adventures

[terse flame]

Wats AD12? 🤣

Web?

[magic beacon]

Yep, alll acc are WEB

[terse flame]

We almost switched to W65….end up moving to W64 instead

[terse flame]

Yeah that’s pretty low

[terse flame]

Is there a guild called Guild in ur server?

[magic beacon]

Gold and SIlver, they are from sv 6X (I don't know)

[magic beacon]

What is their Rank in Guild War?

[terse flame]

Gold

[magic beacon]

There are no Guilds with the name you mentioned

[terse flame]

My guess it’s the first guild (German one)

[magic beacon]

Yeap, they are German, but we don't like that guild (Not their Rank)

[marble oar]

yep yep passed once adv 10 and raided it 4 times ;p

[magic beacon]

mine

[marble oar]

i will for sure stil run 9 a bit especialy for safety for events like great storm but trying 11 a s much as i can

[magic beacon]

I opened 4 chests today in adv12, so I stay in adv12 3 days, then I leave and raid

[terse flame]

No AD13?

If u can run 12 that many times, u should be able to run AD13-12 map

[stark axle]

i was trying to tell him that. problem is he spreaded too much

he has 18 heros more or less usable. i have only 9 but they are all better than his third

despite only starting 3 months earlier - but im doing 13s on a daily basis since over 6 months now and got the frame for 15x 13 like a year ago

ok, just checked, its 15 months since my first adventure 13 now

[stark axle]

safety will only be relevant this week for great storm.. i think 3 boxes in 11 are still better than 4 in 9

in 2.5 to 3 months ur closer to 12 than to 9

i mean i did #11 262 times, but that was prior to asgard.. its all faster nowadays

[terse flame]

Asgard makes AD13 even easier now

[stark axle]

if u get 3 portals from mail per week, thats like 26 weeks aka half a year in 11.
so by the time the next storm comes, u should be halfway to being strong enough for 12

[stark axle]

yea i dont know if i could do it without asgard....
maybe some days, but not all of them

[marble oar]

yah i know, i meant 4 chest for great storm yeh

[stark axle]

for that i just keep 3 portals in my mail

[rose sequoia]

What is this?

[vague valley]

HWA

[frozen cargo]

Oh? Didn't that get restricted?

[random field]

CMs are fine with HWA

It is HWS that they cracked down on, along with the massively starred post: #⭐starboard message

[odd steppe]

WTH

[terse flame]

with the right team, u can get 1st place, as long as there r no one to fight you during ur RT

[bronze wharf]

how is the difficulty of adventure 9, can i do it as soon as i reach 100?

have 200k power dante team

[near radish]

you can try though most recommendations i seen say 250k

[bronze wharf]

well i calculated with pet, my dante is 59k without pets

makes sense

[marble oar]

top route wil be fail

at the end its heavy magic team

[bronze wharf]

it can't kill it fast enough?

[marble oar]

nope

[stark axle]

but its the adventure frame. u cant enter adventure 13 if ur not lvl 130

[terse flame]

yeah realized that...thought thats the arena 1 frame

[topaz tiger]

i hate this game so f🤬 much

[frozen cargo]

Plenty of frustrating moments like that. But plenty of clutch wins too. Corvus is full of them.

https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1683615956603370006

[grizzled pelican]

what is the best guide for adv 7 ?

[stark axle]

grow, focus and comunicate
its the first where u need to talk if u want 4 boxes and keep your sanity

its really there to teach u talking

[grizzled pelican]

i mean best strategy like how to get the 4 boxes ? since there is alot of points

[bright phoenix]

what do you feel for such result in A13? 🙂

[near radish]

https://hero-wars.fandom.com/wiki/Adventures

[frozen cargo]

To get to the adventure maps you need to scroll down to the picture section. You can usually find multiple plausible maps available. There Is no correct choice. My guild uses a group called smart ones, they have a site that has one map for each adventure. It might not be the best map, but it is convenient in the fact that there is only one path listed. No need to say specifically John's variant number 6 with the orange, blue and purple routs.

[near radish]

single map available has own pros and cons... most important pro for multiple map is you can pick one that works best for given teams available

not so important for most maps though.. but in case of adv 12 and 13-12 it canchange very much

[frozen cargo]

I find that once you understand how maps work, you can adjust to choosing your own path. 7 is a good example for sure.

[stark axle]

i like that in 9/13-9 the map changes depending on who makes the first move.

sadly not all of my guildmates understood that so far, so they waited for me to give the routes.. when its really first one moving decides

[frozen cargo]

12 has a lot of leeway and variety in which paths to take

[stark axle]

yea, there ur most flexible by far

i usually open with a route that allows second player to kill the boss without waiting for third

[frozen cargo]

Is nice to kill boss like that. Sucks when you lose along the way.

[stark axle]

i usually check if i have trouble somewhere and if i have i alter my route for safety

i think this year i didnt get the 4th box once.
and that was in 13-9 with one of the others failing like 4 times so one tower stayed active against the boss with 95% damage reduction

the other player also lost on his way and then also attacked the boss with 2 towers active instead of waiting for player 3 at least kill one of the towers, so we had 2 attacks on a boss with 95% damage reduction

[outer zenith]

where can you see these stats? 😮

[terse flame]

hero wars assistant

mine.....and my pets r still so far away......

[dreamy violet]

How did he get that frame and he is only level 121

[terse flame]

no idea.....u should ask him lol

i thought that was the arena 1 frame....my fault

[frozen cargo]

Which frame?

You can get the arena frame real early if you are lucky enough. Getting it later is more difficult. Getting it a whole lot later might not be as difficult if people stop caring.

My high arena score was 19 back in the first few months of my server.

[rose sequoia]

Some guy got the a13 frame at lvl 121

[frozen cargo]

Interesting. I thought level 130 was required for 13.

[rose sequoia]

It is

That's why we're mystified

Maybe avatar/frame shop?

[frozen cargo]

Perhaps when max level was 120?

[rose sequoia]

Was that a thing?

[frozen cargo]

A long time ago. So would need to be on server 50 or lower.

[terse flame]

Was this from TOE?

[odd steppe]

CoW

[placid granite]

How do you take down the Storm Boss with 39 action points? Please recommend the strategy (pick which buff) and one team?

[cinder fulcrum]

Mmm.... 39 action points means MAX 38 spot taken (even less because you'll need AT LEAST 2-3 attacks for the boss) before the boss... it means 190 storm resistance (probably less)
Boss storm power is 250... this means 6% health loss per second (probably more) to each hero and too much boss resistance
Maybe 39 aren't enough and you should concentrate on finding as many chest as possible
Unless your main team is very well developed and damage dealer focused
I did it with 49 action points and still needed two attacks to the boss, and my team is daily top 50 in arena

[vague valley]

dont do the map

let all the action pt get converted to legacy chests when event ends

[placid granite]

Can you show me your team?

[rose sequoia]

Why Celeste and Cain?

[placid granite]

What buffs do you suggest to get from 3 Altars of Power? Or give up all of them?

[rose sequoia]

Depends on your team probably

You have to be a little more specific

[cinder fulcrum]

I took the first buff of the first and third altar. Ignored the second altar. My team is more physical damage

[placid granite]

Which one is the second?

[cinder fulcrum]

Most right in the map

[placid granite]

For the first buff, what do you want to increase, armor? Or the other two?

[cinder fulcrum]

I took attack

[rose sequoia]

Your patrons are a little strange but CNO is a solid team

+ + + + is probably better patronages

Problem is that your Aurora needs Cain

Idk what Celeste should take there, if we want Martha to have patronage (which is not really necessary) then Cel gets Biscuit or Khorus probably

Nebula doesn't get a pet because Aurora needs Cain

Orion probably wants Merlin or Mara

[placid granite]

What is CNO?

[rose sequoia]

What you use

Celeste Nebula Orion

You're bookending it with Aurora and Martha, I know Aurora is good idk about Martha tho since you already have Cel

@vocal plume don't you use CNO or KNO or smth?

[vague valley]

he uses KNO but he has big celeste iris heidi too

[placid granite]

What does "idk" means?

[near radish]

I Don't Know

[vague valley]

u dont know ? 🤣 🤡

[rose sequoia]

Idk stands for "I don't know"

[vague valley]

much better haha, couldnt resist cracking that one earlier

[placid granite]

Merlin, Mara are green. Khorus is white. I am afraid tank may be killed so I usually patron the tank by Oliver if possible. If the enemy has Kayla, Oliver will be transferred to Martha. Nebula is designed for Cain. Then Biscuit goes to Aurora. If Cain benefits Aurora more than Nebula, next time in Adventure, I adopt your advice. Orion has been killed by Cornelius so I used to put Axel to protect the main damage dealer.

