networks-security-and-home-servers

[frank scroll]

oh ya my router gave me VPN options oddly

[glass moat]

My school board originally got bypassed with 8.8.8.8 and then that got fixed

Then VPNs worked, and then that also got blocked, but only the public ones

So you could still use private VPNs, and that continued till I graduated so idk how it is now

[odd epoch]

Paid VPNs usually work yes

It's the random "free" ones that were easiest to block

[glass moat]

I didn't want to pay so I just had wireguard

[odd epoch]

The better paid ones have features to prevent detection of a VPN connection

[glass moat]

I don't think my school board was that technologically advanced

The wifi wasn't even password protected unless you were staff

Only reason why somebody outside might not be able to access it was because the brick walls made the signal strength go poof

[odd epoch]

Funny enough a lot of paid VPNs use the wireguard service

OpenVPN is a good one they can use too

[frank scroll]

okay I added 23 lists. Should be a good start lol

[glass moat]

I remember having to be literally touching the window to get any sort of wifi lol

When I was outside

[frank scroll]

time for me to heckin sleep

thank you both so much for your help

I'd still be throwing spaghetti at the AT&T gateway homepage for sure lol

[odd epoch]

Network overhauls are always mentally taxing

You earned that sleep

[frank scroll]

haha thanks

I think the two of you earned about 98% of it tho

[odd epoch]

The fun part comes tomorrow, testing more thoroughly

It's entirely possible that if you run a speedtest it'll be faster

At least lower latency

[frank scroll]

the only problem so far is the Amazon Prime Video app on LG SmartOS just black screens lol

I'm watching the 5080 GN video & the, "Output the last lines of the pihole.log file (live)"

[glass moat]

Just sounds like it's blocking a cdn

[feral eagle]

Wireguard is usually a lot faster if it works. Some devices and services still don’t have great support for it

[errant dagger]

You might have to whitelist the domains

I had to whitelist a domain YouTube used

[odd epoch]

That read to me like he was watching the logs while watching a youtube video to see the DNS requests it makes and which ones are approved/blocked

[errant dagger]

i googled my probem + pihole and found it

jnn-pa.googleapis.com

just whitelist this allways

[errant dagger]

@odd epoch i jsut remmeber i need to do the open wrt

[frank scroll]

I don't see this in the UI. Do I have to do it thru terminal?

[errant dagger]

i can help in a second, i borked my network

fun!

[odd epoch]

No, it's on the GUI under "domains" for white listing

[errant dagger]

whats weird is the wifi works but ethernet doesnt ;/

[frank scroll]

okay cuz I keep getting this

[errant dagger]

please work,

[frank scroll]

sorry phone borked out

[odd epoch]

Should look like this

[errant dagger]

YOOO I DDID IT

[frank scroll]

okay so I add the domain nrdp.prod.cloud.netflix.com...

[errant dagger]

OPEN WRT doesnt do dhcp anymore, and wan port acts as a lan port

[errant dagger]

yuh

[frank scroll]

do I add as wildcard or no?

[odd epoch]

Yep then hit add to whitelist

No wild for that one

[frank scroll]

okay thank you

okay no wildcard then

then refresh gravity

pihole -g

[odd epoch]

You can do that from the GUI too

Under tools

[frank scroll]

yes but terminal feels all Matrix/hacker lmao

okay it's populating the heckin "New on Netflix" crap again

[odd epoch]

Back in the day I would always change my terminal text to matrix green

[errant dagger]

sometimes u gotta suffer

[frank scroll]

& Gabriel Iglesias standup works so I'll assume all the trash my gf watches will too lol

[glass moat]

Lmao

Iglesias and trash should never be put in the same sentence

😤

[frank scroll]

my "Aggregated link speed (Receive/Transmit)" kept showing 100 Mbps. I tried to research it a bit & aside from things like, "your ethernet cable is dirty," double NAT seemed to be the main suspect. Anyway, I ended up disabling DHCP on the AT&T gateway since the ASUS router is the only device that connects to & the connection is back up to 1000Mbps. I dunno if it'll drop again but at least I think I eliminated the double NAT possibility? I'm still mostly clueless lol

[red girder]

Run the modem in bridge mode, let your Asus router do the routing.

[karmic wedge]

man I need to do this with my network but I'm stuck on a crappy BGW320 from AT&T

I only need a network DNS but this goofy router doesn't let you change it, nor is there a bridge mode (I think AT&T's "bridge mode" is their "IP Passthrough", which I've heard is much more limited)

[odd epoch]

Can't, AT&T doesn't let him

[red girder]

gross

[odd epoch]

The ATT router doesn't even let you change the DNS

Which is how this debacle started

[frank scroll]

debacle is right lol

[frank scroll]

something fishy is going on here

I disabled the Wifi on my AT&T trash gateway

typically it would broadcast two wi-fi signals: 2.4ghz & 5ghz

so on my ASUS router I did the same, giving the 2.4ghz & 5ghz wi-fi networks the same SSIDs & passwords as they had when the AT&T thing broadcasted them

Their names were ATTxxxxx & ATTxxxxx_2GEXT respectively

when the AT&T router was up previously, I always thought it was strange that three different options showed for the wifi: (1) ATTxxxxx; (2) ATTxxxxx_5GEXT; & (3) ATTxxxxx_2GEXT

ATTxxxxx_5GEXT always seemed to have mediocre signal so I wouldn't use it

...

long story short why is there a third option rn?

ATTxxxxx_5GEXT shouldn't exist

from Asus Router web GUI:

I'm not sure what those two things are

basically all this blah blah comes down to, is it likely that someone is using a repeater or something to steal wifi?

those should be my only two SSIDs

it's not coming from the AT&T gateway as far as I can tell

[odd epoch]

Use a sniffer on your phone to grab the BSSID. It's formatted like a MAC address.

Then see if you can match that to any devices you own

[frank scroll]

this is the only device connected to the AT&T gateway

sniffer?

does it like, show me when I'm getting closer to the signal source? lol

[odd epoch]

It can yes

[frank scroll]

holy crap that's awesome

any suggestions on which one to look for? (using Android btw)

[glass moat]

Lmao

[odd epoch]

The one I use is called "wifi analyzer"

[glass moat]

I like ubiquitis's app called wifiman which can even do a heat map of the signal strength of your wifi

I also use wifi analyzer

[frank scroll]

ehh olgor.com or VREM software developer?

[odd epoch]

kevin yuan

[frank scroll]

I see the ubiquiti one

[odd epoch]

Hmm it's entirely possible the app I use was de-listed

[glass moat]

I use both the ubiquiti one and the vrem one

If you had to only download one, the ubiquiti one might be more useful due to the ability to make a wifi heatmap

[frank scroll]

The _5GEXT appears to have considerably worse signal strength

[glass moat]

Rather mysterious

I wonder if disabling wifi is also bugged like DNS and bridging

[frank scroll]

the only thing I can thing of is at one point I enabled the option to let others connect to my son's PC's wifi

[glass moat]

Maybe at&t's software just sucks

Or maybe that's someone else's house's network

[frank scroll]

so that devices nearby might get a better signal from his computer than from the network gateway

[odd epoch]

It wouldn't be named the same though, the odds are astronomical

[frank scroll]

ATT2CR might be someone else's but ATT8H . . . 5GEXT is same name as my network

[glass moat]

Well, for my ISP, it's "bell" plus 3 numbers, so it is somewhat likely lmao

Though true, yours is more random

[frank scroll]

even if they somehow had the same SSID, why the heck would they have the same password?

[glass moat]

Oh you can join it as well

[frank scroll]

unless they "randomly" generate those together lol

lol yes

[glass moat]

Do you get an IP, considering that you disabled dhcp on the isp router

[odd epoch]

Join it and use a network scanner

[frank scroll]

notice the differences in signal quality? lol

[frank scroll]

can you be more specific? just... pretend you're talking to a 10-year-old lol

[odd epoch]

Here's the scanner I use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.myprog.netscan

[frank scroll]

ah okay hold on

[odd epoch]

Basically it's going to use pings and such to discover devices on the network

So you can see everything that's connected

If you see a bunch of unfamiliar devices it might be someone broke in

It's rather trivial to get into most older routers

Pro tip: disable WPS

[glass moat]

Nmap

[frank scroll]

don't you have to physically press a button to do WPS?

[odd epoch]

Not if you know the 8 digit pin

Which can be found by brute force attack

Yes just an 8 digit number protects your network

[frank scroll]

okay I just disabled WPS on ASUS router webgui

I'm confused... my phone isn't finding the mystery _5GEXT rn

[glass moat]

It's a ghost

[odd epoch]

It has a weaker wifi antenna most likely

[frank scroll]

AT&T is a joke

[odd epoch]

Small device and all that

[frank scroll]

well ig I'll get off my rear end & begin the hunt lol

[glass moat]

Just get closer to your ISP router

If I had to guess it is that

[frank scroll]

Weird it has to be a different device cuz I can't get wifi 6 from it unlike the other two

[frank scroll]

pretty sure there's another router. I'm gonna try to block the MAC address

I blocked it. No more mysterious netgear lol

[odd epoch]

It's simple to change a mac address assuming it has openwrt or something

[frank scroll]

damn so really I should make an "Accept" list instead of a "Reject" list

but then I have to manually allow specific MAC addresses

& theoretically they could be spoofed or faked or whatever?

