💬general

[limpid raven]

how is that Adam maxed yet you still have heroes to do htop
or is just alt account

[rare marten]

it was 72% enguneerium so its fair game

[rare marten]

Adam is stightly better than Ginger and Astrid so i did him 1st

[smoky terrace]

Hes Staying like this until Next Hero ToP, already got all the bobbles
😉

[gentle plover]

I think adam is very good

[limpid raven]

i see, there still low priority heroes for you

[paper hedge]

👀

[smoky terrace]

Hoooot !

[uneven cobalt]

Quite cheap for my taste, I hope the next edition will have more sizeable rewards. But adding clan frames is cool

[smoky terrace]

Was already the Expectation but its the First Iteration

Love the Frame !

Purple Thanos Boxes .... Maybe Infinity Stones Inside 🤔

[uneven cobalt]

I think it is well-designed, but it is hard to appreciate without a banner. I should work on this 🤔

One day

Probably in a far-away future

[paper hedge]

whats that

[smoky terrace]

Yes pull a Bladerunner and shoot for 2049

[uneven cobalt]

Titan AoC

Tomorrow

[paper hedge]

that sigurd the best damage dealer in their team lol and my Nova tanked 45 million dmg apparently

[paper hedge]

Well I sure am looking forward to that more than AoC

At least I hope it'll be good

[paper hedge]

Rewards dont look good though

[misty fog]

impartant major impactul,but why not just for all changes? why it is so hard omg...

[paper hedge]

for real

wheres that at btw

[misty fog]

sorry missed that,talk more not talk about all

its so uselesss and counterproductive to be here

[limpid raven]

#⭐starboard message

[gentle plover]

what is that?

[crude sparrow]

We don't need to know if there was a failed to initialize variable or use after free bugs. 🤷‍♂️

Most companies do not expose all bug fixes .. so at least on the last line, impactful bug fixes sound accurate and following industry norms.

[peak forge]

Anyone have a team for Chapter V of the Last Contract event? Tried some of the teams shown, no luck

[limpid raven]

you have more than 150 buff?

[crude sparrow]

https://hwdaily.win/adam-event/teams

[peak forge]

No, just 150

[misty fog]

are you sure if it is going to be just that?

[crude sparrow]

No, and we can continue to argue what are impactful bugs. 🙂

This is not open source project. 🤷‍♂️

[misty fog]

for me it is a deflection

I dont need to see code,but I want to be aware of changes

[crude sparrow]

Though I'd like it to be. The code can be reproduced better/cleaner anyway I'm sure, with AI help.
The IP is in the graphics, the and value is in the user base Nexters has built.

[tight path]

This is laughable

[misty fog]

those are AoC rewards?

[tight path]

Apparently

Its not even enough for one fusion attempt

[atomic summit]

on same line as golden threads for Hero AoC

[crude sparrow]

Did you just say clan frames? We aren't playing CoC .. it's called guild here. 😅

[atomic summit]

but hero upgrade chests are better than these titan upgrade chests

[tight path]

At least the hero AOC gave patterns as well as threads

They couldnt toss in a few emeralds and/or guild trophies?

[crude sparrow]

I beg to differ. And AoC if using titans should reward Titan resources.
Agree if AoC remains as heroes event, it should reward Hero resources.

[long isle]

They may expect people to place high value on the frame

[atomic summit]

In their api... guild is referred to as clan 😛

[paper hedge]

That is quite true, otherwise they'll be having a list of bug fixes daily given how games this big is bound to get minor/major bugs here and there

[crude sparrow]

Dang, so this is a coc rewrite? 😝

[paper hedge]

And did you stop becoming mod?

[paper hedge]

those are hard to give, patterns + thread in titans sense is basically primal and elemental catalysts

[misty fog]

noone should buy a ticket for AoC,honestly noone

this is the only way to stop that bs

[opal frigate]

They'll just monetise something else even more lol

[mild stream]

Depends if the titan chests are okay, I mean if it's the usual titan resources.... Then nah

[misty fog]

if people buys ticket on big scale,nexter will feed us with 2x AoC per month,otherwise they may retract,but 100% they wont retract if it sells well

[peak forge]

What's the best team to inflict max damage on the Archdemon in the Adam Event?

[limpid raven]

isaac + nebula + sebastian + guus + options

[clever cypress]

kayla or qing mao + attack only talisman

[crude sparrow]

https://hwdaily.win/adam-event/archdemon

This to be exact. The reroll for Attack-Only talisman is a PITA.

Don't use Ish team .. it didn't work for me. Kayla is harder to roll for but she worked.
For 1 bil, 100 buffs, chapter 4. (You'd get 4 bil but you get the idea).

[misty fog]

and buff?

[mild stream]

That is true

[limpid raven]

don't worry they will get the talisman on first try

[peak forge]

Thx dude or dudette, whichever

[kind abyss]

sorry but i read only "we promise to do more + better of what we always did" but no sign of a structural improvement.

How could we trust in you in not again and again making communication 'mistakes' which cost us money and increase your profit?
How shall this "more + better what we always did" make us trust that its not your business model to trick us into wasting money for nothing by sneakily changing the rules of the game which we are playing?

And maintaining a changelog is not a question of capacity. its a small change in behavior:

when done with something you write the customer facing thing together with the reason for why you did (would be part of the change request) to a text file which is auto-deployed / published every hour.
and it will be a non brainer with no extra affort after few weeks.

for companies with low quality and communication standards a changelog is not a "traditional" old thing to be overcome.
it would have been the first step into a future of becoming a professional software company doing high quality professional SW development and which therefor has happy customers.

you cant just skip this step. there is no other way to get better at quality as to document what you plan to do and when done check that you did the acceptance criteria.
the changelog is just the transparency to your customers who deserve to be treated fair and informed about any game rule change.
if you were interested in them.
🙄🙄🙄

[compact steppe]

Thought this was funny.
Thought I'd share.
Same 8-digit player ID.

[gentle plover]

wow

[misty fog]

same when you refresh game?

can you give ID number of any member please?

[compact steppe]

I'm going to keep the tab open forever so I never lose the 31st spot.

[limpid raven]

it appears normal on guild lookup

[misty fog]

probably someone left and join while your game didnt update

[compact steppe]

42908124

[compact steppe]

Upon refreshing, it's back to 30/30.

[compact steppe]

The log only shows the individual joining.

[misty fog]

must be visual bug,like many others

[opal frigate]

When the game refuses to give you isaac

But gives you plenty of kayla

[glacial dagger]

how much damage u get by that team?

[opal frigate]

2.2bil including the 100% bonus 🤣
Isaac needs to be much stronger.

[sick orchid]

splash

stop stealing starstruck's carrots

leave some for me

[sick orchid]

🇫

[woven tangle]

Captain, is that you?

[glacial dagger]

no worries
he will be back as young on doomsday

[woven tangle]

I know!

[gentle plover]

do you think mi team is good? (adam, folio, astaroth, martha and orion?)

[woven tangle]

no i don't

[glacial dagger]

no support for adam

[gentle plover]

oh

what should I change?

[glacial dagger]

many it depend u want a phy attack team or magic attack?

[gentle plover]

both?

[glacial dagger]

those type of team are very rare

[tight path]

Yes this team, I'm not too sure why the Ish team is there, Ish isn't that good if he cant get energy

@uneven cobalt I think you should remove the Ish team from your Archdemon section, it doesnt really work

[gentle plover]

do you recomend me to exchange the energy crystals into valor coins?

