campaign

[gloomy canopy]

Yeah exactly

[gusty bone]

thats 115k dante

[inner stirrup]

well that team has 2 PA artifacts, if it had martha instead of thea it could somewhat work but there is like no defense to mention so it would just die unless overpowering opponent by a big margin

[gloomy canopy]

Well we maybe invested differently, I assume after weapon you did ring for artis, I did book after weapon

[inner stirrup]

corvus would be a huge improvement over galabad though

[gloomy canopy]

It wouldn't work anyway, two DDs that don't support each other is just ez win

[inner stirrup]

okay I got Jhu now to work a little to get that extra dmg for campaign and osh.. what should I build for him? artifacts dont matter much yet right? I'll be keeping him a baby Jhu for quite some time

probably get him upto around 30k power in couple weeks so he can work at the second ga team

[gloomy canopy]

Work on green skill if you're trying to do easy dmg against OSH and big tanks in the back

[inner stirrup]

yea guess i'll get the skills upto 60 ish anyways, i'll get that 3rd skill up to max when I have spare gold

[gloomy canopy]

Green not blue

Green is the one that's based on health, not Jhu's own strength

And it's pure dmg so no AP required

That's the important one to do significant dmg with baby Jhu

[gusty bone]

oh my guildie is changing his lineup

just neb for keria and he wi be set

almost there

[inner stirrup]

hmmh that looks like more than 40k asta, you sure his galahad was so small?

[gusty bone]

it was 45k gala last week no idea how big his asta is

[inner stirrup]

okay.. hey I have 12,5k unused str skin stones and I dont build tanks..

should I Jhu

[gusty bone]

yeas jhu is gfood idea

[inner stirrup]

default?

I will build tank when dante is 130 and maxed skills, probably corvus.. but guess I can just spend the skin stones now

how long was it to go from 100 to 130 before? I mean thats pretty much just as long to build the main team up there now too anyways..

How long I mean

[patent tree]

130, max skills, max artifact, max skins, max glyph, max gift of element, max ascension tree and max ascension class branch... Then, then, you can finally focus on an interesting character, like maybe Corvus.

[inner stirrup]

duh

[patent tree]

Don't forget to Violet Cain.

[inner stirrup]

I dont need to max a hero to use xp potions and skill up other heros

cain is already violet

[dusky cove]

so make it violet+3

[patent tree]

Skill up cost gold. Gold you could be using for ascension and titan artifacts.

Titan artifacts for the gift of elements

[inner stirrup]

yeah they wont be getting past 100 skills that fast, but titan artifacts are a waste

I wont have meaningful gw team as vip5 anyways

I just keep them strong enough to get 200-500 titanite daily

[patent tree]

Don't push too hard or you will find yourself hitting a soft wall and being unable to push deeper.

[inner stirrup]

yeah so no point in spending the gold on seals

so much wasted here 😦 I should get a whipping

[patent tree]

I know that feeling.

I still use my Astaroth sometimes, he supports my corvus on occasion.

[inner stirrup]

ouch shaman on runaway princess oneshots my celeste and nebula

otherwise I was clearing it now.. Just need a little more

[torn cairn]

The loot rewards for Careful Steps in Chapter 15 seems wrong. I'll get to step 5, which means I've won 4 waves of 5 titans each and and a couple from wave 5, but only get 17 points.

[jovial smelt]

So small

[patent tree]

Yes, must complete each stage entirely to get full reward.

[inner stirrup]

ofc he is small if I just bought him 5 minutes before that post?

[gloomy canopy]

Sure, if your Isaac has good arti weapon then PA and crit most important. If using for pvp then AP

[inner stirrup]

but no PA skin so default right?

I will build isaacs arti weapon next

and no he wont be in pvp team anytime soon, so its just that green skill and relying on isaac to provide that ap

13k ap on dante now at lvl 100.. couldnt quite max glyphs.. will take like a week I guess

but almost doubled ap already from lvl 99 😛

[gloomy canopy]

Default or crit your choice

[inner stirrup]

but he wont need much extra crit to deal okay dmg in osh team right?

I'm just looking for easy option to reach 5 mil weekly really..

without too much spending

I really want to buy those 13 stones for him to make him 3 star tbh 🙂

maybe tomorrow heroic chest will give em

[patent tree]

Are you seeking 5 mil in Guild raid? 10 mil gets you an eternal seed, but in guilds that start higher, you might miss out on that. Be pleased that you beat higher raids tho... A guild who gets 10m personal but only beats 125 boss is missing out.

[gloomy canopy]

Well if you want Seb to be able to do a lot of pure, Jhu has to crit often

[inner stirrup]

i'm in a guild of whales

my seb is just ode'r

[gloomy canopy]

Go for 10m I think

[gloomy canopy]

Oh

[patent tree]

Ode'r?

[inner stirrup]

I just need that 5mil for now, dont need so many seeds yet, if I can make a team that does 5mil on vs 125 osh it will do 10mil vs 115 or 105

well maybe not that single team, but my dante team will do like 3mil vs 115 and osh team 7mil...

[patent tree]

You will want those seeds... I am stuck pretty bad for em. Have 3, coat 100 to next level of tank branch, or 80 for support branch.

[inner stirrup]

anyways, dont really want to divert so many resources vs osh yet

I think I'll be doing a lot more this week anyways now that I upped AP by like 6k

and with other team having jhu

[patent tree]

Biggest issue with osh team is need to build up Oliver and Albus.

[inner stirrup]

better see how much I do this week before I make big resource spending on Jhu I guess..

will probably get all main team heros to 100 now and then Jhu will get there too

[patent tree]

Attack early or at near death of the boss before. It Will increase your damage output rather than waiting to the last half of Osh health.

[inner stirrup]

for Jhus dmg the boss should have high enough health so his green skill gets max dmg right?

but what do you mean about that? is there difference in what osh does at different health levels?

I think when I get nightmares I end up worst

[patent tree]

So... Jhu damage is maxed, but Sebastian damage is not. So, you will do more damage with Sebastian than jhu. Sebastian damage bonus is based off of jhu critical hits. And does an extra 110 % or so... So damage output is insane once you have high enough power

[inner stirrup]

yes I know the idea behind lol osh team

[dusky cove]

more like 270%...

[inner stirrup]

Jhu so stronk

[stone topaz]

big money blue ball

[tight cipher]

out of time for me, and isaac died

it's just rng

[inner stirrup]

yes you need to try many times

[tight cipher]

wait why are we in campaign

ah was speaking about jhu

[inner stirrup]

yeah

nice dmg on your isaac btw, I guess you've built his skills a lot?

or just health

[tight cipher]

i've done that randomly at first cause i didn't know anything, now i do skill 2

and health glyph

making oliver takes so much time

[inner stirrup]

what level osh have you faced so far and do you use meta completely or some kind of variation?

[tight cipher]

i am using my dante so far, rufus dante nebula sebastian martha

last week it was 95

[inner stirrup]

ah why seb in that team? would be better off with jhu and isaac

[tight cipher]

because jhu and isaac can't live

[inner stirrup]

ah so 20k isaac wasnt enough yet?

or did you just update him recently

[stone topaz]

bruh, have to farm another one

[tight cipher]

this

[inner stirrup]

I need to plan how to use my heroes this week also, got similar situation

as now my osh meta is complete but not sure if they can quite tank osh yet..

probably can if I wake up early to go vs 105

[serene mica]

jhu just destroys bosses

[hallow notch]

i cant believe the campaign features this!

[lime tundra]

I poster it in the wrong place 😅

[jagged shell]

Please accept my heartfelt condolences! 🙏

[gloomy turret]

wait for summerfest. You can buy the unity there

[thorny wasp]

any got a good hero team for campaign Chp 14 Path of Madness been stuck for a while

[dusky cove]

best solution is just upgrade main team until it can break through this mission... and be prepared to get stuck on another mission soon

difficulty level in ch14 and 15 goes up much faster than ever before

[thorny wasp]

ok thanks for the advise

[spare minnow]

if you have multiple heroes all leveled up, maybe try different combanations

[arctic heart]

Any idea how I can boost my A-team (without swap-outs) against the Ghirwil bots? (My A-team is , 5+ stars each and topping out at level 115 purple+2 rank, 2 star level 86 blue+2 rank.)

[dusky cove]

tbh this team is terrible - pushing dante in last position makes him nearly useless

fenris doesn't fit this team at all...
no healer
no real damage dealer - as dante on last position loses most of his eficiency

no any support for dante

you can upgrade everything on those heroes but only real boost would be maxed dante or albus and it will get stuck very soon anyways

[patent tree]

The main problem with that party is lack of pure damage. Dante is strong right now, needs high penetration to be effective. Same with Arachne. Her damage suffers in chapter 14 and 15. Astaroth is decent. Not much damage, but good survivability. I used him to 3 star Kornak.
I take it back... Galahad does do pure damage. But, he is not the best hero since his damage is not enough to do the trick. get rid of Galahad asap. Not about swapping, just stop using him all together.

[tall void]

arach isnt a dealer shes a control :P

[patent tree]

Oh? Clearly you haven't seen Arachne the destroyer of teams. Just pair with Nebula and watch the enemy team drop like flies.

[outer widget]

hey guys

how to up damage for cornelius

skill 1??

