rakan

[shrewd totem]

any advice on items / builds for him? I'm just confused on what items I should go for certain ADCs, against certain comps or scenarios? 💔

[trail prism]

Either ap or tank

[river wagon]

HELLO OBSESSED RAKAN MAIN HERE

Rakan is actually one of the most versatile supports there is, even as a tank you can go for many different items and they usually depend on enemy comp

Too many fast-moving champs? Zekes might help
Enemy full ad? Just build full armor — zekes, thornmail, randuins, etc
Enemy too much ap? Force of nature, kaenic rookern, amaranth’s twinguard
Main enemy carries are auto-attack based? Frozen heart/randuins
Enemy comp forces you to stay in the frontline for longer than usual? Twinguard

Yordle trap is usually a staple first item for tank rakan especially in soloq as it boosts his damage a bit with its armor/mr shred while keeping you decently tanky, pairs well with sudden impact

Your own team comp can also be taken into consideration, let’s say you have a samira adc and you want to provide her the easiest time possible to snowball, so you can take yordle trap for more burst + gold for her paired with zekes to clump people up easier with its slow radius + more movespeed for samira with your trail

But if tank isn’t your thing and you prefer to play like an assassin then you can build full ap with items like awakened soulstealer, malignance, infinity orb, crown, and even imperial mandate as a cheaper option

[soft wind]

I like enchanter rakkan but its probably not as good as ap or tank rakkan

[river wagon]

With this playstyle you forget about survivability and focus on bursting down enemies or enough for your teammates to finish off

[river wagon]

I think it’s viable depending on playstyle

Rakan has crazy ap ratios

But yeah full ap might still be more worth it since the ap boosts his healing and shielding anyway while he still deals damage

[soft wind]

But then you don't get the enchanter item bonuses

So its a trade off imo

[river wagon]

also can we stop saying rakkan he only has one K

[river wagon]

Fair again it depends on playstyle

Personally enchanter is fun but I find him too squishy to do what I like to do (hard engage into enemy groups)

[shrewd totem]

my duo mains samira and we usually engage heavy, i usually run heal to keep her alive so should I just swap to like ap to make it easier? sorry i honestly know nothing about builds + plays 😭

[river wagon]

That’s ok! Itemization is a learning process

[river wagon]

What do u like to do? Do u prefer to burst enemies asap or focus on keeping ur samira alive for example

Or focus on catching enemies for ur samira?

[shrewd totem]

I dash (W, I think..) and exhaust usually then she comes and kills them or for crowds its just dash + ult then chasing the stragglers kinda 😭 it works most of the time usually 💔

[river wagon]

So I’m guessing u want movespeed

[shrewd totem]

Yeah, I think, lowk no idea how it works 💔

[river wagon]

Like I mentioned yordle trap + zekes combo is great for catching and chasing with a samira

I can explain what the items do if u don’t know them yet

[shrewd totem]

YEAH!! that'll help, I just buy items after glancing at them for 2 seconds and usually that kinda throws so .. 🫠

[alpine wave]

Basically

[river wagon]

HAHA no worries but if u wanna climb u gotta start reading items

[alpine wave]

Ignore everyone here

Just go ap rakan

Go mid

[river wagon]

Dude

[alpine wave]

Burst down the midlaner

Ggs

[river wagon]

Anyway

[alpine wave]

Take electrocute

[river wagon]

Yordle trap basically cuts some of the target’s armor and magic resist (making them take more damage) when you apply a displacement CC — which rakan does since he knocks up and charms — and at the same time it gives movespeed and will grant some gold to u and other kill participants if the target is killed within a certain amount of time

Tldr — you W or ult someone, and you shred their armor/mr, gain movespeed and share gold with ur teammates if u get the kill soon enough

Might need to reread zekes but iirc — for zekes, using ult grants a circle around you that slows enemies in that radius a bit, and your movement leaves a trail on the ground that speeds up allies who walk on it

Both these items also have armor, health and cooldown reduction stats

But no magic resist

As u can imagine these are fun items to take when u have a samira

[shrewd totem]

ahh so those are good for like just shredding them easier? Also sorry one more question but like do you know what to or like how 2 roam with him? Usually i'm just glued to my adc 90% of the time but idk if I should be roaming more as him cause sometimes my adc just gets slammed sometimes and it causes us both to feed so 💔

[river wagon]

That’s ok! I love yapping about rakan so one sec

[shrewd totem]

i've played with yordle trap once with samira and the amount of times she abandoned me and lost out on gold made me sigh a lot

[river wagon]

LMAO u need to let her know then

[shrewd totem]

I try, she just pings enemy nissing at me and its like ? 🥲 One more question though before i gotta go but uh like what 2 do when my ADC like kinda slacks cause I rely on them the most, sometimes I switch to AP but then i'm really behind so it doesn't do too much 🫠

[toxic hearth]

Wtf in the chat gpt is this

[river wagon]

Excuse me?

I am a certified ai hater how fucking dare you

[toxic hearth]

Sorry, I hate ai also. lol looks like you typed out a whole list neatly like it’s AI 😭

Off topic but I just saw a YouTube short of chat gpt skit was funny asf lol

[river wagon]

1. I am a uni student. 2. I write. 3. I’m obsessed with rakan

[toxic hearth]

Uni student doesn’t equal typing like that thou lol.

