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trim nacelle
@flat zephyr
neon phoenix
i wish the Redbull x2014 was real. would probably kill you...but😣
halcyon swallow
shy comet
kar go vroom
flat zephyr
balmy egret
YESSSSSS
trim nacelle
timid moth
LETS FRIGGGINNNNN GOOOO
https://tenor.com/view/driveclub-racing-game-driveclub-bikes-hypercars-racing-gif-571962505021835394
@silent meteor @lofty stream car channel is here
silent meteor
sheeeesh
timid moth
timid moth
mossy marsh
Zoom zoom
neon phoenix
@timid moth your new favorite channel.
timid moth
<@255061019322351618> your new favorite channel.
perhaps
lofty stream
https://tenor.com/view/driveclub-racing-game-driveclub-bikes-hypercars-racing-gi...
zoom zoom
timid moth
zoom zoom
amber rock
How often do brake pads need to be checked
faint wadi
How often do brake pads need to be checked
Every oil change. It's quick to do while you have the car jacked up already.
Most places will do a quick multi point check off the car, filters, and other fluids when you go in for an oil change by default. It gives them a chance to upsell you, after all.
timid moth
Or just the one that I can post images
You just gotta talk a bit to achieve the regular role, don't spam.
winged root
timid moth
average american trucker
timid estuary
am i doin it rite?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/93/BMW_Isetta_-_Flickr_-_mick_-_Lumix.jpg/1200px-BMW_Isetta_-_Flickr_-_mick_-_Lumix.jpg
timid moth
thats a car yes
timid moth
gloomy valve
<:kekw:741678350791081994>
That lap went hard but this is cinematic
gloomy valve
timid moth
neon phoenix
Nice
balmy egret
neon phoenix
I don't get it
faint wadi
I think the dad is an F1 driver or something idk
balmy egret
I don't get it
watch F1
ember sentinel
I thought this channel was for going to be for IRL cars
sturdy spindle
well when you are too poor for real car you just imagine you have a car in games
balmy egret
exactly. so Gran Turismo
timid moth
what in tarnation?
timid moth
I thought this channel was for going to be for IRL cars <:kekw:74167835079108199...
irl cars, racing, car games, tuning/maintenance its probably all
swift compass
well when you are too poor for real car you just imagine you have a car in games
Well
If I can get my roles back
I can post my cars
Ok
swift compass
I think I have a few cars
It’s a pain in the ass setting up a car rental, between paying for a photographer, then praying the car rents out.
timid moth
looks nice
pearl mauve
oblique portal
That color looks very nice
faint wadi
Gotta be careful doing that shade of red, it's pretty close to the trademarked "Ferrari Red" (yes that's a real thing)
oblique portal
No way Ferrari would win a law suit for that
trim nacelle
They actively sue people that put Ferrari's prestige in jeopardy
Quite literally there are like multiple drifters and car restorers that have received cease and desists
Deadmau5 as well
oblique portal
I’ve seen that
trim nacelle
Those are the known cases
oblique portal
Very dumb imo
trim nacelle
Well, it's a prideful italian brand
oblique portal
Too prideful
trim nacelle
Especially because it's Italian, they take appearances seriously lol
oblique portal
They’re like Nintendo but worse
faint wadi
No way Ferrari would win a law suit for that
oblique portal
I remember on yt someone wrapped their Ferrari and got In trouble for it
faint wadi
I remember on yt someone wrapped their Ferrari and got In trouble for it
That's because Ferrari makes you sign an agreement not to modify the car in any way without approval
You also can't sell it without approval
oblique portal
That's because Ferrari makes you sign an agreement not to modify the car in any ...
I didn’t know that
trim nacelle
You are actively hunted if they catch you modifying the logo
That was the whole reason they did it to deadmau5
See other practices:
https://youtube.com/shorts/e9WFzZAzm5I?si=399bbZDJvFAvTDZ4
oblique portal
Corvettes >
faint wadi
At least Chevy doesn't care if you put a stage 4 turbo on it
swift compass
No way Ferrari would win a law suit for that
Ferrari has the best lawyers, they win, they also sue if u do anything to the car to ruin how the company looks
faint wadi
Especially if it's damaging to the brand in any way yes
They sued someone into the ground for making crappy cheap F1 toy cars that happened to have a vague resemblance to their cars
mighty gulch
Nintendo of cars
timid moth
Nintendo of cars
facts
timid moth
faint wadi
That’s why rally is better lol
Rally races are SO much more technical and there's a lot more that goes into them. Driver skill still matters a lot, but you also need a lot of good support or else you won't know when you can cut corners or when you'll smack a rock if you do.
timid moth
rally requires a lot of precision and reaction
formula 1 also needs quick reaction but the cars themselves are very agile compared to rally cars
and also the danger factor comes along
rally is a crazy sport
faint wadi
F1 is a more predictable sport. Sure, anything can happen when there's a bunch of cars on the road. But in a rally, there's a lot less control over the road itself.
timid moth
👆
timid moth
pearl pollen
Holy crap I remember this game
timid moth
Holy crap I remember this game
AUTO MODELLISTA!!!!!!!
timid moth
just started playing this on a ps2 emulator
dope game
gotta play more arcade racers later on
faint wadi
Burnout
pearl pollen
Forgot about test drive unlimited also
Apparently there’s a new one coming out?
Looks pretty neat, wish they could make a racing game that didn’t have the cringiest story physically possible
timid moth
don’t forget underground 2/hot pursuit
played those
timid moth
Apparently there’s a new one coming out?
yessir a new one is coming very soon
around early september
faint wadi
That series had excellent damage physics for the time. I still play Paradise sometimes.
timid moth
same
timid moth
neon phoenix
Capcom
neon phoenix
Carb
timid moth
carbs 4
pearl pollen
AAAAA
faint wadi
This was a fun one to watch. It really highlights the different tricks they use to make it feel faster. https://youtu.be/xJ1Z0TQmj5I?si=jJdgNxUgrMx-I-er
flat zephyr
been playing a bit of gta5 story and the driving is super fun, but i hate that all the cars top out at like 120-130 and feel kinda slow
faint wadi
Good news, there's mods for that
faint wadi
It requires about 5 minutes of google and downloading one program
neon phoenix
👍
swift compass
https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237
?
