graphics-cards

[odd siren]

Sticking 180W through the 6600 and it's still no where near throttling

Not gonna leave it like that tho

You know what looking at the vrm it can handle that, maybe I will

[heady turtle]

More

[odd siren]

Hehehe huehuehuehuehueh

[heady turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/aw-dude-weak-kyle-broflovski-south-park-casa-bonita-s7e11-gif-22110715

[odd siren]

#1 only 400 points away

I haven't even repasted yet

[keen nacelle]

On a 6600?

[odd siren]

Ye

[heady turtle]

Why repaste if getting good temps

[keen nacelle]

Isn't that around stock 2070s perf?

[odd siren]

Never good enough

[heady turtle]

Ree

Amd gpu oc way more fun i wish nv wasn't so locked with their bios's

Especially that am stuck with 220w on my 3060 ti :/

[keen nacelle]

Hah, nerd, I hit 227w on my single pin 3060 ti

[odd siren]

6 phase, 55A vrm on this card

310W total power but it'll never get that

[heady turtle]

I can't get any more cus no vbios flash cuz FE 12 pin connector

[odd siren]

I reckon prolly 210W is my limit

[heady turtle]

Mmmm

I feel you could do 230w depending on temp

[keen nacelle]

Hah nerd

[odd siren]

Temps fine, fans at

50%

Still sitting behind glass too

Frequency curve was solid ima try bumping that first see if I go a little higher

Crashed noooooo

Rip

Ok it wants to do 2739 but it doesn't like 2739

[heady turtle]

Hmmm

[odd siren]

Trying 2700

Will prolly bump power again after this

It likes this more

Noooooo

2690

Nice

Ok trying 210W

If it's unstable now ima give it fresh air

Still not anywhere near throttling

My hotspot finally reached 96C

[heady turtle]

Hehe nice

[heady turtle]

Finally kek 3 fan 6600 moment

[odd siren]

216W

I've definitely found the silicon limit I'm slowly dialing it in now

[heady turtle]

Now time to move to memory

[odd siren]

Getting there

[heady turtle]

Sheesh

[odd siren]

60% fans

Hotspot 100!

[heady turtle]

Oh lmao do a curve

So you're not even at the max

[odd siren]

Not for a benchmark lol

[heady turtle]

Hmm?

[odd siren]

I have a curve but not using it for benching

Just leaving it at a flat 60 rn

[heady turtle]

Why tho

[odd siren]

Cos why do I need more

[heady turtle]

Cuz cooler = higher clocks

[odd siren]

Yes but hotspot

Core is only like 60 or 70

[heady turtle]

You can get cooler tho

The more cool you are the more clocks period

[odd siren]

Ya but I'm not throttling yet lol

[odd siren]

This was at the limit I set 2690

[heady turtle]

Yes but you can get higher clocks stable even if you're not throttling

[odd siren]

Test throughout was like 2640+ the whole time

True

But it doesn't seem to want to silicon-wise

Over 2700 I crash

[heady turtle]

Still no harm

It might boost a tiny bit better

[odd siren]

Ok I'll put the fans up a bit

@mighty island how to flash better vram clocks

I just tried and it's locking 1750 in when I wanted to try 1950

Do I leave adrenalin closed?

[heady turtle]

Vbios modding afaik

[odd siren]

Ye I am

But any time I try increase I get AMD witchcraft

Gonna try again but I leave adrenalin alone

[mighty island]

uhh i havent done it on rx 6000

i just used red bios editor

[odd siren]

Mpt?

[mighty island]

i used both mpt and rbe

[odd siren]

Oh i c

Ok bumped fans and trying 230W. Not gonna go higher after this

Fans at 3200 rpm

[finite fulcrum]

@odd siren What's up,sorry,could you help, is this a serious potential issues like should i change my potential motherhood or is it normal ? i just don't really understand in it
"The MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard supports the Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor with BIOS version 7D43v11. If the motherboard is using an older BIOS version, upgrading the BIOS will be necessary to support the CPU."

[odd siren]

Ignore that warning

It's a false positive

[finite fulcrum]

ohh okay thanks

[odd siren]

Np

So this 6600 physically won't boost higher

I go higher and artifacting

Temps never went past 81C

It hard crashed too so yeah I think I'm on the limit now

230W and all

[heady turtle]

@magic wing might be able to help or the xoc techies like forks/fitz might too

[odd siren]

Yea ima look at vram soon

I think I'm locked by the driver tho

It's otherwise as high as it'll go in adrenalin rn lol

[odd siren]

82nd place

Hotspot peaked at 95 so the fan bump removed any chance of throttle

69th!

I wanna stop now

[heady turtle]

Beautiful

[odd siren]

41st place

I took the glass off

(Pants off)

Oh 240W btw

[heady turtle]

Blow on it for extra airflow

Also try lock 100% fan gpu + case fans + off with front panel if possible

[odd siren]

I haven't oc'd the cpu yet

Or ram

Not in this system anyway

If I put it in my 12900KF system I'd be first place rn

[heady turtle]

Ohh you're talking overall score

[odd siren]

Oh no 41st for graphics

[heady turtle]

Oh okay good

[odd siren]

But overall first had a worse 6600 sample

[lone pond]

OK soo 3080 12gb arrived

[odd siren]

Nice

Which one?

[lone pond]

Evga ftw 3 ultra

[odd siren]

Good one

Oh the 420 one?

Damn so it was real

[lone pond]

Seems like I am straight up cpu bottlenecked with raytracing on

[wheat crag]

That’s so cheap lol

[keen nacelle]

You on 1080p?

[lone pond]

1440p with quality dlss

[wheat crag]

Makes sense your bottle necked lol bc of the dlss

[keen nacelle]

What are you using to view your usage?

[lone pond]

Nvidia shadowplay

[keen nacelle]

I would use hwmonitor

[lone pond]

It does not have in game overlay

[keen nacelle]

Shadowplay is also not the most reliable

Wait is that even shadowplay?

Isn't it just nvidia in game overlay

[ivory herald]

Hwinfo can do* on screen info

[lone pond]

Yeah something like that

Which comes after pressing alt+r

[keen nacelle]

Yeah that isn't really reliable

The other day it was showing 90% gpu usage at 165fps on a 3060 ti on valorant

[magic wing]

Sleeeeeeeppppppyyy

I hwlp when i awake

[gleaming tundra]

Why this so cheap? Where can find it?