[river wagon]

I’m used to being neat with notes whenever possible

Anyway

[soft wind]

90% of people that want play rakan don't want to play an assassin

[river wagon]

Basically yeah, and it gives u enough survivability to ensure that u stay alive long enough to catch stragglers and peel for her in case anyone tries to target her

For roaming it’s pretty tricky, even in masters/gm I’m still learning more things about it, I normally stick with my adc and roam only for rift herald/enchanted ensemble if it’s contestable

It’s best to not leave ur adc especially when enemy has an engage support like leona, nautilus, pyke etc. as it leaves ur adc vulnerable to tower dives and (as someone who plays adc secondary) unless they’re overextending it’s absolutely not their fault if they’re zoned out of xp and fall behind or even worse die to dives when in a 1v2

This isn’t really necessary in below masters as no one really expects supports to do this in lower elos but if ur full health/mana and ur adc is backing u don’t have to stay under tower or recall with them, u can get the chance to place wards in the enemy jg or look for a gank mid

But when ur adc gets back to lane try not to leave them for too long

[river wagon]

True most rakan mains I know live for the euphoria of watching their carries thrive thanks to their support

(Me included)

[soft wind]

Why else would you play support?

[river wagon]

Some mfs play support to carry idk

Or just get boosted

[shrewd totem]

Yeah, I usually try to stick with my adc but I have no idea what to do when they like die 😞 I just push the lane and then wander around aimlessly for like 30 seconds, also is it good or just a waste to try to steal the objectives? I've stolen a few cause it's pretty easy with rakan but i'm not 100% sure when it's worth to attempt to steal and if i fail if its good giving them a kill? a lot of times my teammates just try to fight then I try and help and we lose the fight & the objective so i never know what to do then 🫠

[soft wind]

Then play literally any outher role

[river wagon]

Thats what I’m saying

[river wagon]

I think ur optimism in trying to steal objectives is worth keeping

[soft wind]

If they die your should roam

[river wagon]

It’s good to limit test and see what’s possible

[soft wind]

Help out mid or something if you can

[river wagon]

Instead of playing too safe

If you’re behind it’s actually better to take risks since you don’t have much left to lose

[river wagon]

Eventually you’ll also learn that some fights aren’t worth taking

If some of ur teammates start araming for no reason you shouldn’t go and sacrifice yourself in that pointless fight for nothing

None of these are knowledge that you can just write down in one sitting tho

Since they’re all situational

[shrewd totem]

yeah I think if I change to AP rakan I gotta change my playstyle heavily cause 90% of the time I go in to heal and result in either us both living or just farming really badly which is horrible honestly 😭

my samira duo just rushes in there every 5 secodns and if I don't come you don't understand the ampunt of enemy missinf pings I get so its hard to be smart in that scenario lmao

[river wagon]

You do sound more like a supp player that prefers to enable more than solo carry

[river wagon]

How often do u communicate with this samira and are u two close

[shrewd totem]

it works if my team doesnt like go over there cause his dash + flash can be a good combo for stunning them then his ult can just auto kill it so usually it works.. usually

[river wagon]

Bc it sounds like ur samira is a bit toxic 😭

[shrewd totem]

we use the uhm chat and I beg her to use the pings but I think she's inable to ping 'help me' cause the amount of times she just feeds for 0 reason when i'm across the map is wild 💔

she gets too over her head and then goes 12-14 and foesnt ever try to play it reasonably

[river wagon]

bit egotistical too I guess

This is smth u need to talk about and probably voice comms is better if possible

[shrewd totem]

Ii don't do AP rakan that much cause I do pvp a lot, i'm trying to get into rank more cause i've pretty much mastered rakan's mechanics as much as one can but most of the time my adcs are like level 100's so i just become a leech onto them cause they can hard carry

[river wagon]

You need to spam retreat ping too

If you don’t think you can follow up

[shrewd totem]

yeah usually when we rush we get like targetted by the enemy jungler a lot and then ganked by like half the team so then we fall hard behind and kinda doomed so 🫠

she goes too deep into lane with no enemy sights and i gotta stay with her then we get 5v2'd really bad 💔

[river wagon]

sounds like ur adc has way more to learn than u do tbh

May I ask what rank u guys are btw

[soft wind]

Its seems your adc doesn't relize they need you to help them carry

[shrewd totem]

bronze and uhm iron cause she refuses rank, she has like over 100 matches on samira and then i uh have 500 on uhm rakan so uhm yeah

[river wagon]

I guess she only plays for fun then? I can see why they don’t really listen to advice if so

If u wanna rank u need a better duo lol

[shrewd totem]

yeahh i've been trying to get her into rank and shes very hesitant about it cause we're not that good against strong comps

[river wagon]

Eh don’t force her tbh u guys might just end up fighting

[shrewd totem]

yeah; she might try other champs but idk.. the 3 she likes are samira, ezreal & kai'sa i think and lowk only know about samira things so

[river wagon]

If u do poorly in ranked since she can’t seem to see from ur perspective

[shrewd totem]

shes heavily into league strats so she might learn a bit if i tell her to 💔

[river wagon]

You can always try yeah

I’d love to adc for u (I play xayah) and help u learn more rakan stuff but unfortunately ur NA and I’m asia

[shrewd totem]

she wants to be like healed 24/7 so its really hard to try and win cause heal rakan isnt that good with rank cause its essentially 4v5 cause my dmg is so trash 😭

[river wagon]

Wait a second I just realized ur pfp is from greeniris that’s cute

[shrewd totem]

n/a yea.. 😞 tough in na..