[odd epoch]

Even that isn't a perfect solution because they can spoof one of your whitelisted device macs

[frank scroll]

well ig the easiest route is to change the passwords & SSIDs?

[odd epoch]

Yeah pretty much

And if you do have a wannabe hacker neighbor that should keep them out for a while. The stronger the passphrase the better, ideally a 16 random character string including specials.

[frank scroll]

lol I'll have Android generate one of those ridiculous ones that makes you always have to have Android phones

cuz no way you'll remember your discord password is like 45aK-89eq-blahbalh

[odd epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/writethatdown-gif-5313946

[frank scroll]

lol

[frank scroll]

we should rename this discord channel, "Ask Fal'Cie"

related, what's the point of this?

[odd epoch]

I guess I am the network specialist guy lol. Just like at work.

[glass moat]

You can use this to make pihole block different sites for different clients, e.g. more strict filters for your kids

[odd epoch]

Different white/black list rules and block lists for different clients

[odd epoch]

You know it's funny, I took the networking course because that's where I felt I was weakest in my computer knowledge back in school. Now look at me

[glass moat]

Lmao

If I picked the thing I was weakest in it would have been CS

[glass moat]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-discord-mod-moderator-moderation-clash-of-clans-gif-24080525

@turbid sonnet idk why they only sent in this one channel

[turbid sonnet]

Got it. Thanks

That would be too good to be true

🤔

[glass moat]

idk, i searched their userid messages in this server and they only sent one link

[glossy root]

Is the heat spreader on a PCIe WiFi card necessary?

I have a clearance problem with my build and I want to be sure I won’t hinder performance or damage anything by taking the heat spreader off the card

[barren vine]

I don’t think so. Mine doesn’t have one and works fine.

But yours could be different hence why it comes with one

[errant dagger]

Just make sure it doesn’t get to hot

[glossy root]

@odd epoch you mentioned a pi hole as part of your home server set up.

Does it block all YouTube ads on all devices?

[glass moat]

no

[odd epoch]

It's only able to block ads that don't originate from the server you want to connect to. So no, it doesn't block youtube ads or most other streaming apps, since they serve ads from their video server.
What it does do really well is block ads on devices that you can't put an adblock on like a phone. It also reduces load on your other devices because they can't even try to load the website ads.

[elder dune]

I mean it works pretty well depending on setup and degree of integration, I will say it does require some level of checking up/maintenance on. Also messes with ssh configs to a degree

since you're essentially routing all dns traffic through that server

[frank scroll]

oh so I don't really need to do anything with it unless I have issues then? lol sorry I'm an idiot with this stuff ngl

[frank scroll]

do you use PFblocker or whatever it's called? PF something lol

[elder dune]

eh I went into it not knowing anything, and it seems to work rather well, the documentation for it is pretty intuitive, and theres a lot of good youtube videos, I think if you've got a pi, it certainly doesnt hurt

[odd epoch]

I'm on a pi-hole

You're probably thinking of PfSense

[frank scroll]

yes this

[frank scroll]

I'm using a 10700KF as a pi lol

[elder dune]

that.. . also works xD

[crystal heath]

Looking for an ethernet splitter than can handle more than one gig. Thinking of picking up one of these two. Not sure which one would be better:

https://www.amazon.com/Port-2-5GB-Switch-Unmanaged-10-100-1000Mbps/dp/B0CWTY4Y6F/ref=sr_1_4?sr=8-4
https://www.amazon.com/BrosTrend-Switch-Ethernet-Multi-Gigabit-Protection/dp/B0DJLNTBVF/ref=sr_1_3?sr=8-3

[glass moat]

the 5 port realhd one is technically better, at least according to specs (it has a sfp+ port)
both switches are rated F by fakespot though

[crystal heath]

Would there be an ideal one outside of those two if that's the case?

[glass moat]

I would pick the one I said earlier still due having the SFP+

[last quail]

I just got my two mx4200s and well, I was talking with falcie about turning them into Ad blockers and vpn with openwrt

Does anyone have any specific instructions?

I don’t plan on getting rid of my old router cause it’s better than the two

[last quail]

Also this is probably a stupid question but could I have ethernet on my pc by using the child node..

I know it’ll work, just is there any difference from actual wireless cause it’s connected to the parent node by WiFi? 💀

[junior mulch]

Nah

@turbid sonnet

[turbid sonnet]

Done

[junior mulch]

Thanks

[last quail]

If my main router was 195.165.0.1

Would I change my 2nd routers IP address to 195.165.1.1?

I’m trying to connect two routers under one network atm

[olive mist]

How's your network mapped out?

[last quail]

I have my rax78 (main) next to my modem, then I plan having one of my ax4200's next to it, then the other ax4200 (child node) by my pc

modem/routers are upstairs, my pc downstairs. It's like a solid 30ft away diagonally through the floor

[olive mist]

Do you need the child network to be able to access the parent network?

[last quail]

I think my answer is no? i'm really really new to this so answers may be wrong

I'm hoping to use the child node almost as a "wifi extender" kinda? otherwise I might have it in another corner of my house for better wifi throughout

[olive mist]

You could probably put it in the repeater mode

If it has one

[last quail]

no clue what that is

[olive mist]

Some router have a repeater mode

Basically it extends the original network rather than creating a new sub-network

Depends on your router tho

And what you're trying to do

[last quail]

searched it up, I don't think it has that

[olive mist]

Well

In that case your config will be fine

[last quail]

Well that seems like it's automatically, i'm trying to make a static IP or something?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsE9OWQdtog

That's what i'm going based off but there's so many things I got going wrong, like my rax78 is 10.0 while the mx4200s are 192

[olive mist]

I'm not sure how you can access devices on the parent network while connected to the child network

But you can port forward on the child network to access it on the parent

I'm using a similar config with my apartment building wifi

Building wifi > router > devices

[last quail]

hmm alright, though should I openwrt my mx4200s before doing all of that or afterwards?

[olive mist]

But for me this was designed with the full intention to separate the network

[olive mist]

Absolutely

That would make your life a lot easier

[last quail]

I want built in ad blockers for it

[olive mist]

Maybe it'll give you additional functions

I highly recommend it

[last quail]

before or after I set it all up? 😭

[olive mist]

Before

[last quail]

time to unplug everything then lmao

also, is there any way to change the IP address of 192 to 10.0? or should I change the 10.0 to 192?

[olive mist]

wdym?

[last quail]

both routers have different IP addresses

if I were to do static IP addresses, wouldn't I need the same IP addresses?

[olive mist]

I usually change 192.168.a.x

I usually change the (a)

[last quail]

well yes

[olive mist]

So say

My main network is 192.168.1.1

And my router has a local ip of 192.168.100.1

[last quail]

but my rax78 is 10.0.a.x, while both of my mx4200's are 192.168.a.x

[olive mist]

Actually I'm not sure tbh

[last quail]

wouldn't that cause compability issues if I tried making one network under 2 routers

ah

[olive mist]

What you could do is

[last quail]

My head is just full of chemistry formulas and router stuff rn

so this is taking a heavy toll on my thought process

[olive mist]

Maybe try putting all the routers on the same network?

[last quail]

that's what i'm trying to do

[olive mist]

I'd say

Flash openwrt first

See if it unlocks bridge/repeater mode

[last quail]

alright

[olive mist]

I'm running my network under a repeater then on a separate lan address

Openwrt is very powerful

[last quail]

do I need to connect my routers to the pc via ethernet or?

for openwrting it

or is it wireless option

[olive mist]

Depends on your specific router

I'd look on the flash instructions on your router's page

[last quail]

https://www.reddit.com/r/openwrt/comments/1fgta78/guide_to_installing_openwrt_on_the_20_linksys/

same model basically, just extra ram on it

but I think it says I can just do it through the website? fact check me on that though

[olive mist]

If the firmware flash through the web interface works yeah

[last quail]

Well i've been troubleshooting for awhile, but should I place my mx4200 on top of my pc or?

it's like a sandwich almost, PC, router, then the antenna is about 1.5ft above the router, no clue if there's really any signal interference

[glass moat]

there's always going to be interference, even in an empty room

RF gets reflected by the walls lmao

which is why wifi uses FSK

well

technically, but also not exactly

it uses OFDM which is multiple different methods

wait, i confused it, it was PSK, not FSK

bluetooth was the one that uses FSK nowadays

to put it more simply, it's different ways of encoding signals in RF; some methods are more subseptical to interference
radios actually do a similar thing, though they transmit analog audio through either Amplitude Modulation, or Frequency modulation (most commonly)
for digital signals, we have ASK (amplitude shift keying), FSK (frequency shift keying), and PSK (phase shift keying) (most commonly, there are more methods than these)

anyways, this isnt important to know specifically

lol

just place the antennas wherever that is least likely to get in the path of the signal (often higher is better)

[last quail]

😭

anyways ya, antenna can't go high anyways

though they should really make it standard to have longer antenna cables, or antenna extensions for motherboards instead of those wacky I/O shield ones

[glass moat]

you can get them for cheap tbf

higher end mobos and wifi cards sometimes include one of those antennas that you can place on top of the case or like

on the desk or something

[last quail]

my z690 asus came with one, magnetic base is nice cause I have a magnetic mirror above my setup

only downside is, the antenna doesn't hold it's position like it's supposed to

so it looks like a flicked down minecraft lever

[glass moat]

can always hot glue it

small dab should be enough

[last quail]

is it bad to say i've never used hot glue before

[glass moat]

a little surprising lol

you can get a low temp one for like 5 bucks at a crafts store

[last quail]

i'll probably do that then

[glass moat]

actually it might be more than 5 bucks these days lmfao
i just remember them being like 5 ish bucks like 10 years ago at this point 💀

they shouldnt be expensive though

they're really just a heating element, and a little trigger that squeezes the stick of hot melt glue into the heating element

[last quail]

So

I tried openwrting my mx4200

Did everything correctly till it wanted to reboot

I pressed yes, and it "rebooted" issue is, never turned blue again. it's still red.