[modest reef]

https://www.evga.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?type=8

It's gone now, I think

[solemn panther]

https://c.tenor.com/iiatT58-LhoAAAAM/oh-my-god.gif

[odd siren]

ADRENALIN WHAT ARE YOU DOING

[magic wing]

What version?

[odd siren]

Latest it was glitching after driver crash lol

[minor hill]

jajaj, i dont think upgrade since est. 2020

https://tenor.com/view/teteo-dembow-dominican-altagama-rochyrd-gif-24754285

[odd siren]

Oh shoot I forgot to ddu after I finished

Nice embed lol

[minor hill]

xd i tried

[magic wing]

Dont ddu amd drivers

Its not great

Can cause a lotta issues

The in built factory reset option is a LOT better

[odd siren]

Oh ok

Well glad I forgot then lol

[magic wing]

Yeah just tick factory reset and dont tick keep user settings when installing a new/the same driver

[odd siren]

Got it

[odd siren]

Ok I factory reset it. Hwinfo freaked out but a restart and it's all better

I don't think I can push the card any harder tho, it goes anywhere over 2700 and it crashes without any power scaling

I won't repaste I don't think but I may stick it in my 12th gen system at some point for the memes lol

[magic wing]

what gpu

[sonic mural]

6600 eagle iirc

[hasty sphinx]

You can use hwinfo with rtss and make an overlay through hwinfo itself.

[azure ledge]

hewo

[lone pond]

ok soo paired the 3080 with new cpu now instead of 11600k

[solemn panther]

Wow that's pretty high

Did you oc anything?

[elfin harness]

bro my gpu is trash

i'm running a NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M on a pc that's old as heck

[lone pond]

Ofc I did

[wheat crag]

How many ghz is that gpu running

[lone pond]

2200mhz

[wheat crag]

Nice

[solemn panther]

Crazy

[azure ledge]

the 4070 is apparently a 3080?

well we know that shouldnt be so

[vital oriole]

in perf

it probably is

x70 series have always been like that

faster or as fast as x80 of last gen

[azure ledge]

gonna drop

a pearl of knowledge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6fBh_PY-Zg

title image answer is

no it does not

[vital oriole]

it's just rumors rn

i wouldn't fully believe it lol

not that im not hoping for it to be very good tho

cause if it does, it's good

[keen nacelle]

The trend is xx80 ti=xx70 of next gen, or similar anyways

980 ti, 1070

[vital oriole]

^

[keen nacelle]

1080 ti, 2070 super

2080 ti, 3070

[vital oriole]

saying it's "3090" perf is probably not too far

as 3080ti isn't much slower

in games that is

[keen nacelle]

When talking about gaming, ye

[azure ledge]

n

i dont wanna believe it

im gonna b upset

the price is

gonna be overpriced for the specs

[vital oriole]

the price doesn't even have any details

It's probably not over 600 at worst imo

[azure ledge]

meh

i suppose

[vital oriole]

and it performing like 3080ti doesn't really make it bad value

considering how much 3080ti costs

800+

[tired pilot]

what should i pick ?

[hasty sphinx]

I pick... that you change your server name to something readable.

[tired pilot]

sure

done

[vital oriole]

bruh

[hasty sphinx]

[tired pilot]

huh

[livid idol]

Lol

[tired pilot]

anyway

if some one helped me here will be great

[tired pilot]

.

[livid idol]

Either would be fine, they'll perform nearly identical

[heady turtle]

The cheaper

[hasty sphinx]

nice switcharoo there lol

[tired pilot]

can i ask why ?

[heady turtle]

@tired pilot ^

[fading glacier]

both perform the same, at that level the cooling solution is ok for both

so get the cheaper

[queen birch]

help, i’ve never had this problem before. my gpu temps go from 40-50 to 100-110 within seconds of launching any game

before it was just crashing whenever i started a game but now the temps are just spiking so high out of no where

[vital oriole]

Is this Celsius?

[queen birch]

yeah

[vital oriole]

sheesh

Well, that's definitely very wrong

Sounds like the gpu needs cleaning

Or try checking fan curve with msi afterburner

[fading glacier]

fans not working or the heatsink itself is very very dirty D:

[odd siren]

Cracked or old paste?

When was the last time you took the card apart to service it @queen birch ?

[livid idol]

An important question is what GPU, because an old model that's not maintained could do that

[odd siren]

Some pastes also have a short service life like kryonaut

[queen birch]

yesterday :/ i’ll crack it open again tomorrow and take a look at the paste

[odd siren]

Ah it might be a mounting problem then

[queen birch]

maybe i didn’t tighten enough??

[odd siren]

Redo the paste and spread across the whole die

[queen birch]

how would i do that?

[odd siren]

Doing a pea dot or cross doesn't work on dies

You have to spread it and cover it entirely

Old credit card works?

[queen birch]

so i have to get more paste lmao

[odd siren]

Something plastic and has a flat edge

Ye

[livid idol]

Or tightened too much

Or uneven

[queen birch]

i’ll send a pic tomorrow and you guys could tel me if the paste is good or not?

[odd siren]

Sure

It's different to cpu's as there's no IHS, so a decent coverage or spread isn't good enough

If a spot is missing contact*, it's a part of the gpu and it will get hot without any chance to dissipate to the heatsink

Unlike with an ihs which soaks it up and spreads it kind of like a mini heatsink over the die

[queen birch]

okay thanks guys!

[wheat crag]

Dang a 4070 is suppose to be 499 and beats a 3090 ti

[livid idol]

Pricing has yet to be confirmed but I doubt it'll be that low

And I seriously doubt it'll beat the 90 ti, 80 ti maybe

[wheat crag]

Well some leaks show it got 10k on timespy extreme

[quick imp]

if you are talking about the toms hardware report it says more than 499

[livid idol]

Even Nvidia doesn't know what they'll charge yet so who knows

[livid idol]

One benchmark doesn't tell the whole story, and it wouldn't be the first time hardware was made with specific tests in mind.