Don’t think that’s my car?
trim nacelle
Would you pick me up for a drive
swift compass
Would you pick me up for a drive
Come to Florida
trim nacelle
Come to Florida
Damn that's basically Australia where u at
swift compass
🤣
gloomy valve
Gt posting
This was when I was still new to the ps5 controller
It even looks like im new to it with how i turn late and hard on some turns and unsure with throttle but this is the only nurb clip I can upload that looks good
Still doesn’t look that bad tbh
balmy egret
Don’t think that’s my car?
You wouldn't be flexing it in a Discord server 💀
faint wadi
Don't underestimate a person's ability to brag every chance they get to anyone that will listen
The angles are the weird part to me
swift compass
You wouldn't be flexing it in a Discord server 💀
What?
I don’t come here to flex lol
I just come here to show.
swift compass
The angles are the weird part to me
I had to blur the image on the right, got warnings for posting me speeding in my car somehow…
Got termed on my other acc for posting a video of me going 200 lol
@wet lichen if u don’t happen to remember me
That was my main account.
swift compass
You wouldn't be flexing it in a Discord server 💀
It’s not even a “flex” if I get to drive it once a month, and it’s going out for rent
balmy egret
bro pinged me twice without me responding. mf is angry 💀
faint wadi
If it's true then don't worry about the opinion of some random person on the Internet
swift compass
Why am I being flamed for posting my car in a channel meant to post cars
faint wadi
All I said was the angles of the pictures were weird
swift compass
Some kid dmd me telling me to end my life when I posted my cars here
🙈
Unless I did something wrong and it’s not meant for irl cars
faint wadi
And honestly owning a supercar you have to expect (and want, to a degree) this kind of attention
faint wadi
Some kid dmd me telling me to end my life when I posted my cars here
DM me a screenshot and I'll ban them immediately
swift compass
They left already
Don’t know if it was an alt
They joined the same day they created
swift compass
And honestly owning a supercar you have to expect (and want, to a degree) this k...
I wouldn’t have posted it if it offended anyone
I won’t post anymore
faint wadi
It's not so much that it's offensive, as people are easily offended by displays of grandeur
swift compass
I see, I guess I’ll post my simple cars then
Will just post videos or pics of me driving a trx off road or something
faint wadi
Sure, if that's what you want to do. If anyone gives you a hard time let me or another mod know.
swift compass
Alright, didn’t mean to offend anyone
Sorry
timid moth
faint wadi
I... I really hate that this is a benchmark for graphics. How old is the Xbox One?
WAIT 2013?!?! jfc I feel old now if the xbone is almost retro
trim nacelle
It old ye
faint wadi
trim nacelle
But we talked about this
Frost appears to be using that anti aliasing setting again
💀
limpid horizon
I refuse to call anything newer than n64 retro cause at that point i'm admitting my age.
stark radish
anything that was originally designed around the CRT is retro
limpid horizon
pearl pollen
How is it? What’s your opinion so far?
timid moth
How is it? What’s your opinion so far?
its definitely a mixed bag for me, like there are some good stuff about the game but in its current state I can't really recommend it until most of the issues are ironed out
Issues like:
-Poor Optimization (Widely talked about from various pc configs - even high end)
-Server instability (Sometimes the servers would just not work and races too - sucks that this game is following the online only model - many people faced login issues but with a recent patch they are slowly getting in)
-Lack of proper visual technologies (Xess, New FSR, Proper DLSS, working framegen)
-Few visual bugs
-Missing core TDU features like houses, unique speedometers for each vehicle, casinos, etc
-Customization is limited but that's not too much of an issue for me
-Steering wheel animation is not great
-Region locked
Now for the good stuff
-Cars sound really good
-Physics are fine and cars actually react to the environment
-Environment detail is really good and map is large for a racing game (not as big as the previous tdu titles though)
-Somewhat proper progression
-Exploration is actually enjoyable
-Lobby can go up to 32 people (but i haven't experienced that yet)
-Offroad regions
Overall the game is fun when it works, and I really hope that this game at launch actually makes a name for itself. Mind you that I'm playing a demo build and they claimed that it is an early one, the question is how early???
Anyways if you have a capable rig to play this then you're fine. If they can iron out most of the issues I said here then the game will turn out great (even if I don't like live services). It has potential!
pearl pollen
Hmmm probably best review I’ve seen of it so far, thank ya sir
I’ll put it on the list as a “definite maybe”
timid moth
I’ll put it on the list as a “definite maybe”
this is actually the first time i went deep with a review XD
faint wadi
Typically by the time a beta test launches they already have a couple new builds lined up, and if the devs are smart they'll tell players to focus on specific features they've had issues with.
timid moth
true, they really should've called this an open beta playtest instead of naming it as a "demo" on both their steam page and social media
atleast doing so will cut the unnecessary negative responses
faint wadi
Demo implies that the game is done and this is a "demonstration" of what you can expect the full game to look like so I can see why there would be confusion
sacred basalt
Steam Next Fest is highlighting upcoming games, so the games the demos are for often aren't quite complete
timid moth
neon phoenix
Need
trim nacelle
For shpeehd
flat zephyr
coolest looking car on the planet imo
just need to get 20mil to buy one!
good thing they totally made more than like 10
faint wadi
just need to get 20mil to buy one!
Not just that but you also need to be personally investigated and approved by the company before they ever let you pick a car, then you have to sign away all of your rights including your right to resell or modify the car.
flat zephyr
Not just that but you also need to be personally investigated and approved by th...
the whole investiigated thing has never made sense to me
why is my money not good enough for you
faint wadi
Because they have an image to protect and they can't have you driving nobodies around in their cars, you have to associate with "the right" people
trim nacelle
It's a concept
But in principle yes
Veneno lasted 5 minutes on me before I was over it lol
It's so clean tho
pearl pollen
Literally
faint wadi
😑
gloomy valve
oblique portal
Looks cool but weird at the same time
faint wadi
GT3 >
faint wadi
At least we can agree that 4, 5, 6, and sport, all sucked by comparison
trim nacelle
Eh
4 was great wtf
If 3 was great 4 was better
But the others...meh
1 and 2 are my bae tho
gloomy valve
At least we can agree that 4, 5, 6, and sport, all sucked by comparison
4 is the holy grail bruh
faint wadi
4 never worked right on my PS2, it kept crashing (the game not the cars)
swift compass
https://youtube.com/shorts/t4hThRszv8M?si=GPX3PGeapGDWjdTj
🤣
timid moth
balmy egret
Man Ferrari won Le Mans this year :(
timid moth
Man Ferrari won Le Mans this year :(
That's cringe
faint wadi
They wanted to prove a point but I think they would have benefitted more from selling the cars outside the country for millions of dollars, which goes a VERY long way in that country, than from proving a point to street racers.
neon phoenix
They wanted to prove a point but I think they would have benefitted more from se...
exactly
truly a waste
stark radish
They wanted to prove a point but I think they would have benefitted more from se...
nah i kinda like this approach
make them hurt a little inside
gloomy valve
They wanted to prove a point but I think they would have benefitted more from se...
