adventures

[vocal plume]

been so long i dont recall

[near radish]

blue pet

[vocal plume]

Base blue, not +1?

[near radish]

it is completely random - rolled at guild day reset

[near radish]

base

[vocal plume]

Thanks mate!

[near radish]

for pets - you use pet depending on your team - there is no point using some random pet which doesn't match your setup

[wise berry]

maybe, but I survived the second attempt, so we'll never know

that's the last node on adventure 11, plus I beat it, so I don't want to drop to 9 since 10 is just a pain

[idle egret]

Cool... i take it back 😉

[wise berry]

np, I've told people to do that before too, but even if I'm not really ready for it yet, 3-chesting 11 every once in a while (when the daily buffs are bad for me) is better than 4-chesting 9, as long as I'm reasonably consistent with 11

[idle egret]

i dont look at it that way... i loo at the other 2 that joined.. i dont wanna mess up their portal with losing

[wise berry]

the other 2 are good friends of mine (and both are way better, so I probably could've lost that node, lol)

[idle egret]

All good 😉

[hazy mural]

Correct

[rose sequoia]

Bc you have a bad tank

[gusty lichen]

yeah! one of those would be nice:)

[rose sequoia]

Your DD is also bad

[frozen cargo]

Mine could use some work as well.

[rose sequoia]

Create those items bruh

Get them equipped to Daredevil fr

[gusty lichen]

I know. I prioritize OSH team above all else. Am challenged in other parts of the game but thats ok.

my teams here... good enough for 5th place today in grand arena

[frozen cargo]

Just for that, I am abandoning my other hero plans and focusing on dd up to red+2

[rose sequoia]

Simp

[frozen cargo]

Astrid is going to be the tough one.

You know, I like how this Rowdy skin actually modifies the hand position for Daredevil. Holding a firecracker like this where all other skins carry a second gun.

[placid granite]

Why is the corrupted Galahad of AD13-9 difficult to take down while he himself gets a bad name, Galabad? Except for the classic team of Yasmine, Jhu and Dorian, how can I gather another team to battle him?

[near radish]

dante, aurora, heidi - also good there

same goes for most stunners which you can manually trigger stun at proper moment

[placid granite]

Which hero is patroned by Cain?

[near radish]

one used in a team... i just listed good heroes

dante and aurora usually shouldn't be in same team

another thing that can help is high armor

[frozen cargo]

Corrupted Galahad gets boosts that regular Galahad does not.

[near radish]

just set cursor over "Boss" buff in top right corner to see how much he is buffed

[placid granite]

But Corrupted Cleaver and Orion is easy to beat though boosted.

[near radish]

because cleaver is so useless that even this boost can't help him much

and orion has very heavy counters available

strongest counters to galahad are rng based which makes big difference with this buff

[placid granite]

Is Corrupted Ginger easy to handle? I never hit her.

[frozen cargo]

That's awfully chivalrous of you.

[placid granite]

I leave the job to the player over 1 million power.

[hazy mural]

corrupted galahad is not too bad i use dante/jhu/neb/seb/martha

and just time the dante ultimates to stop gala's main ability

[idle egret]

🤣

[vague valley]

LoL 😅

[gusty lichen]

i don't understand why heidi didn't destroy this adventure team https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1713842006995857651

what are all these negative percents / crossed out?

[near radish]

those % numbers are energy gain...
crosed out ones are blocked by jorgen

[gusty lichen]

my pet peeve is using adv9 pathing for 13-9...why did nexster change the node numbers...and is there a good resource with adv13 pathing w correct node numbers?

[near radish]

never seen any... i just use picture with paths and don't care about numbers

[frozen cargo]

There are numbers?

[wise berry]

yes

[gusty lichen]

YEAH i use picture as well but when my co-horts ask me where they should go..its nice to give them the numbers in case they are looking at a different picture

[near radish]

in such case i just check what numbers are in adventure and write it... happens rarely enough so i didn't even bother saving this anywhere

[gusty lichen]

so in adventures the mobs are max but do not include ascension whereas...max testing are max AND include ascension? do i have that right?

[stark axle]

adventure 13s are a VERY old max before asgard and new artefacts.

max testing is max testing, there every new addition is added

[terse flame]

AD 13 max teams r 600k....so missing a lot of things

[wise berry]

and no red artifacts

[gusty lichen]

yeah my teams were failing 70pct vs. max testing but when in the adventure i won 100pct of them 🙂 still it was a useful tool given that i could win a few matches vs. max to give me hope for beating the old max

[gusty lichen]

doing 13-10

[hollow bone]

oof

[wise berry]

which pet should I spend my cp on (and how)?

[near radish]

depends on your team and your goal:
1 - dante team = cain
2 - guild raid = oliver
3 - any other - axel

[wise berry]

what about aurora team?

[near radish]

either axel as team pet or cain for aurora patronage

[wise berry]

okay

@near radish I never used to see you #💬general but I see you a lot in various other channels, do you avoid it for some reason?

[near radish]

yes.. to much foreign language talks

no point sitting o channel i can't follow discussion

[wise berry]

yeah, they do have separate language channels, but it does creep into general

[near radish]

everything there is foreign language for me

[wise berry]

what is your native language?

or first language, I don't know which one is politically correct nowadays, lol

[near radish]

polish

[gleaming sage]

ofc cain :))

[wise berry]

left-side tho? it seems like a lot of cp before I can get him to +2

[near radish]

right side - patronage power... skill power is secondary thing

[frozen cargo]

Depends on the pet.

[near radish]

nope... talk is precisely about cain

[frozen cargo]

In that case, both sides are important.

[wise berry]

right side already finished, debating about trying to get him to v2 and then doing rightside, or doing a different pet

[gusty lichen]

insane fight adv 13

[frozen cargo]

Insane?

[solar sundial]

What's Jorgen for? 🙂

[gusty lichen]

he supresses energy gain. the opposing team had 4 buffs all 100pct incr to energy gain...also keeps the armor artifacts (corvus/luther) down

[frozen cargo]

3 moves? Ouch

Amira isn't as strong in adventure as she is in pvp. So if you struggle there, you will struggle everywhere

[near radish]

this is node with hp or dmg buff but it is adv 12, so dante should clear it without any problems

[near radish]

sometimes i just can't find words... adv.13, node 25 - 100% physical dmg reduction:

and ofc this stupid pattern with only one mistake on middle allowed instead of 2

[acoustic hornet]

i think i should start adventure 3. 😁

[wise berry]

you should convince your guildmates to do higher-level adventures so they get more rewards

[frozen cargo]

Nah, start that 3.

[stark axle]

start a 7 😂

7 people in active adventures 💀

u guys like the waiting game?

[acoustic hornet]

playing adventure deadlock on server 320 😁

[acoustic hornet]

if they read guild chat, yes, i could. 😂

[candid prairie]

Some are good players, some others are good buyers...

[terse flame]

Everyone should do the highest AD they can beat with 4 chest on

[wise berry]

lol

[frozen cargo]

Some are not good at either of these things. A lotta bad buys out there.

[terse flame]

Or like me....average player with low spending 🤣

[rocky blade]

3-chesting 11 is almost as good as 4 chesting adventure 10, and if anybody screws up even only 1 attack in adventure 10, you can't 4 chest it, which happens very frequently even when everybody has a team much above the min required.
Adventure 10 is a pain

[wise berry]

yeah, I'm consistently doing 11 now, and have done 12 (tho only 3-chest)

[rocky blade]

Blue for the patronnage, but violet for the extra skill. Patronnage without the skill is a lot less powerful

[rocky blade]

You shouldn't do green path if you're not the strongest team. In adventure 11, it's weakest team on blue, and the two others on orange/green depending on circumstances. Sometime you may want to put the strongest team on orange to make sure you don't miss the 4 chests. If blue is really weak, you need a really strong green team than can beat #34 and the boss in one attack to take position 41 instead of blue.

[rocky blade]

oh great, my partners on 11 who are stronger than me told me that 12 was really hard, they didn't even get 3 chest, so I didn't try yet.

[vocal plume]

12 is a challenge at first, but you will find you quickly grow into it

[rocky blade]

ok, the guy who told me that has recently beat #34 in adventure 11 in one try even though it had Martha with a +100% attack buff for healers ! (and Ziri also) So I was thinking 12 had to be really hard. Maybe he was just unlucky on that day.

[vocal plume]

Yeah the daily buffs really matter as well as the 'static' buffs on various positions...

[wise berry]

The routes we ran I got carried in 12, but one of my guildmates got to skippy-skippy and kept losing one battle because of the anti-nodes, so I had to cut in to take down the boss (with the heal tower still up), but it was pretty easy

[wise berry]

what is so hard about about #34 in adv 11?

[frozen cargo]

I don't see anything especially difficult about this node.

[near radish]

unbuffed enemies with no healer... just hp buff is nothing special with trash team combo

[frozen cargo]

I could see some potential problems if you are punching above your weight.

Helios if you focus on crit heroes. Cleaver and Arachne if you don't have good stun mitigation. Ceit boosted Artemis could be powerful.

[wise berry]

stormfury said 11

[frozen cargo]

This is 11.

On the same route...

[rocky blade]

Very high health with the +150% on health. For the other bonus in adventure 11, you can just adapt your attacking team, use a physical damage team where there's 80% reduction on magic damage, use a magic damage team where there's 80% reduction on physical damage, avoid pure damage heros where there's 80% reduction on pure damage, but there there's no work around for this one, you need to deliver a lot of damage, the fight will be much longer and can time out before you've exhausted the health of the team you attack.