[rose sequoia]

A lot of this makes sense, mainly your biggest problem is that your Aurora doesn't have Cain. Cain is what makes her (and all the other dodgers right now) very good

[vocal plume]

I use KNO and CNO

[placid granite]

Which team do you prefer to battle storm boss, the Aurora team or Isaac team?

[placid granite]

What does K of KNO stand for?

[near radish]

keira

definitely not great choice now for new team though she works pretty well in already built teams and all necessary stuff she require collected

adventure 13 perfect loot vol.2:

[rose sequoia]

🤷‍♂️

I think either one is probably fine as long as your storm resistance is good

[rose sequoia]

Keira

[placid granite]

What figure of storm resistance is claimed to be good?

[cinder fulcrum]

I won it in two attacks at storm resistance 230... Usually 210 is considered safe to win in two attacks... Less than 200 can be a problem

[rose sequoia]

If you have above 150 storm res you're probably fine with a Jhu like that

The rest of your team might die tho and it might take multiple attempts

I use 3-4 attempts, I main Jhu and I usually have ~120 storm res

[frozen cargo]

So, just opened 90 pet soul boxes for Oliver, so close to absolute star, only 120 more to go... I noticed i have 12 pet eggs, Oliver is the grand prize today, what irony if i get him...

[rose sequoia]

🤡

I'm jealous tho

Also the GP of the day doesn't seem to matter

[frozen cargo]

Every time I get grand prize, it is correctly listed

[rose sequoia]

Some people don't tho, I think maybe it has to do with drop rate?

[frozen cargo]

No idea.

[marble oar]

i got it correclty

[near radish]

i got useless merlin on axel's day

[terse flame]

someone complained here before, getting incorrect pet of the day

[terse flame]

i'll take ur merlin.....

[frozen cargo]

I got Merlin on Merlin day. I wonder if it has to do with the guild day reset? Like maybe for a few hours, the wrong pet is displayed? I won correct pet after guild reset before daily reset.

[cold dew]

wow, happy 4 u

[flat quest]

a guildmate whale didnt follow the path and now im trying to see if there is a way to beat the adventure with 4 chests...

im thinking about doing something like this, but are there better solutions?

[frozen cargo]

Forge your own path. Like Charlie says at the beginning of the great storm video... 1,2,3,4, 4 moves to get to the boss.

[near radish]

actually you can forget about killing boss with 2 towers active

damage increase buff on boss can be bypassed with jhu... but dmg resist will prevent you from kiling boss

[viral topaz]

I can see a way. I will draw the routes for you a bit later if you still need them

Indeed you need all towers dead to kill the boss, but thats possible. But you must not fail any battles.

[frozen cargo]

I don't see a way to kill towers and get 4 chests. Either kill vs 2 towers, or suffer three chests.

[viral topaz]

According to my maths there is a way. But i will double check it

[frozen cargo]

Need 14 nodes and the boss to get 4 chests. Only have 12 moves, 6 moves and 3 moves to pull this off.

[near radish]

and need 4 out of 6 and 6 or 8 out of 12 just to kill towers

top path - can kill 5 nodes but no boss attack and no single fail allowed
middle path - 3 boss attacks, 0 nodes other than boss possible to kill
bottom path - 8 nodes possible to kill with 12 moves but no boss attack and no fail allowed..

so without single fail on top and bottom paths it is possible to kill 13 nodes + boss from middle path... total 14 nodes = 280 points

only way to get enough points would be solid jhu in middle player team AND both towers at bottom path with dmg increase... but one of them is resist so it needs to be killed

[frozen cargo]

With right buffs, you can kill a buffed Galahad.

[viral topaz]

@flat quest here is the solution

red and blue need to take one extra nod each, and then middle guy has 3 hits for the boss

no, sh.t,,, still only 3 chests

[near radish]

and it is what i listed - 5 nodes on top, 8 nodes on bottom and 1 boss

[viral topaz]

and thats only 14 😦

[near radish]

jhu can kill buffed galahad but only if it is damg buff... resistance makes him deal to low dmg to beat his healing

only way to get 15 is to leave both bottom towers alive... and it is to much to kill boss

[near radish]

<@&729965095974731787> scam alert

[ornate lantern]

bye bye 🔨

[rose sequoia]

Ilysm Calvin 😔

[outer zenith]

is it ever a good idea to sell flawless pet stones? i m just getting my first adventures 10 in, and I still have three pets to level to violet, then at least two to violet+1, I'm thinking i ll farm tens of them before they even become useful am I thinking right?

[rose sequoia]

I wouldn't sell them

[near radish]

adventure 10 isn't one ppl do on regular basis... in most cases it is complete once, raid 4 times to celar quest and then either go straight to 11 or get back to 9 until ready for 11

[outer zenith]

yes but by the time i get to violet+2 pet, i think i ll manage to collect some more of these stones, i raid it 9 times and got 6 flawless dawnstones...

[rose sequoia]

Just leave it

[outer zenith]

ok ok i ll listen to the old folks :p

what power would you recommend for adv11?

[rose sequoia]

Depends on your team and how the power is concentrated

Maybe distributed is a better word than concentrated

The squads in a11 are around 300-350k power I believe

But around the boss, the squads have 150% health buff or 80% pure damage resist

Health buffs are to the left of the boss and dmg resists are to the right

[outer zenith]

ah, i play dante iris, 105k and 40k, i usually go the magic resist route when there s one

got some baby jhu that may like the healthy ones but he already dies in adv10

[rose sequoia]

Dante tank?

Just show me a screenshot of your team ig

I assume Cain on Dante regardless of his position

Axel team pet

Seb and Martha should probably be on that team

Neb/Faf for the remaining slot

Or the tank ig

[outer zenith]

you re assuming correct with a 40k rufus that saved me a few times

my favorite guildie plays amira lian so he s been taking care of physical resist until now

[rose sequoia]

Patrons switched on Rufus and Martha there

Put Iris back probably

Altho idk who she would replace, I'm inclined to say Rufus but idk if your Dante can handle that

[outer zenith]

that s my arena defense line, been working better without iris but she grew a bit since then

[rose sequoia]

He probably can, just don't do it fighting Celeste or Satori and such

[rose sequoia]

This is probably powerful enough, you might have to change out Iris and Rufus depending on opponents tho

[outer zenith]

nice

[livid niche]

To claim success in adv 10, do you have to get min 3 chests and boss, or min chest and boss?

And if raided after, do you get only what was got in it, or full amount of chests?

[marble oar]

to raid you need 4 chest

but to claim success you ened to just beat boss

[long turret]

what happened

[rose sequoia]

Idk lol he just fixed a problem

[livid niche]

in adv #10 double buff on 31, how strong of a team required to win with double buff on it. Is it easier than double buff Boss fight?

[near radish]

you can safely assume 3-4 times stronger than required for unbuffed node will not guarantee win

also it depends on buff type and it's synergy with enemy heroes

[livid niche]

Thanks

[near radish]

unfortunately it is hard to just tell - for example magic dmg defenders often can be neutralized with isaac even with dmg increase buff but dmg resist on some dodge team will make it nearly unkillable...

[livid niche]

Just had lvl 116 try to help, so will write this one off probably. Then I will test my limits.

[terse flame]

I usually still use Aurora and Celeste, but instead of twins, I use iris Jhu…..iris is great vs. those magic resist nodes

[near radish]

but question was about 2 eyes active - and this can produce wide variety of effects depending on defending team

[terse flame]

I think depends on buff and energy team…there r no 100% correct answer

[near radish]

and it is what i wrote.. but with 2 active it is safe to assume about 3 times stronger team required for decent win rate

perfect counters will work at much lower power but still - if enemy gets double dmg increase buff it can be difficult to survive their attacks... or deal any dmg if they gget double resistance

[near radish]

i really hate it - 2 accounts and both with similar results today:

[lilac bane]

what adventure?

[rose sequoia]

Honestly I could use the pet pots and eggs but for you I can see how that's frustrating

[near radish]

13 ofc

[vocal plume]

12s have been better than 13s lately

[near radish]

2 raids more.. even more potions instead of some eggs and no single cp

[lilac bane]

ah IC

[frozen cargo]

Now that i've gotten all pets to 130, I find that I get a lot more potions than I used to. Chaos is what I want, and all i see is a useless potion.

[full swallow]

welcome to the club

[loud aurora]

no cp is the sadest thing ever

[viral topaz]

Then wellcome to my world and please star this up.

