adventures

[marble oar]

it surely happens

need morigan or jet

[frozen cargo]

13 is scary with the 100% resist and additional buff nodes. It isn't a whole lot stronger than 12 otherwise.

Rufus in physical resist nodes is annoying to say the least.

[marble oar]

yah ,, regular fight in 13 are no problem for me

i usualy need double hit the ones with 100% resist

though i run al the way to the bosss in 13-9 yesterday but got one shotted by that galahad ;p

[gleaming ruin]

Bet there was a 300% tank damage bonus.

[marble oar]

i dont think that apllies to boss

but 13 -9 boss has 500% dmg buff regardless

[marble oar]

i dont even remeber what killed me ;p

and my magic team guy seems to have big problems with chabba

he dies to chabba teams a lot

and 3rd person joining couldnt kil boss on 2 strikes

yah

[stark axle]

does he have aurora but no celeste?

sounds like that.. celeste helps in that case (her healing can get u out of chabba)

[marble oar]

yah no celeste

martha and thea but no celeste

[stark axle]

hm, tell him to get a 40k celeste 😄 should work for now

[marble oar]

and mushy not aurora

[stark axle]

if rest of the team is strong enough

[stark axle]

hm, but still an offensive tank.. would have been my second guess

i mean if u run asta, it does not matter if asta gets eaten or not, hes not doing much actively anyway

[lucid edge]

Is it possible for somebody to rejoin an adventure that they left too early, let's say "by accident", if the adventure has not been closed yet? A new guild mate left before we attacked the boss and would like him to be able to collect the third chest. I assume he is out of luck, but figured I'd ask, just in case.

[frozen cargo]

No

I don't know if you can submit a ticket to be added back... But seems like it would take days yo resolve.

[vocal plume]

Yeah, no... He is out of luck, you can never return to an adventure that you left.

[frozen cargo]

If even possible

It warns you when in you leave

[pastel roost]

Hey all 🙂
What team do i use best to defeat the Adv 13-10 Boss?

[iron nest]

Aurora (Cain) + Astaroth (Oliver) + Jhu + Celeste + Maya, I use this team to defeat boss Ginger

[frozen cargo]

10 is Ginger?

[stark axle]

i would use aurora-jhu-neb-seb-martha

[stark axle]

yes

[frozen cargo]

Bee so long since fighting Ginger in adventure. Mostly because O avoid 10 map like the plague.

Usually stick to 11 and 12. 9 is an alright map.

[stark axle]

in our guild we slowly grow so much that lots of players want to try the challenge of 13-10

bc the rest becomes a bit boring with times

[frozen cargo]

I like to play around with different paths for 12. But 10 is just annoying. Too much coordination required.

[stark axle]

for me, it also depends on the rest of the day. if i have time, then i go for it sometimes

[dense current]

can you beat all adventures with one person? or do you need teammates?

[iron nest]

we need teammates: 2 other players to get 4 chests

[loud aurora]

no❌ so you need to accept the fact that some of your teammates are trash

[dense current]

i have none :/

i'm the leader of an empty guild

[primal cedar]

sad

[stark axle]

leave it and join a guild with more than 20 people

[primal cedar]

what server is recommended

[stark axle]

the one you started at

you can only swap to older servers. there you face players that play for longer and thus are much stronger than you are.

so server hopping is only benefical once u maxed at least one totem and several heros to get into stronger guilds for #clash-of-worlds / #guild-raid

[primal cedar]

oh

[stark axle]

then, servers 19, 30, 46 or 12 have several good guilds.. but to get into those, contact them first. they never accept random newbies

for more details see the COW/asgard high score lists

but.. under 4M hero power and at least one maxed totem it does not make any sense

[primal cedar]

229 - All Consuming Darkness server

[stark axle]

lol

[primal cedar]

xD

whats wrongimma bout to jump from vip 2

to Vip 7-8 by tommorow

[stark axle]

so if u would swap to my server (#30) you would face players that play for almost 3 years

[primal cedar]

Imma pay to win this game

[primal cedar]

wtf

[stark axle]

im vip 6. i have 9 heros over 120k.

[primal cedar]

any tips what hero should I raise as main

[stark axle]

and you? not even lvl 130. u would not stand any chance here

[primal cedar]

started to play this game just a week ago

[stark axle]

dante is popular at the moment but might get nerfed in a few weeks

[marble oar]

why would he

[stark axle]

others are iris, ishmael, heidi, amira

[stark axle]

i heard new pet will block dodge

so that will hurt dante the most if he cant dodge anymore.. followed by aurora

[marble oar]

welcome ishmael opresive meta lol

[stark axle]

so, if someone starts just now i would wait what the new pet brings before leveling dante

[marble oar]

iris stil remains

[stark axle]

yea 🙂

[marble oar]

kayla prety good

[stark axle]

hm....

[primal cedar]

Kayla?

[stark axle]

has her uses, but not that much in endgame

only together with dante, so quite expensive

[primal cedar]

damn

so Dante is broken as of now

[marble oar]

i am talking what if dodge would be blocked

but as for heroes to invest

sebastina nebula celste iris astaroth/rufus

DPS wise ..

yeah dante is one of them

ishmael only if you plan to spend reguarly or big early

yasmine is fine too

[primal cedar]

imma level 53

[dense current]

i like using kayla bc she has high dps and she takes out the enemy back line

[marble oar]

lol jorgen tank

[frozen cargo]

You can get 3 chests with just 2 people in adventure 12, and you could technically kill the boss with just 1 person, but would be very difficult. Highly unlikely. Tower buffs get pretty rough the higher you go in adventure mode.

[dense current]

thanks!

i'm trying to get as far as possible by myself

[bright phoenix]

Kayla has this disadvantage as basic attacks are ~halfly directed to her and dante doesnt get so much energy from dodge at beginning

[frozen cargo]

8 i think is the last solo adventure.

[dense current]

thanks!

[dry sapphire]

that is a whale dante tho 💀

[gleaming sage]

is this team good enough to do ad 13 ?

[frozen cargo]

13 is not much harder than 12. If you are crushing 12, you can probably handle 13nwith a little practice.

[winter void]

How does control switfness work for Isaac? His autoattack is also +50% faster right?

As his skills dont really have cooldown so otherwise he dont benefit anything

[frozen cargo]

Does nothing.

His abilities are passive.

[winter void]

But does it work for autoattack? Someone claimed that it works for it

So the heroes who have that buff gain energy/charges faster, not sure if isaacs teslin gains charges from autoattacks though

[frozen cargo]

It does.

[marble oar]

i just put all on dante i am spender but not big

[dry sapphire]

if he get nerfed like his dodge stats removed aurora keeps her reign in best spammer

dante nerf is very near trust me

😈

[frozen cargo]

They could just drop dodge energy gain without Cain.

[stark axle]

mine?
im doing basically only 13s all year now, so i started much weaker than i am now.
my first 13-12 was like 1.5 years ago, back then i think i had 3 heros over 100k

for me, an 80k iris did the trick for adventure 13. since i have that, its no problem at all

she was the 9th hero i got over 80k

[outer zenith]

no luck with anything in combat training, went yolo, ended with a win, now waiting for portal anomaly to raid adv13 with all I have

[stark axle]

nice, how many do u have saved up?
i did like 21 back in the day or something

now with portal anomalie coming up even better 😄

[terse flame]

10/14...u gonna wait 3 more days?

[stark axle]

on a side note, adventures dont have asgard tree, so its a LOT easier than against maxed in CT...
also i wonder if thats really your first win in 13 with that huge dante..
you could have been quite a bit earlier (if your guildmates are also ready aka ur not top 2 in the guild)

[outer zenith]

i think my first 13 was more than a month ago now, raided it 69 times (hehe) but that 250% health heidi dorian sure wasnt there we managed for the first time lol, also went on to lose vs judge-darkstar today (it s always a judge lol) so i would have failed on that map i think

we only do 13-12 for now, our middle whale guy is really tight we have to have our amira guy do #18 for him most times

next step is 13-9 with good bonuses, but it had tank's last time i checked

[stark axle]

nice 😄

[stark axle]

yea, one at a time.
13-11 has easy static buffs tho 🙂
but middle needs to be a bit flexible, and one on the outside needs isaac to kill the boss

but if middle has heidi/iris its a piece of cake ^^

[outer zenith]

ill check 13-11 right now haha, i have a decent osh team (survives osh140 with axel)

[proven birch]

How do you tell which map Adventure 13 will use before joining/starting it?

[random field]

You see a little diagram of the boss

Today's diagram was Ginger

[proven birch]

Got it. Thank you.

[night perch]

Oh. Interesting. She had enough survivability by 80k?

[languid maple]

Hello is this the place for pet question? I just got my axel to blue, my 5th blue pet...should i get him to violet or keep building my main albus, who is violet, lvl 90..im giving the albus all the lvl up bottles atm. I want him to be able to one shot in the arena..now he can 2 shot most stuff... Celeste is in my arena team, however, and axel seems good for her. I use the albus on my Yasmine, and he make my Jhu useful sometimes.

[frozen cargo]

I feel that Albus is a 3rd or 4th priority. Oliver, Axel, Cain if you Dante. Others are good to get to violent. But focus should be on these for better survivability.