[crude sparrow]

We all do that after we reached the last chapter that we can possibly do so, so mostly on the last day because we are optimist.

[gentle plover]

ok thank you

[proud osprey]

Some of these are really funny. 😄

[gentle plover]

yes

the ishmael one on chapter 5 too

[gritty meadow]

summerfest starts in june right?

[gentle plover]

yes

[gritty meadow]

the first week of june or the second?

its been a long time since I've played

idr

[boreal thunder]

According to https://hwdaily.win/summerfest It was July.

[gritty meadow]

ohh

thanls for tha info

[long isle]

It can be anywhere from late June to late July

[proud osprey]

Nearly there... 🤏 Just a little left...

[velvet moth]

Yeah, if only the definition of “impactful” by Nexters was based on the industry standard.

[sly swan]

wait a second... is titan aoc on?

[proud osprey]

Tomorrow.

[oak monolith]

anyone having issue with archdemon points not adding up when you do it?

[tardy trench]

It does not add - best damage in one battle counts.

[oak monolith]

ah

[misty bone]

Is Nexters going out of business? Multiple people, in my guild, have been without access for the last 24 hrs with no response. Nexters then canceled an event. Would like to know. But you guys are still discussing the game so I am confused now. Can anyone help?

[fallow locust]

weird, no announcements about the titan AOC tomorrow?

[night vigil]

hi

[broken karma]

Are we still getting 32 energy crystals?

[proud osprey]

Nothing is certain with Nexters. 😄

[oak monolith]

is there a page that has best teams for archdemon? o

[tacit obsidian]

https://hwdaily.win/adam-event/archdemon

[gusty valley]

is it not always 48

[gusty valley]

i coulda sowrn they posted before, but ig tru

[old cosmos]

need 1 star anyone can help?

[proud osprey]

Usually it's 48 split into either 3x16 or 2x24. We had a 16 so far. Based on past events, expect 2 more gifts totalling 32.

[old cosmos]

yes we will get 48 for sure.

otherwise there will be riot here

they already reduce the energy amounts from quests

[old cosmos]

no announcement at the News section yes, which is very bad, I was also confused why it didnt start yesterday

i just know about it after checking starboard

[proud osprey]

Too badd you weren't online. I was laughing so hard. 🤣

[broken karma]

Oh I thought otherwise cuz we didn’t get anything today

[proud osprey]

Or we could get one gift tomorrow of 32 disguised as compensation for the delay of AoC, making us believe we will get more than 48. 🤣

[broken karma]

xd

[old cosmos]

we are supposed to get 1 today (26/5) yes. i think they are in a mess situation due to titan AOC hahahaha

[old cosmos]

unlikely in my opinion....

you know how stingy they are 😛

even the biggest mess they ever created , summerfest or winterfest bug, they didnt give us a nice compensation/proper fix to the situation

[proud osprey]

Re-read what I said. You clearly misunderstood me. 😄

[gusty valley]

im confused

[gusty valley]

what summerfest winterfest bug?

[old cosmos]

i understood haha..... but same answer.

[old cosmos]

you are too young to know that. I see.

[gusty valley]

hmm? which summerfest winterfest ive been here a while

[old cosmos]

oh haha...
summerfest 2025 and winterfest 2024

[gusty valley]

ahhh ok ive been here summerfest 2025, not winterfest 2024

what was the bug, i realy slept in on the summerfest em gen though 🙁

[proud osprey]

Nonsense! This game has no bugs. Just some occasional unexpected features.

[spark dove]

i was taking a break during those times

[old cosmos]

or Nexter being generous by giving gifts but only to certain players 😛

[velvet moth]

Super Chest of Titans for Summerfest 2025, Winterfest Tree not reset from 2023's iteration then they anyhow chop down the Winterfest Tree randomly on ALL servers for the first few hours.

[old cosmos]

there clamxy explained above 😛

[gusty valley]

unexcpeted by th devs

[gusty valley]

huhh yea sounds like a bit of an exerimpent from the devs

must be trying to test your mind eh?

[proud osprey]

You didn't see anything.

And if someone complains, "uh can you post us a screenshot or video of the issue?"...

[gusty valley]

people gunna trust you or the voices of like 50+ complainers who play this game

[proud osprey]

If you look at this Discord, they complain even when things go well. 🤣

[tacit obsidian]

Is that the title of the second part of your autobiography ?

[old cosmos]

why is the general chat so funny today

[gusty valley]

whats the fist

[proud osprey]

Not as funny as it was yesterday.

[tacit obsidian]

👆

[gusty valley]

they gunna think its a scem, like how the beach calms down before the tsunami

[gusty valley]

missed it, same time?

[gusty valley]

oh right i put "croissont" instead of "croissant" lol

[tacit obsidian]

I just finished work, I'm thinking about how AOC is gonna go down. If the matchmaking is based on hero power my guild is gonna get stepped on big time.

[gusty valley]

isnt it titans?

[tacit obsidian]

That would assume the devs work

They don't

[gusty valley]

well your assuming their go8ing to keep aoc this month

[tacit obsidian]

True

[proud osprey]

Started about here: #📝game-discussion message

[gusty valley]

therefore if u assume, i can assume

[tacit obsidian]

You're a wise dolphin, very confused but dependable.

[gusty valley]

i speed read that, the first thing i saw was "as a family pair of flip flops"

[gusty valley]

1. im not a dolphin
2. i wouldnt call myself dependable

[tacit obsidian]

It's not up to you, if shadow thinks it it must be true

[gusty valley]

shadow thinks im a dolphin or thinks im dependable

the problem about shadows cast by light, is that they dont have brains

(and no not talking about you magnus)

[proud osprey]

I just saw a penguin chatting with a dolphin. I really need to quit smoking...

[spark dove]

lol

[gusty valley]

you just saw a penguin chatting wiht a dolpino. correct your facts

[spark dove]

and i just saw a penguin, wolf, AND dolphin chatting

[tacit obsidian]

Just remember, if you stack up on 4 other opponent teams in AOC instead of attacking them, you're not imagining things, it's just a bug coincidence and we should never talk about it.

[gusty valley]

exactly

[proud osprey]

What do you mean? We're not supposed to share the towns with anyone?

[gusty valley]

the devs dont think sharing is caring ig 🤷

[tacit obsidian]

ikr, it's our fault for playing the game wrong

[proud osprey]

This game promotes selfishness.

[gusty valley]

exactly why i quit. iwas too selfless. very proud of myself 🙂

[tacit obsidian]

also, if your guild is third, and 2 guys from 1st and 2nd guilds are frolicking around the map with just a fafnir, they're not cheaters. You just don't understand the struggle of nexters.

[gusty valley]

i really dont

[proud osprey]

You can cheat in this game??

[tacit obsidian]

Some guy I confronted called it "optimization". Funny thing, he's still not banned.

[proud osprey]

Why would Nexters ban someone that generates income? They're not suicidal.

[latent tinsel]

are you naive enough to believe that any thing with millions of participants would have 0 cheaters given the opportunity to?

[proud osprey]

If I need to specify "this is sarcasm" every time then I'm in the wrong chat.

[latent tinsel]

oh well i guess u need to put the /s part or people may not be able to tell 😄

[gusty valley]

3rd party skripts?

[gusty valley]

yup thats the kind of brains ppl have here

at least for me 🙃

[tacit obsidian]

skits* as in comedy routines. A 100% human support staffer told me so it must be true.

[gusty valley]

then again, dont trust ai

arent they purprel?

theres chp 8 in adventure?