Then comes the issue that this time the team had martha as healer, so would recover a lot of health, with a 100% bonus on the strength of her tea party skill.

And also the team had ziri, which is amongst the heros with the highest health.

Of course this is beatable with the appropriate team, I just mean he is a good margin above the minimum level normally required to complete adventure 11, so when he told me he had major difficulties in adventure 12, that was a bit discouraging for me to attempt it.

[somber flume]

12 resistance is a lot more pronounced than 11. It's way harder to brute force a 90% res than a 80% res

the entry level in 12 is also higher unless you have big whales carrying you

if your group is 3 ppl hanging around 500-600k it's kind of difficult. 1 member at 700-800k and 2 members at 400k probs have a better chance of 4-chest adv12

[gleaming sage]

500-600k is okay with good counter and mix of mage + phy

[somber flume]

it's not impossible, it's just difficult

because nobody can cover other routes should something bad happen

[gleaming sage]

then accept 3 chests 😄

[frozen cargo]

I remember facing a Corvus in that 150 health boosted node. Ouch.

[wise berry]

I just use yas, pure damage kills them and blocks healing

[rocky blade]

In the skill description, the level of healing blocking of yas isn't very impressing. I know I tried to use that in chapter 14 of campaign to block the healing from the priests of Seymour but without much result. In the end, healing blocking from Celeste seemed much more efficient. But maybe my yasmine was just too weak.

[near radish]

she is always weak at later stages of game

[frozen cargo]

Priest of Seymour heal beam is unmatched. It's stronger than Celeste + Marta combined.

Yasmine heal blocking isn't the highest, but it compounds. You just need to hit more. Do you use Yasmine as a tank?

With Priests, It was most efficient to just one hit them using a magic attack boosted or faceless copied Cornelius.

We're in the wrong section again...

[wise berry]

priest of seymour healing is crazy, it will burn through most heal-blocking extremely fast, I used biscuit to counter him, and when he self-heals it is good to silence or stun him

as for countering martha's healing yas will pretty much full-block the healing, because martha's healing comes in smaller individual ticks

also, all you need is some weak aoe to nullify martha's group heal

[somber flume]

back when i was weak i tend to bring biscuit team pet just for martha in adventure

[stark axle]

back when i was weak, there was no biskuit 😂
great example how the pve game gets progressively easier

[frozen cargo]

Indeed

Pretty sure the adventure mode hasn't changed since pets were created.

[stark axle]

yes

at least its the same since 2019

[heady flax]

will they upgrad it

[stark axle]

im asking them about that since 2 years.... never say never but i doubt it

[frozen cargo]

They have suggested that they have no intention of doing so.

[stark axle]

i mean its OK, if u do 13s daily, u get more material then u need to get 1 per per year to max

[still mesa]

can i do adventure 11 if i only have 1 team that does physical damage and no way to do magic damage?

[vague valley]

How much power?

[still mesa]

this is the team is use (not sure if flags are included in adventures)

can also swap jhu with iris

but i've had better success with jhu over iris in other adventures

[brave coral]

Without flags.

[stark axle]

that should be enough to do 12s on marksmen buff days

[still mesa]

oh cool

[stark axle]

for 11, i never saw someone fail while over 400k power, even with MUCH worse heros

i started 11 around 320k or so 😉 i never failed an attack there

[still mesa]

good to know, thanks

[stark axle]

i think i started 12 around 430k

but that was before iris and before dante got that good... now it should be easier... if u have 2 guildmates at equal or higher strength, try 12 soon 😉

but there, one has to be quite flexible, bc the static buffs are 90% instead of 80 like in 11

so 12 is the first one where u have to really pay attention to static buffs

[terse flame]

u want Neb to buff Dante, and Jhu is on the way....so i would use iris, but switch team pet to Axel so dante survives better.

if u have Jet, use Jet instead of Iris and Jhu

[versed trench]

i am 500k with iris i probably should give it a try

[stark axle]

yes

[stark axle]

ive seen some mad lad in 13 at 450k

but hes one of those who knew a LOT more about the game then i do... learned a lot from him

so the average player wont be able to do that... even slightly above average wont be enough

i think i started 13s on good buffs around 550k. for the average player i suggest 600k. for mindless spenders i suggest to just do 12s all the time

[rose sequoia]

That sounds right for a meta team

Just have decent low-investment Controls subs or run Control team

[stark axle]

he had Heidi and controls

first player i saw using heidi

[rose sequoia]

Yeah that's what I was thinking

[rose sequoia]

I saw Dusk using Heidi for a long time at this point, but I think maybe I alr knew about Heidi even then. Idk

[stark axle]

january 2021?

[rose sequoia]

Heidi has been good for a long time so I don't really remember the very first person I saw

[rose sequoia]

I have no idea

[stark axle]

ok lol

[hazy mural]

i think i did my first at 550k with good buffs also

and then consistently at 600k+(but id always make sure i did the best path for me)

[copper valve]

can i beat adv 11 with this team?

[shell halo]

110 resistance to 185 storm. Dorian is essential and a second healer. I'm surprised myself that everyone survives.
https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1715280748330023875

[terse flame]

I started ad12 when 400~450k with twins team, but depends on the buff too

[versed trench]

I have twins too but Rufus just hard counter me with any variation i have --20k morrigan so won’t work

[rocky blade]

But then positions with pure damage reduction must be hard with heidi ?

[rocky blade]

Usually my reflex is just "I see Rufus, I use Dante tank".

[rocky blade]

I use that team quite a bit, but it doesn't work everytime. Well your Dante is sigificantly stronger than mine, so should be easier for you.
It's usually my goto choice against Rufus, and also frequently against control heros, and Kaira.

[rocky blade]

So with it you could have some issues with blue and orange path (solfor map), wich include in the path a position with 80% physical damage reduction.
But depending on the first artefact of sebastian, you might have enough pure damage for this not to be too much of an issue.
Green path should be ok usually, even though it includes positions 34, which is usually the most difficult of the map with a +150% health bonus. I don't know if this team can beat the boss in one try, but I doubt it since it's much easier with a good magic defense that you don't have here. Without a high magic defense, each attacks adds so much energy to the corrupted orion, he will ult non stop.

[terse flame]

I still use twins with Morrigan....

[rocky blade]

I've seen a video on youtube, where the orion boss is beaten with a team quite similar to yours (lot of physical damage) , but the team includes keira which IMO helps a lot, because it's very visible in the video that keira silences the boss very frequently, blocking his ult.
Cain will be no use against that boss, as there's almost no physical damage to dodge, basically you need axel.

[gleaming sage]

ez

[frozen cargo]

Silence is nice vs Orion boss. Isaac, Thea, Keira... But also, Lian charm will stop the ult mid animation. Same with Galahad and Ginger. Or... At least, that is how I remember it.

[rose sequoia]

Control lets you use phys or magic to kill them over time

[rose sequoia]

Satori vs. Onion boss = win

[frozen cargo]

Who has satori tho

[rose sequoia]

@winter wave @violet cloak and prob some whales

Leyla quit I think, but she could kill Onion boss with Satori faster/better than I could with Isaac

[near radish]

need about 30k satori for adv 11 boss

[rose sequoia]

a13-11 I believe

Idk if Leyla did a13 consistently tho

[violet cloak]

Why, hello there good sir! I happen to be one of these unicorns that decided to main Satori.

[rose sequoia]

Wth

You're never active

Are your potatoes alright

[violet cloak]

Heh. How goes the battle?

[rose sequoia]

School is trash

[violet cloak]

Eh.

[violet cloak]

Tell me something I don’t know. 😂

[rose sequoia]

Are you still working with that guy you said you were travelling to earlier last year?

[violet cloak]

I’m working with a different potato farmer currently.

[rose sequoia]

Damn what happened

[violet cloak]

I’ve been working with both over the years.

[rose sequoia]

Are they both in the same state?

Did you quit HW?

[violet cloak]

Not sure if/when I’ll be going to the other, but I’m not yet.

[violet cloak]

Heh. Nope.

[rose sequoia]

Do you have any hobbies??? Or just potat all day

[violet cloak]

Quit, no. Has my play been inconsistent as of the last couple months? Most certainly.

[rose sequoia]

Damn are you balling with your friends at the bar then

[violet cloak]

Sure, I have other things that I do. Theological stuff, Risk, and a few other games(Idle Monster Frontier has been nice, although not the only one) have been a few of my more recent consistent non-work activities as of late. I’ve also been enjoying watching Psych with my family in the evenings.

[rose sequoia]

Do you live with your family? I thought you moved out to live with the potat farmer

[violet cloak]

Friends? Bar? Nah mate. Never been interested much in alcohol, and even if I did desire some, I would have to acquire that by other means.

[rose sequoia]

No friends? Why

[violet cloak]

When I’m there, yes. When I’m here I’ve been with family.

[rose sequoia]

Can you rephrase

What is there and here

Also is Pysch not like a 60s show

[violet cloak]

I’m out of touch with most of my own generation. Overlap in interests tends not to be very commonplace. Frankly I don’t have a lot in common in terms of things to bond over with a lot of the people I know. I get along well enough with most people, but close with but few, and most of those I suspect are too busy for me anyhow given how things go at times.