Okay I figured out the child node (the one by my pc) won't turn blue till I reenable the wifi on the parent node which is upstairs, I just have to relocate my setup is all : )

[glass moat]

interesting lmao

[last quail]

I got it fixed using an Xbox LOL

Only issue is that my child node won’t connect, as if it isn’t set up

I don’t think openwrt supports that

[glass moat]

im not familiar enough with openwrt to know what or why this is happening tbh

[last quail]

All good, but ya there isn’t much about the child node not connecting with openwrt

[elder prism]

is this channel appropriate for discussing ISPs or internet speeds?

[glass moat]

it is fine, though ISPS are quite region specific so not many people might be able to weigh in

[olive mist]

I can rant about aussie telcoms all day

Although I suspect that's not what you want

[elder prism]

im trying to figure out which of these 2 are better for gaming. im not sure if the high of download being 748 on the one is good or bad because I know gaming needs low latency but its not clear if they are tracking latency or speed
the top says ping so im assuming its latency which if thats true. the one with 40 ping would be better for gaming correct?

my current internet for reference.

I get about 140 ping when playing North America South East servers on tarkov.

[glass moat]

both are not great
the one on the right (40 56 70) is better than the left though

only by a little bit though

both show signs of buffer bloat

[elder prism]

I know they arent but thats what you get when you live hours away from the city. my current ISP is screwing me big time though so I gotta switch. hopefully FTTH comes to our area soon. Ive heard its supposed to be up there with fiber.
Thank you though. ill see how much the 40-56-70 is gonna set me back. I thought starlink (the one on the left) was gonna beat the other one but I guess not.

[olive mist]

What about 5G

Sometimes ISPs offer 5G home internet plans

[noble berry]

I recently switched from fttc to ftth, got a new router and speeds are really good with gigabit download and upload. however the ethernet port in my living room isn't working properly anymore, I wired it last year and it worked fine, it connects to a switch that is directly connected to the router. testing with my usual usbC-eth gigabit adapter I can get it to connect few times and speeds are terrible, mostly ranging from kbps to few mbps, and never past 100mbps.
what could have happened? it's been a few months since I've used this port so I don't know if the problem came up recently

[noble berry]

for the living room socket I had to use a coupler (that I wired and soldered myself - might just be the problem) and a second cable since I was two meters short at the end.

right before the coupler, speeds are normal, the last 2m of cable are basically embedded in the wall which means it shouldnt be damaged. any chance the new router simply doesn't provide enough power to complete the 20m cable run? shouldn't the switch be the one that handles the signal strength for that cable?

[noble berry]

yep... the coupler is failing

[small sinew]

Are Ethernet splitters worth it?
I have an Xbox and computer on the other side of the house from the internet box. I was wondering if a spitter would work or if it would just be best to get another cord to run across the house

[glass moat]

splitters? no, your speeds will be greatly reduced
network switches? yes.

[glass moat]

soldered?

usually they're crimped on lmao

[noble berry]

I had to create an ethernet coupler with two connectors (the ones meant to be soldered on pcbs) and just soldered wires between the pins

it had to be small to fit through the wall

any other coulper I bought was usually too big because they occupy extra space to accommodate the cable clips

[glass moat]

normally you terminate the cable after fishing it LOL

[noble berry]

I did, the sketchy part is the coupler

let me show you

the problem is with the connectors that are not tight and the cables are loose when plugged in

[glass moat]

LMFAO that's a crazy connector

Tbh it's kinda impressive that you even thought of doing this

Despite its reliability

I would have just went on Ali or smth and bought a dozen premade decent ones and only use one of them

[noble berry]

thats what i did before i crafted this Frankenstein thing, but all of them would not fit because they were just a millimeter too big

[glass moat]

Oh

Wait

Did you not use a wall plate with your cable

Normally I use the uhh

Low voltage clip boxes

Which give you a full rectangle of space

This kinda thing

[noble berry]

this is where the coupler is, the gray cable is then wired to a wall ethernet socket

a lid covers the thing where the cables run and the coupler is just the maximum height to fit

[glass moat]

ohhh a cable channel

[noble berry]

yeah the thing

i didnt remember the name

[noble berry]

uuuh
my intel wireless 2200bg pci thing doesn't work properly
I've tried a few different drivers but xp either tries to connect forever or it says the network might have gone out of range

what should I do?

it's on a thinkpad r40, I remember one driver allowed it to connect but only to certain nets

[noble berry]

i just got an inspur dual rj45 10gig card with x540-t2 chipset and I clearly did not read the description... it supports 100mbps, 1gbps and 10gbps, but not 2.5gbps which is what I needed it for. are there any workarounds?

[feral eagle]

Im not seeing anything about a workaround to use 2.5 on the x540

[noble berry]

that means ill have to get a more expensive card that supports only up to 2.5gig

[feral eagle]

im about to rip something apart, anyone good with traefik here

took the config almost exactly from a currently working config and I just cannot get this one to go at all

[karmic wedge]

I've never gotten Traefik to work lol. I just manually do everything with Nginx Proxy Manager and Pi Hole

My setup is weird though. I have to put Nginx Proxy Manager on all of my devices while I have a single Pi Hole server

[feral eagle]

For one set of sites i had nginx proxy manager, but it was somewhat limited and I started having more issues with it lately. Traefik I had setup for most of my internal sites and has been working enough. I just need to find out what the hell to do with my broken npm install

[karmic wedge]

Here you go guys. Some cable **** for y'all

[feral eagle]

bruh

[noble berry]

do you recommend a rtl8125b or intel i226 based 2.5gbps nic?

[feral eagle]

Both have mixed reputations, looks like some people had better luck with the intel one depending on the revision

In general for networking intel is recommended over realtek

[noble berry]

thanks, ill see whats more convenient for me

[karmic wedge]

Man I should just sell all of my servers and have a single massive Proxmox server instead

Single point of failure. I know exactly what went wrong ;)

Only need a single KVM switch as well

[glass moat]

Ong

Simplify the troubleshooting process with a single point of failire

What a brilliant idea

[karmic wedge]

Just cheaper that way. No more "I need to build a new server just for [insert specific task here]" and no more "one of my servers went down shoooot"

Perhaps even a KVM on the KVM

I need a server that has a backup and a backup for that backup, and a NAS (specifically a NAS) that acts as a backup, which also has a backup with double the storage so it can handle the backups of the NAS

backup

[glass moat]

True

Back it all up on the one proxmox server

That way you would have an immediate connection to recover the backup

[karmic wedge]

Yeah exactly

💀💀💀

[glass moat]

💀 💀 💀 💀

[odd epoch]

Disable routing on your router and make a server do it

With a separate server for DHCP ofc

[glass moat]

All on the same proxmox server

[karmic wedge]

This is what I actually want to do

[frank scroll]

PSA: if you update Pihole to 6.0.5, change your URL for pihole favorite from http:// to https:// & you can access web gui thing again

[karmic wedge]

Thanks lol

[eternal brook]

anyone know how to disable this whenever i google search something it shows my location. all browsers and search engines do it, i have all location data blocked.

other than a vpn

idrc if my location is visible to google or whatever just that the popup is gone cuz ill be sharing my screen or smth and then accidentally show my location live

[glass moat]

if you don't use an VPN, then any site you access will know your location

i think that is popping up because you have location data blocked, so google is warning you that your location is visible to the site

i dont have it disabled and i've never seen this popup myself

[eternal brook]

its just if i search like a resturant or something

itll say results for (location)

ive messed with settings on and off it still does it

[glass moat]

interesting

ohhh

i see what you mean

yeah idk how you disable that either

might be able to modify the CSS or whatever on google with an extension to hide it

but idk if anybody made that extension yet

[nimble sigil]

Maybe uBlock can but idk

[karmic wedge]

Disable location services for Chrome

[eternal brook]

have it off no clue how to fix. browsing online it seems like theres no solution :/

[karmic wedge]

Also just avoid using Chrome. It's practically spyware

[nimble sigil]

Yeah just use brave or something

Ungoogled chromium even

[karmic wedge]

I wish Brave had a better syncing functionality

Primarily for passwords

Maybe I just need a good password manager for syncing across devices (not just Brave browser to Brave browser, but also for Safari and wherever else on my phone)

[nimble sigil]

Yeah I just use protonpass

[nimble sigil]

Works across all devices as far as I know and has a desktop app and browser extensions

[karmic wedge]

Could I self host this? :0

[karmic wedge]

Oooh I could self host Bitwarden

[nimble sigil]

Oh I dont think so

[karmic wedge]

Ew no thanks then

Bitwarden it is

[feral eagle]

Vaultwarden is nice

Been using it for years

[karmic wedge]

I just want a whole-browser sync that goes from one browser to another

Like bookmarks, passwords, etc.

