adventures

[stark axle]

https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1721062623107516401
13s left on the clock lol

[placid granite]

Does Orion come back to the Top Ten after this update?

[rose sequoia]

Doubt it

[terse flame]

not with Isaac around

[rocky blade]

That's why I suggested adventure 11,
If you enter first you do the middle path with no buff blocking your path, and if the others play properly when you're second or third, the first has advanced enough on middle path to remove the buffs.
If you're second, you will have to stop before the boss because of the buff, but the third will be able to attack him without requiring you to do anyhting more.

[acoustic dagger]

adven 11 kinda sucks

12-13 is as low as i go

[gleaming sage]

12 and 13-12 is best. also 13-9

no block path ofc

[stark axle]

13-11 is also easy, middle just needs to be a bit flexible or have heidi

[somber flume]

13-11 and 13-9 are really annoying here since ppl fail their paths quite often. At least if ppl fail 13-12 we can salvage the boss

or even still get 4 chests

but if ppl fail path in 13-11 or 13-9 then it's buffed boss and i'm not strong enough to deal with that crap

[stark axle]

u (as a guild) will soon 🙂

[blazing yew]

what on earth

[tawdry plinth]

you already own the titan named victory, so got 20 points and 30 soul stones for him. You can also look at the "Victory" Titan's info! (joke)

[remote patrol]

Where do I find more emeralds

[rose sequoia]

This has happened to me before too

You did a summoning, got Mort, but it didn't show (for some reason, sometimes only shows one unlock)

So during later gameplay when you complete certain actions, then the unlocks show one by one

[stark axle]

grind arena

[blazing yew]

Oh i see thanks for the info :P

[blazing yew]

ahh ok makes sense

thx

[vague valley]

lol

[jaunty pine]

#💬general message

[tawdry plinth]

and what on mars?

[vague valley]

ok ok?

wich is real?

[rose sequoia]

Never seen a skin purchase be that delayed

[vague valley]

same happened to me

[blazing yew]

😂

[frozen cargo]

I had something like this happen with Titan souls, it kept saying I Would get a high roll for titan souls whenever I opened anything.

Classic.

[pulsar osprey]

https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1721836235713554116

[frozen cargo]

Context?

[frozen cargo]

Plenty of room to win in adventure 12... Assuming the other bucks performed adequately.

[waxen gyro]

how do i get a pet to 6 stars

[near radish]

same way as heroes - collect enough soul stones then evolve

though it takes much longer

[candid prairie]

If summoning eggs take too much time, then buy pet soul chests during the great storm events

[waxen gyro]

ok

[tame sundial]

wow what a good teammate 😭

[silver fable]

In 15-step adventures, it is difficult to coordinate the right steps, because the levels of the adventure sometimes need to be changed due to the event missions.(for destroy buff towers or claim buff) So i not doing always same adventure!
Would be nice when the Game support the www.solfors.com adventure maps descriptions, When copy a path in game chat(or a new window) like this, map8 :
Blue: 03-02-06-07-09-10-13-17-16-20-22-21-28-Boss(x2)
Orange: 03-05-07-09-11-14-18-20-22-24-27-30-26-29-25
Green: 03-04-08-07-09-11-15-19-20-22-23-31-Boss(x3)
Then the game draw the three color line in the adventure map by the route wrote.
Player can chose one color in game by menu and / or when write in adventure chat one of this color: Blue , Orange , Green
Then the player get the selected color on name border, at the upper corner and on the map field too.

[whole marsh]

I think they will never support any, even good third parties

[frozen cargo]

The good news is, if you Raid the adventures, you get max possible buff towers. The only one you have to worry about is using a specific hero type or defeating a specific hero type. We get 2 portal charges a day right now so this should be a walk in the park.

[silver fable]

Unfortunatly i get only daily 1 portal charges, because i can not reach the for the second from guild quest, for this reason when have an adventure based event quest i do lower map that fitt to the quest

[frozen cargo]

Why not?

What is holding you back?

Some maps, you can get all of the buff towers in one go. I don't remember which, 7 perhaps. But you can't kill the boss if you do

[dry zenith]

all 3 routes will allow you to get 3 buffs in adventure 11 and the middle gives 4 or more buff towers

[silver fable]

some day ago i do level 8 map, before i do 7, and yes i do step by step level adventures to farm out all gems for to all pets. and my main teams power 270014, i can hit the buffed slot too, but risky on map 8. so i need waiting the others to elliminate it. Always i start the adventure, and for this reason my path selection limited.
For example map7 green path no have buffer point, and have 2 eye tower buff, but the last is reacable for Orenge path too, when boss defeated, so mostly not available. Because at workday i start morning, and can continue at evening.
Anyway this adventure 8 map, no have issue with buffer, 2 buffer point for all player, and enough tower on all path. But yesterday the two others confusing the planned path, and crossed each others...

[near radish]

but you still can keep some portal charges you get from gifts in mailbox to have some spare in case of events

[silver fable]

Yes of course i holding the mailbox gift portal charges, and if no have other way, i use it.

[frozen cargo]

There are more than one paths. It helps to have established path choices in advance. Do you and your buddies play exclusively based on the oath from Solfors smart ones web site? Or do they get the path from google or wiki?

[silver fable]

only for Solfors it is a Guild rule, pinned top of the guild chat. Risk for kicking out from the guild when not follow this.

[frozen cargo]

Pish posh. If you have a better rout with clear and obvious alternatives... It makes you stronger to adapt.

[silver fable]

it's not problem when all player can open to all loot box. If not, we writing the problem on guild chat, anyway me too, because i like opening all boxes. Not tolerate if someone do alternate move to get faster the event quest at expense to other players.

[frozen cargo]

That is true, and different. If you are planning on failing the adventure in favor of taking event objectives, that should be made clear. Or done in private.

[silver fable]

add two level of online marker to player show when online and another if online and inside the adventure

[whole marsh]

thts a very good idea but in the guild tab you can see if the player is online or not

so ig only 1? 🤔

[silver fable]

the problem is the difficoult adventures that the 3 player not work together is same time and game not supported it. For example also a good idea a button to player when another is online and not inside the adventure view, can bring hem "coming" i wait here we can resolv now the map

actually now we resolt a map 16 - 20 hours

[frozen cargo]

Best result... Coordinate in advance.

[silver fable]

we do daily, some player want more than one a day, and the players always changing, because not everione have free time and its a game not a weekly - daily planner

also a good point when the game show different marker the Adventure sign on the main guild / city screen when happened anithing in Adventure that the last time i showed it inside. Join a new player, someone moved...

[blazing yew]

does anyone know what this is

nvm i found it

lol

[whole marsh]

yup congrats = )

[blazing yew]

thanks :)

[terse flame]

still a long way to go lol

[unreal gyro]

got 3 pets to violet

[gleaming sage]

congrats

[frozen cargo]

Only 2 more to go and 4 more years to get good.

[waxen gyro]

i need cleaver and i will have every hero in the game why is he so hard to get 😦

how am i going to get him absolute star ever

[whole marsh]

365 summons

[waxen gyro]

i know but that takes a long time

[whole marsh]

dats how I got, by completing quest

not free tho I played for more than 2 yrs

[frozen cargo]

You get cleaver dor free after opening 350 soul atrium... Everyone gets cleaver.

[waxen gyro]

i just got jet today and am going to put him in my team asap

[whole marsh]

oh right 350 not 365

[frozen cargo]

You get 2 per day.

So it should take 6 months.

[waxen gyro]

i dont know what summon im on though

this is my team usually i use thea as my healer but jet is better so im leveling him up

[frozen cargo]

Are you getting heroes still?

[waxen gyro]

what do you mean

[whole marsh]

yeah I tried to find a spreadsheet for all guaranteed rewards but couldnt find

[waxen gyro]

i only need cleaver and i will have every hero

[frozen cargo]

Every 10 openings, you get heros... Or you get guardian boxes.

[waxen gyro]

oh yes i am at fafnir

[frozen cargo]

Then, you have a long way to go. Probably 4 months.

[waxen gyro]

oh great

i have to much energy

and i also have 24 bottles of energy

how do i get rid of it please help me

i just keep getting more

[frozen cargo]

Not using it leads to wasted energy. Your best bet is to buy something and get Raid. Raid ticket is a rare drop from winterfest if you can wait 5 more months.

[waxen gyro]

imean i will still have a lot in 5 months

and i use as much as i can i just get more than i spend

[frozen cargo]

For best result, use the energy you get daily including the 1 per 6 minutes and 380 from daily tasks... And don't accept mail with energy unless it is time sensitive. Mail with 500 energy stays permanently... So no need to accept it.

[frozen cargo]

No. Shame on you.

[pale mortar]

what team is best against this enemy? my friends lost 3 times against this enemy lol

[brave coral]

What heroes has he developed?

[frozen cargo]

Did your friend use Physical attackers? I would probably go with an Aurora team. Aurora, Nebula, Heidi, Thea and someone else, perhaps Dorian or Orion. This is just a baseline for testing, I would probably have to look deeper before finding a proper team.

[brave coral]

Mushi is good with the right team.

[pale mortar]

i posted his best teams above your comment. and it looks like he doesn't use mage heroes

[brave coral]

Do you know how Yasmin's poison is working against such buffs?

[pale mortar]

nah i don't know but he tried i guess

that K'rach killing his whole team lol

[brave coral]

Has he Axell?

[pale mortar]

yes he does

😭

[brave coral]

I would suggest Mushi, Corvus, Galahad, Nebula and Sebastian - Albus. With some manual play of Galahad.

You have two armor artefacts, they should be able to deal with K'arkh.

[pale mortar]

all the 3 loses

[brave coral]

Illusionary giants...