Seems like its more of cheating taxes rather than that, but I dont really like it because they already did it in the past, yet it still happens
timid estuary
make them hurt a little inside
It also makes everyone else hurt a little inside
trim nacelle
even better
Nice snow plow there bud
timid moth
Nice snow plow there bud
can get it done at 227mph 💪
mighty gulch
Most efficient snow plower in history
balmy egret
Would be more efficient if it was AWD
trim nacelle
neon phoenix
👀
mighty gulch
Unless they're not kidding...
neon phoenix
heheh
celest prawn
Currently working on my 05 Acura TSX, just put new after market headlight on my car, and just installed some new J10 Enkei rims the other day. Currently gonna buy a new front bumper to replace the current one as it’s broken 😕 but after that I’m gonna buy a lip kit, and I’m gonna respray it to make it look new again!
Hopefully after the lip kit and respray I’ll slap a turbo kit into it
flat zephyr
aftermarket headlights add alot to the look of a car for sure
i wanna get these taillights for my fusion lol they look so good
sterile geyser
That’s a C7 sir
sterile geyser
gloomy valve
That’s a C7 sir
sterile geyser
I realized you’re talking about the game 😭
ember sentinel
Hopefully after the lip kit and respray I’ll slap a turbo kit into it
What's the engine management like on those?
trim nacelle
Hindsight is always 20/20
Today I learned 80's nissans came with a suite of features that to this day are luxury car features
balmy egret
Nah take that negative camber off
sterile geyser
What’s up?
balmy egret
Would look A LOT better without the front negative camber
Makes it look like as if a 16 y/o had access to money 💀
celest prawn
What's the engine management like on those?
It’s pretty good
Mostly everything is easily accessible
And it’s a K24 so you can upgrade it fairly easily
celest prawn
i wanna get these taillights for my fusion lol they look so good
I say do it
balmy egret
I need to get rid of my car
celest prawn
I was gonna buy some after market taillights too, but I really love the oem stock ones so much
celest prawn
I need to get rid of my car
What u got
balmy egret
What u got
automatic Ford Focus Titanium 😭
"Automatic isn't that bad" yeah but this one is
balmy egret
Just lookup "Ford Focus transmission" and it'll explain it for you
celest prawn
I have a automatic too
celest prawn
Just lookup "Ford Focus transmission" and it'll explain it for you
I will do that en
Rn
Recall?
balmy egret
I want either a GTI (decision on the transmission doesn't matter to me) or a Focus ST (only comes in manual)
celest prawn
Recall is insane
celest prawn
Jeez
balmy egret
Shuddering, TCM failure, the clutch forks fail a lot. Thankfully, I haven't come across these issues yet (knock on wood)
celest prawn
Apparently the manual version of the TSX is more reliable and is the best version of my car, but idk how to drive manual 😞
celest prawn
Shuddering, TCM failure, the clutch forks fail a lot. Thankfully, I haven't come...
Holy crap
balmy egret
Has it failed? 💀
celest prawn
Let’s see
balmy egret
I mean I guess it's older lol
celest prawn
Hm
One time all the electronics turned off on me for half a second at a intersection
balmy egret
bruh 💀
celest prawn
Which meant my power steering shut off while the car was still running
I had no power steering
😭
Until I shut off my car and turned it back on
balmy egret
No way that was due to the transmission though lol
celest prawn
It wasn’t
balmy egret
Alternator moment
balmy egret
lmaooo what 💀
celest prawn
im pretty sure its cause my battery like disconnected for a second
I had my battery held down with a bungee cord
It’s ok I then got a proper mount for it
balmy egret
lmaooo
balmy egret
I thought I was having bad shuddering issues on my Focus. I took it into a local shop (we trust him a lot lol) and he said that the car had a weak startup and the battery had a low voltage
So we replaced the battery and it resolved a lot of the shuddering (not all, but a lot)
I might see if I can get it manual swapped if I have enough saved by the time the transmission dies
But who knows, apparently my washer fluid sensor has gone bad before anything else during my ownership 💀 I filled that tank up with water and now I get a warning telling me to fill the washer fluid 💀
flat zephyr
automatic Ford Focus Titanium 😭
i want to get a 2017+ fusion sport ngl
timid moth
balmy egret
i want to get a 2017+ fusion sport ngl
I've seen those. I want one so bad lol
I know it's just a Fusion, but it makes like 325 horsepower and you can get them for around the same price as a Focus ST, only you're missing out on it being a hatchback
(I need my car to be a hatchback though lol)
flat zephyr
I know it's just a Fusion, but it makes like 325 horsepower and you can get them...
Sport is a v6 325 hp, turboed from factory I believe
Sleeper for sure
Problem is I can’t find one for sale in my area anywhere lol
timid moth
timid moth
dang it
sterile geyser
Would look A LOT better without the front negative camber
Drift Camaro mf
I’ll find the normal one later
balmy egret
Just looks weird on a Camero lol
timid moth
most normal lambo
balmy egret
most normal lambo
Still gets gapped by a Civic with a laptop
timid moth
Still gets gapped by a Civic with a laptop
real
sterile geyser
most normal lambo
Still can’t figure out how to add mods to AC
timid moth
Still can’t figure out how to add mods to AC
There are tons of tutorials to get you started!
All it needs is a "content manager"
balmy egret
(A couple weeks ago)
Alpine on Twitter: We will be removing Esteban Ocon from Alpine
Red Bull on Twitter, right at the same time of Alpine's announcement: EVERYONE, WE HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT
trim nacelle
Doesn't he have like the worst chemistry with Verstappen on the planet
balmy egret
I think so lol
balmy egret
New vroom vroom
They look so funny without the wing
mighty gulch
It does lol
gloomy valve
They look so funny without the wing
The va does but the vb looks even worse when people put the sti wing on there
remote salmon
The VB has to have other cosmetic mods to go with the STI wing imo
I’m probably just going to put a duckbill spoiler on instead of a big wing at least for now
Or duck tail, however you want to call it
timid moth
VIPER
storm hemlock
neon phoenix
Love it
timid moth
Built for drag btw
mighty gulch
I think it needs a huge spoiler-
timid moth
nfs unbound?
