adventures

[brave coral]

That is great. I would still recommend to use him, even if there is physical protection. Due to his dodge artifact, Iris has the chance to dodge as well.

[heady sluice]

I haven't touch most of them except for Iris. I'm prepping her for Dante team. It so happens that I was forced to do the left side of adv 12. So, that's why I am trying to figuring out how to beat those 3 team's with physical damage decrease.

[brave coral]

Step by Step. When Iris uses her first ability you can kill the enemies one by one.

Dante gains energy faster due to Cain. Wait until you can use Iris and than you can use both together and Dante will do massive pure damage.

[heady sluice]

Actually, I am planning to use this team. But, I am not sure if Seb will be sufficient. I think need 500k+ team to beat those teams

[heady sluice]

That's why I plan to add Seb because of pure damage. But, I am not sure.

[brave coral]

Guess it will work against the second and third team.

[brave coral]

Your Dante will do nearly no damage that can be changed to crit and supported by Seb. But it is smart to use him anyway against 2 and 3.

[heady sluice]

3rd team, I think wont be much problem for Dante team. They don;t have 90% physical damage decrease

[brave coral]

Just team 1. If Dorian and Iris do not dodge and Chabba "eats" Dante, your team could break fast.

[heady sluice]

I used Dante team from start until those team with decrease physical damage.

[brave coral]

Understand you 😉 I have this team too, just with Orion and Neb. It works against this teams, because Orion and Iris are unkillable for this heroes if they start working in the backline.

[heady sluice]

I have nebula. Maybe, I'll try with her instead of Seb. Is there a way to test the team in a adventure setting? I check in combat training. I think, it's not possible

[frozen cargo]

You can only test vs current power or max power. No way to adjust for adventure strength.

Max testing might be helpful, but max testing includes ascension which can seriously shift the outcome.

[heady sluice]

Thanks for the feedback. I tried, for 2 different teams. Outcome are different.

Is it either I give up and accept at my current heroes state, I won't complete adv 12 or still look for other solutions.

[somber flume]

do you have a developed albus? That might be a better damage source than a weak celeste. Celeste doesnt really perform as a magic damage dealer until much stronger (80k+). Weak celeste usually is only healer/artifact buff for magic team.

[frozen cargo]

Probably too late. What is the team, which heroes do you have and what are the daily buffs and tower buff if applicable?

[heady sluice]

Yes, I have.

[frozen cargo]

The first team also have 95% damage reduction? Or was that buff removedm

[frozen cargo]

Tough nuts. I usually use Aurora, Nebula, mage team setups against that.

[somber flume]

for this probably i'd take albus team pet and isaac over celeste. Silencing them and hope the dragon can kill one by one

[heady sluice]

No more tower buffs, as my guildmates cleared all. Left side is what remains because of me 😫

[frozen cargo]

Yeah, 12 is when you need to get a mage team for those pesky physical defense fights. Heidi is pretty useful.

Having Arachne helps a lot, but she sits in front of Donte.

[heady sluice]

These are the teams are the ones I need to beat.

This is the last one.

[heady sluice]

This is my Nebula, is she viable?

[somber flume]

you can probs do this next time and hope the boss route go clean up your #25 and #32 😂

[heady sluice]

This is my Isaac

[somber flume]

should probs work in 1 or 2 attacks since enemy has no healer so albus damage will be permanent

and dante would still do some damage even through the 90% res

[heady sluice]

I'll put that on mind & note this. I'm sure my guildmates can clear those. They are monsters....hehehe!!! I think I belong weakest in my guild. I'm just so lucky I was allowed to join.

[frozen cargo]

Nebula is good. Pair with Aurora for a decent stomping of physical resist teams. Orion, Heidi, Lian are my mages that I can use.

[heady sluice]

Thanks guys for the inputs. I'll check if it can be done.

[frozen cargo]

Iris is good, but she uses a lot of physical damage and if they resist physical damage, iris soul also resists physical damage so you can screw yourself with using iris vs physical resist teams.

[heady sluice]

Ah ok. I thought it will be effective since one of my guildmates is using her in this adventure. But, definitely just because his Iris is stronger.

[near radish]

she is but works much better with any magic damage dealer

[frozen cargo]

Heidi and Iris can do a lot together.

[near radish]

yes - but using other skills - iris' ult loses it's efficiency paired with pure

still doubles dmg from heidi's aoe as it hits both - soul and original target

[frozen cargo]

Does pure not work with iris?

[near radish]

iris ult just converts any dmg into pure alowing it to bypass defense stats

pure dmg does it anyways so there is no any difference if it hits soul or original target

in case of aoe there is some bonus because it can hit 2 targets instead of just one so effectively doubles dmg

but all single target attacks works without any bonus

[somber flume]

big iris' 4th skill still do a decent chunk, especially if during albus charge

but yea you generally want an extra non-physical damage dealer on these nodes

[heady sluice]

Now, I'm thinking what team from my heroes can I make to complete this.

I'm very much happy for all the inputs you guys are giving... Thanks a lot!

[stark axle]

this is what i do per usual.

this is the team i use over 95% of the time (even against 100% res, i usually use this one, no matter which resistance it is)

the good things about this route:

1. u dont have to wait for anyone
2. if u manage to go without a failed attack, your guildmates get a lot of room for errors
3. if u cant go without fail, u can still adapt on the way to make it easy for the others

and then go like this

[heady sluice]

Thanks for all the inputs, bro. I'll make my team strong. It will be a long road but eventually will get there...

I have most of those heroes upgraded. Aurora is the only one I haven't touch yet.

[stark axle]

its just an example.. it works with others as well 🙂
most teams work in adventures in the long run bc adventures never use max teams (not even in 13 and its not even close)

no pets, no ascension, no red arefacts... and also rarely any team synergy

[somber flume]

i probs need 3-4 more months until comfortable in 13. Now i still need really good buff

[terse flame]

I only use 2 teams. Twins for mage route and Dante tank team for physical route. All fight skipped

[topaz tiger]

[topaz tiger]

my best hw-adventures fight 😸 , 13-10, Squad 17 200% MA&PA buff - https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1706874307803640670

[frozen cargo]

Mobile?

[vocal plume]

I thought mobile didn't have pets?

[frozen cargo]

He said "adventure"

I don't know, maybe it is just Adventure 10 Ginger... I have never had that many dodge buffs up at once, closest I ever had was magic attack buffs during campaign.

[fleet iris]

Does anyone can view this replay without crashing your PC
Fast forward to time 1:25
https://www.hero-wars.com/?replay_id=1707025681750969188

[lone heath]

Anyone else getting a bunch of battle processing errors? Was trying to fight the adv 12 boss and it gave me error twice.

[frozen cargo]

That is a bug that happens when your third party software is not compatible with the current game update. Wait a few days and not should catch up.

[lone heath]

I'm not using any third party software. It looked to be a bug with Julius. 300% phys atk buff + 50% cooldown buff on tanks, over a 2 minute battle, with Julius, Aiden, and Oliver all providing shields, I think was causing Julius's physical attack numbers to get too big for it to handle. It was repeatable four times with the same team, but when I swapped out Oliver for Albus, the battle was able to proceed as normal.

A couple of times it actually caused Julius to keel over dead all of a sudden in the last ten seconds of battle, despite the shields still being up and virtually unbreakable by the boss.

[frozen cargo]

Intriguing.

My Julius is too low to play with that setup

[fleet iris]

aurora vs peppy caused the battle to stop midway here

too many dps in 1 second

[frozen cargo]

That is interesting. Reflecting magic damage back being immune, healing from vampirism but being blocked by celeste.

[lone heath]

Mine is not maxed, but it's pretty close (159k power at the moment. Just one more tier of ascension, the crit rune, and his artifact weapon to go)

[thick gale]

I watched your fight and my browser crashed at 1:21 😱 That's really sick 😁

[grizzled perch]

which map is used for adventure 13 today please? I can't check it as I'm still in yesterday's adventure 😅

[stark axle]

its 13-10 again

im currently in a guild where im the only one strong enough for that so back to 12 😦

[grizzled perch]

allright thank you 🙂

[cobalt magnet]

first time i got 9 summoning eggs in my adv 4, but that is not the rarest cases in Hero Wars, but for me only.

[gusty lichen]

why you do me dirty like this

[rose sequoia]

Isaac easy

Will immediately silence Cel/Amira/Lian bc Cel will feed him

[gusty lichen]

yeah s/b fine...just nvr seen the entire team with buffs before..lol

haha over at 1:36

this however, same adventure, was drawn out and had me worried (jhu tank) https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1707450927340082771

[topaz tiger]

which map in 13 today, please?

[stark axle]

13-11

[dry sapphire]

100% resist

no issac

🤣

i thought galahad and tank dmg buff was tough till i saw this...

[near radish]

so wait until you see orion with nebula's and celeste's buffs...