Though... A strong Albus puts down some serious Hurt.

Depends On your goals.

[stark axle]

yes, but big celeste and oli helped a lot as well (and focusing on iris health glyph, it was maxed at that point already)

[night perch]

my plan is next to max iris hp glyph. just finishing isaac hp glyph. : )

[silver fable]

need more player support for user interface, timestamp for the chat message, and an indicator cyrcle the player status: black offline , yellow online but not inside the adventure, green online and here in adventure.

• show the player joining time to, because here i am the second
• posibility to the player add a short message the adventure, that show outside too
• separated indicator in game when any interaction happened my opened adventure map, new chat , player join, player moving
• posibility when i am not in adventure, then get information if someone start a new map, and possible to "subscribe" for it indicators to get information when something happened inside: join a second player, or someone moving. possibility to "unsubscrible" it
• setup a minimal guild rank when someone start a new map, its later not modifiable, and only player for this rank or higher can join the adventure

[near radish]

joining time, player joining or moving are in log

[silver fable]

want to see all these on main screen, but the order number of connection is enough: 1, 2, 3

[quiet moat]

All my pets are now 3 stars

[near radish]

so you just reached about 5.7% of total progress in evolution...
less than 95% left to be done

[quiet moat]

I'm just happy that I did.

[near radish]

upgrading pets is very tedious, especially at higher ranks

and they add new pet in thursday

[quiet moat]

I still have time. Bemn playing on this server for about 3 months

[viral topaz]

Anyone knows, how much CPs we need to fully pump up a pet?

[gleaming ruin]

79450 CP's, plus the stones that cost 5850 if you buy them instead of getting them from adventures

[marble oar]

too much

[viral topaz]

Uffff Then i still need to pile up 10K more... 😵‍💫 . Though i have enough to max patronage already 😄

[gleaming ruin]

Bringing it to violet to unlock all abilities is just 8200 plus 2880 in stones. That's where I stop usually if it's not a priority pet.
By far the biggest part are the violet levels (maxing a single flawless stone is a whooping 6125 CP's).

Maximum you can get from a 4-box-lvl13 is 574 CP's (you never get that many of course 🙄 ), it's halved at lvl9 (max. 277), halved again at lvl5 (max. 134), down at lvl1 halved again (max. 65).

[near radish]

also in most cases you need only 1 side upgraded at max level which saves 14 650 gems needed for 3 gems you can ignore

[marble oar]

if vex replaces fenris in osh i kinda regret i put fenris to violet ;p

[brave galleon]

Did anyone have trouble getting through the adventures today? Because me and my co-guildmates easily closed the 9th adventure before, but today we had a hard time reaching the boss and couldn't even beat him

[near radish]

it just means bad choice of attacking teams

different daily buffs can change efficiency of some heroes drastically

[brave galleon]

Oh, thank you. It's just that this is the first time in a month that we haven't been able to complete an adventure and I didn't know what could be the reason for it

[near radish]

sometimes there happens to be really bad combo of team buffs and enemy teams

[marble oar]

yah

on higher advnetures control teams with control buff are realy nasty

[craggy axle]

nop now i only do adv 13 witk 500k+ team

[craggy axle]

use issac+mara and seb

[near radish]

just simple support hero attack +100% can be extremely nasty with some teams

[craggy axle]

today complete adv 13 with that buff

[near radish]

sebastian+nebula wit some physical dd combo literally means +80-90k PA, +80% crit chance and +192% pure dmg

[near radish]

just completed... it is map 12 so a lot of space for fails, but some nodes were a bit surprising

[craggy axle]

yep map 12 one lose

but my main damage dealer is dante 160k+ power

[near radish]

had to kill boss with #19 not killed...

my main dd for adventures is 152k jhu

[craggy axle]

adv 13 i have killed 2 bosses with 2 attacks 1.Orion and 2. Ghalad

[near radish]

my team against cleaver is

[craggy axle]

are you P2p

[near radish]

for orion in 13-11 - isaac instead of celeste, for galahad in 13-9 - jhu, baby dorian and whatever... everything except jhu will die anyways

paid some but mainly just valkyrie's favor

[craggy axle]

jhu is great for adv boss

[near radish]

osh team with some backup tank to replace isaac work pretty well anywhere in adventures - just adv12 and 13 phys resist nodes are some problem

[craggy axle]

my pets

[marble oar]

so its not just me htat galahad does absurd damage

in 13-9 i faced int once and got almost one shot

so for 13-9 use like jhu dorian fafnir etc ?

[near radish]

played longer, so have better pets:

[near radish]

i use jhu, dorian and whatever - just something in front of jhu so he can use his ult first time before all other heroes die

[marble oar]

ah ok

[craggy axle]

nice

[near radish]

and avoid using very strong heroes, so they die fast and don't help boss with healing

[craggy axle]

i will build cain mara first cain for dante mara for issac

[marble oar]

ugh

nthats not wise

[near radish]

oliver for isaac first

[marble oar]

mara only if you going arachne conotrols

you need oliver and axel for most of teams first

[near radish]

not only - sometimes is useful for isaac, but in most cases oliver is better for isaac.. and axel as team pet

[marble oar]

i gues could do without oliver in arahcne maya

[near radish]

mara is mainly against teams with iris and no seb

if there is also something like celeste to charge isaac

[craggy axle]

https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1697363714424610719

https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1697150826763435027

[craggy axle]

yep oliver is useful too

[near radish]

mara makes isaac's silence last longer
oliver makes stornger protection against magic dmg and faster charging of ult

[craggy axle]

also healing

[dull shoal]

Oliver gives armour and health, not magic defence. Yet it's easier to survive with more health and self-healing, no doubt

[full swallow]

not magic defense but gives higher magic damage absorption, so what they said was correct 😕

[near radish]

i didn't say anything about magic defense... i said protection against magic - isaac's green skill is based on his max hp

[frozen cargo]

However, Isaac green skill is not currently affected by Aiden health boost.

[loud aurora]

🥲 sad, bad luck

can see, 5 action points

[slow saffron]

pet

[gleaming ruin]

Opponents in lvl13 adventures are maxed out except the Asgard trees. As the artifacts will get 30 more levels soon I guess we'll meet stronger opponents there. Most of them are around 650k strength now plus their permabuffs.
Lvl11 adventure opponents are between 290k and 390k, lvl12 between 385k and 660k.
Let's see if it changes.

[stark axle]

thats not bad luck lol, looks more like ignorance

or was he at 350k power?

[tribal scaffold]

that is tarrows account

[gleaming ruin]

I have seen players fighting and losing against the same opponent several times, not changing their team and trying to deal physical damage while ignoring the 90% resistance buffs... sometimes you not only lose the adventure, but also learn why SETI is looking for intelligent life in space (and not on earth).

[tribal scaffold]

idk man my dante wins against 90% phys resist

[gleaming ruin]

If you ignore it and still win, that's great. But if you have lost the third fight and try it another time... that's what I mean.

[stark axle]

good luck in 13.. i have seen players doing those 'tactics' against 100% resistance

[tribal scaffold]

against 100% phys in 13… i still use dante because hes the only suitable tank i have 💩

use him to stall until my cel/lian can start working

[stark axle]

yea, i do the same with aurora against magic res

[gleaming ruin]

I've seen Dante fights vs. 100% physical resistance and still got the opponent down to minimal health, just because of the maximum health reduction.

[tribal scaffold]

i use dante to stall and then manual with cel lian once they have enough energy/health

[stark axle]

by now i just auto skip mostly

[tribal scaffold]

building corvus right now so maybe i wont have to do that for much longer

[tribal scaffold]

auto skip everything except phys res lol

[stark axle]

adventures get easy with time

[quiet moat]

30 cc away from my second violet pet

[quiet moat]

How many levels does this have

[stark axle]

25

[loud aurora]

gonna cost 25000cp for finishing this item

[near radish]

how did you get so high number?

it is only 79450 total for all gems on all ranks for single pet

[quiet moat]

Its actually 2400

[rose sequoia]

That would mean 250 upgs lol so 251 lvls

[golden abyss]

1 zero too many

[golden abyss]

💀

[frozen cargo]

I was expecting new equipment for heroes staging up to Silver +4.

[loud aurora]

my math

[loud aurora]

🤡

[topaz tiger]

how did amira ult so fast? i mean - where is "7 seconds" delay of her first skill? 🤔 https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1697597886829035303

[near radish]

1:39 cast, 1:31 explode, 1:22 cast, 1:16 explode... can't measure fractions of seconds, but it makes about 7 sec delay between casting and dealing dmg

[frozen cargo]

If she gets extra energy from Jorgen, Nebula, Alvanor... It might be faster to cast.

[near radish]

but it wasn't about casting - it was about 7 sec delay mentioned in skill description between casting and dealing dmg

[frozen cargo]

But, she also deals damage immediately if she casts it again

[near radish]

though there was no such case - dmg was always properly delayed in linked replay

[frozen cargo]

Absolutely no idea what is happening there, sorry.

I was thinking maybe faceless copies her, but faceless doesn't make a move. Heidi just eats 300k damage in a split second.

It seems she doesn't even use her ultimate until you lose Heidi.