[violet cloak]

Here is where I am now. There is where I worked last summer/fall.

[violet cloak]

Psych is a 2000s show.

[rose sequoia]

Womp womp

[rose sequoia]

Oh cool so you're with your family now

Good for you

[rose sequoia]

That's what I said

[violet cloak]

That is the case at this current point in time, yes.

[violet cloak]

That’s a 40 year difference mate.

[frozen cargo]

We used to have a Satori main in guild. I have no idea where he moved onto. A strong hero forsooth. Just not a cookie cutter Meta hero. Props

[violet cloak]

Always has been a fun one to make work.

[frozen cargo]

Unlike those loopy Ginger mains...

[vague valley]

Yay! Let's go...

[gleaming sage]

why 11?

[whole marsh]

thats the max possible with her team maybe

I did 12 for like 40 times

After a few days, I was able to do 13 lol

[vague valley]

I want to try 12, I try it from 3 months ago and I Lose, but I have Significant improvement in my team so maybe I can win...

[winter wave]

It was really fun

[terse flame]

if u have strong guildmates, 12 is much easier than 11

[vague valley]

Sure my guildmates Majority in best players

[versed trench]

Finally adv 12 is down

[wise berry]

you have a +800k team, go and do 12

[vague valley]

Hostelly I not try, I will.....

[gusty lichen]

any ideas here? the team i used below failed...didn't kill anyone

3 buffed tanks and 1 buffed marksman ...adv 13-11

pure damage resist and 100pct damage increase

[near radish]

so why corvus? pure dmg resist makes him useless

in this case asta would be much better... another thing is dorian - not very useful for jhu with so many heroes between them

especially with axel tho will redirect all dmg from weak dorian and jorgen into other heroes

[gusty lichen]

yeah dorian was to help jorgen survive...but he died to luther before he could ult

asto would be better

[near radish]

i would go either with asta/jhu/neb/seb/martha or aurora/neb/seb/martha

last one in second team either try polaris, or heidi for dodge bonus...

[gusty lichen]

will try first team...heidi dodge bonus would be nice but he does all pure damage

[near radish]

buffed aurora for dd - just affraid a bit that chabba would eat her to fast...

[gusty lichen]

what about aurora/jhu/neb/seb/martha....and would you put cain on aurora and oliver on seb since albus patron is weaker here (pure resist)

asto has 328k health and aurora 245k health

thank you! i put fenris on seb instead of albus..idk if it mattered much

[hazy mural]

800k is overkill for 12

[wise berry]

that's why I said they should do 12, rather than keep beating 11

[somber flume]

you needed neb buff for jhu+seb to kill thea, is all

otherwise you're just feeding the heals since jorgen curse doesnt get to her

[hazy mural]

800 is enough for probably 1 path on a13 maps tbh

[wise berry]

gotta beat 12 first

[hazy mural]

i was doing 13s with less(i would make sure i started the map for a favourable path for my team)

dependin on the 800k team its probably a13 ready

[wise berry]

probably, but I dunno if she's beaten 12 already, or enough times to get the bonus portal charges

[hazy mural]

probably not it would seem im just saying in terms of power level

[somber flume]

her team was strictly osh team with no swap

[hazy mural]

hmmmmmm still for sure enough for 12s

idk about 13s with that team+zero swaps

[near radish]

13 may need some swaps - at least astaroth for nodes with chabba or iris

[gusty lichen]

ive done adventure 12 90x and 13 30x

usually do 13-12 but recently been doing all 13s if good buffs... about 50pct right now 3 vs 4 chests (when jorgen is buffed auto win)

still some tricky nodes tho

680k main team

physical paths only

[hazy mural]

I do all 13s except 13-10 but my team is 1m with multiple swaps

I was doing all 13s at like 750-800 with no swaps before though

[hazy mural]

If you have strong friends 13s aren't too bad once you're 700k+

You just take the easiest path for you

[terse flame]

Yeah I play 2 accounts and usually after I am done with AD13 (12 map), physical route just need 6-7 attacks with 15 moves

[rose sequoia]

From @stark axle - had my guildmates carry me for my first a13 and then raided it 120 times. Good paths for a first a13

[terse flame]

Similar as mine, except I couldn't wait for my right route guildmate to join me to clear buff so the mid route had to waste 2 moves and attack both route 😅

[rose sequoia]

This is just the set of paths I used for my first a13

Obv if you use a magic team, mirror the map

And if you use pure, doesn't matter

I just got my guild master to use two of his accs doing the blue and black, and I did the red

[hazy marlin]

damn didn't know this could be done. Seems quite easy. I have a 800k dante team still die on adv 13 as sometimes it has 100% phys resist

but how did you move from middle top left to mid straight? There's a fight in between them.

[near radish]

it always have 100% phys resist on some paths in adv 13...

[near radish]

you have paths drawn on map... if you mean this part:

you either fight this node between, or go trough empty one you cleared before

[rocky blade]

That doesn't take a lot of ressources !

[rocky blade]

I've tested since as I said I do have that team reasonably developed (total power is actully quite a bit above yours with a strong Axel) and actually I could kill the adventure 11 boss in one attack.
I must give you a warning though, Orion did 5 million damage which yes is a lot.

So how could my team survive this much damage (which matches the scenario I expectd) ?
The team actually didn't, only Jhu survived taking 3 million damage. So Orion did so many attacks he kept him constantly in his immortal rage state.

[rose sequoia]

Why would you fight any 100% phys res squads if you use Dante? Just avoid the left side

[rocky blade]

But I think there's a bit too much randomness in that scenario to be reliable. If Jhu gets a salve of missiles just at the wrong moment, he will be killed.

[rose sequoia]

No, Jhu's ult prevents him from dying

Jhu can't die when his White skill is active

A better strategy than Dante there would probably be Isaac though (if your Isaac is upgraded at all)

Isaac would use his White skill constantly due to Orion's damage and provide lots of AP with his arti weapon

[near radish]

one problem against orion boss barrage - orion stuns

[rose sequoia]

Seb blocks those

[near radish]

stops blocking after death

[rocky blade]

I don't use that team usually to attack that boss. I did it because @still mesa said it was his team and wanted to know if he could reasonably do adventure 11. Yes very probably Isaac would be better.
Also you're right I've checked more carefully, Jhu's white skill was constantly activated mutiple time (usually 4 bars), so there was no risk he'd die between two activation.

[rocky blade]

Immediately after death, or just stops renewing the protection ? I didn't notice a single stun after his death.

[rose sequoia]

Stops blocking after 15 uses

Seb Ode can stay up even after he dies

[rocky blade]

So that team will work only if like in my case Orion has little health left when the rest of the team dies.

[rose sequoia]

As long as 🧅 doesn't do enough dmg to stun Jhu (and Jhu has high Health), then it's fine

[rocky blade]

The third skill stuns directly.

[rose sequoia]

That's every once in a while, so Seb (even dead) should cover that

That paralysis is the reason I didn't suggest Jhu Dorian type situation

[rocky blade]

Maybe it's a stupid question, but for adventure 13, do you know which map you'll get before entering the adventure ?

[wise berry]

yes

look through the image on the left that shows the boss in the adventure screen

whichever boss is shown in that will tell you the adventure map (galahad=9, ginger=10, orion=11, cleaver=12)

[hazy marlin]

I actually thought all sides have 100% phys resistance on adv 13 no matter which side you choose

are the resistances different for each map like 13-11,13-12 etc. or same on all side?

[near radish]

it is always 100% but number of nodes and their location is different on each map

[rose sequoia]

Left side is 100% phys res, right side is 100% magic res, and middle has all three types of res at 100%

I'm talking about a13-12 here

a13-12 has the same types of res in the same places as a12, at least generally

a13-11 has flipped sides compared to a11

[near radish]

it doesn't... 13-12 has more nodes with resists than 12

[rose sequoia]

at least generally

I mean like the same types of res on the same sides

Whereas a13-11 switches top and bottom path types of res

[somber flume]

13-12 has resist nodes near the entrance instead of in the middle of the route like 12. It matters for non-standard routes.

[hazy marlin]

no guys it's the type of resist that matters. Like which path for physical team in 13-10,13-11 and 13-12

so in 13-12 it's right for physical team as left has physical resist

[hazy mural]

for physical team use bottom path 13-9, skip 13-10, use an alternate top path for 13-11, and use right side path for 13-12

green path for 13-9, this red path ive drawn for 13-11 and adv 12 just use one of the many right side paths

[hazy marlin]

thanks a lot for this. But why skip 13-10? is it too hard?

[near radish]

it is same as normal 10 - no single mistake allowed and only 1 attempt on boss

[hazy mural]

there's also another tip for your adventures

once you complete the adventure and open your 4 boxes for the day dont leave the adventure

wait until the next day and then leave the adventure and then "raid" the adventure for 4 boxes for the next day

if you do this correctly you can actually just do 1 adventure per 3 days

day1 adventure+open boxes, day2 wait until after the day resets THEN leave adv and raid, day3 once your new day starts but dailies havent rolled over you can raid again

and dont bother with 13-10 as said above

[hazy marlin]

yeah i know about the raid thing. But do it every second day. Like 3 boxes today, 4th tomm and then raid

[rocky blade]

Why do you avoid the position with pure damage resistance in 13-11 ? Shouldn't a good physical team win despite that ?