There are services that do either but not both

I JUST WANT BOTH WHY CAN'T WE HAVE THAT

lol

[feral eagle]

I think arc does that but their windows support is finicky

Doesn’t chrome do that as well?

[karmic wedge]

I use different browsers across different devices daily lol

Brave and Firefox on several Windows devices and my MacBook and Safari on my phone

[feral eagle]

Oh you mean like that

The problem is especially with bookmarks a lot of browsers have their own way of storing and organizing that data

[odd epoch]

Good and bad news for the DIY network community. The specs for the OpenWRT Two are out.
Good news, it's updated with a faster processor, Wi-Fi 7, SFP port, multiple 10/5/2.5Gb ports.
Bad news, the price is going up to $250.

[glass moat]

10 gig ports? No wonder

I'm assuming that the OpenWRT two isn't replacing the OpenWRT one

I'd wager that it's just like a higher tier

[digital canyon]

I'm curious to know if Windows 11 added some kind of virtual hard drive to Windows family share. I shut my familyshare PC down yesterday, after a (J) drive showed up in the share list. I took a look inside the folder and saw a Windows folder and Minecraft backups and adata folder. J would only show up if a thumb drive or external dvd is plugged in. So curious if anyone else seen similar.

[glass moat]

You could mount network shares for quite some time now

Idk which version they added it but at least since like XP
Probably was added earlier

[ivory hinge]

i'm just looking for a repeater

[glass moat]

that isnt very descriptive lmao

what was the repeater you were looking at

also what router are you using, what is the budget for extending the wifi network, and can you run patch cable

[odd epoch]

Keep in mind that the advertised speed on repeaters is combined with the links between your router and device.
Meaning if it's rated as "AC1300" the effective max speed will be 650, and that speed will go down depending on signal strength.

[ivory hinge]

https://www.amazon.com/Extender-Wireless-Internet-Extenders-Compatible/dp/B0CST8H76V/ref=sr_1_8?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.La3plU2XosU70h4DE9T21Xdiwv-UKnhEGcC2nG_gEc3OecHlpcNgCu90sLXptqIZ3F6RIrjKRSH2b-BTiiIQTt38FIvoXNnJEL9HTiNOHcgDzlmF2asOtmzm9AEUGT3NQXOE32mzzSeEZSrSEDr66r9f_OSH4SoqpXzT9Sk7h1mxDyXbFDclH1Jg4n_i8VOoBFIP3ZU4yOd7By4VMxxdV8ibeVAUdBB9-XH8Mda4j75TrFdI4eY5aZfgdFLxI73iPIn-D-oKgcG-Ngcgu2M4-zovRhULuvX8nPx6l4KE4Dg.mPVwygEfg1pLQuVkasum48q9fSrSykVkjAA2RhVlN-o&dib_tag=se&keywords=wifi+repeater&qid=1743968634&s=electronics&sr=1-8

[odd epoch]

3.7 stars on Amazon is like negative stars anywhere else

Wow only 2.4GHz

[ivory hinge]

what

i could probably spend

50 dollars

20-50 dollars

repeater could be 30-40

[odd epoch]

https://a.co/d/5KrSD5j

Most good brands left Amazon a while ago. The only ones left are mostly garbage off brands.

Newegg has better options usually

[ivory hinge]

@odd epoch

how do i set it up

also whats the good ethernet cable

https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-Ethernet-Braided-Network-Compatible/dp/B0875VL1CJ/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=3EXUPTYNT0UCP&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.W2iSbQd5bQGYHCf-9Vt3AjjSLI8TIjJq5yf2WFHv1b8melS8sfNwAbiR2bLcUtgSW9zrO6pwwr5D-r3rWC1Ht0b7OXyq41wsUlIx_L9pHbtgEU7mxniVB9JLVqBAUiQfoqlL7N0d9wo9Q1DlnuNKpXAd-RIPWxo0o_AVP4imvjPMidZikSyXgGRlcqmex164G6gtwUXRkV49Yy-brzKNKYXz6i29dBVEmgWk_jsQLhSkLFRpYoUb3xwoX_CUi3O_YdSI7jfaZnxbmCiCk6h5bRkux4HVB9FsgZSXl9LXrrk.KVd02IRsyICWHfEaY-8obWFb1uIaxRcxFy3OGlOXhw8&dib_tag=se&keywords=ethernet%2Bcable&qid=1743980458&s=electronics&sprefix=ethernet%2Bcab%2Celectronics%2C165&sr=1-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&th=1

maybe this

[feral eagle]

Just get a cat6a cable

[ivory hinge]

whats the difference between 6a and 8

[feral eagle]

There is no reason to get cat8. Especially at such a short distance. 6 is standard and more than enough for 98% of home users

[ivory hinge]

okay

so do i just hit a button to turn it on

how does it work

how wi ll it find the wifi

or do i find that in the manual

[glass moat]

Manual will say

You would generally configure it in a web ui

[digital canyon]

Bad habit of mine. Family Share was done away with back with Windows 10. It's now just Networking, and you can easily just tag a folder and put it on a share for specific user on network, or everyone. Far as I knew, only people behind the router have access, unless someone adds something like apache server, which opens a very bad hornets nest lol. I'm curious if something changed where files and folders can be accessed over the net. Not just on the network.

I made the mistake a few years back running WAMP, and adding the download folder. It resulted in not just the download section, but Adata and local as well. Spent hours changing every password after that slip. As I said, hornets nest heh.

[odd epoch]

Typically you would just hold the wps button on the router and then on the repeater and they find each other

[glass moat]

Wps 😨

[odd epoch]

Yes it's a major security hole that nearly every ISP provided router leaves enabled

Nothing like having your entire network protected by an 8 digit pin

[wide depot]

it's 8 numbers only right?

I'm pretty sure you can brute force that in like

half a minute?

[crisp shadow]

10 million combos, if we're talking 1 mega-combination per second, that's 10 seconds

[glass moat]

and depending on how lucky you are (or unlucky rather) it could be even faster than that

imagine if the code is just 00000001

[wide depot]

Even at a lower combination rate, it's not gonna hold someone with tools back for long

[crisp shadow]

yeah and if the system is even faster to unlock, it's even faster to crack

[glass moat]

https://www.humblebundle.com/books/networking-and-security-cert-prep-pearson-it-certification-exam-cram-books idk if anybody would be interested in this but it's cheap

like 25usd i think (it says 35.75CAD)

[odd epoch]

Yes but there is some level of protection. Routers will limit you to about 5 attempts before locking you out for a period of time. Modern routers will also blacklist devices that get locked out too many times

On an older router that only limits attempts to 5 per hour that can mean several days to crack.

[crisp shadow]

i have somewhat of a problem

after booting up my computer a few minutes ago and opening chrome, i noticed that i wasn't able to open youtube as i would usually do. looking further, i wasn't able to open any new sites. edge doesn't work either. but discord and spotify both work fine? so do all my game launchers, and anything that has a connection to anything. except of course my browsers.

any help would be appreciated because i have assignments due.

and yea, restart did not help at all.

nevermind, edge does work.

i'm going to try reinstalling chrome.

and, uhh, it fixed itself

crisis averted ig😅

[nimble sigil]

I have a solution

Don't use chrome

[karmic wedge]

100% agree

I don't think Chrome was the problem but I still agree lol

Same with Edge

Brave or a Firefox fork idc

[nimble sigil]

Even ungoogled chromium

Edge just gives your data to microsoft instead of Google

Its still bloated

[karmic wedge]

Yeah idk why people suggest Edge 💀

[crisp shadow]

they do?

everyone i kinow uses chrome firefox or safari

[nimble sigil]

People def suggest edge

For some reason

Firefox no longer, librewolf now

They're doing the data selling thing already

And they're atrophying in features and other stuff cause they're getting enough money that they don't need to do anything else but maintenance and still be fine

[karmic wedge]

I'll never understand the Edge glazing

[nimble sigil]

You get to edge while you browse what's there not to like

[karmic wedge]

Edge: It's almost the end of the year and we want to see how you #Edge. Show us your most memorable edges

Edge moment

[crisp shadow]

Brooo it's not working again

I might just repair windows

[karmic wedge]

sfc /scannow

[crisp shadow]

Win+r command?

[karmic wedge]

CMD as admin

[feral eagle]

the heck man, now my server is crashing with no error logs

[karmic wedge]

ripppp good luck with that

[feral eagle]

how the heck can I troubleshoot this?

the cpu gets pinned suddenly, logs start blipping and then it just turns off

I can't find what process is causing this

[feral eagle]

I think I found the issue

[karmic wedge]

It's not healthy that I want one of these
https://store.45homelab.com/configure/hl15

[feral eagle]

nope, it really isn't

[karmic wedge]

Having a moddable car and also wanting genuine servers is not a healthy combo

[feral eagle]

luckily car is one thing I haven't invested much in. instead its camera gear, some computers, audio gear, piano

[karmic wedge]

Cars get expensive lol

Surprisingly not as expensive as you'd think though. I ordered three parts (two of them were in a bundle). The subtotal was only like ~$600

[glass moat]

"three parts"
Meanwhile: cars have several thousand parts

[karmic wedge]

@feral eagle @limber hill this guy right here please

[noble berry]

I have multiple WoL enabled devices in my home network, I often need to turn them on remotely and I use the WolOn app. on my router I used to have port forwarding for each device, with different external ports (9, 10, 11, 12...) and internal port 9 for all devices + respective macs & ips.
Should it instead be enough to only set up one port forwarding rule that redirects the packets to broadcast address? I assume the magic packet then finds its way to the device with the mac address.

this is what WolOn requires. Is there a port always open on windows devices and routers I can use to check the status of the device?

