#networks-security-and-home-servers
glass moat
karmic wedge
Furry type stuff I guess
Man I could make some very NSFW jokes about that but this is Discord and this server has rules
glass moat
lmao
karmic wedge
Probably would have my whole account banned if I said that here
feral eagle
it's because I have taildrive setup on one pc but the drive share keeps resetting. is there a way to keep a folder shared at least for some period of time
not sure if that's supposed to be part of the policy file
karmic wedge
I usually never use any of the Tail-[insert service here]. I instead just do SMB shares and SSH connections as if their on my local network (only I don't put .local at the end of everything because that doesn't work)
What you could do is enable MagicDNS and access everything via hostname. Way easier this way
You could also use Pi Hole and Nginx Proxy Manager so you can query stuff like [service-name].hostname.lan. That's what I do so I don't have to do hostname:port-number
I wrote this to explain how I did it:
https://blogs.terracontents.com/blogs/2024/10-Oct/14/blog.html
I want to try Traefik though
This is on my Tailnet
@feral eagle Basically just access services as you would if they were on a local network, only don't add the .local to the end of everything
glass moat
you should be either using .arpa for your tld (e.g. epiccomputer.home.arpa) or the recently added .internal tld (e.g. epiccomputer2.internal)
karmic wedge
I've read that .lan works too
if you asked me it means basically the same thing lol
I've never had to use .lan for anything else so at least it's not conflicting
This is also only for local services that aren't exposed to the Internet
I have https://terracontents.com for stuff I publish and another domain that I'd much rather not share
Also yeah there's my real name
what's up
Man I should really update my about me page
glass moat
I've read that .lan works too
officially, you're not supposed to use anything except the reserved tlds, but in practice, you technically can use literally anything
hell, you could take google.com for your internal network
feral eagle
Lol
karmic wedge
yeah I just don't want to type in .com after any of my nodes and then apparently it's in use and it would be confusing and weird
so I just use .lan
feral eagle
I never actually setup local domains yet
I’ll try to see if smb works through tailscale. Though this was mostly for my desktop that I don’t use perma shares. I’ll try when I get home
odd epoch
yeah I just don't want to type in .com after any of my nodes and then apparently...
If you set your DNS server as authoritative then it'll override any Internet domains with the local ones
And you would also want to set your DHCP so it serves your DNS by default
karmic wedge
Sure but what if I named something "google.com"
glass moat
It would mean that you can't google something
Since the DNS server would say that google.com is your own server
feral eagle
I usually never use any of the Tail-[insert service here]. I instead just do SMB...
Btw are you able to do this over cellular?
karmic wedge
Yes
nimble sigil
Can I set it to 42069krillionare.network
glass moat
You can use quite literally anything (except for some special characters and it has to be less than 255 octets or smth like that)
For the fqdn specifically
(e.g. "google.com" is a fqdn, "support.microsoft.com" is another one)
karmic wedge
I just use .lan because it literally means your local network
glass moat
But it isn't technically correct, because only the reserved .internal or .home.arpa will be ignored by external DNS servers in case of DNS leaks or whatever
For example, .lan isn't currently a registered TLD, so every time that there's a DNS leak, the authoritative root servers will get asked "who is the authoritative name server for .lan" and then the root server would be like "idk"
Though if you do a registered TLD, like .com, that would not affect the root server and only affect the TLD server, but in that case, it's like "who is computer1.com" then it would be either like "243.64.7.49" or "idk" if that domain doesn't exist
But if you use .internal/.home.arpa and you have a DNS leak, the DNS servers are going to be like "oh that's internal DNS" and ignores it
(it's not going to be disastrous if you do use .lan, but it may be creating additional load on the name servers if you do)
odd epoch
Which is why you use a local authoritative name server
And have your DHCP give that local DNS address as the default name server
All of which can be done on a raspberry pi
dreamy aurora
Can anyone help me out with installing WiFi my motherboard comes w WiFi pero I don’t got no WiFi and Ethernet don’t work (I reinstalled windows on usb cause of malware) also I’m not sure what driver to install or which one goes with the pc
odd epoch
Can anyone help me out with installing WiFi my motherboard comes w WiFi pero I d...
What motherboard?
dreamy aurora
What motherboard?
Already got the drivers
How I instal it though
Asus setup or the drv Intel file @odd epoch ?
odd epoch
Asussetup
glass moat
i recommend enabling file extension visibility
karmic wedge
I can't stand not being able to see file extensions
glass moat
Fr
It's like putting drunk goggles on
Honestly one of the dumbest things Microsoft did
feral eagle
Alright I think it’s about time I upgrade by networking. Ive done some research but wanted to see if anyone here has any thoughts.
Rn I have a pfsense box built out of an old pc for a router, a 24 port unmanaged gigabit switch, and 2 unifi waps. I definitely need more ports, thought about doing poe to eliminate the injectors I have and possibly add cameras. I wanted to replace the current router as it takes up too much rack space and isn’t the most elegant solution. I run some public facing sites.
