adventures

[stark axle]

i dont even have it on my list, bc it just comes naturally while i grind fangs

but u have more dodge heros right?

good thing the thives guild thing comes for free with fangs

double dip

for me.. well, they pile up

that violet recipe is also a side product of fang farming

[marble oar]

yah neb and heidi maybe

[sweet shadow]

is 500k team strenght enough to try adventure 12?

[stark axle]

can be

but i have also seen 850k guys struggle there, depends on how much u know

lowest i saw was around 450k i think. i started around 520k

[sweet shadow]

oka thx

[fathom thistle]

Tank and main damage dealer’s power is way more important than other heroes. Team composition plays a big factor also.

[terse flame]

Oh god….fangs, amulet, Lamorts all annoying….

[terse flame]

I started around 450k. Depends on ur team

[tribal scaffold]

300k works for me

[stark axle]

nice

[tribal scaffold]

adv 12 is about 370k if good buffs

otherwise i dont attempt 12

[stark axle]

nice

lowest on 13 i saw so far was around 450 i think

but could get lower if u have 2 big and flexible players (in 13-12)

like this

7 moves for the small player

[tribal scaffold]

interesting

8 moves can be wasted mm

for the weak one

[stark axle]

yea. but the other 2 must both get 14 or 15 hits done

but thing is, if blue fails, weak player can help a bit

[tribal scaffold]

yeah

[stark axle]

its a bit slow, but great if u have 2 big and one small

bc u have a lot of waiting, middle needs to go before blue, and then after it again

[tribal scaffold]

looks like all of my adventures lol

[stark axle]

best is small starts, then the other 2 at the same time

bc small first hit opens middle

[terse flame]

I do similar to this, but mid opens right buff first. This way dun have to wait for third player

[stark axle]

by now, i mostly just do this

blue starts, then red can finish the boss. its the fastest

if red is strong, they can do the tower (i usually start, and have some stronger guys for 2nd)

[long turret]

why is Mushroom so strong in Adv 11

[marble oar]

hmm had wierd buff where AIs where basicaly unkillable

my guildmets were defintly not too weka for this adventure and couldnt tocuh enemy team

thea was just hlaing like crazy

nothing was going downb

eneergy gain for support heroes gained encreas 100%

[stark axle]

jorgen them

[marble oar]

its long time done and i wasnt able to reach it anyway but good to now for next time

i managed to beat bufffed boss in 3 attemps

was adv 8

[stark axle]

if the opponent uses magic attack, u could also isaac them, thats what i usually do

or, use arachne

control is key here 🙂

[fiery cradle]

Why can't I damage the boss in Adventure 4?
https://www.hero-wars.com/?replay_id=1677533317612985140

[fiery cradle]

OK. What surprised me was that I didn't do any damage. So I always have to destroy the towers first? No matter what hero level I attack with?

[outer zenith]

I'm back with my Dante damage problem, he grew in power since last time, still does the same weird 604 dmg with active when every other skill/attack does 5424 dmg, what's wrong here? :/ https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1677530528915370895

adventure 5

boss ends at 2% hp now so if that's a bug it's really stopping me from solo'ing so my mates can focus on the 4th chest :/

[outer zenith]

he does 604 with active skill (instrument of fate, his best damage usually?) which is what is weird here, I'm OK with the 5424 basic attacks

anyways i m getting jhu from a chest on the next outland event, thanks for the advice 🙂

[outer zenith]

this might be it, thank you very much for helping me understand !

[near radish]

if you look more carefully - first goes basic attack for 5424 which charges up dante's energy to 100% then 4 speeras from ult for 604...

BUT - there is some bug for sure - hit for 5424 gives boss 0.9% energy like it was caped at 0.9% hp not 1%... and hits for 604 give 1% energy like they were hitting for 1% - 6040 would be something about 1% if compared to 0.9%=5424

there is definitely something wrong with numbers - all other multi-hit ults, like orion, satori, yasmine, are good against bosse just because dmg cap is for per hit, not per attack

dante's ult shouldn't be exception here

so question is - is it bug with dmg dealt or just visual glitch with number displayed - as dmg number doesn't match energy gained number

[cinder fulcrum]

Ehm.... Energy gained for attack is not based on damage done if I remember well... it's fixed for attack done and skill used
From wiki it look like there isn't any relevance on how much damage your attack do... only 10% energy per attack and skill use
Is the wiki wrong?

[near radish]

read second position - 1% health lost = 1% energy gained....

if your attack hit enemy for 1% of his hp = he will get 1% energy... this is part of mechanics used with all baby heroes

[cinder fulcrum]

Losting 1% health, not damage done... Isn't it referred on the damage YOU TAKE and not the damge you do? Have I always read it wrong? Good to know

[near radish]

it is dmg you take... but remember dmg you do is same as dmg enemy take

so dmg dealt to boss is dmg he takes and gets energy from

[cinder fulcrum]

Ok... I continue to think that it's completely bad spelled, but I trust you when you say that you gain 1% energy for each 1% damage done

They should add a row with "1% damage done to enemy => 1% energy"

[near radish]

they shouldn't

1% dmg you do to enemy = 1% energy this enemy gets

[hollow bone]

i guess

[cinder fulcrum]

Ah... ok... THE ENEMY gets the energy, not the attacker... Ok. This is clear and it's as I thought... misunderstanding probably due to my English

[undone pebble]

ใครมีรูปแบบด่าน9มั้งขหน่ย

[near radish]

and look at those white +1%... looks like each hit took 1% hp from boss and charged him 1% energy

[stark axle]

is it a first try attack?

strange

well.. like tod howard would say: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPN0qhSyWy8

yes.

[stark axle]

jorgen them

but usually iris-celeste should have been enough, that works for me

which spot was it?

ur doing 12?

your mostly stronger than i am, and i do 13

or are u the strongest in your guild?

ah lol ok

we usually have enough players for a quick 13

unless its 13-10

tried it once this year.. was hard, but doable for me. but guildmate had 2 fails

well, i dont do that

[magic beacon]

Killing the boss adv13 with 473K team https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1677651480548197058

[livid niche]

Hello, I have astral challenge of 5 buffs in three days, are there any two buff adventures in first 5, I an level 80.

[cinder fulcrum]

You can take three in advnture 4

If you follow the central path you can take 2 without messing the adventure to other players

https://hero-wars.fandom.com/wiki/Adventures/4/Fall_of_the_Celestial_City?file=Adventure_04.jpg

[livid niche]

Thank you

[long turret]

You can get 3, just take the most useless buff (magic damage decrease)

[cinder fulcrum]

Take the central path and stop at 8. If your fellow guild members beat the boss, use your last two energy point to go back and take the third... otherwise kill the boss. If you 4 chest the adventure then LEAVE THE ADVENTURE OPENED (close it with the X button and ESC keyboard) and wait. Tomorrow you'll close the adventure with "end adventure" button and you can "raid" it... when you raid an adventure it counts as you killed all the buff towers and used all the altars and your quest will be done (you can raid an adventure if you 4 chest it and only in the day you close it). And learn to keep always 2 portal charges in your stock. Use a portal charges only when you have 3 (you cannot stock more than 3)

[long turret]

buffs go brrrr

[livid niche]

I was too eager, buff too strong. Have to wait for others or quit it later next day. I will do what you suggest next time 👍

[cinder fulcrum]

You attacked with TWO buff active... That hurts

[livid niche]

lesson learned lol

[marble oar]

my first adv 9 uuter failure - double mage buff and last node before boss was helios orion lars krista jorgen rotfl

with dante team xD XD

almost killed it xD

[stark axle]

its allways that team.
in 13-9 as well.
get isaac and its easy

but in 13-9, thats 100% physical resistance route, so as dante player u wont be doing that anyway

[stark axle]

if u open as a physical, u should do lower route (its different pattern then, so that u unlock the middle from the bottom)

[marble oar]

i joined as 3rd

i have issac but its 16k only

[stark axle]

still better than dante in that fight i guess

[marble oar]

i had him

but problem was 100% magicla atack buff today

and 50% mage swiftensss

i would been fine without it

4 buffed mages -.-

isaac doesnt solve it if it isnt big enough ^^

[terse flame]

just use Isaac Dorian combo should be easy to defeat that

[wooden stag]

was just about going to be the worst pull of adv 13 ever, well tied, i'm sure it's happened before to others lol

[stark axle]

CP just once o.O

[wooden stag]

yeah, disaster

[terse flame]

I had AD13 where no one got CP

[wooden stag]

Well not even eggs here lol

[terse flame]

lol

[hazy mural]

I remember reading somewhere that there's a particular adventure that people basically avoid but I don't remember which one it was

[vague valley]

10 or 13-10

[hazy mural]

Ah cheers

I'm a fair bit off 10( only LV 99 atm)

[inland siren]

10

[long turret]

Who even uses emeralds on pet stones?

[terse flame]

Whales

[random field]

It literally would take about 5-6 years to get all pets to max V+3, so it is an easy way for whales to get their pets to max in a short time, at the expense of real life money

[marble oar]

mnaxing pets is very ver y expensive

[buoyant widget]

quick question, is there a way to get more portal charges?

[hushed wave]

nope

[near radish]

there are gifts with them sometimes, but nothng you can do to get more

[buoyant widget]

I got an astral quest that requires 5 buffs yet only 3days, how did you guys fair with that?

