adventures

[balmy helm]

ahhh thanks

[void nova]

Well, that depends. Usually the most important thing is not to fail the boss, because boss chest is the best one, and also a boss kill counts towards the long-term quests. But if you are fairly sure you can clear one extra camp on your path without compromising the boss safety, and you're not sure if your guild mate just walks off the track, then by all means, do it 🙂

[silk parrot]

yeah that is true but sometime some guy fails and 1 will do boss and 2nd guy can get extra points

[silk parrot]

we do like that usually if some fails

[void nova]

For example there is a detour possible in level 9 for either side, costing 2 moves to get one more camp, allowing up to 740/700 points. But it will result in a situation where (if no defeats happened) there are only two attacks against the boss. That's why most strategies prefer to save the actions where possible and have more attacks against the boss, leaving the remaining actions as a reserve for some defeats that may happen.

[silk parrot]

my mate failed 1 attack in adv 11 so I captured 1 extra and my mate killed boss like this

but in adv 10 I guess mistake leads to 3 chest only

[void nova]

Good thing #18 doesn't buff the boss, I guess. And good thing you went for Hericus#1 rather than Solfors. Though I think it makes more sense for the bottom path to clear 18 than some other random camp.

[silk parrot]

yeah 18 buff but I did another I don't worry about that I just want 4 chests

[silk parrot]

if 18 would have buff the boss then I had cleared 18 instead of 10

[void nova]

That depends ... but in the usual strategies it does. I made a strategy that allows one defeat on any of the three paths, but there are 3 camps with an eye buff aiming at them. In level 13 version, the buffs are +300% damage (x2) and +500% healing.

[silk parrot]

yeah you are right

I am starting adv 13 after ToP event

[void nova]

You still took the riskier path, considering it's 2 AP lost on either detour and you were taking #14 while it was still buffed. Moreover, detour through #18 also allows clearing #19 before going back on your path.

There are also some different level 11 strategies that have different path for first player than a rectangular one. I made one of these myself, though I'm not the only one.

[silk parrot]

ohh no worry I can easily win buff in adv 11 . buffed boss is riskier

adv 12 buffed is hard

[silk parrot]

ohh can you send me path that doesn't have rectangular path? Thanks!!

[void nova]

Yeah ... for example this one for a bit of self-promo 🙂 https://hero-wars.fandom.com/wiki/Adventures/11

I also made Spiral, and on this website there is a different one (though it requires yellow to beat a buffed squad). https://oaslo.com/en

[silk parrot]

ok not bad that mid guy will too have extra moves and if green fails 1 or 2 then blue can get nice I like this one

[silk parrot]

Thank you so much!!

[void nova]

The strategy on Oaslo website is also quite good. It may have all the downsides of my strategy and one more on top, but it actually takes 1 more camp in general, aiming for 680 points. If the center player loses one fight, nothing changes for the sides.

It only leaves #7 and #24 alive.

[silk parrot]

yeah I saw mid will have 2 xtra moves

I usually do mid rectangular path and go to sleep next morning my guildmate had finished other when I wake up and then boom just claim and raid and do same every evening

also if someone invite me then I will join like shown upper to correct

[void nova]

Well, mid with 2 extra moves is the fairly usual, Hericus #1 or DeuxBits (basically a mirror form of Hericus strategy). Though the 2 extra moves require one side to sacrifice their 2 moves, and it leaves only room for 1 defeat.

The second map on Oaslo would allow 2 defeats if yellow also takes #7 and ends the path on #40 ... that would mean yellow and blue have room for no error at all. Getting 2 defeats in general is not good.

[silk parrot]

ohh ok

[silk parrot]

yes that mid I used to take too but I can clear easily for me no worry

[void nova]

I kinda like my InsideTheBox for level 11, it allows some extra safety. Though if orange fails two, blue needs to be a strong player that can overkill it, because in that case blue actually has to fight a buffed up enemy.

But I don't play this strategy much, as it's very interactive, requiring the players to be online at the same time.

[silk parrot]

yes exactly I will follow route which you gave me in adv 13 that will be good for us

because if mid got 2 mistake then we are gone so also adv 13 is hard so your guide will help a lot

[void nova]

The "old" level 11 strategies that everyone knows are not interactive at all, meaning that first player just does the center rectangle and the other two deal with the sides in any order. We usually go for it for the convenience.

[silk parrot]

yes true

in this same lvl too mid can go alone but others need to know about path

now I have to tell my guildmate about that path

[void nova]

And I also made some non-interactive level 12 strategies, because I didn't like Solfors much. On the picture, there is the advanced one, which allows 2nd player to kill the boss. https://hero-wars.fandom.com/wiki/Adventures/12

Anyway, thanks for the chat, g2g 🙂

[silk parrot]

ok Welcome!

[rocky blade]

I think you should draw with a straight path between each position, you're trying to follow the drawn path very precisely but it's not useful and confusing actually. Also I'd prefer a mark for each stop (like a small circle ?), actually a number would even be better in my view, but if not at least disambiguate as explicitely as possible where the stops are.

[void nova]

I kinda followed the approach of most people in level 11. I'm not planning to redraw this anytime soon.

Then again, I didn't fill in the numbers of the steps / the squads.

[gusty lichen]

500k team for adventure 12?

[near radish]

12 is more about ability to deal with 90% dmg reduction buff than just power number

and other players joining - with 2 strong enough it is possible to leave 6 or 7 easy targets for weakest one...

with proper setup and path selection it is possibl to clear it with a team below 450k... but if you do it wrong 600k may be not enough

[void nova]

Yeah, I think I first tried when I was a bit above 400k and I did somewhat OK. Though, creating Spiral strategy sure helped 😄

[rocky schooner]

Is this even normal??

Since when was alter orion like this??

[void nova]

I think it is quite normal, corrupted Orion throws longer volleys. Dorian can help if your heroes can deal sufficient damage to heal back up. Other than that, hard to tell what to recommend here. Perhaps for the previous players not to steal magic defense buff from you as you might need it against the boss.

[gleaming sage]

I often do one shot with issac jhu martha arache rufus

[void nova]

I think Arachne is not very useful against bosses. They have 80% (or maybe more?) control effect duration reduction. However, the rest of the team seems good, including Rufus who doesn't speed it up, but adds a lot of survivability.

I usually just use a similar team as Tafy, but with a lot more power, so I can kill even 13-11 with ease.

[void nova]

One raw idea from a chat in #💬general message

Looks like an interesting fun path, though it doesn't really have much added value.
14 steps for red, 12 steps for yellow and 10 steps for blue. But it's very interactive.

Maybe for having fun with friends, cool. For a daily driver strategy, bad idea.

[golden notch]

man oh man i'll save my gp's here

[brave coral]

I have got 0 in three years. Now I have the first pets at absolute star and still no grand prize. Maybe I will get one if they all have 6*...

[void nova]

I got one in 3 years and a half. But I have all pets all-star anyway 🙂

[unreal gyro]

wow when did u get that

[golden notch]

Albus in 2023
Oliver in 2024 and
Fenris in 2025 just today

[unreal gyro]

nice I got albus in 2025 and that's it

[unreal gyro]

hopefully you get something in 2026

[void nova]

Luck plays some role in this game for sure ... but I like how adventures require some skill.
Well at least they used to - level 12 is easy to do with a weird mixed team and level 13 is probably also doable with that more often than not ... Anyway, a good strategy is still useful, and that's why ... most people use Solfors 😬 🤪

[rocky blade]

First time trying to kill the boss in 13/9 with the tank buff +300% and corrupted galahad just destroyed my whole team. My plan was that Aurora dodge would protect my team from his attacks, but I just got massive damage even when I had 4 Aurora dodge bonus cumulated. Checking I see 90k pure damage for each hit of his swords (at starts, it gets worse when he has several ult active, go to 117k then 143k), given how many there is, he's just destroying my whole team with the pure damage, nothing else.
What's the solution ? Against Corvus with 250% health I use Orion with Dorian, but here the size of the damage was stunting and incapaciting my heros, so unsure Dorian will solve it.

[near radish]

my solution for boss in 13/9 is jhu with few boosters:

[rocky blade]

Are mojo and satori there for more than decoration ?

[near radish]

what matters in this team is jhu, baby mojo for some bonus magic dmg, baby dorian to give jhu some hp buffer in case of stun

[rocky blade]

I see, I was forgetting Mojo's damage bonus. And jhu's is inside Dorian's aura from start on that configuration ?

[near radish]

thea is just for her speed boost on low hp but can be relaced with any baby hero behind dorian

satori - can be replaced with any baby hero in front of jhu - his role is just to take 1-2 hits and give jhu a bit of time to charge some energy

[rocky blade]

The speed boost is still active after she's dead ?

[near radish]

also satori and thea are used for postioning jhu and dorian so jhu is in vampiric aura

[near radish]

yes - same as dorian's aura and mojo's dmg buff

all heroes other than jhu have to die on first galahd ult.. so they won't provide additional healing to him later on

other way to deal with this boss is manual play and some hero with stun on ult - so you can break galahad's ult before it deals dmg

[rocky blade]

Because Jhu stays close to zero health most of the time, so doesn't give much healing ?

[near radish]

with dorian jhu stays almost full hp all time

but jhu alone is not enough for galahad to keep healing

[rocky blade]

I know that can be done with Yasmine, but I'm worried if her ult isn't active faster than the one of galahad, it's game over as she won't survive even a single ult, at least in my case

[rocky blade]

Excellent result of the suggestion ! I used Dante as front as I calculated he would get killed easily from the pure damage, and his dodge bonus would help jhu get some energy at start. As planned the other heros got killed quickly as they're not so strong

[rocky blade]

I'm surprised Mojo is registering so much damage, the damage bonus to other heros is counted for him ?

[near radish]

it is not exactly bonus to other heroes... his skill simply deals some dmg periodically based on dmg dealt by other heroes in this time

[void nova]

The best answer to a corrupted Galahad is always Yasmine. If you don't have her, he will regenerate a lot more. Also, when she backstabs him, he sometimes throws his swords in the wrong direction, saving your team from taking a lot of damage.

[void nova]

Was there any bonus to marksman energy gain, though? 🙂

[clear plaza]

Is there a weaker variant of adventure 13, maybe 13-9? Or do they all have more or less the same team power for enemies (650k-ish teams of red+2 heroes)?

[clear plaza]

Okay, after reading up a bit here it seems that 13-12 isn't too bad for starters - due to some leeway in the number of moves for each path.

[quiet moat]

All of them have the same power

[brave coral]

I would say 12 is the easiest. 9 and 11 are at the same level, but a fail in 11 means that you won't get a third chest, a fail in 9 probably means that you can't kill the boss. But you can compensate some mistakes in 11. That's why I say 12, 11, 9, 10

10 is hard, you need three experienced players because you can't lose a single time because you can't compensate it

[clear plaza]

Great, that sums it up pretty good. Thank you!

[void nova]

I think 13-12 is not easiest as in what teams you get to face. Left side is mostly fine, but teams with +250% health on the right are quite tough. Teams 25 and 29 are especially difficult, with +250% health and +100% damage buffs. But the good thing about 13-12 is that you can afford quite a few defeats without losing chance on 4 chests (and thus, raid).

[near radish]

it is easiest one exactly because of 8 or 9 spare mves

and with proper path managing you can avoid worst node - can skip 1 and still get 4 chests

[void nova]

Well, my point is - if you don't have a player that is quite a beast for the middle, it's not an easy adventure to have.

[wise berry]

middle doesn't have to be the hardest route

[void nova]

True, the 18-19-20 is not as scary as 25 and 29, and someone may take these without taking the middle ... but then it probably needs to be 2 different players dealing with these superbuffed defender squads.