Must be this skill

Enhanced by Nebula, that looks like it would hit pretty hard.

The buff of the day seems to be control speedup which reduces cooldowns by 50% but I don't think that has any effect on the outcome of your fight.

[near radish]

question was about this 7 sec delay mentioned in skill description...
it worked as described - ult was cast, waited 7 sec and dealt dmg... twice

[frozen cargo]

There is no delay in that particular skill.

[near radish]

just read ult's description

it is cast, waits 7 sec, deals dmg

final dmg is starting dmg reduced by dmg dealt by enemy during this 7 sec delay period

[frozen cargo]

Yes. And you see her cast ult and it is on delay before damage dealt.

The delay seems longer than 7bsexonds but I am watching it in slow motion.

[near radish]

8 sec on timer... but can't measure fractions of seconds from replay, so no precise times for cast/dmg delivery

[topaz tiger]

wdym? 🤔 1:39 she just gained energy and already exploded !

[near radish]

no.. it was some other skill, maybe even from different hero

if you look 2 sec later:

you can clearly see coins from her ult flying around your heroes - and only 2 MA buffs - one from jorgen and one from amira

those coins disappear at 1:31 with damage dealt to your heroes

[topaz tiger]

what hero? who

here's the result

[vague valley]

oh now i get it
enemy jorgen took steroids from neb and he has a buff from MA as well
and he might have stopped caring about md existing so he did full damage just because

now the why does amira get the damage is uhhh

amira stole jorgen's steroids

mystery solved because i dont wanna think mroe for today

[marble oar]

this will be even more ;p

[stark axle]

i think i win this..

because, when that ones done, 2 more follow

[near radish]

waiting for vex:

[marble oar]

yah and before i wil use great storm for pet souls will be long way

mah ...

you know that just means infinite money

usualy servers have 1 dude like that

[stark axle]

grey

the earliest of those on my server was in my guild later.. middle management in construction work, not a nexters employee

well the very first was just around for like 3-5 weeks

totally bad team, was like gala-artemis-thea...
then made a switch to old school karkh within 2 days, a week later he gave up

all of those r+2 ofc

met him in grand arena months later.. all those r+2 heros were around 60-70k, so totally empty besides rarity fare

[marble oar]

nah ;p we actualy didnt have one like that at start

[wooden stag]

me too lol

but still need to work on all other pets really

[stark axle]

@true gate will karkh become a marksman now?

making a marksmen pet and then including a warrior there

[dense current]

no, but his abilities target enemies that don't have to be on the front line, meaning that he deals damage from afar, which is what it says vex can patron for

[placid granite]

In general, the enemy team's power is around 650K for AD13. Regardless of team composition, what does our team have in order to win over a buffed (100% damage increase dealt) enemy team?

[spiral cedar]

for a second i thought that was all the heroes you had and i was...concerned

[stark axle]

any proper DPS around 110k with supports around 60 should work if u skilled well

[placid granite]

As the static buff is 100% attack increase, I am worried whether my team can survive during the battle. Health stat is very important in this case. How much health should my heroes have or what does the total team power imply enough health? I can handle the left or right route of AD13-12 right now but am not confident in doing the middle. 3 routes of AD13-11 (less difficult) have this static buff along.

[tribal scaffold]

if u can handle left and right u can handle middle easily too

[stark axle]

is this doable with a 950k osh team? (especally with the healing buff active?)

[frozen cargo]

Shouldn't be a problem. Their main dds ate magic. You will spam like crazy. Don't even need jhu

[stark axle]

yea a guildmate did it with no problem.. problem was the third (on the bottom) had a failed attack, so 4th box is still gone

good thing is, i was able to try something and learned that i can beat 300% damage buff targets at times

nothing dangerous there and nothing to lose, so i went for it

and go 😄

[terse flame]

cool, i got this one....

[livid niche]

yes, was reading a lot of back log

Was trying to find out if vex will be better than fenris for Jhu

also, how many cp needed to get Violet

[near radish]

https://hero-wars.fandom.com/wiki/Pets
8200 for charging gems and up to 2940 to buy required gems

[placid granite]

Is the boss of AD13-12 stronger than that of AD12?

[stark axle]

yes

but mechanics are the same, so its not making a big difference (its one of the easier bosses)

[dull shoal]

agree. One can even ignore a healing buff if having Celeste or Biscuit

[placid granite]

Theoretically, it should be stronger for AD13. After reviewing the log file (Damage Dealt Tag), the power of two Corrupted Cleaver are the same -- 112575. No change occurs for Boss Boost Buff. If I take down the boss in AD12, I will be able to take down him in AD13. But I never try the middle route.

[near radish]

there is difference, regardless of those numbers

though it doesn't do much difference if you proepr team

btw - it is my "tank" for corrupted cleaver:

[frozen cargo]

Celeste can yank a lot of stuff.

[near radish]

best tank for teams with damage dealers staying behind her as this boss doesn't really do focused dmg on tank

[marble oar]

hmm i have higher celeste and she was dying

when i tried him fight once without martha

celeste alone couldnt stay alive

[frozen cargo]

Lower hp means faster ultimates... Probably pushed jer out of a sweet spot.

[marble oar]

i dont know anything aobut sweetspot

celeste is already fragile as hell

[near radish]

axel patronage

and she is not meant to heal whole team - it is just a tank for beginning of combat and reduces boss' healing

i use martha or dorian as designated healer here

[marble oar]

ah

okay makes sense

i use celeste martha too .. tried without martha and it failed

[near radish]

my typical team for corrupted cleaver since about 550k total power:

[stark axle]

by now u could just use the osh team with a random tank infront of it

[near radish]

random tank or this celeste... but this one is just faster

orion has fast ult and each ult is 6 hits.... sebastian is just 1 more hit added to each jhu's attack

adventure boss has limitations - you can't kill it with less than 100 hits

[stark axle]

besides Ginger i do auto-skip anyway 😂

so it has to work, does not matter if it takes 30 seconds or 119

but ginger also worked with osh minus isaac plus aurora, so there i think i could do auto skip as well

[topaz tiger]

😯

[hollow bone]

did you win?

woah that's a really weird bug though

[frozen cargo]

That is really cool. I can't see Iris' souls anymore, but not being able to see your entire team is bonkers. Active Gaseous form

[hollow bone]

Yeah Iris souls disappear for me sometimes, especially when it's Kayla and she jumps around

[topaz tiger]

yeah, in the final seconds 🤬

[quiet moat]

First 4 star pet ig

[novel python]

I have started adventure 10 for the first time ever

do you think my team will be able to beat the boss in 1 attack?

@austere basin

[frozen cargo]

Depends on how strong your dante is. If you have a Donte with 0 skin, 0 glyph and 0 ascension, maybe not. But if you have invested into your dodge, there is a pretty good chance.

[novel python]

I have lvl 130 dodge weapon and max dodge skin

he should dodge a lot

[frozen cargo]

Then your only potential failure is if your damage is not good enough.

Me, I don't like Dante. I think he is a very bad hero.

[novel python]

I hope it is 😬 this adventure scares me lol

[stark axle]

10 is the worst, 11 is easier.. just hope for 4 boxes so that u can raid it in 3 days.. then u have 4/5 completed for the quest

[frozen cargo]

I dislike adventure 10 and by extension, 13 map 10. Something about needing to do it perfectly to get 4 chests.

[stark axle]

with that dante u should be able to do 11s next week

[novel python]

that is what I am going for, yeah

after beating it I'm just gonna let it sit so I can raid

[novel python]

well I didn't get to see what would happen because apparently the strongest player on my server is also an idiot

and wanted the glory for himself

so he wasted the adventure and killed the boss when I took the route that had the boss attack

(also he took 3 attempts because he didn't take out the buff decreasing damage taken by 90%)

so that was disapointing

I even posted his route TWICE in the chat and he apparently ignored it

what a waste

that has to be the thing that triggers me most in this game

especially because all 3 people were online at once so all he had to do was follow the route and we were strong enough to complete it right then and there as long as I could kill the boss

sorry bout my little rant there, it just gets on my nerves when people are such big whales that they don't care about others

on the bright side I can do adventure 11 now

[frozen cargo]

Post a picture of his defeats for public shaming?

No, seriously tho, that sucks. My guild typically uses the routes listed on Smart ones web site, but I like to deviate... I will do things differently but still get the 4 chests.

[stark axle]

hm, had that experience as well... 7M hero power, all (then available) pets maxed, all (then available) titans maxed, but no clue how the game works hes paying for..
when i told him he could just spend an hour to learn basics and then use that knowlege to save around 2000 USD, he said he does not have time and instead continued to spend like crazy with close to no benefit

[frozen cargo]

Knowledge is a deep void that can swallow you just as easily as spending.

[stark axle]

yea, but 1 hour basics never hurt nobody

[thick gale]

Today I used Vex with Jhu at the boss-fight at adventure #12. Contrary to various reports that the markers wouldn't work in boss fights, it seems that they worked here. 😀 https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1698224750525688473 They disappear fast, but when Jhu is in rage, they have no time to disapper 😁

[frozen cargo]

I think it is only Osh that they don't work, many other fights, just reduced time. I imagine that the bonus damage was pretty minimal? Like 200 extra per hit?