[river wagon]

I’m good friends with green

[shrewd totem]

yeah; their art is cute! i like seeing rakan art 🥲

[river wagon]

Heal rakan can still be tanky if u take redemption (I lowkey forgot to mention that item even tho I use it a lot)

Redemption heal scales with health

[shrewd totem]

i use harmonic echo, redemp and then usually just the slow thing and zekes and sometimes it works or sometimes she just gets stomped

[river wagon]

*bonus health

[river wagon]

Ah drop harmonic if ur not playing full enchanter

Just take redemption

[soft wind]

No need for harmonic. She might appreciate yordle net first for more money

[river wagon]

^^

[soft wind]

Might help her a little

[shrewd totem]

whats the difference with.. enchanter and stuff.. lmao i never actually look at stuff even though i should 😭

[river wagon]

Enchanter items give ap and heal/shield power

[soft wind]

Enchanters give buffs,heals, and sheilds,. While tanks are tanky

[river wagon]

Tank items give health and/or armor/mr

[soft wind]

Rakan is both so you can go either

[shrewd totem]

ive tried but somehow everytime I get trap she has this itch to run off and then at the end its only like 240 extra gold and a total waste cause she decides to 1v5 the entire team like okay

[river wagon]

Yeah

Rakan is more like a jack of all trades

[shrewd totem]

is that like the stuff in the uh support fraction of the shop?

is enchanter or like tank better for samira?

[river wagon]

Yeah

Samira fucking loves tanks

[soft wind]

Id say hes a little more specialized than bard who is the ultimate jack of all trades

[river wagon]

She wants meatshields that deal cc so she can be free to stack her passive and be the one dealing damage

[river wagon]

Fair

[soft wind]

Maybe go naut if your duo only does samira

[shrewd totem]

so is liks yordle trap good and is there like other any tank stuff i should carry, I know you said zeke's but like any others? 💔

[river wagon]

Naut is BORINGG but works

[soft wind]

Hes perfect pair with samira

[shrewd totem]

im the biggest rakan one trick of one tricks

500 matches on rakan and 14 on yone my 2nd main 😭

[soft wind]

Ah

[river wagon]

Protector’s vow has health and armor and can give ur adc a shield

[shrewd totem]

should i do uh trap zeke's and then that to help her survive and then like get good damage in?

[river wagon]

Depends, if enemy has mixed damage u can take twinguard for both armor and magic resist stats

[soft wind]

I could but still learning adc so probably not a great idea/am an emerald rank

[river wagon]

Your job isn’t to deal dmg it’s to stay alive and keep her alive basically

It’s late I have to go sry 😔

[shrewd totem]

so like a meatshield kinda for her or is that bad too cause if i die it's like dominos right? like to shield the damage basically just so we can both live

[river wagon]

I’m happy to talk next time!

[shrewd totem]

alrifht!! thank you though for the help, means a lot!! 🙏

[shrewd totem]

we could try yeah!! I need to get good at complementing other people's playstyles with rakan anyways so it would help$ 🙂

[soft wind]

Maybe. It would be interesting to play with a rakan

[river wagon]

One more thing- honestly straight up if ur phone is strong enough to to share screen while u play I’m down to just help out directly during ur games in vc if that’s something ur down for

[soft wind]

Ive only ever gotten paired with one like twice

[shrewd totem]

hes super fun like ack, i dunno why people don't play him more honestly 💔

[soft wind]

Hes is. But I mostly get mage supps so having an actual supp would be a nice change.

[shrewd totem]

ahh maybe!! i gotta test it cause i'm getting a new phone in like 3 days so it might be able to work with that 🙂

[soft wind]

I don't think you can do that on mobile

Sadly

[shrewd totem]

YEAH, I know a lot of people hate dmg (?) supports cause my duo has like a mental crisis over malphite supports and stuff like that cause she can't fully thrive in everything

[soft wind]

??? Malphite is a tank supp? But I can see it since he only ever goes in when he has ult

[soft wind]

And he can't heal

[soft wind]

Weird. Never had the option to do that

[shrewd totem]

sorry idk the differences between tank / dmg things yet but yeah she doesn't like supports that aren't anything but like healing or abilities to keep her alive 🥲

[soft wind]

So enchanters

Even though she plays samira

The adc that wants a tank the most

This puzzles me

[shrewd totem]

it confuses me a lot but idk maybe she just doesn't know how to word things 😭 she's a huge hater of swain, malphite and champions like those in bot with her

[soft wind]

Swain is fair and malphite is kinda boring to play with

[shrewd totem]

she doesn't like people getting her kills lol, i've finished off enemies on accident a few times and she like gets super mad so lol

[soft wind]

Im suprised she hasn't discovered the aids that is brand supp

[shrewd totem]

i don't think she has ever experienced that

the worst one was katarina support so lmao 😭

[soft wind]

Ive seen worse

[shrewd totem]

how worse...