So basically, replace router, more ports (current on router is 3 lan), poe if possible, and possibly leave room for faster than gigabit networking.
odd epoch
What kind of budget are you looking at and how much rack space do you have
feral eagle
I have space, especially once I remove that pfsense desktop. Preferably looking to spend less than 500usd. Guess im not entirely sure if I want a all in one solution or divide it up
Oh I also have openvpn for local access on the router but was trying out tailscale as a replacement
nimble sigil
Ubituiti dream something
Their newest dream machine router thing
Does DVR and network
feral eagle
The dream thing
glass moat
a budget of 500 usd would definitely not be able to get a dream machine though
feral eagle
Actually I just started looking at their cloud gateway max, looks interesting. Nvr support, 2.5g on all 5 ports, would need a poe switch to go with it though and doesn’t fit a rack as nice as I would like. Seems ubiquiti made a lot of improvements to their software
glass moat
new at least
cloud gatway perhaps, but not the dream machine
yeah
if you want an easy all in one solution for both security and internet, ubiquiti is a solid option
otherwise, if you want a nvr setup, you'll either have to do the old style cctv wiring (huge pain) or configure a more custom (or other propritary) ip nvr system
ubiquiti wont be the cheapest option for that though
feral eagle
Kind of annoying that the ubm is still only gigabit but i mean i don’t have much devices that support higher yet and it does have sfp
nimble sigil
Just figured I'd toss it out
Idk if it's good for your case
I should look into it too
glass moat
it only supports 2tb of nvr footage though
nimble sigil
See if I can get some use out of it
glass moat
idk if that would be enough for you, depending on how long you want the footage to be kept
feral eagle
So I actually have some remains of a ip nvr system (uniview iirc) but I am unsure what works and what doesn’t work still. Also their software is not terribly friendly
nimble sigil
it only supports 2tb of nvr footage though
Is that like months?
glass moat
depends on resolution and how many cameras you have
nimble sigil
TB is still so nebulous to me for video
glass moat
i mean, if you're buying 1080p security cameras
would you really want to store the footage in like 144p
nimble sigil
Yes
I want to vaguely identify a human
That might be a dog or a skinwalker who knows
glass moat
2tb seems to be able to store 10 days of 1080p video at a reasonable framerate for cctv, with a system with 12 1080p cameras
pretty reasonable ig
nimble sigil
That's fair
Cant you set it to offload the video somewhere else too
Like a nas or something
I assume you can
glass moat
depends on if ubiquiti has software support for it
glass moat
i honestly have no clue about how ubiquiti does their NVR
i just know that's it's decent quality,
and somewhat competitive
feral eagle
Yeah from what Ive seen it looks decent
glass moat
i've been seeing more and more small/medium sized resturants use ubiquiti aps and cameras
and i'm like "huh they use ubiquiti"
ease of configuration and a single ecosystem probably helps
especially at those scales when you cant really have a dedicated IT department or even just a dedicated IT guy
feral eagle
Probably
The other main option I was looking at was mikrotik but their product line seems a bit wacky
glass moat
mikrotik makes good value switches at least
feral eagle
The prices look decent. Though I heard some complain out the software for their managed switches
glass moat
most networking equipment is meant to be configured from cli anyways
feral eagle
True
glass moat
that's kinda why ubiquiti was pretty popular with less tech savvy people
provided a usable gui, and you'll never need to use cli to configure
idek if ubiquiti even has a cli interface for configuration
practically the apple of networking lmao
they got the fancy uis
while everything else is like the linux of networking (or literally just linux sometimes in the case of routers lmao)
gui is just a suggestion 
glass moat
lmao
one saving grace is that ui is actually fairly price competitive (not that the networking market is that competitive with pricing, it's more like everyone's fighting to be more expensive ong frfr (average b2b company ong))
but for the price, it's both price competitive and even has a ui so simple that even linus knows how to use it 
i dont think linus would survive trying to mess with cisco or similar stuff
gui on those are pretty much useless
odd epoch
As a CCNA holder I can confirm the Cisco GUI is useless. I just use it for the initial setup script and then modify with CLI from there.
karmic wedge
modify with CLI
As any network technician should do
odd epoch
CLI just has more options
glass moat
or rather, cli has more options because the gui sucks
you could make a gui be able to configure every single feature
but for a product that only technicians should be configuring, and technicians are trained to configure with cli, there's no point in making a user friendly gui
feral eagle
that's true. less of a chance that someone starts playing with settings that they don't know how to use
feral eagle
welp I ended up shelling out for a udm se as impulse purchase. I try out for a week or 2 to see how stable it is
so far it's working nicely. I do like the insights it has and ips protection so far
glass moat
damn
you truly shelled out lmao
goodbye $500
tbf it's not actually that much more than the other options and you get some extra features that are... somewhat useless imo
i think poe+ isnt really a useful feature on the udm since you would normally have a PoE switch specifically for PoE devices
oh actually
i see another difference, there's 128gb built in ssd storage for nvr
feral eagle
Ye the poe is nice to have
Cameras are going to be a project to deal with. Can’t figure out how to get them to connect to anything and they apparently have no reset button even on the internal board
Also still trying to get all the vpn stuff configured. Spent about an hour today rewiring computers and removing old ones
glass moat
true venture
Hello,
Can someone help me?