[patent lagoon]

In the tutorial, I used all my action point. And Valklie won’t move.

I can’t do anything in adventure.

What should I do?

[frozen cargo]

If you used all of your actions, you can leave adventure by clicking "Log" and leave adventure.

[rose sequoia]

I don't think you can leave the tutorial

The acc might be ruined lol

[frozen cargo]

Dooooomed!

[near radish]

it is known problem - if you click anything other than you are asked for in this tutorial or just klick random things starting fight and lose all several attempts available on fight - you get locked there

you can only contact support at this point or start new account

[frozen cargo]

Have you tried closing the browser, clearing Cache and opening again from scratch? Or does this bring you back into the tutorial?

[near radish]

you are locked in tutorial - currently there is no way to reset it without support help

[lone heath]

Trying to invite guildies to my adventure, why would it say a person has 'adventure not available'? They are above the party level, and it's not a problem of portal charges or being on another adventure, as those show differently.

[cinder fulcrum]

Maybe didn't beat the previous boss yet? Or are you try to invite them to adv9 that require team level 100?

[lone heath]

I was inviting to adventure 7. I'm only level 92 myself.

[near radish]

most likely they didn't complete previous adventures yet

[small fable]

Does anyone know a way to get passed someone in the adventures that is out of action points?

Lost against the boss and someone still with action points cant get past and i cannot move out of the way

[rose sequoia]

Dropbear can just fight the boss

They just need to use one action point to move where you are rn

Then use one to kill boss

There's no problem with you and Dropbear being on the same place, nothing is blocking him from fighting

It's just that if he loses, your whole gang is out of action points and you have to quit the adv

Also I'm pretty sure you only need 2 people for that adventure or something

[small fable]

he is getting a message when he tries to move saying its blocked

[hushed wave]

there is a buff there

have him click on that one then on the boss

[small fable]

ahh that makes sense

[rose sequoia]

This is the 2 player route, you still get 4 chests

[hushed wave]

also what server are ya on?

[rose sequoia]

He has claim buff from the altar of power first

It's where you're standing lol

[small fable]

i will get him to try

[hushed wave]

if you can one-tap the boss yea

[rose sequoia]

It's pretty easy isn't it?

[hushed wave]

yeah but as you can see they couldnt

[rose sequoia]

Well they're like brand new and clearly didn't have the best coordination

[small fable]

yeah i lost and the boss only had like 1mm of health bar remaining

so its not that hard for a first try

[hushed wave]

jeopardy music ensues

[rose sequoia]

I'm just confused why they didn't do this at least, how did the lvl 46 guy end up where they are 🤣

[small fable]

yeah for some reason that guy went 2 middle and one bottom

[rose sequoia]

Like 1-3-6-3-1-4?

The #s of the squads

[small fable]

yeah he must have

[rose sequoia]

🤣

What a silly goose

Maybe tell your guild about solfors, it has all the daily gifts and adv maps and stuff
https://www.smartones.solfors.com/#

[small fable]

awesome thanks i will let them know 🙂

[stark axle]

@true gate @heady ridge @quick arrow here comes my next try to suggest adventures 14 to 16.
for 14, add maxed asgard tree. for 15 also add maxed ascension on top of that. for 16 also add maxed pets including patronage.
14 could have same rewards as 13, just better drop rates for CP.
15 same drop rates as 14 but more CP.

if drop rates are fixed somewhere deep in the code, ofc just lift the rewards, no need to make it complicated.

[rose sequoia]

But why

[stark axle]

with asgard stuff, PvE things are getting easy/boring and the drop rates are just frustrating. so it would be nice to have a new challenge with better rewards.

[rose sequoia]

I think all we need is a14, ig you can increase the challenge but just get rid of pet pots

Like we get a14 which is the same as a13 but no pet pots

And maybe you can make it a little harder who cares

[stark axle]

im not sure if changing drop rates is as easily doable as we imagine.. we will see if this gets onto star board.

[vague valley]

Already been asked many times 😖 I hope they do add them to the game though

[stark axle]

like i said, my next try 😂

[rose sequoia]

Just take pet pots out of the thing

I don't think we need so many new advs, just one where there are no pet pots

Maybe a15 with only CP but idk that seems broken

I don't think they would do that

a14 with fewer/reduced pet pots seems nice

[vague valley]

It's not just about pet pots, it's about making the adv a bit more difficult and fun for the stronger/better players.

[rose sequoia]

Easy sounds fun

I would like a13 to be easy

Right now it's too hard and my team keeps dying

So I can't use my 120+ portal charges saved up in mail

[vague valley]

Lol I just auto adv 13 battles using a 550k-600k Asta-Karkh-Jorgen-Faceless-Martha team

I think it's a bit more than 600k now though

[rose sequoia]

Don't you have a close to maxed Dante?

What if you lose the battles lol

[vague valley]

153k with pet patronage and that's on another account. There I use Aurora-Jhu-Neb-Seb-Martha and auto the battles instead.

[vague valley]

Usually don't. If I do, then I change a hero or two and play manual for that node and then go back to that old classic team.

[rose sequoia]

Ughhh why can't I winnn

😩

[stark axle]

anything works in adventures..
just get stronger

also its about prioritizing
if u have a 550k karkh team where karkh is the weakest, ofc u cant win with that (exaggerating)

but once u have your DPS over 100k and some synergies in the team its doable

[rose sequoia]

I'm having trouble getting stronger you see

[stark axle]

yeai i know, vip0 struggles.

[rose sequoia]

I have Jhu at 130k and Seb at 90k and Cleaver at like 80k and Neb at 70k and Martha at 70k

My Axel is kinda crap he's like 80k

Albus maybe 70k?

Dorian is maxed Violet skills so I use him

Isaac is around 50k but not usable in a13

[stark axle]

get neb to 90k, then seb beyond 100.
why cant u do 13s with that, seems good enough by far

[rose sequoia]

Idk my people just die

Literally like enemy Neb is a problem

Just buffs her team mates and they kill me lel

[stark axle]

show your pets.

[rose sequoia]

I can get through a lot of a13 but when I get into trouble it's no bueno

I can't beat a mission and I get stuck

[rose sequoia]

Ah wait no

My pets are ||pethetic||

[stark axle]

there u have it.

[rose sequoia]

Get it

[stark axle]

u need focus there, then move to 13

[rose sequoia]

No they're not that bad dw I just have 120 portal charges in mail

[stark axle]

are u among the 3 strongest in your guild? if not, ask the 2 strongest to carry u to 4 boxes in 13-12. then use the portals to get proper pets. afterwards no carrying needed

[stark axle]

and that IS bad.. u dont even have any pet at lvl 130

that would be good with one year of playtime i guess

[rose sequoia]

Ok but I don't think I can 4 chest myself lol

[stark axle]

i know u took a break

[rose sequoia]

Idk how to get them at 130 bro

I have no pet pots

I'm pet potless!

[stark axle]

u litterally only need to win 7 fights

on red route

[rose sequoia]

Well compare to heroes tho

[rose sequoia]

Wait fr?

What is this witchcraft?

How is this possible?!

[stark axle]

routes made with brain cells.

[rose sequoia]

🗿

Ok anyway yeah let me do that please

I can probably do that

If I have to win 7, that means I have 2 attempts for each (which I don't need)

[stark axle]

it requires a lot of waiting, so in my guild we usually dont do that anymore..

[rose sequoia]

Let me look at the permanent buffs on the map

[stark axle]

for the red player, there are no hard ones

[rose sequoia]

Bruh there's not even the 250% health buff that's usually there in a12

Ok this is mega easy imma call up the folks

Tysm bro

[stark axle]

that map got me the frame like over a year ago 😉

from there to 13 daily it was another 7 months for me.. at your slower rate maybe a year, not sure

[rose sequoia]

What a G you are

I heavily appreciate this witchcraft

[rose sequoia]

Well after 120 portals maybe is faster

[stark axle]

yea, hope so

good luck next 13-12 day

[rose sequoia]

Ty lol

Maybe I pick a day with good buffs for me too, like support/marksman/healer

[stark axle]

support/healer is more important for u than marksman, as jhu does not profit that much there

neb/seb/martha are much more important

imagine healer attack + support energy gain.. nebula will be a monster

[rose sequoia]

Support energy gain is what I usually go for

My Seb has just over 50% on Violet so instant ult

[stark axle]

dont do instant, wait until he reached his final position

[rose sequoia]

Actually with Albus patron maybe he has a little more

[rose sequoia]

Why?

