely application or system and see if you see any messages with error in the right side. It'll have a red circle with an exclamation point.

#

Yeah, if you don't see errors, it could be the PSU

wicked hound
#

PSU would cause Kernal Power 41 error

#

I'd also try repairing Windows, or reinstalling it.
sfc /scannow && dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth

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In CMD admin

tired pilot
#

sorry fuys i slept yesterday

#

@wicked hound @modest reef @keen nacelle

#

thanks for your help

#

this is the event manger

modest reef
#

So in the third section, can you scroll down through the list and see if you can find what time the game crashed?

magic wing
#

whocrashed

velvet grail
#

Does anyone happen to have a GTX 1080 windforce 3x / OC?
I need some precise measurements for the card to make an adequate case

#

If yes here are the measurements + thickness

wheat crag
#

Just look it up

velvet grail
#

There are not those precise measurements

wheat crag
#

Pretty sure someone has something on measurements

velvet grail
#

I have searched...

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Didn't found

wheat crag
#

Did u try Reddit

velvet grail
#

Didn't found any

wheat crag
#

A yt review might have measurements

#

But I doubt anyone here has the card or measure it

velvet grail
#

Could you help me finding one?

wheat crag
#

I can try

velvet grail
#

I'll ask if anyone has this card

wheat crag
#

11 x 4.5 x 1.6 inches

#

@velvet grail

velvet grail
#

Precise

#

I guess the PCIe slot is 12cm

#

That's always the same length right?

livid idol
#

Yes the slot is standardized

wheat crag
#

I’m pretty sure that’s standard

velvet grail
#

Is it 5mm? 1cm? More, less?

#

That one is important

#

I guess there are no precise measurements online, I'll just pretend it is 1cm

#

I still don't get why they keep sliding the PCIe slot part
It's like sustaining ½ of the GPU

#

It's like 4 m lower from the top of the card

#

Is it because of the thiccness

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Thicc cards

vital oriole
#

it's the shroud

velvet grail
#

THICCCC

fading glacier
#

if you want the card to make measurments to make the case then why dont you buy the card first and take measurments yourself with the card at hand... i mean, you sound like you want to build your case around this card? just saying

blissful gale
#

o

stone siren
#

I did something correctly for once

wicked hound
lone pond
#

hi im have cpu i5 4gen and 8 ram and gtx1650 an im have lag for the game

lone pond
#

@rustic pulsar
I'm confused

rustic pulsar
#

and @lone pond what do u need help with

rustic pulsar
#

and that but thats it

#

i only obsess over ddlc

rustic pulsar
#

loook i only have 30 hrs in the game

rugged thunder
#

Get good

rustic pulsar
#

sure buddy

#

over a year lmao

rugged thunder
#

Get skill

#

I like natsuki more then you

rustic pulsar
#

how do i word this...

#

nevermind

rugged thunder
rustic pulsar
#

if u know u know

ivory herald
#

Take it to General.

rugged thunder
#

I agree

wicked hound
#

Yeston to the rescue

drifting sequoia
#

Good evening everyone, I wanted a recommendation and which one is best for me to buy a graphics card, it would be the first one I buy and I want to start well, I have 3 options for now, among those are the 6600 xt, 6700 and the 3060, which one suits me best? I have a ryzen 5 3400 g, 16 ram 3200mhz and I want it more than anything to dedicate games and software for the university where I study.

odd siren
#

3400G is a bit of a push but you could likely run a 6700 with it

#

I think you'd be best sticking with a 6600 XT and staying on 1080p imo

hasty sphinx
#

But.. 1440 man

odd siren
#

But depending on the software you're using at uni? A 3060 might be a better idea (e.g CAD or video production)

hasty sphinx
#

Hm.

#

I wonder what his budget is.

odd siren
#

Maybe even a used 2070

hasty sphinx
#

Because maybe he could get a little cpu upgrade on top of a good gpu so there is no chance of bottleneck?

odd siren
#

Depends how much they're willing to spend

#

If it's a big cut of the gpu budget it's likely not worth it

hasty sphinx
#

Yeah true.

odd siren
#

Otherwise sure, 5600 sounds good

hasty sphinx
#

Just seems like it'd be worth it for him to upgrade his cpu along with his gpu for what he wants to use it for.

odd siren
#

Also worth knowing what psu you have @drifting sequoia ?

drifting sequoia
odd siren
drifting sequoia
#

XPG Probe 600W 80 Plus Bonze

#

sorry its 600w

odd siren
drifting sequoia
#

The minimum is 350 and the maximum would be 450

#

only on the card

odd siren
#

@drifting sequoia

#

I highly suggest replacing the psu, it's marked in the avoid tier (i.e no guarantee if it'll last especially if you push it to the limit with a new GPU)

heady turtle
odd siren
#

Oof

#

Well G5 is fine just loud

drifting sequoia
heady turtle
#

80+ doesn't actually have anything to do with psu quality, just how efficient it is at converting AC to DC power

drifting sequoia
#

So what should I look for first to know that the source will be durable and safe?

