campaign

[jovial smelt]

Satori ig

[warm wolf]

who is ig?

[patent tree]

In game?

[warm wolf]

haha...good....NOT INSTAGRAM...haha

[broken trench]

..its i guess

[patent tree]

You don't say ig for I guess, that's just silly ngl

[gloomy canopy]

Ofc ig means I guess

It makes total sense lol not silly

[patent tree]

Idts, tn

[gloomy canopy]

I think it's fine, most ppl use it and other ppl understand so it's a fine shorthand

[patent tree]

Ffs, ktd.

[gloomy canopy]

🤡

[lean shell]

gi

[patent tree]

Gi, Gi, G

[clear zephyr]

been having lots of success in chapter 15 running dante jhu iris and martha, that probably work for path of madness too

[gusty bone]

yah

until alte stage of ch 15

i am stuck on endles abyss time out

[past prawn]

2 priest to hard 😛

[gusty bone]

i am stuck on stage 1

can not generate enough dante ultis

[dense crater]

as it turns out - this corny is quite enough for ch 14-15 (with celeste buff surely) 😕

[river mason]

I struggled on some stuff in c14 w Dante tank but C15 seems easier

[south galleon]

What is that??

[dense crater]

spirit asylum

[south galleon]

Where is it?

[dense crater]

ch 15

[south galleon]

?

In compaign?

???

[gusty bone]

ednels abyss done ! 19k mini heidi my secret wepaon lol

i was timing out on first stage beforee adding hnm .. jhu or iris were nto helping

and few times in the past he helped too

[gloomy canopy]

L + ratio

[gloomy canopy]

Tell Mango that Monke saved your poor Dante

[robust shard]

My Heidi isn’t getting me anywhere

[spice rapids]

ooh, fun

[jovial smelt]

😋

[spice rapids]

[jovial smelt]

👉 🗑️

[spice rapids]

🐟 👉 🗑️

[jovial smelt]

🥭 🔫 🐟

[gloomy canopy]

Are you dummy bruh Biscuit doesn't counter Isaac

The counter to Isaac in a Satori team is Arachne...

Then Seb counters Arachne

Then Biscuit patronage counters Seb

Then Khorus goes back to counter Arachne bc Seb failed

Then Satori dies

[spice rapids]

ik i just said biscuit cuz i forgor what countered isaac

i have arach tho :p

[gloomy canopy]

🤡

Can't believe he went along with it too lol

[spice rapids]

yea ik lol

[river mason]

damn the elemental spirit asylum is gunna take me ages

[jovial smelt]

try doing it with level 50 one star fire totem

[river mason]

cya in 3 months 😂

[jovial smelt]

i took 2 months

[gloomy canopy]

Was that me?

[tepid jewel]

v

[clear zephyr]

i m curious, how many fragments do you get, i got water totem i lose at wave 6, getting 22 a day for that

[gloomy canopy]

Depends how strong your titans actually are, not just the totem

[jovial smelt]

me

[jovial smelt]

I got up to wave 3 or 4

usually 13 a day, at first it was 9

[charred cove]

I'll need some weeks maybe months here

[lilac crag]

I changed the pets and managed to beat seymour

[gloomy canopy]

Also me

[torn parcel]

🥳

[robust shard]

How’s that Galahad working for you so far

[robust shard]

Why tho? Stats?

[patent tree]

Pure damage.

Pure damage doesn't need to be backed up by penetration. So heroes that deal pure damage, Maya, Keira, Galahad... Are good in pve modes.

[past prawn]

becouse there have low armor in there so he not lack armor pen

[coarse thorn]

Keira need armor penetration for her violet skill to work

[gloomy canopy]

Really just left Heidi nowhere bruh

[dim dove]

or iris 💀

[haughty moon]

I'd had the Iris role if there was one

[robust shard]

Oh so usually gala can’t penetrate armor right

[robust shard]

Nah

Monke supreme

[spice rapids]

monke 👎

[haughty moon]

fr pure damage is the best for campaign

[haughty moon]

or use them both

although it's kinda expensive

[robust shard]

Eh iris only 2 skins tho, the ascension tough tho right

But can’t I use the intel stuff for iris after heidi done?

[gloomy turret]

wait what does intel do

[haughty moon]

well ofc. But you need like 2 seasons to do one

[robust shard]

Oof long time

[haughty moon]

unless you spend on the seer and stuff

buy bundles etc

[outer widget]

helpppp

[haughty moon]

😴🛌⏲️

[outer widget]

he so strong

should I change the lineup?

[haughty moon]

who's rushing you

lol

when I was stuck there, I forgot about it; came back, beat it 1st try

[tall void]

it could be the fact that ur heroes are really weak

[gloomy canopy]

You can do Asta Dante Corny Faf Martha so you're using your top DD and also Faf helps increase PA. If you think Yas can tank, tank her with Cain and ditch Asta

[gloomy turret]

You got to chap 14 with two Violet +3 wow

I have 4 +3 and I can't even get past chap 11 lol

[gloomy canopy]

That probably means your team is bad

Also tbf they have Orange Dante

[gloomy turret]

that's true

[gloomy canopy]

Is your team bad?

[gloomy turret]

My strongest heroes Orion Nebula Jorgen Astaroth Celeste Helios Martha Dorian and K'arkh what would u reccomend

I'm also trying to level up Dante and Iris rn

[gloomy canopy]

You probably spread investment too much

[gloomy turret]

I'm also f2p lol

[gloomy canopy]

If you spread few resources over many heroes, you end up with a lot trash instead of a few good

[gloomy turret]

so like invest in a few good ones?

[gloomy canopy]

As you can see from my name, I'm also f2p... that's not your problem

[gloomy canopy]

They don't even have to be that good, Campaign is pretty easy. Just invest into basically 1 dmg dealer and then you do much better in pvp, Campaign, etc. than someone who spread their investment through all 5 heroes in their main team or even 15 heroes in their GA setup (btw, you're not supposed to build 15 heroes until very late game or else you end up with 15 trash instead of 5 good)

It's a little about who you pick, but for a lot of early game, it's mostly about how you choose to invest

Anyway I gtg now so bye lol

[gloomy turret]

Thanks for the help @gloomy canopy

[warm wolf]

i c

[warm wolf]

yup, listen to the wise

[dire oar]

Fighting Seymour, how fast does Martha charge, Jhu and Faceless are quicker, but get attacked before Martha's ready. Is there a reason?

[clear zephyr]

maybe you're martha is too big so less energy gain from seymour attack?

[dire oar]

Martha is a little bigger than Faceless, but I'm investing in faceless more than Martha atm. Thanks, it's something to ponder.

[dim dove]

total power does not matter there, health is important

[gloomy canopy]

Armor and MD are a little more important than Health here

Seymour's attacks all do like 800k-1m+ so they decimate most heroes

Thing is, he has no AP or MP so Armor and MD are really clutch

Martha would generally have higher defensive stats than Faceless I presume but Faceless does give everyone extra MD

[gloomy canopy]

And maining Jhu actually doesn't help that much, maining a different DD is much better

[dusky cove]

not really

[gusty bone]

i got to seymour with dante without developing a tank and i cant do anything agaust him

i see my guild amte who had old schol khark team and is only lvl 129 already beat him

[warm wolf]

nice! can u please share the karak team setup?

[gusty bone]

astaroth,khark,neb,faceless,martha

[warm wolf]

when i see the video, i feel like faceless just COPY the heroes...

[gusty bone]

bear in mind he isnt just lvl 129 his team is 450k power

[warm wolf]

haha...ok...hope my OWN team can beat it...we will see...still LONG way to go...but i did copy down just in case

[dim dove]

just keep doing what u do and run over him on auto with a 900k+ osh team in 2 years

if u do it right, 800k will also work

a lol, maybe even 700k.. just realized that im not even at 800k now

and my auto attempt is like 4 months ago or something, it was no problem

[gloomy canopy]

No Jhu used?

[remote sparrow]

I beat him with like 600k I think

That team

Nearly osh

[dim dove]

this was my first successful attempt

[gloomy canopy]

Why Luther? And Albus on Jhu? And Albus active?