For example Scar is an interesting strategy that allows a fairly weak center.

[wise berry]

Question would be; would you rather have extra moves and face a tougher node, or less (extra) moves but easier nodes 🤷‍♂️

I think most people would take the extra moves (which is why 13-12 is generally considered the easiest)

[void nova]

Yeah, right. Another question is, how safe it is to at least kill the boss if some things don't go as planned. I think all maps other than level 9 have fairly good safety of boss chest when players give up the 4th chest.

Either way, for 13-12 to be very forgiving on one of the paths, the other paths still need to do a good job.

[near radish]

13-12 boss is easiest of all bosses in 13 map..

[void nova]

Either way, it is a bit simplistic to just say one map is easiest without saying anything extra. For me, 13-12 is also the one I prefer, as being able to get 4 chests after several defeats is a great thing, and strong players can just blitz it without putting too much thought into it unless they already got two surprising defeats.

[near radish]

it is possible to kill 13-12 boss with 700-800k team while under 300% dmg buff

and you can't do it with any other boss in adv 13

[wise berry]

you could probably do it to ginger or orion with the right team

maybe galahad if you relied on a really strong jhu-solo

[void nova]

My summary for level 13 maps would be:

• level 12 map has the nastiest buffs, but good error margins allow for some 2-hits or even detours
• level 11 map tends to run well most of the time, but Orion is tough if you don't have a good team with Isaac
• level 10 map has low error margin to get 4 chests, but after picking up defeats, 3 chests are fairly safe
• level 9 map with its long separate paths has by far the highest chance of a 2-chest finish

[near radish]

not enough moves for galahad - 300% dmg = boosted heals and jhu won't have nough time to outdps it

[wise berry]

he won't heal if jhu doesn't heal much

don't do jhu-dorian, just jhu-thea

[near radish]

but if jhu won't heal he will die... remember galahad stuns

[void nova]

Or maybe in 13-9 you can forgive yourself the sins of your past and you can unbench the Yasmine 😉

[wise berry]

I just use jhu-thea, anyways (and my jhu is small so he gets stunned regardless)

[wise berry]

would probably need manual tho

with a 300% damage buff the pure damage off those swords would be crazy

so need to paralyze and keep him reversed

[void nova]

I once faced a Galahad that was still buffed up by one of the eyes. I only had one attack, coming from the middle path. Facing 95 % damage resistance, I still took him down to 15 % health using a Yasmine team. Maybe Galahad doesn't heal much when Jhu doesn't have much health to speak of, but he doesn't heal at all when he has full stacks of Yasmine's toxin.

If player on bottom path had Yasmine, it could potentially be a 4-chest finish back then.

[wise berry]

yas is a menace against bosses

[near radish]

but it requires quite good manual abilities...

13-9 has hardest boss, 13-10 is worst because of no error margin

[void nova]

Well, Yasmine needs manual approach for good PvP, but against bosses, unless you somehow have it calculated when Galahad uses his skills, it may be better to just run auto.

[wise berry]

you can react in time to cancel the ult

[void nova]

Perhaps that takes fairly good reaction times? I don't know, I usually just saw her land on the right and Galahad throwing swords in the wrong direction 🙂

[wise berry]

yeah, I also usually have a pretty good connection, not much lag

[void nova]

The fight runs locally anyway, any in-game lag is mostly to be blamed on browser overload, full RAM or weak computer.

[wise berry]

yeah, all the people that try to play HW on their phones 😬

[void nova]

I think the boss is not the biggest problem of 13-9 anyway. The upper path is also quite tough. A few times I saw the player on upper path get destroyed and fail to fully clear their path. And then, nobody can help. The total error margin looks good, with a total of 6 boss attacks if everyone succeeds. But if one path goes wrong, you end up with 2 chests.

Whereas in level 13-10, you can try my path (or Ayourk's) to add some error margin, and when your adventuring party gets defeated for the second time, you just aim straight to debuff and kill the boss, earning 3 chests with relative ease.

[wise berry]

I definitely find the boss the hardest part of 13-9. I know you're pretty knowledgeable about adv routes, but you can always try something like the picture below to give the top path more room for error

[void nova]

Yeah, DeiSolios did a pretty good job there, I think it's safer than Solfors for 13-9.

Anyway, I think level 12 map is by far the most interesting map for creating strategies.

Which makes it kinda sad that so many people settled for the regular Solfors.

[wise berry]

which one is the solfors route for 12?

[void nova]

It also explains why some people prefer sticking to level 11 when they could've been doing level 12 or even 13 for years - "but in level 12, there is so much waiting". Yeah, there is ... but only because Solfors being just terrible there.

This is Solfors ... well, the 12-Regular, they added two strategies that look a lot like mine, a few months ago.

[near radish]

12 can be done perfectly with no any waiting...

[void nova]

You can see that in Solfors 12 (explained on the variant with blue detour)

• orange needs to wait for both sides to do their first step (or come 3rd)
• green and blue need to wait for orange to do most of their path
• orange then needs to wait for blue to do the upper buff

And that is the mainstream strategy 🤢

You enter a new guild and you must fight the habit of everyone to run Solfors.

[near radish]

upper buff doesn't matter much - boss is so easy it can be killed even with it active without much problem

[wise berry]

if it makes you feel any better I have never run that particular route combination

[void nova]

Do you also know the path where second player can go straight to kill the boss?

This is Duo Spiral, variant for left side to start it.

Solfors recently added two new maps, Blue first is basically the mirror form of this.

[wise berry]

we do something like that quie often, but usually have middle kill that left supporting tower that green is meant to kill on that route

[void nova]

And I have no idea if any of these strategies existed before I added them to Fandom 🙂

[void nova]

That has one major disadvantage: Middle player only has room for 1 defeat. Sure, blue can come to help if needed, especially when green doesn't skip that one camp on upper left.

[wise berry]

yeah, always a bit of a risk ig

[near radish]

this is most common way i'm doing 13-12... or mirrored version if first player takes right route

then left and right can continue their paths...

[void nova]

But I call that one as Spiral Tenris-style, because player of this name went for it once, to avoid waiting. He was quite fearless, and most of the time it worked for him, but he didn't always have good hero setups, sometimes he got a stray defeat and when orange fails to kill the boss, it complicates things a lot. I thought, "yeah, that's great, to make it a duo strategy ... now, how to make it safer". And after that, I plotted the Duo Spiral strategy.

[void nova]

So, basically an evolution of Solfors where second player is not patient enough to play that stupid waiting game.

[wise berry]

what does Duo Spiral look like?

[void nova]

This one I posted a while ago is the left-first variant. #adventures message

[wise berry]

ah, I thought there would be 2 spirals involved 😦

[void nova]

And then there is the right-first option. This one seems a bit less popular to me though, and perhaps less feasible due to the tougher buffs on the right side that can result in a defeat or two.

[near radish]

another common "|no waiting" pattern (or mirrored version) - this one leaves 8 targets only for weakest team:

[void nova]

That could look beautiful for sure, but there isn't enough room for that on the map 🙂 Anyway ... the "duo" means that it's Spiral strategy variant that only requires two players to kill the boss.

[void nova]

Yeah, I did something slightly similar on left side when playing with people used to Solfors. I usually didn't take the upper buff though, I just cleared that extra bit, allowing the 2nd player to save 4 moves and perhaps use them elsewhere.

[near radish]

and this one - with strong enough middle player, leaves only 6 targets to weakest one:

[void nova]

Nice, but also it has no margin for error for either of the two players.

This is my favorite map to teach to guild mates when I lead them to level up from 11.

But as for the fewest actions needed for blue, I have this strategy I made mostly as a joke, almost two years ago:

The theme of the strategy is, two players joined some guy who started Solfors, went offline and you don't expect them to show up before the weekend is over.

[near radish]

for this variant i use such one when 2 first players select their paths:

[void nova]

Yeah, that is the more difficult one. I called it "A Rose Garden", because it looks more like a flower, not just like a spiral.

Well, more difficult for orange, easier for the sides, obviously.

Anyway, I made that one in MSPaint before I took it a bit more seriously in GIMP 🙂

[near radish]

this is why 12 is easiest one - so much space for corrections and adaptations

[void nova]

I would still not say it's easiest - it just handles defeats with a lot more grace.

[void nova]

You still need to beat some very nasty buffs on the blue side, so perhaps this one is the safest for a greenhorn on blue 🙂

As the nasty teams are in the part that orange clears in your strategy. Though, I would perhaps recommend making it slightly easier for orange, and ask blue to take their first step to save 2 AP. After all, orange needs to kill the boss.

(Or, if green fails anything, orange can still take the upper buff camp with their little margin.)

[near radish]

it is just adjusting paths to teams available

sticking to "one and only" paths is just stupid on this map

[void nova]

Absolutely. Though, strategies are very useful for some convenience. When some paths are the default for most players, it is easier for them to just do a good job even on a busy day.

[clear plaza]

In adventure 12 right path ("blue") can go first most of the time even when using the solfors.com mainstream variant. The buff on #29 is 'just' increased energy gain, and often you can barge right through. The other two players would still have to wait for each other.
If center is strong enough and confident they can take out the boss with fewer attacks, orange can use the "detour via left" that Kokoth outlined: 08-11-17-24-14-20-18-12-15-28-20-19-18-Boss(x2).

[void nova]

All right, you can choose to try beat that energy gain increase. I think it's one of the worse buffs to fight, though 95 % damage resistance is clearly worse, still. But I'd rather face +500% healing or +300% damage.

You can of course smash through when you're very powerful and you're doing just a level 12. But try do it in level 13 where the camps also have +250% health and +100% damage and I doubt it will be enjoyable even with a 1.2M team.

[clear plaza]

Valid point. I was talking about 12 there, not 13-12.

[void nova]

Yeah. In the end, you can get Solfors to work a little better, with no waiting.

But why start from a strategy that is actually quite suboptimal from several points of view, when you can actually switch to something far better, where the side paths aren't too much different and hard to learn ...

Though, to be honest, my own Spiral strategy originated from Solfors. It is just modified a little more heavily.

Modified as in: side paths skip their buff and #25 / #29, they take a step back, one of them takes detour to #14 / #15, and the middle path is redrawn from scratch. Yeah ... a bit heavier changes than usual.

[wise berry]

@void nova do you happen to have a screenshot of the flipped version of your duo-spiral? (right-side goes first and then left side has the easy route)

[void nova]

Well, I don't have a screenshot, but it's second strategy on https://hero-wars.fandom.com/wiki/Adventures/12

There are both variants for the following strategies: (regular) Spiral, Duo Spiral, OnePunchMan and Kokoth.

I mean ... it would technically not be a screenshot if I copied it from there 😄

But the game map itself is a screenshot, originally glued from way too many pictures, but I managed to get a clean one, glued just from two screenshots and cross-faded.

Solfors used to have a cleaner image than Fandom, well ... no more 🙂

[wise berry]

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[void nova]

Anyway, I guess I appreciate the gift links aggregation that Solfors offers us. The adventure maps though ... I think the idea of having one recommended strategy per map could be legitimate for easier compatibility of multiple adventurers. It's just that the strategy by Wanknspank has been the main strategy for level 12 for years there, even though it's been bested.

And the level 11 map is also suboptimal if the goal is a 4-chest finish.

[void nova]

Teams like this one are among the reasons why level 13-9 is difficult. Sure, someone heavy on pure damage can deal with this, but there is 100% resistance to physical and magic damage runs into Isaac, making it difficult for medium-power magic teams. I made it past, but I'm pretty sure Squad 38 stopped plenty of less experienced or less powerful adventurers today.