[stark axle]

just use isaac then 😂

instead of jorgen and u have my adventure main

[near radish]

same adventure, just different node... orion on my side and he didn't even have a time to unleash full power: https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1707477527906502461

and now imagine energy gain or speed for mages instead of marksmen like today... happens sometimes

[dry sapphire]

did u see the 100% physical resist?

[near radish]

so?

isaac's utility still works

silence and magic dmg reduction

[stark axle]

yea i saw it and i do exactly that almost daily

using isaac against 100% physical res

last year i did like 500 adventure 13s and i lost like 3 fights in total

[dry sapphire]

calm down we are not fighting

ok ok jeeze

i was wondering source of dmg

didnt remember silence...

[hazy mural]

sometimes if i have a 100% phys resist i still have to use dante

because i dont have a real tank strong enough unless its an almost pure magic team

[frozen cargo]

That's kind of sad.

[stark axle]

if its stupid but it works, its not stupid 😂

[frozen cargo]

Some people can brute force through any obstacle

[hazy mural]

i managed to do 13-11 middle path yesterday, usually i would always do an adjusted top path that has zero phyical resist fights

but with my heidi finally at a reasonable level and iris r+2 i decided to chance it

and i did beat the physical resist battle but only just

[stark axle]

nice 🙂
soon u will be able to do it reliably and easy

thats the first step... soon after u will be able to do all routes on all maps 🙂

[hazy mural]

That's the goal

Heidi was a good hero choice to level up

Fits well with main team swaps and good for adv

[stark axle]

and also good for a secondary osh team 😄

low guild, so 2x 140, 3x 150 this week.
heidi-corvus with a PR

[frozen cargo]

I think I was getting more out of using Astaroth in my Corvus team. I might go back to it, stick Heidi in my Alvanor team.

Oh... Thought this was guild raid discussion... Carry on

[gusty lichen]

What is the easiest path for an lol osh team doing adv 12 with marksman, healer, pet buffs?

what team power is suggested

[rose sequoia]

Go to the right side

If you're not strong enough, get the left side player to get the buff squad on top

So you have extra attempts

The middle player path is the hardest bc you need multiple dmg types as all three res are present somewhere in the path

[gusty lichen]

I am 440k or 460k depending on pet i use

@rose sequoia also welcome back (you

( you've been quiet lately ;p )

[rose sequoia]

Uh idk if that's good enough

[rose sequoia]

Got muted and am busy so yeah

[gusty lichen]

yeah no was there... that dude was nuts

[gusty lichen]

only doing 12 cuz i like the buffs and no11 buffs suck. so just going to try it and if I mess it up witll exit the adventure... no one has to know...lmao

[rose sequoia]

Ok

Yeah try it but without a real Tank, Isaac might get destroyed

[somber flume]

i dont like the the solfors map on 12 because it is less flexible than other maps, and need more waiting to clear buffs too

other maps allow middle to cover other routes if there are mistakes or just lack of strength

[near radish]

lol osh team needs just about 60-70k astaroth as a sub for nodes with chabba or iris

though at 460k it is a bit to weak for phys resist nodes

plus a lot depends on other players - it is possible for weakest one to get 6 or 7 spare moves on side path or up to 8 on middle...

[stark axle]

then maybe try a route where u can finish without needing to wait for others

[gusty lichen]

agreed solfors falls short on this one. anyone have a link to a better map?

[gusty lichen]

yeah isaac got ripped up on a couple of fights but so far have only failed once. i think (with marksman buff) I can complete the right side on a regular basis

this is nice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbcbUypjRQ0

[rose sequoia]

I would take the solfors route and just decide whoever wants to can take the top squad

Additionally, look at the numbers. Each attacker has multiple moves left at the end

[gusty lichen]

yeah finally in adventure with a fudge factor

[somber flume]

the problem with solfor route is that there is no helping each other... so once you got a route you're stuck with it, and if someone fails it's down to 3 chest. Misty route actually allows 1 side to fail miserably but still get saved by a strong mid route to get 4 chest

also less or no waiting

which is very useful to help a weak member get used to adv12

[rose sequoia]

Can I see that one?

I need to use that in a13 lol my guildmates are stupid

[somber flume]

there are a few more routes on wiki actually

[rose sequoia]

Oh wiki

[frozen cargo]

Owari?

[gusty lichen]

martha a counter for Jhu? I think not!

[near radish]

in adventures, where she has much lower stats whe doesn't work well... but in pvp she can survive quite long, especially when she starts ulting

[gusty lichen]

4 chests first run thru for me 😄

your right i do need asto but isaac survived just long enough to get jhu to ult...then it was just chain ulting for the most part and with the marksman buff I was not to be denied 😄

[somber flume]

is that 12? cool. Yea yesterday marksman pa buff is great

[gusty lichen]

it was 12 🙂

Does the support buff help isaac at all since he doesnt have energy?

is 13 more difficult than 12? cuz with both support and control buffs...that helps my isaac, neb, seb, thea and martha, arach, polaris

[somber flume]

13 is harder ofc

enemy power are bumped from ~400-450k to 600-650k. 90% res becomes 100% res. And some random nodes on map has 100% damage buff

not really "random" but still

[gusty lichen]

does 13 have a route where you only needs a physical team?

[somber flume]

depends on 13 map

it can be any map from 9-12

[near radish]

support and control buffs in general help isaac, but as you wrote - he doesn't use energy, so anything affecting energy gains doesn't work on him

[gusty lichen]

oh? dynamic mapping?

[vocal plume]

random

with harder teams and heavier buffs than 12

[near radish]

and nodes moved around

plus more nodes have static resistance buffs

[somber flume]

today's 13 is map 12

[gusty lichen]

i had hard time on 10, moved to 11 and was easy on physical route (later tried the top and middle routes with little success) skipped to adv 12 with good buff and physical route (only lost once) and we got 4 chests first try. idk will try adv 13 why not...lol...guess more planning and thinking required on adv 13 tho

[somber flume]

right side is still mres only so in theory you can do it, but i dont think you have enough power to complete the route

[vocal plume]

You may do just as well on Adventure 13, map 12 doing the right side

[gusty lichen]

does 13 give you extra moves like adv 12?

[vocal plume]

Yes identical to each map

9-12

[gusty lichen]

nice

[somber flume]

the problem is the power of every node is like node 13 (last node on your route in 12)

[vocal plume]

13-10 is a beast for me

i hate it

[somber flume]

who likes 13-10 lol

[vocal plume]

😄

[gusty lichen]

ah yeah 10 sucks in general...before you create adv 13 do you know the map? or is it a surprise

[somber flume]

you know it by looking into the portal

[vocal plume]

You can peek at the Boss in the portal

so yes

[gusty lichen]

oh rad! never noticed that before

[somber flume]

i feel like 13-9 is easiest since there are less static buffs on the routes

[near radish]

but there are still ppl, after months of repeating same info every time, who start 13-10 and are heavily surprised nobody wants to join them

[somber flume]

each route only have 2x 100% res nodes

[near radish]

you can't compare anything to amount of spare moves on map 12

[somber flume]

and few nodes have dmg/health buff

map 12 has way to many dmg/health nodes

in the 13 version

[vocal plume]

I love 13-12

[near radish]

but 12 boss is easiest of all 4

[somber flume]

of the 3, yes

10 boss easiest but map sucks

9 and 11 boss are both pain

[near radish]

i don't think you can clear 13-10 boss with 400k team...

[vocal plume]

I don't mind Orion.... on 11 i think

[near radish]

9 - gala, 10 - ginger, 11 - orion and 12 - cleaver

[vocal plume]

Gala falls quick to Yas/Jhu/Seb

[near radish]

don't have yas.. and jhu alone is not so easy as seb just die on first ult

[vocal plume]

Yas also makes him waste ults facing the other direction keeping the team alive

[somber flume]

well all 4 dies quick to that combo... just that the amount of damage they deal back in the time they are alive is different. If your team can tank it then sure

[gusty lichen]

if using jhu just make sure to bring thea

[near radish]

dorian is more usefull

[vocal plume]

Against corrupted galahad I usually bring martha and asta

[somber flume]

yas kind of trivialize all 3 aside from orion, and isaac stops orion

[near radish]

and with jhu as only dd - martha + asta = loss

[gusty lichen]

dorian better than 55pct speed increase since jhu is under 30pct after first 20 sec

[near radish]

those 2 only serve as pretty neat health bank for boss

[somber flume]

using thea is under assumption that your team dies leaving jhu alone

[near radish]

from my experience - without dorian jhu gets killed fast... first stun prevents healing after ult, then with 1hp it is quick death on second stun

[somber flume]

in which case it's nice, but not enough dps to finish in 1 round

[near radish]

and with dorian - he doesn't stay below 30% for long

[gusty lichen]

yup casually forgot about the stun ...ha

[near radish]

it is enough... at least i do it this way - dorian, thea, jhu and something weak in front of jhu or far back to keep jhu in dorians aura

my dorian and thea are just violet and everything die on first ult without much healing for boss

[somber flume]

must be very big jhu then :/ I always find jhu being nice but he falls a little short at the finish line

[gusty lichen]

do all bosses have stun or just orion?