Why can't I beat it with my team 😩

🤡

||The truth hurts 🥹||

[remote sparrow]

Idk, it worked

[gloomy canopy]

Why was your Luther so strong

[warm wolf]

happy 4 u

[gloomy canopy]

He did it a long time ago I think, this is just showing it

[warm wolf]

haha...ok

[supple marlin]

imagine martha doing 1 mildmg

[dim dove]

it was one year and 2 months ago 😉

[warm wolf]

wow...LONG time ago

[dim dove]

im around here for a while now

[wicked meadow]

what happen, if you fail the campaign mission Technical Division Part 2 please?, you have to collect again 300 coolant?

[dim dove]

u cant fail it

[wicked meadow]

well i meant if i cant kill Astrid in wave 2 or so 🙂

[dim dove]

u collect as much as possible. then next day try again, and again collect until it adds up to 300

so u collected like 9?

thats a long grind then lol

[wicked meadow]

yes i have it full (316/300), and access to the mission now

[dim dove]

ah ok

no, coolant is done now, it wont come back

[wicked meadow]

ok thanks, i just have to beat it with 3 stars and go into chapter 15

[dim dove]

but u will have spirit asylum in chapter 15. same mechanics but with titans

[wicked meadow]

oh ok hmm 🙂

[dim dove]

u have to beat it with 1 star like allways to get to chapter 15

[wicked meadow]

yes, thats right

[dim dove]

its just a normal mission

[wicked meadow]

ok

[charred cove]

I am doing this one right now. complicated....

[dim dove]

not really once u accept the fact that it takes some time
thing is, u need time to strengthen your team anyway for the following missions, so it does not matter where u wait.
just turn auto on, make yourself a cup of tea and once tea is ready the mission is done

[tight cipher]

oh finished runaway princess finally

[dim dove]

welcome to the game then, your warmup is over

[tight cipher]

yeah, bit by bit

[jovial smelt]

Welcome to the warmup, the pre-warmup is over

[gusty bone]

one downside of dante tank it cant beat seymuor ;p

not at lower power at least

[dim dove]

with dante u need half of the osh meta anyway, so just use that team to beat him later.

[gusty bone]

yah bit guild mates who have had different teams beat it already ;p

[dire oar]

if using Jhu against Seymour, which pet is better patron Albus or Fenris?

[gloomy canopy]

Imo Fenris for the AP

Bc the dmg cap is so low, Jhu will already be doing max dmg

(with his pure dmg)

So I would just give Jhu Fenris and hope for the best on his phys dmg

[gloomy canopy]

Wut bruh

Outrageous

[dire oar]

I must be fighting above my weight

[dire oar]

if you were to compare Seymour to Osh, what level osh would it be?

[gloomy canopy]

Extremely low for Health, relatively high for dmg

Well everything is kinda different

In terms of defense, Seymour and OSH both have pretty high defensive stats (Armor/MD) where Seymour is around ~150 level OSH

But Seymour only has 6.7m Health, which is less than half of 65 level OSH

However, he also is meant to be killed by 1 player in 5 minutes without buffs (in contrast to OSH, who has levels and is meant to be killed by 30 players in 2 minute sections each)

And Seymour also has a very low dmg cap of 0.5% max Health (around 33k) whereas OSH has no dmg cap

In terms of offense, Seymour's attacks do way way way more dmg than even 160 OSH could ever hope

But again, there's a reverse to that - Seymour has no AP or MP, so all his attacks can be halved, three-quartered, etc. just with a good amount of Armor and MD

Meanwhile OSH doesn't have such powerful attacks in comparison to Seymour, but much more AP/MP depending on the level

So really every aspect of the 2 bosses are different, and as I said, I think that's due to their different purposes

Where Seymour is a 1-player job, OSH is meant for many more

🤷🏻‍♂️

[dire oar]

Thank you for all that, is there a way I can save it to read later again..

[gloomy canopy]

Idk like a bookmark maybe

[dire oar]

"Seymour has no AP or MP, so all his attacks can be halved, three-quartered, etc. just with a good amount of Armor and MD" that bit helped me a lot.

[wind tiger]

Seymour defeated with KNO.

[torn parcel]

Well done! I used same, only with martha in the back

[gloomy canopy]

How long ago was this?

[gloomy canopy]

How does your Dante live?

High Armor?

He can dodge Seymour?

How? Seymour has 164k Strength

That sounds super sus bc even max Dante can't dodge some heroes... but can dodge Seymour? The wiki must be wrong lol

Sometimes in max battles I'll see random people just hitting Dante when he has Cain patronage and active - they only have ~15k main stat, Seymour has 164k main stat

Max Dante can't dodge Satori

Max Dante can't dodge Celeste*

Max Dante can't dodge Fafnir*

*if above a certain promotion

[floral sedge]

yes

[wind tiger]

Of course, Dante can't dodge magic damage. Only Heidi can.

[gloomy canopy]

Ishmael

[wind tiger]

... with the new ascension from Asgard, yes.

[gloomy canopy]

Yeah ik

[gloomy canopy]

How much Dodge does maxed Cain give?

I can use wiki nvm

So max Dante + max Cain patronage has 15k Dodge roughly

How does 15k Dodge work against 164k Str in the Dodge formula?

Ok we plug in numbers

1 / (1 + (164000/15000)) = 15000 / (15000 + 164000)

Should be around 8% chance to dodge only (8.3%)

@gloomy turret how did you break laws of math? Or did I break laws of stupid

Also I am not forgetting abt Green skill, I'm just thinking of first slam which should be before Green skill

Max Dante Dodge is 12.3k, Cain is 2.9k. 15.2k Dodge against 169k Strength

Sorry I got Seymour's Str wrong

It's just over 169k

So the chance to Dodge should be even lower

Yeah but you guys said your Dante dodged

Makes sense

Most of the time tho does he?

8% exists ofc but it's low (you guys made it sound like 50%+ success rate with dodging)

Sorry I think I misinterpreted then

Yeah ofc I know Dante has good Armor tho

Altho idk why I was so skeptical abt the Dodge when my 130k Jhu can Crit sometimes... and Dodge and Crit use same formula...🤦🏻‍♂️

I think I'm just dumb as hell

No I mean I'm dumb for thinking you meant Dante had 50%+ Dodge rates

And I'm dumb for not thinking of my own low power Jhu

Who uses the same Crit/Dodge formula as Dante

Although Jhu is probably only using Crit when his arti weapon (maxed) or Seb's arti weapon (lvl 97, 4 stars) is up. Or both ofc

Yeah I mean I wasn't thinking about it in a reasonable way 🤡

[midnight shell]

yeah me at level 60

[patent tree]

And in end game, you will probably not use any of them.

[gloomy canopy]

#💬general message
My old team 😎

Well actually, my old old team hasn't been shown on this server

[jovial smelt]

Astaroth and Theam maybe

[silk ivy]

same, they're so weak rn, what can I do

[lavish frost]

is anybody else having problem with trying do upgrade hero skills page?i can't open some tabs under hero.

[torn parcel]

Everyone... they musta done an update and it's buggy as hell

[lime steeple]

that update are specifically for p2w

[lavish frost]

@torn parcel thanks, glad to know its not just me

[warm wolf]

hi all, what is that purple frame, blue circle in front of campaign door?

[sly crescent]

It's the timer for buying some stuff from merchant shop..
#📢news message

[warm wolf]

oh..thanks

[dense basin]

Quick question: What is the bottled energy icon that is currently on the left side of the campaign portal (has a countdown timer on it)?

Web browser version of the game by the way

Hovering with mouse does not provide any tooltip, and it is not selectable

[gloomy canopy]

It's pointing to the shop, I think it's about the secret wealth shop

But yeah they definitely need to clarify

1. its purpose
2. that it's not a demon doll type thing

[dense basin]

I thought I had seen this before and it was tied to earning bottled energy for energy spent in campaign was what I was thinking. But, this appears to be different

But, it does appear to have somewhat of a pointer towards the Merchant, and the newish secret wealth tab does have energy you can purchase for emeralds, so I am thinking you are correct

But, the timer on the secret wealth tab does not match up to the timer on the item in questions...