I wish to run game servers like Minecraft, Ark, etc off my Windows 11 System however I keep running into a issue where the homes I move to, I cannot port-forward. Is port-forwarding a feature enabled by the router?
If so can I just buy a router that supports port-forwarding and plug that router in any home I move to so I can keep my servers running?
Please ping me when replying.
glass moat
Hello,
Can someone help me?
I wish to run game servers like Minecraft, Ark, et...
port forwarding isnt a pc feature, it's only on routers
pretty much every house only gets 1 public ipv4 address, and though the Network Address Table (NAT) the router gives internet access via private IPs to all the clients in your LAN
port forwarding basically tells your router to forward incoming traffic from the public IP to go to a private IP on your LAN (e.g. somebody trying to connect to 1.12.123.69:25565 will make your router forward to 192.168.1.15:25565)
most routers have this feature, even on ISP routers
and it's probably in the advanced settings
if you tell me which model your router is, i could probably tell you where it is
true venture
if you tell me which model your router is, i could probably tell you where it is
Let me find the model real quick.
EchoLife HG8145V5
@glass moat
It's from TotalPlay
When I am in the settings for the Forwarding Settings there is only Port Trigger bu no Port Forwarding.
I need to go, I will be back later.
Thank you for helping me out.
glass moat
i think port trigger is correct, just different wording
let me check
yeah, it's technically a bit different but serves the same purpose
or actually, port mapping might be the most accurate
i think port forwarding was the port mapping feature
karmic wedge
Hello,
Can someone help me?
I wish to run game servers like Minecraft, Ark, et...
Just use Tailscale. It's miles easier
No port forwarding needed plus it's the easiest way to learn some networking
Highly recommend (I still use it years later)
true venture
No port forwarding needed plus it's the easiest way to learn some networking
Please explain. i am interested
karmic wedge
bro look it up I'm not explaining something you can google
feral eagle
Depends how you plan on using it
karmic wedge
Please explain. i am interested
nimble sigil
I never thought about tailscale for Minecraft servers but it makes perfect sense
feral eagle
Sounds like decent solution for friends
karmic wedge
That's what I do all the time
I only just configured my ACLs so I'm only exposing my Minecraft servers on the server node as well 💀
my example ACL
I have a section specifically for Minecraft. You could actually put whatever server and services' IP and port for whatever you're sharing to the autogroup:shared group
I don't have any other user than just myself in my Tailnet. I only share my nodes out to my friends lol
true venture
Thank you I will check out Tailscale once I have a moment to read through it.
waxen ridge
What router and modem would you guys reccomend for Gigabit internet?
boreal sparrow
What router and modem would you guys reccomend for Gigabit internet?
For most people the router provided by your internet provider and a mesh network from the likes of tp link or something is the best setup
glass moat
nearly anything made in the last 10 years probably will be fine
glass moat
Technically not mesh routers since only one of them would be acting as a router, and the other is just a mesh node/AP
junior mulch
Mesh network for sure
Then use lower speed QoS to tune your latency and focus on good house coverage
glass moat
Rereading this, both Pato and wideus recommend the same thing lmao
junior mulch
Oh I did read it
I'm also recommending it
For peer pressure reasons
There is simply nothing better that isn't wired
glass moat
Lmao
That wasn't in response to you that was just me speaking to myself while also broadcasting my realization to the chat lmfao
junior mulch
Well I'm also here and narcissistically making it about me and you have no choice 💀
I need to live up to my profile picture
junior mulch
@waxen ridge real talk though I bring receipts
This was over wifi and mesh ±2ms (I've since reduced this 2ms further)
Mesh is OP
Very little work, just make sure the routers are good enough
Wifi 5+ meshing is OP
(I'm upgrading to 6 to make it a little lower)
Can have really really fast low latency network for just the price of good routers
I use nighthawk rebrands
Though there are many better alternatives than what I use
glass moat
Nah you should spend $10000 on cisco frfr
junior mulch
Lmao
I will however openly recommend to check out something called the waveform bufferbloat test
It tells you if your own network has lots of latency
glass moat
That will get you like 1 router
1 switch
And maybe one or 2 aps frfr
junior mulch
Or if the IP speeds are causing slow down based on your network configuration
This one test helped me significantly with my new network
I used to use another tool that's now retired afaik
glass moat
Or you could be lazy like me and not bother because the latency is low enough for home use and nobody is competitive gaming in my house anyways
glass moat
That's actually crazy
junior mulch
Yes cos they throttle hard here
glass moat
My "I don't really care" solution is a score of b on that site lmao
Mainly due to upload latency iirc
But damn 2 seconds is craxy
💀
junior mulch
Ye
I put speed caps on my network so it doesn't experience throttle
It gets some jitter, I still need to work on that
But a properly tuned network will not only have low latency but also download/upload won't be this up/down sinusoidal curve
It'll be a consistent line if you haven't got a good provider
/hardware
undone thicket
My pc is having weird internet issues, and all of the sudden roblox has bad fps issues, brawlhalla constantly goes in and out with the internet, changed my internet router but smae thing, its not my internet because my phone and ps5 doesn't do this, and I've no clue how to fix it
timber rover
Just curious, do some people here actually carry certs? (comptia, for example)
odd epoch
Yes
Personally I'm Net+, Sec+, CCNA, MCSE current. I let a few less valuable ones expire.