[near radish]

then jhu solo kills him

not sure about ginger, but all others have some stun in skills

plus any hit stronger than 20% hp always stuns

[gusty lichen]

I like even numbers

[gusty lichen]

ah yup

[gusty lichen]

either this is a big jhu or smol jhu depending on your server given that 190,401 is max

[somber flume]

that's around my jhu's power but yours probs a little better in relevant stats

[gusty lichen]

he's alot of fun...ngl...esp when you learn how to finese him...by either starting him as tank so he ults first...or putting him just behind a soft tank..giving him more time to ult before enemy DD...and yes I avoid all dantes 🙂 that's why I focus on GA...dante? skip and win the other two fights

[somber flume]

well considering you're on 250 and i'm on 146... i'd say you win big time 😅

[gusty lichen]

well hes my main DD and am probably the biggest jhu that isn't a whale

[dreamy ether]

I never had this happen before:

Game wans us to finish before the 3rd person even shows up. 🙂

[near radish]

just hit ESC or click this X in top right

btw - at high levels it is common to do the same after clearing with 4 chests and keep adventure active until next day

[frozen cargo]

This happens frequently if you do it right. Especially map 12.

[dreamy ether]

I usually have 3 people joining before we finish clearing it 🙂

[somber flume]

9 and 11 can also happen

because 10 is such a bad map

technically can also happen in 2-8, but if you're strong enough for 2-man clear in those adventures, probs better to move up one adv.

[near radish]

13-12, buffed boss with single attack - https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1707708284846411338:

[fleet iris]

This can happen too 🤣
https://youtu.be/rA8kjZ6Le04

[near radish]

finally found a way to add this little juice to jhu in 13-9 to get this last 1-2 points he is sometimes lacking:

[stark axle]

do u have a 70k yas?
then yas-jhu-dorian works as well, and super consistent (with cain team pet)

might even work on a lower yas if your cain is good, not sure whats the minimum is

[near radish]

my yas is about 30k...

[stark axle]

try yas instead of andvari and see how it goes

my yas also dies early, just getting some extra damage in the start

[near radish]

next time can try but i'm affraid she is to weak and will die to early

[stark axle]

next time i attack a 13-9 boss, i will share my replay with u 🙂

[hazy mural]

I just use dante jhu neb Seb Martha for 13-9

You can time Dante ultimate to interrupt Galahad ultimate

[near radish]

same goes for yas... but you need to have one of them first

[hazy mural]

I could probably even remove Martha tbh and just run jet or something

[stark axle]

i do yas-jhu-dorian with nothing else

[hazy mural]

My Yas is like 2k

[rose sequoia]

Why Andi?

Also why Albus over smth like Vex with tick dmg

[near radish]

still testing... and hero in front of jhu has to buy just few seconds for jhu to charge his first ult

has to be weak on purpose - to die on first gala's ult or a bit sooner and avoid big hp bank for him to vampiric

[proven birch]

Galahad on 13-9 has not been this tough before. I guess his rework makes a difference. I beat it but it was sloppy. Who should I swap out for Dorian next time?
https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1707918107424556781

[viral topaz]

Try Cain on Aurora i would say. You need to dodge Galahads attacks

[stark axle]

just dont use so many heros for galahad to heal himself on

so swap everything but jhu out for dorian and then add yasmine or some other boss killer and go with just those 3

[near radish]

or use some heroes who can buff jhu even when they are dead - like thea, mojo but will die on first ult and won't feed boss healing

[forest quest]

Help me with the best formation

[stark axle]

wrong channel, but that depends on the level your facing, so like that even if i want to help u i cant

[forest quest]

170l

[stark axle]

see ask for help, it has all

i dont remeber 170, havnt taken notes back then

so u will need exactly as long as i would need to find the pic u need.

[stark axle]

....

good luck 🙂

[rose sequoia]

Cain on Aurora, Vex on Jhu

[stark axle]

map 12 things 😂

[forest quest]

I encountered a problem at level 240

\

[near radish]

not a problem... just randomness of results

[forest quest]

Help me, I want to win

[near radish]

#💬general pinned messages - click on link in first one to get list of teams for all boss levels

[gusty lichen]

13-10 right now? i can't tell by looking at it...lol

[near radish]

just scroll for 9. 10. 11 and 12 - check pictures there and compare

[gusty lichen]

ok i think its 13-11 orion

[near radish]

10 is only one with green patch at bottom if remember properly

[rose sequoia]

Check the boss in the pic

a9 = Galabad
a10 = Ginger
a11 = Orion
a12 = Cleaver

[gusty lichen]

ty! yeah figured it out but oh man 13-11 was rough-1 chest only. there were several 100pct physical resist nodes and one of our guildies went the wrong way on his path to start us off....lol

think will stick to 13-9 now

[rose sequoia]

💀

a13-12 is easiest btw

Then prob a13-11 then a13-9

Never do a13-10, it sucks as bad as a10

[near radish]

a bit worse - a10 doesn't have 100% resist nodes

[rose sequoia]

Obv

[terse flame]

13-11 and 13-9 feels the same for me

[rose sequoia]

Yeah basically

[gusty lichen]

yeah its just that i dont have a magic team thats any good

[frozen cargo]

Aurora, Nebula, Heidi should do the trick in most cases.

[stark axle]

in my old guild i did 13-10 sometimes when i wanted a challenge 😉

[idle egret]

dont need a magic team... just either physical or pure... you can take any route when you have that

[rose sequoia]

Self-harm bruh

[stark axle]

we lost the 4th box like once in 10 tries... its just not boring

[rose sequoia]

For noobs it's quite difficult

I could prob do a10 but my guildmates idk

[stark axle]

yea, its much more a matter of skill than a matter of strength at that point

and also choosing the right heros to level and knowing how they work

[rose sequoia]

My guildmates are so stupid

They all have Galabad and Yas and Phobos and Dark Star and wtv

And NONE of them have Seb

[stark axle]

nice

💀

[rose sequoia]

They lose like seven times to Jorgen "oH nO wHaT hApPeNeD?!"

You lost you idiot

[stark axle]

best if someone attacks a control team on a control energy gain day without seb...

[rose sequoia]

Wahoo I love Arachne

[near radish]

today's 13-9 was aurora's day - 100% energy gain, 50% skill speed for tanks

[stark axle]

yea....
on my new account i dont have aurora anymore, so had some trouble with galahad once

[near radish]

arachne can deal with him usually... but on some nodes and combined with jet he can make some serious trouble

[frozen cargo]

How long has it been since we got extra portal charges?

[vocal plume]

coming tomorrow

[hazy mural]

I got 21 portal charges in the mail

😂

[frozen cargo]

Today? Or total?

I used several when I was pushing to hit v3 on one of my pets.

[acoustic dagger]

average guildy

[frozen cargo]

Phobos is pretty nice.

Tried using a max dodge Aurora vs Adventure 13 Ginger... It went poorly. She died in 2 seconds.

[hazy mural]

Need more dodge

Aurora Dante heidi

Elmir

[acoustic dagger]

🚫

[near radish]

13-12

[cloud rune]

PA-11 BOSS obliteration with an under 300k p-atk team (with 113 lvl Rufus and including the pet power!):

[candid prairie]

Rufus is mandatory. Try Satori...

[cloud rune]

I thought that fox is a bit lame 😄

[candid prairie]

Satori is a god, when used appropriately. Corrupted Orion is an appropriate opponent.

A video is worth a thousand words

[cloud rune]

Need to lvl The Fox up and skill it up 🙂 Here another vid I had Orion with 100% m-atk increase ^^ but I had a stronger team here.

[near radish]

strange, very strange...
cleared many 11... cleared even many 13-11... and all this without such mandatory hero...

rufus can be convenient but is not even close to being mandatory

[candid prairie]

I meant: mandatory for a single fight with such a team with less than 300k power.

[near radish]

still not mandatory... there are other options like satori combined with cornelius or isaac...

[frozen cargo]

Oh, it's the other Kiri...

[gusty lichen]

luv it when corny is buffed

[frozen cargo]

Crit hit? Magic attack doesn't increase his damage that much.

[gusty lichen]

three 200k hits...not crit...but he was spamming his ult faster than jhu could attack https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1709173595801540611

[frozen cargo]

Support energy?

Ah, mage energy and support magic attack. Nice. Yeah... Killing an enemy will certainly increase energy production and at the 100% rate, probably guaranteed a full bar allowing another rock to be tossed. Very fun.