[crude sparrow]

What?!

[jade otter]

chapter8?

[latent tinsel]

ur getting stage mixed up with chapter

[gusty valley]

ah stage 7 ok

[limpid raven]

will the health potion somehow not revive titans that died from last flash

[sonic gyro]

chapter 7 with 4 heroes ... lol

maybe i'm the lucky one 😉

[jade otter]

?

[fallow locust]

you expect people to tell you how to beat them?

[ebon scroll]

aoc in 6 minutes

🫣

[latent tinsel]

unless

[proud osprey]

Why do I have the feeling it's going to be boring?

[fallow locust]

how would it not be?

[jade otter]

ain't no way

[proud osprey]

I don't mean slow pace or anything. Just looking at the rewards it feels not worth it, and there will be tons of trips between castles and towns unless the guilds are massively unballanced.

[limpid raven]

they changed the map

[jade otter]

thats a sick banner lol

[old cosmos]

wow hthey changed map

[velvet moth]

What is this?

[jade otter]

nice little frame

kinda neat lol

[tacit obsidian]

All gold guilds from way older servers than us, all active. Guess we're getting stomped again...

[glass pilot]

does anyone know when demon dolls arrive?

[night vigil]

is adam worth investing in?

[ebon scroll]

yes

[night vigil]

okay

[opal frigate]

lol. We have server 6, server 22, and server 34.

[jade otter]

meanwhile...

[old cosmos]

what a joke as a reward of 1st place? lmaooooooooo

And yes, we are grouped with another guild for don't know how many times already.

[jade otter]

its not too bad of a rewar

[old cosmos]

really huh? i thought they would give more as a gift of intense killing each other for 4 days

[jade otter]

nah can't expect too much

30 is alright

[pearl shell]

frame itself is cool but everything else is disgusting

[velvet moth]

The minimum team level to play the Titan AoC is apparently higher than 30.

[jade otter]

well... u need a guild

[brisk cypress]

Thats some good rewards actually. But what did you expect? A totem sphere?

[opal frigate]

You get almost the same from a purple GoD. It's pretty bad imo.

[proud osprey]

Do you even have access to titans at level 30?

[latent tinsel]

🤦

[velvet moth]

Yes you do have access to Titans once you join a guild, which is at Team lv30. In fact, you are usually immediately directed into the Titan tutorial once you join a guild for the first time.

[brisk cypress]

Its around 32k EV. Hero *AoC has around 30k EV (Edit)

Also catalysts are a lot more impoertant than Golden Thread

[proud osprey]

So then is it pets at 40? I really don't remember.

[velvet moth]

Pets, Summer fest and Cosmic Battles at Team lv40.

[limpid raven]

do you have 5 titans on the level 30?

[kind abyss]

catalysts are far easier to get than golden thread. also upgrading patterns to max is harder than upgrading totem skills.

[velvet moth]

All Titans summoned; the main team power is 26,735.

[brisk cypress]

This is disgusting btw

[limpid raven]

the boosters are different of hero aoc, or they are going with different id approach for each iteration

[gusty valley]

reset!

[brisk cypress]

I think Thread is easier to get - more sources on the island and there is silver season ticket for example. Also you dont need to max patterns to be fully effective in hero combat, while you need to max fusion to be fully effective in titan combat

[tacit obsidian]

This AOC is 10000000% based on hero power. I've got the biggest titan power in my guild, my biggest team is 880k. i just saw 13 different 1M4 + teams from a single guild. I expected this, I wished it wouldn't be like that but it is.

[gusty valley]

aww man

wait i need to hae a guild for a few days to play aoc right?

i was kinda wanting to. oh well 🤷

[ebon scroll]

they added a 100 titanite bonus for summoning sphere when used with emeralds?

[tacit obsidian]

And there it is....

[velvet moth]

14 days, you must be in a guild and at least a certain Team level to play (it's more than 30 for Titans AoC) and the guild must be created before a certain time that they did the matchmaking in.

[kind abyss]

how many max patters do you have? and yes, they matter much in endgame.

[ebon scroll]

conquest bundle still has no action points in it

[velvet moth]

That's how the devs claim there is "balance"

[gusty valley]

well i was 130

[brisk cypress]

0 and i seriously doubt that it matters. However most of my flags are 2nd to 3rd last rank

[kind abyss]

congrats then i guess? i burnt a lot of half upgraded patterns to get few to max. and no guessing here: they do matter.

[mild stream]

yeah, easy to kill with 2 hits lol, not much blocks unlike the hero version> spend more for potions, then again ppl here asked for titan AoC

[opal frigate]

Just wait til those same people start crying about how unfair it is

[mild stream]

Yup😂

[tacit obsidian]

I'm actually angry. No matter the metric, there won't be ANY competition. I know there have to be winners. But somehow, there should be a way to have at least a fighting chance.

The guy that just beat me has more titan power in his 1 team than half my guild.

[opal frigate]

Bonk

[brisk cypress]

Sorry, and while i really respect your opinion on most stuff i read from you here i am very convinced that max rank patterns are irrelevant. Its still good to have them on ranks R+3 to R+4 (out of 6) and you really want Phys Atk to be on 11% for Sebastian. But thats about it.

[glacial dagger]

WOW

[mild stream]

now heal😏

[opal frigate]

I have lol

I'm just waiting for an earth+light team to appear so I can charge myself

[mild stream]

👏

[glacial dagger]

go this team no need for heal it can defeat with all health recovered

[opal frigate]

Nope. Mine beats both those teams.

[glacial dagger]

i dont trust i will try on CT what is fusion on yours

[jade otter]

f2p?

why do I not trust the fact that he's f2p

[glacial dagger]

thats not mine 🙂

[kind abyss]

you are in a top 50 CoW guild, right? which one may i ask?

[jade otter]

oooh alright then lol

[opal frigate]

More 50-50 with the earth+light team lol

[glacial dagger]

ya thats true that eden is just random

[mild stream]

ouch, those rewards are terrible lol

[glacial dagger]

🐳

[opal frigate]

What's the fifth titan for the team on the right?

[mild stream]

no, just hoarding

[glacial dagger]

wait

[glacial dagger]

solaris

[opal frigate]

Small

[brisk cypress]

HUrricane

[limpid raven]

gimme

[mild stream]

cough cough

[velvet moth]

What do you think of this map? Points per settlement are shown, the quadrant boundaries are indicated with thick black lines. Interestingly, all the 8 point settlements are presumably visible from Midtown.

[mild stream]

😏

[opal frigate]

Meanwhile

[mild stream]

😏

[glacial dagger]

ya i know u can get pass the light/dark i mean was of team on left side

[opal frigate]

Like I said: 50-50. Better win rate if I used avalon tank tho

[tacit obsidian]

I'm actually really tempted to start hailing insults. The map is worse, the matchmaking is way worse, there are less freebies. 0 incentive to play the event, except the fact that they eliminated most sources of titan resources. I should quit, most of my friends that started with me already did.

[opal frigate]

Oh look. If you buy an offer, your guildies don't get anything. Another nerf.

[mild stream]

well, they are quite stingy with cats as you can see with the prizes at the end of AoC lol

[velvet moth]

Where's the guild spirit.

[opal frigate]

There isn't one

[velvet moth]

Wait, what guild spirit - you are better off going to Tokyo, buy the City and Park explorer ticket in Go and actually have a fun time exploring that city. And it is probably cheaper to do so too!

[glass pilot]

exactly! i love pokemon go!