[thick gale]

My Vex has at the moment level 101 and is violet, power is at 69330. The stat tells me that the bonus damage is (at the moment) 1997 for each physical attack of each ally 🙂

[placid granite]

Which one is more cost effective to buy stones for Vex from Event Shop or from Sanctuary/Pets module?

[stark axle]

i divided shop cost / CP prize, so the lower the number, the better to get the stone from the event shop

higher numbers are better to get with CP

[placid granite]

The table shows the comparison among different stones. The higher Shop/CP is, the stone is more inclined to be bought from shop. For example, small duskstone is more cost effective than duskstone to be bought from Event Shop. But I want to know where I should buy. Maybe I should buy all stones from CP.

[thick gale]

I bought my stones with CP 🙂 But afterwards I had enough Essence Of The Afterlife to buy the stones from the shop. I didn't know that earlier and thought that I need all th Essence to bring Vex to 4 stars.

[stark axle]

do u know how comparative advantige works?

or i misunderstood your question... but if u wanted to know the most profitable thing to buy from the shop, the table gives u the answer

or do you mean SOUL stones?

those go slower then rank, at least if ur doing adventure 13s consistently

so push as far as u can with your budget there

[placid granite]

I want to promote Vex to Blue +2 Rank to get 500 Emerald Coins. Thus I have to decide where to buy stones for promotion.

[stark axle]

ok, that question is answered in my chart

you have all the data u need.. now figure out yourself so that u can decide on your own next time

[placid granite]

I don't know how to read your chart. Please tell me straightly where to buy.
Small Dusktone
Dusktone
Uncommon Dusktone
Small Nightstone
Nightstone
Uncommon Nightstone

[vague valley]

just buy what u need

[stark axle]

it lists the stones, and then BELOW the stone name lists their comparative value.
the lower that value (cost) the better to get from the event.

if u still cant read it, learn basic english and maths..
if u think u can do that, apply it also while not getting paid for it.. or play another game
or just get random stuff if u dont want to think.

[frozen cargo]

The decimals throw it off.

[stark axle]

im tired of doing the thinking for others. im OK with explaining things once. but not every day until i die

[stark axle]

multiply by 1000 😂
man

[frozen cargo]

I Was thinking, why are the numbers so high...

[stark axle]

i try to make it transparent 😂
now people are confused bc they cant follow

[frozen cargo]

It looked like 13,119,783,767... Which is 13 billion...

[stark axle]

if its all too hard for you: generally, low level stones are better to get from event shop.

[frozen cargo]

It takes a moment to figure out it is 13.1

[stark axle]

im not american, we use it vice versa

[frozen cargo]

Yeah. But the lack of extra commas was the factor that counted for me.

[stark axle]

this confuses me, but i have 2 brain cells to figure out what it means lol

[stark axle]

this is not #⚔guild-recruitment 😉

i play web, i just would like to know when u started 😂
my guild has similar stats, but we finish 5th in our leauge 😂
but i think we might be around for equally as long, so if thats the case, it would be nice to compare competition between FB and Web version

[fickle tree]

look like very weak server for being number 1 in gold and only top 140 cow

[stark axle]

yea.. if im right about the rate of new servers on FB, they shold have started around our starting date.. we are stronger against osh, aprox. the same in a more competetive COW and between 3 (if EVERYTHING goes right) and 6th in guild war

[fickle tree]

no new server for 17 months on facebook

[stark axle]

6th only if things go wrong and one of the whale guilds decides to give points away like the do this week

[placid granite]

Who can recommend a team to win over Chabba + Ishmael + Issac + Aidan + Dorian (Buff: 100% Physical Damage Resist and 100% damage dealt)?

[stark axle]

what do u have?

for me it looks like u need pure damage thats independant from physical hits, like iris/heidi

this one? it was the only loss in my adventure from today.. but u have lots of tries if everything goes right

this was his second attempt

[placid granite]

Over 70K power: Seb, Orion, Dante, Aurora, Neb, Issac, Iris, Heidi, Martha, Celeste, Jhu.

[frozen cargo]

What are the buffs? Tank or control and you're in trouble. Warrior physical attack or cooldown and you're in trouble.

[stark axle]

warrior swiftness and ssomething for marksmen

[frozen cargo]

Warrior swiftness is going to be trouble with Ishmael.

[stark axle]

heidi/iris sounds good

[frozen cargo]

Maybe not so much since you are also facing Isaac.

[stark axle]

well, its not ascended ish

and no crit buffer

and if the rest went well, needing 2 attacks is no problem at all

[frozen cargo]

Right... I always just assume ascension maxed out when I see Ishmael.

[stark axle]

its 2019 ish 😂
lame sitting duck

[frozen cargo]

I like Corvus for his pure damage retaliation. The more they hit, the more they eat.

[stark axle]

back to u:
aurora-iris-celeste-heidi-seb looks good to me.. play manually to keep celeste in healing mode to not get killed by isaac and u should be fine

[frozen cargo]

Celeste becomes vulnerable when Aurora is swallowed?

[placid granite]

How about OSH team?

[frozen cargo]

It is 100q Physical resist

[placid granite]

Jhu can deal pure damage.

[frozen cargo]

2% enemy health. Would need to hit 50 times each.

If that pure damage is counted when physical damage is blocked... Haven't checked in a while.

[stark axle]

jhu still deals damage

but ofc its not enough, especally if its 100% damage buff

seb does not

jet also not

[frozen cargo]

Nor Yasmine apparently

[stark axle]

yea, bc her pure depends on physical hits

[frozen cargo]

The funny one is Iris. Iris does pure damage for any damage done to the extracted soul, but if you can't damage the soul due to 100% resist, no pure damage done.

[stark axle]

thats the point. if theres a condition to pure damage thats related to physical, it does not work

[hollow bone]

no i think it works.... ?

[frozen cargo]

Nope.

[stark axle]

its logical, the resistance also affects the soul

[hollow bone]

this was adv12 90% phys resist. 🤨

[stark axle]

90% is not 100

the difference is HUGE

[hollow bone]

I know but dante should have done more damage then....?

[stark axle]

that team there would just timeout and die

[hollow bone]

have you actually tried that?

[stark axle]

sitting duck with jorgen as the only source of damage

[hollow bone]

ofc it would die on 100 but on 90 it works i guess

[stark axle]

i didnt but guildmates with no clue in my adventures did.. multiple times

[hollow bone]

lol, so iris actually doesn't work? i thought it did

[stark axle]

i have seen that maybe 40 times now

[hollow bone]

yes people will attack with dante yasmine sebastian teams its sad

[stark axle]

thats the knowlege jump thats between 12 and 13

[hollow bone]

does Iris soul count as an enemy? because only the enemy has the damage resist

[stark axle]

yes

[hollow bone]

i still don't get it i will try iris in adv13 🤣 and see what happens 🤣

[frozen cargo]

K'arkh teams, keira teams... So much physical damage to not be done.

[hollow bone]

keira pure dmg doesn't go through unless her physical attack does right?

[stark axle]

yea, keira also does not do any pure there

[stark axle]

yep

[hollow bone]

oof

[stark axle]

only excemption is galahad for no reason i think

[frozen cargo]

I usually run Aurora, Nebula, Orion when facing physical resist.

[stark axle]

but there im only 97% sure

[hollow bone]

lel

violet skill ofc

galahad op 💯

[stark axle]

i run aurora-cel-iris-seb all the time, 5th depends on team and buff.. might be karkh, isaac, heidi

[hollow bone]

They should add adventure mode to combat training so we can practice against buffed squads.

[stark axle]

they should add adventure 14 with maxed trees

[hollow bone]

maxed artifacts enough for now 😑

[stark axle]

and then 15 with maxed ascension on top of that and 16 with maxed patronage on top of that

[hollow bone]

💀

targeted for 🐳

[stark axle]

im no whale, im vip6

[hollow bone]

😱

[stark axle]

but adventure 13 gets boring

[frozen cargo]

My Iris is up and coming...

[hollow bone]

😦 I still can't beat it regularly also neither can my guildmates

at least secret wealth exists

[hollow bone]

can i have the items please?

[stark axle]

i mean i have guildmates that play as long as i do, are higher vip and have like 30 wins wile i have like 300 or so (maybe more, started doing exclusively 13s last year in december)

[hollow bone]

i'm kinda out of energy 😦

[hollow bone]

sad. instead of p2w it's pay-and-lose-anyway

[frozen cargo]

Until you pay the right amount...

[stark axle]

hm.. yea
i prefer not-pay-anymore-and-win-as-much-as-u-can

success is also a question of perspective.. top 50 arena? success to me 🙂

[frozen cargo]

For every 50k spender in Hero Wars, I laugh... That was basically lowest level whale in Diablo Immortal.

[stark axle]

ooof

[idle egret]

no cause iris does pure as well....

[near radish]

sometimes adventure combos are just great:

[frozen cargo]

I have seen some unique teams. Someone out there puts them together for sure.

[near radish]

it is not about unique.. but combo 100% phys resist + isaac can be a bit challenging

[frozen cargo]

Also Rufus.