[odd siren]

I expect 4070 to be 599 tbh

Indulging that slow nvidia price creep for the last couple gens

[livid idol]

Besides that could be an overclocked golden engineering sample for all we know

[vital oriole]

599 sounds more reasonable for 4070

499? i doubt nvidia would do that

[quick imp]

4000 series cards bouta use 700 W

[velvet grail]

Just MSRP, not even confirmed and we'll see much higher prices than MSRP as always

[vital oriole]

nah

the shortages aren't bad anymore

heck current gen gpus are like flooding the market rn lol

way too many gpus left in stocks

aibs are angry about this rn, so nvidia had to push 40 series launch very late into 2022

[wheat crag]

I mean like it’s almost winter, playing maxed settings and rtx plus a heater

[velvet grail]

I have the feeling we'll still get higher prices for no reason

[wheat crag]

It’s a win win

[vital oriole]

aibs are wanting to get rid of current gpu stock so badly

hence we're seeing great deals

[wheat crag]

“Great deals”

Y’all see that new gpu website

[vital oriole]

in some cases

[quick imp]

who needs a heater when you have a 4070

[vital oriole]

not always

[wheat crag]

Justgpu

[vital oriole]

yes, that's newegg

[velvet grail]

The only thing I hope is better prices for 3000 series after 4000 release

[vital oriole]

you can just buy gpus from newegg instead of there

[wheat crag]

Doesn’t really make sense when Newegg exist

[vital oriole]

well, it's to dump gpu stock lol

with fake benchmarks

to lure people into buying trash gpus

like 6400 and 6500xt

[velvet grail]

6400 🤢

[vital oriole]

they're lying about 3060 vs 3070 lol

their "benchmark" results are pulled right out of their ass

[wheat crag]

They were comping pci withd has a benchmark lol

[vital oriole]

saying difference is only 25%

[quick imp]

what is the correct benchmark for the 3060 vs 3070

im debating getting a 3070

but idk

[vital oriole]

well

the difference is way higher

look at it this way, 3060 is about 2070 perf

and 3070 is 2080ti perf

[quick imp]

ah

I keep finding 3060s for like 700 dollars

and 3070s for 500-600

[vital oriole]

yikes

[wheat crag]

L

[vital oriole]

well if you're in the us 3060ti can be had for below 500 rn

[velvet grail]

3070 ~45% more powerful than 3060

[wheat crag]

I wonder if 40 series fixed the thermal pad issue lol

[vital oriole]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/L9BG3C/msi-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-lhr-8-gb-ventus-2x-ocv1-video-card-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-ventus-2x-8g-ocv1-lhr

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/89BG3C/msi-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-lhr-8-gb-ventus-3x-oc-video-card-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-ventus-3x-8g-oc-lhr

these two are cheapest ones

[wheat crag]

L deals

[vital oriole]

2x is meh but fine enough

[wheat crag]

3070 fe is 500

[vital oriole]

if you don't want meh deals, there's always amd lol

and 3070 fe doesn't exist anymore

[velvet grail]

Venus 2x 3060ti isn't that good for thermals

[vital oriole]

unless you get best buy drops or something

[velvet grail]

I'd go for 3x

[vital oriole]

yeah, but it's fine

[quick imp]

it hurts seeing better GPUs cost less than the one i have now

[vital oriole]

i would go for 3x myself too

[wheat crag]

Yea my local one usually has them in stock

[quick imp]

my best buy has a 3070 founders edition

for 500

[velvet grail]

I paid 380 for 2080 Gigabyte

Still a good card

[vital oriole]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xf92FT/sapphire-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12-gb-pulse-video-card-11306-02-20g

one of the best 6700xt

[quick imp]

i simply will never buy an AMD card

i only trust them for CPUs

[wheat crag]

Amd is decent

For their gpus

[quick imp]

I have a ryzen 5 2600x rn

I just bought a 5800x

[vital oriole]

radeon 6000 series is nice

drivers isn't a problem anymore

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RFGbt6/xfx-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12-gb-speedster-swft-309-video-card-rx-67xtyjfdv

this one's even cheaper

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bfLFf7/msi-radeon-rx-6750-xt-12-gb-gaming-x-trio-video-card-radeon-rx-6750-xt-gaming-x-trio-12g oooor

you can get this

[wheat crag]

Decent deal sorta

Better then a 3070 iirc

Or close to it

[quick imp]

ill consider my options

[vital oriole]

6750xt matches 3070

give or take

[wheat crag]

Well if u don’t care about nividia features it’s fine ig

More vram to

[quick imp]

im a big fan of the nivida control panel

[velvet grail]

MSI afterburner sometimes doesn't load my GPU OC profile1 at startup and I have to set it manually, does anyone know how to solve this?

It's not all the times, just rarely

[vital oriole]

amd adrenalin software is also good

ah, that's probably afterburner glitch lol

i have it happen at times too

[wheat crag]

Same

[vital oriole]

annoying but i can't do anything about it

[velvet grail]

Uhh

[quick imp]

i think i just found a fake amazon deal

they're saying this 970 is 62% off

[velvet grail]

It's probably not "fake", they just put a slightly lower price and say they discounted from a much higher one

[wheat crag]

970 is old too

[quick imp]

they are saying it was 500 dollars

[vital oriole]

yikes

[wheat crag]

I wonder how many 980 ti sli builds still exist lol

[quick imp]

and I keep finding NVMe drives on sale

that are ridiculous too

[odd siren]

4x 980 sli stanks

[velvet grail]

980ti was my second option for the 1070 upgrade

But the 6gb vram is
Bleh

[quick imp]

im disappointed as hell in these new Mobo IOs

[magic wing]

there is no nvidia features anymore

amd has all the features nvidia does at this point

except cuda which is useless for games

[odd siren]

Very true. It's mostly a case of widespread adoption at this point

[heady turtle]

Fsr will just be another time and amds voice thingy isn't as good but it's just released

[odd siren]

Just a matter of time now. If they do well with Navi 31/2/3 then maybe we'll see them work on something to rival cuda soon

[dense cliff]

What do you guys think is a fair asking price for a used 3070ti these days? Trying to dump mine to get the next step up since gpu prices are back down.