[stark axle]

if u do instant, u mess up the timing for his 2nd/3rd

[rose sequoia]

What timing?

[stark axle]

and also if enemy team has kayla, he gets murdered

[stark axle]

timing with abilitys that have a fixed timer.

[rose sequoia]

I give up against Kayla, the backline just dies

[stark axle]

like battle song

[vague valley]

Yeah, it's better to wait for Jhu's skills to get turned on asw

[rose sequoia]

Martha changes that tho

[stark axle]

u have martha. should not be that way

[vague valley]

so he has increased speed and PA along with an increase in crit hit from Seb's arti.

[rose sequoia]

Whatever yeah I won't do instant I just thought it would be faster bc he's spending less time levitating

[rose sequoia]

She dies bruh you want me to give her Oliver?

[vague valley]

lol Martha doesn't do much for me against Kayla, especially not with those 100% dmg buffs

[rose sequoia]

I mean honestly Jhu 1v5s half the time

Esp in a13 it's just dead game except Jhu forgor 💀 to die

[stark axle]

i mean for PvE u would have been MUCH better off leaving jhu around 110k and then get the rest up

so that they also survive

my top 9 are all stronger than your second best

by points.. so kayla isnt even a problem if i dont use martha, but iris in the back..

bc kayla just dies as soon as her soul is extracted and celeste heals iris before she dies

[rose sequoia]

Well ofc

[rose sequoia]

💀

[rose sequoia]

I don't have Cel

She's lvl 50 Violet

I think maybe what I need to do is increase Axel and Cleaver power, also general team survivability

[stark axle]

yea, works with others as well.. like i said earlier, everything works in adventures

its 13-12 day today

[rose sequoia]

Not my team 💩

[rose sequoia]

I ran out of charges breh

And it's not good buffs

[stark axle]

ask one of the whales in your guild to open it for u

[rose sequoia]

Wait for good buffs

[stark axle]

or just use 3 of your 120 portals to try (raid 2 time in what u already finished, then open 13 to try

make it private, talk to top 2 players

[rose sequoia]

No I can't open portals 😭

It's ok I'll wait in peace, promise

[stark axle]

take your time, allow it to take maybe 3 days, does not matter

[rose sequoia]

Yeah ok tysm

[rose sequoia]

Ofc make it private

[stark axle]

i mean i tried 13-10 like 3 times so far.. allways lost, but its good to see where we stand from time to time

but usually it wasnt my fault

[stark axle]

these are mine btw

[rose sequoia]

Yeah but you're like 5y player

And you probably spent money or something

I didn't even join a silver guild until 130 bc I couldn't

And so my glyphs are trash

We still don't hit max activity, only penultimate

[stark axle]

nope.
vip5 which is 16 euros and i started in october 2020 on that server which isnt even 3 years ago

[rose sequoia]

Yeah ik lol I started in September 2020 so you couldn't be earlier than me

It was a joke

[stark axle]

thing is, this was my second account, so i went into it with a plan how to do things

so i could skip a lot of newbie mistakes
thing is, the initial plan was bad, so i still have a useless 55k faceless now

[rose sequoia]

55k Faceless who cares

[stark axle]

he got lots of skinstones, thats the most hurting thing there.. rest does not matter much, ur right

[rose sequoia]

Aight well gtg bye

😴

[stark axle]

i got 2 of his skins over lvl 50

[vague valley]

120 portals??

💀

[rose sequoia]

Mine

[vague valley]

lol

[topaz tiger]

amira-tank 💪

[placid granite]

Today, at adventure 12 #20, how do I win over the Mushy, Judge and Arachne trinity combo with magical damage resist?

[stark axle]

isaac

if your options are limited, give your top 10

+jorgen, seb, arachne, isaac, if they arent included

[placid granite]

Aurora, Celeste, Neb, Orion, Martha, Dante, Seb, Isaac, Heidi, Jhu, Iris.

[stark axle]

give screenshots, so that i can see the power

based on that, use the osh meta

but ofc i cant be sure if yours is strong enough with just the names

[frozen cargo]

Amira tank seems weird to me. Her ultimate is delayed damage.

It wasn't me hina, i didn't do that.

Seen someone pop in here n @ you. Then disappear as if nobody saw it.

[stark axle]

yea lol, easy win

why dont u do 13s?

if thats not just all out of rarity fair, u should easily be strong enough for adventure 13.. if it is, focus on ONE DPS for just 3 weeks and u are ready.
i would suggest iris.

since i have my iris over 85k, i can do adventure 13 daily

[placid granite]

No one play 13. Perhaps they select closed adventure.

[stark axle]

are u the strongest in your guild?

[placid granite]

At the lower end of the guild.

[stark axle]

if ur outside top 3, ask top 2 to try with u on 13-12. u have to do only 7 moves

i really hope, the rest plays 13s.. otherwise ur all wasting a lot of free ressources

i mean my 11th hero is FAR weaker than yours and i just crossed 400 wins in adventure 13 😉

focus is key here

[vague valley]

Hello

[stark axle]

hi oczan

[placid granite]

Say the aforesaid trinity combo, I can't use Orion because #20 is magical damage resist. I can't use Seb because Judge counters. Arachne stuns and and Mushy have time to grow wildly. And the #20 is damage 50% increase dealt to me. So I have no confidence to capture this point.

[stark axle]

since when does judge counter seb so that u cant use seb anymore?
also isaac counters all of judge, mushy and arachne. and once they are all silenced, u can relax with sebs shield

magic resistance does not matter if u dont do magic damage

what else is in the defense team?

[placid granite]

Celeste and Thea.

[stark axle]

build it in combat training, set it to maxed, apply the buffs it has in te adventure.
then set attacking power to actual power and test. i guarantee u at least 9/10 wins even on auto.

[stark axle]

ok, so your isaac gets even stronger.

the whole thing could be done with isaac+dorian+seb if u wanted and have a good oli

i tested it in combat training with speed buffs for the opposing team to make it harder and got 4/5

i also included patronages for the defense which wont apply to adventures.. biscuit on judge, so that he actually IS a seb counter...

mara on arachne ofc.
still won against this much harder team most times.

[fervent breach]

good day

[vague valley]

what to do with 680000 pet potions, can we exchange them?

[stark axle]

i wish we could

we will get a new pet sometime in summer, there u can spend like 450k to get it to lvl 130

[terse flame]

I dont kno which is worse. Pet potions or Star Mana

[random field]

Both are too much

Snap fish 😂

[terse flame]

my own account - not the whale one

didnt kno i got 18M Star Mana....

[random field]

Well star mana is only spent if you spend resources on asgard, and that stuff is a pain to get

[terse flame]

true....need Insignias

i am already in a good guild that clears 160.....but the rate of getting those resources r just too slow

[stark axle]

good for u, im still stuck with 150s

but as im also not able to contribute against 160 so far, i guess its ok

[terse flame]

150 is not bad once u have a decent Isaac team

but 160 needs a much better isaac team....mine only does 2~5M damage on the 160, and over 100M on the 150

[fathom thistle]

What level do you start at for the raid fights?

[terse flame]

150

[terse flame]

I would say slowly increase the osh level based on ur guild's minion attacks. If more than half can get perfect or near perfect for the minion fights, then u increase the level of osh to the next level

[stark axle]

same here lol

record against 150 is 104M, record against 160 is 4.5M

but both not stable, so i guess, your a bit stronger

[fathom thistle]

My guild just switched to starting at 140 a few weeks ago.

[terse flame]

only 800K....i dont use pet for Martha, and I swap to Axel if 160

[stark axle]

with axel im at 814k

isaac should get to red+2 end of this week or start of the next one

[stark axle]

why no axel?

level 150 has twice as much penetration as my martha has armor even with axel.. so its just lowering her magic attack

[terse flame]

if your martha is able to survive, without pets (which axel adds armor) hopefully Martha can ult faster

[stark axle]

hm, will try next time i have time at the weekend..
so maybe in 4 weeks lol

until then, its log in, auto-skip, log off for me

[ashen niche]

did i join the wrong channel? 😛

question about my pets, i assume i should be pushing my Axel up to max V+3 next?

[frozen cargo]

Getting Axel up to v3 will drop the maximum damage received by a single blow to less than 50%. But this is fairly situational as usually, you take damage from multiple sources. But, you will be able to survive a crit by K'arkh with Sebastian.

[rose sequoia]

It looks like you're using a dodge team so that's probably a solid idea

[ashen niche]

yep, i am. tks 🙂 both of ya

[flat quest]

guildmate went the wrong way, is there any hope for 4 chests?