[near radish]

i prefer rufus - easier to deal without strong pure dd

[tribal scaffold]

mayhaps heidi

[drifting pasture]

I am leveling Chabba

[golden notch]

Wait how much did people spend on that game lol

[hallow pulsar]

481 dollars

[terse flame]

R we comparing lowest hero power for red heroes? 🤣

[terse flame]

Too much

[outer zenith]

what team do you run for galahad boss in 13-9? we all failed there, got it killed cause my jhu is small enough to end up invincible the whole fight, but one day I will want to level him lol

[terse flame]

U can do Arachne for stun, Yasmine so he doesn’t target main team, or just use all 6 attacks to get him down

I actually dun change teams for boss anymore

[outer zenith]

welp our whale sent yasmin dante jhu and got cooked

[terse flame]

I use same team for all AD nodes….regular ones and boss fights 😂

[outer zenith]

what s that team :p

[terse flame]

I run Dante tank team for physical route

But I think today’s Galahad is a little tougher…my guild mate took 3 tries to kill it

[outer zenith]

why? he has no buff

my 180k dante got cooked as well

[terse flame]

Cuz I am too lazy to switch teams 🤣

[outer zenith]

no i meant why galahad is harder, buff is actually marksman

[terse flame]

https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1698425027532484121

He used the same team 3 times

Hum, u r right….shouldn’t be harder

Not sure, since I didn’t get to attack the boss today 😂

[outer zenith]

red+2 dorian 😲 yeah I'll have to go for something else haha

[frozen cargo]

Specifically Iris. Mine is growing in power as time goes on.

[hollow bone]

yayyyyyy 😄

[full swallow]

nicee

dante will be pleased

[hollow bone]

yeah

no way lol

almost 700k power

[near radish]

this, plus 2 random fillers mostly some low power:

dorian to make it easier to survive when jhu get's stunned by galahad's attack, thea to get some extra speed boost when jhu has low hp, 2 low power fillers in front of jhu just to delay damage to him and let him use first ult...
and everything other than jhu has to die as fast as possible so they won't provide any extra healing for boss

[marble oar]

13-9 galahad is a monster he has 500% dmg buff

its the hardest 13 boss .. 13-12 cleaver is nothing comapred to that

[frozen cargo]

Watch out for yank 300% buff on top

[marble oar]

i hear that buff doesnt buff boss

since its a different type

[frozen cargo]

I always assumed it did. No easy way to test.

[stark axle]

osh team with aurora instead of isaac..
or just do jhu+dorian (only those 2 to not give him anything to heal on)

a smaller guildmate used a sub 100k jhu and a dead dorian to kill it

he also used yas, but it was killed fast

[frozen cargo]

I like yasmine as well.

[stark axle]

oh wait, its not sub 100 anymore lol

[fleet iris]

Maximum buffs

[frozen cargo]

Officially my lowest power red hero. Sure, it could be a lot lower, but I wasn't aiming for 0 investment... Now, next step is to hard dedicate all my investment into this chum.

[terse flame]

Darn u won

[marble oar]

yah i had red orage + 4 50k + faf before too

but its 89k red now so not too bad

[stark axle]

nice

i only have 9 red and they are all over 110k lol

no mini reds anymore

[near radish]

for me it is usually at least artifacts maxed long before hero can evenreach higher o

[near radish]

just 10 eggs opened for season task

[frozen cargo]

Nice. I love the bonus stones returned, can spend em on daily chaos particles or pet potions.

[dry sapphire]

only 2 heroes in game can spam this much aurora and heidi but heidi might not last bc of hp aurora on top fr!

[frozen cargo]

Alvanor spams a bunch, and Celeste in the right circumstances. But mainly Aurora. Also... Oddly Nebula spam. That gets pretty funny.

[silver fable]

trully need something improwement in this gamemode. first, show each player moved path

[dry sapphire]

yea i meant dodge specifically

[frozen cargo]

Still really funny to watch Nebula spamming ultimate. A bunch of slow moving projectiles flying through the screen.

[fleet iris]

Hi all, just sharing the paths I made for Adventure Map 12 (Adv 12 and Adv 13)
https://imgur.com/a/VvxnYUw

[frozen cargo]

Nice. Can you post it as an image? I don't like links.

[fleet iris]

ok

There's a bit descriptions in the link though

[frozen cargo]

I am a big fan of the one where mid line goes over the top. Gets 3 chests when the side lines are afk.

[fleet iris]

Yeah. Definitely when playing with newbies

[marble oar]

well its good if you have strong diverse team for both damage types

[frozen cargo]

And no Gotcha teams...

[fleet iris]

Playing in manual helps. I like to keep the 300% damage buff from the top most eye of herald so that my heroes can charge energy faster and kill it in 1 go. I need 2 attempts otherwise with my current hero power

[marble oar]

i always play manual i have dante team but i have big celeste, but if celeste dies i am screwed

or rufus

[fleet iris]

I use a 60k Yasmine to cancel Cleaver ults everytime

[frozen cargo]

Does that work? I like to have Dorian in back just to get dragged forward.

[near radish]

in 13,epsecially with 300% buff, baby dorian cannot suvive

[fleet iris]

Karkh Yasmine Celeste Faceless Martha - Axel

[frozen cargo]

That tank buff can be pretty devastating. Aurora, Galahad, Chobba...

[fleet iris]

only my Karkh and Celeste max

martha and faceless 2x speed combo

[stark axle]

adventure chat when everybody knows what to do 😂

[frozen cargo]

Who killed the boss?

[vocal plume]

wolf is my guess

[stark axle]

no, i did

john did right side, i did middle with also helping left, so that wolf had a lot left and finished at #11. so he just went right to finish last optional spot

[vague valley]

yeah u are a wolf - the lone wolf

[frozen cargo]

Bad Wolf

[stark axle]

orca

[fleet iris]

https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1698754923764369062
This how you use Yasmine in adventure

The same can be done fighting the other Bosses

[frozen cargo]

Axel?

[civic robin]

13-10 Solo 🙂

[stark axle]

we really need adventure 14 at this point 😂

[gleaming ruin]

That means all heroes maxed including Ascension skills, plus at least one permabuff for every station?

[iron nest]

I will save portal mail and open when adventure 14 come out

[civic robin]

That team worked very well.

Dante is completely max. The other ones miss their red artefacts.

The buffs on the way to the boss are not so difficult.

[gleaming ruin]

All on auto or manual play?

[civic robin]

auto

[gleaming ruin]

grats, I'm far from this strength

[stark axle]

nah, i would do (and suggested several times already): #14 with maxed tree, #15 maxed ascension on top, #16 with maxed artefacts on top, #17 with maxed patronage on top

[stark axle]

nice team, thanks for sharing 🙂

[gleaming ruin]

And what rewards did you propose?

[stark axle]

i dont care as long as its more CP 😂

[gleaming ruin]

If you can win a #17 after your definition there's not much you can do with CP, because you have maxxed everything by then.

[stark axle]

i dont think u need that kind of strength to do that

i started doing 13s with 2 red+2 heros

1 hero around 100k

rest below 80k

[gleaming ruin]

Then you probably didn't go vs. Galahad.

Map 12?

[stark axle]

yea first few have been 12 only

13-9 a bit later, dont know how strong i was for that

but that boss is very doable manually

so my first time there i did most of the boss

with a 72k yas 😂

[marble oar]

wouldnt he one shot yas

[stark axle]

no

if u time it right, he never ults

no ults = no oneshot 😉

[tribal scaffold]

adv 13 is quite easy

bosses are easy to manual too

these days i just bruteforce it with dante but

[hollow bone]

🐳

[quiet moat]

300% magic and Phisical attack boost

[drifting pasture]

U should be able to get Heathrowe in adventure...

[frozen cargo]

What is that?

[fleet iris]

Yeah adv13
https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1699023475030166503

[drifting pasture]

You should invite some of your guildmates to help you unlock the other 3 chests!!!

[random field]

When amira gets 100% of the damage 😂

[frozen cargo]

Amira is scary. Lilith can drop a nasty hit as well... But mostly Amira.

[hollow bone]

😭 amira blew me up twice yesterday in 13-12

because mage energy gain +100%

But, we still got 4 chests because guildmates are amazing 😄

[tribal scaffold]

dang

i just dante - neb - jet amira these days

one shot

[hollow bone]

uhhhh my neb is 50k and jet is 20k

Uhhh i'm still working on iris

uhhh you are a whal and you've been playing much longer than me so

[golden notch]

thank you, it is done. it is joever.

the increase is astronomical

[frozen cargo]

[golden notch]

yes, cain carry now lol

[copper isle]

great storm boss

[frozen cargo]

Hehehe... Markus

[heady flax]

its just multiple eyes and tentacles wtf

[river monolith]

Wow...also your team is strong

[frozen cargo]

I will be trying the Osh team today. My guild always says they use it. I usually throw in other heroes. Alvanor, Maya, celeste... Usually takes me 2 or even 3 tries depending on how much resistance.

[river monolith]

I use Galahad (tank), Maya, Keira, QM and Dorian. Need two or three attempts though

[copper isle]

SR 190

[vague valley]

i used isaac iris dorian heidi martha at 205 for 2 atks

[wet jungle]

Keira

[tough apex]

Hmm, the pets and war flags are really positioned badly when you open the heroes. instead of putting them under the heroes so we can see less heroes. On the right or left side of the heroes would have been better, that way we wouldn't have lost functionality when we want to go to our heroes.