[heady turtle]

Depends on model but like $400 USD depends on country too

[dense cliff]

USA, unfortunately I got the crappiest model one the EVGA XC3

[heady turtle]

That's not a crap model it's fine

Yeah I'd say 400-420 probably

[wheat crag]

U could prob do 500 if u just want some extra cash

But 400-450will sell quicker probably

[velvet grail]

How do I set (if possible) the GPU I want to use for each game/program? I have a 2013 laptop with hd4000 & gt740m, the Nvidia "GPU" is slightly more powerful but uses more power, I'd like to use it only when playing certain games, for the rest I'll use intel iGPU
Os: win 8

Laptop battery is pretty bad, lasts 1-2 hours while doing almost no heavy work... And I think using always the Nvidia GPU is too intensive since it uses more watts...

[fading glacier]

That depend on the program/game

some games have the option in display/video settings to set the video card used

[velvet grail]

But I guess I can set what GPU to use for each program on windows/NVCP

[fading glacier]

dont think so

[velvet grail]

What about the ones that don't?

I'll see what I can found

[fading glacier]

yup, as far as i know, if a game/program gives you no option to change that then they will use the video card plugged to that monitor as the one used

Maybe if you have 2 monitors but the second is connected to the igpu and you run that program on your second monitor, then most likely that program will use the igpu as default. Maybe you can try that approach, but im not sure of that.

[velvet grail]

I don't know how it will work with hdmi/VGA outputs with external monitor by then it's not a laptop anymore
Id like not to bring a enormous monitor or TV with me •_•

[fading glacier]

ah ofc

[lone pond]

what is the best rtx 3060ti 2 fan

[cerulean rover]

Why not 3 fan variants?

[keen nacelle]

Probably size constraint

I think there's a decent evga 2 slot card

I forget the model thougy

[dreamy dragon]

PCthunderjet#6709 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[cerulean rover]

Yes but depending on size constraint 3 fan cards fit

therefore need more info

[lone pond]

no size constraint its because itll look way worse than a 2 fan

[cerulean rover]

prob gaming x

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0995TBTLS

[heady turtle]

I mean it won't but yeah gaming x

[lone pond]

yes!!!! thats what i was thinking love you

[lone pond]

trust me it will

[cerulean rover]

aesthetics are subjective

you do you

[lone pond]

I like bigger 3 fan cards

[cerulean rover]

most people do

[scenic garnet]

my founders 3080 sadly only has 2

I still like it

[fading glacier]

holy eff

evga 3090ti sold at 1100 at their website

seems like it will be at 900 or 800 by october at this rate

yummy

[quartz sun]

idc what anyone says

2060 super is best price/performance for 1k budget pc

literally no better card that fits that price range, has really good performance and still gives you enough money to be comfortable with the rest

[quick imp]

Can’t wait for the Christmas price gouge

[fading glacier]

by xmas the 30 series will have a hard time against amd 7000xt series

a very hard time

[ivory herald]

By xmas 6000 series will have a hard time against 40 series.

[scenic garnet]

By xmas I'll be too poor to afford either

[fading glacier]

assuming nvidia will step up to challenge amd... until now they are very quiet

way too quiet -____-

either way, it will be a fun xmas this year

what a time to be alive

[livid idol]

You assume 40 series will launch by then. It's looking like only the 4090 and maybe the 4080 will be available by then.

[ivory herald]

Well nvidia never releases every single gpu in the series at once of course. You assume nvidia is gonna give amd too big of a headstart. Who knows, idc though. Mainly was just twisting around Rav's obvious statement to suit Nv.

[livid idol]

Well Intel has already given AMD a head start so if Nvidia does too they're set

[scenic garnet]

https://media.giphy.com/media/l9jiNVVkdsG4M/giphy.gif

[ivory herald]

@scenic garnet hah. Note that when I said headstart, meant when us normal consumers can actually purchase. Personally sure wouldn't pick amd just because their new gpu was out a week before Nv, or something like that.

[scenic garnet]

I was just being facetious anyway

the workings of multibillion companies fighting over our money is nothing to take seriously

unless you have stock in said companies

then please take it seriously

[fading glacier]

👀

chill guys

we are too poor to even get one anyway

[hasty sphinx]

We are?

[scenic garnet]

I am

[vital oriole]

competition is good tho

not having it means we will have very expensive products

it's why we all like to talk about it

[magic wing]

@heady turtle you will be happy to know that i have finally ordered a displayport cable

On Tuesday i will no longer be hdmi gang

[odd siren]

That's bingo board worthy

[heady turtle]

You where using hdmi ? Gross x)

[sonic mural]

*were

[magic wing]

displayport 1.4 cable for a display port1.2 monitor

[magic wing]

shut up uve already given me crap about this reeee

You are the reason I bought a dp cable

[heady turtle]

Shush it's early

[sonic mural]

Friends don't let friends use a HDMI cable

[heady turtle]

👉👈

[magic wing]

I still don kno whats wrong with hdmi tho

hdmi is great

[sonic mural]

Demote from techie rn

[magic wing]

fr

I actually dont see how display port is better than hdmi

[sonic mural]

Maybe not with your cringe 6750xt, but when you get a actually good GPU and can play high res and high fps, v nice

[magic wing]

I mean even if I got 2x 3090ti, im still using just one 1080p 144hz panel

I simply don see how hdmi is worse

[vital oriole]

it just depends on hdmi version of gpu and monitor

same for dp ofc

sometimes you get more with hdmi

[odd siren]

It's not really worse but also how could you

(I have no idea btw)

[scenic garnet]

I use HDMI 2.1 for my TV

But monitor has always been DP

No exceptions

[odd siren]

I have a hdmi 2.1 monitor but I use DP 1.4

[scenic garnet]

As it should

[vital oriole]

there's virtually no difference in dp and hdmi other than versatility i guess

[heady turtle]

Well DP has freesync built into the spec which is hot

[magic wing]

my amd card has that over hdmi

[heady turtle]

As well as usually more bandwidth in your case downs make difference tho

[heady turtle]

Some monitors don't support freesync on hdmi tis a problem

Not the gpu

[magic wing]

oh? ive never seen this tbh

[heady turtle]