That'll be hard.

[pale mortar]

lol his team power is 700

[brave coral]

When I saw the heroes, I thought that it would be <1M.

[hazy mural]

I use meaty tank + Heidi iris Dorian

Aurora probably solos it too

[somber flume]

aurora might be tough without mp hero, since it;s support energy and thea will spam md arti

[hazy mural]

Maxed aurora gonna truck.that though

Just run aurora with Isaac if you're worried about thea heal.spam

I just use Heidi iris Dorian for phys resist nodes

My aurora isn't that big yet only 135 or something

And lacking magic atk

[somber flume]

hid is busted in adventure, although you still need like 100-120k power to work properly. Weaker ones are susceptible to various stuffs, mainly things that kills you before you manage to kill them.

if you're jsut bringing 150k+ heroes then theres no need to worry anyways

but apparently that guy only have 100-120k heroes. And not ideal ones for phys immune route. Maybe mushy+neb is the best bet

[waxen gyro]

there is going to be a new hero?

[brave coral]

Yes.

[frozen cargo]

Some time in 2024

[brave coral]

Maybe 😁

[near radish]

like every year - in december

[waxen gyro]

who

[frozen cargo]

No one can be told who the new hero will be. You have to see them for yourself.

[waxen gyro]

ok

is it another normal one or is it hard to get it's soul stones? like cleaver or lara

im curious

sorry if we cant know that either

[whole marsh]

dont know they didnt give us any info abt tht

[waxen gyro]

ok

[frozen cargo]

The Collaboration event may be a hero and may have limited time resources. Or, it might not. It could be a pet, and maybe it will be a permanent addition.

[whole marsh]

Imagine Pepe pet 😬

[frozen cargo]

Could be nice. Not sure what his skills would be.

[whole marsh]

hmph 🤔

[waxen gyro]

ok thanks

[near radish]

intorducing new december heroes was always same - first some soul stanoes available from event, then several months without any new soulstones available and then they added somewhere

[stark axle]

she doesnt, she needs physical hits to crit and crits to apply poison

[stark axle]

u need to plan better to avoid having physical players in magical routes.
i wouldnt really blame your guildmate alone if he wasnt the first to open the adventure. then its entirely his fault and u need to talk with him to avoid this in the future

the only 2 heros doing some damage here are mushy and galahad, both tanks and not helping each other. nebula could buff galahad tho

[pale mortar]

Now our hope for adv13 is over only one mate have decent mage team all others are physical damage heros

[stark axle]

building a mage "team" on top of a physical one isnt that hard, i just got one extra hero to around 100k to be able to do them most days.

depends a bit on your team ofc, having aurora as a main tank helps a lot

so if u have a physical player with aurora, they could just get heidi to 100k and ur ready

or this guy here, mushy should also work

[pale mortar]

If Iris and Aurora counts as mage heroes. That’s good for me

[stark axle]

i used those mainly

aurora-cel-iris-seb-isaac was my adventure main team for around a year lol

i only swaped for rufus and used it against all static resistance buffs

iris alone wont be enough, as the phys res also applys to the soul but as soon as u have something that hits the soul with magic/pure ur good

aurora does that

[pale mortar]

I can add Celeste and Polaris. Heidi not ready yet

[stark axle]

if ur celeste is strong enough, even a 80k iris will be enough. i was able to do adventure 13 daily as soon as my iris had 80k 🙂

how strong is your iris and your oli (i used oli partonage on iris to help keeping her alive)

[pale mortar]

Amira 49 power orange 1
Celeste power 45 orange 2
Polars power 40 orange
Heidi 28 power purple that’s all

[pale mortar]

My iris is 80 red

[stark axle]

hm ok i had:
aurora 140k
cel 120k
iris 80k
when i started doing 13s daily.

but weaker will work with good buffs i think

[pale mortar]

I tried 2 times adv13 and I cleared my paths without losing but mage buffed paths

[stark axle]

nice

[idle egret]

https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1722753168161845014 adv 13 map 12 boss.

[bright phoenix]

I think that adventures now are too easy after introducing Red Artifacts and became completely uninterested part of game. How can we make it harder ?

[near radish]

adventures became to easy since introduction of asgard

[frozen cargo]

Eventually, we outgrow all of the game content.

[versed trench]

agree it a joke nowa and also how long it take to max 1 pet

[stark axle]

yea, they used to be my favorite part of the game, i demand new levels since over a year now

bc since agard its getting too easy

[frozen cargo]

They have stated clearly that they do not intend to add new adventures.

[stark axle]

nice 😂

thanks, i missed that i guess

[main briar]

Unless one chooses to splurge on dominion bundles containing pet resources, portal anomaly and great storm events are pretty good for stocking up as well

[clear plaza]

Being blocked from inviting friends if they "joined another adventure" is pretty annoying. If you agree, please star (= react with ⭐) this: #💁ask-for-help message

[quiet moat]

When the buffs are amazing but it's adventure 10 map

[lyric depot]

🤦

[frozen cargo]

Gather some friends and run it together. You can do it if you coordinate.

[quiet moat]

I have 660k team power. I bet I'll find a team that needs 2 shots 100%

[vague valley]

well?

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[rose sequoia]

Give credit to the owner 😔

[vague valley]

lol wondered if one of you would come here

[placid granite]

Who is the boss of AD13? If Ginger, I logout and then raid.

[rose sequoia]

Look in the little window

It shows who the boss is

Is that what you're talking about?

[placid granite]

I stay in the adventure game, so I can't look in the little window.

[rose sequoia]

I think Ginger was yesterday

Today would be someone else

@idle egret I see you're online?

@violet cloak can you check which adv a13 is rn

Ik you retired from HW but just

[violet cloak]

In the midst of a game of risk, should be done soon, so I’ll do it then.

[rose sequoia]

Bruh

Okay thanks tho

[violet cloak]

Sound good?

[rose sequoia]

Yeah

[idle egret]

Map 12

[rose sequoia]

Okay thanks

[idle egret]

anytime

[rose sequoia]

Let me unblock you I feel like it's just annoying to reveal msgs and you haven't done anything in a while to make me mad

@placid granite a13-12 is the map rn

[idle egret]

Thank you 😉

[rose sequoia]

Ofc 😄

[violet cloak]

It’s cleaver.

[rose sequoia]

Yeah got it thanks

I love Cleavage ❤️‍🔥

[violet cloak]

Yep.

[rose sequoia]

What a chill response to my unabashed love for Cleavage

[hazy mural]

Global domination?

[violet cloak]

Indeed! This was a few hours after a tourney game, so was chillin with some other guys for a bit afterwards.

[vague valley]

Yay

[frozen cargo]

Thought that was the elemental tournament frame for a second

[dense escarp]

Nicely done😉

[vague valley]

Even if elements tournament,I'm not sending it here, in dreams ofc..
lol

[dense escarp]

🫥

[vague valley]

🙈

[dense escarp]

I have that frame🙈

[vague valley]

Whale

[dense escarp]

fish

[whole marsh]

📣lodon

[dense escarp]

Eh?

[vague valley]

🪼

[dense escarp]

🫠

[stark axle]

reptile

[dense escarp]

🙈

[proud ember]

>

[quiet moat]

Adventure 13 squat 25. Corvus with 250% health buff..

It took me 7 attempts and I looked like a disappointment

Also Amira had 100% energy increase

[whole marsh]

it took me 4 attacks tday too 🥹

[quiet moat]

I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one to disappoint my guildmates

[hazy mural]

Only took me one attack

I just used a normal Dante iris team

[jaunty pine]

hi

i want xpp

[dense escarp]

👀

[jaunty pine]

nice

[brave coral]

Creative spam now?
Btw his team is on the left.

[jaunty pine]

💀

[quiet moat]

This guys actually did 4 chests and weren't even slightly mad about me wasting 7 moves

I don't deserve such guildmates ngl

[frozen cargo]

12 is convenient like that. There are 72 ways to complete that adventure and all of them are easy. 9, 10, 11... Not so forgiving.

[dense escarp]

adventure 12 has many ways you can go, so it's quite normal😉

[hazy mural]

10 is just bad design IMO

Rest are fine, some more forgiving than others

[dense escarp]

Indeed and is the reason why even whales avoid it. Too much and one loss would ruin your chance on getting 4 chests, if you were to lose in 9,11 and 12, you would be able to get 4 since you get extra action points.

[whole marsh]

5 lose is the highest so yea 😓

(in the solfors path, ofc)

[hazy mural]

its just massively unforgiving no1 can fail 1 attack vs 12 where theres like idk how many "extra" attacks like 10 or something

[dense escarp]

yeah, it really sucks

[hot chasm]

your name lol

[rocky blade]

No you don't need to worry about this either, they're auto completed with raid too.
The only thing that's not auto completed is if the map doesn't have enough of the item to complete. For example if there's 3 eyes of the beholder on the map, then a raid will only count for 3 and can't auto complete a quest for 5. But then we're talking about the whole map, it doesn't matter if the number of action points would never allow you to visit all three of them, the 3 will still be counted in the raid.

[wise berry]

😬 I like keira + dorian for that team, so wouldn't mind it so much, but I could see how it could be a real pain

[candid prairie]

If I remember well, there was also a buff on controls that day, in addition to the +100% energy for mages. I used Phobos+Merlin on that spot, along with Arachne to stun them, and probably Polaris too. Phobos ate Jhu, QM and Corvus really fast

[somber flume]

your stun probs canceled corvus altar. Normally phobos just die to the reflected damage.