[gusty valley]

i feel like i mightve even had more

[gusty valley]

your on your own

[proud osprey]

So basically, unless you buy the ticket, this titan AoC is really not worth the time investment.

[gusty valley]

huh dont remember this

[mild stream]

I wonder if the titan chests are any good

[gusty valley]

something feels off here

[proud osprey]

They are, if you need titan resources. It's the titan equivalent of the hero chests from hero AoC.

[sly swan]

i learned today that charged 5w looks the exact same as uncharged 5w...

[tacit obsidian]

It was just to list it, I don't want anything free from them. Nothing's free anyway. I want to play the game. But how am I to say that my guild deserved losing if we're matched against a gold 238 guild, with (as far as I counted) 13 teams with double the power of our biggest team ?

And there always will be an obnoxious guy to say "it's a skill issue", or "it's a business". The only way for any player of my guild to have ONE team with a fighting chance would imply spending at least 5k dollars the past 6 months.

[sly swan]

i swear the entire earth team just crumbled, nova timing just killed my eden ult and got completely rolled

[mild stream]

haha, well, titan AoC shouldn't exist in the first place lol

[gusty valley]

i mean money for nexters? you think they ouwld pass on that oportunity?

[uneven cobalt]

What do you mean it does not work? Ishmael performs as poorly as Kayla afaik, doesn't he? And I saw ranked teams with Ishma

[velvet moth]

How many max Totems do they have among them? (Count that team once if there's at least one max Totem, regardless of the second totem's size if present)

[proud osprey]

Here you go. Gold/potions at the top, 35 15 seal chests last one.

[tacit obsidian]

I'm against it anyway. But with cosmic battle giving virtually third of the opportunity of brawls of getting titan resources, I have to play what there is to get them. It's almost 4 AM, I woke up to this. And with this map and rules it's a slaughterhouse.

[mossy quail]

I really wish they'd space the heck these events out more.

[velvet moth]

It's only 15. Don't give Nexters too much credit.

[uneven cobalt]

Sorry, I spent too much time datamining and internally they call guilds clan ^^ AoC is "clan domination" for example

[tacit obsidian]

The 3 I fought had 5 maxed totems.

Only one of them is missing just one rank 5 fusion too.

4 others my guildmates fought have 6 maxed totems too.

Another edit : well it's a gold guild 300 servers above us, we shouldn't be against them, this is a huge issue.

[mossy quail]

Why Adam event + AoC has to run at the same time is egregious.

[mild stream]

wow, that's pretty sad lol

[velvet moth]

They expect you to play like this - and if you have a third window open for Youtube to play music, expect Galahad's scream at least hourly and other ads to interrupt that music.

[mild stream]

don't worry, you are not alone. I'm sure majority of ppl here are unhappy about it and plenty of ppl who asked for it will like it

[velvet moth]

Oh wait - if you mean on the same account, you can't even split screen. Because only one instance of Hero Wars is allowed to be open at any given time.

[proud osprey]

Yeah, was a typo. 😄

[uneven cobalt]

This is way too frequent :/

[gusty valley]

i mixed up the reactions at the end

[uneven cobalt]

I hereby pronounce a crusade against typos! 😠

[velvet jungle]

How is that screen even possible. If there was one thing Nexter's would want to fix....

[tacit obsidian]

medium charge ? happened everytime the past 3 days for me.

[proud osprey]

My apologies! Should I go back to school? I really don't want to install gramarly.

[uneven cobalt]

No, ticket

[gusty valley]

bug on getting money? impossible!

[gusty valley]

just install scammarly, easy, simple, and safe!

[proud osprey]

Already installed - it's on hero-wars.com

[gusty valley]

make it computer wide, not on websites only

afaik you cant install things on websites

then agian, i dont have the smartest 🧠

but i do trust ai*

[proud osprey]

No no, it's built into the website itself.

[gusty valley]

ahhhh so u no install

[tacit obsidian]

Anyway, I hope someone complains about the map, resources and matchmaking of this AOC. I'm tired of complaining personally. I'm gonna start scouting games.

[gusty valley]

what games you looking for?

ive got reccomendations (in dms ofc, though you might be able to guess)

[tacit obsidian]

Send it anyway, I think we'll be going on a survival online game, or back on some mmo. My friends got tired of the grinding that's why we came to hero wars in the first place.

[opal frigate]

That is a terrible way to view life

[gusty valley]

*on certain things
read the fine print

[opal frigate]

There was no fine print. Thus, the "fine print" argument is null and void.

[gusty valley]

there is now

[opal frigate]

Can't add a fine print afterwards lol

[gusty valley]

very much so can

[opal frigate]

Not how life works, but okay.

[proud osprey]

Are you a banker?

[old cosmos]

health potion is so rare now 🙂

since they reduced the number of houses with 8 points,,.... the castle level will be tougher

[gusty valley]

my life, my choices 🙂

[gusty valley]

no i not

[old cosmos]

thats exactly my reason of playing this game too, quitted my previous korean grinding game.
i thought HW was a slow-paced game just click click, i ended up with another game moderately needing playing, even worse with much more money gated development

[tacit obsidian]

My friends that already quit, those who are miserable on HW rn, as well as myself, don't mind any of that. But if there's gonna be pvp, we're not paying money to have a chance to maybe go at best against someone (let's be optimistic) twice as strong as us at most.
Every hero AOC, not a single time it was doable (not saying fair). But this, this is too much.

[mild stream]

plenty of those will be on starboard, trust me

[opal frigate]

Pretty sure they reduced them in the f2p pass as well. But not 100% sure tho

Ooh gems

[tacit obsidian]

Lemme spoil the surprise

[gusty valley]

fun

[opal frigate]

Let me edit that real quick: "We do not care. Stop asking"

[gusty valley]

the shorter the better 🙂

gets to the point faster

[opal frigate]

They care that little, that the feedback questionnaires that we used to have are rarer and rarer now.

[mild stream]

hmm okay.... Let's see there will be rewards sucks, matchmaking isn't right, small guild facing big guilds, facing maxed totems is too hard, bugs and possibly removing AoC on starboard lol> Yikes lol

[old cosmos]

yes i feel they reduced that too, it becomes rarer now

[tacit obsidian]

used to be twice as much, maybe more. And there was 2 boosters and 1 potion to begin I think.

[opal frigate]

Look at the health potion offers. Guildies now don't get anything when you buy one.

[old cosmos]

wow. hahaha.
what do we expect well..........

now that the booster is also reduced, it will be slightly slower paced AoC for hero team

but for titan team, its easy to remove a titan team, just attack 2x

[mild stream]

hopefully titan AoC gets the League Arena treatment😂

[old cosmos]

which is.......?

they had a survey for league arena, i doubt they will have survey again.
they stopped doing survey for more than 9 months

[opal frigate]

What? Thrown to the side just to be converted into a different event?

[velvet moth]

Once to disable the Totem(s), the second time to remove the severly weakened team?

[mild stream]

League arena> never to be seen lol

[mild stream]

or gone forever hahaha

[tacit obsidian]

And let me spoil something else : I belive we're gonna get totems for NPCs in dungeon too. There's a greyed out icon that popped out of nowhere, noticed it yesterday. Mightn have been there for a couple of days at most.
So from my POV : there's one more thing you could get through playing (and paying a bit) that's gonna be eliminated.

[proud osprey]

Are you sure on the word "forever"?

[mild stream]

dunno, I don't work for nexters

[velvet moth]

It seems like the minimum team level required for Titans AoC is 50. Just checked some accounts lying around - a Team lv45 account didn't have Titans AoC, whereas a Team lv50 account did.