[terse flame]

which means, mathematically, possible. In reality, not really 🤣

none of the players r 130....so i doubt they have all the needed heroes at max

I actually dun remember how strong AD9 boss is anymore....

[cold dew]

nice

[frozen cargo]

Galahad has strong vampirism.

So with buffs, is annoying.

[rose sequoia]

If the Dante bug isn't fixed, he may be better for Galabad

[cold dew]

that's why i use him in the tower

[flat quest]

what about this one 💀 can we even beat the boss

[frozen cargo]

You will have to fight boss with buffs and win to get 4th chest it seems at a glance

[loud aurora]

what's your team

[marble oar]

using dante bug yeah

wil remove of most bosos health and cna beat through buffs

its easier to have top failed than bottom faield too

[marble oar]

oh

[marble oar]

https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1684585421585335172 chabnba OP 😦

eat into eat couldnt do anything

[marble oar]

ah cotro lhero bufff .. . explains it

yah

and i got bodied by that chabba xD

[long turret]

And here I am needing it 🤷

[rose sequoia]

That's weird, my baby Dante fought an enemy Cleaver in guild battles yesterday and took away like 100k health with 6k dmg

He may have been buffed by Neb tho

And I believe PA is what decides how much of the main stat to yoink

[marble oar]

it is pa yes

[terse flame]

Adventure boss has damage cap, so Dante can’t do as much by himself now

[rose sequoia]

Oh it's a dmg cap now

Wait but they always had a dmg cap

Dante just got around the cap bc stealing health is not actually doing dmg

[marble oar]

yah they always got dmg cap

[terse flame]

I think before dante's damage somehow wasn't capped....so now it is working as intended

[rose sequoia]

It wasn't capped because it's not damage

But if it's only fixed for the dmg cap, then it's still broken in pvp

So the bug is not really fixed

[near radish]

bug was hp was not rescaled back when skill timed off

so stat itself was reduced temporary as intended but hp wasn't

it was reduced permanently

[rose sequoia]

So it is fixed?

[near radish]

looks like fixed

[iron nest]

Martha heals zero in this adventure battle

[rose sequoia]

Bc Cleaver pulled her

[iron nest]

yes, Cleaver pulled her to front

https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1684641367266854503

[frozen cargo]

Cleaver does this. I like to bring Dorian for this reason, but mine dies to the hook as soon as he gets hit instead of being pulled forward. Alas ... No dorian for this fight until further notice.

[iron nest]

Martha contributed only speed boost in this battle, no healing.

[cold dew]

so dorian can counter cleaver?

[frozen cargo]

Normally

[iron nest]

Cleaver is only tanky, don't have any support skill, don't deal high damage. So when fight against Cleaver, usually kill other member first and gradually kill him.

[frozen cargo]

Watch out for peppy though.

[iron nest]

I rarely meet peppy. In my server, only 1 top player uses Cleaver + Peppy, but he rarely is in top 50 arena. I only meet his team in guild war.

[near radish]

and where is your axel?

[vague valley]

mugenji ?

[iron nest]

yes

[vague valley]

yeah he falls to osh meta fast

[vague valley]

even Hide uses it at times

these 2 have similar setups and builds, maybe good friends 😄

[iron nest]

they are rarely in top 50 arena, so I don't have to fight them

[vague valley]

yeah whenever they come up, lolosh pushes them down fast

[iron nest]

I want to build Issac, too. Currently he is 40k. I will build him after Nebula

[vague valley]

yeah will help u in osh fight too

ur maya phobos are good magic resistors in pvp anyway

[iron nest]

currently my guild is not very strong to gain coin in guild war or cow. So the best investment is invest into OSH.

[vague valley]

u planning to build satori or amira anytime ?

[vague valley]

and maybe a bit on titans 😆

[iron nest]

I will build warrior first, so much signal left for warriror: Yasmine, Ishamel

[vague valley]

also i have a plan for crab legs, lets hope we can make it cow top 100 within next 3-4 months 😉

wow ishmael !

[cold dew]

it's cool that HW upgraded ishmael

[frozen cargo]

In adventure, Cleaver hits my dorian with the poison gas so by time he uses hook, already below 50% and kills with hook. It is moderately annoying. Yet, not low enough for Corvus to teleport him to the center.

[near radish]

my usual team for cleaver boss is

fight end at 1:45 - 0:45 depending on daily buffs (against adv 13 one)

sebastian instead of orion also works though it makes team a bit slower...

[frozen cargo]

The team I Went with yesterday. I realized my error as I hit the fight start button. It worked out though, total victory. Buffs were support and healer boost. Or was it mage and support or mage and healer...

[near radish]

actually only mistake here is oliver

[obtuse wyvern]

for my friends.

[frozen cargo]

Dah, is good to know.

[frozen cargo]

Oliver as pet? I have toyed with different pets, Oliver, Axel, Albus, Cain, it doesn't matter much. Albus probably does the most damage, cain is nice because he won't hit a damage cap. Maybe Mara? Does she delay the boss at all? Works in pvp but maybe not with bosses.

[bitter aspen]

which pet should be upgraded to best

[near radish]

just read boss buff - decreased debuff duration by 80% limits all debuffs to breaking ult at most

[frozen cargo]

Dependa on your priorities. I started with oliver then albus but switched to Axel and pumped axel untill reaching the 50% mark on the damage max.

[near radish]

all of them... though order of upgrades depends on your main team

and it takes years to upgrade all pets

[bitter aspen]

I started with oliver too

its good to have healer pet if u lack more than 1 healer hero??

[near radish]

there is no healer pet in game actually

[bitter aspen]

oliver is a kind of healer i thought though lol

[near radish]

and it is extremely rare to need more than healer in a team

[frozen cargo]

Axel was violet 2 with half paragon tree of gems upgraded at 5 stars to hit the 50%

[near radish]

most improtant part of oliver is his violet skill - to increase survivability of tanks and isaac in guild raid

other than that his heals are nearly worthless

[bitter aspen]

ok so in a team of 5 a tank -- julius, a marksman/warrior -- dante/yasmine/jhu/mojo and healer- marta/maya/celeste

i have upgraded these

[near radish]

mojo has only use - brog in outlands..

[bitter aspen]

ohhhk debren...

[near radish]

maya is not a healer - it is pure damage dealer working in some specific teams

[bitter aspen]

ohhkk so should I keep it in my best five upgradation prio??

[near radish]

now out of damage dealers you have, you should pick just one and focus on it

[random field]

This 100% physical resist node in today's adventure, Lian goes Brrr 🙂

[frozen cargo]

Lian is a fancy hero, deals physical, pure, magic and attitude.

[near radish]

to bad only hero in her team should be instant dead dorian to get most of her

[bitter aspen]

how good is dante???

[near radish]

most broken hero right now

[bitter aspen]

ohhh its my best hero right now.... its broken in game... but u broke my heart saying this

[near radish]

broken usually means overpowered

[bitter aspen]

ohh sorry english isnt my first language

[frozen cargo]

Dante OP right now. Maxed Dante With strong Cain pet will block most hero teams. Pair with Fafnir, nebula, Martha, jorgen and watch enemy team face plant again and again.

[bitter aspen]

yeahh... jorgen it is good in tower

i am just a new player such guidance to develop specific heroes is helpful

[frozen cargo]

I threw Jorgen in there as a sort of joke, but he might be useful.

Jorgen is great, used to be part of meta build Astaroth, Jorgen, Martha.

[bitter aspen]

no many a times i use first jorgen skill and then dante to tackle yasmine and other hero

[random field]

Jorgen is always useful in early-mid game 🙂

And often useful in adventures

I rarely see jorgens in late/end game though

[near radish]

to many sebastians

[bitter aspen]

yess i think against game by server it is good but in cross server or with other rivals like in arenas it may not be that useful

[frozen cargo]

I am surprised I don't see him more often these days. With Biscuit, Arachne, Khorus... Seems like Jorgen is just about ready for a resurgence.

[near radish]

he charges up isaac and khorus to much

[bitter aspen]

i received it in recent event only

so i developed him

[random field]

Khorus does nothing to jorgen, Only found that out in the harem discord 😅

Khorus doesn't block his energy block debuff

[frozen cargo]

Jorgen is an interesting hero. He redirects damage to the back line hero. (Not good vs Martha) and he blocks energy gain(prevented by Sebastian)

[random field]

So I expect a resurgence with control teams featuring jorgens soon

[frozen cargo]

That is what I mean, Khorus is only stun, silence and charm... So Jorgen vs Khorus pet.