[hushed wave]

do adv 8

u get like 3 buffs

[buoyant widget]

Ah, it seem that specific challenge like some others; were meant for the pay more to win, or high level players... I'm nether...

[livid niche]

I did that by doing a two+ buff adventure level #adventures message

[flat quest]

is it this one

oh maybe not since you said buffs...

[near radish]

or just keeping some portal charges and not using all of them to 0 before event

less than week ago there were 3 portal charges in a gift... keeping several such gifts in mailbox is enough to have some bonus charges for such events... also can keep 2 portal charges all time and spend only when you have 3

[marble oar]

nooo .. you cant buy protal charges and one adventures can get you get 2-3 buffs on one route

so 5 in 3 days is not hard

like adventure 4 has 3 buffs in middle route ! never had problems with that quest. Just look at advneture maps and routes you can do and start new one and pick that route .. its not hard

[marble oar]

he is on astral he is not at level allowinng adv 8 lol unless you burn ems much to level up faster

[buoyant widget]

right right, my level allows me to go up to adv 3, and haven't ben able to defeat the Orion boss unless with some else ... so not there yet for the adv. above...

[marble oar]

you are not supposed to fight alone .. i mean you can solo bosses, but advneture is a teamplay game

and orion is nasty

5 buff in 3 days is non issue though ..

[buoyant widget]

I totally agree with you about team , but about the buffs i could only get 3 buffs , since i had only 1 charge per day ...

[marble oar]

you kinda need adv 4 for that yah

considering its half way through astral season you kinda should be 55 by now

there is a bulshit qauest which often requires emerals without luck bit this is not one of them . .and you cant buy portal charges anyway

[buoyant widget]

@flat quest this is the even I have

[marble oar]

missing one quest is okay though

if you miss more ita goona be problem

[buoyant widget]

probably 6 -10 missed most of those, happen when I just qualified to participate in the astral even , and then didn't have battle-pass yet ...

[marble oar]

ouch thats too much missed without pass

[buoyant widget]

probably will be lucky next time!! hey thanks for hangin' out !!

[radiant heart]

has anyone done the math on Adv 12 - 4 chests v. 13 - boss plus 2 chests. My guild mostly runs 12. We occasionally try 13, but miss a chest. Which is better?

[stark axle]

4 chests

[silver violet]

wait how much can u even miss tho

[cinder fulcrum]

You need to make 49000 xp to gain the important reward (the chest at level 50). Without ticket you can get max 50.900 xp points... thus if you lose more than 1900 xp points for lost quest, you won't be able to gain that reward. https://hero-wars.fandom.com/wiki/Special_Events/Astral_Season

[near radish]

and such quests, not only in seasons, are reason you shouldn't get to 0 portal charges - just keep some stored

[cinder fulcrum]

Totally agree... Use one only if you have three and keep always a bounch of free gift stored in your mail box

[marble oar]

i recnetly used my one spare to try adv 9 and failed .. got a mage route on a day woth double mage buff .. RIP

ORION Helio lars krista jorgen double buffed

against dante

[near radish]

isaac eats them

[marble oar]

not 16k isaac

i tried

[near radish]

it is why dante team likes good isaac, or not so strong rufus tank as a backup

[marble oar]

i need to up my issac i learnt

but .. i already dont have resource for main team yet another one ;p

but have it in mid .. jhu/isaac are my 7th and 8th hero in mind ..

[near radish]

rufus doesn't need much - just make him violet, up his first skill and you will get decent protection against iris and such heavy magic teams

[marble oar]

hmm ok .. i started it a bit recently

[near radish]

and this is enough against iris... first skill is what is important against mages

[marble oar]

well i was talking about the orion helio lars krista node

[stark axle]

just build isaac slowly.
rufus wont help much there, bc they all also attack back line

or dante, no matter where he is

and yes, i still remember u used him last time and it didnt work ^^
but it will if u give it a bit time

in adventure 9, maybe a week

one week into isaac health glyph should do lol

[marble oar]

my isaaac weak

[stark axle]

all not relevant, show the health glyph

for now.

[marble oar]

20/40

[stark axle]

get him to lvl 100 and the glyph to 45/50

better 50/50, but that needs a bit longer i guess

[marble oar]

50/50 -.- thats long road

maybe some time ;p

[stark axle]

the more the better.. not sure how much is enough to make it work

maybe 40 is enough, maybe 48.

maybe even 38.

[terse flame]

No

[marble oar]

wtf just went into adv like normaly do but my dante was perma stuneed

by phobos i think

no energy, never could do move

[marble oar]

yah i guess

[crude garnet]

Higher level 3 chests is better than lower level 4 chests

[radiant heart]

do you mean that fewer, higher level chests is better than more, lower level chests?

[crude garnet]

3 chests, not lower than that. You should be able to make 3 boxes easily

[radiant heart]

you'd think, but level 10 map is unforgiving. we played that map on level 13 a few days ago and only got two chests.

[crude garnet]

10 is unforgiving.. yes. Most ppl play 13 on 12 map. You can easily get 3 boxes most of the time

[radiant heart]

is there a way to control which map you get on level 13?

[crude garnet]

no way to control, but you can preview who the boss is and guess which map it is. In a week you'll get 12 (twice), atleast once.

[radiant heart]

so, the map is set daily for the guild? The trick is to determine which map is available for the day and begin accordingly?

[crude garnet]

👍

[radiant heart]

thanks

[stark axle]

you can check by looking at the boss picture

[near radish]

almost - not for a guild but for a server

or even all servers

[daring thicket]

So, this is my team, and they're at about this strength (well, maybe 2k stronger since Albus got a second star from Elemental Season). They're able to beat almost every non-boss node in adventure 5, albeit with some struggle and maybe 1 defeat a day (usually against a Kayla or Isaac team). Against the boss, though, I might get maybe a quarter of his health (if I'm lucky?) before he ults my face off. I'm wondering if people may have suggestions on how to improve/fix that moving forward, and how I might know when I'm ready to join adventure 6es without feeling like I'm going to be a liability to my guild mates?

[near radish]

without cain - astaroth may be better tank against galahad, especially with good weapon artifact, so he can buff armor for a team

next adventure will be ginger boss which can be easily countered with manually played arachne used to break her ult

[daring thicket]

What would qualify as a "good" weapon artifact? That team of 5's weapons are all 3* (the only ones which are starred up because I don't know what to hit next) and Asta's weapon has 2 stars because I had some spare scythe things, but all of the grey Essences I have have gone into getting Heidi's weapon up (it's currently 23). (I'm trying to gauge how much of my resources would have to deviate to get Asta to a point he could do that) Would you suggest that, now that Albus is blue, I switch gears to work on Cain (since he'll need to come up at some point for Aurora anyway)?

[daring thicket]

And I see. Who would I slot her in for, and about how strong might I need to be in order to take that adventure on? I think I read something about maybe waiting until you're 10 levels above the minimum, but I don't know how accurate that was.

[near radish]

3 stars on weapons are obvious minimum - to get 100% chance for buff on activation.. how much more - until it works - astaroth or martha artifact weapon give armor buff which reduce physical dmg

for subbing arachne - you can replace dorian, celeste or nebula - there is no simple rule and just need to test which option would work best

[magic beacon]

There's nothing strange about a match where Helios kills anyone deal crit, the strange thing is that it kills Covus, the enemy of Snakes :))

[sharp skiff]

is this hero good

[radiant heart]

Are you asking for an opinion of Astrid as a hero?

[radiant heart]

This team lacks balance. You have three healers. Also, it looks like you have the beginning of a dodge team (Aurora and Heidi), but you're not committed to it. If you are going for dodge, you should have Cain as your top pet. Dante is the other hero with a dodge artifact. Nebula is a decent support hero, but I prefer Isaac and Sebastian for support. You should also have a control hero. I like Jorgen or Arachne. There is no best team. They key to a strong team is balance.

[daring thicket]

I'm working on Cain. When I started, I was advised to focus Albus at least to blue, as with Heidi's pure damage he'd supposedly have the most use/be the team pet (right or wrong, that was the advice I was given). Now that he's there, it's Cain's turn. Regarding the rest, your opinion is noted.

[sharp skiff]

yes

[sharp skiff]

cool

[radiant heart]

I'm personally not a fan of Astrid. Lucas is a nice sixth hero to have, when he eventually comes out. You can certainly build around her, though. Pick a healer that works well with her. Martha is a good pure healer, but she has no offensive ability. I personally like Celeste. Her combination of strong attack and powerful healing, for one hero at a time, is very nice to have. As I said to Bright Oblivion, pick a control hero or two and a support hero or two. You should probably have a tank too. I have Astaroth, but if I started again, I would choose Corvus. You need either Corvus or Helios to counter Yasmine.

[near radish]

not really... celeste also works well against yasmine and at higher levels she doesn't really need to be countered = any control or magic damage team can get rid of her quick enough
martha has no offensive ability? for me increasing speed of all allies 2.5 times is some serious offensive thing
lucas as 6th hero - in most cases he will get in the way and hurt tank or tanking hero performance and astrid has no real attack power

[lusty tapir]

anyone wants to star this:

Can we have the function to switch between public or private pet adventures after they are created? We have the option before creating a pet adventure, but I always forget to set it correctly.

[delicate vapor]

Is this how corrupted Orion is supposed to work?? In adventure 7:
In his first ult, he shoots 2 missiles. In his 2nd ult, he shoots 4. In his 3rd ult, he shoots 8. And then in his 4th ult, he shoots 13+ missiles and just wipes out my team from almost full health.