[coarse thorn]

Low level. Once you go higher level you'll see her damage scale very bad and isn't able to kill as you're used to
For a simple reason. Her damage is based on magic attack and her main stat is agility and not intelligence, thus you cannot pump the magic enough
Damage dealers can pump up their attack with default skin, fifth glyph and third artifact, plus usually the second artifact, another glyph and at least a skin... Arachne cannot

[outer widget]

helpppp

[coarse thorn]

Your question is difficult to understand. Pump up skill 1 will higher the damage done by skill 1 itself
But you asked how to pump general hero damage.

[patent tree]

Hard since it is only 10% magic attack. Physic attack penetration will help. Use nebula and time it, or use magic attack artifacts, but 10k turns into 1k to Cornelius skill... But this is per intelligence amount
indicated.

[coarse thorn]

Nebula do not give armor penetration

[patent tree]

Didn't say she did.

[coarse thorn]

Thus in what way the first Nebula artifact, that boost physical attack, help cornelius?

[patent tree]

I was mushing several tactics into one post.

[coarse thorn]

Ok, maybe I cannot understand what you mean with "magic attack artifacts"

Oh... ok... rereading more and more times I finally understood 😄

[patent tree]

Magic attack weapon artifacts. Alvanor, lian, celeste...

[coarse thorn]

By the way, generally speaking, Cornelius is a very situational hero and it's not considered a good choice for a main team

[patent tree]

I am on mobile one hand typing, sorry for terrible composition.

One day, Cornelius will become the Meta... I am picturing ascension bonus that turns heavy wisdom into targets main stat instead of intelligence...

[outer widget]

bruhh i need gold and exp for they

[gusty bone]

way tooooooooo many violet heroes for your level

[patent tree]

Gold is a premium.

[outer widget]

i tried with damage deal is 190k:))

[gusty bone]

ah so you lvl 130 ?

[outer widget]

but celestle so strength

[outer widget]

.

[patent tree]

After purple, equipment gets hard to craft.

[outer widget]

bruhh

celeste ~400k hp

[dusky cove]

chapter 14 is end of easy killing enemies 40 levels higher than your heroes

[gusty bone]

looks like path of madness is the infamous one

poeple close to 130 strugle to pass it sometimes

[spice rapids]

runaway princess is the infamous one

[gusty bone]

that one too

[patent tree]

Path was a big power check for sure. I consider the entirety of steps campaign nodes to be the path of Madness.

[past prawn]

dont thing ever seen 1 have problem at level 130 lol

[gusty bone]

doefintly saw poeple at 128 saying they get timed out ;p

[patent tree]

New leveling might cause this problem. But, Ascension did make it easier.

[spare minnow]

I got past it pretty easily, my team was Dante, I had Seb to remove debuffs, depending on the team, Cornelious, Neb to boost attacks, martha to heal, Asta to tank, so Depending on the enemy team depended on the team I put to defeat it.

[gloomy turret]

hey, whats the most effecient way to get xp? im currently grinding to lvl 44

[hidden jasper]

Hmm

It's first here

[past prawn]

i seen players at level 130 be stuck on campaign 14 boss but not befor that unless there slacking and not pushing it

or some1 that do 130 in 1 day lol

[spare minnow]

just to quests in the Dailies that have Xp, you get about 1k there, and the rest just from energy

[gloomy turret]

damn.. thats gonna take forever.

[past prawn]

4 months if you never slack

[gloomy turret]

4 MONTHS?!

[past prawn]

thats how the game is made not ment to be done fast..

[spare minnow]

I defeated the boss pretty easily, once I realized that Dante + Martha + Seb could win it. My only problem is that Seb would die, so I can't get all 3 stars, but I have the boss at 2 stars wherehas the 2 missions before it are at 1 star, so. . .

[gloomy turret]

im already lvl 37, yk.

its not going to take 4 months from there, is it?!

[spare minnow]

its a marathon, not a sprint has quite a few people have said.

[hidden jasper]

Hi, When we connect weak hero with Aiden and put weak hero Accel, the damage calculated based on the health of the weak hero who has Accel. It’s not based on their total health. So we can only deal so small damage to them.
Is this a bug or not? Does someone know?

[spare minnow]

It took me a year and a half to get to level 130 in 6 hrs

[spare minnow]

yes bug, in #⭐starboard

[gloomy turret]

ok, i can get to that. 130 is the highest, right?

[spare minnow]

yes,

[hidden jasper]

No, there is no reply

Is CM doesn't reply?

[spare minnow]

yes, there is, it is a bug

[hidden jasper]

What? Where?

I can't find the reply

[spare minnow]

'Hello! Regarding Aidan's and Dante's strange skill behavior - it is a bug. The task is in the works and the fix will be released as soon as it's done.' this is what @onyx yacht said regarding this

[hidden jasper]

This is about Aiden and Dante matter. It's not Axel thing isn't it?

[spare minnow]

Axel thing?

[hidden jasper]

Hi, When we connect weak hero with Aiden and put weak hero Axel, the damage calculated based on the health of the weak hero who has Axel. It’s not based on their total health. So we can only deal so small damage to them.
Is this a bug or not? Does someone know?

[hidden jasper]

↑this is question about axel/

[patent tree]

Check the Star ⭐ section, this jas been addressed. They are aware of the issue.

[gloomy turret]

dude, campaign gives so much rewards.

i love running campaign

[patent tree]

I like campaign for the mini games.

[gloomy turret]

me too.

is there a gamemode for just those?

i would like that

like, after you beat campaign, you can play a special gamemode that is JUST the minigames

[hidden jasper]

It seems CM only talk about Dante and Aiden, not Axel isn't it?

And I can't see why this is a bug.

Axel's skill is based on owner's HP.

[patent tree]

Well, when they fix the bug, we will see if the Axel thing is fixed along with it. Now... Please stop spamming.

[hidden jasper]

In the Axel skill, enemy can't deal over 50% or something. So why is this a bug? Should it be calculated based on both of their HP?

Please stop spamming! to whom spams

[patent tree]

You asked this same question in multiple channels. This is also known as spamming.

[hidden jasper]

I want answer.

This problem occurs among some game mode.

[patent tree]

I am sorry that your question is unable to be answered at this time. It is unfortunate that the knowledge base of the players on this discord server cannot collectively meet your extremely demanding urgency on the matter.

Have you tried Google?

[coarse thorn]

You WANT

[coarse thorn]

You do not ask, or desire, or kindly appreciate... you WANT an answer. This is exactly the right way to not have one

[hidden jasper]

What? What should I do to get an answer?

explain please :)))

[coarse thorn]

Start being kind. We're players, like you, not your servants. If you have a question, ask kindly, using worlds like "please" and "thanks", then wait for a reply, like all we do. Sometimes you get a reply in few minutes, sometimes in hours
Mainly because we're not paid to stay here and reply to your questions and we do it because we like to help players, but if that player spam the same question in multiple section and repeat the question any other message, we consider it rude and uneducated and I'm not interested in helping

[hidden jasper]

Yeah, I am kind ))))

[hidden jasper]

You don't have to reply or something if you don't want to :))
If I force you to do it, I am not kind indeed XD

[craggy slate]

hello

[arctic heart]

I'm having trouble beating the "Ghirwil City" levels without losing anybody. Any suggestions on how to improve my chances with this team?

I'm open to suggestions.

[coarse thorn]

Sorry... I was trying to write something... but I really don't like your team at all and I don't want to be rude
And I don't want to talk bad about heroes you invested so much in

[arctic heart]

Recommendations for where to put further investment (skills, skins, glyphs, artifacts, etc.)? I assume stats for all skins for a given character stack.

[gusty bone]

he asked for tips how to develop characters; p

[gloomy canopy]

Um your team isn't very good

But aside from that

You should at least fix your pet patronages on your heroes there

Maybe introduce a new hero or two? So you're not using double tank Fenris control with Dante in the literal back

No real healer (Maya's heals are trash) and bad team pet (deals 21,112 dmg per ult at MAX LEVEL)

[dusky cove]

also violet rank is a bit low for this level

[gloomy canopy]

"a bit"

Probably wasting energy trying to beat campaign instead of farm it

At least they have abs star tho idk

The whole team and pet seems weak for the level but levels are faster now so maybe not

[robust shard]

Would Rufus be good for campaign? Or is it all basic attacks

[gloomy canopy]

In later campaign, it's rare to use a tank very much

Timeout is very common and as you know, tanks usually (not Aurora/Corvus) don't deal a lot of damage

[robust shard]

Not even asta? Thought I saw him a lot in the campaign meta

[gloomy canopy]

So you usually take away your tank in favor of a support/more damage

[gloomy canopy]

Maybe up to c14 but after that timeout gets annoying so you get creative. Ofc Asta is good to have for the final boss but not much beyond that

[robust shard]

Does Rufus work as a tank for the final boss?

Or do I need at least 90k on asta or something

[spare minnow]

I had to put Asta, Quing Mao, Martha, Seb, and Dante to beat the Boss in Ch 14. Basically, I could do it with just Martha, Seb, and Dante, though Seb died, but the other way, Quing Mao died, and Seb and Asta also Died, so I'm just where I can just put 3 heroes

[gloomy canopy]

Um idk honestly

If he does magic dmg only then maybe

[gloomy canopy]

Why not just Jhu?