[frozen cargo]

I felt the same way. Although not the end of the world, they do take up a lot of space.

[vocal plume]

it's absurdly wrong-sized

[full swallow]

fr

[frozen cargo]

I like how Markus continues to move around after he is a ghost.

[stoic latch]

dumb newbee question: does raiding an adventure get you the buffs (for Champions Season)?

[fleet echo]

Yes, basically.

[stoic latch]

are you sure? I know it gives all of the chests, but I don't think it gives ANY buffs.

[full swallow]

raiding an adventure is equivalent of completing the whole map by yourself

so you get all the buff spots, all towers, etc

[placid granite]

Please build up a team to win over Maya + Arachne + Heidi + Jorgen + Chabba with one attempt. Buff: 100% Physical Damage Resist, Damage Dealt +100%, Skill cooldown (Healer) -50%, Energy Gain (Control Hero) +100%.

[frozen cargo]

That looks nasty.

[tribal scaffold]

nasty

but you can just use solo lian

@placid granite

[placid granite]

Do I need to invest much on Lian?

[tribal scaffold]

about 100k should do it

[placid granite]

Can Khorus as team pet help?

[tribal scaffold]

no not really

[frozen cargo]

Khorus would give some protection from Arachne, but 70% isn't a guarantee.

[tribal scaffold]

why need worry about arachne when shes going to stay charmed

[random field]

Shared from guild discord, 195 storm one shot:
Crazy healing needed. No idea orion was even useful vs this boss 😂

[tribal scaffold]

oh yeah orion is pretty useful in storm

especially with dorian

[last patio]

where do u get flags

[frozen cargo]

Do you have Champion season active?

[grizzled perch]

Galachad incoming

[frozen cargo]

Sorry... A tough team indeed. At least you don't have Corvus instead of Cleaver.

[tribal scaffold]

just dante iris dorian

[vocal plume]

🍻

[torpid crystal]

I need a way to block LGMs from joining my adventures.

I mean I thought if I clicked on them in the log and selected BLOCK, I was doing it but then I realized that I was just cutting chat (which is pointless), the hard-core need is to prevent them from srewing up my efforts at farming. 😐

[frozen cargo]

Just do private adventures and only invite approved guild mates.

[vocal plume]

Make your adventures private and only invite ppl you approve

[winter void]

hey is the adv 13-12 boss with tank energy gain and +300% tank buff doable with just normal 800k dante team with one shot?

or would something else be better

[frozen cargo]

someone was saying the bosses don't get the buffs... I don't know if I believe it... But you can get up to 6 attacks vs the 12 boss if you organize it right.

[winter void]

yes there was one attack left

and had to actually abandon 4 chest because of crazy galahad in phys resist node 😄

400k health aurora wasnt quite cutting it. he kille whole team with one ult anyways

I know for sure that 11 map orion gets the mage buffs.. He is really crazy with mage buffs

I mean if someone doesnt use Isaac to take him out ;P

[terse flame]

Map

[pastel roost]

True ... i lost to it in 13-12 too

[gleaming ruin]

13-12 boss is easy going, no matter which daily buffs he has. I don't even use a tank.

I don't think it is much of a difference compared to adv12.

[loud aurora]

what's your team?👀

[terse flame]

u can beat it with pretty much anything....i use dante tank, too lazy to switch teams

[loud aurora]

thx

[quiet moat]

Does Cain's bonus dodge depend on Skill power or Patronage Power?

[full swallow]

all of that is in the patronage tab

so, patronage power

which you'll get from right side stones, level and evolution

[frozen cargo]

Bonus dodge is skill power. Bonus energy is patronage power.

You can turn on more information for skills in the city menu. It explains how the value is calculated.

Only says what it is based on... While this shows what the actual calculation is

I guess either version will say skill power or patronage power... But I prefer the calculation. Why a non calculation version exists? No idea.

[full swallow]

they were talking about the bonus patronage stats

[frozen cargo]

So was I.

[stark axle]

to keep people who dont care in the dark about game mechanics and make them waste money?

[gleaming ruin]

Yasmine with Albus, Dante with Cain, Keira with Vex, Celeste with Axel, Jhu with Fenris. Team pet is Albus.
After one minute the boss is down. The Vex debuff does not add up as the boss debuffs vanish after 50% of the time, not enough for Keira to add the next one before the previous disappears. And Celeste provides by far sufficient healing, 50% of the time she operates in damage dealing mode and prevents Cleaver's healing.

[frozen cargo]

Keira does add 2 vex huffs immediately though which is nice. I believe Jhu also adds 2.

[quiet moat]

The only reason I didn't lose to Amira here is BC of Maya's Mag Defense Artifact.

Also how come adventure 11 is so much easier than 10??

[frozen cargo]

They got lazy with the maps.

[near radish]

not exactly easier

adventure 10 is only one with no single failed attack or mistake allowed

[terse flame]

Mistakes r allowed, if u can beat the buffed locations…

[stark axle]

yea, but only for another player 🙃

[terse flame]

Yup, only for mid. It’s likely they mess up by not seeing the PA resist ( yes I did that lol)

[stark axle]

i once was able to beat the buffed location only for the second-biggest player in my guild messing up the routes and missing once...

so only 3 boxes.. was my only serious go against lvl 13-10 so far and i dont like it

just asked him about budgeting in the recent event.. he spent more emeralds there within a week then i spent in the whole 3 years of playing 😂

[terse flame]

this red artifafct is making the game extremely expensive to play....

[frozen cargo]

The big bundle from emerald coins isn't even that many artifacts. Enough to maybe max one hero. Maybe

[stark axle]

they still wont see any money from me....
i just ignore PVP modes now

[terse flame]

lol

[stark axle]

i do osh now, rest i dont care anymore

[terse flame]

i had to buy last event....$30 for an absolute totem of choice is too cheap to pass up

[stark axle]

last time i spent money here was over 2 years ago...

and totems dont help me, my titans are still useless crapp even if i would get 10 fragments for free

so i just ignore them

[silver fable]

this time I only do private mod the only way for do map, to prevent lowers and/or long not responsive players(long than 1.5 day) ruining my progress, but need improve the invitation mechanism.
In the window show the players 3 columns the first for the available players second the already invited , the third inside in another map or no have map charges.
Need a new mark on players "Trust" can set only inside the adventure, decide the player real performance, this mark not a block only upper the player upside to the regulars.
The players in columns orders show the Trusted players on top.
When start doing a Private map and You and the other player marked Trust together:
The other trusted players see Your started a new private map, but can not Join its only information useful to know to not starting same time different map the trusted players.
Inside the map the trusted players can invite players that no have map charge or inside another map. Its useful when first player begin the map early and the second more late reason for daily quest revard or incoming map charges that happens different time zone.
+1 in invitation window show the player heroes team with power number that actually use or used in last map. and in invitation window the second order is the player heroes power
This is, the Adventure do to for all loot box is real problem for many player - please do it something - pleASE! ‼️

[placid granite]

AD13-9 Boss Galahad, what team is the best?

[vague valley]

jhu + dorian

[near radish]

can reinforce it with baby thea and some heroes in front of jhu that can delay boss a bit but not to much

[placid granite]

Do 50K Dorian and 75K Jhu work?

[vague valley]

dorian not the issue, violet enough.....not sure about jhu but u wont know until u try 😛

[placid granite]

How about Jorgen?

[vague valley]

doesnt really do much

or u could use the interrupt trick 🤔 , like ulting ur yasmine just when galahad about to ult

[placid granite]

Can 30K Yasmine go to the back of the Galahad and still survive?

[vague valley]

No 🥲

[frozen cargo]

Private mode, yes. But also, no need to have trusted marker of you just know your guild mates and who is reliable. Kick people who don't jive with your guild. No sense keeping bad players. Glare

[silver fable]

i advertized the situation on guild chat, but not i am the guild leader

[frozen cargo]

Complain directly to leader. If they don't fix it, then you are in a toxic relationship and should leave.

[hazy mural]

I had success with a big Dante and timing Dante's ultimate to interrupt Galahads main ability

I think I'm lucky I've never have a weaker player join my adventure in current guild

People just do what adv they're comfortable with

11-12 and I assume there's ppl doing 13s but with.private adventure

I did a few 13s public and only people I invited joined anyway( and it was open for awhile too)

[terse flame]

Today's.....bottom route so no 50% buff

[hazy mural]

Im kinda surprised, I thought adv 13 would be harder tbh

[terse flame]

The resist nodes r harder if you use the wrong team

[hazy mural]

I've just started adv13s and I literally just check every node on the path I'm going to take

Just incase there's some brutal node I don't think I can beat

I think the only one I won't bother with is adv 13-10

Everything else seems fine tbh

[placid granite]

Where is the 50% buff? I can't find it.

[near radish]

middle path

#16:

[frozen cargo]

Why do these buffs exist? Who ever takes the non 50%

[loud aurora]

it more like a bug or something

[near radish]

only first player can get 50%... others need to pick worse ones

[frozen cargo]

Right. Who else passes through that buff alter?