[cloud rune]

Anyway: My FB account, on server 25, is a bit weaker than the one on the WEB , and I had this WIN today to 100% extra m-atk PA-11 BOSS, with an under 295k team power (pet included) 🤭

P.S. Kiri is mandatory 😛

[frozen cargo]

That doesn't seem like enough damage

[golden notch]

wow amira

[cloud rune]

The others made no damage ? Weird 😐 Epic anyway 😄

[golden notch]

Yeah amira deleted the enemy team in 7 seconds lol

[near radish]

was it physical resist node?

[terse flame]

dont use amira in that team tho. u want neb to boost Dante, but amira blocking neb. or take out dante and use mage team

[golden notch]

It was 100% phys resist node and I don’t own any tanks except for Dante lol

[golden notch]

Yep 👍

[frozen cargo]

Maybe Dante is a trap? Lure people in with Dante to crush them with Amira?

[golden notch]

I use him because he gives like 14k dodge and when he ults everyone tries to hit Amira, and she gets like a lot of energy from the dodges and she ults earlier than usual

[cerulean tide]

What would be my best team against the Level 11 Orion boss?

[near radish]

isaac, jhu, nebula or celeste, orion or heidi, martha

[terse flame]

Isaac Osh team

[near radish]

with all those mage and healer or support buffs replacing seb and neb with celeste and orion or heidi may profit... but yes - in general it is modified osh

[terse flame]

Wat I mean is, for me I just use Isaac Osh team.....normally 1 shot

[near radish]

depends a lot on sebastian's skills - if he can provide enough crits

[frozen cargo]

Back in the day, would use Rufus tank and Albus. Would somehow pull it off. Now tho... Just Osh and forget.

[near radish]

miraculous win on idiotic attack by hurrying and mistake - adv. 13-9, 100% magic damage resistance node - https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1709415188806336058:

[terse flame]

How?? 😂

Ah Albus....

[mighty nacelle]

What possibly team could beat this one?

[rose sequoia]

Isaac

That whole team is magic so Isaac counters it

More specifically, Isaac Dorian would work

Possibly Neb, Cel, or Seb for debuff protection (or a strong Khorus), but make sure Seb doesn't give Isaac Crit and make him die to Helios

[frozen cargo]

Isaac could probably solo it.

Mage damage might be a bit much, probably bring Jet, dorian, thea and fafnir... Just to be safe.

[terse flame]

dont overthink it. my twins still beat that location with ease so any will work

[storm citrus]

Isaac, Martha & Rufus are the key

[near radish]

isaac and rufus together? it is wasting of isaac's power

[terse flame]

yeah, rufus not needed here....Isaac will charge slower if they r teamed together. But i do use Rufus and Isaac together if opponent has Iris....Isaac dies too fast if first position

[drifting pasture]

If you have an Osh team just use Isaac and any good phys DP. Thea also makes a great addition to go against magic teams if you have her leveled up. Sebastian seems like a smart move to block all of Jorgen's control effects. If you have your own Jorgen leveled up, he is a great add there with the Control buff. Polaris would be excellent as well, assuming you have one of the Control heroes (Isaac or Thea, or someone like Arachne - she doesn't help Jorgen all that much because Jorgen's control effects aren't "official" control effects). Those buffs are not in your favor but they can't hurt you if they're silenced for the entire fight.

[drifting pasture]

I mean, yeah, if you have 20 strong heroes to choose from, you probably wouldn't use Isaac + Rufus. But I'm guessing this player has limited choices and just needs some options that might help

[near radish]

even in such case - i would use isaac solo... rufus kills isaac's effectiveness

[split quarry]

6 second fight

[drifting pasture]

Does he? All of those heroes still do Physical damage with their basic attacks. So Isaac will only charge up from special attacks, and those tend to not focus on the lead hero.

I mean, it's not a GREAT combination, but if you only have 10 or so heroes to choose from and Isaac and Rufus are two of them, they will both do well vs that team

[frozen cargo]

I have used isaac with rufus in certain situations. Testing is key. Good luck.

[rose sequoia]

Dante no dmg 🔥

[frozen cargo]

Not like Dante can be dodged by that team, but maybe they are 100% immune to physical and Dante only served as a barrier.

[rose sequoia]

I think so

[gusty lichen]

what power team does one need to kill boss in adv12?

[near radish]

depends on a team

i was using about 500k team in adv 13 for this boss

[frozen cargo]

A low dorian is usually enough... Which will bring down your overall team power.

[near radish]

about 70-80k celeste is more than enough to tank 13-12...

with mage atk buff she is enough to tank 13-12 with top eye buff active = +300% dmg if remember correctly

[rose sequoia]

Jhu + Dorian = win

Tick dmg is good tho

[gusty lichen]

just doing the blue path (mag res) and this triple arti team stopped me cold. they were buffed too. counted like 5 armors up at a time...not sure how to defeat...tried some pure with heidi but wasnt enough

adv12

[rose sequoia]

Jhu Neb Seb Iris Martha

[gusty lichen]

had everyone but seb ...still lost

[rose sequoia]

Why not Seb

Seb is where all your dmg comes from

Bro is goofing

[gusty lichen]

am tired ig

left him out to bring in heidi for his pure shrug

[rose sequoia]

Seb has more pure

[gusty lichen]

even so not sure it would have mattered ...each like 28k armor

[rose sequoia]

Np, just ult Neb at the right time to steals their energy

Iris if you needed pure

[frozen cargo]

Jhu tank? Vs Chabba?

[gusty lichen]

for 1 of the 3 tries..yes

is that bad? wanted to ult jhu quick so he could get some shots in before the armor artis came up

[frozen cargo]

Just thinking that is a bad idea.

Since Chabba eats the front hero, having Jhu there will put him out of commission where he can not gain energy for continued immunity.

[gusty lichen]

ah this is true... good point

[gusty lichen]

yeah dont have iris sadly

[rose sequoia]

She's available in ss chests

[gusty lichen]

true but had started building heidi first (before the ss chest being a thing) so I don't have resources for iris right now. actually am really struggling to get EXP

[rose sequoia]

Oh

Welp quintuple Armor sucks

[near radish]

why isaac? he is completely useless in this fight

[frozen cargo]

Armor penetration artifact

Someone you might have built already. Unlike Qing Mao. You might have Morrigane though, she also does the Penetrator role.

[near radish]

it doesn't help much as isaac ults there once maybe twice in whole fight...

[gusty lichen]

my corvus and aurora aren't 130 yet

[placid granite]

Can Rufus help in fighting against corrupted Galahad in AD13-9?

[near radish]

lottery - gala deals mostly physical dmg and some bonus pure

[placid granite]

Can you tell me what your team is composed of?

[near radish]

for 13-9? jhu+dorian

and 3 dummies who have to die as fast as possible

and their only purpose is to buy 2-4 sec for jhu so he is sure to charge up his first ult in time and set him in proper place, so he is in dorian's aura

one of them is mojo to add some extra dmg - lately using this:

[placid granite]

Which part of Jhu is a must to level up?

[near radish]

violet skill is least important here

[placid granite]

Do you think this Jhu can take down the corrupted Galahad at one shot?

[near radish]

no idea... never tried at this level

[frozen cargo]

Fun with double mage buff.

[gleaming ruin]

Never tried Kayla against the Galahad boss, but if you use her and can keep her alive, Galahad turns around and concentrates on Kayla, giving the rest of your team time to take him down.

[frozen cargo]

Useful. Also works on Gina.

[near radish]

just need to keep her alive somehow

[forest sinew]

Depends what route you took. If you took the middle route with the +50% damage buff, I think my Jhu was similar (or perhaps just marginally stronger) when I could 1-shot him. On the other routes, you will likely need to beef him up a little more

[gusty lichen]

what is the best way to skip the physicl resist node on adv12 middle path?

node 18

[vocal plume]

UNskippable

😦

[gusty lichen]

mmm well its only 90pct not a full 100pct haha..will hit it a few times

[vocal plume]

I built a Heidi and Celeste on the side to battle those nodes

[gusty lichen]

mmm i have a 48k celeste and a 34k heidi but idk if they strong enough

[vocal plume]

start feeding them on the side... in no time you'll have options to swap in when you hit these nodes and the 100% version on Adv 13

[near radish]

it is skippable...

but need to rework left and middle path a bit

and either right one has to kill eye on top or left can't make single mistake

[gusty lichen]

easy node! lol just swapped my isaac for coruvs to give jhu some time to gain energy https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1710212677204179217

omg then lost to Corny chaining his ults at me...lol https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1710213010582172657

[near radish]

red - 13 moves (can use remaining 2 to kill eye on top, yellow 14 moves, blue 12 moves:

[gusty lichen]

stealing! ha

[near radish]

what stealing?

[gusty lichen]

oh just a fun way of saying am going to copy it and put it in my notes

[gusty lichen]

once aurora ulted...corny dodge 5 attacks from jhu then that was long enough for corny to kill my team with rapid fire of his death rock

[near radish]

another option - left and right use 15 moves - one kills eye on top, other kills alternate node... and middle has 11 moves to split between this phys resist node and boss:

[stark axle]

nah, not 100% unskipable... but u need to have 2 very strong players for that

[verbal narwhal]

Nice!