[spare minnow]

not strong enough, what hero would I put with Jhu?

[gloomy canopy]

Asta Dante Jhu Seb Martha or something

Assuming you pass the first stages, time ults right for armor buffs when bombs explode

[spare minnow]

Martha could never keep Seb and Dante and Herself, and Asta and Jhu healed.

[gloomy canopy]

Ofc she could, Martha is OP bruh

Also aren't you using Axel?

[spare minnow]

nope, Albus, have to to take down the boss.

[gloomy canopy]

Jhu could have helped you with that one

[spare minnow]

ig, Albus is still blue, I'm working on getting her to purple though,

[gloomy canopy]

H i m

[spare minnow]

Her/Him= It.

[gloomy canopy]

Honestly that's what I think but other people say that's dehumanizing

[spare minnow]

so no argue, lol

[gloomy canopy]

This is a lil off topic but I personally think if you're not he or she then you should be the other third person singular pronoun, it. But that's not allowed bc people associate it with objects

So that's like calling someone an object

Which is ofc not nice but if we stopped associating it with objects then it could be the other third person singular pronoun like it's meant to be

[patent tree]

So, typically, when you are talking about a someone, you refer to them as they or them depending on the context. This is just the way the English language works. The confusion comes from the plural aspect of They and Them. A comedian had a bit where he was throwing a party and couldn't determine if he needed one additional place setting, or multiple place settings.

[coarse thorn]

Finally got to path of madness... I think I'll need at least 10 more levels to do it 😄

[inner stirrup]

what level you are at then?

[coarse thorn]

107 by now

Main team power 280k

[inner stirrup]

@gloomy canopy hows my Jhu looking for campaign/guild raid usage? should I also up the blue skill a little?

will get him to violet +2 / +3 too, just dont want to farm up that shield as i'm sure it will come to one of the shops soon

[coarse thorn]

I don't think you can consider me a whale

[inner stirrup]

yeah j/k, but gold ticket user

[coarse thorn]

Yep... light years away from a whale. I will end my spending at vip 8, that means a total of 70-80 eur in 6 months... Whales are vip15 with thousands of dollars spent

[inner stirrup]

80-100k power difference to no tickets at your level pretty much, probably more now with the extra fast leveling

i really dont like this fast leveling on my second acc..

its already falling behind on levels at lvl 80..

[coarse thorn]

And? I really do not get your point

[inner stirrup]

there is no point

[coarse thorn]

Ah, ok...

[inner stirrup]

the whale reaction was just a joke

[coarse thorn]

And by the way, to be clear, I've got nothing against whales... everyone use his/her money in the way he/she wants

[inner stirrup]

me neither, I love them

they gift our guild so much

[coarse thorn]

Dante... but it's still low power (only 66k) because I made SO MANY mistakes at the beginning, wasting resources on tons of heroes, most of them crap. I'm trying to slowly recover from those mistakes

[inner stirrup]

oh I was thinking you'd have like 85k dante

yeah

I think my dante is like 66k too

I'm one step behind you at the campaign though.. lemme go try reach the same 😛

none of those opponents have energy right?

so nebula isnt needed for her ultimate there, my dd's wont have her buff to matter enough with the setup i'm going..

[coarse thorn]

I really do not have resources to build a new hero from 1 to 90+... Thus I'll stick to my main team and I'll try it back in a couple of weeks... I'll think to waste more xp potions on new heroes once my main team will be near 130

[inner stirrup]

isaac or Jhu? dont remember how many shamans there was

[coarse thorn]

Nebula ulti deal damage and activete the physical attack bonus to whole team

[inner stirrup]

yes I know but i'm not taking her with the team now

no point buffing martha with her

[coarse thorn]

Got there with this

[inner stirrup]

yeah I dont have astaroth otherwise i've got same but I have isaac and jhu at relevant power to use

also no oliver

hmmh there are actually more marksmen than shamaness at the runaway princess

so isaac wont be very relevant with just one shamaness

damn first shaman killed celeste :/ bad manual play

yes well he seems to be relevant as shamaness is so strong there.. but its just too high level still for me

celeste has to be in healing mode all the time and still dante died at the last wave

i'll get it in 5 levels though quite likely

then another few levels for path of madness 😛

oh my dante is 65k unbuffed

[midnight shell]

i'm stuck on the second to last mission in the whole campaign 😩

and my dante is 106k

bruh

[orchid vigil]

I'm stuck against Khornak's bombs... My Dante doesn't ult fastly enough to prevent bomb release and Armor artifacts in my team are too less to 'shield' against bombs

[midnight shell]

i see

i used to beat him with 1 star all the time tanking dante

but after i figured out how to use axel and stuck in thea for extra healing i actually got 3 stars

[inner stirrup]

I assume you dont have celeste already healing there with martha

[orchid vigil]

not sure if asked from me but with this team my Dante was only left alive and run out of time

[inner stirrup]

nah about thea being extra healer

but do you have other heroes to use?

seb might not be needed there, but if he is one of your 5 fattest heroes he is obviously good axel food

[orchid vigil]

Isaac is only other with reasonable power level

[inner stirrup]

no Jhu?

Jhu has really high health too, even with low power

[orchid vigil]

Jhu is 20k or something

[inner stirrup]

btw isaac might increase your dante dmg more

than seb, as isaac buffs armour pene

20k Jhu prolly has like 80k health already?

and his green skill does good dmg no matter how weak he is

[orchid vigil]

yea, need to try...

[inner stirrup]

especially if you time it so that you ult isaac before dante you should deal a lot more dmg

well, not if your armour pen is alraedy really high

vs ilyssa the weaver it makes a huge difference as her armour is really high past 100 level

how much AP on your dante?

[orchid vigil]

20k

[inner stirrup]

and which is the opponent you lack dmg vs?

or well that you just need to kill faster

[orchid vigil]

Its the Khornak's bombs which can be prevented with dante ults, but as he is not ult fast enough for 2nd bombs, those starts to kill heroes

[patent tree]

Martha and Astaroth combined can usually ultimate and protect from bomb damage.

[inner stirrup]

Khornak only has 12k armor

[orchid vigil]

its not about Khornak, its the bombs

[inner stirrup]

of course he has violet cain

[orchid vigil]

yes

[inner stirrup]

do you save marthas ult after first bombs?

[orchid vigil]

yes

[inner stirrup]

so not enough there too. would need faceless

but aint noboy want to build faceless for some campaign..

[orchid vigil]

but 3-4th set of bombs start to be problem

[inner stirrup]

you've kept martha small though?

so she charges fast

[orchid vigil]

she is 30k

[inner stirrup]

yeah I think they say that for seymour its really important to keep her small

she gets thick really easily if you give her some resources

[orchid vigil]

yeah, currently only lvls and some skills, not many glyphs

[inner stirrup]

shes basically useless on arena for me so i dont need to build her up for that either.. dante fights never last long enough for her to heal

can sometimes change the outcome by swapping in a lvl 51 dorian :P.. I'd get dorian to like lvl 70for extra 20% vampirism but so tight on exp potions

btw bombs cant be dodged right?

[orchid vigil]

I believe so as my Dante was last one standing when run out time

[inner stirrup]

yes I was thinking if cain as team pet could help there, as he adds some dodge to whole team

[inner stirrup]

btw how high arti weapon martha?

[orchid vigil]

4* and 49lvl

with her Ult I can survive one set of bombs but in the end, I start lack of ults... so maybe the issue is lack of damage

[inner stirrup]

drone damage is almost 500k

and they have 1,2mil health

[orchid vigil]

but bombs lack AP

[inner stirrup]

does dantes ult kill them or just disrupts them?

[orchid vigil]

bombs can killed as well but you can prevent the release with Dante's ult

[inner stirrup]

ah yeah you disrupt khornak from releasing them

[orchid vigil]

yeah

[inner stirrup]

just use jhu I guess

to kill khornak faster

you will be able to kill the drones before they explode too

[orchid vigil]

he didnt survive from the 2 first wave lol... but yeah, need to level him up

[inner stirrup]

with jhu ult

and dantes normal attacks

and iris, or then swap iris to someone else

are you building a tank?

or can you give jhu lots of str via default skin

[orchid vigil]

yeah, he has been off from my 'main' team... I'm raising levels too fast to have 6-7 heroes

[inner stirrup]

also building jhu ascension is nice with dante, as both gain from marksman tree

but anyways your jhu should be more meaningful than sebastian there on khornak fight

probably iris isnt very meaningful either

got any secondary healer? I know iris is good at the first stages to take out the warriors fast

[orchid vigil]

she usefull in the first waves before Khornak 😄

[inner stirrup]

but you can just do them slow with 2 healers, and keep your jhu alive

if you have like 30k+ celeste or thea

oh wait, dorian

[orchid vigil]

hmm something like this:

[inner stirrup]

yeah but jhu kinda ruins nebula, you could try it though

its just 4 energy to try

err 6 for that actually

what does dorians arti buff? phys attack right?

[orchid vigil]

I haven't update at all Dorian's artis

its PA

[inner stirrup]

yeah wont have meaning there anyways, guess you should have it pretty low on priority list for grey resources too

you giving greys for seb/isaac/jhu or all at greens already?