[gusty valley]

this lifetime?

[gusty valley]

and is it still 14 days in guild

[velvet moth]

That one I can't test - haven't levelled up any new accounts for quite some time.

[gusty valley]

i could try

but im kinda lazy. you think wolfpack would let me back in?

[velvet moth]

But would that work? I thought you were asking about account age. If the account was already outside the guild as of AoC start, wouldn't it simply not be assigned to AoC? (Although Nexters could rework it so that all guild-less accounts otherwise eligible for AoC could be arbitrarily grouped for the purposes of AoC)

[gusty valley]

herm cuz this titan aoc looks somewhat appealing, and i did ahve a good rank v primal totem. just wondering if i could pop back in for a bit

[velvet moth]

Ok, you must give Nexters credit, they did put this in their documentation.

[gusty valley]

ah ok sad

[velvet moth]

Oh and you might want to look at their (proposed) conversion rate, if you are in a one-man AoC.

[gusty valley]

ooh whats the loott atble for those titan chests

[proud osprey]

#💬general message

[velvet moth]

In other words. 3 Hero Upgrade Chest = 1 Titan Upgrade Chest. (The last item of the respective chests are 15 Gleaming Seal Chest and 50 Random Insignia)

[gusty valley]

dont ceem to b very good, hardly better than the ttop chests

mainly just no emmies 🙁

[velvet moth]

Is that before or after considering the lack of choice?

[eternal junco]

This made me laugh this fine morning

[gusty valley]

i said not very good, so both

[gusty valley]

i mean there is atlisman of brotherhood no?

[velvet moth]

There is, actually.

[eternal junco]

Does Orion count as female or male?

[gusty valley]

what they do

[eternal junco]

and where to check? 🙂

[gusty valley]

alien

[gusty valley]

check stats, mite be in the story

[velvet moth]

I think Orion is male

[eternal junco]

and what about Khark????

[gusty valley]

i think hes metal

[eternal junco]

the thing is just funny

[gusty valley]

alien for sure

[proud osprey]

This was the single one thing I was hoping to never see in this game. 😲

[uneven cobalt]

Having to fight in auto in AoC changes the teams balance substantially :/

[eternal junco]

they had to come up with a table with sex indicator 🙂

[uneven cobalt]

https://hwdaily.win/men
https://hwdaily.win/women

[eternal junco]

maybe they should publish it for the sake of transparency

[eternal junco]

You are always DA BEST.

[velvet moth]

I know that certain teams prefer manual play. For instance, Earth + something else might want to use both Totems at the same time to block the opposing Ice Age, but on Auto play this rarely happens.

[gusty valley]

@uneven cobalt congrats 🥳

[uneven cobalt]

Thank you everyone 😅

[uneven cobalt]

I find it difficult to attack an earth+light defense without manually controlling my fire+light, it feels too random

I am used to think about what I can beat by factoring in the manual play, but here all my reflexes are off

[gusty valley]

s l o w t h e g a m e d o w n

[proud osprey]

Your reflexes will now be redirected into how fast you can go from castle to town after you've been defeated.

[uneven cobalt]

That is determined by how much you are willing to spend 😉

[velvet moth]

You mean like starting with zero Action Points, one Action Point takes 24 hours to regen and the speed booster power up makes the next Action Point take 1 hour less to regen?

[eternal junco]

Use the water/fire team, higher probability than fire/light in auto

[velvet moth]

Which incidentially does make it P2W in terms of Guild ranking, because you can sit in the 1 point settlement for an extra hour through the speed booster.

[gusty valley]

oh i thought he was talking about ulting when manual playing

[uneven cobalt]

Good tip, thank you, but fire+light requires flash I think, and mine is on light

[proud osprey]

Ah, yes, I forgot to add that your reflexes now have a cooldown of 4 hours. 😄

[uneven cobalt]

"Inclusive reflex-based games for retirees"

[gusty valley]

dang i think even skeletons MIGHT have faster reflexes

[eternal junco]

true ... pity

[uneven cobalt]

Nvm, found something that works reliably. Now I just need to go back to the castle, and the go back to midtown: maybe I will be able to test it out by friday?

[proud osprey]

Nexters has a very interesting sense of humour. 🤣
(free rewards from titan AoC)

[old cosmos]

new elemental titan will come out out pet egg? the egg gives birth to titan afterall???

[old cosmos]

share it with us.

[uneven cobalt]

This one works witbh my fusion skills against the E+L teams I tested it (especially the midtown guy)

[old cosmos]

ah rip i dont have strong fire totem

[old cosmos]

but this will go down with 2 attacks anyway right? nova tank will die after 1st attack

[gusty valley]

what about the prize for 16

[uneven cobalt]

Do you have a light totem? It works also. And of course it will go down in two attacks, like anything else with titans :/

[old cosmos]

i have but not maxed.

[uneven cobalt]

not important I think

[old cosmos]

yeah thats how titan AoC is... everything go down with 2 attacks.

what do you think of the houses changes? better? they reduced the 8 points houses

[uneven cobalt]

It elevates the focus to midtown, which is frankly exhausting since the speed booster changes, and mandates you to buy the ticket

Also cleaning up the side middle villages is probably more effective than before, but once again you need consumables

[old cosmos]

btw, why does nexters keep having this Use 100 summoning spheres DAILY across the 2 back-to-back events?
Do they really think we have that many summoning spheres?
Oh yea maybe it is for the Paying players,
F2p Players cannot complete all these 100 summoning spheres daily for 3 days (cosmic) + 4 days (AoC) with total of 700 pcs for 1 week?

with weaving pattern 250pcs + Titan TOP 200pcs, i guess total summoning spheres needed is 1150 pcs per month............. definitely not for f2p players

[uneven cobalt]

I do not mind whales having more quests for them, but this leaves too little rewards for others as one or two days of daily quests provide scant resources

[kind abyss]

at least this kind of tempting us into bad decisions is 100% transparent. this is okay for me. what i hate is when they change rules without telling us in advance.

[heady orchid]

prietess has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[jaunty vale]

Ridiculous...

[echo latch]

i despise this game

HOW

WHY

[acoustic flint]

Lmao

[proud osprey]

This is a terrible change. Not only that it makes Midtown more important, but an active but weaker guild cannot counter an OP player holding Midtown (think of how ballanced matchmaking is). Even if you were to buy the ticket, how many moves does the weaker guild have to spend to win a battle against a stronger guild? At least with 6 x 8cpm towns you could stand a chance.

At the same time, the ranking rewards are a bad joke in terms of quantity (outside of the relatively nice guild frame), which makes this AoC a lot more static, boring, puts more value on holding towns and leveling up your castle. The difference between 1st and 2nd place, or 3rd and 4th, is worthy of a meme.

And to avoid anyone pointing out that "I thought you were in favour of titan AoC", I'm talking about the abysmal ranking rewards here and the unexpected changes to the map layout, not the event itself.

[echo latch]

WHAT

HOW

[ebon scroll]

use kayla variant instead of ishmael

[old cosmos]

hehe, i remember that you were supportive of titan AOC so much as well 😛
until you kept countering my arguments 😛
joke rewards indeed.

[uneven cobalt]

I do not see why Kayla would change much. Imo it is just a matter of luck with crits

[echo latch]

a

its ok next run i got extremely lucky

maxed heroes and pets with 100 coin left

[old cosmos]

btw what happens to the seals after you max all your titan seals? (ofc not the new ones).