Yeah it's common enough actually

When i say freesync i mean the whole standard of that tech btw so gsync too

[magic wing]

ahhhhhh i see

yeah ive heard of gsync not liking hdmi

[ivory herald]

[heady turtle]

880hz monitor when

[ivory herald]

666*

[heady turtle]

696.9hz monitor

https://tenor.com/view/evil-plan-evil-smile-fight-me-evil-raccoon-gif-13886764

[lone pond]

can someone help me i dont know if a rtx 3060ti gaming x (2 fan) will fit because i dont know if theres enough space between the cpu cooler and the pcie slot

[heady turtle]

There's enough space

[lone pond]

wait ill send a picture

[heady turtle]

Only space you need to worry about is underneath

[lone pond]

oh

are you sure

[heady turtle]

The spacing from CPU cooler to pcie slot is standard

[lone pond]

i barely have any space

[heady turtle]

Yeah it might be a tight fit but it will

[lone pond]

ok thanks

[heady turtle]

Np

Also might need to check length depending on case but

Not cpu to gpu spacing

[lone pond]

length is fine

[stable cloud]

hey

[hasty sphinx]

My GPU has landed at newegg. Hopefully they get my new one sent off asap.

[hasty sphinx]

OO since I paid for overnight shipping on my original item, Newegg said that it's posted for overnight shipping on my RMA as well. They said they will usually ship the RMA off 2-4 business days after being marked as delivered. That's so awesome because I was prepared to pay for overnight again just to get it back to me before my vacation started.

[heady turtle]

Shweet

[celest steppe]

Hey guys I recently got a msi geforce gtx 1660 super ventus xs oc and colors are not accurate and it looks weird. I have tried using different monitors and still nothing changes. I'll show u a picture for you guys.

oh I don't have permission to share pictures 😭

I would appreciate your help 👍🏻

[heady turtle]

Most likely the port of the cable is broke

[celest steppe]

first I was using a hdmi and then I a dp port and nothing changed

[sonic mural]

could try Win + Ctrl + Shift + B

probs wont fix but worth a shot

otherwise could try ddu and reinstalling drivers

!ddu

[dreamy dragon]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[celest steppe]

thank you!! and what does win+ctrl+shift +b would do??

[sonic mural]

Resets your driver's but it typically can help with smaller things glitching, not usually as much of a big color issue like thag

But may as well try since it takes a couple seconds

[lofty crane]

ideal price for a 3060ti

[charred lake]

For 400$ best buy drops

[vital oriole]

haha 400

pipe dream

you can keep dreaming

i would go with 6700xt instead

if you don't need nvenc and rt

and cuda

[keen nacelle]

it's in stock at most best buys

my best buy has had 3060 tis and 3070s for msrp for like a week now

[vital oriole]

yeah but not everyone has a best buy tho

[keen nacelle]

3070 tis and 3080 tis too

[vital oriole]

that's good to see

[keen nacelle]

most do

best buy is very common in the US

[vital oriole]

hm, fair enough

then that's a reasonable thing to say now then

[keen nacelle]

ye, if only it were a few months ago

woulda bought a 3070 myself

[hasty sphinx]

will a 1650s dedicated gpu be better than this laptops graphics?

https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/pdp/hp-envy-x360-convertible-laptop-pc-15-ed1000-(169x0av)

I think it's 11th gen integrated so I think so, but I just want to make sure before I start building my girl a pc that'll be better than her laptop for playing FF14

[vital oriole]

yes

[keen nacelle]

yes

by far

[vital oriole]

it will be a lot better

[keen nacelle]

like, not even close

[vital oriole]

you need like rdna 3 apu to come any close to it

[hasty sphinx]

better than Iris X? I've never heard of that.

alright thanks.

[vital oriole]

iris xe is just 1030 perf

[hasty sphinx]

Anyone by chance have a super cheap build I can do? I have the GPU already. My girl doesn't do any super large gaming besides ff14 since she has a ps4.

[vital oriole]

12100f would do

imma whip up something

[odd siren]

You could do 12100f and a decent h610

[hasty sphinx]

anything cheaper than 12100? it doesn't need to be running anything newer

[odd siren]

10105f

5600 if you can bios update

[keen nacelle]

what's the budget for the whole build

[hasty sphinx]

I'd prob go intel.

I'm thinking like. not more than 500? If need be I have the 4000D airflow and all the fans I could ever need. Although I'd rather not use the 4000D

[odd siren]

10105f + that b560, 16gb silly cone power, stock cooler

Tuf bronze 550w

I don't wanna pcpp rn

[hasty sphinx]

if you can go even cheaper than 500 that'd be cool too

[keen nacelle]

re using the 1650s?

[hasty sphinx]

yes

[vital oriole]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YDXx2m

there

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gR43gb'

[vital oriole]

bang on below 400

i think mine would be better tho

12100f a lot faster

[hasty sphinx]

it doesn't need to be fast fast

[vital oriole]

well, it's still good to have

[hasty sphinx]

it's literally only for ff14. She can use her laptop for internet and stuff

[vital oriole]

but if you really need to save moners

go with bacca's

[hasty sphinx]

yes save moneies if I can

[odd siren]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Jh9Ymr

I opened it

[keen nacelle]

could just buy an old optiplex

[vital oriole]

just gotta make sure it's a mid tower

[odd siren]

Oh we did the same list

[vital oriole]

psu probably isn't enough tho

[odd siren]

[vital oriole]

cause 1650s needs 6 pin

it's not slot power

better to just make a build

case can be used

it's low power so like mesh isn't even a requirement

but would be good to have ofc

more optimal that way

linus ran 12100f on stock cooler and a 2060 just fine on a case with no mesh front or fan at all

[hasty sphinx]

just to be sure.. the 10100f won't bottleneck the gpu?

[vital oriole]

nah

[keen nacelle]

no

[hasty sphinx]

at least meaningfully?

[vital oriole]

not at all

[hasty sphinx]

awesome.

[keen nacelle]

i once saw someone selling a 10100f 3090 build lmao

physically hurt me

[odd siren]

That ain't a bottleneck that an undervolt

[vital oriole]

lol

what was the psu?

im imagining e tier

[odd siren]

Put into a 10100f build?