[orchid vigil]

something like that, I have decided not touch Dorian so might be that I just missed his artis, need to check

[orchid vigil]

Was able to beat it but not 3stars, made on timing mistake with Dante's ult and bomb killed Dorian 😄

[inner stirrup]

jhu so op

well atlaest you get to 15 now

[orchid vigil]

yea, will return to this a bit later after getting heroes more lvl up

[gloomy canopy]

Green and white are the important ones but ofc if you would like you can do all

[gloomy canopy]

Whales are VIP 6+ according to Nexters

[inner stirrup]

he's so good with the high default skin, high health even though i've not upgraded his glyphs like at all yet.. really good hero with small effort

he is already useful in some pvp scenarios

[gloomy canopy]

Because he's strength

Same thing with tanks also

[inner stirrup]

yeah and I dont even need crit for him in a long time and as I dont have other str heroes he is really good for my lineups, only need to build his default skin and not waste other common resources.. I will get him the glyphs later of course when dante and iris are done

my seb is so small theres no point in building crit in a long time, i'll rely on jhu's second skill for dmg at osh. when my main team is done I can build seb

[coarse thorn]

Muahahhahahahahah... they really know very well the game...

[little thorn]

Nice job GREEDY Nexter, Doomsdale and Wolfsfang Cliff, 120 energy and no soul stone drop, how much time you decide to disregard non vip players. And it is not the first time, happens very often.

[gloomy canopy]

It's because they were trying to get their company to be publicly traded

So if they say VIP 6+ is whale, then they can say like half their players are whales (or so)

Ofc that isn't really true but it's what Nexters said so funny

[tall void]

u mean rngesus dislikes you?

[outer widget]

there is progress^^

i can do it

i have passed 2/3 round

[supple marlin]

reached Chapter 14

[supple marlin]

the fact i cannot pass through that level even at level 105

[marble coral]

anyone know howto pass level 30?

[dim dove]

just keep playing, u will be there in under a week even if u dont pay for anything

[outer widget]

yesssssss

i will never give up^^

[bleak rock]

good roll!!!

[summer fractal]

hey guys

new here

can anyone help me on which heros to take on on my campaign

[coarse thorn]

Basic newbie suggestions:
Level only your main team of 5 heroes (maybe 6 or even 7 if you want benchmens, but better 5). Do not spend gems until you are sure you have a good grasp of the game. This is a slow game, level 60 in 2-3 weeks, level 80 in 2-3 months, than high 800k+ main team in 1-2 years. Do not spend special resources (skin stones, runes for glyphs, gift of elements, artifact resources) until you have a good grasp of the game (you won't need those buff at early level, thus keep them or you'll regret wrong use).
---- TEAM ---
A good team is usually so made: 1 tank (Aurora, Astaroth and Corvus are common choices). 1 damage dealer (Dante, Yasmine, Heidi are common choices). 1 healer (Martha, Celeste and Dorian are common choices, until you drop them, go on with Thea). 2 support/control heroes (Nebula, Sebastian, Jorgen, Arachne are used a lot). Choice your preferred team, look for their soul stones in shops and missions and stick with those 5 at least until level 70-80, than you can consider if you have enough resources to build additional heroes. Heroes seems all good at low level, but most of them aren't

One more tip: the damage dealer is the most important hero, thus you should use 60-80% of your resources to make him/her stronger, the rest to make your tank survive and then to make your healer/supports help the damage dealer survive and deal more damage
Last tip. In my opinion this game isn't playable long term without raid. Thus I consider mandatory the vip1 (1$)

[lament tundra]

If I'd start now, I'd take something fun that's good vs dante, Aurora, Celeste, Nebula, Heidi, Dorian, probably.

[summer fractal]

thanks

[bleak rock]

only 1 DD

not 3

or dante, or yasmine, or heidi

only 1 Tank, or astaroth, or rufus, or aurora

only 1 healer, or martha, or celeste, or dorian

only 2 supports, common choices meb, seb, arachne, jorgen

[marble coral]

okay thanks

[gusty bone]

gonna be long road with 17 shards per day

[whole wren]

when beating Seymour all remaining quest of "do this legendary mission" 3 times disappear?

[jovial smelt]

What's your titan team?

[gusty bone]

like 180k earth

[jovial smelt]

Ofc not, you can still go back to old missions

[jovial smelt]

Mine was 150k with a fire totem and I still got 13 a day 😂

[gusty bone]

every another stage is significant dificulty rise

titans go up 10 levels

stage 5 is brutal

since they are alrweady leve 120

with 3 super titans and 2 earth

kiuling anything there is hard

[junior sparrow]

how many stages are there?

[gusty bone]

probably iinfinite ?

its just in waves first wave asre levle 80 titans than 90 100 110 ..

[dusky cove]

9 or 10 waves total

[gusty bone]

eh probably not reachable unless whale

[dire oar]

I'm at similar stage using 3 main supers lvl 82 titans and Angus lv 90/Avalon lv 80 alt * total power with earth totem 255000+. Did my best today with 22. Bringing me to 283/500.

How long have you been playing so far?

[gusty bone]

i am lower than you

90 angus with 75 ST total power 185k

[dire oar]

I've been putting everything I can into my titans, due to GW/CoW floggings.

[gusty bone]

heh titans is expensive part ... cnat move to much without money or being in big guild with many whales which cna make titante consistnetly

[coarse thorn]

Yep... I think it's the only part of the game you have very little chance to catch up with whales f2p even in 5 years, while with enough time you can fight them a bit more with heroes

[gusty bone]

i had some few meembers pushing dungeon superhard made us 7500 for short time but they hit wall now .. and its gone

[junior sparrow]

i have only like lvl 30 titans and lvl 40 angus with lvl 50 elemental attack... have reached only stage 3

yes one of thos is arajji

[gusty bone]

heh my best shot kiled angus and araji wave 5

[gloomy turret]

you don't even do 21 with 2 star water 🤡

[gusty bone]

i have 2 star earth

water is easymode

[lyric cliff]

do someone know how to pass 10-12 Sea lane with no purple+3

[coarse thorn]

Pump up your heroes. At some points the "always win" come to an end. You hit walls and you need to get some levels and retry

[storm jackal]

@lyric cliff until chapter 15 you can all level beat with violett+2 hero teams and a strong pet

You play chapter 10, and you can beat all without violett heros, the right pet and the right hero team is need

[gloomy canopy]

I would say until c14

[river mason]

I can't even clear c14 yet with a 78k dante

Unless you meant specially creating niche teams to beat c14, which is definitely a bad long term move

[gloomy canopy]

Yea

[river mason]

my 78k dante aint not violet +2 thats for sure😂

[dim dove]

noobs getting impatient again?
its not running away, take your time.

[river mason]

i was just responding to the guy who said u can clear it with a v+2 team

[thorny wasp]

which hero is better dante or yasmine as a damage dealer ?

[dim dove]

dante in general, but if u test them against each other, yas counters him

[river mason]

A fact i have to repeat alot to people who assign GW and CoW attacks in my guild 😂

they always send me into yasmines

[dim dove]

do the assigning yourself

i mean its good that u know how your team works 🙂
in my guild i have some players who dont even know how their own heros work

[thorny wasp]

thank you will try a few attacks see which is better

[river mason]

i just tell them, sometimes they send me in anyway

sometimes if the team is around my strength my dante can 1 hit the yasmine with his first ultimate anyway and i can win

because most people around my team hero level havent invested as heavily into yasmine as i have my dante

[faint portal]

@gusty bone Did you clear Chapter 14 and currently doing Chapter 15 with Dante tank or did you need to create another mini team? I'm currently halfway through Chapter 14 but may need to speed up to do Chapter 15 to farm some red fragments eventually

[native nexus]

jorge v#3763 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[potent oracle]

ayuda en campaña 14

[storm jackal]

@gloomy canopy sorry, I have done chapter 15 only with violett+3 heros. Only the last level of chapter 15 (Seymour) I need a stronger hero team than violett+3 🙂

[patent tree]

You need a tank that can survive two hits. I read somewhere that you could blind Seymour, but it was unreliable... So surviving those two hits is the most important thing I found. Next step was surviving the first fire blast. Once you get those two things down, the rest is easy.

[patent tree]

For me, Jhu was important, he would usually ultimate during the first fire blast allowing him to survive. martha was a huge help. I needed my other heroes to be healthy enough to survive at least a half fire blast. And strong enough to destroy one or both of the pillars.

Lian and Kiera were my DDs, and Corvus was my tank. I think 400k was the hp threshold for the tank, this was so long ago.

[dusky cove]

high hp or high armor to survive his grabs

[gloomy canopy]

I think it's possible to do it with V3 heroes, but only if you're purposely stalling that aspect of progression

[tall void]

u can…. u can get heroes past 100k at v+2…

max everything except items and asc…

[river mason]

why would you do that though? so u can claim u did it with v2 heros or something ??? lol

the obvious inference when you say something like that is a reference to a heroes power level, but yes you are technically correct you can be v2 100k

[tall void]

im just saying u can with v+2 lol

and that color rank is not an accurate reperesentation of power level

it can be anywhere from like 10k to 110k or so

dk how much max tree gives u

but probably around another 10k or so

[river mason]

while you are technically correct in that u can have strong v+2s

the person who said u can beat it with v+2 is not talking about a 500k team of v+2s

you kinda seem like you want to argue semantics even though i havent disagreed with you

the inference IS for power level even if you dont think color rank is an accurate representation of power level

context is relevant, even if YOU choose to ignore it

[junior sparrow]

then who are you?