[near radish]

nobody in commonly used paths for 4 chests... not sure if there is any possible option to get 4 chests with more than 1 person going through this node

[terse flame]

There is. The bottom player can

Since he has 3 extra moves, technically he can get that buff and still have 1 attack against the boss

But makes more sense to have 2 extra attacks at the boss than only have 1 but 20% buff

[near radish]

in such case - there is an option to get 20% by strong middle and leave 50% to weaker bottom to let him clear towers in certain situations

very rare but there is some logic in it

[silver fable]

☕ morning, where i see that the started Adventure is in private mode? i started but before i dring morning coffe, and i dont remember, because happened in a half woke up period

[mild remnant]

hey guys!! tell me plz - do "1" and "2" give approximately equal amounts of points? Or does "1" give much more points and you need to focus on them?

I understand that this is team work and all that, but it looks like something went wrong with the first participant) and this is only my second time playing on difficulty 7

[terse flame]

Every nodes give 20 pts

[mild remnant]

👍

[near radish]

including boss - anything you fight is 20 for kill

about focus - eyes give buff to linked nodes and usually you want to kill them first to remove buff before killing buffed node

[mild remnant]

thx @near radish@terse flame

[mild remnant]

Hi all! are there any recommended paths for 3 heroes in adventures? I'm interested in the distribution in adventure 7..
something like

1. 8-5-4-2-...
2. 10-21-33-...
3. 9-1-16-...

[near radish]

https://hero-wars.fandom.com/wiki/Adventures

[mild remnant]

Thanks a lot ! Looks like there's a lot of useful stuff on this site, not just adventure paths! 😅

[terse flame]

pretty sure some still use the Adventure map on this site.... https://www.smartones.solfors.com/

[mild remnant]

thx!

It’s strange that this is not here either in pinned messages or in #📖hero-wars-basics. I didn’t find this information in other channels, but maybe it’s there somewhere

[frozen cargo]

Yeah, smartones is nice, they have go ood maps there and only one of each adventure. You can find many different maps on the wiki, but having only 1 map helps with avoiding confusion.

I like to go off script though...

[terse flame]

i followed Smartones map for all AD except for AD12. there r other routes for AD10 that includes 1 failures, but have to beat buffed locations

[gleaming ruin]

Does anyone know how many chaos particles you can get from box 2/3 in adventure lvl2 and lvl7? I need that information for an overview. It might be 18 at lvl2 and 44 at lvl7, but I'm not sure about this.

[stark axle]

that map 😂
there are both faster ways to do it and there are more efficient ways 😉

the only advantige is it gives room for everyone to fail more than once....
if ur save to go with 1 fail or less, its bad bc its slow.

[cinder fulcrum]

Sorry, wrong chat 😄

[stark axle]

if u dont have even strength, u might want a different map which allows for one very small player, if the others can go with no fails/1 fail max

[cinder fulcrum]

I know, we use spiral, it was for a friend of mine, because the orange player did that and we were forced to use it

[stark axle]

i dont even know if the layout i use is somewhere on the internet.... it allows the second player to kill the boss with one spare move and without having to kill a buffed target

and player 3 needs to do like 7 targets or so, very easy

all u need is player one being able to go left or right without fail.. but even if player 1 fails, player 3 just does one extra on the other side, no problem..

but i didnt fail once in 13-12 this year i think, so thats not really needed

[terse flame]

The rule is, always do the highest adventure you can get 4 chests on, or if you can get 3 chests 2 adventure higher. For ex., 3 chests in AD7 is better than 4 chests in AD5.

[frozen cargo]

I am unsure who I want to upgrade. Merlin would be nice, Mara could use some love too. Should I bring up Fenris further? I use him on Sebastian in most cases these days.

[terse flame]

Biscuit?

[random field]

Fenris for the AP stat, especially if you use Ishmael. Axel maxed is also a worthwhile investment

In my experiences, sebastian enjoys oliver or albus on him the most (oliver to resist dante's spears, albus for potential damage increases)

Mara is a beast when max patroned, allowing fafnir to stun for like 8 seconds, arachne to stun for like 15 seconds, and lian to infinitely charm teams

Biscuit only needs to be violet to perform at it's peak, unless you specifically want the patronage stats.
Merlin is ok, but usually outclassed by Khorus, axel or biscuit for mages

[frozen cargo]

Is Axel's skill power important enough to prioritize? Same with Oliver, Skill power more important than the other pets? I was thinking Mara, but wasn't sure if better than added stats for Sebastian.

[gleaming ruin]

That's why I'm asking here. I need the numbers for the statistics and I don't want to do such low adventures myself to find it out 😜.

[quiet moat]

First time taking down a no mistake psth

[silver fable]

i forgotten in morning set private the adventure. many problems, and the third player again stopped the work
1 show the instance private mode inside
2 if not private, the creator have abbility to switch to private
3 remember my last private setup, if it private the next time game set the private checkbox to true

[vague valley]

In your opinion, net of the most common buffs.... what is the power needed to approach adventures 11 and 12... team Martha Jasmine Julius Celeste and others available...? Are there tables on the web...?

[random field]

Axel's skill power, probably, although axel's skills are hard to notice tbh.
Oliver not so much. Oliver is only a team pet in small scenarios

[quiet moat]

For adventure 11 I can do everything with 410k power

You just need at least one hero that's above 90k

For example My aurora, with patronage, is 110k. All the remaining heroes are 60-55k and axel is 70k

[vague valley]

Thanks for the reply 👍

[dry sapphire]

once in a while moment

[frozen cargo]

How? How would Martha ult that frequently? That is 14 times in 9 seconds?

Is this just an interface glitch? Makes for an interesting picture.

Way back in the day, the buffs would go across the whole screen instead of just your half. Made it confusing when both teams ulted enough to cross their buffs like building a bridge of bonuses.

[near radish]

ginger's ult is multiple waves of bullets - it can trigger such amount of ults when team uses aurora's atifact weapon buff to dodge all those bullets

[tame rampart]

Best hero's to use against Adv. 11 boss. My Dante/Karhk team is ineffective. The rest of the team is Asta, celeste and Nebula. Thanks!

[frozen cargo]

If you use Isaac, Jhu, Nebula, Sebastian, Martha, it usually is good enough.

[near radish]

orion - best counters are isaac or satori

[frozen cargo]

Rufus can be very helpful as well... But I suspect Isaac is the most common hero for them right now.

[tame rampart]

Thank you all! So, OSH team, or add in orion. Working on my Rufus, so he's too weak I think.

[obtuse cairn]

hello, help, i need the good wal for the aventure 12 ! thanks

et en français ça donne: je cherche les bonnes routes pour finir l'aventure 12! merci

[stark axle]

in 12 there are a lot of possible routes, because its symetric

which one suits u best depends on your strength.. are you quite strong and need a fast one without waiting, or are you quite weak and need a safe one?
and also, how strong are your guildmates? if everyones quite weak, u need a balanced one where everyone has spare moves. if 2 are strong and one is very weak, u can make the third route super short (but the others both have to make 15 perfect hits)

i use this one more or less.. it allows to kill the boss with only 2 players, nobody needs to wait and the third player has a short route

to kill the boss with 2 players, #2 also needs to kill the tower on the right side

this one works if the 3rd player is super small but requires more waiting for each other

[frozen cargo]

I go how I feel, but I am not usually the first one. If i take a side rout, i pop into the middle to take two points and help whoever gets mid row. But usually take the top most buff in the process leaving one uncapped point on my side. I expect the other players can manage with the extra moves they get by not having to cap top buff.

[stark axle]

if im not the first, i allways do middle, bc there u need to be flexible and not all guildmates are

[hazy mural]

For me it doesn't matter much for 12 since most of my guildies are at least as strong as me and the ones who are around my strength are usually more flexible than me anyway

But for 13 I always go first and choose the easiest(with no Phys immune) path

[terse flame]

Eventually you will have teams for all paths

[hazy mural]

Slowly working my Heidi up for that reason

[frozen cargo]

I had a guy stuck vs the 100% physical resist on 13-12. He attacked 5 times using all physical, he couldn't figure out what he was doing wrong. He realized it was physical resist and he brought Iris for the last 2 fights... But Iris does physical damage... So he still failed to kill that team.

[hazy mural]

Yeah I couldn't beat the 100% Phys immune on 13-10

Cost us 4 boxes 😔

Only time I haven't gotten 4 boxes in adv 13 so far

I actually was planning on avoiding 13-10 but I didn't realise it was 13-10 because I made an adventure the same day earlier

And buffs were exactly the same(visually(

But it wasn't the same

The day had ticked over and it was 13-10

It had warrior+ healer buff instead of marksmen+healer buff

But I was tired and didnt realise

[frozen cargo]

Must have been a shock seeing the 10 map.

I remember doing 13 before I was ready... Just hit start and was like Whoa... Not doing that again any time soon.