[proud osprey]

Nothing.

[echo latch]

did not crit gg

i did this first try on my alt

[echo latch]

actually, kayla team is much more efficient lmao

no idea why but

first try yay

[acoustic flint]

Sell for coins

[proud osprey]

The event itself is one thing, which I'm in favour of. But the complete lack of rewards give me no incentive to even bother to do anything else than just look for a town and spend my moves to get there. This completely nullifies any form of competition; it ruins the event.

I remember many complaining they have to be active. Well... no, you don't. It's pointless. 🤣 This is just a 4 day clash.

[echo latch]

for half the buying price 😭

[gusty valley]

better than 0

do you remember the time when you were stuck with them and you werent able to sell em

[echo latch]

nope xD

[past fog]

all my time for this, I dont think so :/

[velvet moth]

Why are the rewards so insulting, except perhaps for that banner which around 25% of guilds are gonna get (by definition), except if possibly those guilds comprise entirely of players between Team lv30-49?

[vale summit]

Popcorn time again for ToT?

[eternal junco]

The fancy frame for the banner is really nice to be fair, understated elegance, much classier than the loud vulgar COW frame

[opal frigate]

Yeah but it means absolute jack-all compared to the CoW frame. Don't get me wrong, the CoW frame has little to no value, but this is just abysmal.

[paper hedge]

Why is there so few health potions in this event?

[paper hedge]

I mean that banner is a flex... but other than that those seem bad unless you can gurantee you get first place 10 times a row which will amount to quite a bit

[boreal thunder]

I don't know what many are complaining about: I got midtown and been holding it for 50 mins now. With no healing and a 3star water. Never happened in HAoC! Haha!

[uneven cobalt]

I can't manage to use Adam efficiently (>80% success) against polaris-thea-jorgen-fluffy-electra :/ Nor against other current arena teams

[mild stream]

how about I sell you?😏

[vale summit]

fo one dolla hahahahaha

[mild stream]

🤑

[harsh skiff]

well if you had a decent opponent you'd be the one complaining. Cos that would last a few seconds

[tacit obsidian]

cheaper than aoc potion, damn

[vale summit]

haahahahahahaha

[vale summit]

🤣

[boreal thunder]

Ik, just jokingly flexing something unexpected. Not much activity so far. But they ousted me now, after 75 mins.

[harsh skiff]

let's see how many seconds I can hold it for. Why that team you ask? To get rid of the Earth team in there and so that when Last Flash claims my front titan I still have a Fire totem for a 2nd block lol

the log for defending 32 is hilarious, it's just 1 in, 1 out 😄

[mild stream]

damn, I should look into AoC haha

[vale summit]

its titans after all.. something everybody would expect. mayb 1 succesfull defence but the next you out..

[harsh skiff]

yeh I just got absolutely belted, had 1 titan left after it

[vale summit]

This event ngl... is about who got the most health potions and recovers.

[harsh skiff]

won't be me, I'm not spending on this dumpster fire of an event

[vale summit]

hehehe this came too mind for myself... wood you stay with jester i WANT VIPER lol...

[mild stream]

who wouldn''t?😏

[tacit obsidian]

30 dollars for 20 potions 🦦

[harsh skiff]

except in this there ain't no hard deck and this event is about as healthy and falling 1000 feet

[vale summit]

I just joined this weak guild.. least i can do is try to get them that banner.. they be verry happy with it

[vale summit]

i know i know...

so negative... have some fun

[harsh skiff]

I don't get why they couldn't foresee the problem of healing, winning team should heal automatically. Titans are so different to heroes for taking dmg and healing again. My dead grandma could've seen this issue coming

[vale summit]

weak defence but hard in attack..

[harsh skiff]

and no manual attacks either to preserve my health better on attacks, just completely loses my interest for this rubbish

[vale summit]

hahahahaha .. hey than dont play.

[harsh skiff]

I won't

[mild stream]

Just sit back and let the bik boys do the work😎

[vale summit]

hehe like i said 1 defence and next attack out

[tacit obsidian]

My guild <> our opponents.
Clearly a skill issue.

[harsh skiff]

wish our opponents were that size

[velvet moth]

This is typical after winning an attack against your opponent's max Totem

[harsh skiff]

yep, enjoy using a healing potion

for every attack for 4 days

[velvet moth]

By the way, the same team gets defeated if the opponent attacks first, though it leaves them with a similar amount of health.

[vale summit]

waaauw... realllyyy dammmmmm haha

[velvet moth]

And they won't let you use all those healing potions you hoarded from the Hero AoC pass either! You know, those healing potions that you didn't claim because it was a hopeless AoC.

[harsh skiff]

that's correct

which is why the game mode is just garbage

[tidal cloud]

about Titans and Totems, do the Summoner Titans make it so that a team can now have 3 Totems maximum?
Dark & Light totems used to require 2 Titans to activate rather than 3, is this still the case?

[vale summit]

no 2 is max

light summoner doesnt coount for 2

[tidal cloud]

ohhh :(

3 totems would have been crazy

[vale summit]

bwah... i dont know.. can you make a decent team with 3 elements having 3 totems active that lasts long enough to activate all 3?

[tidal cloud]

oh yeah fair point

[vale summit]

imo... Lumira acts as a totem as well..

[tidal cloud]

I don't have much knowledge of what the summoners do, I was taking a break from the game when the last 4 came out 😅

[vale summit]

ok

[mild stream]

I reckon 3 totems will overload the game and will need a good graphics card hahaha

[vale summit]

wich i have haha... but its not practical.

[mild stream]

haha

[boreal thunder]

They did foresee it. Thats why there are less potions in the pass and none in the quests...!

[harsh skiff]

So true

[vale summit]

but cheap to buy lol

[boreal thunder]

Just buy 2nd bundle 5 times, then it's 25! That should last at least 65 secs longer.

[mild stream]

Cheap, the pass is. But its worth, question you must, hmm?

[tacit obsidian]

exactly like an arcade game.

[mild stream]

Eh, depends

[vale summit]

Okidoki

never bought it before... but is there a limit on how many times you buy those?

[mild stream]

they should be unlimited to buy hehe

[old cosmos]

KekW>

I remember last time health potion has many pcs in the castle reward, now....... only 1 1 1 1..............

[boreal thunder]

I'd be very very very very very...etc surprised.

[vale summit]

Than be surprised..

[boreal thunder]

Ah, you mean the daily 1k limit?

[vale summit]

the what?

i just refer to this.

[boreal thunder]

I've read someone say there's a $1000 daily limit.

[vale summit]

ok.. damm daily?? thats what i spend in 1 year... let allone everyday... thats crazy that somebody actually hit that mark

[boreal thunder]

My €10 in a year would call yours crazy! 🤣 But I won't let them! 😄

[vale summit]

Thats ok... it was that or 4k a year doing something else.. haha ... i am cheap that way.

[prisma prairie]

this titan aoc is such bs bro literally everyones running the same water teams all over

[vale summit]

yummieee

[prisma prairie]

and the rewards arent even that good 🫠

at least if they could make u fight them manually maybe it would be a little more interesting

[vale summit]

maybe so.. but tbf i would like to get that banner frame though

[tiny vector]

I was saying this would happen as soon as they announced it

[opal frigate]

lol

@sick orchid

[vale summit]

what a crap team

[mild stream]

Buffed?🤨

[wild warren]

Titan AOC isn't going on server 629.. why???