Moreover, the last two steps are better dealt with using physical heroes, so the upper path requires a lot more versatility than the other two paths.

[brave coral]

Maybe Orion with Mara and Peppy will help your Aurora to be fast

[void nova]

I skipped Aurora not to call in for physical heroes to punish me, and went for a more stealthy Arachne-Gus, as there was a big energy buff for control heroes and Arachne can also provide magic penetration without taunting Isaac too much.

I don't recall if Gus was already dealing pure damage before Arachne used her skill, but even my little fledgling was able to purify them with a big storm.

[forest sinew]

Albus is your friend 🙂 And he is a must-have for Asgard anyway

Now I have many heroes to choose from. But 2 or 3 years back, I used to just do all my Adventures with this team. Sure, it doesn't have the best synergy. But it has enough damage of each type that you can confortably cross any static buff

[wise berry]

isaac (as long as there is no hp buff) can be surprisingly easy to take down by mage teams, aurora-peppy (big aurora small peppy) could probably kill that faster than isaac can get enough ults off to make a difference

[void nova]

Yeah, the mixed damage teams work like 95% of the time, though sometimes one of the damage types can cause a problem (e.g. respawning Rufus, retaliating Isaac and more). I've seen a guy clear bottom path in 13-10 using a mixed team. I wouldn't personally risk it, but people are different 😄

[void nova]

Agreed. But these teams are those that can surprise guys who are able to win an adventure on a good day, but then lose on a bad one. By the way, there was some buff of support and control heroes. But no +250% health static buff, or something crazy.

[wise berry]

control can be broken in adventures, because they often lack counters

[void nova]

Yeah, I used Arachne. Enemy team never has any pets, so if there is no Seb, control can run unimpeded 😄

They still killed the 180k Qing Mao in the front, but she was probably a wrong pick for that level. Perhaps I should improve my Asta for situations like this, not like I was close to getting defeated, but sometimes he could come handy.

[forest sinew]

ok Adv 13 with 10 map I don't like even today still

I just do the other 3 maps, and only raid on days when it's the 10 map

[void nova]

I don't avoid it myself. But I have some difficulties finding sane teammates for that. Because I mostly get joined by people who have no idea it's actually difficult almost to the point of impossibility and ... somehow it worked last time, anyway 😄

[rocky blade]

Only 13/12 has the +250% health if I'm not mistaken. Corvus with it is really painful, my solution here is a damage dealer that's inside Dorian's aura.

Today's adventure 13 : Map 11 with Markmans AP +100% and Mage attack +100%

[void nova]

I think you're right. At least the left path can avoid it (in both my strategies). The right path cannot, and I think it's the main reason I struggled a lot before I had 800k power, and still struggled with some teams a bit afterwards. Then I took the let side onde and realized it is so much easier ...

[wise berry]

node 32 in 13-11 has an hp boost (but no other fixed buffs with it)

[void nova]

Wow. Forgot about that one. I probably never ran into a tough team there, but I see that Corvus can actually be there.

[rocky blade]

Indeed I only did 13-11 a few time and not that path so I didn't realise, but you're showing today's configuration. It's still easier than with the +100% damage bonus.
What's really painful today is that there's a very significant risk Cleaver will remove the damage dealer from dorian's orb ! I hope my dorian will be killed before it happens 😄

Yes without the +100% damage bonus that 13-12 has, Corvus with +250% health is much more manageable. I'm fortunate that Cleaver pulled dorian to the front, meaning the orb was on Aurora after that, and it was almost as good as on Orion.

[wise berry]

gus is such a menace that the damage boost isn't even an issue, what can be more painful is if I have to fight a hp-boosted isaac, because he is immune to magic damage

corvus + aidan have armor-artifacts, which makes physical damage tricky, hp-boosted isaac absorbs magic damage, and it's hard to get pure damage in large enough ticks

ofc, that would be a "worse case" sort of team, and even then you can often take advantage of daily buffs (like control boosts) to deal with teams that might otherwise be an issue

[rocky blade]

Doesn't gus convert magic damage to pure damage when there's enough magic penetration ? It doesn't happen frequently enough ?

[wise berry]

he has to hit the other team for it to work

if they are fully immune to his magic attack it doesn't work

so you can use him against anti-magic nodes in adv 12, but not in adv 13

[rocky blade]

I've read an idea of attacking isaac with aurora + sebastian, because sebastian will cancel the silence, and the dodge from aurora will avoid most physical damage and load energy, which helps to dodge the next attack and to ult seb again quickly to continue to cancel the silence.

[rocky blade]

I see but isaac is a nuissance mostly on anti-physical node, if he's on an anti-magic node most of the time I'll just use dante tank and no magic heros and handle him easily.

[wise berry]

he's an issue on health nodes, not anti-magic (that would be redundant, lol)

[void nova]

In some other games perhaps resistance going over 100 % would make him heal 😄 I wonder, when he's 100% resistant by his MP-300 Capacitor, does he even get stacks of superconductivity? I suppose he just blocks it entirely like some other cases of 100% resistances do.

[void nova]

While Seb may be useful there, Khorus as team pet is even more so, considering that Sebastian's grey skill has a limited stack of lingering anti-debuff for the team, and hitting Isaac with magic can deplete that rather fast.

[wise berry]

he still charges up

[rocky blade]

Today's adventure 13 : Map 10 with Control Energy +100% and Support attack +100%

[rocky blade]

I don't believe many people will try it except for those find adventure 13 usually too easy and not enough of a challenge !

[forest sinew]

If you do it smart, you can just raid on days when it's the Adv 10 map 😉

[void nova]

Unless you're unlucky and it's level 10 for 3 days straight ... but that shouln't happen often 😄

For me, 13-10 is not a big deal, though some freak cases like a buffed chimp can still ruin it.

The main problem tends to be to find some teammates who are sane enough to play it safe, but crazy enough to join.

[rocky blade]

Control Energy +100% tends to make failure much easier, and a majority of control hero are also support, so get the +100% bonus on attack too.

[wise berry]

I like the control energy boost days, you can take down teams you might otherwise have had issues with

[void nova]

Wow. I had no idea that Judge runs triple class. Anyway, I don't think it's majority, just perhaps the largest minority.

[wise berry]

yeah, judge is almost always buffed in adventures because of that (if not double-buffed)

[void nova]

@rocky blade There are:

• tank + control: Cleaver, Chabba, Luther
• warrior + control: Arachne, K'arkh
• mage + control: Lian, Phobos, Lars, Lilith, Polaris, Judge (also support)
• marksman + control: Darkstar (surprisingly not Lara!)
• support + control: Isaac, Andvari, Fafnir, Jorgen, Judge (also mage)
• healer + control: Thea
  Looks like mages one-up supports, still. And even if tie-breaker was needed, Judge is primarily a mage.

[rocky blade]

Yeah I was wrong. I realise now my primary team is mage based, so when a mage bonus also enhances mage+control, I don't care, whilst support+control is more annoying for me.

[void nova]

I can even extract something good out of control buffs. My Arachne is big and my Mara, too. My Khorus is also maxed (at least on the left side), so he can block most status effects, though not all debuffs. The enemy teams don't have pets, so unless they have Seb, they don't cancel Arachne's stuns, which last very long. So if she has lower cooldowns, higher energy gain (or both), I can just pick her up and see how enemies don't do much at all.

Though lately I've been mostly going for teams that just delete the enemies within 20 seconds ...

[void nova]

Does anyone have an idea how the buffs apply together?

E.g. today I see these buffs appply in 13-10:

• Mage swiftness: -50 % skill cooldown
• Control swiftness: -50 % skill cooldown

So, let's say we have a mage-control (there are six of these). Does it apply:

• with no stacking (50 % reduction to both)?
• stacking additively as something more like "spell speed", resulting in +200 % (reduction to 33 %)?
• stacking multiplicatively (works the same regardless), resulting in cooldowns reduced to 25 %?
• stacking additively as actual reduction, resulting in reduction to 0 %? (I suppose this is unlikely)

So far I noticed some additive stacking of some of the damage / power things.

[void nova]

The items are quite useless, aren't they? They are not very expensive to buy, but their sell price is laughably small, making it the most disappointing boss chest reward by a huge margin. I'd rather take double potion reward than more of this 💩 that I just need to pawn off every few months to get a few thousands of Chaos Particles where chaos particles rewards would give me tens of thousands.

If they could at least be used to level up the item one level, they would at least be good for something.

[void nova]

A difficult adventure, they say 🙂

Certainly a bit more interactive than I generally like though. I sure prefer 13-12 or 13-11.

[wise berry]

not 13-9? 🥺

[void nova]

13-9 is not bad, but if blue fails hard, all is lost. 13-10 is more forgiving when it comes to boss chest.

[wise berry]

I got my adv 13 frame solely from 13-9's, so it's still special for me ig

[teal niche]

And i haven't got my frame 😭 maybe in one week 🙂

[void nova]

Wait, there was a frame? I think I didn't notice it much.

[teal niche]

LOL, the red frame

[void nova]

I still like the Mysterious Island compass frame the most, anyway ...

[void nova]

I must have it for years then, I suppose.

[teal niche]

✅

[void nova]

Anyway, I'm mostly a 13-12 guy, that's where I made the most strategies 😄
But I'm quite proud on my 13-10 strategy as well 🙂

[teal niche]

My guildie warn me and said to avoid 13-10 today 🙂

[void nova]

OK, the multiple "years" still doesn't fully apply 🙂

[wise berry]

today is 13-9

[teal niche]

Looks cute with the avatar

[wise berry]

yesterday was 13-10

[teal niche]

yes, i did today. and after that we had a conversation when he said that

[void nova]

Not on FB though 🙂 I am not sure if it was synced earlier, but at least now it is not.

[wise berry]

🤔

what's it 4 u on facebook atm?

[void nova]

I've just done 13-10 today. Still 1 move remaining after we're done with it 🙂

To do it well, I went to Fandom to look up my own strategy 😄

[wise berry]

I'm presuming the point of that is that any player can drop one node and still be fine?

[void nova]

Yup. There is some increased risk of that happening when facing these buffs, but with strong adventurers the chance of a +300% damage enemy buff meaning a lot goes down significantly.

[wise berry]

makes sense, normally on this channel we're telling newbs not to try going thru buffed nodes

[void nova]

Yeah, this is a bit more advanced strategy. I was thinking about the options for a long time and then I basically reinvented Ayourk's strategy, though I still believe my strategy is a bit more adaptive than both of his, if nothing else.

In Ayourk#2, if bottom path loses a fight, then the middle needs to be the one to pick up their last step and upper path needs to finish the boss. In Ayourk#1, middle player has two boss attacks, which however means that if white loses a fight, the situation is still salvageable, but only if it's still possible to transpose to my strategy 🙂

Anyway, as with most adventures, some troubleshooting when things wrong is the key to succeeding even in situations where all doesn't go well ... but I still think a good strategy is a useful tool to have a more advantageous position even in fhese worse scenarios.

[rocky blade]

hi, what's the map and buffs today for adventure 13 ?

[near radish]

map 11

and buffs

and buffs - tank cooldown 50%, control energy gain 100% and pet cooldown 100%

[rocky blade]

Thanks to Debren for telling me what adv 13 was yesterday, when I was in the middle of an adventure and I preferred to raid on today's guild day if the day's adv 13 wasn't favorable.

Today's adventure 13 : Map 11 with Support Energy +100% and Marksman AP +100%

[void nova]

Mhm, my weak pets. I suppose they're not too bad after all.