Probably 400w

[vital oriole]

question directed at bacca

ye

[keen nacelle]

pretty sure it was a 750w, but i dont remember the model

[vital oriole]

hm

could be bomb

could be good

either way the 3090 probably doesn't get to consume much

little 10100f holding it back hard

[odd siren]

Another case of other pc parts containing the chaos of everything burning

[keen nacelle]

yeah lmao

he was defending himself in the comments too

smthn about 10100f being perfectly fine with the 3090 at 4k

[vital oriole]

but the psu

that's not an excuse at all

[hasty sphinx]

So thinking I won't need like super airflow with that cpu gpu combo?

[vital oriole]

it's probably at full load all the time like that

and yep

[odd siren]

Even a 10100f would struggle lmao

[keen nacelle]

nah, even the mx330-g air is overkill for that

[vital oriole]

^

it'll just stay so cool you won't see anything over 60c

[keen nacelle]

to be completely honest, I'm not even sure an h510 could push those to throttle

[odd siren]

He's got a 4000d tho

[hasty sphinx]

I'd rather not use

[odd siren]

Eh?

[hasty sphinx]

It's my first case so I don't want to get rid of it

[odd siren]

You using 5000D rn?

[hasty sphinx]

yes

[odd siren]

Oh

[keen nacelle]

I cant wait to get rid of my first case

this things so annoying

[odd siren]

Make trophy stand

[keen nacelle]

huge ass hdd bay in the way of cleaning the front fans

[odd siren]

Yeah I got rid of mine

[hasty sphinx]

So I could go with a different cheaper case? or should just stick with that one?

[vital oriole]

anything will do

[odd siren]

I mean you could really use any case

[vital oriole]

^

linus showed it to us lol

[odd siren]

Unless you plan to upgrade her pc at some point

[vital oriole]

in his low budget vid

like 600 bucks gaming pc

[keen nacelle]

not much thats cheaper

mx330 maybe

[odd siren]

If there's ever any upgrades a mesh case would make sense

[vital oriole]

that route would have to be used cases

for something to be cheaper

[hasty sphinx]

really no reason to upgrade. She has her laptop for anything else she will want to do and the only game that is being played is ff14.

[odd siren]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JtWfrH/thermaltake-versa-h17-microatx-mini-tower-case-ca-1j1-00s1nn-00

[hasty sphinx]

She also has a ps4 to play any other game that she wants to paly.

play*

[odd siren]

Sort by price (lowest first

It's like a 165W build it's not gonna be a lot of heat

Honestly just about anything

[hasty sphinx]

that's not incluiding the 1650s though

[keen nacelle]

h17 will be fine with it, but i don't see a point of saving the few $ over regular mx330

[odd siren]

1650s is a 100w card

Unless it's higher factory oc

[hasty sphinx]

yeah

[vital oriole]

watch linus vid on $600 budget build

and you will have an idea

[hasty sphinx]

pcpp says 250W total. and I already know the optimal OC for the card which is pretty well max that anyone could do on it.

[vital oriole]

a 2060 will run fine even in no airflow case

[odd siren]

I ran the 6600 against the glass in that other pc and it was pulling 250W and not overheating

[hasty sphinx]

alright.

[keen nacelle]

i ran a 1030 in a volcano and it didn't throttle

[hasty sphinx]

under load with OC in my 4000D with case fans at 20% it never got to 60c

[odd siren]

6770k

[rustic pulsar]

debating if I should snag a 3080ti fo $833 pre tax

prolly around 870 ish after

900 after tax

sell my 3070ti for 500

[heady turtle]

personally id just wait for 40 series then

[rustic pulsar]

i am very much considering upgrading to 4k

[heady turtle]

okay hear me out tho 3090 perf for like 500ish tho

personally i think waiting for next gen is even more compelling reason

[rustic pulsar]

do we have an estimated release date

and there could be another shortage right?

[heady turtle]

80 and 90 before christmas id say

highly doubt considering they are over supplied with current gen

[rustic pulsar]

I think ill hold out, save up and drop like $1500 for the holidays on gpu + monitor

[rustic pulsar]

wait but wont the 80 and 90 be like at least $1500 usd

[heady turtle]

who knows what 90 will be but id imagine 700-800$ 4080

[wicked hound]

Oversupply could change that

Which is lucky, cuz if not it'd def be $9^9^9^9 4080

[rustic pulsar]

damn sounds nice, why the oversupply? I know its occuring with 3000 series but why 4000?

[wicked hound]

Not many peeps will buy a two billion dollar 4080 that's moderately faster then a $800 used 3090, or $750(?) new 6900xt (unless RT)

High end GPUs already have a low marketshare, keeping them high price will only lower said marketshare

[rustic pulsar]

or i might stick with my 3070ti for a bit, save up more, and get 5000 or 6000 series (maybe even later) once my 3070ti becomes a bit slower for modern games... then shell like a billion on 6090ti

and 4k

ok i made my decision

I pass on the gpu now... and get a 4k monitor during holidays. I don't play many AAA games, so the fps hit wont be too big a deal

[fading glacier]

oversupply is the reason of the problem rn

nvidia purchased too much lovelace chips thinking the crypto mining market will last forever and now the foundry will not downsize the order already on the making

nvidia have way too much lovelace chips in warehouses collecting dust (and those warehouses aint cheap)

and the aibs dont want to take those chips until nvidia help them to get rid of the 30 series

[balmy magnet]

i was sold a 3060 last year for approx. $280, but I have been thinking about going to a 3070 or 3070Ti then give the 3060 to my kid who has a 1660Ti, is it worth the trick-down upgrade? lol

[fading glacier]

try to go for a 3080

3070 and 70ti are not worth price wise, the 3080 is slightly more money but a lot more performance that 70 and 70ti

some 70s are about 700usd while the 80s are like 750 rn

[balmy magnet]

my issue is $550 for the 3070 w/ the PSU I have now (Corsair RM650x) or the approx. $800 3080 and a new PSU so more cost

[fading glacier]

oh then the price is ok, 550 for a 3070 is a good deal

plus you can reuse your psu

[heady turtle]

3070 ti is a more expensive 3070 but it depends personally I'd wait or go a used 3070/3060 ti

[heady turtle]

Meh it's normal now

[fading glacier]

pato crushing my dreams

[heady turtle]

Soz

Also FE 3060 tis and 3070s have been available

Although real value play is 3060 ti fe or rx 6700

[fading glacier]

yup

3060ti or 3080... there is nothing in between worth the time (nvidia speaking)

On AMD side 6600xt, 700xt and 800xt are all worth on their own

[balmy magnet]

if that's the case i might just wait a bit

[fading glacier]

In my opinion, the lowest point will be at the announcement of the 7000/40 series

thats what i think

more delay means low prices will go even lower

but then again, thats just my opinion

[balmy magnet]

ty both for the info, gives me more to rattle around my brain box

[dense cliff]

Is a 430w PSU enough for an eGPU dock?