[gusty bone]

its tansues ;p but he cant even reember i have earth totem ;p

[gusty bone]

got to wave 6 today ;p

thats sti like 12 days more

[dusky cove]

something doesn't match with those numbers

[gusty bone]

upss extra 1 slipped ;p

[gloomy canopy]

I think they might be

[spare minnow]

M&S, Dante, Sebastion, Cornelius, Martha, with Cain has the team pet, is great for the collant division, took me from getting 10 a day to gettin 25-33 a day

[gloomy canopy]

When I did coolant I got to wave 8 usually, so 35+

[past prawn]

Your power was allround very high lol

[gloomy canopy]

Disagree

I mean honestly I don't remember

I think my campaign team was around 300-350k

I forget a lil

[patent tree]

Having a team of 100k violet heroes in arena would attract a lot of attention.

[narrow grail]

What do you think about Mojo+Faceless+Celeste combo?

obv aurora for tank and IDK who will heal this bunch :/

[dim dove]

celeste heals enough, but the rest is bad.

[patent tree]

Celeste heals, mojo has minor healing and faceless can be used to heal if copying celeste.

[dim dove]

the only thing this will do is charge enemy isaacs

[patent tree]

Most who use faceless, use faceless to copy specific heroes. It is difficult to get timing right on automatic for arena and defense.

[dim dove]

i see FL in control teams as well.. but i think there are better options

[patent tree]

Some use faceless for the knock up which is a K'arkh thing, deals damage to knocked up targets.

I haven't really used faceless since mid 80s. I jave him orange and leveled to 130, but basically never use him. Or K'arkh, or Jorgen.

[dim dove]

i did that 2 years ago, but there are MUCH better options for karkh teams

i still run karkh as main hero

[patent tree]

Do you Yasmine? Nebula? Kai?

[dim dove]

non of those

nebula rarly but almost never with karkh

[patent tree]

Do you use Khorus as pet

[dim dove]

bc to make use of nebula, im limited to aurora-karkh-neb-seb-martha

[dim dove]

no, still grey

[patent tree]

With Aurora and Celeste in the team, lot of Isaac silence.

[dim dove]

if there is isaac, i either use manual play or where i cant it depends on the team.. sometimes it still works with aurroa+celeste (dante tank)
sometimes i use martha instead of celeste

[patent tree]

You could sub Iris for either martha or Sebastian in that lineup.

[dim dove]

i can do lots of things 😉

[patent tree]

Options abundant.

I have a lot of weird heroes in my top 15.

Well, maybe not weird.

No Mojo, Markus or Judge.

[gusty bone]

markus isnt realy weird

[narrow grail]

Markus can basically tank the campaign?

[spare minnow]

not me

[faint portal]

@gusty bone Did you clear Chapter 14 and currently doing Chapter 15 with Dante tank or did you need to create another mini team? I'm currently halfway through Chapter 14 but may need to speed up to do Chapter 15 to farm some red fragments eventually

[gusty bone]

no just dante tank

[faint portal]

Dante, Neb, Seb, [x], Martha?

[gusty bone]

15 was super easy so far but stuck on titan part ;p

yah X = iris,celeste,jhu

[faint portal]

Ok, thanks - at what team lvl did you clear 14?

[gusty bone]

120

[faint portal]

Ok, thanks - time to start pushing then. I'm getting closer to 120 too

[gusty bone]

heh i probably got to boss by 115-116 but got stuck on khornak for a while

[faint portal]

Haha, I just didn't try, but when I think I was 110 I was having a lil difficulty trying to 3*, which I just aborted campaign and left it there

You also used the same team for Khornak?

[gusty bone]

yah bit khonrak takes a lot of try and error

[faint portal]

Ok, cool - as long as it works - all good. Will give it a shot soon (if I can reach there)

[tall void]

i do that and yeah it gives me a lot of free arena coins

[faint portal]

Capped a day though unfortuantely

[patent tree]

There's a cap?

[faint portal]

Based on what I could see - any successful defence above 5 or 6 within a reset day would not lead to any arena tokens

[coarse thorn]

5 a day, from reset to reset
All succesfull defenses after the 5th won't give any reward

[patent tree]

That is lame.

Guess you only need one alt within range to attack you daily.

[coarse thorn]

I usually get 5 success defenses without the need of that

[patent tree]

Some days I only get 1, other days, 10. Inconsistent.

[coarse thorn]

Maybe I have some opponent that aren't able to learn from mistakes and attack me daily and lose 😄

[patent tree]

I have had those days. Recently, people are no longer underestimating my defense team. It's probably the big red Nebula in the middle.

[coarse thorn]

Eheheh... Till now my opponent still underestimate me... maybe because I'm much lower level than all the guys around me in arena

I'm level 97

[gusty bone]

heh i am barely bieing atacked naymore i even dropping down is problematic ;p

on purpose

[coarse thorn]

One day they'll stop to underestimate me

[edgy shard]

can somebody tell me what heroes to level up?

i am having some difficulties in the campaign

[torn parcel]

The ones you have will work fine, just need to get them a bit stronger... best approach is redo previous levels in that chapter (especially the heroic ones) and you will find you grow quickly... Suddenly the level that stumped you is easily passed.

This is true of the entire campaign mate, you will hit 'plateau' several times

[edgy shard]

ok thanks

[robust plover]

.

[patent tree]

What's the . ?

[kindred fox]

hi all, new to hero wars, any strats that i should be working towards?

[coarse thorn]

First of all, this discord is for the web version of the game. If you play the mobile app all I wrote is meaningless

Level only your main team of 5 heroes (maybe 6 or even 7 if you want benchmens, but better 5). Do not spend gems until you are sure you have a good grasp of the game. This is a slow game, level 60 in 1-3 weeks, level 80 in a couple of months, than high 800k+ main team in 1-2 years. Do not spend special resources (skin stones, runes for glyphs, gift of elements, artifact resources) until you have a good grasp of the game (you won't need those buff at early level, thus keep them or you'll regret wrong use).
A good team is usually so made: 1 tank (Aurora, Astaroth and Corvus are common choices). 1 damage dealer (Dante, Yasmine, Heidi are common choices). 1 healer (Martha, Celeste and Dorian are common choices, until you drop them, go on with Thea). 2 support/control heroes (Nebula, Sebastian, Jorgen, Arachne are used a lot). Choice your preferred team, look for their soul stones in shops and missions and stick with those 5 at least until level 80-90, than you can consider if you have enough resources to build additional heroes. Heroes seems all good at low level, but most of them aren't
---- TEAM ---

One more tip: the damage dealer is the most important hero, thus you should use 60-80% of your resources to make him/her stronger, the rest to make your tank survive and then to make your healer/supports help the damage dealer survive and deal more damage
Last tip. In my opinion this game isn't playable long term without raid. Thus I consider mandatory the vip1 (1$)

[kindred fox]

thanks so much for your reply, much appreciated. I do play on web so not meaningless, i really appreciate your time to write and reply. so far i have just been levelling through campaign, will take a look at heros and see what i can build with what you suggest, thanks again

[patent tree]

I play web on Mobile. It is convenient not to lug a computer around.

[coarse thorn]

You're welcome... By the way I wrote it one time, then copy paste every time e newbie ask for genera advices 😉

[stone topaz]

@dim dove do you not talk in general

[silk ivy]

lol, all from one guild(guild mate together revenge)💀

[gloomy turret]

?

[coarse thorn]

Yes... I took the two final spots in their citadel that day and I think they wanted a revenge... well.. they hadn't

[hollow dragon]

level 72 vs boss sharakk
then 70 round

[tight cipher]

i am trying communication center but no luck so far

dante tank just dies, and my rufus is too weak to survive all those physical dmg there

[tight cipher]

ok, i tried some different comps and it worked fine, but runaway princess is impossible, well see you in 2 weeks

[clear zephyr]

have the same exact problem with the mission before heart of the capital, I just want to farm these damn throwing knives at lvl123

[tight cipher]

bought them from outland shop

[clear zephyr]

yeah had to do the same but at red rank ill just wait to farm all the other items since it takes ages

[tight cipher]

i am here so far, i will try to save enough cow coins to red him

[gloomy canopy]

O4 --> Red instantly lol

[tight cipher]

that's what i am saying

[clear zephyr]

ah, you got time still

[tight cipher]

i don't need more knifes before that

[clear zephyr]

when i dinged 100 i had orange +3 stuff already, but i think i go too hard on dante

[tight cipher]

leveling is quite fast now, don't have enough time to farm items fast enough

[clear zephyr]

yeah true that also changed things

[gloomy canopy]

You're still going much much faster than before

[tight cipher]

tickets give a lot of stuff

[gloomy canopy]

Imo having fewer resources at higher level is better than having too many at lower level

[clear zephyr]

so you dont spend them wrong?

[gloomy canopy]

No, it's just faster

Actually if you spend incorrectly it'll be worse

But it's faster, either faster and correctly or faster and incorrectly

But if you're doing the right thing it's great

[dire oar]

I'm currently in chapter 15's titan part and would like to know if my usual hero team needs modification for the Darkness part.