[soft wind]

Ap mf supp

Or samira supp

The worst ive seen was fizz

Ive seen bad supps

And honestly I now get why every solo que adc players is miserable

Your support dictates lane and if they lose lane they will blame you

[shrewd totem]

i nees you to explain how theyre liek.. bad cause im really slow with this stuff honestly but eouldnt they win lane early cause easier damage? whenever i go against thise i always die easily and lost really bad so maybe its a skill issue probably is 😭

[shrewd totem]

I TRY my best to help usually I throw cause my duo got me super aggressive and I never know when to go slow so its really hard 💔

[soft wind]

They scale horribly and have no supportive capabilities

No cc or buffs

[soft wind]

It is

But honestly you should get your duo to go at your pace

[shrewd totem]

is it important to have cc? i got flammed because i had cc items once i forgot when but we lost pretty hard

[soft wind]

Maybe. Never went against them as rakan and I don't really have an issue unless my adc is super weak early

[soft wind]

Yes cc dictates fights and decides games. Cc is the entire reason why tanks are considered supps

[shrewd totem]

my duo plays super slow at the start and randomly gets aggressive so we got slammed constantly getting killed if they have 2 "adcs" kinda and then if we live we got sandwiched by their jungler so 😭

[shrewd totem]

so is it like really important to carry 4 rakan? also what items are like cc?

[soft wind]

Thats kinda how samira works

She is weak level one, strong level 2, and has a massive powerspike level 5

[shrewd totem]

yeah its just she never tells me anything so i always get my W first and then get slammed cause she goes in when its on cd 😞 i think its just poor communication mainly

[soft wind]

Then she kinda falls off compared to most outher adcs

[soft wind]

Cc is from your champ

Not items give cc

[shrewd totem]

ohh

so like his uh W and ult?

[soft wind]

Yep

[shrewd totem]

alright alright

[soft wind]

Think stuns,charms,roots, stuff like that

[shrewd totem]

is it better to cc then have samira just plow them kinda

[soft wind]

Yep

And samira can't do anything if I as support pick a champ with disengage

[shrewd totem]

cause I know she has to do soemthing special to get her ult and idk if that ruins it for her

[soft wind]

She has to get S style and her ult is a channel so if you stun her then shes basically dead

So Alistair and thresh can literally make her useless if they know what their doing

[shrewd totem]

yeah i know she loses her mind about getting stunned 24/7 so is it like always like kinda escort her to the enemy team stun them and have her do it all?

shes super kill hungry so its hard to actuallt have the game progress cause she walks across the entire map to baron to get a kill 💔

[soft wind]

Its you cc them and thanks to her passive she then dashes to them. Stacks up and then dashes past them to delete the backline

So you get her into position and she gets ready before zooming past you to ult the backline

As for her roaring follow her

Think of it like a child you have to escort everywhere since if you leave her alone then woops she gets jumped by the enemy mid laner and dies. But if you stay with her then said mid laner won't show or will be a free kill

You kinda just have to babysit the adc if they decide to roam

[shrewd totem]

ahh alright thanks!! usually she goes in first and i'm a little late so that's mainly the big mistake we've been doing :')

[shrewd totem]

i try my best but sometimes she just kinda becomes the most confident adc alive and starts solo roaming after i ping retreat then gets ambushed by bot lane & jungler and starts getting mad 😭

[soft wind]

Yeah you gotta be with her at all time

Thats just how it is

[shrewd totem]

alright!! thank you! ill lyk how well it works 🙂

[shrewd totem]

okay... one mroe question though like how do you go around with long range champs? i'm not sure if engaging is still a good strat for adcs like caitlyn or varus

[soft wind]

you literaly just play peel most of the time

but with varus its actualy a good idea to engage so that he hits more people with his ult

[shrewd totem]

whats the peel playstyle?

also is it better to like just play from far and engage then run back with rakan for long ranged or just like poke?

[soft wind]

You sit with them and when the enemy team tries to engage you stop it

[shrewd totem]

is that just like dashing to them then running back so they can't or like poking to kill them sorta deal?

[soft wind]

More like if you see an assassin about to go for the kill you dash to your adc and stop it

Its kinda boring but thats what you have to do if your the only frontline since rakan isn't as tanky as outher tanks

Since hes basically half enchanter and half tank

[shrewd totem]

so is it just poking the entire time kinda? i know rakan like yeah whenever i rush i get killed off super easily and that was the main bad thing for whenever i did healing rakan 🫠

[soft wind]

Yeah

But since your partnered with a samira your probably gonna never have to do that

[shrewd totem]

yeah!! i'm just mainly worried for playing with other adcs cause we aren't duo'd all the time and she never too many different champs so its hard to understand what to go with certain adcs :')

[soft wind]

Yeah each adc plays differently

Like even with similar marksmen like vayne and kiasa they both play very differently

[shrewd totem]

yeah thats what i think is most difficukt for me is like uh tryna go with my adcs playstyle cause i'd engage and they wouldn't and we'd get really behind in that way cause i die then they die type of thing

[soft wind]

Honestly coms might help you better

The rest is just solo que stuff that you can't really control

[shrewd totem]

like pinging or like vc type of deal? i've been tryna use the chat more often to ask but i don't think anyone actively looks in chat and its bugged quite a bit 🫠

[soft wind]

Pings and maybe vc with your duo

[shrewd totem]

yeah ill try!! i know i keep accidently throwing cause i like to bait with my W and then she takes it as a rush and we get stomped so ill try to get more clear on stuff like that 🙂‍↕️

[soft wind]

Yeah seems you both aren't on the same page

[shrewd totem]

yewh, we played a few games last night and whenever i go to rush shes like 50 yards behind me focusing another enemy

was this a bad play or like just matchup cuz sona & sion cc

i know i left her thats kinda my fault

[soft wind]

I mean you kinda jumped right into sion ult

You also should be playing in front of her

[shrewd totem]

i tried but then she got caught up with soemone behind us so ignore the flash i wasnt thinking shh..