[karmic wedge]

If you have the equipment for it, use UpSnap (Docker service) and you'll have all of your WoL devices listed there. You'll need Tailscale to access it remotely or use Cloudflare with Zero Trust and Access if you prefer not to use Tailscale

That's my setup

[noble berry]

that sounds like too many extra steps for wol

[karmic wedge]

Easy

Just setup like two things: The service and then each device within the service's web UI

[glass moat]

A little setup and then for any additional devices you add it's barely any effort

[true venture]

Does anyone know how I can setup a Minecraft server on my pc without direct access to the Wifi's admin panel? Essential is somewhat working for me but it chugs up a lot of resources and doesn't perform quite as well.

[feral eagle]

You really do need network access for port forwarding unless you use some sort of proxy/vpn method. Like you could probably just run a standard server, setup tailscale on the server device and client devices and share that device with others through the tailscale admin panel

[true venture]

Can someone join the server by putting in a ip or domain like play.servername.com using this method if I don't enable whitelist on the server?

[feral eagle]

Since you can’t do normal port forwarding no one from outside can access except for people on your home network or anyone that has access to the vpn running on the server. Tailscale sets up device specific ips and hostnames that can be used by anyone with the vpn enabled

The default hostname is typically just the name of the device, you still will likely need to specify the port. So like MyWindowsPC:25565

[true venture]

So if I am understanding correctly, a public MC server is impossible without direct access to the wifi.

[feral eagle]

To run from your own network ye unless there is some sort of vpn, proxy, relay server in between

[true venture]

gotcha. How hard is tailscale to use? I remember being recommended to check out tailscale and something else last time I was here.

My reason for wanting to setup a standard MC server is that I am currenting eating up about 24-40GB of ram depending on player count with Essential.

[feral eagle]

Umm its not too difficult. The only reason some people have difficulty with it is because its not like typical vpns. it only routes specific traffic as opposed to something like openvpn that routes all traffic to the server device

[feral eagle]

Dang so is that a service you are paying for

[true venture]

Running a minecraft server off my pc so the cost is just electricity but the resource consumption is outrageous.

I have been using Essential to run the server lately because of having moved homes.

[feral eagle]

How many players? Mods?

[true venture]

Light well optimized mods. at least 2-3 on a slow day with up to 10 or so usually.

At the same time.

I know it has something to do with the way Essential handles the resources because the same player count on a proper server I would usually see around a 3rd of the ram consumption

[true venture]

Oh wait, so can I setup the MC server with tailscale and anyone I share the port with can access it or do I need to specify who can access the server through the port?

[feral eagle]

I forget how much they recommend for vanilla servers. I thought it was around 1GB per user. server clients should allow you to set limits

[feral eagle]

they would also need tailscale to access the ip, there is a generic guide using a linux server here: https://tailscale.com/kb/1137/minecraft

theoretically you should only have to share the device and have the other users install the vpn to access, I personally have not tried with a mc server but I think others here have done this

[true venture]

gotcha, I will definitely consider this.

I can't I have hit the point where I considered 128GB of ram for my personal pc lmfao.

[feral eagle]

if you do a lot of self hosted stuff it can be nice to have. I use it to access a lot of local only domains for my private services

[true venture]

Could you give me an example of a service? Up till now I have only ever used VPNs to gain access to information. VPNs such as Astral, Proton, etc.

[feral eagle]

sure, so kind of like a minecraft server I run a few web apps for services like self hosted password managers, cloud storage alternatives, or even just management dashboards for my machines. I could make them accessing publicly via domain or public ip but some of them I want to restrict access but still access outside of my network.

for example here I have my game server manager that is setup with a local domain name, even though im not home with tailscale I have it setup to access that local domain but if I were to type in that domain without the vpn it would not resolve because it does not exist. (the last part is a domain I own that is why I blur but it does not point to anything)

if I didn't setup a domain name I could still access the services by using either the machine name or tailnet ip for that device like so:

but all other traffic is not routed through VPN (like if you were to google search)

[true venture]

So if I am understanding correctly it allows you to setup a more secure access point for your control panels?

[feral eagle]

it's more secure than leaving a domain or ip that anyone can access. say if you were to setup port forwarding for mc server you could hand out your public ip to friends but you have to make sure you can trust them and would have to setup blocklists to prevent randoms from finding it

[true venture]

Gotcha.

I want to setup a public mc server but I am not sure what would be a good way to secure the network.

I will have access to the internet/router when i move homes in a couple months.

[feral eagle]

fully public can be complicated, I'm not the best to inform on that but some people setup isolated networks on their network to expose publicly. say if you were running a public website you don't want to prevent people from finding it

[true venture]

Oh wait so it's possible to create a isolated space that's public for any one to connect to but because it's isolated they can't for example route their way directly to other computers on the network?

[feral eagle]

yes, requires a bit more advanced setup on your router side. here is a basic diagram that kind of shows the gist

this is if you wanted full discoverability, restricts access from public servers to internal devices to prevent possible security breaches

[true venture]

So the firewall will redirect traffic from the internet to the public server?

[feral eagle]

ye you basically setup a separate network for the device (if router supports it)

[true venture]

Gotcha! this info is like gold to me. thank you for always being so helpful.

[true venture]

Do you happen to know what this feature would be called on a router?

Because I am definitely going to look up how to set something like this up once I get around to it.

[feral eagle]

the way unifi shows it in their tables kind of explains how it works a bit

[true venture]

so the gateway is like a traffic cop or controller that tells the network where to send the incoming traffic from the internet to correct?

[feral eagle]

ye the gateway is essentially the router/firewall

[true venture]

so this feature is called Zones?

[feral eagle]

this is a zone based firewall, usually VLANs are used to separate the networks. so you probably want a router that properly supports that, or if you are using custom router a software like pfsense or opnsense

[true venture]

i have no idea if it stills works (sat through 2 winters in a car) but I have old but quality netgear router. the software on it had been changed to one that supports a vpn so I'd have to change the vpn.

got it about 7 years ago back in China to get a home google system working.

So the bottom line, if I am following, I need to have a router that supports VLANs to setup a Zone Based Firewall?

[feral eagle]

There might be other ways that I do not know of, but I believe it is ideal

[true venture]

Gotcha.

On a different topic how is Pterodatyl nowadays?

I used to use it about 5 years ago when I was running a small MC business using servers from Hetzner.

[feral eagle]

it was a pain in the ass to get running with ssl but now that I have it setup it has been nice, has what I need and it runs efficiently. I'm a big fan of the container approach to managing multiple instances

[true venture]

Yeah it's nice being able to create and manage multiple servers so easily.

[feral eagle]

I had the main server running the instances powered off since its not doing anything rn, was going to try out the migration feature and see if that works or breaks everything lol

[true venture]

hopefully it works.

[feral eagle]

I always keep backups so it's not too bad if it goes wrong, just a convenience thing really

[true venture]

I am trying to get all the extra parts I need to assemble a dedicated server machine so I have been debating running Pterodatyl or running regular windows servers off of it

[feral eagle]

you could use a hypervisor os like proxmox and create vms for different nodes

[true venture]

So like a separate windows instance for each server?

[feral eagle]

You could do a windows vm, or a linux vm, i think they support container templates as well

Depends how you want to run it and if you plan to add things later really

[true venture]

What are container templates?

If I knew them before I have clearly forgotten.

[feral eagle]

https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Linux_Container this is proxmox's wiki on their container (LXC) support. templates are basically a guideline of what to install and how to set it up. so if you wanted multiple installs of an app like wordpress you can just use the same template as a starting point with all the key software already configured

[true venture]

gotcha.

Odd question, @feral eagle do you know if Pterodatyl has support for Ark Survival Ascended servers?

What I liked about it back when I was using them was the ease of connecting multiple servers together through a user friendly interface.

Looks like a yes according to google but I was wondering if you were able to verify.

[feral eagle]

I know they have some version of ark available, I don't have the game so I haven't tried myself

[true venture]

found a article on how to make a ark ascended cluster with pterodatyl so I am assuming that's a yes.

[feral eagle]

yeah I guess for context, pterodactyl is essentially a container management interface. they spin up linux instances in container with all the software, makes it easier to manage resources and prevent complete system crashes if one game server crashes

[true venture]

Gotcha. Yeah I think Pterodatyl would be the smart way to do it since I want to setup a full Ark Ascended Cluster + 1 or 2 minecraft servers.

So that would be 8-10 servers

[glass moat]

@karmic wedge i looked further into the glinet ip kvm and it looks pretty half baked tbh
but looking at it closer, there's a better more finished ip kvm called jetkvm with similar features but more refined

and while you can only order it through kickstarter, they've already shipped most orders so there's little to no risk now

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jetkvm/jetkvm

[glass moat]

i say half baked especially since it's basically a reskin of pikvm and is missing most of the features pikvm already had

[karmic wedge]

Yeah I’ve heard of the JetKVM. I don't like that it's a Kickstarter project

[feral eagle]

kickstarters are often sketchy but I would say this one is fairly safe since there are a lot of working units out there and they have been shipping orders

[glass moat]

They're planning on opening orders on their site soon (I'll give you a ping when I see it open if you'd like)

[karmic wedge]

Sure

[glass moat]

oh right you're in the states so they wont be shipping there for now due to the tarrifs

though even the gl inet ones would be affected i think

[true venture]

How well do you guys think a R5-5700G or I7-10700F can run a Minecraft Server or 2?