[still mirage]

95% damage resistance taken with Lara

[quiet moat]

First abs star pet that's no from grand prize

[rocky blade]

Interesting, all heros are maxed out ?

[still mirage]

no some are max others are close to it

[lost musk]

Hi, can anyone help me in the adventures? I don't really know which path to take in some of the maps.

[loud jasper]

solfors.com shows us all the maps

[lost musk]

ok, thank you very much

[wet igloo]

is it better to follow solfors routes or the ones on hw fandom wiki for adv 9-13?

[forest sinew]

There are essentially 2 good routes for the 9 map. In my guild we use this mostly

The other good one is this

[silk parrot]

I suggest this 1st one because you dont have to wait for anyone just do mid path in evening or night and go to sleep and next day boom you can raid and do this everyday until you get to adv 10

[forest sinew]

well you still need to wait for the blue guy to unbuff #5

[silk parrot]

yeah maybe but I didnt wait I won that everytime without unbuff

[forest sinew]

If you have a team that can cross a 95% damage resist, sure

[silk parrot]

have to use team with every damage type like dante with iris

jhu heidi aurora

[silk parrot]

what is your main team? can I know?

[silk parrot]

also where did you got this 1st picture?

[forest sinew]

Main team, hard to say.... I use various combinations of my Top 15

[forest sinew]

https://hero-wars.fandom.com/wiki/Adventures/9/Siege_of_Strongford

[silk parrot]

ohh then that was easy for you

[silk parrot]

I want to see that message below but that was blur there too

[silk parrot]

Aurora issac jhu heidi martha can win every battle in adv

just swap issac with maya if you face corvus

I guess this will work well in every battle and every damage resist

you have many heroes leveled up you dont need to worry you can use many teams as per situation

[forest sinew]

Maybe. But luckily I have good guildmates that do their hits quickly, so we don't need to go against the beams

[silk parrot]

which adv are you doing daily?

[forest sinew]

only 13s now

[silk parrot]

that is good I cant do adv 13 currently I am doing adv 12

I need to work on atleast 1 hero to be able to clear adv 13

[forest sinew]

show your current heroes

[silk parrot]

I want to make heidi at least 100k for adv will make Iris 150k soon

[forest sinew]

Hmm ok, this still needs a bit of work for Adv 13. (Unless you have stronger teammates, then maybe you could do Adv 13 with the 12 map)

[silk parrot]

yeah

[gleaming sage]

better to buff your owl + orion

[silk parrot]

ok I will do

[silk parrot]

till how much power?

[gleaming sage]

around 100k is good to use

[silk parrot]

will it work? then I will do as fast as I can

[wise berry]

yeah, I'm partial to this route now because you can go straight through (red-blue-white) if red can break a 300% damage and a 300% energy increase 🙂

both are pretty decent routes, first map gives green (bottom route) more room for error while the second map gives blue (top route) more room for error, so that depending on what types of teams your guild runs one might generally be better

[void nova]

I might not be impartial, but I'd vote for Fandom. If only for the fact that there are more strategies to pick. E.g. if you play 13-9 and you can only play the bottom path, then with Solfors / Hericus, you have to wait for everyone. With DeiSolios, you can start.

[wise berry]

fandom has more options

[void nova]

With strong Cain you might have some chance in 13-12, but it won't be easy, considering there are so big buffs ... unsupported Dante will probably suffer there.

[wise berry]

but navigating through fandom in general can be a pain

[silk parrot]

yeah damage resist is so high if dante fails then battle will be lost

[gleaming sage]

ofc they will

u should wait for good daily buff like maskman + support and 13-12 is there. It's time to smash the right path

[silk parrot]

ok Thank you so much!

[void nova]

Nah. That is not the main reason. If you let the Dante team take a path with no physical resist, what you said won't be relevant at all. The problem arises when the team reaches the camps with +250% health and similar camps.

[void nova]

I think Iris can carry your team, too. She is the reason why Dante might work even against armored targets, killing some of the easier targets instantly and then killing tanks with help of Iris. I think it makes sense to power up the trio, seb and Martha, they are a fairly good team and most of the heroes have a good use elsewhere.

The team lacks armor penetration, but Iris dealing some pure damage helps for sure. Introducing Isaac can also solve some of the team's problems, especially when facing likes of Orion, but it severs the tie between Dante and Nebula, so Dante's damage penetrates armor better, but it isn't supercharged by Nebula's buff anymore.

Moreover, Seb, Nebula, Martha and Isaac are in the meta Osh team, so the benefits will manifest elsewhere as well.

[silk parrot]

I am doing Issac and jhu too

[teal niche]

Used this today, took the right path... too easy 🙂

[void nova]

At this stage I'd probably give Albus to Iris, and perhaps some protective pet for the little chimp. But a fine team indeed. Was it easy 12 for you, or did you smash 13 at a level of power that should generally not be recommended? 😄

[wet igloo]

i just got axel to v+2, should i bring up albus to the same level, continue with axel until v+3 left side maxed, or bring up vex/oliver for osh?

[forest sinew]

push 3 more to violet so all of your heroes have patronage skills

After that, push your main team pet (probably Axel) to V+3

[teal niche]

It was good, except sometime i swap Heidi for Seb

[void nova]

Yeah, patronage skills are very useful. I think I had all my pets on Violet before pushing a second one to +2 or more.

[brave coral]

Maybe Cain if your damage dealer needs him

[sacred lily]

In adventure 12, is it possible to move directly from #6 to #9, without passing #3?

[gleaming ruin]

If you can build a street between those two, means no you can't. Otherwise go #9 - #3 - #6.

[near radish]

there is no path between those 2... it is why start of this side is with 9, not 3

[sacred lily]

Thanks!

[rocky blade]

This still can't win against corvus at 250% health + 100% damage. You need dorian's orb on you main damage dealer to survive that one.
If you're not doing adv 13, there's probably other cases that don't work and you don't see currently.

[rocky blade]

But the limitation is that you have no solution for positions with pure damage immunity.

[void nova]

Yeah, for that purpose, the meta team has all damage types covered. However, it is not as bulletproof for that case as it might seem - Gus won't deal pure damage if he can't apply the superconductivity debuffs, and I think that 100% magic resistance results in blocking the attack that applies the debuff, and blocks the debuff as well by that.

[rocky blade]

Yes I've heard that. In fact I'm reviewing now a fight in my guild to try to explain how to properly select heros against physical damage immunity, and I'm seeing Yasmine also seems to do 0 damage even with her ult in physical immunity positions. I think if her hits don't land because of that, the poisoning for pure damage doesn't happen either.

[wise berry]

yeah, gus gets blocked by magic and pure damage resistant nodes, so it's a little annoying

[gusty lichen]

huh never seen neb with top damage before

healer and support buff...ig

[wise berry]

neb also has the most power lol, even tho only o2

[drowsy storm]

Adventure 12, What kind of strength should you have in general to take part in adventure 12? I know that there are different teams to defeat. But just to have an idea.

[gleaming sage]

dante-neb-iris-heidi-dorian <= can take any path of map

open map in private and explore yourself

[drowsy storm]

Thank you gangsphan. I have already had a trial run on the path on the right it went pretty well. I do have to work on my Dorian and Heidi a bit more.

[simple berry]

you can also ask the guy in the middle path to take out these two nodes

as long as he can take out the boss in a fight

[clear plaza]

The right-hand side in adv 12 lends itself to a physical team. So you could also go with the more 'traditional' Dante-Neb-Seb-Iris plus a 5th of your choice.

Left side has physical resist nodes, that's where you'd need e.g. Heidi or Orion. And the center requires even more flexibility / team power.

Sorry, answered the wrong person - was intended @drowsy storm.

[silk parrot]

nice

[silk parrot]

yeah this is so true I am working on heidi for that

for adv 12 this team works well but cant do good on adv 13. can I get some suggestion for adv 13? @gleaming sage

[near radish]

same team should work on right path

[silk parrot]

For adv 13? I guess I cant do adv 13

[near radish]

adv13 is not much stronger than 12 in terms of teams power - it is more about ability to deal with 100% resist nodes and with proper team composition it is possible to clear it with teams below 500k...
especially if it is map 12, where with 2 other players strong enough you can get to clear only 6 or 7 nodes

[silk parrot]

can I get some suggestion for adv 10 and 11 variant of adv 13 Please!

[wise berry]

general advice; don't do adv 13-10 (raid on days when it's the adv 13 map) unless you're strong enough to break buffs (in which case you can have fun with Kokoth's route)

[silk parrot]

ok then I can try adv 13- 11 and 12?

[wise berry]

13-11 and 13-12 are both fine

[silk parrot]

OK Thank you so much!!

[forest sinew]

Also Adv 13 with 9 map is not that hard, easier than the 11 map, imo

[silk parrot]

ohh ok

[gleaming ruin]

On some days with tank buffs the boss can be a beast on 13-9... if you allow him to hit you.

[wise berry]

or you can just 2-shot with jhu solo 🤷‍♂️

[gleaming ruin]

2-shot? You have a limit so that you cannot deal more than 1% damage per hit to the boss.

I guess you mean 2 fights 🙂 .

[wise berry]

that

[rose sequoia]

the most difficult part of a13-9 is getting ur mates to not mess up the paths 😂 especially if u use a no-waiting path or smth

[silk parrot]

I tried adv 13 I didn't face problem but attacking physical resist is so hard need to upgrade heidi then I ca do I guess

my jhu doesn't do any damage when there is physical resist in adv 13 why?

[forest sinew]

Show us your heroes

[silk parrot]

suggest me please!

I want to win physical resist team too because almost all player have upgraded physical attacker team so

[forest sinew]

Hmm ok, that is indeed very Physical-sided.

[silk parrot]

yes fully

[forest sinew]

Do you at least have Albus maxed out?

[silk parrot]

not maxed I am working on albus

this is my albus

[forest sinew]

He is your BIG friend for Physical resist nodes, try to push him more. Back in the day when I didn't have many heroes maxed, even this was good enough for me. Phobos and Albus doing most of the work here

[silk parrot]

phobos is magic I guess do Iris work for me?

[silk parrot]

OK I will max my albus and then go for oliver I guess

[forest sinew]

Iris will definitely help, but I don't think she can do it all alone

[silk parrot]

this is my Iris but I am losing I need 2 attempt to clear physical resist team

heidi is good but he is so weak

current ToP I am working on heidi so I can use Iris heidi and dorian in physical resist adventure I hope they will help

[silk parrot]

Can I get any suggestion? about heidi or should I consider others

[snow kayak]

iris can be really good depending if you can get your dante to ult while albus is charging and deals significant dmg

[silk parrot]

dant wont do any damage because of 100% physical resist

[forest sinew]

Heidi is a good choice imo. You will make good use of him also in GW/Arena

[snow kayak]

super makes pure dmg

[silk parrot]

ok then I will definately do heidi

[silk parrot]

super I didn't get it?

[silk parrot]

also after someday lyria will make my team useless what should I do

she will affect aurora and heidi too

[snow kayak]

her ult makes dmg on soul pure dmg

[silk parrot]

dante? I guess that is Iris

[snow kayak]

no matter what type

[snow kayak]

yeah because i'm tryna max out last thing for red +2

[forest sinew]

too hard to say at this point. We need to see her more in action first

[silk parrot]

ok I will consider that too

[snow kayak]

yeah

[silk parrot]

yeah I am waiting but if dante got weak then all my time energy and resources will go waste

[snow kayak]

aroura also good with dodge and cain for super for magic like 50-100k dmg depending

[silk parrot]

as a f2p cant make other team that fast have to start working so I can compete

[snow kayak]

same

[silk parrot]

but lyria will reduce dodge of aurora too

we cant rely on aurora against her I guess

[snow kayak]

still dodge around 50%

[silk parrot]

only 50% reduction?