[soft wind]

Yeah seems you both got impatient

You both should have waited for vi then engaged

[shrewd totem]

yeah we lack a lot in that style of being patient 🥲

is this a decent build for him with samira or should i change a few things around

idk what else to run with other adcs so i just run the same thing kinda

[soft wind]

Imo redemption over vow but yeah not bad for tank rakan

[shrewd totem]

should i just swap the positioning of them or like get rid of redemp?

aand for like other adcs do i just still focus on cc so is it a good build to run

i ran with a zeri & caitlyn yesterday and it worked well

[soft wind]

Swap

And yeah you wana engage into the enemy's for your adc most of the time

[soft wind]

Especially if ifs a battle marksmen

[rain laurel]

@river wagon what do you think about mixed ap/tank build? Am I losing too much of each potential?

[shrewd totem]

do i always do it even if theyre long ranged

i can't count the ampunt of times ive done it and they walk away from my shield and i get killed cause of it lol

[soft wind]

Not worth it

You kinda suck at both if you try that

[rain laurel]

Yeahh it felt lackluster

[soft wind]

Yeah imo rakkan is alot better with shorter range marksmen

[river wagon]

Pretty much yeah

There was a point where mixed was good but right now? You’re better off focusing on one type

[soft wind]

Actually while your here @river wagon what adcs pair best with rakan?

Im curious

[river wagon]

Xayah is obvious but I’m personally a fan of having samira and lucian too

I love adcs that can quickly follow up with good damage when I engage

Draven, nilah, kaisa, kalista

I don’t like adcs that take forever to scale like vayne and zeri

[soft wind]

So early game adcs basically?

[river wagon]

Sorta? Xayah kaisa and kalista scale well into late game

It’s just that rakan has great early game potential while being good late too

So it’s nicer to take advantage of it

[soft wind]

Wait why kaisa but not vayne? Both are weak early and take forever to scale.

[river wagon]

Idk I have better experiences with kaisas

I don’t really do maths tbh I play by feeling

[soft wind]

Ah

I see

[river wagon]

Kaisa has really good burst with her attack speed and Q with passive

[soft wind]

How about trist?

[river wagon]

Trist is alright ig

Not really happy with her jumps, sometimes I can’t predict when she’ll leap and I’d mistime my E

Same goes for ezreal

I misposition a lot with them

Lucian samira and nilah have dashes with a distance just right to me that engages are easy with them

Keep in mind these are all subjective and just based on my experiences

[soft wind]

So shes a wild card that your not used to playing with?

[river wagon]

I guess so

Who do u prefer to play with

[shrewd totem]

do i just not engage when they cant do the shield range

they like run back then run back again and then run back again like 5 times before they finally get into my range its the most saddest thing ever

[soft wind]

You have not played thresh

[shrewd totem]

i have no other support games but 1 seraphine one

it makes me so mad it ruins my entire rakan thing

[soft wind]

Watching people burn stuff to escape when your lantern is right there is sad

[shrewd totem]

thats why you gotta leave them ans have them learn the hard way

i played with this jhin like 3 days ago who would leave me to die to use his ult and miss every single bullet and it made me really sad

[soft wind]

Oof

Feels bad

[shrewd totem]

ifs torture to me

ikeep forgettinf rakan is the main engager so i wait for my adc to engage

i miss my W more times than i wanna admit and then we lose the lane cause of it

ithink this is the one only good clip i got last night

[soft wind]

Nice

[river wagon]

Rakan is actually better as secondary engage

He feels better to play when you already have a frontline in your team

Cuz then the focus won’t be entirely on you and you’re more free to dive the enemy backline and peel for your carries

[river wagon]

HOLY what a knockup

Great E W combo

[soft wind]

Rakan isn't as tanky as outher tanks so hes not super amazing frontline compared to outher tanks but his engage is really good

[shrewd totem]

whats like considered a frontline for an adc

whenevr i play rakan and lean back then they keep spam pinging engage then i never know what to do

[shrewd totem]

waht does that mean sorry the frontline and backline never makes sense to me

[river wagon]

Imagine a group formation, there will be people standing in the front and some in the back

It’s pretty much what it means, frontline is the ones at the front and backline is the ones at the back

Frontlines tend to be tanks bruisers melees and anyone who can soak up some damage for a prolonged amount of time

Backlines tend to be ranged squishies like adcs and healer supports that need to be protected by the frontline

[shrewd totem]

is that like during team fights or usually when the team is grouped up cause usually my adc walks in front of everyone then dies within a second

