#Why the fuck do you play Senna support? (rant warning)

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crystal oasis
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I see supps pick it in soloq and it immediately tilts me. It's always some bullshit autofilled SOB who wants to play a dealer as supp. Like if you want to play a dealer PLAY ADC OR MID OR ANY OTHER LINE. SUPP IS THERE TO SUPPORT THE ADC. PLEASE.

Besides, what benefit is there to senna support?
Outhealed and Outsustained by literally every enchanter supp
No meaningful CC or Engage tools except for W, which noone is getting hit by btw.
Damage isn't even that great in the early game, totally useless if the enemy has the slightest bit of sustain.

"oh yeah but late game beast"
OK THEN FUCKING PLAY MID VEIGAR
NOT BE A USELESS DOG IN THE EARLY GAME AND RUIN YOUR ADC'S LANE.

Any senna supp players care to change my mind?

rancid oar
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Pretty much every benefit you listed is wrong. Her heal is good, she has an AOE cc so IDK what you're on about there. Her E helps you get in and out of fights and makes you untargetable. Her early game damage is absolutely bonkers I'm not sure what you mean here. SHe outranges Caitlin as well

crystal oasis
brittle kayak
crystal oasis
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sometimes you gotta sacrifice and play for the team to win even if you wanna carry

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being autofilled supp and playing leona or lulu doesn't mean you can't pick up a single high-dmg champ for the rest of ur life

brittle kayak
crystal oasis
brittle kayak
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Its kinda like how alot of people that get autofilled mid (it rarely happens but ive seen it) play yasuo for some reason then proceed to run it down since their bad at yas

crystal oasis
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It's like they wanna lose

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But then problem is your team doesn't want to

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so you're being a menace to society by doing that to your team

brittle kayak
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Intas do some dumb stuff like assassin supp or goofy crap like garen

crystal oasis
crystal oasis
brittle kayak
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Anything else just isn't worth

rancid oar
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The aoe cc can be used for lane control

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I'm still confused how you'd think this is a bad support

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The stun distance can be shortened but I mean it's .....skill? Like you have to plan where to shoot it

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I'm sorry senna hurt you but there are far worse picks as support

brittle kayak
inland sleet
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And Senna right now is not even being played as she is supposed to, she builds utility/tank

sturdy maple
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Senna can be such an oppressive support with how much range she has

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I played rakan once into an ashe senna and it was a nightmare

glossy lake
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play into her enchanters or short range team comps then she’s actually a pretty good pick

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she can easily farm souls off enchanters and she bullies them hard

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but yeah she can be a bad pick a lot of the time

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they did buff her recently and she’s become stronger, and there’s even a chinese lethality build that some people are doing that’s strong

crystal oasis
crystal oasis
glossy lake
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yeah if they’re bad but if you’re good you can bully them

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i mean i don’t think senna supp is that good but in the right game she can actually be really good

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just again pick her into enchanters and low range comp basically

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and don’t pick her into dive or engage unless she has some way to counter their engage or dive

drowsy junco
blazing laurel
# crystal oasis I see supps pick it in soloq and it immediately tilts me. It's always some bulls...

  1. her dmg isnt that bad in the early game, and with her range you can bully enemy laners rather easily if your own adc is competent enough to not stand there and do nothing

  2. she has the rare ability to deal good dmg, and also do good healing/shielding, every Q healing easily 200-300 hp (at least) and her ult having crazy AOE shielding is truly lovely

  3. yes people can dodge her W, boohoo, just aim better as a senna if they dodge, great, oh well, people can dodge lots of cc not just hers

  4. you acted like her scaling is no biggie, just play veigar. No i dont feel like it, senna scales range, attack damage, and crit, viegar scales ap, more is better

  5. “wah wah wah support is meant to support the ad-“ NO ITS NOT, support is meant to help the team and ensure you win the game, just like every other role, senna “supports the team” by providing great damage, and great healing and shielding, she also can buy items such as antiheal and antishield leaving her adc the option to buy more damaging items since she has debuffs covered. Additionally you said “it immediately tilts me”, when you are tilted you play worse, making your lane worse, making the support have less potential to have a good game, senna thrives when playing with good adc’s

  6. its solo Q, just like you cant trust your support to play well, your support cant trust you to play well, making them decide to play a character with more carry potential if you are bad, that also brings good supportive potential as well incase you are good, while at the same time having the win condition of hitting her stacks, I personally love the 120-140 soul stacks because somewhere around that is where you outrange turrets, have 100% free crit probably, some free lifesteal, and like 170 bonus attack damage

  7. you contradict yourself “its always some autofilled sob” “play mid or adc”, if they are autofilled, they got forced into supp, they very well may be a mid/adc main