[near radish]

corrupted orion in all adventures use a bit different mechanics than regular orion and fires low number of missiles in first ult or couple of them and then it starts increasig with each next one

you can try to manually time arachne to break his ult but your main problem in this fight is you don't have any damage dealer in this team

[delicate vapor]

Ah gotcha, that ramp up on the ult damage is kinda insane though. 2x damage each ult..

ty though I really thought it was a bug lol

[covert cipher]

Which one is Rufus again?

[vague valley]

Your best bet is manual play with Isaac

[stiff hatch]

When can i start doing adventure 9? I am already lvl 100

[marble oar]

unless your team is realy high power 9 is prety rough at 100

[marsh rover]

how often do they switch the heros you can buy soul stones from the adventure merchant? you cant get martha from that shop anymore

[marble oar]

daily

you need abs pet anyway

[river monolith]

just need 61 more soul stones to put my Axel 4 stars

[terse flame]

Use the monthly soul stone chest to get martha

Adventure shop should be exchanged for CP only

[terse flame]

Yeah....auto correct

[frigid escarp]

.

[hot ravine]

Dear @true gate, it seems that the drop rates for chaos particles in adv 13 have gone down significantly. Can you confirm that please and say whether this change is intentional?

[long turret]

When can I fight adv 12? I just reached level 130 today.

[radiant heart]

Top heroes should be at least 500k and you need more than 5 strong heroes

[vague valley]

u need 1 very strong dps

[radiant heart]

What's the best way to counter Rufus when he's on a physical damage resist square?

[terse flame]

Mage team with morrigan

[terse flame]

When u beat Ad11

[radiant heart]

It doesn't really solve the "killing blow needs to be physical damage" problem

[terse flame]

U dun have to. Morrigan prevents revive

So mage teams kill rufus

Mage teams basic attacks r mostly physical. Dun think of it too much

[radiant heart]

This didn't work. I got 12 points.

[terse flame]

Cuz ur Morrigan died

[radiant heart]

Got 6 more points with this and only Rufus was still alive

[terse flame]

Which AD? 12?

[radiant heart]

Correct. She is my #20 hero

[radiant heart]

yes. 90% physical resistance

[terse flame]

I always use axel on her to prevent her from dying

Urs is strong than mine

[radiant heart]

I put in this team just to finish Rufus

[normal hare]

rewarding adventure 13 xd not a single CP

[terse flame]

Lol

[terse flame]

She doesn't need to be strong

[radiant heart]

I used Oliver on her. I figured she needed the extra health more than the extra armor

[radiant heart]

Yours is stronger than mine. All my skins and glyphs go to my top 10 heroes

[terse flame]

She is my #14 strongest

I do have tree for mages maxed. So maybe that's why

[radiant heart]

she's in the Support branch, if you can believe it

[terse flame]

Oh really….

[terse flame]

I didn’t do much to her tho, no skins, GOE or little glyph

My support at 41/50

[radiant heart]

There you go. Mine is only 30

[terse flame]

U should be doing AD13….

I haven’t done a 12 for so long now

[radiant heart]

About once a week I do that

[terse flame]

My usual AD13-12 map 😅

[radiant heart]

You only get 3 chests?

[terse flame]

Waiting for third player

He doesn’t need to do much with my routes

[radiant heart]

I often make at least one and sometimes two or three mistakes. Like the Rufus situation I started with. I have no idea what combination would have defeated that square with one attack.

I'm starting to suspect that I need to completely leave Celeste behind when I face him. It's just hard to leave your top two heroes (Celeste and K'arkh) on the bench.

[terse flame]

I run twins, so I always use morrigan against Rufus

[radiant heart]

I stopped developing my twins six months into the game. They're still my #9 and #10 heroes. Maybe I'll try them the next time I have that challenge.

[long turret]

im doing it well

[terse flame]

Then u should be able to beat 12

[merry solstice]

who are currently your top 10?

BTW, what's a good team for adventure #5 boss? I don't understand how he is so disproportionally difficult

[terse flame]

Sorry too long ago 😂

All boss r buffed

[merry solstice]

no problem. It seems like #5 boss is harder than #6 compared to the nodes. I suppose that's my gripe lol

[radiant heart]

Top 20. Hero #1 has 150k power, #6 has 102k, #11 has 66k, #16 has 46k

[terse flame]

wow big drops

[merry solstice]

Thank you, this is extremely helpful and perfectly echoes the theme I've been picking up to focus on one team and be selective from there.

[terse flame]

work on ur Isaac team first

[merry solstice]

is Dante an acceptable substitute instead of K’arkh?

[marble oar]

of course

khark is ok this days not that great anymore

[merry solstice]

thank you for your unbiased opinion😉

[marble oar]

you see poeple who are 130 play for long time .. where khark was rather meta than dante

todays khark still work but dante is better

[near radish]

and in result karkh is just somewhat decent substitute for dante... just with new stuff added to game some heroes got better buffs than others and karkh got a short stick with them

[stark axle]

try expeditions screen, it shows the power numbers as well 😉

[terse flame]

Damte is miles better than Karkh. and he is easy to use for Adventure

[merry solstice]

tthanks buddy

[terse flame]

are u on web or fb?

[merry solstice]

web

[terse flame]

for AD, usually this team doesnt need more than 15 seconds per location

and since they dont deal pure damage, and no real counters for Adventure against this (even Heidi teams lose easily), this is a nice team to use

[merry solstice]

I don't know when I will get jet unfortunately. I thought he was available in those shard chests from the previous event, but he's one of the handful excluded. And I know that the Sebastian jet combination is🙌 🤌

[terse flame]

add Nebula to that too

[lilac bane]

Seb and Jet and Nebula work really good together? (would I need Dante has well?)

[terse flame]

yes u need dante lol

[merry solstice]

Suggested replacement for Jet?

and I don't yet have cain as patron, so will that mess up the Dante-tank approach?

[lilac bane]

Would I need him a abs star?

[vague valley]

Yeah it will

[terse flame]

dante tank only works at high level

[lilac bane]

I meant Jet sorry

[merry solstice]

It's all good I had 2 different questions. I don't have jet unlocked, so whether I could replace him with someone else. Separate issue is my Dante is not high enough to be a tank for this team to work for me. But I'm writing it down!

[lilac bane]

I was asking because I have a Dante team with Martha and Nebula and Sebastion, so all I'd need to do is work up Jet

[merry solstice]

LOL I see that we are in the same boat in that case !

[lilac bane]

currently I have Astaroth, Yasmine, Jhu, Isaac, and M&S has heroes to level up, Orion will come soon, and Jet I'll start working on

[merry solstice]

Yasmine, Jhu I'm also missing. I've seen different results/mixed feelings about Yasmine, so I could unlock her but I'm following advice of one of the top guilds and she's not on the list of "must haves fully leveled"

[lilac bane]

She's good for OSh though

[merry solstice]

crap, I didn't know that

[vague valley]

Hmm Yasmine is good for Osh?

[lilac bane]

I've seen her do lots of damage

[vague valley]

How much damage is "lots of damage"?

[lilac bane]

I have 5 teams that are good for OSH, and by 5 I mean 1 team and 4 heroes

[vague valley]

and how strong was the Yasmine and against what level Osh?

[lilac bane]

like 4 mill to 9 mill against level 115 OSH

[merry solstice]

I saw a pretty high ranked player recommend her for osh
Astaroth
yasmine
Nebula
Sebastian
Martha

I'm still going with Dante instead for the most part

[lilac bane]

with that team? There tends to be a better team

[lilac bane]

he also does lots of damage

[merry solstice]

I think it was that one. Which might just be a good example of there is more than one solution.

[vague valley]

Honestly you shouldn't build anyone specifically for Osh until you've maxed out the Isaac-Jhu-Neb-Seb-Martha team

[merry solstice]

I've started to focus on this, so this helps to see it reaffirmed.

Unlocking Jhu today or in 2 days

[terse flame]

Yasmine is NOT good against osh

Only thing she is really good for is outland boss

[terse flame]

115 is not hard to do damage if u have a maxed hero. At 150/160 she can't really do much

[lilac bane]

How 'bout Orion?

[lilac bane]

I also hear that Aurora doesn't take damage from the Osh boss, And that Dante and M&S are good heroes for OSH

[near radish]

low level ones - yes... at 150/160, sometimes at 140 dante will have some problems to deal any dmg

[terse flame]

Dante isn’t that great either

[terse flame]

Huh? Aurora do take damage. The team that I use her, she dies first

[terse flame]

Orion is pretty good. I use him with Dorian and Heidi

[lilac bane]

well her sheild doestn't take damage or something like that I was told

[lilac bane]

what are the best teams for OSH?

[near radish]

isaac, jhu, nebula, sebastian, martha, albus

[terse flame]

Not sure wat level osh she was facing….for 150/160, she doesn’t survive long

[vague valley]

She simply takes a bit less damage because she has a shield which absorbs some magic damage.

But she still dies very quickly

A near maxed Aurora would be able to survive and clear the spheres against level 150 Osh but would die soon after that.

[radiant heart]

I don't mind a little Osh talk here, but this is a PA channel. Please discuss OSH teams in the #guild-raid channel

[vague valley]

You'd have to do the same thing you do against Galahad.

Either use brute force through Jhu or interrupt each ult with Yasmine/Phobos/Arachne or someone else

Yeah Dante would be a bit harder

But Yasmine's pure dmg could still reach him.