[river wagon]

It’s in general but it’s more clearly seen during a teamfight yeah

Samira should never be frontline at the start of a teamfight bc like you said she dies instantly

She’s not immortal

As a rakan you have to be more in the front but imo rakan is somewhere in the middle

[shrewd totem]

shes just very keen on getting kills its scary usually uhm by the time she can even ult she gets cc'd and then her ult gets cancelled

[river wagon]

He’s got higher health but he’s not tanky enough to stay frontline for as long as tanks and bruisers

[river wagon]

Yeah she needs to calm down

[shrewd totem]

does he just like w and then run back to engage a fight or just not

[river wagon]

Yes his playstyle is hit and run most of the time

You go W in and cc the enemy and immediately back away with E

[soft wind]

You wana look for an opening to engage and stand in the front but not directly in front. More like the upper half honestly imo

[river wagon]

Pretty much

Cover ur adc but you yourself aren’t actually tanky enough to soak up too much damage

[shrewd totem]

when is there like an opening to engage cause i mever know when to like i just do it when shes nearby

other adcs usually ping a lot and irs nice they tell me what to do its great

[soft wind]

When cooldowns are down on the enemy team and/or you have an advantage

[river wagon]

It depends on the situation but usually when you see the enemy carry standing too far away from their protectors

[shrewd totem]

would that be the adc or kust like snyone who carries specifically

[river wagon]

Adc usually

But it can always be the jg like a leesin or something

[soft wind]

Adc/enemy mid laner most of the time

Or any ranged top laner

[river wagon]

This’ll be easier in lower elos as people don’t yet understand how to peel and sometimes wander on their own

[shrewd totem]

oh so do i like specifially W to stun them

[river wagon]

You can W or ult whichever works

[soft wind]

I wouldn't go for lee since he can dash out of your engage and then your out of position

[shrewd totem]

yah imm trying to convince her to rank but ny luck with getting support only lacks uhm quite a bit

[river wagon]

True but if his dash is in cooldown he can be caught

[shrewd totem]

yeah we did one lasg might and he kept getting away so its hard to like do it

waht about his ruins cause like are these bad

[soft wind]

Imo courage over font but not bad imo

[shrewd totem]

oaky!! i swap to courage sometimes but it kinda depends on stuff i think

also how do you succeed early game with him cause does it just depend on the adc if you can W them and walk off or to just kill minuons till getting your E

sorrh for the questions i played with her last night and the amount of times we've gotten rolled cause we were too aggressive early on

oaky sorru its really hard to explain ill see if i can get any videos of it

[soft wind]

You wait till your adc wants to trade then you go in

They have to want to fight outherwise they might not follow up on your engage

[shrewd totem]

oh so we just likw poke kinda?

usually when we do that and we get kinda close to killing them we get ganked heavily so idk if thats just our play or just a good jungler

[soft wind]

You might be pushing up to far

If you almost kill them and force them to recall thats good

Especially if you can make the wave crash

But don't push them all the way to tower and stay there

[shrewd totem]

i usually back up when we get to their tower but my duo like goes into their tower to kill them both and then she dies and the lane makes 0 progress cause rakan's clearing is horrible

[soft wind]

Not your job to clear waves

Also rakan isn't exactly the best at tower dives

Also sounds like your duo would be better off playing Draven with that aggression

[shrewd totem]

do i just wait tikl she comes back or attack minions cuz i still dunno how like freezing waves work and stuff

she doesnt like draven i dont know why she only plays cait, ez, kai'sa and xayah sometimes.

its like witnessing a miracle when she decides to play xayah for me

[soft wind]

Ah so she likes poke adcs and kiasa for some reason

[shrewd totem]

yeah, she usually only plays samira though cause i main rakan

is rakan into ez a good combo though cause people always change into ez when im locked for rakan and idk if its a good matchup cause it seems kinda odd

[soft wind]

Imo its not bad but not rakans best lane partner

Also alot of people like to play ez

[shrewd totem]

i get them 24/7 and it makes me sigh cause they either run from my shield with their blink or just run into the enemies with it

its really depressing

[soft wind]

Sounds accurate

Since your na we could duo and I could give you a little break sometime

[shrewd totem]

whats your uh user and tag thingy

[soft wind]

Gimme sec

Il dm it to you

[shrewd totem]

alright 🙂

[soft wind]

Also im very curious how you'll play with an adc thats glued to your side

Since the ones you seem to play with like to wander

[shrewd totem]

i think itll be fun, better than chasing down my duo lol

[soft wind]

Yeah im not leaving your side

Cause if I do i know the enemy mid laner is gonna start hunting me

[shrewd totem]

does mid start hunting down alone adcs

i havent played adc in forever my ezreal was the worst thing alive

[soft wind]

Yes. Especially if its a brust mage/assassin

[shrewd totem]

ah so is that why people need the support by them 24/7

i saw a morde adc like a day ago

[soft wind]

Depends on the adc and not 24/7 just when they aren't in lane

[soft wind]

Dam

Average pvp picks

[shrewd totem]

is it usually okay to leave the adc to support like a mid champ getting 2v1'd

ITS THE WORST

[soft wind]

Again depends on adc and game state

[shrewd totem]

i barely play mid and went up against a lvl 371 vex as kassadin when i have like 6 games wirh him 😭

[shrewd totem]

ahh oaky!! 🙂

[soft wind]

Like ez and cait wouldn't mind much as long as you don't take forever but stuff like twich and kalista you can't most of the time

But twitch will probably roam with you so eh

[shrewd totem]

is samira okay with it... ive left my duo a few times and its like usually 50/50 depending on if she gets rolled or just gets a triple kill

[soft wind]

Entirely depends how fed she is

And enemy supp

[shrewd totem]

so usually just best sticking with her?