glass moat
i've been studying for CCNA and CWNA though i got no certs asides for forklift and WHIMIS 
nimble sigil
Forklift is all you need
keen scroll
Whenever i see networking xD i always think ponzi schemes 😆
glass moat
karmic wedge
Bot
glass moat
🙂
supple vine
Hello everyone, hope this is the right place to ask about something like this, but I'm looking into some potential new routers. I currently have a Netgear Nighthawk XR1000 which i have learned was a huge mistake. Bought it years ago and didnt wanna part with it since it was a decent amount of money. Now that i pay for 1gig speeds im tired of the router not getting those speeds no matter how much i tinker with it. Will get those speeds when hooked up to the modem directly however. I just want something that can handle high speed internet for gaming. My ping has always been above average in games for some reason despite my friends having the same network provider down the street and not having this issue. Something best bang for buck would be nice. Nothing above 300$ preferrably. Any suggesstions would be much appreciated. 🙂
glass moat
Hello everyone, hope this is the right place to ask about something like this, b...
You gaming on wifi or wired?
glass moat
Hmm
supple vine
this router has be nothing but hell lol. I used to have to reset it daily as it would just start dropping
factory resets, firmware updates, etc
hasnt been too bad lately but i want my full speeds lol
and better ping if a router can fix that
glass moat
https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat try running this test
glass moat
Yeah for the sqm
glass moat
It takes like 2 minutes to finish I think
Warming up shouldn't take long (I believe it's just loading things to transfer to measure loaded latency)
junior mulch
It sometimes doesn't immediately trigger
Sounds like you have a similar issue to what I did
Which means you need to employ sqm/qos shaping to fix your ping via the nighthawk connected to the isp router
glass moat
No way
A Felix problem that someone else had
I never thought I'd see the day
junior mulch
junior mulch
No way
A Felix problem that someone else had
I never thought I'd see the day
I'M HUMAN TOO YOU KNOW
REAL
HUMAN EMOTIONS
glass moat
I'M HUMAN TOO YOU KNOW
glass moat
glass moat
Fun fact while you wait
The name of the loading icon is called a throbber
Now you know
supple vine
this website hates me or something
trying a different browser
plan might be a bust
glass moat
I'll be going to sleep now lol
There's probably some guide for your router to enable sqm
supple vine
have a good night lol
oh its finally working
looked up something in another tab and it started for some reason
well this is nice
Had congestion control turned off so i turned it on and still got this
junior mulch
Yeah you have a throttling issue
It doesn't look too bad, but playing with some settings, prioritising game devices, you'll be flying
Nowadays adaptive QoS, QoS shaping, SQM, game device lists (not the same as static ip) is the type of stuff you want to focus on
Bufferbloat tests also do invoke the router to slow down as they're quite smart these days to pick up on lag
Those ping spikes definitely can improve though
Faster DNS is another one
These sorts of things (bar the game devices and dns) are a bit of a "test and feel" type deal
So there's not particularly any easy solution unless you dosh it out for a nice switch
And btw saying all this, I'm about like
Ankle deep in this stuff
Nothing compared to the other guys
So take some of the stuff I say with a chance of a grain of salt
But the tests look very similar to the problems I had
junior mulch
So just to clarify
When telcos sell "a gig" they mean up to a gig
So loaded times of day, you can get variable speed
The latency however
Wtf
That def needs work
supple vine
yeah, only have to match 80% legally from what im aware
junior mulch
Ye
Or stated otherwise for busy times
So can you have a look on your router, see if you can find any of the settings I listed
supple vine
it has QOS
junior mulch
You may also need to do this for the isp one, or you can copy the net settings to the nighthawk and bypass
supple vine
ive tried tinkering with it before but never seen anything crazy good
junior mulch
Oooo
Ok that looks like adaptive
Have you tried putting games at the highest
Man I just cannot type rn
supple vine
ive had it way higher than the other stuff before
junior mulch
Try setting it like this
Gaming highest
Streaming 2nd
Voip 3rd
Net browsing 4th
Large downloads 5th
Try and sort set up that whole list to resemble that more or less
For testing you'll bump net browsing to 1st priority
supple vine
hate how these sliders work
junior mulch
Streaming and media should be about the same
Messaging down near the bottom above web
But web up top for now
Then set your speeds to be about, let's say for now, be really extreme
70% of each
Compared to your normal full
Then, try some of these tests again, see if it made an impact
Odds are this may help, and if it does, it may also not be the only fix needed
supple vine
currently no
junior mulch
Ok easy, we can just do that for now
supple vine
running the bufferbloat test thingy
junior mulch
Then set the speed caps (important) to 70-ish %
And yeah test
The thing with throttling is it will only happen when the devices can tell you're trying to go too fast
So they will impose a slow down penalty
And that penalty is the lag basically
Again, you may also need to do this for the isp router, OR