[topaz tiger]

#adventures message

[latent silo]

how??? literally how???

[near radish]

cain patronage on aurora, and dodge, dodge, dodge....

while axel's aura is active

[frozen cargo]

Doesn't work for me... Some people manage it though.

[dull shoal]

!ban @willow galleon scam

[chilly crane]

lotfy1013 has been banned

Reason: scam

[iron nest]

How to know my adventure is private or not?

[vocal plume]

When you create it mate, there's a box to check to make it private

[iron nest]

My adventure was created but I don't remember it's private or not

[vocal plume]

Ohhhhh only way to know is to have someone NOT invited look to see if they can see it

I think everyone is already in an adventure tho atm

[gusty lichen]

what is a good pure team for left side on 13-12 using corvus and heidi?

[vocal plume]

Corvus/Morrigan/Heidi/Iris/Dorian?

[gusty lichen]

dont have iris or morrigan....how bout this?

neb tank 🙂

[vocal plume]

Not sure that'll do enough dmg

but worthy of a try

[somber flume]

just dont do left side if you're not ready. You have to face like 6 phys immune nodes.

[gusty lichen]

well i started adv13-12 and the guy who has 3x my hero pwr just took the right side without saying anythimg...lmao

so i took the left...was rough...esp the rufus/judge combo...nvr seen that

[hazy mural]

This is why I usually just start my own adv, esp since I'm one of the weakest in my guild

[gusty lichen]

Will it show in inventory if you have an extra portal? I am currently in an adventure and cannot check the normal way?

[hazy mural]

You can see in the sanctuary even if you are in an adventure

Top right in the sanctuary

[gusty lichen]

ah duh! haha thanks!

[still mesa]

is this team strong enough to do adventure 10?

[near radish]

it may be or may not be...
in terms of power and level it is higher than minimum recommended and should be sufficient though it depends on luck with daily buffs and enemy combos

10 is tricky - you are not allowed to have any failed fight

[still mesa]

hmm sounds like i'll wait a bit longer then

[near radish]

seen ppl doing it with 290-300k teams and 500k failing

it is why most advanced players say to do it once, raid as many times as required for "clear adventure x times" and "deafeat boss x times" quests and then do 9 until you are ready for 11

[still mesa]

oh so it's just 10 being annoying?

[near radish]

yes... it is only adventure not allowing single mistake or failed fight

[still mesa]

i see, thank you

[gusty lichen]

do enemy heroes in adventures have tree/ascension abilities leveled?

[frozen cargo]

No

Not yet.

[gleaming ruin]

They will have in lvl14 adventures, all maxed out plus certain buffs where not strength but only tactics and team composition counts. No failures allowed there and not raidable 😜 .

[gusty nexus]

Hi guys, Do you think that Adv 12 is beatable with any of these 3 options? I suppose I should stick to the magic path

[brave coral]

If Heidi is as strong as she looks. Definitely.

[gusty nexus]

Heidi is 126k, just reached Ascension 4 and 29/50 magic role branch

[brave coral]

If she survives, with this surrounding team you should be able to go left or right path.

[gusty nexus]

ok, thanks for your time

[near radish]

you have solid mix of dmg types here so all paths should be doable

[golden abyss]

funny

[frozen cargo]

Teams hand selected based on top Meta teams. A Map similar to Adventure 10 with multiple paths all leading to 0 mistakes or lose the 4th chest.

[vague valley]

Lol

[rose sequoia]

Aurora Cel HID

If you don't have Axel patronage for Dorian, no worries

Dorian can be pretty weak just needs Violet skill lvl 90

[stark axle]

i started 13s around that power 😉
so it should quite easily be enough for 12

if u still struggle, learn more about damage types

[rose sequoia]

An Aurora Cel HID team has magic and pure so should be good basically all of the time

Obv the focus is on pure, so pure res would mean you need Aurora and Cel on the top of their game

But maybe Neb instead of Cel then

And could sub in Dante

[stark axle]

my base was aurora-cel-iris-seb
5th hero was either heidi or isaac mostly.
i was able to do 13s semi-blind with those 6

[rose sequoia]

Yeah stupid Iris OP

[hazy mural]

Heidi is pretty nuts too, esp Heidi dorian

13s so much easier now I have an actual tank (even though he's not really that big yet)

The sheer HP on a real meaty tank is nice

[stark axle]

pure dps is king lol
and heidi/iris have the highest pure dps

especally in adventures

[frozen cargo]

Corvus is pretty high up there, but he is reactionary and doesn't synergize with iris the same way that heidi do

[gusty nexus]

Thanks everyone I easily done the left route without loosing. About Dorian i never invested in it but i will give it a thought, thanks for the suggestion

[terse flame]

Be careful of Rufus and Isaac teams

[rose sequoia]

No need to invest in him, just Violet skill lvl 90. That's all you need

[topaz tiger]

nerf galahad 😾

[frozen cargo]

Narf Gelehed

[vocal plume]

Farg Neglehad

[near radish]

if you put nebula instead of celeste - he wouldn't have any chance to use single skill

[near radish]

same node - 6 seconds into fight:

and 1 sec later:

whole fight completed at 1:50...

[proven birch]

Your team for 13-9 is wonderful! Death to corrupted Galahad! https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1711116229839492028

[near radish]

it is just secondary team used just because tank buff... usually i prefer osh meta

[proven birch]

The buff is 300% physical and magical attack for Tanks + 50% speedup on cooldowns for Tanks.

This would have been very difficult otherwise. Even in this replay Galahad went down at 0:00.

[near radish]

and if somebody wants to laugh at idiot's luck - same adventure, same aurora/orion combo win vs 100% magic resist node (i was so impressed with aurora's performance i didn't even try to remember static buffs): https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1711119987736629142

[jagged surge]

Anyone want to join my guild?

[rose sequoia]

Aurora and Seb are just cooking the phys dmg 🔥

[near radish]

seb mostly pure i believe

[rose sequoia]

Yeah, but Seb and Neb buffed Aurora's PA and Crit

All of Aurora's dmg there should be phys dmg no? If it's 100% magic res

And then Seb gets phys and pure both

Aurora would have PA buff too right? Like the daily buff today

[near radish]

yes... but her own pa isn't that great so she needs to rely on nebula's buff

it is so high anyways that she can kill rufus with basic attack with those dailies

not sure how daily 300% tank buff stacks with nebula's buff on aurora, but if it multiplies like base attack - it would be like +400k from nebula

[rose sequoia]

That's what I meant

[rose sequoia]

Just wondering what team do whaley whales use to kill a13 bosses in one shot

[terse flame]

Dante tank team

I dun change it 😂

[rose sequoia]

For me?

[terse flame]

I dunno about u…u asked what whales use…

[rose sequoia]

Alright fine

[near radish]

i'm non-whale and use osh meta with small modifications

[rose sequoia]

What modifications?

[near radish]

for cleaver - replace isaac with celeste/axel - 80k o+1 celeste
orion - either regular osh or replace sebasian with orion

galabad - just jhu with baby dorian, thea, mojo, and whatever in front of jhu - all except jhu just some violet

ginger - didn't test anything.. simply not touching 13-10

sometimes replacing seb with orion or heidi

[idle egret]

osh team... i always use oshteam NO MODIFICATIONS though lol

[untold cargo]

I do Celeste tank with lian, violet Orion and mojo, and usually either jorgen or nebula or something like that, with axel

[gusty lichen]

buffed chabba is rediculus

[rose sequoia]

Use Jorgen

[gusty lichen]

ty i forgot! lol

[rose sequoia]

Are you fine with Kayla and Luther in the back?

[gusty lichen]

thats why i used dorian and put oliver on seb as they are in the back..idk what else to do in the back

[rose sequoia]

Jorgen will stand behind Seb

[gusty lichen]

oh problem as my jorgen is blue lvl75

49k health

ig i should level him up to violet

or maybe orange? he still has only 52k health...mmm or level a skin or health glyph...wdy think

[rose sequoia]

No leave him low Health

Just give up on this one 🤣 or use Axel/Albus

It's not worth it, I think Chabba Kayla Luther is just too much for you

Last shot I would give you is Jhu Neb Seb Martha and one other, Arachne, Jorgen, or someone else

Iris or Faf maybe, then just give up

[gusty lichen]

3 tries but made it thru

[gusty lichen]

so leave jorgen low health so he ults quicker?

[rose sequoia]

Yeah

[gusty lichen]

get him to 130 tho right? or leave at 85

ok ig get to 130 and max violet skill

[rose sequoia]

Lvl 130, max White Green Violet

I'd do Violet Green White as the order... maxing White or Green is nonessential

Blue skill can be harmful

[gusty lichen]

perfect ty!