[gloomy canopy]

Yeah, I don't know what either 1 corresponds to. Check the community.hero-wars.com post and see what it says

[dusky cove]

timer on this icon is just timer of whole event, timer in merchant is for stock refresh

[gloomy canopy]

The timer in the secret wealth merchant isn't aligned with the other merchants tho

[dusky cove]

each merchant has it's own timer

and here - 1d event and they tried to push several refreshes to drain more emeralds

[lyric cliff]

how ???

[gloomy canopy]

What?

[lyric cliff]

yeah that's why i post

[gloomy canopy]

Why did you post it?

[warm wolf]

can dante fight against rufus?

[lyric cliff]

i don't understand how i got this far with orange +4 enemies

[gloomy canopy]

They're quite weak

[lyric cliff]

yes

[gloomy canopy]

Campaign is pretty easy

[lyric cliff]

but the frozen visage

tho

[gloomy canopy]

Because unlike normal heroes they don't have 4 skills so they're much easier to beat

[lyric cliff]

i thought they had 4

[gloomy canopy]

No

Only when the enemies are heroes

Also it's rarely 5v5, only 3 or 4 at a time

And they have no pets

[lyric cliff]

yeah

[dusky cove]

no pets, no ascension

[clear zephyr]

rufus dante is awesome at chapter 13 too, got two ways to deal with the visage, if you play manual mode they re not touching you hehe

[outer widget]

you need 2 tanker

and you must have Yasmine change for celeste

2 tanker is Astaroth and Rufus

i used it and passed Chapter 13

👍

[gloomy canopy]

2 Tanks is bad

[gloomy canopy]

No need to raise up a bad dmg dealer for endgame pvp (defense) just for Campaign... Cel to clear effects and heal is fine

[tall void]

yas is not a bad dmg dealer, just bad on def :P

[gloomy canopy]

That's why I said "bad dmg dealer for endgame pvp (defense)"

[outer widget]

bro, this chapter haven't healer

[outer widget]

i passed this chapter when i was still in level ~60

should i need 2 tanker is true

[gloomy canopy]

Celeste is the 1 healing

[gloomy canopy]

Wdym by "passed"

[outer widget]

Mathar?? where

[gloomy canopy]

Did you pass with 3 stars, or 1 star on every mission?

[gloomy canopy]

Celeste heals with her basic attack after Violet when she's in light form

[outer widget]

At that time, my team only had 4 stars as the mã

max

in chapter 14, Yasmine very helpful

[gloomy canopy]

c13 or c14?

[outer widget]

💀

[gloomy canopy]

Also I meant how many stars did you get on each mission

[gloomy canopy]

Ofc you will lose, your dmg is not enough and you probably died

[outer widget]

i won and i got 3 stars

[gloomy canopy]

What is your team now?

Also you probably won bc you used Rufus

But honestly Campaign through c13 is pretty easy... c14 and c15 is where it gets harder. Still not so bad though

[outer widget]

it's the story of c13

c14

3* for 2 battle

[gloomy canopy]

It looks like 3 stars in 3 battles for me

The 1st battle, the 4th battle, and the 5th battle

Idk how you'll do in Print, RP, PoM, HW, or any of those tho

I highly doubt you make it close to Khornak

Probably get stuck for at least a week if not month

[outer widget]

1 month i can pass 3 chapter 11 12 13

no need time

with me💀

[gloomy canopy]

c14 and c15 are much harder if you couldn't tell

1st few missions are not hard, but a lot of players get stuck at RP then PoM and maybe HW before struggling up the stairs and then getting stuck at Khornak for a solid bit

Then coolant and all is good in c15, then titan coolant and if your titans suck then you're screwed

[outer widget]

BRO, i'm helping chapter 13

[gloomy canopy]

?

[outer widget]

c14, c15 gradually i'lll pass

[outer widget]

.

[gloomy canopy]

Yeah of course gradually, but not as fast as you're used to

[outer widget]

it's easy with we but hard with them

[gloomy canopy]

There will be dying, but even after you stop dying, you will run out of time during the fights. Then you have to stop using at least 1 of your Tanks and bring up a dmg Support

And the enemy power grows really fast in c14

[outer widget]

i'm helping he with team simple that they have

and fit with level

he lost even though he had celeste in his team

so I propose him 2 tankers

bcs he had martha is healer

so no need celeste

[gloomy canopy]

2 Healers > 2 Tanks

[warm wolf]

really?? any video to prove that?

[gloomy canopy]

I don't need a video...

Just in the case of Martha + Cel, Cel can also do dmg

Tanks do nothing, and if they start to die they can't recover Health as fast as Healers

[warm wolf]

now i get it

[lyric cliff]

i don't have yasmine YET

[warm wolf]

hope u will have yas soon

[warm wolf]

maya + dorian will BEAT 2 tanks as well, right?

[gloomy canopy]

Depends

Won't ever beat Rufus bc he can't die to pure dmg

[warm wolf]

oh...

that's why i think Rufus is TRICKY and GOOD to have tank

[lyric cliff]

and that wjy we have markman

[gloomy canopy]

🔪

[warm wolf]

hahaha...thanks 2 u...now i DONT need helios anymore to kill yas

[lyric cliff]

lol

vs rufus

[warm wolf]

really??

[lyric cliff]

all do physical damage

[gloomy canopy]

Maybe Rufus stalls them if he has Oliver patronage...

But no I think Fox gives AP

[lyric cliff]

ap?

[warm wolf]

armor protection

[lyric cliff]

ok

[gloomy canopy]

No it's Armor Penetration lol

@warm wolf not protection

[warm wolf]

haha...oops

[lyric cliff]

ok

[warm wolf]

i feel a bit SAD that only qing mao has the MOST AP

[lyric cliff]

yeah with her 4th skill

[gloomy canopy]

Ginger Tristan A&L Elmir Artemis have the top 5 AP

[lyric cliff]

a&l is which hero

ah astrid & lucas

[gloomy canopy]

Astrid &... you got it

[lyric cliff]

ok

[warm wolf]

but from this list, ONLY tristan seems OK...the rest are BAD heroes

[gloomy canopy]

No they're all bad

[warm wolf]

haha...i heard T is ok

[jovial smelt]

Tristan is bad

[warm wolf]

thanks 4 sharing

[golden needle]

Is this a bug, a mistake or a joke?

[clear zephyr]

click on the mission you should be able to start the next one, was the same way in ch14

[golden needle]

yeah, it was my mistake. lol. thank you.

[tall void]

u can also use 2 blue ones

(ignore the seb)

[sterile peak]

These are my top heros and i'm trying to finish the campaign and stuck on the boss. Appreciate advice. 🙂

I was new and my first guild was not very helpful

[tall void]

there is no way you can't beat seymour

just do like asta karkh jhu faceless martha

[sterile peak]

I tried and failed with 4 different pets....yasmine does almost no damage unless i'm doing something wrong

[tall void]

ez win

[sterile peak]

they all survive but i run out of time

ah faceless....

[tall void]

run on manual

[sterile peak]

can i auto or is there a method?

[tall void]

have faceless copy martha

and destroy pillars

[sterile peak]

okay

[tall void]

lets you deal more damage to seymour

or heals you

[sterile peak]

which pet? oliver 130, albus 85, fenris 70, axel 100

[tall void]

axel

[sterile peak]

not enough health on faceless....121k he's the first one to go down. I'll perk him up. thanks for the team comp

[flint inlet]

Help. Need good team for campaign

[outer widget]

chapter??

[flint inlet]

Yas

[dim dove]

tbh, its the wrong question, as everything works there

[flint inlet]

Which has the best synergy?

[dim dove]

there is no absolute best

good heros are: ishmael, dante, heidi, iris; but most of them are expensive

so the question is, whats your budget?

[flint inlet]

I can push all

But I want to have 5 with the heroes i have

[dim dove]

well if u want to push all, plan with over 200 USD per month

better 400

if ur doing that, u can join my guild in 6 months lol

[flint inlet]

Uhh

I want to push 5 for now

Who

[dim dove]

its better to pick just one of them. iris is the cheapest, but u have to be in silver league to get her
dante is the easiest to get, but u need a high asgard tree, so in the long run hes expensive
heidi is a great low budget option
ishmael is by far the most expensive as u need to max his ascension for him to actually start to work

[flint inlet]

I only have dante...