[snow kayak]

no aroura dodges like 50%of all phys atk

[silk parrot]

but in video dante rarely dodge

[silk parrot]

buy facing lyria makes no dodge

[snow kayak]

dante dodge can include skins

[silk parrot]

so she will ult less and gets damage so fast

[snow kayak]

yeah

[silk parrot]

so we dante tank team user are cooked

[snow kayak]

no only decrease dodge

not remove

so if not many undead it not very good

[silk parrot]

but our power is dodge without dodge dante is useless

he doesnt have good health too

[snow kayak]

only decrease

is team your vs magic or pure main?

[silk parrot]

without undead lyria will get tank to o dodge and we use dante as tank

[silk parrot]

mine team is physical

dante neb seb iris and martha is my team

[snow kayak]

who u versing in team

[silk parrot]

so I need dante to ult

[silk parrot]

mages

[snow kayak]

low health

[silk parrot]

pure too

[snow kayak]

use kayla or smth to kill ones at back

or use rufus tank because immune to death from pure and magic

[silk parrot]

used to win almost all physical battle but after lyria I cant win like before

[silk parrot]

lyria is warrior she wont stand back and I dont have kayla

[snow kayak]

yeah i'm moving slowly because of dodge tanks

[silk parrot]

yeah

we need some other team

we can go for aurora bcause of lyria

I guess corvus and mushy shroom is good tank

but need to work on compete team and as a f2p that will take almost 1 year

[snow kayak]

yeah

[silk parrot]

we are doomed

[silk parrot]

I lost 1 battle in adv 13 my bad now we cant get 4 chest😭

[forest sinew]

Well this is the one map we all told you not to go for .....

[silk parrot]

yeah I thought I can do but qing mao dodge and I failed because of Rng and in 2nd attempt she didnt dodge

[wise berry]

🤦‍♂️

of all the maps to choose...

[rose sequoia]

idk, they dont let his green skill work

[silk parrot]

yeah I was shocked when jhu didnt deal any damage

[silk parrot]

no worry I completed another adventure 13 now I can o ad 13 but I have to take path with no pysical resist

[rose sequoia]

why would u go on the path that has physical resist

[rose sequoia]

ginger >>> amira

[silk parrot]

I wont go I was just trying to see my heroes actual power

[rose sequoia]

bruh

[silk parrot]

I finished adv 13 by ignoring physical resist path got 4 chests today

now just need to upgrade haidi so I can do physical resist team too

[rose sequoia]

better to concentrate on main team but sure

[silk parrot]

yeah

[silk parrot]

main team is gone after lyria my team is going to be useless so I will upgrade heidi so I will have heidi dorian and Iris and will do 1 tank

[rose sequoia]

heidi is also useless after lyria unless her aura doesnt reach him

[silk parrot]

ohh

[silk parrot]

then what should I do?

[rose sequoia]

idk 🤷‍♂️

i think stick w ur main team

i mean how strong r u

new to a13... 450k? 500k?

[silk parrot]

mine current team

[rose sequoia]

i think stick w it

maybe take out martha for dorian tho and cain for axel/khorus

[silk parrot]

ok I will hold dante and focus mainly on Iris and neb

[rose sequoia]

no keep strong on dante

[silk parrot]

axel or khorus?

[rose sequoia]

hes ur win condition basically

[silk parrot]

ok

[rose sequoia]

khorus imo but axel works too especially if u have him stronger alr

[silk parrot]

this is my dante

[silk parrot]

I have both at violet

[rose sequoia]

eh wtv u want then

at violet neither is very strong

[silk parrot]

I lost badly

[rose sequoia]

max him

[rose sequoia]

dont use dante against lyria

wait can u share the replay tho

[silk parrot]

trying all maxed except armor gylph and ascension

[rose sequoia]

i wanna see lyria

[silk parrot]

ok

[rose sequoia]

glyphs u should be able to max ez

armor doesnt matter that much but its good to have

[silk parrot]

https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1746596674582140580

[silk parrot]

having max armor leads to slow ult so but after lyria I guess I should max armor glyph

[rose sequoia]

doesnt matter if u have violet cain patronage anyway

but yeah lyria is gonna disrupt meta for sure

[silk parrot]

my friend told HWC made video where undead team with lyria lost with meta team

[rose sequoia]

holy crap that aura is enormous

bro thats nasty

if dante didnt have green skill he wouldnt have dodged anything

[rose sequoia]

i think theyll be able to make a lyria team that stops dante

[silk parrot]

yeah I am sure about that they introduced lyria to stop dante, from start dante was doing good

[rose sequoia]

wdym "from start"

[silk parrot]

I guess dante was good from starting time of the game maybe

I dont know well I am new

[rose sequoia]

ah he wasnt lol

[silk parrot]

I am just guessing

[rose sequoia]

hes been good for a few years now tho

[silk parrot]

ohh is he new hero or

became good after some change?

[silk parrot]

I used to win him before but now I am losing because of lyria sad

[rose sequoia]

dodge got reworked

before u didnt get any energy if u dodged the attack

[silk parrot]

ohh ok

[silk parrot]

ohh then all dodge hero got boosted after that

need to max this

[rose sequoia]

yeah also cain gives energy so

[silk parrot]

this ascension is so hard to upgrade items are random

[rose sequoia]

make sure u upg the important things first

so u should do that ap glyph next

then that agi glyph or the pa glyph, whichever gives more pa overall

[silk parrot]

all glyph are maxed except armor

[silk parrot]

already done

[rose sequoia]

what

[silk parrot]

mine dante's all glyph are maxed

only armor left to do

see here

[rose sequoia]

no i mean the glyphs in ascension

pretend i said "node" instead of "glyph"

[silk parrot]

ohh ok my bad sorry

[rose sequoia]

do the ap node next since its the most important, then the agi or pa node depending which gives more pa

[silk parrot]

ok sorry

[rose sequoia]

nah its mb

[silk parrot]

ok I will consider

[quiet moat]

Max both sides

[void nova]

Very clean adventure today 🙂 (13-10 of course)

[void nova]

Probably the result of not taking a good strategy either. Whatever you went for doesn't look like Kokoth or Ayourk strategy.

[void nova]

That's a great team for right path. If you are required to work on left or middle path, you'll need other damage types, preferably a magic team or pure damage team (even Iris doesn't really work that well with her mix of pure + physical).

[silk parrot]

yeah I am working on heidi

[void nova]

880 again 😄 What a nice guild I'm in 🙂

[rocky blade]

I think Jhu usually does some pure damage, but Yasmine does nothing as apparently the pure damage from her poisonning requires that the physical damage of the initial attack lands first, so you might have met a similar issue.

[void nova]

Yup, the pure damage requires the attack to land. But since the attack counts as physical, instead of landing with 0 damage, the 100 % resistance counts as blocking it completely, like when Ishmael blocks for several seconds.

[silk parrot]

yeah both hve same issue

[simple berry]

heroes that also do pure damage on their physical attacks deal no damage against physical resistant teams

jhu and also keira

[silk parrot]

yeah they wont do damage in both physical and pure resist if resist is 100% they need to land pysical damage to do pure damage

in pure resist they can only do physical

but in physical resist then can do nothing

[void nova]

Yeah. Some of them are still decent in pure damage resistance levels (as long as they can penetrate the armor). But they all do nothing in physical resistance levels.

[quiet moat]

2/3 max items pets

[livid niche]

if you have absolute pets, are they removed from the daily summoning? can't say that I've been paying attention to it.

[near radish]

yes, they are removed.. and when you have all pets at absolute they are replaced with 75k pet soul coins

[livid niche]

Thank you again Debren 🙂

[still mirage]

adding to what Debren said they get removed from the daily grand prize but you still get them from normal openings

[void nova]

Yeah, as Bonefire says: They are only removed from the grand prize. At the point where you have a last pet that is not maxed (or all maxed already), the daily rotation of grand prize stops making a difference. I was trying to be mindful of it prior to that.

[ionic palm]

I kind of want titan only adventures.

[rocky blade]

It doesn't make much difference also before. I'm certain the first grand prize I received wasn't the one of the day, and I think it was the same for the second one.

[void nova]

I only received one Grand Prize, and it was the last pet that I had at 5 stars, so basically there was no alternative.

[ionic palm]

At what power minimum can I start using Augustus?

I got it to just over 100k in power right now.

[simple berry]

that's more than enough

[ionic palm]

Isn't Augustus easy to ko though?

[drifting prism]

This game mode is so frustrating when you don't have reliable guild mates

[forest sinew]

Solution: Find a better guild

[still mirage]

group hug

[clear plaza]

What's a reasonable strength/power number for Isaac when wanting him to be useful in 13-11?

[gleaming sage]

mine worked well at around 100k

[wise berry]

<@&729965095974731787>

[versed trench]

good enough for a start

[void nova]

Is the chicken still salvageable for some very spicy Indian food, or should it just be put down and incinerated? 😅

I like my guild, I haven't had many ruined level 13 adventures here.

But I was in a big money guild last year and those guys had all the power needed, but they played like absolute donkeys.

I mean, you can have 1.2M power and obliterate all enemies, but if you veer off the path in 13-10, it's already over.

[magic yarrow]

finally managed to bulldoze through the buffed top path in 13-9, no more waiting in any adv
that 95% damage reduction in #38 is hard though

[forest sinew]

I just do Private Adventures and only invite those people who I know won't take forever to do their hits 🙂

[magic yarrow]

no need for that in a good guild😉

[quiet moat]

Luckily my guild is very responsible so even if the adventure isn't private, you know that ppl who join are responsible

[wise berry]

why not just go mid path first? There you only have to deal with a damage increase and an energy gain increase.

just do these routes and have the first player do red/middle

it's an adv 9 map, lmao it's the same as 13-9

the buffs I told you are for 13-9, you can look yourself

hey, you can take whatever routes you want, but the easiest way to go through 13-9 without waiting is when the middle-path buff-breaks

because you can break whatever buffs you want, lol

it's us weaker players with fewer hero options (and lower power) that actually need the better routes

[loud jasper]

<@&729965095974731787>

[tired ember]

Lol

[dry zenith]

just run Yasmine and Celeste for Galahad buff or no buff

[idle egret]

then dont attack a boss with buffs....

[forest sinew]

If his guildmates failed on their routes, then he had no choice ....

Definitely not on the Adv 9 map

[idle egret]

he is a she

[void nova]

Well, Yasmine's part is, she blocks most of Galahad's healing. I once managed to get +15 against Galahad with 95% damage resistance, sadly my guild mate on bottom path was unable to finish him off. And then I see one guild mate who isn't particularly strong picking upper path. I wonder how long till he fails some adventure when running into a tough encounter.

But most guild mates are quite sane, and they do a pretty good job in adventures. I like my guild.

If only they tried a bit harder when it's fire at will (or targeted buildings, but no direct assignments) in CoW ...

[wise berry]

just go for a jhu-solo then

can take the boss in 2 with that, maybe 1 if you have a stronger jhu than me

[void nova]

Well, energy gain can have a significant impacts, I can sure agree on that. Still, I managed to do +9 from bottom path against Galahad with two buffs on him, so perhaps there are ways. (As long as you have a decent Yasmine.)

Well, 13-12 is generally much easier than some of the others. Personally, from the point of boss chest safety, I'd rank 13-9 as the lowest, and even 13-10 as better (though the 4th chest is tricky there).