[hazy mural]

You have to hit a physically immune position if you go the 'normal' top path on 13-11

It's about avoiding that battle not any pure resist battle

[somber flume]

that route is taking the pure res for 13-11. the other side have 1 phys res and 1 mag res.

[near radish]

though middle path is quite suboptimal

it is either do this one clockwise, or mirror it starting from second buff altar

[frozen cargo]

I find it is better to do middle path in an outward pattern instead of an inward direction. This way, if you miss 2 attacks, the top or bottom player can take out those two remaining teams without losing any additional moves (2) where if you do the inward direction, if you fail Attacks, it becomes impossible to get 4 chests.

[hazy mural]

I always do middle path now(because I start the adv) but i go in the reverse direction

For.13-11

[gusty lichen]

ok cleared adv 13 a few days ago (guild day 1 / quest day 1) collected chests and claimed quests. guild day 2 comes and goes then on guild day 3 I leave adventure and raid and claim quests from quest day 2 (guild day 3 / quest day 2) then before guild day 3 ends but after quests reset I raid again on guild day 3 to complete the quests for quest day 3. do i have this right?

[near radish]

1 - complete adventure, collect chests and exit adventure without closing it after guild day reset but before quest day reset
2 - wait until guild day reset, close adventure after guild day reset but before quest day reset, raid it first time
3 - wait until quest day reset, raid it second time after quest day reset but before guild day reset

[chilly crane]

debren has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[shy basin]

Anyone in server 274?

[stark axle]

unlikly
ask in server chat or PM someone directly ingame

[shy basin]

Ok

[placid granite]

Is Lara Croft a game changer?

[rose sequoia]

Eh

Other heroes have made bigger battle-related impacts

In terms of her unique expedition feature, that's a new thing that we might see in more heroes coming forward, altho I don't think Nexters has released an official comment about these traits

In terms of Nexters having a crossover with Tomb Raider, yeah kind of a game changer

They've always been silently plagiarizing with their hero names, but now they actually have permission and a contract 🥹

[placid granite]

With which hero, Lara and Polaris, do my team have more synergy effect? My team: Aurora, Dante, Neb, Seb, Martha, Axel.

[rose sequoia]

Aurora Dante doesn't work

[placid granite]

I can't get your point. I want to level up 1 more hero and intend to choose from Lara and Polaris.

[rose sequoia]

I'm saying neither works in your team bc your team needs other fixing

[placid granite]

What is the problem of my team?

[rose sequoia]

Aurora Dante, like I said

They work well individually, but not together

Only one of them can take Cain's patronage, but they both need it

[placid granite]

Then drop Aurora for Rufus. The question of Lara and Polaris still exists.

[rose sequoia]

Neither tbh

But Polaris is better for pvp

Lara might be better for progress, idk how big that abs arti boost is

[latent silo]

yall, im struggling here!!!

291 rocky cliff

[stark axle]

ask your guildmates

[latent silo]

crow is too low

[stark axle]

#adventures are a team efford. u need 3 players to play it

[latent silo]

30 smthn

[latent silo]

not lvl 1

lvl 2 thooo

[stark axle]

u have 1 guildmate and hes not even lvl 40?

[latent silo]

nerp

ik

womp womp

[stark axle]

ur almost lvl 70. u should be doing lvl 5+ or something

[latent silo]

im strugglin at lvl 2 😭 😭 😭

[stark axle]

whats your team? sounds like u did something wrong

[latent silo]

^^

[stark axle]

which is normal in the beginning, we all started somewhere

[stark axle]

no, i meant your top 5 heros

besides the fact that a guild with fewer than 20 members is pointless

unless its the first day of the server ur on

[latent silo]

been here since i started

[stark axle]

but in that case, recruit the hell out of the top 10 hero power

[latent silo]

just figured out how to do that lol

[stark axle]

and when was that? 2 hours ago? if not, look for an active guild

[latent silo]

my guild is active lol

i make it so

[stark axle]

i consider something like this an 'active' guild....

315k per week minimum.. thats 45k per day or 1.5k per player on average

so low budgets do 1250, mid budgets do 1750

1250 is easily doable as vip1

[latent silo]

im f2p

lmbo @stark axle

[stark axle]

ok, but even as vip0 u can easily do like 900 per day

[latent silo]

not meee

my butt in college lol

[stark axle]

if u dont do this, sure... but thats just ....

900 means 200 from missions

if u dont have time for that all of this is pointless anyway, as we try to optimize the subobtimal, but ur so subobtimal that any attempt to optimize is wasted time

if u want to stay vip0, fine.
but then just play the game, u wont get anywhere, this is heavily pay to win.

so its pointless to try to optimize

if u wanted to get somewhere, the most important thing would be to get into an active guild

[latent silo]

i take art comms 😅

[stark axle]

but if u want to stay in your dead guild instead, im just wasting my time

[latent silo]

dang, brutal much?

[stark axle]

guilds give u a lot of stuff for free

[stark axle]

im just giving u facts.

what else should i say? do u prefer to be lied to?

[latent silo]

i prefer to be told the truth nicely

keyword: nicely

[stark axle]

i started nicely, but u didnt seem to understand it that way, so i got more direct

anyway, have a nice weekend 🙂

[wise berry]

I'm VIP 0 and I've been doing 1750 for a long time, have to trade in recipes for green equipment, and some blue so I might get capped eventually, but havn't had issues so far

[stark axle]

yea i did 1750 for over a year as a vip5

once u play for a while ressources stack

[wise berry]

what should I do with regular items? trade them in for gold?

(not the ones I need ofc, but the ones you get from unintentional double-dipping)

usually white green and blue

[stark axle]

nah, either keep them for later or trade for activity on days where it lifts the guild to a higher reward

but i only started trading once i had EVERY hero at least violet

to not wreck your great storm, u need your osh team beyond 900k before ur able to do that

bc the storm scales with total hero power, so u want to keep it as low as possible relative to your strongest heros (aka DO NEVER level something u dont need)

[somber flume]

i traded in a lot and was almost running low on blue fragments (but still had a lot of greens). Although since pattern event became a thing, there was a lot of energy spending from me so i never lack things to trade in now

[rocky blade]

Interesting remark, however to get the 4 chests then another player than middle path will have to fail 0 attack while attacking much stronger positions. And you need to know early if it will be top or bottom.
This path also has the advantage that the top player can be very weak and to get 3 chests anyway if the middle path player pauses before the 2 last attacks and keeps ready to go remove a buff on the boss instead.
It's even possible to get 3 chests without a third player at all.

[somber flume]

2-manning 11 is easy to do, and can still get 4 chest if you dont lose more than once.

[near radish]

you can't get 4 chests with 2 ppl in 11... need 3...
and up to 3 fails allowed if there is person who can kill boss with single attack

[frozen cargo]

Honesty is nice, facts are crushing.

[frozen cargo]

I see. You are not advocating that the middle route turns inward, but you are suggesting waiting at the bottom or top right hand side and removing the boss buff if the situation calls for it.

[hazy mural]

I always do middle route clockwise then bottom player can kill last fight if you fail one and u can still 4 box it

But I actually check the only relevant fight on middle path before I even start (the physical resist node)

But I'm strong enough that it never seems like a problem now anyway tbh

My physical resist team is Rufus/Heidi/iris/Dorian/ Seb or martha

[somber flume]

when your teammates are decent then yea it is a little flexible

[hazy mural]

Seb if I need anti control Martha if not for just extra support

[somber flume]

not to the level of 12 map but still.

[hazy mural]

My team mates are all stronger than me

Map 12 is a joke tbh

[rocky blade]

I understand the confusion now. I didn't play adventure 13 yet. I thought the static bonus were the same for 13-11 as for 11, just stronger at 100%. I see now that their position and also number is quite modified. This makes things quite more difficult !
What does this buf I copied mean ? Magic damage +100 ?

[somber flume]

all damage +100%

[rocky blade]

Well then, before Ascension and the artifact at level 130, and with less heros, not Iris etc., I can't imagine how difficutl adventure 13 must have been !

[near radish]

not so much harder

most ppl doesn't have level 130 artifacts and won't have them for long time

[rocky blade]

Even now, do they have a mechanism to never put Rufus in a position that has 100% physical damage reduction ?
Probably there some other cases where magic damage is the solution to get rid of the team, and if the position has 100% magic damage reduction it gets really hard. Or in reverse with physical damage.

[somber flume]

enemies don't have pets anyways so a lot of things can be exploited there

i think that does happen. But you can still kill him with magic if you bring morrigan and can keep her alive.

something like corvus aidan on health node is demented too

but then again if you play map12, there are plenty of spare moves

[rocky blade]

Hum ? You will get a lot of skeleton, but you can't block Rufus from resurrecting ?

[somber flume]

her 4th skill blocks resurrection

[near radish]

it main purpose of morrigan - blocking resurrection.. skeletons are not important at all

[rocky blade]

Oh my bad, the description wasn't clear enough for me, I thought he'd resurrect and you'd get his skeleton !

[wise berry]

really? I have maxed aurora artifacts as a full f2p

[wise berry]

use morrigan(violet) for that rufus situation

[near radish]

did you max whole team already?

[wise berry]

no, but you could presumably get 130 artifact up reasonably fast with more red-artifact spending at lotgo

[near radish]

i managed to get 6 artifacts to 130 already... and 2 more in 110-120 range...

so yes, it is doable, but not a big gamechanger in adventures if you not spending enough to upgrade whole team already

[hazy marlin]

guys which adventure do we have in 13 today?