[dim dove]

so, it depends on your budget

if ur low budget, i would suggest heidi or dante, once ur in silver league, u could maybe add iris as shes super flexible and does not need much to work

[tawny perch]

ii am in chapterchapter 9

[silk ivy]

bug

[gloomy canopy]

If you're dying like this, you've done smth incredibly wrong 🙈

[dim dove]

if u want to auto, use the osh team.. depending on your budget, maybe another 3 months of leveling isaac, seb and nebula

otherwise, use martha-faceless manually, there are lots of youtube videos for that

[gloomy canopy]

Just let them do Asta K'arkh Jhu Faceless Martha, they have it all there

@gloomy turret give yt vid of K'arkh strat

[dim dove]

would be easiest if he can do manually - i have people with medical conditions who cant

in that case u have to provide a solution as well

[gloomy turret]

https://youtu.be/MdqCFQql3Nw

[dim dove]

there are what feels like 12 million videos with that team lol

[gloomy canopy]

K'arkh thing can probably auto if lucky enough

[warm wolf]

thank u 4 this video. it gives me MORE HOPE! haha...do u have a video to show SUPER weak team but STILL can beat SEYMOUR ? i m a F2P and hope i can beat that last boss with my limited resources

[tall void]

thats not a SUPER weak team

and most can beat seymour

f2p or not

[warm wolf]

so MOST ppl can beat seymour even with a weak team??

[tall void]

most can beat seymour... weak team depends on whos playing

anyone with a brain can do weak team

[warm wolf]

nice...MORE hope 4 me now...thanks!

[jovial smelt]

neb better

Oh wait that's Seymour

[whole wren]

i beat seymour with my OSH team, when it was strong enough ... no need to develop extra heroes for that

[dim dove]

he has asta, karkh, faceless and martha all strong enough already if he can play manually

as besides asta they are all stronger than mine, but i used aurora instead which makes it harder bc no revive

[dusty pelican]

please tell me the strategyrunaway princess

[torn parcel]

The next few levels can be very tricky... You have to try various combinations of your heroes to see what works best. IN most cases, your team will be able to beat it eventually but you need to be stronger.

That said: I beat RP with a Yas tank team.

[inner stirrup]

is chapter 15 a lot harder than end of 14?

[torn parcel]

Some of the stages are, but Runaway Princess is top4-5 hardest

[inner stirrup]

also, how to counter the khornak bombs at the end of 14? I've completed it with 1 star as it always kills others but dante and martha

[torn parcel]

This is tricky... many people do it diff ways, the way I did it was to use Astaroth and Martha. Both of their Ults provide a shield, so time the Ult in manual when bomb is ticking quickest and you can avoid all damage from those bombs. At least that's how I did it.

[inner stirrup]

yeah I guess martha only provides like 3k armor.. well I can 3 star it later as I dont even need to take the soul rewards from those chests now, would be nice to haev them ready for summerfest though

and dont have xp potions yet to build up a tank, I will soon though as my main 8 are 129 and heidi 120 lvl

[torn parcel]

I also used Keira, who can blind the bombs

[inner stirrup]

osh, celeste, iris, dante and heidi is who I have built up. astaroth at lvl 72 but not sure if I build him up or go for corvus instead

I guess I could just use jhu and isaac at the team, who both have enough health to survive bombs

as isaac gives 25k armour pen, dmg should not be an issue without nebula either

[oblique berry]

is it possible for this team to complete this mission

[inner stirrup]

try it, its just 1 or 2 energy lost if you dont complete. Sounds a bit hard though as there is lots of magic dmg

[dusky cove]

always can try completing this mission without other heroes - there is no rule saying you MUST use 5 heroes for fight

[inner stirrup]

yeah I guess I felt I need the full team for the fights before khornak himself

iris makes them go much faster and nebula ofc

hmmh nebula actually has more armor than martha and about same health..

iris also has more health than martha and more armor.. how is it that martha survives but those 2 dont 😛

bomb does most dmg in the middle and less on the edges?

[dusky cove]

axel patronage on martha?

[tall void]

jhu.....

axel patron + oliver patron

or time dante ult so it pushes bomb out of the way

[inner stirrup]

okay i'll try time it

hmmh yeah i guess axel was on martha

[dusky cove]

125+ lvl Fenris as team pet also can help with bomb

or at least 115, but below 125 it is pretty random

[inner stirrup]

yeah its the axel that saves martha, even oliver aint enough to save iris

so i'll try with martha jhu isaac dante

time jhu to have his ult on when bomb explodes and hope isaacs 186k+ oliver patron health is enough

hmmh the bomb has almost 500k dmg

but khornak doesnt have armor penetration

he has 74k str though

[clear zephyr]

celeste could help as well, got a guildie who got three stars at it with yasmine dante celeste martha i think, low power guy

[tall void]

isaac wont do anything tho

[inner stirrup]

well he offers armor pen for jhu at a very slow rate

dante is already beynd that

khornak only has 12k armor so its not really needed

[tall void]

this was my team back when i beat khornak

all patrons are violet

[inner stirrup]

yeah well its just dante jhu martha or dante isaac jhu martha

[tall void]

this one autos khornak in under 1 minute

133k dante

90k cel 40k jhu 74k seb and 30k martha

[inner stirrup]

damn jhu didnt get his ult on and died

isaac can take it though

[tall void]

my heroes have changed a lot haha

lol that is true

[inner stirrup]

so I guess tomorrow i'll just try time it better, and I'm building up jhu anyways so he will be strong enough to take without immortality soon too

[dusky cove]

so slow rate that it only eats martha's healing without any real profit

[inner stirrup]

well, the first wave has 2 mages

but healing not an issue, they all get to full in between bombs

just need to time jhu better

[orchid vigil]

I was able to 3-star it with dante-iris-jhu-martha, cannot remember the 5th one... timed Dante spears to prevent bombs and the second bomb, it was Martha's ult that protected team

Now I'm stuck in endless abyss, timed out... need to revisit after few weeks

[dim dove]

for me a 18k jhu (or something around that strength) did the trick there

[orchid vigil]

hmm... not sure about Jhu in my team, issue is that my team starts to ult only when 1:20 is left and then I just cant get enough damage against priest or that drilling machine... so that's why thinking my damage output is too low

[dim dove]

i used martha-faceless double speedup as my go-to mechanism in all campaign missions bc back then i had them both in my main team

so once i was able to survive the first wave with full energy, i was able to complete the mission

[orchid vigil]

not having faceless, so I will try with 'force' after I have level up my heroes

[dim dove]

that allways works 🙂

also campaign is not running away, u could just do the last 2 missions next year

only for seymour, not all teams will be able to force it.. but the osh team will

[tight cipher]

hmm for now, my martha just dies, because even if i push it out with dante it still hits her

need to time and upgrade her arti i guess

[orchid vigil]

yeah, try to time dante spears to prevent first bomb and then for second bomb my dante couldnt ult fast enough to prevent the 2nd bomb, so I timed Martha's arti for it...

[tight cipher]

i mean it still hits martha

after dante ult

[orchid vigil]

use Dante's ulti to prevent bomb altogether, if you hit in right time, there is no bomb at all 😄

[tight cipher]

it can't push it further lol

further back*

[orchid vigil]

no, but it can stun the boss and no bomb at all

[tight cipher]

oh this way

[cursive anvil]

what'r yall chatting about

btw this is literally the first time i have ever used discord so...

hi

[clear zephyr]

I think you can also push khornakk bomb even once it spawned, i remember doing it at least

[tight cipher]

it still goes into the middle if i ult immediately

[cursive anvil]

oh kornak yeah he has very strong bombs i only can get 1 star

wait you can stop the bomb with dante?