Orion simply takes an Isaac with manual play

If you're talking about adventure 13, then Galahad or Ginger are maybe the hardest.

[near radish]

or satori... 30-40k satori added to a team is enough for adv11 orion..

[lilac bane]

Already knew that, but if we want to discuss futher we probably should take it to the #guild-raid channel @terse flame @vague valley

[marble oar]

another one like this in a row ~~

[little pilot]

ooooffff

[trail leaf]

It's bad luck lol

[viral topaz]

and again... For 2 adventure 13-s (4 chests each) i got ZERO chaos particles.... @true gate @heady ridge can you please encourage the developers to review and improve this utterly ridiculous drop rate? Players who already do adv. 13 DO NOT NEED pet potions (maybe only in the first chests). But the others 3 should not contain any potions, rather much much more CP-s. Thank you. And while we are still at it, we are still unable to exchange the gazillions of unneeded pet potions for usefull pet stuff.... Despite requesting about 1.432.867.453 times. But all this only after upgrading guild battles please. Thank you again. Attached a screenshot of Zsofi accounts resources to visualise the issue better.

[marble oar]

turned around at least for me ;p

[terse flame]

Potions for CP or eggs…

[viral topaz]

or emeralds 😛

[terse flame]

U wish

[rancid blaze]

This is completely intentional and part of Nexters business model. They want you to spend emeralds on leveling your pets. I agree it sucks getting almost only potions after raiding 13 three times, totally worthless.

[viral topaz]

and my business modell is to not spend a single emerald onpets. Sorry 😛

[broken horizon]

are you from hungary?

[viral topaz]

Yep 🙂

[broken horizon]

én is- I am too

[viral topaz]

akkor szia 🙂

[river monolith]

need 40 chaos particles to put my Axel in violet rank 😅

got it!!

[terse flame]

Now time to get the rest of ur pets to violet 😅

[river monolith]

I tink only Mara, the bird and Merlin left

[terse flame]

Physical team?

[river monolith]

Yes

But just because I focused the ones I liked the most

[viral topaz]

jelölj be 🙂

[lilac bane]

how 'bout Celeste teams?

[terse flame]

Wat team is that? Celeste is usually not main DD

[lilac bane]

I ment attacking Celeste teams in the adventures. If you look in #💬general People were saying that a Celeste team would win to your team.

[lilac bane]

#💬general message this link.

[terse flame]

Not in adventure

[vague valley]

Yeah certainly not in adventure, those heroes are too weak. They were talking about much more high power teams.

[golden crest]

Hello guys, do you know what's the recommended team power to beat Adventure 13?

[stark axle]

i have seen someone with 450k win, i have seen someone with 1M power lose.
your knowlege is more important than your power.

i started around 500k, and never had problems

[vague valley]

I started doing adv 13 with around 465k power but I think it had to do with the heroes I used.

Jorgen literally made enemy heroes kinda useless while also stopping their artifact buffs. Karkh ult copied by Faceless destroyed 2-4 heroes so it wasn't too hard.

[golden crest]

I currently have 500k power, and I didn't have any problems defeating Adv 12. But I'm scared to start Adv 13. I want to win Adv 13 with all chests opened so I can just raid it.

[golden crest]

My team is Astaroth, Celeste, Dante, Jorgen, and Martha. Do you think this team can beat Adv 13?

[stark axle]

depends on how u leveled them i guess.

and maybe try at a day with marksman buff for your dante

[near radish]

there are no simple answer for 13 as it uses 4 different maps - definitely don't recommend trying it on map 10 - and those maps can have very different difficulty levels depending on other players in adventure

[golden crest]

I actually have the lowest power in our guild. Most of my teammates have 1m power. They can beat Adv 13 easily.

[stark axle]

then just do 13-12

there is a route layout where the weakest has to do like 7 targets

so u basically have 2 attempts per target

u can see which map it is by looking at the boss window

once it shows cleaver, go for it 🙂

[golden crest]

I didn't know that. I thought it was random. Thanks for helping

[cedar geode]

wow thats kinda interesting

[golden crest]

I hope they would give marksman buff when the map is from Adv 12

[near radish]

not very good path actually - this swatch player marker sits at worst node on left side

[stark axle]

still doable, he has jorgen

[near radish]

but this is 200% hp node

[stark axle]

i know.

i did that one daily with 500k

i rarly needed 2 tries for it

and he has 15 tries for 7 targets.

so even if he needs 3 tries there he will be fine

[golden crest]

I think I can't beat the 200% hp buff. I only have Dante that can deal massive damage.

[near radish]

there are 1 or 2 other versions that also make left or right side do only 7 targets with 2 moves used for empty slots...
but definitely 12 is adventure which can give most spare moves for weakest player

still - you have 15 moves to kill 7 targets... this, or something like that is probably best chance to start measuring 13 with weak team:

[stark axle]

there weaker player has to waste 2 moves without attacking

then better use something where u leave out something on weaker players side

[vague valley]

200% HP buff in adv 12. There's no buff on that node in adv 13-12

[vague valley]

In adv 13-12, this Swatch player's route doesn't need to attack any buffed nodes.

[near radish]

need to wait until 13-12.. but forgot those are not exactly same maps...

[vague valley]

Tino is planning to try an adv 13 and 13-12 is his best bet.

[near radish]

that's for sure... and 10 is worst one

[marble oar]

making omlette

[river monolith]

Wow that would be awesome for me I need 40 axel soul to put him four star

[marble oar]

eh you get so few pet souls 20 eggs is super unlikely to do it

[terse flame]

Like this, not much for the third person

Both teams go left

Last two moves for blue can go up if third player not there (what I did) or go down, saving third player a wasted move

[golden crest]

Is this Adv13-12?

That would be great. I'll just wait for Cleaver to show up as the boss for Adv 13, and also hoping that it would give buff to marksman.

I'll try Adv 13 after saving 15 portal charges.

[near radish]

this way you have already 3 versions of path... for physical/pure dmg team

for magic damage based team need to use mirrored versions

[pliant drum]

Would be nice to see who is available for adventure before you start it.

[terse flame]

I actually dun even invite players….usually someone will join in a few hours

But I control 2 accounts, so basically 9, 11 and 12 map r all set when I finish, 3rd player can come and finish at his own pace

[terse flame]

Yes, u can tell by power level of nodes not captured

[pastel roost]

Black is illegal to move

[near radish]

???

[pastel roost]

From the +health node direct to the 1st node in the niddle is not possible ... that path cannot be done with 15 movement points

[near radish]

my calculations say it is 14 moves

[near radish]

it is 3 moves... 14 total for whole path

4 moves to clear 2 nodes on right side and return back to starting position then 10 more to the boss

[pastel roost]

Hmmm ... still 2 attempts on the boss ... but no misses allowed. With proper buffs this is possible. Thanks for this interesting idea

[near radish]

i always kill this boss with single attempt...

since my boss killing team was 550k

[pastel roost]

I kill him with my OSH team in 1 when supporters get a buff

[near radish]

this paths which were discussed today were meant to leave most free moves for weakest player.. and definitely node #19 - one just before boss on left side is much more difficult

if you have celeste - replace isaac in osh team with her...

celeste with axel patronage is best tank for this boss

[pastel roost]

Okay .. i will try this as my Celeste is much stronger than my Isaac. Then i can try Adv 13 at last i think

[near radish]

this is celeste i use for this fight:

more than enough to tank cleaver

this team takes about 0:50 - 1:10 to kill this boss depending on daily buffs:

[pastel roost]

I have no Orion as i do not like him 😉 ... but with Osh team and Celeste instead of Isaac, i have a lil bit higher strength ... my Nebula is just Red and in the middle of her Ascension development, but enough

[near radish]

i use orion because he is faster than seb...

but osh team with just celeste replacing isaac also works well - isaac is nearly useless in this fight

slow, low dmg... celeste deals some minor dmg but also disables some of boss healing

[placid granite]

Do you think Celeste of 60000 power can tank against Boss Cleaver?

[near radish]

which cleaver?

adv 4 or 8 she will be more than enough.. for 12 or 13 would need testing - probably depends on what stat does she have upgraded

and what is rest of team... mine with less than 72k can easily tank adv13

[placid granite]

For Adv 12. I hardly see someone to place Celeste as a tank.

[near radish]

actually cleaver doesn't really need a tank - his strongest attacks are on furthest hero or hit all of them

celeste needs just to survive first hit - axel especially so high should let her survive 1 or 2 attacks without beeing one-shoot then she starts healing

making her tank works only if your damage dealers go behind her so it won't work with teams based on dante. karkh and so

[formal warren]

wow

[buoyant widget]

Hello Heroes! I have a Question, any ideas on how to defeat 'Galahad Boss adventure 5' when your level is around 70 ?

[stark axle]

just use your main team, but swap a hero in that attacks single targets often (yas, jhu, heidi, orion to name a few)
if u have a physical team, go with the physical heros out of those, if u have a magical team, choose one of the magical ones 😉

[brazen lava]

What adventure map for 13 today

[formal warren]

wow

[magic beacon]

Mojo has done his great job, enter the battle and die :))

[near radish]

nebula in his place probably would do much better job

[slow roost]

Could anybody advise me how to relatively safely beat this enemy team with a 105 Team Level team in Adventure 9?