In 13-9, if either of the paths fails, the boss may be impossible (or close to impossible) to kill. Considering that the the upper path is the toughest path by far in that level, and many players fail to realize that, failures happen a lot.

Meanwhile, in 13-10, you can just take shortcuts and go for a very safe boss kill when second defeat happens.

[void nova]

800k mostly magic team should generally do great in 13-12 left side 🙂 And if you have Morrigan at least around 40k-50k with enough health to live for a while, even Rufus won't cause you any trouble anymore.

The question is: Is there someone bigger to take the middle route and kill the boss?

I remember trying 13-12 middle path when I was below 900k and it was quite tricky and risky.

[warped wraith]

no raid in adv possible...

[clear plaza]

Great. Just what you need for "A Portal Anomaly"...

[hollow bone]

It works again

Anyway I maxed out Axel and Albus both sides, which pet should I do next?

[gleaming sage]

oliver vex merlin fernis

[hollow bone]

ok thanks

[snow kayak]

mine did too

waited a day

[clear plaza]

Yes, thankfully they fixed it quickly. Still annoying when you were sitting on a completed adventure and all ready to go for the event questline...

[snow kayak]

fr i almost ran out of time for raiding

[rose sequoia]

take middle path first, no waiting

[forest sinew]

Huge waste of moves .....

[rose sequoia]

how so?

just dont lose

means u dont have to wait for anyone

[forest sinew]

Because you go back and forth 3 times. Also, you're missing the best buff there is

[rose sequoia]

u only have to do two of those three to win actually

i play middle first so i usually do mine and then only one of the other two players has to do theirs

would usually prefer bottom path to do it since they have sm moves leftover

also theres actually a better rendition a guildmate made recently

idk if this map is comprehensible

green (top) can choose one of two paths

either lighter or darker green depending if they want to fight a buffed squad or not

darker green kills seven squads instead of six but requires fighting a buffed squad

theres also no wasted move in the darker green

would still recommend red to go first and blue to go second ig

[void nova]

Nice path, and clearly it has been out there for some time, Fandom lists it as Mandalorian99 strategy. It however doesn't take the detour on red path, as leaving 5 camps undefeated is enough for 4 chests.

[void nova]

Well, if green takes the darker route, it is further 1 camp captured, aiming at 840 points. I'd rather invest the moves towards more boss chest safety, resulting in a path like this, with very symmetric margin for error (every player has 2 boss attacks if undefeated on the path to there).

[rose sequoia]

its about taking initiative

if u dont trust ur guild members to do it, do it urself lol

[void nova]

Of course, there may be a different variant where the player on top takes the darker green path, from what you show, and in that case neither red nor blue have to take any detour.

[rose sequoia]

i did see it from mandalorian99 first i think

[rose sequoia]

honestly idc i just didnt want to wait in a13-9 anymore lol

[void nova]

Yeah, that's a very valid idea, I suppose I'll teach Mandalorian (or my own edit of it) to my guild mates. One player likes to start and take upper path, and there are two problems:

• I'm not sure if he can actually handle the path
• He often takes up to 20 hours to show up again to finish it, so the endless wait really sucks.

Too bad that any kind of no-waiting strategy for 13-10 would probably involve beating multiple nasty buffs.

But most people aren't crazy enough to go for 13-10 anyway 😄

[forest sinew]

I guess it depends on your guildmates. The vast majority of mine will move quickly, so I prefer to wait a little bit and not waste any moves. But if they are slow, then maybe this works better for you

[rose sequoia]

yeah since my guild is japanese theyre on a different time schedule than me

[delicate gust]

Jhu is such a good boss killer

[void nova]

For some bosses, Yasmine is even better, especially considering the anti-healing properties of her toxins. However, Jhu's advantage is that he also works well against Osh, which is where Yasmine falls quite flat.

[simple berry]

chu got pepsi or sprite bro

[dry zenith]

depending on which heroes you have and how well you utilize counters and good team synergy you could probably get through most adventure fights with a 600k team since that is pretty close to the opposing teams

[void nova]

I think 800k-850k may be a bit overstated. But if Noah is not very bright, I'd say 900k - 1M with some mixed damage type team would probably do the trick.

If he's mostly fine, and he just needs to adjust, then 600k+ may have a chance, depending on which variant of level 13 it is, what buffs there are and which path the adventurer takes.

[void nova]

Yeah, that makes it a bit different matter. Repeatedly going for an adventure you can't beat, well ... if it wasn't a team game, I would call it stubborn go-getter attitude, but with other people involved there isn't much positive about someone doing it.

[delicate gust]

Dante+Neb will carry you pretty hard in adventures even with lower team level you can win high adventures, because Dante will 1 shot a lot of the nodes

[wise berry]

even with lower team level?

[void nova]

Just imagining that someone level 129 tried level 13 adventure ... I had less than 400k power when I reached level 130. But it takes at least 600k power to have a reasonable chance at 13-12 (possibly a bit less for physical paths in other level 13 maps).

I think the team level limitation is not any sort of gate-keeping to prevent lower level players from having fun 😄

[forest sinew]

Depends how strong the other 2 guys are. If they can carry you, you only need to win a few fights with your 15 moves

[rose sequoia]

also jhu has better survivability

[raw jewel]

Pets are Finally Maxed, ahhhhhh relaxation

[void nova]

I think I'll be using this strategy in 13-9 from now on. The healing buff should be manageable and overall, this strategy has no waiting involved and the error margin is also distributed quite fairly among the players.

I'll still prefer upper path for myself considering it's often the trickiest one to deal with.

I made the picture and the particular blue path, but the ideas have been known before, and the other path are from Mandalorian99. I just went for this particular balance, and chose for blue to save backtracking by taking on the buffed squad.

Also, if blue has high confidence in their skill, taking that extra camp can save green the initial detour, resulting in very high error margin for the bottom path (which is, with its magic resistance, quite suitable for newbies).

[idle egret]

i prefer this 1.. get the teambuff no backtracking needed..

[rose sequoia]

is this the one i talked about w u?

[void nova]

Yup, I just made some slight adjustments, as I didn't like the upper path of Mandalorian99.

[rose sequoia]

yeah i think for me the trouble is orange should go first but id like to be blue lol

[void nova]

The other thing about this one is, it is very popular among others, and if you change the color scheme, it's Solfors 🙂

[idle egret]

who cares whos it is.... it works just fine.

[void nova]

Same here. So, if someone starts it as orange, I'm very happy to take blue. I prefer taking the hardest path myself, because I know I can take it and I can change my team for the troublesome fights rather than losing a few fights and then ending up 1 step short of clearing the path to the boss.

[void nova]

Well, as long as you don't mind the part where you're waiting, then someone clears the middle path and they're waiting for your action, any path can be fine. There might be even some more interactive ones, but perhaps not in level 9.

You might enjoy my self-titled strategy for level 12 that I played maybe once 😄

There, one path is quite independent, but the other two have to wait for each other all the time 😄

[idle egret]

waiting ... i dont know.. if you start with 2 others that are active .. its just some players think they strong... so me personaly prefer to take that team buff ... just a thought.. no offence ment .

[void nova]

Well, the buff is nice, that's for sure. With it, I once managed to take Galahad to 25 % health when the player on upper path failed ... but the player on bottom path didn't have a big Yasmine, so he was unable to finish him off.

[void nova]

Well, I would quote Master Yi here: "Force is meaningless without skill."
Even if someone has 1.2M power heroes, they can lose 3 fights in a row by ignoring the static buffs and composition.

[rose sequoia]

i ignored corvus w 250% health buff and it did not turn out in my favor 💀 i almost never lose in advs but everything went exactly wrong

on the corvus team was elmir and elmir spawned in his clones... then my aidan did his phoenix glyph which hit all elmirs clones so corvus obliterated aidan and amira died (she was connected to aidan) then heidi died to corvus for obvious reasons

if elmir hadnt done that and aidan hadnt done that then amira wouldve won the fight

[idle egret]

yeah i know... but consider all that being done and so on and on and on and on.. i mean come on... i aint here trying to be right... just saying i prefere the team buff in case... not gonn write a book about it ... wich i am doing right now.. And i think you fully understand what i said and what was not..

[void nova]

Yeah, there are some interesting interactions that don't happen all the time 😄 Anyway, Corvus with +250% health is quite a menace, good thing he can't have the help of Albus as well as an adventure defender, now that would be really nasty.

[placid granite]

Which tank should I level up as Lyria destroys dodge teams?

[pastel roost]

BAH ... 13 - 10 2 days in a row ... you should not make this possible ....

🤮

[void nova]

Well, it is pretty much random as far as I know. Also, 13-10 is not that bad 😄

[pastel roost]

I hate all this random LUCK sh.t in this game ... we should sue them for it

[void nova]

Well, if 13-10 is more than you can handle, feel free to just go for level 12 🙂

I have a fairly good 13-10 strategy that usually works.

But sure, if either of the three adventurers is rather stupid, then 13-10 is a bit too unforgiving for that.

[pastel roost]

I can handle it ... the main thing is to find 2 others who can do it without failure

[clear plaza]

Umm... Did they renumber the nodes on 13-9, or were they always different from the regular adv 9? Because suddenly paths from solfors.com and HW Wiki are all "off".

[near radish]

they were always numbered differently

and not only 13-9... all maps on 13 have different numbering

[wise berry]

@acoustic hornet "jpg scam spam" ?

[acoustic hornet]

4th of them

[wise berry]

didn't realize it was a scam (I didn't click the images and assumed they were game-related)

[acoustic hornet]

good you didnt. i clicked. one had to 😬

[wise berry]

just don't get hacked like Gucky 🙈

looking back at the time it was funny, but when it actually happened it was very disconcerting

[forest sinew]

How do these look like? Just wondering what to watch out for

[wise berry]

just a bunch of fake jpg files

[void nova]

I added a 13-9 strategy to Fandom and yeah, the numbers most certainly differ.

[clear plaza]

Yes, I've double checked and 13-9 is definitely numbered differently.

[void nova]

Either way, my strategy has squad numbers for both 9 and 13-9 (though only 13-9 is tested properly).

[rocky blade]

Corvus at 250% health needs vampirism to safely kill. It's easy with Dorian.

[void nova]

Corvus is generally best killed with use of vampirism, but yeah, with the health buff it is more of a necessity.

[rocky blade]

There's been some renumbering, not necessarily that recently. I have screen captures of changed numbers from quite a few weeks ago, probably more than a month.

[rose sequoia]

amira couldve done it easily

just aidan accidentally committed suicide bc elmir cloned himself

[quiet moat]

Killed adv 13 boss with 95% damage reduction in 1 shot

[simple wadi]

Dante tank also works, assuming no Lyria, his purple skill drastically reduce corvus hp xD

[simple wadi]

Osh team?

[quiet moat]

Ofc what other team would you use one this guy

[void nova]

Well, Isaac with Dorian is fairly popular as well, as the vampirism helps 🙂
Anyway, I think 95% reduction could be too much in 13-11. I recall once taking 13-9 boss three quarters down with the +50% buff though.

[jolly galleon]

interesting ending for 4 chest finish to adventure 13/12

[waxen token]

friends 🙂

[void nova]

A nice group hug 🙂 I did that a few times, but a hug without haptic response feels a bit shallow 😐

[waxen token]

wdym haptic response

[spring karma]

What team?

[quiet moat]

Someone asked already. It's the Osh team

[spring karma]

Thanks

Ju team?