Copy the isp settings to the night hawk, bypass the isp router
If you have dual wan on the nighthawk you can add the mobile isp backup to the nighthawk later
You use a different port for that
junior mulch
That's a alot better lad
It's already better
Try that ping test you did
That unloaded is really high tho
So we def should use caps
I don't recall having an unloaded issue so you may need to ask someone else about that
junior mulch
I can also suggest checking out r/homelab for extra help btw
Great reddit
Super helpful community
junior mulch
Already looking nicer
Let's put caps below those speeds
So aim for like
400 mbps download, 150 upload
supple vine
so sad
junior mulch
It's just how it is lad
supple vine
super bad rn for some reason
junior mulch
YESSS
It's getting better
Cap the download more
Bring it way down
400mbps
Try again
I highly suggest investigating that unloaded ping at some stage, asking in here about that or in r/homelab, you'll get good help I'm sure, but for now, fixing the bloated ping is a big plus
I'm not aware of what to do on that side of it
But we'll keep going with QoS for now
supple vine
applying settings
junior mulch
Also beware, keeping some apps open (even discord) can affect this
So try not to leave anything open while testing
It can directly impact results
junior mulch
applying settings
Do both that 26000ms ping test and the bufferbloat one
supple vine
supple vine
junior mulch
Mmmm
The unloaded came down a bit
Interesting
So qos only have the fix then
Ok
Can you try copying your isp router settings to your nighthawk, for the WAN settings
So basically the settings that make up what your internet service credentials are
supple vine
when you say isp router
junior mulch
Copy them from the isp modem to the nighthawk, and have it connect straight to the wall
supple vine
should i have one of those
junior mulch
They didn't give you one?
junior mulch
Yeah ok
supple vine
would have cost more a month
junior mulch
Can you bridge that modem
Ah
Ok so I'm assuming then you can't edit anything on it?
supple vine
im honestly not sure
junior mulch
If it's just there as a bridge then that's good enough
supple vine
coaxial goes to modem and ethernet goes to router and ethernet goes to pc
junior mulch
Ah so it's basically into the wall
Ok
So no extra modem at all
Ok, so did you set up the internet settings on the nighthawk then?
supple vine
i did yes
junior mulch
They gave you a specific list ye?
supple vine
not that i am aware of lol
junior mulch
Fascinating
Ok I'd go googling for that
And when you find them (sometimes on a random website) set your DNS specifically to
1.1.1.1
Secondary 1.0.0.1
supple vine
LOL
supple vine
what should i search exactly?
junior mulch
If that's enough, the extra latency should drop right off
junior mulch
what should i search exactly?
[telco name] internet settings
Something like that
It'll give you a list
Like
"automatic IP"
"pppoe"
Dns this
Gateway that
But we will use a manual (FAST AF BOIS) DNS
They may also have a login setting you should copy too
I imagine since this looks like fibre, we're likely looking at pppoe but take my word with a grain of salt
supple vine
i found 2 websites that might have it but im not sure
cant find it on these so nvm
lists a bunch of modems with their usernames and passwords
but my modem isnt there
junior mulch
Yeah it may take a bit of looking
Keep trying for a few more minutes, if we turn up nothing, we can move ahead without for now
junior mulch
Lol
Well if you can't find it, jump to your internet settings
And override the dns settings
Use 1.1.1.1
& 1.0.0.1
Apply those
Then try test again
They're cloudflare servers just for context
supple vine
"Spectrum Internet users are assigned a dynamic IP address. With Dynamic DNS (DDNS), you can register a domain name that updates automatically when your IP address changes. People who want to access cameras, computers or DVRs remotely often use DDNS."
junior mulch
You don't need ddns
Just automatic ip
Basically
Use the dns settings I gave
Test again
Dns is basically an address for what your devices are told to connect to in order to initiate a download
Isp ones are often rubbish
junior mulch
The google ones are pretty good too yeah
supple vine
should i go back and turn that off since ive done it on the router
supple vine
i cant ping google anymore lol how am i typing in discord
running a speed test and my ping on my work laptop jumped a bunch lol
junior mulch
You may need to disconnect and reconnect your device
If it assumes the old DNS it'll get muddled up
If that doesn't work go to windows settings and under your internet connection set the dns settings I gave you manually to the device as well
That should clear it up
If not save and reboot everything try again
supple vine
ping working again
junior mulch
Alr lol
supple vine
we gonna cry
supple vine
well the router one wasnt google i went into my adapter settings and changed the ipv4 dns to google on my pc
junior mulch
Lmao
Try going back to QoS settings
Pull the download side down some more
If no change
Put it way back up to like 700mbps
If no change, roll back to google dns
Then we look at sqm solutions
Now sqm, leaves the point where I think I can be helpful
SQM is great in that it manages the speeds and prioritises avoiding throttling ping
And having a bit of that like we saw earlier, leaves me to believe this
supple vine
this is back at 70%
junior mulch
Ooo
Ok so speeds are adjusted a bit better again
But we still have a second layer issue there
Was the ping still bad at lower speed?