[candid prairie]

Phobos makes big damage slowly, he is not the most affected by Corvus' altar: 10k pure damage every sec during 6s maybe? Nothing to really worry about. And if you do, you can still use Dorian

[somber flume]

Phobos has 2nd skill that place another DoT so he'll get pummeled a lot. I dont rmb how much dmg per tick that is dealt by the altar in a health buff dmg buff squad though
The point about dorian is valid though

[candid prairie]

Hmmm, 2nd skill (Trembling Hands) inflicts one big damage to one single enemy once every 10s. I don't see how this can be a concern. What does DoT means BTW?

[somber flume]

nah that's 3rd skill

and DoT is damage over time

2nd skill is physical attack debuff and minor pure dmg dealt in multiple small ticks

guess that's not so minor if your phobos is very developed, but still

[candid prairie]

According to the description, Phobos' blue skill is like his green skill: one-time one-target big damage

[somber flume]

the blue skill is 1 time

the green skill is a multiple small damage over time.

unless it's changed when i'm not looking

been a while since last time i saw that debuff because of all the sebs

[candid prairie]

It's time to look at it, I checked every thing I wrote here about Phobos

[somber flume]

it's 6 ticks of 471

phobos is the only one doing pure dmg here

and only green skill is pure dmg

[somber flume]

dont trust the description fully, you have to test it in combat. A lot of things are not described correctly/fully

[candid prairie]

Looks like you are right. Apparently, the total amount of damage is divided into 6 sub-damage every 0.5 sec, with a cooldown of 10s

[rose sequoia]

Six ticks wouldn't let Corvus kill Phobos tho

[golden notch]

this was quite uneggxpected

[dense escarp]

Sweet!

[quiet moat]

Since when you can get 100 soul stones on one pet at a time?

[brave coral]

I had this a half year ago. Perhpas it is as improbably as getting a grand price...

[quiet moat]

So, technically speaking it's the 2nd time I got a grand on this acc?

(I've got abs star Oliver last year)

[brave coral]

I had it without grand prize before.

[whole marsh]

It is not a gp

[dense escarp]

That can happen

[versed trench]

since a week ago

[wise berry]

no, I've gotten x100 at least 3 times (probably more because not always paying attention and no message pops up) but never the GP

[buoyant crown]

I got a similar type of luck today and I instantly made one of my pets absolute!

[fleet echo]

I've had a few 100's, but NEVER a pet Grand Prize in just over four years!

[frozen cargo]

So they even give out 100s anymore?

I think in my career, I had 3 pet grand prizes.

[brave coral]

I know, I know....

[wintry leaf]

Yeah I got 100 Merlin ss once

no gp tho

[hazy mural]

Think I've had 100 once or twice in over 18months

And no pet gp

[wise berry]

they give out quite a few, you just have to pay attention

[white atlas]

when I keep waiting my guild mates grow big enough to play adv lvl 13 with me. eventually others strong player joined guild and done that with me 😂

[unreal kayak]

Hello there 😁

[vague valley]

Hello 👋

[unreal kayak]

Hello everybody

[polar crane]

thats a small cat

[gusty lichen]

13-9 v boss (no buffs)

next time may bring thea instead of dorian (for second wind) and perhaps switch out albus to axel (albus pet didn't do much damage due to the cap)

[frozen cargo]

I like Thea. I would like it more if her second wind stayed the way Artemis' self buff does.

[somber flume]

i like oliver pet, add thea(+mojo) and drop dorian.

[near radish]

do not try this

without dorian you probably lose

galahad stuns - sometimes it is just enough to prevent jhu from shielding before next boss attack and kill him

[somber flume]

galahad doesnt stun if jhu has enough hp

and oliver'd thea'd jhu would charge fast enough

well. dorian also work so w/e

[near radish]

i usually kill him with

[somber flume]

i've heard report of jhu solo + oliver pet is enough with 160k+ jhu

mine is 120k ish so i still want some supports but eh, the guy already has 170k jhu

180k even

[near radish]

not always... my team is equal to 163k jhu solo and it is not guaranteed without other heroes

[somber flume]

you're not using oliver pet though

[frozen cargo]

Hmm Jhu, Mojo seems viable in that regard. Assuming Mojo debuff isn't cancelled the way it is vs Osh

[somber flume]

and the reason that galahad sometimes stun is the other heroes

[near radish]

all other die on first ult

[somber flume]

when he ult and kill the other heroes, he ults again

so he got 2 arti buff

that's enough for galahad to stun, sometimes

[near radish]

for 8 sec

[somber flume]

after that he shouldn't have enough damage to stun jhu ever

unless your jhu build is really low hp for some reason

[near radish]

in this team core heroes are jhu, dorian and mojo

[somber flume]

dorian just makes the battle longer tbh since vamp back and forth

[frozen cargo]

Strength heroes usually have a ton of HP, Strength prevents being dodged, usually a good idea to push it.

[near radish]

jhu deals dmg, mojo adds some more bumping up result from +19 sometimes to guaranted +20

dorian keeps jhu healed...

[somber flume]

drop dorian and use oliver team pet and you probs kill +20 with 30s to spare

[near radish]

the is mainly just postioning dorian and jhu in proper distance and adds second wind occasionally

[somber flume]

he only needs a little heal to ult permanently

[near radish]

andvari here can be replaced with anything in fonr of jhu for positioning purposes and slight delay for guaranteed jhu's shield activation

[somber flume]

i'd drop dorian and get seb or something if you are worried about the occasional stun

[near radish]

seb will die on first or second ult... healing boss a lot in process

[somber flume]

doesnt matter tbh, jhu has plenty of dmg

especially if you run thea mojo too

and the 15 ode charges should last forever basically

[near radish]

not enough to outperform\ incrreased healing

[somber flume]

wdym increased healing

you dont heal means boss don't heal either

and you're constantly in second wind

just try jhu with oliver team pet.

before dismissing it

[near radish]

will test it next time - usually there is no problem in spending 1 or 2 attempts on wierd tests anyways

[frozen cargo]

Having extra heroes will increase cooldowns.

Unless they die. Low dorian and low mojo will be one shot.

[somber flume]

btw

does biscuit debuff still happen if mojo dies

i'm not even sure lol. My mojo usually patron merlin instead

and idk if the extra mp stays after he dies either

[near radish]

he is there for his hex skill

[somber flume]

i'm asking if the hex damage still proc biscuit debuff after he dies

it does cause the debuff when he's alive

similarly, i'm asking if the merlin mp stat is considered differently when mojo is alive/dead

[near radish]

no idea - never tried to check it

never bothered about patronages becasue those heroes are meant to die as soon as possible

[somber flume]

i mean, if merlin works, then that's even more extra damage

and similarly if biscuit works, it helps curbing the vamp for a brief moment

for some reason the damage is magic but the number (65%) is green 😂

[near radish]

percentages are always green

it makes some inconsistency and need to read description to see dmg type

[somber flume]

but most percentages are buff/pure dmg. This mark is the oddity

[gusty lichen]

great discussion! fyi the fight from above was a one shot fight...ending with 19 seconds to spare. am just geeking out and trying to optimize this fight. Next time will try Jhu, Mojo, Thea with Oliver team pet. After that will try Jhu solo with Oliver team pet.

[brave coral]

So. It's adventure 13-9. We possibly can't kill the two improvement towers from the upper path. Which team should we use for the boss. We have 4 attacks.

[versed trench]

damage red make it near impossible to beat bosses in 13

[near radish]

2 towers on galabad - not doable...
maybe something with strong yasmine or any similar hero with ability to break enemy's ult and very precise manual play

that's assuming only one of those towers is dmg reduction

2 dmg reduction towers make boss completely immune to any dmg

[brave coral]

Only one. I'll give my best. Thank you.

[quiet moat]

This is giving me flash backs

I didn't even attack this I knew I was screwed just went around it(adv13 map 12)

[near radish]

dante just vaporizes it

[quiet moat]

It's the magic side, no Dante team player will run that side,

[somber flume]

at the start, yes, but once a dante player has a respectable 2nd dd (heidi for example) they can run left too

[grim quarry]

Iris-Heidi-Dorian works great on left side 13-12

And this team is demolished by Dante-Neb-Seb-Iris-Martha

[vocal plume]

My HID, usually with Astaroth and either: Issac, Jhu or Nebula, takes down almost every Dante tank team

[silver fable]

always problem that some player do problem in gameplays, and no have game mechanism to prevent and to controlling this, not all guild mates but maybe propper rank mate.

• To see inside the map to inspect the situation
• replay all player movements, OR show the players path by color line. its usefull the inside players too

[wintry leaf]

WTF 💀

[fallow stratus]

🤣

[vague valley]

Damn 😅

[frozen cargo]

Mistakes were made

[vocal plume]

lmao @ 13 with violets... what a fool

[frozen cargo]

Hang Him!

[vocal plume]

Drawn and quartered is better

[frozen cargo]

Inhumane

[versed trench]

jhu alone should be enough

chill tarrow he was just giving it a try

it is not like he know he would fail for sure

someone kick him

he is low power why did you leave him tell now - that much power is hard to play for gold 119 or 113

even if he succeeded won’t the guild still kick him for low power

[near radish]

he knew it...
failed all attacks on first target in easiest 13 one day then did it again next day

and on top of that after a warning

[wintry leaf]

💪

[frozen cargo]

Maybe they have a bunch of red2 heroes and were testing your ethics?

[candid prairie]

I think that you are forgetting they have enough power to reach level-13 adventures. So they intentionally use a puny 200k team in adv13, while they have enough hero power to build a 600k team.

[somber flume]

they might have just gotten carried in previous adv. You only need to join a 2-man adv that beat the boss, and that opens up next adv
But yea it's more likely that they are intentionally griefing

[candid prairie]

Being carried up to adv-13 with a 200k team does not seem plausible to me

[somber flume]

i mean, not intentionally carried. They can just join in an open adv and sit there. What are the other 2 gonna do? They would try to salvage the boss chest ofc.