[gusty lichen]

not my day! adv12 right side...triple armor...tried this but

[rose sequoia]

Stop doing weird comps, your main team would work better

Especially with Isaac charging from M&S

[rose sequoia]

Yeah that's good enough

Might not win, but will do more dmg

[gusty lichen]

would this be better? more of a pure damage set up

[rose sequoia]

No

[frozen cargo]

Who are you fighting?

[frozen cargo]

That is Quadruple Armor right there... Jhu probably not the best option.

[frozen cargo]

What are their buffs?

[frozen cargo]

Looks like they are immune to physical.

[placid granite]

How strong is your Jhu against galabad? Glyph, artifact, ascension and tree level please. Do your thea and mojo die within first 15 seconds?

How does first artifact (physical attack) relate to Dorian skills? Referring his stats, magic attack is greater than physical attack.

[frozen cargo]

I assumed it was due to basic attacks not landing before being annihilated.

[frozen cargo]

As a support hero, dorian increases physical attack for your team. It is not really for his own benefit aside from basic attacks.

[vague valley]

what are those patronages

axel on arachne oli on isaac albus on seb bruh

[frozen cargo]

Those are valid patrons. Oh... I thought you were saying the ones you listed were wrong. My mistake. Carry on.

[near radish]

my jhu is now nearly maxed but it worked with weaker one...
hero i set in front of jhu dies on 2nd or 3rd basic attack from boss, all other on first ult and only jhu solo is left

[placid granite]

Last week, my Jhu only killed only 1/4 of life bar of boss. Which glyph should be levelled up in order, Crit hit, AP, Health or Strength? Which artifact is more important, Book or Ring?

[near radish]

most important stats when you attack with physical dmg are AP, PA, crit chance - in this order

[hazy mural]

need iris for tank busting

[gusty lichen]

oli was on seb to survive enemy kayla

[rose sequoia]

😂 just use Isaac with Ollie patronage lol

[stark axle]

how the hell did u fail that?
wheres your seb?
how did dante 0 damage?

[near radish]

dante tank vs chabba - got eaten and died early

though - completely no dmg from som many heroes except celeste - it looks like attack on node bufefd by eyes - 100%+ dmg reduction and dmg from celeste is this healing reversal

it is to late now but without replay or at least more details nobody can guess what was reason of this fail

[stark axle]

hm, debren made a solid point there. if 2x 95% reduction is active, it acts as full imunity due to rounding.

so never attack anything with 2 resistance towers active.

ah ok, then i guess its the account with no tank?

[golden abyss]

damage reduction stacks additively

so 95+95 = 190% damage reduction

[stark axle]

ah lol i know that...
was used to do adventures semi blind since maybe 6 months without fail.
now i took over a different account (much bigger in total)
but it does not have my adventure main 6.
so i feel like a total noob lol

in the first week on the new account i lost more often then i lost in the whole last year on my old account

[frozen cargo]

He was tired of receiving a free adventure portal every day.

[stark axle]

yea its hard work to get something free every day for logging in every third day 🤣

[golden notch]

tank seb xD

[frozen cargo]

I have used Sebastian tank vs Lian lineups in the past.

[rose sequoia]

I've been playing with Neb Seb HID because I'm tired of not having Neb clear all debuffs

[frozen cargo]

Nebula tank, Sebastian and the Hiv team? I picture Nebula as not buffing Heidi, but I guess technically, she will since she has no body in front.

[rose sequoia]

HIV team is crazy 💀

Heidi pumping out STIs is wild... here comes the monkeypox 🙈

[frozen cargo]

I don't use Iris as much as I should

[rose sequoia]

My Iris is four stars... waiting for a ss quest to lvl her up to Abs Evo

[golden notch]

The HIV team goes hard lol

[hazy mural]

same actually, theres a guy who likes to run lian dorian as his hidden team in GA and i use seb tank vs that

[rose sequoia]

Lian Door is stupid bc Door just wakes them all up

[knotty moth]

would a really weak one die fast enough?

[rose sequoia]

Maybe, but then you'd have to be fighting a team that does some sort of AoE or multi-target dmg on first attack, like Dark Star

[frozen cargo]

Yeah, most heroes will hurt at least the front opponent hero, Fafnir is an exception. Some of the heroes you might use with lian will use aoe as well which will further wake the enemy team.

And using Axel, hurting the front wakes the whole team.

[topaz tiger]

[solar sundial]

[placid granite]

Which skin is the best to invest for Iris, Beach, Stellar and Masquerade?

[brave coral]

Mage, health, armor, intelligence, penetration.

[frozen cargo]

Yes

[placid granite]

Yes for which one? Or yes for all? I have limited resources and am prepared to buy one only.

[frozen cargo]

The hen is in the fox nest

[topaz tiger]

1m albus ? 🤨

[near radish]

and?

just normal number for him

looks like iris just died - her bitey still on battlefield...
read albus green skill

[gusty lichen]

who wins?

90pct mag resist node

[near radish]

1 - isaac kinda pointless here - enemy uses mainly phys dmg...
2 - andvari stuns - seb can protect against it and also increase jhu's dmg

[gusty lichen]

ok will drop isc for seb

[gusty lichen]

well isaac is sort of my second tank here...as a buffer for chabba. i dont want jhu to get eaten as chabbas has a double buff (tank/control)

drop neb for seb?

[near radish]

depends on buffs but i probably would use asta if needed 2nd tank

[gusty lichen]

i feel that but my isc so much stronger than asto right now 290k health 13k armor vs 160k health 5k armor

and vs mojo and armor pen arti

vs. double armor arti defense (chabba/andvari)

[rose sequoia]

If you're worried about Chabba, use Neb's ult to take his energy

[gusty lichen]

well i got jorgen for that...but could drop jorgen for seb/neb combo and hit neb early to take tanks energy

[rose sequoia]

Imo do Corvus (with Ollie) Jhu Neb Seb Martha Axel

[versed trench]

what is the least power needed for adv 11 ?

[golden abyss]

i had my first flawless run at just over 300k

[somber flume]

what about your teammates though? 11-12 can be fairly easy with 2 strong ppl carrying

[hazy mural]

Yeah 12 is fine with 2 strong players and 1 weak player

[versed trench]

am close to 500k i will give-it a try

[stark axle]

i have never seen anyone fail at over 400k. even if they leveled quite random or clearly outdated teams.
at 500k u should be able to try 12 with good buffs

[versed trench]

i have the twin team so anti magic teams greatly counter mine

[versed trench]

so one rufus can stop me

[near radish]

rufus is not real problem - violet morrigan blocks his resurrection

doesn't need to be upgraded much - just enough to be alive when rufus attempts to resurrect first time

soon you'll find isaac is much bigger problem

[stark axle]

get a 20k morri. if u dont have that, its possible today

so rufus cant stop u from tomorrow 😉

[versed trench]

i have already start investing on jhu should i stop

[stark axle]

also get a 20k iris for isaac.

[stark axle]

no, jhu is also needed and also works low

a list of good heros to have around 20-40k (for now/short term/end of this week):
dorian
jhu
morri
iris

getting them all to 40k might be a bit too much short term, but 20k each should be possible today

non of those is needed beyond 40k before u want to face multiple routes on adventure 13 (or big osh in case of jhu) - big means lvl 150/160

dorian never needs more than 40k

[versed trench]

thanks alot i will start with morr and jhu for know

[stark axle]

dorian beyond 40k is something for when your guild kills 160 and u finished your cornelius team for osh.
and if ur also able to kill all routes on all adventure 13 maps with no stress (even 13-10)

and if u feel like u dont really need anything else for arena to be in the contest for top 3

iris at 80k was what made the difference for me to enable daily adventure 13s 😉

[versed trench]

thank you, my long term plan is set on now

[latent silo]

need someone lvl 50+ in my guild to help w adventures. any bites?

very funny @topaz tiger. very funny indeed.

[forest sinew]

Any suggestions for what team to build against the Adv 13 (with 10 map) boss? Was thinking maybe this

Unfortunately the 10 map doesn't allow me to 'try' it out 😆

[stark axle]

i would do seb instead of phobos.
unfortunatly u dont have aurora, shes the best tank there to speed up everyone.

[forest sinew]

Do the extra crit hits from Seb help tho? (Considering the 1% damage per hit cap)

[stark axle]

1% are 26k there

ok, i was also worrried about getting stunned but ginger does not have control effects. and with 2 armor artefacts, ur pretty safe there.

[forest sinew]

yeah, hopefully that's enough

I rememeber back in the day when I did Adv 10, I sometimes got killed very quick there

[stark axle]

im not sure if i even had a guildmate attacking it without aurora 😅
good luck

or how good is your galahad?
and how is your marthas #1 artefact?

maybe u can go a bit more offensive there (another option would be jhu tank for that, but im not sure if jhu can tank here)

[forest sinew]

Martha's artifact is 5* lvl 100

[stark axle]

on the other hand, ginger has no healing and relatively low health... jhu should be fine

[forest sinew]

Galahad is 128k (with Oliver)

[stark axle]

ginger has lowest health of all adv. 13 bosses.