NFS payback
wind halo
Alr
trim nacelle
Assetto>>>>>
OG NFSMW >> Assetto
remote salmon
CAR >> OG NFSMW
remote salmon
remote salmon
He just like me
trim nacelle
Fr
trim nacelle
My feet gotta get checked out
Are you looking for a licking???
timid moth
Well when you mod it
remote salmon
Are you looking for a licking???
Only for you
trim nacelle
Only for you
Sorry I'm actually just a barber service
remote salmon
That works
trim nacelle
Which parts need trimming??
remote salmon
You choose
remote salmon
Nothing but head
remote salmon
😘
trim nacelle
That'll be $30 for a basic head cut
trim nacelle
We're booked out until Thursday
remote salmon
I’m sure you can squeeze me in
remote salmon
Oh I know
trim nacelle
You'll have to wait until Thursday
remote salmon
trim nacelle
remote salmon
…I’m not going to go there
trim nacelle
remote salmon
I would probably get banned 
remote salmon
Yeah 5 minutes is too long
trim nacelle
Can't control it
remote salmon
1 brain cell shared between the two of us
trim nacelle
💀
gloomy valve
Assetto>>>>>
ac isnt real, its just a bunch of mods that you throw together and hope it works
balmy egret
ac isnt real, its just a bunch of mods that you throw together and hope it works
AC isn't real
It's a game that has existed for more than a decade
it's just a bunch of mods that you throw together and hope it works
Literally all heavily modded games
balmy egret
"Assetto Corsa isn't real"
Assetto Corsa:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/244210/Assetto_Corsa/
For $2 you can't beat that lol
last sluice
trim nacelle
Just hold that Bic lighter underneath the can
We live in the future, why do we gotta WORK for our food???
faint wadi
Said like a true non american. We can buy literally anything out of a ready to eat package. There's almost no nutritional value to it but it's cheap af.
timid moth
timid moth
gloomy valve
this is just wild. if you ignore the rest of the car and focus on the middle, you will see the f1 silhouette at the front, sides and rear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9KojzyYkqs
also the weight of the car basically triples at 100mph because of all the aero
oblique portal
What do u do for a living
swift compass
I own a exotic car rental
A metal architect company
Crypto
timid moth
nice
oblique portal
How do y’all turn your steering wheel out of curiosity?
faint wadi
Depends on the turn. If it's a short turn, then I'll slide one hand at a time. Sharper and longer turns, hand over hand.
mighty gulch
Mix of hand over hand and just the one hand spin
rain crater
i cross my arms over each other
never take ur hands off the wheel
timid moth
i cross my arms over each other
never take ur hands off the wheel
In todays episode on "HOW NOT 2 DRIVE":
balmy egret
How do y’all turn your steering wheel out of curiosity?
When casually driving, however is comfy. When speeding or just general rough roads (I live in Houston), hands on 9 and 3
You look old and goofy if you do 10 and 2
solid cobalt
We have a enitre channel for cars now?
timid moth
Yessir
remote salmon
9 and 3 all day, every day
limpid horizon
12 and lap 
mighty gulch
turn left simulator
timid moth
gloomy valve
I barely even taste it but it depends on what you eat i guess
timid estuary
I drive with my hands at 7 and 5, get on my level
rain crater
https://tenor.com/view/jeremy-clarkson-top-gear-the-grand-tour-tomato-sandwich-g...
i have this problem whenever there's bacon
timid moth
i have this problem whenever there's bacon
your tomatoes don't like bacon
balmy egret
gloomy valve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiQLLWiWJBU
It threw me off when I heard this car for the first time
Like my facial expression changed
Even though I saw rotary in the name
My brain tossed that word away and still thought v8 even though the title says rotary
Speaking of mclaren
game vs real
oblique portal
looks like a spaceship
gloomy valve
Yeah it is based off of what is essentially an ingame concept car program called vision gran turismo
In the game its just called the mclaren vgt
Most notable example of this is the chiron sharing some design language from the bugatti vgt and probably the new supra sharing design language from the ft1, both of which came out a long time ago
balmy egret
Annnnnd my car go kapoot 🙃
No ABS and throws a bunch of warnings. Pretty sure it's either a blown fuse or a faulty cable
south yew
Could also be a wheel speed sensor. Happened to me recently. Caused ABS, TC light and even a check engine light for a bit
balmy egret
I read that too. But I don't have a check engine light
south yew
It doesn't always do a check engine light tho
balmy egret
I have yet to check the speedometer when driving it around with these issues
ember sentinel
Take it to someone with a scan tool
balmy egret
I get U0121(00) codes
south yew
Mine came on because electric power steering was affected by the ABS not working, it was a cascade of crap for just a little thing lol
Oh, that's not a speed sensor, U are communication codes
Canbus communication errors or loss of comm
Could be a fuse or some green crusties in a wire or connector
balmy egret
Yeah so I'm thinking it's either a blown fuse (hopefully because that's an easy fix) or a torn/broken cable
Loss of connection is somewhere (at least that's what I'm thinking)
south yew
ON the right track there. Does the ABS mnodule show up in the scan tool?
If so, not a fuse but a cable issue between other modules, etc.
balmy egret
There's several "U0121(00)" codes that mention the ABS
One of them:
U0121(00) [0xC12100] Data bus, anti-lock brake system (ABS) control module - no communication Status: Test failed, Test failed (current drive cycle), Pending, Confirmed, Test failed since last DTC clear, Warning indicator requested
south yew
So probs mean other modules can't see the ABS module
Can you communicate with the ABS module in the scanner and read codes from it? If not, defo dead module
balmy egret
I'm not sure. I can't go downstairs to my car rn either (I'm in my gf's apartment. Long story short, she has the elevator and she took it with her while meeting with friends at the movies. I don't have an elevator key lol)
south yew
oh haha! Sometimes elevators suck
Just a quick check for you then. This isn't a Hyundai is it?
balmy egret
I have a saved report. I'll narrow it down from the other codes so it's just the ABS module (I'm sure that's the issue)
nah it's a Ford. The American Hyundai
south yew
Ok, good. They currently have an ABS recall out with no resolution for brake fluid leaking onto the board and causing a short
south yew
If the fuse does turn out to be blown, be sure to pull the module connector and check for corrosion.
balmy egret
I just told Claude to organize the list so hopefully it looks good lol
balmy egret
If the fuse does turn out to be blown, be sure to pull the module connector and ...