[quiet moat]

Yes

[void nova]

Well, an e-hug feels rather shallow since you can't actually touch the other person 🙂

[quiet moat]

Ratw pets from 1 to 10. Been playing for close to 2 years, f2p

[waxen token]

ah that’s what you mean

[waxen token]

8 very good

[lean heath]

Khorus and Axel highest rate as main pets in battles, Albus most used main pet in Asgard, others all on 3rd shelf

[void nova]

Nice job for f2p. I'd argue that on +3, it is generally good to pick just one of the sides until you are on +3 with most pets, but over-all: You have the most important pets (Khorus, Axel), you nave some other important pets on a high level, and it seems that all your pets are violet 🙂

[quiet moat]

Actually only the pets I've shown are violet. Debris and Merlin aren't useful atm

[void nova]

Agreed, not my favorite pet either 🙂

[quiet moat]

Flexing on the poor

[void nova]

Well, I didn't spend much real money on pets, but one key difference is that I've been playing for almost four years 🙂

[gusty lichen]

nvr noticed this before but martha doesnt heal vs. adv12 boss

neb however can heal...odd

she did die but not until 1:12....understood teapot might be disrupted by cleaver aoe but never a self heal and never a direct heal to isaac...super strange

[void nova]

Does she ever "direct heal"? Is that some 4th skill that I forgot about? Well, nope. That might be Thea or some other healer, Martha doesn't do that. As for her self-heal, note that "The farther the projectile travels, the more health it will restore". Cleaver counters that by grabbing her from the back of the team towards the front where the distance is no longer.

I'm still surprised to see a zero though.

[young pumice]

I was trying to get some help in Adventure 4 to clear the board ALL the way through. But for the last few days, it's been stuck incomplete.

[void nova]

Well ... I would recommend the following troubleshooting:

1. Are you doing a low level adventure for the items? (Stop that! Not worth it.)
2. Is your guild actually alive, or is it undead, a ghost town?
3. Are you a low power player in a fairly strong guild?

[lament python]

Hi, I am writing a little guide and need to list the possible solutions to beat corrupted orion and galahad, so I need your help.
Please only mention the solutions you are certain they work, and do not require maxed heroes (this is mostly for beginners)
The only thing I personnaly validated is using dante to knockback galahad when he is ulting

[forest sinew]

For Orion this is really simple. Anti-osh (with Axel). Doesn’t even need to be strong and everyone should be building anti-osh anyway

For Galahad, a team built around Thea (only her last skill needs to be maxed, otherwise she can even die straight away) and Jhu (with Albus). Thea’s last skill will make sure Jhu stays alive. The choice for the other 3 is basically irrelevant (just choose Some of the most developed ones)

[waxen token]

this is adv 11? I ran axel pet, isaac, dante, seb, dorian, martha. That team was doing 20/20 at 410k power

[brave coral]

For Galahad: Jhu + Dorian (my Jhu is like 130k)

[brave coral]

Okay, I underestimated my Jhu (but I do that for quite a long time)

[rose sequoia]

this may be my first time completing a13-10

[rose sequoia]

u can do jhu + weak thea so he isnt likely to die but galahad doesnt get healing from vamp as jhu recovers health

jhu dorian should work anyway but yk

[lament python]

I am worried that Isaac actually needs to be very strong for this. I remember trying that when I was progressing in adv13, and it was not a very successful strategy. As for thea, I never realized how potent this could be Jhu, thank you. You mean the talent works even after she dies, doesn't you?

[lament python]

Sorry, I should have specified it was for adv13-9 and 13-11 when galahad and orion are much stronger.

[lament python]

Thank you very much, is it for adv 9 or 13-9 though?

[lament python]

Jhu-dorian-thea could work even better following this logic. This is a cheap and easy solution for most players

[brave coral]

13-Galahad

[lament python]

Great, thank you

[forest sinew]

"You mean the talent works even after she dies, doesn't you?" - Yes, exactly.

"I am worried that Isaac actually needs to be very strong for this." - It's a very long time since my Isaac was not at (recommended) max 🤣 . But I do remember that I definitely didn't have anywhere near 1M power during my 1st boss kill in Adv 13-11. Maybe 700k? In any case, people should be building anti-osh anyway (loads of use cases in the game), so for a guide for beginners' guide best to recommend them a team that isn't too much extra effort to build 😉

[rose sequoia]

yeah but galahad will still vamp off jhus vamp then

[lament python]

Ok, Isee what you mean, I did not understand in your previous message you were arguing against Dorian. Can he still survives without Dorian though? It seems quite random

[wise berry]

jhu can survive without dorian

[brave coral]

I'm not experienced with Thea, but for Dorian is sure that Jhu can't die

[rose sequoia]

im pretty sure it works w high consistency but i think jhu dorian is also relatively safe, just if ur jhu is not strong then galahad might not die

[keen gazelle]

it was for adv 12-25 when rufus are much stronger and immortal, just rufus alone i defeated three times

[rose sequoia]

was it his violet skill?

[wise berry]

favourite route to clear adv 13-9 without waiting

[idle egret]

🤦‍♂️

[wise berry]

what?

[gusty lichen]

39sec boss kill adv13-11. anyone beat that? https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1753238137306913139

[void nova]

That is a mystery to me what path you took. I went for my own strategy, but it didn't go all according to the plan ... and yet, with one misstep, it was still 4-chest finish 😄

I even made some alteration of my middle path to improve boss chest safety as nobody could cover for me anymore.

I suppose that with what I said, someone who knows Kokoth strategy for 13-10 can figure out what happened there 😄

[rose sequoia]

what path i took seems obvious to me

im bottom path

[void nova]

Yeah, the bottom path is quite similar for many strategies, but the other two are quite mysterious to me.

[rose sequoia]

its somewhere on hw wiki probably

[void nova]

As for my map, the adaptation was that #44 ended up free for grabs, so rather than risking losing the boss chest, I skipped #29 and took #44 as last.

[void nova]

Ah, I see, Xahariel / Hericus. Interesting strategy, but a bit too many of waiting cycles for my taste.

I'm more willing to take on buffed camps with +300% damage than to wait 😄

[rose sequoia]

seems like this

im on phone sorry

[drowsy storm]

How do you beat a Lyria, elmir, guus, nebula, polaris team. It has been holding us back in an adventure 11. Thank you for your thoughts

[quiet moat]

4th abs star, 2nd fully maxed

[rose sequoia]

more maxed pets than me lol

[quiet moat]

I mean I've been playing for 2 years by now

[rose sequoia]

yes but my pets r better thats why i think its funny

[dry prawn]

How do I get more JUMPs?

[forest sinew]

Hmm, why do all the scammers love the 'adventures' channel so much?

[forest sinew]

You don't. Either your guildmates can finish the rest without you, or you have to try again next time

[dry prawn]

Thank you, that helps.

[sick jungle]

I warn my guild in chat when testing an adventure for the first time, to test my teams strength. Just to see if it is possible to complete with 3 people. and not waste their time and PCs.

[waxen token]

Fun finish on adv 12. Everything cleared, 2 moves left and we end right back at the start. Would have 4 moves leftover if didnt go to the start

[void nova]

One thing I can still enjoy. Bringing people to try adventures they haven't played before much, or not at all. Bottom player was still doing level 11 adventure not too long ago out of convenience, and top player tested some setup against Ginger that didn't work.

I smashed her quite reliably with this setup, even though there was some marksman buff. I wouldn't be too afraid to go against 300% buff, either.

[fossil comet]

🦫

[forest sinew]

Thanks Gucky!

[prisma elbow]

What could I change to win this? Only fail in adventure 12. I only have Sebastian, Dante and Nebula to swap Celesete/Astaroth

[simple berry]

delete your acc since you got a 150k yasmine

[prisma elbow]

What’s the limit for her?

[brave coral]

Yasmin is simply a bad hero

[dark heart]

Yasmin up

[wise berry]

use seb (you need him to counter the control) instead of astaroth

[prisma elbow]

Thank you!

[wise berry]

no guarantee it works (you have an unusual team) but it should help

[quiet moat]

Here's a tip,.get equal pets for patronages

[lament python]

This is a bad team overall. I suggest you start ditching Celeste as she brings little to this team, and replace her with Lara next week. Once Lara get strong enough, replace Yasmine by Neb. Later replace Neb by Seb (he needs to be near maxed), Martha/Asta by something like Galahad-Tristan, Lyria-Aidan, ...

Also you will need a good magic dps for physical-resistant spots, so get Orion+Neb ready to be swapped on the spot

[prisma elbow]

That’s something I’ll save to notes. Thanks a lot. Appreciate that.

[lament python]

You're welcome. Also use Khorus as team pet when you do not have a strong Seb, since crowd control can easily decimate your team

[prisma elbow]

I’ve got him at blue rank or something like that, and at lvl 109. So I just use Axel as it’s at least at lvl 130 and almost maxes gems.

[forest sinew]

I think this channel should be renamed to 'MEE6-flexing' 🤣

[green spoke]

Yes @forest sinew

[wise berry]

which pet to abs star next?

[idle egret]

wich ever you want

[simple berry]

oliver or axell

since cute

[wise berry]

They really seem to like this channel 🤔

[simple berry]

no need to ping them twice for 2 continuous spams lol

[forest sinew]

Axel. Also highly recommend to push his left and right side stones to max

[void nova]

Difficult without Isaac, but perhaps you're losing to stuns, in which case you should never forget the raven as a pet (and potentially also Sebastian). Meanwhile, the weak Asta might be fairly unimportant (and slows down Yasmine), and weak Celeste barely does anything at all.

[void nova]

Nonsense, having an unnecessary hero still doesn't make it easier to start from scratch.

[void nova]

Surprisingly she had a bit of a revival since Lyria showed up, as Lyria empowered Galahad and Yasmine is one of the hardest counters to Galahad (often removing his healing entirely). She's also useful in 13-9 to bruteforce the boss when a teammate failed their path.

[void nova]

Someone said level 13 raids suck. I politely disagree. I think they're quite good and even if you get unlucky, the amount of potions is generally much higher than in lower levels.

[wise berry]

Raiding adv 13 is great

What did they prefer to do, raid lower adv or do two adventures per day?

[void nova]

Not sure where the message was, probably somewhere in #💬general ... and I think the idea was that the raid doesn't give good rewards. My initial assumption is that it was a player who just started with level 13 recently, with good luck on rewards after completing it and worse rewards during raids so far, making generalizations prematurely.

[gusty lichen]

Adventure 13-10: no celeste, no yasmine, no problem 🙂

just spam dodge and armor (at one point martha had 7ults up equivalent to 351,330 armor --- Ginger Boss

or 98.9% damage mitigation

may try axel next time as team pet and see if Jhu can survive better

[wise berry]

💯 ginger is one of the easiest bosses to fight

[gusty lichen]

oh i always avoid 13-10..first time fighting her! haha

[wise berry]

13-10 is harder because of the lack of margin for error, the boss is one of the easiest 🙂

[rose jungle]

nebs carrying with the dodge

[rose sequoia]

obviously khorus

[rose sequoia]

i put axel active + cain patronage on heidi + thea (so ults trigger active healing rather than just armor) + iris or jhu or whomever else i want

[rose sequoia]

buffed squads ez

[wooden stag]

play crasy

[barren kettle]

What is the website where all adventures map nd how to go is marked there

[vague valley]

You can use these: https://www.solfors.com/ or https://oaslo.com/en/ for adventure maps

[forest sinew]

https://hero-wars.fandom.com/wiki/Adventures

[forest sinew]

x2

[still mirage]

🙂

[forest sinew]

lol

[idle egret]

👀

[idle egret]

never seen that happen before.... freezes time and kills entire team with that skill....

[still mirage]

its a 95% damage reduction node and Ziri reflection and Lara healing+Dorian aura+dodge made a perfect ult loop

[idle egret]

stumbled upon it or are you that skilled that you knew that what was going to happen?