#

I say it is not that with this source I have grabbed it like crazy but it came already included with the XPG cabinet

odd siren
# drifting sequoia So what should I look for first to know that the source will be durable and safe...

We use the cultists network for psu recommendations. They collate a huge list of reviews, first-hand experience and knowledge under one umbrella. It's a citable source because of how thorough it is compared to anything else on the internet
https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

PSU Tier List will help you to choose the best PSU out of hundreds of models on the market. From budget to the highest end Power Supplies.

drifting sequoia
#

ty man

#

how am I going to buy a powerful graphics card and it is my first I want to know more about it and what wonders I can do since it will be my co-worker

drifting sequoia
magic wing
#

especially the lists shared

#

where are you located?

drifting sequoia
#

Mx

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Mexico

past steeple
#

Anyone know if l have to buy a new cpu when l hook up my new 3050 graphics card that l just got recently? The current cpu l have is a 5600g since l couldn’t get a gpu for a long time

tired pilot
#

if any one buying the rx 6600 asrock challenger
I bought the card three days ago and it works but it shuts down the games after 20 minutes without any reason with blue screen problems. Never buy this card.
plz dont buy it

keen nacelle
#

That sounds like either a ram or windows issue

#

And did you ddu?

tired pilot
#

i did do ddu 4 times

#

and 2 fully windows format

#

and i used the ram before the gpu for intel uhd and it was good

keen nacelle
#

What ram is it

tired pilot
#

pny

keen nacelle
#

What speed

tired pilot
#

8x2

#

3200

keen nacelle
#

And have you run an sfc/scannow?

tired pilot
#

what is that

keen nacelle
#

Open command prompt as admin

#

It scans system files for corrupted files

tired pilot
#

ok ?

#

what should i type ?

keen nacelle
#

Is that windows 11?

tired pilot
#

no

#

10

keen nacelle
#

Sfc/scannow

#

Cmd prompt looks different from mine on w10, weird

tired pilot
#

idk

#

@keen nacelle

#

look

#

it runs good in furmark for 20 minutes

#

and i can game

#

but when i change reslution game crash

#

i used a trash tv

#

mybe thats why

keen nacelle
#

Wait

#

Aren't you thr dude with the bad psu

tired pilot
keen nacelle
#

And did he tell you what the issue is?

tired pilot
keen nacelle
#

Exactly

tired pilot
#

but he think its driver

#

issue

past steeple
hasty sphinx
# tired pilot but he think its driver

But it isn't. We've established that with DDU. If you have a bad PSU it's sounding like it's not supplying enough power to your gpu causing it to bluescreen.

hasty sphinx
tired pilot
#

in case its not enough

#

anyway its cooler master

#

mwe white

#

@hasty sphinx

keen nacelle
#

Definitely bad enough to cause these issues

keen nacelle
#

The psu is ass

#

And it is likely causing the issue

tired pilot
#

i can refund the gpu and save more so i can buy the gpu again and a new psu 4_

hasty sphinx
# tired pilot mwe white

Thats a really crappy psu and I am willing to bet thats the cause of your issue. Instead of getting new gpu. Spend the little amount for a better psu and I'm sure your problems will be fixed.

hasty sphinx
tired pilot
#

what should i buy ?

keen nacelle
#

G5 650 if you want it to be modular, otherwise asus tuf 550 is a bit cheaper

tired pilot
#

can you chose from here

tired pilot
#

and dont worry it kuwaiti computer store that offer free installing so thats why i want to buy it from there

hasty sphinx
#

I.. would rather install my own parts.

tired pilot
#

in price

tired pilot
hasty sphinx
tired pilot
keen nacelle
#

How much of your currency=100 usd

#

If you know

#

If not I can Google it

#

About 31

tired pilot
#

30 is 100 us dollar

#

i dont think they have good things :(

tired pilot
#

isnt this the same ?

keen nacelle
#

No

#

The bronze v2 is a different model

#

It's a lot better quality

tired pilot
#

what should i do with the other one ?

keen nacelle
#

I mean, can sell it but not sure you'll get much for it

#

Seeing as it's only good for igpu builds

tired pilot
#

that make sense ...

#

@keen nacelle can i add you ?