Going to try to use it with a GTX 1660 (not ti or super)

[odd siren]

Should be pretty plenty, what model of psu is it?

[dense cliff]

Thermaltake 430w PS-SPD-0430NPCWUS-W

80+ black which probably isn't the best

Trying to turn an old thinkpad x230 into a retro emulator but the Intel HD 4000 is not the best

[odd siren]

F tier. No I wouldn't use that

Consider a $48 Asus TUF bronze instead

Sorry $44
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bVD7YJ/asus-tuf-gaming-b-450-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-tuf-gaming-450b

That thermaltake psu apparently has a dodgy history

[dense cliff]

Ah gotcha, not too much of a price difference either so imma try it out.

[odd siren]

450W should be more than enough for the 1660

The x230 has thunderbolt?

[dense cliff]

"ExpressCard" 54mm slot with a PCIe conversion dock

Only x4 link speed instead of x16 so I'm expecting some interesting results

[odd siren]

X4 is normal for an egpu just as long as you can manage that then it could work

Have no idea what these other things are that you're using tho lol

Expresscard looking like something that changes the IO of the lappy

But usb 3?

I don't think I saw the right one

[dense cliff]

Yeah not sure how it goes together exactly. The dock takes two usb 3 connections one standard then a ExpressCard converter to USB 3.0. The 24 pin power and 6 pin then somehow that equates to a dual 8 pin power output?

I just hope I don't burn the house down when I hook it up.

[hasty sphinx]

My rma 6950xt says it'll ship out by tomorrow and since it has overnight shipping it should be here by Thursday

[keen flax]

Hello I've been having random reebots on my PC (it freezes for a minute or two and then restarts). I check the windows crash reports and they always say it's either this bluescreen code: 133 or bluescreen code: 116. Both seem to be graphics related. I tried completely reinstalling the drivers and nothing. It's not a heat issue since I tried doing a 3d mark test and the highest the gpu got was 68° and the CPU about 64°.

My system specs are
Ryzen 5 5600x
Asus ROG b550-f wifi
Evga xc3 ultra 3070
Corsair rmx 750w gold psu
16gb Corsair vengeance RGB ram.

I built it almost two years ago on Dec 2020 and it has had this issue for about 6 months.

I noticed it happens when I exit a game or when I open any app or just randomly, but it never happens ingame. Also I use it for about 6hrs per day and it only happens once, most of the time if it does it and restarts it never does it again until you turn it on again.

[tropic remnant]

Every company has a dodgy history

[odd siren]

Mhm and every company has it's own bad products

Here's a pretty detailed explanation why the thermaltake earns it's F tier @tropic remnant . It's reddit tho but they seem to have a great amount of info

The missing basic protections of that psu make me glad they asked before they bought one

Lol

[keen nacelle]

My skytech pre built came with that

Not only was it a terrible psu, they gave me the wrong one

Advertised the 600, and that it was gold

Sent me the 500w smart

[languid hollow]

How much VRAM does the Ryzen 7 5700G (vega 8 5000 gpu) support? 4gb?

[livid idol]

It depends on how much RAM you have installed

It's all shared with the system

If memory serves the dynamic memory size is controlled by direct x and you can choose how much is "dedicated" (preallocated) in bios

[languid hollow]

I have heard that it can be limited by how much memory the integrated GPU supports. The vega 11 for 3000 series only supports 4GB.

[livid idol]

That's the preallocated memory size, windows is dynamically using more as needed. You can see the max by running dxdiag.

[rugged thunder]

Yall think a 6800 is worth the extra $100ish more then like

A 6750xt?

[odd siren]

yes if the psu can handle it and the monitor can take on the fps gain

[rugged thunder]

165hz monitor

1440p

Unless the 6700xt is enough for high frame rate 1440p

Just high settings tbh

Cant tell them from ultra

A 6700xt is like $450

[odd siren]

6800 would be good there too but also your psu?

[rugged thunder]

850 watt gold

Lemme find the model

[odd siren]

thx

knew I was gonna ask lol

[rugged thunder]

Yuh

[odd siren]

nice, will be fine

I would say both are fine for 1440p but I think the 6800 will leverage the screen a bit better

[rugged thunder]

What about the 6750xt?

Seems like a weird middle ground

That's $500ish

[odd siren]

would say it's fine too'

[rugged thunder]

Cheapest 6800

Feels like this is a bit cheapo looking

Idk why

[odd siren]

gaming x is actually solid

but 6800 is a decent jump on 1440p

there's a graph in the pins, it'll give a good idea

6800 is basically a downbin 6800 xt

[rugged thunder]

Handicapped one

[odd siren]

so they shoot fairly close to each other (depending on the model)

yeah handicapped is one way to think about it

[keen nacelle]

it's the difference between 3070 ti and 3080

[ivory herald]

Although 70 ti is rarely an actual good value.

[rugged thunder]

The 6600 seems low, but then I remembered they most likely took RT into account

Which yeah makes sense

On the graph

[odd siren]

6600 you can yeet the heck out of tho

[rugged thunder]

Thats what I'm upgrading from

6600 at 1440p sometimes isn't fun

[odd siren]

this is a pretty good way to look at it, if a 3070 and 6750XT are very similar, then a 3070 TI and a 6800 would be fairly close

it's a handicapped 6800 xt tho. as far as die goes

[rugged thunder]

What do you think Is the best bang for the buck?

If that makes sense

[merry glacier]

how often do you guys reapply thermal paste on your amd cards?