[candid prairie]

Is that even possible in adventure 10?

[wise berry]

he probably can't do 12, so he probably knew he was gonna fail

[candid prairie]

IIRC, you must have gotten the four chests in adv N to be able to join adv N+1. Am I wrong?

[somber flume]

you just need to pass the boss to join next one

[candid prairie]

Oh, ok, thanks, that was my mistake.

[wise berry]

just the boss

so usually 2 players can work to kill the boss, and if the 3rd one just sits there then they'll be able to do the next adventure

[candid prairie]

Usually or always? I'm wondering about levels 10 and 11. Do they really allow one player to sit down and watch? (I'm assuming that two -80% dmg buffs on the boss, or on any other spot, make it unbeatable)

[wise berry]

11 can be done (the boss) with 2 players pretty easily

make green the one that does nothing

[candid prairie]

OK, thanks. Then level 10 too, probably

[somber flume]

and boss 10 is really weak so you can beat it with 1 resist node pretty easily

[wise berry]

yeah, especially with lots of players building the classical osh team

[near radish]

adv 10 - 2 players can clear all buffs on boss and kill it - just it won't be possible to get 4 chests in such case

adv 11 - since last updates to orion it is easily possible to kill boss with 1 dmg reduction tower active... so first player does midle path normally, second does top or bottom and clears boss under single buff - just classic osh team with axel pet

no need for any adjustments and single attack is enough

[somber flume]

what update?

[near radish]

like this one: https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1725765132999927276

[somber flume]

i believe boss didnt get affected by hero update but i might be wrong

pretty sure boss galahad didnt get the new 4th skill

[near radish]

there were small adjustments to skills together with asgard upgrades

anyways osh team with axel clears orion with single attack under single dmg reduction tower

[somber flume]

in any case killing orion in adv11 in 1 shot with 1 res buff isnt that hard even back then

[near radish]

this is replay from 13 - even bigger dmg reduction

[somber flume]

in 13... well yea you need to have like 1m osh team to do that

but that's besides the point xD

[near radish]

so yes - being carried up to 13 is not so hard

and in that case guy probably hoped others in a guild will give him a chance to leech 3 chests with boss one without any hassle

[frozen cargo]

That looks overly complicated.

[wise berry]

yeah, but (ignoring green) it may be the best way to take down the boss with 2 players

and green can then just clean-up

[stark axle]

just stomp orion with the osh team, so that it works with 2 players and normal routes lol

in 13-11 ofc, if ur that strong and still doing 11s, ur doing it wrong

13-11 boss works even with a 95% res buff tower active

[wise berry]

yeah, but this can be done with an even weaker osh team

[tame sundial]

such a freeloader

[stark axle]

teach him where to find the routes and that adventures are a team efford.
if u already tried that and hes not listening, make private adventures.
if more keep complaining about him, kick and blacklist

[versed trench]

lol

[somber flume]

🫣

[marble ravine]

and that guys, is called planning for max effect

[vague valley]

🙈

[quiet moat]

Even happier bobik noises

[shell halo]

Always funny: A dodge hero vs Astrild
https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1726897266759166397

[quiet moat]

Second 5 star pet from this great storm yeeey!

[frozen cargo]

Looks like an epileptic seizure waiting to happen

[gleaming ruin]

Can we have an adventure feature not only to invite guild mates, but also to block some of them from joining?

[near radish]

start private and invite only ones you allow

in case of somebody notoriously obstructing others ask him to nto join or remove from guild

[gleaming ruin]

I want to keep it open for others that might be in another adventure currently. And even if I start a private one the other player might invite the wrong players.

[near radish]

it is old problem but devs consider existing mechanics sufficient...

so in case of ppl who notoriously make adventures fail and don't wan't to learn you can only remove them from guild

[gleaming ruin]

My own guild is fine. I got another f2p char that has issues with some players. One never follows the path, and another one joins and then does nothing for at least 24 hours (that one also never follows the paths).

I do not have rights to kick anyone there, and the guildmaster won't kick them. Not a huge issue though, because due to the delays they cause they are often sitting in other adventures and can't join mine 😜.

[near radish]

if guildmaster doesn't do anything with players who deliberately hurt others in guild then maybe time to look for another guild

[frozen cargo]

Have you tried... Talking to them? They must know the issues they are causing are problematic, if not, maybe you can change their entire world view.

[rocky blade]

About how strong needs the osh team to be for that ? It means the update to orion damage made it easier for the osh team to do so much damage that it negates the damage reduction ?
But tbh what's the point of doing adv 11 with a very strong team instead of 12 ?

[rocky blade]

hi, at my level now I never need nor want to do an adventure below 11/12, but the result is I'm accumulating a massive number of flawless stones, while I slowly no longer have any lower grade stones available to upgrade more pets.
I believe many people have the same issue.
Has nobody ever tried to discuss with Nexter if they would agree to introduce a mechanims by which you could downgrade a flawless stone to a lower grade stone of the same type ?
I think this would be the more reasonnable mechanism to handle that, making those stones much more useful while keeping some serious restriction because you would be able to do it only if you have the right kind of stone.

[near radish]

there is something kinda like this - you can trade exceeding stones for chaos particles and but stones with chaos particles

[frozen cargo]

Purchasing stones is far more expensive.

[near radish]

and i have no idea about osh team power required for adv11 - there was no such team when i was doing this adv

[wise berry]

you can sell excellent or flawless stones for 27 chaos particles

[rocky blade]

Which is a extremly low number of chaos particles, so I was suggesting this scenario that would give them more value, from 70 to 130 chaos particles, but only for one restricted scenario, you need a lower stone of the same type, so you exchange instead of buynig.

[somber flume]

you can do it in 2 hits with a proper osh team around 600k power. Sure it's unlikely someone stuck in 11 would have that, but maybe they are in a guild weaker than themselves and can't clear the 12.

[rocky blade]

Hi, I'm in adventure 12 against this team on position #13 with health +200% that I have 3 attempts to beat.
I can in combat testing actually give it the +200% health bonus (in cow mode, that's an available buff) so see what the impact is.
Well basically whatever composition I try the conclusion is I'm destroyed as soon as Corvus's altar appears.
I didn't know the altars damage was proportional to the health, right now I feel have no chance to change the result, even with 3 attempts 😟 The more since the bonus on Corvus is +100% energy gain !

Actually there's just one case that won with Dante tank, apparently being lucky with dodge, he spammed corvus with attacks that blocked him from the ult. But repeating that fight, in a large majority of cases, it loses. And in the real match corvus has the +100% energy gain bonus, so that technic can't work !

[near radish]

typical solution is dante upraded high enough - usually dante can kill him in 10 sec required to launch altar

and adventure mobs don't keep energy between fights, so if you can get health reduced by more than 1/3 then he will die within 3 attacks...

you can also try to use astaroth/dante combo for resurrection or some control heroes to slow corvus down

[somber flume]

it's +health so dante probs don't have enough damage unless he crits.

and then theres aidan dorian combo that keep corvus on tip top health.

i think the best bet would be control. Next best solution (if you dont have control) is probs try to deal as much damage as possible then suicide before enemy heal back so the next attempt go smoother.

[rocky blade]

I throw everything I had almost randomly and by pure random chance I found a combination that would likely have worked 😲 if I had used it several times, but it was my last attempt 😟
It seems that thea's ult blocks the totem when it happens at the right moment which luckily was repeatedly the case here ! But at the end, the totem appeared and killed my team

I'm not sure what happens at 1'31", either he gets hit by mojo or thea's ult during his ult animation which blocks the totem, so manual fighting to block the totem everytime would have been the solution likely
https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1727508625790479540

[near radish]

it's not ult.. it's blue skill

[wise berry]

Whenever I encounter a coruvs-aidan team on a health buff I like to use HID, if necessary you may need to manual heidi so he doesn't have too many ults going at once or it will overwhelm his health, but it usually works okay, especially with a couple chances.

[wise berry]

keep in mind when you try to simiulate and adv battle in CoW, the adv heroes aren't maxed (no ascension, red artifacts) but their health is less than a maxed team with a 200% hp buff (also they have no patrons, but everyone remembers that one)

[somber flume]

your heidi can survive the reflected damage? i'm pretty sure mine cant

oh nvm i was thinking 13. Probs can survive 12

[wise berry]

I think that's how I beat it, haven't fought that node/corvus-aidan combo in a little while tho

[frozen cargo]

I imagine it reflects 60k per hit? Orion might help also. Or try Arachne tank.

[idle egret]

i would have used dante tank like this dante-isaac-neb-seb-martha..

[wintry leaf]

Trying 13-12 for the first time

lost once so far, this team and 250% health buff.

[frozen cargo]

Health buff can be a bit annoying. Right side? Sometimes, you don't actually need to finish this fight to get 4 chests.

Right now, you have a lot of healing on that team, you might need Celeste. But, that looks like a rough fight.

[wintry leaf]

yeah I wasnt able to kill mushy and she kept spamming her lil shrooms

[rose sequoia]

take out heidi for iris and albus for axel/cain

[acoustic hornet]

Corvus with health buff is hard. I am struggling in such squads like you. AEs kill the altar. Use 2 healers to sustain.

[wintry leaf]

😄

[frozen cargo]

It's like there wasn't even a boss.

[rocky blade]

Normally, the health isn't that high, but I set the mode to clash of world, and you can add manually the +200% health buf in that mode !
Also no ascension is the same as in adventure, so it's quite close actually.