Gotcha. Thanks
south yew
YW
balmy egret
@south yew I wouldn't mind driving it without ABS, but I think it forces the parking brake to be engaged. I have to drive ~130 miles back home and it's expensive to tow it otherwise. Is there a way I could force the parking brake to disengage? Like is that even a thing?
south yew
It shouldn't force the parking brake to engage?
balmy egret
Yes
I mean I get the parking brake light and the vehicle doesn't coast when it's in Drive
south yew
What year is this focus? Almost sounds like your rear brakes are stuck
balmy egret
2014
south yew
If you have a mechanical cable for the rear brakes, they shouldn't be able to be applied electronically
There's no way for that to happen. Another possibility is that the ABS module shorted out and is applying pressure to them
balmy egret
It's weird because I can put my car in Drive, let my foot off the brake, and the vehicle doesn't coast
Steering also feels weird too (feels generally stiffer)
south yew
Is this a Focus ST?
balmy egret
Focus Titanium (basically a Focus SE)
south yew
Gotcha
I'd wholly unplug the ABS module and see if the brakes unstick
if you can get to it
balmy egret
Yeah I'd have to look and see where it is
I hope I don't have to take apart a bunch of stuff lol
south yew
I'm looking
Lovely, module is discontinued.
According to what I'm seeing, it's on the drivers side next to the Vacuum chamber for the brakes
Should be a black circle, 6 brake lines and a large connector
Could also be the ABS code disabling your power steering
I don't know how similar yours is to a 2010 but on those it's behind the battery on the firewall.
Yeah, finally found a video, it's going to be under the battery :/ If you get to it, see if it's wet with brake fluid. Seems to be a common failure on those cars
balmy egret
I'll check if it's there but the 2010s are Mk2 Foci while my is a 2014 (Mk3 Focus)
lmaooo the first Google entry for "Chris Fix" is "Chris Fix brakes". perfect 💀
south yew
I found a video for the 2012+ Focus, it's behind the battery on the firewall
You MIGHT be able to reach the connector by removing the intake boot though
However, there are a lot of failures with those modules and them leaking or becoming corroded
balmy egret
Can you send the video please?
south yew
Lemme find it again, brb
balmy egret
Thanks
south yew
So, this is just for the fuse but if you watch the video the module is under the battery up against the firewall
balmy egret
Yeah the battery in this car (the model in general) corrodes a lot
south yew
I paused the vid at a few spots
You should be able to see the module if you grab a light and shine it under the battery from the side
balmy egret
Basically what I have lol
(that's not my cluster, but it's from a video with related issues)
south yew
Yeah and with the brakes being locked up, I'd say module is kaput
south yew
I mean, it's also possible the rear pads are just stuck to the drums, back up a few feet then forward and see if they release. The Focus is also notorious for the E-brake lever on the caliper sticking
But with the ABS not having comms, I'd hesitantly say the module needs replaced.
balmy egret
Kinda what I'm thinking
My parents are coming to visit tomorrow so they can help
I'm like 2 hours away from home rn and they got a hotel for tonight to come visit tomorrow lol
south yew
Unplugging the module completely may relieve the pressure if the board shorted and is trying to run the motor
balmy egret
And then it shouldn't be too much more difficult to drive if that's the case, right?
Like I basically just won't have ABS and TC?
south yew
It's possible power steering will remain disabled
balmy egret
Yikes. Never driven without power steering lol
south yew
IDK exactly how that system works. Is it electronic PS or power steering pump like old school?
south yew
OH, that'll probably be disabled then
south yew
It still shouldn't be too tough though
balmy egret
2-hour drive back home with no PS lmao
yeah I mean when I'm moving it should be fine
south yew
Yup
balmy egret
Is there an easier alternative to taking out the whole ABS unit? Like just unplugging it? Perhaps even just removing the two fuses that it uses?
south yew
Fuses might work, not sure where all the power comes from though
balmy egret
yikes okay
south yew
If there's a relay yank that, that would be for the motor
balmy egret
Gotcha
south yew
Pump motor
balmy egret
If there's a relay yank that, that would be for the motor
and that's basically just power going from the alternator to the ABS module, right?
Maybe I'm wrong lol
south yew
Battery to ABS module
balmy egret
Okay that makes sense
south yew
Technically the BCM to the ABS module, Battery feeds BCM as does the alternator
Or whatever Ford calls the fusebox. Everyone has a different name for it
balmy egret
Shows up as BCM in the scan lol
south yew
There ya go HAHA. SOme manu's call it weird stuff. TIPM is Chrysler
balmy egret
Bruh like what is that 💀
south yew
Hell if I know, all I know is it's the fusebox 😂
balmy egret
Yeah I just call it the fusebox. Universal code lol
south yew
Ah, Totally Integrated Power Module
balmy egret
bruh 💀
south yew
Very good name, totally good
balmy egret
I'm reading from a forum that some kid tried to take out his F7 fuse (40A, Anti-lock brake system/Electronic stability program pump) and it disabled his ABS, TC, whatever else (including a 4x4 system? Which is weird because Foci are FWD)
Man imma start practicing without ABS when sim racing now. Feels important to get a feel for when in situations like this lol
balmy egret
I'm reading from a forum that some kid tried to take out his F7 fuse (40A, Anti-...
It might actually be a Mk3 Focus RS, which are AWD
south yew
Fun thing, if you've never felt your brake pedal pulsate under your foot, you've never activated ABS. Most people will never even activate it
No labels under the fusebox lid? Have an owners manual?
balmy egret
Nah I know which ones are for the ABS lol. F7 and F19 in the engine bay
balmy egret
Fun thing, if you've never felt your brake pedal pulsate under your foot, you've...