[orchid vigil]

I think I was one time little late and was also able to push the bomb near Khornak... that happened only once, usually it was in the middle 😄

[clear zephyr]

ult a little bit later so it explodes right after being pushed, can also wait till you just stomp him lol

[orchid vigil]

yeah, just when Khornak is going to release bomb, then use dante Ult and it stuns khornak and no bomb at all

[cursive anvil]

nice good to know

[orchid vigil]

but you need to timed it out perfectly

[tight cipher]

yeah did it once, got unlucky second time, i will wait for next week then i guess

seems doable with some lucky dodge rng

oh right, i just need violet axel

for martha so she won't just die

[inner stirrup]

HA! it worked. closed his hatch from spawning the drone bomb

got the bomb few times but was able to use jhu ult at the right time

[warm wolf]

learn something new. thanks

[warm wolf]

what ch is that boss?

[naive tulip]

i need suggestion for this team, hopefully someone can suggest it

[tight cipher]

14

[patent tree]

Sounds like Khornak.

[scarlet totem]

for Chapter 14, "Run away princess" , wich is second tower...i have troubling to pass through 1st wave...I'm using Dante /Iris /martha /nebula /Astra ..(those are my maxed heros at lvl -110)...and i have lvl 80 jhu....any recommendation?

[clear zephyr]

try dante tank if your dante can take it, otherwise just wait a bit your team s good keep leveling it

[clear zephyr]

stick to 5 heroes, give up at least galahad, mojo, daredevil, elmir, keira, faceless, one of astaroth or mushy and shroom

[clear zephyr]

maya and arachnea are really good together, maya group them and arachnea stuns the whole group

[naive tulip]

I just got Dante today

[naive tulip]

After Maya and arachne what else?

[clear zephyr]

dante and heidi are possible very good choices for damage dealer, damage dealer is the most important guy of your team you pick one and go all in with him if you want to succeed

[inner stirrup]

hmmh what combo would be best for coolant fight waves?

it seems I do okay for first 5 waves with martha, iris, heidi, nebula dante but then there comes mages also and usually neb drops first then heidi

should I maybe use martha iris jhu isaac dante even though its less dmg, but maybe better survivability

[humble bolt]

我有升級超級光明泰坦，約70-120級，卻沒有火花給予我

是不是被系統吃掉了

[inner stirrup]

oh yeah that works for it too?

how many waves usually ppl get to?

[humble bolt]

這樣怎麼處理呢？火花被系統吃掉

[inner stirrup]

pretty similar to what I have, I can get 7 waves with what I used

or maybe it was the 7th that they died at

[narrow agate]

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[inner stirrup]

oh so its 9 waves at max anyways

so dont matter much If I do 7, just couple days more

well I'll try different combos tomorrow and retry if it goes bad

[rare grove]

I've completed all waves with team Dante, Jhu, Issac, Seb, Martha. Dante is tanker in this case so it will require investment for him.

Dante, Issac will disrupt the healing chain while Jhu deals damage to backline. And Issac's artifact is armor penetration

[tiny meadow]

how do I find the counter by colour cheatsheet 2023? to download and be able to read it for my self - the video is too fuzzy to read. thsnkyou

[tall void]

r u the gulabar thats in s1

this gulabar?

[warm wolf]

still a LONG way 4 me

[warm wolf]

learn another trick

[naive tulip]

thanks for the guide men

[dim dove]

works with lars as well

[warm wolf]

cool

[signal lintel]

onceagain asking for good squad to clear them...

[dusky cove]

any magic or pure dmg type dd... maybe with some control heroes

[patent tree]

Aurora, Arachne, ODH...

Twins would probably work just fine also

[dim dove]

just use what u have

[tight cipher]

I pressed auto instead of trying to micromanage lol

[tight cipher]

That's why auto battle xD

[oblique berry]

should i try to beat it

[late rivet]

Yes.

[high vine]

mages are pretty good for campaign

[gloomy canopy]

If you mean magic DDs, not really

Pure DDs like Heidi, sure

Iris would be except she can't expose half the souls of Campaign creatures

But the c14 and c15 enemies have relatively high MD so magic DDs aren't great

(for Campaign)

[gloomy turret]

Nice!

[bright river]

with the heros i have what would be a good team to use for the campaign? on web version. im at chapter 6 atm, but no idea who to focus on, ive been spreading my resources too thin to keep being so broad in my focus

[clear zephyr]

wouldnt recommend leveling heroes for the campaign, both heidi and dante are among the best damage dealers of the game right now, pick your favorite and go to the moon with it, you can throw mojo, ginger, and keira into the bin, if you choose dante he can also become your tank after he gets enough dodge, you got a decent backbone for a heidi comp with astaroth and celeste (late game comp would look like Astaroth celeste nebula heidi iris/dorian) and both heidi and dante would love to meet nebula at lvl60 when you access the titan valley shop (unlock her there but dont buy anymore soulstones with ToE scrolls, they re bad value)

[lime steeple]

Jorgen lol

[hollow geyser]

does anyone have ideas about teams for orion? he's a fantastic dd, sometimes better then dante, but he dies quite fast, especially against Gala. would he work with rufus?

the heroes i'm doing atm (im going laser focus with rss) are dante orion asta M&S thea and arachne

gonna get rufus in next couple days tho

thea seems to be a good campaign healer, but i'm lacking in support heroes too

[gusty bone]

orion dorina helios

[hollow geyser]

odh? for camp?

hmm

[gusty bone]

no one makes teams for campaign

[hollow geyser]

i'll give it a go

yeah, true lol

just wanted someone to work with orion

ig dorian is the obvious one

[charred cove]

will take ages

[oblique berry]

should i go for it with this team

[dusky cove]

it is campaign.. just try it - you don't lose anything if you fail

[oblique berry]

ik

[tight cipher]

2 tanks 2 dmg dealers and not the best healer, what could go wrong

forgot the pet too

[dire oar]

If you were to list your top 15 heroes (to make 3 teams), what would they be? to use in CoW/GA

[gusty bone]

somethig with ish probably dante/heidi/iris and 3rd i would make some contorl team

[warm kraken]

Yasmine vs Helios. Thea in place of Martha. Galahad as a Tank. And Fenris as the Team Pet.

This won't end well.

Not to mention - a very significant power disadvantage (Your team ranging from V+2 to V+3 Promotion, and the opponents are O+3 and around 30-35 levels higher than you on average, with them all being 5 stars).

[hexed fern]

My rip computer on chapter 13

[uncut flicker]

What happen with your Screen Colour?

[charred cove]

Damn this made me remember my old IBM Aptiva Pentium 100Mhz with windows 95 back in 1998...when I try play something and the inexistent video card stated burning

[dense rover]

oh no what happened

[coarse thorn]

Finally chapter 14 all three stars... it was hard

[tight cipher]

gz, i am still on 1 star

[gusty bone]

i reached seymor a whiel ago but i get one shotted without proper tank

[gusty bone]

i mean my dante is higher but rest of this is inftly lower

[past yew]

This question may not belong here, and surely not a lot of folks would care because Kai is a hero that not many folks like in their team.
So the question is regarding the Kia's beach skin. the skin was available via the summer event almost 2 years ago. There's no way to get that skin now, could someone request the devs to allow that skin be available now via skin stones?

[dim dove]

rewrite it a bit more open (beach skins in general becoming available) in #📝game-discussion and then ask for others to star it to get it into #⭐starboard for the CMs to pass it towards the devs

[light bluff]

any tips for communication center cp 14? current heroes

i keep dying 2 celeste

[dusky cove]

get some damage dealer... you can't kill enemies without any dd

plus just accept that easy killing every enemy 20 or 30 levels higher than you just ended

[lime steeple]

If you ask me based off what you have I’ll suggest you fully focus on aurora and Celeste then maya and Arachne

Don’t over invest on Sebastian if u wanna do Arachne maya combo

[light bluff]

alright im not in a rush to get to clear so thank you

[dim dove]

you have a time out team, what did u expect besides timeouts?

[late rivet]

I got that skin a couple of months ago. I can't even remember how I got it - I am not leveling Kai at all. The only reason I know I have it is because I often go down to 1 hero on my Arena defense team (to drop back in rankings) and when I do, Kai is strutting around the square in his beach skin

But you can definitely get it.

Lookin' good Kai. Lookin' good. I love how he isn't even pretending to stand with the others.

[tall void]

well hes a genius hes supposed to stand out

[late rivet]

Holy crap, I have his winter skin too! It's just raining Kai skins I guess? I'd give them to you if I could, lol.