[random field]

Satori still laughs at jorgens, but nowadays he's a niche hero for dodge spam and ishmael

[bitter aspen]

yasmine dante and jhu in my rival .... for these heroes what good heroes could be in my team???

[frozen cargo]

Time will tell. Tio Gold leagues might be using Jorgen already... Probably on offense.

[bitter aspen]

I m in silver league top 3 but the gold league level is just a on different mode

I am receiving messages congrats your level up to 3..4...5 what is it???

[frozen cargo]

From MEE6? Means you are leveling on this discord. Your name will change color eventually.

[near radish]

just annoying counter how much you write in discord

[bitter aspen]

heyy which skin is good for dante?? health/dodge/agility

but what do I get from it

these messages>

[frozen cargo]

Green, blue, purple, pink, teal, chartreuse,and eventually orange.

[bitter aspen]

does this level can help me in anyways???by mee6

[random field]

Dodge and AP are best to first invest in

[bitter aspen]

hmmm gotcha

[near radish]

couple of channels require certain level to write

[frozen cargo]

You gain privileges in discord. See channels, make suggestions.

Mainly just the clout bucks do

[bitter aspen]

and for marta?

[random field]

Personally, she requires minimal investment until you get to like mid game, she can function well enough without skins

Don't get me wrong, all her skins are great, but they aren't super important for her to function

[bitter aspen]

so i can invest it eslewhere...👍

[random field]

If there is an influx of Kaylas or jhus on your server, armor skin is valuable

But not essential

[frozen cargo]

Pretty much... Don't grind her too much, her healing is fairly decent and her ultimate is interesting. Will come in very useful for campaign. But too strong and she won't ultimate fast enough.

[vague valley]

he is immensely useful and used in endgame CoW vs khorus teams without seb

[random field]

Finally a full CP adv 13, albeit a low final CP reward

[vocal plume]

That's the best A13 rewards I've seen in like a month

[random field]

Feels like it as well, I rarely see 3 lots of CP now, it used to be so much more frequent. It really does feel like nexters be nerfing the CP rates in adv 13s

[marble oar]

how do you guys beat orion boss in adv 11 strong isaac ? it keeps shootting more and more rockets ;p

[vocal plume]

Jorgen can be helpful too against Orion boss

Doesn't even need to be powerful... Satori too

[random field]

I just use osh team

[marble oar]

my team i used for orion is close to osh .. my isaac is too low though

like martha isaac jhu cel dante

jorgen would work on boss ?

[rose sequoia]

Debuffs are reduced

Maybe his energy suck in basic attack works tho

But Orion charges fast I think

So idk how that would work

Also Jorgen should get Mara + be countered by Khorus

He's definitely a control hero

[near radish]

30k satori destroys this boss

isaac with manual play is good option - need to time his ult just so it breaks orion's ult right after firing 1 or 2 rockets

if you break ult before he fires anything - you need to accept full next volley... if you let him fire 1 or 2 rockets - isaac charges up and is ready for next orion's ult

[rose sequoia]

Not if he dies

[near radish]

low chance - orion targets highest hp

so first 3 or 4 volleys have not enough rockets to attack satori

[rose sequoia]

If your higher health die

[rose sequoia]

What is this?

I mean ik it's a9 but why post it lol

[hushed wave]

idk im bored

my guildies suck

so im prolly gonna end up with three chests

[rose sequoia]

[frozen cargo]

Lian can break ultimates as well. But usually not fast enough.

[rose sequoia]

What's this in relation to?

This seems like a random comment

Oh it's for the Orion thing

[near radish]

lian. arachne. aurora... any hero with stun, silence, paralyze or anything similar

[frozen cargo]

Yeah. She used to break galahad ultimate as well.

[lilac bane]

Seb blocks that right?

[near radish]

yes.. but adventure bosses usually don't have seb

[frozen cargo]

That is adventure 14 stuff.

[rose sequoia]

Whole boss team lol

[lilac bane]

Oh, your talking about boss'

[cold dew]

hi

[vague valley]

How powerful should your heroes be for adventure 7?

[frozen cargo]

Powerful enough to win consistently. I suspect that for 7, 300k should be more than enough. Depends on your team though.

Looks like 150k should get you there alright. Still depends on your hero composition.

[vague valley]

Okay thank you!

[stark axle]

i got consistent wins there with 200k strength on 2 very different accounts (older one with lots of typical newbie mistakes, so i guess if i was able with that one, everyone should be able to do it with 200k).

[rose sequoia]

Depends how good your team is, but 150k through 250k should be a good starting point

[bronze wharf]

oh they fixed dante? in adventures

[frozen cargo]

They fixed that specific bug, yes.

Dante can not be fixed though.

[bronze wharf]

i noticed it's quite hard to do bosses in one attack now xD

[cold dew]

i thought ALL heroes CAN be fixed?!

[frozen cargo]

Nope

[cold dew]

so what did they fixed exactly?

[frozen cargo]

They fixed the bug with dante removing half of the enemy hp.

[cold dew]

oh no...so dante is NOT as powerful as b4

[frozen cargo]

Just as powerful, they just fixed a discrepancy.

[cold dew]

i c

[cinder fulcrum]

Dante, with his violet skill, remove strength from those heroes with strength as primary skill... this lower opponent HP (each strength point worth 40 hp). This lowering is temporary, but before the fix once the strength went back to normal value hp didn't come back with the strength
They fixed this. Now, after 5 seconds, if the hero isn't hit again with the violet skill, both strength and hp come back

[cold dew]

u r SO SMART! 🤓

[cold dew]

the GW trophy will NOT expire, right? @cinder fulcrum

[vague valley]

no

[cold dew]

thanks. then i know HOW to plan my resources...

[vague valley]

hi

Adventure 13 Route Map 10 - a player did one mistake at green route (way down) . He cant attack the boss... Anyone has an alternative Route so that we still get all boxes ?

[cold dew]

i want 2 know, too

[near radish]

if he failed fight - there is no alternative...
this map doesn't allow even single fail

13-10 uses exactly same paths as regular adv 10 and with same problems just multiplied by higher difficulty level

it is reason almost nobody starts adv 13 when there is map 10 for it

[terse flame]

Only if the top can clear buffed location

Check fandom. There r two routes with 1 allowed fail....but both require beating buffed locations

[vague valley]

can you send link of the other route...could not find it

https://hero-wars.fandom.com/wiki/Adventures/10/Valley_of_the_Elements?file=Adventure10Refistro.jpg

found it, maybe it works

[cold dew]

wow...THAT HARD??!!

[marble oar]

yes

[frozen cargo]

10? Absolutely.

11 is easy. You take the middle square first and can lose up to 2 fights. If you do, one of the other players must beat those two fights(even if you only lose 1) and win every other fight along the way, no fights against the boss ... This player can lose one fight which would leave it on the third player who would then need to 1 shot the boss(easy with Isaac) and take one last move to fight the last fight that player 2 didn't get to.

[cold dew]

wow, i need to level up isaac now

[frozen cargo]

Probably. Isaac is extremely useful. Isaac can basically solo mage teams in clash of worlds and other battle formats.

[cold dew]

really?? solo???

[frozen cargo]

Basically.

If you put Oliver on Isaac he will absorb so much magic his teslin will be poppin' like popcorn in a microwave.

[stark axle]

this is as close to solo as im willing to go (dead dorian is also important here)

[cold dew]

wow. thanks!

how come the other 3 heroes did NOT do any damage...how is that possible?

[terse flame]

U just need Seb Isaac Dorian

[cold dew]

got it. thanks

[terse flame]

@cold dew for adventures, dante tank can beat all physical route. Aurora is a really good tank to invest in for AD (tank energy days she will go crazy), I run twins for mage routes and it’s pretty easy (except for Rufus then u need morrigan)

[cold dew]

THANK you 4 ur advice. so far i m running Heidi team and Dante will be my 2nd team later

[rose sequoia]

Aurora dodged

Maybe they just died also

[cold dew]

they die THAT fast without any fight? it's INTERESTING and ODD

[rose sequoia]

Not really interesting or odd... they are less than 50k power fighting max level team. What do you expect?

[cold dew]

ah....they ONLY have 130 lvl but NOT with the skills

but then what is the point of level up them to 130 if u r NOT going to use them???

[rose sequoia]

Their skills are probably leveled up, just not their other things (glyphs, artifacts, GotE, Ascension are all probably not high)

[rose sequoia]

He is using them... they are all just low investment (not Corvus, idk what he's doing there)

Also players that are high level have tons of exp pots and pet pots to spare

Why not use them?