[somber flume]

he means adventure has no ascension so the maxed enemy in Combat training is stronger than the one in adventure

[rocky blade]

Not that surprising, W3 attacked the boss with the x3 damage buf from the position behind, which is quite handable with the right heros (they get high damage but also high energy, especially with enough dodge, celeste can deny a lot of healing in that mode), and then he went to take that position after the boss fight. Right and left had a really easy path after that.

[rocky blade]

oh right, I thought I remembered heros were not fully maxed out in combat training, but now IIRC what's missing is the tree, not the ascension right ?

[somber flume]

i'm not sure now. I do think combat training is absolute max now (including tree) but need to test

[rocky blade]

In the solfor path, left side should take #11 so you don't have to take #13 with the health buf, and there's also the solution where the damage left did to #11 plus the damage you do to #13 reaches 20 so neither of you actually has to take the position fully to get the 4th chest.
In onepunchman that I find to be a very good path, #13 is not in the right path. But then left has to be able to take #11 to succeed, even if he's allowed to do up to 3 or 4 attempts.

[rocky blade]

It's a team I use regularly, but Dante gets killed by the reflected damage in that mode, it's pure damage, he can't dodge it.
See here, the whole team gets crushed https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1727785796176014026

[rocky blade]

You need enough area of effect to kill the altar wich has much more health with the +200%; and you'll get the reflected damage.
In the fight that I shared, the solution is coming from the fact the invocation of the altar at 1'50'' is canceled by one of the attacks. In my simulation I found that very occasionnally Dante attacks lands at the exact moment required to do that. Here I don't know exaclty, but I think that first Orion slow delays it, and then a missile lands and stuns Corvus at the exact right moment needed to cancel his animation and the altar.

[somber flume]

i guess it's mojo or orion stun landing at the exact time. I use neither so i'm not sure about their timings

on my alt arachne on 3rd spot can cancel altar if she has 1 daily speed buff

[wise berry]

I thought adventure heroes were missing stats (otherwise adv 13 teams should be 1 mil)

[brave coral]

Asgard + red artefacts.

[idle egret]

what pet you used?

[frozen cargo]

Aoe usually kills you against Corvus alter.

[gleaming ruin]

Use heavy hitters like Dante or Jhu that only hit one opponent at a time. This way they don't take too much damage from the altar, and the altar power still goes down in a reasonable time. On the other hand you are right, Corvus with health bonus can be painful (at lvl13 he has 250% bonus). In your case it was even worse if Aidan boosted Corvus. Imagine... both have a 200% health bonus, and Aidan shares health with Corvus. That will give Corvus like 5m HP. Altar would deal 60k per hit (1.2% health + 1110).

Martha plus Celeste should be able to heal your heroes.

[frozen cargo]

Jhu can be good vs Corvus since he gets energized quicker and therefore, invincibility.

[dry sapphire]

droping all ur heroes for just orion and dorian would have far more better result imho

[dense escarp]

Adv10 is poorly designed.

[frozen cargo]

Or is it designed perfectly? It is a challenge, much more so than 11 and 12.

[frozen cargo]

Most guilds have this issue.

[forest sinew]

Better just not to do this one. Stick with Adv 9 until you can get at least 3 chests in Adv 11 and then switch to Adv 11 😉

And once you eventually get to Adv 13 (which sometimes uses the 10 map), raid on the days with 10 map and only actually play the other 3

[whole marsh]

I wonder if it works

[wise berry]

why'd you do it and not just raid?

[near radish]

how so? there is no timing which could rpevent from raiding

[wise berry]

just don't finish the adventure until the next day

[near radish]

you can simply delay receiving guild prestige portal for 3 days...

[wise berry]

you get it in the mail and it will expire in 3 days

[quiet moat]

First time 1 hit on adv 13 boss

[stark axle]

nice

[stark axle]

yea, very good day for 13-11s today

[quiet moat]

What's that buff giving

[stark axle]

95% damage resistance 💀

[quiet moat]

And you you one shot it... That mean you one one shot 20 orions in one fight

[near radish]

not really...

boss has dmg limiter to 1% of max hp per hit...

[placid granite]

What is the boss of AD13 today?

[quiet moat]

Stil that 1% is affected by the 95% damadge reduction, making it so you can only to .05% per hit

[near radish]

nope.. it is oposite

[quiet moat]

You can see it in the little portal in the adventure 13 menu

[near radish]

dmg reduction is applied first and then it is capped to 1% if exceeds this value

[quiet moat]

Oh.. that's makes the 95% damadge reduction useless against strong players

[placid granite]

I can't see because I am in the midst of the AD13 game.

[near radish]

not completely useless...

[quiet moat]

If it's the same for everyone, then it's adv 11 map

[quiet moat]

yh just mostly

[stark axle]

see the posts above 😉
its orion (13-11)

with great buffs

[somber flume]

it reduced jhu damage a little, and reduced seb damage a lot.

[quiet moat]

Still manageable. My team defeated Orion in less then 40 seconds

With this estate decreased a little it might take a min and a half, maybe even 40 seconds

[somber flume]

depending on how big jhu/neb is

you only do 1% of your normal hit with the buff on after all

as opposed to 20%

[warm linden]

what is the level 80 path

[golden abyss]

just hold the portals in your mail 😂 once you get 13-12, finish it and raid it with all 7 charges

[placid granite]

What team can defeat Rufus team?

[idle egret]

physical teams

[whole marsh]

or, mori/jet team

[idle egret]

both physical...🤷

[whole marsh]

if not physical, mori works I meant

like I win with mori aurora

but morrigan gotta survive yea

[idle egret]

🤷

[near radish]

this is not ery good example as aurora can kill rufus even without morri

but in general - morrigan is direct counter to rufus resurrection

[whole marsh]

Aurora spams in adv 😅

And my main dd is Iris

[near radish]

i clear rufus and 100% magic resist nodes regularly with aurora/orion combo

lack of pets and asgard makes adventure teams very squishy

[idle egret]

100%magic resist ... with aurora and orion... care to explain that?

[somber flume]

normal attack crits + seb i guess

[stark axle]

nowadays i just use a team that has all 3 damage types (jhu, heidi, aurora)

[frozen cargo]

Does Jhu active his pure damage vs a 100% physical resist node?

[stark axle]

no

if u look at the conclusion page, it shows damage for jhu, but thats only the damage he does to himself

[frozen cargo]

That is what I thought. Keira works that way also. Her pure damage is directly linked to physical attack landing.

[stark axle]

yes... the only exclusion for physical/pure heros i found so far is galahad somehow. his violet still works. it does not make sense to me, but thats how it is lol

[frozen cargo]

Good to know. Maybe Galahad has a purpose afterall.

[stark axle]

well, heidi does it better lol

[wise berry]

why use aurora and orion against 100% magic-resistance nodes (I get aurora if she's your only tank, but why orion?)

[near radish]

speedrunning and laziness...

usually it is just result of fast clicking and realizing it was magic resist node after fight started already

[quiet moat]

The adventure bots got more money than me 😭

(It has Augustus)

[stark axle]

ofc it has, its nexters, its fed by all the whales here lol

[whole marsh]

haha

[fading stream]

change adventure 10 (please star)

[versed trench]

do 9 until you can easily do 11 try to avoid 10

[frozen cargo]

Adventure 10 is pretty good. It is a serious challenge for people. Takes coordination and has no room for error. After that, it's easy mode. You have beaten the hardest challenge and can spend the rest of your days in comfort (well, unless you end up in 13-10)

[stark axle]

take it as a learning space 😉
like Quit said

[acoustic hornet]

just get through adv10 quick. do it once perfectly, raid 4 times and move on to adv11.

[acoustic hornet]

13-9 Corrupted Galahad is such a bighead 😂
Even with 95% damage reduction.
https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1729023850863029251

[wise berry]

that's a massive augustus 👀

[viral topaz]

Is this adv 9 or adv 13?

[quiet moat]

I like playing against 250% health buff teams

[acoustic hornet]

13-9

[acoustic hornet]

i like battles against 250% health buff teams only afterwards, when i have won. ^^

[viral topaz]

nice 🙂

[frozen cargo]

As long as they don't have Corvus, 250 health teams are usually pretty easy. Save for Amira, but they don't usually have her upgraded.

[rose sequoia]

use dorian against cleavage?

[rose sequoia]

use iris?

[quiet moat]

Yh actually that would've been a good idea didn't think of it

[rose sequoia]

bruh

[frozen cargo]

Iris vs corvus can be pretty dangerous, every basic attack from your team will hurt her for 20k.

[rose sequoia]

iris dorian?

[wintry leaf]

corvus 250% buff... how to kill this thing?

[near radish]

zacznijmy od axela zamiast albusa jako team pet

osobiscie to dalbm rowniez albusa albo fenrisa na sebastiana

i biszkopcik na heidi

[wintry leaf]

małpe zostawić? czy lepiej wykopać bo wsm Corvus zdejme totemem

[wintry leaf]

niebieski+2 jest niestety

[near radish]

nie wiem jak z wytrzymaloscia iris tutaj - galahad albo keira pewnie by ja zdjeli za szybko...

bo jak malpa pada od totemu i nie moze za duzo zrobic, to iris albo jorgen wydaja sie dorbym zastepstwem... jesli tylko dotrwaliby pierwszego ulta dantego i wspoczyli na uniki

[wintry leaf]

na pewno nie da rady iris, 37k ma

Jorgen podobnie, więc wsm rng duże

2 hity padlo

[frozen cargo]

So, that isn't a 250% Corvus. That is a 250% Corvus+ Aiden. Even in adventure, the totem will probably hit you for 40k per strike. Jhu will help, the extra damage will charge him faster and he will pick away at Aiden in the back line. High damage single target heroes will work best. Aoe and damage over time will usually hurt you.