2x16GB of ram.

[rugged flare]

a single minecraft server should be fine

how many peeps

[true venture]

Around 10 give or take currently and I may bring it up to around 30ish.

While I know I have enough ram my concern is how well the cpu would run.

[glass moat]

It'll probably do 20 ish fine between the two servers
Honestly kinda hard to estimate without knowing the exact config of the server

The Minecraft server I mean

Not the hardware

Also you definitely want some plugins to decrease the performance penalty from people using too many hoppers

Since they work every tick

Adds up quickly

But usually hopper performance plugins break vanilla sorters

So you'll want a plugin to add sorters and such

Lmao

[true venture]

Plan is to most likely setup just 1 modded server.

[true venture]

How does a 5700G compare to a R9-3900X?

[glass moat]

Better due to Minecraft relying on single core

[karmic wedge]

I forgot that the 3900X exists

[olive mist]

I'd take the one with better single thread performance

[neon island]

Eh, fabric perf mods tend to do better afaik

Rather than going plugins

Tho, it does mean more management (installing lot of optimization mods) and waiting longer for everything to update to new versions

[silver pewter]

are there any methods or ways to decrease internet delay/ping on a computer? like through the system settings

[karmic wedge]

Not really. Just run an Ethernet cable across your house

[glass moat]

internet delay has pretty much nothing to do with windows despite how bad windows is

like motor said, use a wired connection should keep your connection stable, but if your ping is high from the ISP, there's not much you can do about that

but if your ping is low from the ISP (unloaded latency, but your latency in games or such is high (loaded latency), then you have what's known as bufferbloat, which you likely either need to change the firmware on your router, or upgrade your router to something that supports a better algorithm for QoS

[feral eagle]

man I am about to give up on this thing. I have tried so many different configurations and nothing stops these errors from happening within a month

[glass moat]

https://youtube.com/shorts/_fab-uu3kUc

interesting

[true venture]

Well I managed to get a 7950x for $357 after tax and shipping.

So I will be using that for a server once I get a extra case, cooler, ram, psu, and ssd in a couple weeks or so.

[feral eagle]

does anyone have patch cables they recommend for very short runs? just from panel to switch, looking for around 20-30

[glass moat]

Patch panel to switch? You'll be able to buy a bunch in bulk for cheaper

https://www.infinitecables.com/a/cart?cart-token=V4oD1&link-token=dRjVR or maybe

[feral eagle]

Bulk cable is always cheap ofc but idk if they do that at much of a discount for patch cables. I really don’t want to manually terminate 60 ends lol

[glass moat]

No I meant terminated cables specifically made for patch panel → switch in bulk lmao

But the bulk I've seen are either more expensive than buying it from a cable supplier like infinite cables (though they're Canadian so you might want to look for an American company to not pay tarrifs)

Or there way more than you need

[feral eagle]

yeah I figured, some places I saw don't have much discount of bulk cables especially of that amount but ill have to check

[glass moat]

Iirc monoprice is American so you'll probably not have tarrifs for them

Yeah California

[last loom]

im facing issues on my wifi, and it keeps disconnecting me on my PC and its showing a X on the wifi symbol and forcing to reenter the password

every time

what can I do?

[glass moat]

Try reinstalling drivers, though that's pretty strange

How frequent are the disconnectiona

[timber vessel]

I'm looking to get a wifi card, is there an undisputed "best one" or does it not matter much? because I was just thinking of getting one of these
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dBFKHx/tp-link-archer-tx3000e-pcie-x1-80211abgnacax-wi-fi-adapter-archer-tx3000e
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bQ8Zxr/asus-wireless-network-card-pceac56

for reference ill be moving into a college dorm soon

[wide flume]

Any ax200 or equivalent pcie wifi card will do fine

First one should be fine

[spark iron]

Welp, I've officially started my network overhaul. Just bought a Ubiquiti cloud Gateway Fiber, plan on getting a 16 port switch, an aggregation switch sometime after this to run the rest of my house. Also probably one of the U7 -XG APs.

[glass moat]

pretty much anything by intel would be good

[karmic wedge]

Man finally figuring out how to combine Nginx Proxy Manager, Cloudflare, and Authentik is such a great feeling

[crisp shadow]

google says I'm offline(like nothing will load) but dsc works perfectly?

[glass moat]

Perhaps DNS issue?

[glass moat]

Try doing like ping google.com or ping youtube.com
If neither works, then try ping 1.1.1.1
If that works, then you have a DNS issue
If none works, then you have a weird routing or config issue

[crisp shadow]

I restated the router and it worked

[tawdry pollen]

anybody know of a good proxy I can run my minecraft server through?
I'm trying to find the cheapest one that can support decently high throughput

[feral eagle]

Like a proxied domain for a local server you run?

[tawdry pollen]

correct

I'm just trying to hide my IP when hosting my own server

[feral eagle]

Well if you already have a domain through a provider you can just setup on their end. If you are trying to hide ip it might be a little more complicated.
For example I know with cloudflare it is apparently possible but you need to setup their tunnel to get the subdomain to work with a proxy. I would recommend looking up a guide for the specific provider as the process is not always the same

There are also solutions like this specifically for minecraft but it seems like it can get costly:

https://www.cloudflare.com/application-services/products/cloudflare-spectrum/minecraft/

[tawdry pollen]

sorry for late reply, things got in the way

cloudflare is probably out of the question because of the prices and small bandwidth allowance.
I don't have a registered domain currently, and I don't plan on getting a specific one unless I can find a way to get the proxy

[feral eagle]

Well the only other thing I can find remotely similar is bungeecord and its forks. Problem with trying to hide this kind of traffic is bandwidth can be very expensive

[tawdry pollen]

I found something.
Playit.gg, you can host your own game servers for free while also running it through their servers.

[feral eagle]

Yeah but those services are also limited bandwidth. They will likely throttle your connections if there are too many people using the service

[glass moat]

playit doesnt really throttle your bandwidth

but it has ok uptime

if i had to describe it, it would only be like 99% uptime

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_availability#:~:text=28.80 minutes-,99%25 ("two nines"),-3.65 days

might even be lower tbh

it's run by one guy (patrick)

[west cape]

five nines of availability

[viral fossil]

could someone help me out with my repeater?

or is this not the right channel?

[fresh matrix]

This should be the correct one

[feral eagle]

Well right away ill say that repeaters are not ideal and would work best wired

[glass moat]

repeaters will like almost double your latency

[karmic wedge]

Just make an access point and then give it the same SSID and password as your main router. Networking issues solved (I just did this for my parents' bathroom)

[noble berry]

I'm having some issues with ethernet on my pc. upload speeds are not consistent and often drop to a somewhat stable 200mbps instead of 1 gigabit. I only have this problem on my desktop pc, if I test with other devices I get reliable 1gig upload.
I've reinstalled drivers properly, restarted, but still, even with default adapter settings or by removing every power saving feature I get inconsistent upload.
any clues?

[feral eagle]

Hmm is this intel or realtek

[noble berry]

realtek gbe family controller thing

ill try safe more w network later

[humble lark]

I've got a question. Is there something i could do to route usb through different computers using lan?? My specific need is that I have a main pc and a secondary laptop that has very nice io. Things like thunderbolt and SD card readers. Id like to leave that laptop near my work desk and just be able to access everything from the main pc using something like chrome remote desktop or any other low latency software I can find BUT still be able to use the SD card slot from the laptop through the main pc. Worst case scenario I could just make a network folder each time I need to but I really don't want to do that.

[feral eagle]

Somewhat unusual request. But there is other software like parsec, moonlight/sunshine, realvnc, remote desktop, etc

Some of those might have features to mount drives, there are also hardware solutions such as pikvm, jetkvm etc that are accessed through web browser and can attach virtual media but if you were to spend money id prob say to just get a hub with the ports you want

[true venture]

Does anyone know of a Add In Card or switch I can use in order to have two different SSDs with Windows OS on them but setup so that when I use one it does not power on the other?

The goal is to be able to switch between an Overclocking and Daily Windows drive quickly without needing to change boot order or remove the other drive to switch OS.

[feral eagle]

Well you can do a dual boot like setup to switch the os. I’ve seen people use scripts in linux to automatically boot into other os without having to touch anything so maybe there is something similar for windows? Though to not power the drive at all I am not sure I have seen done before

[crisp shadow]

Can I make a nas with two hdds and a 2nd gen intel cpu?