Yeah I've recently been in scenarios (maybe like two within the past couple of weeks) when I had to slam on my brakes and the brake pedal felt a little weird
balmy egret
I remember one scenario a couple weeks ago. Traffic in my lane suddenly came to a near-stop and I had to slam on my brakes. I heard my tires screech and idk how to describe it but the brake pedal felt like it went further than normal. Kinda felt weird lol
Idk if that's what it feels like when it activates though. And yeah it's weird that my tires even screeched in the first place (but I mean I REALLY) had to slam my brakes
balmy egret
yeah "sinking" is a better word for it
Might be off-topic but lowkey might get a better sim racing wheel after this goofy situation just to practice no ABS (I'm stuck on a 2Nm wheel lol. Feels weak after I went karting for my birthday recently)
south yew
FInd a backroad, pull your ABS fuses and see what it's like LOL
south yew
I always practiced that kind of stuff in the snow in themiddle of nowhere
balmy egret
My area is too suburban. I'd have to go a bit further out of my city lol
I bet I could find a place though
south yew
I've always lived in BFE
balmy egret
lmao Bum F* Egypt?
south yew
Yup
balmy egret
lolll
south yew
I'm old, therefor use old werds
balmy egret
lol yeah I'm an early Gen Z
balmy egret
Nah I like my half of my generation lol
south yew
I honestly don't really care, either you're a good person or you're not
south yew
Gen Z ain't bad, there's a still a few willing to listen and learn. Err one forgets they were that age once upon a time and knew everything
balmy egret
Yeah that's me
south yew
Naw, you ain't arguing with me about what's wrong with your car, you're listening and having a conversation
balmy egret
I like to think I'm a rarer Gen Z because I helped my gf with breaker issues and also fixed a couple of plumbing issues (she just moved into this apartment and it's already having issues)
Basically stuff that normal younger people don't know how to fix
south yew
Because they weren't taught, because both parents working full time to support them and/or parents not owning a home and having to DIY things themselves
Urban living is an entirely different lifestyle to BFE
balmy egret
That makes sense. My parents are both Gen Z. The house they raised me in was like $99K (bought in the late 1990s, sold for ~$215K in 2016)
So that makes sense 💀
Also, that's the unit we use: living affordability
balmy egret
I'd lose it if that were my situation lol
I need my home lab. I use Tailscale so I can mess with it when I'm at work or at my gf's apartment
Most kids need a Steam Deck or a Switch. Nah as long as I have a computer in front of me, I'll just slap Tailscale on that so I can connect to my home lab lollll
south yew
I just need information. Book, phone, PC, whatever. Or my fishing pole and a lake or river
But anyway, yard the fuses and see what happens. Also try reverse and forward a bit to see if the rear drums are stuck. If after pulling the fuses it still feels like brakes, there's videos on how to lube the E-brake mechanism on the rear calipers
balmy egret
I'm just hoping that the worst case is that I have to drive home without ABS and TC (and I guess power steering)
south yew
Yeah, electric power steering is really nice until you run into an ABS issue
Company car is a Hyundai with EPS, driving without it was honestly just fine.
When I had my issues
balmy egret
Yeah I bet it's fine given that it's probably FWD
I might be in luck in that case lol
south yew
Yup
Also know too that you can separate the ABS valve body from the electronics part and just replace the electronics part. Cheaper that way
Can do it without removing brake lines but will need a scan tool to reactivate and calibrate the module
balmy egret
Also, a torn cable to the ABS unit or something related to it wouldn't be the issue, right? I'm thinking that because the whole car would have those issues immediately upon turning on the car, rather than driving around my gf's parking garage and then it suddenly has those issues after driving it for a bit
south yew
It's possible. Where it's located back behind the battery and things might be a good place for rodents to hang out
balmy egret
wait hold on
ya know
that might make sense because there's a lot of squirrels where I live
But I mean the car feels fine until it throws those errors after driving it for like five minutes
south yew
Bro, I kid you not, I've killed 3 squirrels and 4 chipmunks this year getting under the hood of my cars
Yeah, ABS stuff takes some time to show up
It's generally not quick.
balmy egret
Interesting
south yew
Yeah, if you've got squirrels, have a look for some nibbling
balmy egret
Crazy too because I took this whole trip, no issues, and then I suddenly make the last turn before getting to my gf's apartment when everything lit up
balmy egret
Yeah, if you've got squirrels, have a look for some nibbling
Will do if we can get to it
south yew
both my car and my wifes car had the cabin air filter destroyed
had to remove the fans in both and remove the offending crap in the fans
Looks like you've got some work ahead of you lol. I have a feeling once you remove the battery you'll know.
balmy egret
We're going to check the F7 fuse and see if that's the issue. If not, I'm going to pray that keeping that fuse out means that we don't have to entirely unplug the whole ABS module for all of the other lights and show up
south yew
You said F7 and F19, whichever fuse is bigger pull that one. It'd be for the pump motor
balmy egret
Yeah that would be the F7 fuse
Using this if you want context:
https://www.startmycar.com/us/ford/focus/info/fusebox/2014
south yew
OH dood, that's really cool
Yeah, check F19 also because that's for the brains, if it's blown that will tell a lot. Either chewed wire or bad module
balmy egret
never heard of "disabling all the nannies" until today. Idk if that would help and idk how to do it on my car lol
south yew
ABS, TC, Power Steering, those are "nannies"
balmy egret
never heard it described as that lol
south yew
Things that keep you from doing exactly what you want when you want
It's a boomer thing 😂
balmy egret
lolll
south yew
From back before we had all that crap and lane departure assist and all the other crap
balmy egret
I think I've seen videos of disabling stuff like that. There's like "TCS off" but you're supposed to press and hold it and press another button (or something goofy) and that'll truly turn it off
south yew
Yeah, my truck has TC off but no vehicle has ABS off since it's federally mandated
along with things like airbags, etc
balmy egret
Man so I'm about to drive around illegally at the worst case lmao
south yew
No, it's federally mandated for production. Can't manufacture a car that doesn't have it. What you do doesn't matter
balmy egret
oh gotcha
south yew
Also mandated they can't put a switch in to disable
south yew
Pretty much lol
balmy egret
Praying this works lmao
faint wadi
No, it's federally mandated for production. Can't manufacture a car that doesn'...
There are plenty of modifications you can do that will make it street illegal. California is terrible about things like that. It can't be too loud, or too tinted, no underglow, front lights have to be white or yellow, etc.
balmy egret
In California, you're not allowed to own your car
lol
Heaven forbid somebody wraps their car pink or something
south yew
There are plenty of modifications you can do that will make it street illegal. C...