[quiet moat]

Next pet to upgrade?

[forest sinew]

Axel, Oliver, and Albus I would focus on in general

(Oliver only needs his right side items maxed)

[whole marsh]

Khorus I think

[wise berry]

probably either albus (for osh damage) cain(to improve dodge/energy gain for dd) of maybe Khorus

first time I actually made use of augustus 🙂

[quiet moat]

100% mag damadge resistance?

[wise berry]

no, just wanted to try him, probably could've used a modified osh team

[somber flume]

gus does nothign in 100% magic res nodes

[wise berry]

and I thought that would be handy, oh well

[wicked sand]

if u like

best team is for me

f2p is ok, if u have time

[quiet moat]

What really?

[somber flume]

he needs the debuff to convert magic to pure, but he can't put the debuff if he doesnt do any damage in the first place.

[quiet moat]

Yh but what if the main damadge dealer already has enough mag pen

My aurora always deals max damadge from ult for most of the heroes.

And you could also bring along someone with magic pen artifact. Like Arachne

[somber flume]

mpen means nothing

he can't put the debuff because both his normal attack and ult are "immune"-d

so no conversion there

i guess he's still a mA art buffer but he's a really slow one at that job

[wise berry]

he needs to hit them to apply the debuff, his first his is always magic, even if he has full pen

[shell halo]

Morrigan as damage dealer, normally it's Corvus.

[acoustic hornet]

this means the battle will take longer than usual.
either

• control them well with arachne(mara) or
• go for defense and sustainability and use a tank + another healer.

[wheat hare]

the entire squad dipped, so imma beat the boss on my own

*Determination.

[rose sequoia]

main character vibes

[hollow bone]

Haha nice

[urban imp]

how do you ask people to join your adventure?

[near radish]

write in guild chat...
and click on this + sign in empty slot then select ppl you want to invite

[urban imp]

ok

[autumn drift]

What path would the last person need to follow for us to get 80 more points? 🤔

[near radish]

seriously need to ask?

bottom one on both parts

[autumn drift]

We'll only get 60 points that way, wouldn't we?

[near radish]

boss is killed already... so efter killing eye on top part just turn back end kill other one there

as i can see it is 11 moves required

[autumn drift]

Oh, I see.

[autumn drift]

Yeah.

I thought that each eye only gave 20 points each, so we'd need to kill four out of five.

[near radish]

you was right

and this path clears 4 out of 5 remaining nodes

[autumn drift]

Ooh, I see now. I was trying to see if I could kill the three in the second zone, but that needs 13 moves.

Killing the two in the last zone is less moves, huh.

[wise berry]

you can kill that one and not kill one of the final eyes for 12 moves, but the path where you ignore the middle node only takes 11 so you can mess up one attack, which is probably the better way to go

[quiet moat]

First time every fully completion 13-10

[near radish]

but this map doesn't look like 13-11 ...

[wise berry]

does he mean 13-10?

[quiet moat]

Yh I got a bit confused with the Maps

[acoustic hornet]

happens

[quiet moat]

ẞtarted using Gus in adventure to test his power.

[prisma linden]

seems to be doing well

[native lichen]

desty noi desty noi desty noi desty noi desty noi sa ka me fa ah

un doi doi doi doi doi doi doi doi un doi doi doi doi doi doi sa ka me fa

[chilly crane]

pikatchou has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

[wise berry]

tiny peppy + aurora strat for the W 🙂

[quiet moat]

Gus highlights

[wise berry]

seems we went the same route yesterday 🙂

[frozen cargo]

Why the tiny peppy?

[wise berry]

both peppy's will cast their shield (green skill) and any time the hero with the shield takes damage it will also attack. This means if I have even a really small peppy, the enemy peppy shield will spam magic damage, which will overload aurora's shield several times and when combined with her stage 5 ascension skill will usually result in the whole enemy team getting killed (if not most of them)

peppy doesn't have to be small, but I haven't bothered upgrading her and she can still be very useful in this (niche) instance (but there was 3 enemy nodes with peppy on the top route of 13-9 that day)

[frozen cargo]

Intriguing.

[placid granite]

What is the boss of AD13? I am in the midst of the game and cannot see the picture.

[forest sinew]

it's the 10 map today

so better stay away from that (unless you're VERY VERY confident you can win all the battles 1st try)

[frozen cargo]

I can not usually make out the image for whichever boss it is. It isn't clear to me, not sure how everyone manages it so well.

[idle egret]

i can see it every single time and i need glasses so... you can do it

[frozen cargo]

Just looks like a blurry mess to me.

If I zoom in really far, I can actually see the enemy, but wow... That is so much work. Take a screen shot, paste it somewhere and zoom into the image? Takes a while extra 2 minutes out of my day.

[near radish]

just don't look at boss itself... scroll to adventures and compare terrain

like this green patch of grass below boss is present in adv10 only...

[dry sapphire]

More like augustus's mgc defence reduction aiding Aurora

[wise berry]

it's actually the peppy that matters tho, I could use my small orion instead of gus to get full penetration as an alternate option (or polaris)

it's the peppy that causes the battle to be over in 10-15 seconds

[dry sapphire]

Remind me what peppy does pls

[wise berry]

causes enemy peppy shield to spam magic damage

if 2 peppy's fight each other both place a shield and the shield will deal a ton of magic damage to the tank on either side (along with other front-line heroes close enough)

but in aurora's case she absorbs the damage into her shield, which then explodes damaging the other side more, and with her stage 5 ascension skill takes down pretty much all of the enemy team

[dry sapphire]

Not bad then

[wise berry]

It's rather niche, but can be useful every now and then

[near radish]

no

[gleaming sage]

if u have 3 accounts

[viral topaz]

its enough to have 2 accounts to clear adv. 1 or adv. 2 😉

[frozen cargo]

Terrible rewards, but fast and easy.

[wheat hare]

Buffs galore

[latent gate]

lmao i saw one where it filled half the screen

celeste/orion spam

[wise berry]

aurora on a tank energy gain can go pretty crazy

[latent gate]

ye wild dodge

[quiet moat]

My first violet+3 pet

[quiet moat]

Lighting struck

[frozen cargo]

What is the meaning of your image?

[iron aspen]

to show that they got the tower maybe???

I honestly have no clue

[hushed oracle]

I see nothing wrong with this

[frozen cargo]

I can infer that there were mistakes made along the way, but, I have no idea what the goal was or what the map looked like before and after.

[latent gate]

lmao

[marble ravine]

rip

[forest sinew]

What a waste!

[rich halo]

@junior plover tis you'll need to talk with Merlin about as well, boss

his doing only adv 11s maybe ight, but his always keeping 10 portal charges on hand would make him lose the automatic recharge everyday

[junior plover]

No doubt about that. I think I've mentioned it to him before, but I'll bring it up again.

[marble ravine]

another guy in my guild got 70 but he's in an adventure rn

[forest sinew]

tbh for me Advs and GW are the most fun parts of the game. So I would never have more than 1 or 2 portál charges

[marble ravine]

agree, i just forget sometimes bc the game is just to pass time for me. not GW tho because it's always the same

[forest sinew]

Our opponents tend to change their defence a lot.

[marble ravine]

ok, idk about ours bc i don't do gw as I always forget to attack because idc about it

[wraith loom]

hello all

[idle egret]

looks like shiat hit the fan in there lol

[tame sundial]

100% happyness

[idle egret]

what adventure was it?

[foggy crypt]

is that ur 203 account?

[placid granite]

Which hero makes the strongest basic attack?

[leaden dome]

jhu

[foggy crypt]

August

[lament python]

Probably Celeste

[leaden dome]

did anyone ping me

[idle egret]

jhu has more as it seems.. no pets were used...

[foggy crypt]

gotcha

[grim quarry]

Try Celeste 🙂

Max vs max, no pets

[wise berry]

that's because augustus doesn't penetrate (or the jhu either) so not a good test

jhu basic attack seems to be 62078 (no patron for jhu)

vs artemis

but yeah, celeste does seem to have the strongest basic attack

[near radish]

not exactly

celeste at violet rank or higher deals magic dmg based on magic attack stat while normally heroes deal dmg based on phys attack stat with basic attack

it makes her attack comparable with physical damage dealers but matched against weaker defense as heroes tend to have higher aromr than mag def

[rose sequoia]

some phys dds have 100k+ pa, surely someone has that and crit which would allow for 200k basic attack

[wise berry]

if you count crit as part of basic attack then probably artemis or fox

[rose sequoia]

yeah thats what im saying

[golden notch]

1st try luckily

[wise berry]

big jhu+isaac damage compared to seb

[drifting basin]

maybe a star please 😄 #📝game-discussion message

[meager bramble]

maybe we need a specialised channel so ppl can try and promote their own starbord posts 💀

[drifting basin]

maybe not 😉

[meager bramble]

then don't do it here, it's not related to adventures

[drifting basin]

but maybe to all players? 😉

[signal jasper]

You improved a lot bro. Greetings from 157

[haughty kernel]

you forget ishmael maybe?

[golden notch]

thx bro, wanna see the rest of my heroes currently? ive been f2p since May 2022 lol

two years of progress can be a lot

[latent gate]

what if you can get mag atk buff spammed so that cel attacks and absolutely cooks somebody

[fossil comet]

pls use @ Moderator for this

[wise berry]

apparently corny might have the strongest basic attack (not counting crits)

[near radish]

but why does it look like ultra not basic?

[brave coral]

It is 1:58

[near radish]

editing...

there is no way to get 147k dmg with 24 or 25k attack stat... even ishmael can't do it as his crit multplier is x4 only...

