#Need advice on how to choose the right adc

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quick mesa
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played with some high ranked players(im the adc) on 5man
and they were always talking about my picks, and i dont have much of an idea on what to pick, well i have an idea, but its not something solid that I instantly know. any tips?

onyx egret
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From what i see varus is the best rn

quick mesa
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yeah and it was my best game from them lol

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they peaked challenger

onyx egret
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But if you play good u can play ezrael,samira,varus,

quick mesa
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i feel bad not knowing shit what to pick

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i know that if its an engage supp

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i use someone that can all in better

onyx egret
viscid bane
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see what your support is, with enchanters you dont wanna pick something like miss fortune, jhin. And do not pick immobile adcs into assassin/hard engage com

quick mesa
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yeah we were a 5man

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they were always talking about my picks

onyx egret
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Bro team comp doesnt matter 95%of the time

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So chill

viscid bane
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it does

quick mesa
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it kinda does

onyx egret
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Not really

quick mesa
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in 5man surely

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in solo queue maybe not

viscid bane
onyx egret
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And a lot of pro players say ut

onyx egret
viscid bane
onyx egret
viscid bane
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dont spread misinformation

onyx egret
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And hes really good

quick mesa
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i see mind if i share some match results

viscid bane
quick mesa
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idk what you can extrapolate from it

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but if it helps

onyx egret
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U think i watch e sports?

onyx egret
viscid bane
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Team comp doesn't matter is the most delusional take

quick mesa
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i meant it for a 5man setting

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for this advice

viscid bane
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it matters in solo q too

quick mesa
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since i played in 5man with 2 challenger, 1 current and 1 peak

viscid bane
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if your team already has 4 ad champ and if you are picking zed mid you are inting

quick mesa
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true

onyx egret
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U dont knkw what i menat

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Meant*

quick mesa
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im more asking for some more deeper advice on like what do i pick into naut? or if they have a certain comp etc.

onyx egret
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By comp doesnt matter much

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Im too tired and sleepy to explain

viscid bane
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and dont play champs like twitch vayne kalista, they are extremely weak

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Xayah varus ezreal are good picks and can fit in most comps

quick mesa
viscid bane
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yes

quick mesa
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if engage, samira, mf

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xayah, ez?

viscid bane
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but jinx only works with lulu, dont pick with anything else

viscid bane
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ezreal works in any comp

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but try to avoid tanky teams

quick mesa
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if tanky i usually go for hp% chalps

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champs

viscid bane
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just go varus

quick mesa
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yeah

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thats what i planned too

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but in our games they all banned varus

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apart from onw

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so kaisa is the next hp% right?

jaunty anchor
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as an adc you wanna first pick so there's no pressure on your picks your team should adjust

opaque mantle
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Xayah and ezreal are zone/disengage, so they work with a disengager like janna

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With engage sup, you want samira kaisa tristana draven lucian

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And although sticking to a "theme" is very important, champion synergies is more important, especially their ult synergies

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So although mf is a poke/zone champ, she doesn't necessarily need a poke/zone comp, ideally you want someone on the team that can help you land your whole ult on multiple enemies

opaque mantle
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If you're going to pick first and you're not sure what your team or sup is picking, then the neutral champs are tristana varus jinx, they can all either poke, hard all in, or run back

opaque mantle
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As for the most import tip, play the champ you're most familiar with.. Knowing if you would win a fight at certain levels and hp thresholds in laning phase is the most important

quick mesa
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it sucks since everyone tries to get waves even the damn jungler joins in sometimes

opaque mantle
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So no matter how many times you die, you won't be "behind" since your farms are guaranteed

quick mesa
opaque mantle
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Can you be more specific?

opaque mantle
quick mesa
# opaque mantle ^

im not sure, ive been on a lose streak recently, i guess counterbuilding?