#

u helped me a lot

keen nacelle
#

I have about 150 friends that I don't talk to

#

I try not to add people I don't actually know anymore

tired pilot
#

np

hasty sphinx
# tired pilot what should i do with the other one ?

Keep it just in case something were to ever happen to the new one you get. Would be a backup for your PC, however if you were to ever use it as such, I'd recommend not hooking up your GPU until you get a new PSU.

drifting sequoia
#

some tips when installing my graphics card and what can I do to make it last a long time and take advantage of it?

keen nacelle
#

Do not put liquid on it

drifting sequoia
#

ok

sinful root
#

6700 XT with 12400F is good pairing?

heady turtle
#

Yes

random zinc
velvet grail
#

I have a small question to fill a knowledge gap... What gives more bandwidth (usually double than previous gen) to pcie interfaces? Like 4.0 16x has double the bandwidth as 3.0 16x
But is there like a faster clock on the PCIe bus?

#

Or is it something completely different?

livid idol
#

The PCI bus speed is usually tied to the base clock iirc

#

So if you overclock bclk the bus speed goes up too

velvet grail
#

The typical 100MHz

#

?

livid idol
#

Yes

velvet grail
#

But how is 4.0 on all PCIe lanes double bandwidth compared to 3.0

livid idol
#

Certain high end Intel boards with the external clock generator can separate the PCI from bclk too

velvet grail
#

So it's like a multiplier?

#

Like the CPU one

livid idol
#

Sort of, it's what the multiplier is multiplied by

velvet grail
#

Because I've read on some website that 6.0 uses 52GHz freq

#

😳

livid idol
#

I'm not an engineer so I couldn't tell you, but I do know some places don't use the right terms. They'll say 3200 MHz when it's actually 3200 MT/s for example.

velvet grail
#

Ive found this

velvet grail
#

52ghz sounds pretty unbelievable

livid idol
#

So what I said still stands, bclk is what the multiplier is multiplied by

#

And the PCI bus is usually the thing that keeps you from going above 105 bclk

velvet grail
#

Yes, I've read also it can't go past 125 usually

#

Mhz

#

It has to be between 100 and 125 but different websites say different things

livid idol
#

125 is under LN2, without mods you're usually doing 103-106

#

On boards with the external clock gen I've seen bclk 160

#

Straight up 60% overclock on a 12400

velvet grail
#

I kinda got how PCIe works
Each lane is one bit wide, 16lanes = 16bits = 2bytes. Considering each version has a fixed data transfer rate (apparently given by the clock generated through BCLK multiplier), example: 4.0 16x is 16GT/s, since it's two bytes you want to multiply that by 2 and you get about 32GB/s (31.5)
All this for one direction (either input or output)

dense cliff
#

If I install a gpu update on an eGPU do I need to disable the laptops integrated graphics first?

livid idol
#

Do you mean driver or firmware?

dense cliff
#

Graphics Driver

#

It keeps defaulting to iGPU and saying the connected gpu has a problem and rolls back to windows basic display driver.

livid idol
#

Sounds like it could be DDU time

#

!ddu

dreamy dragonBOT
livid idol
#

Remove both sets of GPU drivers and don't let it connect to the internet after you reboot. Then install the eGPU driver first.

dense cliff
#

Gotcha will try

dense cliff
#

Well it shows up correctly in device manager now :D but the laptop interface im using is so old that it doesn't know how much gpu memory is on the card or what to call it

livid idol
quasi basin
#

Can you notice a difference between 120fps and 165 fps?

#

This is related to a convo about video card performance that we had in the cooling section

#

I believe the human eye is ultimately the limiter of this

#

so what is the point of a video card that plays games at 240fps?

jaunty mango
#

I’m pretty sure it’s just game responsiveness

#

Like the game is updating faster

#

Even though your eye only “refreshes” slower than that if you click there’s less latency

#

Or atleast it reduces one of the factors of click to action latency

full bough
#

Best card for $500-$600?

#

Just gaming

#

Maybe workstation actually

#

But gaming mostly

odd siren
#

Prolly 3070

full bough
#

Thanks

sinful root
heady turtle
random zinc
heady turtle
livid idol
#

We often recommend the 12600k with a B660 here if you're not overclocking because you get the extra cores

hasty sphinx
#

How do I override a gpu's 0rpm mode?

heady turtle
hasty sphinx
heady turtle
#

Hmm

#

How are you doing it exactly?

hasty sphinx
#

anything below 45% it shuts fans off and it's reading 1300rpm at 70% on a 3000rpm fan

heady turtle
#

Have you ddu'd and unonstalled afterburner?

hasty sphinx
#

yes

heady turtle
#

That's weird