[wise berry]

test it yourself

use a hero with basically no armor (has to be under 10k)

and use a maxed corny (no patron) to hit them

https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1737062401705556772 this is the replay if you're interested

[rose sequoia]

corny uses ma as his basic attack stat

so that number checks out

[rose sequoia]

also ish with ult can do 400k in one basic attack

[haughty kernel]

daredevli did 200k but was a crit

ishmael too

[signal jasper]

Yeah just do what you can't let. For F2P thats a lot of aktivity that you have.

[golden notch]

bro check this out

[golden notch]

||I can beat pretty much any team i encounter in cow and gw as long as I set up my heroes the proper way||

[lofty veldt]

Omg thats crazy

[signal jasper]

Bro and that all on F2P?, You may have the Raidticket or not?

[lofty veldt]

Its F2P no raid

Raid = no F2P

[vocal plume]

Some ppl get free raid tho?

[lofty veldt]

Rly?

[vocal plume]

in fact, LOTS

Winterfest reward

[gleaming sage]

gifted could be as well

[vocal plume]

Or a mentor/mate could buy raid for someone

[golden notch]

not all-time f2p
ex spender, i spent during the first few months of playing, but since then been f2p for a good 2 years now

[vocal plume]

F2P = 0 dollars personally spent.

imo

[golden notch]

yeah not a true full f2p

i’m an ex spender i’d say

[vocal plume]

P2P = Average spender

P2W = 10M hero power plus

[golden notch]

whale = Paying each Nexter’s employee their christmas bonuses a year ahead of time

[signal jasper]

That are mine

[wise berry]

10mil hero power plus is a whale on most servers (maybe not on your older ones, but definitely on the newer ones)

[vocal plume]

Even some older ones, S63 had ZERO players at or above 10M

Great server

[wise berry]

@grizzled dome +1mil chabba damage, lol

[rose sequoia]

is the axel on augustus to protect against corny?

[vocal plume]

I thought Albus was the one for Augie

[rose sequoia]

yeah but u dont want corny to bonk

[wise berry]

yeah

otherwise he might get 1-shotted

[rose sequoia]

gotcha

[placid granite]

What should I get first from Mysterious Island?

[lament python]

The 20k emeralds

[rocky blade]

So that was a good idea, but if Orion is tank, he's killed by the rest of the team.
But the team that I found and that's very reliable against +250% health and +100% damage Corvus does use this idea. It's
Dorian Orion Nebula Celeste Aurora
I'm not so sure why Nebula is so effective here, but she's a better choice than the other options I tested.
At least in that case against Corvus Qing Mao Dante Lian Martha

[rocky blade]

Post this rather in general, it's out of topic in adventure

[placid granite]

Which one do you choose, 8 Cosmic Artifact Chest or 1 Legendary Chest?

[dry sapphire]

1st off Ur responding to a comment which was since last year 💀
2ndly I gave my opinion BC the support on Ur team is fairly useless.
3rdly just bc I said dropping all to use Dorian and Orion doesn't actually mean u should use those 2 ofc ull need a tank and support e.t.c
Lastly it was my opinion take it or leave it 😴

[lament python]

both bring little, so it depends on your current focus: titans, especially dark/light, or heroes?

[placid granite]

Heroes

[rugged lily]

Todays pet adventure 13 with 660 points, beat the boss when it still had harbringer buffs

[iron aspen]

someone can buy raid for you?

[rocky blade]

I don't understand why you react badly when my answer started with "That was a good idea". The other suggestion back then made little sense I think, yours was the one that had a real point. But you did say "for just orion and orian", so it's only natural one would understand to keep only two.
Yesterday I tried another variation of that team against another Corvus 250% health +100 damage team, and it worked well again with a one fight victory even with a baby dorian that only has max vampirism skill.

[vocal plume]

While it is against the ToS, I have certainly heard of situations where someone has purchased base Raid for someone.

[dry sapphire]

Cool

[hazy gust]

Looks a lot like @hallow pulsar

But you have better Aurora

[placid granite]

The boss of AD13-9 buffed by 100% tank energy gain is very tough. How do I handle this case?

[forest sinew]

This I how I 1-shot him now. Jhu and Thea are the key heroes here. Most of them die pretty quickly, but Thea's 4th skill will make sure Jhu survives till the end and kill the boss

Another popular alternative is a Yasmine team, because Yasmine will make Galahad turn around and then your remaining heroes are protected

[placid granite]

What is the strength of Thea necessary to survive under Galahad's attack? Can Kayla make Galahad turn around like Yasmine?

[forest sinew]

That's the nice thing, she can even be pretty weak. All she needs here is the last skill. It will hold even after she dies 😉

As for Kayla, no clue. Don't even know any of my guildmates that would have her leveled

[placid granite]

Thea's increasing allies' speed power is more useful than that of Martha.

[forest sinew]

In this case, yes. Martha would die and then Jhu would fall too

[near radish]

in some specififc cases - thea's speed buff works only on low hp levels

[foggy crypt]

ur in a good guild

Kayla's the 2nd worst noob trap ever, just after Yasmine

[hazy gust]

What a 💩 team

[forest sinew]

well you can call it that, but it does the job reliably every time 🤷‍♂️

[rose sequoia]

its just jhu carrying tho

and it only works in that specific scenario. against a team w aurora, dante, or heidi, that team would struggle a bit

triple dmg dealer and no support, terrible pvp team

and u could better support jhu for the boss too

[forest sinew]

I'm not saying that it's good in every scenario. In fact, I don't think I've used this specific combo anywhere else.

[rose sequoia]

so what on earth prompted u to use such an awful combo in this scenario

ginger and phobos do nothing for the team here

ud get the same results if u took them out

[forest sinew]

Because I have them highly leveled and they will do at least a bit of damage. I would get just the same if i replaced them with others 🤷‍♂️

[rose sequoia]

u could be using better jhu supports tho

if ur straying from healing bc of galabads vamp, dorian martha r obv out

but u could put in faf and mojo for post-death benefits

also y r they so high lvl 😐

[forest sinew]

I don’t have those leveled

Look, I’m not saying that’s the only team (nor that it’s the best team), but once I found a team that is reliable, there is no reason to risk with others 😉

[rose sequoia]

u dont need them lvled, just there. and they still contribute more than ginger and phobos

but sure ur team works in this particular unchanging scenario so ig thats all that matters

[tawdry stream]

best map ever, it's born to help weaker mem

[gusty lichen]

did some data analysis. apparently the "possible loot" graphic ONLY represent what are max values obtainable from the LAST chest (boss chest) IT IS NOT THE EXPECTED VALUE OF ALL CHESTS in a particular adventure

after running adventure two 34 times the EXPECTED values are as follows: 71 pet potions, 17 chaos particles and 1 egg

chances of getting any gem is 75pct

so this graphic understates the amount of pet potions by a bit and GROSSLY overstates the amount of CHAOS PARTICLES one should expect

TAKE A WAY: is it really better to run adventure 7 instead of adventure 2 if you need the gem???? I used to believe it was always better to run the higher adventure...but now this is unclear. An argument can be made that if you need both gems offered in a particular adventure it can certainly be BETTER to run the lower adventure.

RAW DATA:

CHEST 1 will always be pet potions

[wise berry]

yes

and the last one always has pet potions

*last one meaning boss, not the most common failed "4th chest"

[gusty lichen]

oh i see that NOW...thanks

[acoustic hornet]

i love the adventure pathes without a lot of waiting as listed here https://hero-wars.fandom.com/wiki/Adventures/13/Maelstrom_of_Chaos

[rocky blade]

I used to defend this about low level adventures, but not to the point of prefering 2 to 7 which seems extreme.
It's well known that what's announced is the max value for boss chest, and the other chests show what their max value is when you hover above them before opening them. 2nd and 3rd chest have the same value, only the boss chest can give a gem

[gusty lichen]

good info thanks! learned a few things 🙂

[rocky blade]

I've read once a description of the reward saying it can give randomly all value with a 5% increment from a low threshold to max 100%, but I can't find it again.
I've actually saved the result for many adventure to do a precise evaluation one day, so I can check now. So the reward for the last chest of adventure 13 goes from 7261 potion to 3631 (50% of max), with the next value at 3994 (55% of max). It confirms it with 50% as the lower threshold.

[dim dagger]

wow heidi wrecked my team https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1739587809800866038

[dim dagger]

folio spotted

[hazy marlin]

wow already in the adventures?

[dim dagger]

indeed

[gusty lichen]

not sure what happened Mushy? ig pulled some amira shyt on my team...sudden death at 1:33 ..anyone have an idea how this happened and how i can avoid this in the future?

https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1739905203139163442

mushy violet ability ig but had NO IDEA it was that deadly

ah ok mushy was buffed 300pct ..ig that is a problem...what do yall do when mushy has this buff in adventures....seems impossible not to die

[rose sequoia]

isaac

altho ig its very diff for me, advs r basically a joke at this point

[gusty lichen]

start a new account! no joke haha

[rose sequoia]

dont wanna 😛

[simple wadi]

Both have their use, still far better then going Tristan, Ginger etc

[rich halo]

@hushed oracle

<@&729965095974731787>

[hushed oracle]

Not sure why mods hate people giving free money 🤷‍♂️

[rich halo]

yeah, we should totally be able to give our bucks to them scammers

[unreal gyro]

main dorian?

[hollow bone]

lol crazy

[rose sequoia]

dorian top dmg 🔥

[marble ravine]

<@&729965095974731787> & the one above

without commentary

[rotund urchin]

what is reccomended power level for ADV 13?

this is mine rn and can do ADV 12 without any problems

[rich halo]

you can make a private adventure to see if you're strong enough

if it's private, other people won't get affected when you fail

[balmy marsh]

Axel as team pet and merlin on orion and then you're fine. That team's able to do boss route of 13 [when it's adventure 12 map] and can do the rest of adventure 13 maps.