[cold dew]

hahaha.....true. so i guess u will reach MAX level and can NOT level up anymore, right?

[rose sequoia]

Well after you're done getting your main 5 to 130, you can spend exp pots on other supports and stuff

[cold dew]

i mean, there will be a MAX CAP where u can NOT level up anymore, right? (skills everything)

[rose sequoia]

Yeah ofc

You can't go to 131 🤣

White and Green skills go to 130, Blue goes to 110, Violet goes to 90

Those are their maxed numbers

[cold dew]

that's good to know....but STILL FAR AWAY from me...haha

[dreamy loom]

Alguien habla español

[stark axle]

aurora dodged them

[cold dew]

nice!

[near radish]

Power of daily buffs - Adv.13 Cleaver with dmg buff active: https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1685024645134389807

[cold dew]

cool

[frozen cargo]

Feels like just yesterday that I was always short on these things...

[random field]

Welcome to the maxed leveled pet world

[terse flame]

That’s why we kept on telling people don’t waste resources on pet potions

[daring shore]

how do you get so many potions? omg

[terse flame]

That’s not a lot

[daring shore]

how tho?

[frozen cargo]

2 plus years of play.

[rose sequoia]

After you get to do a13, it's not too hard to max all your pet levels... then what do you do with your pots? They just stack up forever

[near radish]

another "successful" adventure 13:

and perfect example, how those stupid potions stack...

bottom line is mine - 10k completely useless potions...

[topaz tiger]

🤔

[cosmic sphinx]

/imagine

[topaz tiger]

4 294 967 295 = 0xFFFFFFFF in hex 😺 (-1 actually

[fluid plinth]

Is this legit or a bug?

[frozen cargo]

Adventure 13 has a lot of moves.

[topaz tiger]

i wish the same bug with my emeralds 😺

[torpid crystal]

u know what sucks? When I need dozens of some type of dawnstone, the map yields only duskstones for like a month straight, or the reverse. 😐

[frozen cargo]

You can sell unneeded stones and buy the ones you need. It is always more efficient to go higher adventure and use chaos to buy stones.

[near radish]

it is not even close to adventure 13 dropping 10k pet potions and 0 cp... 10 times in row... when you already have all pets 130 level and supply of potions stacked for next several years of playing

[torpid crystal]

yeah, had thought that but the drop rate of chaos particles was too low to support that strategy.

[rose sequoia]

Nah just use CP to buy stones. Better than going to lower lvl advs

[outer zenith]

even better if you can afford to wait for the great storm event to buy most of your lower lvl stones

[rose sequoia]

Most can't wait that long + CP is not that much to get just to buy stones

[outer zenith]

question: what happens if someone gets kicked while doing an adventure, can he end it/ collect the reward or is it like "sorry bud its closed"

[rose sequoia]

I think they don't get rewards but idk

[near radish]

no guild = no adventure

[rose sequoia]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking

If you try to press the guild button or anything guild-related it sends you to the look for guilds page

[near radish]

adv 13 started 2d ago and completed yesterday:

closed today and raid because there is map 10 now:

there is something rigged with loot table

[slim moth]

Hello

[frozen cargo]

The more you want it, the less you get. You just need to learn to desire pet potions more.

[topaz tiger]

the more you have it - the more you get it 🧌

[frozen cargo]

Ahha that is also true. The laws of nature: Abundance

[topaz tiger]

what is this? 🤔 bug? my has 546 721 hp, how 156k dmg can be ~70%?

( replay https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1685329438097452076 )

[torpid crystal]

I beat adventure level 70 for the first time yesterday,

so today I came back to start farming the hell out of it, joined someone elses adventure.

He was a total flathead and had wandered back and forth on the left side of the map and wasted his moves,

I made a run for the boss, but could only take down two of the pylons before zeroing out....

The other player couldn't close the deal...

So as much as it makes sense to farm at high level it requires your guild mates to have a reasonably high IQ in playing adventures, which strangely is not garanteed by having to climb up to that level...

[hushed wave]

not high IQ, just basic functioning capabilities and being able to read

[zenith quail]

I'm pretty sure they get the rewards for the Adventure that had been earned up to the point they were kicked in their Mail. But only rewards that were earned before they were kicked, like when you leave an Adventure early... 🤷

[near radish]

read dante's skills... especially violet one

[cinder fulcrum]

Violet skill reduce main opponent stat... that for Aurora is Stregth. Each strength point worth 40 health points, thus it's not "damage" but health reduction for 5 seconds.
For example my Dante removes 3515 strength each time he hits with blue or white skill... this means 140k health reduction

[topaz tiger]

nerf !!

[cinder fulcrum]

Dante is strong, but there are a lot of counters. It's always paper/stone/scissors

[surreal lagoon]

Dante can for some strange reason do extra damage to tanks. It happens when the funny white lines appear on the health bar. Dante can even do this to Adventure bosses Corrupted Cleaver and Corrupted Galahad. Dante can also do this to tanks even if the team has a damage-decrease buff over 100% ( meaning the enemies are immune to all damage ).

[marble oar]

the strange reason is his violet paasive

[cinder fulcrum]

It's not "extra damage". His violet skill remove points to opponent main stat. Tanks usually have "strength" as main stat and each point of strength removed is 40 point of life removed, for 5 seconds (then it comes back)
Thus, it's not "damage" and "damage reduction" do not work against this skill
Look at my Dante. It removes 3174 strength... that means 126.960 health for 5 seconds

[radiant heart]

Good guild mates are required for pet adventures. Usually strong PA players are in the gold guilds.

[warped hull]

can someone help me on adventures

[torpid crystal]

what do you need to know?

[frozen cargo]

Plenty of experience here

[bright phoenix]

6 raids on #13. 4x stone in the last chest. It is so frustrating and feel that playing lower adventures wouldnt give so bad result

[dry sapphire]

my kark died so fast but nebula suprised me

orion blew him up

here is the clip if anyone wanna check it outhttps://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1685628777429245843

[rose sequoia]

If your K'arkh is dying so fast maybe use a tank

[dry sapphire]

did u see the debuff?

my tank is aurora and its 90% magic attack

reduction so she's useless here :/

rainbow halo wont do much bro

[rose sequoia]

At least she would be stopping your K'arkh from dying

[dry sapphire]

u dont get it if i put her there orion feeds her energy and she does no dmg bc he hits 3 ppl with the highest health so even if i put her in there i have to take out issac or nebula and then she wont protect bc its magic dmg and barely no physical team for her to spam dodge not to mention u cant dodge magic dmg and i dont think removing issac for aurora was a better optiion i coulda done rufus instead of karkh

[rose sequoia]

I get that part but having a tank there prevents your K'arkh from taking other basic attacks

Although tbf Dark Star targets front 2

It doesn't matter that much, probably Asta for res might have worked

[dry sapphire]

yea but i dont like him for offence he's preety anoying in defence tho

[rose sequoia]

Your K'arkh maybe res and then he ults and kills Orion so he's not a problem or smth

[rose sequoia]

Whatever you won the fight with Neb + Seb

[rose sequoia]

Maybe he dies first lel

[dry sapphire]

my ast

lmao

[rose sequoia]

Mine is worse maybe

[dry sapphire]

how worse?

[rose sequoia]

Who knows

Probably a little bit better but both bad lol

Although your tank branch might be better than mine right? Hidden upgrades

[dry sapphire]

yea more health lemme see

yea lil bit more health

[rose sequoia]

Oh wayyy more Health

Higher power probably too

[dry sapphire]

compared to this

i put too much on aurora i hate fighting issac 😭

[rose sequoia]

Damn beefy Aurora

What power is your main team?

[dry sapphire]

711k

i mix up my arena team a lot but my main is aurora,karkh,celeste,sebestian and low martha and i made martha stay low so she alt more often

when i max out cain then ill focus on ishmeal

nvm i lied its 709k lmao

[rose sequoia]

Ishmeal, yummy

Nice team power tho

[dry sapphire]

yea but twins are on another level

[rose sequoia]

What about twins? Also nice Cain lol

Seems strange to me that you use Cel + Martha tho

Usually I think one is enough

If you took out one you might have room for Jorgen/Neb/Faceless/Kai/etc.

[dry sapphire]

i use celeste to block debuff from yasmines and i use martha to speed up my team completly aurora+celeste+ sebestian are holy trinity i rarely loze unless there is issac which is why i have healers >_>

[rose sequoia]

I see, do you use Axel in battles or Cain?