Using Dante, Jhu, Seb, Neb, Martha, Axel

I do have Iris and just got Cornelius

[gusty bone]

i hear jhu faceless is common choice

[patent tree]

I switched to yasmine tank in the last two missions before Seymour, but otherwise, if your team has been working, it will continue to work.

[gloomy turret]

Nice!

[silk ivy]

🎉

[gloomy turret]

can we see your defense team?

[coarse thorn]

Work in progress... Still lack blue axel, but I'll build Axel once Cain will be violet

[jaunty granite]

What character most strong?

[tight cipher]

there is none that is the best

[coarse thorn]

There isn't such an hero "most strong". There are balanced teams that work more or less against a great variety of opponents, focused teams that works against specific opponents, weak teams and SOME very weak heroes that never or nearly never worth it.

[gloomy turret]

you said you were lvl 97

[coarse thorn]

4 days ago I was

[gloomy turret]

oh ok

[coarse thorn]

During the great storm I used 9000 energy for the rewards 😉

A lot of stocked gifts and some potions

[gloomy turret]

why didn't you get soul stone chests?

[coarse thorn]

What? Where? I have some stocked for the summerfest, but why asking about soul stone chests?

[gloomy turret]

during the great storm

there was pet soul stone chests

[coarse thorn]

I took the stones for pet promotion. I think they're more precious than soul stones, at least at my level

[gusty bone]

thats not worth it

pet soulstones is good for old timers imho ..

[gloomy turret]

hmm true

[gloomy canopy]

Just wondering, why do you use Celeste in a team where Dante is clearly your focus?

[silver leaf]

yes lol, His Dante could not even get buff from Nebula !!!

[dense crater]

khornak 💪

[hidden jasper]

Well done!

[patent tree]

Next step, 3 stars.

But, congratulations.

[hidden jasper]

With no healer, he did well

Oh

He has Celeste

Actually, I think Fenris do so well to this boss

Because of his Blind ability

[patent tree]

How long does the blind last?

I don't remember my teams used. First, got 1 star, then went back weeks later to get 3 stars.

I know i used Astaroth and Martha, who else? Not sure, Jhu, Keira, sebastian, lian are most likely candidates.

[storm jackal]

Axell with Martha, Helios, Yasmine, Qinga Mao and Galthad works also 🙂

Important the armur artefact >71

all heros in violett+2/+3 rank:)

[gloomy canopy]

This would be a lot easier if you had someone to blind the bombs/an armor artifact

[silk ivy]

monke💪

[uneven hedge]

Will you add another 15 Chapters?

[dim dove]

does not look like that..
maybe @strong sierra can tell us when was the last time they added something new to the campaign, i think he was already in the game back then (its certainly more than 3.5 years ago, maybe closer to 5 years)

[patent tree]

With Hydra and other potential threats out there, I wouldn't mind some additional campaign levels. Probably when they release the next equipment levels beyond red 3.

[jovial smelt]

Why is Isaac here lol

[jovial smelt]

They will never do that, can't gain long-term revenue from it

[dense crater]

bc he is 💪+

[jovial smelt]

Khornak doesn't deal maagic

[dense crater]

i don't have other heroes at the moment

[patent tree]

Imagine the amount of farming one might need for Silver gear, maybe 1 per node, need 500 of each... They could sell a lot of energy doing that.

[uneven hedge]

Then can you make some option to start over with higher opponents like in the great storm event or change the difficulty like in Osh?

[clear zephyr]

how can i avoid my backline standing in front of dante? just had all of them die after a dante ult its kind of annoying and I know it isnt always like this

do i need to stop ulting when we reach the end of the room or something

[patent tree]

Dante has a long Ult animation. If he kills, your team moves up. You could give yourself a strong hero behind Dante to absorb any incoming damage. Jorgen for instance, Isaac, Jhu, Nebula... And invest in that hero a bit.

[gloomy turret]

Dante’s dodge buff should theoretically absorb the physical damage. But if the incoming damage is magic based, it should not be strong enough to kill the subjective hero completely

[tight cipher]

Manual your ulties, if there is end of one room, turn off auto, and only turn it on when Dante stands in his position

So he keep standing as first person

[patent tree]

☝️This happens also, since Dante has range abilities, he will fire off from further back before fully entering the battle.

[stoic apex]

i keep timing out on runaway princess 😭

[silk ivy]

so sad, is it because of the healer at the backline?

[gloomy turret]

cool

[silk ivy]

you mean boxy?

[fluid reef]

yes, i mea

[lime steeple]

except from martha and issac has anyone else noticed that female heroes when the die they lie at thier side but male lie back 1st lol

[patent tree]

Isaac is a dude. And no... I watched several die and it is not the case. galahad for instance does not flop on his back.

[gloomy canopy]

He never said Isaac wasn't a dude

[patent tree]

That is my fault for reading it as such. Many people make the mistake and read Isaac as female when they see the description of his skills.

[gloomy canopy]

His name is Isaac tho

And yeah I think some people get confused bc the skills say her (referring to Lil' Teslin)

[dire oar]

This may have been ask countless times before... I am about to face Seymour soon and would like to know if there are some heroes that have more of an advantage. (chp 15's Eternal Darkness)

[gloomy turret]

jhu isaac martha usually

[torn parcel]

Martha is very helpful for speed up and heal

[dire oar]

Like Osh team

[gloomy turret]

yeah osh can kill it

auto even 😄

[dire oar]

Thanks.

[warm wolf]

so when martha use her 1st ult, it helps SPEED UP the team, right?

[gusty bone]

i am timing out on 15-11

i hate drilling stations

imunite to iris ;p

and so hard ot take down

[patent tree]

Drilling stations are immune to iris? Interesting.

Have you tried Arachne Tank?

[gusty bone]

yah you cant expose thier souls

which mkaes sesne thye dont have soul ;p

theres too many little robots with healer and dante cant reach priest ..i gues kayla team would have asier time with her aoe on a backline

but my kayla is way too low for that

[patent tree]

Cornelius is the usual go to for healers.but he has basically no use outside of campaign. (A little use in outland)

If you are of equal level, Sebastian stops drilling instillation debuff.

[gusty bone]

i use seb, i am stil lacking damage to kil all the robots

thre station itslef are so hard to take down

[coarse thorn]

Finally 3 star path of madness. Damn stalling healers

[patent tree]

First step toward Kornak.

[gusty bone]

i time out on path of enstrangment

passed titan asylum but only get there so far

neb died at the end of prvoing grounds to so wil ahve to redoit

[patent tree]

You can redo it next year.

My advice in campaign is to use Alvanor as tank. Alvanor also useful against Brog in outlands and in guild raid as tank there... Not real useful in pvp.

This requires a fair bit of investment though so mainly a waste of resources.

[gusty bone]

i dont have alvanor

i barely see anyone having it al on my server

[patent tree]

Not surprised.

His campaign spam is hilarious.

But needs 80 in weapon artifact to kill enemy healer with Cornelius

[clear zephyr]

are the tank coolant mission waves always the same? thanks!

[gusty bone]

yes

[red shale]

where do I find this?

[clear zephyr]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w-2NcoxHRs

[gloomy canopy]

There's an article on the wiki for it called "Treasure Island"

[warm wolf]

same here

[dire oar]

Is Faceless really required for Eternal Darkness? and do you need to be Red +. Dante vs magic??? would Astaroth help there?

[patent tree]

I never used faceless in campaign. Or Dante.

[dire oar]

I don't even have him yet, I was watching yt for help and faceless/martha/jhu was used in most cases. (Keira even)

[gusty bone]

thats comons solution

also mushy/martha/maya\

[warm wolf]

haha

[dense crater]

technical division🙈

[warm wolf]

heidi team1!!!!

[patent tree]

Keira helped me a lot in campaign, but needed significant investment to get her damage up enough to beat Seymour. I don't typically suggest using Keira since ahe is currently out of Meta contention.

[dusky cove]

worst part of her is she really needs winter skin to work and it is quite difficult to get it

[patent tree]

Super easy to get. Just need to be in an active clan.

But needs to be winterfest.

[silver leaf]

Yeah! its easy to winter skins but need good guild in Winterfest event

[dusky cove]

and at least 2 winterfest events if you don't stack emeralds... or ppl in guild who would send gifts without need to exchange them

[gusty bone]

i started in winterfest being clueles and too low to do much i got 5 skin out of it so not bad

and pulled dante and neb at elast

[river mason]

i got fk all out of winterfest coz i had absolutely no clue 😂

[dense crater]

😹 of course #💬general message

[patent tree]

Dante and nebula are nice. Imagine getting Markus and Mojo, Chabba and dorian?

[gusty bone]

i have alvanor and fox

and chabba skin is best skin in the game

so wouldnt mind

[gloomy canopy]

Put Albus on Heidi

Get a better tank

[warm wolf]

why chabba skin is the best?

[vapid vine]

best-looking, just rips off garfield lol

[dusky cove]

but it was talk about winter skins and it is not one of them...