[iron nest]

13-9: Galahad

[stark axle]

while ur not in an adventure, u can allways check. if u are and its not a good one (13-10), u can just raid instead

[terse flame]

time to start saving CP for the next pet........

[frozen cargo]

New pet coming? I have been using all of my chaos on Biscuit to get him to V3.

[brave coral]

The black symbol on bottom left made some thinking.
#📢news message

[frozen cargo]

That resembles Vex. Interesting.

[brave coral]

A bit.

[hazy marlin]

thanks I didn't know that

[terse flame]

Nexters release new pet every year.....so i cant imagine this year any different

[frozen cargo]

Can we get a Collaboration pet to go with Collaboration Lara Croft? Maybe a Jigglypuff?

Would be a fun pet... Puts everyone to sleep.

[vocal plume]

lmfao

i wouldn't mind a 2nd pet for Nebula already

[frozen cargo]

A pet that can only exclusively be used with Aurora.

[vocal plume]

She already has half a dozen patronages

[frozen cargo]

Precisely.

Always keep the enemy guessing ... Like running a team of Dante, Aurora, Heidi, Nebula, Jet.

[somber flume]

hmm a pokemon collab would cost too much

what franchise can lend their pets to HW do you think

[frozen cargo]

Star trek? We could get the tribbles. Pikmen?

[gleaming sage]

next collab discussion ?

[frozen cargo]

For a pet.

Can't do Dogmeat since we already have Fenris. But there are other options.

[tawdry plinth]

a turtle

[frozen cargo]

We could use an Ant.

[acoustic hornet]

yes, i can confirm: rufus on 100% phys damage ressitant squads does happen in adventure 13.

[stark axle]

its safer to use heidi-morri tho.
rufus regenerates health with his ult if hit with magic damage. heidi is the only hero do deal pure damage without any conditions

[frozen cargo]

Annoying never the less

[gusty lichen]

been several weeks in adventure 12 where it stiffs me (no Chaos Particles)

[gleaming sage]

🥚

[frozen cargo]

The game knows what you need and is denying it to you.

[brave coral]

You do 11 with this?

12 left way should be no problem at all for your team.

For more flexibility you just need a pure damage dealer in my opinion.

Do they look stronger than they are?

Do you have higher powered opponents? I do right way on 12 with Dante tank and Orion / Iris in the backline.

Do you fail because of
.... doing less damage
....dying

Hmm. So Amira isn't doing enough damage. Which heroes do you already have a bit developed?

[near radish]

single hero? i would say either dante or jhu

[brave coral]

As she's doing spreaded damage to all opponents you need someone else targeting heroes one by one. Iris doesn't fit in your case. I really don't like her, but Yasmin seems to be the best and cheapest solution for me.

[near radish]

isn't it like you getting timeouts because of enemy controls?

[brave coral]

How far away is Amira actually from killing opponents?

[near radish]

it would mean you are picking wrong paths or facing rufus

[brave coral]

I know. But it should be massive, since all opponents are stunned.

You couldn't beat mage resist there and boss also is not really doable with these heros.

[near radish]

left or right - one of them is magic resist, other is physical damage resist and is done with magic or pure

[brave coral]

But she's working in adv 11?

I really have no idea why she's doing nothing....

I have a guild mate using Amira as well (red, not overpowered) and she's working good.

[near radish]

this particular case your problem is rufus

you need either completely physical dmg focused team or morrigan to counter him

[brave coral]

Do you have developed Cain?

Actually Dante tank would be the fastest, but you need to level Cain therefore.

Indeed.

[finite stag]

Why not just get a seb

Huh

Where Rufus

[brave coral]

Not really. He just supports the damage which is already there. And yes, with higher crit rate he helps a bit.

[finite stag]

Just build morrigan

53k jhu will bring you nothing lmao

[near radish]

morrigan is direct counter to rufus

[finite stag]

Do something like Amira morrie Arachne Polaris

Screw Asgard

[brave coral]

His Amira does not work.

Like normal one in arena.

Just purple.

[near radish]

she just need violet skill and stay alive until rufus dies first time... with morri in a team there is no res

[brave coral]

Originally I had a question before starting to write here. It doesn't fit for the channel but I think you know the answer. How can I get access to the pinned messages if I am on mobile?

I see. And than?

Where?

[rocky blade]

Which path do you do and where does this fight where you timeout happen ? On the solfor left path, only the last position #11 with pure damage resistance should be an issue for you.
Did you increase your heros's first artefact as much as possible ? How much armor has Martha in her firt artefact here ? Her and Rufus first artefact should block the damage from astrid,
This team has a bit of an armor penetration issue, so almost all the damage from Jhu will come from his pure damage, so that on position 11 he won't be of much use.
For adventure 12 left path, I think you actually should have more magic damage, as you have the Magic penetration+Magic attack with Polaris and Amira, but as the other heros don't reinforce this, it might to be unsufficient. However whenever you have to fight Rufus with that all magic damage team, it will be an issue. How do you do if you have Rufus on the 90% physical damage reduction positions of the left path ?
Adventure 12 is the adventure where it becomes hard to get by without several teams option and not only 5 strong heros.

Morrigan would be the solution when you face Rufus + physical damage reduction.

It's also an issue for osh fights, did you develop the osh team ? We discuss here previously a team that's quite good for physical damage positions in adventures, reusing 4 of the osh fight heros, so not needing a lot of investement for many people, it's Dante - Jhu - Nebula - Sebastian - Martha.

[rocky blade]

Morrigan also brings armor penetration, so I think he would be very good for you in many cases. You can replace Rufus with him to make your team a lot more agressive and lower timeout risk. With a strong martha, you don't need rufus for your team to survive except if the opposing team is very strong on magic damage.

Right path has three position with magic resist that will disable your Amira. Jhu alone won't do the job.
One last remark, Polaris both reduces physical damage and increases magic damage. As you have Amira, probably the increase on Amira's damage is so strong you don't even notice the reduction on physical damage, but anywhere you need the physical damage, that will be an issue.

[wise berry]

just add jhu to your rufus team for osh, his pure damage alone should make it worth it to keep him alive

[wise berry]

10mil is arguably still freeload at your level, but getting that 10mil gets you extra rewards, so I would try to get at least that, even if you don't want to build a proper osh team

[wise berry]

I thought Wyndia was pretty good?

😂

and the complaining about to much time has ended 🎉 😉

you working overtime and not getting paid?

go figure 😂

what type of personal project?

nice

demonistoxic is having a go at chili again

I moderately like computers, I do not like paint

[tawdry plinth]

just be more of a Jew- i mean jhu and buff him up you know

[acoustic hornet]

Starting from adventure 12 there are squads with unremovable and not ignorable really high (up to 100%) damage type resistance buffs or a 200% health increase. Check them out very thoroughly.
Together with the daily buffs and some hero combinations in the opponing squads can be a quite deadly combination.
For me at adv 11/12 i had to start adapting my attacking team to each of the defending squads. And make use of the daily buffs if you can. This can be very much fun.
If you keep failing an adventure level you probably better join the next lower one.
Maybe have a look at this adventure guide. i found some quite useful tips there: https://herowarsjpwebfb-com.translate.goog/adventure/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-chi&_x_tr_pto=wapp

[hazy mural]

I actually find the 250% bonus HP fights to be the hardest

Especially when paired with daily buffs that are good for that team

[placid granite]

How do you rank Kayla, Mushy & Mushroom and Polaris for Adventure use in Tier S, A, B, C and D list?

[gleaming sage]

F

[hazy mural]

That's not fair

Maybe Kayla is D tier 😂

[wise berry]

Why so low rank for polaris? she can be effective control, expecially in adventure when you can choose who she freezes

[dry sapphire]

obviously its a joke

polaris is devastating in the right team so is other heroes thats why they said that

i think 🤣

[placid granite]

Kayla is D. What do you think about Yasmine and K'arkh?

[near radish]

karkh a bit outdated, yas strong early but fails miserably late game

[placid granite]

I need to raise up a warrior. Some battles needs a warrior like today AD13.

[near radish]

i usually use arachne

almost always there are fights you can safely put her in a team and even profit from it... at relatively low power

[placid granite]

What rate do you comment on Kayla?

[near radish]

never seen her useful

[placid granite]

She always jump and kill my Orion at the back. I thought she was good and chose to level her few months ago.

What do think of Mushy & Mushroom and Julius as a tank?

[near radish]

very situational

[placid granite]

Which one do you rank higher?

[frozen cargo]

Kayla is D

[near radish]

none.. both are useful in few specific situations only

[frozen cargo]

Mushy has a place in Clash of worlds. And I recently ran into a trouble team using Julius. But... They can be bested.

[placid granite]

This is my Last Question. Listed below are heroes whose 1st artifact are magical defense: Maya, Cornelius, Thea, Phobos, Markus and Peppy. I want to choose one to level up. Which hero do you recommend?

[frozen cargo]

What is your end game?

Thea is a strong healer, she begins to outshine Martha in many situations. Cornelius is part of the most End game Osh Meta that you can find... People hitting over 900m damage in guild raid. Maya is occasionally useful in a stun lock team to strip Sebastian ode and allow for Arachne to stun. Markus should stay low. I don't know if Peppy or Phobos have any specific reasons to level.