These are rules across most of the states, believe it or not. Particularly the loud, underglow, front lights thing.
faint wadi
Don't forget about the catalytic converter
You can have a cat that's legal in 48 or 49 states, but not Cali
No you need to pay quadruple the price for a Cali cat
south yew
True. Can't modify ECu software either, they'll scan for it and yank the plates if they find it during emissions testing
faint wadi
Which is also the reason why there's a huge black market for them and they keep getting stolen
Yep if you tuned your ECU you need to save your settings and factory reset before smog test
balmy egret
Hell cat
timid moth
My goodness the car nerd convo is massive XD
I wish I was this knowledgeable with cars
south yew
Helping motor diagnose an issue
timid moth
Ah
south yew
Been turning wrenches for 30 years now 
If you want some real fun, I'm rebuilding a dual fuel pump assembly on a boat today
south yew
Stupid boat morons PAINTED THE FUEL FILTER/PUMP ASSUMBLY INTERNALLY
This is where the fuel filter screws to, you can imagine what all that flaking paint does..........
Paint went through the pumps all the way to the fuel pressure regulator, gotta flush the system, strip paint and rebuild with new pumps
timid moth
Sounds like a hassle fr
south yew
Pain in the hoosky
timid moth
Lol
mighty gulch
Ah yes let me paint inside of my fuel pump
Its going to filter out all the bits of paint fr
Don't even worry about it
oblique portal
this is the equivalent of an rgb psu but worse
balmy egret
@south yew fuses looked fine (we replaced them anyways). We're now thinking that it's the battery current sensor that connects to the negative terminal
These care are notorious for corrosion (I think specifically on the negative terminal too) and we're thinking that current sensor cable being eaten by corrosion is the issue
But here's the thing: I’m in Austin and live in Houston. I could choose to take the car to this local place that’s like not even a three-minute drive, or I can have my stepfather come up here and tow it
And of course he's going to pick the option of taking it to this nearby mechanic, which is the easier route lolll. But I don't want to do any damage to the car given that the brakes are applied
Also, I’m thinking the brakes being applied is due to the "Hill Start Assist not available" issue (this "Hill Start Assist" is basically just a brake that’s applied until the clutch is engaged for when starting on hills, so you don't roll back)
A lot of yapping. Sorry lol
Video in case you're curious
south yew
And of course he's going to pick the option of taking it to this nearby mechanic...
Hill start assist is done by the ABS module as well. All signs are pointing there.
balmy egret
Hill start assist is done by the ABS module as well. All signs are pointing the...
Gotcha. Still probably going to have that cable replaced because it's been eaten up by corrosion
south yew
Ya, the battery current sensor is just for the alternator, as far as I know. It uses that to determine how much to charge
remote salmon
It’s so crazy how some people are incompetent, I’ve seen entire engine blocks painted down to every single square cm
south yew
Oh this wasn't just a person. This was a manufacturing company that elected to paint parts that would touch fuel
remote salmon
Thats insane
south yew
Ya, Carter manufactured them for years that way before switching to Anodizing
It's silly
balmy egret
Ya, the battery current sensor is just for the alternator, as far as I know. It...
Which is weird because we fully unplugged it and all of the lights came on in the dash
My car just built different I guess
My stepfather tried to put it onto a trailer yesterday but it kept beach at the middle of the car (at the edge of the trailer). So we decided to take it to a place down the road. Hopefully I won't be here for too much longer because I’m practically living with my gf and idk how much she likes my living habits 😅 (I hate to use stereotypes, but let's just say that she's Asian but I love my electricity)
south yew
what were the codes with the lights on?
That's weird, you gotta bad ground somewhere and it was using the current sensor as a ground?
balmy egret
The original lights (with ABS issues), U0121(00)
But without the BCS cable, all lights came on but we didn't bother to scan for codes. I’m assuming it would've thrown absolutely every code possible lollll (or maybe just a bunch of U codes)
balmy egret
That's weird, you gotta bad ground somewhere and it was using the current sensor...
Nah, the negative terminal is basically the ground, which that terminal cable goes from the neg term on the battery onto the body of the car (so, neg term to ground basically)
And then there's another cable that comes off of the negative terminal. That's the BCS (battery current sensor) cable and I think (could be wrong) it connects to the fuse box (again, I could be way off about that because we couldn't see but I've vaguely read that that’s where it connects to)
south yew
You shouldn't get christmas tree lights just from disconnected the BMS tho
mighty gulch
Maybe something wrong with the computer
south yew
Neg battery terminal goes under the airbox, wonder if it's loose or corroded.
Well, maybe one to the strut tower and one under the airbox
balmy egret
I think the neg term cable is up and behind the fuse box and positive is between the battery and the air box
balmy egret
Honestly just hoping that a squirrel or something chewed the cable up. But that's unlikely if I came all the way from Houston to Austin, only for it to happen after I come back from grabbing dinner (in Austin)
mighty gulch
Tasty electricity
mighty gulch
That's how they recharge
Just like how you need to throw car batteries into the ocean to charge the electric eels
gloomy valve
balmy egret
@trim nacelle can we un-stupid for a second? Idk if you actually own a Golf, but if you do, what trim and year is it? (I think you said it's a GTI). What's the reliability/maintenance like? Would I have to constantly get it maintained?
Car issues aren't fun and now I'm considering selling my car after this craziness lol
trim nacelle
<@101107951401455616> can we un-stupid for a second? Idk if you actually own a G...
I've driven and sat in basically all generations
Maintenance is easy if you don't thrash it, tires are like, not terrible to replace if you aren't getting an R/32
If you are, expensive
Yearly maintenance is fine if you keep it with VW or a trusted mechanic
The one thing I'd worry about...
Probably, the only real thing
Electrics
If you have one with cameras and sensors, those things are expensive af to fix out of warranty
A perpetual warranty is genuinely worth it in that case imo
balmy egret
It'll probably GTI. Unless I buy it from some idiot who doesn't know what he has lol (highly unlikely but you never know)
trim nacelle
As for the cheaper end, you wouldn't have as much trouble, but I would say in general
And this is for all VW
All audi, skoda etc
Be careful after 5 years
That's when the electrics start to go
If you take care of it, it'll be nice to you basically
It's good at being just a solid german car
But if you thrash it, you'll be paying more for parts and service very quick
Esp. on the R trim, those tires are not cheap
balmy egret
I get that a lot of people say this is a reliable car, but what about buying beyond 100K miles (160K km)? How far would you say in mileage is okay? Just trying to see how I can stretch my budget
trim nacelle
They tend to use continentals or p-zeros
And p-zeros are expensive AF
That's the kind of tire trim you see on like, supercars
Lamborghinis, Ferraris
I think some Audi?