So like, 250mbps?
junior mulch
Yeah I get the feeling there's still an sqm issue
You can go back to google dns if you prefer
I'd ask the others here about what to do for sqm firmware (either for your nighthawk) or maybe a dedicated sqm switch in between
r/homelab will also help a lot for that
And just bare in mind btw
supple vine
its supposed to have built in SQM
junior mulch
We may have mostly already fixed it
Oh interesting
Have you enabled it?
Or is that congestion control
supple vine
i honestly have no clue, never even heard about SQM until today
but this bufferbloat test website suggests getting this router for that reason
junior mulch
And just bare in mind btw
Just bare in mind btw, we are probably already at the point of fixing the problem, bufferbloat tests also provoke routers these days to impose a buffer regardless, so you may find just trying to game rn might be perfectly fixed
junior mulch
but this bufferbloat test website suggests getting this router for that reason
Fascinating
Worth looking to see if it's in the settings
Enabling it will help a lot
supple vine
i tried looking for it but it might burried or something
junior mulch
i tried looking for it but it might burried or something
It can have different names
Have to do specific reading of each setting
supple vine
google dns
junior mulch
google dns
Try rebooting everything when you do that, it can mix everything up
Also make sure you have all dns settings correct, device and router
The device should auto to it but yeah
If it's manual it'll slow down if incorrect
junior mulch
If you can get it back to this, try gaming for a bit, see if it's better
If not, or not good enough (it should certainly be better) we look at sqm
Remember to set your gaming as #1 priority in qos
supple vine
right
junior mulch
And just see how well it goes for 5 minutes
If it's basically perfect (let's assume, 40ms?) nice
But we can still improve I think
For one getting most of your speed
But also american latency should be lower
Like 10 in games to american servers lol
But this will be a good start
supple vine
will give everything a try and let you know what happens later
junior mulch
Sure
But yeah if you can get it good enough like this, fantastic,
But if you need more help with sqm, I won't be able to do much
I am literally a week ahead with regards to that stuff
supple vine
better than nothing lol
junior mulch
So the other guys or r/homelab would be the best places to ask
supple vine
Gotcha gotcha
supple vine
i get 40+ ping in valorant always. My friends who lived down the street with the same service got 20+
supple vine
would be nice lol
junior mulch
See how we go
supple vine
Im gonna double check for firmware, factory reset, and re-apply our settings once im done with work in 30 minutes
supple vine
all good, appreciate all the help
junior mulch
Either way yeah, messing with what I showed you, the general idea if we don't need a separate sqm box/firmware
There may still be something else
I'm not smart enough to know
supple vine
when i was looking up the router online it was a ton of people complaining about it lol
junior mulch
Oh yeah
supple vine
after i bought it of course
supple vine
people online are saying its supposed to be lol
junior mulch
Well I don't believe them
@glass moat said that to me then I WENT THROUGH HELL
REEEEEE
supple vine
LOL
junior mulch
The tl;dr is tech is fickle af
Something slightly wrong
Big problem
It happens in all of it
So yeah "It just works" is always the stupid answer
Very few things are genuinely like that
If it was, tech support wouldn't exist
junior mulch
Oh neither
I've always had net issues
And I'm always learning I can be less stupid
junior mulch
Even now I'm still calling with my new net cos 2 muggins in my government net service can't flick a switch nor show me how to
I'm missing 2/3 my net speed on a new fiber plan
Lmfao
And it is certainly a switch they won't flick
2 weeks so far
2 weeks of regular calls
supple vine
hate network providers so much
junior mulch
Here's the irony
If they just, did proper sqm on their line conditioning
Most of this annoying bs would likely not exist at all
People could all likeliness actually plug and play
supple vine
why would they do that
junior mulch
Oh idk, $50 per line to fix all the latency is too much money ig
So weird to me
Though because of that I'm now too smart for their own good
Can't leave me on the wrong speed now
I now know all things
junior mulch
I'll reverse the buffer
SEND IT TO THEM
THEY'LL LAG ALL THE WAY TO MY HOUSE
JEEVES, GET TO THE ESCAPE SUB
supple vine
You show them Felix
supple vine
Right after a firmware update and a factory reset of settings with no settings changed
junior mulch
Fascinating
Try set the game devices as priority now then try gaming
See if it's a lot better
supple vine
Doing the dns right now
junior mulch
Ye ye
supple vine
cloudflare
junior mulch
Cloudflare or google, whichever you prefer, can see is faster
Both are good
You can use a dns checklist to see what's closer to you (Check the background history of these and make sure it's a safe one, like, ofc, google or cloudflare)
There's a small possibility a local one could be even better but those two are generally accepted
junior mulch
No
supple vine
dang it i forgot to take a picture of my port forwarding. Oh well havent been using it recently anyways
junior mulch
Don't use forwarding
It's insecure and what we're doing is basically identical
But better
supple vine
i port forwarded through tcp shield
junior mulch
Not sure what that is
supple vine
for minecraft servers
junior mulch
I just know that you can't really do both
junior mulch
You can set a static ip on the device in windows
It's port forwarding but backwards if you have any priority lists
I mean anyway I'm not the smartest at this
Try it with and without
If it's the same, meh
Better, go with better
Having a middleman service like that tho I imagine should have a degree of latency impact tho
Since it'll definitively be another "Hop"
Which also is seeming to do security
supple vine
Well it was just for minecraft servers
which i havent run in a while
worked really well though
did a decent amount of looking into stuff for that
junior mulch
Fair enough
Keep it handy for that ig
For just gaming tho I'd be just seeking a clear solution on that rn even if it means turn that stuff off
supple vine
okay so when i pull a slider it changes the other sliders. they are percentages. What do you recommend i do?