[feral eagle]

Nas software isn’t too demanding if you are pretty much only running the storage/zfs. but your options are limited with only 2 hard drives. You pretty much can only do either raid 0 (fast but will lose data if a drive dies) or raid 1 (lose half the total raw storage but can survive a drive failure)

[glass moat]

the only limiting factor is just pcie lanes (assuming no RAID)

also number of users but 99% of people making a nas for their homelab would only have 1-2 concurrent users

[crisp shadow]

Yeah

[true venture]

Reason is that if my OC is unstable on the windows meant for overclocking I don't want to risk data corruption on the other drives

[feral eagle]

Mmm I’m not sure if I have seen something for that usecase. Might just want the pc to live on a test bench

[real jackal]

hello i was wondering if anyone can provide a good NSA to purchase. To store pictures and videos. I do not not think i will need more then 6TB for the NAS. Its fine if its diskless

[feral eagle]

How were you planning to connect to it? like via desktop computers, phones, were you looking to use it as a backup for your devices or just shared storage. Also do you know if you were looking for an off the shelf solution or something more custom?

[real jackal]

Connect via Ethernet to a router.
Preferably both phone and PC
Backup for pictures and videos
Either or no preference

[feral eagle]

so if you are tech savy what I would probably do is take an old or unused PC that has a decent number of SATA ports and space for drives and turn it into a NAS by loading an operating system like TrueNAS Scale, Unraid, etc. You don't need very powerful hardware but getting the software setup might require some technical knowledge.

The off the shelf solutions would include enclosures by companies like QNAP or Synology. People go back and forth on which is better in terms of their software and hardware. I would note that QNAP did have ransomware attack issues some number of years ago but you can mitigate such possibilities in the software. both have their own software suite accessible by web browser that have apps for managing file storage, photos, security etc. with DIY solutions there are plenty of community based software you can use (like Immich as an iCloud alternative).

I'm not sure if you plan on expanding it later but you might want to consider running a mirrored system, so you can get like 2 8tb drives and mirror them for about ~8tb of usable data. You do this so if the drive dies you still have it on the second drive.

I would do some research if you are looking into a solution like QNAP or Synology as I am not very familiar with their hardware. For a 2 bay enclosure and 2 8TB drives you would be looking at around 600-1000usd new. The drives themselves you should be able to find for around 100-200usd each@real jackal

[real jackal]

Wow this is a lot but very helpful thank you very much 🙂

[frosty light]

one thing to note about synology as of now though, their systems are being sort of "hardware locked" to use only their proprietary drives. so if you want to use their nas systems, you have to buy their drives too. they're saying that eventually they'll "certify" other brands too but as of now they are not

_
another brand you can check out is UGREEN. their specs and pricing are very competitive to everything else on the market now

[feral eagle]

I forgot to mention that, ye new synology NAS's from 2025 and after require specific drives to work, which for the moment is only their own

for those solutions I lean a little more toward qnap (also because I know some people that used it as a work server). but personally I use a custom truenas scale system

[real jackal]

thank you both for this info

[feral eagle]

sure thing, if you have any specific questions feel free to ask and we can try to answer to the best of our ability

[real jackal]

Thank you again

[feral eagle]

oh boy, I also wanted to add in a bit late, Unifi makes NAS' now too and it actually looks pretty decent for basic use and cloud connectivity but their software is still pretty early id say

[karmic wedge]

Pro tip: router in your house not reaching a particular side? Run some Cat6 to the area and place a cheap GL.iNet router at the end of it. Set the router to act as an access point and set the SSID and password as the same as your main router

I just did this about a month ago for my parents (poor signal in their bathroom). No complaints so far

[feral eagle]

Why you need wifi in the bathroom though?

I thought about getting one of their travel routers. Looked pretty cool

[noble berry]

they are indeed cool

[red girder]

What year is it?

[crisp shadow]

The year of our lord, two thousand and twenty five, anno domini.

[karmic wedge]

Yeah I fw them heavy

[karmic wedge]

Currently? 2025. The router I got? Uhhh maybe like 2023(?) I think that’s when I got it

[thorn bolt]

I just bought an HPE ProLiant DL380 Gen9 server with dual Xeon E5-2697A v4 CPUs and 64GB of RAM (no HDD) for $224.50, along with an Intel DC P3605 1.6TB PCIe NVMe SSD (98% life remaining) for $79.99.

so my total 2025 "ewaste" home server build costed $331.13 after tax

is this a steal?

not gonna cancel it tho lol

i specifically got these cpus for the higher cache and decent boost speeds while being dirt cheap still

im gonna host like a bunch of websites and a few mc servers

[feral eagle]

might need more ram for mc eventually. price sounds decent since you also got the ssd though might be able to find something slightly cheaper. I would just double check that proliant has support for nvme out of the box. these kinds of boxes aren't the most power efficient but they make since hypervisors

they usually have decent number of pcie slots and you could always try those multi nvme cards but will probably have some limitation since it's only pcie 3.0. Don't think you really need to go crazy for a system running game servers and web servers though. just enough to have some level of redundancy

[real jackal]

Silly question is it best to get two drives of the same storage, or would it be alright say if I got like one drive that is a 4tb and another that is higher then that ?

[feral eagle]

Depends how you want to set it up but generally you want the same. So 2x 4tb drives mirrored (raid 1) giving you ~4tb usable storage

[real jackal]

Ok thank you for explaining that

[real jackal]

What is a good brand for drives?

[crisp shadow]

Crucial imo, samsung

(Idk)

[real jackal]

For a nas

[feral eagle]

brands have lines specific for nas use like seagate ironwolf and wd red. really just depends on where you can find decent prices. If you are curious backblaze posts quarterly reports on their drive usage and failure rates: https://www.backblaze.com/cloud-storage/resources/hard-drive-test-data#overviewHardDriveData

[real jackal]

Thank you

[feral eagle]

oh, anyone here familar with sfp+? looking to upgrade server to 10gig but just want to make sure I am not mistaken with the compatability of the NICs and DACs

[glass moat]

SFP+ and SFP are backwards and forwards compatible afaik
Qsfp is also compatible (requires passive adapter) with SFP/SFP+

Copper sfp connectors (via RJ45) are compatible between brands afaik but for optical you should use the same brand, and make sure to get the correct range (and attenuation) to not burn out the modules from the laser being too strong
Most NICs should accept any brand of SFP module but some networking gear may require their own or specific SFP modules (e.g. cisco may need Cisco modules)

[feral eagle]

was trying to connect with a direct attach cable to a unifi sfp+ port. from what I was seeing some of the intel and mellanox pcie cards were pretty good, and I suppose a unifi DAC should be fine? unless theirs is vendor specific. it's not a far run so im prob just doing copper

[glass moat]

Direct attach should theoretically work with any vendor
I don't think those are vendor locked? Just the active ones are

Afaik those cables are just wired directly and with no circuitry

Only way they would be able to vendor lock it is by making it only work with other devices on their lineup

I don't think ubiquiti has any vendor lock

[feral eagle]

I heard warnings about some, at least with the pcie cards but I should probably confirm that

[frail trail]

what is a good website to test your internet speed

[keen scroll]

speedtest

fast

[frail trail]

do i test it on the server it picks for me

[keen scroll]

and to check your latency all over the world
https://www.meter.net/tools/world-ping-test/

[keen scroll]

u can adjust but it usually pick the nearest one

[frail trail]

Download Mbps
223.94
Upload Mbps
249.69
Ping ms 13 103 218

[feral eagle]

The loaded bit seems just a bit high but why were you testing this? Did you have a problem?

[frail trail]

im picking up my pc from microcenter today so i want ed to make sure its not too slow

[feral eagle]

Oh yeah no that speed is perfectly acceptable. Prob just want to check if the system has WiFi and if not make sure you can run ethernet to it

[frail trail]

yeah it does

The router is downstairs so I dont think i can do ethernet

i was Looking on the internet though

maybe i should buy a gaming router

[feral eagle]

Nah gaming is just fancy branding. Actually asus that makes a lot of those gaming routers is under fire rn for security vulnerabilities in their mobos and routers. Do you know the model of router you have

[frail trail]

how can i find out the model

[feral eagle]

Usually there is a label or sticker somewhere. Sometimes near where it lists the default wifi password

[frail trail]

Still here?

BGW320-500

[feral eagle]

Oh it looks like a at&t provided modem/router. probably fine for home use but if you need more advanced functionality it may pose problems

[crisp shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[crisp shadow]

Anyone else keep getting phantom messages for this channel?

[frail trail]

what's a good product to help with latency

12700KF + 7600 XT

when i'm in roblox during downloading a game the ping goes up to like 1000+

and sometimes its at 300

just want lower ping

i'm sorry what does this mean

BGW320-500, at&t

wifi

it's downstairs

https://www.amazon.com/Extender-Repeaters-Amplifier-Ethernet-Compatible/dp/B0BHX4QGMK is this good

Oh

[feral eagle]

idk if it's specific to unifi gear but apps like wifiman are good to figure out your rf environment and where you are getting bad interference

depends how bad the signal is ye

I like wifiman cuz you can make these heatmaps. Some houses may have walls that are thicker or such that can greatly reduce signal strength

as seen from the room on the bottom

Ye it gives you live stats on channels, bands, speed, latency which is nice for diagnosing issues

[frail trail]

is that your house

[feral eagle]

part of it ye, was a scan from when I was moving my wifi aps cuz i had some signal issues in some areas

lol

what the heck was that

lol

also off topic but I just discovered cloudflared tunnel so i am now in the process of switching my web servers to use that

to be able to do that and bypass port forwarding is pretty cool. but on the other hand that also sounds like a huge security problem lol. so I only set it up on an isolated network. the rest of my domains are local only with a vpn to access outside of home network

[feral eagle]

not bad

[naive bay]

Good afternoon. My name is Ed, I’m new to the form. I seek information regarding a Bluetooth extender. I have a camera surveillance system with a recorder that will be in a closet about two walls away from where I will be using a wireless mouse to control the screens and cameras.I seek a device that will enhance that Bluetooth signal to get it through the walls. Any help would certainly be appreciated.