[stark axle]

non of them really unless u have like 15 first artefacts already at max including jet and the old osh team besides isaac (DO NOT DO Cornelius #1, no matter how many u have)

[stark axle]

but for cornelius against osh, his #1 artefact is a hinderance.. if its too big, u cant hit big numbers consistently (could even be impossible, im not sure)

but a big #1 corni artefact could lead to the whole team being nightmared. leave it at 100 or below for best results

[frozen cargo]

I think the point is for the magic defense. I haven't used Cornelius in pvp so i don't expect it helps more than his other ability.

[placid granite]

By the way, what is the level of Issac first artifact appropriate?

[stark axle]

118 is max for cornelius team

[placid granite]

How about Isaac 1st artifact level in old OSH team?

[near radish]

similar

[frozen cargo]

Best not to go over 118 regardless.

[rose sequoia]

If it gives the max amount of AP due to number of ults, then it should be the same for both teams no?

[frozen cargo]

I built to 120 before someone figured it out.

[rose sequoia]

This is why we need the abiliity to deactivate upgs without getting any resources back

Like Isaac arti weapon lvl 130 for pvp actually sounds fine

But not on Osh so we don't do it

[frozen cargo]

My second artifact isn't maxed though... Maybe can compensate? Won't know until I try... Which I don't have plans for.

With Anira, Iris, Polaris... I don't have the resources for Cornelius

[wise berry]

yeah, expecially if you didn't upgrade his ap through skin then maybe you'll be able to get away with it

[stark axle]

u can allways do the maths
isaac 2 and 3 are best kept at 100/6 tho.
if ur still below that, good for u.

or if u dont have the AP skin for isaac, then it also still works

[frozen cargo]

Pretty sure I maxed the Ap skin as soon as it was released.

Because... AP is good... Must have

[hazy mural]

Damn I maxed Isaac ring

But book is like 27 or something 🤣

[stark axle]

should still work then

[golden notch]

Facts

[wise berry]

you can follow the same path (not the numbers, but looking at the map itself) but the nodes will be different for the resistances and health and damage boosts

np

[terse flame]

Before opening AD look at the pic to see which map it is

[frozen cargo]

Do you not have physical damage dealers? Seems odd to bring Lian against a 90% magic reduction team.

[stark axle]

you play since over 2 years now. wheres your osh team?

[stark axle]

https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1717388390806404273
adventure 13, 100% pure res, with the osh team
yea, this is juiced up, but it also works at 900k in 13

54k attack isnt that much, yea...
but the speedup and martha help a lot, so it works.

how strong is your main team?
maybe just choose a path that suits u

[hazy mural]

thats what i do

i just start my own 13s and take a path i can do relatively comfortably

[versed trench]

i do adv 12 with @stark axle team with no isaac till now so when should i try adv 13 ?

[frozen cargo]

I like the adventure 12 buff right now. Pet skill power, no need to worry about silence, charm or stun... Just bring Khorus.

[stark axle]

at 700k u should be doing 13s most of the time

[stark axle]

i started doing them with good buffs around that power.

problem for u is, krista is quite useless in that team. replace her with isaac and ur good

luckily shes your weakest (or at least looks the weakest)

so maybe get isaac up and start doing 13s when he surpasses krista in power

another great option would be heidi, could also replace krista. there the same applys. start working on heidi asap and start doing 13s once heidi surpasses krista

thing is, u need isaac either way. but heidi is also great overall and the team should be doing a bit better in pvp with heidi instead of isaac

so depends on your long term focus

[untold raptor]

Hi @everyone

help me please

I have a problem with the Seymour boss in the adventure 15 campaign, what is the best squad you recommend, I will show you which characters I have the best

[stark axle]

its #campaign

[untold raptor]

ok

[stark axle]

but, best team is the old osh team

[untold raptor]

sorry

[stark axle]

isaac-jhu-neb-seb-martha

[untold raptor]

come compain

[untold raptor]

ok

[terse flame]

i started AD13 at 450K with good buffs....but sometimes lose to marksman teams or Lilith teams....

[versed trench]

thanks for the advice friends i will try it when I am a little higher in power

[versed trench]

how about Morrigan she gives armor penetration buff too, my server is filled with Rufus

[terse flame]

i just use morrigan

[versed trench]

with that team ?

[terse flame]

i run twins....so on ur team, i replace Iris with lars and seb with morrigan if i see rufus

[versed trench]

that great for attacking but won’t work for me as i have no other team to defend if i go all in twins

[terse flame]

on defense Aurora-Celeste teams r not going to do well against any isaac teams. So u just have to assume u will lose pts. But i did use Aurora-seb-celeste-iris, with 5th hero Jhu or Heidi at times for defense, hoping less people attack me on arena

[versed trench]

thanks for your insight desmo

[terse flame]

lol np

[terse flame]

now i just swap to amira teams on defense....aurora-celeste combo is just too easy for anyone

[versed trench]

that is exactly what I have in mind if I have money

[terse flame]

take ur time. mine is low spending account also

[versed trench]

it is good that it is easier than it used to be in past to upgrade heroes

[terse flame]

yeah....if u can get GoDs.....

but some items r just very annoying to make

i have at least 4 heroes all waiting for Creator of Worlds

[versed trench]

by the way is there any counter to the amira hiedi Rufus team they are dominating my server

[versed trench]

not in red 2 chest huh that lame

[terse flame]

there r many.....but not with twins lol

Jhu teams work well against it

[versed trench]

maybe dead heroes team will work

[terse flame]

this team is not hard to make....4 of the 5 in osh team, and a weak Jorgen will work

i gave up using twins to beat amira teams....either use Jhu, or another amira team to beat it

[versed trench]

thanks this team cost us the citadel today

we were going to be first but now we are third

[terse flame]

if they dont use rufus, like Julius instead, then twins still work

this is wat i used today. But against Julius not Rufus or Asta

[versed trench]

that was the team

[terse flame]

hum they had dante? then twins might work

[versed trench]

then charged dante secured the second time

Surprisingly we don’t have strong twins teams in my guild

which is not the case with any gold guild in server

[terse flame]

the popular amira tank team might work against it also

[terse flame]

i didnt use any flag....but i did current vs. max

twins work too

[versed trench]

i tried jhu work like magic

[terse flame]

there r many ways to beat Amira teams...also depends on what else is on the team

if that guy used Neb instead of Dante, then twins wont work. But good that he didnt

[versed trench]

that damn Isaac is really cheating

he was the first reason for me to leave the game for a long time

[terse flame]

na u just work around it

osh Isaac team works on amira team too....sometimes

[versed trench]

the problem is there will not be a meta for long time when i reach high in power some new hero will show up that perfectly counters the meta

that why i don’t want to build meta as it all temporary

[terse flame]

well hopefully by that time you will have more heroes leveled up to pivot

[versed trench]

i will outsmart them by using dark star and chabba

[hazy mural]

I struggle vs Amira neb teams tbh

Ppl usually pair with Heidi also to counter dante

[frozen cargo]

Heidi is a nasty boy. Nebula and Amira can crush. Kind of makes you want to join the Amira Armada.

[ivory plank]

kayla is magic?!

[stark axle]

no

[ivory plank]

she´s the only one dealed damage.

And I ran out of time

[stark axle]

show the video

i guess you missed some buff or something

[ivory plank]

https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1717522993720025791

[stark axle]

https://prnt.sc/mgnVGGNenpca

[ivory plank]

How can Kayla make damage when she Ginger is immun to everything?

[stark axle]

there, you missed a 140% resistance buff

[stark axle]

kayla damages herself which is also displayed as 'damage dealt'

[ivory plank]

💀

alr thanks

[stark axle]

ur welcome.
make sure to remove towers first

[stark axle]

on a side note, same applys to jhu

[ivory plank]

done but out of energy... I hope my guildmates are strong enough

[stark axle]

adventures are a team efford, never try to do it on your own

stick to the routes and trust your guildmates to do the same

if u cant trust them, look for a better guild.

if u cant trust anyone, this is the wrong game for you - or it gets REALLY expensive to get anywhere in terms of progress

[ivory plank]

I´m guildmaster 😂😅

[stark axle]

then kick people who dont stick to the routes even if told where to find them and how to use them

allways give them a chance, but if they wont listen, replace them

[ivory plank]

👍

[rocky blade]

In this fight (adv 11 boss) of another player of my guild, Jhu is quite high power at 109k, but still got stunned by boss orion, and so lost !
https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1717553406221601059

[frozen cargo]

Happens. Orion has an ability that stuns.

[stark axle]

what did u expect when not using seb?

[frozen cargo]

Or at least Khorus.

[stark axle]

jhu can die no matter which control effect affects him. khorus does not help against orions 2nd skill (slow down)

and i think that was the case here. it does not show the stun- sign (the kinda vortex one)

also why use dante if u could just use isaac...

also makes no sense (even if isaac is only half the power, hes better here)

assuming a 140k dante.... as 70k isaac is easily enough for 13-11

maybe even lower

[rose sequoia]

Ofc you have to use Seb

And btw 109k is not "quite high power"

[rose sequoia]

70k Isaac I don't think so

But maybe for normal a11

[near radish]

about 100k with careful manual play for 13-11

[rocky blade]

That was in the meaning of a team for adventure 11.
I beat easily the Orion in adventure 11 with heros that are about 80k power.