[stark axle]

if u have isaac, its super easy

whats your main team tho?
in adventure 9, thats usually enough

a mini jorgen would also help (15k)

also mini seb to not get energy locked by that jorgen

[viral topaz]

Asgard osh team

Isaac eats them for breakfast

[slow roost]

Martha-Celeste-Yasmine-Dante-Asta

Isaac instead of who? Or just do the whole Asgard Osh Team?

The thing is... I do not want to experiment in an Adventure. I don't want people lose chests because I can't figure out stuff 😄

[stark axle]

if u have the whole asgard team ready to fight, its the best choice.
so it will depend on how u skilled your heros

[slow roost]

Sidenote: My Neb-Seb-Isaac-Jhu are not well developed since they don't need to be for Osh

[stark axle]

dante and yas will both struggle against that team a lot

[slow roost]

I noticed 😄

[stark axle]

and also: that team is in that place EVERY time. so unless u spend a week building isaac, better do a different route

as u will spend some time at adventure 9 (10 is the worst, just do 9 until u reach around 400k to do 11)

[slow roost]

I hear you. Thats why I bother the good folks here 🙂 I'm expecting to be in 9 for a while (since I'm only 107 anyway) and people leave me the top route

[stark axle]

show your top 10 heros, im sure we find something to make it easy

best would be with power numbers (from expediton screen)

[slow roost]

gimme a sec and thank you

[slow roost]

Being a thorough player I of course do not have any expedition outstanding 😄

Dante is 60+, other top row heroes 40+, 2nd and 3rd row are around 30K each

[stark axle]

as your isaac will still be too weak to make a difference, just go with jorgen+seb.
leave out yas

and then also leave out one of celeste or martha.
if u can play manually, leave out martha, if not, leave out celeste

maybe u could even leave out asta and use rufus instead

in the long run, dont level jorgen that much. hes best when weak

iris also works relatively weak, just get her health glyph up to help her survive

she could also be an option here, if u leveled her health glyph a bit already

[slow roost]

That... that worked!

[stark axle]

nice 😄

in the long run, anything that works PvP, also works in adventures

[slow roost]

Thank you so much! I almost always see Jorgen-Seb in opposing teams (people keep telling me if the enemy has Jorgen, use Seb, if he has Seb, don't use Jorgen)

[stark axle]

ur welcome 🙂

[terse flame]

Osh team, remove either Martha or Nebula and add Dorian

[bronze wharf]

i assume i need to wait until someone in my guild reaches level needed?

or will it reset tomorrow

[stark axle]

just wait

i think it resets after a week or so

the longest i stayed in an adventure was 4 days with no problems or resets

[hushed wave]

nobody else is level 40?

[bronze wharf]

they are, but they have their own tutorial

and only single person that i can invite isn't responding

[hushed wave]

unfortunate

ig u wait lul

im waiting for an adventure 8

[stark axle]

i wait for #13 ^^

with time u get more patient.
i dont even care if one adventure needs 3 days to complete anymore

as long as we get 4 boxes

but usually its done under 24 hours

[bronze wharf]

well it's new server

[terse flame]

currently waiting in 13. AD1 can be done by 2 players, i thought. All AD can lasts for 7 days (one of the quiz questions)

[bronze wharf]

thanks!

[terse flame]

try not to repeat AD1....always play the highest AD that u can get 4 chests on

[bronze wharf]

well i am doing tutorial

[terse flame]

I hope u have deep pockets...for new players, i would advice not playing this game unless u expect to spend money 😅

[bronze wharf]

i did spent a little, under 20 dollars

don't really plan to spend much

[terse flame]

hero wars mobile requires less investments....for web/fb u def. need to spend upwards of thousands to be competitive

[bronze wharf]

i don't plan to, so it's good, so far enjoying the game

[stark axle]

well depends on what u want
if ur happy outside top 20 arena and can ignore titans, its possible under 50 dollars

my heros would still be of use for lower gold

[terse flame]

under 50 total? or under 50 per month?

yeah, if u dont care about totems....but should prolly get Isaac team for Osh as high as possible quickly

[stark axle]

16 euros total in over 2 years

[terse flame]

i thought web 30 is more than 2 yrs....

[stark axle]

i still make top 50 arena daily despite breeze center still being on my server

[stark axle]

yea?
i started october 2020

[terse flame]

i c....3 yrs this yr

I will be 2 yrs soon

[stark axle]

top 50 is quite easy with that

osh works as well

actually i have players in my guild that spend like 40 dollars every month and do worse than i do, so this requires some planing and a lot of patience

[random field]

I used to spend the equivalent of 40USD a month, purely on 4x sale and VF, but now, I have got to the point where only VF is really needed 🙂

[near radish]

this is not tutorial.. it is first normal adventure, after tutorial is completed

[bronze wharf]

I consider it tutorial when they highlight it and you can't click anything else

[gloomy geyser]

Hi. Is there anywhere to read which adventure 13 is next?

[near radish]

yes - just look which boss is inside portal, though it is actual one... next day will be random

[gloomy geyser]

Ah, thank you. I did not know that yet^^

[near radish]

just scroll adventures back to 9 and check which picture out of 9-12 is matched

[near radish]

and you are right though i can't remember it forcing you to start first real adventure... can be some change after i did it last time or my memory

[gloomy geyser]

I play adventure 13 very rarely, because I don't have so many strong heroes to defeat all combinations without problems.

It was always a coincidence which one just ran. If you have more than 10 portals but 2 attempts pay off

[near radish]

you can always use 1 adventure to complete daily quests for 2 days... in some time zones it is even possible to do it for 3 days

[violet loom]

You didn't feel the need to spend on golden tix?

[random field]

I still do that, but only if I deem it worthy. Totems and Seeds are great, the rest... not so much

[violet loom]

Elemental and Ascension only? Cool

[radiant heart]

Expect to spend $20 to $40 per month

[terse flame]

That should be fine

VF, seasons r the best value

[radiant heart]

It's important to belong to a guild with players that have similar strength heroes. That way you have many options to run pet adventures

[radiant heart]

If you don't want to wait for other players to join, you can leave the adventure in the adventure log.

[terse flame]

For me, that’s secondary. I would try to get to a gold guild with 7500 titanite and 65000 activity every day

[bronze wharf]

thank you, our guild master helped me, now i need to rush 45 level to help him

[magic beacon]

Albus blew killing both Kayla and Aiden :))

[rocky blade]

Is there a description somewhere of what the average reward is for each adventure ?
The description gives the max, but you frequently get quite significantly less.

[stark axle]

havent found one

but - its save to say that its best to just do the highest adventure where u can get 4 boxes savely daily

that way u can max a bit more than one pet per year

[rocky blade]

Well I don't know, in my case that choice is between adventure 4 and 1, and I'm not sure the amount of reward difference is really worth the 70 chaos particle. If there's a very large difference, yes likely it's more valuable. Also I need to synchornise with the other player for adv 4, and they're not always very reactive.

[stark axle]

i mean u spend how long in adventure 4? 5 days?
if u keep doing #1, u might not even be getting the stone u want

so just do 4. then do 5.

then 9 and so on

i would be mostly doing 8s at this point by stones i need. but i do 13s daily since half a year

i have better pets as a vip5 then the average vip15 in my guild

thats the difference between 16 euros in 2.5 years and 16 euros per week over that time frame

[terse flame]

never go back to do AD1

always do the highest that u can get 4 chests on, unless u can get 3 chests on Adventures 2 stages higher

[near radish]

rewards shown on adventure is just max drop values from boss chest

3 other chests have less max...

min value for each item from chest is half of max

[rocky blade]

I'm doing that because I know that whatever stone I get it's useful (I used to invest about everything on Oliver, but now I realize Fenris and Axel are useful too, especially Axel with Martha).
If I could use only one, then the calculation is different.

Anyway for me, the most important is hard, measurable facts about how much I lose exactly in reward by doing one instead of the other. And it's surprising so few people have them exactly.

I also take into account that if I accumulate a lot of high level stones that I can't use because my pets don't have that level yet, then it's not great for progression either.

[rocky blade]

Thanks a lot for the precisions Debren, this is useful

[near radish]

what i managed to to find is it can drop anything from 50 to 100% with 5% step..
so it can be 50, 55, 60, 65....95, 100% of max value but there is also chance for particular items - first chest always drops potions only, but second drops 1 item out of 3 possible... but can't find odds for each of them anywhere

[rocky blade]

I'm going to write down what the team got exactly each time from now

[terse flame]

eventually, u will be doing AD13 only, and u wont need any of the data

[terse flame]

for me, the beginning ADs r one time only...beat it, and raid it enough times for the quest, and move on to the next one. I was not smart in the beginning and did a bunch of AD1 trying to farm the gems, but found answers on reddit that its better to do higher AD (so you get more resources) and use the extra CP to buy the gems you need. HOWEVER, since Great Storm now includes those gems, so better to just keep doing highest AD

you need so much CPs, so better to do as high as u can....curious how many AD13s will be needed to get all the pets to V+3....1500?

[near radish]

i think much more

[stark axle]

its 80k CP to max a pet if u get the gems from other sources

if u include the gems, its 85k

[near radish]

574 cp is max possible result for single adv13

[stark axle]

not sure what the average return is. at the moment i calculate at 100/day

but should be higher

[terse flame]

on average, i think around 200

so 400 AD-13 to max one pet....