[olive mist]

Bluetooth is terrible for this use case

I'd switch to wifi cameras

especially if you have multiple devices

[feral eagle]

So if I am understanding correctly you have recorder (NVR) in another room but you want to control it from somewhere else? If this is the case I would also check if the recorder has some kind of webui built in where you can view all the cameras and settings

[karmic wedge]

Or POE cameras if the option is there (my preference)

Something like Reolink, which is what I use

[feral eagle]

what it sounded like to me is they have poe cameras to a nvr in a closet but they are controlling the nvr with a bluetooth mouse from a different room

[glass moat]

Reolink only really works in their own ecosystem though iirc

[glass moat]

They probably should just run like usb of some sort with the cable they would need for the display anyways

[feral eagle]

I’ve seen reolink work in other systems but a lot of vendors attempt to lock into systems

[feral eagle]

That’s also what im thinking

[karmic wedge]

Darn, can't use the map function without a Ubiquiti network

The Discovery tab is still helpful. Definitely using that

[feral eagle]

Yeah. I wonder if there are other software like that which are more open

[glass moat]

That app was the best free option I've

Seen so far

Also the mapping worked for me without ubiquiti equipment

This is with my ISP router/ap and a random old D-Link router as an AP

[karmic wedge]

Yeah apparently you have to enabled the Shortcut (for iOS)

Kinda goofy. Don't know why

[glass moat]

Interesting

Not the case with Android

[feral eagle]

Smh see you should’ve got iphone

[karmic wedge]

yeah Shortcuts is an iOS and MacOS feature

(The biggest reason that's keeping me from switching)

[feral eagle]

when an app properly supports it shortcuts can be so nice

[feral eagle]

wait didn't d link have a lot of security issues recently

[glass moat]

possibly? it's only acting as an AP so it shouldn't have any issues since it's only within the LAN

and it's a private home network so it's not like random people can connect to it when the signal barely reaches the backyard

[feral eagle]

lol

[olive mist]

Is it possible to use a pfsense router as a smart switch + firewall

Thinking of getting a thin client like this and then putting nic on it

[olive mist]

I know cyberpower makes UPSs

Are their power strips any good

Mainly because well

And I have yet to plug in all my devices

Also thinking of this

Replacing two to three of my low power dc power adapters with a usb c with a couple of usb c pd adapters

ooo this is dirt cheap

[olive mist]

Thinking of making a backup server with crappy hardware I have

Probably gonna run ext4 because... This thing does NOT have enough ram to run ZFS

Although the fan on this thing is loud as hell

[olive mist]

I've just had a crazy idea

These are 2.5" drives

If I could get a laptop

That has a ODD and a sata

And preferably m.2

I could make that into a backup server

[karmic wedge]

I feel like they would be good. Their UPSs are only okay (nothing special). I mean how can you mess up a surge protector, ya know?

[olive mist]

Yeah

I don't really trust power strip on amazon

But cyberpower isn't a no name brand so I'd tend to trust them a bit more

[karmic wedge]

Yeah pretty much just look at the specs of the surge protector and make sure it's from a known brand. That's really it with surge protectors

[olive mist]

Damn

Can't find a laptop with nvme/msata and 2 hdd bays (One ODD + 1 2.5")

At least not for cheap

Kinda tempted to just... Run drives off usb

[autumn nimbus]

or ebay

or newegg

or the hardware store

dammit where DO I trust power strips...

[autumn nimbus]

I'm about to build one of them nas media servers

psu, case, dvd drive, a little ram that I have on hand

getting the rest from ebay because cheap

[olive mist]

Usually the psu and case are the most expensive part for me

That's why I go for used stuff

Psus that don't blow up and sff cases for cheap

OEM machines are great for that

[autumn nimbus]

I have a little old seasonic

only 350 watts and like 4 sata powers but I'm not gonna let that stop me

[west cape]

https://youtu.be/8_1OBOeuBsA

[karmic wedge]

lol my 16TB storage solution costed me like $600 lol. One-time purchase

$600 + some know-how that I already have = yeah that's the right way

"I'm not an IT nerd"
(Builds a whole ass NAS)
(Makes a video discussing it)

[olive mist]

server

5070

Thing's gonna rack up power bills

[autumn nimbus]

What if we wake on lan

https://tenor.com/view/overheat-computer-explosion-boom-spark-gif-17323916

[glass moat]

Nas with dGPU
🧐

[olive mist]

If they were using it for transcoding yeah

But like

Really?

The gpu's just... There

At least put in something that doesn't suck power

[glass moat]

Me when igpu is enough for most homelabs

[autumn nimbus]

I think I'm going to use the igp in the 4790 I got for transcoding if that works

I have a p600 at my grandparents' house that I could use too

My 970 would be pushing it like the 5070

Too much power

I need to learn how to reduce wattage on haswell

But also wake on lan is a good idea for home/nas/media servers right?

[olive mist]

I usually just set a max freq limit with cpupower

[karmic wedge]

Not all servers have energy consumption in mind

Honestly I wish I had the space for a whole AI rig

[real jackal]

I wonder if there is someone who can help me optimize my home network. Currently i have Xfinity wifi 300mbps. That is connected to a ARRIS (SBG10) - 400 Mbps Max Internet Speeds. That provides the internet to a TP-LINK AX6600 through Ethernet cable. Which majority items in the house are connected to that one. Then I run another Ethernet Cable which is cat 8. To a TP-Link 8 Port Gigabit Switch. From there there are 4 ports being used currently. One cable is plugged into a BlitzWolf® BW-TH13. That is used to connect to my work laptop. The second Ethernet cable is connected to a streaming PC. Third cable is connected to gaming PC. Fourth cable is connected a TP-Link Dual-Band AX3000. That is being used to provide Internet into my office for the items in there only. Which is like 3. It is also being using as a Nas sever. The USB port on the back is connected to a SABRENT 4 Port USB 2.0. That currently has one 2tb hhd, and a 1tb HDD. Maybe I am over thinking this, but I just figured I ask how to improve what I have currently. Also maybe someone can help me how I could make this into a home lab sever that would be helpful. Pictures are to follow. Thank you in advance:)

[olive mist]

holy brand name copypasta

[real jackal]

did i write too much?

[olive mist]

I'm just gonna uh

condense it down for anyone who might want to read this

[real jackal]

sorry i didn't want to leave out any details lol

[autumn nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/yume-2kki-yume-nikki-2kki-urotsuki-gif-11946404652836911351

[olive mist]

too much detail

or rather too much useless details

[real jackal]

let me edit

[olive mist]

I'll do it

[real jackal]

fixed let me know if that is better

[olive mist]

I wonder if there is someone who can help me optimize my home network. Currently i have Xfinity wifi 300mbps.
That is connected to a ARRIS (SBG10) - Cable Modem Router Combo.
That provides the internet to a TP-LINK AX6600 through Ethernet cable. Which majority items in the house are connected to that one.

Then I run a cat 8 Ethernet Cable to a TL-SG108E 8-port managed switch. From there there are 4 ports being used currently. One cable is plugged into a USB C Docking Station with M.2 SSD enclosure. That is used to connect to my work laptop.
The second Ethernet cable is connected to a streaming PC.
Third cable is connected to gaming PC.
Fourth cable is connected a TP-Link AX3000 Router.
That is being used to provide Internet into my office for the items in there only. Which is like 3. It is also being using as a Nas sever.
The USB port on the back is connected to a 4 Port USB Hub. That currently has one 2tb hhd, and a 1tb HDD. Maybe I am over thinking this, but I just figured I ask how to improve what I have currently. Also maybe someone can help me how I could make this into a home lab sever that would be helpful. Pictures are to follow. Thank you in advance:)

[real jackal]

also sorry i work as an accountant and i have been taught that my details is alwasys better lol...

[olive mist]

well

A lot of what you pasted was marketing mumbo jumbo so

the details are in there

there's just a lot of... useless information

I mean it's better than having less information

[real jackal]

ill do better in the future

promise

[olive mist]

well I mean

You have to be pretty well versed in the tech terminology to be able to cut out what's not needed

I do prefer having more detail than less

because then we wouldn't have to ask that many questions

[feral eagle]

was there something in particular you wanted to improve in the setup?

[real jackal]

sorry

[olive mist]

oh no

this is a good thing

usually people don't give enough detail

[real jackal]

well i was just wondering if how i have this set up is the correct order, or how can i make it better?

[olive mist]

Takes me like a minute to find what the info I need on libreoffice compared to the 20 trying to ask the right questions

[olive mist]

what are the different devices used for?

I assume the second router is just an AP?

ok back to libreoffice brb

[crisp shadow]

hey i need a computer part

[olive mist]

that will be one dollar

hmm

[crisp shadow]

💵 hyg

[olive mist]

are you trying to streamline your networking setup?

wait

correct me if I'm wrong

Do you have a usb hub connected to a router

[real jackal]

ideally just to improve it, and make sure if the set up is correct, or if i should moves things around

[olive mist]

and the hdds are hooked to that router?

through the hub?

[real jackal]

hopefully that make sense...