[keen comet]

Dante is one-hit killing my team on the Cape of Despair mission (8th mission in Chapter 9). I did manage to get 2 stars on it once, but I can't recall the team that I used and am trying now to get 3 stars. It was most likely 1-2 tanks, 1-2 mages, and 1-2 healers. For tanks, I have: Mushy, Astoroth, and Luther. For mages, I have: Celeste, Faceless, Orion, Phobos, and Mojo. For healers, I have Thea, Martha, and Maya. For the pet, I used either Axel or Oliver. Can anyone suggest the best group? Here's a screenshot of my heroes. Thanks in advance for any suggestions! I realize my heroes are at a low level compared to the enemy team, but I think it's doable.

[past yew]

You need Rufus, Heidi or ishmeal to counter dante

[keen comet]

Thank you. I do have Heidi, she's on the next line. OK, I'll start leveling her.

I also have Dante, I heard sometimes he can be a counter to an enemy Dante.

Thanks. Just got Dante today. 🙂

For the Tower, I find I need a good 3-4 tanks (over the course of the entire run) to get through it, but I guess that's because my Heroes are balanced as opposed to having 5 maxed out heroes.

I can get through it with max gold (60,000+ tower points), but JUST. Requires a lot of care and rotation of heroes. Tower is based off team level (I believe) and my team level is 80 while my heroes are level 58/59! Did so many raids for Pastor Seals and Hands of Glory with such a low hit rate, my team level skyrocketed but I couldn't keep up with the leveling.

I have 23 heroes, the 3 missing from the screenshot are Heidi, Dante, and Fox. I put 0 resources into Fox. Arachne and Galahad I had early so I put a few resources into them but have since stopped. Didn't put much into Heidi but I'll work on her since she's apparently better than I thought. So there are 20 heroes that I'm working on which I get is still too many. I should get Nebula soon and several weeks down the road Chabba and Sebastien. I plan on putting resources into those when I get them and abandoning one of the above heroes each time I get one of these 3.

[dusky cove]

which rufus skill counters dante?

usually rufus is just dead meat in front of dante

[tight cipher]

he is so big that he doesn't notice if some spears got into his body

[keen comet]

😆

[keen comet]

Been playing for 3 weeks and have spent $21 USD. Don't plan on spending much more than I have already, so I'll take your advice!

[valid shoal]

@keen comet 👋

[dim dove]

im on 16 euros in over 2.5 years.
focus on 5-6 heros until u reach level 130. once ur there u can spread a bit, but not too much
by now i have 9 heros usable, so thats what ur heading towards.
osh team will allways be useful, so maybe include that in a future top 10 - take one of them into your main team maybe (i had 2 quite early)

the osh team being: isaac-jhu-nebula-seb-martha

[final cypress]

guys, I will upgrade the hero to survive in the area. Which defense do you think is better?

[late rivet]

Kill Phobos

[dim dove]

last one with fafnir instead of dorian

[vapid vine]

nice job 👍

[dense rover]

I think this one

[remote sparrow]

What kagalrajas said

[steep knot]

hi, i'm on 51lv and have this champs + Cornelius. also I have 9 pets. what squad is the best for playing? it is very different to make team for campaign, arena, tower or another place?

for now I focus on Astaroth and Faceless

[dim dove]

in most PVE things (like campaign, tower) everything works, so to make a good team, focus on modes where not everything works - most importantly maybe guild war/arena

to do that, you need a strong tank and DPS - astaroth is a solid tank choice. faceless or keira are not solid DPS choices

by far the best DPS i see here is heidi - especally as most new servers are flodded with dante and heidi is maybe the most effective dante counter

also, in the long run, dont level so many heros, ressources will be scarce (even potions at some point, focus on 5-6 heros for now)

those 6 could be: tank, DPS, healer(s), supporter(s)
good healers are celeste, martha, dorian
good supporters are sebastian, nebula, fafnir

if u lack some of those, dont worry, summer fest is just around the corner, there u will be able to get most of those

[viral olive]

Should I keep raising these kids?

[gloomy canopy]

Probably workshop the team a little

You can drop Martha and Arachne for Seb and Iris/another Support

[steep knot]

I know I go for easy way right now but can you give me best combo for me right at that moment?

I get Jorgen as new champ right now

[dim dove]

asta, heidi + 4 of the others i mentioned to be flexible

[steep knot]

ok, thanks

[broken oar]

when is summerfest

[torn parcel]

most likely mid July

but no one knows for sure

[steep knot]

what is the best pet?

sry, not there

[hasty isle]

guys what's best team for chapter 14?

[dusky cove]

your main team

unless you spend hundreds of euros weekly you will not have enough resources to develop separate teams for every chapter - you should focus on 5-6 heroes for very long time

[tight path]

No, you need only one strong hero. Unlock heroes as you can, but do not level them. Dante is oopular choice for strong hero. Heidi is another. Focus on only one.
If you spread out on many heroes, then the tower becomes impossible to clear. The tower is easier the less you have spread. And the tower is most important source for gold and rare items. So you want to keep the tower easy.

[north delta]

Chapter 12 done 🥳

[cursive knot]

please I need help defeating chapter 14, level 9, Which combo can I use from these my list of hereos?

[dim dove]

level dante, drop galahad and be patient

[atomic forge]

[iron sage]

[gloomy canopy]

Are you dying or timing out?

Definitely drop Galabad, you're using Yas Dante so only 1 can fully benefit from a Violet Cain which I hope you have

It seems like you've spread your investment too nuch tbh

[warm kraken]

What is the Promotion rank of your Dante? Can't tell from the screenshot.

[tall void]

power matters more

and its orange

[fluid marten]

Promotion matters because it tells much in items is invested in the hero, with under-investment of which is much easier to remedy than elsewhere, as if their Dante is only Orange, their power could shoot up significantly by investing in promotion. It could either be Orange or Orange+1 since they look the same, except at the top, which can't be seen in the screenshot. It's most likely Orange+1 based on overall power in comparison to others.

[dim dove]

color ranks dont have to mean anything, i have seen useless red heros

[warm wolf]

good advice

[muted barn]

Finished this last year 😄

[gloomy turret]

My team level is 95 with heros Yasmine, Dante, astaroth, martha, celeste, iris, mushyshroom, arachne
How can i complete Chapter 14 print printing office

[tight cipher]

by getting your main team stronger

[grizzled path]

e

[keen comet]

Could someone tell me how recipe scrolls are used? I have 75 recipe scrolls for Screaming Blade but unlike fragments, I don't see a way to use/combine them to create the item.

[dusky cove]

you use them exactly same way as other fragments

when you find an item that needs them for creation you wil be able to use them

[silk ivy]

use galahad ofc

[keen comet]

WIth item fragments (e.g. Pastor's Seal), I can select the fragment, click on Info, and create the item in advance, before it's available to equip normally. I'm not able to do the same for the recipe scrolls.

Guess they're just different that way?

[dusky cove]

recipe scroll is complete item... recipe fragment can be used this way

[keen comet]

A recipe scroll is a complete item, is it equipable at some point?

[dusky cove]

in most cases it is a waste of gold to create items this way...

and no - recipe is used only as a part of another item

higher level items are created using several lower level items

now with reduced exp requirements for team levels there is not enough gold to keep main team with all skills maxed

[keen comet]

Right, that part I've seen (for example a higher level item being made up of a Pastor's Seal AND something else, or Hand of Glory AND something else. Haven't see (or at least noticed) any items incorporating a recipe as part of the "ingredients".

[dusky cove]

so you shouldn't create items in advance - just ones requried to upgrade equipment for your main team and when they are needed

open any hero, click items tab on left side and you can see all items required for this hero until max

[keen comet]

had a little extra gold lying around so created a few items that were needed one level up, but I appreciate your suggestion. Was hoping maybe with less fragments in my inventory, the game might be less stingy with some of the harder to get fragments like Pastor's Seal and Hand of Glory in my case.

[dusky cove]

if you have recipe - it usually says name of item it is used for

[keen comet]

Right, the example I gave was that I had 75 recipe scrolls for Screaming Blade.

So at some point there will be an item called Screaming Blade for which one of the ingredients will be the recipe if I'm understanding correctly.