[latent tinsel]

guilds not old enough? lol

[wild warren]

just 2 weeks but we have teams around 200k already

[velvet moth]

When your account reaches Team lv50 and 2 weeks of age, it can play AoC. Nexters does matchmake guilds for AoC even if none of the accounts in it are AoC-eligible at the time.

[wild warren]

But we can't see AOC here and we have 100+ team levels even 130s here also

[velvet moth]

Are the accounts 2 weeks old yet? When it reaches 2 weeks, on your next refresh you will suddenly see the AoC castle appear. No, Nexters doesn't care about "balance" and you have to claw your way from the defecit relative to the other guilds, they care less than Last Z in this regard.

[wild warren]

Oh I think there are 2 days to complete 2 weeks 😄

But I don't worry. I play AOC in server 318 and ofc. it's a rubbish

[velvet moth]

Sorry, but I think I can do without the banner frame.

Yes having max Totems is one part of the equation, but you also need lots of Healing Potions (and attentiveness - if your defense somehow succeeded, it probably has lost its Totems!!!) especially if Midtown is part of your plan.

And I can sense that they intend for you to buy lots of Healing Potions for little other rewards.

[onyx shoal]

Can anyone tell me whats the best option in 2 lesser hero soul stone chest and one hero soul stone chest i cant decide😅

[velvet moth]

Ok - which of these heroes do you currently have, from the following: Lara Croft, Ninja Turtles, Cascade, Lyria, Electra, Guus, Fluffy, Jet. (No, Cleaver does not count.)

[onyx shoal]

only Fluffy

arent those the heroes you cant get from the chests?

[velvet moth]

Precisely - and the popular teams tend to use at least one of those heroes. Meaning that Nexters has successfully given you an incentive to try and max the new Heroes in their respective event.

[onyx shoal]

so which one hero should i choose?

[old cosmos]

if your main team is not full star yet, you shud do your main team

[velvet moth]

That one you should ask other people, I’m not good at Hero teams.

[velvet moth]

I presume they have Fluffy, the beginner heroes and Adam, and need help building their “main team”.

[onyx shoal]

ok, thanks for info tho

i have quite some hero`s for early grinding as well fyi

[old cosmos]

what do you like to play?

if you have fluffy surely electra magic team is prob the best option

[velvet moth]

No Electra

[old cosmos]

but you dont have electra at the box

and no cascade too, so maybe get krista

do you have electra from soul atrium?

[onyx shoal]

Cleaver, Astrid, K`arkh, Celeste and Arachne

[onyx shoal]

no 🙁

so i should get krista?

[old cosmos]

without electra....

[onyx shoal]

ok

[old cosmos]

wait

im thinking what team you can build for starter team lol

do you want magic or physical

[onyx shoal]

Physical

got it 🙂

[old cosmos]

if you want physical, then galahad lyria sebastian

[onyx shoal]

ok

[old cosmos]

eh i thought i said wait, lol, nvm.....

[onyx shoal]

its ok i have more than one chest

[old cosmos]

sebastian is a must for physical team, Lyria is very good hero for physical team penetration buff

[onyx shoal]

btw i have sebastian arld 🙂

[old cosmos]

max his star

[onyx shoal]

ok

[old cosmos]

lyria is not in the box too, sad

then you can only prepare for sebastian imo. he will be useful no matter what.

[onyx shoal]

im also bout to rank my astrid

[velvet moth]

Astrid is a bad choice

[old cosmos]

dont do that, unpopular hero, too easy to counter

[onyx shoal]

my cousin ussually plays my acc

she told me to do it so i did it

[velvet moth]

Some heroes look good at early gameplay but fall off later - just look at Yasmine. There’s a reason why the Yasmine “Mega offer” does not show at all above a certain Team level.

[onyx shoal]

ohhhh

[old cosmos]

dont build astrid, very bad choice

[onyx shoal]

ik now im going to focus on sabastion

[old cosmos]

what is the latest hero added to the box? i thought with adam we should get a new hero added, i thought lyria is added

oh folio only.

[sinful lava]

folio was added

[velvet moth]

(To be fair, you have to play pretty suboptimally to do that - you are limited to the first 5 campaign missions up to around Team lv30)

[onyx shoal]

i thought folio was arld added to the box

[sinful lava]

folio was added to the hero soul stone boxes, and electra was added to the soul atrium

[old cosmos]

if you want you can wait 2 more months when there is new hero (defintely, bec that gives the company money), then you take lyria from box

[onyx shoal]

???

[velvet moth]

I think Lyria will be the next one to be added in 2 months?

[old cosmos]

for now just save your box

[old cosmos]

yes aft folio is lyria

[sinful lava]

is lyria even good?

[old cosmos]

just save your box Oreo

lyriais very good

[onyx shoal]

lesser or normal

[sinful lava]

i good electra from atrium and shes so good

[old cosmos]

both

[onyx shoal]

ok

[sinful lava]

and also augustus when he was added to the boxes

[velvet moth]

I remember the good times when the chest said “except for the following heroes: Cleaver, Jet, Polaris.”

[old cosmos]

electra is good yes, but oreo cannot get her from atrium now

[onyx shoal]

btw i got adam

[old cosmos]

yes

lyria will work extremely well with adam

[onyx shoal]

should i use my gems for atrium?

[old cosmos]

lyria tank can make adam ulti very hard hit

adam can stack penetration early

[old cosmos]

dont, that was my mistake when i was new

[velvet moth]

If you wanted to, wasn’t 2 days ago the better time to do so?

[onyx shoal]

ok

[velvet moth]

Of course, one might have thought about dipping more ways. But then Nexters felt the need to debug Titan AoC to reduce the dipping and quite possibly to make it use a different item ID for those healing and speed potions.

[onyx shoal]

ok btw i have to go now bye

[sinful lava]

if you want to, wait for the 50% deal for it, you get much better bang for your buck then

[old cosmos]

dont do that still, emeralds is much more useful at other place

unless you are a hard spender

[velvet moth]

Hero Top has overlapped with the Soul Atrium and Artifact Chest discounts

[harsh skiff]

count yourself lucky

[velvet moth]

Still, I prefer to use Emeralds on the Totem. 45k in the summoner and then however many it takes to make it lv130.

[paper hedge]

Fr

And we get so few, we need more potions than hero’s AOC but they give so little

Free pass only has 3 compared to Hero’s free pass which had more than 8

[pseudo stone]

hey!! you know of this guild by any chance?

[opal frigate]

Wut?

[harsh skiff]

faced them a few times in CoW, I recall they had 1 very smart player who obviously had a great grasp of the game and the rest were just your average decent sized guild

[paper hedge]

Health potions, speed boosters and how active you’re on AoC reclaiming your midtown every 2 minutes for 4 days 😂

[mild stream]

🍄‍🟫

[paper hedge]

I'm still surprised how I'm here for 4 hours now wowo....

[agile cipher]

What is best spent on?

[vale summit]

atrium.. worst place to use emeralds on... well second worst place... rarity fair is nr1

[rapid marsh]

I think Asherona is reinforcing the fire tower.

38 million

[vale summit]

wut wut wuuuuut hahahahaha ... some people .. pfff just want attention.

[old cosmos]

totem first 2 pcs (45k ems), then levelling up totem to level 130

[rapid marsh]

No, I don't actually use Asheron even though I own a fire tower. Can you imagine?

🤣

[agile cipher]

👍

[vale summit]

sure i can...

[rapid marsh]

Imagine, almost the same formation used by the team. I don't just use it; I think that's why my Naar Tower doesn't cause much damage.