[forest sinew]

More than power level, it's about being able to build teams that can cope with the 100% resistances. I see you are heavilly reliant on Dante & Orion. What team can you build for a 100% physical resist? I don't see a strong enough tank in there that can take Dante's place

Of course, some maps you can take a route that avoids a particular static buff. But e.g. for today 2 out of 3 players need to be able to handle both Physical and magic resists

[near radish]

tbh dante can pretty well tank most of those 100% phys resist nodes

[forest sinew]

ok, but will his Orion then be able to do it all alone?

[near radish]

orion is one of fastest magic dd's... and here it is buffed by nebula and has augustus assistance

[wise berry]

orion and gus will do it fine

[rose sequoia]

this team can do a13

better suited than most as it has multiple dmg types

altho ur cain isnt super strong

[rocky blade]

With the nebula buff, yes, although having also Celeste helps.

One question about the map of adventure 13, on a given day, is it the same for everybody on one server, or for everybody on all servers ?

[wise berry]

everyone

server doesn't matter

[rocky blade]

Thanks for the answer !
But then is there nobody who publishes what the map of the day is ?
Quite frequently I'm in an adventure, and if the 13 map is poor would prefer to stay in it until my next personnal day, but leave it to start a new adventure if it's good !

[balmy marsh]

We tend to follow the already-given adventure maps. For example, if it's an adventure 12 map for adventure 13, then we follow adventure 12. Same with if it's adventure 11 or 9 iirc.

[wise berry]

I just always wait until the next day, or ask someone here or in my guild discord 🤷‍♂️

[rocky blade]

Ok but disturbing people for that is tiring after a while. Probably I have the issue because I only do map 12 on adventure 13.
BTW what's the map on adventure 13 today ?

[wise berry]

13-9

galahad

I start in one guild day, then finish the adventure the next guild day, so I have the option to raid the 2nd day

if it's not adv 13-10, I start another, if it's 13-10 I raid that day

don't remember having back to back 13-10's, but that's the only thing that would really mess me up

[wise berry]

btw, don't be afraid to try adv 13-11 or 13-9, 13-12 is the easiest, but unless your teammates are really carrying you the others are not that much worse

[rocky blade]

Yes, I'm thinking they shouldn't too hard, I'm much more worried that if my teammate don't do well, I won't be able to carry them as much as I can on map 12.
Between 13-11 and 13-9, which would you say is easier/safer than the other ?

[wise berry]

adventure 13-9 is probably easier, tho the boss is little harder than orion (because most people have osh team)

[balmy marsh]

Adventure map 12 is honestly the best imo because you get a few spare moves to make room for mistakes and boss route is pretty easy itself.

[wise berry]

yes, we were talking about the next easiest 😂

imo probably; 13-12, 13-9, 13-11, 13-10 (easiest to hardest)

[gusty lichen]

this 40k pure from heidi...is the star by the number indicating an adventure buff? or something else

[vocal plume]

I believe the stars relate to Polaris

[wise berry]

ascension skill boosted

pet paw means pet boosted

[vocal plume]

<@&729965095974731787> Clean up Aisle 6-12

😄

[wooden stag]

you're a senior member here, ya know how to use a broom and mop haha

🧹

[rose sequoia]

the target/crosshair/bullseye thing means its from asc skills

[gusty lichen]

what is the recco team power for adventure 11?

[gleaming sage]

220k power for dante tank team with dante 100k

others can be around 300-400k

kill boss one shot with rufus(10k)-arachne(15k)-issac(60k)-jhu(70k)-martha(40k)

[void nova]

I'd perhaps argue that 13-9 has some tough buffs near the end and if one of the paths fail, there is no way to salvage even for 3 chests.

[void nova]

Eh, that's perhaps the worst page in adventures anyway 😄
Some time ago I made some edits in level 12 to include correct numbers for level 13. But then I found out that the level numbers also differ in 13-9. Not sure if 13-10 and 13-11 has any of these problems though.

I think the Strategy section could be either entirely removed or replaced with a small selection of good strategies from levels 9-12.

[acoustic hornet]

the pictures are still good. double spiral is nice

[void nova]

I mean, level 13 page is weird. Of course the level 9-12 links are useful, I think the page is quite useful as a signpost, but it could sure be improved. New players are sometimes confused and don't understand the preview shows which map it is 🙂

And thanks for the praise for Duo Spiral 🙂 I'm not sure if someone else came up with the same idea before me somewhere else, but I authored both spirals and then the self-titled strategy that I don't recommend as much 🙂

Shiskk did a great job with the initial setup of adventures and perhaps other things on the Fandom site. I don't have as much know-how in how templates are made on Fandom. But after the initial boom, the chat went mostly dormant with most comments from 2022 onwards being mine 😄 Sometimes with maps, too, that I didn't see as serious strategies.

I did some heavy editing of level 12 page in August 2023, creating the categories depending on the interactivity level. I think the interactive strategies may be fun when players are in the same timezone and they actually want to have fun together. But what's absolutely not fun is a player going offline for 12 hours in an interactive strategy and others waiting for them, perhaps even missing out on daily / prestige quest because of that. Hence I recommend the non-interactive ones the most.

Anyway ... the truly non-interactive section might be seen as a bit of a self-promo, considering that I made both of the strategies in it myself 😅

[void nova]

Btw. one more thing I did on Fandom for level 12, I wrote some more text for the individual strategies where there was none (or where the text didn't say much at all). It's basically editor's notes, giving players more than just an image and squad numbers to use for their decision on why should they try one of the strategies.

[wise berry]

yeah, but it lets you mess up more than 13-11

[void nova]

Yeah, that's true. But where failure in 13-11 only costs you the 3rd normal chests, in 13-9 you can easily fail the boss entirely. For this reason, I would still rate 13-9 as the more difficult one. I don't recall ever losing boss chest in 13-11, but in 13-9, oh boy.

[wise berry]

🤷‍♂️ personal opinion I guess, I got my frame purely from 13-9's funnily enough, so I may see it as a bit easier

now I fight all of them except 13-10

[void nova]

One more thing on level 12: I think that having this many strategies may confuse new players. Maybe I'll create some archive section to hide a few strategies that are either very suboptimal or very similar to others. Might move the following:

• Calvinthesneak - very similar to OnePunchMan, but the sides don't meet, increasing the risk
• Shiskk - sides do meet like in OnePunchMan's, but left side wastes a move, comparatively
• Wanknspank - because, basically, Solfors is kinda bad and it needs no more propagation
• maybe H3War - still better than Solfors, but not by too much

Done, I guess ... let the good strategies stand out a bit more.

(And I wouldn't mind some feedback on that, as I have three "horses in the race".)

[void nova]

That doesn't seem very ... adventurous ... to me.

[rocky blade]

If you're carried by others, you can do the right path of 13. But +250% health and +100 damage positions at 650k will be hard for you and there's normally one on that path. Check for a path hat doesn't mandate you must take it.

[rocky blade]

I had my first victory recently in 13-9 and I was worried for exactly this reason, but only the last few position have strong buff, and you arrive to them with 2 bonus, so if you have good partners I now feels it's allright.
It's of course still a map that one person can ruin for everybody easily.

[rocky blade]

I love OnePunchMan but I now have a weakness for path where the second player can attack the boss without waiting for the third. TBH it can be done in OnePunchMan if 1st player has done all the optional full success moves.

Adventure 13 of the day : Map 9 with Tank+300% and Warrior +75% phys attack
(because it's not possible to check the current setting of adv 13 when you're already in an adventure, I'm considering regularly reporting the status here. Tell me if you think it's a good idea)

[void nova]

Yeah, the part with ruining it is the reason I see it as difficult. I don't remember many level 11 or 13-11 runs where boss survived. But once even a very good player that I hold in great respect failed really hard on the upper path of 13-9, she didn't have the right heroes to deal with the physical resistance buffs. She'd probably crush the middle path that I took, and I'd do better on blue. Such failures can be disheartening.

[void nova]

Yeah, there are multiple approaches to playing it as a duo. I also saw something I call "Solfors on steroids" where a player on the side takes a little Spiral-like path, but with also taking 28-29 or 26-25, considering the middle player is not expected to be running circles. This gives the middle player 4 extra moves, making an early detour possible. I still prefer my Duo Spiral though.

Anyway, I hope nobody has any hard feelings about the 4 maps I moved down to the archived section. I think these strategies helped make a lot of progress, but I think they've been bested.

[void nova]

Oh, by the way, OnePunchMan could be converted to a duo map quite easily, provided that blue manages a full clear: Green can take red's first step and still have room for 5 defeats. Still room for 3 defeats if clearing 25. But at this point it seems to me like just a riskier approach to what Duo Spiral does quite nicely and cleanly 🙂

[void nova]

13-10 dealt with today. The buffed chimp in #7 was too much for Soll's team, but that was the only defeat.

[balmy helm]

this is quite a glitch in Siege of Stronghold (5)

[silk parrot]

not glitch you can get extra points on adventure

[balmy helm]

since when

[silk parrot]

always if your guildates can get boss then you can get extra points by attacking by your extra moves

[balmy helm]

ahh i see

thank you for the info

[silk parrot]

Welcome!

I do like that if some time team fails one battle

[void nova]

Since level 1 🙂 Do you remember you could basically get 4 chests on your own without clearing the map fully? Some levels have more extra levels, some have fewer.

But most strategies aim for the exact amount of points, focusing more on safety than clearing any extra camps.

(Which is quite legitimate.)

[silk parrot]

yeah exactly but if someone fails any attack then we should consider extra points