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and probably some macro advice

opaque mantle
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DM'ed

high geyser
# quick mesa played with some high ranked players(im the adc) on 5man and they were always ta...

what were the games, and what rank were them, imo picks really doesnt matter, any matchup should be fine, unless you play draven into cait (i hate it when i play draven and i have a 65%wr ish on draven). but its still very playable just annoying, so idk, i rarely thought about counters and picks. play what you know sounds better to me
theres really only few that i hate, draven into cait, eve into xinzhao, and gwen into yone, its terrible

quick mesa
echo apex
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just play varus only

still finch
quick mesa
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ive only really used her on low cc comps

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which in my games is very rare

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if it does happen usually ive already picked by then

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how do you play into heavy cc comps?

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i know that i have to wait for the skills to burn in a teamfight

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but honestly cant find an opening in a teamfight especially if theres no peel

still finch
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Samiras super op in wr n I say that as a samira one trick on PC chall rank 93 peak ssn9, no amount of cc counters samira but her biggest counter is Exhaust

quick mesa
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she is pretty strong here

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How do you handle enchanter duos??

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i usually ask for an engage support

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either they do have or dont know how to

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and go for an enchanter

still finch
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I have a disgustingly aggressive playstyle after lv 5, I will deadass 1v2 enemy bot lane even if my sup is roaming or in base just cause I don't like how they look at me and 90% of the time it's a double kill if I time all my abilities right

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With engages ur life becomes easier

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But even with enchanters if they have any form of cc it still kinda works

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Now if we're talking about enchanters like soraka yuumi and lulu, in that case u just play safe until enemy walks way too illegally or u just plain outplay

quick mesa
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how?? we're talking around 1-2 items right? even with engage enemy supps

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im so curious how u lane

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for me either i snowball hard or i go behind

still finch
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Lemme see if I can find any team fight clips so u get an idea

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The last clip I remember having was a 1v5 baron steal and penta

quick mesa
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yeah, correct me if im wrong what i usually do in teamfights is fish some autos and q's

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if i feel enough cc is spent

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i go all in especially if their low

still finch
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No need to fish for auto qs

quick mesa
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i think i know it

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but doesnt it start with w?

still finch
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Auto w e q auto ult

echo apex
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guys just play varus

quick mesa
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yeah

still finch
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Samira bullies varus

quick mesa
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how do you hit your w safely though?

still finch
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Wdym

quick mesa
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usually i use it as i dash in incase they focus me

still finch
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Oh hell no

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Don't waste it like that

quick mesa
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like in a teamfight you would usually be on backline at the start right?

still finch
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Unless it's in a big team fight n ur w first charge actually hits an enemy

quick mesa
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or you hit the w on frontline?

still finch
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2 get 2 charged

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Lemme find the clip rq after that I can show u some laning ones

quick mesa
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samira and kaisa ive been playing a lot, more kaisa lately

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i also play varus too just cause its strong

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but i find kaisa and samira more fun

still finch
quick mesa
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how'd your w trigger 2 combos?

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i know it hits twice

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did you sneak an auto? or e2?

still finch
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If u e after ur w them the second time w activates it counts as a letter

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Also when u use w the only abilities u can use are ur e and ultimate

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But if u e and q Instantly after w it activates even tho it's not supposed to

quick mesa
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let me test this

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so e2? right?

still finch
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There's only 1 e lol

quick mesa
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i mean double tapping e also does your q right?

still finch
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No

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Should I stream so u can watch me in practice tool

quick mesa
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let me test first

still finch
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Alr I'll stream anyways in case u wanna see after

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Vibe point 1

quick mesa
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ill join

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u mic?

quick mesa
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damn

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let me stream

still finch
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Where tf is the training tool

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Am I just blind

quick mesa
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single player

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first custom

quick mesa
still finch
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It's 2 diff combos

quick mesa
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thats the a q w e ult?

still finch
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One for in lane and 1 for fast combo

quick mesa
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the fastest one

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let me try it think i know that other combo i think

still finch
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Auto W EQ (second part of w) Auto