[vale summit]

👍

[rapid marsh]

my team

[vale summit]

👍

[vale summit]

using the same by default only i use lumira.

[mild stream]

did Araji leave on holiday?

[digital flax]

Can someone tell what talisman for chapter 4 kayla team variation?

[vale summit]

hahahaha o my days i didnt even spotted that hahahaha

[vale summit]

Attack only

[mild stream]

haha

[keen tulip]

nice Vision bug

[rapid marsh]

Hmm, I'm thinking of using the same configuration as this one.

[rapid marsh]

I already have it, but when I add it to my lineup, I don't notice a big difference, and on top of that, the damage it causes is weak on mine, lol.

[vale summit]

Brooo.... put arraji in... not noticing... dam you...

[rapid marsh]

😂

[vale summit]

you giving up araji for vulcan???

[rapid marsh]

I think it's a formation that I should use.

[rapid marsh]

mmmm

[vale summit]

And yes vulcans ult does more damage than arajis ult.( per sec that is.)

[rapid marsh]

Yes, I've promoted him a lot and he's my strongest player. I'm still thinking about adding Asheron to my team; I think it will increase my chances of winning.

[mild stream]

Araji helps lol

[vale summit]

if vulcan can ult 1 time... and araji being in the back he can probably ult 2 times.. then i still want araji there . The 1 hit from vulcan (5mill) vs the 2 times araji ult (7 sec hit times 2 =14sec.. at 1,3mill/sec) thats what like 17mill damage?

[rapid marsh]

yas

hahah

Wow, what a huge difference!

[vale summit]

hehe Guildbattles on max?

[rapid marsh]

No, I'm just experimenting, and the giants are still under development.

😞

[vale summit]

wdym no.... combat training on max than?

[rapid marsh]

My obstacle is a lack of development resources. (lol)

[rapid marsh]

This is the easiest way for me to know what to use to inject into my basic formation.

I still have a long way to go.

[vale summit]

well i guess you missed the fact that leaving ARAJI out isnt a good thing... you just noticed that cause we pointed that out TODAY

[rapid marsh]

yas

[vale summit]

Skipp that 1... focus on araji

[rapid marsh]

ok

is not bad level 101

[vale summit]

🤦‍♂️

[rapid marsh]

Didn't I tell you that it's difficult to obtain development resources, and this is what I've achieved in its development?

😢

[vale summit]

you did.. i been reading

[rapid marsh]

😞

@vale summit
wow is so good

tanxs bor

[sick orchid]

splash is handing out poisonous carrots to everyone before the battle

[sick orchid]

upgrade this more if you can

[mighty leaf]

Im not fun of this totem and its stuffs, but. Why are the rewards they’re giving so small on tAoC? Is the Primal and Elemental Catalyst really that important?

[sick orchid]

do you know what fusion is?

just wondering

[rapid marsh]

ok

[past fog]

me :]

[mighty leaf]

Yes I know fusion. I’m asking if those catalysts are that important that they had to nerf the rewards this hard. And whn using those stuff already feels like gambling since there’s no guaranteed win. The rewards are already small, then you can still end up wasting them if you get unlucky.

[sick orchid]

have you considered the fact that the game is 90% p2w?

they're clearly nerfing the recources (which are already not too easy to get) so that way people might pay more money for them

[vale summit]

they all know.. but its easier to complain.

[long isle]

It seems the golden ticket for ToT is more consequential than that of AoC

[gentle plover]

bruh

do you all pay money for recources?

[vale summit]

i seen you get alot of those

[woven tangle]

Not everyone

[gentle plover]

I don't

[vale summit]

Good for you .

[gentle plover]

thank you

how much time did you take to reach level 130?

[paper hedge]

My teammate went for the same guy twice 😭

[paper hedge]

It sure is pretty small, but assuming you somehow win 10 times straight, you get 300 and 500 of each, which is quite a lot, but ofc a lot of people are complaining about the amount, which I can agree with too

[mild stream]

All part of AoC lol

[paper hedge]

But elemental cats are rather rare resources, so it makes sense for them to put it low

[paper hedge]

I wrote in the chat to not go for someone you can't take on right after that lol

[mild stream]

I usually like to do that, just to make sure he dies lol

[paper hedge]

I'm surprised I've been staying at my post for 7 hours now lol

[paper hedge]

Who dies??

[mild stream]

the same target ofc

[paper hedge]

Oh you better not go for that guy again-

[paper hedge]

But you are giving them like 500 coins while doing that

[mild stream]

I usually do it on 3rd/4th day lol

[long isle]

Also the the many heals I feel are far more important

[vale summit]

didnt say the dolls were more important.. just noticed the difference with AOC.. nothing more

[clever cypress]

Srry didn't make a log.
lv 130 or beating last campaign boss isn't your main goal
A decent team is

[gentle plover]

I know, but for having an idea

[long isle]

Maybe I misspoke, I didn’t mean heals more important than dolls, I mean heals in ToT more important than heals in AoC

[vale summit]

indeed thats true

[boreal thunder]

I don't know if they're more important, possibly. For sure in ToT if you don't pay you barly have any.

[long isle]

AoC because of the nature of hero battles it’s not uncommon to finish multiple fights with good health. With titans it seems like a heal is mandatory after each fight

[tiny vector]

have to just be lucky to find a weak team to charge your titans on before you have the real fights

[boreal thunder]

Not after every necessarly, depends on teams (if you're charged and with totem) but yeah more often fo shor. On the other hand there are more walking around heavily maimed (considering it's first day).

[past fog]

thats why we cut up with healing potions here and in AoC we cut up with Action points :]

[velvet moth]

Well - the opponents don't have this available as a target.

[long isle]

Please join my group and send that team to my castle 👍

[vale summit]

hahahahaha

[velvet moth]

The issue is that it's not even allowed to deploy onto the AoC map. It should have a 33% chance to spawn behind each enemy castle and a 1% chance to directly spawn in Midtown (in which case it flies out when the actual occupier gets defeated - Lentor's team won't defend in that case but will still earn 32/min).

[woeful grove]

do these new aoc chests include bmbbs

[old cosmos]

can I ask how does this calculator have difference of 198 energies from buying / not buying the ticket?

Isn't it 150 energy in the ticket pass?

[past fog]

vip points

medalions

[old cosmos]

ok so 150 + 20 (medal) and 28 (1500 vip points)

[uneven cobalt]

Probably because of the medallions quest

Ah, yes, that also 🙂

[old cosmos]

its really strange that this time buying ticket + 7 daily light charge still lack 90 energies,...
why does it feel so different than usual.

even though you told me they gave lesser energy from quest, but not as much as 90

[uneven cobalt]

Are you comparing to Lumira? Because this one was much more generous. You need to compare to Byrna

[old cosmos]

i used to be able to get ch7 by buying ticket + 7 daily charges.
no, not lumira, comparing to fluffy and before.

[uneven cobalt]

I encourage you to look at the details for the energy breakdown, it will tell you exactly what has changed

[old cosmos]

why this one is more generous btw? isnt it less? since they reduce energy from quest

@uneven cobalt look at this, this difference in total energy is not as much as 90+

i only put ch7 and then buy ticket and 7 daily charges (with 48 free energies from nexters)

something is not working in this adam calculator.....?

need help, fragrator.... haha...

left side is from fluffy https://hwdaily.win/fluffy-event

[untold canopy]

your tome is lvl 5

[uneven cobalt]

Look at the energy details

You will immediately have your answer