2800 for all

[stark axle]

so my assumption of 1 per year wasnt too bad

[near radish]

assuming odds for all possible results equal it would be 33 for second chest, 33 for 3rd one and 116 from boss chest on average.. so about 180 per adventure

[random field]

At this, and only have these up to v+3

Guessing around 1000 adv 13s to get them all to base V+3

then maybe another 750 to get them to max v+3

but by that time has come, another pet has been released

[terse flame]

u have 200 more AD13 than me, but ur pets r way ahead of me

maybe also bad luck?

i only got 2 in +3

[random field]

Yes, but I've done way more adv 11 and 12s too, don't forget 😉

[terse flame]

true

[random field]

Plus now in the great storm events, I'll solely rely on storm chests, as I have all the pets that I want to ab star now 🙂

So more CPs that way

[stark axle]

this is it for me

[terse flame]

Not bad for 101 server

U must spend a lot to not have to do much AD12 before doing bulk on AD13

[pastel roost]

When are my heroes strong enough for A13 ??

[stark axle]

depends on how u level them
i have seen someone being strong enough around 450k, i have seen someone being too weak around 800k

knowlege is also very important here

and also how good your guildmates are in terms of power and knowlege

there are possible routes in 13-12 that allow for a very small player 3

[near radish]

another thing is other players teams - one path is immune to magic, other immune to physical and middle one has both

[radiant heart]

where do you get this data?

[radiant heart]

It's as much about hero diversity and knowledge as it is about hero strength. The map also matters. I will run 13, if the map is lvl 11 or 12, not 9 or 10. Because level 13 has 100% resistance, you need to have enough strong heroes that can do both magic and physical damage, depending on your path.

[pastel roost]

Okay, i would do 13-12 the right path with the magic resistances as i am more the physical damage dealer

[tired arrow]

Which map is today in adventure 13 (web version)? I am still in an active adventure, so I can´t see it..

[stark axle]

9

[tired arrow]

I need to ask again today: Which map is today in adventure 13 (web version)? I am still in an active adventure, so I can´t see it..

[tired arrow]

I just found out that it is still 13-11 (Orion) for about one more hour.

[stark axle]

does your guild have a discord? ask there

if not, ask them ingame

[pastel roost]

i try A13-12 today for the 1st time ... funny nodes they have there ... Mashy and Dorian on a +250% Hit Points Node ... so i need Celeste, but wait - the other buff is -100% Magig damage ... honestly: that sucks

[vague valley]

hej

[near radish]

why celeste? just strong damage dealer to deal enough dmg... in most cases mushy is far outside dorian's aura

[pastel roost]

they were pushed back by Dante ... but Arachne stunned them, so all is fine

[near radish]

also this debuff blocks only celetse's damage... her heal block works as always

and funny node is when you find isaac in 100% phys dmg reduction

my best was isaac, satori and cornelius combo in 100% phys dmg reduction node... while my only serious magic dd is orion

[pastel roost]

nice target for corny 😉

[near radish]

and even nicer for satori

[tired arrow]

Our dicord is not very active and I needed a quick response. Anyway, thanks for your quick reply last time.

[odd steppe]

one shot adv 11 boss with 350k team

[odd steppe]

https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1679999735931795908

[sleek patrol]

ok

[balmy glade]

my new team

[vague valley]

3 tanks, 1 bad damage dealer and dorian

with a stupid team pet

[long turret]

horrible

All white too

[long turret]

Reminds me of my friend who used

[terse flame]

so......u r hoping Dorian can heal ur whole team?

[vague valley]

replace daredevil, use aurora or maybe astaroth instead of chabba and rufus only for magical opposing teams

[shy star]

chances? 100 cain soul stones

[vague valley]

mini pet grand prize

[shy star]

never knew abt what mini pet grand prize

pet grand prize of the day for me was mara

[terse flame]

got a few of those

[terse flame]

mine was Biscuit...useless....

[green mulch]

congratulations

[twilit ridge]

na i got absolute star cain at lvl 41

in case u don’t believe me

[shy star]

Nice

[pastel roost]

Congrats !!

[stark axle]

nice 😄
do u do dante then?

[twilit ridge]

Hi hi im back so im thinking that i abandon my old team ( helios luther kayla qing mao and peppy )

And change it to nebula rufus dante sebastian and martha

I need to grind them all up but i already got nebula rufus and dnate to violet

I thinking of replacing sebastian with heidi

cuz I can’t pull seb😅

And I will try my best to pull martha im still trying

Yeah thats all

Im grinding up heidi rn

[unreal tartan]

reminds me of that person who used 5 tanks for defense teams

[long turret]

Foundry

[unreal tartan]

that is super defensive but a good defending team ought to have a pure healer

[long turret]

Nah, the 5 tank team is just there to buff health at CoW foundry

[unreal tartan]

the health is for healing though

[hushed wave]

nice!

[stark axle]

there are a LOT of routes, so comunication is key

if u open it, try to comunicate the routes, and then also try to open as much as possible - it is possible to get the boss killed with just 2 players

or, if your quite weak, there is an option where the weakest only has to do 7 moves or so

[stark axle]

arena is relative strength, adventures are absolute strength, so nope.

does not matter, but in that case i guess ur also not the weak player in your guild

but it will enable the adventure for weaker ones sooner

i mean in my guild we have someone who is rarely in top 250 and he does adventure 13 almost daily

just because we are around much longer

so, not sure about adventure 12.. i think i started doing it around 450k strength. but i have seen guys doing adventure 13 around that power as well

as long as u have a 100k+ dps and some good synergy, ur fine i think (and i know your dante is stronger than that already)

[spice bane]

One of the players has been AFK at the starting point for nearly 36 hours. I presume they are leaching. Is there a way to kick them? Also, My player team is level 78. Do you think I can just kill this boss while he has his +60% buff?

I'm tired of waiting for this person to do anything, much less destroy the tower.

[terse flame]

12 can be done with 400K teams. Not sure how strong and what type of teams you have

[terse flame]

errrr.............u made arena top 10 with that team??

[terse flame]

Phew, much better. Ur team should be good for AD12. I use same except I swap iris for Martha

[terse flame]

Markus is pretty good hero

[brazen geyser]

All I want for Christmas 🎶 do do do is axel-at-ultimate-stars 🎶🎵🎶

[brazen geyser]

What’s your team?

[brazen geyser]

Bro the luck omg I’ve been waiting for over 2 years this makes me mad 😠

[terse flame]

I am missing artifact grand prize

Pet will eventually get to absolute

Not too worried

[brazen geyser]

I haven’t gotten any lol (apart from super titans and astral seer)

[terse flame]

Really??

[brazen geyser]

Yep

Nearly 2 and a half years (ok 2.3 really)

[terse flame]

Cleaver?

[terse flame]

I don’t count seer….I think that has higher chance than the rest

[brazen geyser]

nOooo

[brazen geyser]

I’m so unlucky lol rng hates me or smth

[terse flame]

For u? Mid or right

I run this so get to finish early and wait for others to join.

I play both accounts so usually done in 5 minutes 😂

I’ll get use to it

Yeah, he’s weak

At most 2 attacks is needed

[vague valley]

I opened all the chest in adventures.

[lilac zenith]

Damn

[lilac zenith]

His Dante die it's gg

[vague valley]

I did raid in adventure.

[terse flame]

As level 96, u should not be doing AD2

[torpid mirage]

Some people don't move in adventure.😭

[terse flame]

Yup, due to time one difference. PM them to let them kno

[stark axle]

its normal, just PM them and be patient.

[torpid mirage]

thank you,I will try

[placid granite]

To counter 200% increase health buff (#12,#13), what the power of the attacker should be increased IN GENERAL?

[stark axle]

its not possible to answer that.
i have seen guys at 450k win, i have seen guys at 1M lose (in #13)

in 12 i have seen guys at 900k lose

so if u use no brain at all, its 950k for 12. and u never should do 13

if u know what u do, waiting longer than 500k for 12 is a waste of time and ressources

i think i did 12 at 480 and 13 at 550

in short: knowlege is more important than power here.
and i dont know how much u know.

[placid granite]

I want to clarify that I respond to fish. His map mentioned is Adventure 12. I mean #12 is squad #12 and #13 is squad 13 of Adventure 12.

Both squads (#12 & #13) are health increase 200%. But #12 has one more buff, pure damage 90% resist.

I prefer to fight against an enemy with 50% damage increase rather than that of 200% health increase.

[placid granite]

I (550K) carelessly open Adventure 12. No one come in for 2 days. At the third day, I lobby a guildmate of 660K by PM. Then he joins. Several hours later, the third party (the strongest) joins but not play. At the fourth day, I urge him and he finishes the adventure that day. That is my first Adventure 12 experience.

[rose sequoia]

Better than my first twenty or so a10 experiences with incompetent guildmates taking incorrect paths, losing, etc... I couldn't even get it complete with four chests for about fifteen charges

[covert cipher]

Exactly.

[terse flame]

I guess ur guild doesn’t have many strong players? 12 is easier than 11 IMO

[terse flame]

My map is 13-12. Health buff is not the issue, the resist buffs r the one you have to worry about. Usually I run my main team for health buff nodes

[near radish]

node #12 has fixed magic damage based team = isaac solves all problems there
node #13 has regular, random team so power you need for it depends heavily on your team, heroes that happen to be there and daily buffs

[stark axle]

#13 has both combined.
if u have corvus on that node, i have seen people over 1M fail 3 times in a row

well its 100% damage increase ofc.. but well

[near radish]

especially with +300% tank attack daily

it comes to counters you can use and ability to deal with heroes countering your main team

[torpid mirage]

It's been a whole day in the adventure and one of the members is not moving. He logged in, I've messaged him.