[rose sequoia]

Oh yeah well a11 is easy

[stark axle]

11 can be done even if the strongest hero is around 70k and the rest below 60k

or total power around 320-380k, depending on how well u skilled

[versed trench]

@stark axle i beat adv 13 today 🥳

[rose sequoia]

Pog

[versed trench]

from now on i am a pro 🙂

[versed trench]

nitro emotes look great Ninja thanks

[frozen cargo]

Best thing is, once you beat 13, you can just raid any adventure you want without actually playing them

[near radish]

stop spreading lies

[frozen cargo]

Not a lie. My favorite part.

[frozen cargo]

I am actually kind of surprised that this debuff stays on the boss for the entirety of the fight.

[frozen cargo]

Once you reach adventures, you encounter these corrupted heroes. Cleaver, Ginger, Orion, Galahad and Heidi. You cannot get these skins.

[mighty glade]

where tf is heidi @frozen cargo ?

[frozen cargo]

He's hiding.

[mighty glade]

lmao nice

[mortal imp]

so it heidi in #13?

[near radish]

no... it was just trolling

[mighty glade]

all the bosses are in 13 :D

#13 is basically the Faceless of adventures ;-)

[mortal imp]

wait, what?

how does that work?

[near radish]

adv13 uses modified maps from adventures 9, 10, 11 and 12... choden randomly every day

[mighty glade]

ye

[mortal imp]

ooh.

I just got my first purple pet!

[stark axle]

nice progress, congrats 😄
now make it 5 violets🚀 (it will become faster as u progress as ur able to do higher levels of adventures 😉 )

[frozen cargo]

Oh... I thought this was General... Misclick... Carry on

[gusty lichen]

have an elmer tank on this one...my isaac dies before he can silece their team ...jhu misses elmer...and as he is about to attack the back...phobos paralyzes/kills jhu

isaac dies at 1:50. before a martha could heal... i could try oliver on isaac and sub out polaris for aiden but idk...also thought about swapping isaaac/polaris for arachne/aiden but not sure if they are strong enough. this is adventure 13

[whole marsh]

Welcome pro 🙂

[near radish]

polaris in a physical damage team... a bit strange move

i would either try osh team with isaac replaced by astaroth or something like asta/celeste/heidi/nebula with arachne or polaris

in first case you need to have a bit of luck for phobos to target sebastian

[rose sequoia]

Honestly just go Jhu tank and use Heidi

[stark axle]

why would u even use isaac here?
kai and phobos clearly arent the problem.

[near radish]

they look like one becasue of mage skill speed buff

mage for kai, mage and control for phobos

[rose sequoia]

Who cares

[near radish]

quite annoying combo with 250% hp buff

[rose sequoia]

Jhu tank ftw

[versed trench]

https://tenor.com/view/mdr-gif-18285088358737753438

[wise berry]

who do you think the problem is then?

[hazy mural]

I find the 250 HP battles the hardest tbh

[long olive]

neu frame

[stark axle]

his isaac dies in like 8 seconds, so thats due to basic attacks of elmir/daredevil mostly i guess

[stark axle]

yea, especally with corvus

[gleaming sage]

killed that node today with dante plus osh team on one move

[gusty lichen]

when i face front line dodge (aurora) or buffed enemy (chabba) i use her. they cant dodge nor give dodge buff to team and chabba cant eat your tank. Then jhu works back to front so he gets full damage on 4 of 5 enemies by that time the fight is won even if it takes a bit longer to get the frozen person killed.

[stark axle]

hows your aidan?

[stark axle]

even small aidan could help here...
use the next artefact event to get his 2nd artefact up a bit, health is important for the shared health pool he gives

for stars there are no quests so if u have the ressources, best do it today

to like 4 stars for now

beyond that is quite expensive

[gusty lichen]

jhu tank got em. thank you. I tried isc/aiden too but my aiden too weak.

[frozen cargo]

Priority? Typically, don't. It is very circumstantial, you would want enough hp to survive a one shot, but not enough to slow hour ult. I still think Physical attack and armor penetration are more important than crit or other stats ... But I rarely use Jhu as tank.too easily stunned on front line.

[near radish]

need low hp to speed up his ult but low hp = easy stun from every hit exceeding 20% max hp he recieves

[gusty lichen]

jhu tank...high strength (to avoid crits) and high health (forgo the 20pct stun) in either case should only be used on offense and not defense and only when the other team doesnt have any heros that can stun. bring seb with him. use him primarily when there is a back row threat on the other team

when i want a jhu tank but don't want him to die before he ults...sometimes will put a weak tank in front of him...weak tank dies quickly so jhu will ult before enemy DD...then its game over most of the time....avoid dodge teams like aurora and dante

[frozen cargo]

Jhu is not a good defensive hero. Early game, he does well, but later game, he is countered fairly easily. Still strong on offense and vs boss types.

[stark axle]

whenever u get mixed results when asking different people, take it slow lol.
some say do health, some say dont. both make valid points. so just take it slow and learn while ur doing it

[frozen cargo]

Technically, Amira doesn't counter Jhu. Amira's ability to block crit Only works on Agility heroes. And jhu doesn't buff any other heroes so the strength hero debuff won't impact Jhu at all either.

[marsh bay]

only xp

[marsh bay]

hi

[frozen cargo]

I should amend though, jhu does buff crit with his weapon artifact, any agility heroes on your team will gain crit from this and therefore be impacted by Amira.

[gusty lichen]

so lets say seb gets crit from jhu...would a seb crit attack be cancelled entirely or would it just do normal damage

[brave coral]

Zero damage. The Word that appears if a blind hero attacks will be there as well.

[frozen cargo]

When buffed by Amira, agility heroes who possess the critical hit chance attribute gain ridiculously high critical hit chance, almost guaranteeing a critical. However, a critical hit from an agility hero will miss the target. When not buffed by Amira, the critical hits act normally. Agility heroes without critical strike chance attributes don't receive the Amira buff bonus critical hit chance. Heroes such as K'arkh and Keira. These heroes will strike normally.

Jhu, Yasmine, Lara Croft and Sebastian have arrifact weapons that give critical strike chance to your heroes.

[mortal imp]

Is that why my keira always beats amira so well?

Amira is really amazing ngl.

[stark axle]

another thing that comes in handy there is that amira has an 8- second countdown in her ult. the more damage you deal against the opponents team in that period, the less damage amira does against you.
keira hits all opposing heros at once, so u get a good damage out constantly

that has allways been a weakness of keira generally, bc she used to (and still does) charge the opposig heros energy up with quite low, but constant damage. but here it helps

[gusty lichen]

so if just using Morrigan vs enemy Rufus do I need to level any of her skills? or does a cheap morrigan at violet level do the trick

84k health

[wise berry]

7 seconds I thought

[wise berry]

max the violet skill

guaranteed to prevent resurrect then, otherwise you're playing with chance

[gusty lichen]

oh ic its one of those..."level" skills. thanks!

[wise berry]

np

[near radish]

never seen any difference depnding on level

only thing she needs to counter rufus resurrection is violet skill unlocked and being alive long enough for him to die

[wise berry]

looks like one that you gotta level up the skill

[near radish]

maybe it affects chances to summon skeleton, but doesn't matter for preventing resurrection

[wise berry]

I guess I'll have to try at some point then

ok, seems like that works then

[wise berry]

turns out you don't have to, apparently to spawn a skeleton the skill needs to be upgraded, but not to prevent resurrect

[gusty lichen]

Oh thanks! Just saved me some GOLD!! much love

[brave coral]

I have not levelled any skill and I can confirm that she works.

[stark axle]

"the chance to summon a skeleton from a fallen enemy is lowered if the targets level is above x"
the main thing, sttoping resurrection isnt mentioned there and as such unaffected by the skill level.

[frozen cargo]

You know when you begin an adventure for a specific reason then completely forget that you did that and complete it without bothering to do the one thing you came there to do?

[near radish]

you are not alone

[iron nest]

Raid to do season quests is safer

[frozen cargo]

It is, but can't raid after guild reset time, forced to do a live adventure. I can raid tomorrow.

[near radish]

it is why you never close adventure when you finish it

so you can close it after guild reset and get free raid ability for next day

[dry sapphire]

adventure 13 is always fun fighting 300% energy gain and 100% dmg increase + 250 max hp xD aurora is on top and yes there was no tank buff at all

https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1718542237068517859

[frozen cargo]

I enjoy using Aurora. She was not in my top 5 tanks for the longest time. But I wouldn't give her up now.

[dry sapphire]

she 1 of the top 5 most offensive heroes aka spammers i love her 🤣

[dry sapphire]

I must say it was a big risk bc with the 250% hp boost issac was immune to magic dmg and i relied on iris bc alvanor was alife still till seb ulted and ish knocked out alvanor 🙂

[gleaming ruin]

There is one fight in the Great Storm event with the Astrild dragon as opponent. If you use Aurora as a tank there with Cain as pet, she will bomb her way through the opponent. I think she ults 20x within 3 seconds.

[wise berry]

😂

[gleaming sage]

u r not alone

[terse flame]

raid adventure

[stark axle]

with the guild quests u can allway get a second portal charge per day and use it to raid

[wheat hare]

somethin ain't right

[wise berry]

😂

[near radish]

2 ppl.. everybody got some random routes...
though it is still salvageable for 4 chests if this one glitched in top left corner is cleared

and even if not cleared, it is doable with strong enough player

[stark axle]

the goal should be that the second kills the boss in 12

[stark axle]

this is how it could look after 2 players. and we didnt even optimize for max positions, but for speed instead

8 positions left for player 3

[frozen cargo]

That seems inefficient. Y'all are all over the place.