[forest sinew]

That's good to know 😁

[stark axle]

and i mean u can kill galahad boss with jhu, a sub 70k yasmine and a 10k dorian 😉
so damage is not the problem

[forest sinew]

I do use Galahad against the Cleaver boss

Whether he's strong enough for the Ginger boss, not sure

But anyways, thanks for the tips!

[brave coral]

What's the best adventure type if you want to start with 13?

[terse flame]

12 map

[idle egret]

yeah map 12 seems the easy map indeed... at least you have alot of spare fights if a player loses 1

[terse flame]

yup. usually there r 9 moves left over for us

[idle egret]

indeed... best map ever lol

easy to .... boss is pittyfull

[gusty lichen]

one shot ch12 boss with 1:15 remaining! Recently got Vex to violet and he adds so many ticks of damage.

[near radish]

celeste instead of isaac would make it even faster

[idle egret]

easy peasy with old oshmeta team

[gusty lichen]

celeste tank?

used to be a 2 hit boss last week. so ig its not surprising I eventually one shot him. What IS surprising is that it happened in less than 50 seconds

i chalk it up to vex/violet but idk maybe not

[somber flume]

Maybe your martha finally survived and can provide the speed buff.

seeing daily buff... support energy gain. and healer speed. Yea definitely makes martha go crazy with speed

[near radish]

yes... about 80k o2/o3 celeste can easily tank cleaver in 13

[gusty lichen]

mine is 50k

[near radish]

and her curse blocks boss healing so makes reduces overall dmg required to kill it

[gusty lichen]

or2 th

[gusty lichen]

yeah i saw a video of someone doing that with the healing tower still up

[near radish]

with healer or mage buff it is even doable with single attack

was doing it many times

with top tower - +300% dmg active

[gusty lichen]

wow even the damage tower...wow

[somber flume]

assuming your celeste is built as a normal person... with high weapon arti.

[gusty lichen]

lvl85 4 star atm

[somber flume]

mine is super low on weapon arti so she cant survive dmg tower yet.

and celeste arti is pretty far behind in priority lol, since i usually dont use her as a healer or arti buff (team has very little reliance on MA)

[gusty lichen]

now thats a pretty clean map!

[stark axle]

map 12 things 😂

gonna be close with only 10 attempts at the boss 😂

[latent silo]

has anyone noticed the 1st boss's ult is the same as Galahad's? was his ult recycled?

[near radish]

did you read boss name?

it is nothing strange that galahad uses galahad's ult

and other galahad's skills as well

[latent silo]

no name lol

[somber flume]

there is a log

[brave coral]

Is 13-12 like normal 12, that one path has all 3 damage type reductions and the other ones just one.

[frozen cargo]

You should be able to find maps online that show where the damage reduction and bonus hp nodes are.

[near radish]

yes when it comes to number of types but magic and physical routes are switched and more nodes have reduction

[brave coral]

I found it out 😉

+250% health was a bit hard.

[hazy mural]

Yeah some of the 250% HP+ rough daily buffs can be brutal

Luckily 13-12 has so many free moves that you need to mess up pretty bad to fail it

[wise berry]

how strong do I need to be to do adventure 12, and adventure 13 (In the future)?

[near radish]

depends on other players joining and your team compostion

with other 2 strong enough it is possible to do 13 with 400k team

with good team

[somber flume]

a bit above 500k should make it consistent in 12 with your prefered route (with up to 2 fails). Weaker team will need good daily buff and more wiggle rooms

and yea with good team composition

[near radish]

with team composed of just random heroes - even 900k may be not enough

[frozen cargo]

How is your Aurora? She really helps with physical resist nodes.

[stark axle]

other heros also help there.
i wouldnt narrow it down to 1 hero per route

[frozen cargo]

Well, yes. But Aurora makes a huge difference. Heidi also, but Heidi might not be on someone's short list.

[stark axle]

i know, aurora was my main hero for 3 years

its just that everything works in adventures (well almost anything, as long as u think for 3 minutes)

[frozen cargo]

Not so much if you have a lineup like Dante, Nebula, Sebastian, Jet, martha, and need to take out a 100% physical resist node.

With Corvus Rufus or Astaroth as tanks available, still difficult if not impossible.

[near radish]

actually it is possible with strong albus but depends on daily buffs and enemy team

couple of times was so fast i didn't change team and went with magic on mag res, or phys on phys res node and albus saved a day

[hazy mural]

Heidi is very good for adv

Don't have much problem in adv13 anymore and my hero pool isn't that deep

Just iris+Heidi for phys resist

[somber flume]

albus is carrying my phys res nodes now even though he only just hit v2. Problem is that waiting for albus is slow and the team might get killed off in the mean time, but at least i can 2-shot those nodes most of the time.

[terse flame]

ocne u get ur dante tank team up and running, physical route doesnt matter anymore

[hazy mural]

Sometimes there's the one physical resist node though in adv 13

[latent silo]

i need more ppl in adventures. any advice? (im in server 291)

[stark axle]

dont ask here, ask in your guild chat.
most here are on older servers, we couldnt even join you if we wanted and tried.

if your guild is dead, consider joining a functioning one.

[latent silo]

but i made this one. it costed me 300 gems

[stark axle]

being in a dead guild costs u far more than that

how many players do u have that are active at least 5 days a week?

[latent silo]

its just me and crow

[near radish]

and it is one of reasons you shouldn't create guild if you don't have any ppl ready to join it with you

[latent silo]

we the only ones

[stark axle]

discuss with him and then move into a functioning guild with 25-28 members.

[near radish]

right now your guild has nothing to offer to attract anybody to join

[latent silo]

but ill never get those gems back...😢

[near radish]

so best you can count is just few random players who don't know what they want to do in game

[latent silo]

thats fine

[stark axle]

u will get them back over and over again worth of free stuff from an actual guild

[latent silo]

how?

[stark axle]

guild wide rewards.... man did u EVER play anything in a group? (online or offline)

for example by being able to play adventures 😉

100 CP are worth 800 emeralds or so

[near radish]

i'm sure it is better to not get back gems and be in functioning guild which will give rewards for different activities, including gems for killing guild raid boss every week than not get gems and get nothing staying in dead guild

[stark axle]

so your 300 EMs are like 40 CP, thats 3 days of adventures

even on lowest level.

[latent silo]

whats cp?

[stark axle]

chaos particles, the reason why we play adventures

the purple stuff for pet stones

[latent silo]

oh

i mostly do them to complete quests lol

[near radish]

you need to them regularly to upgrade your pets

[terse flame]

wow....how long have u been playing??

@latent silo

[latent silo]

im f2p lvl 61

[terse flame]

hum....good luck 🤣

[wise berry]

guild raid gives you emeralds directly (extra 25 a week) along with better rewards for killing stronger bosses, but the main difference is in adventures, where you will get way more rewards

I have a 450k main team, do you guys think it's worth it for me too switch from being the carried player in the (mostly) 2-player route for adventure 11 so the whole team has more chances to mess up?

the other 2 players I do it the most with are 860k and 620k, but sometimes we've been having a different player join without being able to do the boss, if we switch to the classic 11 route, then one of the two can take the middle route, and I can be the backup for the boss if the extra player is unable

[near radish]

honestly i have completely no idea what are you talking about... what 2-players route in 11?

[terse flame]

ad12 is so much easier and allow more mistakes

My AD after I finish my both accounts.

[wise berry]

the top two players carry the adventure, the third is just there to get the fourth chest

[wise berry]

do you think I'm ready for adventure 12 though? Not sure I have the power for it

[near radish]

it depends on other 2 players but 12 has 9 spare moves which can be split between all 3 players in almost any way you want

[golden abyss]

bro wtf is this

[wise berry]

adv route

[golden abyss]

why does the bottom route repeat so many squares?

and only 2 total attempts on the boss wtf

please delete that monstrosity before any new players actually decide to follow those routes 😭

[wise berry]

you only need one attempt to kill the boss, and it's an effective route for 2 strong players to effectively carry one weaker player

[terse flame]

Again, just do 12....

[wise berry]

but isn't it much stronger?

[terse flame]

Wats ur team power?

[wise berry]

450k

[terse flame]

12 is around 400-450

I don't like Solfor route tho

But mine needs 2 strong players with both mage and physical team

[golden abyss]

12 is much harder than 11 from what am hearing

[wise berry]

what route do you use?

[terse flame]

My own lol

[wise berry]

you have a map?