junior mulch
Gaming highest
streaming video 2nd highest
voip 3rd(4th)
Web 5th
Big downloads, server hosting 6th
Type of arrangement
For testing, you can just do gaming highest for now
junior mulch
Alr
junior mulch
If it's basically perfect (let's assume, 40ms?) nice
👀
Oh wait you had 40+ before right
supple vine
yeah
it kicked me out of the game because apparently i forgot to enable secure boot on my new MB
junior mulch
Lol
DRM moment
Yeah should have that on if it's not already
Interesting
Ok a bit of reading tells me that congestion control is the router's sqm implementation
So it's a matter of playing with more settings on it then
supple vine
wish there was more i could mess with
junior mulch
I would consider asking others about this if we can't really get any further here
I only know so much unfortunately
supple vine
Felix youre supposed to be that master of all Tech Elements
supple vine
too bad my timing was bad and they went to sleep
supple vine
watching us struggle
junior mulch
My demise
Watching us writhe
Anyway some general points
Fast DNS = good
Congestion control, needs to run to approx. 80, 90% ish of your typical speed
But it may need to be lower to have low latency
Remember the priority lists I gave
supple vine
have it at 80 currently
supple vine
yeah of 1gbps but i guess ill change it to my typical speed
but then again
i have no idea what that is since it changes every minute it seems
junior mulch
Try one more arbitrary set of numbers for me
junior mulch
Right after a firmware update and a factory reset of settings with no settings c...
see this
Try 500-ish down
24 up
See if that improves everything
I'm a bit spaghetti-ing the numbers on this last one but lets see
If it's still showing similar results, we're missing a setting
Maybe even a firmware issue
supple vine
from my speed tests in december my average download was 459.4642742
avg upload was 382.0052328
supple vine
yep lol
junior mulch
So throttle down below what you had above that I linked, with those speeds in mind
junior mulch
Oh
supple vine
fake as in im not actually getting that lol but i should be
junior mulch
Chat and message higher than file share
Other than that, looks good
OH
Do it for both upload and download
I can only see download there
More weighting for upload side
To games
supple vine
junior mulch
Better yeah
supple vine
just copy to upload?
supple vine
or should upload have a different weight to things
supple vine
junior mulch
Looks good
supple vine
this is what it normally looks like lol
supple vine
i mean in terms of valorant yeah
only really tested that the one other time though
currently doing the bufferbloat test
junior mulch
A little worse yeah
Drop the download buffer again
This time
150
Let's be ridiculous about it
supple vine
ill never be able to download games again lol
supple vine
do the slider or the speed
supple vine
so 80% of 150 or 150 of 500
junior mulch
just 150 flat
Once that test is done have a read of this
Maybe 100% 98% is the play
junior mulch
ive looked at so many of those and found nothing
The annoying thing about networking is changing these things can help but without finding the parent issue it looks like nothing is any better
If that makes sense
Masked issue from looking in the wrong place
supple vine
I mean this router is just doo doo
theres stuff with this router theyve said they are fixing for like that past 2 years
on the 150 download
i also lowered upload some
junior mulch
Move the download slider up to 100% and try again
The download bloat looks so similar to what I had but I fixed it by getting custom SQM firmware
It looks close
As I said before, another possible issue in the back somewhere
supple vine
100% of 500
supple vine
do we do both 980?
