What stats are good for your role?

[dusky moth]

Depends on the champ specifically but most cases id argue Champion damage is the most important

[placid quarry]

99999 turret damage, says a splitpusher main

teamfight can be 0 for all i care

[merry gazelle]

For carry lanes (mid and adc) gold per minute, high kda (since you can’t die), high damage dealt, for toplaners the kda should be slightly less than mids and adc, if you play a bruiser top gold per minute and high values of damage dealt and damage taken, if you play tank tops damage dealt will be lower and damage taken higher and gold per minute slightly less as well compared to bruisers top. Jungler gold per minute, and kill participation and then same thing as top. If you play bruisers more damage dealt than tanks jungler and tank junglers more damage taken then bruiser jungler. And tank junglers will get slightly less gold than bruiser junglers imo

[zealous bison]

I have never seen anyone good with a negative wr, just because you think they are good with negative wr doesn't make it valid because you also have a negative wr, so i highly doubt if your consideration for Good is actually good

[merry gazelle]

Yeah agree with that but didn’t want to touch that topic

Imagine this scenario. Last season I hit 58 marks with 63% win rate and 193 games starting emerald 4 and only playing solo. I have a friend who hit sovereign with 1100 games with a 45% win rate playing duos and trios and solos. You can’t convince me and anyone he is a good player

[placid quarry]

not always

the true most important stat is gpm

and thats even as a sp btw

[dusky moth]

It depends on the champ/role

But in most cases id argue its very important

[placid quarry]

yes wait until i get highest champ damage on lulu sp

then you take back everything you said

🤑 🤑 🤑

[dusky moth]

I literally said it depends. Not every champ cares about high damage numbers

Actually read the whole thing next time

[placid quarry]

and im literally being ironic if it isnt obvious enough

like lmfao youre stating something so obvious, its crazy

[placid girder]

Ok still not too concerned with it and it wasn't the point of this as I'm interested in VALUES for each stat which would be considered good

But thank you for contributing 😂

actually kind of crazy that this turned into personal attacks when I'm looking for advice on what stats would be considered good for the metrics I listed lol.

[merry gazelle]

Your statement was asking for some comment about it ngl. But just read my first paragraph and hope it helps

[placid girder]

I'll reword it

[placid quarry]

im just poking fun of this guy for stating something that didnt need to be stated

like yes!!!! champ damage is most important on most champs!!!!

if not whats the point of playing!!!

[placid girder]

so far I'm not getting a lot of good answers lol i'm looking for actual values

like for me seeing a support with 600 gpm is fine

but if i saw a jungle with 600gpm that'd be abysmal

[placid quarry]

if you want actual values for gpm

[merry gazelle]

I can show you my jungler bruiser values but they way way above average

[placid quarry]

800 at the very least barring support

[placid girder]

yeah that'd be helpful tbh

like if you play jungle bruiser, these are GOOD values

[placid girder]

like that's how people can actually improve I think is to see - these are what you should shoot for

[merry gazelle]

This was last season. Also way above average

[placid quarry]

I definitely would want there to be a display where I could see my gpm after each game.

[merry gazelle]

You literally just have to divide your gold by the minutes of the game

[placid quarry]

This is true

[placid girder]

i'm as good at math as I am at wild rift

[merry gazelle]

Use a calculator. Is literally just a division

[summer parcel]

Yes

Does having 810 gpm can be considered as being good or just decent?

[placid quarry]

800+ gpm is good. 900 is really good. 1000+ is exceptional.

[placid quarry]

As adc and jg gpm and kda

Better kda= died less

Can farm and so on

[placid quarry]

Depends on role if jg ur buns

Mid idk just weird role

Team fight stats ig

Shows u rotated

And is on objs

Supp tanked healed team fight

Baron turret team fight

Dmg per min on champ is buns stats

U can just perma fight

And get good dmg but ur kda and allat is buns

[placid quarry]

Eh, 800 gpm isn't as bad as you say. It's definitely good. 700 gpm is around par.