[golden abyss]

no it's a pretty atrocious route regardless of the strength of the players

allows for 0 room for error, even on the "weak player" path

[wise berry]

allows for one mess up, or two if on the weak player path

[golden abyss]

how 2 bro

all 15 attacks are used

[wise berry]

if you fail to take one of the ones that doubles-back

[golden abyss]

to get 4 chests

[wise berry]

then you don't have to waste a move to go back

[golden abyss]

thats if you fail on the double back node

[wise berry]

yeah, but the 2nd double-back has the buff

so the most likely point of failure

[golden abyss]

and also if you fail once you still have to attack it again, which lands you on the same node as if you had just won in the first attempt

so i really dont get what you're saying

just do adv 11 according to the solfors route. it's so much better

[wise berry]

if you fail the one where you have to double-back, ignore it and move on

[wise berry]

but you need 3 decent players

[golden abyss]

then you dont get 4 chests 😂

[wise berry]

you still get 4 chests, I've been in an advenuture where that's happened

[golden abyss]

no, no you dont

[wise berry]

which route can you give the weak player?

the orange route is a pain if you mess up once, and the outer-two have much harder teams

[golden abyss]

bottom or top. the strongest player has to be on the route opposite to the weaker player. middle route is doable by anyone with a strong hero synergy combo

[wise berry]

which one is for the weakest player?

[terse flame]

Right (physical)

Waiting for that person to join 😂

[wise berry]

ok, and which one is hardest?

[terse flame]

Mid I guess

[wise berry]

red?

[golden abyss]

oi were you blue?

[terse flame]

Yeah

[terse flame]

Both, I play both accounts

[golden abyss]

🐳

[near radish]

this route has some waiting.. i prefer no waiting route

both versions thoug allow to leave 6 nodes to kill for weakest player and he will need to use only 1 empty move... 6 spots to kill with 8 spare attacks

[gusty lichen]

so same routes for 13-9 as in adv 9 vanilla? which path is for magic which for physical...which is hardest?

[rose sequoia]

In a13-9, top = phys res, mid = pure res, and bottom = magic res

Hardest is determined by the path with the least amount of failures allowed typically. Depends on the variation you choose

[near radish]

middle is always only 1 free move to spend on failure or boss attack

in both versions

[rose sequoia]

That sounds right

[near radish]

one version leave 3 moves on top path and 2 on bottom, other is opposite - 2 top, 3 bottom

[rose sequoia]

Are there differences in how many buffs each team gets tho? You can't fail to an Altar of Power lol

And it makes your next fights easier

[near radish]

yes

[gusty lichen]

awesome! thanks 🙂

[near radish]

middle always takes 2 altars, including 50% atk... but top and bottom get 2/1 altars in this map and 1/2 in other one:

path with 3 moves gets 1 altar, path with 2 moves gets 2 altars

just remember to watch paths on map and don't relly on written paths for regular 9

numbers of nodes are moved in strange manner... including node #0 appearing in 13-9

there is also no waiting version but it is somewhat harder as both, top and bottom paths, get only 2 moves and middle skips 50% altar

[rose sequoia]

It's a buff squad isn't it?

[somber flume]

this route is decent, i did it for a while back then, doing blue route (and another mate doing yellow). We were both 450~500k and the 3rd person can be like 300k and still get 4 chest, because green route only has easy nodes. It also more or less guarantee 3 chests with just 2 players compared to solfors which can even fail to get 3 chests if 3rd person sucks (had that happen way too many times)

[somber flume]

these 2 can probably carry 12 but it's a pretty demanding job for the 800k player.

[near radish]

no, 0 has no any special buff

it is buff itself:

[rose sequoia]

I thought it was an Altar of Power

[near radish]

but ya can see this part of bottom path for example:

in regular 9, node #32 is part of middle path

[vague valley]

.

[stark axle]

<@&729965095974731787> spam of same message in all (?) or at least multiple channels.

[tall olive]

Hi

[vague valley]

This not from rules 😒

[near radish]

it is... and all of this spam is off-topic

[terse flame]

For AD13-9 Map, you can actually go through the middle with 2 buffed nodes easily, so whoever comes afterwards dun have to wait

[brave coral]

Just a question of someone that has no plan. Adventure 13-12 had basically team strenght of adv 12. Is it the same with adv 9? Or is the strenght there like 12?

[near radish]

it is adventure 13.. so it is a bit stronger than 12

[somber flume]

all 13 nodes are 600-650k regardless of map. 12 have some nodes in the 600k but also many nodes around 500k

(that's not accounting for static buffs going to 100%res, 100%damage, and 250% health, compared to 12's 90/50/200 respectively)

[stark axle]

adventure 13 heros are the (very) old maxed version.
so no asgard, artefacts lvl 100 maxed.
and ofc they dont have pets or patronages

so pre asgard, it was actually hard to do it. nowadays its super easy.
thats why i keep requesting higher levels.
for example, adventure 14 could add a maxed tree on top, adventure 15 could add maxed hero ascension on top of that, #16 with lvl 130 artefacts, #17 with pets.

lets try again 😂

[terse flame]

i think my pets r at the level where, asking for higher level adventures r not that important to me anymore lol

[stark axle]

its just for the challenge for me as well.

i like doing 13-10s by now

[frozen cargo]

Just solo 12 for funsies?

[stark axle]

somewhere i saw someone solo 13-10... but i never checked if that route allows 4 boxes once others join

[frozen cargo]

If you go through the one rout that does kill the boss... Then yes, if you have to deviate at all, no.

[hazy mural]

Once I clear 45 I cannot go past boss without killing it to clear 43 can I?

[vague valley]

depends
there's some down side paths that allow you one spare move so yeah u could technically do that... but tou need to kill the boss with the 85% resist

it's galahad tho so you'll be just fine xd

[hazy mural]

95% resist

i dont think i can get galahad in 3 shots with 95% resist

i go straight to boss then, i got alot of attempts that way

i did it in 4 attacks but i actually could have done it in 3 if i had perfect play tbh

oh i needed to do in 2 attacks +kill last one for 4 boxes anyway

[terse flame]

I did that already 😂

[wise berry]

How much harder are the bosses in adv 13? is 13-12 similar to 12 difficulty, or substantially harder?

[near radish]

13-12 is a bit harder than 12 but not so much

differences between other heroes and their adv 13 versions are much bigger though

[terse flame]

Resist nodes r a lot harder since it's 100%

[wise berry]

but the boss in particular?

[terse flame]

Not really harder....

[wise berry]

ok

[hazy mural]

The extra resist nodes and every team at 650kish make 13s abit harder but that's about it

If you don't have good swaps for physical resist battles etc it can be hard

[frozen cargo]

Aurora is a good swap. Heidi also. Iris is dependent on having Heidi or another non physical damage dealer.

Amira perhaps? These heroes are all pretty high on the usability scale.

[hazy mural]

Yeah I have iris and heidi at a reasonable level which seems plenty for me

And Rufus I guess

I run Dante tank but Dante on Phys resist nodes as a tank still kinda sucks

Doing aurora now

[acoustic hornet]

mage swiftness and mage energy!
todays buffs for adventure 13(12) are godly for a mage group on the left (more phys resistant) path. 10 second fights. 😁

[near radish]

heidi's rampage - https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1713595051838412026:

[gusty lichen]

meanwhile the physical team on the right side of the map struggles hard

i feel the best buffs are one magic and one physical so all teams benefit and the enemies aren't too overbearing....but wdy all think?

[acoustic hornet]

Or support hero buffs are probably the most just thing. but we did good also on other paths. zero defeats. \o/

[gusty lichen]

i have a 650k physical team and did right side. osh lol team. it had ZERO buffs :/ i lost alot lol

[wise berry]

can anyone help me kill this team?

+martha

and a dorian with violet skill upgraded

[near radish]

aurora, nebula, heidi, dorian...

if you have cain patronage for auora...

then eithe something behind heidi or jhu

though i probably wouldn't go with jhu - buffed aurora should be more efficient

[wise berry]

chabba kept eating her, which was mildly annoying

[near radish]

so either give him somebody else to be eaten... or use jhu who can start killing when aurora is out

buffed chabba is annoying, but you need just something to let heidi do his job

[wise berry]

I went again, aurora murdered most of them before they became an issue, then slowly killed them with no healer

now I need my teamate to kill the boss

[near radish]

this 250% hp buff was a problem - aurora with tank buff and set next to nebula is a bit terrific

[idle egret]

do lower adventures

[near radish]

it was unfortunate wording... question was about selecting best team for fight

[idle egret]

looking at what he got.. DO LOWER ADVENTURES

[hazy mural]

this works for almost every fight tbh aslong as its not crazy buffed

[versed trench]

this adv 11 easy for his level

[versed trench]

this late but can you alt all when amira alt with axil pet ,celeste should get aurora out chabba with here healing sphere so no dorian too

[gusty lichen]

anyway to find out buffs for adventures in advance? is there some sort of schedule or rotation at work here?

are pet buffs significant? like would you use a different pet depending on the buff?

[vocal plume]

What level does patronage become available?