And I still think Cel alone would be enough but whatever

[dry sapphire]

id use nebula but she has no pathronage and my kai jorgen faceless are small

[rose sequoia]

Small Jorgen is good, it means you can charge faster

And Neb without patronage is also ok

[dry sapphire]

against physical team i use cain but magic i use axel and mix of both i use axel

[rose sequoia]

What about against pure?

[dry sapphire]

in terms of pure dmg u mean heidi, yesmine and maya? i use axel he carries ngl

https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1685631480225993942

[rose sequoia]

In terms of Heidi and Iris mainly

[dry sapphire]

well i loze to iris in defence but

ill have to admit that

maybe i dont need martha o.O

still defensive win

[candid meteor]

@here Can i get a little help?

[rose sequoia]

Your here and everyone pings don't work, we don't have those perms. If you want help go to #💬general tho

[candid meteor]

Ohhhh-

thanks for telling me

[dry sapphire]

tank swiftness makes aurora go crazy

[rose sequoia]

Chance to Dodge = 100000000%

[dry sapphire]

xD

[near radish]

look at this and cry - 3 or 4 months since seen such 13 last time:

[dry sapphire]

😭

the 2nd person got best reward

love em chaos particles*

[near radish]

chaos particles... chaos cores are completely different thing:

[dry sapphire]

i mix em up i have small memories 🥲

[rose sequoia]

🤣

[proven birch]

Is this team strong enough to do Adventure 12 and confidently get 4 chests?

I've completed it once with 3 chests a few weeks ago at 480k. Ish has full ascension.

[rose sequoia]

Should definitely be, how did you get his Ascension to max at this level?

[proven birch]

Not completely max but I do have the Brutal Awakening. I had 100% focus just on Ishmael from the beginning of the account. I only used resources on his ascension during Ascension Season and I purchased one of the 24 hour bundles. I also only used the Astral Seer when the daily double was agility crystals.

[dry sapphire]

ive never gotten a reward this bad

[vague valley]

I'd build Astaroth instead of Aurora for an Ish team

[frozen cargo]

I thought 13 had up to 400 chaos reward but instead i feel like i only get 200.

[proven birch]

Why do you prefer Ashtaroth? When I face teams he's usually resurrecting himself very early.

I like Aurora's Rainbow Halo and AoE damage to counter Martha's teapot, Elnir copies and Morrigan summons.

[vague valley]

If the astaroth's you're facing are weak then he'll be easy to kill but end-game's different.

[proven birch]

In the end game, how does Astaroth compare to Corvus and Rufus?

[vague valley]

Rufus is better of course against magic/pure and especially Iris. Astaroth usually survives and tanks better than both of them though.

Against physical damage ^^^

[proven birch]

That is good to know. My server is flooded with Dante and a few Yasmine teams. Magic damage is fairly rare besides Celeste. So I picked Aurora for her ability to deal with physical with dodge + the halo which Ish doesn't absolutely need since he can cause magic damage to miss with his first ascension.

[rose sequoia]

How old is this acc + how much have you spent?

[bitter aspen]

ok

[dry sapphire]

aurora 100%

[placid granite]

At AD 13-12, are there any teams always resident at the same node like AD 12 #12?

[terse flame]

Yes

[placid granite]

Which nodes?

[gentle raft]

How do I restart the first adventure mission?

[terse flame]

Restart?

[winter void]

is adventure 10 hard one? like compared to 9 that has been a breeze for weeks?

has marksman buff on now so my dante team will be strong

[terse flame]

It’s not hard, just no fail, and bottom routes have to wait for teammates to clear

[near radish]

no single fail allowed, so just one strange combo can ruin chances for 4 chests... and it is only reason most ppl don't like this one

[fluid plinth]

What do you mean, restart?

[winter void]

Ah damn a big guy went against buffed and failed ofcourse..

[winter void]

marksman buff and +250% energy gain increase, some dante 🙂

replay was as expected, dante throwing spears nonstop

[winter void]

damn we had a chance to try get 4 chests still, going through boss with one +90% dmg resist but this other guy didnt read, oh well 😄

he has ~130k-150k power heroes so it would've been possible I think

with marksman attack buff +75% his dante and jhu would make crazy dmg anyways with dmg resist

[fathom thistle]

When playing adventure 13 layout 10 is there a suggested map to use? (I assume enemy buffs are in different locations compared to regular 10)

[vocal plume]

We always run it by the same exact map and routes

[tribal scaffold]

karkh is a horrible dealer choice against trinity… seb blocks karkhs stun.. aurora arti dodges karkh tendrils…. anyone with cels healing orb isnt lifted ar all by karkh

[near radish]

routes never care about buff locations - they are planned so you can kill enough nodes to collect points for 4 chests so it doesn't change - just need to use proper teams for buffs you meet on path

[fathom thistle]

Hi. Thanks for the reply.

Not all players have teams that do well when the enemies have a +100% physical dmg resist buff or +100 magic dmg resist buff. So it is important to take the locations of those fights into consideration when planning routes for each player and deciding who takes which route.

In some adventures multiple routes are possible. I wasn't sure about adventure 13 layout 10, hence my question. However after looking at the map some, it seems like the only option is same as regular adventure 10.

[near radish]

all maps have exactly same options... just which makes 2 main options possible for maps 9 and 11 with some minor adjustments like mirror version of path in 11 and couple of fails which can be fixed adjusting other paths because of spare moves...
map 12 is only one with various possibilities - again because of really big number of spare moves

map 10 has no spare moves at all - it is exact amount required to collect enough points and make single attack on boss and both normally used path versions have same problem

there are several versions with 1 spare move or 2 attacks on boss but all of them require killing buffed nodes

[terse flame]

Depends on if that buffed node has healers, usually u run the normal route with 10 map. There r two different routes that people use for 10, one is where the bottom player kills the boss, and another where the top player kills the boss

[near radish]

but it is a bit different in 13-10

[terse flame]

I usually run the normal route (just did it few days ago), but I check the top node first to see if there r healers there to see if the 1 spare move route is possible

[dry sapphire]

yea but what can i do hit a reset button to get my investment outta him pff wish it works that way...

[terse flame]

Yeah I want my skin stones back...

Rather use them on dante

[marble oar]

on endf game yes

in mid game he stil wins against most of teams

[dry sapphire]

i rather use em on ishmeal 😦

karkh just isnt as good as he used to be...

[crisp marsh]

adventure maps

[gentle raft]

I couldn't pass it, and now it's stuck.I can neither close it, nor complete it.

[rose sequoia]

Can you show me a screenshot?

If it's actually a1, you can go to log and leave. If it's the tutorial adventure, I don't know if you can even exit it

[cinder fulcrum]

Click the log button and then "leave adventure"

[rose sequoia]

On tutorial adventure you can't

[rose sequoia]

Pretty sure that's the tutorial adventure, idk how to leave it

Did you lose all your battles? Lol

[winter void]

hmmh what about adventure 11, is it hard compared to 10? Like are the fights a lot harder?

It has the tank and warrior buff today and I dont have any tanks or warriors so bad for my team

[fluid plinth]

Ehhh.....

Idk how is that even possible.

[cinder fulcrum]

Adventure 11 is much easier than adventure 10 once you have enough power. Adventure 10 need 3 players that cannot fail a single attack with 15 energy. In adventure 11 two players have both x2 attacks to the boss... thus you can have two fails with these two players and still have 2 attacks to the boss. Only one player need to do perfect run, without boss attack
You have only to open the adventure once, private, and try the first battles. If you see you can handle them without problem, you invite friends. I usually do like that, so that I do not wast my friends portal charges

[winter void]

yeah but first fights might not have warriors and tanks, but yeah it should work

I guess I'll wait if I can do it within one of the event days with more favourable buffs

then I'll raid it for 5 times

[novel crypt]

[near radish]

actually not... if middle player fails once or twice - one ofother 2 can cover for it

[cinder fulcrum]

Yep... as I said it's much easier than adv 10... there are plenty of ways to fix things thanks to those "additional attacks" you have

[terse flame]

Easier to just go straight to 12 map....u can fail like 7 times 🤣

[full swallow]

and easiest boss

[fallen forge]

Is any path on adv 10 that gives you one fail attempt? Or you always need 100% wins

[full swallow]

the latter

for all chests that is

[kind wave]

xxx

[near radish]

there is.. but need to kill some nodes with eye buff active on it

[odd steppe]

finally 🙂

[near radish]

nearly unlimited

and his concentration:

[violet loom]

Whilst I can see the max reward for each adventure, would the actual yield from opening chests be very much different among adv 11, 12 and 13?

[rose sequoia]

The max is just per chest I think

[violet loom]

Ya, and usually I don't recall getting near it