[dusky cove]

yes

[keen comet]

thanks

[dusky cove]

though different heroes use different items so there is some chance you will not upgrade one needing it for long time

[keen comet]

got it

Ah, OK I see Screaming Blade now, Aurora and Faceless (among others) use it. It was in earlier stages (Green + 1). My heroes are Blue + 2 and I was looking ahead as I not recalled using recipes to create items, probably didn't notice because I had so many of them (75 Screaming Blade recipe scrolls)!

[dusky cove]

it will be much easier to notice when you get to orange and red ranks

[tight path]

You can click the items tab in hero menu. There you can click what items hero will need, and craft before hand required items.
This is handy only for doing items for your main damage dealer. Otherwise crafting items without having need for the items is waste of gold. And it is bad, there are quests which require you to dispose of large amount of items. If you craft all items right away, you will not have chance to complete these quests.

[warm wolf]

wow....like which quests need to equip items?

[tight path]

I dont know about equipping items, but destroying items. 🙂
You can do every day. If you open guild activity tab, you can see there option to "exhange items". There you can exhange items for extra activity.

[warm wolf]

oh...that one. i do that daily. thanks

[tight path]

You might want to do it only when needed. 😁

[warm wolf]

haha...yes...trying to HELP the guild when possible

[late rivet]

The game doesn't care about that, so it's not an effective strategy. The drop rates will remain constant. Plus, if you create the item from fragments in advance, it is easier to mis-click and equip it to a hero you don't want. I remember I once equipped a Diviner's Orb to Mojo when I wanted to save it for someone else (as part of a Panoptic Orb). Not as bad as doing that with orange or red items but it was maddening enough for me to never create items early again.

[high vine]

yeah drop gahalad and replace with idk keira or k'ark

[errant jacinth]

yo why does archdemon come back at like chapter 8 or somethin

[warm wolf]

what about it?

[dim dove]

imagine new chapters and then seymour coming back in chapter 18

[robust shard]

Long time no see

[warm wolf]

haha...nice analogy thank u...but for me, that is ok....

[idle mesa]

archdemon comes back because hecant go to water lands. But as you progress you learn seymore created archdemon to stop you from reaching him (thats my theory though)

[warm wolf]

yo yo yo!! How's life?? u ok??

[warm wolf]

thanks 4 sharing

[hollow geyser]

just started chapter 9, going well up to treaure island mission - i always lose to lilith 😦 i have won it with 1 star but im trying for 3 ...

[tight path]

Thats how the adventure goes. You have your main dps, you power him to max, and it gets you so far. And then you get more team levels etc, and powerup him more and get even further. 🙂

[tight cipher]

finally titan chapter

also can farm throwing knifes

[tight path]

What kind of team u used to clear chap 13&14?

[tight cipher]

it depends, i usually used my main dante nebula sebastian iris martha with axel main pet

but i needed to use celeste/isaac/jhu/dorian sometimes

[tight path]

Was your team at your team level when you cleared those chapters?

[tight cipher]

khornak is still at 1 star

[tight cipher]

dante was

rest i recently caught up after season ticket

[tight path]

K.
Did you get missions easily to 3 stars?

[tight cipher]

i came back to some after a while, but currently have everything except khornak

[tight cipher]

like i couldn't do some on auto, so i manualled them to 3 star

rest i came back after leveling a bit

that screaming enemies that deal magic dmg were pain

[tight path]

Im at cp13, progress is slow. Having 3 stars, seems impossible. 😁

[tight cipher]

used rufus to beat some

[idle mesa]

hello

[dim dove]

level your patience. 13 is still quite fast compared to 14 and 15

i mean the middle of 14 is litterally where the game used to start.. but with asgard and the level speedup, this should move even further back

[tight path]

This game have teached some patience. 🙂

[dim dove]

so i guess u can consider everything up to khornak the warm up and learning basics

hes the chapter 14 boss

i mean, some consider everything before level 130 the early game. if u do it right, u finished campaign besides seymour by that time

and by right i mean ignoring it and focusing on a team that works in PVP

[tight path]

I was ahead in campaign for 20+ for quite long time . (the enemy was this much higher lvl) Dante was very efficient. But now it seems I go at parallel. Enemies are same lvl. And when I level up, i get few more missions completed.

[tall void]

has taught 🤓

[warm wolf]

totally agree with u

[warm wolf]

once ur heroes are STRONGER, u will get 3 stars

[warm wolf]

wow...ch 14 is a MONSTER i heard...🥵

[hard vector]

ah, the old days

[warm wolf]

hope to get there soon

[muted barn]

Noob

[uncut flicker]

Lol

[uncut flicker]

Try Isaac to buff Amor Penetration

[amber spade]

Just hit level 14 and can't beat the communications room, any hints on that?

[midnight shell]

heidi kills dante 🤡

[uncut flicker]

Heidi's health is too slight. That is his Achilles heel

This event is too expensive. I will not spend any Emeralds.

Bad Stuffs

Kaka, Event shop

[midnight shell]

😒 is it a bug? i can't buy anything

[uncut flicker]

Nice Monkey

Qing, who help me against Nightmare.

[dusky cove]

upgrade your heroes

[gloomy turret]

great

[warm kraken]

Martha is very proud of her son.

[gloomy turret]

Could be hit with this team up-to 50M

[tall void]

galachad

[lyric cliff]

ok

[south tinsel]

is it his oliver patronage?

how else would he survive

[thorny harness]

ok

[gloomy turret]

a bit more with cel for markus

[tight cipher]

It doesn't work this way

Also gz

[tall void]

wRoNG chAnnEl

[maiden lynx]

how?

[burnt talon]

hi guys

can yall belive im in chapther 16

[gloomy turret]

no i cant

[burnt talon]

sick

im jk

in 15 like you

[hallow notch]

this is guild raid

[uncut flicker]

I remembered that I posted in general, sorry my mistake

[signal lintel]

Seymor..... any tips to make him dead??

[tight path]

Just make your team stronger.

[signal lintel]

my strongest team not going good against him

Yas, martha, dante, aurora, astr.. jhu, isaac, seb celes... they are in top golden+3 +1

[signal lintel]

those pillars looks so hard ... in first throw my squad dies

[dusky cove]

just make them stronger

[ripe patrol]

I found this video so useful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK2EYF4mE-Y&ab_channel=MarzukiRobert explain step by step how to do it in manual mode

My main is Asta, Yas, Maya, Dante and Celeste, they are strong enough but I only can get around 30% of damage so I decide to invest on Jhu

[north trellis]

I got a question for you all...... What team would you put together and what pet to fight chapter 14 space 9 (Path of Madness)?

[dusky cove]

same one as was used for everything before

[north trellis]

problem is that nasty healer i can't beat them before he heals them every time

makes me look like a noob

[dusky cove]

just upgrade your team

game changes - heroes get reworked, new things are added... as result player's team is much more powerful than campaign was designed for

chapters 14 and 15 was added at some point and they are just a bit more properly adjusted to player's progress

it simply ends this unnatural idea of beating enemies 20 or 30 levels higher without even noticing them

[north trellis]

awlll no fun lol

[dusky cove]

15 chapters... and that's all for campaign.. just grinding equipment left

[north trellis]

my killer team is usually Quig Mao, Yas,Dante, Orion and Faceless with Oliver as my pet

oh wow so close i didn't know

i might try changing my pet to the dragon cause he packs a punch

[dusky cove]

this is definitely not a team... it is just pack of random heroes which cannot work long term

[north trellis]

maybe that will get past his healing

[dusky cove]

if you are not spending thousands of dollars on game - this will never work well

[north trellis]

ah a pay to win game

[dusky cove]

usually team composition is just 1 DD - hero who deals serious damage and 4 heores who support him in some way

[north trellis]

oh hmmmm

omg i got an idea

[dusky cove]

1 healer, 1 tank - hero who mitigates dmg from enemies - this role is sometimes taken by main dd.. and rest some buffers or debuffers

[north trellis]

faceless can be anybody including your enemies team if i'm not mistaking

[dusky cove]

and usually all others than dd are much lower upgraded - they don't need so many resources to fulfill their roles

faceless is one of biggest noob traps now

[north trellis]

well early on i used maya and that hooded dude for shiels

Astaroth

[dusky cove]

he can be very useful if used properly but most ppl try to use him in wrong way

astaroth is a tank - good one, relatively cheap to make him useful though not best one

[north trellis]

hmmm I will have to look deeper now

possibly Alvanor

he can stack shields for the whole team

i gotta go, do my insulin now nice chatting with you

[ripe patrol]

I used this team (1 year ago), doing it manually give good result

specially with Cornelius skill

[north trellis]

thank you i will try it

[tight cipher]

i hate this music videos so much xD

[ripe patrol]

You can mute 🤣

[signal lintel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK2EYF4mE-Y

[proven sage]

Question: is there a tier list for the chars? I mean i am not even sure which tank is actually good.