[still mirage]

i didnt know it would spam like this but i knew i can beat the team even with 95% damage reduction

[waxen token]

how tf did that ult so many times in a second, go put that in world record or smth lol

[rose jungle]

tf

[static drift]

tf

[chilly crane]

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[chilly crane]

darkfictionauth has been warned

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[chilly crane]

elpimente444 has been warned

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[forest sinew]

<@&729965095974731787> please get rid of this crap

[fossil comet]

🦫

[forest sinew]

Btw, I don't have access to the https://discord.com/channels/499876409125371907/993813003160002622channel, but maybe it would be worth while deleting and recreating this channel. The **** behind this clearly scraped the URL of this channel, so if that changes, his stupid script will fail (and I doubt he will even notice)

[void nova]

LoL! I tried something different this time. And damn, with control swiftness, my first attempt at boss ended up with disaster as Yasmine died and the damage + extra healing healed him back to full. 2nd attempt Axel saved it.

[forest sinew]

<@&729965095974731787> please get rid of this crap!

[fossil comet]

🦫

[forest sinew]

Thanks Gucky!

[forest sinew]

<@&729965095974731787> @bold spoke thinks he's smart again

[rose jungle]

why did i find a seb tank team in adventures...

[wise berry]

bc adv teams r random and usually pretty bad

[rose jungle]

frfr

[chilly crane]

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[silk furnace]

just need 100 chests for first abs pet 🙏

[wise berry]

@void nova ty for the route (probably not how you intended it to be used tho), messed up my first hit against 31 but other than that it went surprisingly well 😄

[void nova]

Yeah, well ... #31 is a serious buff if I recall. I tend to ignore the +300% damage on #8 as well though.

I usually stop at the buff and wait for the others, one defeat can be quite hurtful in a map that doesn't tolerate mistakes much.

[wise berry]

#31 has a 300% energy increase and a 300% damage increase, I got lucky that it has a relatively weak team today

[void nova]

Yeah, energy increase is one of the buffs I dislike going against. +500% healing is usually fine, +300% damage as well, but the other two are usually a no-go for me unless I'm too damn impatient and I can afford a mistake.

For example I managed to kill 13-12 boss with 95% resistance buff, but it was a tricky fight.

[wise berry]

I usually don't mind energy gain by itself (usually need a quick-kill or control team) but this is my first time doing a combo buff and it makes it quite a bit trickier

[wise berry]

<@&729965095974731787> spam (with a link that leads who-knows where)

[void nova]

Overachievers in 13-9 😄

[forest sinew]

<@&729965095974731787> @obtuse cairn and @pseudo onyx want to be kicked

Thanks Gucky!

[drifting prism]

does augustus superconductivity is blocked by the 100% anti magic buff ?

[wise berry]

yes

[still robin]

Can a player close the adventure by leaving it (he is alone in adventure)

[teal niche]

Yeap

[still robin]

Thank you 🙂

[obtuse mural]

Hi, how to know when my guildmates and i are ready for adventure 13, which one would be the easiest adv 13? to try as first time? would it be 13-9 ?

[forest sinew]

13-12 is the easiest. 2nd would be 13-9, then 13-11. And 13-10 is the hardest of all

[obtuse mural]

Do they have adjusted power or do they have the same power of the map (9-12), with the corresponding buff of the lvl 13?

[wise berry]

They all have roughly the same power

All the adventure teams are about 650k

(for all adventure 13s)

All the damage reduction buffs are 100% for their type of damage, and adv 13 also has substantial health and damage buffs

13-12 is usually considered the easiest, then maps 11 and 9, and lastly the adventure 10 map

[void nova]

Testing my patience? Looks like I failed that part 😄 It took 3 attacks to wear him down tho.

No idea what is the best setup for 13-9, but I'd be very surprised if it didn't involve Yasmine.

[versed trench]

this is 13 ? what was your team ?

[void nova]

This was the matchup. Most of damage dealt came from Lara, but Yasmine's anti-healing was quite instrumental I suppose.

And yeah, level 13. I'm trying to get ppl to start using a strategy that doesn't require any waiting, so I'm very much willing to troll by spending 3 AP on killing a buffed boss 😄

[versed trench]

I though i was a pro for not waiting for 13-12
it seem there is a lot i don’t know 🙂

[void nova]

Well, nobody knows everything 🙂 I wouldn't be surprised if there was a setup that is even better 🙂

[obtuse mural]

Ty, was confused by the oaslo pwr figures of maps 13s

[rose sequoia]

jhu solo

oh buffed boss hm which buffs?

[void nova]

95% resistance and +500% healing. Jhu solo wouldn't leave a scratch 😄

[rose sequoia]

jhu solo would def leave a scratch, 500% healing wouldnt matter. 95% dmg res tho

prob need more than three action points for that 😂

how much health does he have again

[void nova]

Well, Galahad would regen a lot less against just one hero, sure. But I'd expect him to heal most of the damage taken.

[rose sequoia]

not against jhu, stays at 1 hp most of the time

thats why jhu solo is typically recommended over jhu dorian

jhu green skill would do ~3.5k pure per attack so divide gala health by that to see approx how many attacks it would take. then add on like 50 more attacks cuz gala vamp

[void nova]

6.5M health. Anyway, I doubt Jhu would do well against that with no buffs from other heroes.

[rose sequoia]

6.5m? no way

a13 bosses have health in the millions?

i never noticed 💀

[void nova]

Well, they would be too easy if the didn't, right? 🙂

[rose sequoia]

wait can u send a replay of the boss battle

[void nova]

Not sure if I've ever killed one before 30 seconds.

[rose sequoia]

i lowk didnt expect the health to be so high wtf

theyre always so easy i just skip unless its ginger then i watch the dodge artis stack up 😋

[void nova]

Sure I can. But can you watch it? 🙂
https://apps.facebook.com/mobaheroes?replay_id=1761051717436786141

[rose sequoia]

im not logged into fb on this laptop

can u take a screenshot

of the bosses health lol

[void nova]

Well, there isn't much to see there, or is it?

[rose sequoia]

idk i just wanna see if my eyes believe it

[rose sequoia]

yeah damn thats crazy

that would take jhu solo approx 2k attacks

so uh hed be there for a while

im thinking maybe some yas orion augustus?

healing block valuable fs, orion augustus just generally cracked

[void nova]

If I recall, there is a maximum damage you can deal to the boss with one attack. It makes Yas a good boss killer, and probably makes Gus quite bad.

[rose sequoia]

yes but w 95% that should be negligible

plus orion does hella boss dmg

[void nova]

True, it could work if Yasmine was the only physical/pure dealer and the rest of team was magic. Perhaps even Celeste to fight even better against healing, the bugger still healed 2.4M health back even with Yasmine in.

anyway, g2g 🙂

[rose sequoia]

bye

[bright moat]

i'm stuck at adventure 7, each team that i bring for boss fight will die under 30sec and cant do more than 15~20% damage to boss
can someone help me figure out how i can solo adventure 7 ?
what team build it needs and how much power it requires ?

[teal niche]

Adventure is not a solo game mode

you need two more player

[bright moat]

ik, but i dont have guild

[teal niche]

💀

[teal niche]

you look familiar, anyway get into a guild

[bright moat]

i'm trying to find one,
but can you help me with adventure 7 pls?
i can do up to 6 but no luck on 7

[teal niche]

as i said before, you can't

[lament python]

The boss is Orion, isn't it? Isaac can do wonder if strong enough. Or a character with silence, such as Thea. Or maybe Aurora for her magic reflexion and high health (not sure). You could bring a team with high magic defense, especially a magdef artifact. Anyway I do not advise to grow a team just for him: just get your main team stronger and you will flatten him

[ionic palm]

So, for the free emeralds" thing do I need to keep myself online all the time while playing it, or click the tab and then I can go offline? Also, does this need to be done EVERY time before I open the tab again?

Whoops. Wrong chat again. Sorry everyone.

[forest sinew]

Dude, just join any not completely inactive guild that matches your power ....

Anything is better than an inactive guild at this point. You're missing out on all the guild stuff (activity/titanite/prestige/GW/CoW/Asgard/Adventure rewards)

[keen vale]

Why Lara croft no in adventure

[smoky pollen]

you need a guild bro , otherwise youll miss a lot

[ornate geyser]

you def need a guild, i would even take a bronze guild over a crappy gold guild that sweeps thru inactive players ngl

also, some adventures are impossible to defeat without guildmates

you cant face the boss when it has 160% damage reduction so yeah

[warm karma]

Adventure Improvements:
1 - Allow players to help each other at no cost. Portals will only be consumed when players decide to collect the chests. This way, we can help a larger number of companions and everyone is satisfied.

2 - Allow Guild Masters and Generals to pre-establish routes for adventures, which reduces route errors and dissatisfaction. (This would only be done once - it is not necessary to do this at the start of each adventure). The player who started the adventure can allow route changes, if necessary, through a checkbox.

3 - Once the routes are plotted, players who are far above the level required to complete the adventure can simulate all the battles on their route at once. There is no need to fight each battle. Players who have completed adventure 13 can simulate all of them. And others can simulate their maximum adventure -2. Example: If a player's highest successful adventure is 11, he could simulate route battles up to adventure 9.

4 - Allow the removal of players who have been inactive for a long time, giving others the opportunity to join the adventure. This is especially important because some are known for not completing their tasks.

[ornate geyser]

i kinda disagree...

i feel like pre-establishing routes should not be manditory

like they should be more like suggestions (like the suggestions on guild war, you dont have to follow them if theyre idiotic)

in fact, i NEVER follow them if theyre idiotic, as my gm and generals do not have enough time to simulate battles for me

and if i cant win i just choose a different target and let them know

however ur proposal makes it too rigid i think, they should be more suggestion-based

(also theres the problem that this issue only happens with lower level guilds i think?)

i dont think active guilds have a problem with guildmates abandoning adventures because that is grounds for dismissal (in my guild anyways)

[warm karma]

Regarding the routes, I'm referring to the models that facilitate the counting of movements so that it's possible to get all the chests. Some companions need this help because they are embarking on new adventures.

I think it's clear that the routes could be altered if necessary by the player who started the adventure.

Furthermore, the purpose of the routes is to allow each player, not the guild master or general, as you misunderstood, to simulate battles without needing to fight them.

If my team already has no difficulty winning adventure 13, why do I need to fight every battle in adventure 11 when I'm going to help my companions? It's not possible to use the raid button when it comes to helping a companion. Do you understand the point?

[ornate geyser]

i mean, for the routes, i think all players should be able to alter it? because if players in an adventure are in different time zones it could waste a day or more before the route got changed

[warm karma]

Sorry for the delay. I'm not very active here. I think ideally only the player who started the adventure should be able to allow route changes via a checkbox.
The time zone difference isn't the main issue for me, as I consider the ability to raid after a successful adventure more important. But everything is open to discussion. I made a suggestion based on the problems I've noticed.
Not being able to guarantee that all companions receive help due to a lack of personnel and portals is the biggest issue for me. Allowing route battle simulation is a quality-of-life improvement that makes the gaming experience faster – which is extremely necessary over time.

[ornate geyser]

ah yeah that makes sense i suppose

[chilly crane]

busumihai has been warned

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[wise berry]

<@&729965095974731787>

[ornate geyser]

i suppose instances like this are rather... annoying...

as it turns out i have not completeted adventure 10 5 times and i was going to raid it a bunch of times to get the portal charge bonus but...

[teal niche]

Did you figure out why you lose?

[ornate geyser]

thats my teammate

😭