junior mulch
1000 980
Or leave download
Just leave download as is
Lol
upload 980
If that works, then there's likely something else impacting your bloat on download
Which may well be better router firmware needed
Or something else altogether
supple vine
i set it to 98 but it went back to 100 for some reason and heres the results
makes no sense
hate netgear
junior mulch
LMFAO
Hahahahaha
@glass moat I CAN HEAR YOU LAUGHING AT OUR PAIN
Ok genuinely wondering
Ask the others
Go check with r/homelab too
supple vine
who are the others lol
junior mulch
See if buying an sqm switch to put in between the wall and nighthawk works
The others in here
343, Fal, others
supple vine
might just have to go to sleep and see if anyone reads through all of this junk and has suggestions in the morning
junior mulch
Fair enough
junior mulch
Either way this was a great demonstration of darwinism
glass moat
LMFAO WHAT IS THIS MENU 😭
The radar chart for QoS 💀
glass moat
<@297812853174566913> said that to me then I WENT THROUGH HELL
It's plug and play when you just ignore all the issues
glass moat
I bet he's still around
I fell asleep probably like 2 minutes after I said I was gonna sleep lmfao
Well, one thing we could try is to flash the firmware/OS of the router to switch it to use DDWRT or OpenWRT
There is a bit of a risk with this though
If for whatever reason the update gets interrupted, the router will become bricked
odd epoch
I was just looking that up, router isn't supported by cfw
Closest supported model is the XR700 by dd-wrt
No XR1000
odd epoch
If for whatever reason the update gets interrupted, the router will become brick...
You can fix this with a little command line wizardry usually too
glass moat
Well, there goes that idea since there no support lmao
Unless someone knows how to add support to it
odd epoch
I mean... I could edit the kernel, that is within my abilities, but I would not feel confident sending that off to someone without testing
glass moat
Fair
odd epoch
Also I'm not entirely sure dd-wrt ever fixed their 6GHz issues, where that band just doesn't work
glass moat
It's plug and play when you just ignore all the issues <:smart:79680901972125286...
Honestly, out of everything tech I've used, the only thing that has been pretty much plug and play was ironically a VR device
The valve index just needs to have at least one base station plugged in, ideally above your height, and you run room setup once, and pcvr just works (until amd drivers break it and you have to roll back)
odd epoch
this is why I never update my drivers
glass moat
You might think that Facebook/meta is more plug and play... Which is kinda is if you play standalone, but the amount of tinkering that I've seen people have to do to get it to work properly for pcvr is crazy
rare spire
Facebook 
odd epoch
I can't seem to find what SoC the XR1000 uses so I can't add it to the kernel if I wanted to. Which is probably why it isn't already in there.
All I can really find is "1.5GHz tri-core processor" (which is honestly pretty weak these days anyway)
junior mulch
All I can really find is "1.5GHz tri-core processor" (which is honestly pretty w...
Thx
My routers are offended
odd epoch
They should be, my 8 year old $100 tp-link is 2.4GHz
odd epoch
Even if you add the cores GHz together (which is very much not how that works) 3x 1.5 is still less than 2x 2.4
odd epoch
WHY WON'T THIS TAPE STICK
More felix problems? Broke the streak again ig
junior mulch
I CAN'T GET ELECTRICAL TAPE TO STICK
feral eagle
Honestly, out of everything tech I've used, the only thing that has been pretty ...
The one device I have where I just pick it up and use it without issue is steam deck for me
junior mulch
IT'S THE STICKIEST YUCKIEST CRAP WON'T EVEN TRY FOR SOME REASON
glass moat
You need electricity to make the electrical tape to stick obviously
glass moat
junior mulch
Even if you add the cores GHz together (which is very much not how that works) 3...
Tmw fal learns IPC
odd epoch
Tell me what SoC it is and we can talk IPC
odd epoch
For all we know they're using salvaged phenom x3 processors
junior mulch
What are you trying to stick onto??? Teflon???
TAPE
TAPE TO TAPE
GFLUE TO FFFF GLUE
glass moat
wHAt
junior mulch
WHY'S IT SLIDIN
Holy hell
It took ten minutes
3 freaking centimeters
Electrical tape
No stick
Wtf is that
glass moat
How
junior mulch
IDFK WHY
odd epoch
I sent prayers, where's my SoC
junior mulch
I sent prayers, where's my SoC
PUT A SOC IN IT I'M WORKING
STUPPID TAPE
Omfg now I can't screw straight
End me
junior mulch
Omfg
Finally
The laptop is closed up
Ok
Let me just connect it to wifi rq
Gotta stay on topic
Wtf @odd epoch my cpus are ancient
They support wifi 6E tho
supple vine
looks like there was no fix for this stupid router.
junior mulch
Hmm
Brb
Interesting
@odd epoch
Look up
Broadcom BCM6750
It's what the XR1000 uses
It's the same SoC that my own routers use
That's really ironic
@supple vine I'm now wondering if you can maybe flash ASUS merlin lmfao
supple vine
<@131106658242789376> I'm now wondering if you can maybe flash ASUS merlin lmfao
Why would I do that to ASUS Merlin.
Jk
supple vine
No Felix it was a joke about flashing
supple vine
Lolll
supple vine
Understandable
supple vine
Electrical tape not sticking to itself is wild
junior mulch
Hmmge
Apparently we break the law if we try flashing merlin
They'll be knocking on ur door
supple vine
Lovely
supple vine
Netgear 