[placid quarry]

Its bad trust me

[grizzled mica]

how about u make good plays that win the game during which u dont kill anyone and dont have super good gpm

[placid quarry]

I don't

I got 1.150 gpm this season

As jungle

[placid quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/gg-googd-game-good-job-wanna-medal-gold-medal-gif-27311750

[placid quarry]

U played bad overall in the game

Then made a good play

Nothing more

[grizzled mica]

u dont always have to be ahead to carry

average is good enough

[placid quarry]

If ur a tank yeah but then ur tanked dmg per death is gonna be a alot

[grizzled mica]

its also about locking down a fed target or splitpushing and drawing the opponents attention

[placid quarry]

Nah im just making it as example that its easy to have high gpm as jungke

[grizzled mica]

u dont have to be ahead for that

[placid quarry]

If ur split pushing

I said turret dmg also good stats

[grizzled mica]

i mean u dont have to splitpush whole game

[placid quarry]

U can't lock down a feed enemy unless u tank u just gonna feed them otherwise

[grizzled mica]

if u just splitpush at the right time

[grizzled mica]

if u engage late enough u wknt

[placid quarry]

Ur team dead then

Its too late

We talking about a feed enemy

Cant wait to engage ur team is dead

If you wait

[grizzled mica]

ur team needs a brain first of all and u might have a fed person as well and if u play with them correctly then u got a chance

[placid girder]

ok but like what's a good KDA for each role

to try and wrangle this back on track

[placid quarry]

Like take 1 turret and nexus when they doing 4v5 obj yeah another good play u did garbage the whole game then did a good play?

[placid girder]

5-7: Good
8-11: god tier

[placid quarry]

Kda hella hero dependent

[grizzled mica]

people who care about their stats have too much time on their hands that's all im gonna say then goodbye

[placid quarry]

Enchanter supps got very inflated kda

[placid quarry]

Bro said a bunch on nonsense then said this after his empty brain couldn't come up with more dumb stuff

[grizzled mica]

ig ur one of those then

[placid quarry]

Lets say u play aatrox

[grizzled mica]

get a job then

[placid quarry]

Ur a reset champ that basically 1 shots

Hard to have bad kda

Then take like garen

U can just split push

Soak dmg

And finish of people with r

But won't get many assists or kills

Just soaking dmg

In team fights

And like have a 3 kds

Cuz u died for the team

Can't really judge and say its bad kda when the hero did what its supposed to do

[placid quarry]

Sub 5 coping

[grizzled mica]

what does that even mean gang

[placid girder]

I think my initial point of this thread was to provide metrics for people to strive for

beyond just going "i have a 79% wr"

[grizzled mica]

if ur that bored then sure

[placid girder]

like the reason people have high wr in my head is because their other stats are solid

maybe i'm wrong

[placid quarry]

Big news

[grizzled mica]

ig we are forgetting the inting strat

prolly patched tho

[placid girder]

even inting strat you have very high turret damage then

so one could say if you want to play inting here's turret dmg to try and match

idk

it's wr so this is like herding cats

[dusky moth]

false. morgana can give you an afk warning,renekton and pantheon and point and click 1.5 second stuns,vi ult,j4 ult,veigar cage,etc

outher characters have lockdown that arn't tanks

[placid quarry]

U gonna die bro

Take like a feeded adc

They got qqs

And just run you down

Or even worse like a feeded yi aatrox

[dusky moth]

a fed yi with qss literaly has no counterplay and aatrox hella broken

[placid quarry]

You got which is tanks

Take poppy

Ali

Ammu

And so on

Multiple cc

Can outlast the qqs

And keep stunning

[dusky moth]

qss gives tenacity after use. yi can dodge the follow up with alpha strike and aatrox will proceed to heal to full while chuncking your team before you can stun again

[placid quarry]

even thats not entirely true btw

ive won my team games dealing barely any turret damage

and all i did was stand in vision

[placid girder]

you guys are the worst lol

[placid quarry]

?

you dont have to necessarily take turret to successfully splitpush

[placid girder]

no one has answered the actual question except for maybe 700-1000 gold per min is good for jungle

[placid quarry]

If they are locked down, then they aren't a problem for the time they are locked down in most cases. Jarvan ult still allows the adc to shoot, but if they get knocked up by Nautilus ult, then there is nothing they can do for that duration. You cannot cleanse the knock up.

[merry gazelle]

.

[placid quarry]

you asked for stats tho

and we did give you some

were you expecting exact numbers (which varies fucking wildly per champ, role, and playstyle)

the only real number we can give you here is gpm because thats a tangible stat line that still measures how successful you are

[placid girder]

proportion of A and S compared to overall games (ie. 10% 30% 50% etc)
KDA
teamfight participation
GPM
Champion damage dealt/match
Champion damage taken/match
Turret damage/match

Per champ then or per role

[placid quarry]

tf is A and S

[dusky moth]

you kinda can if you qss before the ult hits

[placid girder]

A rank, S rank

[placid quarry]

True

[placid quarry]

you have to be even more specific than this

• are you looking for an average game, or everything in general but averaged?
• what about stats to performance disparity? some champs are absolute 1v9 machines late game despite having shit stats
• counting skill level or assuming youre the best player anyones ever seen?

like im not trying to make it difficult for you, i genuinely just cannot give you a number you like without knowing all these

neither can most people, i think