[near radish]

it is speed - first player uses all moves, second player uses all moves - 3 chests clear... last just does some cleanups - no waiting at all

[frozen cargo]

But you end up in weird places. It seems inefficient.

You can get the job done without ending up in weird places.

[near radish]

cannot see anything weird - left goes from bottom to top, middle clears boss and som nodes on right after

[stark axle]

i value speed and i value 4 boxes. i dont care about how it looks

bonus points if last player has it easy and everyone has room for errors

[terse flame]

I usually kill 2 extra nodes using 2 players

But quite similar

[stark axle]

yea, works perfectly if u play multiple accounts so that u dont need to wait

[near radish]

1 not 2

7 vs 8 left...

[stark axle]

we left 9 (one on the left)

and they are further apart - but that does not matter as long as its only one

[terse flame]

he has 9 left

No. 11 is not attacked for him

[torpid stream]

hi, one player always joins my adventure. And he doesnt do anything (ever for few days) till I leave adventure. I can create private adventures, but they are not available for other members e.g. on the beginning of next day. Is there any solution for such situation?

[near radish]

only solution is private adventure or kicking such player from a guild

in private adventure you can click on + sign in top left to invite players

[torpid stream]

yes, I click it, but I cannot invite players who are in the adventures. So if they come back, finish their adventures, they dont see my adventure till I invite them. anyway thanks for the answer.

I think developers should make other option than private adventure

[near radish]

most guilds just kicks such players

[versed trench]

what is the route here bro

[idle egret]

nope you should join a better guild...

[frozen cargo]

What did you do to deserve this behavior? Why are they torturing you? Have you tried skipping a day and seeing if they follow you?

[torpid stream]

it is just one person. and he plays this way. he joins an adventure when there are 2 people, and come back after a few days. Then he finishes it. He never spoke and he doesnt answer when asked 🙂

[frozen cargo]

Does this to others?

[torpid stream]

yes

[frozen cargo]

Then petition the guild master to kick him to the curb. It is behavior unbecoming of a good guild.

[versed trench]

if it is not like this it is not interesting

[stark axle]

do 13-10 if ur bored

😉

[versed trench]

the only one i avoid

the problem is my guildmate will probably fail once

[frozen cargo]

I usually skip the one by the buff alter and take out 15 and 23 instead.

[versed trench]

@stark axle bro does both physical and magical buff help iris attacks

[stark axle]

its damage buffs, so no

or what do u mean

the buffs allways do exactly what is written, there are no known bugs with them

so just read the ingame description and your question is answered, as im not sure what u want to know.

[wise berry]

physical damage (not attack) buffs iris, and magic attack (but not damage) also buffs iris

*technically physical attack helps her basic attacks, but I don't know anyone who uses Iris for her basic attacks

[versed trench]

so only magic needed

[wise berry]

you don't need any buffs, but magic attack is probably the best buff for iris

[versed trench]

ok thanks

[wheat hare]

Oh, I'm about to have a GREAT time

https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1719008294868197708
https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1719008238541089313
https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1719007714243068585
https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1719007660914521312

[chilly crane]

greenlegoninja has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[wheat hare]

oi, mate

[frozen cargo]

Why not just bring Khorus?

[rocky blade]

Just won 4 chests for the first time in adventure 12 ! 😄
But there was this strange fight against where I used Orion by mistake against his counter Satori. I won against all expectations since at 1'43'' Satori takes a lot of damage just a little after using his ult, I can't really understand where this damage comes from. Is that healing denied by Celeste ?
https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1718917815716756074

[near radish]

there is no any big dmg...

[near radish]

but hero who really kills him is a combo aurora+axel+satori

this is precise moment when everything happened with some crucial parts of killer combo marked:

1 - not sure what are levels of your artifacts but with 2 MP buffs from orion enemies have most, if not all, magic defense removed
2 - axel's ult just cast has still full capacity when orion takes hit from satori and redirects big part of it to aurora = charges her violet skill couple times in quick succession
3 - reflected dmg plus aurora's ult... boom

[rocky blade]

Since it's a replay, you can check the artifact level by hovering over it. It's 23k MP, indeed without a MD artifact active they will take full damage. And the MD of Maya might protect my team a bit.
This moment is indeed what I was interested in, he takes 3 times 43910 damage, plus then 20580.
But he already took 43910 damage at 50 and 47 seconds.
So it's quite clearly Rainbow halo activated 3 times in very quick succession, when sending a lot of magic damage to Aurora you get it back strongly.
I still don't know where the 20580 is from, Aurora white skill damage appears a bit later at 28260
I get it now, tank Satori against Aurora is something that fails very badly.

[near radish]

especially when you remember satori deals magic dmg with his basic attack...

[gloomy snow]

yo which ones of yall gained a brazillion skin stones and ascencion crystals from the new event bugs
can send some back to a homie in need?

[brave coral]

No Way. I want to have that too

[ashen ferry]

maybe nexters will roll them back, and i really hope they do

[vocal plume]

i agree this is obscene

[brave coral]

I dont know. Is that enough to max every skin?

[hazy mural]

Be insane if they didnt

[rose sequoia]

What were the bugs?

Like how did it happen

And why don't you spend it just for fun

[near radish]

bug was that some players got billions of points for nothing

[frozen cargo]

Yes, this can happen. The person you attacked was defeated before you attacked them but after you found them. This happens occasionally.

[rocky blade]

Guys please, try to keep this channel at least somewhat related to adventures

[wise berry]

satori is not effective against aurora because she reflects most of the damage back at the enemy heroes near her, and if she has her final ascension skill then it's even worse

[cursive ember]

today adv-13 is map 9

[gloomy snow]

wtf a cow

[frozen cargo]

Child of War. An orphan or child who has experienced extensive trauma caused by large scale and extended period of conflict.

[gloomy snow]

wtf a cow

[versed trench]

did they roll it back ?

[still mirage]

If she doesn’t respond it means no 💀

[acoustic hornet]

who is chotoi top nhat? corrupted cleaver?
https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1720589226349918168

[frozen cargo]

That is kind of funny. Maybe it is a translation of your name into english.

[acoustic hornet]

hahaha, right. really strange, didnt happen before

[acoustic hornet]

hahaha

[frozen cargo]

Nice. Now, we just need to figure out who Choti is.

[tranquil lark]

Привет, какой пачкой лучше победить?

[vague valley]

Пожалуйста, выберите свой флаг #✍get-roles

[rocky blade]

At 8 seconds, I really wondered if it wouldn't time out rather than win.

Did anyone try to use one man lian with a strong mara for adventure fights ?
Is it a workable strategy ? Maybe when there's a control bonus ?

[near radish]

you need very powerful lian and still can fail miserably because of daily or static buffs

lian solo or paired with baby dorian work pretty well in some fights but certain daily buffs or static +hp buffs for example can give enemies enough advantage to time out

[frozen cargo]

Lian hits hard and fast when she is alone and the other team is charmed. Not quite the damage output of Dante or Aurora, but pretty good.

[iron nest]

Lian is average at everything

[frozen cargo]

I don't know if I would call her average. I feel like her magic damage is fairly low and pure damage is sub optimal. Only when Lian is the only one in the action economy, does her pure damage really shine. Pairing her with Fafnir is nice for her survivability, dorian too, but they cause the action economy to be diluted. Solo Lian just spams her abilities, cooldown be damned.

[rose sequoia]

Lian Faf Albus with occasional baby Dorian can work in advs

But be careful of high dmg basic attacks

[vast moat]

Hi guys, there is something I don't understand in my available portal uploads. All week I have been getting two and spending one, but my accumulated counter does not exceed three. He says it's maxed out.

but I see other companions who have 9 or 10 accumulated, and available to spend per raid.

I am doing something wrong?

[near radish]

yes

in general you get 1 charge daily until you reach their cap which is 3

if you have 3 accumulated - free daily regen stops, just like eneryg after reaching cap

[dusky saffron]

They hold them in mailbox.

[near radish]

since they introduced guild prestige quests you can gt 1 charge daily from them, there are also some charges from gifts and certain quests

all charges obtained from other sources can be added indefinitely above a cap, though it will prevent getting this 1 free daily charge

guild prestige ones go to mail not if not collected but they have 3d timer - you need to claim them before they expire

but charges from other sources have no such timer

so they either stacked them and discarded chance for free daily charges or just collected several from mailbox/quest

[vast moat]

OMG,I already said that something was not working correctly. It's downright convoluted. Thank you very much for the aclarations .

[whole marsh]

oh you guys in the same guild

@acoustic dagger ping for sin

[whole marsh]

...

[acoustic dagger]

i had to travel to my grandparents who live in a deadzone and do some landscaping for then sorry

[rocky blade]

Don't enter an adventure when it's predictable something like this will happen.
Or enter adventure 11 and do your path completely (properly played with the first player doing the middle path, nobody has to wait for anyone else before playing)

[rocky blade]

They can do only one before being charmed, right ?
Baby Dorian better be really baby and killed asap or he'll be annoying.

[rose sequoia]

Yeah

[acoustic dagger]

wouldnt have been a complete problem but when i entered a buff was blocking my path

[stark axle]

Orion Totem