[torn parcel]

There are lots, but most of them stink... also if you ask 10 people you'll get about 4 different opinions... Top 3 to start with in no order for OVERALL usefulness are Astaroth, Corvus, Aurora. Aurora sucks til she gets to pretty high power.

[proven sage]

okay that helps a bit. been using galahad jorgen celeste thea dante

i thought yasmin is pretty good

[dusky cove]

she is good early and mid game but countered so easily she loses later.. still useful in offense but not so much anymore

[torn parcel]

Galahad gets terrible rather quickly so stop putting resources into him and start building your 'forever' tank

[proven sage]

okay so that isnt only a hunch i had

thanks for that

now is the question which one should it be

[near depot]

hi

[sage topaz]

which is astaroth

in my opinion

[gloomy turret]

Hello everyone! Is this team setup: Aurora, Krista, Celeste, Sebastian and Lars good? What do you think? Because I am new to the game and I wait till the summer festival to get them.

[dim dove]

its good in offense but very weak in defense. also u need some serious investment there.

other heros are far more efficient

[tight path]

If you already have Dante, give him max dodge glyph and start using him as tank. You will enjoy him. Especially as you wont need to powerup a different, one dps and one tank, when you can just powerup one hero.

[proven sage]

That is an idea i didnt even consider.... Thanks a lot for this. i think thats exactly what i will do

[tight path]

It is good idea to ask here on discord. You get lot of suggestions to pick from. 🙂 very helpful community. 🙂

[proven sage]

holy shite! Dante works WAY better than galahad

[tight path]

And it gets better all the time!

[tall void]

good heroes.. on offense. they require a lot of investment

on defense isaac will be the end of you

or dorian

[gloomy canopy]

Good setup overall, known as "Trinity Twins," but very bad against Isaac and Dorian. Most ppl have those 2

[silk ivy]

this isaac so strong

[fluid prawn]

hi

[dim dove]

i got this isaac quite exactly 2 years ago for summer fest.. havnt spent money since then

[clever geode]

not even 2 days in on that account

[jovial smelt]

Why are all the enemies' main stat Strength?

fat basilisk = strength
pumpkin headed magic thingies = strength
marksman snake ladies = strength

[vapid vine]

campaign's fun while trolling with teams u havent built that high

[vapid vine]

lmao

the fact that the luther did 174k damage is crazy lol

[jovial smelt]

how did luther survive?

[gloomy turret]

lol XD

Im surprised that a violet 3 Martha beat a red Celeste at healing

[tight cipher]

Martha is better healer with axel main pet

Also Celeste doesn't heal in one form

[gloomy canopy]

I'm not, she's much lower investment

[dusky cove]

celeste is mainly single target healer, martha group one

it is obvious martha will be better against enemies who deal smaller hits against multiple heroes, and celeste will win against strong hits aimed at single hero

second thing is martha uses spell that heals for some time after being cast and often can heal your heroes before celeste has a chance tuo use her skill

[gloomy turret]

water totem in disguise of dante lulz

[hollow dragon]

excuse me
Herowar release Pet Season but I dont see Pet Season in game
why?

[dusky cove]

probably don't meet requirements

[hollow dragon]

pet season where?

[gloomy turret]

#💬general message

[hollow dragon]

I never play Pet Season

😭

[gloomy turret]

did u even read the post ?

[gloomy canopy]

Are you reading bro

You can't access the pet season until you complete all the other seasons before it

You're in Nature 1 rn, it'll be like years before you get to the current seasons

[fallow sundial]

wiat what i never knew that. Thats stupid of the game then. Y cant everyone have the same season and everyone progresses the same…

im in astral season how long will it take me to catch up -_-

[tight cipher]

Never since they are introducing new ones

[restive sentinel]

Because some started 2,3 or even more years after others 😉 . It is just not possible to have the same progress

[late rivet]

Peppy

[dim dove]

ziri

[late rivet]

Dang, you win. I thought I had that one.

[gloomy canopy]

If you got to the pet season right now, you would miss 10+ seasons of progress... that would be unfair to you

A lot of ppl are hating on the seasons, but no matter what, they are boosting our progress, and so if new players started immediately at the current seasons, they would lose so much progress compared to old players

[dim dove]

galachad

[gloomy canopy]

He wins what? What are you guys playing lol

[late rivet]

You wouldn't get it

[gloomy canopy]

Can you explain 💀 even in DMs

I have a feeling but idk

Just thought it was funny lol

[late rivet]

There isn't anything to explain. I said Peppy, they said Ziri. Then we see who won.

[gloomy canopy]

Hm idk if this is true or not but anyway

[tight path]

Year++

[storm jackal]

A lot of teams are good. The basic is good: a tank, a healer, support heros (krista and lars should be play together)

What do you do if the campaign levels are over??

For a sucessful hero wars game is important the mix of all - not only the camapign

[dim dove]

its a good PVP team, but out of all good pvp teams i know its the worst for PVE (campaign, tower, outland, even Osh and his minions)

with PVP, i mean arena, guildwar, clash of worlds

if your main focus is #campaign , you could use Jhu

[gloomy canopy]

Magic isn't good for Campaign, if you want to do Campaign then Dante Heidi Jhu are the likes of what you need

Idk why you would focus on Campaign since Arena and other pvp is way more important but whatever

Also Campaign is pretty easy until c14/15

[tight cipher]

finaly 3 stars khornak, just dealt enough dmg to kill bomb

[idle mesa]

is anybody having trouble with runaway princess mission?

[gusty bone]

a lot of poeple

[dusky cove]

it is just mission where warm up ends and you can't easily kill anything 30 levels higher than your team anymore

[drifting whale]

stuck there since ages

[gloomy turret]

me too

[storm jackal]

I was a lot of weeks there before I use some nice strategy for run trough the rest of chapter 14 and 15 🙂

now my campaign is finished since months

[tight cipher]

There is no need for any strategy really, using main team is fine

And beating khornak once your osh team is strong is also fine

[tight path]

any tips for a starting player to build a semi decent pvp team?

[tight path]

what was the nice strategy? : )

[sour tartan]

Hey anyone want to be friends i'm new here

And play together please 😟

[tight path]

we would need to be in same server and in same guild for playing together.

[sour tartan]

wanna do that cani also friend you

[river mason]

will my dante tank team eventually kill seymour or do you actually need a real tank

[gusty bone]

you can beat it, but it takes a while

and of course you have to get initial dodge on start of the fight

[high vine]

why is ur iris just 3 starred?

[tight cipher]

why do i need more

it barely does anything

[high vine]

is it just me
or does everyone fight enemies in the campaign that are like 20 levels above u?

the same hero died 3 times today andcame back
clue: heres my team。
astaroth, celeste, martha, keira, yasmine, and oliver

[tight path]

yes, that is everyone who have good focus of resources, good strong damage dealer. You might get to ch 11-12. Then it might slow down some.

[high vine]

ye

[teal cargo]

Use Corneilus + a Faceless should help you out with the healing for a bit.

[bold vigil]

2 Heroes in POM

[river mason]

cheers, yeah i was just wondering if possible since im not going to waste resources leveling something else so i can beat just seymour

[gusty bone]

you want to have jhu probably

[river mason]

my dante is at 118k atm

i have jhu he;s not that big though 45k

[gusty bone]

mine is 160k and i still lose ;p

[river mason]

oh wow

[gusty bone]

same as mine'

seymour requires high power for most teams