A lot of german brands opt for continental too
trim nacelle
I get that a lot of people say this is a reliable car, but what about buying bey...
It's really a case by case thing
balmy egret
Thought so lol
trim nacelle
Shop by service history, state of the car in person
Probe for things like work done
Or previous accidents
Those are red flags
The more vanilla it is, the better
balmy egret
I feel like they can easily hit 200K miles, from what people say
trim nacelle
Yes
German cars can really last if you service them properly
Let them weather and they will start to fall apart
balmy egret
That’s what I'm worried about lol. I want a fun car but I don't want to have to spend on German maintenance (like the average BMW)
But I feel that’s normal
trim nacelle
Don't shop German if you don't want to look at an elevated service
You're not gonna pay ultra premium for a GTI, but you won't pay a basic price either
Imo a golf is just a nice ass car
VW in general, they have the art pat down pretty well nowadays
balmy egret
Gotcha. So it's like the average of a BMW and a Honda basically, right? (In terms of maintenance)
trim nacelle
Go back 20 years I wouldn't say they were as great
trim nacelle
Gotcha. So it's like the average of a BMW and a Honda basically, right? (In term...
Kinda? Depending how well you treat it could lean towards the honda more
Depends on the age and mechanic
You may as well ask the sellers this question to a few of them
You should get a rough range
I'd expect somewhere bouncing between the 600 usd mark up to maybe 900 for a big one
Not incl. extras like tires or rotors etc
Between, what is it your focus?
And a Golf
I would lean towards the golf
I've met a lot of focus owners, sudden repair or cost is quite common
If you went looking at an R and you got one with thin profile sport tires, a set of those would be something like, 1200 usd 💀
Fair warning, GTI would be better in this if you don't want to be scared of part prices
Or go down from even a GTI to something like an R line
Not R, R line
All the bells of the best but you don't get the engine (Whistles)
balmy egret
Fair warning, GTI would be better in this if you don't want to be scared of part...
Yeah that's part of my reasoning lolll
trim nacelle
Once you go to the really flashy stuff it adds up really fast
Like the cameras in these cars are in some cases 5K+
balmy egret
I just want a faster car that's fun but also more reliable (I have a friend who knows some people who can get this car to 300 hp, which is pretty much all I want tbh)
trim nacelle
Like the cameras in these cars are in some cases 5K+
Which is why I'm saying the extended warranty is worth
300 in a new VW isn't too hard to do
Even some of their mid-range stuff goes a bit north of 200
Do some ECU work, improve intake and maybe intercooler, slightly bigger turbo and a muffler kit, it probably will do that much
I'm not all big on the intermediates between that but it depends on what they build the drivetrain for the mid-range for
I'm not really sure if you can find a cheap car that isn't a buzzbomb entailing cheap maintenance costs for 300hp imo
Unless we go back to that weird convo yesterday
A camry?
💀
trim nacelle
You pay for a premium experience, you will pay for a premium upkeep if you ask me
balmy egret
Kinda considered it until I saw that it would be like $20K for a V6 Camry
trim nacelle
20K is not bad for a car
The car of all time
It's really plain but it's probably also the most realistic you could be for 300hp
Maybe an old civic?
Hard to say, I haven't been much of a car nut for a VERY long time now
balmy egret
This might be a longshot but I also see a 2010 that's near me for $9,950 that has only 66K miles on it
trim nacelle
Camry?
balmy egret
GTI
balmy egret
Yeah kinda thought so lolll
trim nacelle
May have lived a sheltered life, or had an accident, or was in a flood or natural disaster
You won't know
Those sorts of cars are interesting imo, but also you need to factor in an inspection
balmy egret
Says 0 accidents reported on CarGurus
trim nacelle
I'd still get it inspected
Reported doesn't mean it never happened
Inspections you get someone who combs a car with a special light
iirc it's uv?
And they look for imperfections
Things you wouldn't see but are signs of panel beating or painting over damage
Where the paint may be unusually thick in some spots
The other annoying thing is test driving to test all the electrics
As important as the normal stuff in the damn car tbh
gloomy valve
I think about the 2.0t accord from time to time
balmy egret
electronics are what I'm dealing with on my Focus rn
trim nacelle
Something goes and you could be looking at several grand for a $100 part cos it takes 15 hours of labor
They don't make it easy to fix the kit on a VW
Lol
Same for most cars really, cheap as they can manufacture to meet a service life
But you have the german premium
balmy egret
Or I could get Honda reliability for around the same price if I go with a Honda Accord 2.0T
But a bit higher mileage (I think. I'm just now researching these cars)
trim nacelle
I would say Honda you'd have a better shot at cheap reliability
But you're not gonna quite get that german quality
I say nothing wrong with a Honda tho
Often regarded as one of the more reliable brands thanks to the infamous vtec
balmy egret
I want German fun but timing is trying to tell me no
I mean I need a hatchback though. I go mountain biking and I can't store my bike in the back of a sedan
trim nacelle
Get a crossover
Well, I guess you don't want that cos 300hp fun
💀
That sort of thing with a raised chassis is good for the occasional lite dirt track
balmy egret
I mean I'm not taking the car off roading
Here in America, biking trails have parking lots lol
trim nacelle
Must be nice
Lmao
Here the country riots if we lose the Land cruiser or patrol off the market for even 30 seconds
gloomy valve
I got cut off by a lifted truck yesterday
trim nacelle
You guys' idea of lifted is so weird to me
balmy egret
You guys' idea of lifted is so weird to me
I don't get it either tbh
trim nacelle
Like, you have normal roads everywhere that takes any prius
balmy egret
All just to take the truck around town and not take it off roading
trim nacelle
Yet there's a facilitated need for a lifted dodge ram long cabin
gloomy valve
trim nacelle
I feel like less than 10% of ram owners use rams for what they're intended for
Lmao
balmy egret
Bruh why is the Golf just the best option for me rn
gloomy valve
I feel like less than 10% of ram owners use rams for what they're intended for
It is so infrequent that you can round up the few percent and say all f150s have an empty bed. They literally drive like any other car on the road
trim nacelle
Bruh why is the Golf just the best option for me rn
Bro's slowly learning why VW has become so successful
💀
balmy egret
Me: having car issues
My friends and family, "knowing" how German vehicles are: "That's the worst decision you'll ever make"