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The in lane is

quick mesa
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let first strike of w hit then dash before proccing the second hit of w

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i think?

still finch
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Dash and hit q before second part of w hits

quick mesa
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OHHH

still finch
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And if u get 1 charge u can flash use combo for instant ult

quick mesa
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gonna test it out

still finch
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The in lane combo is really op when 1v1s against other adcs or mages

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Like that's why I love playing against lux morganas when I play samira

quick mesa
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morg and morgana pretty doable

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if they waste their snares

still finch
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I auto eq in and instantly w in their face which blocks all their abilities

quick mesa
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or roots

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ooo

still finch
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Same thing with caitlyn q varus ult ashe ult

quick mesa
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it also blocks inside?

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didnt know that

still finch
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Yup

quick mesa
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i thought only outside

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thats neat

still finch
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Do u need a build for her

quick mesa
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i think my build is rush collector

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to bt?

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let me check

still finch
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Never go bt imo

quick mesa
still finch
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It's good if ur like new to the champ I guess

quick mesa
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how do you get your life steal tho?

still finch
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U dont need lifesteal

quick mesa
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bork?

still finch
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Ur a 1 tap machine

quick mesa
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how did you life steal in ur clip?

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or did you have the rune?

still finch
quick mesa
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the that gives hp after takedown

still finch
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No rune either

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No triumph doesn't work

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As well In wild rift

still finch
quick mesa
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whats your build?

echo apex
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divine sunderer is better no?

still finch
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Very situational for first item

quick mesa
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let me test

echo apex
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first strike on samira trust me bro

quick mesa
still finch
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For samira?

quick mesa
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yeah

still finch
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U can also go giantslayer if lots of tanks and qss/stasis depending on game

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Last item is situational

quick mesa
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ohh

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you rush collector or no?

still finch
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No

quick mesa
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woww

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why tho?

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wouldnt collector make you snowball more?

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easier?

echo apex
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collecter is scam item

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never build it on any champion on any situation on any thing

still finch
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Unlike piss elo games in like diamond/low masters there's not 50 kills in each team every game lmao usually in high elo when one falls behind they know how to play for farm and safe so it doesn't make sense to rush collector in that sense

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But collector is a must on samira no matter what

quick mesa
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why rageblade?

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for the speed?

still finch
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Wdym I dont go rage blade

quick mesa
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i meant ghostblade

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my bad

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yomouus

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idk the spelling

still finch
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Oh cause it's op

quick mesa
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for the pen and speed?

still finch
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Cause new sakira buffs gave it extra attention speed plus yoomus 25%ATK speed works rely well

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Wanna see my build before the buffs

quick mesa
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nahh, but this build you have rn

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ill test it out

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never thought to not rush collectors

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so this is big if it works

quick mesa
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you have to close right?

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since you use the dash to trigger second part of w to proc?

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so the fast combo is auto w eq w ult

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and the inlane is?

still finch
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Auto eq auto w a

still finch
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@quick mesa hmu if u ever wanna duo/trio I'll jng

opaque mantle
still finch
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Same as PC ur only supposed to be able to e but if u eq instantly it still procs the q

opaque mantle
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I just did it in practice tool.. My fingers are just extra slow i guess 🥲

quick mesa
opaque mantle
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Did you win lane tho

quick mesa
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yep

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i carried i would say maybe?

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i didnt feed

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if you're free i just wanna show some matches i had after your coaching

opaque mantle
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I have like 15 mins right now

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Start vc?

quick mesa
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sure sure

quick mesa
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oh

opaque mantle
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Lol

quick mesa
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where do we vc?

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dms?

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can you share screen there

opaque mantle
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Yea

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You can also in any vibe point

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Even if there are already people in there

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Just join and share screen

quick mesa
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they hear us no?

opaque mantle
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I can mute them for myself so i hear no one but you

opaque mantle
quick mesa
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oh okok

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im at 2