Sad...

🥲

[stark axle]

at the beginning its a lot about educating members

your server is still young, talk to them

if they dont listen, u have to make a decission - if the guild accepts that but u dont, move on. if its not tolerated in the guild, kick the slacking member(s)

the goal should be to find like-minded players. if u want to be competetive, look for others who also are.
if u just want a pass time, look for others who also want that

[torpid mirage]

Thanks for the advice.

really helpful.

I'll try.

👍

[pastel roost]

Take your Osh guild raud team. If the buffs are in your favour or if you are strong enough, you will take him down in one

[near radish]

take osh team, replace isaac with 70k celeste/axel patron and cleaver goes down in one attack...

[pseudo cipher]

whats the recommended power level for adv 10?

[near radish]

as high as possible... usually it is not recommended to start it below 330-350k but exact numbers depend on your team and how you can deal with heroes countering it

also most players completes this adventure just once, use raid to complete quest and gets back to 9 until they are ready to do 11 regularly

it is only advanture map that allows 0 fails to get 4 chests

[pseudo cipher]

so its better to try and get it done once and raid it 3x for like the quest? adv 10 sounds complicated

thanks @near radish

[near radish]

can't remember how many times it needed to be raided for quest.. but with no fails allowed this one is to easy to lose chest becasue of some strange hero/buff combination

[spice bane]

This jerk has been sitting here for over 96 hours now. Can we kick them or what the heck are we to do?

[unique flower]

Can you chat him or not?

Don't act so quickly.

[spice bane]

I've been sending him chat messages since Friday morning

[unique flower]

Does he chat with anyone or just him alone? How many inactive days you set to kick unactive players out?

[near radish]

only way to kick him is to kick him off the guild...
but it won't change anything in adventure - this slot is taken and nobody other can join

[spice bane]

Nothing since Thursday. Don't know if I should take my shot on the boss with his single tower buff or just wait longer

[unique flower]

Take the shot on the boss, but only if you have enough heroes power, then log out.

[radiant heart]

I am fighting a 100% magic resist square. Yasmine is on the opposing team. Will Helios defeat her, or will Flaming Retribution be ineffective due to the magic resist buff?

[radiant heart]

96 hours means you have missed several opportunities to start new adventures. In the future, just leave and start a new adventure.

[near radish]

100% magic resistance means ANY MAGIC damage dealt will be reduced by 100%...
so 0 damage from any skill that deals magic type damage, including all helios skills

[radiant heart]

so, it's still magic damage, even though it is rebounding physical damage? I'm double checking because my Corvus is only 44k and not strong enough. I'm not sure how to counter her.

[near radish]

it is not any rebounding... just read skill description: any time ally gets critical hit - sphere shoots fire beam at enemy dealing magic type (violet number) damage

if it was physical they would use red number... remember that only physical damage can be critical

[radiant heart]

actually, it calls it "retaliation damage"

[near radish]

retaliation, not reflection or rebounding...

[radiant heart]

yeah. so how do I defeat Yas?

[near radish]

= make own attack in response to enemy's

most obcious counter like helios won't work... it leaves helios, celeste, outhealing her dmg or killing her before she can kill anybody

[radiant heart]

I tried this lineup on a different square and it didn't work. Perhaps if I use Axel as team pet and put him on Corvus?

[near radish]

control effects like stun or energy drain can slow her down

[radiant heart]

My Jorgen is decent, Arachne is a little weaker. Jorgen probably won't help because of the magic resist.

[radiant heart]

You think Celeste will help? She's my #2 hero, but with 100% magic resist she is useless as an attacker. I could fight manually and keep her in light mode.

Corvus may not last long and Cornelius is going to target Celeste

[near radish]

celeste removes remoces yasmine's poison and maes her much less deadly...
i use Osh team with astaroth instead isaac in such cases but yours may be to weak

[radiant heart]

Osh team? Martha, Sebas, Nebula, Jhu, Isaac?

[near radish]

yes but without isaac - astaroth in his place but mine is much stronger and your heroes may be not strong enough

[livid niche]

Question, if you're 1 of 3 and leave an adventure because you ran out of moves, can someone else join (take your place) to finish it?

[near radish]

no - there are only 3 slots and only 3 players can join adventure

if they cannot complete adventure with available moves - they fail

[livid niche]

thanks

[long turret]

Best loot I've gotten in so long

[placid granite]

Which skill does Sebastian deal big damage? Why?

[near radish]

blue one:

but this skill doesn't work alone - it needs some strong physical damage dealer, best if he has critical chance buffs...

it basically adds same amount of dmg as hero who triggered it but with nebula's buff it can be almost 4 times more than original attack's dmg

[cinder fulcrum]

Not "best if he has critical chance buffs" but MUST be... Sebastian second skill buff only heroes that already have a critical hit chance thus the blue skill never fire up for heroes like Dante, except during the sebastian 1st skill duration if his first artifact is decent leveled, and even there the chance aren't that great. With heroes like Jhu or Yasmine instead, green and blue skill always work

[near radish]

not really... i can post you many screenshot or replays where jhu's attack doesn't trigger this skill... there is no such thing as guaranteed critical hit

[cinder fulcrum]

Sure... "always work" means that Jhu always benefit from the skill, if he crits

While Dante never benefit from it

[near radish]

and dante or keira or any other non-critcal hero quite often triggers sebastian's skill

[cinder fulcrum]

Quite often is a lie... every now and then

And only while Sebastian first artifact buff is active

Because Dante do not not have a crit stat, thus green and blue skill never fire except during sebastian first artifact buff

[near radish]

or jet in team... or any other hero with critical chance artifact

[cinder fulcrum]

Clear... but if you count only on first artifact buff, without a self critical chance, is a not so high gamble... but yes, it works every now and then

If you use sebastian for his control preventing skills, it's ok, if you use him for criticals you should use critical hits hero, or it will be only a side event that happens sometimes

[unique flower]

I must argee with you on that.

[long turret]

Forgot to check on the battle, 3 heroes died

but Heidi could still beat him

[placid granite]

But I seldom see Jhu-Neb-Seb team fight against Adventure and Storm Boss.

[terse flame]

I use Isaac Osh team against Orion boss (AD13-11 map)

[marble oar]

early

[cinder fulcrum]

HEre you find skill cooldown for every skill of every hero https://hero-wars.fandom.com/wiki/Skills#Skill_Cooldown
Blue skill is always active, green skill has 7 second cooldown

Dante green skill activate after 5 seconds and then 18 seconds cooldown

[violet spoke]

Hey make 14th adventure map it's easy peasy for veterans 13th

[stark axle]

14th with tree maxed
15th with ascension also maxed
16th with pets also used, so true maxed 😉

or something like that

[violet spoke]

Yeah exactly 🙂

After acsention, it's become easy to clear 13th

[stark axle]

i would try 14 with good buffs i think..
not strong enough for other ideas

but 13 is usually no problem, and im only vip5

we even have vip1 players in 13th adventure and they do very well

[vague valley]

I would try 15 on my 600k hero team acc

Maybe try 16 with good buffs

Jorgen just makes it way too easy to defeat enemies without Seb

[stark axle]

oof.. when i look at your dante, they should be in 12 at least..
but we also have vip15s doing adventure 11.. after over 2 years in the game
those guys started a bit later, but they still have 2 years i think. a year ago, i already had that frame for 13

[covert cipher]

well, are all of your pets maxed out?

b/c mine aren't

[cinder fulcrum]

Well... make potion be traded is ok... remove them hell no, not everyone has all pet maxed and they should be able to run high level adventures and collect potions

[stark axle]

they will be relatively soon
im maybe halfway thru chaos particles, but i have enough potions lieing around for 2.5 more pets or something

these are my weaker pets

i think u need under a million potions, so it should even be enough for 3 new pets aka the next 3 years

[stark axle]

in those they should reduce the drop rates of potions, and instead raise the drop rate for CP - i wouldnt even mind if the max rewards are the same, just better droprates 🙂

[near radish]

i think you underestimating potion abundance...

heavily understimating

[covert cipher]

yep

but he will be good on potions for ages

[stark axle]

so im covered for 6 years?
lol, im a small fish

[near radish]

more like 7

[fathom thistle]

Hi. For the great storm shop, does anyone remember how many shop coins the common and regular gems cost? Those gems were added in the January or March 2023 great storm event but the wiki doesn’t list their prices.

[pastel roost]

Too much to consider buying them for coins .... inverst in chest and buy then with chaos particles

[fathom thistle]

I actually want to write a little bit of code to compute which is the better option. I think the lower tier gems that I am asking about only cost 1000 shop coins

[near radish]

mission impossible...
you don't have odds for gem drops

or any other drops in adventures

[fathom thistle]

CP drop from storm chest (probability is listed in the wiki. ) vs buying gems for storm coins.

[near radish]

and how do you plan to value other stuff in this equation?

[cinder fulcrum]

It's not an "official" drop rate, only a calculation based on players opening chests... thus it's not 100% accurate

[fathom thistle]

I only care to compare those two items because gems can be bought for great storm shop coins or bought for CP. (and we all know CP is the rarest resource of all the pet resources)

[fathom thistle]

It’s good enough. 🙂 if someone wants to watch some recent storm chest opening videos and tabulate the results I’m happy to see hear how that compares to the probability written in the wiki.