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to continue

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in many games as senna I can get comparative healing/shielding to enchanter supports on the enemy team while also providing tens of thousands more damage then them

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also, when playing with a good adc, senna is able to do so so so much, with a good adc I can normally poke the enemy out of lane early due to her long range and sustain from her Q healing both her and adc at the same time AND dealing damage if you aim it right

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i feel you may be getting incredibly unlucky with the senna teamates you get, either them picking senna with the wrong team comps or just playing bad, or you being tilted may be subtly messing with your own performance and making it harder for the senna to truly shine, although as i said before, the entire point of playing carry supports is that if your adc is bad or if no one on your team is truly a hypercarry for you to just press lulu W for free monotonous wins, you still have power in your own right to carry and scale

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anyways thats just how I see it

gusty maple
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Senna support is S tier rn

brittle kayak
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At least with senna they are at least trying to play supp and aren't playing brand or lux supp

blazing laurel
# blazing laurel 1. her dmg isnt that bad in the early game, and with her range you can bully ene...

another thing to mention, is support is just like every other role! SUPPORT IS JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER ROLE, you dont get mad at the jungler playing assassin, you dont crash out when your top laner picks rumble instead of ornn

Every single role technically has a specific class
Top lane: tanks
jungle: bruisers
midlane: mages
adc: adc
support: enchanters
(obviously this is generalized! it varies greatly, thats my entire point)

That is in a general sense stereotypical champions of each role. But each role has more options, bruiser top laners, ap or tank junglers (and kindred), AD midlaners, APC like ziggs, AND FCKIN CARRY/TANK SUPPORTS

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you dont crash out when your jungler goes full tank, you dont crash out when your top laner picks a non tank, you dont even crash out when your midlaner goes something AD like jayce

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people only crash out when supports want to have their own lives bc you believe WRONGLY that their entire life revolves around the ADC

The support is just like any other role, the difference is they give up some gold so that the other person in their lane gets more

brittle kayak
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(Or well it will once we get ivern)

blazing laurel
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i was giving generalized champion roles for each lane

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jungle has the most diversity

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agreed

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in that train of thought though, same could be said for support, they fill in whats missing and use their unique abilities and roam potential to help the lanes they can

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wether that means buffing, ccing, or dealing damage

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so I always crash out when adc’s are like “support is meant to help the adc”

like no its not, support is meant to support and provide things for the TEAM, or provide things for the CARRY, if you are not the carry, boohoo, if helping someone else is more beneficial, I will drop an adc in a second, if its between me 2/2/2 and my adc 1/4/2 dying, I will let you die

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my job is to help the team win, not babysit an adc

brittle kayak
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I will say though there are sometimes exceptions. Like if your adc is vayne or kaisa who is balanced around generally losing early to become an force of destiny later

blazing laurel
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yea those are hypercarries who need a bit more help

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but generally its not smart to play hypercarries in solo Q due to their high chance of being punished by more reliable champions

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especially when you see your support is hovering a senna, a bard, a pyke

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people will really last pick vayne into a team with no tanks when your support picked and hovered bard since the start of the game and then blame the support

brittle kayak
blazing laurel
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not really

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there is a difference in reliability

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a behind vayne, a behind kaisa are useless

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a behind jhin can provide value with his root, ult, and trapping objectives while still having decent 4th shot dmg

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varus is actually kinda a hypercarry with his rework, but his ult provides him enough utility to still be useful if behind

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hypercarries are generally terrible while behind and almost cant function without a enchanter

brittle kayak
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Kaisa pairs great with tanks

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Vayne is iffy

blazing laurel
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with an enchanter she gains like 60% more general power then with tanks

brittle kayak
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But she is still very functional with a tank

blazing laurel
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what I mean really is hypercarries cant function without a dedicated babysitter

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so its much more reliable in the long run to, in solo Q, play less “hypercarry” like champs

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for the same reason supports like playing carry supports

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you cant trust your adc to be good, and as an adc, you cant trust your support to be good (or pick enchanters)

brittle kayak
blazing laurel
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yea

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I mean every single adc is to some extent a “hypercarry”

brittle kayak
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Not a hypercarry

blazing laurel
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I just mean there is a difference between a nilah, and an ashe

brittle kayak
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Bur crit ashe just sucks overall

blazing laurel
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she is more of a utility adc then a hypercarry

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same with jhin, but he just does it with incredible damage

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traps, roots, long range ult, movespeed on crits

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jhin is just designed well

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but yea I just mean its safer in solo Q to play xayah then zeri, to play varus then kaisa, to play jhin then nilah

brittle kayak