[rugged thunder]

I'm only playing at high settings tho

I wanted a 3070 but for the prices amd is better

[odd siren]

when temps start looking unusually high

[odd siren]

idk if I'd call 6750xt good bang for the buck necessarily when the 6700 xt is so close

6800 XT is also only a little bit more there over a 6800

[keen nacelle]

meh, 6750xt not really bang for buck when 6700 is 370

oh wait, its 480 now

not bad

[odd siren]

like if you're gonna consider 6750, consider 6700 or 6800(XT) imo

[rugged thunder]

6700xt most likely

[merry glacier]

@odd siren I bought a used card and I wanted to make sure my temps/performance was the best possible. It's a 6600xt, should I just go ahead and reapply paste?

[odd siren]

you've got the non xt 6700 too

but idk how good the non xt is

[keen nacelle]

it's not that much better

[rustic pulsar]

well see how it is first, if its not thottleing no need

[odd siren]

try using it first. it's good to warm up a card anyway before you repaste

if it's a good one it won't get anywhere near throttling since it's only like 160w iirc

[rugged thunder]

6700xt paired with a 5600

[merry glacier]

I've been using it for about a month, its seems ok but it's the first time using a better used card

[rugged thunder]

Because the 5600x didn't seem worth an extra $30

[odd siren]

cpu and gpu combo is fine for 1440p

[rugged thunder]

5600 is probably good for a majority of cards

Since I'm going amd i obviously don't have the need for RT and all that

I wanted a 3070 but I can't justify it

[odd siren]

RT barely makes sense even on a 3090

[merry glacier]

@odd siren In the amd Adrenalin software it fails the stress test but the temps are fine

while gaming

[odd siren]

try occt gpu 3d test

amd stress test fails for me too

but I can run 2.5x the power through the card and I'm fine on temps

(6600)

[rugged thunder]

My 6600 draws like

[odd siren]

set it to like 98% utilisation

[rugged thunder]

100 watts

[odd siren]

ye mine too, but I ran 250W through it to see what it could do

the vrm's on mine can handle it

would not recommend

[rugged thunder]

Just sold an old laptop for $300

[merry glacier]

@odd siren Alright I'll check it out. What are your temps like

[rugged thunder]

Hence why I kinda wanna upgrade the main rig

[odd siren]

what card is yours?

specific aib

mine's a 3 fan eagle so it's overbuilt in every way

[merry glacier]

@odd siren msi mech 6600xt oc 8gb

[odd siren]

hmm, we'll see how you go lol

inb4 distant Fal'cie screams lmao

[rugged thunder]

I do prefer how Nvidia cards look tho

[odd siren]

eagle cards look so nice to me lol

[rugged thunder]

I think without RT the 6700xt is pretty close to the 3070?

[odd siren]

yep

6800 beats it outright for $20 more

[rugged thunder]

Alot of people benchmark at ultra when like

do high please lol

[odd siren]

6800xt destroys it for $80 more

[rugged thunder]

I've never been good seeing differences between ultra quality and high

[merry glacier]

Thanks for the help

[odd siren]

np, how did it go?

note the most important temp will be listed as the hotspot temp

as long as that's like, under 105C then it's fine

under 95C is ideal

because then it doesn't throttle

[merry glacier]

Oh sorry I can't get to it tonight I was actually researching how to reapply paste. I was gonna do that tomorrow until y'all helped me out

[odd siren]

oh i see

no worries

if your hotspot temp can't be contained comfortably then yeah, consider a repaste

you may also need thermal pads

[merry glacier]

Ok. I've been researching but I can't find the thickness on those particular cards

Of the pads

[odd siren]

yeah i believe it

best way to find out is to open it

if you're very careful tho separating it you may be fine

[rugged thunder]

It's kinda weird how AMD kinds avoided RT this gen

You think they'll try next gen?

Like I'm happy amd is kinda doing a "gaming purely" focus

But still

[analog wolf]

Rt is nice but I never use it so probably go for an amd if your ok with a amd cpu

[sonic mural]

They didnt

Radeon 6000 rt perf was on par with Nvidia 20 series

That's pretty good for a late start

[vital oriole]

^

7000 will have better rt

[hasty sphinx]

Thats just for AMD right? Because I vaguely remember someone in here telling me not to worry about my hotspot temps on my nvidia.

[livid idol]

You only need to worry about hotspot on Nvidia if it's significantly higher than core

[odd siren]

Yep

[rugged thunder]

[odd siren]

[rugged thunder]

Do you guys think video benchmarks test with SAM on or off?

[rugged thunder]

They never mention it

[heady turtle]

Off unless they say otherwise, hw unboxed if you wanna see sam on, gamers nexus if you want it off

[rugged thunder]

In gamernexus the 3070 and 6700xt look pretty much neck and neck

At 1440p*

**and no rt

***and no productivity

[livid idol]

That's about right. The 3070 pulls ahead a little bit sometimes. The 6750 XT beats the 3070 handily.

And ray tracing sucks right now anyway

[rugged thunder]

At 1440p, you'd probably need a 3080 to do RT more comfy

[livid idol]

I'm not a fan of a 50% performance hit for a minor improvement in lights

[rugged thunder]

Thats what I think

Cool proof of concept

Not worth my frames dying

[livid idol]

Yeah the tech totally has potential, but it's yet to be done right.

Minecraft is decent but that runs at 100s of fps even with RT on

[rugged thunder]

I assume that's the bedrock version?

[livid idol]

Java

[rugged thunder]

Ah

More impressive then

Considering the mess of code that is

6700xt seems like my best choice, I don't need RT or I don't stream

[livid idol]

You can stream on AMD just fine. It's just Nvidia is better quality.

[rugged thunder]

Yeah

Most I do is those 15 second clips

And send them on discord

And the gamernexus video is from when the card released

I hope the drivers got a bit better

[livid idol]

They have yes

Here's some more recent data, 2 months old

[rugged thunder]

The 3 all seen pretty much in the same ballpark

[livid idol]

1440p

[rugged thunder]

I wanted to get like a 6800 but that's a tad out of the price range

[livid idol]

Yes they're all very close overall, totally worth saving the money and getting AMD

[rugged thunder]

I was thinking the 6700xt because it's on sale

For like $450

[livid idol]

You can barely get a 3060 ti for that price, good deal