[soft wind]

Yeah

[shrewd totem]

oh oh have u seen rakan in urf yet

[soft wind]

But if you kill the enemy laner/force them to recall you can roam for free

[soft wind]

Yes

Its nasty

[shrewd totem]

should we recall or regroup when theyre estimated to come back or

[shrewd totem]

IT SSO FUN

[soft wind]

But in urf everyone besides twitch is broken

[soft wind]

Depends how hurt you and your adc are

[shrewd totem]

twitch always kinda.. odd

[shrewd totem]

ahh alright

[soft wind]

He is

But I like him all the same

(Not a twitch otp BTW just a casual enjoyer)

[shrewd totem]

hes .. okay i never see him enough to be interested

i see him in jgl more than adc

[soft wind]

Dam

[shrewd totem]

i gotta truly master rakan so i can go mid with him next

j think the worst thing is how long his cooldowns are

[soft wind]

Well twitch adc is basically jinx adc but instead or being ranged Darius hes more like more like a ranged mord

Just absurd amounts of dps if he stacks up

[soft wind]

Imo rakan mid is kinda mid but you can probably make it work

[shrewd totem]

ranged mord sounds like torture

[soft wind]

Him mid seems like something you need to coordinate with your teamates beforehand since he can't get out without a teamate

[shrewd totem]

ive tried it once and got rolled cause of pvp matchmaking but it isnt, horrible from what i know

just sucks how 1 ability is basically useless unless he has jgl help

[shrewd totem]

YEAH, he wouldnt work at all without a proper jungler or just be 10x harder

[soft wind]

Yeah it gets absurd late game but thats why his early game is arguably worse than vaynes

Epitamy of late game adc imo

Insane risk insane reward

[shrewd totem]

early game is just always difficult idk how people can dom early game without othet people messing up

[soft wind]

Lane bullys

And opponents getting overconfident

Like ive won lane as vayne with a yummi supp once

Was absolutely disgusting

[shrewd totem]

is that good or bad...

[soft wind]

Very bad for the enemies great for me

[shrewd totem]

lowk dont know anything about anyone that isnt surrounding xayah or rakan 😭

[shrewd totem]

ending their game early seems kinda nice

wait for the new meta, rakan baron 2025

[soft wind]

Like vayne is balanced around the fact that she is useless early game

So the fact I won early was absurd

And with yummi supp to

[shrewd totem]

how does that even happen though like if shes super bad earky game

[soft wind]

But sadly we lost that game cause yone is scary and yummi left me

[soft wind]

Luck and enemies getting overconfident

Also they forgot about condem and its stun

But yeah that game was stupid

[shrewd totem]

yone makes me depressed to an extent

[shrewd totem]

its so funtn when uhm they get overconfident and walk into a turret

[soft wind]

Either hes usless or stomping the game

[shrewd totem]

i run uh exhaust rakan so they lose like a good 75% of their health tryna get a quick kill

[soft wind]

Nice

[shrewd totem]

HE ULTS SO RANDOMLY like i cant ever see him and he just appears with an ult

[soft wind]

But yeah if we ever duo il be interested to see if we pair well

[soft wind]

Real. But I mean hes half assassin so it makes sense

[shrewd totem]

just lmk whenever youre free, i sent a request!!

totalbabe cause yknow rakan is a babe and yeah okay its understandable

its a good username i swear

[shrewd totem]

then they die from ulting into a turret

hes an interesting champ...

ill always be sad over my lvl 4 support lane display it wont get higher

[soft wind]

Not the worst ive seen (i play dbd so trust me if you think your username is bad you have no idea)

[soft wind]

Oof. Maybe you should try learning anouther supp. Like for fun or something.

[shrewd totem]

are they bad.. i know about dbd cause i play uhm idv like the mobile of dbd kinda and if theyre similiar to those users then 😭

[soft wind]

They are bad

[shrewd totem]

i waz gonna look i to pyke or thresh but rakan is just too fun to skip

[soft wind]

Ive seen some rakan players say they like galio

Maybe give him a shot

[shrewd totem]

is he a support

[soft wind]

But I will warn thresh is hard and pyke has some fundamental problems

[soft wind]

Can be

He can be a tank

Or a mage if you feel like it

[shrewd totem]

tanks are odd to me idk i dont play enough

i cant play any other roles but support maybe thags why i cant rank yet

[soft wind]

You play half a tank

[shrewd totem]

do they have engage like his..

sona full AP 2025 meta

[soft wind]

Well rakan has very unique engage so not really

Galio is kinda close but hes a warden so thats not his main job

[soft wind]

No lamo

[shrewd totem]

mmm yeah i can look into galio a bit

[soft wind]

Oh Alistair is close

[shrewd totem]

i have nightmares of touching rank and rakan getting banned cause them sensing im a one trick