[vapid vine]

oh i didnt get context, mb lol

too lazy to read 😩

[jovial smelt]

517 days and finally finished

Just have to beat fire towers tbh

[river mason]

damn it took you that long to beat campaign?

holy moley

[jovial smelt]

Took a five month break, didn't do campaign for a long time

[river mason]

i just beat khornak, im not sure how long exactly ive been playing maybe 6months

just surprised it takes that long

[jovial smelt]

It doesn't

I was just particularly slow

[warm wolf]

hahaha...i think it is SUPER cute as well

[gusty bone]

the carniviorus xmass tree skin is just looks best ;p

[valid depot]

Campaign Chapter 14 City Grihwil. How to win with bloody Man in Tank in 3rd battle?

[patent tree]

Chapter 14 and 15 really painful. Just build your heroes up and forget about it for a few months. Certain heroes do better in 14 and 15. Enemy has strong magic defense and armor. If you reach 130, it is easy.

If you go early, it is a lot of playing around. Need Cornelius for healers, arachne to stun enemy, I like Alvanor as tank but some prefer Astaroth. Keira can be good here, worked for me but she was very invested. iris can convert damage to pure which is nice. Pure damage is the best option in chapter 14 and 15.

Faceless can be used to double up on Cornelius heavy wisdom. Faceless doesn't need to be really strong, heavy wisdom relies mostly on hero level so a level 300 heavy wisdom will do a ton of damage.

14 and 15 will pose significant trouble. Many get stuck on 14 for months.

[warm wolf]

thanks 4 ur advice

[charred jungle]

Give me a little help, how do I get past this level? I've already been at this level for 4 months and I'm losing time, which is the hero or heroine that helps me overcome this, besides the old man Cornelius, help please???

[patent tree]

Path of madness. This will stop most players in their tracks.

I think i was stuck there for 3 months ...

Might be an exaggeration.

[warm wolf]

that name is SO TRUE...brings people MADNESS toward the game!! 😤 😡 🥵

[charred jungle]

I use martha, faceless, cornelius, fafnir and galahad as a shield tank but I lose by time

[patent tree]

Galahad isn't very good. You should drop him before you waste more resources. Fafnir does no damage so he won't be much help. But at least he does stun which could be good.

[charred jungle]

and which hero would help at least pass that level I accept advice and criticism

[torn parcel]

You need a good damage dealer... Dante, Yasmine, Jhu, etc.

If you are timing out, you are surviving but not doing enough damage

[patent tree]

Iris is good for chapter 14 since shebdoes pure damage.

[charred jungle]

Dante I have it at a good level but I need to take it to the maximum in armor penetration jasmine I already have it to the maximum glyphs and jhu it did not go through my head that hero would be mmm martha, cornelius, dante, jasmine and jhu I will be able to win without wasting time :v

[charred jungle]

mm that's a good heroin chance too

[oblique berry]

hahaha

[warm wolf]

u r LUCKY to have iris!!! i want to have her but NOT yet...😤

[patent tree]

Stay away from Iris. She is the daughter of the Arch demon

[warm wolf]

haha...i need to stay away from Lilith as well, right? 😜

[cursive knot]

Please I need help, which is a better support - Nebula or Sebastian? which should I upgrade?

[midnight shell]

🤣 too late... mine's in my top 10

also is that official lore?

[dusky cove]

depends on your team... but probably both

[patent tree]

Sebastian will be more useful in general. Nebula is amazing for enhancing your damage but oddly circumstantial since she is only buffing adjacent heroes. So if you have Dante, Morrigane, Nebula will huff Morrigane instead of Dante.

[warm wolf]

yeah..that's sad...

[midnight shell]

Wow. Thanks for the buff Nebula... 🤣

[river mason]

Yeah neb requires some team planning usually

Seb is almost always good though

Esp for arena

[silver leaf]

Defeated Seymour :)) hahahaha

[brazen summit]

Nice

[silver leaf]

Thank you :))

[brazen summit]

🙃

[silver leaf]

Actually its my Guildmate's account, I have been playing in it for last few months, he was having good Faceless so i thought i will give seymour a try

My Jhu is way more powerfull than this! hahaha

[patent tree]

Jhu does % based damage so as long as he ults and lives, it is fine. Orion is very strong and could probably solo Seymour. Rufus is an interesting choice though.

[coarse thorn]

Playing on another player account is forbidden and you can be banned for this. I suggest you to not say it so openly

[patent tree]

Is it now? I was under the impression that this was strictly a financial issue, not buying or selling of accounts.

I don't account share. Even though my email doesn't exist, I am the only one to play this account.

[gloomy turret]

ideally that's what it should be haha

[patent tree]

I am aware of people who do share. Make attacks in GW when on vacation and other minor tasks. It is quite popular.

[coarse thorn]

One thing is doing it, another thing is come her in the official discord and say "I do it" 😉

[charred jungle]

ah: v well I wish you luck so that you have it bro

[gloomy turret]

How do you defeat khornak

[dusky cove]

upgrade heroes until they are strong enough and hit him until he dies

armor artifact weapons timed right before bomb explosion help surviving it... blinding bomb right before explosion makes it miss... stun on bomb gives more time to kill it...
pure dmg helps to ignore khornak's defensive stats

[gloomy canopy]

Jhu + Armor artifacts

[gloomy canopy]

I think it's level-based, it should be the same as this

[coarse thorn]

I cannot believe that one of my "mistakes" could come to an use... Quing-mao helped me to 3 star "path of madness", "handcrafted-wonder" and "deadly height". Only one star for "into the abyss", but I'll take my time and try it again
Qing-mao/Dante/Celeste/Nebula/Martha/Axel, level 120, team 290k... I dind't think it could work... just tried it out of frustration 😄
Manual mode to keep Celeste nearly 100% of the time healing (just double ulti when full energy to cast another light healing sphere on Qing-mao head)

The most fun part was seeing Qing-mao life go up and down like mad, thanks to the huge damage and Marth+Celeste healing (both pumped by Nebula), while QM spam his ulti like crazy every second (I will break my "5" and "Q" keyboard buttons)

[gloomy canopy]

It's probably just because you needed the extra Armor Pen, the enemies in c14/c15 do have high Armor/MD relative to most teams that first encounter them. But Iris is better than QM in pvp which is why we typically don't recommend her

No, it's just levels

[silver leaf]

Thank you dude! never knew that

Will show you tomorrow 🙂 no time today! hahahaha, I will pm if possible

[gloomy canopy]

I did it already

[warm wolf]

happy 4 u

[warm wolf]

hope to see a video about that so we can LEARN how to use manual mode. thank u

[patent tree]

Manual mode is important for multiple heroes. Yasmine, Nebula, Faceless, Celeste all benefit a lot from manual mode. Iris and many other heroes will ultimate and miss your intended target if the enemy is untargetable, Dante, Arachne, Yasmine and some others who Jump for instance will avoid being targeted by Iris if ahe ukts while they are in the process of jumping. This has lost me a few auto fights. If you are good at it, you can do a lot with Manual mode. I am absolutely trash at it though and almost always go Auto.

Occasionally Phobos will target the wrong hero of the enemy has Nebula. Phobos targets the highest physical attack and Nebula boosts that stat significantly.

Being aware of these little things will help. I imagine there is a cheat sheet somewhere.

[warm wolf]

ok, let me try finding it...thank u for ur BIG help 💪

there are MUCH MORE to learn from this game 🤓

[jovial smelt]

Nice! I did it two days ago

[silver leaf]

thats great !!

[jovial smelt]

what's your team power

[silver leaf]

Main team : 890k

[silver leaf]

almost 900k

[jovial smelt]

wow, mine is only 450k

[silver leaf]

good :)) which all heroes are you using ?

[jovial smelt]

[dire oar]

May I ask how strong is your Asta, Jhu, Faceless and Martha.

[gloomy canopy]

What about Neb bruh

You use Jhu?!

[jovial smelt]

Against Seymour ofc

[jovial smelt]

Jhu isn't in my main team, just used him for Seymour

[patent tree]

I had Jhu leveled and skilled when i did Seymour, Jhu was good for Adventure bosses. I beat Seymour a short time before Ascension was released. So, a year and 6 months ago. It was kind of a big deal.

The game loses a lot once you beat the final campaign mission though, nothing to strive for.

Well, Gold League and a banner edge for Clash of Worlds... But those are not as much of a puzzle and more of a grind.

[dusky cove]

and even more like "deep wallet challenge"

[patent tree]

Time to set up a GFM and Venmo sign at a local high school football game. You can lie and say you are buying Beer... Rufus drinks Beer, right?

[warm wolf]

hahaha

[warm wolf]

celeste CAN be a tank! wow!

[patent tree]

Celeste can be tank indeed. Very circumstantial. I believe Alvanor makes a better tank and Arachne. Lian is great as tank if not for the limited support for her.

[warm wolf]

i saw people said Alvanor CAN be a tank...but i c Alvanor is LISTED as "support role".....so weird

[patent tree]

Alvanor is a support mage. He has some healing and boosts healing from all sources, he also increases energy gain as bonus Energy. His ultimate blocks incoming damage from basic attacks.

In campaign, this is insane. Spheres in chapter 14 and 15 count as basic attacks so Alvanor out heals any oncoming damage by blocking it... He spams his ultimate so much.

Eventually, there are too many spheres if you can't kill them though and he will succumb... But it is a wild ride up until that poijt.