[near radish]

pet summonig eggs also can be converted into cp.. though amount of cp you get this way isn't very meaningful...

with probabilities from wiki it is about 43.8 coins/cp

[pastel roost]

Via the pet shop? Whereyou can buy only once a day?

[vague valley]

how did dante do so much damage

[near radish]

his ult is very powerful.. and some of hits got critical so they got double dmg

[marble oar]

i have seen this happen to me once

but that boss dmg is limited to 1% of his hp

so his ult dmg is not revelant here

and i am also wondering how that happen

almost like game bugged and forgot that boss can take only 1% dmg

[pastel roost]

Victory is victory, isn't it ;)?

[undone gyro]

how to exit the adventure, there is no exit button

[terse flame]

Goto log

[undone gyro]

??

ok thx 🙂

[fallow glen]

Is it possible to move a gem from one pet to another?

[fathom thistle]

No

[tribal scaffold]

due to dante's violet skill

gets rid of a ton of strength points for gala which means ton of health just disappears

[unreal zealot]

https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1681009030672803301
my boss suddenly lost half of its health what

right after my albus used its first skill my boss lost half of its health

bug?

[lone heath]

It was Dante, the same thing that was just being discussed earlier in the chat.

Dante's 4th skill is decreasing his Strength, which reduces his Health as well.

[unreal zealot]

i thought it was only for the duration of the skill

did this skill get a typo or smth?

yeah its only for five seconds

[lone heath]

I can only guess, I'm still a new player myself, but I'd have to say it reduces his Max Health, which then cuts his actual health to reflect that. When the debuff expires, the max health returns to what it was, but the health that was lost is not restored.

[unreal zealot]

its the white bar that appears over the health bar

its probably a big bug rn

[lone heath]

I don't know if that is intended how Dante's supposed to work... it would only do that against Strength heroes.

He was just about dead at the end when Dante used it again, but I'm guessing it would not have had quite the same effect because the boss's health was already lower then what the max health would be dropped to when the strength stat was debuffed.

[livid niche]

I have a dilemma over pet advancement priority. I have Cain at V+1, Oliver B+2, Axel/Fenris B+1, Albus G+1 and merlin, mara, biscuit, khorus silver(grey?). Starting off, I was using Oliver as main team pet, got Dante and then upped Cain for him.

Recently I've tried Axel, with good results.

I am thinking of bringing Albus to blue for Seb patronage, is that wise?

Then promote Axel up, while farming gems for Cain

I'm using Axel as team pet, oliver, cain, fenris are patroned

[near radish]

depends on what you need for your team
albus blue for some bonus stats to seb is good option but then if you use any tank or isaac for Osh meta - oliver to violet, if not - axel as team pet

[livid niche]

Albus to blue is cheaper 1st option, then Axel for team and Oliver for Osh (as working on Isaac/Jhu as side project)

[silver fable]

agains i have problem in adventures, others joining but they dont understand the rule, how it works 😦
the private flag not an option, because need someone to do daily, but when he stepp same then my, i think its just a troll and not i am the guild master.
Need do something, because now i just burning the portal point. like negative list in adventures, posibilities to exclude player joining to my started adventures.

[terse flame]

Do private

[livid niche]

Do you post up route options in adventure chat? maybe PM them the wiki adventure link (or similar), or vent in your Guild Chat.

[silver fable]

level 2 adventure i started i step 2 in middle line, not touch buffer. The second joined player stepp 5 in middle and turning left, fight only 2 position and get burned 30% physical attack buffer. He not fight to boss - Its a troll!

[silver fable]

one of guild member same level than me, joined third and helped out this situation, mission accomplished 100%. I wrote in guild chat with game wiki page to adventures.

[near radish]

unfortunately there are some ppl without basic intelligence required to do adventures... we had one such person in guild joining every adventure even though his team could barely kill anything with 5 attempts or more

only way in such cases is to use private adventure option or kicking such person from guild

[cinder fulcrum]

In my guild I PM those players and try to explain them the issue. If they continue to mess up adventures to other players, after 2 PM, I kick them.

[remote salmon]

ヘラルドの瞳のせいで、倒せませんでした。　I couldn't beat it because of the herald's eyes.

[near radish]

it is why you kill herald eyes first

[covert cipher]

yep

[long turret]

You couldn't beat it because your team is bad

[near radish]

team is one thing but 2 eye buffs are main reason

[proven birch]

How much team power should you have for adventure 10? I tried it before at 280k and the buffs on enemies like Yasmine were too much for me to finish without a defeat.

[near radish]

usually it is advised to not try it before 330-350k... but exact numbers depend a lot on your team and how you can deal with heroes countering it

good team with a some lucky roll on daily buffs and enemies on chosen path can clear it below 300k... but some enemy/buff combinations can make 500-600k teams fail if their composition isn't good

[bronze wharf]

i hate this so much

[marble oar]

thats happens

[near radish]

wait until you start doing 13... and get like 10k of those when all pets are 130 and you will have spare potions for next 4 or 5 pets in bag

[bronze wharf]

at least i got some titan rng and got hyperion early

so i guess it's fine to not have it elsewhere

[livid niche]

For adv 9 at level 102, what route would be best attempted, left, right or centre

[near radish]

one with enemies and buffs that give you advantage

for example - usually it is bad idea to go route with physical damage resistance if your team use physical damage dealer

[livid niche]

do different routes have different damage type teams to fight, as I haven't done it enough times to realise it.

[marble oar]

yah

top one is very magic heeavy

if you play dante and low power last fight in top route gona destroy you

[livid niche]

Good to know, I had suggested middle route to a lower level guild member, who uses Yas, Maya, Archne, celeste, Asta. Hope I didn't steer him to doom.

[remote salmon]

This was the result of breaking only one heraldic eye.☆I am a Japanese player, so my game language is Japanese.

[remote salmon]

I am raising Yasmin, Arachne, and Celeste now, so I am persevering with this organization for now.☆I am a Japanese player, so my game language is Japanese.

[livid niche]

Look at Enemy Buffs before you confirm attacking, often it's 200% against you. No matter how good you think your team is.

[livid niche]

Just got to coolant tank, how many waves are there in a row?

and how many attempts do you get, does it reset each day or what?

[hollow bone]

9 waves, 45 shards max. you get one attempt per day

[livid niche]

wrote in wrong link dang it, Thanks for answer.

[pastel roost]

potions should be exchanged for chaos articles, once all your pets have reached lvl 130

[bronze wharf]

Sure, i will see you in 3 years

[violet loom]

Just to understand, if private group is created, it means only invited guild members can join right, unlike the public where any guild members may join?

[stark axle]

yes

[proven birch]

How to deal with this Amira team in Adventure 10?
https://www.hero-wars.com?replay_id=1681170113475354667

[near radish]

your problem here is chabba - probably safest option would be replacing arachne with astaroth

amira herself is not real problem if you have strong damage dealer... but she wil destroy your team if chabba prevents you from dealing damage

[proven birch]

Okay, thanks. Chabba died in that attempt, so that should make it easier.

[near radish]

now it is much easier anyways - after failed attempt you don't need to bother with paths anymore - just fastest way to clear eyes and boss

[violet loom]

Thank you

[tribal scaffold]

ish vs amira 🤡

[novel mountain]

tenebris or araji?

[near radish]

none of them is used in adventures

[echo sequoia]

hehe, Nebula > Keira \🤡
She has no ap either so..

[stark axle]

get to lvl 130 asap to do adventure 13

3 heros over 120k and not even adventure 11...
what a waste of ressources

[echo sequoia]

What's bad about having somewhat buff heros for doing 10s?
My Isaac is only 69k rn so I'd probably fail 11s. Nobody in my guild does 13s that I know of either.

[stark axle]

i did 11 when my strongest was like 70k.
if u fail there ur doing it wrong and wasting ressources

if ur by far the strongest in your guild, OK u have to wait for them to catch up..
but if there is someone bigger than u u can do 11s at least, do that

11 is easier than 10 anyway

[near radish]

10 is worst map - there is no place for single mistake so 3 mistakes allowed in 11 make it easier to get al chests

[echo sequoia]

Okay, thanks. I'm the 3rd on the GW list. I am not sure how I would do on 11 since I cannot do it yet. Guess there's one way to find out 😄

[stark axle]

then hurry up to make it to lvl 120. its 12 days f2p, but u dont look that f2p.. so just do it tomorrow

it will be worth it, bc its also helping your guildmates

[echo sequoia]

I made 1 purchase a year and a half ago \😂
I want to buff up a bit more but yea then I will rush to the top

[stark axle]

why are u that low level with that much time then?

are u skiping quests to keep your team level low? thats wasting a lot of ressources

[echo sequoia]

I am testing how far I can take O+4's. So far I am at a 143k Keira but she still has a skin and some ascension

[echo sequoia]

I found a way to spend energy without it contributing to xp

[stark axle]

ascension is caped at stage 4 if ur not red

[echo sequoia]

Yeah, I know. ):

I think I have enough for red, lemme check

[stark axle]

but why?

whats the point? your hurting yourself

[echo sequoia]

I find it fun being buff and also low-level. Progress is getting a bit slower tho

I'm at 748k rn, and like 508k titan team

[stark axle]

well, last time i did spend is also around 1.5 years ago.. total spendings arre 16 euros.
im over 920k/620k

[echo sequoia]

woah nice!