[soft wind]

But you have to learn to buffer inputs

[shrewd totem]

that is 2 words i dont know

[soft wind]

Outher than that his engage is similar

[soft wind]

You have to press an ability mid dash

Outherwise you punt your target away

But if you do it you get a mini malphite ult

[shrewd totem]

oh so like timing correctly

[soft wind]

Not really timing more like hitting it quickly enough

[shrewd totem]

ahh

[soft wind]

Also Alistair works better with samira imo so your duo will be happy

[shrewd totem]

yeahh idk how well im at that 😭

TRUE

[soft wind]

You'll learn

[shrewd totem]

is there any supps good with ezreal i know shes veen wanting to play him more

[soft wind]

Lux isn't horrible but honestly i like pairing Morgana with him

Or karma if you feel like it

[shrewd totem]

is he good with stunners

[soft wind]

Kinda

Hes better with poke supps

[shrewd totem]

cause hes poke right

[soft wind]

Yep

[shrewd totem]

ezreal euhfhf 😞

shes considerinf draven..

[soft wind]

And even better her doesn't care as much about disengage since he basically has 2 flashes

[shrewd totem]

ive played with a draven once and he fot like 30 kills i think in just the bsst support ever

[soft wind]

Play pyke with Draven

But Draven is the epitamy of you hard win or lose horribly

[shrewd totem]

yeah ive noticed that but i seem usually use it to get to the fight sooner and it confuses me

[soft wind]

He needs to win early game outherwise you just lose

[shrewd totem]

is grabbing and just destroyng the meta

oh so like rush early game with him

[soft wind]

No

Its enchanter meta rn

[soft wind]

Yes

He needs a good early game

But if he gets one he can start 2 shotting brusers

Wich is absurd

[shrewd totem]

is pyke good early game too then or

[soft wind]

Yep

Same deal as Draven

He needs a good early game outherwise hes screwed

And both of them can generate some absurd amounts of money incredibly quickly

[shrewd totem]

early game not my uh proudest ever time period for plays

[soft wind]

Well don't worry about it you'll learn very quickly after playing an early game champ.

And also I like late game adcs so if you wana duo then its no biggie

[shrewd totem]

yeahh i gotta reallt tey for early game champs cause rakan cant really engage for me atleast early game without consuming a ton of damage

[shrewd totem]

ahh thats good!! 🎊

[soft wind]

Yeah but i can play sam if needed

My Draven is just kinda mid but he's also an option

[shrewd totem]

imm down for any i need practice with a lot of adcs

[soft wind]

Yeah most of the time il probably play vayne,kalista, and trist

Or twitch if I feel like it

But yeah if you wana play the lane slow and farm thats good

[shrewd totem]

yeah, i'm good for any style i gotta focus on other playstyles and not jusr rushing in 24/7 lol

[soft wind]

Yeah

[shrewd totem]

alright, just lmk when youre down for a game! i gotta practice with more pvp 🙏

[soft wind]

You go do that

[river wagon]

Courage instead of font, bone plating most of the time but second wind vs poke lanes, and i find perseverance more useful than overgrowth

I like running sudden impact instead of transcendence sometimes for a bit of damage too

Aftershock whenever I feel like enemy comp makes me likely to die quickly if I go in

[shrewd totem]

should I just run this cause I don't know what comp I'm up against usually

[soft wind]

Look at the enemy champs to tell that

Like if the enemy team has stuff like riven top,yi jg,syndra mid, its a high damage comp that you should probably have aftershock for

[shrewd totem]

ahh so i should probably rank a bit huh lol

i just know samira gets banned.. sometimes... and i dont trust her ezreal enough

[river wagon]

Oh right you’re not plat yet

Sure give it a shot

Bone plating is probably still better

[shrewd totem]

im trying to get to plat soon these bot matches make me feel crazy

ill try it and lyk how it goes though 🙂

[shrewd totem]

tried it and somehow won this game

ive always hated non supports characters in support cause their early game makes me sigh

imm trying to get more itno ranked but my duo kesps bringing up that id have to play other champs than rakan and rhats not fun 💔

[soft wind]

You would

That'd why I never otp

[shrewd totem]

hes just super fun i cant find that amount of fun with other champs for some reason

it gets me miserable

[soft wind]

Well hes very unique

There no outher champ like him

Even someone like thresh is more mindgame based and more of a traditional tank

Even though he is just as versatile as rakan

[shrewd totem]

rakan's movement is too silly its great

[soft wind]

Yeah

Hes very unique

Nobody quite like him

Only champ that has alot of movement like him is pyke and pyke is very different

[shrewd totem]

sucks 😞

him in urf with a xayah is genuinely the best things ever

infinite shield

[soft wind]

You have not seen the menace that is urf Annie and syndra

Or urf fizz

[shrewd totem]

urf fizz makes me become someone i dislike

ive never seen a super cracked syndra

i just think rakan is the most fun with a xayah

i finally got my new phone and now 3 games of wildrift doesnt bring it down from 100 to 45 🙏

[soft wind]

oof

reason why iphone sucks imo

[shrewd totem]

its kinda shitty honestly, so much issues with charger ports 😭

ive swapped phones like 4 times just because of the charger port messing up