[analog flower]

that's insane

I find those drills annoying the most because they're taking energy away

[warm wolf]

Lian is CONTROL role as well...and can be a tank? wow

[analog flower]

yep solo lian is insane

[warm wolf]

no wonder...last time Al and Jet combo are killing my whole team! 🥵

[analog flower]

dang

[warm wolf]

how high the level Al needs to be for ch 14?

[dire oar]

@jovial smelt thank you

[patent tree]

If you start facing healers and need to nuke them with Cornelius, need Alvanor to have a high primary artifact weapon, I think mine was 75 5 stars... I know i had a free 2 play buddy use Alvanor to great effect but don't know how far he invested.

Mine was orange 0, 1 or 2, it was a while back.

I think my buddy's was violet though.

[obsidian owl]

Hi are there indonesian here

[patent tree]

There might be. I don't know anybody's ethnic or global background as I don't care... Everyone on the internet is a 45 year old balding bearded caucasian dude.

[jovial smelt]

yes i am

[slim dagger]

yeah, the boss on map 9 is pretty brutal, just shoves all my guys off the left edge...

[neat forge]

I am trying to kill Seymore but I am timing out. Any suggestions for this team?

[gloomy canopy]

Maybe you could sub Faf for Faceless to copy Martha's speed-up

[patent tree]

You need to kill the pillars. Specifically the earth elemental and fire elemental effect pillars.

Killing fire damages Seymour. Killing earth gives you a brief 10x damage buff.

Killing water heals you.

Save Martha until the earth pillar instead of wasting on water pillar. Same for fire if possible.

[gloomy canopy]

Does the 10x dmg still have the same dmg cap? Or 10x dmg cap too

[patent tree]

Assume 10x.

[gloomy canopy]

Does Jhu do 330k per attack then?

[patent tree]

I haven't watched but you hit like a truck.

Assuming you can kill both pillars.

[gloomy canopy]

I main Jhu and I learned that for Seymour it's literally a bad thing

Bc of the dmg cap, it doesn't matter if you invest Jhu or have a baby one. Does the exact same

And the fact that I don't have a front-targeting DD means I can't kill pillars

[patent tree]

True. I used a combo of Keira and Lian as DDs, no Sebastian. Martha Corvus and Jhu.

I feel it is harder now than when I first did it since Martha ukts slower.

[warm wolf]

wow....5 stars...got it. thanks!

[warm wolf]

Corn is doing so well 4 me! hahaha....even though he is just level 64 but he can beat 75 level enemy!!

[torn parcel]

That's the beauty of Corny... doesn't have to be high powered to be wildly effective

[warm wolf]

SUPER happy to use him as counter

[patent tree]

Yeah, Cornelius damage is mostly level based. Only a small amount from magic attack. Faceless doubles that and then some to easily crush any intellectual hero or villain.

[warm wolf]

thanks. so far NOT enough resources to build faceless. HOPE i can when i reach ch 14 so i can pass it

[patent tree]

If you have high enough magic attack for Cornelius, a magic attack artifact from celeste or alvanor , or an armor penetration artifact from Morrigane, you might not need faceless. It is all very versatile as far as which heroes are needed, but faceless is probably the easiest way. Faceless could probably be white because the ultimate is the skill double... Been so kong since i had to finagle with new heroes for a goal like campaign... Kinda miss it. Unlike pvp... I hate developing new heroes for pvp.

[south tinsel]

2 heidis...

[gloomy canopy]

[warm wolf]

happy that i got celeste and morrigan on my MAIN team and corn on my 2nd team....HOPE i will be ok in ch 14. but i will KEEP in mind for Faceless

[gloomy canopy]

What's your team?

[patent tree]

Flying monkeys?

[warm wolf]

heidi team

[gloomy canopy]

Why are Cel and Morri on your main team then?

Whatever it's probably a fine team

[warm wolf]

haha..i have morri as my MAIN counter so....

with her, my life is SO EASY

[gloomy canopy]

To counter Rufus?

[warm wolf]

asta so he won't revive the DD

[torn parcel]

Celeste does it better

just sayin ofc

[gloomy canopy]

Well he has both

[tight path]

Hmm, any tips for chap 8 archdemon? Focus on increasing dam or healing?

[analog flower]

depends on your team, personally I increased dmg but do whatever you think is more beneficial

[gloomy canopy]

Depends if you're dying or timing out, I assume you're dying

You can also just try saving all ults from the second stage for the boss, then ult all

Using Axel would help a lot ofc to spread dmg

[coarse thorn]

Always focus on your damage dealer, as a base rule for this game. At your level your damage dealer should be at least double power than the rest of the heroes in the team
For campaign, simply level up your main 5 heroes team, with more focus on the damage dealer, and retry. You'll have more situation like this where you cannot finish a mission (not only bosses). Just level up and retry

[tight path]

Just got it completed! Boss almost oneshotted my team members. I brought maya+faceless to quickly over heal the dam and victory awaited! 🙂

[tight path]

Thanks! That is clear and simple guide to follow. 🙂
Ive basically put 95% resources into Dante. Its pretty amazing how he tanks so well, and also blasts through mobs. With him I can replace Asta with support. Started putting some resources into neb. With your guide, now I know how much I need to put effort into neb before I can start using it.

[coarse thorn]

Don't forget that if you use Dante as tank, you need to bring Cain to violet and use it as patron to Dante... It brings Dante tank to a brand new level

[coarse thorn]

Nebula start to shine once violet and the violet skill maxed. She doesn't need much more to start working good... She obviously shine even more if you pump her physical attack (violet skill is based on it... well all her skills are)

[tight path]

Aye, leveling up cain right now. But oh my it is slow to level up. 😁

[coarse thorn]

Especially from blue+2 to violet... it can take really a lot if you cannot win at least adventure 9 daily
But it worth it every second

[tight path]

Good to have heads up that it will be worth it. This will be useful to keep motivated. As right now I can clear lvl 3, sometimes lvl 4. 😁

[river mason]

Dante tank is very strong

Don't get discouraged if U get stonewalled on a few levels, just keep powering Dante up

[gloomy turret]

Can someone tell me the total health of Khornak?

[muted barn]

Wow

[analog flower]

around 4mil specifically if the wiki is not lying then it’s 3,967,680

[dense crater]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/884472037819691078/1074924776637857862/amira2.jpg

[gusty bone]

sigh driling machines with priest of seymor so anonying draging energy so you cant ult so you cant kil priest

timing out on endless abyss for now

[charred cove]

Had to face this combination in that mission of waves to get 300 items...lost twice during last wave because of the time 😭

[thorny wasp]

any suggestions on the hero team for Heart of the capital im stuck...

[patent tree]

Basically... Astaroth as tank, Martha as healer, use both of their ultimates when the bombs are about to explode. Jhu is good for damage, and the other 2 are up to you... Your strongest heroes most likely.

[charred cove]

finally completed chapter 14!

[tight cipher]

gz, i am still stuck on runaway princess

[clear zephyr]

same! used dante + jhu as tanks to get enough damage, just needed sebastian to protect from the drilling thing

[dense crater]

🐵

[warm wolf]

happy 4 u

[robust shard]

How big?

[dense crater]

was 74k (together with albus patron) when I realized that he can solo "runaway princess"

[broken trench]

Was struggling there as well until i built Cornelius around around 15k then it was easy, but the mission after that has abs Priest of Seymour, can't kill him so I'm stuck there

[jovial smelt]

why waste energy just to flex lol

[jovial smelt]

Try no dorian

[dusky cove]

why do you think it is waste of energy?

[jovial smelt]

20 energy

the items can be found elsewhere

[dusky cove]

still not waste if somebody doesn't have raid and want to spend energy for team exp or some event rewarding for energy used

[jovial smelt]

I think vopros has raid

[jovial smelt]

How much power is your Dante?

The number?

lol

I need way more than you

Only 137k power

What's your dante's power

wow

All maxeD?

wow

I never spent a single buck

Though I've been playing for 1.5 year

It's not I don't want to spend it's I can't spend lol

I wish I could

I have money, just don't have digital ones

[charred cove]

survived only two waves in that chapter 15 titan mission =/

[dense crater]

7 today 💪

[patent tree]

I think i beat it one time with 3 stars.

[gloomy canopy]

I don't think there are stars for that one

It's just the amount of coolant you get

[dark ibex]

Whats the best way to beat chapter 14?

Specifically Runaway princess?

team wise?

[dense crater]

☝️ #campaign message

[river mason]

Just keep leveling up main team til U can beat it

It's a really bad use of resources to level up some random hero just to beat a level in campaign

[pallid girder]

campaign 15 blows....

[spice rapids]

campaign blows in general lol

[pallid girder]

🤣 fair enough

[spice rapids]

im stuck at PoM and am regretting having dante

[pallid girder]

ha!

[spice rapids]

but also not regretting that at all cuz in arena im 147 at 280k surrounded by 450k

[pallid girder]

👍

[jovial smelt]

me who is 500k surrounded by 800k

[warm wolf]

celeste can defeat dante alone??

[jovial smelt]

wdym

[warm wolf]

someone said celeste can defeat dante alone...hard counter

[jovial smelt]

depends

[warm wolf]

so who is a hard counter for dante?