[hazy mural]

It was, I was pretty annoyed tbh

We would've gotten 4 chests still if I didn't fail 2 attacks

[near radish]

it is why you should develop habit to always look at map not buffs, especially if your time zone makes different hours for personal and guild day reset

[hazy mural]

It was specifically because I had a good map+buffs 2 days before

And then what I did was once I finished my map that day

I just created another adv with same map and buffs for next day

But didn't complete it til next day obviously

And I kinda forgot I had done that

So I was in a hurry to open the map so I could do the same thing but forget it was already 2nd day

[stark axle]

my mate Siri invented a new route 😂
just power thru buffed teams and u can make it even easier with no waiting

[iron nest]

I went to that route today, too

[dry sapphire]

tyhe boss had a 300% dmg modification

76k martha

from my knowledge ginger shoots a round of 15 per alt

[idle egret]

The lower martha is the more damage she gets the faster her enrgy builds up the faster her 250%speed buff gets in place... and the rest is history

[dry sapphire]

exactly

some said i photoshop

[idle egret]

wonderd why the question... thats what martha does... they all seem to think people use her only for healing... i mainly see her as a speed buff..

[frozen cargo]

She heals?

[idle egret]

also yeah

[dry sapphire]

fr i put celeste to heal bc ginger break marthas tea pot

[frozen cargo]

I use her for speed and armor buff, i never get that many ults though. 3 or 4 maybe, but that is basically 1 every 0.3 seconds.

[idle egret]

nobody uses ginger

[dry sapphire]

vs d boss imean

[frozen cargo]

Ginger is like Keira only gives enemy more energy and has no mitigation such as Keira's Silence.

[idle egret]

i bring martha in ..specialy vs boss fights

[frozen cargo]

Ginger does sit behind Nebula though, could make some interesting builds using her. Maybe Ginger, Nebula and Isaac.

[dry sapphire]

na keira way better ginger is walmart version of kera

[idle egret]

Yeah she can heal allright lol

[dry sapphire]

celeste 21

[frozen cargo]

Celeste makes sense. She Ults twice per one Martha, sits further forward, does damage with her ult and heals with her ult. She ults constantly, it is kind of funny. Alvanor also ults a bunch when tanking. Aurora, Celeste, Alvanor, Orion... I expect them to ult a lot.

[idle egret]

the portion martha heals is bigger then celeste anyways...

[dry sapphire]

but u could stop martha's heal but only another celeste can counter celeste's heal

[idle egret]

bs bro....

[dry sapphire]

elaborate

[idle egret]

martha always heals even when you block.. cant block all healing ... and the short period of time martha heals she heals alot.. sure you can take away a big portion of it ... but her speed and armor makes up for alot of BS people trowing over martha about her.

[dry sapphire]

nah martha has so many counters a lot of them honestly i could mention but ill give 2 good ones aurora bc she spams her tea pot b4 it could do any heal at all and cleaver basically ggs for her self explanatory

that alone makes her compete side by side with thea

if her tea pot cant be broken its diff story all together

[torn meteor]

hey @idle egret should i evlove my small julius since i got the GP for him or just sell the 341 ss i have for him for 1.3 million gold

[dry sapphire]

but ur right herspeed and armor makes up but we're talking about her healing capabilities

[idle egret]

like i said you cant block all healing and aurora doesnt take away all of it...

[dry sapphire]

ill asure u 90% are self heal

send me the link for the fight

martha does over 200k self heal per attack

[dry sapphire]

if u talking about self heal then its hard to block that on her

[torn meteor]

trust me her heals are not 90% self heal most o it went to isaac Dante and aurora

[dry sapphire]

nah i need a link to believe why bc aurora has 3 abilities that does aoe dmg if she died then yea

[idle egret]

You can only block the entire thing when aurora+celeste stays alive ... but that didnt happen...

[torn meteor]

Depends on the damage plus she has a cain patronage meaning that she dodged about half of the time

[dry sapphire]

there u go @torn meteor

[idle egret]

its not tha we fight allone with martha... her friends still aside working their butts of to get the job done...and i still prefere martha in my physical team over celeste.

[torn meteor]

tho i myself have a team that normally ends a battle before too much healing is done unless rufus is the tank

[idle egret]

that doesnt mean celeste is bad.... she just cant be used to full potential in there

[dry sapphire]

100% u cant go wrong with her

if u do aurora tank then celeste is a must

cause her healing sync's with aurora's hp going lower

[torn meteor]

can she be used to her full potential in a team with dorian and martha as the main healer and her as the damage dealer

[idle egret]

yeah then its no a physical team anymore so you see...

[idle egret]

celeste is not thaaaat great in DD to put 3 healers in there .. but by all means try it cause i never done it before

the game evolved in iris being everywhere where i look.. and you might adore aurora but she is a weak tank when it comes to taking that amount of pure damage from iris

[torn meteor]

well Iris and Celeste shreds tho

[idle egret]

not about that now is it?

[dry sapphire]

all tanks are except rufus tho

[idle egret]

problem is aurora provides almost nothing to the team only dodge... cant dodge pure so goodbye tank... all god vs physical but other then that ...naaaa

tank heros need to protect --->give armor.

[dry sapphire]

this is so funny😂

what tank in game can solo satori other than aurora?

is he a physical dd?

[torn meteor]

true

[dry sapphire]

wrong

she excels well vs magic teams too with rainbow hallow

what dont yall understand 🤣

[idle egret]

we dont fight solo bro.... i get it you like aurora the most i respect that .. but i had a aurora acc.. and boy i lost many times just cause she cam short ..

[torn meteor]

Aurora dies first in every max test i do with her in the defense team so Crazy-Jhu is correct

[dry sapphire]

🤷‍♂️

[idle egret]

she is still a great hero though

[dry sapphire]

okay then we can agree on that

[dry sapphire]

aurora looses very very fast vs iris hands down not much arguement on that

artifact weapon also good vs pa

but not on magic so ur right

[idle egret]

hey bro not every server is build the same in hero teams... for me aurora is a no go on my server..

[torn meteor]

she loses pretty badly to heidi and jhu as well but that is more up to RNG than anything else

[idle egret]

dammmm surprised here

[near radish]

why? what is strange hwen you use superbooster against isaac?

[dry sapphire]

aurora and dante is a no no in same team

@torn meteor this a solid jhu team right?

[near radish]

aurora/celeste combo against isaac tanks is suicidal move

[torn meteor]

I would use rufus or corvus

[idle egret]

dont tell the fella that .... is a win for me lol

[dry sapphire]

okay

[drifting pasture]

Martha is the best healer for new players simply because she becomes effective at a low level. Most of her skills don't rely on her having high magic attack, so you get a lot of value out of her very early on.

[torn meteor]

tho my main team is this @dry sapphire

[drifting pasture]

Once you get to higher levels (120k+) then other healers catch up and each becomes useful in different situations. Thea is great vs magic teams and Dorian is part of the lethal HID Dante counter, Celeste is the best healer for dealing damage also.

But most people don't want to invest in multiple healers early on, and Martha is decent in most situations

[idle egret]

dorian very effective when he gets his violet skill...

[dry sapphire]

this mine

[drifting pasture]

Don't use a tank with Dante unless you are going against Iris. Dante as a tank would probably win that battle for the team on the left

[idle egret]

i am the winning team bro lol

[drifting pasture]

oh lol, sorry, then you shouldn't be surprised!

[torn meteor]

what server mine is 90

[idle egret]

i wasnt really lol... was a lil sarcastic..

[dry sapphire]

37

[dry sapphire]

my alt acc has same thing

[drifting pasture]

Oh ok. Well, Jhu + Seb is always a little saccy because it's so much crit hit. But yeah, when they nerf their Dante like that you should win every time

[torn meteor]

what patrons i am max testing it against my GA teams

[dry sapphire]

heidi counters aurora 😄

ish as back up

this for patronage

[drifting pasture]

yeah but do you really NEED to counter tanks? I mean, if you have a magic team you have to do something about Rufus, but otherwise? Tanks aren't really a threat, they're just bulk

[stark axle]

if there is corvus as tank, it can also have some impact...
the only 2 tanks that are "just bulk" are asta and ziri really.....

cleaver can be used against himself, same with galahad or luther

[drifting pasture]

oh yea I forgot about Corvus, we don't have a lot of them on my server.

[dry sapphire]

@drifting pasture 🤷‍♂️

[drifting pasture]

But nobody I know is like "oh, dang, that Luther team, how can I get over Luther?" Or Galahad, or Cleaver, or Chabba, or Mushy, or any of them. Even Corvus is still just someone players will usually just try to beat over rather than use a tech

[torn meteor]

@dry sapphire my main vs ur main

[stark axle]

well there are 4 good tanks in the game..
aurora, corvus, rufus, asta...
rest i agree.

at my level, if u just ignore those 4, u cant win.

[dry sapphire]

yea maxed testing but if i was attacking u got no seb so 1 alt and ur trapped by jorgen and its ggs 😄

[drifting pasture]

idk, I stopped investing in Asta a long time ago. I can see his value as a tech move to protect your counters from getting 1-shotted but that feels more like a support hero than a tank to me (I guess he IS a support hero, technically, so maybe that makes perfect sense). Rufus and Corvus yes, both have excellent uses. I feel like Aurora's niche is just too narrow these days since you can't really use her with THE dodge hero. I would use her with HID if I had her but is she really a game-changer in that role? Idk. I just don't have the resources to invest in tanks anymore so I kind of have to learn how to play without them (which isn't hard)